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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Right side, Rick whide to a shot from Montur turn aside,
the rebound stars Shane Wright the second chance off the
rebound and the krack.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
And have a one nothing lead.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Schwartz picks off the buck down the slot.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Stevenson stars Stevenson down low Everly China shovel it in
turn aside rebound Stevenson stars Chandler. Stevenson left circle on
the power play gives the Crack in the lead back.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
It's three to two and there goes old Mark off
to the bench.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Extra attacker on here for Ottawa nearside Cousins scores.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Ottawa ties the game three three five.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Seconds to go in over the blue line Sanderson left circle,
his sud begged off the pots at the horn and
auto play.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
We're going to a shootout.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Shane Pentto can put it for the whole team right
hand a shot Shane Pencil from the red line carries
it over left side of the circle.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Now cuts back to the slot. Walks In shoots scores.
Peer bits you on the call last night as the
Crack and do get a point, but for the second
game in a row, they lose beyond regulation play, this
time to the Ottawa Senators. In a shootout final score

(01:27):
four to three. They have earned a point in all
four of their games so far this young season, and
they will also be taking on Toronto tomorrow. How about
that boy, we got a score to settle with Toronto.
I'll tell you that much.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah, I got two of these for him.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
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(02:05):
the top story today. The Mariners do lose to the
Toronto Blue Jays yesterday by a final score of eight
to two. Team has been outscored twenty one to six
since returning home with a two to zero lead in
the American League Championship Series and now suddenly the series
is even at two games apiece, so it's a best

(02:26):
of three and that starts tonight at home or actually
this afternoon three o'clock start. Bryce Miller gets the call
for the Mariners. He'll be going up against Kevin Gosman.
He is Kevin Gosman their number one starter, but Bryce
Miller has already bested him once in this series. We'll
look to do that again today, starting at three o'clock.

(02:47):
Headlines are brought to you by Frostbrewed Corps, Light Shoes Chill.
Los Angeles Dodgers are having an easy time with the
team that finished with the best record in baseball, the
Milwaukee Brewers. The Dodgers won yesterday three to one, so
they are up three in the series. Looks like they
are certainly going to be punching their ticket to the
World Series soon. Krack and I mentioned lost in a shootout.

(03:08):
Huskies will be at Michigan tomorrow nine am kickoff. Hanks
will be on the air at six a m Seahawks
won't play until Monday night football against the Texans. Cincinnati
started the new week of the National Football League season
with a surprising thirty three p thirty one win over
Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers' first matchup in NFL history

(03:30):
featuring two starting quarterbacks both over the age of forty.
From what I understand of course, a huge schedule on
Sunday and then a double header on Monday, which I'm
not sure I really like. Let's ask Greg Bell about it.
Saw Greg and the food line last night. Didn't see
him much beyond that, So yeah, not exactly the ideal

(03:51):
situation last night. There was it there, Gregor.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
No. It reminded me how suddenly baseball change. It's unlike
you got to wait seven days the postseason for baseball
changes so quickly. And that's what the Toronto guys were
talking about. And now it's the series is completely on
its head, as you said, best of three, and that's
what the Mariner show connect to. It's what Kyle Rally

(04:17):
said in the clubhouse after the game, and Pryce Miller
has if he can duplicate what he did in Toronto
on Sunday, then there'll be one win away again.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
But yeah, it's.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
Toronto has gone from doing nothing to everything offensively. That's
pitching for the Mariners just has not been able to
make any pitches they want to make.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
It is strange, though, Bucky, like, it doesn't seem like
there's momentum in this sport, even though teams do put
together ten game eighteen game winning streaks or you know,
fifteen game losing streaks, And every time I bring it
up to a guy that played at the major league level,
they're always no, no, no, it's there. It's just different.
I don't really know how to explain it, because, believe me,

(05:00):
Toronto and their fans were thinking their goose was cooked
when they left Toronto to come here. They thought they
that the series was over. So it's not like something
unique to just Marinder fans when they watch back to
back subpar performances. Believe me, Toronto and the national people
thought the series we had Harold Reynolds on I don't
see a path for the Blue Jays to come back,

(05:21):
and here we are to tom nothing.

Speaker 6 (05:24):
Yeah, yeah, I mean to me, it feels like it's
because there's so many opportunities, like to what Greg's kind
of saying, like in football, you gotta wait six days
and you got to wait a week to play. So
even if you're you won three four games in a row,
it's like we do we have momentum. We have played
for a week, whereas in baseball it's like you can
you can snap that momentum and then next thing you know,

(05:44):
you have it and the next day you have it again.
And yet it can turn.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
On a dime.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
It's it can turn on a dime.

Speaker 6 (05:50):
It's basically the momentum builds every single game from one
pitch to the next.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
That's the beauty. It's true.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
Every game is its own edits in the playoffs exactly
when we least SkyDome Monday Night whatever they call it now,
Rogers Center, I think it rebuilding in Canada's colled to
Rodgers Center. They were the staffers are saying, yeah, we're
not coming back. Yeah, we're closing it up. I'll see
you next spring. They were just they were gonna pack
the park up and be done.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
They didn't pick their coming back either.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, they turned on a dime once they can do
it again. Greg Bell with us our Seahawks insider, but
he has been covering the Mariners for the News Tribune
throughout the playoffs. Here, all right, so we don't play
until Monday nights. I don't know how you feel about this,
but it's not like a selfish Seahawk thing. It's not
like we I have to have the Seahawks have the

(06:39):
stage to themselves. But shouldn't Monday night be precious shouldn't
there only be one game on Monday night football for
goodness sake.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
Yeah, and there shouldn't be Thursday games, so there shouldn't
be Friday games.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Scratch that itch again.

Speaker 5 (06:57):
Yes, there shouldn't be a ten o'clock eastern, seven o'clock
Pacific game. I think this will be the latest Seahawks
home game ever because they've never had this doubleheader backside
doubleheader at a Seahawks home game before. And so to
land after ten o'clock, and yeah, I'll get out of
the Stateium at one o'clock and may have just flown

(07:17):
in from Toronto, may not, may still be in Toronto
and someone else might be covering the Seahawks game for
the news tribute. I don't know yet. But as far
as the players, they're on West Coast time, they live here,
it doesn't matter. It may matter a bit to Houston bodyclockwise.
They're playing at nine o'clock Houston time. First kickoff is

(07:38):
at nine o'clock. But once they play, they they're professionals.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
It won't matter.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
But for fans, yeah, it's reminds me of the Huskies
and all the eight o'clock starts. And at least there's
no sale gaming to ruin. I guess for seven o'clock
Seahawks start well.

Speaker 6 (07:54):
See, I mean you sitting a fourn too, and kind
of feeling probably, I would imagine, fairly good about coming
off of that win against Jacksonville. I mean, is it
are we far enough into this to just basically say, yep,
Sam Donald's that's our franchise quarterback moving forward.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
I mean for the foreseeable future anyways, foreseeable future.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
Yes, And there's no reason to think that they won't
out of the second third year of his contracts. We
know he could, he could, They see us could get
out of it relatively cheaply in the next year and
next year after that. You know, it's a three year deal.
But so far he's been one of the best quarterbacks
in the league. And again what's surprising is he's doing

(08:37):
it not by design. They were going to run the ball.
They're still going to run the ball, but they were
gonna run the ball more effectively. That was the whole
idea of Clint Kubiak coming here, and they signed Sam
Donald to be a complimentary quarterback off the run game
play action, pass, bootlegs, run, run, run, throw, and they

(08:57):
just run a little bit, not much then throw throw,
So it has been not by design, which has perhaps
been even more impressive that he has carried them and
that wasn't what they thought when they signed him. They
are vowing to do what they've been doing so far,
which is to continue to run. It's becoming interesting about
the Zach Charbona Kenneth Walker snapcount splits and a lot

(09:22):
of fans are saying, why is Sharbonee getting the ball
when he is the lowest yards for carrying the league.
I think it's two point one or two point six
or something. And the answer McDonald won't come right and
say it, but the answer is they're trying to get
Walker through all seventeen games. They've talked about the foot
issue he has and it's a long term thing that
they are really managing through games.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
And you'll see.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
Charboney get entire series, usually in the second quarter, plus
he gets all the two minutes, plus he gets the
third down reps. And so when you combine all of
those and if they're in two minute quite a bit
or succeeding in two minutes with first downs, those snapstars
to add up, and all of a sudden he's got
more than Walker does, even though Walker has more productivity.

(10:05):
So when you're screaming, why is twenty six on the field,
it's because they're trying to get nine through the whole season.
And it appears that they think if they gave him
the bell cow load that he would break down and
won't be able to play in the next game. And that,
in the simplest terms, is why the splits are what
they are despite the production.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Greg Mel is with US Seahawks. Insight can follow him
at g mel Seattle, and right now he's doing double
duty covering the Mariners and the Seahawks who won't play
until Monday night against the Houston Texans. Is that extra
day at all valuable and trying to get Witherspoon and
Love on the field. How whole will the secondary be

(10:43):
by Monday night?

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (10:45):
I think it does matter. And in fact, Witherspoon and
Love were practicing yesterday. They were both listed as limited participants.
I saw Love at the beginning of practice moving around
pretty well, and he hadn't practiced in a couple of weeks.
Riek Wollen was full apparently through the concussion protocol, and
they'll see how he respond to going a full participant

(11:06):
in practice since first time since the concussion two games ago,
but all three of them practicing four days before the
game suggests that they're going to all three play and
their secondary will be whole, and that will help because
they haven't had a whole secondary since the first half

(11:27):
of the first game, because Witherspoon got hurt in the
second half colliding with Josh Job when Joeb intercepted brock
Purty way back on September seventh, and since then, Witherspoon's
only played two of six games. The first game they
got hurt, and he came back through the Arizona game
September twenty fifth, and then hasn't played again since. So
it's somewhat remarkable. They're four and two and their defense,

(11:49):
except for the Tampa Bay game, has controlled games without
who I think their best player, Devin Witherspoon is, and
I would expect they're going to go back to what
they started the season with, which is Witherspoon inside and
Job and Woollen outside when they go Nickel but Nick
even worrying now being full go too and playing really

(12:11):
where I thought he played an excellent game in Jacksonville,
especially tackling, give them options and extra defensive backs, and
it'll be interesting to see how much they go traditional
nickel and how much they'll go big nickel with Witherspoon
against Houston.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Gee.

Speaker 6 (12:25):
I mean, I don't think that anybody over there would
be content or super happy with where they're at as
far as their run game goes at this point. And
yet it's semi effective, just not really kind of clicking
on all cylinders. And so even without that, the play
action passing is working well. So what is next? Do
you think to get that run game going a little bit?

(12:47):
Or are they happy with where it's at because it's
being honored by the defense and hence the reason why
the play action passworks.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
Yeah, there's a bunch of anaalgic numbers that say it's
a chicken or the egg type of argument about play
action pass Do you need a run game or do
you not a lot of new age, new fangled numbers
say that you don't the old school thinking, and McDonald
and Kubiak subscribe to the old school thinking, saying gap
for a defense to honor it, you have to run

(13:14):
the ball so that they don't just come into the
quarterback and the defensive lineman, I actually have to think
about Reid run before pass and slow them down. But
they're going to keep running. They aren't happy with it.
They seem to be moving the ball and succeeding on
offense despite their running game, which is not supposed to
see the opposite of that. So it will be continue

(13:36):
to be a slog until they get better blocking. And
it's that simple. When there are multiple players in the hole,
or even worse, multiple defenders in the backfield, you're not
going to get yards. And again in Jacksonville, they were
multiple defenders multiple times, many times in the backfield on

(13:57):
running plays, and until the offensive line moves guys out
of holes and off the line, they're going to continue
to struggle running the ball. It's not like the guys
are running into players on their own.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
They're going to where.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
The play's designed to go. It's not being blocked. And
that's the issue, plain and simple. You can call it targeting.
They used that term all the time, meaning blocking them
in the right part of the right body and out
of the right side of the hole. They just need
to be stronger, better, tougher, and nastier in pushing guys
off the wall. They did it early in the season.

(14:32):
They did it in Pittsburgh. But we saw last night,
or I didn't see it. I was in the ballpark,
but the nation and Football Nations saw the Steelers got
pushed around by the Bengals. The Steelers have big problems
on defense stuff in the run, and that's the only
game that they've had sustained success running it. Even that
game wasn't until the second half that in some games
the number is like one hundred and twenty two yards

(14:54):
rushing against Tampa. But you really didn't feel like they
controlled the game at all running because they were given
up thirty eight points on the other side of the all. So,
as you can tell, but as we're talking here, this
is a flawed team that is not whole. Hasn't played
a complete game. They haven't run the ball while their
defense is played well. The New Orleans game when they
want with thirty five to three in the second quarter

(15:14):
might be the only game you could point to with that.
But New Orleans is terrible. So it's a four and
two team with a lot, I mean a lot to work.
I went just from a coaching perspective, really great that
you can have the attention of your players and just
flip on the Tapa Bay tape on defense say look
at this, you guys couldn't tackle it all and throwing

(15:34):
them almost every game tape of the run game. And
so you guys aren't balking.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
To anybody in our last minute and we really do
have about a minute here to do this. I saw
a list Gray Zabel top ten rookie of the year?
Are they that pleased with him? Has he been everything
that they'd hoped he would be?

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Yes, they have?

Speaker 5 (15:55):
And what's funny about the top Timwerky the talk now
there are Pro Football Focus gets a lot of attention
for offensive line ratings because you can't quantify offensive line
play otherwise it's about the only one out there, and
he rates really highly in that metric and Pro Football
Focuses rankings zero percent pressures in a lot of games.

(16:15):
So never before as a guard, any rookie of the
year type talking because of their noe. STA's the measure.
But now they are, and that's what people are goming onto.
But yes, you talk to the teammates. Charles Cross loves them,
was playing next to him. I've talked about that the
left tackle with the left guard and the coaches love him.
They how they talk about how he's not a rookie,

(16:38):
that he's poised. He talks trash to veterans. Yeah he's
No one's come out and told me this. He's more
than they thought they'd get. And that's saying something when
they had the highest drafted intier guard since Steve Hutchinson
in twenty twenty. Gray is Abel has been all that
and a bag of chips.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
All right, Greg, Well things are busy, stay busy out.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
Yeah, I don't even know what country I'm going to
be in the next few days, and that is it
might be m in Toronto on the Sunday night.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
And oh yeah, that's quite the turnaround. All right, Well,
wherever you are, we'll talk to you on Monday, all right,
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started with the Seattle Mariners Game number four of the
American League Championship Series against the Toronto Blue Jays last night,

(19:11):
and it started very similarly then to Game number three.
The Mariners had the lead. A home run, this one
by Josh Naylor had given them that lead. It looked
like our starting pitcher was off to a really good start.
And then all of a sudden, in the third inning,
he runs into the terrifying eight nine hitters of the

(19:33):
Toronto Blue Jays. A double by Isaiah Heiner Filefa just
inside the third base bag started the inning. And then
the guy that is newly terrorizing us, the Mike Trout
of Canada, Andresjamenez steps to the plate and for the
second time in as many nights he does this.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
The eighth pitch a high line right the right field
ken zones.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Going back, John again HiT's some menees out of the non.

Speaker 5 (20:03):
Spot, sparking the Jays for the second night in.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
A row light means strikes twice, but from an unlikely
source two to one Toronto Joe Davis kind of spelling
it out there for you last night there on Fox
I mean, Andre Simonez is a talented player. He was
a top prospect in the Cleveland organization for a long time,

(20:30):
known mainly for his glove, but he's got a He
had a pretty good scouting report for his bat. He
just had a really bad year at the plate this year.
He certainly didn't hit for power this season, but for
two nights in a row, his first at bat of
the night, he has launched the Toronto offensive assault by
homering off of George Kirby and then Luis Castillo last night.

Speaker 6 (20:52):
Well, both of them were the exact same situation. You
get a double ahead of him. His job is to
move the runner over. He understands his role on the
team is not to be the power guy, not to
be the run producer, but to set the table, get
that guy to third base so George Springer can drive
the guy in or do damage. And yet our pitchers
both made the mistake of throwing it right where he

(21:13):
can do damage and do his job.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
A pullable pitch down and in he drops.

Speaker 6 (21:18):
Head on it, squeaks it over the wall yesterday and
next thing you know, we go from up one to
a down one. It just is it's just poor execution.
I don't think for one second. George says, I made
a mistake on that pitch. I was trying to go
up and in which I don't know why you're even
going in period, because then if you miss down this happens.
Just go something away to where he rolls over it

(21:38):
or hits a ball. Short stop doesn't move, the run over,
doesn't do his job. You open yourself up to that mistake.
And yet it boils down to execution. If he dots
that up and in corner, he probably doesn't hit it.
There's a reason he hit to ten and had seven homers.
And then Luis.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Castillo comes back like, oh, I can do that too.
I'll just throw it right where you're trying to get one.

Speaker 6 (21:57):
I'll give you exactly what you're looking for, and next
thing you know, you know, they take the lead and
never look back.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
I just like that guy, do you. Yeah, And he
didn't like the little puppy dog celebration that he did afterwards.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
I didn't like that.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Well, as Bruce Springsteen once said, you can't start a
fire without a spark, and he certainly has provided the spark.
And then the fire roared for the rest of the game.
The next thing you know, you've burned down the playroom.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
He also said born in the USA.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
So yeah, he did say that eight run game, four
efforts before another sellout crowd in Seattle plus forty one
year old Max Scherzer baffled Mariners hitters for better than
five innings last night using not mad Max stuff. It's
old man Max stuff that he used last night. And

(22:49):
Mariners hitters I think had a decent game plan early on,
but once he got the lead, he just started toying
with them. You know, just I'm gonna bust you in
early to get the count. Dare you to get your
barrel out on a fastball inside, and then I'm gonna
throw breaking balls in the dirt away from you that

(23:10):
you'll never hit, and maybe you'll swing at them. And
we just kept swinging at them.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (23:14):
I mean, it's in the little bit of time that
I spent in the big leagues, I learned the lesson
real quick that the reason that the guys are up here,
it typically is because they understand how to pitch. They
understand how to use if it's your aggressiveness against you,
or if you're complacent or somewhat passive. They'll use that
against you. Yesterday was the one oh one class of pitching.

(23:36):
Just go get them, go after him, let them think, okay, here,
I'm gonna attack them with fastballs, and then if they
miss it, great. You have them set up now for
stuff that looks like something going down the middle and
breaking off the plate away.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
He did it time after time.

Speaker 6 (23:50):
After time, and with the exception of Josh Naylor, nobody
made an adjustment.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah, you know, occasionally I have one of those games
where you just stink that day. We stunk last night,
and you just don't wanted to ever surface in a
playoff game. I mean, I think about the Milwaukee Brewers.
I mean, they just seem overmatched, but they haven't stunk
in a game. They just haven't pulled out a victory
against the Los Angeles Dodgers. We were terrible last night

(24:16):
and in a lot of ways running the bases, our
approach at the plate, and then you know, obviously not
executing pitching wise in run scoring the possibilities. The Jays
have outscored the Mariners twenty one to six the last
two nights, evening this best of seven series at two
games apiece and assuring a return to Canada, and the

(24:40):
last time we were there it was Blue Jay fans
that couldn't figure out why they were so bad. I
mean we before we left caught a bunch of them
just bickering on the sidelines.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
Y'll come there right bye.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
I'm not your butet friend. He's not your friend guy.
I'm not your guy.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
But he's not your betty friend.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
I'm not your food god.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
The vicious teacher very annoying too.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, with their beady eyes and their flappy gums.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
I blame Canada, Yeah, I do, I do.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
I blame Canada. But Bryce Miller can help make the
medicine go down today. Maybe he is just the treatment
that we're looking for. He certainly was the answer in
game number one. He's going to get the ball in
game number five, and twenty four hours ago, sitting here
on this show, we thought it was going to be
Brian Wu getting the start, but Dan before the game
yesterday made it clear that no, we're going to hand

(25:32):
the ball to Bryce Miller in game number five to
face Kevin Gosman. He was clearly our number five starter
this year Bryce in terms of effectiveness and availability. But
it's very strange how the wheels turn in major League Baseball,
because it feels to me like Mariner fans suddenly feel
like the exact right guy is getting the ball today
to face Gosman.

Speaker 6 (25:52):
Yeah, you were right the hot hand, and I don't
care if it was hot for you know, one hand
or two hands or three hands. At his last time
out there, he he's pitched the best to this lineup.
He was the one that kind of set the tone
for the way in which the series started. We've fumbled
that away the first couple of games at home, but
I do trust he's going to go out there just
kind of like the Clint Eastwood, like you call him
and just cool customer, go out there and attack and

(26:15):
do what he's going to do. The nice thing is
is you still have your bullpen. Everybody's at your disposal
because you've got tomorrow off.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you go kind of you have to
kind of go the same approach. It's almost like a
game seven approach, and we might have four straight games
of this before it's all said and done. So he'll
have a quick hook too if the matchup's not favorable.
He puts a couple of guys on base in the third, fourth,
fifth innings. Then it will be a move to the
bullpen and just figuring out the right matchups and crossing

(26:43):
your fingers that guys are on their game. First pitch
today is at three oh eight. And yes, if you're
saying pivotal, I think that's I think that's the appropriate word.
But I will say this, you win this, and it
feels like you're completely back in control of the series. Obviously,
there's nothing intimidating about playing baseball in Toronto. We had

(27:04):
no problem with that in games one and two. Home
Field advantage has meant nothing in this series and in
most series in these Major League Baseball playoffs. So you
win today, you pull out a victory today, and suddenly
you just got to win one out of two in Toronto,
and that doesn't seem so intimidating at all.

Speaker 6 (27:20):
No, I think the word pivotal is perfect. I mean
the series kind of pivots right here at this point,
I mean there is right now, it's two to two.
It feels like maybe it's advantaged them. They came in
and answered the two that we snipered from them at
their place. And yet at the same time, it doesn't
really matter still starting zero zero. They don't get to

(27:40):
carry over any runs or any better approaches from yesterday.
We just need to answer the bell. It's gut check time.
If you didn't look in the mirror last night before
you went to bed, Mariners, you better have done it
this morning and recognize it's time to turn it around
and either prove that you're better than they are or
get ready to go on vacation.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Bucky and I are gonna bring our a game. We're
gonna have the right approach. I will like that to
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(28:19):
First and parts unknown for all road games. But we're
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there for you Husky fans Tomorrow morning as well. Hanks
will be on the air at six am getting you
ready for a nine a m. Kickoff it'll be Washington
at Michigan. That's right, the Wolverines in Ann Arbor at

(28:41):
the Big House. Oh yeah, this is a huge game.
Rick new Isil was with us on Tuesday and talked
about the matchup.

Speaker 8 (28:48):
This is all going to come down to does Wink
Martindale able to craft the same kind of plan that
Patricia did and keep the mom's legs at day And
if that be the case, then it's all going to
come down to third down conversion. Because if the Huskies
can play on third down and play efficiently on third down,
they're better than Michigan on offense.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
That's a fact.

Speaker 8 (29:11):
Michigan runs the ball.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
SC was able to.

Speaker 8 (29:14):
Corral them in the running game. That hadn't been the
case with the Trojans in the Lincoln Riley era. That
they were able to and SC also ran for over
two hundred yards out rushed Michigan. And if Washington can
do that with both them on and Joana Coleman, it
just sets up really well for the Dogs. I will
not be shocked with a I know they are underdog,

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but I will not be shocked with the Husky victory.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah. I wouldn't be shocked either, but they got to
match their physicality. If they can do that, and that's
not an easy thing to ask because Michigan's known for
it and they get a little hyped up at home.
But if they can do that, I think they win
the football game. It opened as a nine and a
half point spread with the Dogs being the underdogs. By
the time Ashley got a hold of it, it was

(29:59):
a six points bread in fact or fiction, it's all
the way back down to four and a half right now.
So you have just a four and a half point
underdog heading endo this game tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (30:08):
Well, yeah, it's gonna be a good measuring stick. You're
gonna find out. This is definitely I mean, the best
opponent they faced is Ohio State, and they hung with
him for a half and then it kind of kind
of fell in on him a little bit. This is
one where go out there, play four tough quarters kind
of match to physicality, don't let the big house become
too big, and shock the world to some degree, and

(30:29):
you will find yourself ranked somewhere in that top twenty five.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Krook's coming off an impressive loss, if there is such
a thing. We'll be at eighteen Virginia tomorrow. At three thirty.
The Week eight of the college football season starts tonight
with several good games. Nebraska plays Minnesota and number two
Miami tries to stay undefeated against Louisville, and then on Saturday,
all sorts of games featuring ranked opponents number ten, LSU

(30:56):
at seventeen, Vanderbilt number five, Ole Miss at number nine,
number eleven, Tennessee at number six, Alabama number twenty three,
Utah at number fifteen, BYU in the Holy War, and
then Ashley's favorite rivalry number twenty, USC at number thirteen,
Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Eh, don't say that about USC.

Speaker 9 (31:16):
That's not It's about both of them, really, But I
will be cheering for USC this time this time.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Yeah, well you're on her Pooh list though, Yeah, Alma
mater time. Yeah, think about that.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
Up there, close to the top.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Alight him. Number four on our ow show, Thursday Night
Football Last Night featured Aaron Rodgers versus Joe Flacco. That's
right too, one hundred year old quarterbacks doing battle on
Thursday Night Football forties.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
You grow a little pipe belly, you grow another chin,
and music starts to get too loud.

Speaker 6 (31:52):
One of your old girlfriends from high school becomes a grandmother.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
So true to old. Plus quarterbacks meeting in an NFL
game for the first time ever. That's a little surprising
to me. And it turns out that Flaco wins the
day thirty three thirty one Cincinnati over Pittsburgh. Jamar Chase
had sixteen catches one hundred and sixty one yards in
a touchdown.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
Good time my fantasy team.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yah, are you glad you took him in fantasy? I mean,
even without Joe Burrow, he still puts up monster numbers. Incredible.
The Rams will be at Jacksonville at six thirty Sunday morning.
That will be in London, of course, home of the Jaguars.
And then Philadelphia Minnesota is probably her best game of
the early games which are not that impressive. Indiana Indianapolis

(32:40):
against the Chargers, that is a really good game. And
then Sunday Night Atlanta and San Francisco is your Sunday
night matchup. Seahawks will not play until Monday night against
the Texans. Of course, the Seahawks trying to get their
secondary healthy. We're all wondering Will Witherspoon will love play
on Monday night. Here's Greg Bell with the outlook on

(33:02):
the secondary.

Speaker 5 (33:03):
All three of them practicing four days before the game
suggests that they're going to all three play and their
secondary will be whole, and that will help because they
haven't had a whole secondary since the first half of
the first game, because Witherspoon got hurt in the second
half colliding with Josh Job when Joe intercepted brock Purty

(33:25):
way back on September seventh, and since then, Witherspin's only
played two of six games. The first game they get hurt,
and he came back through the Arizona game September twenty fifth,
and then hasn't played again since. So it's somewhat remarkable.
They're four and two and their defense, except for the
Tampa Bay game, has controlled games without who I think

(33:46):
their best player, Devin Witherspoon is.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah, Hawks four and two, Texans two and three, But
they're a lot better than their record indicates. The offense
starting to come together. The defense has been spectacular all season,
clearly number one in the National Football League. Seahawks will
play one of two football games on Monday night. They'll
play the second game of a true doubleheader, no overlapping there,
so they will be game number two on Monday night,

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and we will be talking about it a lot Monday
and of course reacting on Tuesday. The Kraken they have
not come away from a game yet this year without
at least a point. They kept that streak going last
night despite a second loss in two games.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Shane Pinto can put it away for the home team
right hand a shot Shane Pinto from the red line,
carries it over left side of the circle, now cuts
back to the slot, walks in, shoots, scores, and the
Ottawa Senators come back after the Kraken took the lead

(34:50):
early in the third. They score late in the third,
survive a push from Seattle in overtime, and get the
win in the shootout by a four to three score.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Pat Trifinal everet fits you on the call right here
on the flagship Sports Radio ninety three point three KHRFM.
Chandler Stevenson scored twice the Crack and have earned a
point in each of their four games to start the year,
but they've lost both games on the season's first road trip.
They will also be taking on Toronto this weekend in
Toronto tomorrow at four o'clock. And finally, the Sounders and

(35:25):
they'll play on the road. That first round is a
best of three format, and so they don't, as far
as I can tell, don't have much to play for
on Saturday. But there are a lot of things on
the line with the MLS playoff picture tomorrow on Decision Day.
All right, coming up next on our radio program, are
the Mariners cooked? Well, if they are, they usually are

(35:49):
best when they're cooked. They're like a pop tart Sports
Radio ninety three point three KJRFM ever felt like an
indie race car right there. Yeah, he just totally indye
pitcrewed me during the break, shoved wires up our shirts. Yeah,
wires up my shirts. He spun my tires yeah, you
know yeah. I think he even took the back one off.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Yeah. Did you put some gas in here?

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yeah he gassed. Yeah, that's a photo of your calf bumps. Yeah.
He was like, I've already done that. Yeah, saw them
saw him coming.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Those those TV people, they are efficient.

Speaker 6 (36:22):
That was pretty impressive. We went from on the air
to thirty seconds later on the TV air. I guess yeah,
I don't even know. And now back on the radio.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
You guys are multitaskers.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
I'm tired and I don't even know.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
You might be doing another TV thing with the Canadian people.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
I think the Canadians are coming in there.

Speaker 9 (36:38):
They're downstairs outside right now. They're so polite. They asked
permission to film outside. I said, uh, can we just
be out oh here? I was like, yeah, you can
be out there.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
I only accepted this invitation this, Uh you know, drop
by if you will, so I could give him a
piece of my mind. Okay, good, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
So I don't know if they're coming up or not.
I sent a text.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
I haven't heard back. It's Chuck, it's buckets, Ashley. We're
getting ready for Game number five in every way possible,
because it does feel damn important. Three o'clock is your
first pitch. And I compared this team to a pop
tart that you know, usually they are best when you've
cooked them, maybe even overcook them a little bit. And

(37:21):
I think a lot of Mariner fans, I think, for
the third time this postseason, have come to the conclusion
that it's just not in the cards. You know, it's
just not gonna happen. That's usually when they play their best.
As a matter of fact, I think they're more like
a can of baked beans. Like you ever tried to
eat a can of cold baked beans? Not shod right,

(37:42):
but man put them over a flame and suddenly, you know,
around a campfire and it tastes like the most delicious
thing you've ever had.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
Amen.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
So I mean, you can say that they're cooked. But
this might be exactly where they want the Blue Jays,
because we're talking about a team that got at the
train deadline. They decided to go for it very aggressively
and went ten and one coming out of that, and
we were all sure, like, oh my gosh, this is
the best team in baseball. Those are the perfect editions,

(38:12):
filled holes, great clubhouse guys, Oh my god, we're gonna
just steamroll to the playoffs. And then they went six
and fifteen. Just when we thought they were really good
and had solved baseball.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Uh huh. Then they go.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Six and fifteen, and just when you thought, oh my gosh,
this team we can't even blame Jerry on this one.
This team was really well put together and they still
can't win. My goodness, what happened to our team that
was ten and one in eleven games? What did they
do then? Just when you stopped watching, Just when you

(38:45):
were sure that they were crumbling again, typical Mariner baseball.
What did they do? They beat the Atlanta Braves and
back to back games twenty eight to four. That started
a ten game winning streak. They won seventeen out of
eight team games. For goodness sake, they not only made
the playoffs, they won the division with room to spare.

(39:06):
They earned a buye. And then suddenly we're sure that
they're rolling. And what did they do to us? They
lost game one of the American League Divisional Series against
the relief Group, and then people were sure that they
were done. And then they won back to back games,
and then they were leading three to nothing in the
third game, game number four, and Tiger fans were leaving
the park by the thousands because they were sure they

(39:28):
were overmatched. And just when you start believing, they blew
it all.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
My heart can't handle just the story.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
And then that forces a game five, and then of
course we're sure we can't beat trek Schouble again. We
can't go six extra innings and strand that many base
runners and still pull this thing out? Can we? And
they do it, and then the entire national media, well,
they're gonna be way too tired to play the Blue
Jays in Game number one. That's a loss right there,

(39:57):
and instead a win win. Coming home two to nothing,
Harold Reynolds tells us I don't see a path where
the Blue Jays can get back into this series. And
sure enough, they've lost two straight games at home against
one of the fevered crowds in bait baseball history, and
here we go again. Everybody's convinced that the goose is cooked,
that the bake beans, the bake beans got ruined, spent

(40:22):
too much time over the campfire. And guess what this is.
Usually when they play their back, we'll probably lose today
one hundred to five, and then go to Toronto with
nobody giving them a chance, and they'll squeak out Game
six and win Game seven in the forty fourth inning,
and then we'll go to the World Series. This is

(40:44):
just the way this team plays, and I don't necessarily
like it, but it's never dull. I'll tell you that.

Speaker 6 (40:49):
Well, it's pretty enjoyable when as long as you come
out on the good side of things. I mean, it's
the idea of if they would have won that Game
four and we never would have got to witness that
game five. I mean, I guess to some degree a
lot of people be like, yeah, my health would benefit
from not having fifteen innings of stranded runners and whatnot,

(41:11):
and yet to me, that's what I want. I mean,
I don't want it to I don't want to lose
one hundred to five today and then go beat them
at their place back to back to pull it out
of the fire. I don't want that to happen, but
it would be pretty enjoyable if it did go down
that way. I'll just say it boils down to execution.
I mean, people can sit in their chairs and question

(41:35):
this and question that, and think this, and think that.
It boils down to man for man. Are we tougher
than they are?

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Man for man? Are we more dialed in than they are?

Speaker 6 (41:44):
Well, the last couple of nights would say no, the
previous couple games would say yes, you were. So now
you get down to three games. Who's going to show
up and make the twenty seven outs they have to
earn against us tougher Who's going to show up on
the other side of the ball and make it really
difficult for them to scrape together offense? And it boils
down to individual performances. How much are you going to

(42:06):
be in on it? And I don't expect you to
be perfect, but the approach to taking you'd strive for
perfection and then you hopefully land somewhere that's acceptable. Yesterday
did not look like a team that was striving for perfection.
And it's not that I'm gonna say that. They just
were like, Oh, we don't care, it's no big deal.
We won too at their place, so we should give

(42:27):
them back just to be polite. No, you just didn't execute.
I think that they knew what a veteran pitcher may
or may not go out there and try to do.
And he did it, and they took some hacks at
some good pitches that he was just like, I'm gonna
get ahead.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
Here comes my fast Well, I'm gonna get ahead.

Speaker 6 (42:44):
Now you think I'm the old Max Schuerzer and nope,
I'm going to turn into the nibbler. I'm gonna turn
into the guy that's gonna get you to chase. And
you fell into the trap. That's a thing between the years.
And if it's pressing, like Bill Wickie was asking us
on Fox, it could be pressing. We've seen this team
pressed before. Well, stop pressing. What do you have to
press for.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
It's not that.

Speaker 6 (43:04):
Yeah, the city of Seattle wants this, and you want
this and all of this stuff.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
It Just go out and prove that you're better than
they are.

Speaker 6 (43:11):
And if you can't, if you can't approach the game
the right way for twenty seven outs on both sides,
then you're going to prove that you're not better than
they are. And to me, I look at it as
too too. I don't look at it as advantage them.
I don't look at it as well. They beat us
by more the run differential, I don't think that matters.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
Pretty sure.

Speaker 6 (43:29):
It starts zero zero, and let's see if our lineup.
I think our lineup can compare to theirs. I think
their lineup has an advantage of putting more balls in play.
But there's nothing saying that we have to go out
there and strike out ten times. There's nothing saying you
can't put balls in player, that you can't shorten your
swing and say, let's put pressure on their defense a
little bit the way that they're doing us. If you

(43:50):
do it, and Bryce Miller answers the bell, I think
you're gonna be sitting okay, and you're right, you go
to Toronto only having to win one game.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
I like that chance, Yeah, I would like that plan.
Sounds like a good one to me.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
That Byron from Fox thirteen was a pressure player tell
you that right?

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Oh right now, didn't even heartbeat, didn't even raise up. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
He's like, well, we got about ten seconds. How long
does this segment go? This ocho thing. Yeah, he's in
there looking at me like I need to I need
to sent you up, buddy, yep. And he waited till
the end of the break and then got me all
Indie pit crewed in like fifteen seconds. Pressure ball play.
Feel a violated, Okay, violated very much? So I liked it,

(44:29):
did you though? Yeah, ma'am.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
He's asked for my phone number while we're on the air. Nice, Like,
what are you doing?

Speaker 6 (44:36):
He's pointing my phone, pointing his phone. Put your phone
number in here so I can call your phone.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
We'll send pictures.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Yeah, jeez.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Well, look, Kevin Gosman's their best guy, and he was
pretty good against US, yep, really good against us in
game number one. Bryce Miller's our five guy, and yeah,
he was even better than Gosman in game number one,
So let's see where it goes. But deep breath, just
gonna stick to it. I still feel good about our
chances over the course of a seven game series, and

(45:06):
we're even right now. It's the best of three from
this point forward. And sure we got to play the
last two in Toronto, but you win today and suddenly
that doesn't seem like all that daunting a task. So
this might be it. This might be the pivotal game.
Game number five today at three o'clock, and I'm all
about it. Ryan Heali will join us at nine o'clock.
We'll get his thoughts on everything coming up. Next to

(45:27):
a little college football we preview not just you, Michigan,
but the entire Big Ten schedule this weekend on Sports
Radio ninety three point three kJ r f M. Office Pancakes, Yeah,
Office Pancakes.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
No, that was the thing.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Yeah, it's Flapjack Day.

Speaker 6 (45:40):
You thought that I would wear maple syrup cologne? Yeah,
I thought it was Buttersworth by Ralph Lauren. That's what
I thought we were dealing with over there.

Speaker 9 (45:49):
No, I would think you yeah, because you probably like
make your own maple syrup.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Yeah exactly, I have made before.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
But I wouldn't wear it as cologne smells.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Mike smell them.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Oh yeah, we smell like sausage though.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
Sausage.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Oh well, maybe it's after dinner by Jimmy.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Sounds delicious.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Joining us now on the radio program is former Mariner
Ryan Healey, who's joined us throughout the course of the
postseason and last couple of days. I introduced him the
old Judge. We brought his best friend on the show
yesterday to do analysis with him. I'm sorry, I don't
have any surprises. I don't have your high school coach,

(46:35):
or your college girlfriend or your local grocer here to
greet you today.

Speaker 6 (46:39):
Probably for the best. To be honest with you, I'm trying.
I have somebody you might want to keep your head
on a swive. I but I've spoke to somebody about
sneaking in there and trying to depant you during the interview.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
So heads up, did.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
You get my wife's ce phone number or something?

Speaker 3 (46:55):
Maybe? Maybe? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Is she the cold? I'm lock the office door. I
don't feel safe anymore. Well, that was fun yesterday. We
got a lot of compliments on that. That was some
good stuff with the You and Kevin Polar on our show.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Yesterday.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
But now we get to isolate on Ryan Heay evaluation.
So talk to the Mariner fan because obviously, I mean,
I thought that was an even worse feeling yesterday than
Game one or Game three. To me, George just didn't
have it in Game three last night. It just felt
like the Mariners didn't have it. That just felt like
a really bad performance to me at a really bad time.

(47:32):
So what would you say about last night's game from
your seat?

Speaker 10 (47:38):
This is the not fun part of the job for me,
when I need to be critical of a team that
I love and I'm rooting for.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
But there were a lot of things that gave me
the ick.

Speaker 10 (47:48):
And as the Mariners fans, you guys are accustomed to
seeing the ick and you haven't seen it in a while,
and unfortunately it showed up last night. But the nice
thing is this is a best of seven series, so
we have opportunities still. But how do we respond and
how to respond quickly? But there's two things that I'm
just really struggling with that. There's two pass balls or
wild pitches we want to call them. Recently with runners

(48:09):
on third base and breaking balls in the dirt were
Riley's kind of in between backhanding and blocking the ball
the more traditional way, and Cal's of Platinum Glove winver
or goal or Platinum Glove winner.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
I don't deserve to.

Speaker 10 (48:20):
Be critical of him, but that situation I can be
critical of because the game in that playoff setting the fans,
they deserve better effort out of that. And there's the
Randy Rose Raine at bats are really starting to frustrate me.
You know, there was I think it was a third
bat against Max scherz Or watch two fast balls down
the middle then chase to break them on the left
handed batters box guilty. I've done the same thing, so
I know what that feels like, and I know why

(48:41):
that happens. This game is really really hard on the
defense of an offensive side. I'll never forget that. But
there's also a complete different look of hitter right now
in the batter's box between what the Blue Jays are
executing from one through nine and what the Mariners are
not executing one through nine. And it's really the bottom
of the order right now looked like last night, the
six through nine for the Blue Jays score five runs,

(49:03):
and our bottom third of the order for the Mariners
is bating right around a buck fifteen. It's just not
it's not good enough. When we're relying every single night
on the on the horses in the middle of the
order to do everything for us. We don't get to
the World Series and win this World Series without us
one through nine contributing.

Speaker 6 (49:20):
I'm with you, and yet there was, you know, not
coming through, like canzone hit a couple of balls hard
on the ground yesterday. That's all you're going up there
to do, right, get a pitch, try to hit a
hard see what the heck happens.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
But yes, you got to get more contribution.

Speaker 6 (49:34):
I mean, the top of the order didn't do anything
outside of Cal and Julio with those first inning walks.
They went silent the rest of the time too. So
when you're watching Max Scherzer, he's not the Max suerser
that you should just fill up the strike zone and
say here you go, you can't hit any of it.
He yesterday was going right after him early, especially once
he got the lead. Here you go, I'm gonna give
you one fastball, trick you into thinking I am the

(49:56):
old Max Schuser I think I am, and then I'm
gonna I'm gonna kind of do do you and nibble
on the outside corner and eventually they would take the bait.
Was there something you think game plan wise where they
weren't brought in, you know, brought up to speed as
to what they thought he was going to do, because
if they either didn't have a good game planner approach
going into it, or they just didn't make adjustments as

(50:16):
they saw fit. And yet I'm not one hundred percent
sure which one it was.

Speaker 10 (50:21):
That's fair, and I think you can have an approach,
you can have a really quality game plan, but it
always comes down to the execution. This game is really hard,
not just for the players, with the coaching staff, because
they were facing a Hall of Fame pitcher last time
of Max Scherzer, and you have to give credit where
credit's due. He was executing his pitches all the way
from the fastball to the slider, to the curveball to
the change up. And yes he gave the one homer

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on the change up to Naylor, but from there I
felt like Naylor was the only batter in that order
that was seeing the ball deep enough.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
For me, if you go through that.

Speaker 10 (50:51):
Game plan of what Surezer was doing, he was really
dominating the outer half with that slider and then able
to throw their curveball off of that. So saw if
he got a restive swings off of that slider from
the right handed batter and they looked like they were
on time a little bit more. He was able to
slow their gauge down a little bit more with that
big curve ball, and he was changing speeds I saw.
I think he ranged from ninety six mile an hour

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at the fastball last night to seventy six with that
curve ball, so at twenty plus mine hour. You know,
difference in those pitches. It's really challenging for a hitter
to try and be on time for everything when it
comes to that. The most success that I've seen players have,
it's eliminating pitches and eliminating zones. When you see a
pitcher executing really well on to off of the plate
for the outer half, as the right handed hitter, you

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almost have to eliminate that side of the plate. If
he's gonna land sliders low and away for strikes, give
it to him, wait for the mistake, and then don't
miss it when you get there. But I didn't see
many mistakes from shurez Er. Did his credit last night,
but I also saw over aggressive swings to the Mariners
and it stood out tremendously because I wrote my notes.
These Blue Jays just don't expand the zone. They are
stubborn that batter's box. When they get their pitch, they

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find barrels.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Yeah, Ryan Healy is with us here on check them
back in the morning as we break down last night's
loss to the Toronto Blue Jays. Eight to two is
the final score. I don't want to keep you on
this path of criticism if it makes you uncomfortable, but
base running and then also pitching and maybe pitching changed decisions,

(52:18):
just to get your wigh in on how Leo Revos
in that situation can get picked off of first, or
Josh Naylor can try to get the third base down
three in that situation, and then what you thought of
just overall the pitching plan last night from the Mariners.
They're just momentum killers.

Speaker 10 (52:36):
When you're getting you're creating outs on the base pass,
and to the Mariner's credit, they have been so aggressive
on the base pass this entire postseason and it's working
their favor tremendously. I'm a little more critical of Reevoskin
picked off in that situation. For me, that just can't happen.
It looked like he got a little stagnant, the feet
weren't moving, and when he did slide back, the dirt
pears a little wet. So you don't always get the

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you don't get the forward progress that you get if
you don't have momentum. So we kind of just stuck
when he dove back. And for me, Naylor, this one's
a coin flip. For me, I could be critical the
situation and say, how do you not know where the
right fielder is and you're not reading that ball because
it's kind of to your right as you're making the move,
and now you're picking up the third base coach. I
didn't see what the third base coach's decision was in
that moment. So a lot going on. But I would

(53:19):
never be the guy to tell Josh Naylor to pull
the reins back on the bass pass, because yes, he's
the bottom five sprint speed in the big leagues, but
he also had thirty plus stolen bases, and you remember
he stole third base against Terrek Google in the Alds
that put him in an RBA situation with less than
one out on third base. It was tremendous. I can't
pull the reins back on him. Yes, the situation in

(53:40):
the moment in the game was critical. That was frustrating
when it comes to the pitching side, though, I understand.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Why Dan Wilson made the moves he did. He was
learning from the night before.

Speaker 10 (53:48):
Do you guys remember in the game in the DS
HOW Game I fifth inning was just so decisive for
almost every game. It feels like the third ending is
very decisive for this series so far, at least what
we've seen at the home games in Seattle. He was
being aggressive with getting to a bullpen that was fresh.
I didn't mind it. Obviously, Spire walking the guy there
was an ideal and then he got out of it.
That was a good minimization. That was a great adjustment

(54:09):
from the night before. It didn't end up working out.
But realistically, then if we're not gonna get in men
on days and keep them on base and move.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Them around, what are we gonna do? How are we
gonna score runs?

Speaker 10 (54:19):
But like you think about him andez him and it's
in a two run homer, then exit Batty comes up
one out runner or no outs run on second base.
Let me bunch him over, like, I just don't see
that same effort of I know every run really counts
in this game.

Speaker 6 (54:30):
Right now, I'm with you, Well, I guess moving forward
it still is to too, even though you know, I
think if some people thought, well, we got this series
wrapped up after you win, to it their place, and
then there's people that are jumping off the ship now
thinking well we screwed.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
We're screwed.

Speaker 6 (54:44):
Now we're cursed, and yet he is still it's win
two out of three. Find a way. We got Bryce
Miller going up against their ace. What's the game plan
with their ace? He he pitched well against us, we
end up getting, you know, hanging him with a loss.
But he didn't pitch poorly. He kind of has that
s he likes to throw it down below the zone.
Cow went down and dug one out first game. What's

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the game plan that if you're one of the hitting coaches,
you're saying, hey, we got to do this against this guy.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Get that split up or what.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (55:13):
I think the elevation I actually have a good feeling
about tonight just because of how well they handled Scubable,
especially in that the game two of the DS meaning
they were able to eliminate the bottom below part of
the strike zone with that really good change that the
Terrek has. If they can push Kevin Gossman up in
the zone, be on time for his heater, and just
respond to react to those those hanging splits that I

(55:34):
know he's gonna throw, at some point, we're gonna be
in good shape here. This is a lot of pressure
falling on Bryce Miller, and I don't know if he's
gonna view this pressure as an opportunity, but he's been
great this postseason, so I have a lot of confidence
with him.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
Tonight.

Speaker 10 (55:46):
We don't win unless we can minimize, you know, this
Toronto offense, if we can keep the runners off of
the base pass, if we can not give them for
the free passes, if we can minimize the leadoff extra
base hits, because every time they hit a leadof double,
you're just like, you know, that's gonna be a run.
They're gonna bunch of more. They're gonna get him in
because they don't strike out. This is gonna be a
dogfight from innings one through nine. And for some reason,

(56:07):
us attacking early and scoring early in the game, it's
not phasing the Blue Jays and then when they punch back,
it's phasing us. So how do we respond after we
absorb a blow and exchange them a little bit to
the middle part of the inning because I love to
see high leverage bullpen arms come in set in eight
nine and have it be a little more meaningful.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
I'm wondering, We're all wondering how to use Brian Wu.
I mean, you don't have all the information at your fingertips,
but obviously they've they've sent him to the bullpen in
Game three and didn't you didn't get him up last
night he was warming up and they decided not to
use him. I mean, there's no ideal situation. I mean,
at some point you're just gonna have to throw him

(56:44):
into this baptism by fire kind of situation here in
the American League Championship Series. And so how long do
you go Rice Miller today? What's the what's the hook
rate here for for for Miller today? And then is
this the day that you think maybe Brian Wu makes
his first appearance. I hope so. I would love to

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see Wu.

Speaker 10 (57:07):
I think that would be a lift for this team
in the meat of the game here in that four
or five six inning window. I would love to see
Bryce get through the line up twice execute his pitch
as well like he's done. I also think there's been
a lot of predictions for what's starting pitching he's gonna
do in this series, and every time we predict something
complete oposit happens. They were talking about the broadcast last night.
This series, this al just postseason in general has just

(57:28):
been wild. And I haven't experienced this as a player
up to this point. But I have zero control over
the outcome of this game, and I'm strictly observing and
hoping for the Mariners and wanting the Mariners to win.
But when you see the games unfold, you just don't
know what's gonna happen. So I'd love to see Bryce
Miller go for me. They need to get Brian wu
a clean inning, like having him come in from the
bullpen for clean inning, and then if we can target

(57:49):
two innings, awesome. But they're being very close to their
chests with the information. I saw Dan Wilson's interview postgame
asked that same exact question, and his answer was, we'll
do it.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
When the time is right.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
It's like, what is the right time let's start guessing.
I don't know. Yeah, you called them a saint earlier
this week. Yeah, Ryan Heally called Brian will a saint.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Well it's like Dorothy Mantooth. You know Dorothy Mantooth is
a saint.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
Yeah, well he needs to we need to see the saint.

Speaker 6 (58:18):
Then at some point when it comes to just uh overall,
the pressure that starts to mount, right, I mean you
kind of feel like they had the pressure after we
go take two at their place. Now they've they've you know,
returned the favor to some degree. Is there pressure on
the Mariners or is there does this team think? I mean,
you know a lot of these guys. Do they just

(58:39):
have the a let's just get back to approaching the
game that we're supposed to grind out better at bats
and then execute when it when the time comes. Or
is there are they starting to feel a little bit
of pressure.

Speaker 10 (58:50):
I think they felt pressure all season, especially in the
second half. Like the pressure has been present, and I
guess I'm gonna give them the benefit of a doubt
because they've responded to that pressure every single time, not
to perfection, but especially late in the year when they
went to Houston and s what the Astros that was pressure,
and they executed Game five in the DS when they
played fifteen innings. Everyone of those innings was pressure. They
responded to this pressure. How they respond tonight it's going

(59:12):
to be really important. But you can see body language
from players right now that are frustrated with their results.
Like JP Crawford was one last night who flew out
on a Fastball's a good pitch to hit, flew out
the center field and wanted to break his bat into
seventeen thousand pieces and kind of resisted and controlled himself
to just set it down. But you can just like
feel the frustration transform into disappointment in the moment, and

(59:35):
then you have those destructive thoughts as just baseball players,
because this game is filled with failure. And then it's
the going home and being able to sleep and come
back tomorrow on how do we project some energy in
this clubhouse? They have the guys to do that, and
I think that the way they conduct themselves today, the
conversations that they have, the way they communicate with each other,
how are we going to win this day, this game today,
or how are we going to win this first inning?

(59:56):
You can't go win this game in the first pitch.
So how do we go dominate this first pitch that
we can do at one pitch at a time and
then ultimately win this game.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Well, I know the famous Ted Lasso line about be
a goldfish, and I don't really know soccer all that well,
so I don't know how often a soccer player has
to forget about the mistake that they just made. But
I do know baseball players, and it's just a it's
an entire career, it's a lifetime of failure and having
to not let that win the moment. I mean when

(01:00:26):
you think about it, when you do step back at
it and look at a big picture. Ryan, Yeah, you've
lost two games in lopsided fashion, but they only count
as two losses. And right now you've got a best
of three series to get to the World Series for
goodness sake. So I don't know if sure there's pressure,
but I would think I'm waking up this morning at

(01:00:46):
home a chance to get the first leg of that
two out of three to get to the World Series,
and I am pumped. I am jacked when I go
to the ballpark today, one hundred percent.

Speaker 10 (01:00:57):
I was talking with the mentor mine recently just about
the different mind sets of baseball players have, and you
kind of go from like distractive thoughts to destructive thoughts
to productive thoughts and the possible thoughts, like how do
we get through that phase of right now? They're probably
a little more destructive. They're not distracted because they're focused.
They're destructive thoughts of the failure. How do we get
them to the productive thoughts of what do I need
to execute in this moment? And then how do I

(01:01:17):
start focusing on what's possible? Well, it's a two two series, boys,
it is possible we go to the World Series. We
can win a two out of three World Series. We've
done it multiple times this season. How do we bring
some of that optimism today and not over forcing the positivity,
but the belief of anything as possible. We've seen that
through four games of this series. We saw that on
the DS. Let's believe that today is possible and let's

(01:01:38):
go execute. And I know that's what's going on in
the clubhouse because they got some guys with experience not
only have done with the Mariners, but other teams that
won World Series. I thought that Mitch Garver talked about
how the Rangers. I believe they lost three straight to
the Dbacks when they were in Texas and then went
back to Arizona won the World Series. So there's experience
in this and guys have been through it. So how
they handle it today, I'm excited to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
All right, Well, thanks for joining us. Sorry we didn't
have any surprises, but now that we know that you
like them behind it. Yeah, if you end up having
like a six foot cake delivered to your house later
on today, boy, you're not gonna know who's gonna pop
out of that thing. Bucky. You don't fit into six
foot cake. Now, it won't be Bucky. No, he won't

(01:02:19):
make it. I'll all right, man, Thank you. Have a
great weekend, great stuff all week long. We really appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
All right, Ryan Ay late joining us right here on
Chuck and Buck in the morning. Coming up next, we're
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Speaker 9 (01:03:38):
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Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Oh wow, Ash fired up coming in hot We're gonna
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Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:03:53):
Oh, now, I know everyone loves a motivational speech, So Mariners,
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Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
Chuck buck Listen up.

Speaker 9 (01:04:04):
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it to yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
That doesn't work like that?

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
Oh did that not help me feel inspired?

Speaker 9 (01:04:15):
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Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
God?

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
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Speaker 9 (01:04:18):
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Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
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Speaker 9 (01:04:23):
We're two wins away from that thing. I cannot say,
but Rhyme's with merled furies. Now is the time to
get it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
The f done. Fans, you have crushed it this postseason.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Yes, fans, you have done your part.

Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
I have no doubt you will bring it again tonight, Mariners.
This one is actually up to you, guys.

Speaker 7 (01:04:42):
You.

Speaker 9 (01:04:42):
Yeah, the fans can't win this game for you. They
can cheer you along, support you, but this one's on you.

Speaker 4 (01:04:49):
Bryce.

Speaker 9 (01:04:50):
You've got this Cal, You've got this big Julio. Protect
that no fly zone like it's nobody's business. Randy, run fast,
catch things, hit them.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Too, and maybe don't have horrible at bats.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Jor, Hey, we know you got this,
mister October. Yeah, he's bringing it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
JP.

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
I want more of that fielding from last night.

Speaker 9 (01:05:19):
Let's go, man, Josh, I heart you, please be awesome tonight, Gino,
I want all the good vibes and all the bass hits.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
I could use more base hits than good vibes right now.

Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
Actually, you know what, if you do the base hits,
the good vibes come.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Let's let's concentrate on big hits.

Speaker 9 (01:05:37):
Big hits, bring the vibes, Leo, Victor Gerber and everyone else.
We need runs, like the great Jabuner once said, runs,
runs and more runs.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
Bullpen, can you hear me?

Speaker 9 (01:05:58):
We need to see straight fire from your majestic arms today,
straight fire.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Let's do this.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Yeah, might as well win this whole game.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Today, you just go to bullpen. Can you hear me?
Hear me?

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Like second creepiest thing I've heard on air today, not.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
Even remotely close. Thank goodness, thank goodness.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
All right, well, well done, thank you. We needed that
kick in the pants, yep, I'm here to deliver it.
We needed this stiff, creamy drink.

Speaker 4 (01:06:38):
Yeah, kick in the stomach.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Look, it's it's like I said before. You know, as
tough as it's been, the twisting, winding road that only
the Seattle Mariner Organization can create, Baseball's proven that momentum
is a fleeting thing, and it can turn on a dime.
This series has already turned on a dime twice. Yeah,
for goodness sake, and so you are facing I don't

(01:07:04):
care what you've gone through. It's a three game series
with the first one at home to go to the
World Series. So I don't want nerves. I don't want trepidation.
I don't want to think about last night or the
night certainly don't want the players thinking that way. Go
out there and win two out of three games, and
let's go to the World Series. For goodness sake, I

(01:07:25):
mean that's all it comes down to. You work your
entire life for this moment. So win two out of three.
Who wouldn't want kill to be two out of three
away from getting to the World Series. That's what we
got in front of us tonight. Let's go, Bryce.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
Are you saying they should seize the moment?

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Yeah, seize the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
It is the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Go take advantage right there in front of you. Yeah,
go get it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
Who wants it more? All right?

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Go ahead? All right, I have a great weekend. We
will talk down the postgame show, Bucky and I. We'll
be back here Monday morning at six Am, and come
up next. That guy in there, Christopher Kidd with Mark
James on Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ RFM,