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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
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Speaker 3 (00:15):
Excited for the opportunity, So yeah, uh, I think it's
a I guess that's a great opportunity. And obviously you
know plush this one. You know been been here before
and the and uh you know around before. So I
try to take that to our advantage and and come
out ready to go tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
I love the team down for sure. Wanted to win
it tonight and I have a great opportunity, but it's
on me. But the team's got a ton of play.
I think I believe we're gonna bounce back like we've
done all year.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
And it's a game seven tomorrow. And obviously you th today,
how difficult is that to sort of be sitting and
watching and not being able to help my cycling. Yeah,
as it started to get pretty much one shot with
was today.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
Uh, obviously we wanted to make it happen lunch and
be done with it, but just didn't do my job.
I'll show up in sporteen tomorrow and I know.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
A lot of guys in this room that have a
ton of fight, they're gonna step up tomorrow. So I
think they're gonna pick me up big time.

Speaker 5 (01:09):
Where do you think the mental fortitude of this team.

Speaker 6 (01:11):
Is right now?

Speaker 1 (01:13):
I mean it's Game seven.

Speaker 7 (01:14):
I think everyone's gonna come in tomorrow the same as.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
We came in the start of the postseason. We just
want to win every single day, every inning, every single pitch,
and have fun while doing so, even if we're down. No,
there's no kind of give up attitude. We're just we're
really resilient and it's going to be a fun day tomorrow.
We're all excited for it. Well, tomorrow is today now,

(01:37):
Game seven today, five o'clock. George Kirby versus Shane Bieber
about everyone, Like the old line from The Professional when
Gary Oldman's like, give me everyone, everyone, sir, everyone.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
We gotta find that clip. I want to play it. Yeah,
that's what it's gonna be like tonight. You heard from
cal there, you heard from Logan there, Logan really taking responsibility.
Let's pick him up. He's so nice. Let's pick up
Logan who did not have a good performance last night
and maybe shouldering too much of the responsibility for last

(02:16):
night six to two loss. But that's where we set.
Game number seven of the American League Championship Series tonight
in Toronto. Loser goes home, the winner goes to the
World Series to meet the Los Angeles Dodgers starting on Friday.
Greg Bell's going to join us here in a moment.
Let me rip through your frost brewed cors Light choose
chill headlines. Sounders went over the over New York City

(02:39):
two to one on Saturday. They now know that they
are going to start their playoff Monday week from today
at Minnesota against Minnesota United. Tomorrow is the start of
the NBA season, but who has time to talk about it?
In the NHL Cracking back in action Tonight on this
road trip, they'll be in Philadelphia. They'll drop the pucket
four o'clock against the Flyers. Got you covered here on

(03:01):
the flagship KJR. They're off to a three to zero
and two start, and apparently I've decided to play all
of their games in overtime and even shootouts. That's what
they're going to do for the entire season. Good plan.
Michigan got excuse me, Michigan mauled the Huskies on Saturday,
so you dub fails to get that big signature win

(03:21):
on the road under Jed Fish, it still is out there, lingering.
Michigan jumped into the top twenty five. Obviously, the Huskies
did not receive votes. Meanwhile, there was a shakeup in
college football, couple of undefeated teams, including number two Miami,
losing over the weekend. Indiana is now the new number two,
trailing only Ohio State atop the polls. National Football League,

(03:45):
it felt like separator week in the NFL. Some contenders
and pretenders met up and they were separated by the
outcomes of some blowouts on Sunday. And of course Mike
McDaniel is on job watch there in Miami. But the
week is not over. Tonight two Monday night football games,
so one will feature Detroit and Tampa Bay maybe in

(04:08):
the conversation for the do best teams in the NFC.
The other involves our Seahawks hosting the Houston Texans. To
join us to talk about it is our Seahawks insider
Greg Bell lots to do here today. What do you
think Game seven? What's your gut feel?

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Man? Great, biggest game in Maren's history. I think George
Kirby has a short hook to say the least I
would have. I'd like to see Luis Castilla started games
like this. Like I said that earlier in the series.
I think Castilla is going to enter quickly early in
the game and he could be a big week key
for them. Man Carrero, he's a problem. That's that's a problem.

(04:50):
I say, they do it the hell this is. This
team is desite everybody anyway. It was never gonna be easy.
They were going, he's gonna do it the hard way.
I said, they do it. What do you say?

Speaker 8 (05:01):
Yeah, well, I mean I think they most certainly can.

Speaker 9 (05:04):
It's got to go out next to you obviously, play
a cleaner game than they saw yesterday. Yeah, when you're
watching that, I mean, you chalk that up to nerves
just I don't know, just just natural that happens in baseball.
What's your thoughts on how they played so sloppy.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, some of it.

Speaker 10 (05:21):
Has to be nerves right there in the customs and
something they've never done before. And they talked about it
after Game five in the clubhouse. They were talking about it. Yeah,
we know we've never been here and we're not shout
away from that. We know that, and then Juli Rodriguez
talked openly about that. So it wasn't just another game,
but a lot of games that happens, just in a
crucible like that. When it happens, it gets magnified and

(05:43):
then momentum and crowd and Toronto.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Just butchers every mistake you make. I think all that
had to do with it. But I would hope that
with some of it was nerves and that's not gonna
get any less. Nervous attens tonight.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, but you know, whenever they get back in the corner,
it's usually when they play their best. As you pointed
to a little bit earlier. It just it's a strange team.
They don't do anything easy, that's for sure. No, no,
how are you going to manage this today? So you're
in Toronto? Now, what's going on with Seahawks coverage from
the news.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Well, the News Tribune decided that I'm gonna and I
get it. The Seahawks beat writers.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
So I'm going to cover the Yeah, okay, I got.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Back at three in the morning. I'm gonna cover the
Seahawks game. And yeah, if if the Mariners pull this off,
I'll be in Dodger Stadium and this weekend.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Okay, look at that? Do you like that? Are you
having fun with it? Being the ide on Sanders some sports.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Coverage, It's fun. I'd rather be in Toronto, honestly, personally?
Is it just a sports fan and a person who
appreciates big events. I'd try to be in Game seven,
but I get it. It's my first job. And there's
some faith in those the news tribunes saying, well, just
go to the World Series, Greg, We'll just save it
for that.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Okay, okay, all right, it's fun.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
No, it's fun, and I love Toronto and I love Yeah,
it's great. And I've got to actually spend Saturday in
most of Sunday in Boston with my daughter, head of
the Charles Regatta, which is amazing event. Three hundred thousand
people come to watch. It's amazing on the bridges and
it was a beautiful New England weekends. And I'm very fortunately.

(07:22):
I love my job and I love the news tribute
for send I mean, give me opportunities to cover great,
great things.

Speaker 8 (07:28):
That Friday night game, Yeah.

Speaker 11 (07:29):
That Friday game is probably the second loudest building I've
been in.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
The first was the Kingdom for Edgar's double, but that
was close to that with the with the Grand Slam.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
That was remarkable. Yeah, some good stuff. And we're we're yeah,
we were so fixed here on a Monday morning on
what just most recently happened. We spent a little bit
of time on Friday. But man, was that a great night?

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (07:52):
And man, we're May and Her fans fired up afterwards.
All right, Well, you know, I.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Want to say what I don't bry it that it
doesn't matter if they don't win, but that that.

Speaker 11 (08:01):
Grand Slam didn't matter and none of that.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
No one will remember that, no way. This team, every game,
every game they win at this point is team history
and that will always be the Geno Slam will go
down in Seattle sports history like Sherman's tip and Edgar's double.
And yeah, if they don't go to the World Series,
it doesn't mean that that didn't happen and that the

(08:24):
building didn't shake, because it did. The stadium literally shook.
I was sitting in it, and it was the loudest,
one of the loudest moments in Seattle sports history. And yeah,
I wouldn't just say wow, it's a wasteed win. Tonight.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, yeah, you're right, You're right, and we need to
give it its due because that was a remarkable, remarkable moment,
no question about it. So is the ground going to
shake tonight? You're a looming field. It's a Monday night football.
I mean, you got the baseball team kind of going
up against it for part of the game tonight. But
no doubt Mike McDonald wants to get back this legendary

(08:59):
home home field advantage. Yeah, they've turned into a great
road team here under his watch, but I'm sure that
he wants he wants to match that fervor tonight against
the Texans.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
I think it'll it'll only shake if the Manors win.
During the first or second quarter of the Seahawks game,
there'll be a lot of people tuning into their phones
and watching the game, one eye on the Seahawks and
one and a half eyes on the Manor. They're nine
and eleven at home. The Seahawks are since twenty twenty three,
nine and eleven.

Speaker 11 (09:32):
I mean, that's like the New York Jets might have
a record probably worth well, it's.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Nine and eleven without having a bad team, Like that's
the that's what you got.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Ten win team exactly, and the team that before that
had nine wins and exactly, you can say it's inexplicable.
When they don't play well, they lose. And a lot
of times they don't play well on defense at home.
Look at the Tampa Bay game. We've talked about this.
They've yet to play a complete game.

Speaker 11 (10:00):
They haven't run the ball that would sure help Houston tonight.
Mike McDonald talked about this this week in Houston's defense
happened to lead the league and points allowed, and they
just went to Baltimore before they're buying forty four to ten.
They beat the Ravens, and we know the Ravens have problems,
but McDonald, you for sure, has given full attention to
that and shown his team.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
The tape of that. But they only give up twelve
points a game on defense. And McDonald's saying that their
pass rush is unique. It is different than what the
Seahawks especially do, is that they run vertically straight up
the field.

Speaker 11 (10:34):
They have Will.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Anderson and the former Minnesota Viking his name is escaping
right at the top of him. As soon as I
wrote about him, lest Daniel Hunter, Daniel Hunter, thank you,
and former pro bowler with the Vikings. He's leading the team.
He's got four sacks and five games. Will Anderson has
three sacks. Those guys run straight up the field, so

(10:56):
they're not.

Speaker 12 (10:56):
Worried about rush gap integrity or the gap they might
have the lanes, how wide the lane might be inside
of them from the quarterback to step, and they're running
straight up the field and trying to have the offensive
tackle beat you to the spot basically.

Speaker 11 (11:10):
And so McDonald's was saying, how that's got his attention,
the way they passed rush so vertically up the field
so quickly, And that's what puts the big onus on
Abe Lucas and Charles Cross outside of tackles. I would
expect them, especially with Lucas, to help chip him with
tight end. Might see two tight ends a lot when
they throw tonight to help Lucas in particulars have some

(11:33):
troubles in one on one pass rush. But that's a key,
big key tonight is how they.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Handle the vertical, quick upfield pass rush.

Speaker 11 (11:40):
That the Texans have.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
And I keep saying it, but they're going to try
to run the ball, and they're gonna try to run
the ball against all defenses. Good in this one we'll
see if tonight's tonight they finally get the running game
going consistently. When I look at numbers and see that
they're twenty fourth in the NFL, they seem worse than
that against the run rushing the ball, don't. It doesn't
seem like I mean, there's only been one one hundred

(12:04):
yard rushing day by a Seahawk and that was way
back in Week two for Kenneth Walker against the Steelers.
At seventy nine of his one hundred and five happened
in the second half that night that day in Pittsburgh.
They're gonna keep running. It is tonight the night they
finally get some traction running the ball against a really
active pass defensive pass rush for Houston.

Speaker 8 (12:25):
Do they have to be successful at it?

Speaker 9 (12:27):
Or is just showing it, you know, being consistent in
showing it and trying it enough. I mean, because the
numbers are starting to look like that. You know, Sam
Darnold's having a good year and he's doing really well
in play action passing. So is it necessary for them
to be successful running or do they just have to
keep being committed to it and making sure that it's honored.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
I think it is Bucky and they say it is
They say they they not only they want to, they
need to because how they're built. It's what the system
is predicated on. You look at their play actions and passes,
and well just quick game for instance, in bubble screens
or a quick slam patterns. Is there anything that's a

(13:09):
quick game pass game. What has happened often is that
the line of scrimmage is just there's no room. There's
no room to run, there's often no room to throw.
The teams sometimes stack the box against them and added
after safety down to the box. That is some of
the reasons, in simple terms, why they've thrown the ball

(13:30):
down the field. There's more room down there, and they've
had time throwing the ball because the offensive line has
done pretty well in pass protection. You could make the
case that they had what are you talking about, Well,
they don't need to run the ball. Look at Donald's
are almost seventy percent passer and he's nine almost ten
yards a throw, which is leaving the league. Well, I

(13:54):
don't think this is sustainable against San Francisco in the RAMS.
I keep saying this, but they ain't going anywhere till
they beat San Francisco in the Rams and they didn't
beat San Francisco. They should have did. And I hadn't
play the Rams yet, but they're win the division until
they do, and I don't think they can win the division.
Just smoking mere for pretending wink wink to run the ball.
They've got of control games against those teams running the football.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
To me, all right, what's the latest on the injury front.
We got Spoon and Love back to Love and spoonful.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Nah, he had done that. It looked like middle of
the week. Yeah, they were both back to practice and
then they weren't practicing fully. They were unlimited by the
end of the week, and then they listened them as
questionable for the game tonight. McDonald. We asked him. He
was asked on Saturday after practice, did they have to
practice Witherspoon and Love? Do they have to do a

(14:45):
workout pregame to test these injuries to before they make
the decision, And that's usually the final step of guys
who were really on the cuss and McDonald said no,
which means they've already made up their mind. And I
think Spoon's case, they may not play him because there's
a buy coming up after this game and give him
two weeks off. Love seemed to be the Thursday when

(15:09):
I was out there at practice before the Mariners game,
Love was moving pretty well, and I know it's just
the beginning of practice. He looked though he running fluidly.
Didn't he looked like he was fully participating and started
practice and when I saw him Thursday, So he's playing.
So if you just had to tell, if you put
money down, what would you bet on? What would you

(15:30):
guess that Witherspoon won't play to get the extra two
weeks this weekend next because of the buye that Love
will play all right?

Speaker 1 (15:37):
So what's key tonight?

Speaker 2 (15:40):
The pass rush containing the outside eddresses. I said, I
think they're going to start running the ball at some
point in the season because they're going to commit to
but one of the offensive linemen going to push back.
The defensive is it going to be the number one
scoring defense, the fourth overall defense of the league. That's
their task tonight. That's the key tonight. And then defensively,

(16:03):
c J Stroud. Everyone thinks c J. Stroud has had
a terrible season because they started own three Texans have
won two in a row, and Stroud has eight touchdowns
and three interceptions and as a sixty five plus percent passer,
make him make turnovers. He by pressuring him like any
quarterback who's prone the mistakes, but he is has faked

(16:24):
of turnovers at times. The pass rush had seven sacks
last week against Trevor Lawrence. I don't think they're getting
seven at night. I think that Stroud's going to be
more elusive than Trevor Lawrence was. So I'm expecting something
of a slog of a game both teams and the
team scoring and the Seahawks with some big play by
Donald the Smith and Jigbin the fourth quarter win some

(16:45):
like sixteen thirteen something like that.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Well, it's going to be a memorable evening in Seattle
sports here tonight.

Speaker 8 (16:51):
Yeah, no getting around that.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yes it is. We already had a memorable month, but yeah,
this is this is unique.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
All right, Greg, thank you, appreciate it, and we will
catch up tomorrow. All right, enjoy the game, all right,
Greg Bell Jet Center joining us right here on Chugubuck
in the mornings. Yes, he's been covering the Mariners postseason
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Speaker 7 (18:01):
Another two too, that's other spend trip the other.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
It matters.

Speaker 7 (18:27):
We've Game five, six to two.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
We spent pretty much our entire first hour today recapping
the frustration of game number six, and we're gonna spend
our entire eight o'clock hour kind of previewing the exhilaration
of game number seven. But man, we got to tuck
somewhere into this radio program this morning. Uh, the unbelievable

(18:54):
moment that was Game five and Ginos Wrez his grand
slam that it gave the team the lead at six
to two, trailed most of that game and then come
back there in the bottom of the eighth inning with
a five spot. Just incredible. You just heard the call
from Fox Sports. We were there in the building. The

(19:15):
place was shaking. That was one of the great moments
in Seattle sports history, authored by Geno Suarez, and all
the build up leading up to it, and then the
fanfare afterwards, I mean the energy that came bursting through
the doors. We went over like a half inning early
to get set up for the postgame show and then
to watch one marin or fan. I mean there were

(19:38):
fifty year old men coming out and then they're jumping
on each other, jumping on us, you know everything else.
It was fantastic Friday night.

Speaker 9 (19:45):
I mean, it's the biggest game, you know, to date
until today. I think today kind of trumps it just
because of the impact and how much is weighing on it.
And yet that one was after you went to their place,
lose to place that pivotal game, which is a game
five that then does allow one team the luxury of

(20:06):
playing a subpar ball game and still having a chance
to advance to the World Series.

Speaker 8 (20:10):
It was.

Speaker 9 (20:11):
It's as big as we've ever had here in Seattle
Mariner's history, in my opinion, And to find yourself down
and all of the little things that that you had
to do, that little moments in the game, the double
play where that line drive to Naylor, you doubled up
what's his name at second base, that other double play

(20:32):
that that col turned all of that, getting out of
that jam with the bases loaded, and you get out
of that whole thing. There were so many things that
were crazy. It's just this so oh my gosh, the
tension that was in the air, and obviously the crowd
was just on fire for what's going on. And then
for cal to hit the game tying home run, that
moonshot that almost hits the roof. And then Gino, the

(20:55):
guy that really hadn't checked in for the most part
throughout the postseason town.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
In the regular Sea yeah ye, since he's come here.

Speaker 8 (21:02):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 9 (21:03):
And yet he he checked in with the first pitch,
a home run that he'd hit earlier that kind of
gave us the lead. Then we relinquished that lead for
him to come up their bases loaded nowhere to put
him have a good ab. It wasn't just a first pitch,
you know, hacking and you run into one a good
ab and to go opo grand slam. I mean that
place it was literally shaking mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
And that was awesome. Yeah, it was incredible. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (21:27):
I was watching at home while hosting eight other children
for an eleven year old sleepover birthday party. I had
warned Palmer, Hey, by the way, just so you know, Palmer,
are great, there's a chance that the Mariners game is
going to be on in the living room if they're
playing on Friday night, so you just got to be prepared.
She's like, oh, that's fine, that's fine. Well, they were
running around screaming. Then a couple moms had stayed to

(21:49):
watch the game, and we'd be like when when Gino
got his first home run and when Cal got his
home run, and then they'd.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
All come running in.

Speaker 6 (21:57):
Yeah, they'd all jump up and down, and then they'd leave,
and then they'd hear something exciting, and then they'd all
come running in, and then they'd all jump up.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
And down, and then they believe.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah. I was more like, I know, I committed to this.

Speaker 8 (22:09):
We have to do it.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
But I am locking you guys in this room.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
I should have.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah, here's some snacks and some drinks. Yeah, and here's
some here's I got a honey pot for you, perfect
little portable toilet for you all. I don't even want
to see you. We're watching the game.

Speaker 13 (22:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (22:27):
Well, and that's the nice thing is at least no
one came in was like trying to have a dance
party in front of the TV.

Speaker 5 (22:31):
Or they all been kicked out.

Speaker 6 (22:33):
Oh, they were playing elsewhere until something exciting happened, then
they'd come running in.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Well, I really think that that cow moment, you know,
the one that brought rain that home run. I don't
know if I've ever seen a home run that was
longer in doubt. I mean, the anticipation of it, coupled
with the height of it, It was like, is this
gonna leave or not? Eventually gravity did reveal to us

(23:00):
that it was far enough, just far enough, And I
think it kind of unlocked that entire inning. Certainly, Gino's
going to have his place in Mariner's history forever with
the Grand Slam, But I kind of think that, like
the Cow moment is what it might have even been
a bigger moment because you had to have the run
to try to tie that thing up, and then I
think the rest of the lineup kind of relaxed after that.

(23:22):
Now Softy brought up in our post game show after
he spit in my mouth, Oh you liked it. Yeah,
it was accidental, but he did it. It happened. No, no,
it didn't really ask for it, kind of got ambushed.

Speaker 5 (23:36):
Frankly, would you ask for it next time?

Speaker 1 (23:38):
No, no, no, no, no, never asked for her before.
We'll never ask for the game. But he brought up
like he thought maybe the mood had changed with the
hit by pitch of George Springer, and we haven't really
discussed this yet. Look, John Schneider, forty thousand people weren't
cheering that George Springer was hurt. There were some, Yeah,
there were some. But when you have that many people

(24:01):
inside the building and there's that much intensity, and there's
that much of a downtime, and they already don't like
the guy.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
All right.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
I don't like the fact that we booed an injured player.
I don't think anybody should ever do that or cheer
an injured player. There was a little bit of mixture
of the two. I don't like that, but it happens
almost with every fan base at some point, and I
love that people found examples of when Toronto fans did
it to opposing players, not just in baseball, but in

(24:31):
a lot of different sports. So don't get on your
high horse hypocrites, you know. And John Schneider trying to
stir something that really wasn't there. And then last night
Springer takes a high pitch inside from Carlos Vargas and
all the fans were like, why are they throwing him?

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Now?

Speaker 1 (24:47):
All he did was get hit by a pitch. Hey,
Carlos Vargas has no idea where the ball is going.
That was so unintentional that I can't even express it
to you. But Johnder's trying to use that, I guess
has a little bit of fuel whatever it takes to
get them across the finish line. But I think being

(25:07):
a little melodramatic. If you ask me, you're not even
the best John Schneider in sports.

Speaker 9 (25:12):
Yeah, and that's tough to do. Whan it's not that
common of a name. But I do think it was
completely overblown the whole there's yeah, some people don't like him.
I don't like him. He was an astro that he
was part of the cheating scandal. I don't I don't
ever wish injury upon someone that said I don't have
one bit of remorse about him getting hurt.

Speaker 8 (25:33):
He didn't get injured. He got hurt. It hurt him, Ali,
you'll get over it. It hit him in the knee.

Speaker 9 (25:39):
If it hit him in the face and people were
cheering it or or whatever, I'd be like, come on,
you got to check yourself. That's that's a totally different
hit him in the knee, and so get off your
high horses, right, nobody's nobody's too good to to be
able to call everybody out for something you think is
not nice. I agree, it's not nice to do it,
and yet at the same time, when you do, you

(26:00):
find yourself in George Springer situation, you're gonna have people
that just dislike you, period. Even though he might be
a really good dude. I'm sure that he probably is
a really good dude and a good teammate. But it's
sports hate. And so he got hitting the knee.

Speaker 8 (26:14):
It is. It wasn't a grenade.

Speaker 9 (26:16):
I don't think Brian Wu switched the baseball into a
grenade that blew his knee up. He played the very
next game, so yeah, tell me it's kind of stop.

Speaker 13 (26:26):
Well.

Speaker 6 (26:26):
And also I'm sure that some of the cheering to
start was that he got hit from Blue Jays fans
because now he's on base, which you I mean, Randy
got hit and everyone even Randy cheered when he got
hit and went to first base and so and then
the other part of the booing, too was Blue Jays
fans booing Brian wu for hitting him. So it was
a combination of things, and John Schneider decided to make
it all about people being He decided to George Springer.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Stir up the hornets nest in his press press conference afterwards,
I will say this, maybe you know, George Springer, I mean,
if he would have really been fortunate, he would have
got base and found that there was a barber shop
there so that they could fix that horrible hair of his.
All right, coming up next, we're gonna preview game number seven,

(27:10):
and Ryan Healy's going to be joining us at eight
point thirty. We'll get his thoughts on how the series
is unfolding. Here we go, People Sports Radio ninety three
point three KJRFM.

Speaker 9 (27:20):
Yeah, I was feeling that after the two zero, Yeah,
let's let's lose a couple and then we get to
Game five where it's everybody's like, man, this guy's falling,
and then they'll seize the opportunity.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Look, I mean, it's not like the Mariners just cornered
the market on big games that you played where you
don't show up and play your best. When I grew up,
every Super Bowl was a blowout. Like ten straight years,
it was nothing but blowouts. The AFC didn't seem like
it could compete with the NFC. So it's not like

(27:52):
every team that ever arrives for the biggest game that
they've played that year or in a while hasn't laid
an egg on an occasion. And I think that the
Mariners did last night. They just did not play well.
They've had a couple of those games in this series
where we're sitting there like, now, now you're gonna play
that poorly? What the hell's going on? But I will

(28:13):
say every time that they have been pushed to the brink,
whether it's regular season or postseason, they tend to respond
when they are up against it, just like they did
in Game number five, and there were some tenuous moments,
looked like it was going to get away several times
in Game five against the Detroit Tigers, but they pulled
it out. So you know, call it what you will.

(28:36):
But here we are to Game number seven, coming off
a lackluster performance in Game number six, and I expect
them to be sharp tonight and I expect them to
pull out the victory tonight.

Speaker 9 (28:46):
Yeah, frankly, yeah, well, I mean, yesterday felt worse than
six to two because of the ugliness in which like
made it turn into six to two, the way in
which it happened, and then the letdown when your expectations
are high for a guy like Logan overt and he
goes out there and doesn't look sharp, and then you
compound that with poor defense behind him, and then you

(29:06):
know them taking advantage of poor pitches and situational baseball
that we didn't play well and they did play well.
It felt worse than a six to two final. It
felt worse than just one loss in a game that
basically didn't decide your season but sends it to a
deciding Game seven for the first time ever in franchise history.

(29:26):
And yet there's so many little things that if it
just goes a little differently, I mean, the geno air uncharacteristic.
He's been pretty solid for the most part, and yet
I don't know for sure if if he clanks that ball,
if he's not thinking about looking the runner back. But
the reason he's thinking about looking a runner back is
because Julio clanked it out in center and turns a

(29:47):
single into a double. There's just little things like that.
Somebody had texted Cal screwed up big time swinging first
pitch with the bases loaded.

Speaker 8 (29:55):
No he didn't.

Speaker 9 (29:56):
He just didn't square it up perfect. He hit it hard,
one hundred mile an hour exit velocity. It just so happens.
If it's a foot further to Vladimir's right, it's two
RBIs aer scoring, two guys are scoring. If it's if
he catches it a half inch further down, it's a
line drive in the corner, two or three runs of
scorn a full inch lower down, and it's off. If

(30:18):
it's off the up in the cheap seat somewhere, and
you're celebrating Cal Rawley in the Year of Cal and
a Grand Slam, and we're maybe talking about punching our
ticket to the World Series. There's so many little things
in a game that it's like you can't just say, well,
they didn't do anything that was even remotely close to
resembling a team that deserves to go to the World Series.
They just didn't do enough little things, and the Toronto

(30:40):
Blue Jays did. Today's a new day starts zero zero.
They don't get a carryover from yesterday, and you just
got to go out there and prove that you're better.

Speaker 8 (30:48):
There's gonna be about one hundred days.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Strange. It does seem strange though, that they could have
stinkers like that when they don't absolutely have to have it,
and then when they do have to have it, then
everything because to me, the Julio error was a lack
of focus. That's a routine high hopper easily caught and
he didn't squeeze the ball. Gino was a lack of focus.

(31:12):
I was worried more about the runner than I was
making the play. Leo Revos, JP Crawford base running, lack
of focus. I don't know if Logan's I think we
just chalked that up to just a bad day for Logan.
Gilbert out on the mound, but I don't fear that
that's going to carry over into tonight because I've seen
too much history of them. You know, when it absolutely

(31:36):
does matter, everything gets tightened up. It does mystifying to
me how you could play so loose and so sloppy
and so non focused with so much at stake where
your one went away from the World series. But maybe
they do need that extra push, Maybe they do need
that extra little bit of pressure in order for them
to be lasered in. And I expect them to be

(31:57):
lasered in because I've watched them do it time and
time again.

Speaker 6 (32:00):
Yeah, I don't expect to see them come out tonight
looking like they did last night by any means. We
did also get a text of someone saying, well, clearly
they just didn't care.

Speaker 5 (32:08):
They don't care anymore. It's like, okay, that's absurd.

Speaker 6 (32:11):
Yeah, that's basically what I wrote back, like that's one
of the most ridiculous things, and the person did right back.
I think I'm just venting night, you know, And I
understand every fan is going through an entire lifetime of
a roller coaster of emotions today, So I get it.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
You're they don't make it easy on you. No, I'll
give you that.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
No they don't, and it's gonna continue.

Speaker 6 (32:30):
I mean, you've got nine more hours of this roller
coaster just till the game starts, and then they're gonna
take you on a roller coaster during the game.

Speaker 5 (32:36):
So just buckle up and.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
It's gonna be a blast. And Bucky's pointed this out
a lot, and maybe we're in four. I mean, Game
five was unbelievable and Game five, and I'm talking about
this series is Game five. Last series is Game five
was one of the most unforgettable sporting events you're ever
gonna watch. Yeah, And so you know, it will all
be worth it if we pull it out to be

(33:00):
taken to this level of stress too, for Softy to
have to, you know, have to basically watch tonight's game
with an EMT. Yeah you know, yeah, I think you
just put him on a drip bag and let's go. So,
I mean, it's all gonna be worth it if we
get another one of these unforgettable decisive games victories. You know,

(33:24):
it was worth watching the team kind of fumble away
a chance to win it in six last night, because
I kind of felt like that's what they did. They
just were not nearly they didn't play nearly as well
as the team that they faced, and it shouldn't have
even been as close as it actually was. There were
a couple of times we had a chance to get
back into that thing and grounded into double plays. So

(33:45):
you know, it'll all be worth the ride as long
as we punched that ticket and advance to the World Series.

Speaker 9 (33:51):
Yeah, And the unfortunate possibility is the reality of you
played you know, you played one too many games with
you know, kind of a lackluster performance as far as
the outcomes and the process and the approach and all
that kind of stuff. You could find yourself looking back,
what if, what would it?

Speaker 8 (34:09):
Could have? Should have?

Speaker 9 (34:10):
And and so I mean, you play with fire. I
don't want to say giveaway games, but you give away
moments in games that could be tide turning, and you
can get burnt.

Speaker 8 (34:21):
You play with fire, you can get burnt.

Speaker 9 (34:23):
So it's one of those I'm not over the top confident,
But then again, I wasn't over the top confident coming
back to zero. At the same time, when we lost
the first two games, I wasn't like, oh this game,
this team's cooked, They're not as good. All of the
same things that we go through as a fan base.
There's a difference because we've never been to the World Series,
so there's a different type of weight that kind of

(34:43):
weighs on us. And you see that in Softy's face
when you talk to him, and you know how he's
on the verge of tears NonStop because of how much
it means to him. That said, every fan base goes
through these little things that is just.

Speaker 8 (34:56):
Like how can he do that?

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Or how why did he do that? We heard of
that a lot, you know last night from the crowd.

Speaker 9 (35:03):
Everybody. Everybody does it. Everybody has it. They're humans, they're
not They're out there trying to entertain us, and whether
you believe it or not, they care a lot. They
care a lot a lot about whether or not they
can come through for themselves, for the team, for the city.
They want this just as bad as you do. Even

(35:25):
if you've been a fan for fifty years. I've been
a fan for fifty years. I can tell you for
sure that if I was in that dugout, I would
care just as much as anybody else would have cared.
That's on the outside looking in. They just from time
to time don't show up.

Speaker 8 (35:38):
And play the way that they're capable of.

Speaker 9 (35:40):
But I think tonight's a night where there's not going
to be any lack of focus. But it's gonna come
down to who does the little things right, who does
them better? And if you can find yourself making your
twenty seven outs tougher than their twenty seven outs, you're
gonna find yourself getting to play for all the marbles.

Speaker 6 (35:55):
I just wonder how many times I'm gonna throw up
between now and five fourteen.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, at least at thirteen and a half. Yeah, I'm
taking the over I would, yeah, but yeah, Game six
felt sloppy. Game four they were just terrible. Game three
George kind of blew up, and that to me was
the key to that game. And now we put George
back out on the mound tonight in game number seven.
They have absolute faith in him. Otherwise they wouldn't have

(36:21):
put him in such pivotal positions to be the starting pitcher.
But as much faith as they have in George Kirby,
and I'm talking about the organization having in George Kirby,
I mean you're gonna see a game managed like you've
never seen before. I mean we've never had a game
seven I mean you saw a little bit you saw
it in game five. Certainly it's going to be that type.

(36:43):
But we have even more arms really at our disposal tonight.
The onlybody person that is not going to be available
is going to be Logan but Castile my pitch. Bryce Miller,
who's the only starter that's had any effectiveness against this lineup.
We might see him for a couple of bits. Brian
Woo's back, and he only pitched two innings the other night,

(37:04):
so I would imagine that he is available. I certainly
certainly Bizardo, even though he went two innings last night,
he's available. Even Caleb Ferguson might have to be used
at some point in this game in a very specific
situation early on. If you're gonna take George, if he
doesn't go deep into the game, I'd throw him in

(37:25):
there to get Addison Barger out. He has been killing
us both in the field and at the plate. And
if they want to pinch hit for Miles Straw and
the third inning against Caleb Ferguson, and it has to
be like two outs in the inning, I don't want
to set him up for having to get three outs.
Just get us out. Of this inning, get this guy
or get him out of the game. Addison Barger, I

(37:46):
don't mind throwing Caleb Ferguson into that specific situation and
then saving Gabe Spier for a later situation where they
stack lefties against us. I think everybody gets used tonight,
and so don't think we're going to see a three
hour game tonight, because I think there might be about
seventeen pitching changes combining the two teams.

Speaker 9 (38:07):
Well, I'm basically preparing myself for a seventeen inning game.

Speaker 8 (38:11):
I mean, I don't know if there's any more Mariner
way to do this, coming in.

Speaker 6 (38:15):
And doing the post game from here so that you
can just bleed it into the show in the morning.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Well, I'll say this, if it is seventeen innings, I
feel a lot better about our chances. Yeah, this is
that these are the games that we win. Let it
go forty nine innings, we'll win it.

Speaker 8 (38:27):
That's right.

Speaker 9 (38:31):
In the seventeenth inning Nails last night, Leo Revas went
nine perfect innings on the mound.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
We've never seen a lob pitch be more effective in
baseball history.

Speaker 8 (38:45):
I've been waiting my whole life for it.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Medio Ball Show for eight innings. The Mariners did the unthinkable.
They stranded twenty four base runners against Blue Jays pitching,
but they won it in the bottom of the thirty
one to nothing. This is a legends are made.

Speaker 8 (39:06):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
This is how heart attacks happen.

Speaker 8 (39:10):
You're ready for it. A lot going on.

Speaker 5 (39:15):
That is the thing. You have to be ready for
anything and everything.

Speaker 9 (39:18):
And if there's a team that I mean, I have
a hard time, like I don't watch every Toronto Blue Jays,
but I've watched every Mariner game pretty much for the
last few years. The idea of how many one run
games they play in that is a trial by fire
type of thing. I think that this team is kind
of forged in the fire. I think that they will
rise to the occasion tonight. Not that they're going against

(39:38):
a team that you're gonna be able to walk over,
because that team over there believes one hundred percent in themselves,
just like the Mariners do, and so you've got to
go take it, you've got to go win it. And
I just think that this team understands what it feels
like to have all the pressure, all the stuff on them,
and I think that they're I don't think they're going
to collapse under the pressure tonight.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
It was one of the craziest stats I've ever heard,
is the one that Kevin pointed out to us last
week where I didn't even realize just what attack mode
Toronto was in against George Kirby. So they got the
scouting report. Everybody in the league knows George Kirby hates
walking people, so he is going to come after you
and going to attack you. And the Blue Jays just

(40:17):
flipped the script on him. And we should have been
prepared for that. We should have been able to zig
to their zag. And they had eighteen hits against us
in that game, not all of them against George obviously,
but the mindset going into it was one that they
attached to having to face George Kirby. They had eighteen hits,
all within the first three pitches of the bat. I

(40:39):
mean when that was revealed to us, I mean, my
jaw hit the floor. So how are we going to respond?
How is George going to change his game up a
little bit? How long of a leash does he get tonight?
I mean, is it two base runners? He gives up
two base runners and the first is he coming out
of the game. I mean, we got we've got enough
that we can throw. We can probably throw thirty innings tonight,

(41:02):
much less nine. So we've got en off at our
disposal that we don't have to suffer through anybody struggle
at this point. So, I mean, just so much strategy
pouring into this. Does George then react to what they
did to him the last time? And then are they
prepared for that reaction from George Kirby? And then even

(41:24):
if he does get effective, I mean, how much wiggle
room do you give him? And any given time, if
he's through five and he's blowing through people and then
he gives up back to back runners in the sixth,
do you take him out? All of that goes into.

Speaker 6 (41:37):
To me, and all of it is gonna be questioned
if it doesn't go right well, And that's.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
The beauty of being a sports fan for sure.

Speaker 8 (41:43):
Yeah, that's the beauty. It's really annoying, but it is
the beauty of it.

Speaker 9 (41:46):
I to me, you pitch to the scoreboard, right, so
it start zero zero, so you pitch like every single
pitch is the difference in the game. And one thing
I mean I've thought it with from the beginning of
series that this team puts the ball in play, and
this team is going to be aggressive, because you should
be aggressive against the Mariner starters. You should be aggressive.

(42:09):
They are known for pounding the zone. They are known
for trusting their stuff. I don't want them to not
trust their stuff. I just want them to be careful, right,
And so there's a way you can throw a pitch
with convictions, saying I'm putting this right in up underneath
Vladimir Gurero's hands that top corner, and I'm hitting it,
and if I miss and it goes in, I don't
care if it hits them.

Speaker 8 (42:28):
Off is our elbow? Okay? Runner does it?

Speaker 13 (42:31):
Score?

Speaker 8 (42:32):
Does it hit his elbow? And he gets a jug
around the base?

Speaker 9 (42:34):
Says no, now, because the next guy's gonna come up
and I'm gonna dot it on the outside corner. If
I miss, I'm gonna miss down in a way. If
I fall behind, fine, I trust that I can make
another pitch. And if if there's one guy that I
have the most confidence that he can just paint the
box all the way around that box, it's George Kirby.
And yet he has to go out there thinking that

(42:54):
don't go out there thinking, remember when we heard it
was that Bryce Miller said he gave up that leadoff
home run, And we have a joke.

Speaker 8 (43:00):
That says, first pitch, all it doesn't count.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (43:02):
Yah, that's because they think rare back let it eat.
And you do that during the regular season because you
need to go deep. You can't say, well, if I
go four shutout innings and we get five out of
our bullpen every single night, you're not gonna have a
bullpen at the end of the year. You have to
go deeper than that. So you have to challenge guys
and hope they hit it at guys. That's not the
way you approach this game. You approach this game saying

(43:23):
I'm going to paint and if I miss, I'm missing
away from damage period. And if you walk a guy, fine,
just keep never give in, never give in, and you
have good enough stuff you don't have to give in.
And then if I think that their aggressiveness will go
work against them, then they might not swing at the
first one that's two inches off the plate away, put
another one that's one inch off the plate, ground ball

(43:45):
to second base. Don't say okay, well here you go,
here's a cookie. Because that one's gonna end up in
the gap. They're gonna be ready to rock and roll.
They're not going to change their game plan that worked
against you, So if you change yours, it's advantage George
Kirby and I think that he will.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Yeah, and zero worry about hitch count or anything like that.
You burn that building down. We don't worry about that
because we've got everybody that we can throw tonight. So
that's the time of night it's gonna be. We're gonna
be joined by Ryan Healy next. We'll get his thoughts
on game six Game seven Both Sports Radio ninety three
point three kJ RFM. Ashley, are you ready for a

(44:19):
Game seven?

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yeah, Bucky? Are you ready for a Game seven?

Speaker 9 (44:23):
I'm not getting anything tattooed on my face, but yes,
Ryan Heally.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Is with us. Are you ready for a game seven?

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Right? Heley?

Speaker 14 (44:32):
I can't feel my face? How do these players still
right now? Because I can't imagine.

Speaker 8 (44:36):
I can't feel my face.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
I can't even feel my face. Ryan Heally's been with
us throughout the postgame show form or Mariner, and we've
had a ball chatting with him throughout this entire process,
and we want to carry it into the World Series.
So here we go. Game seven, gotta be done tonight.
How you feeling, How you're really feeling about this team tonight?

Speaker 14 (45:00):
Confused, but honestly so excited.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (45:03):
The last time we talked, it was just after Game
four and I was feeling frustrated, the emotions that I'm
sure Mariners fans had lived with for the last twenty
four years, and I felt it to my soul. And
then they come out there and they make me feel
like the most beautiful girl in the ball and they
hit a grand Slam in the bottom of the eighth inning,
a cal Rawle game tying home run. It's just so confusing.

(45:24):
I thought Rick Riz summed it up perfectly on his
broadcast yesterday. They're the cardiac kids. If we love them,
we have to love every version of them, and we're
gonna love them all the way through Game seven.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
What did you think of Game six? Then let's go
ahead and let's dust that off. Let's get that out there,
and then we can focus on Game seven. Because I
had a lot of similar feelings after Game four that
I experienced last night.

Speaker 15 (45:48):
See that's interesting because I didn't I didn't have those
same feelings after Game six, I felt like we had
a lot more opportunity to score runs.

Speaker 14 (45:56):
It didn't happen.

Speaker 15 (45:56):
Baseball is unfortunately the most cruel game out there. The
same situation happened in Game five to the Blue Jays.
A base is loaded.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
What happened there? Hold on? Hold on? Hold on?

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Right?

Speaker 8 (46:07):
I don't know what happened.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
I don't Yeah, we gotta get his audio. Oh got
his audio back? All right?

Speaker 15 (46:11):
I think we got your but my internet doesn't work
before nine. Am so really right the line right now?
It's nice, But I didn't have those same feelings Chuck yesterday.
I didn't feel like the Mariners gave the game away.
I thought you savage through tremendous. Yes, the defense, that's
such a fluke though, Like this is one of the
best defensive teams in the league, and they'll showcase that tonight.
But I think the jitters were there early. Hopefully they

(46:31):
got him out so they won't show up in Game seven.
But the offense had some opportunity. They'll come through. They
have come through all season, but their backs have been
up against the wall. And I think there's like a
sick part of the Mariners that wanted a game seven
just to really feel the pressure, and I'm excited to
see how they show up tonight.

Speaker 9 (46:47):
Well, I mean, we got George Kirby on the bump,
and obviously he didn't have a very good outing. It
was a four innings, eight runs, eight hits. The first
time your boy Kevin Polar came on and he dropped
the stat of all eighteen hits that game came in
the first three pitches of the at bat. I mean,
it makes sense. It's a recipe that the Mariners trust

(47:07):
their stuff. They pound the zone, and you're going against
team that puts the ball in play and they just
were ultra aggressive. So do you do you expect George
to come out there and just do the same thing
that didn't work out last time, or maybe be a
little bit more cautious and try to pound the corners
all right?

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Now, he's not hearing us.

Speaker 9 (47:26):
Oh man, he lost audio.

Speaker 8 (47:30):
You can hear us now?

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Yeah, it does look sharp.

Speaker 8 (47:32):
Yeah, he's thumbs up, but we can't hear him.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
He's got a thumbs up to what the heck?

Speaker 8 (47:36):
Hel it's game seven?

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Yeah, yeah, can you hear us now? Say something? Ryan,
say something.

Speaker 15 (47:42):
I'm here Okay, he's here, Bucky, repeat the question I
lost you with Kevin Polar. You talked about the adjustments
that they were making here.

Speaker 9 (47:49):
Well, yeah, Kevin had brought up the stat that they
had hit got all eighteen hits on the first three
pitches of the at bat, and so they were ultra aggressive.
And that makes sense because of how our pitching staff
pounds his own and doesn't throw a bunch of balls,
and so it just was a recipe for disaster. Do
you expect George to continue the I trust my stuff
will get you out.

Speaker 8 (48:07):
I'm gonna just go ahead and throw it in the zone.

Speaker 9 (48:09):
Or do you think he makes an adjustment says it's okay,
if I walk a guy here and there, I'm gonna
pitch the edges of the zone. If I miss, I'm
gonna miss away from danger.

Speaker 15 (48:18):
There's gonna be specific situations where he's okay with walking
a guy, and I think there's batters in this lineup
where you can navigate around. But the one thing that
I'm gonna look for for George early tonight is he
able to command that slider. If he can get that
slider in the zone early, it's going to expand for
chase because there are some players in this lineup that
will expand we saw Kirk chase a slider in the
left handed batter's box the other night, so I note

(48:40):
that there's guys that are chased. We cannot let Vladimir
Guerrero Junior win Game seven for the Blue Jays. I
think that's like the name we're circling. That's the non
negotiable in this game. We have to force the rest
of the lineup to beat us. And the leadoff doubles.
I don't know how you mitigate leadoff doubles. That's the
probably really locking in from pitch one to lead off

(49:00):
an inning of how do we.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Keep traffic off the bases.

Speaker 15 (49:02):
But if George can command that slider in the zone early,
and I'd look to see that sinker if he can,
if he can move right handed hitters off of the plate,
meaning throw that sinker underneath their hands, it's going to
open up the slider for the outside part of the plate.
And I'm really curious see if he'll be able to
command that back door to seamer to clip the outside
part of the zone. But his command and his execution
of his secondary pitches earlier are going to be really

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important because that's where he ran the trouble in the
last start.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
All right, what's the key to scoring runs? Then tonight
for the MS, we know what it is.

Speaker 15 (49:31):
For the MS, it's hit home runs. So how do
we get players on base that the home runs aren't
solo shots? And I thought they did a nice job
that last night they flip the lineup a little bit
by moving Juli up to the leadoff spot.

Speaker 14 (49:41):
I don't mind that. I thought cal Rawley hit a
couple of balls balls hard.

Speaker 15 (49:44):
Yesterday, Polonko hit a couple balls off the end of
the bat to right field that could have been Homer's.
There was another ball that went off the top of
the wall that I think Revos hit. Like there's good
slings going around the numbers from top to bottom for
these Mariners, Like if you look at the bottom through
the lineup, they don't look tremendous, But for me, if
they can get on base, like Randy Rose, Rain is
finding ways to contribute to this team two hits the

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other night as well. So I'm interested to see how
are we able to get bodies on the bases so
that when these big dudes come up and they connect
with one into two to three run home run. But
that's how the Mariners got here, and that's how they
brought up us to a game seven, So I don't
expect anything different.

Speaker 9 (50:20):
All right, take me inside the hitters meeting against Shane Bieber.
I mean, veteran guy. He doesn't seem like he's going
to give in either. He had a good, good outing
against us his first time around. What do they got
to do to knock him around?

Speaker 15 (50:32):
That's a great question. I thought that him and Insurzer
did a really good job similar pitch repertoires, between multiple
breaking balls, moving away from ron handed hitters, and locating
fastballs early. This is a situation where you're gonna have
to be aggressive earliness fastball, and you're gonna have to
be willing to make adjustment. They're gonna have a game plan,
they're gonna have a hitters meeting, They're gonna know exactly
what Bieber's trying to do to them. But there's gonna

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have to be adjustments from inning to inning, because that's
where I think they lost Shane in the last start,
as he made an adjust in the second inning on
and the Mariners never counterstrike to that. That adjustment that
Beaver made, So I'm curious how they adjust inning to inning,
and I really like to see opportunities when we're at
this bottom third of the order. I think one of
those three guys, when Crawford canzone or Rebos, is going

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to get a big hit tonight. But I'm also going
to see them moving runners over when the lineup turns around.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
If I set the number at ten and a half
of pitchers used tonight by both teams combined, you take
the over or the under on that.

Speaker 14 (51:31):
Over all day like this is.

Speaker 15 (51:32):
They were talking last night in the broadcast of how
many starting pitchers would be available in the bullpen head
with Jaysonnight. This is gonna be a long, long box
score for both teams in the pitching side.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
So what are you feeling, what's your gut? Tell you
what's gonna happen. What's the result here tonight?

Speaker 14 (51:48):
I think the Mariners win in fifteen?

Speaker 8 (51:50):
Ah, I said seventeen.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
Oh man, I can't take it.

Speaker 5 (51:56):
I can't.

Speaker 8 (51:57):
I can't Why.

Speaker 15 (52:00):
I had to take my ORR ring off last night.
My heart rate was getting too high. And if it
goes a seventeen, I might just have to throw this thing.

Speaker 8 (52:06):
Away.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Well, of the three men in this conversation, you're the
only healthy one amongst us. So if it's doing that
to you, imagine what it's doing to both.

Speaker 14 (52:16):
Scream man, play off baseball.

Speaker 8 (52:21):
Well what a treat?

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Yeah, no doubt. All right, man, Well enjoy it tonight.
We'll catch up with you in the next chance that
we have. Man, it's gonna be some fun, there's no
doubt about it.

Speaker 15 (52:32):
Enjoy the journey, all right, no control over the outcome,
so just enjoy show.

Speaker 8 (52:35):
All right.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
There he is Ryan Healy joining us right here on
Chuck a Buck In the morning. We'll have an entire
Mariner hour before we hand things over to talk a
little football here this morning. We do have a Monday
night football game. Of course, you Mellan will be with
us at nine, Mike Holmber will be with us at
nine thirty. So what could we possibly do in our segment?
Next segment, it's ABC's at the m's time on Sports

(52:57):
Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. He just happened to
have at five o'clock Game seven of the American League
Championship Series being played tonight. We've been talking about the
Mariners all morning long, but we will not ignore the
Seahawks Monday night football matchup against the Houston Texans, and
so Mike Holgern will join us at nine point thirty
this morning, and joining us now for his normal X's

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and o's segment. It's our guy, the QB one, Hugh Millon,
Good morning, sir, what's happening? Good morning? Oh everything, everything
all at once is happening. No time for anything else.
You got a take on this game seven to night.

Speaker 7 (53:30):
Well, look, you guys are the experts. You guys are
doing a phenomenal job. You ushould get an Emmy or something.
So I just got a late person's take, which would be,
you know, think of an NFL football player.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
You only play once a week.

Speaker 7 (53:46):
There's just seventeen games, obviously, and you usually play in
front of a full stadium or nearly full, and there's
a lot of importance. And then when you get to
the playoffs, every game isn't out. It's like a seventh game.
So the Mariners are the equivalent of the of playing

(54:06):
in the NFC Championship game tonight. And so a player
you've already kind of been in those pressure situations.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Now, let's contrast that to baseball.

Speaker 7 (54:17):
The whole regular season, you're playing in relatively insignificant games,
not any one game. An NFL player has the weight
of ten baseball games. A baseball player and any one
game when he goes to the park for three hours,
he can say, well, you know, look, if I don't

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play real well, there's not a lot of weight to it.
And then when you get to the playoffs, you know,
usually there's another playoff game. You rarely get into a
deciding game. So for the Mariners to be in the
seventh game, there is no professional athlete that has a
bigger delta that jump between how he usually goes the

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park and the weight that is on the game when
he usually goes to the park to what the Mariners
have tonight. Every one of those players knows that the
Mariners have never been to the World Series. You say, well,
what about the seventh game of the World Series. Yeah,
most circumstances. But I think for the Mariners uniquely tonight,
they they know that if they make the World Series,

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this is a successful season. They've got to know that.
And even if they were to lose, hell, if they
if they go, they're gonna be underdogs to the Dodgers.
I think in a way, they might be looser in
a seventh game of the World Series than they would
be tonight. There's a hell of a lot of pressure,
and so to me, I would just say, don't think
about who's the better team. Stop talking about who's the

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better team.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 7 (55:45):
The only thing that matters tonight is who is clutch.
Somebody is gonna be a clutch player tonight, and somebody
is gonna be a relative goat. I don't want to
say the whole game falls on them, but somebody's gonna have.
People are gonna have good games and see people are
gonna poor games tonight. Obviously you hope it's it's the mirrors,
but I think it's it's it's it's all about who

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is clutch.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
And we're gonna find out.

Speaker 9 (56:10):
Yeah, I'm gonna I mean, I'm kind of on that topic.
I mean, you played in some big games, right, You'll
you'll demean and you'll talk down about how you were
a backup guy and whatnot. But I know you played
in some big games whatever, but you still you played
in some big games in your life. You were parts
of that. And yet I mean, knowing you I know
how cerebral you are, how much you think about what

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it is you're supposed to be thinking about, and so
what type of mindset, how how would you think is
the best way to try to arrive at being clutch
in that moment? I mean, what is the thing that
you have to kind of channel to hopefully find yourself
in the zone when when the pressure gets the toughest.

Speaker 7 (56:51):
I think everybody processes it differently. I think some really
look at it and they say, hey, yes, this is
the uh, this is the the crucible of pressure.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
I love it.

Speaker 7 (57:05):
Tell me that the whole world is watching, and tell
in fact, tell me, tell me they're watching in the
Southern hemisphere, like I want it all. Some guys just
they'll say, hey, you know, I want to I want
to bring it back to normalcy. What what if this
was just a spring training game and it's just me
against the pitcher. Uh, then you know, how would I, well,

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I'd break against this guy if it was spring training.
So let's just try and have the attitude. So I
think I think different athletes just process it differently in
that regard, and you're going to have a lot of
guys that that are trying to say, Hey, I relish this.
There's gonna be guys that are going to be trying
in their mind to diminish. Hey, it's no big deal.
It's just like a game in May, and you know,

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you know, I just think that's the nature. But I
do think it is noteworthy that baseball players, for the
reasons I've stated, they have a bigger vault that they
are not used to going to the park and walking
into that locker room and getting dressed. They are not
used to having this kind of wait, at least in

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terms of relative to other athletes and other team sports.
And so it's really not about who's the best team.
It's about who is going to be clutched in the
moment with us. Yeah, and we don't know it until
we don't know it until we see it.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
R QB one. Yes, we got a Monday night football
game tonight, Seahawks taking on the Texans, along with every
other game in the world apparently being played tonight as well.
So let's dive into this Monday night affair. What stands
out to you as the pivotal aspect of this matchup?

Speaker 7 (58:45):
Well, first of all, let's talk about the Texans. This
was a team that in twenty twenty two, where's three
and thirteen. They got the second pick in the draft
after Bryce Young went to Carolina. They pick up CJ.
Stroud and they trade so they got the second pick
in the draft, and they pick up Will Anderson, the
great linebacker with a third pick, so they get the

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second and third pick. Then they go that next year
twenty twenty three, they go ten and seven, and they
went ten and seven last year, So a huge vault
right with a new coach as well. And I just
look at them now, they're two and three, but they're
off of two wins. They've got to buy If you
look at the AFC in that division, the Colts are

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six and one. Let's assume they're running away from it.
But from a wildcard standpoint, the Bills are would be
the number one wildcard right now at four and two.
Then you've got four other teams that have three losses,
and the Texans are one of them. So in their mind,
we look at two and three, we say you're not
even a five hundred team. In their mind, they are
right equal with a playoff team, and so they're going

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to come in here. And this is the part that
I want to say concerns you, but it sure as
hell gets your attention. Number One defensively and fewest points
allowed at twelve point two Seattle. We think of seattleven
a damn good defense. They're at nine. They're at sixth
in the NFL with nineteen and a half. So there's
a touchdown less that the Texans. The yards the Texans

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are third, the first downs on defense, first downs allowed fourth.
I look at I go to the NFL stat portal
and I just I just look at page after page
on the website. It would be too many to discuss
in a segment like this or another segment, how many stats.
They're in the top five defensively, and so they've got

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a hell they got a hell of a front four.
They they play mostly zone defense. In Cover one, which
is man to man, their twentieth in Cover zero, which
is an aggressive man to man with no free safety,
they're twenty ninth. But the percent of the time where
they have five rushers, they're fifth in the league. What
does that tell me? So they're a zone team, but

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they rush five five is a that's a lot of
zone dogs. They want to fool you. So for Sam Darnold,
he got an extra day of preparation. You cannot be fueled.
A year ago. You had Justin Herbert, the only quarterback
in the history of the NFL, more interceptions in one

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playoff game than he had had the entire regular season.
He had three interceptions in the regular season, four in
the playoff game. So that zone blitz that are reflected
in the numbers that I said has got to be
something that that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
You're prepared for.

Speaker 9 (01:01:35):
Yeah, I mean, you're talking about the way in which
their defense, where they rank number one obviously, and the
points allowed and whatnot. I was looking through some stuff
and and you know there, I think fifth in passing
yards allowed and they've only given up three touchdown passes
through six games.

Speaker 8 (01:01:52):
That's a pretty low number.

Speaker 9 (01:01:54):
They're rushing numbers against are pretty good as well, And
so I'm kind of wondering where your thoughts at as
far as is this a game where they have to
rush the ball effectively against this team because of the
fact that they don't give up a whole heck of
a lot in the passing game either.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 7 (01:02:11):
But I think that Seattle has been able to put
up points without rushing the ball. That's just a testimony
to how good of a season Sam Darnold's had. I
think that when you look at there's I don't see
a lot of defensive lines that have the ratings. Uh,
you know it's you got. You've got Rankins, Sheldon Rankins
and Tim Settle as the defensive tackles. We mentioned Will

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Anderson the third overall pick. He's he's got a lot
of juice. He's going to be over Lucas. I think
you got to protect him. But then you know, on
the other side, Daniel Hunter. Now, if if I'm assuming
you're a pretty good NFL fan, let's just make this.
If I told you that here's the top highest paid
defensive ends. If I told you Micah Parsons is number one,

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you're not surprised. If I told you Tz Wats is
number two, you're not surprised. Miles Garrett's number three, You're
not surprised. Daniel Hunter's number four, not Will Anderson. Daniel
Hunter for the Texans is going over Charles Cross and then, oh,
by the way, behind him are Max Crosby, Nick Moson,
Trey Henderson. You would you would expect all those guys.
So I think Daniel Hunter of those seven is the

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guy you go hunh oh, I didn't know him, and
and so that front four. And then you take their secondary.
Now Stingley is the third overall pick, the corner on
on Seattle's right side. Uh, and then Kamari Lassiter the
second rounder out of Georgia. I mean they got talented corner.
The corners aren't probably playing to the level of their talent.

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But then Jalen Petre's playing his ass off as a
nickel and a safety guy. So so I think that
they're Oh, by the way, their middle linebacker. It seems
like every week Seattle's playing good middle linebackers. But but uh, yeah,
there's just there's a lot of talent out there. But
but I think it's it's the coaching. And uh, when

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they brought in CJS Stroud, they also they they Lovey
Smith is gone and they've got They've got Demiko Ryans
as a hell of a defensive coach. They are tied together.
As you said, I'm more impressed with the coaching when
I see a team that plays zoned, because you have
to play more as a unit as opposed to man
to man and and so in that regard, there's some

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similarities between the Texans defensively and what Mike McDonald has
done with Baltimore and Seattle.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Hugh melanis Weather's our QB one x'es and o's segments
here on a Monday with a Monday night football game
being played tonight at Looming Field against the Houston Texans.
But it's been such a busy week. I mean, it's
a week in which Hugh Millan's Washington Husky's faced as
mister Millons Michigan Wolverines. Yeah, over the weekend, and so

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obviously did not go the way of the dogs. What's
your take from that Saturday debacle.

Speaker 7 (01:04:58):
Well, I'm just kind of thinking about Jedfish today and
I'm wondering whether Saturday on that plane ride and yesterday
was add or near the bottom of his just his
mood at lowest point of his coaching career. Maybe maybe
certainly head coaching for the following reasons. So he's on

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record as having said that he'd be very intrigued by
the Florida job. He wears a advisor as an homage
to Steve Spurrier. He has said it'd be very hard
to turn that away. So the Florida jobs as most
no came open. Billy Napier got fired yesterday. I'm theorizing

(01:05:43):
that he wants that job, and he could have reasonably
thought that he was a candidate for that job. And
so now going back to ann Arbor at this time,
when when Florida is considering different candidates, to go back
and only score seven points against a good but not
great Michigan team and lose by seventeen. And then furthermore,

(01:06:07):
it's the way they did it because his prize pupil,
Demond Williams. We all love Demond Williams, we all see
his talent. And yet a year ago, let's say on
November eleventh, a year ago, after playing Penn State, this
is what Jedfish said. He goes quote and now when
Demond gets in there next year, meaning this year, he's

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going to have the experience of playing in a white
out in front of one hundred and seven thousand, he's
going to have the experience of what does it feel
like to try and make a slant throat into tight
coverage on fourth and fifth and be able to draw
from that experience end quote that there's some irony there
because you were you played demand at sometimes at awkward

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times a year ago, and maybe the senior senior players
were grousing like, hey, are we playing for twenty twenty four?
Are we played for the future? And so so Demon
Williams was given that experience for Saturday's game against Michigan.
And the irony is that he had he had spoken
to Now it wasn't fourth and the five this past Saturday,

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and it wasn't a white out, but it wasn't front.
It was in front of one hundred and seven thousand,
and the critical interception the base when it was the
score was tied seven to seven, and it was essentially
a pick six that was a slant route and which
which against Fish had commented on that particular route a
year ago. And both of those interceptions, the first two

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interceptions that were on first and ten. The first one
was a slant route. He just didn't see the will linebacker.
That was a good good play for that defense. You
just you got to in and out high low that
Will linebacker and and he didn't see him. So that's
on Demon Williams. The second interception was called why stick.

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That is the most ubiquitous. I was literally coaching that
in seventh grade it's all over high school in the NFL.
That concept it's been around for a long damn time,
and you don't want to run that against a five
hundred two deep z. So so wink what Martin Deel,
the defeats defensive coordinator for Michigan, he out coached him
on that play. And then the confusion where the tight

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ends breaking out and demon Williams is expecting him to
hook apparently. You know when I coach that, I was like, hey,
tight end, if you're going to hook it up in
the zone, then turn inside. If you're going to break
away from that, what's called the third defender, you count
outside end. If you're going to break away from the
number three, then then you break to the outside. And

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then there's there is a a cohesion and understanding between
quarterback and receiver and so on that play. The second interception, Uh,
Washington out coached and so I think it's a I
think it was really a probably a disillusioning plane ride going.
We just scored seven points and damn Florida jobs open

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and DeMont Williams just threw it three interceptions. And I
thought we had groomed him so that he this would
be the type of game he could take over. And
he still has yet to have a quality win against
a good opponent.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:09:14):
You know, he's beat beat, beat up on, beat up
mightily on the feeble, but Demond Williams has yet to
have that signature win. And don't tell me the Louisville
game when they missed their start. You know, their their
starting quarterback bout out for the Bowl, their second string
went in the transferred poll, their their best defense and
they had got their their best defensive dB. Everybody pulling

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out of that game. That was You watched that tape.
It looked like there was eight guys playing defense for Louisvill.
So don't tell me the Bowl game. He's got to
have a win like he should have had on Saturday.
That's why you played him a year ago. And so
at any event, I think that it's a little bit
of a sobering experience for Jed Fish trying to get
over that game.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
Well tonight we got enjoy the craziness of this. It is, yeah, crazy,
it can be.

Speaker 7 (01:10:05):
Well tomorrow, you guys are going to kill it again
no matter what happens.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
So keep up the good work.

Speaker 8 (01:10:11):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
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whether the Mariners winn or lose, to spend some time
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Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
Hi.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Yes, coach, O'm gonna joins us here on this Monday.
So much going on around these here on parts uh
and yet we do have a Monday night football game.
We haven't talked to coaching a little while. We miss
him and so here he is with us on Chuck
and Buck. Good morning, sir, Good morning Chuck.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
How's it going?

Speaker 8 (01:11:20):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Going? All right? What do you think?

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
What do you think about game seven to night? What's
your gut feel? What are you feeling?

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Oh?

Speaker 13 (01:11:26):
Well, the Marriers are gonna do it. It's gonna be exciting.
Uh uh they got it. It's been so good and
then last night it just uh you know, it got
away from him. So see how the pitching is.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
That's the big thing.

Speaker 8 (01:11:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
Yeah, I like to get you in that clubhouse maybe,
uh meal, a little pep talk.

Speaker 13 (01:11:46):
Well, I don't think, you know, Dan, Dan seems to
be able to get him going, so you know, I
hope he does it again.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
I don't know. I think a homegun fire needs to
be unders.

Speaker 8 (01:11:57):
I couldn't hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
Yeah, that's what I think. What do you you what
do you chart out as the key to this thing tonight?
Going up against a great defense in Houston.

Speaker 13 (01:12:07):
Yeah, I think it's going to be. It could be
a low scoring game and they you know, Houston has
a good defense, a good line up front. So the
matchup between the offensive line for the Seahawks and the
upfront for the for the Texans is going to be
the deciding factor, I think, So I hope a lot
of play action. That's what I'm hoping for.

Speaker 8 (01:12:27):
Well that's what I was going to go with.

Speaker 9 (01:12:29):
It was the play action, and yet they haven't really
ran the ball super effectively, and yet the play action
still works. So being the offensive mastermind that you are,
is do you do you have to establish the run
or is it no? Just run it a couple of
times and then do what's been working more often than not,
even though you know you're going up against a defense

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that doesn't give up a bunch running or passing.

Speaker 13 (01:12:53):
Yeah, you know what, it always helps when you can
establish the runner for your playpack, play pass game. But
I think the just have to come out and call things,
you know, throw it on first down, call your game
a little differently, you know, to keep the defense off
balance because they've got a good defense. So that's what
I'm hoping to see.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Mike Comrian with US says the Seahawks take on the
Houston Texans here this evening. What is your take on
c J. Stroud. He got off to such a great
start as an NFL quarterback and then maybe a little
bit of a sophomore slump a year ago, even though
he still helped his team get into the playoffs, and
then this year off to a little bit of a

(01:13:33):
slow start, a lot of people thought he was going
to have a rebound. So what's your read on CJ.
Stroud as he plays in his third year in the NFL.

Speaker 13 (01:13:42):
Well, I think he's kind of hot and cold. He's
not real consistent right now. But he's really a talented guy.
So when I watch him play, it looks like some
of the decision making physically he's got everything okay, But
typically with quarterbacks and you guys know this, You know
their decision making and how they redefense is how they
prepare for the game. Even the great physical talent doesn't

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get you through things unless you prepare properly, unless you understand,
really understand what you're trying to do and every pass.
So that's what I see. I see at a little bit,
not throwing it on time, making some bad decisions on occasion.
Otherwise he's got everything. I really love to have this

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guy on my team.

Speaker 9 (01:14:27):
What do they have to do the Seahawks? I mean,
is it just as simple as win to try to
get over this hump? A little bit of the home
field advantage. I mean it used to be back you know,
you kind of brought that thing here and it was
the worst place to come play.

Speaker 8 (01:14:42):
Nobody liked doing it.

Speaker 9 (01:14:43):
And yet they're going on the road and winning left
and right, but finding it more difficult to do at home.

Speaker 8 (01:14:47):
What do they got to change?

Speaker 13 (01:14:50):
Well, you know, Buck, it's a puzzle, honestly, because we
talk about it each week. It seems like and and
they you have such an advantage, the team has such
an advance here, and that advantage should equate to wins.
And I don't know, you know, I mean I was
even thinking if I do they stay in hotels and

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that before the game. Do they let them stay home?
I don't know what they do, but I always said,
if I can control them at home, I'm going to
control them. So they're going to stay in the hotel,
I'm going to check them for bedcheck, and then we're
going to go to the stadium. I don't know if
they do that. If they do that, fine, but there's
something that they're not taking advantage of. And so to
your point, they got to win. They got to win

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big at home and get them rolling that way and
get them using the crowd and the fans will react accordingly.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
You know, coach and the National Football League quarterbacks, if
they get off to a rough start in their careers,
they tend to get put to the back of the line.
But we've seen a couple of guys Baker Mayfield and
Sam Darnold with the Seahawks that are kind of taking
that rich Gannon approach. Like something clicked here in the

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last couple of years. I don't know what it is.
Maybe you can tell me. What is it that like
a veteran quarterback who's not really found his success until
later in life, what tends to kick in? What do
they tend to have in common when it finally does
start to go well.

Speaker 13 (01:16:24):
I think, first of all, it's the combination, is the
connectedtivity between the coach or the coordinator and the player.
Because you know, we talked about it for as well.
You know, you go to the Jets as your number
one draft pick and a lot of expectations. It's New
York and it doesn't work, and all of a sudden
you go into a little bit of a slump saying,
maybe I wasn't as good as I thought it was.

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But then you get with the right coach, the right program,
surrounded by some people that can really play, and then
you're calling the game to his strength, and all of
a sudden you get to be more effective, and then
it builds your confidence and then you become the player
that you were supposed to be. And you see it
and at Baker Mayfield's a great example of that. Sam

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Donald's is a great example of that. He signally had
a place well, I think he went to the place
last year, so he got a good, good situation in Minnesota.
Look at Minnesota now, I mean they're struggling a little
bit with their quarterback situation because of injury. But with
those guys that come into your program, and you know

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that when you get one of those guys and then
you say, okay, I always thought it throwing complete caution
to the win. Just give me somebody, give me somebody
with physical talents, and I can help him be the
best he can be. And I think that's how you
have to approach it. And then then you get the
kid to buy in and then you got something coach.

Speaker 9 (01:17:51):
Obviously, I mean even after this week, they're going to
have ten weeks of football, so long ways to go.
But how important do you feel it is for them
to keep pace with the forty nine ers and Rams
considering if they win this one, they'll still be tied
record wise anyways with them versus falling the game behind.

Speaker 13 (01:18:10):
Yeah, no, I think it's this game is really important, Bucket.
It's really important because the forty nine ers are doing
it even though they're quarterbacks. A lot of people are hurt.
But it's going to go down to the wire in
the division, in my opinion, it's going to be really close.
So every single game is important, and this game in
particular because then they have the buy I think next week, right, yep, yep, yeah,

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so going into the buy, kind of regroup, get the
injury guys back, and then play the rest of the season.
But listen, we thought they were going to be pretty good,
but they're they're pretty good. I mean, they're doing fine.
But this game, this game tonight is really important for
all the reasons you mentioned, not the downplay at all,
win at home, get it going at home, and then

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you can see a really bright future.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
You know, when you were head coach the Seahawks, you
were here for each your romania, the record setting a
regular season that the Mariners had and uh, of course
World Series dreams and so what what is that like
to be the football team in town that usually gets
the most attention?

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
And then all of a sudden, you know, you start
sharing that stage, if not handing the stage over to
the local baseball team in town. What was that experience
like for you? And uh? And and what is the
what is it like for the players?

Speaker 13 (01:19:34):
I didn't like it. It put a lot of pressure on me,
you know, no, I I you know, I gotta I
got a chance to visit with all the managers. Not
not this year, but when when I was coaching and
we kind of had a mutual respect and mutual relationship
and I was rooting for them all the way and
they knew that. And so yeah, this is it's you

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just you're happy for them. You're happy for them, You're
happy for the fans. This is a really exciting deal.
And if they go to the World Series, oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
You know.

Speaker 13 (01:20:05):
But I went to went to church yesterday and I
had guys come up to me. I was at the game.
I was at the game, you know, a game. I said, Okay,
calm down, we still got a little to play.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
Here.

Speaker 13 (01:20:15):
You know I want to how about you mean football? No,
not football?

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
Uh well it's fun, there's no question about it. So
get out the popcorn tonight, you know, yes, and enjoy yourself.
I mean, you got a lot of stuff to choose from.
You got your cracking hockey at four o'clock. That's when
I get started, and then you got baseball at five,
and you got football at seven. So just buckle in,
get your snacks ready.

Speaker 13 (01:20:45):
No, I'm in fact, I'm taking some pressure off Cathy
to I'm making ribs. You're making ribs, coleslaw, and garlic
mashed potatoes.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
Those three.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
All right, So Bucky and I are broadcasting high from
the Holme grins. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:21:01):
I was hoping Buck, you'd bring a little dip over,
but I guess that's.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
What could happen.

Speaker 9 (01:21:05):
Well, if I'm invited for all those fictions, I'll bring
some elk dip for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
They'll bring a vat bring a keg. You just go
tag keg? All right, coach, Well, enjoy. We'll talk to
you tomorrow, right guys.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
Thanks?

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
All right, Mike Homberan joining us right here on Chuck
and Buck in the mornings. One last thing to close
out this Monday edition of Chucking Buck in the Morning.
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