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September 22, 2025 128 mins

Recorded: September 22nd, 2025 | The Boys are back recapping a massive weekend of football. Michigan took down Nebraska in The Bussin’ Bowl, which meant Will Compton had to pay up on his bet and shave his head. On top of that, The Boys partnered with FanDuel to donate money to charities as part of a separate wager.

They also break down a wild weekend of college football — Miami taking down Florida, Oregon gearing up for a huge showdown with Penn State, Clemson dropping another tough loss and the question of what to do with Dabo, plus plenty of upsets and bounce-back wins.

Then it’s on to the NFL. Greg Olsen hops on the bus to talk about the Eagles’ comeback win over the Rams, why Carson Wentz could be in line to take over as QB1 in Minnesota, Taylor Lewan stirs the pot asking if Daniel Jones is actually the MVP of the NFL, and more!

Big hugs, tiny kisses.

 

0:00 Intro
2:39 Bussin Bowl Bet
17:03 Indiana v Illinois
18:29 Oklahoma v Auburn
21:01 Texas v Sam Houston
22:57 Arkansas v Memphis
25:09 Arizona State v Baylor 
26:14 Syracuse v Clemson
33:46 South Carolina v Missouri 
35:29 Texas Tech v Utah
37:54 Vanderbilt v Georgia State
38:51 Michigan Rest Of The Year
48:00 GREG OLSEN JOINS
48:42 Middle School Team Update
58:06 Eagles v Rams
1:06:12 Bucs v Jets
1:07:54 Greg Like's Will’s Bald Head
1:10:56 Browns v Packers
1:15:34 Bears v Cowboys
1:19:06 Chargers v Broncos
1:21:39 Vikings v Bengals 
1:23:56 Colts v Titans
1:25:12 Lions v Ravens Preview
1:28:01 Chiefs v Giants
1:32:34 #TierTalk
1:43:40 The State Of The Titans

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Go ahead afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, It is the weekend
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This is the weekend recap. This is you're seeing this
right now. We're going over college football, we're going over NFL,

(01:05):
and we'll also be doing Tier Talk hashtag Tier Talk
with questions, concerns, or just comments in general over the football.
We can that you'd like us to talk about Bustin Bill.
Happened Michigan won the game. We'll get into that game.
How we both feel about the game, because I'm sure
there's a lot of things in Nebraska side they'd be like,
we're really happy about this, and there's a lot of
things on Michigan side that you can be like, yeah,

(01:25):
we got to be better at X, Y and Z. However,
the game ended up Michigan twenty Nebraska. Oh sorry, Michigan
thirty Nebraska twenty seven. And the only question I have
for my co host is will who won the nineteen
ninety seven national Championship.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
The Michigan Wolverines.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
As you guys know, we decided to increase the stakes
with our friends over at FanDuel and we will be
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Speaker 1 (02:01):
That is correct, and since.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
The Wolverines rained victorious, we've decided to donate to Tennessee
Local Food and Goodwill Industries of Greater Detroit. Tennessee Local
Food is an organization that supports Tennessee's local food networks
through education, resources and connections. And Goodwill Industries of Greater
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for making this donation with us.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Ploy is yours buddy.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, look, I got a bald head. I got a
bald head. It's nice.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
I can feel the nice little breeze. All the hand
placement that goes around my head is an interesting feeling
because you feel the cooling sensation. But yeah, man, we
got beat, got beat thirty to twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Before we go into the game, what was a conversation
like with your family with your wife?

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Charle wanted me to back out. She's like, we got
family photos coming up in a couple weeks.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Did she know about the bet beforehand?

Speaker 2 (03:16):
She knew for through our content.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Oh you didn't say, you didn't say at the dinner
table and go hey, just so you know no, no, okay,
all right, no, and so, but she knew before the
game took place that you made this bet. Oh, this
bet was on the table.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yes, yes, yes, the night before when we were talking
about it. Yeah, she understood what was what was at stake.
And I'm like, sweetheart, don't even worry about it. I'm
not losing this hair. And yeah, after like yesterday, she
was like, you know, you can just back out. You
just don't have to do it. I'm like, Sweeter, I know,

(03:51):
but I made a bet. I got to keep that bet.
Got to keep that promise, got to keep that bet.
She's like, I feel like you're just you're only doing
it because of the shame you'd face. I'm like, Sweeter,
I made a bet. I lost the bet. I gotta
shave my head. It's coming off tomorrow. Yeah, it's coming
off tomorrow morning.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
It's a good lesson for you to teach your wife. Yeah,
and a great lesson that your kids will see. Yeah,
they might not recognize you, rue might cry, but she'll
know that her dad's a man of his word. Yeah,
and that's what's the most important.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
You keep your bets in this house.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
You keep your bets.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
You gotta pay your debts.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
No doubt the wife, she.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Might she might end up liking it. I feel like,
just do the ball.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Look, I've got a couple of minutes of extra stamming
up bruin, and I mean, I just feel like you
just get some little extra juice in the system.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
You've dropped like three percent body fat since you got
that haircut. You just look you look tighter, were put together.
Do you want to talk about the game, Yeah, we can
talk about the game. Also, shout out Sonny for these shoes.
Michigan gave me these dunks.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Just in general.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Even when I went into the locker room, you had
a hit a little like a backpack, one of those
little baggies. Well yeah, he's I don't even worre there's
not even a Michigan emblem in this bag because I
just wanted to give you something.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
He really is awesome. He always thinks to the boys,
we hold up that shirt that I wanted you to
it for the show. Fully understand why you don't wear this.
But right now there's a push.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
All to say, the only reason I don't want to
wear this is it's just this is the this two
classic I got, Yeah, I brought out I got your classic,
I got the change.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah you've changed. All you need is a cubic scronium
earring now and I think you'll be dialed one side only.
But this, so Sonny gave me this, and this is
Michigan's one and fifteenth win in program history. They put
these stickers on the helmets when you get a win,
big blog, big catch, touchdowns, those types of things. And
so there's a press for them to put the bust

(05:37):
and bull sticker on the helmets. And I hope they
go through that. That would be really cool because a big
conversation and this was that would be sick. Yeah, it'll
be sick. How do you make this this rivalry reel?
How do you make this trophy game real? And the
most simple answer is Nebraska wins this game. Obviously, I'm
torn because at some point in Nebraska does need to
win this game for it to be an actual trophy game.

(05:58):
But with all the stakes, how confident I was, so
my team, not confident. Will wasn't his team. It couldn't
be this time. But if they were to put the stickers,
put it on the helmet, It's like, okay, that makes
it feel a little more real because it's like, you know,
the helmet, the sticker, the bus, the whole thing that
fires me up quite a bit.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
And just think about it too, like growing up. Obviously
the buck Geyes have it with their stickers. Yeah, and
but just knowing that Michigan does these stickers on the helmet.
It's just cool that, like busting with the Boys is
on that Michigan helmet.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, that's awesome because it is. I mean, people love
to hate Michigan, but that helmet, the tradition that comes
to the helmet is just so awesome. Uh, the game
itself will I'll let you have the floor. It was Listen.
I like to think that we handle ourselves game day.
Yeah classy. Yeah, yeah, we were classy. Yeah, we understood

(06:48):
what was going on. Yeah, there was a level of respect.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Both wanted to win.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Both wanted to win. I think during the game there's
a couple of times I walked away I was like,
you guys got to do this, Like I'm also like
watching the game unfolding. You guys do x Y and Z.
I feel you got more success.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
I did that like a.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Third time, and like towards like the third quarter and
I could tell Will was not receptive, and then so
I turned to him and go, I'm sorry because at
they say, I'm like trying to I feel the game,
and I'm like, I know that, you know I have.
I have this really strong feeling that mission is going
to be able to pull it out and pull it through.
And I feel like, I don't know if you felt,
but like maybe it was you kind of felt it

(07:22):
getting away from you a little bit as the game
went on.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there was those moments, especially in the
second half. It's just like you can't get gashed to
a run like that. Yeah, like you got to get
the run fits right. Some of it's schematics, some of
it's you know, hey, just get it. You you have
a play to be made, Like, don't feel the moment
around you be the moment. And yeah, too many chunk plays,
too many big plays. I thought they came out, especially

(07:48):
in those first couple of series where you go for
it on fourth and two and don't get it. You
know your boy loves it, like I want the through
point point Notre Dame Mohouse stated a couple of years ago.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Right, which is exactly what you said to me on
the field.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Yeah, and then the second time around you miss a
field goal, and it's like, man, those are good opportunities
just to get on the board and get out front
because we're moving the ball well, getting you know, having
the sack on third down the first was it a
three not the first drive?

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah, backed up quite a bit. Well, yeah, I mean
it was.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
A good game, man. I hated that we were giving
up those explosive plays. I hated that we were giving
up those explosive plays. You know, there were times where
it's like Michigan was was out physical in us at
the line of scrimmage. I want to say we gave
up thirty four pressures on the day as an you know,
as an offensive line. Because you think about, you know,
we give up seven sacks, you give up thirty four pressures.
You look at the stats after the game, it's like

(08:40):
we're you know, Dylan still threw for three hundred plus yards.
It just didn't feel like it in the game as
you watching the game.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, because did you watch Pat thing on Sunday?

Speaker 2 (08:50):
I watched his I listened to the part where he
was just talking about Lincoln.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Same Okay, I was watched the Michigan Nebraska part and
that was his thing where like the stat line you watched,
Dylan and I threw out the game, like you through
how much because there was like.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and man, what else was there?
And just like you know, there was at times where
you felt like Michigan could have pulled away and Nebraska
took advantage of bad football being played, which is what
you want to see. It's like, uh, thirty to twenty seven.
You know, it didn't feel as close as it was.
But I loved how the boys they any chance that

(09:25):
they had to get back in the game, it was happening.
And then when you had the opportunity at the end
of the game, like we were still there, and then
you get him into we got you guys into what
like three third and long situations to where you guys
end up converting one more mugged up. We zone out
and it's an inside zone and they get us. You know,
they get a big first down, one's a screen and
Buddy is right there to make the play and blow
it up and he just doesn't make the play to

(09:46):
where it's like you get him on the field and
you might you know, again it would have been a
drive with like what no timeouts or something like that,
But again, you're still in the situation. You're still in
position to win the game. Uh love the fight. Listen,
it's gonna suck the say in this, Uh sit in
this for a bye week, but you gotta you gotta hope.
We just we rain hell on the Michigan State spartans.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Just keeping on the subject of Nebraska, Like there were
multiple times in that game that we all looked at ourselves,
Like I looked at the boys and I was like,
this is where Michigan starts to pull away. And I
think Nebraska teams of the past let that happen a
billion And as much as like you see kind of
the Husker fan base kind of going nuclear about this

(10:29):
is this is Nebraska. Is what we do, like respectfully
and like unbiasedly, Nebraska is a more talented football team
at this point.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
That's that is.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
That is just the reality, and it's not like meant
to be disrespectful. It is just what it is. We
won the trenches area. But like even through thirty four pressures,
seven seven sacks, at the end of the game, you're
doing an on side kick with an opportunity like it's
a three point game and Nebraska having the ability to
go down and do that. Riola, who's under pressure all

(11:00):
game long, doesn't have time to breathe or anything like that,
still completing seventy one percent of his passes. Massive, Like
the first drive, he's got three guys on him, forty
four is in protection, breaks off a little bit, no
one's got him anymore in protection. He has the wherewithal
to get out of that. Throw it to him and
get an explosive play down the field. Otherwise that drive
is dead. That's the first drive. You know, they throw

(11:20):
a pick, He throws a pick, comes out the.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Next tough pick and great. And you know that was
a great I want to say they were sitting in
cover two, but great play by the corner. Yeah, because
even when you watch that play from the side, it's like,
you know, he's kind of giving him a look like
he was may like he was gonna go in maybe
with with the with the one receiver, and he just
jumps on that out route. Tough pick, tough pick, and
then you get the QB draw where you know Bryce

(11:44):
hits his head on the goalpost.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
The next play, Yeah, and it's like as a Michigan fan,
I look at that and I'm like, okay, we you
see the talent on the field, but like if you're
gonna play Ohio State or Pence at these teams or Oregon,
these are these other teams that maybe are at the
same caliber level from a talent standpoint. And again, I'm
not trying to throw shade at Nebraska, it's just kind

(12:06):
of where we're at right now. It's like if you
don't call time out on fourth down and right before
the end of the half, and you're gonna take advantage
of like that, Nebraska played the ball great that hail Mary.
It was a very impressive play, but don't put yourself
in that position. If it's fourth and seventeen, don't do
a taunting because that's a three. And now that ended
up leading to three points. And there's also a lot

(12:27):
of things in the field you see, like the interception
like Hill number twenty, Like he keeps his footing, he
catches that ball clean, that's a six. Right, So there's
a lot of things you look at from a Michigan
standpoint and be like, hey, boys, this is where we
got to get better. But from like Nebraska environment rule
that the players. Like before the game, one kid like
walked by him and said, fuck you, what'd you say?

(12:49):
And he goes, you heard me? And here it was
a little boy. He's like, I don't know. He was
a little white kid. There's like four big offensive linement
around him, and I'm like all right, And one OFFENSI
alignment came and checked me, like you want to be
on our field goal team spring and you don't want it?
Like all of a sudden, you're ryin in Michigan. My buddy,
I went here, I went to this school. He goes, no, man,
you don't you want to be Like you could see
like the Braska was taking a personal fan bases are

(13:11):
coming at my head and it was awesome.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
It was.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
I walked by the student section without Will around like
a little small group of them see me. They start
booming the shit out of me, and then I got
the whole uh student section booing me loudly and then
goes in a chant that we want Will, we want Will,
and then Will ends up coming over agets in the
student section, like there's an energy in Nebrasket. And if
you're in Nebrasket, it's like, bro, you guys are there.

(13:35):
You guys are there and this is one loss, right,
Like Rayola stud like, you just got to figure out
a way to not average one point four yards per
carry on the ground, and you've got to protect your
offensive line. You can't take that much pressure not moving
the start moving the pocket, throwing, throwing picks and stuff
like that. The and on the Michigan side, for me,
it's like there's a lot of drop balls out there

(13:58):
that you've seen and you're like, man, if we had
this and that had been awesome, And then there's a
couple like a lot of grass, kind of a little dump,
he doesn't catch it, one in the back of the
end zone, hits him right in the hands, doesn't catch it,
and it's like, that's that. Those are the little things
we need for us personally to take that next step
to where we were a couple of years ago where
it's like, hey, this is a team that can't count
them out no matter what. So I thought it was

(14:19):
a great game. I thought it was great. I thought
the fan base was awesome. It just I'm happy to
be sitting on this side.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
We'll see you in the Big Ten Championship.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
I think your schedule get a little harder.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
We can play with anybody. Yeah, you just.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Gotta clean some things up. You gotta fix the line
of scrimmage, gotta have a heart. It's gonna be a
hard couple weeks for those boys, which is a good thing.
And then then yeah, you just gotta clean up some stuff.
And on the run defensive side, you gotta clean up
some stuff. But as far as effort goes, and again
it's like, you know, how did uh you talk about
Dylan's three hundred yards?

Speaker 2 (15:00):
How did they come up with three hundred yards? How
are we in the game.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
It's like, again the history of the Huskers, that's not
a close game.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
You end up not you know, you have like a.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
The three and out, but then oh buddy gets a
penalty and you go down and get three out of it.
Would have loved to have seemed seven if my man
didn't step out of the back of the end zone.
But this is look, losses teach you the best lessons.
I think this team will bounce back big time. And
you got you got Michigan State at home. You go
on the road at Maryland, which Maryland is spicy, it

(15:32):
just seems to Wisconsin. You go at Minnesota versus Northwestern
at home, have USC at home, go on the road
to u C.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
L A at Penn State, and then you have Iowa.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah. And if you're looking at this and you just
let's just talk Penn State up at Penn State, it's
gonna be very different clim So we'll just let's just
say loss ten and two.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, I mean everything, we everything onees in front.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Of your face right now.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
You want it.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
It's just getting it done, man, getting it done. Go ahead, sir.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
What a rematch in the Big Ten Championship count as
a bust and bowl game?

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Oh yeah, okay, yeah, I just if we played the
Big Ten Championship and Nebraska won that game, they would
get the trophy.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
If if there was one where we played in preseason,
we scrimmaged in the springtime.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
That's the bust.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
We just sit our guys, was like, let's go get
this one. You're out there, Johnson, You're out there. Get
at there, boys.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
The many the mini busting Trophy sits in Lincoln.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
This is me are killing the team. They had.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
They had a bust and bowl. The equipment teams played
each other the night before and Nebraska took that one.

Speaker 5 (16:45):
Hold won the real one too.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Uh, the the equipment guys too. I didn't I don't
know the score of that game, but it sounded like
it was a schlacking. Yeah, okay, all right, double digit
double digit, double digit two score ball game. Yeah, keeping
your power, Yeah, keep being the Big ten. Dude on
the locker room college fumble locker room. I sat there
and I was like, Brett Beilama, Illinois, they are going

(17:09):
to handle business. Indiana. I'm not so sold on them.
Indiana is putting themselves in that upper middle class version
of the Big Ten right now, possibly being able to
be a playoff team yet again. They beat these shit
at Illinois sixty three to ten, Indiana or yeah, no, Illinois,
I'm back. I'm back. Their quarterback five touchdowns, like, dude,

(17:31):
and now he's the heis Mendoze, He's now the Heisman favorite.
Like I got to put that game film on and
see what really happened, because I'm looking at that game
and it's like Illinois plus five and a half. I'm
thinking about Bretley bi Lama. What's always on my mind?
Brett bi Lama, Wiscon's In twenty twelve Bay Baked Championship
because Will is always bringing it up and I'm thinking,
this is this is gonna happen in Champagne into that program.

(17:55):
It was impressive, man, to see that. That was, I mean,
good for them. And uh, neither one of our teams
played them this year.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
I tried to tell I was saying too ay when
Nebraska went out to Indiana last year, Bloomington on a
sunny day, Bro, they could work you and that is
what they did.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, it was Uh, it was a deal.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
I think it's it's crazy too. He's the favorite. Mendoz
is the favorite now with the Heisman's nuts to me crazy.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
I mean, I haven't watched the Oklahoma Auburn game, but
it seems like they were given a couple may.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Substitution. I did not know.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
I have not actually seen one snap at all from
that game. I need to go back and watch.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
It, buddy.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Apparently you can't use this substitution to like, you know,
for deception, for like a trick play. And what they
essentially did is he's coming off the field, but a
receiver just sits down there at the bottom of the screen,
so they think he's off like it's a substitution, and
so nobody lines up on him and they just throw
it out there to him.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
They get a touchdown.

Speaker 6 (18:57):
It's like a nuts trick play, like field goal. Yeah,
he's just on the sideline and they just kind of throw.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
It and they counted it. It was good.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (19:06):
But like and then Hugh free Yeah, Hugh free Hugh
Freeze was going crazy.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
They were going ave ship, Bro.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
You can't do like in offensive and defensively, like you
can't manipulate the substitution rule for like a trick play.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah, yeah that hey get it. How you live? How
you live.

Speaker 7 (19:27):
I saw the question to John Materiers, like what's that.
What's the difference between you and Johnny Manziel.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, yeah, I got a church.

Speaker 5 (19:33):
I'm going to church tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Did you hear Johnny Manziel on Nightcap?

Speaker 7 (19:37):
I heard some clips but not about in response.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
But he had a very good response.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
I thought he had a great about how he like
he grew up going to church and he's like, you know,
I see what he's doing, and you know, good for him.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
It's like he's.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Playing really good ball. Oklahoma's got an awesome football team.
He's like, I think it like from his perspective, he's like,
you know, all these years later, like just getting to
still be in conversations about what I did on the Football.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Show, how much Johnny did in football.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, he's like, so that's cool, but a very humbling,
very good perspective time answer, and then giving John Matier
all the flowers.

Speaker 7 (20:11):
There are other good clips from that.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah, that's growth. That's growth.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
And it seems like Johnny's found himself a new a
new layer of depth. He's just he's really handling it well.
He's getting in the world that he knows balls. I'm
sure he sits with himself a lot now because we
had him on the bus and he sat there and
told us I have no regrets, And I remember sitting
there just thinking to myself, buddy, you've got to You've
got to because you you he fumbled a serious situation

(20:38):
that like you can never get back now. And for
him to sit there and have a growth and not
get triggered by John Matteer's comments like he's gonna be
all right, And that's awesome to see because you always want,
you know, you want to work out for everybody.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
You want to know what's gonna be fun. Is this
Red River rivalry coming?

Speaker 5 (20:53):
Up.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah, finding himself in like a villain situation out.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Who does Texas and Oklahoma have this week? Yeah? Can
you find that out?

Speaker 1 (21:06):
While he's finding that too?

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah, that was so dumb him standing over old buddy
in the end zone.

Speaker 6 (21:13):
It's just Sam Houston State like.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Listen powers back right exactly. You gotta you had to
in his money, He's like, I gotta get the week
to give me some power so I can go other
people's dreams, more powerful people. And it's like, I see it.
It's like I understand why he did it.

Speaker 7 (21:31):
He probably looks back and is like, damn that that's
not a good look.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
I think he addressed it in his press conference here
they asked him about and he's like, yeah, my mom,
give me an ear for about it. Already give me
here for He's like, that was probably a little overboard,
Like it was very uncharacteristic of what we believe our's
character is. And at the end of the day, it's like, yeah,
emotions take over. I'm sure, like if we're just in
his head for a little bit, how loud the noises.
Heisman front runner at the end of the season, has

(21:57):
a bad gave me as Ahio State doesn't show a
whole lot against Cupcakes. It's like he wants to get
something going, and it's very difficult to like not show
that fiery emotion when things are not going your way.
Texas place Florida and ou place Kent State. I mean,
it'd be a good test.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
For honestly, Florida animal.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
I mean, I mean, yeah, billion Nippers living on borrowed
time right now.

Speaker 7 (22:20):
They did Miami score late.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
They'll be to Yeah, Miami scored late. That was again
another one. It's like being uh when we were just
being at the Bust ball and then we didn't have
Wi Fi on the plane back. We weren't able just
to keep up with everything that was going on, which
that was kind of the hard part, which was the
tough part because you see, it's like when you see
Maryland blowout Wisconsin, you see missoo uh in South Carolina playing,
You're wanting to watch that game. All these games going

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on Auburn, Oklahoma, You're hearing about it, and you just
can't check the clips and the highlights of everything happening.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
That was hard. And then you were like Indiana's beating
these ship out.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Of wonder, how how is this going?

Speaker 7 (22:56):
Down, like the end of the Memphis Arkansas game was
apparent Memphis beating in Arkansas.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Crazy because we were it was the bust and Bowl
wall like that game was going on. While that game
was on, that.

Speaker 6 (23:05):
Game that was kind of did you guys watch any
of it? And were you able to watch it?

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Which game?

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yeah, Memphis Arkansas? You know, like exactly what we'll say
is like no Wi Fi in the plane. Then you
get home and it's like Sunday, it's like family until noon,
and then you got to watch NFL.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
And I'll tell you this too.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
I don't know how you felt, but I was exhausted
when I got home, emotionally, physically, spiritually, like exhausted.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
I couldn't wait to go to.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
I felt great. I was tired the next morning a
little bit, but like my knee was hurting a little bit.
I'm saying that fucking turf the whole time.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
We like, I'm sure all that pain would have been
gone if it was the Yeah, if I was in
the winning situation.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
But I was just exhausting.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
So I'm sitting there and like I remember sitting on
the plane like trying to contain my own excitement because
I could see you. I'm literally sitting across from you.
But at the same time, thing myself, God, we won
that game.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
I thought I was gonna get to kick my legs
up for the flight home. I'm trying to get comfy.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
He's like, Hey, I'm just gonna see it for a second.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
I'm gonna go back and then yeah, and then we
get a Cole Pump pay is You're right.

Speaker 6 (24:09):
Going back to the Memphis Arkansas game, there was a
offensive pass interference or a defensive pass interference that like
flip the game. Uh, but like the dB like he
didn't turn around or anything, but the wide receiver like
put his arms out and let like level the dB
and he caught the ball for a touchdown. But they
called DPI rather than OPI, and it was like, how

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is this even allowed? Like it the It was one
of the worst calls I've seen in a very long time.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Dud.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
DPI and OPR are such so weird because it's like
you teach the defender like you save yourself by turning
back to the football. Anytime your back is away like
towards the receiver and not the ball, like a lot
of times you're gonna get called and then a receiver.
It's like if if it's a shorter throw, you got
to come back into the guy to make it feel
like something. So yeah, that sucks. I want to see
that play for sure, because I mean I thought the

(24:58):
Razorbacks were gonna cond be something this year.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
Yeah, they looked good in both of their losses these
last two weeks. But I mean the offense looks good.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Offense looks good. What happened to Baylor just.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
That's what happened to Baylor.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
Asu and Baylor just cannot stop the run. We cannot
stop the run.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
And that running back I think he's like seven or
eight in the nation and rushing right now like four
hundred something yards like he's he's a stud, that brown kid.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
And we packed the box. It doesn't matter. Can't stop
the run. We can score points. Our quarterback is great,
and we fought to get back and tie the game
with like a minute left, and then as U just
handed the ball off, handed the ball off the game
winning field goals.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
It's all right.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
It stings, It stings, but it's also like, as a
I guess an ASU fan, I'm like, hey, good for
them getting back on track, because everyone as soon as
Mississi Mississippi State game happened, everyone's kind of like, all right,
we're done with ASU, just move on. Immediately more scared.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
As soon as I saw that game, I saw that
we were up next on their schedule, and I went
fuck because they're gonna come back with.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
They should have won that game too, Yeah, they should
have beat Mississippi State and they going fucking zero again. Yeah,
so I know we already broke that down. Uh GP,
I let you get your comments on Clemson Verus Syracuse.
Clemson lose loses thirty four to twenty one to Fran
Brown and the boys up in the Northeast.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Fran Brown I tried talking about earlier. Yeah, yeah, did.

Speaker 5 (26:26):
They got fined for injuries? For faking injuries?

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Syracuset?

Speaker 5 (26:30):
Yeah, twenty five thousand smart whatever.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
It was probably smart.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
Which was poor move by cad like because Syracuse wiped them.
In Caid's press conference after he like immediately brings up
the injuries and it's like, dude, you can't point the
finger if you lose by that much. It sucks because
normally this would be awesome, but we've lost every single
week Clemson has lost. So but what I will say, Dabo,
you see him like crying on the field and everything

(26:56):
I did.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
He did it a couple times. Any get emotional in
the Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
You saw that coming to this press conference earlier in
the week.

Speaker 5 (27:02):
But dude, I'm telling you, if Clemson fires him, which
I don't think they will because it's he has a
massive buyout, but if they fire him, it will send
them back thirty years with their program.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
You know how.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Similar comment to that was Dave.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Dave was on biing newon Kickoff saying the same thing, like,
you forget, dude, Like the standard for Clemson is very
high because of the success they've had in the last
ten years, but you forget where you're at before that,
no one talks about, no one cared about Clemson.

Speaker 5 (27:28):
Exactly brought and the roster is good. So he's truly
one coordinator higher away from like Clemson being good again.
But the fans are fed up and fed up.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
He doesn't help himself when he has those quotes of
like why is our standard? Why why don't you compare
our standard to people who don't win nothing. It's like, bro,
because you have a standard, exactly, you're you're in that category.
You're in the tier one category. You are a top dollar.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
He like, he's the only national championship coach that plays
a victim card. H It's like, dude, you one too, Yeah,
got two of them. You want to like, you should
be full ownership, full accountability. There will be a statue
what anybody says because you're so confident in everything you've done.
It doesn't seem confident in the things he's done. And
I'm like, bro, yeah, it's you're ruined in your your tenure.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
But it's just you. You see press conferences in the
way head coaches like handle those things, and on one
side of the coin, you have the victim or why
are we getting you know what about the standard of
the guy teams? There's so many teams out there who
hadn't won anything, YadA, YadA, YadA. And then you see
it's like a coach Ben Johnson for the Bears where
he's calling out his team. We're not practicing like a

(28:38):
championship football team right now. That's why you're seeing the
product that we have to where you're kind of pressing
the culture and the process and everything else, because that's
how that's how psychotic you should be about what your
standard is right, right, and he doesn't seem to do that.
I get the Hey, you want to fire me, I'll
go win somewhere else. Like if you feel the pressure,
you kind of address that when you're talking about, Hey,
you're losing. You don't want to go to You know,

(29:00):
why are you so hard on me when there's a
bunch of programs out of here who don't win a lot?
It's like, bro, because you are a winner.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yourself in the position to be judged.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
You don't hit the portal because to you, it's culture,
it's building. Now you have a you're loaded roster of
recruits that you have that are all juniors and seniors,
Like this is the veteran football team that you want
to sit here with with kid club nick at the helm, Like,
this is the roster.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
You got the roster and at the be end of
the year, everyone's just like this team, the national championship
caliber team. They're off it'sive line, their defense, they're gonna
be nasty. Like no one saw this coming.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
No one saw it coming, No dude, Yeah except for
me and Caid. I thought, I mean, I thought Cad
was going to play better in acc play, but now
I feel for him, like I hate Clemson, but I
also I don't like to see kids just get bashed
in the media. Yeah, and you can tell it's in
his head now and it's like, oh man, this is

(29:55):
you hate to see it get even worse for him
except for us, I hope he has one complete.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
You calling Clemson being bad this year. You to Clemson
is like Will to the Chiefs, like eventually you're.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
Going to be right one day, I'll be right.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah, and like to twenty five, you guys are both right, yeah,
both right.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
Though only other thing on the negativity stuff with like
Dabo how he's handled himself in the press conferences fans too,
Like I think it's just such a weak way out,
like when your team's doing bad to just start like
turning against everyone else. It's it's just it's like a
coward move. But it's and it's way harder to remain optimistic,
like trust the process. But that's what it takes to succeed.

(30:37):
And everybody hates the hard way.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah. So yeah, some of the things, some of the
things that Dabo is saying, I don't it's what I
envision Will talks about towards the end of Bo Polini
was bow handling it the same way as Dabo was
when it was like kind of coming to an end because.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
You not not in not in the victim way, but
in the like fuck you want to fire me? I'm
standing right here.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Yeah yeah, face yeah. Like with Bo, it.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Wasn't uh, it wasn't this. It's like, yeah, it's like
using this victim card Bo is almost like facing off
against everybody else for us to where you're ready, you
want to you want to get out there and put
a product for coach Bo. Bo just had like a
we're sitting he get it to where it felt like
you're sitting across the table from whether it's the fan base,
national media, But it wasn't like why is our standard

(31:27):
this and that?

Speaker 2 (31:28):
You know what I mean? Close to the y s.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
There were no tears there, there's no crying bo Pline,
there were no tears. He's taking his hat off. He's
got photos out there where it seems like he's swinging
a hat trying to hit a referee. The crazy Youngstown mafia,
the crazy part about Bo Poline. He's firing just looking

(31:50):
back retroactively, is the record never lost or like he
never went. That's what people That's what people are saying.
If you get into this world, the firing Dabbo, you're
gonna to set a program back because it's like you
look back on it, we lost games we should not
have lost. And then when we were on the big stage,
the big thing Championship that I recall a lot is
like you, we would get blown out to where it

(32:12):
felt embarrassing. So that's what the fans, that's what ultimately
pushed him out. And then you see what happened after
that because you had a really good head coach who
understood culture, who understood all these things. That's kind of
the that's what you'd be doing if you're Clemson, the
firing Dabbo, Like, yes, they are off to a terrible start.
We're starting his career there, but you look at what

(32:32):
he's done and it's like, bro, it's the grass ain't
always greener.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Imagine where and.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
I do believe Rule is the guy. Like I think
Nebraska's on a fast track to becoming a prominent program again,
but imagine where Nebraska would be a Bojas state.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah, yeah, you didn't have to go through those other
two probably, Yeah, we have a dynasty.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
He would be the chiefs of college football.

Speaker 5 (32:59):
That's what I mean. It's like for certain programs and
certain coaches, like for Dabo, it's like the famous quote
of you can't think in days, you have to think
in decades. Yeah, it's like, are you gonna let this
one bad season? It's like Florida State last year they
wanted Mike Norvel gone. Now this year, Florida State is
one of the better teams, and it's like one.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Of the better teams, and the team you're a higher
two away from the whole thing turn around. As long
as you got the talent on the roster, you feel
good about the talent.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
And it's like the noise to Dabo is like, yeah,
it could just truly be noise, Like the fans could
be mad, and if he just handles it differently, it
could go away quickly, even if they don't want a
game the rest of the year. It's like, yeah, we
fucked up, but like, hey, let me just show you
this resume real quick. Culture culture, Culture is gonna figure
this out. The next year goes the same way, then
you got to get him out of there. But yeah,

(33:46):
it's tough.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Man, what's going on? In South Carolina, a.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
Whole lot of bad tackling. Oh we had I think
a forty grade of forty five on our tackling. Wen
we didn't get to watch the game. The first text
I see on the lane was my mom saying, horrible game.
Nothing to be positive about that before I even saw
the score. And my mom is the opposite of me
when we watch a game like we could be winning
twenty one zero and have a bad place should be.

(34:13):
Why do they do that? I'm like, Mom, you just
gotta you gotta relax. But it's the tackling, dude, the
tackling and the penalties. I think we had eighteen penalties
and still only lost by whatever it was, nine points.
So it's frustrating because it's like, can you just clean
up half of it and then you can find some wins.

(34:33):
Receivers are starting to show some promise to younger guys,
but it's the it's all the little crap of it.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
And you you we watched the game.

Speaker 5 (34:41):
Yeah, just like the not the full entire thing, but
like the moment.

Speaker 8 (34:46):
How was that?

Speaker 1 (34:46):
If it's a line in those recaps you saw.

Speaker 5 (34:49):
Yeah, that's I guess I forgot to mention we had
negative like twenty rushing yards. Yeah, yeah, negative twenty rushing yards,
eighteen penalties, all these things lost by and we were
winning going into the fourth quarter, which is just in
my head, I'm like, Okay, we're that close, Like if
you fix one of these things, we're winning these games

(35:10):
right right. And so it's tough though, Like but it's
the same thing. You gotta you gotta trust the culture,
Like you can't just lose your head and you just
got trust Beamer. Has the locker room still fired up? Yeah,
you make October magic. Everybody forgets about September.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
We sat on the locker room with Josh Pate and
we were talking about the Utah Texas Tech game and
Josh was like, wouldn't it be awesome if one of
these teams blow out the other so it gives like
the Big twelve more of a hey, this is our team. Possibly. Well,
what happened this week? Texas Tech won thirty four to
ten versus Utah and they did it in what three

(35:48):
quarters with their backup quarterback backup quarterback? And so do
we believe in Texas Tech?

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Now? Is a question?

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Is Texas Tech a contender? Are they the obvious big
twelve team. Are they anything in the playoffs? You're a
big twelve guy. Should's why I'm kind of looking at you.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
The thing that I will say about Texas SEC that
they have that they have never really had before is
a defensive line. And Texas heck has always been able
to put up points. Their wide receivers are scary, their
backup quarterbacks putting up numbies like offense looks are great.
But their defense looks really strong. And a lot of

(36:25):
people were talking about that Utah quarterback going into the game.
They had that guy in a blender the entire game.
I can't remember his name to save my life. The
Dan Pierre, Yeah, was playing super solid going into that game,
and then he just looked lost against him.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
I mean he is their best player game in passing
and rushing for them. Oh yeah, very salty player and
and texts.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
Defensive front is just strong this year. Their linebackers are swarming.
Utah could not do anything offensively, and so that's what
scares me about Tech because you, let's say a team
like Iowa State, a team like Baylor that can put
up points, but do they have that defense? And I
don't think they do. And I think you need that

(37:12):
going into the playoffs and playing some of these SEC
teams that, like we saw with Auburn versus Baylor, they
threw the ball nine times.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
You're gonna need it against any of these teams that
come out of the Power for Conferences. It's like acc
they're they're top guys with Miami and Florida State, Georgia Tech.
I know is in the conversation being up there like
you're going to need a like as much of a
complete team as possible because it's not going to just
be shootouts all the time. Yeah, you had big ten

(37:41):
with like Oregon, Ohio State, Michigan, and Nebraska. Then in
the SEC you got what you got Georgia, you got
Tennessee potentially Bama. Who else in the SEC? Van put
up seventy Missouri.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Yeah, yeah, it takes my it. They look really good
and you can't go on state to that conversation have
Akade where he's like, if we win the national championship,
you to take the offensive line and diego to Vegas.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
You said, yes, yes, yes, their LSU game will be mad.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
I looked at him in the eyes, I said, Buddy,
and I have a lot of respect for you, and
I've been where you're at of like seeing your team
and believe I was like, I'm telling you from the
outside perspective, you don't have the team to win a
national championship.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
He told everyone that right after too.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
I'm sure, buddy, you guys just I love you. Yeah,
it is my my photos in the locker room.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
It's like, and I think I'll see your games this week.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Though they got to win that that Michigan bet because
I'm gonna have to pay. That's a lot of money
to pay for those boys to go to Vegas.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
Their schedule is nuts. Their schedule is hard.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
How are you feeling about, uh, Michigan for the rest
of the year.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
I went back and looked at their their schedule. I
feel very strong about a ten win season. I think
like Maryland's on the schedule that looks pretty spicy. I
think we're gonna learn a lot about them in a
few weeks when they go to USC because they have
to go on the road again. Oh UFC seems like
they have have a lot of potential in there. But
for me, it's like I love to see the passing

(39:18):
game and I feel like we're still Piquel had had
a great take on this. I think we're still seeing
like sixty to seventy five percent of what Michigan could be,
what it really is. They're still like figuring out who
they are. Obviously, they're a very run dominant team. They're
good at running the ball. They do a great job
of like basically holding the control of the game on
the defensive side of the ball and the O offos

(39:39):
side of the ball. But I personally, I would love
like seeing Bryce in the flashes, Like I don't think
I've ever been so excited to watch a college football player,
And I'm just waiting for that game where it's like
he's just dicing them up from a like from a
throwing standpoint. That's what gets me excited. So the results
of this year, I could definitely see eleven and one,

(40:01):
ten and two. A lot of things, like we have
to our gameplay has to get better. But like just
taking this game like on the road, like you leave
a lot of points on the board, You give up
a lot of points to just bad football and bad
game management and certain situations that you can all be corrected.
You don't have your head coach, So there's a lot
of things you look at and be like, Okay, no,
this is not being rude. They're not trying to be

(40:22):
like that game's a lot closer than it should have been.
And if we clean up these things, it's how and
how the score should have been, you know what I'm saying.
So we got to buy a week. Great, you got
Wisconsin at home, which is awesome, but then you go
on the road to USC. I'm hoping when you're in
almost the middle of Spootober, you're sitting there and you
watch it then play against us seem like that's the
team because you see against Central Michigan you did a

(40:45):
team that's on the rise, Nebraska like you go and
handle the game, You win the game, but you dominate
in a fashion that's like, Okay, if you take that away,
what do we have? So if I could see a
more well rounded offense, that's what all might be like, Hey,
maybe this year is the year because I think the
difference between you could speak for yourself, but just put
the game of the Michigan and Breskola. Everyone in the

(41:05):
Brass is like year three rule, this is the year.
This is where we completely turn around and go like
to me, It's like I love the foundation that Michigan's
at right now, and I love where they could be,
you know, in the very near future. Like I think
this Portal year is going to be so important about
like know what your know what your issues are, and
just attack it like you have the fund, you have

(41:27):
the money. You're getting fifty thousand dollars from busting Like
that's that's a kicker. Get your kicker, right hey, babe,
that's for you boys right there. Yeah. I saw him
too before the game. I go, best player on the
team is like style by bro, I'm serious, Like you
are elite. It's unbelievable. But he'll be in the NFL

(41:47):
next year. So I just look at him, like, Bro,
you could go and throw some crazy money around and
get some elite wide receivers that might not be used
the correct way. Right now, there's one intact.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
Charge it to the game.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Charge it to the game year.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Is it Haynes or Justice justin?

Speaker 1 (42:05):
He is a junior. He is a he is a Yeah,
because I saw the Big Ten. He's leading the Big
ten by over one hundred yards in rushing, and I
was like, I wonder what it is nationally. He's four
nationally he is tied for fourth, and then there's like
two smaller schools. One kids get like seven hundred yards
or something like that. But that kid is he's incredible.

Speaker 5 (42:22):
He's gone for every gamey touchdown, yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
One hundred h he's a junior, and I love that.
All the reports about this kid is like he's intentional
about what he eats. He's intentional, but he's like a
no nonsense guy. Even in the locker room after the game, like, bro,
you balld, he is appreciate you, like he's he's already
thinking about recovery the next thing. Like that kid is
a true pro. And then it's but it's like then

(42:45):
you got Marshall who's a five star who broke like
a seventy yarder in that game, Like he is a sophomore.
I believe he's a saw. Like so it makes you
feel good. And then we just got the number one
running back in this class coming in something Hitter I
forget his first name. Yeah, but like he's like he's
another kid you look at and me in high school.

(43:06):
You're like, fuck, we're doing it again. Like like good
running backs, and like this offensive line too, like Evan
linked the left tackle. He wasn't supposed to be the
left tackle starter. It was Babbelow who was going to be.
He hurt his knee. They were really high on him,
and he's done an amazing job. Like Crippen the center,
Like after the game the locker room and they go
the best game you've ever played, Like you see that

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they're gaining confidence. It's so similar to last year, like
a lot of question marks on the offensive line. They
drop one early like they did against Texas last year.
They did the same thing against Oklahoma and you're like, oh,
what is the offense line? Well, they're just getting better
and better and arguably our best offense. The linem's been
hurt for the last couple of games. So I've I'm
to answer your question as long winded as I always am.

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I feel very strong about the season.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Yeah, I think you like if I was, if I
was like observing and judging Michigan. You guys just need
more consistency in your drives.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
It's like you guys pop big ones right, Like I
could see like if I'm on Nebraska's defense, like when
I was with Tennessee and Dan P's he'd always come
in and put together the explosive plays back. These five
runs right here came up with two hundred yards, and
they talk in a way of like, you get this
off the board. You play consistently in the run game
like we have. We're in a much better position as

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a defense, but we can't give up the explosives. It's
if you guys can put drives together and then get
you know, three or seven out of these drives.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
And then you're you're.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
You have that with popping the big ones, because I
feel like it's like the offense felt like it gets
stagged at times and a lot of twos just dropping
the ball. Like you guys are you guys are good.
You guys are solid along the line of scrimmage. You
got a hell of a running back. You got a
future superstar of a quarterback, as long as he just
continues to plays, as long as he continues to play
his game, doesn't try to force the issue. If he

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feels like he's in a in a moment where he's
got to make a play and I'll kind of throw
it up to the defense. He's really good.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
But again, you're you're It's like the talent on the outside,
just catch the ball. I know.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Well, I mean, yeah, you go back to the game, it's.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Like number defens's just discipline.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Yeah. Well, there was a lot of broken plays because
of how much pressure was taking place. Like when we
when we were getting to Rayola, he gets out and
at that point, like the perfect one is the first
drive like forty four, like leaks out to the side.
There's no one there because everyone's so far downfield at
this point, so he's been in protection and it's just like, yeah,
you've got to do a couple of things. But I

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was very I loved the defense. I thought the defense
played incredible. I thought they did a lot of like
watching Emma Johnson in the three Weeks with you Cincinnati game,
you pop on to Akron or you know, Houston Christian
you pup up in those games. Like you watch Emma Johnson,
not one guy is making the tackle on him. It's
a it's he gets tripped up. Then a guy comes
in and saves the day. And I thought Missigan did
a great job in space getting the guy to the ground.

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Whether it's five yeards, six or seven yards, he's getting
the guy of the ground, which I was really proud of.
And then on the drop standpoint, you're right, like somage,
I loved them, and I love his attitude before the game.
I love him as a person. He just had two
drops in this game, at least two drops. Goodwin the
number nine in the back of the end zone early
in the game, Like, that's a well placed ball by Bryce.

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That's that should have been a touchdown right there. Donovan
McCully number one, he has that deep pass where they
ended up calling incomplete. They watch the replay and everyone's
on the sideline goal and if he's wearing white cleat,
that's that's that's a catch, And if it's called the catch,
it's probably a catch. That's how close it was. So
you see it as a Michigan fan being like, bro,
we're right there, because you're right. There's a couple three

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and ounce, then there's an explosive play. But then the
fourth quarter we go down, take nine minutes off the clock,
twelve plays and have a couple of good throws in there,
sustain good drive, just running the ball consistently. It's like
that's where we need to be, Like go back to
being the boat constrictor where you just like unfortunate you
just forced teams to quit because they can't get the ball.
When they do, there's that defense on the other side

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that just goes nuts because that's the game's unfolding. You
look at the time of possession, like Nebraska was like
that twenty five minutes to like fifteen at one point,
like it was.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Yeah, Nebraska dominating in the time possession because you guys
have popped those fucking explosives.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Right like they went down and got three or a
touchdown or Nebraska did, and you go to take a piss.
You come back the Braska at the ball again and
then we scored seven.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Yeah, I did. Somebody wanted me to visit somebody on
the fence, buddy.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
I go and visit somebody on the fence and they
do the picture thing and then I'll come back out.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
They're like, hey, you don't want to see what just happened,
And I'm like, what the fuck I know?

Speaker 1 (47:31):
And it's like, you look at I might be a
little pink. Will might be a little pink. It's like
we saut in the Michigan sideline because it was way
less people. Yeah, and the other side shaded and we're
literally just not going over there because I don't believe
besides the two teams, there was anybody in that stadium
that cared more about that game than you and I
I truly, and maybe even more than some of the players.

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You know, some of those guys were dressed, but they
knew they weren't playing. Will and I were sitting there
every single play going in. We got Greg Olsen, let's
fucking go.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
How we doing that in the car?

Speaker 8 (48:07):
Sorry, I had to meet this Monday thing.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Man.

Speaker 9 (48:10):
I'm committed, trust me, I'm committed to this segment. I
look forward to it. My Mondays have been totally crazy.
I had to fly to New York for a meeting.
But I'm not missing this with the boys. So we're
gonna have to do it from the car today. Hopefully
you can hear me. Good and let's rip.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
I love it, Greg, well, listen, let's we can. We're
gonna move past the fact that your flight didn't work
out last week. He left the boys. It's all good
because we're all about adversity around here. Do we we
handle it with take on the chin and we can
handle forward. We keep moving forward. Talk to me about
Eagles and Rams.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
We got a time out time I I can I
just open up my first question. I want to know
how his team did when they came back from their little,
their little break.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
This is the first game back they had the bi
week last week, I know, but I want to know how, How,
How is tempo?

Speaker 2 (48:54):
How was practiced? Did they hit the feel like he
wanted to see him? That was it?

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Was it a down week? Did you have to correct
them after the practice? Like way, we ain't coming out
here just to fiddle our thumbs. We need a sense
of urgency.

Speaker 9 (49:07):
Yeah, I think, I think, I think you're spot on.
I think maybe the first practice returning last Monday, maybe
a little we had to get on them a little bit,
just to get the blood flown a little bit, get
the juices going, get back into groove. I thought Tuesday
we had a really good day. Wednesday, review day before
the game, we had a really good day on Wednesday night,
did a nice video we do it via zoom, did

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a nice late night team video.

Speaker 8 (49:32):
Session corrections from the week in practice.

Speaker 9 (49:35):
We record all of our practices, so we did a
little did a little team correction, did some game review
stuff from former weeks to just clean clean everything up.

Speaker 8 (49:44):
And then I wouldn't say we played great.

Speaker 9 (49:47):
We played well. We won twenty to nothing. Defense played
really well. Team we played had some good player U
I would say we played I would say we played well.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Okay, good not great is what you'll put on. You'll
put on.

Speaker 9 (50:06):
I want us to be more dominant, like I want
us to be more assertive. It took us it was
only six to nothing at half a couple turnovers. That's
been a problem for us this year. We got to
get cleaned up. But defensively we played really well, which
was exciting.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
I love that.

Speaker 6 (50:23):
Say that again, Mitch, Greg you played uh my buddy
from college. You played his team this past week.

Speaker 8 (50:31):
Oh, really nice, Mitch.

Speaker 6 (50:33):
I don't know what what high school or middle school
he works out.

Speaker 9 (50:38):
So the program that we played their high school team.
So it's called Providence Day School. They're right up the
road from us. To their credit, like I give credit
where credits due, they've got a really good football program,
like they're They're high school is loaded. They produce a
lot of really good college kids. They're if they're not
the best team in the whole state, they're one of

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the top and full they do a good job. So
I you know, give credit where credits due, So it
was a good win for us. They're a good football school.
They take football serious as do we, and uh, it
was it was a game that we wanted to win.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Is it too early in the process looking at these
middical kids, because like you know, Tostostreos now finally get
into the body. You're seeing these kids develop. Are you
looking at any of these kids on your roster, going
this kid's d one, this kid's going the distance? Possibly?

Speaker 9 (51:30):
You know, there's kids that have those qualities, Like there's
kids that have those you know, characteristics. What's so hard
about the middle school is you know these kids are thirteen,
fourteen years old, that some of the really big ones,
and we don't have a ton of these on our team.
But like as you look around the league, the really
big both like early bloomers, you ask yourself, like, all right,

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how much more are they going to grow? And then
some of the other kids that are more on the
early side, you say, hey, they've got a lot of
good qualities, they're good players.

Speaker 8 (51:59):
How big are it get? So I think footballs so.

Speaker 9 (52:03):
Hard because even if you have the skill sets, even
if you show those qualities of being a good receiver,
a good defensive back. As you guys know, so much
of the game and opportunity at the higher level is
just how big are you, how tall are you, how
much do you weigh?

Speaker 8 (52:16):
How fast you run?

Speaker 9 (52:17):
And I think at thirteen fourteen years old, it's it's
hard to predict for most of these kids what they're
going to look like at seventeen.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Yeah, we ran into that problem when I was playing
for the Scottsdale Shockers. We had a kid named James Reina.
I have no idea what he's doing to this day,
but he was about five six, five to seven and
he was like eight years old. He was like a
tall eight year old. He could run the hell out
of the rock. Fast forward to him being a senior
in high school. He's the same height. So that you
always got to be cautious about giving out a green Flaight, Hey,

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this kid's going to be the one. He's gonna be
the absolute one.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
What is the uh, what's the scattering report we got
on this upcoming game this week for you guys?

Speaker 2 (52:56):
What are the team keys to success?

Speaker 8 (53:00):
So number biggest focus today.

Speaker 9 (53:02):
So I'm literally on my way back to my airport,
back to the airport to fly home to get back
for practice. There's no days off boys, you know the deal.
So we got our first Monday. This will be our
first practice back after last week's game. We get the
kids the weekends off. We've gotten a little soft in
today's middle school. We should practice seven days a week.
But anyway, our biggest thing is we've got to clean

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up like our stuff. We've turned the ball over six
times at three games too many. We've got to protect
the ball. We got to get back to our basics.
The one thing our kids do. And I've told you
guys how much we value this, and our kids have
answered the bell.

Speaker 8 (53:41):
We play extremely hard.

Speaker 9 (53:42):
Our kids play fast, they run to the ball, we tackle,
we block, we finish. Like all the things that we stress,
we've done it. We've our kids have really answered and
done a good job. We need to play cleaner ball.
We got to protect the ball assignments. It's early in
the year, they're young. All of our going forward these
next couple of weeks is going to be like, we

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got to clean up our ball. It doesn't matter who
we play, it doesn't matter what they do. If we
clean up the little stuff that we can control, will
be hard to beat.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
It's gotta feel good sitting undefeated and knowing all the
issues you have and they're all internally fixable things. It's
not a talent issue. Talk about six turnovers in three games.
What is the total turnover margin you guys got going
on your team?

Speaker 9 (54:26):
Yeah, so I'd say we're probably even. We for six
mix of fumbles and picks. So I think for the
season we're even. Last time I ran the numbers, I
think we're six and six. So I feel pretty good
defensively about taking the ball all away. Offensively, got to
have a little bit more, a little bit more focused

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in that area.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Now when you're you know, when you're coaching these middle schoolers,
coach Greg Olsen, is this a situation to where you
challenge the offensive players to carry a football around school
during school hours? This seems like a prime I want
to see you carrying the football anytime I see you. Yeah,
locker room, bathroom doesn't matter, and guys are gonna come
trying to knock it out.

Speaker 9 (55:12):
Yeah, it's like remember in the remember in the in
the program, Yeah, you guys remember the movie the program when.

Speaker 8 (55:17):
You can't get the ball around.

Speaker 9 (55:18):
They knocked it out in class and they started like
a riot down the stairs or covering the fumble. Yeah,
I feel like we might need to. I don't think
our kids are ready for the program. You think we
can watch the program with middle school kids.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
I think so.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
I think there's a situation where you get your running
backs and quarterback carrying the ball around and they might
see Luke Keickley down the hall and you better protect
yourself because goa Kickley, He's going to get the ball out.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
That's that's the biggest thing, is making sure that you
and coach Keikley are at the school. I don't know
how often you're inside those hallways, but if you could
somehow dressed down to look like a middle school kid
and just kind of walk up and plus that thing out,
you get that on video, put it in a team
meeting by boys. Do you think this is how we're
going to be successful? No, on the line, everybody outside

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right now.

Speaker 8 (56:01):
I'll be honest. I like it.

Speaker 9 (56:05):
I like it.

Speaker 8 (56:06):
I think you're onto something.

Speaker 9 (56:07):
You know, every once in a while, you gotta we
used to say you gotta sliit the throat. You know,
every once in a while, you gotta sliit the throat.
You got to reset the standard. And uh, I think
caring the ball around and then and then hiring people
throughout the course of the day, Like, can we get
different teachers in on it. Can we get the administration
at the school, the principal. Can we get them kind

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of come punch peanut, punch rip the backside point, make
sure the front tip's the higher than the back Like,
can we make sure we test them throughout the entire day,
going between math and science, and make sure there's a
good cup the wrists when there's traffic, we get two
hands on the ball. Yeah, maybe no better way to
do it than in the hallways. I think you're onto something.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Yeah, you gotta get it's got to be a whole
team thing, especially when you're talk about how small your
school is. We don't have a lot of kids there.
Now everybody just gets into that. Okay, teachers, administration, if
you're gonna be like that, then we got to make
sure we're all kind of carrying the flag is making
sure our football team is as good as possible, because
the standard is the standard. You guys have set one.
Are we ready to move to the less important NFL?

Speaker 3 (57:11):
We can move through the NFL. I do need a
pregame speech from coach coach Olsen being like, hey, gentlemen,
every once in a while, you gotta slit somebody's throat.
This game is the game, you know what I mean?
I need I need that line in there with a
bunch of mini schools.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
And maybe kick their parents out of the locker room. Yeah,
get out of their parents, take the juice boxes and
the oranges. They'll get it when they earn it. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 9 (57:34):
Yeah, I'm not sure if I'm not sure if I
can use that line. It's a Christian school. We'll tone
down the pregame speech that that's me and you, that's
you and I.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Okay, no one watches.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
This show anyway. No one's gonna see that. So it's
all good.

Speaker 8 (57:47):
It'll work out in the locker room.

Speaker 9 (57:49):
We got to be a little bit more of age
appropriate with our messaging. Sometimes I lose my mind a
little bit. I'll be the first to admit, but I
at least them trying.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Yes, that's all that matters.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
So you can ask for Well, let's get to the NFL.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
So the game you called was the Eagles and the Rams.
Eagles end up winning that game thirty three to twenty oh.
The score doesn't tell the story, right, Rams have twenty
six at a half, they have twenty sixty the end
of the game, and they hold what they hold the
Eagles to what forty yards of offense in the first half, Like,
tell me, give me your bird's eye view of how

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this whole game went down, and finally the Eagles just
go fuck it, let's take over.

Speaker 8 (58:31):
Yes, So I think it came down to two things.
I think it came down to.

Speaker 9 (58:34):
In the first half, they asked Jalen Hurts in the
offense to do virtually nothing in the passing game, and
exactly why, I'm not exactly sure. I think the Rams
had a chance to put the game away. They had
multiple red zone trips, multiple field position advantage that they
settled for field goals at the final part of the

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get you know, there.

Speaker 8 (58:54):
Were four for six with field goals.

Speaker 9 (58:56):
Obviously the last two being blocked by phillyon obviously won
the game.

Speaker 8 (59:01):
So settling for field goals I thought was a huge issue.

Speaker 9 (59:04):
I thought a couple times they could have been more aggressive,
couldn't put the game away, and then Philly in the
second half put the game and put the ball in
the hands of Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 8 (59:13):
He played really well.

Speaker 9 (59:14):
They settled down some protection issues after they lost Lane Johnson.
They put in Fred Johnson, who was the second he
was the second backup right tackle, se the factor. He's
the fourth right tackle on the team. Did a really
good job in the second half settling them down in protection,
and they started throwing the ball to A. J. Brown
and Debante Smith and Dallas Goddard and and then obviously

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the two big men inside block two field goals on
back to back possessions of the Rams, and they were able.
Like they they've done now nineteen out of twenty times
in a row, they've found a way to win, even
if they haven't played their best ball.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
Yeah, do you think that the there should be any
concern on the Rams side, because I think from the
NFC standpoint, like people looked at the Rams as like
maybe a Tier two And now as we get a
little farther in the season, obviously the score didn't go
the way they wanted, but you're watching the first half
of that game, you're like, oh, are the Rams like
number two to the Packers. Obviously the Packers drops will
talk about that, But if you're the Rams if you're

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Sean McVay, what is your message to the team at
this point.

Speaker 8 (01:00:13):
I think the Rams are pretty good.

Speaker 9 (01:00:14):
Yeah, I know yesterday's that I think it's a tough loss,
and I know they're flying back, you know, to the
West Coast, just gutted that they let that game slip away.
But I think you'd take a step back and you say,
for most of the game.

Speaker 8 (01:00:28):
We we did exactly what we wanted to do.

Speaker 9 (01:00:31):
We didn't finish in the red zone, and they got
stopped on a fourth down try in the third fourth quarter,
they got stopped on a fourth and one. They ran
it right up the middle and didn't get it. So
I think if you're the Rams are saying I've got
a great defense, I'm really good up front.

Speaker 8 (01:00:46):
For most of the game we played well and offensively.

Speaker 9 (01:00:50):
If even one of those red zone possessions, we don't
settle for a field goal and we end up converting
there inside the you know, goal to go situation with
a touchdown, we.

Speaker 8 (01:00:59):
Win the game.

Speaker 9 (01:01:00):
So I think early in the season, a coach like
McVeigh is pulling out all the positives. He's pulling out
all the good and I think when you watch them
and you know, we saw it unfold in live you know,
a live timing, Like they're pretty good.

Speaker 8 (01:01:13):
They did a lot of really good things.

Speaker 9 (01:01:15):
They just have to find if you're gonna beat a
team like Philly, you have to put them away early
because if you let him hang around, they've proven to
be really hard to beat.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
Right, especially being able to out physical you in the
second half. It's kind of it's like if Philly and
last year is it was Philly in the lines you
get in the second half of that team, that offensive line,
the physicality of the game, they'll start to lean on
you and take over.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
What uh what was your make?

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
There's a clip going viral I feel like right now
of Jalen Hurts's reaction after Philly blocks a field goal
and they take it back to the house, Like again,
that kick right there, Rams make it number one is
so sad for all the betters out there, as far
as Ram Rams, what was a plus two.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
And a half three?

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
It was actually three and a half so we were
right there.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
So no matter if you make the field go or out,
you're like, oh, Rams covered, yeah, and they just got
one blocked the possession before It's like, surely this isn't
going to happen again. They block it and take it
back to the Alis. They lose the cover. But Jalen
has this, uh, this reaction, whether it's a stoic action,
the way he's you know, he's not like celebratory. What
do you make as somebody who played the game and

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you watch that reaction go down of a clip that's
just going viral and everybody's having a take on it.

Speaker 8 (01:02:29):
Yeah, I think that's what we've come to see from
Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 9 (01:02:32):
He's not a he's not going to ride the emotions
good or bad of the game.

Speaker 8 (01:02:36):
I think it's kind of part of his play style.

Speaker 9 (01:02:38):
I think that's what it's allowed him to whether what
he has in his college career and the ups and
downs he went through there in the adversity, and now obviously.

Speaker 8 (01:02:45):
With what he's accomplished in the league.

Speaker 9 (01:02:48):
I think that even Keel, he's never the biggest personality,
and he's never at the first half, he could have
just packed it up and went home because they were
struggling so bad. I think that's really one of his superpower.
So I don't ever expect him to show a lot
of emotion. I don't think it's who he is. I
don't think it's his style, and I respect him for it.
I think that is such a good quality out of

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the leader, out of the quarterback. Things are going to
go bad in the league, things are going to go good,
but just knowing that your quarterback is just always going
to be the same guy and you're never gonna be
able to tell the score based on his body language.

Speaker 8 (01:03:23):
I think we all wish we had a little bit
more of us.

Speaker 9 (01:03:25):
I know that's not a strength of mine, but I'm
impressed by Jalen and and really just his whole demeanor
and the way he's handled himself.

Speaker 8 (01:03:34):
I give him a lot of credit.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
Yeah, well, you're when you're covering, when you're covering the game, Like,
do you feel like the Rams were able to expose
something offensively with the Eagles? Like when you watch the
Eagles and you talk and people talk about how do
you beat the Eagles? How do you make it is
jailing through the area? Is it making them one dimensional?
Obviously you want to stop the roam with Saquon Barkley,
But from your vantage point, what do you see when

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you watch the Eagles? If you're an opponent watching their Tay.

Speaker 9 (01:04:02):
When the Eagles are at their best, which I think
was the second half of yesterday, it was a combination
of you're always gonna want to get the ball to
Saquon right. The run game is always going to be
a key element anytime you're talking about a team, you
know or running back that.

Speaker 8 (01:04:15):
Good, and obviously with the offensive line and that Philly has.

Speaker 9 (01:04:18):
But I think when they go too heavy with Saquon
and it becomes so overly run game, I think is
when they get out of whack. So I think in
the second half it became a mix of Saquon, a
lot more pass, a lot more play action, drop back stuff,
get the ball to aj Brown one on one on
the outside, and test these corners, hit you know, Devonte
Smith in the slot on a lot of these corner

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option routes, third down conversions, fourth down conversions.

Speaker 8 (01:04:42):
Like they did.

Speaker 9 (01:04:43):
And then I think activating Jalen Hurts as a designed runner.
We've seen him, you know, the first two games especially,
he didn't have a designed run call for him. It
was all scramble and improv off of the pass, and
he's super effective, super hard to get on the ground.
Yesterday we saw them start activate more quarterback designed runs.
So you factor all of those aspects of the offense

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into the same game, and now you're a real challenge
to beat both schematically. And then you look at all
the positions and you've got a lot of really good players.
So that's why I said, if I'm the Rams and
the challenge that is this Philadelphia Eagles offense, I think defensively,
I feel pretty good. You just wish you can get
one of those red zone possessions back. But they are

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a talented team with good coaching. They play situational ball
as good, if not better than everyone else, and it's
why they're just hard to beat.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
Yeah, yeah, I thought the Rams they are built in
a way to match up against the Eagles really well
because they have two elite wide receivers on the edge
and they You brought this up during the game is
drive to drive. In the first half, you see the
offensive play calling change from a run standpoint, like a
lot of times. The first drive, we're talking about a
lot of outside zone. We're attacking the perimeter quite a bit.

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The next drive the Eagles have made their adjustments. Now
we're hitting you with gaps game inside zone stuff and
allowing the run game and the scheme to kind of
play for them. So I think they do. They match
up well, and I hope, I hope we get to
see them in the playoffs. Transitioning a little bit, well,
a little bit to a different game. Bucks beat the
Jets twenty nine to twenty seven. Obviously, if you're the Buccaneers,

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you're three and zero, you feel good about it, but
you just beat He was a close game with a
Jets team that has a quarterbacker. What do we have
to say about Baker Mayfield at this point? He's got
three game winning drives in three games. He's won the
division what three times? Now four times?

Speaker 8 (01:06:30):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
Are we ready to put Baker Mayfield in the prestigious
generational talent category?

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
MVP conversation?

Speaker 8 (01:06:36):
Oh my god, tell you what, I don't.

Speaker 9 (01:06:40):
Know if you could feel better for a guy who's
over you're talking about adversity and dealing with stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:06:46):
I mean, what a job he has done.

Speaker 9 (01:06:48):
I mean, he was left for dead in the league,
gets his opportunity to go to Tampa post Tom Brady,
fill those shoes expectations. Todd Owles takes over as the
head coach, and all he has done is win all
he has done is find ways to lead that team.
I think his energy, I think his play style is infectious.

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You just can't help but root for guys like Baker,
and I think it's really a testament to how important
fit and belief of the organization is for the quarterback position.

Speaker 8 (01:07:20):
I mean, we're seeing it with Daniel Jones right now.

Speaker 9 (01:07:22):
I mean everyone wanted to throw him out of New
York the last couple of years, and now all he's
done is go get a fresh you know, fresh life,
new birth in Indianapolis, and he looks like a different player.

Speaker 8 (01:07:32):
So fit is so important.

Speaker 9 (01:07:34):
A team believing in you, empowering you to be their leader.
And that's what Todd Bowles, That's what Tampa has done
with Baker, and I think he deserves all the credit
that he's getting for the job he's done there, and
I'm happy for him.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
What else? Uh Pa? I was kind of just in
awe thinking.

Speaker 9 (01:07:53):
To my se, Hey, can I can I just say
what's obvious? And I'm sure you guys have talked about it.
Go ahead, will will you have a great bald head?

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Oh? Thank you, Greg, thank you a lot.

Speaker 8 (01:08:06):
Like I couldn't be like I'm balding.

Speaker 9 (01:08:08):
But I couldn't be like a bald bald because I
have a gigantic head.

Speaker 8 (01:08:12):
You have like a good shaped head to be bald.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Yeah, he really does. And and they got will Polk.

Speaker 8 (01:08:19):
I'm being serious. I think you look really good.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
No, I believe you. I appreciate those words.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
He yeah, he looks tougher like I think he dropped
three percent body fast.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Yeah, you got grittier.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
What is the game plan if you ever do go bald?

Speaker 9 (01:08:35):
Greg?

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
Are you gonna have fun with it for a little bit?
Do the could to sac Are you just gonna bick
it and move on? You're gonna go to Turkey?

Speaker 10 (01:08:41):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
What's the move there?

Speaker 9 (01:08:42):
Yeah, that's a great Listen. I'm gonna be honest with you.
This is a question that I've had. This is a
this is a thought that I've worked through internally.

Speaker 8 (01:08:50):
You're you're this.

Speaker 9 (01:08:52):
You're putting me on the spot. But it's not the
first time that I've had these thoughts. That's a great
I don't know. My My concern is it's not like
a vanity thing, Like I'm not a huge like worried
about what I look like.

Speaker 8 (01:09:06):
I very rarely even comb my hair.

Speaker 9 (01:09:10):
I just don't know if i'd be a good bald
guy because my head is so big, so like that
would be a pretty jarring transition for me.

Speaker 8 (01:09:18):
Can we can we plug it up? Can we get
some in plant? I don't know. I think all options
right now are on the table.

Speaker 9 (01:09:25):
I just turned forty, and I don't know if I
have a clear favorite right now.

Speaker 8 (01:09:30):
Leader in the clubhouse.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Yeah, turning forty, though, I feel like at this point
it's like, yeah, it'll probably send more and more as
you go, but by the time you're sixty, it's like,
do we really care?

Speaker 8 (01:09:40):
Yeah, Oh it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
No, it doesn't matter. Know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
When you're forty and you got that head of hair,
whether or not it's fading or thinning, whatever it is,
I feel like you're gonna be pretty solid for the
next deck.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
And I'm hanging on.

Speaker 9 (01:09:51):
Yeah, I'm hanging on for dear life. I'm really good
like sides and back. You know, helmets, hats, front gets
a little a brace, you know, a little abrasion there
in the front of follicles probably aren't as thick as
they once were, but it's a lot. It's a lot
of helmets, a lot of days with the boys, uh

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grinding and camp probably lost a few few follicles over
the years.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
You know, you know that?

Speaker 8 (01:10:18):
Go although Taylor, you got great hair too, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
Yeah, I had to give that. Dave la one My
My daddy's sixty years old and he his hair is
just as thick as minus to this day. He's just
a silver fox.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
What a gift.

Speaker 8 (01:10:32):
We're at any gift.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
We're at ESPN this weekend and it's the conversation. My
father came up and my hair and I showed the
makeup lady my father. She said, I would date your
father right now. How old are you? She goes on
forty five? I go, Dave would probably call, He would call.
He's he's full of trt, greg like he's that that
boy is after it right now. He's getting after good
for day. Shout out Dave la one shot Dave.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
What is your biggest takeaway? What do you think the
biggest headline is coming out of the Browns beating the Packers?
Is it more so packers drink the kool aid? This
is kind of a trap game situation in college football
and they got trapped. Do you think it speaks more
about what the Browns have going on defensively in Cleveland.

Speaker 9 (01:11:16):
Yeah, so, I'll be honest, I didn't catch the game, obviously,
I saw the box scorer and I saw the score.
I was shocked, I'll be honest. I thought the Packers
were rolling. They've looked really good through the first two weeks.
I was that game. That game in the Carolina Atlanta
game probably were my two biggest surprises, just outcome wise,
and then obviously the Carolina game. Just you don't see

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a lot of NFL games thirty to nothing, regardless of
who the teams are. But yeah, I thought, I do
agree with you what Cleveland can do defensively, and the
dudes that they have up front and that system, they're
gonna give a lot of teams trouble. I just think
it's a nature of the NFL, like I think the
difference between the top tier and the bottom tier. It's

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very different than college football. It's very different to you know,
where you just assume like, oh, these games are just
easy to call. It seems like every week there's that
one or two games that no matter how much you
think you follow ball, no matter how much you think
you understand about these teams, something always goes sideways, and
I think that's the beauty of the NFL. It's why
we all tune in, it's why we all talk about

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it all day every day. And that's a huge win
for Cleveland just culturally, the belief within the locker room, like, hey,
we can go toe to toe with anybody in this league.
Now the key is can we do this over and
over and over again, which, of course is what every
team is chasing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
It's very interesting too, like I feel like there's always
one week in the year, possibly two weeks, where it's
like everything kind of just gets fucked up in the NFL,
Like all the good teams, like the Packers, they just
randomly drop one. You look at a Panthers Falcons, you
already brought that up. It's like you don't really know
who's gonna win the game. Everyone kind of the public
sits there and go, well, Falcons, pennex Pits, Bejeon, like

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those guys are probably gonna see role of Panthers.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
Vikings beating out the Bengals.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Yeah, it's like you look at these games, You're like,
these are supposed to be more competitive, and then even
the Commanders and Raiders, like I think the consensus was like, yeah,
the Commands will probably win this game, but not by
that margin. And I feel like every so often in
the football season you always run into these wonky weeks,
and I think they kind of we kind of have
one of us. If I'm personally just in my opinion,
if I'm the Packers, like, I'm not sweating this. Michael

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Parsons had a great, great take on this, is like,
we're a great team and we sometimes you shit the bed,
and that's exactly what we did. We just shit the bed.
So they know what they they know what they have. Yeah,
because that that game. Honestly, if I'm the Browns and
I'm like, okay, we have a defense, it's essentially gonna
keep us in every single game. Why not go to
Gabriel or Shore or kind of move on, just kind

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of see what you have a little bit because Flacco,
I love Joe cool, He's he's the man, and if
they want to ride with him all season, I'm all
about that train. But like, why not get a little spicy.
You know you're offensively, you're not doing a whole lot.
You're averaging like fifteen point two your points per game, Like,
why not kind of throw it in there a little.

Speaker 6 (01:14:00):
But if they had an offense, they would be they'd
be a top tier team.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Yeah, and uh, Judkins, Judkins, he got he gets his
first touchdown of his career. Like they kind of they
got a little like, oh, this is what you need
to see. Maybe we do throw a young cat in there,
let him spin it and have him fail fail forward.
Yeah yeah, so yeah, do you think they should think?

Speaker 9 (01:14:22):
I think coaches always struggle with the with that baton
handoff right, and then and then you know, conventional wisdom,
you said, are we're really good defensively, that's what every
good young quarterback needs. And then I think sometimes these
coaches go, well, let's just manage the offense and not
make the defense's job any harder. And let's try to
squeak out some of these you know, one score games.

(01:14:42):
Let's squeak out some of these games that are in
the teams. Right, we're both you know, holding our opponents
under twenty every single week. Let's not throw picks, let's
not make mistakes. So I think that's the other side
of it. But it's hard, right, It's a hard decision.
When do you go to a young quarterback? Is that
young quarterback ready, is that quarter walking into a environment

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that's good for not only the immediate success of the team, Right,
like the Browns wanting to win now, They're not trying
to win in three years. And you know, Shador or
Gabriel whoever is the quarterback two three years from now.
They got to win now. They got to strike while
Miles Garrett is still one of the best players in
the league.

Speaker 8 (01:15:17):
And this defense is still as loaded as it is.

Speaker 9 (01:15:19):
So they've got to They've got to fit the balance
between being good today and also being able to not
stunt any growth and development of the future. And I
think that's what all these coaches that go through these
quarterback transitions, that's what keeps them up at night.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
Yeah, looking at the did you happen to catch the
Bears Cowboys game?

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
Are you buying.

Speaker 8 (01:15:40):
Most I caught half of it in flying Home?

Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
Are you buying the the Bears offense and making a
huge jump in the week two? I don't know how
much you've gotten to break down the Dallas defense. I
think they're absolutely atrocious. But what do you is your
takeaway coming out of the Bears beating the Cowboys?

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:15:59):
So I think first off, you never apologize and you
got obviously, I'm not telling you guys something you don't know.
You never apologize in the league for having a great game.
You never apologize for seeing growth. It doesn't matter who
you play against. Growth and development and improvement in the
NFL is always going to be celebrated by everyone.

Speaker 8 (01:16:14):
So a win's a win. A great offensive performance is
a great offensive performance.

Speaker 9 (01:16:19):
Having said that, my hedges, I did see this Dallas
defense the week before win, but give up forty to
the Giants, and we've seen the Giants in pretty much
all of their other games have very little success offensively.
So you start asking yourself where the Giants now? Russ
was amazing in Week two in that game they should

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have won. They lost on the long field goal Aubrey
and all that. But like that was a shootout in
the you know, and went to overtime in the fourth quarter.
Both teams scored forty. Like it was an unbelievably offensive game.
So I look back and I say, okay, now, can
the Giants follow up that performance against Dallas? Can they
follow it up against a city really good defense? They

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didn't score? And then you ask, all right, the Bears, Okay,
So they do it against Dallas, Let's see how the
Bears do it next week, Like can they follow up
after playing the Cowboys and having all that, you know,
having more success, can they follow it up again? So
I think it's twofold. They got better. There's a lot
to build on. I thought Caleb threw three touchdowns in
the first half, and can they do that now as

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the season goes on, because it seems like everyone's kind
of having their way the last two weeks.

Speaker 8 (01:17:28):
With Dallas's defense.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
It's surprising to me, Man. I know you were talking
about watching Dallas the week before, but Taylor and I
were watching that film together and it's just surprising to
me as a defensive guy to see just a lot
of static alignment. You know exactly what covers they're about
to be in pre snap. There's not a lot of
disguise when they are blitzing. It's like everybody's across the

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line of scrimmage. It's fascinating to me, and we're sitting
there watching that game, I'm like, man, why is the
I wonder why the line is one and a half
against the Bears, Like, surely Dallas and Dax smoke the Bears,
but then you watch the tape and you're like, oh,
this Dallas defense is just.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
Not horrendous, and it is. Yeah, it's bad to see.

Speaker 8 (01:18:10):
Yeah, they gotta figure they gotta figure it out quick.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
Right, because I sit there and I look at the
Cowboys and I'm like, your offense, like you can get
it done. You can get it done and move the
ball and take care of it, like run it, you
can throw it. Like I feel good about their offense.
But like when they go from the Giants game into
the Bears game and they don't change anything, and I
have to go back and really watch the film. But
as you're watching that game live, it's like they're not
moving at all. Before the ball is snapped, they're doing

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the exact same thing they did last week. And if
you're gonna continue to be stubborn, if you're I refluce
and you're not, you're like, hey, this is my defense
is we're gonna run. You're gonna miss the playoffs and
you're gonna waste another year of Dak Prescott ceedee Lamb
gets hurt. So now all you have is George Pickens
and so it's like you need to They're they're a
very fragile foundation franchise right now.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
What I hate out of it is, you know the
world's gonna be coming at Dak Prescott in that offense,
right because the.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
Fourteen points and it's like, the thing you take away
from that game is like, hey, Bears fans, you should
be excited about your defense the way they stood up.
But you know, ceed does get hurt. Chargers beat the
Broncos twenty three to twenty. Chargers go up in that
game ten zero. Broncos answer is seventeen seventeen points unanswered,
and then it's like, Okay, what are we going to

(01:19:17):
see that justin Herbert? And Justin Herbert shows that, you know,
there's a reason why people are starting to whisper a
top five quarterback, top five quarterback? Did you were you
able to watch that game at all?

Speaker 9 (01:19:26):
I didn't see that game. I saw the highlights in
the recap. And what I will say is because I
saw Week one, I saw Herbert. You know we all
watched that opening game. I'll say what I'll tell you
what the job that Harbaugh has done with that team,
the organization, all the all the dude does is win
everywhere he goes at every level and he has brought
out the best in Justin Herbert. And physically, I don't

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think all of a sudden he taught him to throw better.
He didn't make him taller and faster and stronger. There's
something that Harbaugh does to his quarterbacks that makes them
know he unequivocally just believes in He pours.

Speaker 8 (01:20:00):
Into them and it shows.

Speaker 9 (01:20:02):
And I think since he's gotten there, there's a reason
why we've seen the best of Justin Herbert and we've
seen him kind of now take his game to where
everyone thought he could.

Speaker 8 (01:20:12):
And I think that's what we've seen.

Speaker 9 (01:20:14):
Harball do his in his entire career is get the
best out of people, especially the quarterback position. So I again,
I don't have any intimate knowledge of that exact game
or how it all went down, and I saw highlights
of it, but I think the Chargers are for real
in the AFC. I mean, I think right now it's
Bill's Ravens. Chiefs defensively are nasty. They got to just

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continue to find some more points on offense. But I
think I think the.

Speaker 8 (01:20:40):
Chargers are starting to approach that top tier group.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
Yeah, I mean they've had three three in division games
in three weeks and they're three and zero. I mean,
that's that says a lot. Thing you have to worry
about if you're the Chargers is what do they want
to do? They always want to run the football, and
you lose Naja Harris to what seemed like an Achilles' injury.
I mean, he knew it right away. You see the
slom all, you see pop with the calf, and it's
heartbreaking because his offseason he has the fourth of July.
But then Hampton he comes in and he starts running

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the ball really well, has his first touchdown, looks really good.
And so I wonder if they go and trade for
a running back because at the end of the day,
it's what they want to do, is they want to
establish a strong run game. It's only gonna help Herbert more.
But I'm fired up about the Chargers, their offense and
Jesse Minter's defense. It just proves that Michigan never cheated.

Speaker 8 (01:21:26):
There you go that all that to say that, God, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
I mean, buddy, I mean, Jesse Minter is gonna be
an NFL head coach in the NFL next year if
they keep going the way they are right now. I
mean's McDonald two point zero. It's it's very impressive to see.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
Do you think I have a question for you with
the Vikings. Do you think if Carson is playing well,
the Vikings end up in a weird conversation when JJ
McCarthy comes back. If the Vikings continue to win, well.

Speaker 9 (01:21:53):
I'll tell you what I so I have the Vikings
this week in Dublin for flying to Ireland on Thursday,
so that'll be fun.

Speaker 8 (01:21:59):
So they play Pittsburgh. I think it's a great question.

Speaker 9 (01:22:03):
I think it's a little maybe a little yeah early,
I think it's surely to have that conversation, but trust me,
and it's hard of hearts. I think Kevin O'Connell is
at least preparing for that situation. And I think everyone
there would love that to be the problem, right, you
would love your everyone dreams of your backup quarterback having
to play due to injury and coming in and doing

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exactly what the backup quarterbacks job, which to keep this
thing afloat and continue to keep us competitive and help
us win games. He did more than that yesterday. Obviously,
He's a guy that's played for multiple different teams. He's
had success in this league. He's been around a long time.
But then the other side of that coin is quarterback
controversy is hard.

Speaker 8 (01:22:45):
It's a storyline, it's something every team dreads.

Speaker 9 (01:22:49):
Do. I think it's a no brainer that if he's
playing well and they're winning, that they just turn it
right back to JJ McCarthy. I don't think it's a
no brainer. Would it be tough to turn your back
on your young quarterback who essentially is in his rookie
year due to the lost year last year? I think
it would be tough. I think it'd be hard on him.
I think it'd be a setback developmentally. But the ultimate

(01:23:10):
job of the head coach is to do what's in
the best interest of the team to win right now,
and this week will go a long way like Week one.
As a backup, I always say is like the easy week.
You catch everybody a little off guard. Now teams have
seen you in this offense, you got to do it again.
Before we start entering into all the hypothetical what ifs.

Speaker 1 (01:23:29):
Yeah, I think if it keeps going well for Carson Wentz,
what you need to do if you're Kevin O'Connell and
the Vikings is just become the charity franchise and pay
JJ McCarthy one hundred million dollars, be like, hey, get hurt,
you can be you can be your pseudo backup, and
then bring first round picks in that haven't made it
their other franchise and revamp their entire career that the Viking.

(01:23:51):
The Viki's gonna do a lot of charity work because
it seems like anyone who comes in contact with Kevin
O'Connell just gets better at football.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
Look at Danny diines out in indianasty.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
Yeah, I mean, have you like is Daniel? Is he
for real?

Speaker 8 (01:24:03):
I've always liked Daniel.

Speaker 9 (01:24:05):
I've always thought he got a little bit of the
short end of the stick. I think it's I think
the New York market, understandably so is a tough market.
There's high expectations, a lot of eyeballs, a lot of scrutiny.
I oh, I like, he's a Charlotte kid. I trained
with him during you know, during COVID, so I know
him personally. So I'm probably biased, but I've always thought,

(01:24:27):
you're a big, strong, fast kid who's super smart, really
good demeanor good, Like, what else are you looking for
out of the quarterback position? Like if you're making guys.
He's kind of checking all of those boxes. He just
needed to be around a place that believed in him,
pour it into him. A lot of the things we're
saying about these other franchises with Baker, and you can

(01:24:47):
see the organizations that embrace a guy and say you're
our guy. There's no question, don't look over your shoulder,
just go play ball. It's amazing how much better those
guys play. And the job Shane Steike, it's done with
him out in Indianapolis in a short time. I know there's
a lot of controversy when he won that starting job,
but obviously they saw something this offseason to turn it

(01:25:08):
over to him, and they look like geniuses.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:25:12):
What's your before we let you go? What are you
think in the night with Detroit Baltimore? Now, if you
think of prime time Lamar Jackson once that that the
boys that bust with the Boys is aware of. He's
seven and two in Monday night football games. Very good record, Greg. Now,
the two games he's lost, they've been they've been in

(01:25:33):
the month of September.

Speaker 11 (01:25:38):
Wow, you poor.

Speaker 8 (01:25:39):
I mean, you're getting every You're getting every angle on this.
That's what I'm saying no, I mean it's real.

Speaker 9 (01:25:45):
I don't I personally don't buy into like I think
there's a lot of trends and stats and records by months,
and it could be as simple as you played harder
teams in September than you did later on. Like there's
always a lot of nuance to those trends with short,
you know, kind of small sample sizes.

Speaker 8 (01:26:03):
I think it's a fascinating game. I think it's one
of the best games.

Speaker 9 (01:26:07):
Matchups of the early you know, slate of this season
so far through three weeks. After Week one, I would
have said that the Lions they got some work to do,
they really missing their two coordinators.

Speaker 8 (01:26:18):
Then last week they bounced way back and they looked amazing.

Speaker 9 (01:26:22):
So if we get that version of the Lions, which
is what we've come to imagine over the last couple
of years, and the Ravens that we really know, I mean,
we could be looking at, you know, a Super Bowl
preview like these are two teams that are at least
in that conversation in their in their conferences, respectively. So
I can't wait to get home and watch it. My

(01:26:44):
gut is Baltimore is better, but I don't know I'm
not a gambler, I'm not a better so I don't
really like pick games. But I think it's a hell
of a game. Where is the game? Remind me where
the game is?

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
Baltimore?

Speaker 9 (01:26:57):
All right, yeah, Baltimore night game in Baltim. I'd probably
give the edge. What's the line? Who's favorite? I'm assuming Baltimore's.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
Favorite, Baltimore's favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
Yeah, it's not, it's not. It's not a big line though,
not a big.

Speaker 8 (01:27:07):
Line, all right, I know what it done to my head.
I'd say I would think Baltimore.

Speaker 9 (01:27:11):
But after last week, I feel a lot better about
Detroit than I did after week one.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
Will had a little parlay that I threw in the
group chat last night. It was Chiefs altered line minus
six and a half and now it's five point five?

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
Is a line? Huh? Five and a half?

Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
So so Ravens are five and a half. But then
was it fifty eight and a half?

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
I like points in this game because for me, it's
like Baltimore is the better roster. I think the Lions
are on a get back, in a get back mode.
They performed very well last week, so I like to
see fireworks in this when you watched the Ravens last
week against the Browns. Correct, it was. You know, Lamar
missed a few like three throws in that first quarter
down the field, and if they just start faster, they'll

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get going. So I like the I like the total points.
I like fireworks tonight.

Speaker 8 (01:27:55):
Greg.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
Yeah, we need it. We need it because we all soon.

Speaker 8 (01:27:58):
We got man.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:27:59):
Well, seeing you guys, I.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
Do want to ask about the Chiefs. Are the Chiefs
gonna be okay?

Speaker 9 (01:28:06):
I think they're gonna be okay. I think their defense
is nasty. I think they're young. I think they're talented.
I think Spags is as good as it gets. They're
going to keep them in games like we've seen pretty
much all season, and you know, the last couple of years, offensively,
they got to find their groove a little bit.

Speaker 8 (01:28:21):
I think they know that. I still think they're trying
to figure out personnel. You know, do they get Rashi
Rice back and they get you know, get some of these.

Speaker 9 (01:28:28):
Young guys rolling so offensively, they they got some things
to figure out. But again, it's a lot easier to
play offense in the NFL when your defense is given
up less than twenty a game like it just takes
so much pressure off. You know how good you have
to be? Now, are you going to win the super
Bowl with that model? I went and't hang my hat
on it. So they got to get better offensively. We've
seen them get better as the years have gone on,

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over the last couple of years when people have thought
they were dead. So I don't ever think you count
out Mahomes and Andy Reid and Kelsey and guys that
we've seen do it for a long time at a
highlight level. But there's no question offensively, they got to
start finding some answers.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
I love it, Greg. Thank you guys. Always get run
A plus for Greg, dude. Appreciate you. I know you're
busy and I know you're doing your thing.

Speaker 8 (01:29:10):
Appreciate you, guys.

Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
Good luck this Wednesday. Good luck this Wednesday. I expect
at least three scores in the first half. We gotta
start fast.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
Maybe you shoot the boys attext here we're at, this
is where we're at.

Speaker 9 (01:29:22):
Yeah, we gotta start faster. That's on me. I gota
do a bad job a.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
Go guys.

Speaker 8 (01:29:29):
See you, guys see it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
Notice that Greg did not say I love you back.

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
To Okay, that's turmoil. That's stage one right there. Now
he knows it's getting said, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
Yeah, because you know he got off. He's like, love
you shit, I didn't say it back.

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
Kind of a situation. I mean, we kind of talked
a lot about NFL. I love to get Jack back
on here. He needs to talk about the Titans.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
Can we get Jack McPherson. Let's get Jack McPherson. All right.

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Speaker 3 (01:32:32):
Before Jack gets on here too, let's let's hit some
tiar talk. Yeah, we had some tier talk. We had
some some submissions. This first one is from Brandon at
Colesports Junkie hashtag tear talk about fan bases that are
in hell hashtag Broncos. I don't think the Denvers fan
base should be in hell. I think there are question

(01:32:53):
marks there. You start off one and two. Obviously there
was this expectation of the Broncos being a dark horse
in that division to win division. But again, you lose
two close games. You do got to figure some things
out offensively, you have a hell of a defense. You
are not in hell as much as say the Cowboys
fan base should.

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
Or the Titans fan base should.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
Should be. Yes, yeah, the New York Giants fan base.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
Yeah, if you here, here's the concern I'll give to
you if you're worried about the Broncos, and I'm going
to fuel that fire a little bit. Bot Nick started
sixty one football games in college. Okay, you had a
lot of time to do a lot of things. The
fear there would be is he at his ceiling right now?
That that's the fear because you look at what the
Broncos hanging their had on last year. It was their defense.

(01:33:38):
And you go in there. They obviously still a great
defense and get a lot of person on the quarterback.
They have a great secondary. But you look at the
Chargers and from a defense versus defense standpoint, the Chargers
played a better game yesterday and kind of show that
we're the best defense in the AFC West. So I
don't know if this is your year, but I think
there's there's a little bit more that you can give.

(01:33:59):
And this is one score game right against the Chargers, who,
in my opinion, are quickly making themselves a top tier
AFC team, which is very, very exciting. So you know,
a little bit of sadness, a little bit of happiness overall.
I think you're gonna behind I.

Speaker 3 (01:34:11):
Like two after the game, JK. Dobbins, he had a little,
uh locker room interview to where he's like, n he
didn't he didn't play back game. We got his back.
I got his back. We got to do a better
job of making plays when we got him, whether or
not it's a good throw or a bad throw, like
we all have bon Nix's back. That's what you want
to see because they're I mean, it's like, you know,
these tight games the last two weeks. I don't think

(01:34:34):
the Broncos should be pressing the panic button whatsoever. They're
not like the fighting a Lini getting their apps and
the ass is absolutely pummeled India.

Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
This next one comes from Michael Smith at Smitty three
six nine one hashtag tear talk. Did Skataboo take over
for CMC as an all white RB one before our
eyes last night?

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
I'll tell you what he did. Get the blood flown
below the belt last night. I'm seeing no Skataboo. Yeah,
go out there.

Speaker 3 (01:35:00):
I do want to see him. Maybe listen the boys,
the defenders know you're coming. Like, let's not just go
full lean in with your head at all times, right,
like we gotta keep you, We gotta keep you around.
I love the juice factory of Camp Scataboo in lowering
the boom. But now you got to start playing with
the bag a little bit. Yeah, because he's got some
shake to him.

Speaker 2 (01:35:19):
He's got shake.

Speaker 1 (01:35:20):
He got a great center of gravity too. Like you
catch an edge, No one's bringing you down, my hips, brother,
you can do your thing.

Speaker 6 (01:35:25):
Don't fix it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:25):
See yeah, now hit the spin like go down because
defenders are going to just startling like Scataboo that's a
load of detaining, right.

Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
Yeah, if you're the secondary and you think, my god,
if this boy breaks for he's not even trying, he's
not even trying to run past me. No, he's gonna
put me in concussion protocol. I think when you look
at CMC and you look at Scataboo, it's like when
CMC came through at Stanford, he had that viral video
coming out of him moving his feet and people being
like this is sped up, and it really wasn't sped
up because the TV in the background. It's like that's
where the white guys go. We got one too, Like

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that's a thoroughbred right there. This Scataboo is a miniature
Clydesdale boys here to pull wagons. He is not messing
around like this is. We got two totally different wats
ripping around on the football field on Sunday afternoons. I
love to see it for his health and his longevity
in the league. I do think you switch up the
back a little bit. We know what his fastball is,

(01:36:16):
but buddy, if you throw one o five, one oh six,
like fucking throw one o five, one o six, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:36:21):
I think what you love to see out of Scatterboo too.
You look at him and McCaffrey both coming in the league. McCaffrey,
this is collared shirt tucked in the Levi's Uh camp Scattaboo,
I wouldn't put it passive. He was rocking South Paws
a young buck. Yeah, our south Pole and not South
paul Man. Scataboo. Did you see the backflip in the
in the the touchdown celebration and that was.

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
Many he did that.

Speaker 6 (01:36:43):
He did that at Arizona State with us.

Speaker 1 (01:36:45):
Yeah, but buddy, he did that backflip like three inches
off the ground. Didn't jump, yeah, didn't jump like Yeah.
He is just a little ball. Uh Yeah, he's a
Shetland pony with the legs of a Clydesdale. See if
you can find that on chess.

Speaker 2 (01:36:59):
I'm in my living room just standing up beat my chest.

Speaker 8 (01:37:01):
Can Scattaboo.

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
Yeah, I saw a couple of tweets last night to
get Scataboo on the bus. We will get Scataboo on
the bus. Yeah, he will have it. And just remember
the first people to know about Scataboo was busting with
the boys.

Speaker 4 (01:37:13):
We have tried to get him on the bus.

Speaker 3 (01:37:14):
It just was Yeah, it just didn't work out. He
was focused, he was focused on getting drafted. This one
comes from at.

Speaker 2 (01:37:23):
Garth Garrels Girls, Garrels.

Speaker 3 (01:37:27):
Tier talk how long should fan bases give a quarterback
before making a judgment call. I think this one is
a hard one. There's no hashtags, there's no specific situation
that he's talking about. So I'm going to give the
political answer of every situation is different.

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
There's yeah, I agree. There's so many different variables that
come in when you're judging your quarterback. Let's say you
have great receivers, you have proven receivers in that team,
you have a proven offensive line, and your quarterback is
not abut to facilitate the ball that least is gonna
be much shorter than a team that you know. You
look at the Titans and you think, okay, like, yeah,
we got guys dropping balls a little bit. Cam Ward
his his stat line's not going to be great every

(01:38:05):
single week because of the product that's on the field
with him. And I'm trying to be as cautious as
possible because I do love the Titans, but it's like
they're not They're not a team that's anywhere close to
complete right now. When Cam shows splashes, You're like, all right,
we got a guy here, now, can we take pieces
and put it around him. I think that leash is
extremely long, as opposed to my other example.

Speaker 5 (01:38:25):
I just had.

Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
That's I think in the NFL a year and a half.

Speaker 6 (01:38:32):
Yeah, what about like the brown situation with Flacco and
you had you obviously draft Yeah, we talked about it
with Greg a little bit, but I mean you drafted
Dylan Gabriel and sder Sanders.

Speaker 8 (01:38:41):
Like that defense is real.

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
You just need an offense, right, you need somebody that
can give a little spark to it. And I liked
I liked Greg's answer, and I didn't like brigs answer because, like,
at the end of the day, like what he was
saying is the Browns offense just needs to take care
of the football. Well, Joe Flacco is an absolute stud,
and he'd like he's at the age where boy don't
give a shit anymore. He knows he's playing on borrow time,
so he'll send a thing all over the field and
give up multiple interceptions the game, but also throw multiple

(01:39:05):
touchdowns game. So if you're looking towards the future, I
think it's like this is nothing that's flak. I'm a
big Joe, cool guy. But if you're in a year
where you're like, we know we're not contenders, but we
have a great defense, let's go and throw one of
the young bucks in there and see what they can do. Now,
I love Shadora his conversation being around like practices are
my game day. I'm taking every single one like it.

(01:39:27):
But then Gabriel gets in in some garbage time versus
the Ravens does himself a touchdown, like, hey, why not
you still got Judy, you still got Njoku, you got
you know, Judkins, who seems like he's gonna be a
little bit of a weapon in the league. Like you've
got some guys your offensive lines banked up a little bit,
but why not get in there and just let him toss.

Speaker 3 (01:39:44):
Maybe they'll go through some looks to where they get
in some kind of rhythm on the back half of
the year, especially if you have a defense like that,
because you think back, it's like you got Joe smooth
and you look at you know, managing the game well
not you know, turnovers low and things like that to
where you allow the defense to kind of win you games.
Back to that Ravens team. Who was a hassleback was
the quarterback their offense.

Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
They didn't really have an offense. They just needed to
not turn the ball over.

Speaker 3 (01:40:08):
The Ravens defense was gonna win you that football game.
It is very uh yeah, it all depends on the situation.
It all depends on the situation. But thank you Garth
for shooting in that shooting in that message. Hashtag tier talk.

Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
This next one comes from at Matthew Reichel hashtag teer talk.
Should the Bengals trade for Kirk Cousins?

Speaker 2 (01:40:28):
Will should the Bengals trades for Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
It's a lot of money to have on one team.

Speaker 3 (01:40:36):
It would be a lot of money to have on
one team, especially at the quarterback position. Browning is like, yeah,
they got their ass whip this week. But again, it's
like in a situation to where you have an elite
defense like Cleveland, to where hey, this is a musk,
like we could win if we had a serviceable quarterback there.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
And I say that too.

Speaker 3 (01:40:58):
Browning has proven that he could play in the back
of roll. You're gonna have games like that. I don't
think you're just absolutely hitting the panting button. You need
the defense to pick it up a bit. This is
like a full team effort on the Bengals part. Now,
if it's again, if it's like they were in the
Brown situation, I think you very much would want to
go out there and get a quarterback in now because
there is an opportunity to win games right now.

Speaker 1 (01:41:19):
Yeah, I think, uh yeah, if you want to go ahead, well,
it depends like if is Joe Burrow out for three
months for real or it is gonna be a little longer.
Is his season over?

Speaker 5 (01:41:28):
But you're not.

Speaker 2 (01:41:29):
You're not gonna see that. It's way too much money
in one room.

Speaker 3 (01:41:31):
Yeah, you're gonna have to pay for Kirk Cousins whether
or not you're going off of how he played last year,
and you could probably get him for cheap. I'm just
telling you right now, like there's you know, if you're Kirk,
it's like you're not going anywhere just to like play
for low money, right you know, on a team that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
Has you know, no no defense, right exactly, you have
Jamar Chase and Tas you have Jamar.

Speaker 1 (01:41:50):
Chase, and so it could be an opportunity where Kirk
Cousins does look at just to play Devil's Advocate where
he's like, hey, people think I'm not ship. There's weapons
over there that I can make it seem like I
am still the ship. Yeah, so why not get up
and get that thing done?

Speaker 3 (01:42:01):
It's one up there from at Mick Roomy Michael Rooms,
Friend of the Show, Friend of the Show, Friend of
the Show, Michael is teams lose their best players because
of a borderline targeting call that changes the game. I
love this idea that he's putting out to us. What
are Busting's thoughts on making a making targeting a flagrant

(01:42:24):
one to two type of penalty. Flagrant one would be
something like an accidental head to head contact no ejection.
Flagrant two obvious targeting calls ejection hashtag tier talk. I
love that idea because that's that hurts the fucking game man.
We were in a situation the Nebraska Michigan game, number
six with number six puts a lick on Jacory Barney

(01:42:47):
right before right before the goal line. It was something
that they reviewed then they kind of took away the penalty.
But that's one two where it's just gray. It's like, hey,
if you're going just off the rule, could that be yes?
Do you love seeing that on the football field. Yes,
it didn't seem like it was uh malicious. Yeah, it
didn't seem like it was malicious at all. You go
a week earlier at LSU and with Weeks lays that

(01:43:08):
Lake on old buddy out there on the perimeter looks
like just an incredible tackle and incredible form tackle. Unfortunately
his head was leading. They end up ejecting him from
the game. So I love the idea of a flagrant
one flagrant two, like you have tears to it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:21):
Yeah, in our segment he talk and our segment tear talk.
Uh yeah, I agree with everything you just said. I
hate the targeting call. I understand why the targeting call
is there to protect the players, but it's so gray
and it truly depends on what ref is calling it.
And I hate that. I absolutely hate it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:39):
All Right, where's there? Where's Jackie boy?

Speaker 1 (01:43:43):
Jack?

Speaker 2 (01:43:47):
Tennessee Nation, Titans Nation needs to hear from you, man.

Speaker 1 (01:43:50):
And now I will say this about Jack McPherson, uh
and Garrett they are officially the flag holders of the
Tennessee Titans fan base. It seems like they have an
incredible pulse about how they feel. I hate where the
Titans are at right now because the pulse is very negative,
very low pulse. We're an ICU type of situation, whether

(01:44:10):
it's the coach, the team. You look at tickets distributed
versus the tickets that are people that are actually at
the game, they're not matching up at all. It is
cheaper to go to a Vanderbilt gate or to go
to a Titans game versus the Colts, and it is
to go to a Vanderbilt versus Georgia State Like it
is hard. It is tough out there, and with a
mostly publicly subsidized stadium coming in twenty twenty seven, it's

(01:44:35):
a tough look right now for the Times. And I know, Jeck,
we had a whole conversation about that. That's a whole
different thing that we don't have to get into. But
new stadium, Titans arguably the worst team in the NFL
right now. Boys, will turn it over to you. Take
as long as you'd like.

Speaker 2 (01:44:49):
And too, Jack like, if you could paint me a
picture of the Titans fan base as a whole. I
know there's a lot of negative.

Speaker 3 (01:44:55):
Maybe there's some some other takes out there on the
other side that maybe you were rolling through to find
some optimism or find some light, because I didn't want
once I saw where this game was going, I was
more so all eyes on the Eagles rams going on
in Philly.

Speaker 2 (01:45:09):
So kind of paying us a picture.

Speaker 11 (01:45:11):
I mean, I'm sure that if you were watching games
from your couch, you maybe caught all of two minutes
of the Titans Colts game. The Titans started off on
the third play with a pick six. Unfortunately cam Ward
threw one, and I literally just texted you the video
that I put up on Twitter, and then in the
same breath in this yeah, this one's for Wilcompton, in
the same breath, pick six, And so starting out, I

(01:45:35):
think it was maybe at most seventy percent capacity, and
that's generous. The stadium and the three hundreds was empty.
The club level, it was a hot day. People were
probably inside as well. It's just a bad situation right
now for the Titans. I have done my best to
be a good member of this company and to respect

(01:45:59):
our guests, but the time has come where you have
to set respect and rationale aside and you have to fire.
Brian Callahan. He had now shout out Alex Porter, who
works with us. He found a stat he has the

(01:46:19):
worst win percentage through twenty games in the history of
the NFL. He is now three and seventeen.

Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
Three and eighteen? Is it three and eight Yeah? I
saw this whole thing. It was a Titans account that
said it is kind of on the worst coaching Titans history.
He's three and eighteen and Wisden Hunt was three and twenty.

Speaker 11 (01:46:41):
Yeah, So again, three and eighteen doesn't help him. I'm
not gonna sit here, and yesterday I kind of motherfucked
him on Twitter. I'm sober now, I'm not gonna do that.
But I wrote some things down, starting with just poor
decision making game management. I think the number one thing

(01:47:02):
you can look at is the sixty to two yard
field goal on fourth down that was called for Joey
Slider kick going into half, which I didn't even realize.
I guess it got tipped or blocked, but regardless, the
delay of game penalties, just so many questionable choices in
critical moments that don't pay off.

Speaker 3 (01:47:22):
It is.

Speaker 11 (01:47:23):
It's not all on kylahan On. It's a team sport.
There's so many aspects that go into it. But his
game decision making is at an all time low. I
think it's honestly disrespectful to the Titans fan base. You're
in there, sitting at halftime and you feel like a joke,
being like, I'm wasting my Sunday being here, and I
will continue to waste my Sundays every time because I

(01:47:45):
love being in that stadium. I love the city and
our fan base, our core fan base who actually goes
there to watch the Titans succeed, and not to take
photos for Instagram like we enjoy it yesterday, especially against
a divisional rival home game, and to just get embarrassed.
There was never a moment where the Titans were in it,
not even one. Jonathan Taylor looked really good, Daniel Jones

(01:48:09):
looked very good, very efficient. There's just a lack of progress.
I know there was a ton of expectations that went
into this season, and though we have a lot of
new you know, things going on with players and everything
just surrounding cam Ward, there has to be a moment
where we need there needs to be time allowed to

(01:48:30):
get better. But it's not gonna happen under the helm
of Brian Cayleham. There's also a conversation to be talked
about with Amy Adams I'm going to table that for
another day just because I think we need to stick
with one thing.

Speaker 1 (01:48:42):
You can give us just a sampler size of that.

Speaker 11 (01:48:44):
I just don't know if Amy Adams is fit to
be the owner. I mean, it was handed down to
her from Bud, and everyone loved Bud, and she is
the stepdaughter. But and she's she's made good things, so
to say, for the Titans organization, but at some point,
like it is just if you take away the twenty
nineteen season, in twenty twenty two, those super playoff runs,

(01:49:08):
the Titans have been a miserable franchise for twenty years
and it's just like we got content with like just
having more than eight wins in a season. So yeah,
I mean, I'm not gonna say I was joining in
on the Fire Callahan chance in the stadium, But I'm
also gonna say that I wasn't. But when you have

(01:49:32):
a fan base that's sitting out in the September sun
in Nissan at one pm on a Sunday audibly yelling
fire Callahan, that's something that they need to listen to.
I'm not saying that I wanted to like wake up
this morning and see Callahan fired on Twitter. I mean,
I would have loved it, but I like, maybe there's

(01:49:54):
a couple more things ahead. I'm just we have a
tough road series ahead where you play the Texans and
other back to back divisional rival game. Then we go
to the Cardinals. Uh, come to Brooklyn Ball busting with
the boys. We'll be doing official tailgate with the Titans.
Hopefully we win. Regardless win and lose, we're gonna have
a good time. So come to Brooklyn Ball and then
we go to the Raiders, and then you know who

(01:50:17):
our next home game is?

Speaker 2 (01:50:18):
Who's who? Is the Titans playing the Brooklyn.

Speaker 11 (01:50:20):
Ball Arizona Cardinals, which I don't know if you know
who are Our next home game is after the three
game road shreds. But it's Mike Rabel and the Patriots.
So if you don't think that that Mike Rabel is
gonna get more applause in that stadium than Brian Callahan,
you're not You're not listening. You need to open your eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:50:38):
Okay, So can I can I ask you a question?
For sure? These next three seem very winnable.

Speaker 11 (01:50:46):
Yes, the Texan I mean someone I saw a tweet
and it's the Texans Titans game, and they said they
need to flex this game to four am. So yeah,
it's literally gonna be a ship ball and it'd be
it'd be huge to pick up that. And obviously the Cardinals,
I don't think there's anything special there, but we have
to play some good ball to beat them. The Raiders
kind of sitting that, but I hate the travel, having

(01:51:08):
to go to Arizona, come home, then go to Vegas
come home. It's a lot, like you guys know, just
road games three in a row, long stretch. You're you're
starting to, you know, feel all the hits, and and
then you have Jac Latham and Devandre Sweat, which Tovandre
Sweat you saw at first hand. Him not being there
to help open up for Big Jeff is really hard.

(01:51:29):
Our old line with how Jac, even though you can
have whatever a pin you have on Jac Latham, our
old line looked miserable yesterday and the amount of penalties
it was just embarrassing. It's just like you're just laughing.

Speaker 7 (01:51:42):
You're like this, we average eleven through these first three games.

Speaker 11 (01:51:45):
I mean, it's just like, we gotta figure some stuff out.

Speaker 3 (01:51:48):
So it's not gonna get it. I'll tell you what
it's it's definitely a good thing. I think a road game, stretch, get.

Speaker 1 (01:51:54):
Away get away. Yeah, maybe stay over there in the West.

Speaker 2 (01:51:59):
Yeah, honestly in the West.

Speaker 11 (01:52:01):
All I know is I'm fired up to be able
to just watch football on my couch next Sunday and
not have to coach, just sweat my ass off and
be angry and like yelling at teenagers who were in
Colts fans. A guy behind me, he was, he was
very vocal, and that's us. I tweeted it out. Nashville
is the worst city for a bad football team because

(01:52:22):
it's such an awesome city to come visit. And I've
said this many times, but if you're an away fan,
let's say you're the Colts, just you know, for recency bias,
you and your boys make a three day trip, you
come to Nashville, you hit Broadway Friday, Saturday, have fun.
You get cheap ass tickets going to a Nissan Sunday.
So every game it's like, at one point it felt

(01:52:43):
like you didn't know on a certain call, if you
kind of looked away, you didn't know who is cheering
for who because the noise level, You're like, wait, is
that Titan fans cheering because it's loud and you're like,
oh no, that was actually the Colts fans cheering. And
the guy sitting behind me though, he was really John
and like I'm like sitting there just like breathe man,
like it's all good, like football doesn't even matter, like

(01:53:05):
and I turned on end up talking to him and
it was like his first NFL game ever. He's like
a fifth year old man with his wife, and I
was like, honestly, this is super cool, Like I hope
he like for you guys to be here like enjoying
your first NFL game, like you're getting to whoop of
a rivals ass. Like I ended up. I was like,
you guys want me to take your photo. He's like,
you know what, man, that's really big of you. And
I was like, okay, don't patronize me. But yeah, at

(01:53:27):
the end of the day, I think it's still early
in the season to where there's the expectation. Obviously, the
set solo right now, and camp Ward is a very
young quarterback. He's shown moments of poise. Obviously, the mistake
on the pick six hurt. He had a solid touchdown,
another one to alec A o'mannor who I think he?

(01:53:48):
I mean, I don't even want to go down the
Calvin Ridley wormhole. Paying him ninety million dollars to drop
every single thing that comes its way sucks. I think
a manor will is. I mean, he is our receiver one,
and hopefully we can give him a moment. I think
this is the thing I'll end on. What most Titans
fans are most concerned about is the possibility of spoiling

(01:54:11):
cam Ward's career with us because of bad coaching, bad
decision making, bad ownership. I know, I know, but like
that's what I'm saying, Like I'm I'm It's just I've
had many conversations with many different kind of.

Speaker 7 (01:54:24):
All that they're worried about is we got to eat
him and not like lose him and then we're back
to square one. Yeah, because not only cam but like yesterday,
I'm noticing our draft class, there's like five guys contributing
on the field, so there's a positive there. Like you
have a rookie quarterback, you have a rookie wide receiver

(01:54:45):
who's proven himself. You have a rookie at punt returner
who luckily got some touches at rules. You have a
rookie on the edge, like on the on the defensive side,
like that's a good sign that they're playing Gunner. Helm's
also like a good tights helmet.

Speaker 11 (01:55:01):
Every package, it's figuring out how to not.

Speaker 7 (01:55:05):
Like waste this, like you you're you're getting your guys.
You got good draft picks that are contributing, and it's
you want to see it work on the field, so
like it's, yeah, it's frustrating to see. The one part
that kind of sucked yesterday is we honored the legend
Mike Keith and he got in the ring of fire.

Speaker 11 (01:55:21):
And it did not feel like the stated they didn't
have to have one. They did the Titans legend. It
was the guy who followed up Kevin Maway Titans legend.
I can't even tell you his name. I forgot about it.
And they did it in the beginning of the second
quarter like they had Juvon curse last week, and it's
just like it feels weird, just feels like forced.

Speaker 7 (01:55:40):
And then they do it before it got too bad.

Speaker 11 (01:55:42):
I think I assume they probably tried to give Mike
Keith his moment, but yeah, it sucks because like Mike
Keith is a legend. Thank god, because it's a ballfall
for me at this point, and thank god Mike Keith
is is in Knoxville doing the color commentary.

Speaker 7 (01:55:54):
But that was tough to see it half though, because yeah,
the half the crowd obviously is going to Sessions bathroom
all that. There's a part of you that's like they
might not come back after halftime. Half of them aren't
even watching this moment for Mike Keith, which sucked. Burt
goes up and gets booed like it's rough in there.

Speaker 11 (01:56:14):
And you mentioned at the beginning of it, like you know,
Titians are building the largest public subsidy in the NFL
two point one billion dollars. And outside of like the
fear of losing cam Ward or him like not getting
his moment with us, the fear is also I know
in that organization is if we are in this position
when we go into that brand new Sparkling stadium, people

(01:56:35):
are gonna be furious, and it's like, we just got
to get a little momentum.

Speaker 7 (01:56:40):
So you have talent, like like I just said, you
have rookies that are already contributing.

Speaker 5 (01:56:47):
There's something there.

Speaker 3 (01:56:48):
By Jackie Boy, Yeah, why don't we take the thought
of the fire, Cally and you just put it on
the shelf.

Speaker 2 (01:56:54):
Let's get on the road. Look, I'm still on the road,
and see what happened. I agree.

Speaker 11 (01:56:58):
I'm saying fire, Kalahan, Like in a level headed atmosphere.
If we come back from that road stretch and we're
one and five or whatever, zero to six, and we're
going in to play the Patriots, and the Patriots come
here and they Malik willis us, I'm gonna be. I'm
gonna be way, way, way hotter on this bus and

(01:57:18):
I'm going to be I'm gonna start a GoFundMe to
I don't even know how that's gonna help, but something's
got to get out there. So right now, I'm being
as level headed as possible and I'm not saying fire
his ass right now. But you come back from that
road stretch and it's still like this, I promise you, man,
we might have to do a public sit out of

(01:57:41):
Nissan just to tell them, hey, we mean business. I mean,
I'll be there, but what.

Speaker 3 (01:57:46):
I imagine, no, no, yeah, yeah, We'll give them the
three game. Like I'm not saying fire, I'm saying fire
with the most level head, right, so there'd be more.
So you're saying it emotionally, but you're gonna give them
these three weeks and it'll be Hey, I'm seeing the
board clearly.

Speaker 7 (01:58:01):
If Rabel comes in here and wins and then then
they decide to fire Callahan.

Speaker 5 (01:58:05):
That that'd be poetic circle of moment.

Speaker 2 (01:58:08):
It'd be like.

Speaker 1 (01:58:10):
Should be a J. Brown and John Robinson would.

Speaker 8 (01:58:12):
Be so ah.

Speaker 11 (01:58:15):
So we'll see. Man, it's always tighten up though. Keep
the faith, guys, we have to have You can't do that.

Speaker 8 (01:58:24):
You have to.

Speaker 11 (01:58:25):
It's bigger than it's bigger than an owner. It's it's
the shield, It's it's the Titans. Man. We're fortunate that
twenty five years ago we got a team from Houston
to come to the great state of Tennessee in the
heart of where the capital lives, in Nashville, Tennessee. And
we cannot get people an excuse to think for even

(01:58:46):
a moment that that was a mistake bringing the team
to Nashville, because Nashville is an amazing place to be.
But the only thing that Callahans have contributed to the
Tennessee Titans is Big Bertha, and that is it.

Speaker 2 (01:58:58):
Big Birthday is night.

Speaker 11 (01:58:59):
That's a nice And trust me, when they fire Callahan,
they better load the gun with one bullet and line
him and his dad up because they're both gone. Because
our O line is embarrassing. And that's that's all I
have to say. Tighten up, baby, tighten up.

Speaker 1 (01:59:19):
I don't even know what to do with Jack Fann.
Give me just a few things. That why Titan fan
Bay should be like happy because.

Speaker 11 (01:59:28):
Because we have a rookie quarterback, that one is a leader.
He's composed and in a moment to where all eyes
are looking at him and everybody wants to see it
just tank and fail more. He is just playing ball
and he wants to so I think cam Ward is
is the core value of that. And then I think
Garrett said at first too, not just cam Ward, Like

(01:59:50):
we have really like a great rookie draft class that
is showing promise on the field, and if we can
just get some other things surrounded by them and clean
up penalties and bad coaching decisions, like you know, we're
just a few games away from having something to believe
in a game. And the fucking AFC South is I mean,

(02:00:11):
the Colts are good and the Jags aren't bad either.
But like, also the Texans, they don't look great, but
I think that we're taking a lot of heat off
of them because there's so much national press around number
one draft pick Brian Kylellahan his record. There's just so much.
But I do it like this has been one of
the most successful draft classes we've had in a long time.

(02:00:33):
So like, I can't hate Callahan about that.

Speaker 6 (02:00:36):
I can't.

Speaker 11 (02:00:37):
But I think if there is anything like, yeah, believing
cam Ward, I still do. And I until like he
had that mistake on the pick six. Sure, I said
it before the season camp. Kim Moore's gonna throw a pick.
Kim Moore's gonna throw two picks. I mean everyone will inevitably,
so like, unfortunately the first one is a pick sick
at the beginning of the game, kills all momentum. But yeah,

(02:00:58):
we gotta just we gotta Kim hurt and not be
I mean, Joey sli is our leading scorer, our kicker,
and I really wish he had drilled that sixty two
yarder because he he has that in his bag.

Speaker 1 (02:01:10):
But it looks like fucking yeah, yeah, it's tough out there,
huh yeah.

Speaker 11 (02:01:16):
But I mean I don't want to be spoon fed
fucking championships. We have character here in Nashville because we've
we've hurt, and we've cut our teeth with horrible losses,
our whole lives.

Speaker 2 (02:01:27):
Good news.

Speaker 1 (02:01:28):
Twelve years ago we went two and fourteen, three and thirteen, yep,
and then it rattled off a few nine and seven
Seasons's twelve more. We can fucking we can do this.

Speaker 7 (02:01:38):
Yeah, it's there, dude, I mean it's this week is
not a good example for that, but the first two games,
the first half, like we're in there, even the Broncos
game problems, Like, you're in there.

Speaker 1 (02:01:50):
You can win that game, buddy, if you guys just
get rid of the penalties. I know it's a that's
a ridiculous statement coming from me, but.

Speaker 11 (02:01:56):
It's like, sweet yesterday, uh is one I responded to No.
I was like, way, yeah, I was firing off. I said,
way too many penalties. Need your expertise, tailor.

Speaker 1 (02:02:10):
Yeah, And I think I did respond to ID this
is this is too much even for me, because it
is I watched pretty.

Speaker 2 (02:02:16):
Much that game.

Speaker 11 (02:02:18):
Yeah, hey, good on you. And Taylor gave me a
call yesterday and I missed it and check and I
just look at Taylor want miss call, and I go
fuck and Taylor had some Really it was it was
a great little seven minute convo, inspiring and you know,
it was just nice to get that shower and just
be like, oh, man, I can breathe.

Speaker 1 (02:02:37):
When I got up in the morning on Sunday and
I popped on the old bird and I saw you
screaming at Colts fans.

Speaker 2 (02:02:43):
Today a bud light in hand.

Speaker 11 (02:02:45):
Shut up, bud light.

Speaker 1 (02:02:46):
And then I watched a pick six in the VideA
Jack might not show up tomorrow out of the stadium
being like fuck this fuck Cali.

Speaker 11 (02:02:58):
I'm like, oh my god, the only thing that really
kept me in it. And unfortunately Will at your costs,
I was like, man, at least Will is getting his
head shaved today.

Speaker 2 (02:03:09):
I did wake up.

Speaker 1 (02:03:10):
I woke up with the spring of my step this
morning knowing that Will was getting his haircut.

Speaker 11 (02:03:13):
First meet, I was like, a Cheff was one of
our new guys. He said, he was like, dude, I like,
I just didn't even feel anything, Like I don't feel
He's like, is it bad that I'm just not feeling
anything about the Titans, like being bad and I'm like, no,
I feel like that's like a lot of people, it's
just kind of the standard right now.

Speaker 1 (02:03:29):
It goes back to the standard we talked about with Clemson,
Like you fire Dabo, You're gonna go back to what
you were before.

Speaker 11 (02:03:35):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (02:03:36):
The good thing for the Titans is there there is
no standard right now. No, you have no standard. It hurts,
but it also kind of helps.

Speaker 2 (02:03:42):
Yeah, I agree, So scary team, got nothing to lose.
Amen going into Houston, amal animal.

Speaker 3 (02:03:51):
They might have some trouble with that D line from Houston,
for sure, got slow down. This is an undergame, an undergame, CJ.

Speaker 1 (02:04:00):
He's having a tough one out there right now.

Speaker 7 (02:04:02):
What suck to hear was that colds wide receiver be
like we walked on the field and saw that they
just didn't even want it.

Speaker 2 (02:04:07):
Oh, like.

Speaker 1 (02:04:10):
That is that is heartbreaking?

Speaker 11 (02:04:13):
Yeah, Jones is taking him apart.

Speaker 1 (02:04:16):
Jambs might be your MVP.

Speaker 2 (02:04:18):
He looks he might be your MVP. Who knows. Hey,
he does look good, it feels good.

Speaker 7 (02:04:23):
It is in a good spot for himself.

Speaker 3 (02:04:24):
And I loved hearing uh. I think it was Saquan
before the weekend. He was like, man, there is seeing
how everything went down with him in New York. There's
nobody I'm rooting for harder to have success based on
how good of like, you know, a dude, a worker
of everything Daniel Jones is. So it is really cool
to see him kind of balling out, especially when they
made that switch and the whole world was on fire
about giving up on Anthony Richardson and he's going out

(02:04:47):
there and proving those decision makers right.

Speaker 1 (02:04:50):
Saved a lot of people's jobs. Yeah, and I also
love was Itsassa's daughter on the field taking notes the
whole time, has a ear piece in listening to play call,
Like who knows what she's actually doing, but the intentional,
being intentional about her father's team is very very cool
to me. I love it. Culture Spicy and the Wars

(02:05:13):
of will compon Spicy.

Speaker 2 (02:05:15):
Spicy Keith the Faith, Jaguars.

Speaker 1 (02:05:19):
Jaguars, the Culture went in the division.

Speaker 7 (02:05:23):
There, man, I'm just I mean, in the AFC, there
got to be one of the best three teams.

Speaker 11 (02:05:28):
Damn breaking news. I mean you'll hear this tomorrow, but
Ceede Lamb, this is today.

Speaker 2 (02:05:33):
This is the recap show.

Speaker 11 (02:05:35):
Oh yeah, so perfect. Ceedee Lamb will likely miss four
to six weeks diagnosed with a high ankles. Buddy, that
is the worst news for the especially after the Cowboys
losing the Bears yesterday.

Speaker 1 (02:05:45):
One CD went down. It was their offense was done.

Speaker 8 (02:05:48):
They handled them.

Speaker 11 (02:05:49):
It wasn't fun to watch. Yes, it was like the
Chiefs game. It's after the game, you're just like man.

Speaker 8 (02:05:55):
On a movie.

Speaker 2 (02:05:56):
So you were gone.

Speaker 3 (02:05:57):
Obviously you're watching Titans often and so you're in like
your own little hell. But there were some moments yesterday
in the afternoon. It's like the blocked kicks that were
getting taken back the Jets and Baker goes on a
game winning drive. Again, you think the Jets are about
to win the game because they blocked that kick. Oh,
I love the Eagles snuck it out of Minnesota, Carson
Wentz looking good. Yeah, the Eagles Rams game at the end.

(02:06:21):
Not only that, but the entire gambling world that had
the Rams like plus two and a half, plus three
and a half and then it gets blocked and taken back.

Speaker 1 (02:06:27):
I was hoping Geordie Davis would go down. I'm like,
just let yeah fall fall, fall fall, Because Buddy, I
I was one of those gamblers that had them, had
a bag on them too.

Speaker 7 (02:06:36):
After the falcons'll watch that at all.

Speaker 2 (02:06:38):
I was just seeing the highlights. I was just because
again it's like Falcons Panthers.

Speaker 3 (02:06:42):
Even when I saw them down, I'm like, Oh, they'll
probably figure it out and turn it around them not
losing thirty to nothing against the Panthers.

Speaker 1 (02:06:49):
Yeah, let's listen. Great reaction show once again. If you
stick with this this long, you just hashjaged here talk
towards the end of the weekend. Will all questions, comments, concerns, everything,
we will, We will hit them. Appreciate you guys. Michigan, Michigan,
Michigan bust and Bowl champions feels good, feels good, feels

(02:07:10):
like ninety seven all over again. Dune it, dun it.

Speaker 2 (02:07:16):
What are you asking? What's the question? Feels like this
team feels like ninety seven steam for Michigan.

Speaker 1 (02:07:22):
I don't want to ask that question because you can
get around that. Who won the national championship in ninety
ninety se Michigan Wolverines won the National Big Hugs, tiny cases.
We'll see you guys tomorrow.

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