Best of Chuck & Buck 10-24

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Friday.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:02):
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Speaker 4 (00:12):
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Speaker 3 (00:14):
Football Friday is on with Chuck and Buddy on Sports
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Speaker 4 (00:38):
All right, good Friday morning to you. Welcome into the
radio program.

Speaker 5 (00:41):
It is Chuck Powell, it is Ashley Ryan with you
know Buck here. Today's out for a couple of days,
and so you got us for four hours here on
this Friday morning, lovely Friday morning, getting ready for a
what looks to be a damp weekend.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
Don't like that.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
I think more than damp, we're supposed to get like
an over an inch of rain.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
I know, you know what this is where this is
where Ashley and I probably are the closest in our
love for fall, yeah, and our love for dry fall weather.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
To enjoy the leaves.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, I really do like the leaves in it.

Speaker 6 (01:17):
And it was a little windy the other day and
I thought, oh, what's gonna happen?

Speaker 2 (01:20):
But they seemed to kind of hold on and they
were just blowing. And now I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
Know what's gonna happen. They we're gonna have some soggy
leafage at our feets. And I don't like that. All
that beauty that.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
It really is sort of just a sad, sad representation.
You take all that beauty and then you just wet
it and damp it and just rip it from its
root and there it is underneath your feet.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, and then you just step on it.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
Two days ago, this was gorgeous and I was staring
at it, enjoying a cool fall breeze and having a
cup of coffee and a pumpkin scone.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
And now now look what our life has been.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Now look now, look at all the rain in our forecast.

Speaker 6 (01:57):
I can't wait to sit and watch softball in it.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
Is that your weekend?

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Oh geez? Yeah, oh boy.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
The tournament all weekend long.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
Did Nickerson, by the way, sell out his venue for Saturday?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
I don't know if he did or not. I know
I think he sold out there.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
Not friends with us, He made it very clear he's
only friends with Ashley. Well, we were texting the other day, yeah, exactly,
of course.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
And I told him that I couldn't make the show
about that. I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (02:22):
I could give you his phone number, you could text him,
and then he'd probably really be more excited to be
your friend.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Than my friend. But I don't know.

Speaker 6 (02:29):
I should ask him, because you know his show. He's
got two shows tomorrow at the Neptune. They're going to
be awesome, and that's perfect to do on a rainy weekend,
go to a comedy show.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah, that's true. That's true. Yeah, Well, I don't know
if I'm going to make it.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
I don't know if I'm going to make it. Maybe
that's why I'm not his friend and you are.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Well, I can't make it. I have to watch softball
all weekend long.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
But you've got things you have to do.

Speaker 6 (02:51):
You can come watch softball and then you can tell
him I have to go watch softball all weekend long.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah that sounds Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
We welcome into the show.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
It has sort of been a week of healing in
a lot of ways as we kind of come to grips.
We've gone through the different stages of getting over getting
knocked out of the playoffs, and with a World series
starting tonight, we got another stage to get to. That's
kind of the acceptance stage that Okay, we're gonna.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Watch the World Series or not.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
I mean, I'd really like to watch show hey o
Tani play in the World Series, But that's about it.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Really don't want to watch anything else about it.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
I don't want to hear Dave Roberts talk about how
he's excited that the Dodgers are ruining baseball. I don't
want to see the Toronto Blue Jay's happy. I mean, so,
I don't know. It's a torn feeling. I wish you
people wouldn't have ever made me emotional about baseball. I
was doing just fine till I moved here.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
I know, thanks a lot.

Speaker 6 (03:48):
I do feel bad because I remember too when I started,
you were like, I'm not an emotional sports fan, and
I've watched the progression over the last couple of years
as you get just as emotional, not just I wouldn't
say just, but you do let emotions play a part, yes,
in your Mariner's watching. And I'd like to just pretend

(04:08):
that the World Series isn't happening.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
Yeah, yeah, I guess you got that option. I am
curious how I react because it's Friday. I'm really looking
forward to, like a lay back weekend. Because I haven't
had one in a while. Yeah, and I've got Martini Night.
I think that we're going full scale on that perfect
and I always put on usually while we're playing music,

(04:33):
I'll put on a sporting event on mute and just
have it in the background, so, you know, in between
dance sessions, and yes, I do dance during Martini Night,
why wouldn't you. In between dance sessions, I'll pause and
you know, just to I feel like I'm accomplishing a
lot at once, and I'm not a great multitasker to
begin with. So it's really a great feeling, you know,

(04:55):
because I'm you know, enjoying a Martini, dancing, listening to music,
and watching.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
A sporting event all at the same time.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
And socializing really with the Unicorn, even though that's way
down the list. So so yes, So I don't know
what I'm gonna put on.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
I really don't.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
I don't know if I will be moved by the
moment because I am such a steam head and just
I got to give in and watch show a take.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
On the Blue Jays.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
I don't know if I'll do that or if I'll
flip it to Big ten college football.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
Maybe I'll watch that.

Speaker 5 (05:31):
Yeah, maybe I'll watch a little NBA since it's back
into our lives. I don't know, I don't know. I
don't know how I'm going to approach it. I don't
think I'm going to know until like six pm tonight. Yeah,
I'm sure it will be five is when the World Series.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Yeah, I'm sure it will be on at our house.

Speaker 6 (05:45):
But luckily for me, I get softball practice in the
fifth grade Halloween dance tonight. Oh so, I but if
it makes you feel better, I did already have a.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Dream about it.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
You already have made me feel better, because no matter
what I do tonight, it's better than that.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
It's better than that.

Speaker 6 (06:00):
Yeah, and I did have I did already have a
dream about Game one of the World Series. I had
this not last night, the night before. Uh, Toronto wins
Game one, so oh really in my dream?

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, and I was.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Your third grade teacher there playing second base.

Speaker 6 (06:14):
No, it was really odd because it was actually just
all about the game. And then I was watching the
game and it was really close, and I was getting
really annoyed because I didn't want Toronto to win, and
then they ended up winning at the end.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
So just a run of the mill.

Speaker 5 (06:25):
You're watching the World Series dream like you weren't barefoot
or anything.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Nothing strange, and my dreams are weird.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
You aren't making out with cal Raleigh again.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
No, not this time in the stands. In the dream
where I was his second girlfriend, we never made out.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Okay, that's right, that's right. I added that. Yeah, maybe
I wanted that for you in your dream.

Speaker 5 (06:46):
Probably did ye, I appreciate that, But no a tricycle
and the outfield or anything.

Speaker 6 (06:53):
Just sitting on the couch next to me and I
was just getting all of them that Toronto was going
to win, and then they won.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
Maybe that is a true nightmare, then I think it
might have been. Yeah, maybe the nightmares. Maybe our worst
nightmares are the ones that are so realistic and then
they are go so against the grain.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
I can't even believe I'm even rooting for the Dodgers,
because I do think their Dodgers are ruining baseball.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yeah, I do too.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
I don't want them to win. I don't want Toronto
to win.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
Yeah, I got to root for the Dodgers in this Canada.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
All right.

Speaker 5 (07:26):
Well, yeah, we got a lot to figure out emotionally
about how we're going to proceed with all.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
We're in a tough spot.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
Yeah, yeah, we're in a dark place. Yeah, well so
is the NBA as well. I mean, our show plan
got a little disrupted at the beginning, and I'm sure
everybody's show nationally got disrupted. Doesn't matter if you're a
local sports show, national sports show, international sports show. The

(07:54):
NBA scandal breaking right before we came on the air
yesterday certainly impacts every sporting fan out there. But you know,
I didn't really get a lot of the conversation where
I thought that it was gonna go yesterday. It maybe
we're just so used to scandal now. And I'm not
just talking about in the sports world, just in life

(08:15):
in general. You know, maybe we're so used to it now.
I mean that it didn't rock us the way that
I thought it would. It kind of felt to me
like everybody was treating this as an isolated incident and
more of a hurdle, you know, maybe a larger hurdle
than normal, but more of just like, well, the NBA's
got to do the right thing, you know here, and

(08:36):
was it should? Did the NBA screw up by letting
Rogier play that seemed to be the conversations. I mean
when it first happened to me, because I've been around
this industry for a long time. In the past, it
always went to is this going to rock the fans
trust in what they're watching? I mean, they just went
ahead and played NBA games last night, and people went

(08:58):
ahead and made their bets. The whole world just continued.
I mean, scandal or not. And this was a monster scandal.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
This is not small.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
This is one of the biggest ones of my entire career,
my entire lifetime.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
Yeah, and yet I think maybe that is it.

Speaker 5 (09:13):
That people are just so used to scandal that it
just it just rolls right off our backs these days.

Speaker 6 (09:20):
Yeah, and maybe, but I I.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
I was trying to wrap my head around it yesterday.

Speaker 6 (09:25):
I was explaining some of it to my mom about
it's not even just a sports scandal, like this is
just a big like this was a massive investigation and
bust arresting like thirty eight people over eleven states.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
I mean, that's a big damn deal.

Speaker 6 (09:38):
And then you add in the fact that it was
involving sports and rigging, you know, prop bets and things
like that.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
I don't know that doesn't roll off my back.

Speaker 6 (09:46):
That that's it's crazy to me that the NBA did
clear Terry Rosier and they're like.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Well, okay, yeah, he's fine, and then the FBI is like.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
Hold on, I mean, we're you going to talk about
for a long time. But it's almost like we just
all right. So Chauncey Billups is done and Terry Rogier's done. Yea,
Damon Jones are They're all done. They're never will never
see them again. I'm not saying they won't ever breathe
free air again, but they're done. Their basketball careers are
over with. But because the thirty eight other people were

(10:17):
not sports figures that got arrested yesterday, and because the
NFL Thursday night football, everybody kind of went through their routine.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
I did not watch.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
I did not go to the bar last night, so
maybe that did affect me a little bit. Usually I
go on Thursday. I think that has more to do
with me just trying to catch up. And you know,
basketball was on, and then I mean they didn't. They
spent time on it on inside the NBA, and good
for them. I wasn't sure on day number two how
Charles and company were going to be allowed to handle it,

(10:50):
but ESPN did not interfere with their candid nature, which
was a relief. It doesn't look like they're going to
try to edit or see what those four guys say
going forward, So that was good.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
I mean, the only thing.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
They really got heated about was Kenny trying to play
the addiction card and Charles did not want to hear it.
That was the only thing they even got heated about.
For the most part, everybody on the set kind of
was in agreement that the three people responsible, you know,
their surprise because they knew them personally, but shame on them,

(11:27):
and you know, you betrayed us and you betrayed the league.
That seemed to be the sentiment on the set, with
Kenny trying to defend them a.

Speaker 6 (11:35):
Little bit, right, And yeah, and I actually did say
the same thing when I was explaining to my mom, like, well,
because she's I don't understand why people do this, I said, well,
addiction or gambling is an addiction.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
And I kind of just came out and then.

Speaker 6 (11:48):
I thought to myself, but they weren't really the ones gambling, right.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
Yeah, that's to me, So I am not an addictive personality,
and so It's always been hard for me to sort
of I can sympathize, I can't empathize with what an
addictive person ghoster.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
I've been around plenty of them.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
I always so I'm always like, Okay, I get the
drug and alcohol, the chemical. You're introducing new chemicals into
a body. How are they going to react to your chemicals?
Heredity has something.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
To do with it.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
Your genes have something to do with it, whether or
not it's in you to be an addictive personality because
of those that came before you. I get all of that,
like the it's kind of rearranges your thought processes, and so, okay,
I get that one. So it was a harder leap
for me to go to the sympathy for the gambling addict.

(12:42):
But I do understand it. Your brain releases chemicals of
what you're doing, and so over time I've been able to.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Say, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (12:52):
Yeah, you're craving that high and winning, right, you're craving it.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
You got to be a part of it, you know,
And Okay, So now I've developed over time like sympathy
for that and recognition of how debilitating that that is.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
And how it can destroy and wreck people.

Speaker 5 (13:07):
Okay, okay, I'm with you on that, but this isn't
Terry Rosier and Chauncey Billups couldn't wait to make a
bet to get their fix. These are two people. I mean,
was he also he's addicted to gambling? Is he also
addicted to acting like he's a bad basketball player? I mean,
is Chauncey Billups also addicted to rigging poker games and

(13:31):
keeping an association with known criminals? Is that an addiction?
And yeah, at one point, I'm sure that if he
was involved early in his life that he felt scared
and man, I you know, maybe he was in their debt.
This guy made two hundred million dollars in his career.
How could he have not paid that debt off by now?

(13:52):
How is he still associating with them at this point?
Terry Rogier makes twenty six million dollars a year, So
I mean, maybe if you're going to tell me there
addicted to the high of criminal.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Behavior, maybe.

Speaker 5 (14:04):
I mean, we watch movies all the time, like The
Sting's one of my favorite movies of all time, and
we love the characters. We love Paul Newman, we love Robertt,
Robert Redford in that and they win the day, and
they they outsmart the other criminals and everything else. But
they're criminals, and yet they've been painted by Hollywood as
people that we should like. And so, I mean, you

(14:25):
can like Chauncey Billups like apparently everybody in his life does.
Nobody has a bad word to say about Chauncey Billups.
But that doesn't mean he's not acting criminally. That doesn't
mean he's not stealing and bilking innocent people.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
In his thirst to.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
Satisfy whatever adrenaline that creates for him.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
He is.

Speaker 5 (14:46):
So I mean he's addicted to acting criminally, then are
we supposed to have sympathy for that too.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
Otherwise, let's let all.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
The serial killers out. They're just addicted to killing people.
It's no big deal.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
Pickpockets are just addicted to no big deal. Let them
all out. So look, I mean, I will go ahead
and accept the fact that there are people out there, and.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
I know you weren't waiting on me, but.

Speaker 5 (15:12):
That there are people out there that need that I
need that adrenaline rush. Had to place that bet you know,
fell behind a little bit or got ahead a little
bit and have.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
To just keep feeding it.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
But it shouldn't then also affect you betraying your friends,
your boss, your business, your sport that has made you
a millionaire over and over and over and over again.
I mean that to me can't be put in an
addictive category. There are elements of Rogier and Chauncey that

(15:46):
are no doubt addictive, but that should end at I
can't keep myself from placing bets. It should not be
I'm addicted to ruining other people's lives.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
I am addicted to.

Speaker 5 (16:00):
Betraying my friends, my co workers, my industry. That to
me is not addiction. That's just you're an a hole. Yeah,
and you might be able to be nice to other people,
but you are at the root of you a criminal,
and I don't want to see you around anymore.

Speaker 6 (16:16):
Yeah, at the root of you, you are not a
good person because you brought you knowingly scammed people. I mean,
you're no better than the people that are you know,
sending text messages or calling elderly people and trying to
get them to give them their life savings.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
Right, like, you are no.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Better than that, right, I agree?

Speaker 6 (16:32):
And so but that was it was funny because when
I said that to my momm yesterday, and then all
of a sudden, I was like, wait a minute, this
situation like in Chauncey Billips case too. You know, he's
part of these poker games. He's also telling people information
about his players and that they're tanking games.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
And then you know when that's.

Speaker 6 (16:50):
Not public and it's not made public till thirty minutes
before the game, that somebody's out and these people are
making thousands of dollars off that information.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
I mean that is fully illegal.

Speaker 6 (17:01):
Yes, and you are you are abusing your place to profit.

Speaker 5 (17:07):
Yeah, you have not seen the movie, and I think
this should be illegal as well. I think you should
be arrested for not seeing Guardians of the Galaxy.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, I should.

Speaker 5 (17:15):
But at the end of the movie there's an exchange
between because they're all the Ravagers the they're actually kind
of criminals who've decided to fight evil okay together, and
so they get to the end of you know, hopefully
spoiler alert, and at the end of the Raccoon Rocket, Yeah,
he's telling John c Riley, who plays a cop, like

(17:37):
but what if I want it more than the person
who owns it? And he's like, no, that's stealing and
that's pretty much illegal, because no, no, you don't understand
what if I want to what if I have to
kill him in order to have it, Like, that's murder,
and that's one of the worst crimes out there. So no,
you can't do that. But we shouldn't have to. Yeah,
we shouldn't if somebody doesn't know those simple rules.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Well, and that's the thing, they know those rules. They
just didn't care.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
They just didn't care. Yeah, and they and their stories
that Rogier was counting the money with the criminals and
at his house and smiling and laughing and everything else.
And so I don't know, it kind of feels to me,
and I know this is the way the NBA wants
it to be. Like, this is not a big scandal.
This is an isolated case with a few individuals connected

(18:25):
to the NBA who got in with the wrong people,
and now they're gonna pay the price.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
We'll see. I kind of thought.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
Yesterday that it would affect the rest of professional sports
in some way, But I think we're so used to
scandal now in our lives that maybe we just blow
it off. Maybe we just went right back to, oh, well,
watch football tonight. I'm gonna just trust it justin Herbert's
not gonna throw the game away.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
Yeah, I know that.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Like ESPN on their are other on get Up or whatever.

Speaker 6 (18:53):
They were talking about it and then quickly deleted the
ESPN bet.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yes, the bottom, but I wonder if it's back today.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
They were very careful with all their gambling sponsors, and
we've got tons of them too, so but but yes,
they were very careful with that, and maybe you don't
have to be.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
I mean, why are you trying to hide that? Yeah,
I mean you're you've.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Started out in the open legally.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
Right right, right?

Speaker 5 (19:18):
All right, let's find out what's on tap for the
rest of our show today.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
What's on tip?

Speaker 1 (19:25):
What's on tap?

Speaker 4 (19:27):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (19:28):
So, the Oklahoma City Thunder back to back double overtime
games and wins to start the season. I guess that's
never happened before that a team has started the season
with two double overtime victories. I think I overheard that.
If that's not accurate, I'm sorry I didn't look it
up in research.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
I believe it though, Yeah, I would too.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
Thursday Night Football, the Chargers just mop the field with
the Minnesota Ikings thirty seven to ten.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
The final score.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
Vikings aren't good, Chargers are and the Chargers had to
get back to playing good football. So they did it
last night. That's a win for Factor fiction.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
When I was watching, I was like, well done.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
All right, thank you. I appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
Seven thirty five, Ashley, we'll pick Factor fiction today.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
Charles Davis is going to join us.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
Without the Seahawks playing this weekend, they are on buy,
we might as well talk to an NFL guy, national guy,
and he's so kind, So he's going to join us
at seven o five today to preview the NFL weekend
bad games on Sunday, by the way, one of the
worst schedules I've ever seen as an NFL fan. I mean,
the best thing you're looking at. Chicago at Baltimore might

(20:35):
be the best early game, and that's a one in
five team. Dallas and Denver's a decent game. And then
the Sunday night game, the Aaron Rodgers Bowl. It'll be
Green Bay at Pittsburgh, Husky's host to Illinois. Saturday, twelve
thirty eight, thirty Hanks Show begins. Rick new isl We
skipped him on Tuesday because we had baseball to discuss,

(20:55):
but He's been kind enough to join us here on
a Friday, so you won't miss your Rick new Isel
conversation here on Chuck and Buck will chat with him
at nine. The Cracking with a really nice win. Six
game road trips are not easy, and usually that last
game is the hardest one. But after back to back losses,
the Cracking got it together. Joey Decord was perfect, Jayden
Schwartz had two goals and an assist, and the Kraken

(21:17):
went over the Jets three to nothing. Really enjoyed Ian
and Allison last night. Kind of watched the whole damn
thing last night. They were great in the pregame after
and intermissions. Edmondton at Seattle tomorrow at Climate Pledge Arena
at seven o'clock. Sounders will start their playoff Monday at
six against Minnesota United. We're gonna spend some time on
that Monday and World Series Game number one tonight at

(21:38):
five o'clock Snell versus Y Savage. Meanwhile, the Mariners said
goodbye for the season yesterday. Depoto Hollander Wilson all met
with the media. We're going to do a little bit
on the base on the Mariners today as well, and
we're going to start the offseason.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
Bucky's not ready to do it, but he's not here.
I am ready to do it.

Speaker 5 (22:01):
So we're gonna kind of go player by player today,
not consistently every segment, but we're gonna do a little
snapshot of most of the key players for the Mariners
heading into the offseason, and we'll incorporate that into the
ABCS of the MS. Next Sports Radio ninety three point
three KJRFM.

Speaker 7 (22:20):
Schwartz backup top, heldit my Larsen right side, back to
Shane right for a shot, tipton goal, rebound, scars Jaden
Schwartz crashing the goal and the Seattle cracking burry the
loose change.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
It's a one nothing, cracking lead.

Speaker 7 (22:34):
Chandler stevensent three on two through center for Seattle. Here's
stevensent drumps to Marshpin horsemen right circle.

Speaker 8 (22:41):
In front, Davidson right on goal and Connor Helibut stands
tall to make the save that is empty for winn
a pet Seattle force.

Speaker 7 (22:51):
The puck back to the line. Jayde Schwartz picks it up.
He'll walk down the left side. He shifts scores Jaden
Schwartz his second goal, tonight, it's an empty netter and
the Seattle Cracking get the insurance goal. Now the Jets
extra attacker back on Joey the cord around the far
side giving it up. Now Schwartz to Everly every walks

(23:14):
in scores back to back empty net goals for Seattle.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
It's a free nothing cracking lead.

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Speaker 5 (23:50):
I don't care what the sport is if you do
long road trips to win that last one, but give
credit to Coach Lambert and the Kraken are sucking it
up on the last night of a lengthy six game
East Coast road trip Northeast Coast road trip by winning
yesterday three to nothing. Joey Decord stopped every shot that
came his way. Jaden Schwartz had a two goals and

(24:12):
an assist, and there were a pair, as you heard
from Everett, of empty netters. Really a tight game throughout,
really kind of a one nothing game. But the Crack
can get the two empty netters late and they win
it by a final score of three to nothing. They're
coming home. They'll take on the Edmonton Oilers tomorrow night
out at Climate Pledge Arena. That's where our headlines start.

(24:32):
Brought to you by Frostbrewed Corps, Light Shoes Chill. World
Series Game number one is tonight. The Blue Jays and
the Dodgers doing battle tonight in Toronto. Blake Snell will
get the start, local kid, Blake Snell for the Dodgers.
And believe it or not, Trey you Savage is getting
the start in Game one of the World Series. Not

(24:55):
just a rookie, he didn't even qualify for Rookie of
the Year. This is somebody that had three starts during
the regular season for the Blue Jays and his.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
Start and they've had plenty of rest.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
Gosman could go and they're starting you Savage tonight.

Speaker 6 (25:08):
Yeah, is what a seventh starter, eighth start of the season.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yeah, yeah, he had.

Speaker 5 (25:13):
Three during the regular season, so he's had more postseason
starts in his career than he's had regular season starts
in his career. And he's getting the game one call tonight.
We'll certainly talk more Mariners later on in the show.
Huskies are gonna host Illinois tomorrow at twelve thirty. Pregame
starts at eight thirty with the Hanks Sounders Minnesota United.
They'll play Monday to start the Sounders postseason at six o'clock.

(25:36):
That's a three game series in the first round. And
the Los Angeles Chargers defeated the Minnesota Vikings thirty seven
to ten last night as Justin Herbert dominated the Vikings
bad games. On Sunday, it's a good day to kind
of skip the National Football League if you're gonna skip it.

(25:57):
Husky's Excudney Seahawks are on buy this week, which Schmidt.
We were going to give Greg Bell the day off
rather than talk about the topics we've discussed with them
all week long, but instead, Charles Davis had a mix
up on his flight, so we called Greg and said
Greg want to hop on and he said, yes, how
about it.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Yeah, okay, I'm happy to be your fallback the prom
date that's just sitting around waiting for the call.

Speaker 5 (26:20):
And I honestly I put you on the rundown yesterday.
I always send a show text.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
I had you on it. I thought you were doing it,
and then I thought that you.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
Couldn't do it because maybe you were going out of
town because you Bells like to travel.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah, my wife's john us here this time.

Speaker 5 (26:37):
Okay, all right, Well for good to have you with us. Thanks, Yeah, happy, happy.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
To be your fallback whenever you stood.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
Up our Seahawks insider Greg Bell with us right here
on Chuck and Buck in the morning. So you know
where I want to start with us where we kind
of ended yesterday. And that's the idea that in the
future there won't be just one bye week in the
National Football League that we're all braced or most people

(27:08):
should be braced anyway, for a future that includes eighteen
regular season games and two bye weeks. So the NFL season,
I think you and I both agree on this is
going to get longer here very soon, right.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yes, And it would take an exception to the collective
bargaining or going back to the bargaining table for the
players and owners to agree on changing the schedule again.
One of the premises of the last CBA, it was
signed in twenty twenty, it runs through into twenty twenty three,
was the seventeen game season, and we've talked about how

(27:45):
the veterans didn't even want that. But the rank and file,
the majority, sixty plus percent of the NFL Players Association
are minimum salary guys, and the owners raised the minimum
salary substantial from four hundred sum to seven forty. I
think it is right now for this year, and so

(28:05):
the sixty plus percent sign me up for that. I'm
going to get a three hundred thousand dollars rais right
off the top coming into the league. And that's why
the CBA got approved, not because it had a seventeen
game season, and the veterans those have been around and
didn't care about the minimum salary as much. They didn't
want this. Not to mention Roger Goodell's sweeping authority and

(28:28):
discipline on pretty much anything in the league, pension, drug testing,
there are a bunch of issues that the veteran players
that are the minority of the union didn't want and
that CBA barely passed, but it passed because of the
minimum salary thing. That's a long way of saying that
the players are not going to easily give up the

(28:48):
eighteenth game. They're going to ask for a higher percentage
of the league's revenues. It's still under fifty percent. I'm
acpecting that the players will last for more. Closer to
fifty percent of the league's revenue is going to the
players and exchange for the eighteenth game. I think what
we're headed to, Chuck, is what the NFL wants. One,

(29:08):
they want sixteen international games the year. They want every
single of the thirty two teams to play one international
game that season. The players hate that idea. And the
second thing is they're going to move the Super Bowl
to the holiday week, the President's Day holiday weekend in
mid February. To your point about extending the season longer,
adding an eighteenth game will help them get that February

(29:31):
fifteen ish Super Bowl Sunday, so that it will truly
be a national holiday where everybody doesn't have to work
the next day on the Monday. I think that's where
it's all headed, but that might not all happen. Till
the twenty thirty CBA.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
Let me ask you about another big picture thing, and
the NBA's scandal right now is forced us to think
about gambling in sports. Do you think the NFL would
use this moment to sort of reassess their relationships with
their gambling partners, not that they would not have gambling
partners and a relationship with them. I mean, it's a
big part of sports. It's a big industry, and so

(30:07):
I know that it's not going to go away. But
these daily prop bets, I mean there are bets greg
that you can make out there on how many drops
a wide receiver will have during the course of a game.
I mean, how on earth is the NFL, the NBA,
Major League Baseball supposed to monitor every individual bet and

(30:29):
whether or not a drop by a receiver in Week
sixteen and a game between Tampa and Atlanta might actually
have been motivated by gambling. Is this an opportunity for
the National Football League behind the scenes to kind of
assess how they want to have their daily prop bet

(30:50):
company relationships and maybe try to scale that down a
little bit going forward.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yes, it's an opportunity. But another question, the second and
a different question is will they do it. If the
answers no, they won't because the money it is coming
in the interest how half its TV ratings now are
because of fantasy football and betting. There are casual fans
who don't even know who the starting quarterback from some
teams are who are watching games because of those two

(31:19):
factors fantasy football and betting, and advertisers know it, and
they pay a premium for especially primetime games because of that.
And that's not going away. You're right, but we lived
a long time without that. But the effort of owners
in the league to maximize and squeeze profits out of

(31:40):
every single corner they can, they went to this, and
once it became more legal across the country, it became
a lot easier for the NFL to accept this. They
should do it, but they won't. What's even worse, Chuck,
is if you go those same prop bets exist in
college football, and how corrupt and wrong is that that

(32:01):
a high school and this is less so than it
was even five years ago because of nil, But how
easily swayed could a college kid who used to just
eat pizzas and barely get by because he wasn't allowed
to have income outside of scholarship. This is dating myself
about five years. But those guys are more and much
more influenced and potentially swayed to drop a pass or

(32:23):
any other prop that you have on a college freshman
at Central Florida or something. It's pervasive. It's so pervasive
in our society that it's not pervasive in our sports.
And this won't be the last this, Terry Roseier, this
won't be the last. And I told you yesterday the

(32:44):
NFL is so good at so many things of influence
and exerting influence and covering their tracks. It wouldn't surprise
the supposition. It wouldn't surprise me if this has happened
in the league already. We don't know about it yet
and the FBI hasn't gotten to it yet, but it
wouldn't surprise me if that's on their next frontier. And

(33:08):
it's threatens the integrity of what we watch, of what
we are so big, the huge fans of of what
we cover. I don't walk into a locker room wondering
if somebody dropped a pass on purpose the game. But
the specter is now out there, and that is what
has been created by these leagues or lack of a

(33:30):
bud buddy Gary Washburn of the Bus and Club Group
yesterday for being in bed with betting companies, because that's
exactly what's going on.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
Ours inside of Greg bell as whether as you can
follow them at g bel Seattle, of course, and Thenewstribune
dot com for complete Seahawks coverage. It is by week
for the Seahawks that it allows us here on a
Friday talk about some big picture items. And one topic
that just kept coming up this week came up on
the roundtable.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
I get it. I know you get it as well.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
When Hugh says, man for the greater interest of the offense,
you got to get more people involved than Jackson Smith
and Jigma. The difference between targets to him and everybody
else is just out of whack. And yet, how do
you restrict something that is working so effectively. I want
to get Jackson Smith and Jigba the ball as many

(34:17):
times as possible. So how do the Seahawks not curtail
what JSN is doing to defensive secondaries in the league
while getting Tory Horton some development and Cooper Cups some
satisfaction and getting tight Ends more involved in the offense
without jeopardizing how often you're trying to establish the run game.

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So tell me how Clint Kubiak's going to manage all
of this, Greg Well.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Ultimately, what it comes down to is Kubiak can design
whatever and call whatever plays he wants. And he could
say the Cup is the primary on this one, or
Horton is or Barner is, but it's up to the
guy who throws the ball. And if he's reading or
trusting that Stiff and Jigglin is my guy on this play,
that I have a better chance of converting this fourth

(35:06):
and one by throwing an eighteen yard out to Smith
and Jigba than a two yard out to Barner, then
he's gonna throw it there right exactly. And the more
times the results are positive, which so far they've been
NFL best positive, that reinforces Darnold's decision in the snap
when he's being chased by three hundred pound guys. He's

(35:28):
getting paid to make the right decision at the right
time to throw the ball to the right place. It
doesn't matter what the play call is. If he thinks
that Smith and jig was his best option, he's going there.
And there have been times in the last couple of weeks.
He's even been going backside to Smith and Jigga where
they's rolled that one way in the front side play
and the Reds are all in front of him, he'll

(35:49):
go find Smith and Jigmab back across the field in
the backside. And because he's leading the league by so
many yards you pointed out out yesterday's like two hundred
yards above any Jamar Chas or anybody else. That shows
you that when push comes to shove, star Old's gonna
throw it to number eleven and nobody's covering Alm, So

(36:09):
why not. No one's been able to cover him so
far consistently this season, So you're right, that will be
games that teams will just say, forget it. We're putting
two on Smith and Jigba, and we're gonna leave guys
Scott free wide open, and then then the reads will
be to Cup and to Barner. It's not like cupping Barner,
especially Barnar. It's not like he's been ignored. He had
four touchdown catches in the first five games of the season.

(36:32):
But the Caponoran said, yes, it's unusual in the NFL.
This is more like a college football deal where the
star receiver is getting all the receptions and targets that
is unusual. Does it catch up to him? So far
Smith and Jigbab is beating all coverage, he's beating shadow coverage,
he's beating Cloud, he's beaten Man, he's beaten zone. I'm

(36:54):
with you. If it's still working, they'll just say, well,
I'm not gonna throw him because I've been thrown to
him too much.

Speaker 5 (36:59):
And it could be a problem if other people are
complaining about it. But no one's complaining about it, are they.
None of the other Seahawk receivers. Nobody's bothered miffed that
JSN is getting targeted so much.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
No, not that I know I even. No one's expressed that.
And it helps that they won five of seven games.
If they were two and five, you might hear something
from Cup or few other guys about what we do it,
but no, they're smart enough and veteran. If they're five
and two.

Speaker 5 (37:24):
All right, since we're having kind of a big picture session.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
Tyler Lockett got released this week.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
He did.

Speaker 5 (37:32):
I would imagine somebody's gonna pick him up, and I
would imagine he's going to make a couple of more
big catches in his career, probably with a playoff caliber
team here down the stretch.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
But man, I for a self aware as Tyler Lockett
always has been.

Speaker 5 (37:48):
I wish that he would have just said, I'm not
gonna go play for the Titans. If that's my best offer,
what a great career. I'm just going to retire a
Seahawk every snap with the Seahawks. I kind of wish
that he would have had that moment with himself.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
You know, I thought I was really surprised when he
signed with Tennessee. When I was talking to him at
the end of last season on and off the record,
on stuff in print and not, I was pretty convinced
that he's like, you know what, this has been great,
and I thought it was important to him that he
was going to play for his entire career for Jesse
Seattle and how rare that is for ten years one
team in them out. It's surprising me when he signed,

(38:27):
and he deserves You're right, he deserves a team that's
going to go to the playoffs and give him a role.
I don't know if he'll get that, but that's what
he deserves. It's not coming back to Seattle. I can
almost assure you that, yeah, not because they don't want to,
just that doesn't there's no roster fit at the moment.
He would take an injury to one of their frontline
guys for him and even interested, But don't we for him.

(38:49):
He's a man who is well set and has his
priorities in order and to take care of his wife
and his new family and a second career in real
estate and philanthropy back in Tulsa and here in the
Pacific Northwest. Still he still has a lot of roots here.
He probably will be one of the guys that comes
back and maybe, if not lives here, comes back a lot.

(39:09):
But yeah, his priorities are in the right place and
he's not going to play years in a couple more
years and years just to keep playing. It did surprise
me to answer question he was even playing one more
year for Tennessee.

Speaker 5 (39:22):
He should follow Dad's footsteps. I bet you the Chiefs
could use a guy like that. Yeah, just retire in
Dad's uniform.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
The teams are pretty good about getting a veteranary. Other teams, Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
Bet you Mahomes could find some use for him.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Yeah, I was gonna say that wouldn't be a bad
way to end your career with Patrick Mahomes in a
playoff push.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
All right, Greg, well, thank you very much.

Speaker 5 (39:44):
You know exceptionally this time, so we appreciate you being
there for us. Have a great weekend without having to
cover anything, and we'll talk to you again next week.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Yeah. I enjoy the weekend. I know how it would
be to just chucking for a twenty minute segment, so that.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
I thought that was great.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
I loved that conversation right there. I love most of them,
but that was I thought that was exceptional. All Right,
thanks Greg. Appreciate that Greg Bell.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
Is with us right here on Chuck and Buck in
the morning.

Speaker 5 (40:16):
Anybody that has listened to the show, anybody that's ever
worked for me, knows I don't need help filling a
twenty minute segment.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
Yeah. I kind of have a gift for that.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
But I was hoping to have somebody on today and
we're gonna have Charles Davis.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
But it's nice to have Greg there. I love that conversation.

Speaker 5 (40:37):
We got to talk about some big picture items which
normally we don't get to discuss. So thank you, thank you,
thank you to Greg Bell our Seahawks Insider, and of
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Speaker 5 (42:31):
Yeah, so, welcome into the show. Welcome into the eight
o'clock hour. The show is the eight top stories of
the day. Used to do it every day, Now we
only do it on Fridays. It's a service we provide.
We recap the week, we get you ready for the
weekend at the exact same time, giving you the eight
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here today. That's the ninth biggest story of the day.

(42:53):
So it didn't quite make the old chow. Yeah, so
we will couldn't find any audio. Ashley Ryan is here though,
my name is Chuck Powellin here we go.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
We'll get started with the Mariners, whose.

Speaker 5 (43:06):
Twenty twenty five season came to an end at the
beginning of the week, losing in crushing fashion to the
Toronto Blue Jays in the American League Championship Series Game
number seven, and so reluctantly we give ourselves to the offseason,
which has officially begun for the Mariners, and it really

(43:28):
doesn't until we hear from the three wise men, Dan Wilson,
Justin Hollander, Jerry Depoto all met with the media yesterday
in very informal fashion. It wasn't behind microphone, it wasn't
behind a desk. It was just standing around with the
media and openly answering whatever questions the media had for them.

(43:52):
Jerry Depoto, of course, has had to consider all of
the criticism of Dan Wilson and his decisions in Game
number seven back on Monday all week long, and he
just wanted to clear the air on how much he
supports his manager.

Speaker 9 (44:07):
His calm, He is methodical, and everything he does he
trusts in the people around him, from the coaches to
the players. Especially the players leans in and wants it
to be a player driven environment with player leadership that
comes from the clubhouse out and you know, his leadership
style is to cultivate that leadership within the clubhouse and

(44:30):
has been from the time he was working as a
special assistant in player development.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
You know, he is.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
He is.

Speaker 9 (44:40):
More thoughtful about the player as a person than just
about anybody I've been around.

Speaker 5 (44:45):
In Dan Wilson not going anywhere, I think we knew that. Yeah,
and yeah, that pretty much emphasizes how much Jerry Depoto
supports him. And we've talked about this over the years.
There's so much more to being a manager. There's a
reason they call it a manager, not a head coach.
At the major league Baseball level, I mean, you're dealing with,

(45:07):
you know, somebody, You're dealing with twenty six guys on
a daily basis that were the best player on their
team for almost their entire lives. Okay, And then you're
dealing with guys who are making millions of dollars a
lot more than you are, and some of them are
making a lot more than their teammates. And some of
them aren't even as good as some guys that make

(45:33):
make more money or less money, or whatever the case
may be.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
You see what I'm saying. And so it is a constant.

Speaker 5 (45:39):
And then you're dealing people that have personal lives that
sometimes interfere, and then you have relationships, you know, guys
that get into battles within the clubhouse that don't like
each other. So that really is the main job of
the manager, managing all of the personalities. Managing the day

(45:59):
to day game operations, and x'es and o's are important,
it's an important part of it. But if you're good
at all that other stuff, then there are ways to
handle the x's and o's better, which I'll talk to
talk about here in a moment. But that's Jerry Depoto saying,
not only is Dan Wilson good at all of that
other stuff managing all of that stuff, He's the best

(46:20):
I've ever seen at managing all of that stuff. And
so that's why Dan Wilson, despite our criticisms, which I
think personally are legitimate, of his in game operations, that's
why he's not going anywhere because the things that really
are the biggest part of his job he's been very
good at, and obviously Jerry Depoto thinks he's awesome at.

Speaker 6 (46:41):
Yeah, it was nice hearing Jerry's thoughts on what Dan's
strengths are from, you know, just from their perspective and
hearing him be emotional about his manager and about his
team and everything. I mean, I thought of Jerry's press
conference the best part or not press conference, but you
know whatever. The best part for me was when Jessman

(47:03):
asked him one word to describe how you feel right
now or how you feel about this season, and he said,
you know, I'm gonna give you a different answer now
than I probably will a month from now, but disappointed. Yeah,
And then he got emotional and teared up and then
just finished with yeah, just disappointed. And I almost got

(47:25):
Tierry just watching him, because you know, again, we all
think so many people think these guys are just up
there doing things.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
They don't really care about these things.

Speaker 6 (47:32):
And Jerry has gotten a lot of flack for not caring, yes,
but clearly he does.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
Yeah. Jess Mean will do that to you.

Speaker 5 (47:39):
She's like the Roy Firestone of modern day broadcast.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
That's what I've always called her.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
Yeah, she wants you to cry. All He's doing that
in the office too.

Speaker 5 (47:48):
As for Jerry's thoughts on the actual that seventh inning
decision that will be debated for generations, it's hard to
make those decisions in real time, I'll never begrudge him
Dan for making a move he believed in end quote,
so not holding it against him, but not exactly supporting
the decision.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
He's not exactly saying, oh, it's the right move.

Speaker 5 (48:10):
Zarta has been great in that situation, but obviously that's
not going to interfere. Dan Wilson's been given sort of
control over those in game operations, which was a big
question mark back in the Scott Service days. People thought
the decisions were being made overhead. I can tell you personally,
whenever I've asked Justin Orchierry about that specific topic, they always,

(48:32):
whether it's on Mike or off Mike, say oh, that's
Dan Deacy.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
We don't have anything to do with it.

Speaker 5 (48:38):
And so I don't know why they would consistently lie
about that if it wasn't true. All that said something
that I talked about yesterday in our nine o'clock hour.

Speaker 4 (48:47):
I think Dan Wilson needs some help.

Speaker 5 (48:49):
Yeah, and I do think he struggled with in game decisions,
and it wasn't just a standalone Eddie Bizardo decision.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
I think he.

Speaker 5 (48:56):
Struggled with in game decisions all season long and his
first full year on the job, and I certainly trust
that he will get better and the game will slow
down for him the more that he manages. But I
think they need an upgrade at bench coach. I think
there are a lot of great candidates out there, guys
that while he's, you know, spinning all the plates and

(49:17):
doing all the juggling, there's somebody that is just thinking
about strategy, that is just there as a sounding board,
or maybe just somebody saying, hey, Dan, you know Springer
and Guerrero could come up here in the next inning.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
Yeah, maybe we want Muon Yos up. Yeah, maybe we
want him up now yea. And maybe that happened. Maybe
many actor did that in the dugout.

Speaker 5 (49:38):
I don't know, but but I just I think that
he could use some Yoda type sage sitting there.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
I don't think it could hurt that's.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
Not looking to climb the corporate ladder, that's not looking
to take his job, that respects him, loves him, and
wants him.

Speaker 4 (49:56):
To do well.

Speaker 5 (49:57):
And I think that that might be something the mayor
understood tap into this offseason. But all right, well, we've
got a lot of time talk Mariners offseason coming up
throughout the entire winter and at one point I will
get really excited about doing that, but maybe that's not now.
In the meantime, Item number two on the O Show

(50:18):
World Series Game one tonight.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
If you're excited about that, I do care.

Speaker 5 (50:26):
First bitch five PM from Toronto tonight. Interesting decision for
John Schneider, the Worst, John.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
The bad John Schneider, Treya Savage.

Speaker 5 (50:37):
Yes, Treya Savage is getting the start for the Blue
Jayson Game one. I mean they've had several days off,
they could start Kevin Gosman, and instead John Schneider is
going with rookie Treya Savage. We talked about this earlier.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
In the show.

Speaker 5 (50:52):
He has more postseason starts in his career than regular
season starts in his career. Can you believe that somebody
that three career regular season starts and is starting Game
one of the World Series when Schneider could have picked
anyone in his entire organization.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Yeah, it's crazy to me. This is I think I
figured it out.

Speaker 6 (51:12):
This would be his seventh start total, and that is insane.

Speaker 5 (51:16):
So three in the postseason, three in the regular season,
fourth and this would be okay, yeow, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (51:22):
Blake Snell will get the start for the Dodgers, who
have just been mowing people down in the playoffs. Last year,
the Dodgers had a great starting rotation, but everybody was
hurt by the time they got to the playoffs. This year,
everybody was hurt during the regular season, with the exception
of Yamamoto, and now they're all healthy in time for
the playoffs. So it's the best rotation money can buy.

(51:44):
I mean, they didn't develop one of those guys. Blake
Snell and Tyler glasnow are both from the Rays. Yamamoto
and Otani were brought over one from Japan and then
Otani free agent from the Angels. So to have those
guys and the way they're pitching right now. I'm not
saying this because I don't want Toronto to win, even

(52:07):
though I don't want Toronto to win, but I think
that it doesn't get out of LA. I think the
Dodgers win in four or five. And before any Toronto
fan thinks I'm being biased, I would have said the
same thing about us. Yeah, I think that they're just
playing that well. They're just pitching that well, and they
are and they're healthy.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
They seem unstoppable.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
They're the best team money could buy.

Speaker 5 (52:31):
Yeah, and they're not banged up like they normally are
this time of the year. So first pitch, five o'clock
from Toronto. The World Series gets started tonight. If that
interests you, I don't care.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
Item number three.

Speaker 5 (52:43):
The Huskies will be in action tomorrow against the fighting
a line of Illinois.

Speaker 4 (52:47):
And I know, I know.

Speaker 5 (52:49):
Look, look, I'm ten years Washingtonian, ten years of Seattle like,
and I know how intimidating it can be to face
the program I grew up with.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
One hundred years of mediocrity.

Speaker 5 (53:04):
Can really be an intimidating thing to go up against, no.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
Matter what year you faced them.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Terrifying.

Speaker 5 (53:10):
So when you gotta face Illinois, my sympathies are with
my new Husky fans.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Okay, yeah, thank you. Sorry, Ashley, No, that's sorry.

Speaker 5 (53:20):
You got to go up against the ghost of Dick
Buckus Saturday.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
I don't know. Now, I'm just picturing the ghost of
Dick Buckers.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
He's a large for some reason, yeah, I think.

Speaker 6 (53:30):
Yes, yeah, but for some reason the ghost of him
is making me laugh.

Speaker 5 (53:34):
Is the ghost of Dick Buckus the guy from my
two Dads or the football player?

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Definitely the guy from my two Dads.

Speaker 5 (53:41):
Twelve thirty kickoff from Montlake. Illinois actually is good this year.
They are five and two, same record as the Huskies,
two and two in conference, same record as the Huskies. Illinois, though,
enters this game ranked twenty third in America. Cam Cleveland
was on with US Wednesday and gave us a little
profile of the Illinois.

Speaker 10 (54:00):
Well, it's it's Brett v. Lama, and if you ever
watch any of his style of football, you'll see that
they're two losses in a ranked team. So that that
matters because they he knows how to coach the line
I are, they can be beat, no question. It's really
going to come down to what's our health going to
look like. I'm going to say this the rest of
the season, we will live and die. In my opinion,
with how Demand carries himself in this game, he's put

(54:23):
himself on a shoulder as he carries the team's energy
and the speed and the tempo. He has that kind
of athleticism. So I like to see him be able
to take advantage of the defense because they are they
are a good defense, but they're not a great defense.
And then from our defensive perspective versus their offense, it
just is it is there going to be the ability
to stop edge, contain tight ends in the flat and

(54:46):
I know coach Walters addressed that. So there's there's just
so many factors going to this football game. But you
got to defend home turf boys. We have to at
this point. You're going to make a run late in
the season to get ready to be in position at
the end of the year against Oregon. You need these
home games like there's no tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
Dogs are favored by four and a half points.

Speaker 5 (55:04):
I'll say this about Illinois, and this is with all seriousness,
I'll take the tongue out of my cheek. I think
you are going to get a good effort from them,
Oh absolutely, And I think that you are facing a
quality football opponent. I don't know what we get out
of the Dogs from week to week. I don't know
what we get out of Demon Williams from week to week.
I don't know why with offensive mind like Jedfish, who

(55:26):
is as accomplished as he is, that this team can't
play good offense until the second half for four straight
weeks in a row, and so you better play a
good version of you dub football or you're going to
lose this game. You certainly aren't going to cover four
and a half points. So I know what you're gonna

(55:47):
get from Illinois.

Speaker 4 (55:48):
You're gonna get.

Speaker 5 (55:48):
Good quarterback play from Altmeyer, and you're gonna get a
defense that's gonna pop you in them out. That's what
you're gonna get from Illinois. What are we gonna get
from you?

Speaker 4 (55:56):
Dub?

Speaker 5 (55:57):
That to me is the mystery going into this game.
And I wish that I didn't have to say that,
because nobody wants to be.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
A coach of a inconsistent football team, right.

Speaker 5 (56:10):
That reflects on the coaching staff when you don't know
what you're getting from your players from.

Speaker 4 (56:14):
Week to week.

Speaker 6 (56:14):
Yeah, and inconsistent is definitely the way to describe them,
and that they're in no position to look past anyone
Illinois Perdue whoever.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
It is like you, you're right about that.

Speaker 6 (56:23):
Yeah, you need to be coming and bringing your a
game every single week.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Because you looked terrible last week.

Speaker 5 (56:29):
It's not a great college football weekend. The SEC is
probably gonna have to carry it to a degree. The
only three games featuring ranked teams all from the SEC.
Eight Ole Miss at thirteen, Oklahoma at nine am Mazoo
fifteenth in the country at number ten, Vanderbilt at twelve
thirty and number three Texas A and M at number twenty,
LSU at four thirty. Rick new Isiel was not with

(56:51):
us Tuesday, but ahha, he's going to join us today
at nine o'clock to talk about the upcoming week in
college football. Meanwhile, the Seahawks are on Otherwise they would
have been a hot lot higher on the OHO list.
Greg Bell was on with us this morning to talk
about Jackson Smith and Jigma. In this ongoing conversation about

(57:12):
all right, how do we balance not taking catches away
from JSN because he's thriving, and also getting other people involved,
it seems like a really difficult task for Clint Kubiak.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Ultimately, what it comes down to is Kubiak can design
whatever and call whatever plays he wants. And he could
say the cup is the primary on this one, or
Hohrton is where Barner is, But it's up to the
guy who throws the ball and if he's reading or
trusting that this and Jig is my guy on this play,
that I have a better chance of converting this fourth

(57:46):
and one by throwing an eighteen yard out to Smith
and Jigba than a two yard out to Barner, then
he's gonna.

Speaker 4 (57:51):
Throw it there right and the one and two.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Exactly, And the more times the results are positive, which
so far they've been NFL best positive that reinforces Darnold's
decision in the snap when he's being chased by three
hundred pound guys. He's getting paid to make the right
decision at the right time to throw the ball to
the right place. It doesn't matter what the play call is.
If he thinks that the Smith and jig was his

(58:16):
best option, he's going there.

Speaker 4 (58:19):
Shucks five and two tied to top the NFC West.

Speaker 5 (58:23):
They will next play on a Sunday night against the
Washington Commanders. Will have no idea whether or not Jayden
Daniels will play in that game for a while. He's
certainly not playing this weekend. This week in the National
Football League will be played without the Seahawks, of course,
But last night the Chargers and the Vikings got it started.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
Second of ten at the twenty seven yard line.

Speaker 5 (58:45):
Chargers up fourteen to three, looking for more Herbert sets
and throws, floating.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
It down the right sideline.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
McConkey is open. He drops it down the sideline into
the end zone.

Speaker 5 (58:54):
Alad mcconkee touchdown makes it twenty to three. Los Angeles
Chargers rule to a thirty seven to ten win over
the Minnesota Vikings thanks to a prime video for the audio.

Speaker 4 (59:07):
Justin Herbert threw.

Speaker 5 (59:08):
Three touchdown passes and Cam Dicker kicked three field goals,
and of course I was going against both of them
in fantasy sewer.

Speaker 4 (59:15):
Yeah, it's been one of those years.

Speaker 5 (59:17):
Chargers improved a five and three, the Vikings fall to
three and four.

Speaker 4 (59:20):
Kind of a crappy.

Speaker 5 (59:21):
Week in the National Football League. No wonder the Seahawks
are on by. They don't want to be associated with it.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
I get it.

Speaker 5 (59:26):
Not great games. The best early game or at least
most intriguing. Chicago at Baltimore, a one in five team,
is your most intriguing early game. Dallas at Denver in
the afternoon, and then the Sunday night game is the
Aaron Rodgers Bowl.

Speaker 4 (59:40):
The Green Bay Packers will be at Pittsburgh.

Speaker 5 (59:43):
The Kraken finished a long road trip in impressive fashion.
Usually that last game of a road trip's a tough
one to win, but the Kraken put it together.

Speaker 7 (59:53):
Smarts backup top. Hell, did my Larsen right side pact
to Shane right before shot? Tiptok goal rebound score, Jaded
Swartz crashing the goal and the Seattle Cracket burry the
loose change. It's a one nothing Cracking lead, seventeen thirty
two left in the second period.

Speaker 5 (01:00:11):
All the delightful ever fits you on the call of
Cracking hockey right here at Sports Radio ninety three point
three KJRFM. Jade Schwartz scored two goals, including one of
two empty netters late. This was really a one nothing
hockey game with Joey Decord saving everybody's biscuits. Thirty two
saves thirty two opportunities, and the Cracking go on to

(01:00:32):
a three to nothing win.

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
That's a big that's a nice win for coach Lambert.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
That is a great win. Yeah, no biscuits in the basket.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:00:38):
Cracking are four to two and two on the early season.
They return home after a lengthy six game road trip.
They host Edmonton tomorrow night at Climate Pledge Arena. They'll
drop the puck at seven o'clock and the NBA is
brand new into its season. The Thunder have already played
two double overtime games in three days.

Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
But the all the NBA world.

Speaker 5 (01:00:59):
All the sports world yesterday was talking about nothing but
the scandal involving the FBI, Chauncey Phillips, Terry Rosier, Damon
Jones and all sorts of illegal nonsense.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
Boy, we got a scandal on our hand.

Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
Interesting thing because Greg Bile and I talked about this
earlier today, like the NFL should use this as an
opportunity to make.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Sure what clean things up. The clean things up.

Speaker 5 (01:01:25):
And I think to address their relationship with the Daily
prop bets. And and after we had that conversation Pro
Football Talk, Greg sent me a little text, yeah, saying,
given the Terry Rogier situation, the obvious question is whether
the NFL eventually will have an unders scandal regarding player
prop bets. The less obvious question is whether it has

(01:01:46):
already happened. And so this is Pro Football Talk also
saying the NFL needs to like address this right now
and make sure that they don't have their own scandal
going forward and cast.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
Doubt over their own product.

Speaker 5 (01:02:01):
Is there anything wrong with getting together with daily prop
Bets and just saying on the individual players you can
only bet overs. No, But if you only bet could
only bet overs on individual player prop bets, daily prop bets.
That way, the only way that you can win the
bet is if the player.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
Is over at chy.

Speaker 6 (01:02:18):
Yeah, if he's actually going out and doing what he's
supposed to do or above what he's supposed to do.

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
Why not? Is that like stupid?

Speaker 6 (01:02:24):
I don't think. I mean I was thinking the same thing.
It doesn't make sense to me why it couldn't happen.
But I also am not a huge gambler, So maybe
it has to have the boat both options and which
case then get rid of the prop bets.

Speaker 5 (01:02:34):
Well, I would think that you bet the over or
you lose the bet, so you do have one way
you're going to go or they But if we can't
bet the unders, not on teams but on individual players
on their prop bets, yeah, well, would that not solve
worrying on a day to day basis about whether or
not somebody is dropping balls on purpose or missing shots

(01:02:55):
on purpose?

Speaker 6 (01:02:56):
I would think so it seems like an easy fix
to me, but clearly it must not be or they
would have come up with it.

Speaker 5 (01:03:02):
I haven't given it a lot of thought, admittedly, but
maybe maybe all right, coming on next. Jerry Depoto had
lots to say yesterday at their season ending press conference.
We'll hear from him next on Sports Radio ninety three
point three KJRFM each time.

Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
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Speaker 11 (01:03:18):
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Speaker 11 (01:03:27):
Na, those new Heidels used to be a moniker of mine.
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Speaker 11 (01:03:41):
This is college football and I want you to get
it all over yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
Rick new Isel every week, usually on Tuesdays.

Speaker 5 (01:03:49):
So let me first by saying thank you for accommodating
our baseball coverage and then still joining us this week
here on a Friday, wouldn't have been the same not
chatting with you this week.

Speaker 11 (01:04:00):
Always a pleasure to talk college football with you. And
I'm so sorry about the Mariners.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
But what a great year.

Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
Anyway, Yeah, it was a great year.

Speaker 5 (01:04:08):
And and after a little bit of time, most people
are going to accept that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
Right now, Right now, they're have a hard time with
that coach.

Speaker 11 (01:04:17):
Understood, you get that close to the uh to the fruit,
it's it's it's difficult to come away empty handed. But
that just makes us hungrier next year.

Speaker 5 (01:04:26):
I got to ask, I want to start our conversation
by asking you about this NBA story yesterday and what
kind of reaction you think the powers that be in
college football had to it. I think the NFL Roger
Goodell should have sent a warning to him, and I
would think that college football as well. How difficult it

(01:04:47):
is for college coaches, everybody involved to have to deal
with the specter that is the popularity, overwhelming popularity of gambling.

Speaker 11 (01:04:57):
Well, it's fascinating. As a matter of act. On Sports Center,
I think it was Greeney right that was sitting there
talking about the story, and they had ESPN bet on
the bottom third on that little sign board right that
does all the advertising, and they had to end up
taking it off because it was embarrassing. But we are

(01:05:20):
in a world where gambling is prevalent and everybody's making
a ton of money off it. As a matter of fact,
on November first, every college athlete and college coach can
bet on pro sports because they can't keep up with it.
There's no way to monitor what you're doing, so they're
going to say, go ahead and bet. You remember last
year a couple of kids at both Iowa State and

(01:05:41):
Iowa were deprived of their eligibility for you know, being
on those DraftKings things, or using their parents' DraftKings accounts
to bet on games. It's prevalent, it's just out there,
and these prop bets are really scary because now individuals
can literally just say I'm not going to play after
I start a game and basically make sure that anybody

(01:06:03):
who bet on the under is correct. So I get,
I get why we're in this, uh, in this world.
What I can understand is these guys making millions and
millions of dollars, risking all that for for money that
can't be anywhere close to that, right what they're already yearning.
It can't be, and yet they find themselves. To me,

(01:06:26):
there's something suspicious about this, and it feels like they're
being extorted, like somebody's got something on them and they're
being forced to do things that these uh, these uh
you know cartels or mafia or whatever, right, the Cosa Nostra,
well whatever, it is. It's forcing. It seems like they're
being coerced to go along because there's some some information

(01:06:49):
that they just don't want out there.

Speaker 5 (01:06:51):
Yeah, I floated this out earlier in the show. Is
there any problem with just you can only bet the over?

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
You know?

Speaker 5 (01:07:00):
Therefore if you lose, you know, then you lose, you
don't get the over. But it would deincentivize people from
players from being tempted to take money to drop games
or drop passes, or whatever the case may be. I
don't know if I've had enough time to think about that,

(01:07:20):
but I would think that NFL College Football want to
align with the people that run these daily prop services.
They know they're not going to get rid of them,
but can we work together to figure out how we
can streamline this process so that we aren't made to
look suspicious game after game for years to come.

Speaker 11 (01:07:40):
Well, it wasn't so long ago. Remember here, we had
this scandal in college basketball where all the shoe companies
guys were kind of they arrested four different assistant coaches
around the country on the same day. These stories yesterday
in the NBA were not parallel. I mean that one
was about you know, performing or pulling himself out of

(01:08:01):
a game to make sure that people who voted on
his props would have benefited. The other was a poker game.
I mean, the fact that they announced them both on
the same day seems to me like a kind of
a media scheme rather than than necessarily a expose onto
a real problem. From this standpoint, So listen, what did

(01:08:22):
you think was going to happen when you when you
started putting all this stuff out there, right, and the
ability to press send on your phone to make a bet?
What do you think was going to happen? So it
is a reminder that we've got to monitor it, monitor
it closely. But the technology out there to you know,
uncover irregularities is pretty amazing and I'm glad for it.

Speaker 5 (01:08:43):
Yeah, we have bets out there where you can bet
on a backup two guard to have fewer assists than
a number.

Speaker 4 (01:08:52):
Incredible, it's incredible. It's incredible. We've been it out that much.

Speaker 11 (01:08:57):
Yeah, Yeah, it's it's amazing. What's availab and be careful
of what you wish for in life.

Speaker 5 (01:09:03):
Right, Yeah, I want to ask you about another big
picture topic. I don't think it was a coincidence that
Nebraska played its worst game of the year last week
with their coach being rumored to be going to Penn
State and not denying those rumors. I'm not sure it
was a coincidence that Washington played so poorly against Michigan,
because even if Jedfish is not involved in other head

(01:09:28):
coaching possibilities, the fact that the rumor was out there,
I do wonder what kind of effect that has on
eighteen to twenty two year olds as they're getting ready
for their preparation. To remain focused on what's the big
picture here.

Speaker 11 (01:09:43):
Well, maybe you're aware of what Matt Ruhle did or
didn't do in terms of talking with this team about it,
or Jed did or didn't do it talking to his
team about what's out there as you know, considered the noise.
I'm not aware. But those things are distractions. And for
the coach who said no distractions, the great Bill Belichick,

(01:10:04):
he's been fraught with them.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Right.

Speaker 11 (01:10:05):
There have been more distractions at North Carolina than you
could ever shake a stick at. And so as the
coach listen, we understand that that's a good thing. When
they're being sought by other programs, that means they're doing
a good job that they're considered, you know, that kind
of elite coach. That's all good, but those conversations and

(01:10:26):
they need to be honest. Conversations with the team are
essential so that you can get back to the focus
of what's really important. Nebraska's got a tough game this week.
They got Northwestern, who, by the way, very quietly has
won their last three, including a win over Penn State
at Penn State and a shutout of Purdue last week.

(01:10:47):
So to me, this is an interesting game in Lincoln,
and if Matt Rule has any interest in being the
coach at Penn State, he needs to win because Penn
State fans aren't going to settle for a guy who
can't beat Minnesota and Northwestern.

Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
Yeah, that's a great way of looking at it.

Speaker 5 (01:11:06):
Rick new Eisl is with us our college football insider,
joining us here of course from CBS Sports, as he
gets ready for another big college football weekend. You know Jedfish,
we all know he's a terrific offensive mind. How do
you explain why the offense here for the Huskies is
getting off to just horrendously slow starts. I mean, they've

(01:11:28):
more often than not picked it up in the second half,
but they just can't get off to a good start offensively.

Speaker 11 (01:11:36):
You know, I don't know if the different time zones
have anything to do with that. I know in talking
to my son who's going to be playing at Indiana tomorrow,
that you know, the complications of leaving two days before
is an irregularity, and so forth. At the end of
the day, this offense goes as Demon Williams goes, and

(01:11:56):
Demon Williams in the two games that they've lost is negative,
been rushing. I think one game he was negative eighteen
and maybe that was this last weekend against Michigan and
minus twenty nine against Ohio State. I think Jed needs
to spend more time figuring out at absolutely calculated runs
rather than just relying on him to make plays with

(01:12:17):
his legs, which obviously is a bonus, but I think
to find more ways for him to be featured in
the running game will unlock a little bit more of
that offense and get him off to a faster start,
maybe eliminate some of those turnovers which happened predominantly in
third and long situations.

Speaker 5 (01:12:35):
Have they started this Jerry Neweiel statue yet there near
Pauly pavilion or oh.

Speaker 11 (01:12:40):
Goodness, hush, huh huh. We don't need any more of
that talk. I wrote my son. I wrote my son
a poem the other day. I said, listen, the true
competitor never listens to the fuss, because if you do,
it'll be like being run over by a bus, and
while you're laying there splattered, you'll remember what mattered.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
At the end of the day.

Speaker 11 (01:13:00):
It's all about us.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
This is not about you. This is not about.

Speaker 11 (01:13:04):
Anybody in particular. It's about the team finding a way
to get ready for the next one. Stop listening to
the chatter because it just doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 (01:13:16):
I liked that it was Susie and more than it
was Maya Angelo like.

Speaker 4 (01:13:20):
It was.

Speaker 11 (01:13:23):
Very very doctor suit. That's the extent of my literary
That's the extent of my literary prowess.

Speaker 4 (01:13:29):
Right there, ring New Eisle with us.

Speaker 5 (01:13:32):
All right, So before we get too far away from you,
dub Illinois, I just talked about this about an hour ago.
You're going to get a good effort from Illinois. I'm
not sure what kind of performance we're going to get
out of Washington. So how do you match these two up?

Speaker 11 (01:13:48):
You know, Brett Bailima is a unique character in the
world of college coaching. He's the first that I think
I know of that put his offensive line on the
cover of the Media Guide several years ago while coaching
at Arkansas. He's born in the Wold Noseguard. He's all
about French warfare, and yet this team is not the

(01:14:09):
most physical. This is not his usual team. It's really
about his quarterback, Luke Altmeyer, and their ability to kind
of come from behind. Altmeyer's got six come from behind
victories as the quarterback at Illinois, which is the most
in the Big Ten. I think Washington will be fine
in this game again, assuming that Demon Williams gets back

(01:14:32):
to being able to run the ball for positive yardage.
That puts the defense on the heels, and that's not
been Illinois strength, and they really don't have a running
game to challenge that and control the ball like maybe
Ohio State did when the last time Washington lost a
home game. So to me, I like the dogs in

(01:14:52):
this game, but they've got to get back to playing
air free and Demon Williams football.

Speaker 5 (01:14:58):
Diego Pavia's heisman pose premature or prophetic.

Speaker 11 (01:15:04):
I think this kid's just I think this kid's just
the coolest. I met him at the SEC media days
and he is who he says he is. It is
not an act. He is charming as the day is long.
You would love him, and I'm here for it. I
just think this is the coolest story. Obviously, I am

(01:15:25):
a little bit biased because Clark Lee was on my
staff at UCLA and I'm really proud of what's happening there.
But this Diego guy has given Vanderbilt and the entire
university an edge, and that edge is fun to watch,
and it's not an accident. When was the last time, Chuck,
you heard Vanderbilt scoring forty one points a game? Never,

(01:15:46):
that's Vanderbilt, That's never right. They were favored last week
against LSU for the first time since nineteen forty seven.
So this is rare air stuff and I'm here for it.
And while Missouri's have a great year, and Eli Drinkwitz
is also you know, a guy that probably needs the
brass up re up him because he's going to be

(01:16:08):
in the all these coaching searches, whether it be at
Florida or Penn State. I think Vanderbilt gets the win.

Speaker 5 (01:16:16):
Ole Miss at Oklahoma obviously, old Miss can't afford to
slide here. And yet Lane Kiffen was involved in some
of those coaching rumors this week. So how does he
convince his players he's not going anywhere and that they
need to be focused on Oklahoma.

Speaker 11 (01:16:32):
Well, the good news at Ole Miss is this is regular. Yeah,
he's always in the coaching search. You recall the Auburn
game not so very long ago, although they ended up
losing that game to Mississippi State. So this is this
is you know, the usual suspects. Now the Jimmy Sexton
client list is all out there, so I don't think

(01:16:54):
this impacts. But I do think Oklahoma wins the game
because Oklahoma's front seven can can stop the run. As
good as Trinidad Sambliss has played, he can't gloss over
the fact that that defense gave up a bunch of
points last week to Georgia. And I think John Mattier
having another week to heal and including his legs in
the offense is enough for you to get the win.

Speaker 5 (01:17:16):
In Norman LSU and Texas A and m as Marcel
Reid getting overlooked in this Heisman talking, is that good
for him? And then secondarily, are they a national championship contender.
I mean, everybody you've put in front of them this year,
they've mowed down.

Speaker 11 (01:17:32):
I think this is a giant stage for A and M.
Obviously the A and M. The A and M victory
at Notre Dame was that, but it was so early
in the season and the fact that Miami that Notre
Dame had lost the first week, we weren't sure how
good Notre Dame was. They're showing us they're pretty good.
I think this is a great coming out party for

(01:17:53):
Marcel Reid. This defense has been unbelievable and we got
a kind of patched up offensive line. No running game
for l s U. They're going to play with a
freshman left tackle. I like A and M in this game,
and if Marcel Reid plays like he's been playing, I
think we're going to add him to the list of candidates,
which now include Diego, Fernando, Trinidad, and Marcel.

Speaker 4 (01:18:18):
That sounds like like a boy band. That isn't Caribbean.

Speaker 11 (01:18:22):
Isn't a boy band? I don't know exactly right.

Speaker 5 (01:18:29):
Isn't that Manudo? I believe that is are the four
guys that were in Menudo. If I'm not mistaken, all right,
what's your what's our Taco Time pick of the week here.

Speaker 11 (01:18:39):
So this one came to be by by way of
Dick Fain yesterday he reminded me that Toledo is a
favorite in Pullman this weekend. The Rockets are a good team,
and but they're not that rocket strength this year. They
have been a little bit porous by their own standards.

(01:19:00):
Jason Kandell, the quarter the coach there, I think, would
say this is not one of his best teams. And
they traveled to the Polouse and the Cougar's returned from
the road weary team that went on the road and
took Ole Miss to twenty four to twenty one loss
and lost to Virginia, a top twenty team twenty to twenty.

(01:19:20):
I think Washington State as a dog here is ridiculous.
I'm taking the Cougar.

Speaker 4 (01:19:25):
I think that's great pick man.

Speaker 5 (01:19:27):
I'm barely impressed with what Rodgers has done here turning
this thing around, because first couple of weeks I'm like.

Speaker 11 (01:19:32):
Oh, that's been that's been inspired football.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
I mean, holy smokes.

Speaker 11 (01:19:36):
And Toledo is not the great Toledo teams that we've
seen in the MAC.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
This is doable. I love this ex house.

Speaker 11 (01:19:45):
Kid to continue a trend to playing great on weekends.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
So give me the coch.

Speaker 5 (01:19:49):
All right, I'm just going to warn you right now,
if the Bruins beat the Hoosiers this weekend, your son
won't even accept your mail.

Speaker 11 (01:19:57):
More poems in the offing, More Susian, more Susian wisdom.

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
Aheaded his way.

Speaker 4 (01:20:05):
You know, I gave him a little Yoda.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
Too, do or not do? There is no.

Speaker 4 (01:20:11):
Try put forward your best son, And.

Speaker 11 (01:20:23):
If you look in the mirror, I'm looking a little
more Yoda ask every day.

Speaker 5 (01:20:28):
Well, all we gotta do if we want to remember
Rick new Heisl in his prime is look at Jerry
new Heisel, because it's the exact same person.

Speaker 4 (01:20:39):
All right, thank you, coach.

Speaker 11 (01:20:40):
We'll hope for better for him.

Speaker 4 (01:20:42):
We'll hope for.

Speaker 5 (01:20:44):
Rick new isil joining us right here on Chuck and
Buck in the Morning, of course, his segment every week,
usually on Tuesdays at nine, brought to you by Taco Time.
So all right, a lot of good college football this weekend.
And I'm going to go ahead and wrap up my
agenda here today by talking about the Mariners starting pitchers
on the other side and what's going to happen with them.

Speaker 4 (01:21:05):
In the off season.

Speaker 5 (01:21:06):
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Speaker 4 (01:21:14):
Oh what a couple of weeks. What a couple of weeks,
I tell you, yeah a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:21:19):
So we come to Friday. You know how we close
out the show. You know how we close out the week.
So let's do it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
I'm Ashley and this is the Booze News.

Speaker 4 (01:21:28):
Cheez cherious, crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:21:31):
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Speaker 4 (01:21:58):
Ben Holiday sounds like a whiskey maker from Missussurra.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
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Speaker 4 (01:22:04):
It is yes, right past my lips.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
Well, let's just say it. This week's Booze News is
way suckier than last week's.

Speaker 6 (01:22:11):
Oh yeah, last week we had hope, we had belief,
we had knots in our stomach and stress diarrhea, that
it was really great. This week, we've got an atmospheric
river to wash away our tears and that's it. Yeah,
we've got other sports, and yeah, those sports matter. There's
an emptiness in our hearts where the World Series was

(01:22:32):
supposed to be.

Speaker 4 (01:22:33):
There's a hole in our heart that could only be
filled by it, and that's the truth.

Speaker 6 (01:22:37):
Now we've got Game one of that stupid series tonight,
and I hope both teams lose, which apparently can't happen.

Speaker 4 (01:22:44):
To these This.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
Sucks it cuz, yes, it was an exciting ride.

Speaker 6 (01:22:52):
There were some spectacular moments, and we got to make
memories as Mariners fans, and all of those are amazing.
But the wound, it's still wide open and it is
a gaping hole of emotions.

Speaker 10 (01:23:03):
Hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
Thank goodness for booze. We drink when we're celebrating, and
we drink when we've fallen into a pit of despair.
So that's fun.

Speaker 4 (01:23:11):
Cheers, Thanks Ben Holiday.

Speaker 6 (01:23:14):
Thanks Ben Holiday. At least we have the Seahawks to
pick us up this weekend. Oh wait, bye week great timing.

Speaker 4 (01:23:22):
Yeah, we could have poured our emotions into football again.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:23:25):
Gosh.

Speaker 6 (01:23:26):
Well, the Craken are coming off a road win and
headed back home tonight, and that is exciting. It doesn't
seem like or it does seem like it's a different
feeling with this team under Lane Lambert, even though I
cannot put in my head that that's his actual real name. Yeah,
and every time I write it, then I have to
go Google it to make sure it's his real name.
And I didn't make it up in my head.

Speaker 4 (01:23:43):
I know what you're thinking. You think his name is
Count Dracula. And then when I think of.

Speaker 6 (01:23:47):
Lambert, I think of like Lambert, and I'm like, he's
not a sheepish lion.

Speaker 4 (01:23:51):
Oh, he's a vampire.

Speaker 5 (01:23:52):
He's the only vampire coaching a major professional sports team
here in America and Canada.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
And we've got that going for us.

Speaker 4 (01:23:58):
Yeah, which is great.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:24:00):
Yeah, me too. Time we're gonna be terrible during day games.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
I am a fan, Burt, I just made that up.

Speaker 4 (01:24:06):
Are you a fan?

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
So far, so far, so good.

Speaker 6 (01:24:09):
I'm excited to see what the Cracking can do this season.
Hopefully a playoff run that doesn't rip my heart from
my chest with one pitch.

Speaker 5 (01:24:18):
Yeah, I'm telling you what if George comes in, slaps
one from the blue line and beats us in the playoffs,
I give up.

Speaker 4 (01:24:27):
On all sports. That happens.

Speaker 6 (01:24:29):
The Husky's host the ferocious fighting the lion I tomorrow,
and I'm really hoping for a win at home.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
They need it.

Speaker 4 (01:24:36):
Yeah, yeah, we need it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
Yeah, coming off last week. Yeah, just get a solid
win in the rain. Give those fans that are gonna
tough it out.

Speaker 4 (01:24:43):
Look on behalf.

Speaker 5 (01:24:44):
With all my love for Washington, you know you can't
take the Illinois completely out of the boy.

Speaker 4 (01:24:50):
I'm sorry in advance that you're having to face such
a powerhouse. Yeah on Saturday, yep, I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
It is a tough test.

Speaker 5 (01:24:58):
Well, you're a favorite, though. Think about that accomplishment. That's
pretty incredible, right, Yeah, favorite against that jugger?

Speaker 4 (01:25:05):
Not how did that happen?

Speaker 6 (01:25:07):
The NBA at least distracted us from some of our
misery by unloading a massive scandal involving the actual mafia
on It's Yesterday, Like the actual Mafia. I don't want
to say it too loud in case they're listening. At
least we don't have to worry about it. Great, by
the way, guys are doing keep up the great one.

Speaker 4 (01:25:23):
Yeah, yeah, really killing it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
Really like what you're doing. Yeah, I like what you
said there. At least we don't have to worry about
anyone on our NBA team being involved.

Speaker 4 (01:25:31):
More despair. Ah, it's got a bucket loaded despair.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
So much despair.

Speaker 6 (01:25:40):
I'm done.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
Okay, I'm done.

Speaker 4 (01:25:43):
We got a hole in our buckets.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
What we got, dear Liza, we got a holy inner bucket,
dear Laza.

Speaker 4 (01:25:51):
All right, nicely done. Sorry about your despair.

Speaker 5 (01:25:55):
I know, I know, I know, but uh, you know what.
Let's go enjoy a weekend watching poring rain, watching softball
and other sports, and then we'll come back Monday and
better spirits.

Speaker 4 (01:26:08):
Okay, all right, good plan.

Speaker 5 (01:26:10):
Thank you, Thank you Ben, thank you inventing something that
helps us during these times he's trying times.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
And thank you Mafia for all your great work.

Speaker 4 (01:26:22):
All you really are staying on top of things.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
Yes you are all right.

Speaker 4 (01:26:28):
We'll talk to you on Monday.

Speaker 5 (01:26:29):
Coming up next, it's Christopher Kidd, also MJ and the
Midday Sports Radio ninety three point three KJR FM.

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