Zach Top’s New Single ‘Good Times & Tan Lines’ + Taylor Lewan Reacts To First Pitch Fiasco | Bussin' - Bussin' With The Boys

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to another episode of Bustle with the Boys. This
episode three thirty two. My name is Will Compton. Alongside
me co hosting as always is Taylor Lewan. This is
the Zachtop episode. Before we jump into the Zachtop episode,
we do about how long was the intro? Mitch about
an hour intro recap on the weekend talking about Taylor's
first pitch er trip to Saint Louis, being at the
UFC breaking down everything. By the way, to all the

(00:22):
dads out there, Happy Father's Day this weekend. Also reminder
first episode of the new for the Dad's podcast hosted
by myself alongside me and that will be Sherman Young.
That drops tomorrow morning. You can buy Father's Day merch
at bwtv dot com. We have hats, we have shirts,
we have everything all around the merchandise to commerce level
at bwtv dot com. If you want to support the boys,

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you want to support your dad and get them a
little gift for Father's Day this weekend, that will all
be on bwtv dot com. We will get into the intro,
we'll get into zach Top. This was an incredible interview.
You listen to Zachtops music. You're gonna understand the personality
behind the music, and he is one of the boys.
The point to where we were talking about dry helping
in high school. It's a great interview, it's a great conversation.
You guys are gonna gonna enjoy it. And no matter

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Speaker 2 (01:28):
All right, We're good.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
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It were here just drinking beer, making baby, I'm hanging
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Speaker 4 (02:08):
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Speaker 1 (03:33):
My my parlay hit.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
Yeah, UFC parlay hits.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
The drought is over.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
The drought is over for you.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the UFC. My drought is over because
it's been.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
A while, right, you were on a tough little streak there, Hockey.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
The first parlay I've won, I think, But I think
I was to say this year, but if I won't
one to march madness, then got that one. I haven't
put too many together, however, I've been very gun shy
because of my luck. And yeah, Joe Pifer, Kayla Harrison

(04:13):
and Morob.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Morob By the way I put it on absolute display.
Cash the minute that fight ended, will looks me in
the eyes. That's a champion for a very long time.
But then, you know they say about parlays when you're
a when you're in a slump.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
What do you do? Just keep swing.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Swinging, keep swinging, Which brings me to my next subject
that everybody in the entire world wants to talk about.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
It's hard to be a guy that refuses to quit.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
It's hard to be a guy that refuses to quit,
and I am now taking that on for myself.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
For what moment of silence, your debacle embarrassing.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
My athletic career. It officially ended on Thursday.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Thank you, thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
Let's talk about it.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Boys. So we fly to Saint Louis on Thursday. Vibes
are so high. We're going to the Cardinal Game.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
Than after that we're headed over to First Form. I'm
gonna check out everything all over the place. Form Energy
is coming out. We're a part of this massive thing
where Anheuser Busch, Dana White First Form are coming together
as three as a three headed monster fueled by bustling
with the boys to promote and just kick down the
door of energy.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Drinks on energy.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Here's what they're doing, Anne Isser Busch, Dana White, First Form.
They're making a baby, and they're making us the godparents.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
We're the god parents. We're the god parents right of
this baby of Format.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
For some reason, if Dana White First Form in one
hundred and sixty five year organization that's in the episode
Staple as an Episoute Staple of America goes down, then
we take over. Yeah, we had to get that in
writing first, but right now it's more of a figurative deal.
So the vibes are super high. We get we land
in Saint Louis. I'm actually already a little impressed because

(05:51):
I don't know what to expect to hear the way
we'll talks about Bontera. I know it's forty five minutes away,
but I'm just thinking to myself, the state of Missouri
showed me, and guess what they showed me.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
They showed out.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
They showed out.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Pull up, Chrissy.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Baby's in the car. He's got himself a nice, all
blacked out vehicle for us. We walk in this first
form stuff everywhere and we're talking about the first pitch
that's about to take place. There's a Garrett was with us.
He's doing the vlog. I'm telling him, buddy, when I was,
you know, eleven, twelve years old, and I used to
step on the mountain. Literally I was throwing fucking heat.
I threw heat back in the day, million dollar arm,
five cent head. That's a bull Durham reference. If you

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guys don't know that, and I would literally I threw
a no hit.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Catch me up on your baseball career, because I feel
like I was first under the impression that you were
twelve and getting on the mound. The impression I had
of you playing baseball was you didn't like baseball. When
you got hit, you quit.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
You were scared of those different things.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Yeah, yeah, there there's different things in the field. I
enjoyed the defensive portion of baseball. I did struggle with
the confidence the courage of stepping into a pitch in
the batter's box as a young child, but I did
it as most American young boys did, right. I hit
the t ball early. My father had me out in
the backyard. We would play catch periodically, mostly on the

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weekdays when he got off of work, catch a nice
little meal, and then go outside. I was always a
fast young lad. Then I realized my speed would translate
into the outfield. Then I figured out I'm told and
the rest of these kids. My dad puts me on
the mount, had a little whip, had a little zip
in my arm, and so as I get older and older,
I played from five to eleven or twelve, I can't remember.
I ended twelve or twelve was my last season? Was

(07:24):
on a Triple A baseball team. Triple A Travel Arizona
Baseball team, Silverhawks. We were fucking awful, but your boy
was on that team. We traveled all over the place
and did that. There was a thing that took place,
like a little league. They brought all the teams from
Arizona or like you know, it's like an invite thing.
You get invited and all these kids. They have a

(07:46):
home on Derby, fastest pitch, all these things. I ran
the bases and I have a plaque that I helped
my dad brings to the dad Combine that says Taro
La one fastest twelve year old baseball player in the
state of Arizona.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
So I won that. I won that.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
So baseball was was a part of my life.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
I had a Yankees maw was there.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Like you qualify and you keep going to state and
then you win at running the bases or something.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
No, this is in high school. This is like we
all it's it's not as cool as the plaquet says,
like you kind of got there. Every year we gave
every team, Every team gave, like put out their fastest player,
and I just happened to be the fastest player of
all the team's players. Does that make sense? Yeah, So
twelve hits puberty hits, I start becoming a skid and
running dirt bikes. I'm smoking half smoked cigarettes out of

(08:33):
a target astray, and then you know, I'm so on
and so forth and a fighting football. That was kind
of the last time I played baseball. But always enjoyed ketch,
always enjoyed ripping it up. I think I've played catch
with probably all of you at some point in our
lives and our time to be together. So when we
go to this Cardinal game, I'm fired up. We threw
the pitch at the sounds. I was nervous about that,
just kind of tossed it in there.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Whatever.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
This time, I'm thinking, I'm gonna fucking I'm gonna house
this thing in here, and it might go I'm a
million different directions, but we're at the end of the day,
We're we go.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Hey, that was a fast pitch.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, that was my thought processing the entire pregame was like,
I'm just gonna throw it as hard as I can, right,
I don't care if I missed the shrike zone. I'm
just gonna throw it as hard as I can and
we're gonna see what happens.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
Yeah, So we get to the Cardinals stadium. It's incredible.
I mean they have a little like area all the
people where all the people hang out, where there's really
a fan duel sports book. Then there's like a first
form banner, and then the stadium on the in the
center field just says Budweiser, like we're literally sitting here
being like this is We're home. We're home, We're home.

(09:36):
This is amazing. This is everything bustled with the boys
is backed by It is a part of that that
we believe in.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Everything's going out away.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
The people were great. Shout out Adam Freudal the entire
team at Saint Louis Cardinals that was kind of hosting
a shot at the boy Kyle who's ripping with Chris Yeah,
uh yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
We had a good We had a good Saint Louis squad.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
We had a great Saint Louis squad. And who was
the who is the baseball player that you knew that
you got tickets for Shane's thing?

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Lars?

Speaker 4 (10:01):
So we see Lars Lars as a homie. He's hitting
there like this is me dudee MLB cat cut off shirt.
I talk to the side, just kind of hanging out
being a fan of us. I'm thinking this, bro. Bro,
you're a baseball player, like this is You're.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
A totally different world than us, Bro.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
But you're on a you're in a major League baseball team,
which is one of the hardest. If you look at
the path of getting to a professional sport, Baseball could argue,
we believe the hardest. Maybe hockey as well. I'm sure
soccer has theirs. I don't know a lot about soccer.
We go in and we see the whole that they're
hitting process, their hitting meeting.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, Lars, Like, do you guys want to come to
the hitting meeting? Yeah, yeah, we're allowed to.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
And we sit there and we're like, yo, we're watching
these guys go over the pitcher. When he has the
glove towards like more his belly button, it's going to
be like a change up when it's a little bit higher,
if that's a fastball.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Or something else.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Something, if somebody's on second base, if you can get
tipped off on this, you'll you'll do.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
We don't want to give up the signs. Well, you know,
you're right, you know what, right, Yeah, they put their
hand out to the right. I'm just saying, there's just a.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Lot more that goes into the detail of baseball right
than I realized. It's like, I assume they probably like
watch film and stuff, but not to the level of
detail that they're sitting there talking.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
And if you're playing as many games in baseball as
you do a year, I don't know how much time
they're sitting there, you know, doing the recovery process, hitting
the gym, like watching the film. I as a dumb
football player, I think these boys just go out and
play god given as I assume a lot of people
who watch football are like these boys are show up
on Sunday Like what a life they have? Right, So
is very cool to see behind the curtain. Poso, I

(11:24):
believe I'm saying his name wrong. I almost can almost
guarantee you I'm saying his name wrong. Is a catcher
for the for the Cardinals. He's hitting there, Boy's got
a fucking trunk on him. Let's go and turn that off.
Boy's got an absolute trunk on him. As he's doing
some VP, he walks out and puts his bat down
and I go to grab the bat. But a second,
I'm like, I know these boys are stitious, like a
different level of stitious. So I don't touch the bat.

(11:45):
Poso walks back up and go, hey, I was about
to touch your bat, but I didn't want to, and he
gets very serious faced with me.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
He's like, yeah, don't do that.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
I know how superstitious are you? Go is put it
this way. I'm wearing the same pair of undoor of
worn the whole entire season, since game one, since game one,
So these guys, these guys.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Are fucking about it. We go outside. I asked for
a's in the same stall. He only ships in one stall.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yep, period, same yes, same shower slot, sandstall.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
Oh that's kind of what it looks like. Actually it's
a way cooler version.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
So get out to the field. He has the field.
We're playing a little catch.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
We're not allowed to go on the grass yet because
the field's crew they got their whole little deal too,
And we're just kind of tossing the ball back and forth.
No gloves, we can't throw it hard, and we're throwing.
And then all of a sudden, we get up there.
I think we're throwing the first pitch out. Turns out
we're throwing like the fifth and sixth pitch out.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
So kids go out these two kids. They go out first, rockets.
Those things right down the middle there are beautiful for
It was cool too, because you know, like the kids
are just elated to be there, and the rip.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
One from the mound. We were very no I know,
but I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
They're like, young young lads.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Just oh my gosh, what is this? Right?

Speaker 4 (12:52):
You know, someday I'm gonna be back up the type
of moment.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
That's the moment. They're watching Fields.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Of Dreams right now, getting motivated even more about baseball.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
And we're sitting there and as we're like kind of
waiting to get the announcers calling up the next two people,
they're like, hey, who wants to go first? We're kind of
look at each other. I'll go first. Yeah, I am
zero percent worried about this, zero percent worried about stepping
on the mound. We go up there, they call our names.
You know, we're doing Will's Pose the whole time, stay
in character. Walk up there. I don't know who the

(13:19):
guy catching the ball is. I don't know his last name,
but I look at him and I say to him, Hey,
just so you know, I'm for the ball. Is how
hard as I fucking can I say that to him,
and he goes okay, like does like, could not have
given less of a fuck about what I just said
to him, could not have cared any anymore or any less.

(13:39):
I get up to the mound. I stand up there.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
I'm so confident.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
I feel so good about this. I think I'm about
to catch a contract. And I do my little little
league as much as I remember wind up and the pitch,
and as the ball is leaving my hand, bro I
know this is not fucking good.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
This is not good.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
It I don't know if it slipped, what it was.
The trajectory of the ball obviously did not go the
way we wanted. It was horrendous. It was fucking terrible.
I'm so mad at myself. I'm not just mad at
myself for me and my athletic ability now being in
question throughout the entire world. I'm sorry the offensive lineman
out there who our whole lives. Hey, we've been the

(14:23):
chubby kid. Go in the corner. Hey you're in a block.
Don't worry, it's really cool. You're the backbone of the
football team. They tell you all these little phrases make
you feel better, and you just want to show everybody, listen, Bro,
I am a fucking I'm really, I truly am an athlete.
You just don't get it, and I'll figure it out eventually.
I had every offensive line. Every chubby kid was on
my back. Maybe that's why I failed, but every chubby

(14:45):
kid figuratively was on my back as I threw that
ball and I shit the bed, shit the bed, taught
myself ten push ups.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
You proved you're a great offensive lineman.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Bro, you proved your And I was like, yeah, we
had a good time with it. Will had a nice
little conversation in the car with me. The boys obviously
did the thing. I see Brad Lebron, who's whatever our boys?
If you remember the wrist stream he was a part of.
He's the autistic kid that's out in the corner. He
I walk in, he WAPs up Will.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
The immediate thing.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
The first thing he says is that was fucking awful, Taylor,
Like he said, true, he was dog shit. He was
that was dog shit. So we got to deal with
this the rest of the weekend. By the way, Will
your pitch, no one will ever talk about how great
that was.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Yeah, it goes unknown man.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
After following up on uh, what you threw. But here's
what I want to show you. See how that I
get that arm back? How I whipped that arm back.
I pull it through.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Can you go back to Tailor's.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
See how yours? You kind of keep it up in
front of you. Your entire body is going that way.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Your stiff is a board. You can't get your body around.
You got to get your hips around.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
Yeah, my tea spun.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah, you gotta get the tea spy mobility. But it's
like you're standing up on the mountain. I was before
Garrett's like, are you nervous? I was like, oh, not really,
But internally, you're starting to walk out there and you feel,
you know, you have all these people watching you, and
you're just standing on the mountain. You feel like you're
standing on an island by yourself, and everybody's far away
from you. They can't they can't engage with you whatsoever,

(16:15):
and it's just you and the catcher. And in those
moments is when the lights come on and you either
put on a show or you fold. And yeah, I
think that was like an eighty four mile hour sinker
that I seedd in there, and it felt good because
I saw what happened with Taylor right before when even like,

(16:37):
I wasn't as nervous when you threw that pitch. But
also I'm like, yeah, I guess anything can happen out here,
So it kind of sets in. The pressure sets in
a little bit more so I felt like I was
carrying a lot of pressure. I'm just reminding myself, grip
and rip, grip and rip. Oh boy, you got this,
and you know, the rest kind of takes care of it. Well,
one little detail before you guys hit them out, said

(16:58):
one detail before y'all hit the mount.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
I hate that that was you before.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
But that's that's kind of my mentality going into this
thing when I zoom out and think about it, like
that is what I think about those moments, very high
pressure and this is what it meant for everybody. Yeah,
not meant for everybody. This is where the men separate
from the boys. That's what I would, honestly like, that's
me objectively saying that if you were no part of
this conversation, I wish you weren't, But I hate that.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
You were right before me. Yeah you're you're.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
Yeah, you hate for me that I have to be
on the other side of being a boy instead of
a man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, what we're gonna say?

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Gee will it did sneak in right before you all
went out there that this was his third time throwing
out the first pitch, my.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Third time, Yeah, experience a long way.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, that was technically my second throw because the second
one I did, my mom threw it, But it was
my third time being out there, kind of feeling the noise,
feeling the pressure.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
So the night before I.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Was doing some mental you know, just visioning and visioning
what this can look like and feel like.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
I'd like to say, yeah, in the world I grew
up in my mom, you did raining for a little
bit professionally, and when you get these horses ready to
go and show at these big events, the fraturity is
the biggest. You would go to a regular spot, you
would and buy a bunch of friends over, get them
really rowdy and put up banners so the horse can
kind of feel what it's like to be in that environment.

(18:16):
I guess I didn't do that for my own horse,
my internal horse.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Wednesday night, I was doing breath work. I was envisioning
with the hops would smell like around me being in
Saint Louis, Missouri, the arch behind me, the crowd, people
feeling distant, not close enough, and you just got to
take in the dirt underneath your feet, the grass surrounding
around you, that perfect grass that they wouldn't let a
step on. You got to feel the ball in your hands,
and you just gotta send it. You got to grip
and rip.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
Yeah, well he's doing that. Wednesday night, I'm figuratively out
in the bar, dooning, doing whatever, not watching film. I'm
out here thinking I'm on ball tomorrow, don't matter, and
not realizing that the preparation that takes place before the
pitch is it truly makes the pitch what it is.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
When people say, Will that was a great first pitch,
in my mind, I'm thinking I've already thrown that pitch
a thousand times.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Right, Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
Yeah, And that's that's the mentality I need to take
on at this moment in time, right now. I need
to be better. You'll get redemption, There's no doubt about it.
I've already had a should I say, the MLB team,
it's already reached out.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Keep the tights of the best. We don't know exactly
what we're doing.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
We don't know exactly what we're doing, but we have
had multiple teams reach out about me having my redemption.
I want to say thank you to those teams, and
at a later date we will give out those teams names.
Thank you so much for giving me the opportunity to
make this right.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
And no matter what, that final boss has got to
be at Busch Stadium.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
Yes, there's no doubt about it. There's no doubt.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
You got to go back to that fear.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
Here's what sucks you throw that pitch. Your boy's chirpye.
It is you having fun. We're having a good time.
The Internet gets on you and you're like, okay, this
is great, and we all know in the game of
the internet, eventually there'll be a new news story like
interestingly enough, Elon Musk and Trump start going at it.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
You take over there later. I am now that. Yeah,
So is that a deep state move? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
It's not for me to say. It's not for me exactly.
Maybe the one's got a guy a pedophile. The other
one's not really stand hoole, it's a it's a weird deal.
All of a sudden, my pitch comes out. Yeah, and
I did think that ball was a little slippery.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
When they hand it to me.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
For algorithm's sake, maybe Elon tapped in. We need a
distraction all this other stuff is going on. Yeah, sometimes
gonna keep putting this in front of everybody's eyes.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Yeah, shout out. But yeah, man, you you you feel it.
You have the internet do what it's doing, and you think,
all right, we're good. But I didn't realize, like people say,
that was a lot like fifty cents of pitch.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
True.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
Absolutely, the trajectory of the ball was very Swhere. Here's
a difference between me and fifty cent. One of us
hasn't been shot nine times, and one of us wasn't
a three time pro bowler football player. Right, So it's
okay if the guy who got shot nine times and
became super famous for rapping and started a ding a
vibin water company, help.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
It's okay.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
Though if he didn't the athlete who's expected to do
athletic things steps on the mound and does the same
exact thing, we got a fucking problem. Okay, Because I
get to first form, I'm meeting sal I mean, Andy,
the boys like the vibes are high, but you can
just feel there's just some little something in the air.

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And Sal makes a comment about my pitch, which I
which I love. I love the chrip or back and forth.
He had a couple of bad takes him self. We're
going we're having a good time. Later, new group of
people makes another comment about the ball thing. Great fun,
We're having a good time, right, It's all good. This
is an amazing facility. Look at how much you've built.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
You're the man.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
Blah blah blah. Sal is an unbelievable ude. Does it
a third time. He does it a third time. I go, hey, listen,
we're sitting with their sauna and their little recovery area
as well. He says something about the ball again, go
go get a ball, just pointed at some random guy.
I had no idea, who hey get it? Can you
get a ball on a glove? And I made Sal
go out and catch with me. And in the first
ball I threw, he's like, oh, okay, you know how

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to throw a baseball. And that is the problem, right,
because there's a lot of people who still think I
dated Jeffree Starr and at the end, and what hurts
more than that is there's gonna be a lot of
people in twenty years. I think Taylor Lawan can't throw
a baseball. I'm gonna get my redemption. When I get
my redemption, great, not everybody's gonna see it, and that's
all right.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
I have to come to terms with that.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
Right Taylor failed for a ped Mike Rabel set me down.
He goes, listen, here's the deal. Fifty percent believe you,
fifty percent are That's the world I have to live
in with this now.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
I think a question of the internet is people are wondering.
People are wondering if you are actually left handed, just
based on your form and the way you kind of throw.
At times, it does look awkward when you throw something.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
Yeah, at times it does. And I got a stiff shoulder.
I got a tight little shoulder. I dissocated this elbow
in twenty twelve, So there's there's some mechanical things going
on with the left side of my body that's not great.
That being said, I can throw a ball. Yes, I
am left handed.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
There are also people on the internet wondering if this
was a bit and you were faking it.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
No.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
Unfortunately, Dereck Henry texting me and Will he was pressing hard.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
I know this is fake.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Because Derek and I have played catch before. Derek and
I have spent a lot of years together. In a
lot of years, there's been a ball around. What are
you doing with your boy? Sometimes with the ball around,
you just pick it up, toss what we're having A
conversation that has happened with me and Derek countless times,
and Derek would not let it go that that was
a bit he wanted to believe in me so bad

(23:36):
that he could not come to terms with the fact
that I fucked up throwing a baseball.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Great friend, How do people explain to their kids what
they witnessed on Thursday?

Speaker 4 (23:48):
I think this is better for people to explain to
their kids. I think it's better for guys who don't
play sports anymore live the glory days in high school,
to say there and show their kids, this is a
professional athlete. I can throw a ball better them. For
anybody who's looking out there, who has a young boy,
has a young daughter that's into baseball, this is a

(24:09):
big opportunity for you to get some street credit. I
suggest you take them out go have a catch today.
The problem is explain this to my kids that is
going to be the problem.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
There's no follow up questions.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
So and I'll get to that fallow question from when
I'm done answering this. One Tuesday, I'm outside of my
kids playing catch.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Tell hey, get your elbowled up a little bit.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
No, no, no, don't undertoss it, but you put your daddy regular.
I want to go inside you. We can go inside
when you hit me in the chest five times and
you catch.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
It five times.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
Once you do that, we can go inside. I'm having
that conversation. God forbid somebody shows that to my kids. Okay,
respects gone. Anytime we want to go out and play ball,
they'll just go all right, dad, Yeah, do you want
some pointers yourself? Like, That's what I'm gonna dealing with
with Win Rebel the one and Willow Rosela one. Those
poor kids have no idea how much they're father.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Has let down their family.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
All right, let's not forget about the Four Nations Tournament
when American and Canada going at it. Those you were
watching for the first time, maybe here to see z
that top might think, Taylor, what is Canada matter?

Speaker 3 (25:14):
My wife's from Canada.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
They do a softball league every single year. Pat Gallagher,
he watches. He's a sweet man, been farming his whole life,
picking peaches. What am I going to say to him
when I see him in July? Huh, hey, sorry, you've
been asked me maybe be a part of your baseball
team for four separate years.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
I'm sure that invite's gone. All right?

Speaker 4 (25:36):
How do I walk around the town of Colonna and
not get laughed at, giggled at, tarred and feathered, have
a cabbage thrown at me? Walked into UFC in Newark,
some guy hit me with, oh wait you go, oh yeah, buddy,
have me his two as years?

Speaker 3 (25:51):
How about that pitch? Though?

Speaker 4 (25:53):
You're fucking right?

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Donald Trump shakes my hand and then looks at Taylor
and then walks past him, walk past so disappointed.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
I oh, mister president, remember the podcast? He goes, remember
that throw and kept going. Dj T said it looked
at me, stoffed, Hey, as you call yourself an American?
I thought you were a big strong man. Looks like
you're a little boy. Looks like you're a little boy.
Can't throw a ball, are you?

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (26:19):
And then you went like this and it's figuratively my chestimator.
You're not good enough. And he walked away. Yeah, that's
what my life is now. Boys, that's what my life
is now. Okay, So while you guys, while you're hanging
your pillows at nights, remember at least you're not me, okay,

(26:40):
because I'm in hell and there's.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Only one thing I can do. Pick up a ball
and start throwing. All right, Internet.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
Wants to be mean good, I'll pick up the ball
and I'll start throwing, all right. My daughter's question, pick
up the ball.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
And start throwing. That's what this is.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Go ahead, will So if I can remember when you're
in these teaching moments with your daughters or anybody out
there having a teaching moment with their kids versus having
a moment of being like I can throw a ball
better than him, what angle should they take, Hey, he
can't throw a ball, and he's just got to keep
working and keep practicing and sometimes it's just going to happen.

(27:24):
Or do they have the approach of, Hey, no, he
actually can't throw a ball. The moment was just way
too big, And here's how we're going to work on
our mentality to kind of hone in all the pressure
out of those two options.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
I don't know if I feel.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
So you're talking about if somebody else is in my situation,
So somebody's talking about like.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Is it essentially you can't throw a baseball or the
moment was way too big and you got to work
on it. You're either working on the skill of throwing
or you're working on the mental of being like, hey,
your body knows what to do. Let's let's get your
mind out of the way of it.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
And you're talking to me, You're like, oh, this is
how I approach coaching, Taylor.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
No, I'm asking, like, how can people use it as
a teaching tool for their Like how would you talk
to your daughters about it? Like is it hey, daddy
can't throw a baseball or no, daddy shriveled under the light.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
I would.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
I would if my kids were in this situation and
I was talking to my kids, I would say, listen,
this is what happens when you don't prepare. This is
what happens when you think you're good enough without putting
in the work. You put in the work, you get
better results.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
All Right.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
Preparation is the key.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
All Right.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
Losers do a little bit of work and expect to win,
while winners do all the work they possibly can, and
still think they're gonna lose. Let's be fucking winners. That's
what I would tell my kids.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Daddy was a loser. On Daddy was a fucking loser.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
By the way, call my wife after the next day,
we're talking about it. I don't realize the kids are
in the car, and I said, fucking oh ah, right here,
I heard what and go dad, fucking's a bad word.
Can't say fucking.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yeah, you're right, sweat.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Just when you think you can't get me lower rights,
just when you think you hit ground zero, that's when
you gotta get it. There's a little more dirt.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
That's when you got to get off the phone and
flip that on tailing, like, hey, you've got to let
me know, yea, if I'm on speaker.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Can I be one hundred percent honest? I knew they
were in the car. I forgot they were in the car,
and I still did it. I start telling a story
seat the e brain kicks out. All of a sudden,
all the nasty comments are in my head, rewrites my
brain men and blacks me. And now all of a sudden,
I'm saying fucking in front of my kids.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
You're in a mental storm. Right now, we're in a storm.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
Be like the buffalo. I will be a buffalo in
the storm.

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Speaker 4 (30:20):
Weekend overall was great, great weekend.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
It was one for the books. I know we said
that a lot, but it was truly. Taylor and I
are going home after our flight yesterday and it's like
you go and you go to the card on baseball game,
which was a plus. First form facility, sal and Andy Forcella,
being around that entire culture environment a plus. Going to

(30:43):
Anheuser Busch having our live show who it was like
three thousand people over there to listen to us, talk
to Dana White and Andy Forseella to launch form Energy.
That was an a plus. The tours, getting to drink
the beer out of there, the massive tanks, the freshest
year that you will ever taste in your life. A plus.

(31:04):
Get on a plane with Dana to flight to Newark
that night on Friday night, that was an a plus.
The night getting our hotel that was an f That
was an absolute.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
That was a that's an expelsion from school.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
But going to the USC, going to USC three sixteen also.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
An A plus, A plus. It was an incredible weekend.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
It was it really, and Will said in the beginning,
we've said this a lot lately, like every trip we've gone,
like Man one for the books, Top five, this and
the other, like the experiences we get to have doing
the show are just getting better and better every single year,
every single month, every single trip. It's just awesome. And
even in situations like the hotel situation, which we'll dive into,

(31:44):
you you get done with that and you're like, let
me zoom out a second. Let me look at this
whole weekend as a whole. That still doesn't even fuck it.
That's that's that's a little flesh throwne that's not doing
nothing to us, because that was a brutal situation. However,
all the things we're able to get done, like going
to bush that's been that's been a business in America
for one hundred and sixty five years, getting able to

(32:06):
sit on those hollowed grounds, which is like the Hogwarts
of fucking beer bro I thought that, I really thought,
like there's gonna be some duys giving out in broomsticks.
That's how like, that's how what Hogwarts esque it was.
And we get there and we do this live show
and we have the powerhouse of Dana White, we have
Andy Forsella who's sitting there who's a powerhouse in himself,

(32:27):
and then this entire backing of all these massive fans
in this facility, and we get to sit here and
have a conversation and they're into it. Yeah, to get
after this energy drink that I am, I have no
doubt is not only a great quality, but is going
to kick down the.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Door of this energy is going to cry fire. It
was raining and we're standing out in the rain embracing
the suck.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
Yeah, and we're dude, just even after, Like we're sitting
after the live show and it's Brendan, the CEO of
ander Bush, it's the Facellas, it's Dana, Me and Will
and the boys, and the conversations that are taking place.
Will is asking great questions like, hey, what was the
headache when he was doing this? Because from the moment
the inception that the thought of hey we should do

(33:11):
an energy drink to an injury drink being launched was
two hundred and seven days, so a lot of different
things had to happen and at a quick pace for
all that to get done. And that ship is fucking badass, man,
get to see the horses.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
I'm a real mid tier like energy drink consumer and
those first warm energy drinks taste incredible. They're so good.
We need to we need to.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Get It's hard to pick. Grape and orange have been
my two favorites right now.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
We need to get a bus and berry.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Yeah, we were pitching them.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
On the time Offer l t O as they said
to an lt O, Yep, well that's uh but dude,
it was awesome, It really was. And then just being
able to like do the taste test. It's Dani's crew,
it's our crew. We're sitting there drinking out of these
giant barrels of beer that are just like as perfect
as it can possibly be. It's do you feel like

(34:04):
frank the taint due as soon as it hits your lips,
You're like.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
God, this is fun because it's what it's like. This
will be the only time you have it where it's unpasteurized.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Is that right?

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Yeah, unpasteurized before it heats up, and then they put
in bottles and cans and everything else.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
And then you think about the process too. It's like
you bottle it whatever it's been pasteurized, and then it
goes in a truck. That truck goes to a place,
it gets hot, then it goes back into a cold.
Then if finally gets the spot it's going to, you
take it out, you bring it home. So there's a
bunch of steps that have to go into before you
drink it. Buddy, we're going to the source and having
these things that we do, this taste tests. Upstairs, they
have this they have this book that is like every

(34:36):
person who's been in this room since like nineteen eighty six,
because this is a new book, has signed. I know
that we've been there, and we take up half a
damn page. Data's thrown out hundreds and we're putting hundreds down.
He's signing it. We're signing it. We're putting that dollar
from Jack whatever, also from us. He takes another hundred
out from Busting with the Boys, we put supplied by Dana,

(34:57):
and it's just like a good time. Everyone's just like
just feeling it. Rush back to the hotel, Go get
on this insane plane, have amazing conversation, just a feast.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
Some people were on that plane. Yeah, honestly, just to
give contexts, Will Taylor and Garrett went on Danis PJ.
There was not enough room. I willingly stayed back because
I'm a team player, but willingly stayed back. And in
the moment, you're like, oh man, it'd be sweet to

(35:29):
be on the PJ. Garrett send me photos Like, hey,
I'm not trying to be a dick right now, but
I have.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
To show this photo.

Speaker 5 (35:35):
It's a full plate of stakes and all the fixings,
and so in my head I'm like, I mean, that sucks.
I've got to have some cool experiences, so I'm not mad.
But then Garrett calls me at like two am, or
actually I call him, and he's like, this night turned
into absolute hell. He's like, we should have never left
Saint Louis. The hotel bookings, I guess something happened. The
reservations get lost. The boys are up for two hours

(35:56):
trying to find any hotel in Jersey to stay at.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
So I think we both you know, we have smels
along the way.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Yeah, it's kind of like our first one, because you
go from riding this high and then you're flying this
jet and we get out of.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
What's a little place called.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah America tak Yeah, and we walk out and and
his team they got all these black cars lined up
and we're kind of just standing with our bags and
we got this busted little minivan that pulls off for
our uber. We hop in and we go to this
ran down Hampton in it's got barracks, it's got a
cop sitting outside for security all all day, all night
around and we walk in like, hey, we're here to

(36:35):
check in. Was like last name Lawan, it could be
under Lawan Hargus Compton and he's like, can you show
me your confirmation number? Taylor Garrett pull out their phone
and give him the confirmation number. He's like, it seems
like your car got declined or didn't go through, Like
I don't have a reservation on here, therefore we don't
have rooms for you guys. There's like, can we get
three rooms for the night? He's like, oh, we're all
sold out? And this is that Like, yeah, two two

(37:00):
thirty in the morning, and it was dark and ominous
in this lobby. You had a couple different animals, a
dude that look like, what did I say, Patty the
battie on meth? Yeah, yeah, and then another cat who
had like sores.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
On the back of his legs.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
Get a towel and some toiletry bags and the guy
that brings it out to him, yeah, he his moves
to the side and then continues to walk around the lot.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
We're in a weird spot and we sit down and
I'm like, so the work begins and we start looking
for different hotels. And at this point in time, it's
two two thirty in the morning, so you're looking to
book hotels and you know, we're from the digital age.
You're trying to book it online, but there's nothing that
you can book because Friday is now blacked out. You
can't you can't book a Friday reservation. You have to
book on Saturday since it's technically Saturday. So every check

(37:45):
in is like three pm. So we are having to
call all these hotels. Where you call, you gotta wait
for the operator to tell you list all the options.
You press four if you want to talk to the
front desk. We probably called about twenty to thirty different hotels.
Everywhere in Newark was booked.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
So the points where.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
I'm getting pissed off because I'm thinking they're just lying,
like they're just not wanting to do their job, or
they find a room because I'm like, there's no way
that all of these hotels are booked eventually, and I'll
let Taylor jump into you know, this weirdo that ended
up talking his ear off, and it was it was
getting pretty weirdly heated, I know internally for myself for
a moment because it's like, hey, we need him calling hotels,

(38:23):
like we know where to fucking go.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
Right now, right, Like we need more guys on this.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Yeah we do. Yeah, Yeah, I'm thinking in my head.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
You know, Taylor will tell you about the conversation, but
I'm thinking in my head, I need to hear Taylor.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
You got to just be like, hey, it's nice, mean
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Taylor ends up doing that this dude, I didn't let
him break that down for you.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
So they will all kind of set the stage a
little bit where there was like barracks and then there's
like a police there's like a police car that has
its lights. I'll just saying this, so you know we're
on a good spots right off the highway. We walk in,
like the lobby area is lit. That noise you heard
was Will Compton getting off the bus. We're dealing with
the back issue again. What's voice so different day new

(39:02):
back Hypothetically if you're talking about battles and wars, Will
won the Battle of the pitch, But did he win
the war because that back that he had good rotation.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
But I think it might have ended him.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
So we get to this hotel and the lobby area
is lit kind of it's a little light, it's like flickery.
But in the back where the usually have the Continental breakfast,
like the little boost and everything like that, it's dark.
There's like no lights on in there, so it's a
very like dark and ominous kind of area, like the
setting of a scene of a Yeah, dirty dude, it's gross.
And uh, as we're sitting there, like Will's over in

(39:34):
the darker area to the right, Garrett goes off to
the left, and I'm kind of sitting in the middle
little sitting area in in the lit area, just like
on my phone, trying to call places, trying to do everything.
I call place, Hey, do you have three rooms for
to night? They say no. I actually start with saying
four because I'm trying to make sure you're dialed in two.
But it's quickly it's like I just got to get three,
maybe even two, Like that's how bad this setup is.

(39:57):
And uh, after my third or fourth call out of
the shadows comes this guy And it's very weird to
talk about, but like it was one of those moments
in your life where you're like, this guy might actually.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
Do something to me.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
Well, I'm actually thinking in my head like okay, if
he does this, then I do that, Like you're literally
playing out a scene in your head of how to
protect yourself. Guy comes out and he doesn't say anything
to me except for so Red Rock and I'm like yeah.
He was like oh yeah. He's like, uh, how does
that work? And I was like, oh, bro, Like I
met Dana and then I met the people there at

(40:31):
Red Rock and they're very great to me. But I'm
very like being complimented about the place. He goes, how
does somebody like me get into Red Rock? I'm like, dude,
like you just call and walk it. Yeah, you walk
like it's not like it's like a who's who only place,
Like you just see what I do online. You're not
seeing everything else. And he's like, I like talk to
me for a little bit. And I'm like, all right, man, hey,
great to meet you. I you know, I'm like, hey,

(40:52):
good to meet you.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
I hope you hope you get a Red Rock who
we get some wins. And he's like yeah, man, I appreciate that.
Then he starts going into Cave Cree, Arizona, where I'm from.
Then he starts talking about kV but I'd be like,
I know you're from Cave Creek. I just you know,
brings up the name the town Cave Creek and starts
talking about that, and then he goes back into red rock,
all these things where I'm like so fucking uncomfortable, and

(41:15):
the guy's got a darkness in his eyes, like where
literally it's like this cat is evil. Either that or
he's just strung out of his mind, he says. And
he's like a near beer in his hand. He's like
just kind of like walking around, not saying a whole lot,
but he looks like he's eager to speak. And I
think after the second or third time, I was like, hey, man,
it's great to meet you. The third time, I was like, buddy,

(41:36):
I was really good to meet you, But like, I
gotta call these places to.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Find a place.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
Yeah, He goes, can I get your number? I say, yeah, absolutely.
He hates me his phone. It's like a it's not
it's not the phone I have.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
It's on my phone. So I'm like, hey, I don't
have this phone, Like how does it work? He goes, Oh,
I don't know. I just got it.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
I just think, okay, So I'm now looking in his
phone to find the place to put a contact in
own to put in ten digits that are not even
not one of the digits or any of the digits.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
You can't even be like maybe one of.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
These are none of them or any of the numbers
in my phone, none of them, not fucking one. And
I give it to him and the minute I do,
I walk over to Will because no joke, I'm a
little afraid. I'm a little nervous. Will is fuming. I
don't know how much Will is fuming.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
But I'm more of like frustrated because I'm like, we
gotta find a spot, and it's starting to hit me
like we might not find a fight. We might be
almost because I almost started to look in the Airbnb
and if I can just message an owner that unlocks
something digitally, okay, here's what are but what owners up
at two thirty that you exactly all this is going
to my head to where I'm like, all right, it's

(42:44):
about to be three in the morning, Like do we
just fucking book a flight to get.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Out and places in the city? Right we were getting
out there?

Speaker 4 (42:51):
Yeah, we're looking at thirty forty five minute drives, yeah,
just to find a place to live.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
And knowing that it's already three o'clock, it's just going
through your head and you're just starting to You're like, man,
hopefully because there's so many many hotels around the area
and they're all just, oh, no, sorry, we're sold out.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
All right, yeah, And then I'm feeling for you.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
I'm starting to get because at first, I'm like, you know,
as I'm calling these and I'm hearing your guys' conversation,
like I heard him say red Rock or whatever, and
I'm just thinking, like, Taylor, come on, man, like we
got to have all three of us call, you know,
calling these places, because it just we got to cast
a wide web because everybody saying we're sold out right
now to where it was like I'm getting internally mad

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about this fucking guy talking to you because I hear
you say, hey, it was good meeting you.

Speaker 5 (43:35):
Man.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
He's like, hey, so yeah, so red Rock. I'm sure
you told the story. Yeah, and just continues to dive
in and I'm just it's just all like, it's three
in the morning, we've been up since like seven thirty
eight in the morning.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
The night before we were up late.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
Yeah, the night before, we're up late.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
So it's just it's just not a good thing. So
but once the conversation and.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
It's Friday night, so I'm starting to feel my back.
So when I got up, I'm thinking, like I was
charging my phone for a little bit just to get
enough juice. So then when it was charged a little bit,
I'm thinking I have to get up and kind of
like walk around right and move.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
But when you got up and so, like when I
finished that conversation, I'm legitimate looking for security and safety,
I'm thinking, let me make sure I'm safe first, because
this guy, I dude, I'm telling you so fucking it
was so weird.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
He's up at just three in the morning, hanging out.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Even when we left, he's sitting there talking to the
front desk guy holding his little beer.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Yeah, wide away.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
So I go over over to sit by a Will
and start calling places. And then that's when Will's like
charging the phone. He's gotta get and walk around.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
He walks away. I'm like a kid, like I'm scared. Oh,
Like he's like, yo, he's gonna come back to me,
like this.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
Is mother fucking come back. And I'm also knowing I
knew did you get it? Yeah, exactly, I knew it
gave him the wrong number. So I'm thinking myself, he's
gonna come back with them are thinking I'm like, oh,
was that my fault? It's like, how many times I
do ten.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
Digits, you know this.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
Dude's like, oh, you're just lying to me.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Like, let's go stay outside.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Let's yeah, hey, let's go.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
Let's go stay outside because.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Thank God for the holiday in Express about fifteen minutes away.
Thank God. Do you have three rooms for us tonight?

Speaker 3 (44:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (44:59):
We do, like right now, Yeah, you guys come over here.
We got rooms. I was like, bro, you have no
clue how much you just saved. Yeah, say the like
fifteen minutes, end.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
Up getting a room, putting our head down, waking up
like what ten or whatever, go to Buffalo Wild Wings, like.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
I kept falling asleep, probably like eleven or noon.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
Yeah, it's one of those deals, man. But we but yeah,
I got some beat ups.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
Beat ups sat there just talking. And it was funny too,
because we're basically having the conversations that we were having
in Saint Louis and stuff like that. We're like laughing
and joking, and.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
Will was getting a little vulgar.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
He's he's got a couple of He's just be louder
than everybody else.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
I gotta get back. I gotta take violent shit. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
I look over, I see a father and a mother
sitting with their daughter who's probably like twelve years old,
and I'm just thinking to myself. I remember being a
kid and then some guy being allowed and talking vulgar
and my dad kind of be like, excuse me, ster,
could you just I mean, look at this. And I
look over and I'm like, oh, we're the fucking guys
that are doing this. Wheels like walking around like kind

(46:04):
of I have tak a violent shit. When I get back,
some guy in a baseball game gets beat by ball Willders.
Oh shit, you guys gotta see this man. We're fucking
talking about that.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Dude in the LSU game.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
I left the zips in like ninety miles an hour
and smokes it.

Speaker 4 (46:17):
Old body like cap hits this kid in the ground
while that Also, there's a soccer game some guys rolling
around him.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
These ain't cale myne He's boys.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
That might be bad, but it's not as bad as
my pitch. I need to get up and walk it off.
So yeah, we end up sitting there.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
We go back to hotel.

Speaker 4 (46:32):
We have like six hours, and so I start walking
around this area because I'm bored.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
I'm like, there's only so much I can do in
this room.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
How many times can you a goon before It's like
all right, yeah, it's good to life. I'm losing fluids.
I go to like the walmart. There's like a walmar
Let me just go on to this walmrt here brother
talk about America being a melting pot. All of them
were in there, every single and this every single human being.
And not only that, I've never seen so many people
in wheelchairs. Mind her life was so this dude, one

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dude was missing the knee down. He had that not
he had that stump out to the side. He's taking
up half the fucking lane. People are like moving around,
everyone's gonna rush about something. This dude just slapping people
with his knee nub. I was in there for about
five minutes. I had to get out of there, man,
But yeah, I went for a little walk, went to
wa was asked garbage, garbage and literally.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
If I know if I can play Mitch's side, like
if there's zero expectation about wah wahs walking in like yeah,
I mean it's a solid gas station.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
Yeah, if there's a zero expectation and you're like wow,
you walk in me like this is a really nice
clean gas station.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Yeah, it's like Casey's it's like yeah, because we're like,
let's go get some food, and somebody sent like I was.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
Like, oh I saw the thing. I was like, oh dope.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
Mitch Carsley is always talking about how the Northeast wall
was is essentially their BUCkies. I'm like, oh shit, this
is gonna be a cool little event for us.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
You're just putting words in my mouth there.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
That's not Mitch. Have you not?

Speaker 2 (48:03):
I have not.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
I'm pretty sure I'm back of the bus.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
Last week, you said to somebody, somebody says them about
Walla as you go, oh yeah, that's that's Buggies for
the Northeast, or like you're like, oh yeah, Wallas.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
I didn't like compare it and saying that.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
But you were speaking high which is just a gas station.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
I was speaking highly about Wah.

Speaker 6 (48:22):
Yes, correct, but I never said it was anything like BUCkies,
because BUCkies is incomparable. But why like you got you're
getting you Facetimey for Saturday. This is Saturday, Yeah, Facetimey.
And I'm like, this place sucks, dude.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
Like I'm in my head, I think I'm walking into Buggies.
I think there's gonna be a wah wah sculpture of
whatever a wall is.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
Because we were also hungry. We were looking for.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
Yeah, and you go, you go get a case of
DEA that hit me back.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
Yeah, hang up the phone.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
Well, someone here got a case of do you First off,
I'm you know, I'm getting myself a little pump. Well,
pregame UFC pump. The boys are going down to Wallas
and Gez like, oh, I'm gonna go try a case
of DIA. He walks in. I can smell him from
here with the case of DOA.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
I mine.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
That shit smells terrible. Wall was Wallace good gas station,
not even close to BUCkies, not clean gas, clean gas station,
nothing impressive about the food. Get pay to any other
gas station.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Onward.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
It felt well kept. It seemed very safe, you know
what I mean, Like clean, Like yeah, it's so nice
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What else do we have?

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Boys? Dad Combine coming this week.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
Dad Combine shoots on Wednesday. That'll be outstanding. We've added
since this weekend, we've added another event, Yeah, the Dad Combine.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
But the beautiful thing is all It feels like everybody's
dad's pretty much coming. Most dads. Ninety percent of dads
are coming, which is an uptick. We have an uptick
in percentage from last year.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
Yeah, it's good, wholesome fun get the old man around,
hang out.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
Swap some war stories.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
Yeah, hopefully Dave doesn't try to cheat in a competition
that there's no winning.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Yeah, it's fun that we've been able to turn content
into like us hanging out with our dads the week
of Father's Day. Yeah, so it's like we're having a
moment with them where they're traveling in from out of
town because we're all away from our families and everybody else.
But just to have a nice hang with her with
her dads.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
Man.

Speaker 5 (51:30):
Speaking of dad's Bill made an appearance this weekend.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
Dude, he looks so good. Yeah, he has lost so
much weight. He's just the man.

Speaker 5 (51:38):
He was wearing that American flag Polo too, just like
just like taking it all in, watching you guys give
your speeches and like just like a proud dad moment.
Your dad rips Bill ribs. Yeah, shut up, Bill defending
MVPVP speaking Yeah, MVB.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
I know Bill, they're just seeing Bill is awesome. Man,
He's transformation last year.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Unreal crazy.

Speaker 5 (52:03):
Still putting down a couple of those michelob zeros. Yeah,
I love that ye still taste.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Yeah, I just wanted to take and mikelob zero what.

Speaker 4 (52:12):
We were sitting there drinking the beer out of the tap,
and I looked at well, O man, because at this
point Bill left. I was like, I kind of wish
Bill was back on the wagon for just just this moment.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Yeah, because he's been sober for like a year now.
But yeah, you're up there tasting the Sweet Nectar, the
greatest beer of all time?

Speaker 3 (52:28):
Just what was it?

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Unpasteurized cold? We're standing in thirty five degree a thirty
five degree room area with all these massive tanks.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
They bottled twenty one thousand bottles an hour of bud,
Like I thought.

Speaker 5 (52:43):
They said per minute.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
Shit they could, that'd be even more impressive. I'm pretty
sure it was even crazy. I'm crazy it was. I
think it was.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
That's like sixty times.

Speaker 5 (52:54):
More thousand cans per minute, and it was like sixteen
thousand bottles a minute. But we can obviously fact check that,
but I'm pretty sure it was a lot.

Speaker 4 (53:06):
Yeah, yeah, he said in the blog Wash the Luck,
Wash the Luck vlog's coming out.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Did you see and I'll I'll need help with this,
But apparently schools can now legally pay players in college sports.
Effective July first, twenty twenty five. Schools can directly compensate
athletes per school. They will get twenty and a half
million dollars per school, rising to thirty three million dollars
over the next decade. That includes retroactive payments for the

(53:31):
twenty sixteen to twenty twenty four period. That's huge for
those guys. I wish I was in that period because
I read that, I get a little jealous, But it's
all good. College football teams that get played with will
get more NIL money. That's on College Football CFB twenty six.
Teams that get played with the most, teams that get
played with a lot will get more money toward their NIL.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
This opens a new era that breaks from traditional NCAA amateurism,
ushering in a new professionalized college sports model. So my
first question ahead in German or if anybody's doping this ye, and.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
I definitely want to dive into this.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Is the schools that can now pay players. Say the
twenty and a half million dollars, is that essentially like
a cap that schools will have now?

Speaker 3 (54:18):
So what about the outside.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Money with NIL and all the brand deal deals going on?
You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (54:23):
You still have all the outside INIL money, but for
direct compensation. All schools can legally pay up to whatever
that number was, twenty five point nine, twenty five point
nine or point five twenty point five. Every single school
can legally pay that.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
Now they have to.

Speaker 7 (54:46):
Title nine is stepping in and their argument is, how
is this going to get fairly spread out through all
student athletes? So it's not just all going to college football?

Speaker 1 (54:59):
So okay, so this is for yeah, all that's on
me because I think about just football. So it's twenty
and a half million dollars toward all sports. Okay, so
that's good. That's good for colleges, but it's still nil
is still going to be like a supreme and they're
still going to rank supreme, Like there's no cap on
what these kids can still like make yes?

Speaker 7 (55:19):
And is it like the can the NC DOUBLEA essentially
tell And I'll just use Nebraska as an example, Like Nebraska,
you're putting eighteen of your twenty million into football? Like
what's going on here? You you got to spread.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Out the love blah blah blah.

Speaker 7 (55:35):
I mean, essentially, these schools can do whatever they want
with the money.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
They could give it all to football.

Speaker 7 (55:41):
They don't have to give a cent I.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Mean, if you're looking at it from a business standpoint,
if football is the biggest driver at the university, you're
going to put the majority of the dollars in football.
And if Title nine or somebody steps in, like that's
just another parameter that they're going to have to.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
Eventually come up and come up with.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
If it's like you can you know, forty percent goes
to football, to basketball, you know, five percent of volleyball,
to where it's like there's certain stipulations, you know what
I mean, because if not, it's like you're gonna feed
the You're gonna feed the best ones the most money
because you're trying to stay on top because that's where
all of your brain awareness comes from.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
With recruiting.

Speaker 4 (56:14):
Ill this question was already asked, but does every D
one school get twenty point five million dollars?

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (56:20):
So Ken State gets twenty point five and it's.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Spread across all sports and athletics.

Speaker 7 (56:26):
But they can give it like that's their cap. Their
salary cap that they can give throughout one year is
twenty point five million dollars.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
Okause MI understanding of the NIL is the school has
to essentially be removed from the NIL situation. Where you
have this this third party that's kind of facilitating all
of the different sponsorships and everything for name, image, likeness
and football or sports can't be a part of it.
The schools can't be a part of it, but they
kind of know what's going on. This now allows them
to make hey, this is our bucket twenty point five

(56:55):
million across all sports. Sports when the I mean, I
love the idea of a cap. I love the idea
of if college football is truly going this way, then
let's start to match it in the you know, as
much as like the NFL, as possible, you have a
certain amount of money per year you can go into.
You can't go over. If you do, there's a fine

(57:15):
or something happens with that. And then allow players to
get their sponsorships. Like you see George Kittle, he's rocking
with Chubbies and he's roalking on butt Light all these
different things. But if it's twenty point five million dollars,
I almost think of it's like, hey, great for the
other sports, because football is going to get theirs. Yeah,
I'm sure the guys that are like lower on the
totem pole in the locker room, they're gonna get like

(57:36):
everyone's have more of a base salary than these guys
that are getting paid a lot because they know a
lot of money is coming from nil and you're just like, hey, gymnastics,
track and fields, water pol low all water games, field bowling,
field hockey. Like these guys that are kind of like, hey, yeah,
we're playing college sports, but we're probably not getting a
whole lot. This is a good opportunity for.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Them, great for schools, but the biggest thing that's got
to happen is you're gonna have to you gotta find
a way to lock these these kids and athletes in
the contracts, yeah, to where it's not portal season all
year long and they can't like just sit there and
dip in and out every other year unless they're you know,
unless they signed a one year deal with the school.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (58:16):
Right, kind of going back to what you were saying
earlier of like keeping it in one like sport uh
Montana State this past year won the like D one
double A national championship. And then this there's this company
that was created and you can essentially donate money to
like on their website, to certain players to try and

(58:38):
keep them around to like increase their NIL fund that way,
Like those kids are like more inclined to stay rather
than go to a bigger school and get paid. So
that's kind of like another like I guess you could
say loophole that like ig like we can all donate
ten bucks to a player and that money will go
directly towards that player, so that like for their NIL

(58:59):
to stay at on Tanna State.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Look, I mean we're in it. It's all the money.
The floodgates are busted wide open. It's legitimately. For me,
it's like, when's the rule gonna come out to where
kids and athletes can be locked into like multi year deals.

Speaker 4 (59:12):
Yeah, there's gonna be a documentary that comes out in
the next ten years about the period that we're living
in right now about how crazy it was, because yeah,
the whole thing about contracts like that, I think that
is the biggest thing. Like these players can't just come
and make a bag for a year, like hey, we're
gonna pay you X, Y and Z. If you were
saying a four year deal like Bryce Underwood signs ten years,
four years, ten years, like next year, essentially he could

(59:33):
go I'm gonna go somewhere else and make what was it, sorry,
four years ten million. He can inessentially go to another
school that's gonna pay him one million dollars more. And
it's like wow, Like if I go and I signed
with the Titans, I'm under contract with the Titans, and
then negotiations start, I could say I'm upset, I could
be publicly about whatever and then have the conversation take place.

(59:54):
Because it's it's the wild West, bro, Like, there's so
much money. All this is telling me in the little
things I know about this already is twenty four point
five million dollars is just being added to everything else
that's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Correct, Like again in Mitch tumbat Loop Poles whatever, all
all how creative everybody's getting to get athletes money, right,
It's like, all right, accepted.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
That's great.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Now let's figure out how these kids are getting locked
into where they're there for uh more than just one year,
and I know it's where they can't leave.

Speaker 4 (01:00:21):
I love the idea of a cap and it says
that everybody, all these major schools are now on the
same playing field. So now we can kind of get
back to well, I grew up a fan of this team.
I'm loyal to this team, and you can kind of
get more of a camarade like, hey, this is our team,
not like hey it's springtime. This guy's not getting enough
snaps during the spring practice, so I'm gonna get the
hell out of here. Or I didn't play like they

(01:00:41):
said I was gonna play, so I'm gonna get the
hell out of here. Like have one fixed area for
free agency or a portal, and then as a contract
where you're like you're you were here unless these things happen,
like you have different things in your contract or whatever.
But I think if once you add a cap and
not everything, it allows teams to be like, you're more
back in the college football culture, like, yeah, everyone's getting paid,

(01:01:02):
that's great, But you chose to come here when you
know the money was the same everywhere else, or it
was the same in many different areas, you know, and
if it wasn't, you took more there, well, then they
have to sacrifice something on the back end for a
couple of other players that they would have wanted. But
right now it's just hey, who's got the biggest bank account.
Yeah that's how I feel about that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Happy, Happy, Father's Day man, Happy Father's Day, Happy Father's Day.

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
Happy Father's Day. The boys out there, that.

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Be the Father's Day to all the dad's out there.
Oh reminder, first episode of For the Dads. You're listening
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Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
That was magical. I need to like get a recording
of that and start I have him play that before
shows and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
We get that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
We know the best thing about this is being recorded.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Get your way, dude, it is due.

Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
Your voice is insane. And I do have to give
a shout out to Jack and Garrett. So a couple
of our boys, like nine ten months ago I was
in the football season, are like, dude, this zach topcat. Yeah,
to get the zach Top. Your boy Tyler's over here,
I guess working the phones. He's on the internet trying
to get our AOL accounts, trying to figure that whole
thing out. How you get zach on, Get Zack on
and I like, I'm a guy that's like everyone's on

(01:05:29):
a show and it's like, have you heard of severance?
How amazing a severance? And I'm like, you know what,
I'm on. Wait three years until all the fuss.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
Is over, Gona get the severance.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
So as like the season ends, we're like, hey, talking
about Zach top I go pop on the Spotify and
I listened to your number one song. I never lie,
and Buddy, it's essentially Ocean Front Property by George Trait.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
It is.

Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
It's like, this is incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
Well, thanks man, it's really good. I haven't nobody's made
that comparison before, and that's exactly right. It's just the
whole thing is a sarcastic lie, and yeah, that's my favorite.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
No one's bought that, No one said that before.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
No, I've never heard that comparison. I haven't even thought
of it. But yeah, it's it's exactly. It's the same thing.

Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
Our boys who do do what research were saying that
your your parents aren't musically inclined at all.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
No, they the music stuff. I mean we all. I
grew up in church and stuff, singing church, and so
my mom and dad sang in church, but yeah, they
never My dad can play a mean Mary had a
little lamb on the piano and the banjo.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
Okay, so think got a little something.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
Yeah, not really, but they have great musical taste. I'll
say that they got me started on the right stuff.
But no, they My oldest sister, lake And was the
first one. Uh and she's several years older than me
and the rest of us kids. The rest of us
three are all year and a half apart. But she

(01:06:50):
was the first one. She loved piano, was classically trained pianists,
really good at that. I remember going around. We would
go to her, she would go do competitions and stuff,
and uh, we ran around the Northwest following her around
when I was real little. Uh and so she started teaching.
I think mom and dad forced her to start teaching
us little kids a pianna two and that was probably
miserable for her. Uh and then uh yeah, but it

(01:07:13):
was I think they got me a guitar when I
was three. I think I just bagged them. I love
George Strait.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
That was the.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
I wanted to Amory Little by Morning was my favorite song.
That was what I wanted to learn how to play.
I just wanted to hold a guitar and wear a
cowboy hat and look like George Strait and so there's uh,
there's goofy pictures of me doing that at three and anyways,
and then uh, yeah, five years old, I took my
first lesson, I guess, and we yeah, me and Maddie,

(01:07:41):
who's my younger older sister. She started playing fiddle, and
then shortly after that, joring my little brother, and then
Lake and the piano player sister was. She started playing
bass and he started playing manteline. So we, I don't know,
just stumbled in. It never was the idea, but stumbled
into making a little family band and played our first
show when I was seven. And yeah, anyways, but yeah,

(01:08:03):
didn't come from mom and dad. They encouraged it, I guess. Yeah,
my dad did not encourage us to get into the
livestock business. My little brother is now. But that's what
I always say that everybody else kind of grew up.
Oh there it is, Yeah nice. They all grew up
and got real jobs, and I'm still just out here.

Speaker 4 (01:08:23):
And you said your you said your sister was going
around the Pacific Northwest doing piano competitions.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
Yeah, yeah, what's is there.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
Like a drum line thing where one person goes and
the next person goes and then some starts hitting.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
On I have very yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, I
don't like I have very just vague few memories of that.
I was really little. I probably I guess I was
probably five or six years old or something when she
was doing that. But yeah, we just we go sit
and you know, as usually in some church or something,
we sit there and peuse and everybody go up there

(01:08:55):
and they play their piece and I think it was competitions,
and that's I don't remember that part, but if there
was a winner, I guarantee you it was her. She
was that good, huh. She she is not much in
like the sporting world, but one of the most competitive
people I think, like card games, board games, anything like that,

(01:09:17):
and just like anything she does, she kind of has
a need to be the best at it for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:09:25):
Yeah, she'd be all right, Yeah, she would definitely be
able to do that. So you start this, you start
this band at seven? Yeah, what's the band's name?

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
Top string?

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Top String?

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
Yes, my mom my mom came up with that. She's
pretty proud of that. Yeah, but yeah, it was a goofy,
like I said, we never like, we didn't have a
plan to be a band, and we were all just like,
I don't know, kind of wanted to learn an instrument.
And mom and dad were like, okay, we'll put you
in lessons and then we are family orthodonist who was like,

(01:09:58):
also there like an extra set grandparents for us kind
of they He was like in the Rotary club in
town and stuff, and there was a Patsy Cline musical. Oh,
there's a good one right there, Patsy Cline musical coming
through playing at the local high school. And he was like,
he called my dad and John, aren't you aren't your

(01:10:18):
kids playing music or something? You think they'd want to
come down here and play a show? And uh, anyway,
I guess, so the story goes. My dad said, well, Randy,
I can't answer that for him. You're gonna have to
talk to them, and so he had me the phone
and I was like, yeah, Randy, we'd love to come
play your show. Yeah exactly. He was like, well, it's

(01:10:38):
it's a couple of months away, and I guess I went,
well that's good. By then we'll know some songs we
love to play your show. Anyway, Yeah, we did that,
and that was I learned what an autograph was. That night,
some nice old church lady come up and asked me
for my autograph, and I went to my mom and
was like, Mom, what's an autograph? And so anyway, yeah,
that was the start of it all.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
Did you start spending a lot of time on the
back of your notebook practicing your autograph or in your note.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
That didn't come till like, I feel like I was
like fifteen or something when I started to Yeah, and
it went through a few iterations, and now it doesn't
look like anything. I feel like a lot of people's is.
It just turns into some kind of scribble. Yeah, high school,
because it's gotta be fast.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
You're like, you try and perfect something. You get me
one day.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
If I'm exactly grated, yea. If I'm in the MLB
or I'm a country singer.

Speaker 4 (01:11:29):
Can do anything. I remember when when I was training
for the Combine, I signed a deal with Panini and
they're like, hey, we'll give you X amount of dollars
Panini sandwich. No, it's a card company, Okay, So you
like sign these stickers and they put them on like
your rookie card or whatever. Okay, sure, and like you
signed four thousands of these, we'll give you like like
ten ten thousand dollars. Sure, And I'm thinking to myself, bro,

(01:11:50):
ten thousand is fucking insane, Like that's amazing. So I
started doing Taylor all in cursive, luwan and now by
like the twentieth one, I was like, this is nope,
we got switched something up TC and a little switch Yeah,
moving on, And it hasn't changed since then, but it
is always kind of cool to got to go through.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
Man if I'm if I'm the man someday, Yeah, just
sit that. You're gonna look there's some yeah, there's some
school notebooks.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:15):
Look like you mentioned baseball is baseball, You're the sport
you grew up love loving.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
Yeah that well, I started that when first, you know,
starting t ball and all that. I was a decent
little baseball player. I was a lefty, so played first base.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
And then Taylor he's a lefty.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
Yeah no kidd, yeahs baseball. Yeah, dude, pull up the clip.
Come on.

Speaker 4 (01:12:34):
So this weekend we were in Saint Louis and the Cardinals.
Yeah we're doing something with Aneiser Bush and uh, for
first form.

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
This is me. First pitch here, first pitch. Now we'll say,
who have a posit? First question? Have you seen this?

Speaker 5 (01:12:48):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
You seen this? Second?

Speaker 4 (01:12:50):
And this is a massive insurance policy. Played a lot
of football. Yeah, a little shoulder, I just okayd in
twenty twelve. This thumb here, that's a U c L
that's actually hasn't been fixed at all. Perfect he's so
you can tell it's a little fucked up.

Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
Yeah, it's healthy.

Speaker 4 (01:13:06):
It's fun to have home with your boys we're talking about.
But we're kind of doing the whole dance right now.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
We're gonna friends.

Speaker 4 (01:13:10):
Nothing to walk away from this. What's life going to
be like? And I know this is gonna put me by.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
It's gonna play a clip. Look at that. It's a
it's a great wind up. Oh that was that thumb?
I saw that? Yeah, you see it?

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
I hate I love getting to like like I've just
gained enough popularity that I like now like some sports
guys are starting to pay attention, like our fans and stuff.
Somehow I got invited to do UH. I shot a
charity free throw for UH the Houston Rockets game back

(01:13:46):
when we played the Houston Rodeo in March. And I
play a good little bit of basketball too. That was
like that became my favorite sport. And I was always
too small to I always try to be a post
player and just you know, it's too small, way too white,
and can't jump high and can I yeah here if
you oh, it's so, it's so I'm so slow now, yes, terrible,

(01:14:10):
But anyways, I I did this and I went out
there and I wore a freaking button down shirt, which
was already a bad idea. And the first shot I
tried to shoot with my cowboy hat on and it's like, oh,
that doesn't work. I kind of take that off and
set it down. Anyway, I air balled the free throw.
It was horrible that in the middle of everybody, what

(01:14:32):
do you mean like that my warm Oh yeah here,
I mean he's got yeah, there you go. She got videos.
I made like seven in a row or something while
I was warming up, and I was like, heck, yeah,
I'm good, and then yeah, there you gone, feeling exactly exactly,
Yeah I was. I was like, hey, yeah, I'm locked in,
and then walked out there when I did it, and

(01:14:54):
it was like, you know, it's like a mid season game.
There wasn't hardly anybody there yeah to see it anyway,
but there were a couple of fans. When I went
down there warm up, there was already some people in there,
and they a couple of fans saw me, And so
somebody knows that I I definitely air balled that free throw. Somebody,
kids or kids or something suffered that night. I think

(01:15:16):
I think if I made it, they got like there
was like five thousand dollars donated. If I missed, they
still got three thousands, so air and how bad is that?
I would be exactly Well, so it wasn't the middle
that was. It was what it was before the game started,
So it was like there was almost nobody in there.
So I was saved a little shame, but it still
was just like, dude, that was like my dad was

(01:15:39):
always my coach in all the you know, in baseball
and basketball growing up and stuff, and as he would
always just dude, make your free throws. You're playing in
the post. You're gonna get fouled a big man. There's
nothing makes me more mad than a big man that
can't make his free throw. You're gonna go to the line. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:15:57):
Yeah, you're sitting in Washington watching shack mister free.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
Yeah, yeah, exaggerated, call it free for a reason.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
Yeah, professional ball players, Yeah, make their free throw right,
the basic.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
Do you get paid ten million dollars a year? Nothing?

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:16:17):
Nothing may be more mad than like not making the
playoffs and you're with your boys, or you're at like
a barbecue or something like that, Like in January, everyone's
watching playoff football and someone like drops the ball, but
it's like they're kind of reaching out for it, and
then some fat guy in the corner is like.

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
How do you not catch that?

Speaker 4 (01:16:32):
You're talking like that for.

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
Chips, dude, exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
I saw your trip three times walking to that chair.
What the are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
He's gotta I am that guy though, he's got how
do you drop it? Yeah, I'll be on that. I'd
be on the sideline watching the offense. Yeah, I definitely
sitting there. Yeah, dude, I mean cheetah crumbs, you got it.
You gotta make the play.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
You're dead being your coach growing up? Did you have
the wolf of ball hanging down from a string in
the garage?

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
We're gonna I don't think we ever did that. We
definitely remember just I was always I would kind of
side on the ball. He hated that when I was
and oh yeah yeah, make the tea, come over the
I'm down here.

Speaker 4 (01:17:24):
I'm not getting paid here, I'm getting paid exactly, don't
do this dog and bullshit. And you've been there before. Okay,
he's a shy shake. You did that for the basket.
You're play in front of a full stadium and you're like,
thank you very much, walked off.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
And that's the whole thing exactly. It's like, well, that's
what I'm good at. So that's like, I'm not nervous there.
I'm not. It's not like some yeah, big showboat thing.
But it's like I don't. I don't do this. I'm
bad at this. If I can, if I make a
few in a row here, yeah, this is my deal
right now.

Speaker 4 (01:17:59):
This is my Yeah, dude, your dad, so you grew up.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
You grew up on a ranch, lash farm?

Speaker 4 (01:18:04):
Which one was it?

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
No? It was so we lived on this. It was
just a little hobby farm. Basically. I think there was
ay might I had thirty acres there or something. I
can't remember, but yeah, we had a bunch of goats
around always a handful of horses every now and then
a few cattle. Uh, but yeah, you know, next to
a bunch of people that were raising cattle and stuff.
And then he had his he's uh in the livestock business.

(01:18:26):
He runs a sale barn uh back in Washington, still does.
My brother works for him now. So we got to Oh,
is that sunny side right there? Yeah? There, it is magical.

Speaker 4 (01:18:37):
That's the hometown right there.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
Huh, that's it. Yeah, we lived that was like the
we lived over on the I don't even know what
side of town it was, but we were kind of out, uh,
out on the edge of it. But anyway, Yeah, we
had that hobby farm where we lived, and then it
was like ten miles away from there or something. He
had a ranch for a little while with his business partner,
and that was where we got to, you know, go

(01:18:59):
up and play cowboys a little bit and you know,
go for around. We go ride some fence, do it.
You know. Whenever there was a branding or gather or something,
we got to go out there.

Speaker 4 (01:19:07):
And part of it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
Yeah, take our lame little nags from the farm and
wander around and make a mess for all the guys
that actually knew what they were doing, and yeah, it
was a grand time.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
Yeah, when did you start to think that you could
possibly have a future in music.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
Which a good question.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
The idea is fantasizing about it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
Yeah, I mean, you know, like I always wanted to
that was always kind of the goal. But I think,
you know, my parents having no exposure to the music
business like I didn't have being in Washington, I didn't
really have anyone to guide me on like what I
need to do to get into the music business. So
I was just playing and singing and I practiced like

(01:19:49):
crazy and that was kind of it. And then in college,
I moved to Boulder, went to CU Boulder for a year,
I guess three semesters and then decided I hated it.
And I was a year away from finishing a mechanical
engineering degree, and uh decided I was sick of it.

(01:20:11):
Well that was my story to my parents. I I
started dating a girl and uh and never old. Yeah.
I never went to my circuits class and failed that class,
and then I was gonna have to take it was
like one of those that only is offered in the
spring or something, and so I was going to take
a whole extra year to go back and do that

(01:20:32):
circuits class again. And so I was like, I think
I'm done. I'm gonna go work construction and save money
and moved to Nashville. That was not what I told
my parents when I told them I was quitting school, though,
had I told them. I was just like, no, it's
just just music is where my heart's at. This is
really what I gotta do. Yeah, it was sound much

(01:20:55):
more inspirational. Exactly exactly, I'm not passionate about your exactly,
that's right, but that, you know, that was always their
advice to me. It was just like, you know, go
get a good job and you can go play bluegrass
vestvals on the weekend, you know, with your buddies. And
so that was kind of always what I thought i'd do.
And then yeah, started working construction. Started posting some of

(01:21:19):
these videos on Facebook. Was kind of the first thing
that I did. That was the first one that blew
up for me. Anyway, I'd posted a few and you know,
I get like fifteen hundred views or something. It wasn't nothing,
but then had one. A guy named Darryl Singletary was
one of my favorite singers. He was late nineties early
two thousands. Guy, phenomenal singer, real old school sounding, and

(01:21:42):
he passed away in February of twenty eighteen, and I
put up a video there it is. Yeah, the old
Spilled Whiskey was the song I put that up. And anyway,
that was the first it blew up. It got like
three hundred and thirty thousand views or something like that Facebook,
and so there I got a few calls from and

(01:22:02):
emails from people in Nashville, mostly like shyster types kind of.
It was like, you can come up with twenty thousand dollars,
we'll cut you a record and make you a star.
And I didn't know anything about the music business, but
I was pretty sure that that was not how it worked. Yeah.
So anyway, and then a guy named Carson Chamberlain, who
is my producer to this day, sent me some email.

(01:22:25):
Uh what is funny. The girl I was dating at
the time was the one that saw it because I
kind of a little.

Speaker 4 (01:22:29):
Different girl than Boulder girl. Yeah this is Bolder girl. Oh,
same girl, yes, sir? All right, okay we still dating her?

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
Yeah, no, sir, No.

Speaker 4 (01:22:37):
Taylor, Yeah yeah, yeah, all right, okay, sorry Boulder, but
really fucked that up. Lord, No, what you did, man?
But Wolf alright, golf, we're having good time. We're having
good time.

Speaker 3 (01:22:54):
What's Denise, We're having a good time.

Speaker 4 (01:22:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
Yeah, then yeah, he sent some email and like didn't
hardly say anything in it. He was it's just like,
I my name's Carson Chamberlain. Been in the music business.
While I'm not much for toot mo own horn, but
you can probably look me up if you want to
give me a give me a call sometime if you
want to talk about working together anyway. And so my

(01:23:20):
girlfriend texted me. She was like, you remember this Chamberlain guy,
And none of those are Carson Chamberlain. He has he
is the most underground, Like no, oh yeah, there you go.
There's a couple of pictures. Yeah, that's old school Carson there. Yeah, nineteen, Yeah,
that's probably that's probably the eighties or something, maybe nineties.

Speaker 4 (01:23:43):
He's aged a bit since then.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
Yeah, oh yeah, there you guys a little more recent one. Yeah,
it's just a few years ago. Anyways, she's like, you
remember this Chamberlain guy. I said, no, not really, And
she's like, all right, I'm sending you a Wikipedia link
right now. You're gonna want to call this guy back anyway,
pulled up the link and he was Keith Whitley's steel
player and band leader, tour manager Alan Jackson for a
few years, you know, big producer on Mark Will's, Billy Currington,

(01:24:10):
Easton Corbin, a bunch of guys that I was, you know,
a fan of already and stuff and and so anyway,
I was like, oh, dang, well, this guy might actually
be legit. And he, you know, he came about it
a much different way too. He wouldn't ask him for
money to go in and cut songs. He was like, manless,
see if we can be buddies, and then we'll you know,
we'll see if we can work together after that. And

(01:24:31):
so we spent you know, it's been I started coming
to town that fall of twenty eighteen. He would find
me in, let me stay at his house, set up
co writs for us. He was a big time mentor
and you know, kind of a father figure for me
out here as well. But anyway, yeah, I started working
with him. We wrote songs for four years, I guess,

(01:24:53):
before we ever put out that first record last year.
And yeah, he kind of he showed me the ropes
on the music business. Uh, making records, you know, everything.
So that was kind of my first foot in the
door where it was like, oh, if this guy thinks
I got something, maybe I can uh you know, have
a chance at making it his business. So that's my
long rambling answer to I think we got to what

(01:25:15):
your question was about.

Speaker 4 (01:25:16):
Honestly, dude, long rambling answers is exactly what we look at.

Speaker 3 (01:25:19):
That's what that's what positive I will and I.

Speaker 4 (01:25:21):
Could just sit back if you talk the whole time,
but Dad, make our It's way easier that way.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
So the family band had to break up.

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
Yeah, yeah, we all kind of that's cool. Tell us
about when he first out to Nashville. Let's talk about
when were a child.

Speaker 4 (01:25:34):
Bring us back to that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
So you're eight, yeah, yeah, yeah. We kept that going
till uh seventeen, I guess, yeah, or I was seventeen anyway, Yeah,
so about ten years we ran around and did that,
and then yeah, we were all uh me and Maddie
were moving off to college and uh, Joran was still

(01:25:55):
younger staying back home, and so it was just kind
of like, you know, logistically wasn't gonna happen anymore. And
like I said before, they all grew up and got
real jobs. Mattie is a veterinarian now liking as a teacher.
Well heck, she's chair of the math department at front
Range Community College. Now she's still in Bolder actually her
family and stuff. And then yeah, little brother's working for dad.

Speaker 4 (01:26:17):
So when when you first make the steps to get
you have the you know, the very touching conversation with
your parents. Mechanics is and in my life, I need
I need to move to Nashville, Tennessee. When you get
to Nashville, how intimidating is that for you? Because when
I get to Nashville, It's like, I'm a football player.
I'm not really trying. I'm not in this massive world, right,
But you walk down Broadway and every single bar you

(01:26:38):
listen to, like, everyone sounds good, everyone's extremely talented. Like
you officially taking yourself as like a big fish small ponds.

Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
And you've gone into the ocean.

Speaker 4 (01:26:45):
You're you're in the big leagues bub like someone probably
shoulders coaching music whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:26:50):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:26:51):
You know, so, how do you, like, what is your problem?

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
Like?

Speaker 4 (01:26:54):
Are you are you naturally a confident guy with this?
Are you kind of like leaning on people like, Hey,
I so you do that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:59):
I do this people.

Speaker 4 (01:27:00):
We could help each other out and accountabil a buddy
out there, Like, what what was your process when you
first got to Nashville.

Speaker 3 (01:27:05):
Yeah, I was very uh brought the girl with you? Yes, yeah,
for a minute, yes, and then that that ended.

Speaker 4 (01:27:13):
We should real quick, I'll put that to bed. But
you should call her and.

Speaker 3 (01:27:17):
Just be like niked we we yes.

Speaker 5 (01:27:21):
She her.

Speaker 4 (01:27:22):
You missed that. You failed that mechanic's clouds. You probably
just be a mechanic right now. You be the most
the most talented mechanic of all time if it wasn't
for this girl and her beautiful eyelashes flapping them at
you over and over again for you to fail their class.

Speaker 3 (01:27:35):
Yeah, there's there's a lot of things. I ended up
being married to her for a little while.

Speaker 4 (01:27:39):
That's all right, Yeah, it's all good. So yeah, called
that an annulment. Dude, you get that in there, you
get your feet went a little bit. We tossed that
out the window. You want to quite that, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
But no it is a few years. So we were
going away, that's all. It was good.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
There was a question away from me, like, so what
actually happened?

Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
Yeah? Why could we make it work. Get on the phone.
It's really so.

Speaker 4 (01:28:07):
Anyway, yeah onwards.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
So were you nervous coming out here for the n Yeah,
I think most.

Speaker 3 (01:28:13):
Of the ship going on like this. We'll talk to
the therapists.

Speaker 4 (01:28:21):
Yes, so you're in Nashville, yes, uh.

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
Yeah, I can't. When I came out, it was mostly
like I didn't do any I didn't play around town
at all, did not do the Broadway thing at all.
It was just I was still working construction. Uh. When
I came here, I got my dad to uh go
in with me. We bought a place north of town
and I gutted the whole thing and remodeled it. Uh
and then and it's still waiting on it to be sold.

(01:28:50):
So but anyway, it got the job done. It was just,
you know, I needed to have something to do. And
then i'd ride a couple of days a week with
Carson and whoever else we were with. Oh yeah, there's
my Nice. That's what I did at work all the time. Nice.
I get it here one Oh yeah, oh yeah, I
spent way too.

Speaker 4 (01:29:09):
Hips swing as wild.

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
I don't think you're supposed to do that, but yeah,
yeah you a better of a show.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
Yeah, see you on the internet being of fine.

Speaker 4 (01:29:30):
When I tell you about them, presley turn into something
you looking back at it now, do you think like, oh,
I was a little like even you go to Nashville
to be a part of it, but then you kind
of still stay underground with everything, like you're just doing
your own thing.

Speaker 3 (01:29:48):
Yeah, and that was a lot on the on account
of Carson, my producer. He I kind of figured it
would be I'm gonna get down, I will play every
night of the weekend. You know, I'm going to Nashville.
I'm on play and sing. That's what I'm there for.
And he advised me that it was like, man, keep
keep Nashville at arm's length kinda, and it's it's like

(01:30:09):
a if you can get it to where Nashville wants
you more than you need Nashville, that's then you've got
a little leverage, and that's kind of like a better
foot to be starting off of. So anyway, that was, yeah,
we just set. We stayed underground, wrote a pile of songs.
I signed a publishing deal in twenty twenty one with

(01:30:31):
that was right when I so I spent almost three
years just flying in and out like for a week
every month or something, and I would play shows out
on the road, but I was still living in Colorado,
come in here frequently and write and do all that.
But yeah, I didn't get moved here till spring of

(01:30:51):
twenty one, I guess. Shortly after that got a publishing deal,
so I was making a little check for that, which
was helpful. And then yeah, doing this supposed to be
remodeling a house, and I was just playing with my
hammer and playing guitar. So anyway, yeah, and uh yeah,
and then yeah, management Publishing kind of came along with

(01:31:14):
Major Bob Music Stu with them. Tyler is a representative
of management company and Kyla over here, so they come
along to Yeah, make sure I don't say anything too stupid.
Let you guys know which which comments of mine we
need to cut.

Speaker 4 (01:31:31):
And yeah, I feel like you've said nothing wrong. Well
it's really me, am I guessing that right? Look at
your I can't tell.

Speaker 1 (01:31:39):
It seems like you built up a lot of trust
with your mentor him kind of looking at that vision works.
I'm sure you had a bunch of questions to be like, Yeah,
I like, are I going out?

Speaker 3 (01:31:47):
Yeah? Why am I still swinging a hammer? I'm like
why am I waiting?

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
Like, if I'm good, why wouldn't I want to get
out in front of people as many as I can,
as fast as I can and kind of just trust
the process with him.

Speaker 3 (01:31:58):
Yeah, Yeah, And the way he put it, he was
just like, man, a lot of times people will like,
it used to be a thing back in the nineties
and before that kind of that, Yeah, you go play
some bar downtown, And that was when actual industry people
would go hang out, you know, it wasn't the tourist
thing that it is now, and industry people would go

(01:32:19):
down to Roberts and have a beer after work and
see who was ever, you know, whoever was in there
playing at the time, and if they were good, it's like, hey,
let's you know, give this guy a deal, you know,
record deal or whatever, publishing or whatever, and and so
it's just not that anymore. It's it's a tourist thing.
So what he what Carson told me, was just like, Man,

(01:32:40):
a lot of times, it seems like people would go
down there, get a gig on Broadway or you know,
however many gigs, and you kind of just get sucked
into that and it's hard to break out of it.
You you know, you don't have any time to If
you want to make any money on Broadway, you got
to play on the weekends, and so you don't have
any time to be playing on the road. You're not
building an audience as much as you know, if you

(01:33:03):
now it's basically you know, use TikTok and Instagram, the
you know, those are the best tools for independent, up
and coming UH artists. So that's that's what I was doing.
I was just singing cover songs, uh, putting them online
and building an audience kind of with that and then
just yeah, stacking up songs. Writing songs are crazy, and yeah,
looking back on it now, it's there's there was a

(01:33:25):
lot of wisdom in that, and I think it made
a lot of sense, and I've tried to, uh, you know,
pass that along to other guys that I've come across
that are uh, you know, it's like, ah, I got
to get to Nashville. It's like, you don't need to
get to Nashville. It's you know, you can be up
here some but like, yeah, keeping it underground. That was
the other thing Carson said, like something like keep a
little bit of mystique about it. If you can be

(01:33:48):
a guy that's you know, anybody can see any night
of the week in town. There's like, oh, well he
plays over here on Wednesday nights, and then he plays
that riders around on Friday nights, and then he'll be
over there on Saturday. Then it's it's all was kind
of like some of the the mystery and the shine
comes off of it, and it's like the way it
happened for me, it felt like people were starting to

(01:34:10):
like be aware that I was around because of the
social media thing, but they couldn't come see me anywhere
in Nashville. I didn't do may many writers a rounds,
hardly ever played shows in town. And yeah, anyway, and
it works different for everybody's there's no obviously, no one
formula for you know, how to make it big in

(01:34:32):
country music anyway. But but yeah, I think there's a
lot of wisdom and yeah, like you said, just the
process that uh Carson had in mind and it yeah, shit,
I guess it's it's worked out okay so far.

Speaker 4 (01:34:46):
Yeah, did Carson ever sit there and be like, you know,
he's obviously been in the game for a very long
time before the internet eve existed. Did he ever break
it down like back in my day type conversations.

Speaker 3 (01:34:54):
About how favorite conversation because it's it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:34:57):
It's like, yeah, if you want to do music, essentially
what you're saying is like you don't have to be
in one central location anymore. You have the Internet to
boost everything. But if you go back to the nineties,
which is all the people that are kind of giving
you your influence, yep, how did these cats get figured out?

Speaker 3 (01:35:10):
How they get found? Yeah, yeah, hitchhike to Nashville and
go knock on doors with your guitar and playing a song.
You know, that's literally what would happen a lot of times.
Or you know, like I was saying, go, you know,
get a gig playing in a bar and then you
know herb Woolsey comes in after work and has a
beer and thinks you saying good and yeah, like well yeah,

(01:35:31):
it just gets you a deal. Boy.

Speaker 4 (01:35:32):
It's crazy how that all that all of gets figured out.
What's your thought with Like it's country meansy to me
is so interesting right now because it seems like it's
not a massive come up. And I don't know if
it's the amount of access that people have, but it's
like the mainstream like bro country that was kind of
taking place in like the late two thousands and the tens.
That's kind of like a little side gig now with
a little more DM music. But then you have like

(01:35:53):
your blue grasses with your Tyler Childers. You got like
your rock with your jelly rolls, and you're earnest and hearty.
So there's this obviously country genre with a bunch of subgenre.

Speaker 3 (01:36:02):
Yeah, when you listen.

Speaker 4 (01:36:03):
To country music, is it like this is the only
kind of country? Was like, are you're like one of
those guys? It's like this is to me, this is
country music. Yeah, there's a place for everything. What's there
always is a place for everything? Before you want that cut?
Everyone has allowed to do that. But like, what's like,
is there like a piece of you that's like, this
is the stuff that I messed with, even if it's

(01:36:24):
not your particular genre.

Speaker 3 (01:36:27):
Yeah, not much, dude, I'm pretty predictable. There's not there's not. Yeah,
I agree. It's like I think it's cool that it
is a wide, very wide genre right now, and you
know a room for a lot of different stuff, and
it's it's cool to me too. That's like, you know

(01:36:48):
a lot of the same people that will go to
a Morgan Wallan show will go to my show, and
you know, to them, it's all country music and they
love it all. So it's I'm glad I have a
spot here, and I'm glad for everybody else that's got
a spot in the genre too. But yeah, you know,
if it's something I'm gonna turn on in my truck
or something, it's old, you know, nineties and earlier, usually earlier,

(01:37:11):
some old Merle Haggard or something, Yeah, George Jones, and yeah,
it's I don't know, it's that stuff never gets old
to me. And there's and two like those older guys
made so many records, put out so many songs back
in the day. Uh you know, they'd be putting up
two a year sometimes, And so there's always just like
something that like, oh my god, how have I never

(01:37:32):
stumbled on this song before? So there's always, yeah, something
you know, even though it's obviously decades old, still something
new to discover and that always tickles me. So yeah, was.

Speaker 1 (01:37:42):
It a hard transitioning from bluegrass to country?

Speaker 3 (01:37:46):
No, that was country was always where my heart was,
and it was the teacher that we had. Marie parks.
She just happened to. Bluegrass was her thing, so she
just taught me and my siblings what she knew, and
so we kind of our whole family just dove into
the whole bluegrass scene. We spent every summer running around

(01:38:08):
doing bluegrass festivals. Almost every weekend of the of the summer,
we'd be doing that. I missed out, I was. I
missed out on some All Star Baseball teams and stuff
like that. To uh, I think my parents realized even
if I was okay as a twelve year old, I
probably wasn't gonna make the MLB. So maybe stick with
the guitar buddy, ye. So but anyways, yes, we did

(01:38:33):
that for you know, ten years. We were just doing
those festivals and stuff and that was just what we knew.
That's what I had access to. So I did that.
But you know, we were still playing uh you know,
country covers in our bluegrass shows and stuff that you know.
I said, Amarilla by Morning was the first song I
ever asked to learn how to play when I was five,
And I think my teacher said, well, that's a nice idea.

(01:38:55):
Maybe it'll start with Jesus Loves Me and we can
work our way up to that. But anyways, but you know,
so I was always playing country songs and stuff in
our shows, and that was, you know, where my heart
was for sure. But bluegrass was It was a cool
thing too because it tends to be a very like
family friendly genre and uh, you know, there's not many

(01:39:16):
honky tonks that I could go up and do a
set at seven years old, but bluegrass festivals they'll let
you on stage for an open mic, you know when
you're a kid and stuff. So it was I got
a lot of practice and like an early head start
on being on stage, being behind the microphone and you know,
entertaining people outside of just working on playing and singing,
you know that aspect of putting on a show. Got

(01:39:37):
early practice on that, which I think was super beneficial
for me too. But yeah, and then it was it
was basically just when I met Carson that was like,
I here's my foot in the door, and I can
do the country thing that I always wanted to.

Speaker 4 (01:39:50):
Yeah, you've mentioned Alan Jackson, Merle Haggard, George Straight, like
all these guys that have have had massive influence in you.
Have you ever talked to George Straight? Have you ever
like had a conversation with him.

Speaker 3 (01:40:02):
Yeah, I got to Uh, this.

Speaker 4 (01:40:04):
Is the goat of all goats.

Speaker 3 (01:40:05):
Yeah, yeah, man, he is the man. It's hard to
say he's not. Yeah, yeah, he's Yeah, he's amazing. What
a crazy career and you know, and it's wild now
that he's seventy is he like seventy two or something?
I think, but he, uh, you know, is still selling
out stadiums. Uh, is ridiculous. But yeah he I got

(01:40:29):
to do his charity golf tournament the last two years, uh,
down outside of San Antonio, and yeah, so we got
to Uh, I got to meet him a little. I
wouldn't say I've really had a conversation with him, but
he's been very nice to me and got to talk
to him, you know, just in passing a couple of times, uh,
which is cool enough for me. It was uh, yeah,

(01:40:51):
it was pretty awesome. And I got to at his
little golf tournament. The last night of it, they you know,
do a big show. So his band sets up there
and uh and they led a you you know, of course,
there's a handful of different artists there and stuff. So
he let everybody get up and do a few songs
and then he closes out the night and sings a
little set. And uh, this last year he I was

(01:41:12):
getting off and he was like, man, stay up here
and play some with us. So I got to hold
on to the guitar and play little back up for
George Straight, which is pretty dang cool. And I've got
a picture of me. The piano player took it from
side stage kind of it's Jamie Johnson, George and then
me and then Dean Dillon, who is you know, the

(01:41:34):
songwriter who wrote over half a Straight's big hits. Yeah,
there it is. That's cool. Yes, that was pretty dang cool.

Speaker 4 (01:41:43):
Was there ever like a starstruck moment with that or
were you pretty like, oh.

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
Yeah, I'm an idiot when I get around. There's I
told when I met Vince Gill he was another big
influence on me, and I met him out at the Opry. Uh,
I don't know, I spent a couple of years ago, now,
I guess I told him. I was like, man, there's
not many people left alive that would make me starstruck
and act like an idiot, and you're one of them.
So I'm sorry in advance. And it's kind of the

(01:42:07):
same thing with George with Alan, and it's like I
don't know what to say to these guys. You know,
it's kind of like I wish I could just be
cool and just have a normal conversation because that's like
I like that now that I've got a little popularity.
It's like when somebody can just talk with you and
bullshit about something that's fun. It's like, I know, there's
like I've got a lot of fans and stuff, and

(01:42:28):
obviously nothing like these guys, Like I don't want to
just be another guy saying, oh my god, I grew
up on your music your most amazing thing. You've heard
that exactly exactly. But it's like I don't know what
else to say to a tough too.

Speaker 1 (01:42:40):
There's party that just wants to tell them, like how
much you understand I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:42:46):
Standing here without you being in this world.

Speaker 1 (01:42:49):
You truly influence my life, my direction, everything. It's like, funk,
I bet fans and people say that all the time exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:42:56):
Everybody says that, yeah, so.

Speaker 4 (01:42:58):
We had, uh will, and I I've had you know,
We've been around a lot of people doing doing this
job and stuff like that, and it's been awesome. And
there's all I've always like kind of gone back and
forth and like when I meet somebody, do you do
the photo?

Speaker 3 (01:43:10):
Do you not do the photo?

Speaker 4 (01:43:11):
Like what's the dance that we're gonna get into, because
you're basically evaluating are we going to be friends? Like
is this going to be something that like when you
see us a game, we're right dap up, Hey, good
to see you. And I had a situation where at
UFC and We're sitting right next to Johnny Knoxville and
I'm like, Yo, Johnny fucking Knoxville, Like I love Jackass
growing up. This guy's a hero to me. And I'm

(01:43:31):
sitting there, I'm in I'm in my head like I'm
gonna introduce myself.

Speaker 3 (01:43:34):
I'm not gonna do something on this thing.

Speaker 4 (01:43:35):
He seems like he doesn't want to be bothered and
was like, hey, I can just go up to him
be like you guys should get a photo.

Speaker 3 (01:43:39):
And I'm like, no, no, don't don't do that.

Speaker 4 (01:43:42):
A lower Yeah, I'm my young boy here.

Speaker 3 (01:43:45):
He really wants my head.

Speaker 1 (01:43:46):
I'm like, Yo, this is Johnny Knoxville.

Speaker 4 (01:43:48):
Yeah, it's sick.

Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
Taylor's kind of sitting there.

Speaker 1 (01:43:50):
I'm thinking, I know he sees him like, yeah, we
gotta make this happen.

Speaker 3 (01:43:54):
So we end up not doing anything.

Speaker 4 (01:43:57):
Yeah, and then we were at my house, like on
my birthday, a little banged up, just the two of
us chilling, having this conversation. Yeah, I eat some cold
and I'm like, I can't believe I just sucked that up. Like,
am I gonna be best friends John Knox Will probably not, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:44:09):
He's gonna give a shit who I am.

Speaker 4 (01:44:10):
Probably not, but I could have got the photo yeah
and just be very sick. Yeah, this is awesome. I
got to meet shake your hand, that type of thing,
and I fucked it up. That's that night. That is
actually that night right there.

Speaker 3 (01:44:20):
But it's so hard, Yeah, figure out? Yeah, yeah, is
that the right movie?

Speaker 4 (01:44:25):
This guy's good Will's face right there?

Speaker 3 (01:44:28):
Oh yeah, Literally, I'm looking it down. I'm like, yeah,
I gotta figure this out.

Speaker 4 (01:44:32):
I know when people are going up to Johnny and
he's like doing that and he sits with his wife
or girl, whoever it is, and I'm just like being
a bitch. I'm being a bitch is basically what I'm doing.
And so now I don't Yeah, I've officially changed my stance. Yeah,
exactly where a UFC this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:44:48):
Yeah, that's got like an intimidating aura.

Speaker 4 (01:44:50):
Yes, But like Mike Tyson, will you walk into this
Like Dana White, he has like this room that his
guests come into, So we like going there, yeah, and
Mike Tyson sitting there and I'm like, I go, well,
I'm going to just myself to Mike, you want to
come with He's like yeah, So we walk over there.

Speaker 3 (01:45:03):
Shake his hand.

Speaker 4 (01:45:04):
He stood up. Yeah, tough watching him stand up. I
can't believe you just fought Jack kid. But like he
shook her hand and I was like, hey, go appreciate
you man. We'll see you later. And then Dip got
the fuck out of there, and it was like is
that so hard? No?

Speaker 3 (01:45:15):
No, yeah, no it's not exactly. And so I've learned
a lot in my day. Yeah, yeah, it's hard to Yeah,
it's like, shit, I may never be in the same
room again, right as well, Just like you know, even
if you don't the picture thing, just know that, hell
I should Mike Tyson's hand.

Speaker 4 (01:45:29):
Right, that's all. That's pretty cool. Is there a person
you haven't met yet that you're like, this is my
white buffalo?

Speaker 3 (01:45:36):
That's good. Hank Junior will be one Williams Junior.

Speaker 4 (01:45:42):
Have you met Willie No?

Speaker 3 (01:45:44):
That's yeah, another great one. Yeah, would be an awesome one.

Speaker 4 (01:45:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:45:48):
Huge.

Speaker 4 (01:45:48):
I mean he's like ninety two years old, right, Yeah,
and he's still playing music.

Speaker 3 (01:45:52):
Yeah, still out there.

Speaker 4 (01:45:53):
I saw some.

Speaker 3 (01:45:55):
Bus probably that's probably what he wants to happen.

Speaker 4 (01:45:58):
And also that's a hell of a shoutout for my marijuana.

Speaker 3 (01:46:00):
Yeah. Yeah, how abut y'all marijuana.

Speaker 4 (01:46:03):
You guys kept this man functioning for so long, but
there was a thing that came out. He was in
Arizona for something this past weekend. He had a seven
minute standing ovation. Yeah, there's a photo of him like crying.

Speaker 3 (01:46:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:46:13):
It's like, but this dude's life is incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:46:16):
Insane, dude, Yeah, that's one. I did get some friends
with his son, Lucas Nelson, who's also great, great artist,
great singer. Anyway, he uh, he texted me one time
we were last year. We were doing an old song.
Gary P. Nunn wrote last Thing I Needed, First Thing
this morning, one of my favorite Willie Nelson songs. Uh,

(01:46:38):
we were covering that in our show and Lucas texted
me one day and he's like, man, I showed your
cover to my dad. I just wanted to know he
thought you did a really good job on it, and
he liked it a lot. And it's like, damn, that's cool.
That's really check this out exactly. Yeah, So hopefully I
would love to get to meet him. Obviously, that'd be yeah,

(01:46:59):
him and Ain't Junior. That'd be about It's yeah, I
don't know all the old guys, that's who I want
to want. Yeah. Stapleton was another big one. Christ Apleton.
I hadn't met him to uh, just at the a
c MS back in what was that March, I guess,
mm hmm, yeah, no it wasn't. Was that last month April?
Yeah or May? Anyway, Yeah, he was like I hadn't.

(01:47:25):
I've seen him a couple of times just in passing
and kind of done the thing where it's like, man,
I really going to be another guy because anyway, but
I went up to him. He was super nice, him
and his wife Morgan. But yeah, that was that was
a cool one. I've been a big, big fan.

Speaker 4 (01:47:39):
Of someone that does an amazing job of doing the
shameless thing like hey, I don't care, like I'm a
big fan of you.

Speaker 3 (01:47:44):
Is jelly Roll.

Speaker 4 (01:47:46):
He was so great at like your gratitude and going
to people be like yo, just so you know, you're
the fucking man. Yeah, and it's like jolly, you're jelly
roll right, Yeah, exactly, And that's that. That's a cat
that I feel like, does it does it the right way?

Speaker 3 (01:47:57):
I feel like a lot of those guys get to
uh like those you know, some of those top guys
in the genre or in probably just in music in
general or just whatever any kind of like level of fame.
At some point there's some realization that it's like, hey, yeah,
we're all Yeah, I hang out with a bunch of
famous people, but we're all there's people too, so it's

(01:48:19):
just like, yeah, I'm gonna go say hi, Like right, uh,
I was just gonna say somebody. Oh. Luke Combs was
one that was just like I saw him. I went
to the CMA's for the first time last fall and
I'd seen him kind of across the room and wasn't
gonna go bother him anyway. He ended up coming up
to me. It was just yeah, cool as can be.
It was just like, dude, heard your stuff, love it,

(01:48:41):
you sound great, and it's like yeah, dude, it's yeah,
it's so awesome. And yeah, I've been a fan of
him for a long time. Yeah, so I don't know, Yeah,
it's it's a funny. Yeah, at some point you just
gotta we're all doing the same thing. Yeah, you're not gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:48:59):
It's like, yeah, think of how you felt when like
Luke or somebody tells you that. It's like they're probably
feeling the same thing that you come up out of
their way or tell us about something to how you've
kind of like imprinted on them and kind of influenced them.
Out of all the people that you've named, who would
you want to you have an actual like conversation with

(01:49:19):
If you guys are sitting down, unbothered, uninterrupted, you're having
a couple of beers.

Speaker 4 (01:49:23):
Oh this is that if you could have dinner with anybody,
who would it be?

Speaker 3 (01:49:26):
Oh sure, yeah, yeah man, I'm Alan or George would
be pretty awesome. You have a question that you would ask.
That's a good question.

Speaker 1 (01:49:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:49:43):
Nice know, I like we figured out we're doing it
right on the show.

Speaker 3 (01:49:52):
I don't know, it just be you know it just
it'd be nice to have more than you know, three
minutes to just here in this golf Thank you Yeah, yeah,
exactly to yeah, sit down and have enough time to
sit and have dinner. It's like, I don't know, we
both love this music so much, obviously we'd have some
things in common, and you know, could just it just

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be fun to you know, even not get into a
bunch of you know, deep questions about, man, how did
you handle the fame or the success or whatever it is,
which I would love to ask that kind of stuff too.
And you know, in both those guys too, had you know,
uh great family life and stuff as far as you
know anybody from the outside can see. And that's cool
to to me. Uh see and Denise, Yeah, shout out Denise, Amen,

(01:50:37):
and uh yeah, and so you know, just yeah, little
things like that, just having navigated life and how do
you be so damn cool and still sell out when
you're seventy years old? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:50:49):
Then they bring a Game of Thrones and you're like
you watch.

Speaker 3 (01:50:51):
That, yeah, and you're like, that's my favorite Sea eight
right exactly exactly, damn you think Shane Hells just what
is that about? Little one said fucking in front of
his kids?

Speaker 4 (01:51:08):
Yeah, that was part of the intro. Yeah, dude, when
I foud that Okay, it's all right. I'm an open book.
When I did that, I was telling my wife the
story about the pitch, and she's in the car with
the kids, and she's like, hey, I'm in the car
blah bla blah. I hear the kids talking. But then
I get into telling the story and I'm like, so
fucking honey, I'm telling you, and I just hear my

(01:51:30):
daughter go, dad, fucking is a bad word. I'm like, no, no,
I forgot you were here. She's seven, she turns eight
in July, and she's a she's a sweetheart. But she
caught me saying that one time too. So my daughter,
she's always on this, like she loves to sneak around
on the prowl, like hide and try to scale. I'm
always like, I always like hide around corners and scare

(01:51:51):
them so they try to get me. And she was
hiding in our room and something happened at her house,
like and I was on some bullshit old dad stuff.
I'm like, this fucking bullship, like you know, one of those.
And that was the first time I heard her say
fucking because she walks up she has daddy. She was
like hiding and then comes out of the woodword to go,
Daddy was fucking me and I'm like, oh, and then

(01:52:13):
we're talking about pivot, the ducking and all these other things.
And I have this video for I'll show you after
the show of her being like, yeah, Dad's always like
this fucking tattoo or this this fucking girl over here,
and she say it like just the same exact inflection
I do. I ain't no run away from this one
man that is tough parent.

Speaker 3 (01:52:31):
Tough parent.

Speaker 1 (01:52:32):
Have you ever brought uh the family band out at
one of your shows?

Speaker 5 (01:52:36):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:52:38):
If you should?

Speaker 3 (01:52:39):
No, Yeah, I have not before. I think that would rip.

Speaker 1 (01:52:42):
Yeah my what sr mom being dead ass serious, like
the fan that got together at a young age.

Speaker 3 (01:52:49):
So he's laughing, dead ass serious. They should do that.
They should do that.

Speaker 1 (01:52:57):
Like, if you're in a spot to where you get
to this level, you have the ability to do it,
and you had this family band that you guys did
through church and everything else, you went off. You're doing
your thing. Everybody's doing their thing, and it's like you're
at this point and you're so grassroots.

Speaker 3 (01:53:11):
Are you laughing back there? Again? This is supposed to
be kind of podcasting. Are we doing good? If they're
la living on the back.

Speaker 1 (01:53:21):
But I'm just like, I couldn't be saying, bro, I
could be banged up talking about this right now. But
to have the entire full circle moment where you're at
this level and the family comes back and everybody knows
you because you're more grassroots. Everybody's watched you go and
they know the story about you and the family and
the fans playing at the concert like that would bring
a tear to my eye.

Speaker 4 (01:53:42):
That would be awesome. And it's just thinking about them, like, well,
whoever's opening for you? And you're looking and you're a
whole the guitar. You've done this a thousand times now,
and you're like, I feel pretty good about this. If
you look at the rest of your family, their pants
like literally shaking, like okay, there's seventeen thousand people had
a little that's told you just had your arm up.

Speaker 2 (01:54:04):
Up here.

Speaker 3 (01:54:04):
Yeah, yeah, you guys want to get paid do that?
See what he's doing. That would be awesome. I did
have one of the times I played on the opry,
my sister Maddie, the fiddle player there. Uh, she came
up and played a couple of my songs with me.
Sang harmony and played fiddle on it and stuff. So
that's pretty fun.

Speaker 4 (01:54:22):
Yeah, to have her on I was she before that?
What do you mean before like she went up and
did that?

Speaker 3 (01:54:27):
Oh oh yeah, yeah, yeah, she's she got. She never
loved the stage all that much. Hell she if she
wanted to do it. She's a better singer than I am.
But yeah, she was never that big into the Uh yeah,
I guess the stage thing. I think she gets a
little up tight, little stage, fast, little stage. Yeah, for sure,
for sure. But she killed it. She great. You've seen that.

Speaker 4 (01:54:49):
Luke Colmbs he does a fantasy football league every year
and the loser of the fantasy football he has to
come up on stage and sing with him.

Speaker 1 (01:54:56):
Oh that's fun.

Speaker 3 (01:54:57):
Oh she heard about that. Yeah, I just I don't
know if it just like a bunch of his old
buddiest Yeah, and it's.

Speaker 4 (01:55:02):
Like all his boys from back Georgia wherever he's from,
and then he gets them on stage and they have to.

Speaker 3 (01:55:06):
Sing if he loses.

Speaker 4 (01:55:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:55:09):
That's a good question. With the tour, Yeah, I don't know.
That's a great question.

Speaker 1 (01:55:15):
Take all the money from one show and give it
to that show and give it to all the.

Speaker 3 (01:55:18):
W Yeah, split it up every time on Sunday exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:55:25):
That's awesome, Opry, dude, playing the Grand Ole Opry. I
had the opportunity to walk on that stage and introduce
a couple of my friends and it's intimidating Ernest and
Jolly Rowl.

Speaker 3 (01:55:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:55:37):
So I went out there and did that, and I
thought I'd been there before, but I had it. And
it's like some guys showing me around about all the
history that's taking place, Like you walk in Dolly Parton's
outfits there, which, by the way, she gets me on
the chee one time. Yeah, and I go and say,
there's me right there.

Speaker 3 (01:55:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:55:51):
I go on stage and it's like everyone's kind of like,
I guess, like this is a normal thing for the Opery,
but everyone's like, oh, very nice, good song, all right,
there's not a whole lot of like everyone's just there
to enjoy the music, and it's such a hollowed ground
like were you usually. Was there a different level of
nerves for that compared to something like maybe last night
doing Nissan Stadium.

Speaker 3 (01:56:07):
Yeah, dude, Yeah, the first time I did the Opery,
you know, it kept it's kept on getting more and
more comfortable as I've done it a bunch of times. Uh,
but the yeah, the first time, I was very very uptight.
I don't like, I hardly remember the first time. It's
just my mind was going a million miles an hour,
and like, you know, I think my heart was probably
doing three hundred beats a minute for about three hours

(01:56:29):
uh after that. But yeah, there's definitely you know, it's
that that is uh, the you know, the longest standing
country music kind of iconic show like that. It's everybody
has come through there and you know, stood in that
circle and played that stage, and.

Speaker 4 (01:56:45):
The circle is so crazy. So on that stage they
have like a circle from the original Yeah exactly, Yeah,
used to the rhyming. Then when they tore down or
did whatever they kept the Rhyman got flooded. So everybody, yeah,
you go, you do really, Yes, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:56:59):
Right, I flooded, right, Okay, yeah, yeah, Ryman got flooded.
And so yeah, anyway, some yeah somewhere along then built
their own grand old opry house out there, Aubrey Mills
or whatever. But anyway, yes, took some of the stage
wood from the old Rhyman stage and have it in there.
So it's yeah, you're literally, you know, standing there where

(01:57:22):
Buck Owens and Patsy Klein and you know, just all
of music history has come through there, and it's wild
and nuts.

Speaker 1 (01:57:32):
Yeah, that's cool man, the history and.

Speaker 3 (01:57:34):
It's just wild. Yeah. I told they walked me through
it before I went up and played my songs, and
they asked me if I wanted to go up there
and stand up there and get a picture, and I
was like, no, I'm I'm not going to stand in
there until I sing. And I had like this weird,
little superstitious kind of reverence for it, kind of before
I actually got up there and did my until then

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that ye had to walk in there.

Speaker 4 (01:57:57):
Do you have any pre concerts superstitions at all?

Speaker 3 (01:58:01):
Not really? Hum have a cocktail, I have a cigarette,
all good things. Yeah, I the only one. I have these, uh,
you know, darn tough socks. Uh three ad, I guess
I have no deal with darn toff socks.

Speaker 4 (01:58:19):
No free shadows and sorry, yeah up the sock game.

Speaker 3 (01:58:24):
But go on, dude, Uh they have these. There's this
pair there. They're white socks. It's just regular socks. They're
white and they got a nice little blue and red
strip a on the top, just like kind of a
classic looking old sock. And for some reason, I love
those socks. And I've got to have a fresh pair
of darn tough socks too, to where when it's like

(01:58:45):
a big shows, I gotta have a crisp white pair
of those. It's gonna be a good show.

Speaker 4 (01:58:49):
If you don't get that is crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:58:52):
There they are right there. They don't call with a seven.

Speaker 4 (01:58:54):
Figure back every big show I had. Yeah, my don't.
My voice doesn't feel right unless I have a pair
of Darantel socks red white and blue.

Speaker 3 (01:59:05):
For dar'nt tell you. I was just winking that camera.

Speaker 4 (01:59:07):
We'll cut it all up for you.

Speaker 1 (01:59:09):
No, darn tell you do not have these rights. You
do not have these rights.

Speaker 3 (01:59:13):
Yeah, bust with the voice.

Speaker 4 (01:59:15):
We do not give you the right to use that
clip until you pay our boy in a finder sweet
for busting with the boys. Yeah, because that's people helping people.
Rising tide left all man. What's it like out on
the road, just a good blaze?

Speaker 3 (01:59:29):
Yes, what's it like? I love it?

Speaker 4 (01:59:31):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:59:31):
How many times would you say you yank it on the.

Speaker 3 (01:59:33):
Road's gonna see you.

Speaker 4 (01:59:39):
For football players, there's that whole thing like Wednesday. After Wednesday,
i'n't doing nothing. The lady tries to come out to me.
It's like, sweetheart, I gotta keep this pent up. I'll
see you Sunday night.

Speaker 1 (01:59:47):
Do you use a different darntail sock? It's my big show.
This my yank this is the bigger show on.

Speaker 3 (01:59:56):
Oh my god, dude, it's such a weird I don't
know how. It's a job a lot of times, and
it is. It's a lot of work. It's it's tiring
and it'll wear you out. Uh, but it's it does
feel like we're still you know, back in the day
we're running around in my pickup truck and a horse
trailer or a van and all our gear piled in

(02:00:17):
this fifteen passenger van. Uh. And but it's still you know,
and now we're rolling around on a couple of buses.
But it's still kind of the same. We're just a
bunch of idiots out here running around playing music. And
the my whole band is like, well, most of my
bands people I've known for a long long time. So
we're like, it's not I didn't get to Nashville and
you know, hire some dudes in black T shirts to

(02:00:37):
do my show that I don't actually hang out with.
So we've got a great uh, it feels like a
good family vibe on the road. Everything it's along, we
all have. Yeah, it's just it's a it's a party
every night. It's I don't know, I wonder if it'll
ever like slow down, uh, because you know, you see
older artists now or the you know, like Dark Bentley,

(02:00:58):
we're out with him. You know, he won't spend time
with this. He's got kids, you know, they're getting to
be teenagers and stuff, so he wants to spend time
with his family. He flies into the show and flies
back out, you know, so he can spend time with
his family. It's not as much of the and he
still goose off and you know, spends plenty of time
on the road with his boys too. But I wonder,
I assume probably at some point, you know, I want

(02:01:18):
to have a family too, and so at some point
I'm sure we'll, uh, we'll slow down just a little
bit and try to spend more time at home. Right now,
it's literally, you know, I get wore out and I
think I want some time off, and then three days
into time off, I'm just like it's time to get
back out on the road.

Speaker 1 (02:01:34):
Yeah, and you know, just go to the road dog mentality.

Speaker 3 (02:01:37):
Yeah, drink tequila lemonade and smoke SIGs with the boys.

Speaker 4 (02:01:41):
What a time. Yeah, I mean, can't beat better. You
hit thirty, I'm gonna, as you know right now that it hurts.

Speaker 3 (02:01:47):
Yeah, I'm getting close.

Speaker 1 (02:01:49):
I'm on in a decade back. I'm cold tubbing now.

Speaker 3 (02:01:51):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Everybody those.

Speaker 4 (02:01:58):
Cold tub on or with electro lights, Yeah yeah, everybody.

Speaker 3 (02:02:03):
Yeah, there's always everybody first gets the little taste of
it and gets out on the road and they party
hard and then yeah, they hit like thirty five and
all of a sudden they're carrying around it an Jim
trailer behind their bus and right, yeah, and yeah they
got a cold plunge out there and they go find
a sauna. And I don't know, part of me thinks
I won't ever get there, But another part of me

(02:02:24):
thinks that I have been two twenty for a little
while now, and I think I could stand to lose
a few so maybe I need to do something different.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:02:32):
Hold it, well, dude, I would have guessed twenty, did you. Uh,
We're not doing it this year? Yeah, but we do
a beer Olympics. Nice and you would be an amazing
addition to when we do the final with the final
Beer Olympics. It's in my backyard.

Speaker 3 (02:02:47):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (02:02:48):
We drink all the beer.

Speaker 3 (02:02:50):
Yeah it is. Oh, I can get down with that.

Speaker 4 (02:02:52):
It is a lot, bro It is a lot of fun.
Like are you yeah you beer games guy at all?
Or you just like this?

Speaker 8 (02:02:57):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (02:02:57):
Yeah, you're sorry? Absolutely?

Speaker 4 (02:02:58):
What's what do you think you're best at? Can you
slam a beer? Can you chug?

Speaker 3 (02:03:04):
Yeah? Not like super fast. I'm pretty I'm a respectable
speed chugger, I think, but I'm not gonna blow anybody
out of the water. A pretty good beer pong player, Okay, yeah,
I don't know. But I mean, you guys are a
bunch of athletes. I mean, I'm you saw my pitch, Yeah, okay,
I think I can. I think I can.

Speaker 5 (02:03:24):
Be.

Speaker 4 (02:03:26):
I didn't see you were racing to pull that clip up?

Speaker 3 (02:03:29):
Yeah, clip up real quickly. Young beers like that, and
you're still all slim down and trimp both of you, guys.
I feel like you both.

Speaker 4 (02:03:39):
Yeah, wake up every day at four in the morning,
all right, we do our journals, We get the cold tub.
We work out for three hours straight that we come
into work.

Speaker 3 (02:03:48):
We don't sleep really, we just.

Speaker 4 (02:03:50):
Get after it. No, man, We just eat relatively okay,
and work out as much as Will's back will let
him and mind they will let me.

Speaker 1 (02:03:57):
Yeah right now?

Speaker 4 (02:03:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:03:59):
Really yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:04:01):
Well I love a lot too physically, Okay, So I
appreciate the I have a long road.

Speaker 3 (02:04:06):
I have a long sure, a lot of progress.

Speaker 4 (02:04:08):
You should have seen the neck on this guy when
he was playing like it.

Speaker 3 (02:04:11):
Was all nineteen piece. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:04:12):
Yeah, we're like shriveled seventeen Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:04:17):
Is that your circumference? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:04:22):
So this is this is the first event of beer Olympics.
So what we do is it's a boot. So it's
thirty six ounces of beer yep, and we chug it
and you do your time and your partner's time, and
then we'll you go seating after that first top three
scores get points and then we go right in the
beer bong or beer pong yep.

Speaker 3 (02:04:38):
After that, What are the other events? What else do we.

Speaker 4 (02:04:41):
We'll do flip cup, beer ball.

Speaker 3 (02:04:43):
You I'm so bad at flip cup really yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:04:46):
That's you could easily just go chick game, don't eat it.

Speaker 3 (02:04:49):
Yeah, like a lot of people exactly. Everyone's always like
a flip cup.

Speaker 4 (02:04:52):
All you do, flip club.

Speaker 3 (02:04:53):
That's for that's for the lads to have fun. Yeah,
it's I kind of yeah, I kind of a good time.
It's electric when it like, yeah, you get a tight
game and yeah uh yes going down the line. But yeah,
I'm not very good at it. What is beer ball?

Speaker 4 (02:05:07):
So I love it? You ass? So you have on
the tables the four corners. You put a beer on
each corner. So will and I be partners?

Speaker 3 (02:05:14):
You partners.

Speaker 4 (02:05:15):
I would throw my ball at one of your cans.
Once it hits the can, he's got to start drinking
his beer drinking. You have to retrieve the ball and
put it back on the table. He can drink until
that ball is back on the table.

Speaker 1 (02:05:27):
Race and toutch you back on the table. I have
to stop first, want to finish their two beers? Is
the victor that game?

Speaker 3 (02:05:32):
Right?

Speaker 1 (02:05:32):
There is a lot of room for arguments, a lot.

Speaker 4 (02:05:35):
Of especially when that's like one of the later games,
because you chugged at thirty six ounces right there. Oh yeah,
so you're all different people. Yeah from the moment.

Speaker 3 (02:05:42):
That absolutely absolutely, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:05:45):
Get at the end, and I'd be like that, go play, yeah,
you play some songs.

Speaker 4 (02:05:51):
One, yeah, it gets a guitar throws, there's something, yeah,
it gets it gets rowdy, man, I love it. It
all started with like to o t as in college,
we would do a case race, so like after the
first scrimmage every year, we would all get together as
a team, you and me a case who could finish
at the fastest. And then we did beer Olympics my

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you know, fifth or sixth year in the league, and
it was me and the whole un all the offensive
linemen just go to my house. We would get crazy.
The next time we filmed it. This could be a
little something right here. And so we've done it three
times now, two times for real. We're like really taking
it serious. And then this year it was like there's
too much going on?

Speaker 3 (02:06:30):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (02:06:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:06:31):
Is it a bunch of bunch of athletes guys that
you all know, or is it mostly just and.

Speaker 4 (02:06:37):
Comedians Like those two guys those are offensive linemen from Michigan,
the two girls over there there with barstool.

Speaker 3 (02:06:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:06:44):
And then you had we had Shane. We had yea
jelly roll. He just comes gets everybody.

Speaker 3 (02:06:53):
And then we had this year.

Speaker 4 (02:06:55):
Yeah, Dustin Lynch came, who was hilarious walk.

Speaker 3 (02:07:00):
Yeah. Has there been any big surprise yet that you
uh you didn't know they beard that hard.

Speaker 4 (02:07:06):
I I was more surprised that, yeah, Will Common does
beer hard.

Speaker 1 (02:07:11):
I was.

Speaker 4 (02:07:12):
I was very surprised at how bad Shane and Bert were.

Speaker 3 (02:07:16):
Really.

Speaker 4 (02:07:16):
Yeah there like the the bosers. Yeah, like they are
the guys that are coming. They show up twenty minutes late.
Respect it, do your thing. We're going for the chunk.
Shane actually, he can choke a beer. He can put
a beer down. Sure, he fucking he. It's like me
with the first patch. He just the moment was too
big for him.

Speaker 3 (02:07:31):
He started starts like.

Speaker 4 (02:07:31):
Getting in his nose. Bert can drink beer all day
but can't do anything.

Speaker 1 (02:07:36):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, And Shane Shane was playing that
I'm too cool for this hole.

Speaker 4 (02:07:40):
Yeah yeah yeah. And they're half assed in his flip
cub like yeah, not taking seriously.

Speaker 3 (02:07:45):
Yeah, look, do you guys have me there? I will
I will be going hard. I will take it seriously.

Speaker 4 (02:07:51):
So if you can one partner, you can pay anybody
in the world to be your partner.

Speaker 1 (02:07:55):
Who's going to be Oh wow, that's a good in
the world that you know.

Speaker 3 (02:08:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Uh dude, I don't know I fit
my piano player, David. Uh, he's a he's a pretty
uh party hardy kind of guys. Oh yeah he could.
And he's he's good at yeah, like some stupid little
beer games like that and stuff too. Yeah he could

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definitely know. I feel like we need their can delete
a beer. Yes, he absolutely maybe, yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:08:28):
Maybe Luke would be could be shotgunning.

Speaker 3 (02:08:31):
Yeah, yeah he was shot.

Speaker 4 (02:08:33):
I love to throw my hat in the ring against
when I come out right now.

Speaker 3 (02:08:37):
Need some comp world. Yeah, you kind of undisputed champ
on the chug Huh.

Speaker 4 (02:08:43):
Yeah, I've never lost. I've never lost. It was funny
two years ago they did the Kelsey Brothers. They found
out we were doing the Olympics, so they held their
own event in the same day. Yeah, and there was
a video of Jason Kelsey doing it, and so the
boys shout out my boys back there. They put our
videos back to back and I had him out there nice. Yeah,
and Shane, Shane's always been he's a good beer chugger.

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But yeah, no one's really come close. Yeah, it's been
a it's been a gift for a long time. I
love it for a very long time.

Speaker 3 (02:09:10):
Man, he I love it.

Speaker 4 (02:09:11):
You talk about your piano player, how like these are
all your boys? Yeah? How long have they been with.

Speaker 2 (02:09:15):
You, Dave?

Speaker 3 (02:09:16):
I've known him for uh ten, ten eleven years or something, Okay.

Speaker 4 (02:09:21):
So we got some history.

Speaker 3 (02:09:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. And then it's funny so they him,
his brother is the bass player, and the bass player's
wife is the acoustic guitar player. So it's a whole
family affair. They all came up playing bluegrass stuff too.
They had like family bluegrass bands and stuff. Uh. And
so that was kind of how we met originally, and
then they decided to you know, fall along and do

(02:09:44):
the country thing with me too. And then my still
player and drummer are guys that I've met more recently.
They've been you know, Nashville area pros for a long time,
but they're you know, they it feels like I've known
them forever too. It's a yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:10:00):
Has there been a time where it's like bands in
a tough spot, big arguments in the bus or anything
like that, Some guys like I'm fucking out of here.
The two of the husband and wife there were a
big fight she get a show up tonight.

Speaker 3 (02:10:11):
I don't know. Yeah, no, not really. Uh. I think
probably Dave is the most problematic one. He's the he's
the best one. Everybody loves him, and then he's kind
of just a child. He like we're going out for
like a six day run and he brings two pairs
of underwear and one sock, and so then he's like

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back there in my closet, like, hey man, you got
a extra shirt I can wear for the show tonight.
I don't have a shirt. So like he's but it's
all very lovable, just like Dave, you jackass. You know,
why do you got to be this way? But you
know you kind of wouldn't have it any other way.

Speaker 4 (02:10:50):
Good vibes only it sounds like, yeah it.

Speaker 3 (02:10:52):
Is, there's there's no bad apples. Yeah, it's pretty awesome.

Speaker 1 (02:10:56):
You're a fan of a Colorado Buffalo?

Speaker 3 (02:11:01):
Not really, what is it? No? No, no, no at
all that I'm I'm a fan. Yeah, my sister is
my oldest sister. That's stealing Boulder. She hates him, Oh
yeah yeah she. I mean her whole take on it
is that he doesn't. He's just a good recruiter. He's

(02:11:22):
not a good coach. It's just you know, it's Deion Sanders,
so people are going to want to come play for him.

Speaker 1 (02:11:26):
I turned it around pretty good for that program where
they were.

Speaker 3 (02:11:29):
Yeah, that's what I think. It's just like, hell, nobody
gave a ship about see you football games until he
showed up. I never went to one while I was
there at school and stuff was playing.

Speaker 4 (02:11:41):
So are you familiar with Shador and Travis?

Speaker 3 (02:11:44):
Yeah? Yeah, how do you know?

Speaker 8 (02:11:46):
What?

Speaker 4 (02:11:46):
Did you follow Shador in the draft process or anything
like that?

Speaker 3 (02:11:50):
No, man, I get after the football season is done.
I'm just pretty move on to college basketball very quickly.
And then it's golf for me. Big golf guy. We
watch a lot of golf on the on the bus peaceful.
Who are you guys? Who are you? Uh? Well, I'm
so I've become buddies with Chandler Phillips. It's his second

(02:12:13):
year on tour. I guess he played at A and M.
He's uh so, I mean he's I guess in up
and coming ish the tour guy. Whatever, he's he's crazy.
He's really really good. Chandler Phillips is his name. I
actually got to uh that was one of the cool
sporting moments that I've gotten to do so far at
the Waste Management Uh what a time? Oh god. Yeah. Yeah,

(02:12:39):
we got hired to do a little private gig there
early in the week while the practice rounds are still
going anyway, and so they gave us, oh yeah, they're
a down there, So they gave us some tickets to
the to sit at the sixteenth and hang out there
all day before the show. And so I texted Chandler
it was like, hey, dude, make sure you play the

(02:13:01):
back nine today on your practice round. I'm gonna be
on the sixteenth. And He's like, shit, dude, I'll get
you a pass. Just come walk the course with me.
And I was like, I can do that. They'll let
me do that and anyway, and then I was like,
well I didn't. I don't have like golf clothes. Do
I need to go get some, you know, proper attire
or Whatever's like, no, dude, wear your jeans out there.

(02:13:22):
So there am walking around in air Forces and Starts
jeans and a button down shirt like an idiot. But anyway,
I got to walk with Gary Woodland, who was super nice,
and then Lee Hodges too, who I guess knew who
I was and was a fan of stuff too, And
he's not far from it. He lives just down in Huntsville, Alabama.

(02:13:43):
But yeah, that was one of the coolest, coolest experiences
I've done walking the whole course.

Speaker 4 (02:13:49):
Isn't it crazy being the world you're at and then
having access in these other worlds like golf? Yes, like
is that not It's mind blowing.

Speaker 3 (02:13:55):
It's so fun. Yeah, that's one of the like I
don't think I ever really thought of that when I
was trying to like make it in music, But that's
one of the most fun things to me now is
how the yeah, the entertainment world in the sports world,
uh combined very quickly. Yeah, it's badass. Like I'm buddies
with John Daily Now that's insane. John Daly, Yeah, the

(02:14:17):
guy is he's so fun fit for a string jacket,
but he's an all time cat. Yeah, all time, Yeah,
all time.

Speaker 4 (02:14:24):
What's what's one thing like you gained access to that
You're like, this is the coolest moment.

Speaker 3 (02:14:32):
That's probably it. Like John Daly facetiming me every few days.
He he just will be in a bar drunk somewhere
and my song comes on or something and he just
calls me up and he's like hey, he calls me son. Uh,
He's like, hey, son, what are you doing? And I
don't know. We're just about to get on stage or whatever,

(02:14:54):
and he's like, well, just wanted to let you know
your dad loves you. To you. It's like, that's what
I needed to hear before this ship. Yeah, dude, it's
it's the freaking best. His story is so incredible.

Speaker 4 (02:15:06):
I'm not a golf guy, but hearing about him, yeah,
being like one of the just in case guys and
they're helping it and winning. That's how the whole thing started. Insane, insane, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:15:16):
Yeah, that's yeah. And now I guess there's uh Cal Rawley,
uh Mariner's star Seattle Mariners. I don't know who that is. Yeah,
that's all good. Sorry, Cal, I know who you are.
He's like leading the league in homers right now or something.
Oh Cal, Yeah, yeah, anyway, anyway, I guess he uses

(02:15:37):
one of my songs, bad Luck for his walk up song. Now.
And so they invited me out to one of the games.
Oh we're gonna be playing up in Washington and August,
I guess it is. They invited me at two games,
you know, cool stuff like that. I went to Mariners
games when I was like five years old, and uh,
you know, so then getting that, I don't know, Yeah,
it's just cool. Yeah, you guys.

Speaker 4 (02:15:57):
With your with your name on the back. It's like, Yo,
this is what this is awesome.

Speaker 3 (02:16:00):
Oh yeah, I've got my wall of shame at the house.
You know. We go play different arenas and stuff, and
they'll make your jerseys. I got like, yeah, I don't know, shoot,
there's probably ten or twelve so far jersey. I got
them all hung up and they'll just say top twenty
five on them. And that was the year that we
played him. But anyway, Yeah, no, I'm not a Seattle

(02:16:21):
teams guy, the Mariners, but I'm kind of a so
I told you when we were talking before King. My
oldest sister went to school out of Mit, so we
kind of became Boston sports fans somehow, probably just because
Seattle sports teams sucked at the time, so it's more
fun to root for the Red Sox and the Bruins

(02:16:42):
and the Patriots and stuff so and the Celtics. But yeah, so,
I like, I don't know, it's kind of a Boston
sports guy for a long time. But I'm still a
Mariners fan for sure, and I'm just a Titans guy now.
Brady retired and I'm yeah, so it's like I kind
of discovered that I wasn't as much a Patriots fan
as I was a Brady guy. So anyway, yeah, I'm

(02:17:05):
a big, big Titans guy. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:17:06):
So when that breakoup between Belichick and Brady was going on,
your heart's torn, Let's just find out who does better.

Speaker 3 (02:17:12):
Yeah, I'll go with yeah. Yeah, that's that's business fandwagon.

Speaker 4 (02:17:17):
So you jumped on the Tampa Bay train for a
year ago. That's okay. Ain't nobody mad at that?

Speaker 3 (02:17:23):
That's very normal. But now I'm a die hard Titans guy.
Die hard? What do we think he wanted me to
play the board? Okay, you know he knows his name.

Speaker 1 (02:17:30):
I'm very excited about it.

Speaker 4 (02:17:33):
I hope he is. It's just I always look at
the You've seen the video of Shador Sanders and him
working out together, and Shador he does rap, and he's like, hey,
we should make a song together, and cam Ward's like, no,
I do football. Like when you google me, it's gonna
say American football and Wikipedia He's that's all I want
to be known for, like having that type of mentality
and hearing guys talk about cam Ward right now. Obviously

(02:17:55):
we're all in underwear right now, We're not no pads,
No one's getting hit. But yeah, the Titans deserve it.
They deserve a quarterback they can they could sit with
for the next ten to fifteen years. Yeah, like this
is our fucking guy.

Speaker 3 (02:18:07):
Yeah, that's what I hope. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:18:08):
And if he's good too, it'll be electric for everybody. Yeah, right,
this dude having a ship, talking, having a celebration.

Speaker 3 (02:18:14):
So I think it'll get everybody.

Speaker 4 (02:18:16):
Nashville deserves a team that crushes. Like you look at
the Predators, what was it sixteen seventeen eighteen. Yeah, yeah,
they were on that sabolical run for a little bit,
like the city rallying around that is unbelievable. The short
stint that we have with the Titans where it was
like you know, yeah eighteen nineteen twenty, Yeah, it was
like people are sucking about it. Yeah yeah, and it's

(02:18:37):
like it's just awesome because the city is the best
part of the city and the worst part about the
city from a sports standpoint is there's so much to do. Yes,
So like, why am I going to go to a
shitty for yeah, ride and go see that top player. Sure,
you know it's a whole.

Speaker 3 (02:18:50):
There's three shows a weekend at bridges Stone Arena and right,
yeah absolutely so they.

Speaker 4 (02:18:55):
If war can be who we think he's gonna be, Yeah, dude,
it'll be.

Speaker 3 (02:19:00):
I'm so excited for it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:19:02):
So when you moved here, you're just like, hey, this
is my team.

Speaker 3 (02:19:03):
Oh Brady retired yeah yeah yeah kind of that, and
it's just like, all right, I'm here. I'm not going
to be a bandwagon guy anymore. This is home now.
So we play just gonna Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:19:12):
So this team goes oh in seventeen, you're still playing
to fly?

Speaker 2 (02:19:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:19:15):
Absolutely right. I need to get me a yeah yeah,
I got a uh, I got a Tannehill jersey. I
wanted Tannehill to work, so any I mean he did,
he played well and stuff in that little run, but
just wasn't quite that. It seemed like it was gonna
be the like he spent that little time down in
Miami and just didn't work there and then came up

(02:19:37):
here and it was like I got the Derek he
anything working and this could happen. And so I got
my Tannehill jersey. I guess I'll have to give me
a dang. I never had a tailor one jersey.

Speaker 4 (02:19:45):
That's okay, that's all right. Sorry, they were available at
one point, so respect the sevenths, so you could have
done it. Yeah, respect the seven.

Speaker 3 (02:19:54):
I got a couple of the closet.

Speaker 4 (02:19:56):
I'll send you on perfect.

Speaker 1 (02:19:57):
Yeah, we were to get a can Wre jersey.

Speaker 3 (02:20:00):
I know. That's yeah, That's what I'm thinking. Yeah, we'll
see hopefully, yeah, hopefully, Like you said, a long term guy,
because yeah, I don't know, I hate it's funny. Yeah,
I'm gonna sound like a real old sports dat now
that just like how much people move around. I feel
like every year I don't pay too much attention in
the off season to all the moves and stuff, and
so every year the first week comes around and I'm like,

(02:20:22):
who in the hell is on you know whatever team?

Speaker 4 (02:20:25):
Now?

Speaker 3 (02:20:26):
Exactly kind of catch up with wherever we got with
these boys? Man, no loyalty to take a little bit
more money, huh yeah yeah exactly, ye yeah Jones, Now.

Speaker 4 (02:20:41):
Nice, exactly should we hit our tier?

Speaker 5 (02:20:43):
Talk?

Speaker 4 (02:20:44):
All right, so we all know you're a massive fan
of the show. But just for the people that are
watching for the first time, I'm gonna explain tear Talk.
We're gonna go honor will mentioned if you got it,
tier three, two and one one being obviously the best.
The category is going to be love songs. Okay, you
can take a minute think about the songs you're gonna have,
and then we can we can go into it. And

(02:21:05):
if you're like, hey, I got four or five that
I actually don't know where to put where you can.

Speaker 3 (02:21:08):
Put a couple honorable mentions in there.

Speaker 4 (02:21:10):
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Speaker 3 (02:22:10):
Nine to five? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:22:11):
Exactly if you close the cabin door, miss exactly.

Speaker 3 (02:22:16):
Oh my god, it is. That's such a funny like
juxtaposition for country music specifically because it is like the
the blue collar.

Speaker 1 (02:22:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:22:25):
Just I'm out here working trying to make it.

Speaker 3 (02:22:27):
Exactly.

Speaker 4 (02:22:27):
Where do I want steak tonight?

Speaker 3 (02:22:30):
Yeah? Exact? Exactly what's in catering tonight? Yeah? Exactly, the
third catered meal of the day.

Speaker 4 (02:22:37):
Do you do you feel like you'll run out of
things to write about? If you just keep on the
checter you're at right now, your life's gonna get more
and more awesome.

Speaker 3 (02:22:46):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 4 (02:22:48):
You know you're not gonna be doing laundry. Yeah, somebody
do that clean your house. I'll leave the socks there.
The cleaners will get it.

Speaker 3 (02:22:54):
Yeah, you know it kind of disgusts me. Yeh, like fanactly,
it's getting that way. Uh, I don't do ship anymore.
It's yeah, that's a good question. I feel like right now,
it's like I'm getting older and he's just killing I
feel like I'm like getting older and so like I

(02:23:14):
keep on, you know, having a little more life experience
and have some more stuff to write about because of that.
You know, everybody, I don't know, they start having kids
or something and they start writing, you know, kind of
songs about having kids a little bit. And Luke Colmbs
is big and in that world right now. Uh so,
I guess that's but yeah, it's a weird thing to
at least before it was like, hell, I was working construction.

(02:23:36):
It's like I can relate with the people that are
listening to music. Right.

Speaker 1 (02:23:42):
He starts to get a little nervous abou him running.
I'm running ont of material than just his next girlfriend's
like you marry meney.

Speaker 3 (02:23:50):
He's been like three weeks.

Speaker 4 (02:23:52):
You don't coming up that we got to do something there.

Speaker 3 (02:23:56):
Let's have a kid.

Speaker 4 (02:23:56):
Let's have a kid with getting married in three weeks?

Speaker 1 (02:24:01):
No nothing, well three weeks, not five?

Speaker 3 (02:24:04):
Five? Not five? Yeah five.

Speaker 4 (02:24:07):
My wife and I we got engaged in five weeks.
No ship married in two months?

Speaker 3 (02:24:11):
What? Uh? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:24:15):
We got an old though.

Speaker 3 (02:24:17):
No, this is your wife now.

Speaker 4 (02:24:21):
Yep, still there, still live.

Speaker 3 (02:24:26):
With you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (02:24:28):
God, I fall down the stairs so many times. Really,
she can handle herself. No, we've been there for nine years.

Speaker 3 (02:24:34):
Many college. In college.

Speaker 4 (02:24:36):
No, we met here.

Speaker 3 (02:24:38):
We met here.

Speaker 4 (02:24:38):
She was in leapers Fork, Tennessee, and she became friends
with my mom. They stole puppies.

Speaker 1 (02:24:42):
Oh yeah, Taylor got drafted.

Speaker 3 (02:24:44):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:24:45):
Taylor was like all right, yeah, yeah, yeah we but
we met, dude, and I was like, it was a
whole long story. I was dating somebody else and I'm
breaking up with her. Her and I like run away
to l A for six days in San Francisco. Back
in Arizona, there's her. I'm the one on the left.

Speaker 3 (02:24:58):
Though, And yeah, yeah cool.

Speaker 4 (02:25:00):
She she comes down to Arizona and white with a ring.
And we come back to Nashville right before Ota is
and it's like April eighteenth, yeah, twenty sixteen, and we're like, yo,
four twenty, let's.

Speaker 3 (02:25:10):
Get married on four twenty. It'll be funny.

Speaker 4 (02:25:12):
So we just go and get married on four twenty.
And it was at this little church somewhere that's you know,
I could not get you there now, but it's like
in the middle town. It's like Vanderbilt, Bellmont or one
of the two. Sure, and uh yeah, we've been there
for nine years.

Speaker 3 (02:25:24):
We have two kids.

Speaker 4 (02:25:25):
Before my wife's even like we met. It was going
so fast. Even my wife is like, hey, I should
sign a prenup. I should do a prenup. And I'm
like okay, Like I had, like my fantacier team was
like freaking out. My friends were freaking out, and she's
like everyone's gonna think I'm after your money. Let's just
get that locked in so no one can say shit. Yeah,
And I'm like you sure, all right?

Speaker 3 (02:25:45):
You know because like I know the comforting room. Bro.
It's so funny that story.

Speaker 4 (02:25:51):
So I get my lawyers for like, and I walk
into this, you know, the eighteenth floor of this building.
It's all rich mahogany, the porn Scotch and neat at
eleven am, like everyone's got.

Speaker 3 (02:26:00):
Three piece suit on.

Speaker 4 (02:26:02):
We go to her lawyer's offices, Like they're still using
filing cab.

Speaker 5 (02:26:07):
Soon?

Speaker 4 (02:26:07):
Is that some lady that receptionist smoking? We like we
looked back and laughed at all the time.

Speaker 3 (02:26:14):
But it was like a day.

Speaker 4 (02:26:15):
It was so uncomfortable. Bro, the whole thing was I was,
I was a whole yeah, And I was like, I
obviously people tell me about it before, because I told
people twelve days annoying her. I was like, I'm going
to marry this girl. Everyone's like, holy fuck this guy. Yeah, yeah,
he's done. And when she brought it up, it was
like a breath of fresh air. But it was like
even doing the conversation was like so awkward. Now just

(02:26:38):
sit in a safe man a little prenum. Yeah, hang him?

Speaker 3 (02:26:41):
So anyway, crazy onward.

Speaker 4 (02:26:44):
So tear Tear Talk best love Songs. Yeah, spicy tear
Talk presented by Roe top love songs.

Speaker 3 (02:26:51):
Are we talking love making? Oh? I got prepared for
laugh I did a little.

Speaker 4 (02:26:58):
But I don't have love making.

Speaker 3 (02:27:01):
Songs.

Speaker 4 (02:27:03):
I know my word for yours.

Speaker 3 (02:27:05):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (02:27:05):
Also, when we finish our tear talk, will go around
the room and we'll I'll give one word to describe
how we feel about your tear talk. Okay, so mind
for you is going to be horny?

Speaker 3 (02:27:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:27:16):
Do you want me to go first? You go first,
horning my honorable mention. The hamster stopped running.

Speaker 3 (02:27:30):
You acted like you had this already. You're ready, I'm ready, Yes,
do this all right?

Speaker 1 (02:27:38):
My Tier three, my Tier three is going to be.

Speaker 3 (02:27:47):
I'll go give me this first.

Speaker 2 (02:27:50):
This is my dear.

Speaker 1 (02:27:52):
Three is going to be give me that by Webby?

Speaker 3 (02:27:57):
Do you know that song? No? I don't even play
that for ten second? Yeah, girl, give me that. Okay,
we'll go it. Yeah, us a little bit of it?
Will girl? Give me that? You know you want to
go down?

Speaker 1 (02:28:10):
Act like you don't want it, girl, you want it
just as.

Speaker 3 (02:28:12):
Bad as I do. That's beautiful. Tier two and that's love,
and that's love.

Speaker 1 (02:28:20):
Deer two, Lollipop, Wayne, I want to.

Speaker 3 (02:28:25):
Lollipop? Isn't that what that is? That's what it is.
Damn Now I need to free think my list.

Speaker 1 (02:28:31):
My Tier one is gonna be by a poet named
p D. Pablo freakak fucking song.

Speaker 4 (02:28:42):
Sing a little bit for me.

Speaker 1 (02:28:44):
No, because I'll sing the full I'll sing the entire song.

Speaker 4 (02:28:47):
Do we all have the same word?

Speaker 1 (02:28:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:28:49):
We all do do you.

Speaker 4 (02:28:50):
Want your yeah on three one two three horny Yeah,
good job, honey will start off.

Speaker 3 (02:28:59):
Rother right, you're taking off that plan.

Speaker 1 (02:29:01):
We're gonna die something for the graphic though, we should
put uh, we should put the new single because I
think that would be hilarious. Good time, good times.

Speaker 3 (02:29:10):
Lines song for sure.

Speaker 1 (02:29:14):
Dude, Tier three Webby low Way Pablo, very natural plug there.

Speaker 4 (02:29:23):
I try to give everybody a variety and my tier
talk nice. My first honorable mention, I have honor mentions.

Speaker 3 (02:29:31):
Nice.

Speaker 4 (02:29:32):
My first time I mentioned is if it Means a
Lot to You. That's by a band called a Data.
Remember it's about two people. They're in love. They end
up breaking up in the end, but it's still a
love song. Fun fact, you were married at one point.
I was engaged to a different woman at one point.

Speaker 3 (02:29:46):
Really yes.

Speaker 4 (02:29:47):
We used to get high in my four taurus in
high school and listen to the song all the time.
And before every game I listened to the song. Wow,
I would think about her and tear up and think,
this bitch has no idea. I'm still dealing one thing
out here.

Speaker 3 (02:29:57):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (02:29:57):
I hope she's watching this noon game. That's what I
would think. So that is a that was near and
dear to my heart. Based on the guests we have.
My next umble mention goes to a goat Toby Keith.
You shouldn't kiss me like this?

Speaker 3 (02:30:11):
Oh great, kiss me like this? Lets you mean it
like that?

Speaker 4 (02:30:16):
Yeah, because I'll just anyway. That's awesome, beautiful, beautiful song.
My Tier three all the sad boys out there, goes
up to this one hit wonder plain White teas. Hey there,
Delilah nice. What's it like in New York City? Because
I'm a thousand miles away tonight.

Speaker 3 (02:30:31):
He looks so pretty. Bro.

Speaker 1 (02:30:32):
That is so funny because.

Speaker 4 (02:30:34):
I'm in the middle of I'm in my Tier top. Oh,
the black guys.

Speaker 1 (02:30:37):
Are breaking this down and it was so funny. These
are like white guy talking about white boys in there.

Speaker 3 (02:30:41):
Yeah he was.

Speaker 4 (02:30:42):
You want to talk about really real ship? This my
boy been going through ship? Yeah's as.

Speaker 3 (02:30:49):
California. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:30:52):
My Tier two is going to go to Berry White
practice what you preach? That is a horny song. That's
a love making song right there. And my Tier one,
which I should not have.

Speaker 3 (02:31:02):
Guessed that from the mind. I don't know that song
ractice what you preach?

Speaker 4 (02:31:06):
Yeah, we can play it for a little bit after.
I don't have this voice, so I can't do it. Okay,
my Tier one, which should be a god teer. I
want to take you back to April twelfth, nineteen fourteen,
a ship cruised from Europe to USA. They said the
ship was unsinkable. On that boat was a young man

(02:31:28):
who won tickets on this beautiful ship in a poker game,
Jack Dawson. He met this young rich lady who was
setting sailed to a free land with an abusive fiance,
only to meet each other on the tip of that ship.
And they were flying and a song played, and that

(02:31:48):
song is My Heart Will Go On by Celine dion Yea.

Speaker 3 (02:31:51):
That is my tier talk magical dude.

Speaker 4 (02:31:55):
Now we'll go run the rope.

Speaker 2 (02:32:01):
You want to give us one word, I'm gonna go
sad boy hyphenated.

Speaker 7 (02:32:08):
Uh, hyphenated, diversely, elite, wholesome, thank you.

Speaker 3 (02:32:16):
Yeah, okay, tasteful, m William beautiful, thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:32:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:32:24):
It felt very heartfelt to me. Put a lot of
thought into that. That's a very prepared heartfelt.

Speaker 2 (02:32:30):
Was my word.

Speaker 3 (02:32:35):
Sentence. One word dumb ass, Okay, now I gotta go.
I didn't prepare near as much, but I have my
and I changed it just a second ago. Honorable mention
will be I went kind of weird offbeat country love
songs because those are the only songs I know as
country songs. Honorable mention is Let's Fall to Pieces Together

(02:32:58):
by George Strait Fall Pieces Together right here in each
other's arms. It's like, you know, they both just broke
up with somebody, but it's like, well, uh, what is
the alone? Is much better together? I think that's one
of the coolest lines anyway. Yeah, good little that's a
good line. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:33:19):
Yeah, So he's georget you said, Yeah, he's got a future.

Speaker 3 (02:33:23):
Man. I'm telling you to be something. He's gonna be something. Yeah,
there's honorable mention.

Speaker 2 (02:33:31):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:33:32):
Tier three is job description by Alan Jackson, which is
that song just means a lot to me because it's uh,
it's the The whole thing is a story about well,
it's allan on the road. He wrote it, uh about
his what it's uh actually eighty miles an hour wind

(02:33:53):
and the other diesel down the Inner State, dreaming about
my little girls, easy chair. This is beside the fireplace,
and we shut her down in another town. Shower up
and do just what we came to do. Sing for
the people, count the money and the miles back home.
Do you so? I think that's a that's what my favorite.

Speaker 1 (02:34:11):
It's a good element.

Speaker 3 (02:34:15):
He does. I just I knew I was picking songs
that no one was gonna know. So just kidding. Some
people know that George Strait song. But that's a pretty
deep cut Alan song there. I love that. That was
Tier three. Tier two is fantasy. Bye. I can't even
remember the dude's name. It's a big deal. It's like
Kendrick Lamar or something like. Pull that up fantasy from

(02:34:39):
your head to your toes and I wanna you make
it so good. I don't want to leave, but I
gotta no lett no know what to see. Yeah, exactly,
that's the one.

Speaker 1 (02:34:52):
So this is broken down on an urban podcast.

Speaker 3 (02:34:57):
Talking about some.

Speaker 5 (02:35:00):
Show.

Speaker 4 (02:35:00):
Were you talking about on this damn show?

Speaker 3 (02:35:02):
Exactly up here? Boy, I don't want that.

Speaker 4 (02:35:06):
I want to listen to Friss and music, dude.

Speaker 3 (02:35:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:35:11):
Sorry.

Speaker 4 (02:35:12):
Ludacris also was in The Fast and the Furious movies,
which yeah, that's.

Speaker 3 (02:35:16):
Right, we all know. I'm not a fan of Okay,
I'm with you, brother, but anyway, anyway, sorry, Luda Fantasy
by Ludacris. That was Tier two. Tiers one is uh
my favorite memory Merle Haggard first time we met, his
favorite memory of mine. Time changes all it pertains to,

(02:35:39):
but your memory is stronger than time. I guess everything
does change except watch choose to recall. There's a million
good day dreams to dream on. Baby, you are my
favorite memory of all.

Speaker 1 (02:35:54):
Well done, love that one.

Speaker 3 (02:35:57):
It's my wordd well done hyphenated. That was really good. Yeah,
we're getting pretty loose with words here.

Speaker 4 (02:36:09):
Oh my word poetic, nicephonated, don't know any of them?

Speaker 3 (02:36:17):
Yeah, I told you, told you. Yeah, you knew the
letter because.

Speaker 7 (02:36:22):
One interactive, nice, predictable for Zach.

Speaker 3 (02:36:28):
Yeah, you stole that. I was going to say hyphenated
part for the chorus free show.

Speaker 1 (02:36:38):
Yeah, I'm over here. There's zero depth to the songs
that I chose. Taylor's Taylor's telling stories, telling stories and singing,
and I'm talking about give me that pussy.

Speaker 9 (02:36:48):
Yeah, how to suck like taking in the ass.

Speaker 4 (02:36:58):
Imagine what Buddy all right? New singles out good times
and tan lines. We popped that bad boy on in
our team meeting today or our pre production today.

Speaker 3 (02:37:07):
Nice you come up with that. I thought the song
to me if you need to, because I don't want
to hear that it's bad, but can be honest with you.

Speaker 4 (02:37:16):
We put the first forty five seconds on and then
one of our guys paused it.

Speaker 3 (02:37:21):
Since yeah, he's been firing Taylor Taylor made. Taylor made
the comment this is nineties country. Yeah, this is it's pretty.
It's pretty down in the middle. No, uh, no curveballs here.
I believe the idea was Carson's actually, or he just
saw it somewhere, like on a T shirt. Half the

(02:37:41):
songs we write it, you know, some dumb exactly see
one of these goofy stickers in here or something. But
I have seen any yeah beef, what's for dinner? That's
a good one. But yeah, so he he's so oh yeah,
something on a T shirt or whatever it was, and like, man,

(02:38:03):
that sounds like a song good time to tailor. So
we wrote it, uh with another buddy of mine, White mcubbin,
great writer. Yeah, just felt like it was it's all there.
There's some of those like titles like cold Beer in
Country Music was another one of them that it's like
it's kind of like, how did somebody not write this already. Uh,

(02:38:23):
it seems like it's just like almost low hanging fruit
kind It's just like that's right there has that not
been done?

Speaker 4 (02:38:30):
So anyway, George Strait did write Cold Beer Conversations.

Speaker 3 (02:38:33):
Right, he did, Well, he didn't write it, but somebody did.
I can't remember who did, but yeah, I think Dean
Dylan was on that song. But anyways, yeah, so I
don't know, it's just yeah, there's no secrets here. It's
just a fun it's supposed to be a good time
summer anthem song. You know, it's not going to change
the world. Maybe it'll change somebody's tax bracket. I don't know. Yeah,

(02:38:58):
you change the vibes on the boat. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it has been. Yeah, we've been cranking it up already
when we've been out on the boat. It's a good
boat song for sure.

Speaker 4 (02:39:08):
Starting to hit heavyfore that's good.

Speaker 3 (02:39:10):
Honestly, I was telling this to the guys while we
wrote it, so we never said anything about this. But
I was homeschooled from all the way up to my
sophomore year high school, I guess, and then went to
community college anyway, homeschool Christian family, So like I wasn't
a very wild kid in high school or anything, or

(02:39:31):
not even wild, but just like doing stuff like this.
I was going to bluegrass vessels. I was kind of
a nerd and it's worked out, okay. So I'm not,
you know, complaining, but I feel like hearing other people's
stories of high school where they're like sneaking out and
like you know, drinking with their friends all night and whatever. Yeah,

(02:39:53):
just like I wouldn't hardly even I wouldn't allowed to
date anybody. I would like, I couldn't do anything. It
was very a very kind of like sheltered childhood and
I had a great time, nothing but fun memories. But
I was telling the guys, I was like, this is like,
I'm kind of writing this as what I imagine my high

(02:40:13):
school experience should have been, like just running around with
my buddies time. Yeah, exactly, chasing girls and skinny dipping
and whatever. Anyway, I was being a nerd and trying
to learn to play guitar, like Tony Rice.

Speaker 4 (02:40:25):
So you've definitely picked the right path and it's work.

Speaker 3 (02:40:28):
Yeah, it's worked out. Okay.

Speaker 4 (02:40:30):
When you got to Colorado, yeah, did you find yourself
going through like a rebellious phase? At all, like being
in this kind of it sounds like a sheltered life. Yeah,
I can't date people in the middle a round there's
girls walking around.

Speaker 3 (02:40:41):
Yeah, I know, I really wasn't. I was still fairly
like I. Yeah, I got drunk with my college roommates
a bunch, so that was fun. But I never did
anything very crazy. I still don't.

Speaker 1 (02:40:53):
Still was the most amount of trouble you got into
in high school.

Speaker 3 (02:40:57):
In high school, well, I was dating a girl that
uh or know, we weren't allowed to be dating, so whatever,
we hung out. Yeah, exactly, yes, dude, yeah, Julie. Yeah,
I was texting this girl too much, and so my
parents took my phone away. I Uh. It was like

(02:41:20):
a solid full summer of just NonStop warfare with my
parents over this chick. And she would like, I didn't
have a phone, I didn't have my own car, so
I had to borrow my parents one of my parents'
cars to go anywhere. So she would come like drive

(02:41:41):
to my street, uh at like two in the morning,
and I would sneak out the basement window and run
up and we go Parker car and the sand dunes
and make out what would make out?

Speaker 4 (02:41:52):
Yeah, yeah, over the pants and some over the pants stuff, breathing, yeah,
let's go.

Speaker 3 (02:42:05):
Yeah, man, there's.

Speaker 4 (02:42:07):
Just the denim of your pants actually giving you a
callous Yes, God, please, that's something to it.

Speaker 3 (02:42:13):
What a feeling, dude. Those were the days life was
so simple, being in high school.

Speaker 4 (02:42:19):
And meeting somebody and being like, wow, maybe something could
happen here is maybe the greatest rush any human being
their life. Wild remembers their first time. Everyone remembers like
making out for the first time doing anything.

Speaker 3 (02:42:35):
Yeah, exactly, let's just rub our pants together and just
grab feeling a little I feel just going home with the.

Speaker 1 (02:42:48):
Yeah, go ahead, finished and just going home with the
empty nut in your jeans.

Speaker 4 (02:42:57):
Yeah, and like at first you're upset about it, but
then eventually dries.

Speaker 3 (02:43:01):
You know again, it's cool. Yeah, it's in the hamper
hide under. That's what about because mom's doing must have been
there for a while. God, dude.

Speaker 4 (02:43:14):
Yeah, those some of those just sitting there watching a
movie with a couple of girls and just that you know,
you're like just pressing against their thigh like they don't,
like they don't, it's gonna activate something crazy. You feel.

Speaker 3 (02:43:26):
Pressed out, catching a cramp. Yeah, those are the days.

Speaker 4 (02:43:29):
Let you talk about that, dude.

Speaker 3 (02:43:31):
This is this is this? Is it?

Speaker 1 (02:43:35):
Blue good Times and dry humpt if you relate to
anything we just said, this is the song.

Speaker 4 (02:43:40):
Right you want to go back to high school when
you used to fuck up your denim pants, Zach tops,
good Times and tan lines is the song for you
if you want, it's.

Speaker 3 (02:43:51):
Gotta be called it's got to be called blue. Balls,
got gotta be called balls.

Speaker 4 (02:43:55):
Yeah, I'm blue for you. Oh my god, that's fucking awesome, dude. Yeah,
yeah you should. We can anytime you want to have
a brain.

Speaker 3 (02:44:08):
Yeah, you already asked about. When I start running out
of material to ride about, we'll just tell.

Speaker 4 (02:44:13):
You about high school, high school situation, a couple of
high school stories. Yeah, yeah, yeah, get a little group.
I do kind of want to ask him the question,
but I feel like I'm gonna get mad with the
O G busting questions.

Speaker 1 (02:44:24):
Would you cut your dick off for a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (02:44:27):
When he lost a V card? Is that an O
G question? That's how we used to start. It's more
like the first time first. Yeah, feels like it's not
the show.

Speaker 3 (02:44:37):
Yeah, we've grown, we have, We've grown. Yeah, friendly on
here now as you stay away from that. It was
a long time. But like question, right.

Speaker 1 (02:44:50):
So you know how people would do anything for a
bud light and high school bud light?

Speaker 3 (02:44:54):
What would Zach allegedly? No, no, no, no, no, anybody do
anything everybody and everybody.

Speaker 1 (02:45:02):
Will do anything for bud What would Zach top do
anything for?

Speaker 3 (02:45:09):
Yeah? I know, I know, I already got the breakdown.
I already got the rundown.

Speaker 4 (02:45:13):
Dude, Okay, I know what the I wonder what the
notes are like that coming for our guests.

Speaker 3 (02:45:19):
It wasn't hardly anything. Tyler just texted me this morning
and said just type that question and said, can't say family,
and then he told me to prepare a list of songs,
which I kind of did and that was it. That's
but yes, what would I do anything for? I? I
want to be better at golf. Just there is other

(02:45:45):
than parking girlfriend's car in the sand dunes and making
out all night. The best feeling in the world is
just hitting a flush golf shot. And if I could
just hit the ball flush every time, it'd be amazing.
I like that answer. Yeah, it's kind of boring it

(02:46:07):
out nice.

Speaker 4 (02:46:08):
Yeah, I really really better at golf. I was like,
all right, yeah, it's pretty boring.

Speaker 3 (02:46:12):
No, no, I got yeah, just hitting flush golf shots.
I want. I want to have that energy. I kind
of have that energy on a pool table. I'll hustle
some people on a game of pool. Lately. Somehow I
TikTok video got posted. Uh, some dude after a show
came up and asked me to play pool for one

(02:46:32):
hundred dollars, and I beat him and took his hundred dollars.
So now if fans see me and I'm playing pool somewhere,
they'll come up and play me for one hundred dollars.
And I don't believe I've lost yet. So I just
love the energy of And I'm not that good. I'm
not like great. I played in a league for a
little while. I played in a pool league for a

(02:46:54):
little bit. Look at that and see that one was
for my music video. I had to miss that on purpose.
Did you see how nicely I missed that? You got
to do that purpose?

Speaker 4 (02:47:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:47:04):
For for my it was bad Luck, the music video
for bad Luck. Look at that thing? Is that?

Speaker 4 (02:47:09):
How much did that piss you off at?

Speaker 3 (02:47:12):
Dude? It's yeah, it hurts. It was an easy shot too.
But yeah, no, just the energy of like being able
to hustle somebody out of just taking somebody's money at anything,
and golf is a really full one. I love taking
people's money at golf, and I hate getting my money
taken in golf.

Speaker 4 (02:47:31):
So if you can play golf against one person, who
would it be?

Speaker 3 (02:47:35):
Like, just like play around with somebody around for money
by John Daily? Well yeah, but then yeah that see yeah, yeah,
so I just picked like the worst player I know. Well, yeah,
somebody that I love taking money from. Owen Punches, my
sound guy. He got a little cocky attitude on him.

(02:47:57):
So a bunch of the guys it might Yeah, you're
not gonna find Owen Punches on the internet. I'm sorry. Anyways.
So Dave the piano player, Jimmy the bass player, and Owen,
my sound guy, have all kind of started getting into golf,
so they like to go out and golf with me.
I'm not very good. I'm like an eight handicap right now.

(02:48:18):
I think they're horrible. They're like a forty handicap, all
of them. So we would play. They would do a
three man scramble against me, and we played for one
hundred dollars on the whole match or something. And I
went through a stretch where I was playing the worst

(02:48:38):
golf of my life and they beat me one time
and I had to pay them. That was the absolute worst.
And then we went out and played like the next
week or something, and I started talking shit because Owen
was Owen's the biggest shit talker in the world. And
so they won that one time. And mind you, if

(02:49:00):
this guy played by himself his own ball, he'd shoot
one hundred and seventy five. So anyway, and they're beating
me in the scramble, and he was talking a lot
of shit. So then the next time we played, I
was like, all right, Owen, just put your money where
your mouth is, buddy. We're playing for two hundred today,
and you know it's a big money I know. Anyway, anyway,

(02:49:27):
and then they beat me again, and so now I'm
just in the seventh circle of hell with shame and disappointment.
And then a third time we go out and play,
and now I'm talking a lot of shit because I'm
just like, yeah, you got lucky twice. Don't worry, it's
not going to happen again. Lo and behold, they beat
me a third time in a row. And then Owen

(02:49:49):
just got a little out of hand and he starts
talking about how he's gonna beat me playing his own ball,
and I was just like, dude, how delusional do you
have to be that you got lucky three times playing
a three man scramble versus me, Now you think you're
gonna beat me playing your own ball. And so then
we played and I beat him, and anyway, it just

(02:50:09):
felt really good after all the ship talking and all
the shame and.

Speaker 1 (02:50:13):
Things like, they beat you down me so much that
it's what you would do anything for?

Speaker 3 (02:50:17):
Is just said?

Speaker 1 (02:50:18):
Flush golf shots?

Speaker 3 (02:50:19):
Yeah, yeah, is so deep? Hey we won the war?

Speaker 4 (02:50:28):
Yeah, yeah, Owen needs that clip.

Speaker 3 (02:50:30):
Would you do anything for it?

Speaker 4 (02:50:31):
Beat my friends?

Speaker 3 (02:50:32):
They keep beating punches money.

Speaker 4 (02:50:34):
And go yeah yeah, how much did you? So you
played for a hundred lost, two hundred lost, and then
two hundred again, so it's five hundred dollars? Would you
play for one on one?

Speaker 3 (02:50:47):
Uh? I think just one hundred and we only played
like five holes or something, so you're still in the hole.
Oh yeah, for sure. I don't know that. Financially, no,
it's yeah, it's yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:51:03):
Yeah, A rates are high. I'll be honest inflation tariff.
Oh yeah, but yeah, we've got some stuff out there
for it's tough out there. Before we get out of here,
is there anything you want to promote? Say, give out,
give a shout out to somebody.

Speaker 3 (02:51:18):
Yeah, you've got it. The new record coming out obviously
a new single came out on the ninth. Yeah today, Yeah,
and then uh yeah, I've got a new record coming
out August twenty ninth. I promised the people a summer
album and I barely made it, but we've got it
August twenty ninth. The record we called Ain't in It

(02:51:41):
for My Health, which I think is pretty funny. It
was kind of a it's a line out of one
of the songs, out of the first song on the album,
but it's kind of like a uh a little oh
look the image is already out ship, I guess they Yeah,
that was getting posted, getting announced. So yeah, that's that
Ain't in It for my Health. Yeah, it's kind of

(02:52:01):
like a little I'm here to stay statement, you know, Yeah,
like I ain't a one hit wonder sort of thing. Uh. Anyway,
so yeah, new record. Excited about that. Fifteen songs, Well
you got one of them today, yeahs.

Speaker 4 (02:52:15):
Is there is there a song on that album that
you're like most proud of that You're like, I hope
people love this one.

Speaker 3 (02:52:21):
There's a few. Obviously I love all the songs. I
wouldn't have put them on the record if I didn't.
But yeah, there's there's like I'm a little older now
than like the the stuff on the first record, and
there's like a couple more life sort of songs and
I think there's a couple of those that there's one
called Between the Ditches that I think is gonna be

(02:52:42):
I hope it's gonna be pretty powerful. I think it is.
Hopefully people resonate with it. But yeah, there's I don't know,
there's a bunch of stuff on there I'm really really
excited about. And it's kind of you know, it's it's
same on me. It sounds, you know, sounds like the
same artist, but I think the music has matured a
little bit and it's it's moving forward and yeah, it
doesn't sound like you know, same old Bland. Yeah, Jack,

(02:53:04):
I do.

Speaker 5 (02:53:05):
Have a question, and I don't know people like to
know this. I'd like to know this, excluding yourself. Who
more Zach Tops Top three Live touring acts currently.

Speaker 3 (02:53:15):
Oh nice Jake Worthington. He's a guy that's been out
opening some shows for us. He is phenomenal, one of
the best singers and as country as cowshit. He's hilarious.
I love that dude. I'll say Dirk s. Bentley. I'm
not trying to just plug who we're on tour with

(02:53:36):
right now, but we're on tour with Dirk Bentley. He's
just hilarious. His whole show is kind of a comedy
routine and a big old bit that's in fact, that's
what he said. He says there's there are no hits,
there are only bits, and so it's I don't know.
His show is just very entertaining to watch, super funny,

(02:53:56):
and Chris Stapleton probably he's just I don't know. I
love the in the age of like guy and I
ain't knocking it, but like there's a lot of guys
run around with a wireless mike holding a red solo cup,
singing their songs and he just stands up there behind
the microphone and holds his guitar or plays his guitar
and sings and captivates people with that voice. I don't know,

(02:54:19):
it's cool. I love Stapleton and just badass songwriter obviously too.

Speaker 5 (02:54:24):
But yeah, two part question as well. Yeah, come on,
is there anything the fans can expect in the future
of a potential Zach Top Billy Strings album.

Speaker 3 (02:54:34):
Oh that's a good question, man. We had so much
fun doing that little project, little mini project together. I
love Billy For some reason, he seems to be able
to tolerate me too. It's fun to like he inspires
me so much. There's not It's like, I don't know.
Sometimes it can feel hard to I just every time

(02:54:55):
I get around him, it's like, God, dang, I need
to go practice my guitar. I need to go practice
my singing. I need it just like makes me want
to be better. It's not at all. Uh uh, it's like, oh,
I'm noticed good. It's just like it's a it's a
very positive type of damn it. I want to be better,
and so I love every time I get to be
around the nicest dude in the world too. But yeah,

(02:55:17):
we will do more things in the future together, for sure.
You don't know exactly. Yeah, I don't know exactly what
it's gonna look like, but yeah, I love yeah being
on shows with him and stuff and h and making
music together. We'll do something people I speak.

Speaker 4 (02:55:34):
For them, Billy strings.

Speaker 3 (02:55:37):
Yeah, yeah, billy strings on the show.

Speaker 1 (02:55:40):
Billy you are crushing it and it is. It's been
an honor to have you on the bus.

Speaker 3 (02:55:45):
Appreciate that. Thank you guys for having me.

Speaker 1 (02:55:47):
People are people are starting to love you. You're sending
right now. I hope the album crushes were all success.
We will all stay in touch, especially when you bring
the fam on. Amen and you hit the blue grass
and get the family.

Speaker 3 (02:55:59):
If I get him convinced to do it, I'm we
can do. Yeah. We can do the introduction. Yeah, I
love it. The event, Yeah, that's what I need to do. Yeah,
have you come do your introduction for me. I'll do
that playing Nashville or something.

Speaker 4 (02:56:12):
Just I'll even do it for free. Well, the first
one will be free if you want, like a Heroin deal. Yeah,
first one's free.

Speaker 3 (02:56:20):
Yeah. You know everything that's going on, Yeah, we do.

Speaker 4 (02:56:25):
We've done so many podcasts and every time we have
somebody on that we don't know, there's always this little
anxious worry. Hopefully that guest wants to talk have a
good time. You've been that brother, Well, like it has
been awesome to hang out, hear your stories. That's gonna
be cool to see your success in the future.

Speaker 3 (02:56:39):
Appreciate keep on going. I had a blast with you
guys at the Beer Olympics. Yeah, twenty twenty six.

Speaker 4 (02:56:44):
You're in right now.

Speaker 3 (02:56:46):
Yes, I've done done.

Speaker 4 (02:56:49):
You guys are gonna hate Usdude, We're so bad in
scheduling or like like three months before.

Speaker 3 (02:56:53):
But you guys do this.

Speaker 4 (02:56:54):
But you guys see the tourists like he said he
would do it.

Speaker 3 (02:56:58):
He's gonna find some material. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:57:00):
Yeah, let's you give zacharidivaplus a time. Nice any prodible dude.
Appreciate you, Appreciate you coming the bus, and you have
an invite forever.

Speaker 3 (02:57:09):
Thank hek you guys very much.

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