Best of Chuck & Buck 10-30

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
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school basketball stand What in the hell does that mean?

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Jumped any conclusions?

Speaker 2 (00:15):
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Speaker 3 (00:18):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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Speaker 2 (00:31):
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Speaker 3 (00:35):
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Speaker 3 (01:08):
Hey, good morning and welcome into the radio program. It
is Chuck Them Back in the Morning.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Sports Radio ninety three point three KJR FM. Great to
have you with us here on this Thursday. We've got
four hours of sports talk radio and other goofy stuff
playing for you during the course of your morning.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
So welcome aboard.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
You are most welcome into our show and into our
hearts and into our minds. Stay out of there, by.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
The way, you don't want to be there. Yeah, get
out of there.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
You're really messing with my stuff. Chuck Powell, Bucky Jacobson,
Ashley Ryan with you here on this Thursday morning.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Great to have you with us.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
It is Halloween eve, so all Hallow's Eve eve. Yeah,
and let me just on behalf of decent human beings everywhere.
I hope that you were chill, and you as well,
since you're going to be in charge of your children.
I would assume the next couple of days here as
they put on costumes and try to steal candy from

(02:09):
people with a smile on their face, they we hope
that you get the weather that we got yesterday and today,
because I hear there's an atmospheric river coming again on Friday.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Another one.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, that's when I heard a sad one. I'm done. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
I mean, it's one thing for sprinkle on Halloween. It's
another thing to get an atmospheric river dumped on you
while you put thought and time into a costume idea.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
I mean, come on, now, I don't mind an atmospheric
river in general, but like two weekends in a row
one when I've got to be outside all weekend for
softball and now Halloween.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
I have long had a problem with atmospheric rivers at
all times, and look this hurts personally. An atmospheric river
stole my mom from oh make sense? Yeah, they ran
off together during some really impressionable years for me, like
eleven twelve years old. I just didn't see my mom
for a couple of years because, I mean we kept

(03:01):
getting pictures of her and atmospheric river like celebrating all
the Disney World, you know. So I guess I gets
kept in contact with them, but I've just always had an.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Extra grind, makes sense, Yeah, I get it. Yeah, Yeah,
I mean I think you maybe should talk to the
folks at you know, the news stations, and you have
to bring it up. I mean, can you not just
call it heavy rain because your mom didn't cheat with
heavy rain?

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Right?

Speaker 3 (03:28):
We did just.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Invent weather terms, didn't we when we had to come
up with something scarier like rainstorms just not effective anymore.

Speaker 5 (03:35):
But that's what everybody thinks. But they've all actually been
around since like the seventies.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
I've never heard of an atmosphere.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
They used to call them pineapple express like that's basically
what they call them here.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Oh really, because it's.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
Usually something that he that because usually yeah, like it
comes from Hawaii and then it travels across the Pacific
Ocean and you get all this, yeah, and it's usually
like but I guess that might make it a little
bit warmer.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Anyway.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
It's been around for a long time because the cyclone
is the other one that everybody freaks out and it's like,
you just made it up.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
I think they did. They didn't.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
It's actually been around since like the seventies.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Well maybe they didn't used to use it because it
was too scary, and now television crews are.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Like, no, we've got to scare people. That's what gets
them to watch us.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Haboobs. I lived in Arizona.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
That's not a thing. Haboobs. Yeah, they just made up
a word. It's a storm. But it is scary, right, Yeah,
it can be.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
I mean, I mean I wouldn't go try to play
you know, volleyball in it, but yeah, but you know,
I mean I as far as like storms go, I
think it's the least scary one of the hurricane cyclone
you know, bomb cyclones. Family, I'd probably take a hoboob
over anything else. Just get some goggles and don't drive.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
I'm just pretty much hair my face in a haboob.
But I think it sounds like.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
The point is I want your kids to have a
good Halloween tomorrow, and it doesn't look like mother Nature
is going to cooperate. Mother Nature is gonna basically turn
out the lights on her porch so that nobody bothers.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Her, which is like, come on, yeah, yeah, I don't
think mother Nature gives a rip about Halloween. But then again,
if you live in Seattle, I mean, if you really
don't go trick or treating because it's dump and you
just don't do it as long, I think that most
people in there in there, uh, that they're sitting there
giving out candy. If I'm giving out candy, nobody comes

(05:26):
to our neighborhood. It's not a road you walk up
and down at night, and so I but I would
just be given like handfuls, like, hey, kids, you're not
gonna be out here as long as normal, Okay, you're
not gonna hit So here's handfuls of stuff. We're still
going ripping down their face. Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
I mean, here's Kate, like I work so hard on
that wrestling costume, you know, and now all of a
sudden she's got to watch it, like melt off of
her pride and joy, Yeah, right off his shoulders. So
I'm thinking about everybody. I'm trying to think about everybody right.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Now, considerate, I think.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
So.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, last year, I remember it poured too.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
I remember we went after we'd done all the most
of the trigger treating, we went to another neighborhood where
a bunch of our friends were all gathered around by
the fire pit, and the kids were all in the neighborhood. Oh,
the parents were having a blast. They're all dry under tents,
sitting by a fire pit. The kids all come back
just drenched from trick or treat them.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah. Well, I was just sitting there thinking last night
as I was walking around and I did a little
trick or treating last night. I went to Target to
get some socks, and apparently I had to pay for it.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
Oh you know, I said, a trick or treat it
seems weird in the spirit Barnes.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
And Noble and got a book and apparently I had
to pay for that too.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
They're not in the spirit of things treating wrong.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
But anyway, I was walking around like, man, this is
the night to go trigger treat. It's a perfect fall evening.
Uh And I guess we're gonna get another one of
those today. So but Friday atmospheric river time.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yeah. Ready, Yeah, I've done a rain on us. Put
on your rain jacket. Yeah. Luck. That's the part that
it's kind of one of those like my kids are
still going to put their costumes on, We're still going
to go out in it. But you can't just let
them just get soaked. Yeah, I mean, so you're gonna
have over the top of it. So what are you

(07:15):
dressed as? I'm dressed as a wrestler in an atmospheric river.
That's a good way to do it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (07:23):
Yeah, they can't hold umbrellas, candy bags.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
You still get to dress up. You just have to
in an atmospheric river.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
On the end of it.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
That's on the back of everything. And what are you?

Speaker 1 (07:34):
I'm a I'm a witch.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
I'm a zombie tennis player in a an atmospheric I'm
gonna tell my kids to.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Say, I guess that's true. It's just layered. It's just
a layered costume.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
That's all.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
I once went as Hannibal Lecter in a Snuggie.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
That was the outfit.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
See that was a costume. Yeah, I went as animal,
but I wore a Snuggie because they were really popular
at the time, which just dated myself. All right, Well,
we've got some sports to talk about today as well,
and man, it is crazy, Like I was just thinking
about this last night as we keep getting updates on
different injuries with the Seahawks Commanders game on Sunday. Looks

(08:14):
like Julian Love might not be playing this week against
the Commanders. Looks like Terry mclaarin won't be playing. Not
just looks like he's out for the game on Sunday night.
He just got back for them. Jaden Daniels was full
go at practice yesterday, so that's as strong an indication
that he's going to play Sunday as you can get

(08:34):
if he's full go at practice on a Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
But man, it just how.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Much this sport, this league, I mean it, You know,
Greg Bell talks about just all the seventeen car crashes
a year, but just the injuries, Like how much a
football player just lives with pain just all the time
and trying to figure out you know, is this something

(09:00):
I can play through or not? And so that crossed
my mind yesterday. But injury is gonna play a really
big part in Sunday's game. It looks like there's some
on both sides. But certainly the Seahawks coming off a
bye week with a health one hundred percent healthy quarterback
certainly are gonna have the advantage heading into Sunday night.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
From that standpoint, well, yeah, I mean, I think the
razor's edge of what it takes to win and then
win over the course of a full season, there's so
many little things. Now, obviously, you lose your quarterback and
you don't have a decent backup quarterback, you're going to
go backwards. Whether it's one step or two steps or
ten steps, who knows. But I mean, just still, you're

(09:42):
gonna lose guys. It's not a matter of if. There's
never been a time that an entire team has everyone
stay healthy for the entire season. Yeah, and even the
guys that go out there and play, I mean there's
tons of guys that have something that they're dealing with
in the training room that you don't even hear about
or see on the injury report. What I'm going to
tell them that, you know, really we don't need to.

(10:03):
You haven't missed any practice time. Go ahead and go
and yet it it can be the ebb and flow
between your season, you make in the playoffs and not.
I mean there's been quite a few times the Seahawks,
it seems in the last few years that they played
against a team when their quarterback was out, you know,
And so it's just you kind of have to that's
the I guess the that's the vision of you get

(10:25):
to see how good is your fifty three? Right, you
don't want to have to use all fifty three, but
how good are you is how big of a fall
off when you lose somebody that's important, like this defense,
for example, without a couple of their their big studs
in the backside have still performed very well against the pass,
They performed very well against the run. Even so, I mean,
I think that you got it kind of shows you

(10:47):
how good your team is when you can go without
a couple guys. But it's unfortunate because.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, you better have depth in the national football Yeah,
that's for sure. I Mean, a general manager's job is
not just to put a starting lineup out there on
the field.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
That's that's very clear.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
I mean, that's an obvious thing to say, but yeah,
we were just I was just yesterday just so excited
about seeing the secondary together really for the first time.
We got to see it for four plays before Nick
emn Wari got hurt in the opener, and now he's
been back, but we haven't seen love in Witherspoon for weeks,
and so the thought that all three of them were
going to be back, and now it doesn't look like

(11:22):
Julian Love at least it's not a sure thing. I
don't know if it's fifty to fifty. I don't know
where I would put it. He might not be returning
on Sunday, but you do look just you don't have
to go far as you're sitting here feeling sorry for yourself.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Because the Commanders in.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
The offseason had a holdout from Terry McLaurin, their top receiver.
Obviously there was some hesitance. Are you really a thirty
million dollars year receiver?

Speaker 3 (11:47):
For you are?

Speaker 1 (11:48):
But you are our best guy, and we are coming
off a good year, and we do have a young
quarterback that really clicked.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
With you a year ago.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Okay, we'll give you thirty two million dollars will.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
You play for that?

Speaker 1 (12:01):
And then he shows up and disrupts training, has disrupted
training camp with his holdout and hasn't been healthy since,
comes back for two quarters, makes two spectacular plays that
wets the Commander's whistle and find out, oh, he reaggravated
his quad injury and who knows how long he's going
to be out going forward. So the Commander is certainly
a lot more beat up than us and coming off

(12:24):
not coming off of a bye week, and Jade Daniels,
I don't think it's going to be one hundred percent,
but it looks like he's going to be good enough
to go.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
I think if you were to ask Commander fans if
you can only have one of them back, which one
would you say, They're gonna all say Jamie Daniels. But
that said, still Jadan Daniels would like to have Terry
McLaurin out there. I mean, he hasn't done a whole
heck of a lot, but you still have to give
him the attention that he deserves. So yeah, next man
up type of thing. I can't imagine what it would

(12:52):
be like, the wear and tear on your body being
an NFL guy, because it just seems like it's inevitable
that you're going to get dinged up.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
I mean, I watch a dominant piece of a football season.
I mean, there's a reason why you sit there on Thursdays.
You know, Greg doesn't get the injury report until Thursday,
and so sometimes we jump the gun and ask questions
because it's so important. There's the reason why we close
every Greg Bell Monday conversation with what's going on with injuries.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
I mean, it's just such a dominant piece of an
I mean, think about.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
How much time we dedicate to football, and then how
much time within our dedication to talking about football that
we have to spend on injuries.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
I mean it is as.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Big a I mean, I would say getting a quarterback
and getting a coach, Yeah, those are the two most
important things. Getting the right quarterback, getting the right head coach.
Third thing might be staying healthy.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
You know the conversation we have with Hugh about how
he's like, I don't think that special teams is in
a third of the game, right offense, defense, special teams.
I think that there's you know, six different kinds offense,
and you know how he breaks it down. Yeah, it's
like it's it's like in baseball the five. I think
that an injury where you at you know, the beginning
of the season, you can just say, okay, what's our

(14:04):
offensive like, what's our defense look like? How's our special teams?
How do we feel about it? But after one week
it should be how we feel about the offense, how
we feel about the defense? Maybe next how are we
feeling about our injuries? And then how are we feeling
about our special teams. It might be in that orga right,
you know, with one and two being the same offense
and defense. So because you're right, it is. It's a

(14:25):
game changing, possibly season changing thing. And it could be
if you just miss a guy for a couple of weeks,
it could be the difference between at the end of
the season you make in the playoffs and not making
the playoffs. You could be one of the best teams
come week seventeen, but if you dropped four games in
a row because you didn't have any of your secondary healthy,
now all of a sudden you're on the outside looking in.
Even though it's like you're sitting at home going, man,

(14:47):
we could have compete it against these guys if we
were healthy.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
And that's why it's such a bummer too, is because
that part is so based on luck, like just being
lucky enough to stay healthy to not get injured. I mean,
you look at how many injuries are just little fluke
things that happen of stepping the wrong way or you know,
being just in that wrong fraction of a second, and
that injury is a big damn deal. So the teams

(15:10):
that are able to actually stay healthy and be healthy
at the right times, that is an incredible amount of luck.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Well there's even even beyond that though, Like, yes, most
injuries are sort of timing, but then you also have
guys maybe prone to injury and they have a resume.
I mean, I think about Frank Gore. Frank Gore was
injured all the way through college. It's the reason why
he wasn't drafted higher. And then in the NFL he
plays twenty years at running back and shows up every

(15:37):
Sunday and plays. I mean, it's just crazy how that works.
And then Jane Daniels is a great example. Why why
were people what were if anything you were to worry
about in his game? What was it coming off of
a Heisman final season at LSU. Well he's so skinny,
but he didn't really have an injury history. Yeah, but
he's going to right, I mean, Lamar Jackson Baltimore was

(16:02):
confident mostly. I mean they kind of dragged that whole
contract extension thing out, trying to figure out like can
he really still you don't thy being that thin and
playing running the football that much, And they decided to
give him the money. And then what happened He started
having a few injuries. Is that injury this year? So,
I mean it's just such a huge part. I mean,

(16:24):
you are strategizing constantly for.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
It against it, knowing that.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
It's just going to be such a dominant part of
the sport. You wonder like, why do we love it
so much? Why do we love it so much that
we are watching all of these car recks take place?
And then on top of it, man, with so much
of our happiness is based on whether or not these
guys can avoid getting hurt in the car res Yeah,

(16:52):
but then it's the game, man, And I think Bucky
put it the right way. Maybe it's not a third offense,
a third defense, and a third special teams. Maybe it's
a third offense, a third defense, and a third injuries
and special teams. Really doesn't matter. For special teams, I
don't even care if our kicker and punter get hurt.

(17:13):
I'm kidding, well, what's on tap? Here we go?

Speaker 3 (17:18):
What's on tip? What's on tap?

Speaker 1 (17:23):
If you do sit there though, and you're like, I
can't get our quarterback hurt, I don't mind. If we're
gonna kicker hurt, probably means it's not a third of
the game.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
Yeah, if one's if one's a lot more important.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
All right, So Seattle at Washington Sunday Night Football twelfth
Man Roundtable coming your way today with Greg Bell and
Hugh Millin from eight to nine on the show. Thursday
Night Football Tonight, Baltimore will be at Miami and Lamar
Jackson will be making his return to the Ravens lineup.
And of course everybody's jumping back on the Ravens bandwagon

(17:59):
after they won last week and have Lamar coming back
this week, and I kind of am as well. I
certainly would not count them out going forward. A matter
of fact, if you held a gun to my head
right now, I'd pick the Ravens to win their division.
So we'll talk to Mike Sando about that coming up
at nine thirty today. A plus NFL trade deadline is
now just five days away, another topic we can bring

(18:22):
up with our NFL insider Mike Sando.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Huskies are on by this week.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
We were all ready to week number ten of the
college football season. My how time flies. Softie will join
us today. I'm not sure how much he's going to
talk baseball today, but I would imagine a little bit.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Maybe not as much, yeah, probably still some though.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Well we'll see, I mean, so we'll see seven oh
five today Softy joins us. It's a bye week for
the Huskies, but we'll still have our Thursdays with Softy.
College basketball season starts in four days. If you didn't
have enough on your plate as a sports fan, well
we're getting ready to add college basketball to it as well.
And here in you Dub there's pretty much a quiet

(19:05):
confidence in town that Danny Sprinkle, who killed it in
the transfer portal, might have pieced together a pretty good
team for this upcoming year. We'll ask to coach ourselves.
He's going to join us at nine o'clock this morning
to usher in the brand new college basketball season that
starts on Monday. Speaking of Monday, Sounders and Minnesota United

(19:28):
will play game number two of their three game series
to start the MLS Playoffs. Sounders have to win the
next two in order to advance, but the Mad Scientists
to usually Concox something pretty special this time of the year,
so I'm not going to doubt him. World Series. The
Blue Jays are up three games to two, so they

(19:48):
head back to Toronto, having to only win one of
two against the Los Angeles Dodgers to pull off the
World Series upset. Last night, behind Trey you Savage, they
dominate the Dodgers. Six to one is the final score.
We'll certainly find some time to talk about World Series
Game number five a little.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Bit later on in the program.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
And yes, it is the eve of Halloween, so get
your costumes together. Don't just wear a football jersey to
work tomorrow and say you're in costume.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah, that's not a costume. It's not you're not paidon Manning.
You're not dressed as Peyton Manning.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
If you want to dress a paid many wear the
jersey and then get like an extended forehead.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
You got to practice all his commercials and.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Say nothing but omaha, yeah, yeah, do some makeup like
give yourself like a higher forehead and sing nationwide is
on your side.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Yeah, you just got to do more than just put
on a number eighteen.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yea.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
You know jersey. Yeah, you got a baggy football pants,
like where your butt looks saggy in them too. Maybe
that's a maybe that's a good idea.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
And we wear a three quarter zip sweater underneath the jersey.
I mean you got, I mean, be creative. Gosh, I'm
tired of helping you, all right. Coming up next, one
of the big topics that we've had this week is
the college football coaching firings. So we dabbled into this
topic again yesterday with Rick Neuheisel, but there's more to discuss.

(21:11):
Something that Cam Cleveland told us yesterday really stuck with
me overnight. So we'll talk about the biggest story happening
in college football right now.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Next.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM, seven o'clock hour
here on this Thursday, Welcome in. It is chuck them
back in the morning Sports Radio ninety three.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Point three KJRFM.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
In a moment, we will hear from the legendary David
Softy Maller. Thursdays with Softy right here on KJR. But first,
your headlines brought to you by Frost Brewed Corse Light.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Choose Chill.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
The Toronto Blue Jays moved one game closer to World
Championship status. Yes, they defeated the Dodgers in a bit
of a blowout last night, six to one.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Ray Y Savage was wealthy.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
He was outstanding yesterday, striking out twelve batters in the game.
The Dodgers could not touch him. And suddenly Toronto gets
to go home to close out the World Series and
they'll have two cracks at it against the Los Angeles Dodgers.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Game six will.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Be played on Friday night, so a day off today.
Other news, Sounders will be an action against the Minnesota
United Monday.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
That will be game two of a three game series.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
The Sounders will have to win back to back matches
against Minnesota in order to advance. I'm sure the mad
scientists will cook something up. College basketball season is just
four days away. Trade deadline is just five days away.
Lamar Jackson expected to go tonight for the Ravens. He's
back on the field to take on the Miami Dolphins,

(22:52):
and of course, the Seahawks will be an action Sunday
Night against the Commanders.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Julian Love we thought was going to be playing in
this game. There's a chance he may not.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Terry McLaurin is definitely out for the Commanders and Jade
and Daniels was a full participant at practice yesterday for
the Commanders, And that's as strong an indication as any
you're going to get that he is going to play
Sunday Night for Washington.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
So we'll have to deal with that guy. Huskies are
on buy this week.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
I'm sure it's time to talk with David Softy Maller
about his beloved dogs.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
With something in his mouth. I have no idea what.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
That is, Okay, us aid.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Is Bucky there by the way, Oh yeah, okay, Bucky.
Do you have that problem with your kids that you
look at him and you have no idea what's in
their mouth? Or he just ingested or Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
My daughter likes to just like, for whatever reason, like
Carrie toys around her in her mouth, yeah, which is
fine as long as it's not a choking hazard. But
she likes to put even like like small things in
her mouth. I'm like, do you stop about those kids?

Speaker 1 (23:57):
They put things in their nose, They like can't stop themself.
They can't keep themselves from doing it.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
I want to start a rubber band down my nose,
and my mom had to call the doctor who lived
down the street to come over and take it out.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
A rubber band.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, all the way up my nose. My nose is huge.
I would see it.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
I could see being experimental, like what would happen if
I put this up my nose? But then once your
rush to the emergency room, you would think that that
would end. But there's some kids out there that can't
help themselves. They just keep putting stuff up their notes.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
That's a great topic, by the way, what what what
did you experiment with when you were a youth? You
know what? I'd rather talk about that than talk about
the World Series.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
To be honest with you, you can't get into it.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
I'm good, am I into the World Series? Yeah? What
do you think? Well?

Speaker 3 (24:47):
And I'm trying to set you up to go off.
I mean you brought it up.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
I want to go off. Yeah, I'm tired of going
off at seven o'clock in the morning. I'm tired, man,
I'm tired of being angry. I'm tired of being bummed out.
I'm tired of being bitter. I mean, Jackson's wife is
a is a psychologist or therapists, whatever the hell they
call it, And I need help. Man, this is like,
what is this now? Almost two weeks going on? This

(25:10):
coming Monday, ten days since Game seven? Is that what
it is?

Speaker 6 (25:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (25:16):
And I'm not even close to getting over it. Yeah,
and I'm afraid it's getting worse. Really, Am I the
only one here that feels that way? Or am I
just on like you know, idiot island by myself here?

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Well, I think Ashley's not capable of watching the World Series. Yeah,
I was hesitant for the first time in my life
to whether I was wondering whether I would last Friday.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Well, listen, man, if you're not watching the World Series
and you're wondering if you're into the World Series, then
humanity is doomed because you're the baseball guy.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
I watched a professional You're.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Like, I love baseball, and we gotta get over it
and we gotta move on, and don't deprive yourself of
the greatest stage for the greatest sport. If you're the
one that won't watch and you're a little miserable, then
we're all just left.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Well, I've watched, I have watched. I was reluctant on Friday.
I wasn't my heart wasn't in it, but I put
it on. Uh And then I did watch.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
The eighteen inning game.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, and well I watched them all so but I did.
I did really enjoy the eighteen inning game.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
I turned that on the bottom of the ninth just
to see if the Dodgers could win it because I
wasn't watching, and then just kept watching. I was like
Forrest Gump. I just kept going, you know, figured, I
come this far, Mayswell, keep going. Got just fifteenth inning,
figured I come this far, Mayswell, keep going. And thank god,
the Dodgers at least won that game. And I was,

(26:45):
you know, I was talking about like Bouja fans sitting
up in Canada two thirty in the morning, you know,
watching that thing and having to go to bed at
three o'clock after a loss, and was maybe as good
as it got for us as far as the shadenfreude.
And that's serious because the Dodgers, I mean, they look cooked,
don't you guys.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Think I wouldn't say they're cooked, but but yeah, I
would say, yeah, Toronto looks like they're gonna win the
World Series.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Toronto just looks like they have the recipe to win baseball,
which is it's not really new, it's just kind of
bringing back Oh, put the ball in play, that works, Bucky.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Let me ask you a question, then, why don't we
have that recipe?

Speaker 3 (27:26):
I think we're moving in that direction.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Brother, can't we have that recipe?

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Hey, just a little bit of therapy for you. I
would say one thing to try to help you get
over is think about what you have and not what
you don't have, because you're right, it.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Sucks about that. You got the game, guy, You know what,
Paul Moyer, get over.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
It you No, No, I'm not saying to get over it.
I'm not saying to get over it. It hurts. I'm
right there with you. I just I'm just looking forward
to the future because that's the only thing we have.
That past is over. I can't change it.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Now.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
We have we have we have both. We have the future,
and we have the misery of history. And I'm embracing that.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Okay, well you do you, yeah, you do you?

Speaker 2 (28:08):
This for me, this is cathartic and I appreciate you
guys giving me a chance to vent a little bit
here on the on the radio program. Yeah, I mean
it was the biggest gut punch I think I've ever
taken as a sports fan, and you know, even bigger
than Super Bowl forty nine. And I know people will
call or they'll tax so they'll tweet and say, you're
how could you think that football is play more popular

(28:29):
than baseball? Hey, that's not the point. This isn't about
comparing sport to sport and the popularity of one sport
to the other. When you're waiting fifty years for something
and you're eight outs away, I mean, you guys get
the point. You don't need me to rehash everything.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
But it is so hard to win a World Series.
I mean, oh, because it's not like other sports. Other
sports more more often I'm not gonna say always, but
more often you got the best team, you're gonna win.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
But that doesn't really happen.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
So even if you do craft over one hundred and
sixty two games, sure, best season, and even if you
do dominate in the first two rounds of the playoffs,
it doesn't mean you won't show up in the World
Series or the ALCS and just completely lay an eggainst one.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Of the Dodgers right now, Yeah, exactly. Hell, they're spending
four million dollars. What are the Braves of the nineties,
you know, I mean they fell short a ton. You know,
they they got there and they won one, but they
probably should have won more than one. Dodgers, you know,
they've been to how many World Series?

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Now?

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Is this for Dave Roberts's at five or six World
Series for Roberts whatever it is now, I don't know.
Some folks would argue they've fallen even a little bit short.
I mean, you're totally right now. You're going back to
the beginning and we can have fun and dominate the
regular season and always know, right Bucky, at the end
of the road, there's that five game sample or that
seven game sample, or anything can happen, and it doesn't

(29:49):
matter what you did in July, or it doesn't matter
what you did in September. Anybody can get you. Anybody
can step up and bite you in that seven game series.
And that's what stinks about this year is that you're right,
it's the hard. It feels like the hardest thing to
do in a lot of ways in sports. I used
to think winning a college football national title was the

(30:10):
hardest thing to do in sports. I think this is harder.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
I think Toronto's good, but I think the Dodgers are better.
And I think we're better than the Toronto Blue Jays.
But look who's getting ready to proverbially cut down the nets.
It's damn Toronto forgot.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Well, let's hope the Dodgers can wake the hell up.
I mean, my god, there I'm trying to figure out
whose offense has been worse, the Dodgers or this Wisconsin team,
the Huskies playing next Saturday. How about that for a transition.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, well, let me.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Ask you in your current state, I mean, a win
over Illinois puts you at six and two and you
can see a path to the tournament at this point,
do you allow yourself to think about that? Or is
your pain so great right now that you're not going
to set yourself up for any expectation.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
This was This was a Husky football team in twenty
twenty two that was six and two and they were unranked,
and they finished the year eighth in the country. Remember
that because they beat Oregon State they were ranked. They
beat Oregon they were ranked, and then they beat Texas
in the Alamo Bile and they finished in the top ten.
So I think the point is you can make a
significant jump from the end of October to the end

(31:18):
of the year. Hell Ohio State when they won the
title in twenty fourteen, first year of the CFP, I
think they were like fifteenth in America when the initial
rankings came out and they won the championship. Man, So yeah,
you can, you can make a huge jump. I mean,
the problem for Washington is they don't have really a
lot of opportunities left to prove themselves. They only really

(31:38):
have won and we know who that's against Bucky, don't
we in late November Atluski Stadium. So you got Purdue,
you got UCLA, you got Wisconsin. Three let's face it,
terrible football teams. I mean, guys, Wisconsin is averaging their
last seven games, They're averaging six point eight points per
game scored, not allowed, scored. They're like three and eight

(31:59):
in their last it at home. They want fickles head
on a freaking spike in Madison. I mean, it's unbelievable
how bad things have gotten out there. So they should
win these next three. They should be nine and two
and then Bucky and I can tell each other how
stupid we are before they ordon get.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
I kind I mean, I kind of am looking forward
to that, but I kinda also wouldn't mind you guys
dropping one before because I don't want all that on.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Your Yeah, there's a part of you that's a little
nervous though.

Speaker 7 (32:25):
No.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yeah, normally I don't get very over the top.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
With it, but here you bring them heavily in the
back a little bit. It okay.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
On that note, then I hope you guys do win
the next three so that there's more on the more
on the plate for it.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Well, there'd be way more pressure on you guys than
there would be on U DUB. I mean, you Dub
goes nine and two, and they're gonna be people. Let's
face it.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
There, you guys do ten and two and you're in
the playoffs, you'll be doing the same thing. You just
will know you're not going to win.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
I don't think it's a confirmed thing for sure that
they'd be in the playoff. Would only have one win
at that point over a ranked team, and that'd be
the Oregon Ducks unless Illinois and Ella together, Yeah, climb back. Well,
they're not ranked now, which is just the stupidity of
the eight people, which I've been yelling about the entire year.
I am so done with the eight people, guys, just
done forget it. I mean, Notre Dame where they're ranked

(33:19):
because of where they started, Texas where they're ranked because
of where they started. I mean, I was probably got even,
you know, a bigger complaint than you, Dub. I mean,
they're they're six and two and they lost to Indiana
by like three points. I mean, what the hell? And
they can't get into the top twenty five. So yeah,
they go nine and two, there's gonna be chatter, you
know about Dub making it in. They're still gonna need
some help, there's no question about that. But I would

(33:40):
I would. I would love for that Oregon game to
to mean a little something something and have have people
like Bucky just squirming around.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
My friend, You'll be swirming.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
You're already squishy over there, Yeah, yeah, heard you, squishing
in your pants.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Don't normally talk with ultra confidence in this topic because
I just think it's bad, mo Joe, but I am
going to right now.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Softy is well, it's Thursdays with Softy here on Chuck
and Buck in the mornings. You know, I saw your partner,
radio partner, Dick Fane, and he tweeted out something about, well,
he tweeted out something about like twenty twenty seven national champs.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Okay, and what sport I'm not in? The Huskies?

Speaker 1 (34:25):
The Huskies twenty twenty seven. Yeah, college football. And my
thought was he's reading in that Demon Williams is going
to be our senior quarterback and you know, maybe you've
already won a Heisman, and so I'm not bringing it
up to you to critique whether or not this is
a national champion. I'm bringing it up then this era

(34:45):
of transfer portal and you know, guys being able to
zip ahead to the National Football League when they feel
their stock is right. Do you see Demon Williams being
here for four years as the Huskies quarterback?

Speaker 2 (34:57):
If I had to bet something that made me nervous,
I'd say no. I'd say no, but I wouldn't be surprised.
That's a lame answer. I know that, Chuck. Here's the deal, man.
I just think that people that run around dismissing anything,
I don't understand that attitude whatsoever. I think if you're
a college football fan, if you're a Husky fan, Oh,

(35:18):
Demon's not going anywhere. Jed's not going anywhere. That's ridiculous,
totally ridiculous to just dismiss that. I mean, you may
be right that Jed's going to be here next year,
you may be right that Demon's going to be here
in two years from now, but now more than ever,
just completely dismissing the idea that Jedfish could go take
another job and take Demon Williams with him. Do I

(35:40):
think Demon's gonna leave early for the NFL? I mean,
I think that's gonna be harder for him because of
his stature, right, I mean, five ten, one hundred and
ninety pound quarterback leaving early for the NFL. He would
have to be like Kyler Murray's special honestly to take
off and be able to do something like that. And
I don't think he's there yet. He's got a chance
to be there, but he's not there yet. But Jetfish

(36:02):
leaving you Dub and taking off and coaching somewhere else
next year or the year after that, and bringing Demon
Williams with him, To just dismiss the idea of that happening,
I think is pure stupidity, I mean it's ignorance to
just dismiss something like that. I mean, look at all
the jobs that are opening college football, and look at
all the quality candidates out there. Man, I mean, there
is an absolute dearth of candidates out there. We're talking

(36:23):
about bringing guys like ed Orgeron back off the shelf
to take some of these college football coaching jobs, talking
about you know, guys like Steve Sarkisian leaving college and
going back to the NFL because of just the lack
of quality candidates even at that level. It's unbelievable. Man, Like,
nobody wants to be president, nobody wants to be a
football coach where they out of all these people go,
I don't understand. So I just think again, dismissing any

(36:47):
of that talk to me, is totally naive, absolutely naive.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Yeah, well, I'm with you. I think dismissing it is silly,
especially the coaching part of it. I mean, there's so
much time before demon Williams in the NFL still for
sure have another year to find out if he's going
to be that special. But yeah, I mean is there concern.
I mean it's I mean, how how what is your
heat check as far as you're concerned about fish leaving
for that as a fifty to fifty deal, yeah, right now.

(37:12):
I mean it could go either way, you know.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
I mean, look, man, I've told the story on the air,
and I think you guys already know when Troy Dannon
tried to have me and Dick thrown out of his
press conference. You guys are wear that that's you. Okay.
So this is this is a guy that's getting introduced
and we're doing the midday show that day, and we're
sitting there on the air and we're talking about his resume.
It's like, man, the guy's moved around a lot. He's
been at twelve spots in whatever years, and Dan and

(37:36):
overheard it and got pissed off and sent one of
his lackeys over to kick us out, which would have
been a horrible look for you, dub. And So if
I'm if I was concerned about it on that day,
I'm certainly concerned about it now with the fact that
he's six and two and having a little bit of success.
And I think ads and presidents are smart enough to
look at everything in context, right, Like, you know, a

(37:57):
guy goes to Vanderbilt and he wins eight games, like
going to Alabama and winning forty you know, I mean,
look at what he's done. He's rebuilt the offensive line
to a point where they were getting recognition from the
Joe Moore Award Committee halfway through the year before Carver
and John Mills got banged up. He's got he's done
great in the portal. He's got maybe the best defensive
back trio or excuse me, twosome in the country, if

(38:19):
not at least the Big ten. He's got a star
in the making, and Demon Williams. He's got a star
in Joanah Coleman. He may have a number one you
first round draft pick, and Denzel Boston. So I think
he's done great in context. I mean, look at what
he took over, you know, the garbage dump. I mean,
this thing was a mess when Jedfish took it over.
So I think he's done great in context. And then
you couple that with all the coaching jobs are open

(38:42):
and the quality of jobs that are open, the big
name jobs that are open. I think, Bucky, it's fifty
to fifty right now.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Yeah, wow, all right, what's your go to Halloween movie?

Speaker 2 (38:54):
My go to Halloween movie? You know, I really don't
have one. I'm not a big horror movie guy, to
be honest with you, you know, I mean, can I
just name, like my favorite corny is how horror movie
of all time? Sure? You ever see Microwave Massacre?

Speaker 3 (39:10):
No? No, I'm not one.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Of these d level movies from the seventies where it's
they're still corny. You're kind of laughing at it. You know,
blood's squirting out of a guy's neck and it's clearly
like ketchup right, Okay, I got really a big Halloween
movie guy.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Okay, well I just thought of it asked the season,
you know.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
I mean, if you're asking me what my favorite scary
movie is, I mean probably that one. But the movie
that scared the crap out of me the most was
called The People Under the Stairs.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Okay, you remember that one? Okay, I know of it.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
I know of it.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Yeah, broke me.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Well, you already sound a little better than you did.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
At the beginning of this.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Thank you, so hopefully our therapy session helped little.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Just to announce, I'm pissed off again when I see
something crawl across my screen from some jackass Blue Jay
fan sneaking his way into my Twitter mentions. But by
the way, these people there's up human. Yeah, real they are.
I mean they like mobilize and they go after people
like us. I see more people on my timeline that
don't follow me that are Blue Jay fans than any
other sport, even the Ducks. By the way, Bucky, and

(40:12):
I will tell you this real quick. I know we
have to run, Bucky. I'll give a Oregon fans credit
for one thing. When they talk smack and they talk
mess on social media, at least they have the guts
to show their name and show their face. Toronto Blue
Jay fans biggest group of keyboard warrior cowards I've ever
seen on social media in my life, not even close.
So congratulations they actually made Duck fans look good.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Oh wow, I'll win, all right, Thanks man. Appreciate you guys.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Softy joining us every Thursday here on the Chucking Buck Factor.
Fiction coming your way next Bucky's Pick. Today we will
also talk about the World Series Game number five. Sports
Radio ninety three point three kh A r f M.

(41:00):
It's eight o'clock here on a third day, and it
is time for our twelfth Man roundtable. We have assembled
the best out there to talk Seahawks football. We do
it every single week. Hugh Millan, our QB one former
NFL quarterback. Don't know if you knew that about him, buggy,
h you mean like the National Football the National Football,
highest level, highest level QB.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Yeah, yeah, listen, I'm gonna start listening.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
I don't think he studies much anymore, but at at
the time, Yeah, he really really did.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
He just wings it.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
And then we got our Seahawks insider Greg Bell over
twenty years following the Seattle Seahawks, seems to know a
thing or.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
Two about Sewks. He's been doing it that long. Yeah, yeah,
I'm gonna start listening to him. To an army like
dedication to his craft. Who would have thought, Yeah.

Speaker 8 (41:45):
I know, so we're pretty you listen long enough, I'll
prove you wrong. Just keep listening. I'll step on enough
rikes to change your mind. All right, Well, let's do
this thing. A lot to catch up on. We're coming
off of a bye week.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
We spent last week's roundtable sort of discussing how we
feel about the team. But now this is about looking
forward to the second half of the season. Should have
a healthier roster, but the same can't be said for
the Washington commanders on Sunday, Greg, I just update your
reaction to the news about Terry McLaurin being out and

(42:27):
Jade and Daniels practicing yesterday and looking like he's on
track to play Sunday night against the Hawks.

Speaker 6 (42:35):
Well, the Seahawks have been preparing all week that Daniels
was going to play. That was the assumption when he
missed the Monday night game against Kansas City. McLaren's that
was news to McDonald yesterday when we told him during
our time talking with him before practice he re injured
his leg in the Kansas City game Monday night, so
he won't play it. Washington's missing both at starting defensive ends.

(42:56):
It's missing it's starting safety. They are not at all
what they were at the NFC Title Game last year Philadelphia.
They don't have a running game. Austin Eckler was supposed
to be a big part of their offense and he's
on injured reserve. Offensive linemen on injured reserve. Every team
has injuries, yes, but Washington has not responded to it well.

(43:18):
Their offense only scored seven points even though they drove
into Chiefs territory Monday night, five of their eight drives
were in Kansas City's end of the field, and they
only got seven points with Marcus Mariota as the quarterback.
Suffice to say, Jane Daniels playing is a big, big
deal in this game. If he wasn't playing, it would
be swinging into Seattle defense's favor. Daniels another run pass

(43:44):
threat who last year as a rookie was just really
almost beyond his well, he was beyond his years of
reading defenses and reacting to what was seeing in front
of him. A lot of talk about the virtual reality
training he's had since way back at LSU and how
it's got him defenses. But if you don't have the
Rookie of the Year Heisman Trophy winner who got you

(44:05):
the NFC title game at full strength, that's in Seattle's
favor for sure. So health is as always an NFL,
especially in October November, heals the factor in this game,
for sure.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Big factor. We'll get to some of the Seahawks news
here in a moment as well, but before we get
off the topic of Jaydon Daniels, let's ask our QB
one what a year he had. Is a rookie hasn't
quite worked as well here in his sophomore campaign. What
do you see in Jaden Daniels Hugh that keeps defensive
coordinators up at night.

Speaker 8 (44:34):
Well, he's a beautiful athlete and maybe maybe second to
Lamar Jackson in terms of speed and long long strikeability
from the quarterback position. I think he has a very
fluid passing motion, much much better than Lamar Jackson's. To
my eye, I think he has more velocity. I think

(44:54):
it's just more effortless. But you know, I was I
think there's a really important h thought that I have
about the commanders that I'll try and share quickly. So
I'm on this thirty third team that think tank and
we zoom every week. And there's a guy named Mike
Giddings who is the president of Pro Scout. They consult

(45:15):
to the NFL. They don't have websites for us to jump,
they can sell to the NFL. And he picked it
up from his dad, who they like was they were
hired by Paul Brown and Don Shulin what have you.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
And as as.

Speaker 8 (45:32):
As it was stated, they have like actuarial tables. They
go so far back and they have this when they
advise teams He says, you want to be a playoff team,
you have to be below twenty strikes, and strikes are
generally acquired by aging players declining players x number of injuries. Well,

(45:52):
the Seahawks had seventeen strikes, so they were in good
in good position. He had the Commanders as a declining team.
You might have thought, hey, they're on the rise with
Jane Daniels. He had the Commanders as a declining team.
They had forty four strikes, wow, entering the season. And
you know it's not just the defense Von Viller, you
know Bobby Wagner, but you know all the targets. Zach

(46:15):
Ertz is thirty four years old, Chris Moore is thirty
two years old, Terry McLaurin is thirty, he's injured. Austin
Eckler is thirty. So this commander's philosophically, they have said, hey,
we're all in now and there, and they've acquired a
lot of veterans. It makes sense to some people, but
a guy that has been advising NFL teams for literally

(46:37):
sixty years in a family business.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
They say, whoao, WHOA. That is the wrong formula for success.

Speaker 8 (46:45):
And you know, now I'm kind of wishing that I
had taken it to Vegas because he called this stuff
back on the summer.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
I think it's there's a lesson.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
There, so there's some legitimacy. This isn't just the slow
start that they're off to, you know, that might be
representative of the actual team that they are.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
Well.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
I mean, Jade Daniel is going to be an issue.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
But I know a day.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Ago, Greg, I'm on the airwaves jumping up and down
with excitement about seeing Spoon and Love and Emon war
he finally together in the same secondary. Is that gonna
happen or not?

Speaker 3 (47:21):
Sit down, Chuck, It's not gonna happen. Ah, you can't
jump up and down.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
I was, yeah.

Speaker 6 (47:30):
Jolaine Love had a setback, is what McDonald termed it,
in his return from his hamstring injury. I saw him
running around in cleats on Monday and the practice they
had and apparently the setback was then because he didn't
practice yesterday and McDonald said injured reserve is under consideration
for him. They still even with Witherspoon coming back. He
did practice Fool yesterday for the first time since Week four.

(47:53):
Even with Witherspoon coming back, still on Sunday night. With
bub being out, they are not going to be whole
in the secondary, which they have not been since the
fifth player of the year when Nick Emon Worry got hurt.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
So we're going to see more at.

Speaker 6 (48:06):
Tai Okada, who at the beginning of the season when
he had they o'catta has had an interesting season of
just growing within the last month and a half. I
wrote a story in the News Tribune this morning about
him and how he's representative of the entire defense playing
not at all. How Mike McDonald planned for this year Ocatta.
At the beginning of the season, when Emon Worriy went

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out the game won. Mike McDonald had a plan of
using big nickel with a safety to combat the San
Francisco run game, and when Emon Worriy went out, he
tried to put o'cada into that role, and the forty
nine ers picked on him immediately. We got a first
down with Kittle, They got a touchdown with Kittle on
the third play, and then they tried McDonald tried blitzing
o'cada like he would have even Worry, and Ocatta was

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at five eleven, two hundred pounds just running in the
lineman getting swallowed in effect eventually got benched in the
middle of that game, and the Seahawks went more to
what they always had done last year with Witherspoon, which
is go a corner to nickel, not big nickel, regular
conventional nickel with Witherspoon inside. Well, then Witherspoon got hurt
late in that game running into Josh Job on Job's interception,

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and ever since then they've been shucking and jiving at
nickel and extra safety until even Worri came back a
couple of weeks ago. In the meantime, Okata has gone
from a big role of a failed nickel to a
starting safety because of Julian Love's injury, and in that
starting safety role he's excelled. His blitzes against Houston got

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home for a sack and a half. He hadn't had
a sack in his career in three years last year
week he had the sack and a half. He had
the great play in the end zone tipping the third
down pass as part of that goal line stand when
it was a two score game with five minutes left.
He is part of McDonald's not going a script for
this defense as well as they're playing number one in
the NFL against the run, seventh in scoring defense. They

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are not playing how McDonald wanted to They are night
he probably knows these numbers. Twenty one percent in sub
packages on defense, which is exactly how McDonald intended to
play with Emon Worry and the Gang together, that's number
one in the league. They are seventeen percent in blitz rate,
that's the third lowest in the league. And that is
not at all how he was supposed to play, he said.

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McDonald said yesterday, frankly, we had detoured pretty significantly from
how I planned to play schematically this year because of
the injuries. And I said, is pressure rate one of
those detours? He said, yes, he was gonna blitz fifty
percent of the time with Emon Worry and Witherspoon. He's
in seventeen percent because he hasn't had those two guys
for eight of the game so far this season. So

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they're winning not much like on offense. This team is
winning on defense, not how they were designed to be
this year. We'll see if Witherspoon comes back increases the
blitz rate a little bit. It's a little dicey proposition
to blitz Jalen Daniels posed to some other quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
They're faced all.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Right, So Hugh loves not coming back, but at least
Spoon is What does that mean in your opinion of
the secondary?

Speaker 8 (51:01):
Well, I'm very intrigued to see how this plays out
because if you go back Witherspoon came out of Illinois,
as you know, at the combine was one hundred and
eighty one pounds. Look, he throws his body around, You
love that about him. But at Illinois he played in
the slot or in the box, you know where all

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the big bodies are playing hardball. He was in there
less than seventeen percent, sixteen point eight percent of his snaps.
But now as a Seahawk last year he was at
sixty five percent in the box. And it just it
begs the question, Hey, yeah, he's a great nickel player,

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but right now he's only played two games this year,
So is it more wise to put him outside at corner?
And then emon worry is going to be your nickel?

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Right?

Speaker 8 (51:55):
And so now how much dime they played the Seahawks
right now just under eighty eight percent. They're number one
in the NFL in terms of using nickel five dbs
their dime use at three and a half percent is
twentieth and that's where you get to the numbers. Greg
just sided. So they may up their use of dime,

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which would put Witherspoon in an overhang position down in
the box and Emon worry on the other side of that.
But I think that there's gonna be a substantial move
to the outside by Witherspoon.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
That's what I would do.

Speaker 8 (52:35):
You know, given that you have Emon worry, given the
nickel numbers, and that's been dictated by by by health concerns.
But I think there's a big philosophical discussion you had,
You had Emon worry, go to the combine at sixty
three and exactly two hundred twenty pounds versus as I mentioned,
one hundred and eighty one.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
You got to you.

Speaker 8 (52:56):
Got two guys, who are you're thinking about playing nickel
one is thirty nine pounds heavier. Not factors in my opinion.
And you know, we're we're talking about Jayden Daniels being
banged up skinny guy. We're talking about Witherspoon, Witherspoon getting
banged up skinny guy. Like this is the thing. And
so I think that Seattle should address it in that way,

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and we.

Speaker 6 (53:17):
Talked about this earlier this week, Chuck. That's exactly the
decision they're going through this week. And because even Worry
has been so good at Nickel, I can't see them
moving them out of that spot. He's going to play
ninety plus percent of the snaps and it's going to
be inside against the run of the Nickel. If they're
doing what Hugh's saying they should do and put Witherspoon outside,
somebody's got to go, and that to me is Greek Wolan.

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So Wolan may get benched, as he was almost bench
before Witherspoon got hurt in week two. He probably would
not have started that Pittsburgh game if Witherspoon had not
missed it.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
But now they may be.

Speaker 6 (53:52):
Benched him, and it's because of Nick even Warrey's emergents
inside as Nickel, he's playing a lot closer to line
of scrimmage, and he did it off Carolina. He talked
to me yesterday about how that has been an adjustment
for him. The action happening quicker, the block's on any
more quickly, But with everything else McDonald and the coaches
have thrown at him, he's past it.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
I'm with you.

Speaker 6 (54:12):
I put Mitherspoon outside where he's a natural corner, and
put just stick Eman Woorry in and played ninety percent nickel.

Speaker 8 (54:21):
And I think an important part of that is that
Emon Warry. I've been very keen to watch when they
play man to man, who is Seattle willing to match
him up against? And I've seen the willing to put
those little slot receivers, you know, you know, oftentimes the
shift of your guys are in the slot where he is.
He's you know, he's a nickel Sam. He he's basically
a Sam linebacker, which is a strong outside linebacker, you know,

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in the in the form of a person who's a safety.
So that makes him a nickel Sam in man to man.
If he has to cover a little guy, then if
that's a problem, you're gonna expose it and you can't
play man to man, you can't put him on, and
then that reveals theverge and have but they have been willing.
Now he in some cases he's not as quick in

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and out of his break, but he's quicker than I
thought he would be, and the length and his catchup
speed allows him to play man and man against those
in a quick note on on a Kata because we
were talking about him, Greg, You remember when you guys
were handicapping who's going to make the roster, was Jerrick
Reid or somebody other than Tylecotta. He had that incredible

(55:26):
interception in the last game in the preseason, that one
handed interception against the Packers that if it was Larry
Fitzgerald running down the millfield on a post, you just said,
that's a Sports Center Top ten play. It wasn't so
much that play that got our attention the next series,
on a dual run where the running back went to

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the backside in a lot of space, Okata came from
the back end and he just came up like a
meteor and just chopped down whoever the running back was.
And I go, WHOA, that is probably going to impress
the Seak coaching staff more than the interception. I think
he made a late run to make this team. Kind

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of a little spotty the first, you know, regular season game,
but he's improved in his performance. So he's a guy
we need to talk about until Julia in Love gets
his hamstring straight round. But I think it's been an
interesting story for him in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 6 (56:23):
He's a guy who was on and off the practice
squad in twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four from Montana State.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
He's in his third year.

Speaker 6 (56:30):
He's another guy McDonald has put up in front of
the team and say, you practice well, you study and
know the game plan you play.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Josh Job was like that last year.

Speaker 6 (56:40):
They have bettered themselves with examples of that across the
two years that McDonald has been here, and that resonates
in the locker room. If a guy who's been on
the practice squad and not even on it the whole seasons,
on and off of it for two years can be
a starter and accept.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Oh boy, got freeze from Greg. I got a freeze
from Greg. All right, we'll try to get Greg going again.

Speaker 8 (57:04):
Go ahead here, Yeah, I can pick up on on uh.
Greg is right to mention Okada and Josh Job in
the same category in the sense of of how you
how you approach the game as a professional and you
come on and you can impress. I do think there's
a distinction to be made in terms of of their

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skill set. Like Tyle Katta strikes me as an overchiever,
like you are, You're You're smallest. You don't, you don't,
you don't run great, what have you? The only way
you're gonna make it is if you're smart enough to
be in the right spot and tough. But but there's there,
there's a limited toolbox. Josh Job, on the other hand,
out of Alabama was a top self recruit and you

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look at his body style, He's run all the measurables
that you Josh Job that that's not an overachiever. That's
a guy that that likely you know. And Carl Scott
was his is the current defensive secondary coach and defensive
past coordinator he was at Alabama.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
Carlscott is a tremendous coach.

Speaker 8 (58:12):
There's a reason Josh Job is playing well that goes
beyond just overachieving.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
He's got a toolbox that is be fitting.

Speaker 8 (58:20):
An NFL starter in a manner that in my mind, Greg,
if you're back, is different than Ocada, who I think
is an overachievement.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
The parallel is that.

Speaker 6 (58:31):
Josh Job came in midstream at the end of the
training camp last year after the Eagles waived him and
was not in their plans, and neither was Tyle Cotter
for this season. But You're right. Job is the reason
of large reason why Witherspon played sixty plus percent of
the snaps. You talked about it nickel last year, because
I didn't want to take Job off the field. He
eventually became a starter as the third corner. They love

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Joe McDonald loves Job. He loves how he tackles, he
loves how he plays the ball in the air. I
think that's why Rick Willing if they stick Emon Worry
in the middle and keep him a nickel and they
put Witherspoon out against Washington Sunday night, that they will
play less of Greek Willing unless they go dime and
then they could keep all of them on the field.

(59:12):
But then you only have one linebacker, it would be
Ernest Jones, and you'd be taking Drake Thomas off the field.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
And Drake Thomas has had a good season.

Speaker 6 (59:18):
Another unexpected guy who's earned his playing time.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Greg Bell, Hugh Millen with us here twelve man roundtable.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
It's interesting here.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
We're going to get into the offense, the return of
Robby Hoots in our next segment. But you brought up
skinny guys a little bit earlier. We were talking about
the injuries being a big part of this game, like
they are every single week, and how much has to
go into keeping.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
Guys healthy and.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Scouting four guys that you think will be healthy at
the next level. Maybe have to have warning flags around
skinny guys, and Bucky challenged a little bit of your Matthew.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you sometimes will go the
typical thing is a third offense, a third defense, a
third special teams. And then you say, well, it's actually
more like, you know, how do you pass offensively and
run offensively? I thought that was a great point, but well,
I'm just wondering if it's like, okay, still to your point,

(01:00:17):
I mean, how do you pass, how do you run?
How do you stop the run? How do you stop
the pass? How do you keep guys healthy? Shouldn't that
be part of the equation you It feels like it's
a third.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
It feels like it's everybody as valuable you as offense
and defense is how well you keep people?

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Sure?

Speaker 8 (01:00:34):
Sure, well we can have cohesion on this in the
following way. And first of all, I had credit Don
James who said that it's offense, defensive, special teams are
all a third. I respectfully because I respect Don James
more than any man I've ever known in my life. Sorry, Dad,
you may be listening from up there, but it's not

(01:00:54):
the truth. Yes, but no, I don't know. You keep
working at it, But I think it's it's a special teams.
I think is more like twenty percent. I think how
you've run it, how you throw it, how you the run,
how you defend the past. I think I think they're

(01:01:15):
all about twenty percent of the game. Where injuries, I
don't think that they've become a separate category. I think
that how you are, let's say, running the ball, if
you take on injuries, now all of a sudden, that
twenty percent is still twenty percent. You're just not going
to be as good at it because of the injuries.
So we can agree that injuries are going to take
a substantial portion. I just think it eats into your

(01:01:39):
your your quote, your calculus in each of those phases.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
That makes sense, Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
I guess that's my way of saying that athletic trainers
and strength coaches are more important than kickers and punters.
Another thing that we want to break down as we
are just four days away from the start of the
college basketball season, and the Washington Huskies have a lot
of new faces taken the court under second year head
coach Danny Sprinkle this year, and so joining us here

(01:02:07):
on our radio program, Coach Sprinkle is with us.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
How you doing, coach doing great?

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
How are you guys doing? We are terrific.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
By the way, I got a great Halloween costume idea
for you around the office. Jetfish those jetfish for Halloween.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Danny, I'm sure you do.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
I'm sure you do.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:02:27):
No, it's that time of year and that means his
basketball season.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
That's the best thing about it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Well, let's talk about your team. Obviously, last year you
coined as unacceptable a thirteen and eighteen record, four and
sixteen in conference play. Even though I think a lot
of Husky fans were perfectly willing to let you get
your legs underneath you as first year head coach, you just.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
Were adamant right here on our radio.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
Waves that that's just not going to be Washington basketball.
We got to get better and get better immediately. So
what is the big lesson you learn from year number
one and tried to apply in the off season.

Speaker 7 (01:03:05):
Yeah, you know, obviously you know, you learn how good
the Big Ten is.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:03:09):
You know, it's obviously the best basketball conference in the country,
and you know, you even look at it this year,
you know, there's probably seven or eight teams ranked in
the preseason top twenty five, including three in the top
five with Purdue, Michigan and UCLA, and so you know
you're competing against the best night after night, and it
is you know that the Big Ten schedules a bear,
you know, like we had a we had a solid

(01:03:30):
non conference, you know, you know, we tripped up a
couple of games, but you know, we we played pretty
well in the non conference, but then once once conference hit,
our depth, our depth got exposed, you know, especially at.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
The big spot.

Speaker 7 (01:03:43):
You know, we had some injuries, you know, with Big Frank,
you know, he only was able to play the last
you know, ten eleven games, and just by that time,
you know, Great and Willhelm where they were just worn down.
And it's not a league where you can play small
against very many teams, and so really attacking the recruiting
from a depth stand point, you know, just in getting
the best guard play you can get. You know, I

(01:04:05):
was really happy with Zoom his freshman year and the
progress that he's made, but I know he needs help too,
like you know, and obviously Tyler Mackay. You know, they
finished the year, you know, very strong, and obviously they're
at different institutions now, but we had we had to
stockpile some guards. And I really like the crew that
we brought in. They all kind of bring different things,
but it's just kind of a fresh start. And I

(01:04:27):
love the personality of this team, Like they're fun to
be around. They have good energy every day.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
Danny, you guys, I mean the basketball seasons here kind
of snuck up on me with the baseball season and
football season and stuff going on, and yet I did
end up catching part of your guys, is a little
tune up against UNLV where you kind of dominated in
the paint. And the newcomer, the young kid, Hans Steinbach
just starts off his career in purple with a double double.

(01:04:53):
What's this kid all about?

Speaker 7 (01:04:56):
Yeah, you know, he's he's six or eleven. He's tremendously
skilled for you know, being you know, he just turned nineteen.
You know, he's he's still a young pupp but he's
he's got he's got extreme talent. Uh, he's he's a
great worker. He's he's one of the smartest players I've
coached from a standpoint of like we can correct something
on the floor and it could be like a scout detail,

(01:05:17):
it could be how we're guarding a different action. And
he never screws it up twice, like he may screw
it up the first time you correct him and then
he's got it. And so his his processing is elite,
you know, which that's why he's a he's an elite player.
And he's on draft board right now and things like that.
But he he really rebounds the ball. It's almost like
he's got magnets in his hands, like literally the ball

(01:05:38):
just comes to him, and uh, you know, and he's
he has a chance to be a special player.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
Are he and Debtla Trump getting together for Schnitzel and
Broughtwurst the routine?

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
You know it, you know it, you know it.

Speaker 7 (01:05:49):
Hopefully hopefully you can have the career, Debtl.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
Yeah, that'd be good for Danny Sprinkle. I'll tell you
that Danny Sprinkle with would right here on checking Buck
in the morning. Uh about that pipeline that you had
with the USC Claude and Yates just exactly Uh, what
a boon it was for you in your program to
be able to lure both of those guys into uh Seattle.

Speaker 7 (01:06:13):
Yeah, I mean, obviously we're very fortunate. Uh you know.
With Wesley, you know, once he went into the portal,
you know, he he was obviously here his freshman year
and so he had a lot of friends here and
and he loved it here, and to be honest, he
didn't want to leave in the first place, you know,
and then after I think that year he just he
missed it, and so he was actually pretty easy to recruit.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:06:33):
And then obviously, you know, a couple of weeks later,
obviously Quincy Pondexter joined our staff and that's his cousin,
and so that, uh, you know, that was a bonus.
And obviously getting Quincy back, you know, just a former
Husky that has a tremendous amount of pride and uh
in the program, and he's just he's a great developer
on the court, like with his experience and all that,
he's been tremendous for our guys. And then with Desmond Claude,

(01:06:55):
you know, to be honest, and I've said it, you know,
numerous times on record, you know, We recruited him right
the day he hit the portal. We jumped in hard,
just like everybody in the country. You know, everybody thought
he was going to Florida. I don't know what happened there.
Then everybody thought he was going to Alabama. Don't know
what happened there.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:07:14):
And then it kind of came down like it was crickets.
For about a month recruiting him, we didn't hear from him,
his dad, nobody for about three and a half weeks.
And so I actually tried to call him twice to
tell him like, hey, like we're out, you know, like
we're done, you know, And thank god, he didn't pick
up the call or answer the text, and so I
didn't even get a chance.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
To tell him yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:07:35):
And uh and then he uh he called us back.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:07:38):
You know, I think some things fell through with you know,
Tennessee and Oregon and and uh in Alabama and uh, obviously,
you know, I may look dumb, but I'm not stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
I'm not going to pass up a great player.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Yeah. Uh, how is it gonna work with Zoom coming back?
And then Claude and Yates and Peterson?

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
How is the playing time at the garden and wings
gonna work between those guys the balance.

Speaker 7 (01:08:04):
Yeah, No, they like they've they've gotten along since day
one in the summer. They actually play really well with
each other. It's fun having two guys that can really
get the ball to the paint, you know, Zoom and
Desmond can really drive the ball, you know, and get
to the rim, you know. And then you got guys
like Wesley and Kamari who can really shoot the basketball,
you know, and JJ, our other freshman point guard who's you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
Know, tremendous. And then a kid Bryce and Tucker a.

Speaker 7 (01:08:26):
Six to seven wing from Indiana's had some had some
great moments, you know, and and really getting him to
be aggressive and really you know, hunt his shot and
hunt offensive rebounds and so like like I said, like
our guard play. You know, I think I can play.
We can play four guards at times and you know,
and be dynamic and play really fast. But I think,
you know, they're really playing together and sharing the ball,

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and they all have to realize like that they're not
gonna all average seventeen and ten and twelve or fifteen
whatever they average last year, because there's only one basketball
and so that's we have to we have to share
in each other's success, and we'll go as far as
our guards take us.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
Yeah, well, bryceon Tucker was who I was wanting to
ask you about. What is it about his aggressiveness that
you're talking about. You're wanting him to hunt and shoot
his shots. He looked good in that tune up in
that tune up game, So what is it in particular
you were saying that you really want him to work
on to where he can be an explosive player for you.

Speaker 7 (01:09:19):
Yeah, I mean the biggest thing I want him to
work on is just his defense, his physicality and rebounding
because he is he's probably our best fast twitch athlete,
you know. I mean he's six seven and he can
run like the wind, and he can he can really jump,
you know. I think he caught a lob actually against
It might have been against UNLV, it might have been
the other Scrimmish, but he's a tremendous athlete. But now

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it's him exerting his force on the game, you know,
Like I don't want him to kind of float around.
I always want him driving with some force, going to
the offensive glass with force, because when he does, like
he's really really hard to guard, and offensively, he's he's
an unbelievably talented mid range shooter, you know, and even
though a lot of people don't do that nowadays, he's

(01:10:02):
he's so talented at it, whether it's in the short
corner or getting to the elbow and raising up and
shooting over guys. Uh, that's kind of one of his gifts,
and uh, you know it's something that you know, we
want him to shoot.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
Danny Sprinkle is with US head coach of the Washington
Osky basketball team program. They're gonna debut on Monday against
Arkansas Pine Bluff.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
And you've been dealing with some injuries.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
So how healthy are you going to be by Monday
and maybe more importantly by Sunday against Baylor.

Speaker 7 (01:10:30):
Yeah, you know, I mean hopefully by Monday, you know, hopefully.
You know, Dead Claude's been out with a sprained ankle
here for almost three weeks. You know, Zoom just came
back from a concussion. He was out for three weeks. Uh,
Kamari Peterson's been out for almost a month with a
tweaked hamstring. I can go down the list, you know,
Jacob and Maddy. You Maddy's out for the year. Jacob's
out till you know, mid January, and I know I'm

(01:10:51):
missing somebody else because we haven't been able to practice
five on five until yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (01:10:55):
We haven't been able to play practice five on five
for the last almost months, and so it's been hard
to really like grind them in practice. Like that's that's
where you kind of want, you want to have your
training camp. You know, it'd be like football not being
able to really practice at all in August, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
Before they first came.

Speaker 7 (01:11:14):
And so you know, we'll we may be a little
bit behind, especially on rotations and you know, different guys
playing time and things like that, just until we get
everybody healthy. But by by Monday, you know, hopefully at
least they can you know, I imagine Desmond and Camario'll
be back. But now it's just getting those guys into
game shape.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
How much more comfortable are you? I mean, just you know,
getting your feet under you kind of you know, I
mean you don't have to get directions probably to your
office anymore. But really as far as just you get
to now it's you're not trying to put your stamp
on the program. It's your program. So how much more
comfort are you feeling going into this year?

Speaker 7 (01:11:53):
It's night and day, you know, and you know, just
you know, fans, everybody, like nobody knows how hard it
is to take another job, like the energy that it
takes to start back up year one. And it was
my third year in a different program. You know, it
was emotional leaving Montana State and building that thing up,
then Utah State building up, leaving like the emotions of

(01:12:14):
leaving players that you care about and leaving programs and
fan bases that you love. Like it's hard, you know,
and it took an emotional toll on me last year
that I didn't even really realize until probably this June,
you know, and like I was spent. You know, I
just was like you just you just go. You just
get through today, You get through the day, You get
through the day. And then it actually felt like home

(01:12:36):
probably the end of June. Like honestly, once the spring
quarter got over and kind of had a week you know,
before the guys the new crew came in for the summer.
And once the new crew came in, it was like
I was refreshed, you know, it was like okay, let's go.
You know, all the lessons we.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
Learned in year one.

Speaker 7 (01:12:54):
Okay, I actually feel comfortable here in Seattle. I know
where I'm going, I know where my home is, yo
out stuff out of storage, like I'm not living out
of Will Disley's house, and you know, like until like that,
that was like the comfort level. It's like, okay, like
I can breathe. Let's go, let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
Best of luck this season.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
Coach, thank you so much for your time, and we'll
buggy again real soon.

Speaker 7 (01:13:17):
All right, appreciate you. Hey, we need the fans do
a last airlines arena. We got to get displaced rocking
again and make it the hardest place to play in
the West Coast.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
Let's do it, all right, Danny Spring come out, Go dogs,
all right, go dogs. Danny Sprinkle joining us right here
on Chuck and Buck in the morning as he's getting
ready for a second season.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
That's I don't find that refreshing. I really do. I
like people that have self.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
Awareness and and and also awareness of those around them.
And for him to just say, you know what, I
got to admit I was spent. I mean it was
an emotional toll leaving Utah State, trying to catch up
here at Washington season didn't go the way that we wanted,
and by the end of the year, I'm not sure
I even realized how broken and beaten down that I

(01:14:01):
was by.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
The entire process.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
So I love that, and then I also love the
idea of it's very clear that he didn't spend too
much time pouting about it, because you want to talk
about going to work, and I'm sure he had some
help in IL wise, with some alums out there, probably
even Detlith.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
I have a feeling we got that German young kid
for a reason.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
But he went to work because to be able to
turn the roster over as much as he did and
to have people giving him votes for preseason Top twenty five.
Didn't quite crack the top twenty five, but they're getting
votes for it. They're getting recognized that watch out for
this team if they can put it together. The individual
pieces are good enough to be a tournament team, but

(01:14:46):
they got to now put it together and show that
they can play together.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
I think that's very impressive.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
I think that's very encouraging for Husky basketball fans out
there that somebody could look in the mirror and say
that season broke me down, but it did not defeat me,
and I needed a little bit of a breather, and
then I went to work. Man, I rolled back the
sleeves and went to work and rebuilt this entire roster.
And they are in much better position right now than

(01:15:14):
they were a year ago.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
One hundred. The I mean, whenever you're playing a sport
and it's the same coaching and you you either get
told of a change that's happening in your life or
you choose to make a change. Regardless which one it is,
it still is something is changing drastic, and yet you
don't have the time at that point in time to
not only not worry about it, you just flat out

(01:15:37):
you just gotta do what you gotta do. You gotta
take care of business. And it's only afterwards that you realize,
oh my gosh, that was Mayhem. And so I mean
to come from Utah's to hear uh and then try
to you know, you look at what you have, and
then you're trying to bring in what you can, and
you know, you bring a guy or two with you,

(01:15:58):
and then, like I said, just trying to figure all
the new names and new places and all that stuff.
It seems it's a daunting task. And yet you don't
have time to worry about it in the moment. It's
only afterwards when you stop and breathe and you realize, wow,
that was a whirlwind going on around with that entire time.

Speaker 5 (01:16:13):
I just like how Candidy is when he speaks about everything.
And I really like that he was living at will
Disley's house.

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
Yeah, yeah, about that.

Speaker 5 (01:16:20):
I'm like picturing the two of them as roommates, even
though Disley probably wasn't there, but that's how I'm picturing it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
I mean they didn't just bring in new parts. I mean,
Desmond Claude averaged sixteen points per game for USC last year.
I mean that's in the conference that you're playing. That's
a sixteen points per game score that you're just adding
to your team. That's a significant number. I know most
people usually think a leading scorer on a team twenty
twenty five points. Not a lot of teams have a

(01:16:49):
leading score that averages.

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
Twenty twenty five points. Sixteen.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
You just added a leading scorer onto your roster that
you probably didn't really have a year ago. I mean,
technically you did, but this is like a legitimate number
one score to have added through the transfer portal for
his final year. So I like that about what he
was able to pull off in this offseason. And so

(01:17:13):
I mean there's just a lot to like right now
about the way that this roster is constructed. And I
think it's a feather in the cap as well. I mean,
I don't know if it's such a great sign that
you get done with your first year and everybody leaves
the fact that Zoom decided to come back and kept
Nang decided to come back. At least there's something there

(01:17:33):
that suggests that, you know, there's some sustainability with your
coaching and people want more of it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
And those are two of the.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
Biggest names from last year's roster that had a choice
to stay or go, and they decided to stay.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
And then you also killed it in the transfer portal.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
Well, I mean, I think the reason why they're getting
some attention, you know, nationally as far as the rankings
and stuff go, is because of some of the moves
that he made, and then also some of the youth.
It's this Hans Steinbach kid, I mean, big and polished
for being a kid that just turned nineteen years old.
He just talked about the Bryce and Tucker, how twitch

(01:18:15):
he is, how crazy athletic he is, He's going to
be new to Husky fans. I think that off all
of a sudden. If those guys become good, really good
for being only freshman and a sophomore, and then they
gel together and sprinkle kind of leads them into what
they they're capable of being. I think they easily could
be a tournament team.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
All right, if we can get Hans's brother, Franz oh Man, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
I'm going to tump you up. Oh yeah, I'm going
to be I keep wanting to call him Hans Solo,
so that's probably.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
Not all right.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
Joining us next, that's Hans Sando will be with us
our NFL insider to talk about the Thursday night matchup
and of course Seahawk's commanders on Sports Radio ninety three
point three kJ R f M.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
The Athletic and brought to you by Hunt Services. Get
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Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
Signer joining us every Thursday at this time to talk
some football, his beloved football.

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
Good morning, Michael, Good morning, how are you? Howard?

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
Great are you like me one of the many jumping
on the Ravens bandwagon to come back and actually win
the AFC North this year.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
I mean, they could.

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
Because the rest of the division.

Speaker 4 (01:19:27):
I still think they have issues, though I do. I
think they have issues. There's something not quite right with them.
So I'm going to reserve judgment until I see Lamar
Jackson make it through this whole game and play well,
because there's something off with this team to me a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
Yeah, well then in that division, I mean, really the
nice thing about them having the injuries and just looking
a little off, because I'm with you on that, even
when Lamar was in there, they didn't look quite as
dominant as they have in the last couple of years.
Do you think that the Steam are legit? I mean
they are a couple of games on, don't you think that?
I mean, is it still there or their division to

(01:20:05):
go out and win if they can write the ship
a little.

Speaker 4 (01:20:06):
Bit, Yes, I do think that. I think it's ripe
for the taking. I don't think Pittsburgh is that great,
you know, and I've had some reservations about it. Just
Rogers making it through the whole year. It looks like
he might but there they've got some issues too, and
you know some of that. DK Metcalf Rogers a little
back and forth. It was mostly just Rogers complaining during

(01:20:27):
the game that stuff gets amplified if they if it
does start slipping away, right, So, I think I think
the Steelers will be okay if no one else pushes them.
I think if someone pushes them and it slips away
from them, then some of those things we were wondering
about before the year, about all the personalities and that stuff,
I think will become interesting there.

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
Well, I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
Maybe I didn't have you peg for a Raven's believer,
but you can't like the Dolphins. So where are you
at with Ravens Dolphins tonight? What kind of game we're
going to see?

Speaker 4 (01:21:02):
Well, it should be, you know, it should be the
Lamar Jackson show you against the defense that really you know,
the Dolphins in their life cycle sort of peaked a
year or so ago. They spent a ton of money,
they pulled back, They've changed a lot of their defense
over The chemistry isn't there, the the you know, they're
not as good as the talent is on their defense,
and so Baltimore should be able with Lamar playing to

(01:21:26):
have its way a little bit, that's to me the
key matchup in the game now. I think Baltimore's offense
defense was a little bitter last week. They got a
couple of guys back, So I'm going to lean towards
Baltimore in this game, but maybe it's not quite the
route that it normally would be.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
Mike Sanda was with us our NFL inside. I just
want to quickly just point out, I mean, I get it,
the Ravens don't look like the Ravens. They haven't all
season long, but they did score forty, forty one and
thirty points against the Bills, Browns, and Lions the first
three weeks, and then Kansas City roughed them upquite But
all of a sudden, Mike, Kans City looks like maybe

(01:22:03):
the best team in the National Football League.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
What do you think? Yeah, I'm with you on that.

Speaker 4 (01:22:08):
They've had, you know, six straight games of really really
pretty good offense. So that's something that they didn't have
as much last year and it was harder for them.
So I love the fact that their offense is rolling
a bit. I think they've got some confidence some of
the guys. They've got back. Have made a difference. Mahomes looks,
you know, like he's having an easier time. It's not
just you know, thirty two play drives, you know, every

(01:22:31):
single time, so they've had, you know, I think they
look pretty good and I've always trusted them to get
a little better as the season went on, and I
think they're in position to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:40):
Sando. I mean, the Ravens getting Jackson back is kind
of similar to the Commanders getting Jayden Daniels back. That's
through the Seahawks will face on Sunday night. How big
of a of a a shot to the arm is
that for Washington?

Speaker 4 (01:22:54):
Yeah, I don't feel like it's quite as big as
getting Lamar back. I just you know, I think Jaden
Daniels is along in this process. I think there's still
questions about his ability to hold up physically, whereas Lamar,
I mean had a hamstring, but he's been you know,
rolling with the punches for a long time and when
he and it's such a proven year after year guy,
that if the game plan for so, I think Seattle

(01:23:15):
likes likes his chances.

Speaker 6 (01:23:17):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:23:18):
One of the interest things about Washington is the way
they run their offense, like Mariota is not a bad backup. Like,
I don't feel like that drop is as big as
it should be based on how much better I think
Jayden Daniels is than Mariota, if that makes sense, just
because of the way they can kind of play. So
I like Seattle in the matchup. I think that they
match up really well with Washington and are going to

(01:23:39):
be the younger, more vibrant, more violent team in the game.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
Yeah, and I's coming off two weeks of rest, far
healthier than what the Commanders are. And even though it
kind of looked like the Commanders were going to roll
from the postseason last year right into this year, it
just hasn't happened. He brought up some good data that
I won't go over. Were with you, but maybe this
Washington team isn't a byproduct of a lot of injuries.

(01:24:06):
Maybe they really are just a three to five football team.

Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
Yeah, They're probably a little bit better.

Speaker 4 (01:24:12):
If Jayden Daniels plays the whole year, you know, they
probably have a better record than they have now. But
I'm with you that there's you know, it's it's gonna
be a year to think of reassessment for them and
maybe they get hot in the end and maybe they
win a playoff game. But you know, the way they
built that team was to add a lot of older
guys and veteran guys that were familiar with the defensive staff.
And I think they are going to get to a

(01:24:33):
point at some point where they, you know, may need
to retool that sete of the ball. And the interesting
thing about that is they could get that done. Go
young on defense, and then hey, is Cliff Kinkson, We're
going to figure out an offense that's sort of been
an issue at times in the past too, So they're
in an interesting spot.

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
Yeah, I mean, how concerned are you or would you
be if you run the Seahawks defensive staff about this
jickcor Ry krossky merrit kid.

Speaker 4 (01:25:02):
Yeah, I'd be a pretty concern. But I like my
chances the way, you know, our team defends the run
from a Seattle perspective. So I think you're wary of him,
and you know that he's good, but you know, you've
you've played Christian mccaffee, you played some you know, decent
backs before. So I think wary, but not afraid.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
What's going to happen at the trade deadline, we're going
to get a big name or is there going to
be a lot of this little nickel dimes stuff We've
been saying there.

Speaker 4 (01:25:26):
Could be one, Yeah, there could be there. You know,
I don't think there's gonna be a lot. There's always
a chance so that there's one. But you're right, most
of these trades are involving seventh and sixth round picks.
You know that it's rare to have somebody give up
a two or a three or o one, But I
think it is always possible. I think you can't say
that it's not going to happen because the dynamics of
each one of these years and trades are are different,

(01:25:50):
and sometimes it may teams may get close to doing
it and not do it, but it still can come together.
So I think that I think there's more willing gms
and people willing to make a move that you know,
the deadline is at least worth watching to see if
it does happen. And we've seen some you know, some
decent players a Montes Sweat or some guys like that
have have changed teams to shoot. Leonard Williams was a

(01:26:12):
very good player who changed teams. So I do think
there could be players like that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
But no, Miles Garrett, No, Trey Hendrickson, No, Max Crosby.
You don't see that big of a name going huh.

Speaker 4 (01:26:22):
Well, I would not, No, I don't think so, Max Crosby,
you know, Trey Hendrickson, I would lean towards not.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:26:31):
And then who's the last one, you said, Miles Garrett?

Speaker 4 (01:26:33):
Miles Garrett, I mean, you never know with Cleveland, but
I think doing that when they paid him the way
that they did, you know, I think they knew that
they weren't going to be a juggernaut team this year.
So I don't know that their playing I don't know
that their season is going any differently than they thought
it would when they sign them, If that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
All right, Well, I do have to ask you going
back to Kansas City and Buffalo. I mean, I mean,
this might be the regular season game of the year
for goodness sake, feels like that's been the case for
the last five years in the National Football League. What
do you expect in that matchup?

Speaker 4 (01:27:06):
Well, I would like to see a little bit more
of a pulse from Buffalo. I just feel like they
haven't been on their a game for a few weeks now,
and Kansas City, coming off of buy should really get
their attention. I just you know, I feel like Kansas
City for once is playing better offensively than the Bills
going into this matchup. So I want to see the
Bills offense. Let's see what they can do and if
they can keep pace, because I don't think they're going
to stop Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (01:27:27):
Isn't it funny?

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
They could win by a thousand and the story afterward
will be You've still got to beat them in the postseason.

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
By now, I know.

Speaker 4 (01:27:35):
That's truly true for all these teams in the AFC.
Kansas City, could you know? Kansas City just is like,
you know, its own recognissance, right, I Mean, they're just
kind of you know that they're probably going to be
there in the end, and you got to beat them
when it really matters to to really prove yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:27:51):
All right, you as always true to your reputation of
being the man. Thank you, Michael. We appreciate it. Thank you,
appreciate it all right, enjoy the football.

Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
Mike say our NFL insider. You can follow him at
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Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
Of course you should be. He's got podcasts, he's got
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