Best of Chuck & Buck 12-17

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Great Crooks.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
Good morning everyone, Good morning, it's some time. Good morning
class ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
Hold introducing six one guard from Brighton, Illinois and former
high school basketball stand What the hell does that mean?

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Jumped any conclusions? Not a god, You've got to lower
lower your expectations.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Hard to believe.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
We could once send a fastball to Pluto getting some
Bucky Jacobson vibes and former.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
I'll just openly admit I'm a fat, out of shaped
X athlete.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Now there's been a noticeable spike in your blood pressure.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Five seven guard and a former college water polo national champions.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
A lot of useless crap up here.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Wow, this is Chuck and Buck in the Morning with
Ashley Ryan Buck to you buy to Latok Casino Resort
and quill see the Creek Draftking sportsbook where the action
never stopped.

Speaker 5 (00:56):
There you go, Hey, good morning and welcome into the
radio show. It is Chucking them back in the Morning

(01:16):
Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Here on this Wednesday.

Speaker 6 (01:21):
Home day, which is normally magical in its own right. Yes,
it is the time where we typically start the preview
of the next Sea Hawk game.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
But today when man we're two three days into this already.

Speaker 6 (01:37):
Hell, I was into it right as I was watching
Philip Rivers walk onto the field Sunday, I was already
into it. So we are way into our Rams Seahawks
preview and now here we find ourselves on the eve
of the game of the Year, and so we will
be discussing it quite a bit here on the radio program.
As you might expect, Greg Bell will be with us

(01:58):
a couple of other surprises that we'll out for you
with what's on tap, and so certainly that'll be the
driving force behind this hump day edition of Chuck and
Buck in the Mornings.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
But we have to.

Speaker 6 (02:08):
Start just quickly before we dive into some of this
Seahawks analysis of this game. We've got a champion in
our midst She's won another crown, So hang another banner
at the five Iron household.

Speaker 7 (02:21):
How's that?

Speaker 6 (02:22):
Well, she's water polo champion, as I know that, Yepen mentions.
And now she's also a cart champion.

Speaker 7 (02:32):
A decorated carving cart.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah yeah, so congratulations.

Speaker 8 (02:36):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
This one might mean more.

Speaker 9 (02:38):
I mean, we've been doing this for years and we
go all out and decorate our cart and.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
And when you say years, how long like four years? Okay,
part five years. We do it, and you know, everybody
goes up.

Speaker 9 (02:49):
They have a big open house and then there's a
parade and everyone judges the cards.

Speaker 10 (02:53):
Then we go around the neighborhoods. So it's a blast.

Speaker 7 (02:55):
Okay.

Speaker 9 (02:56):
And yesterday I just had a feeling it felt different.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Uh huh, it felt different. It felt different, and uh,
you woke up feeling dangerous.

Speaker 9 (03:06):
We did Mayfield were Russell Wilson with a subway sandwich.

Speaker 10 (03:11):
Okay, yeah, and uh and and I it felt different
for a reason because.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
When we walked up there, I knew we were going
to dominate. I knew it.

Speaker 9 (03:20):
We got out of our cart, we walked in and
I was like, this is our year, this is our year.
We did the parade, we got the the prizes were
handed out or laid out, and they said, and our winners,
we have a first place tie.

Speaker 7 (03:35):
Oh oh.

Speaker 10 (03:38):
And it was us and our dear friend Sharon.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Oh wow, you both won first place.

Speaker 10 (03:43):
One first place tie.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Must have been phenomenal.

Speaker 9 (03:46):
Decorating it was phenomenal. Not one of our best efforts,
but clearly the crowd loved it.

Speaker 6 (03:52):
Yeah, Well, went over the crowd. Gladiator told us that, yep,
are you not entertained?

Speaker 2 (03:56):
And they were, and that's it.

Speaker 9 (03:58):
You know, sometimes it might not have be your best
decoring effort, but you got to put forth with the effort.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Uh huh. And we gave it all all. You won
the crowd, you won your freedom.

Speaker 7 (04:07):
So tied for first. Yeah, and second. How do you
how many carts get decorated in this type of thing?

Speaker 9 (04:14):
Usually, I mean twenty to thirty. This ye was a
little different, different, like for there were two.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
Oh man, yeah, oh man.

Speaker 9 (04:27):
See, so when I walked up and saw the other
cart decorated, I was like, there's this year is different
and there's two. We're getting a prize this year.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Boy, it really sucked if you finished second this year.

Speaker 9 (04:41):
I thought we were honestly going to finish second because
I when I say it was not our best effort.
We put some tinsel on the outside because it was
pouring and we didn't want it to blow away.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
But then we had Palmer and a Christmas tree outfit.
Baba the Great and the.

Speaker 9 (04:54):
Christmas tree outfit put you over the top. She walked
right in front of the cart. She was in addition
to the cart actually.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Probably put you to the top since you didn't finish
over the time, just.

Speaker 9 (05:03):
Put us at the top alongside the other person that
made an effort to show up with a decorated cart.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
It didn't put you below the top, correct, yes, correct, Yeah,
so it played a role. So there you go, guys.

Speaker 7 (05:15):
Yeah, that's impressive.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, and you know what, I'm impressed. It might be
a strong word.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
In fifty years when they're talking about the champions and
even co champions, they're not.

Speaker 7 (05:24):
Gonna they're not going to say out of how many cars?

Speaker 9 (05:27):
Oh no, they definitely will, because everybody was laughing, like
the fact that because there were a lot of people
at the open house, nobody just decorated carts because the
club will provide carts and people can decorate those.

Speaker 10 (05:37):
But it's pouring and they don't have doors, so they're
gonna get soaked.

Speaker 6 (05:40):
You know what, when they talk about Bill Russell's eleven champions,
uh huh, chips. You know, the Celtics themselves don't point
out there were only like ten teams in.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
The league, right, you know, right, you know the Yankees.

Speaker 6 (05:52):
So when they you know, in the Babe Ruth days,
nobody goes out of their way to say that there
were only fourteen teams in the league.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
I mean, think about it, think about it.

Speaker 6 (05:59):
That I will think about it basically the Celtics dynasty.

Speaker 10 (06:03):
And I like that thought process.

Speaker 9 (06:05):
The problem here again, though, is that everybody laughed a
lot because there were only two carts. So it will
be talked about for years to come. How two people
braved the elements to show up for the cart parade
and one of them made her child walk in the ring.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
You know what.

Speaker 6 (06:19):
That's another part of this that has to be etched
in history, is how much you braved the elements.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
See, And that's all I'm saying. I mean there were
gale force winds.

Speaker 6 (06:29):
Going on and a lot of water and a lot Well, congratulations,
thank you.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
We're going to celebrate this moment. We got a champion
on it. That's right, that's right when we started this show.
Oh okay, how many were in it? I don't even
care you were at the top.

Speaker 10 (06:46):
I don't remember how many were in it. All I
remember is the moment.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
It was.

Speaker 6 (06:51):
Yeah, I was the champion of my meal I had
last night. I was the only person that ate it
and I won it.

Speaker 10 (06:57):
Congratulations, I defeated the meal and how did it feel.

Speaker 7 (07:00):
Uh like a winner?

Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, I felt like a winner. Well, there you go,
and that's the way the Winsday edition. I me.

Speaker 6 (07:07):
You know, it's great to win a championship before even
play your biggest game of the year. So look at
the look at the leg up Ashley's got on. All
RAMS fans just.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Wanted to get us, you know, off on the winning FLA.

Speaker 6 (07:19):
It's not like a RAM fan one, No RAM fan
one last night the other people weren't.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Rammed, I would have taken the prize and run.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
Okay, well Ram Seahawks. It is tomorrow night. And of
course I don't know if there's anybody in the National
Football League in analyst that's questioning whether or not the
Seahawks defense is ready for this matchup against Matt Stafford.
They've already faced the Rams, uh and did well. Matt

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Stafford has had an MVP season. The only time he
didn't look like an MVP was against the Seahawks when
they faced him. He actually looked confused at times. He
certainly didn't put up the numbers that have made him
an MVP candidate. And so I don't know if anybody's
questioning whether or not the Seahawks defense is going to
be ready for this matchup tomorrow night. But it feels

(08:07):
like everybody's questioning whether the offense is where it needs
to be heading into this game. Yet they posted some
big numbers eventually against the Atlanta Falcons and ended up
with a blowout eventually against the Minnesota Vikings.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
But there's some red flags going on around here.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
As Hugh Millen helped us point out on Monday morning,
you played the Indianapolis Colts with Philip Rivers quarterbacking on
the other side, and yet you didn't score a touchdown
four quarters. You didn't score a touchdown at home against
the Indianapolis Colts, And so there are a couple of things.
Number one, why are you settling for so many.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Field goals these days?

Speaker 6 (08:46):
We also have the Sam Darnold turnover issue that Greg
brings up a lot that is undeniable. It's factual information.
He's one of the league leaders in number of turnovers
individually as a quarterback this year. And certainly there is
a big concern over a lack of a running game.

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No matter how hard they try, no matter how much
effort they give toward this project, they don't seem to
be getting better at it. And so as we get
ready for the biggest game of the year, you do wonder.
You have to wonder whether or not this offense is
in a good place to pull off its biggest win.

Speaker 7 (09:25):
Of the season.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
They're gonna have to show up and play one of
their better games, you would think, and or you know
that combined with some mistakes for that the defense forces
some mistakes, or you know, some short fields for them
and whatnot. But yeah, I think that you can come
off of a win against a team that is heading
in the opposite direction of where you're wanting to go

(09:47):
in the Colts, I mean, and who they were playing
at quarterback, all that kind of stuff, you could you
can come off of a win and still not feel
better about yourself going into the bigger, biggest game. And
I think the offensive side of the ball should Now
is that a different ball game if you're playing against
the Rams. Is there times that they go for it
on fourth down when they when they decided to kick
field goals? I think quite possibly, because typically the Rams

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are a team that isn't going to have as much
of a difficulty of putting up points as well no
matter how good your defense is, they're still going to
they're still going to get down and they're going to
move the ball from time to time.

Speaker 7 (10:21):
It's it's against their offense.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
You're thinking, we got to contain this situation, you know,
when we think our defense can, it's not. You're not
probably going out there thinking a shutout as likely, And
so I think the offense has to do a little
bit more than just hopefully kind of stay in it
that type of a thing, because they're just there's some
danger on that rams side of things, and it's not
like their defense is some slouch either. They can take
the ball away from you, they can get after the pass,

(10:45):
so they can they can fortune mistakes too. So it's
there's a lot going on into this thing, and I
think the offensive masterminds over there definitely have their hands full.

Speaker 6 (10:53):
As much as I like going forward on fourth down,
I mean, I'm not Greg Olsen, but I'm more in
the Olsen category. I do like going forward on fourth down.
I don't like settling for field goals. I really didn't
have a problem with those decisions. I mean, there were
six of them to be made on Sunday, and each
time Mike McDonald took the points and it turned out

(11:15):
to be just enough. I don't really want to. I
don't really like playing football that way. I think Pete
Carroll did this. Sometimes. I just want to be there
in the fourth quarter. I'd rather be up ten in
the fourth quarter. Frankly, Yeah, I don't want to sit
there and let it hinge on whether or not I
can stop a team from getting into field goal range
or if we can get into field goal range. Because
we're playing a one score game. I'd much prefer having

(11:36):
a big lead heading into the fourth quarter. So I
don't necessarily, I mean as a whole, I don't like
putting our putting my team in that position. That said,
the six decisions that he made, I don't know if
I had a problem with any of them. Where I
do have a problem is the way that Clint Kubiak
seems to be approaching, you know, getting into the red zone,

(11:59):
or as Hugh and Coach talked about on Monday, the
fringe zone, which now you only have to get in
the fringe zone twenty to forty yard line, because that
puts you in field goal range in today's game, especially
when you're boasting the hottest kicker in the National Football League.
But it's very clear that this team's not really running
the football effectively, and we have now had fourteen games

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to try to figure out how to do that well.
We're getting ready for the biggest three games of the
year against three potential playoff teams. Two of them are
going to be on the road, and so I don't
want to sit here and just spend my entire game
trying to establish that we can run the football.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
And I'll give you two great examples of this.

Speaker 6 (12:41):
I mean, you try to establish the run in the
first quarter, you can't get anything going against the Indianapolis Colts.
At the end of the first quarter, you finally start
clicking Donald hits cup for sixteen yards, then Donald to
Shiheed for thirteen yards, and you go from the thirty
eight yard line to their thirty three yard line, and
no time, you're at their thirty three yard line and

(13:02):
you started going up tempo. Even the announcers pointed that out.
Look at how they're just racing to So it's like, okay,
all right, we tried to establish the run. You're not
going to abandon the run late in the first quarter.
But you got to get the offense going and it
looks like you have and what did they do on
the next three plays? Walker run left, pitch left, walker left, draw,

(13:23):
walker field goal. By everything that you got going, you
then just gave away. And I realized that the art
of football is to do something that they're not expecting,
but not at the risk of doing something that you're
good at. Right right, I mean, because we've seen throughout

(13:44):
history that I mean, Mike Holmgren didn't not throw the
football because he knew the defense knew that they could
throw the football, and to me, that is happening way
too frequently. There are other examples in it as well,
like there were a couple of drives that bogged down,
a Brady Russell drop, a missed PI.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
At one point, you had two at the end of
the first half.

Speaker 6 (14:09):
You're trying to just get a field goal out of it,
and so you're trying to get into field goal range.
You're not trying to put together a long touchdown drive
at that point, and so that's how you finished with
three points at one point. And then later in the game,
kind of the same thing happened. They were rolling, they
were clicking, and then they decided once we're in scoring range,
let's run the football, and the thing bogged down again.

(14:31):
And so I'm not saying that he has to change dramatically, Ashley.
I'm not saying you abandoned the run. But man, this
is not in the must win category, because I think
you're making the playoffs no matter what. But if you
want to win the division, this is a must win.
And I don't want to sit here spending the entire day,
spending every drive trying to make sure the Rams know

(14:54):
that we can run the football. We might not be
able to run the football, and we definitely damn sure
can throw the football, and we certainly have a wide
receiver that dominates football games. We've watched it time and
time again, no matter how many people that they put
on him. And so I don't want to sacrifice what
we do best just to show the Rams that what
we do worst.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Is something we can do. It's something we can do.
And I think that that's been happening way too frequently.

Speaker 9 (15:20):
Yeah, it's very frustrating that I don't think that that
you need to prove to anyone you can run the football,
And it does seem like at times they want to
prove to people that they can do it, and I
don't understand it. I noticed on Sunday that when they
started speeding things up, like you were just talking about
the tempo of the offense, that's when they were their
most successful.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
And then it would just and.

Speaker 9 (15:38):
You had a lot of energy in the building and
then all of a sudden, it would just fizzle because
the offense just fizzled. And I don't know why you
would all of a sudden change that I understand. You
have to have, you know, different plays in different you know,
a different game plan once you're inside the red zone,
but it shouldn't be a completely different game plan that
takes away your best weapon.

Speaker 7 (15:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
The other example was at the end of the third core.

Speaker 6 (16:00):
I mean, you have the ball at the twenty at
the time, you're trailing by a touchdown, Donald that beauty
to Shaheed twenty seven yards, Donald to Cup for six yards.
Then you mixed in a run, got one yard for
your effort. Then on the very next play twenty nine
yards to JSN and you've gone from the twenty to
their seventeen throwing the football and then what happens you

(16:23):
get into the fourth quarter, you have a break, you
come out of the fourth quarter, you're in their red zone.
You are in a position, and.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
What do we do? Run?

Speaker 6 (16:30):
Run, third and long pass. So that to me just
I'm not saying overhauled, Bucky. I'm not saying you a
band in the run. I'm just saying I'm not going
to spend the biggest game of the year trying to
prove to the National Football League that you have to
respect our running game. Let's do what we do best

(16:50):
when it matters most.

Speaker 7 (16:52):
Yeah, well, I mean I get what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
They're not a drastic overhaul, not abandoning the run, but
not necessarily being so you know, clutching onto it so
that you feel like, man, what are we going to do?
I mean, I think that there's it's a you know,
I talk a lot of times when we're talking about
baseball about like the approach right, like be ready to
ambush first pitch, fast past. So that doesn't mean I
want everybody going up there and swinging at the first.

Speaker 7 (17:13):
Pitch, right, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
So that's like you don't want everybody, you don't want
Sam Donald to drop back and pass first down every
time just because it seems to be the way they
move the ball the best, obviously, but there's a part
where I mean that first example that you said where
their first scoring drive they go three and out their
first their first possession, the second possession is that bang bang,
couple passes and then run, run, run. It's like somewhere

(17:38):
in those three, right, I mean, you could just keep
rolling with this thing.

Speaker 7 (17:41):
Right and then and then you get it. Yeah, why not?

Speaker 4 (17:44):
I mean the first run they run and he ends
up getting four yards. Okay, so now you're second and six.
Somewhere here you got to go. You got to just
stick with what got you here. Take you know, dance
with the girl that got you to the thirty yard
line or whatever, twenty nine yard line at that point
instead of two more runs because you're I mean, when
you get to third and four, it's like you're just
trying to trick him.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Now.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
I would be curious to find out from you or
Sam Donald if the opponents are showing them pass defenses
pre snap and then if they're adjusting to their run right,
like if it's if they maybe Clint Kubak is calling
a pass there, you would think third and four after
he goes pass pass to get down there, two runs

(18:25):
and now you're at third and four. You would think
that's a pass play, right, That typically is a pass
play in the NFL. Nope, draw and then instead they
and so that might be one of those where he's
like the defense is messing with Sam Donald and he's
checking out of the play. I don't know for sure,
but I mean it's just a food for thought as
to why they do it, because I would have to
think that if you're if I'm an offensive coordinator, yes,

(18:46):
I want to be able to run, but I would
also like to just move the ball in chunks. How
much easier is it when you're getting twenty yard plays,
fifteen yard plays, thirty yard plays. It's a whole heck
of a lot easier to move the ball down the
field versus thinking you're gonna get twelve runs that are
going to quit the yards and seven points.

Speaker 6 (19:01):
Anybody that has been an adult and has socialized at
some point in their life, at one point at a
party was in charge of the music. And if the
party's jumping, you don't just suddenly choose that.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Moment to play the carpenters. No, right, I mean yeah
at the junior high party.

Speaker 6 (19:19):
Yeah, you've got to strategize when you're gonna play the
slow song, because it's the only time the boys will
actually dance.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
You know, at least in my high school, a lot
of white people.

Speaker 6 (19:30):
But when you're in charge of your own party and
you've got you've got to read the energy of the party, right.
You don't just to suddenly go from everybody's dancing and
having a good time and then you just slip in
some Anne Murray Morose number that just kills the entire
mood of the party. And it's the same thing with

(19:50):
Colin plays. I don't want to just play slow songs
just because we think we need to just feed.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
The feel, the feel, the beat of the rhythm of
the night.

Speaker 6 (20:00):
That's right, Yeah, all right, let's find out what's on
tap for today's show.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
What's on TEP, what's on tech?

Speaker 2 (20:09):
All right, Greg bel joins us this morning at seven
o five.

Speaker 6 (20:12):
His buddy Omar Ruiz from the NFL Network, who's been
doing a lot of stuff in la will be joining
us today at eight o'clock this morning, So that's coming
up on the show. Injury updates, still a question mark
about DeVante Adams with the Rams. Also, Charles Cross for
the Seahawks. Will get those updates from Greg at seven five.
College football playoff week, Oklahoma takes on Alabama Friday to

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get it started the three games on Saturday. We'll talk
a little college football playoff later in the show. Crack
and lost again last night. To Everett Fitzhugh's point, it's
not like they've been playing bad hockey, just not good
enough to win games for goodness sake, and that was
a perfect example of that last night. They actually led
three to two against Colorado, but end up losing the

(20:58):
game against the best team in the NHL right now
by a final score of five to three. The NBA
It's Cup champion this year is the New York Knicks.
We got to find some time to talk about this
later on. The Knicks one over the San Antonio Spurs
to take a trophy that apparently NBA players don't want,
so we'll talk about that also, though the bigger news.
Adam Silvery yesterday discussed expansion and said that we will

(21:23):
address this once and for all in twenty twenty six.
We won't put Seattle in Vegas through this any longer.
We will make an announcement this year, and he mentioned
no other city specifically beyond Seattle and Las Vegas. And finally,
Terrence Crawford forty two to ohero in his boxing career.
I know we don't make as big a deal out
of boxing anymore, but this was this guy's in the

(21:45):
conversation for one of the greatest pound for pound fighters
of all time, and he just decided, I've won like
six different belts at six different weight levels, and I
don't really like the politics. I'm retiring. I got nothing
left to prove. So a pretty big story there from
the boxing world yesterday. Coming up next Major League Baseball.
The Mariners made a signing yesterday. We'll tell you how

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for details. The Kraken couldn't get it done again last night.
That's now what nine out of ten games that they
have lost. Yes, they were taking on the best team
in the NHL right now, the Colorado Avalanche, and yes
they led at one point in the second period in
that contest, but they end up coughing up the lead losing,

(23:29):
got an empty net goal late. Wasn't as bad as
what it looked like. It was about a one goal
difference in that game, but it ends up being five
to three is your final score. So the Krakens losing
ways continue. They can't seem to get out of this
slump right now. Nine losses in their last ten games.
They'll try to end the skid in Calgary against the Flames,
and that game will be tomorrow night.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
At six o'clock, let's.

Speaker 6 (23:53):
Take a look at the rest of your frost brewed
Corps light choose chill headlines from the NBA. Theba A
Cup was determined last night. This end season tournament that
the NBA is trying to convince us is really cool,
and yet it really feels like players are embarrassed to
win it.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
That's probably not a good thing for Adam Silver.

Speaker 6 (24:12):
But based on Adam Silver's other report yesterday that he
is going to announce in twenty twenty six the expansion
plans for the National Basketball Association, we should probably be
kissing up to the commissioner right now. So I'll say, man,
I love that NBA Cup. What theater you've created, Adam Silver.
You are a genius.

Speaker 9 (24:32):
The way you paint those floors to give everyone a
headache amazing.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Ah man.

Speaker 6 (24:36):
And it is NonStop, breathtaking action. I think it's nearly
as good as the NBA.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
Finals, probably better, but just halfway through the season it's
like two of.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Them, two championships.

Speaker 6 (24:49):
Silver said that yes, he's put Seattle in Vegas through
too much waiting for this announcement, and he really didn't
mention anybody else.

Speaker 8 (24:58):
He kind of.

Speaker 6 (24:58):
Lumped in the rest of the world with other possibilities
for expansion. He named Seattle and Las Vegas individually collectively.
He said, we will make an announcement in twenty twenty six.
Enough of this, so yes, that is a bit of
news that we certainly will discuss a little bit later
on in the show.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
It's college football playoff week.

Speaker 6 (25:19):
Oklahoma and Alabama will get it started on Friday night
at five o'clock.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
There'll be three games on Saturday.

Speaker 6 (25:26):
Also from college football, Jeremiah Love announced his intentions to
enter the NFL Draft. Very likely he'll be a top
ten pick, maybe even a top five pick, even though
he plays the running back position.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Mariners made a signing yesterday.

Speaker 6 (25:39):
They signed a true backup catcher yesterday, Andrew Kisner, to
a one year deal.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
So Kisner is just to give you a scouting report.

Speaker 6 (25:49):
My dad used to make He made me a pitchback
when I was a kid because he couldn't always be
home to catch and throw it back to me. So
he made it like this pitchback thing. It was like
this wear thing with a net and it would just
launch the ball right back to me. That's pretty much
Andrew Kissner he's a pitchback with feet.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Oh yeah, that's that's the role that he will play.

Speaker 6 (26:10):
And of course in the National Football League, Thursday Night
football gets it started and we are at the heart
of the football world. Seattle will host the Los Angeles
Rams tomorrow, the biggest game of the regular season. Time
to talk more about it with our Seahawks insider Greg
Bell with.

Speaker 11 (26:27):
The Bell tolls.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
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Speaker 6 (26:49):
Good morning, Greg. All right, well here we are just
a day away. I mean, we're already days into this
conversation about this game, but that's how big it is.
And of course so we highlight injury reports more so
than ever we have. Do we have any updated information
on our left tackle and their number two wide receiver.

Speaker 8 (27:11):
Today, Well, they both were estimated not practicing again. The
Seahawks had a T shirt.

Speaker 12 (27:16):
Practice or walked through and they said if had they
had a fuller practice that they estimate that Charles Cross
was not a practice with the hamstring issue to Vante Adams,
same thing for Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Look, hamstring issues are probably.

Speaker 8 (27:32):
The wrong injury to try to go three days rest
and play two games on and especially with two teams
that are going to be playing in January. So I
would be surprised at this point if either one of
them play. The word I'm getting from friends of mine
that around the Rams in LA say that Adams is
probably not going to play. But the McVeigh is kind

(27:54):
of doing a little bit of gamesmanship by saying we'll
take it up to game time. I'm pretty sure that's
what McDonald's going to say the same thing about.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Charles Cross today. But I would be surprised if either
one plays.

Speaker 8 (28:06):
That means Josh Jones at left tackle, and it means
probably more of three tight ends for the Rams. They
played twenty four and a half percent, almost twenty five percent,
one out of every four plays in three tight ends,
by far the most of the league. The league averages
five percent. Colby Parkinson has been very good for them

(28:26):
in the former Seahawks of course that they drafted first
four years in the league with Seattle, He's been the
primary thrust of that. But they have a Terrence Ferguson,
a rookie that also sixty six, two hundred and fifty pounds.
Becomes a matchup nightmare when you have to cover Parkinson
and Ferguson and a third tight.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
End who has three touchdowns.

Speaker 8 (28:47):
But I wrote for the News Tribune yesterday, I think
the Seahawks and the Seahawks think the Seahawks are uniquely
prepared for this because of Nicky un Worry in particular,
they have an asset that not of anybody else has.
They can mix and match Witherspoon and Emon Warrey on
if they go three tight ends, they could put Witherspoon
on Cook the CooA. They can even put nick demon

(29:08):
Warrey on Poopoo Nacoa because we've seen even Worrie even
covering Justin Jefferson. So, like I said yesterday, I think
Mike McDonald's got unlike any other defense of MINDA league.
I think he's got Sean McVay. I think we may
see that again the morrow night.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
So if it is just Jones and I'm with you,
I think that the hamstrings. Those are touchy ones. I
remember in college polling one and then I came back
too soon and next thing you know, is a lingering
thing for the rest of the season. So I think
they do take those really seriously. That just Jones, is
there a drop off because I mean, looking at some
of the stats and his limited amount of time, he
actually looked pretty good out there.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
He isn't good and.

Speaker 8 (29:47):
That's why they signed m to be a swing tackle.
He came in the other day at right tackle when
Abe Lucas was getting checked for a few plays that
Lucas was signed to finish the game. But sure there's
a drop off. Otherwise Joshines will be starting. They have
the strength of their offensive line coming in the season
was their two starting tackles, so if one was not
gonna play in the biggest game of the year, yeah, absolutely,

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that's a drop off. But again, this is why they
signed Josh Jones, a veteran who's played both sides of
the line and tackle both sides of the line of guard,
most recently for the Ravens, but for Houston and other teams.
This is why he's here. So go do what you've
been signed to do.

Speaker 6 (30:24):
Greg Bellis with us our Seahawks Insider. It's interesting you
brought up the name Robbie Ootz yesterday. Maybe we'll see
more of him. I'm also thinking back to me too. Yeah,
I think I'm also thinking back to training camp when
Jalen Milroe was supposed to have a package all season long,
and we haven't heard the name Jalen Milroe in weeks.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Maybe it's pointless to ask about.

Speaker 6 (30:46):
Him with such a big game tomorrow, But is there
a chance that there's a couple of little wrinkles involving
him since we've forgotten about him, and maybe the Rams
have as well.

Speaker 8 (30:59):
There's a chance, but they've time. They decided that roster
spots are more important than a gimmicky third quarterback package plays.
My read on this, I've talked to Andrew Johnico, the
quarterbacks coach. I've talked to King Kubac about him. They've
decided this is basically a rich shirt year for him,
and because they're not getting consistent push and blocking in

(31:22):
the run game, they decided to scrap this whole experiment
for the time being. Okay, I think that's what I
think that I mean, basically, it's been If we can't
block for Kenneth Walker, why are we going to put
Jana Miller out there and try and get him beat up?
So I think that's where it's at right now, and
this is a red shirt season for him.

Speaker 7 (31:41):
All right.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
Well, I mean there's some concern with some of the
weather that's rolling in, obviously. I'm just the Seahawks like
to run. They like to make sure that they let
everybody know we're not afraid to run, even if it's
not being super effective, if it's really super windy. Do
you see them even double out on that more?

Speaker 13 (32:00):
Unfortunately, Well unfortunately in a way yes, because unfortunately, you'd say,
because of their results forty nine yards on twenty two
carries against the Colts.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
But they still lead the league in most run plays.

Speaker 8 (32:15):
Forty eight percent of the time they're running, yet they're
fifth to last, and how much they're getting three point
nine yards per carry, And that's the problem. I think
they're going to I don't know to answer your question.
They're not just going to throw up their hands and
say we're not running it anymore. And the conditions tomorrow
will be such that they may even do it even more.

(32:36):
I think the Rams the same way. This is not
a knight. If the win the rain, they can deal
with and we've talked about that. But if this is
as windy as they're predicting, then I don't see this
as a game that Stafford throws it around forty times.
And they Seahawks have been in the run either, keep
saying it. They ain't going anywhere until they.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Run the ball.

Speaker 8 (32:58):
Not winning the West, I'll have an home playff games,
not win the super Bowl if they don't win tomorrow. Guys,
the Seahawks are strong. I mean it would take a
catastrophic failure or the Rams to lose the division if
they don't win tomorrow. The Rams don't win tomorrow. But
if the Seahawks don't win tomorrow, we're looking at at Tampa,
at Chicago or Green Bay to start the playoffs. Now,

(33:19):
nobody is so running away with this that you can
look at any team and say, well, the Seahawks have
no chance against them.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
But that's not exactly a recipe to go win the
Super Bowl.

Speaker 8 (33:28):
Go to Tampa Bay, go to Chicago, and go to
whoever's left after you've won those two games. That's a
tough gauntlet to go the Seahawks can do it because
of the defense they have, but the pass is going
to get a lot harder than to win tomorrow. I
think they're going to keep running it. We'll see they
have any effectiveness at all. K Charles Cross not in

(33:49):
there doesn't help.

Speaker 6 (33:50):
It's been so long since we've evaluated Josh Jones, and
I thought he looked terrific in the preseason, particularly, But
what I mean, if you do have to run, they
run the ball more because of weather or because of effectiveness,
whatever the case may be. Does Josh Jones? What's his profile?
Is he a better pass blocker run blocker? How would

(34:12):
we describe Josh Jones at this stage if he is
in fact replacing Charles Cross.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Well, it's been in the league because it was pass blocking.
It's a past league.

Speaker 8 (34:21):
But the teams he's played for, Houston and Baltimore before
this particular, run the ball more than most teams do,
especially Baltimore and the Baltimore profile, even though it was
only a year or so that he was there, is
why he's with Seattle. So the answers both and again,
this is why you do this, This is why you
sign a veteran swing guy. I think called the veteran

(34:43):
swing guys and tackles they've had the last few years
instead of just relying on an undrafted rookie year some
roster filler guy. This is the break glass in case
of emergency guy. And that's exactly what they're going to
be looking at tomorrow. Again, they haven't ruled out Charles.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
I wouldn't make that cleayer.

Speaker 8 (35:01):
But with the hamsterring issue, who've seen that way?

Speaker 7 (35:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (35:04):
Yeah, I mean I don't think they will, probably right
up until the end. Same with Devonte Adams. But I
have a hard time thing neither of them are going
to play in this game. We're seeing how And I've
seen something you wrote about the thirteen personnel that Sean
McVay runs. Does that play into the hands of the
Seahawks defense or is that something they're not necessarily used to.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Well, they're used.

Speaker 8 (35:27):
To it now playing the Rams for a second time,
But this is the first year that McDonald or that.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
McVeigh has done it. He's run according to.

Speaker 8 (35:36):
Some metrics out there that measure this stuff, he's run
at two hundred and thirteen times in thirteen personnel this year.
In the eight seasons before this, he ran one hundred
and thirty times, so he's done it almost twice as
much in thirteen games as he did in eight years.
He's completely zigg well. The rest of the league zactly.

(35:56):
The rest of the league has been chasing mcvay's schemes
where okay, small guys, horizontal running, Pukunakua, Cooper cup running,
horizontal routes, defensive stretch from sideline to sideline. That was
what the league has been catching up to for better
part of the decade since McVeigh took over that job.

(36:17):
And now he's flipping and going big. And Juliane Love
mentioned this to me the other day that probably next
year two everyone else will catch up to him again
and everyone will be running thirteen personnel and he'll have
another answer for that. I do think it plays into
the Seahawks strength. I do think it puts Nick emon
Worriy on the spot. And what better guy on the
team that'd be on the spot than Nick even worry

(36:39):
he guy does everything and everything really well. Nicky.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
He won't get it because he.

Speaker 8 (36:45):
Just got in the league and he missed three games.
He should be an All Pro this year, and there
aren't many All Pro rookies that play five positions and
he does. And I knowing McDonald the way I do,
and the fact that he didn't even line up a
defensive end against the I think looking back to McDonald
put even Worry.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
At defensive end against the Vikings.

Speaker 8 (37:05):
To make McVeigh spend time having to scout that and
come up with an answer for that. This week, he
even worry has been better than we I McDonald anyone
thought he was going to be because of his adaptability
and how quickly he's grasped every single thing McDonald has
given him.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
He's gonna give him something new tomorrow. I mean, hell,
he might be.

Speaker 8 (37:26):
Playing nose tackle tomorrow, but they will bring up something
tomorrow that he hasn't seen. McVeigh has not seen from
his defense and Nick Emon Worry's gonna be involved in it.

Speaker 6 (37:35):
Yeah, I was going to ask you about that to
close out our conversation today. You've hinted about how Mike
McDonald might have a couple of tricks up this leeve
that he's been saving all season long for you know,
this moment in the year. I know if you mentioned
specifics you'll probably get in trouble.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
So in general, though, what.

Speaker 6 (37:51):
Do you what what should we expect that we haven't
seen before?

Speaker 8 (37:56):
Nick even worry all over, maybe in the middle of
the defense more than he's been. He's mainly been on
the edge, including in his defensive end cameo, but he's
mostly been on the edge. Think about his blitzing from
outside slot corner. He may be more of an inside lineback.
He's done inside linebacker with Ernest Jones is the only two.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Off the ball.

Speaker 8 (38:17):
Guys, I think you're gonna see Devin Witherspoon blitz more.
He hasn't blitzed a lot this year, but because some
of that's because of even Waror's presence. But you may
see them switch and have the Witherspoon blitz and even
Worriy come off the line and play a little more
coverage than he's been doing. And they still have this
wild card as they keep mixing a match. And now

(38:38):
the new wildcard is three cornerbacks rotating them. Rieke Woad
will come in at times and be the outside corner
with Witherspoon. Other drives it'll be job in Witherspoon. Other
drives it'll be Woolen and job. I think you might
see more dying tomorrow night, and if they go dine,
Kyrien Williams might have thirty carries. That's how McVeigh answers

(39:01):
sub packages, nickel and dime. He runs and he tries
to take you out of nickel and dimes so he
can throw again. And he's got to back Hian Williams
and an offensive line that can get guys out of
sub packages. The problem is Seahwks never get out of
sub packages. They play him ninety percent of the time.
So because they have Emon Worry as basically a linebacker

(39:21):
sometimes even a defensive end, McDonald's not going to get
out of nickel and dime because of Eemon Worry. And
that's gonna So there's this chess game within the chess
game that mcvay' is not used to. He's not used
to running team, not being able to run teams out
of nickel and dime, but Seattle's not getting.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Out of it.

Speaker 8 (39:40):
That's the fascinating stuff I'm looking for tomorrow is how
much Eman Warrior's on the field, how much Woolen and
even Warrior on the field, and how much that gives
Mike McDonald all kinds of options between coverages and blitzes.

Speaker 6 (39:54):
Greg Bell are Seahawks Insider roundtable tomorrow. I mean it's
pretty big game. I mean the invitation is open to
come down here and be in studio with us tomorrow.

Speaker 7 (40:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah, I'm just letting you know I might have to.

Speaker 8 (40:05):
Do that if I don't need an arc to get downtown.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
It's by the way, I feel.

Speaker 8 (40:11):
Really, I hope some of you listening aren't in the
way of the waters and the levees breaking and the
pictures from down south in the Auburn Ken area and
hearts out to those people. That's it's been wild stuff.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah, looking forward tomorrow.

Speaker 8 (40:25):
And you know you always tease me that I always
say that these aren't big game.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
This is a big game. Yeah, that's a regular season game.

Speaker 7 (40:32):
Go, this is a big this is huge.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
All right, man, Well we'll talk to you tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
All right, Happy Wednesday? Thanks all right.

Speaker 6 (40:38):
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doesn't mean it's going to be the biggest game of
the regular season. That forty nine Ers game still looms,
and so that might end up being the biggest game
of the year to close out the regular season. But
for right now, what's in front of us, this thing
is huge. And I've been saying now for several weeks
that I thought the Seahawks outplayed the Los Angeles Rams

(41:46):
the last time that they met, and the only difference
was that the Rams won the game twenty one to nineteen.
I mean, that's what it's about, is winning the game.
So I gave them credit for winning the game, but
I went back to my oats from that contest, and
I have all sorts of notes, and the very last
thing that I wrote on the page Rams twenty one

(42:08):
Seahawks nineteen great game underlined and then I.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Wrote, We're better. That's what I wrote right there.

Speaker 6 (42:15):
And I do believe that, and I look at the
numbers and that game, the Seahawks had twenty six first
downs to the Rams twelve more than twice. We had
seventy nine total plays to their fifty. We kept the
ball for thirty eight minutes to their twenty two. Matt Stafford,

(42:36):
who's been the MVP of the season to this point
in the year, you gonna have your Drake May to me,
Matt Stafford's been the MVP of the National Football League.
Mike McDonald's defense held him to one hundred and thirty
passing yards. Sam Darnold had two hundred and seventy nine
that day. I mean, that is just that's just working
them four hundred and fourteen yards to two hundred and

(42:58):
forty nine. We were seven for sixteen on third down,
they were two for eleven. I mean, those statistics said
that we should Those statistics say that we should have
won the game by fourteen to fifteen points, yeah, against
the Los Angeles Rams, and yet we lost by two.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
That was the Sam Donald interception game. That was for interceptions.

Speaker 6 (43:19):
That's the cliche that we're not allowed to use on
Fridays when we preview a game that, no matter how
well it might go, if you lose a turnover battle
four to one against a good team that is well coached,
you're probably going to lose that football game, no matter
how much better that you play than them. But the
numbers all suggest that on the road, the Seahawks were

(43:40):
the better team that day. The difference is that the
Rams came away with the victory. And so you know,
here we sat with a chance for a little bit
of revenge. I realized that weather is going to play
a factor and that that could, you know, certainly alter
the game, may lead to even more turnovers from Sam Darnald.
But I'm just gonna say it, this is reckless at breakfast, right,
we lose the turnover battle, we are winning this game

(44:02):
tomorrow and we are winning.

Speaker 7 (44:03):
The NFC West. Well, there's a good chance.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
I mean, obviously you can't do it the way that
you did last game, and I wouldn't expect that to
be the case, I wouldn't expect Sam Darnold to turn it.

Speaker 7 (44:14):
Over four times. And yeah, I think that you're right there.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
I mean I think on any given day, I think
either one of these teams, this is one of those
coin flips to me of which team's gonna win. Now,
you got to go out ex execute game plan. You
obviously can't be giving them, you know, I think what
it was the first interception ended up where they ran
it back to the three yard line. I mean, so
that was an immediate advantage rams right there. And like
you said, when you come out on the end and

(44:38):
you're just lost by two, you can find one or
two plays, just two of those interceptions, and you're probably
going to end up winning that ball game because two
of them gave them a short field that they ended
up scoring touchdowns on. So I think that, yeah, you
go out there and play the game. If everything was
the same, right, like, you play the same game you
played last time, they played the same game they played.

Speaker 7 (45:00):
You just don't turn it over four times.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
You can still cough it up once possibly or twice
you end up winning that ball game. That said is
both teams are going to make the adjustments. This is
The beauty of it to me is that they hired
Mike McDonald to figure out the Sean McVay thing and
the Shanahan thing. He seems like he did it last game,
just didn't come out on the winning edge of it.

Speaker 7 (45:20):
Now you got to figure out a way to come
out on the win too.

Speaker 9 (45:22):
And that's the one thing that we heard so many
times after that loss, right, is oh, if only they
would have turned it over only three times, like they
really would have had a they probably would have won
the game if they would have only had three turnovers.
And so I do agree, it'll be interesting to see
just how well Sam can perform and how much weather
is a factor.

Speaker 6 (45:42):
And all, I'm perfectly willing to lose a turnover battle
every single week by one turnover if it means that
my quarterback is playing confidently and is dropping back and
zipping the.

Speaker 10 (45:56):
Ball, and it sure seemed like he was in that
first game.

Speaker 6 (45:59):
And look, as many turnovers as Sam Donald has committed
this year, I don't want to trade the way that
he's played to get those turnovers back.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
I just don't.

Speaker 6 (46:08):
I think that it's been a far We've benefited far
more in Seattle from Sam Donald's aggressive play than what
we've been hurt by it. On that particular day, there
was no getting around it. Sam Donald cost the Seahawks
the game against the Los Angeles Rams because it was
minus three. Yeah, I mean, there wasn't a time where

(46:29):
I mean, certainly Mike Holmgren tried to rein in Brett Favre.
We don't want to lose the turnover battle by two
turnovers or more every game because you've decided to go
out here and think you can throw passes through brick
walls and have them come out on the other side
in Sterling Sharp's hands.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
He had to rein that in, but he never reined
it into the point that he wanted.

Speaker 6 (46:52):
To take the fire out of the stallion. And that,
to me is what we're dealing with with Sam Donald.
You can't lose the turnover battle by minus three. You
can't turn the ball over four times against quality teams.
You can't even turn the ball over four times against
bad teams.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
In this league.

Speaker 6 (47:10):
And yet I don't want you to change the thing
you play the way that you've been playing, because I
think we're gonna benefit a lot more from aggressive Sam Darnold,
Even living with a turnover or two tomorrow night, than
we are if he comes out and we just try
to establish the run all day and Sam plays a
game where he's trying to avoid.

Speaker 7 (47:30):
Interceptions, I mean, yeah, you don't want him play and scared.
I agree with you on that.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
I think not all turnovers are created the same, right,
You can't. Don't be going down there and doing what
we watched Gino do the last couple of years, which
is when you got points on the board, throwing erratic
passes or unadvised passes, and don't do it when you're
backed up against your own goal line where all of
a sudden they have a three yards to score a
touchdown or they get the ball to twenty five.

Speaker 7 (47:53):
That's going to equate to trouble too.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
But you still want to be that gunslinger and then
understand when is the time that you just can't the gunslinger?

Speaker 7 (48:00):
All right?

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Coming up next?

Speaker 6 (48:03):
If this is a win tomorrow, I was asked this
question yesterday on our airwaves. Does that mean it's a
super Bowl or bust season for the Seahawks. We'll discuss
it on Chucking Buck Sports Radio ninety three point three
kJ RFM, Frida eight o'clock our here on this humpday.

(48:32):
We still will green Jacket draft, will preview the college
football playoff coming up in a little bit. Also, we
talked some NBA expansion that news coming out to yesterday
from Adam Silver as he was there present for the
NBA Cup, which is an awesome event.

Speaker 9 (48:52):
It's maybe one of the better events any sports league's
ever come up with in the way they do that
in season chairman, I love it other games and then
they get so into it that they paint those immaculate floors.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Right that aren't gaudy at all.

Speaker 10 (49:08):
Don't make me want to close my eyes.

Speaker 6 (49:10):
Yeah, don't give us a headache when we watch. It's
an awesome event. Keep doing it, Adam Silver. Everything you
touch turns to gold.

Speaker 7 (49:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (49:22):
Yeah, you're not even remotely alien.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Like, right right.

Speaker 6 (49:27):
The NBA Cup was a brilliant idea from a brilliant man.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Bravoser, brav you are on a roll. Keep the good
ideas coming. This statement was not red.

Speaker 6 (49:42):
So yes, we did get some news on that front
that a decision will be made in the year twenty
twenty six in regards to expansion. He's not going to
put Vegas and Seattle through that any longer. So we'll
talk about that a little bit later on in the hour,
start to get into it. But of course, we have
a monstrous football game that's going to take place tomorrow.

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I was asked on our very airwaves yesterday that if
this turns out to be a victory tomorrow, does it
turn into a super Bowl or bust.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Season for the Seattle Seahawks.

Speaker 6 (50:19):
I hadn't even given that any thought, just kind of
had to come up with an answer on the spot.
But my immediate reaction was no. And I do think
that there are teams that do face that. I think
that there are teams out there that super Bowl or busts.
I think the Kansas City Chiefs have won so much.
I don't think that finishing runner up or making it

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to the semifinals of the AFC is satisfying for them.
It probably is good if the Chiefs are on decline
that they're busting out right now. I think it's given
them a clear indication that, you know, we just can't
just adjust a few things. We probably do need to
make some serious change roster wise, maybe even coaching staff

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wise going forward. I think that has forced them into
a situation where hey, we win super Bowls around here,
and if we're not even close, we gotta reconvene. We
got to gather up, and we got to try to
see what it takes to get back on that path.
I think the Buffalo Bills are a super Bowl or
bust kind of team. I think that the Buffalo Bills

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don't win the Super Bowl this year, especially with the
Chiefs not in their path and potentially Lamar Jackson not
in their path and Joe Burrow not in their path.
If Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills don't win the
championship this year, then that mountain toward the championship looks
even larger.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Next season.

Speaker 6 (51:46):
The climb looks even steeper, the challenge looks even more daunting,
the pressure gets even greater on them, the weight and
their backpacks as they climb that ill gets even heavier,
and so for them, I think, I think it's boom
or bust. I think that anything short of a Super
Bowl championship for Buffalo this year is a disaster. It's

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a failure, and I don't like saying that. You know,
I think that a lot of fan bases get into
this habit of if we don't win a championship, anything
about a championship's a failure. I don't see that being
the case, and I don't see that being the case
with the Seahawks either. I think that they're ahead of
schedule and the Mike McDonald era. I think that they
win this they get home field advantage, they got a

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good chance to get into the super Bowl. But no
matter how this thing ends this year, sure it can
have the taste of disappointment, but I think that you
start next season feeling like, man, we might be the
team to beat.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
I think it's a growth period for them.

Speaker 6 (52:45):
Even if you lose your last game of the year
this year, I think this has been a highly successful
year and it points in such a positive direction for
this team that No, I don't think this is a
super Bowl or bust season for this football team.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
I don't think it's a super Bowl or bus team either.
I mean a season for this team. I think the
team very likely could go all the way. To me,
I think there's you know, when you're just talking about
some of the teams Kansas City, I think theirs is
legitimately win the Super Bowl, or it's not what we
think we're capable of.

Speaker 7 (53:17):
I think they're the only team that probably has a
win Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
I think Buffalo Bills would be like a they need
to get there, especially now that they don't have Mahomes
in the way, which has been the bugaboo and then
the occasional burrow or one time burrow and that them
jumping up there and sniper and knocking.

Speaker 7 (53:33):
The Chiefs off that pedestal.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
I think this is the best opportunity for them, and
yet I don't see. I think maybe the Rams might
be the next closest thing, but that's because they have
won one recently, and they have a veteran quarterback and
aging quarterback. They kind of that's not a new coach.
They know who they are, they know what they bring
to the table. They feel probably coming into the season, hey,

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let's do what we got to do and see how
maybe some of the bounces go here and there, and
if we find ourselves, you know, up there in the
top of the NFC. You know, we feel like we
have a good as good of a chance as anybody
else in the NFC to get to the Super Bowl.
But I don't know for sure if they're even in
that category that I would put the Chiefs prior to
the season starting of it's win it all or not.

Speaker 7 (54:17):
I think this.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
I think the Seahawks, it could a lot could weigh
in how the next three games go of whether or
not this is a I think this team, no matter
how the next three games go, is going to be
in the playoffs, and they're they're going to be a
dangerous team because of how good that defense is, even
if they have to go on the road. We've seen
under Mike McDonald the going on the road doesn't seem
to be a giant issue now.

Speaker 7 (54:38):
Going on the.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
Road in whether during in January against playoff caliber teams
is a different thing than going to New Orleans, you know,
for a game or something along those lines. So to me,
I think that the Seattle I think the Seahawks have
played themselves with three weeks left to the end of
the season into I could legitimately see how in the

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next two weeks we're talking about this is the best
team in the NFL possibly and so getting to the
super Bowl. Anything less than that could be disappointing, but
not necessarily bust.

Speaker 7 (55:08):
And winning the super Bowl is a whole different ball game.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
I don't think there's anybody that's left in the equation
that should be thinking, if we don't win the super.

Speaker 7 (55:15):
Bowl, it's a failed season.

Speaker 4 (55:17):
I just I think there's really one team and that's
Kansasy Chiefs that maybe should have even Buffalo in that.

Speaker 6 (55:23):
Yeah, I put Buffalo in that because if Buffalo doesn't
win it this year, like I said, everything looks more
difficult for them, and I think Sean McDermott does get fired.
I think that they would get to the end of
the season and say where can't win it With Sean McDermott.

Speaker 4 (55:36):
If they got to no super Bowls and lost the
super Bowl, you think they'd fire him. Maybe not, that's
still a step, that's still a step in the direction.
That's why I mean, I don't think there's is win
the super Bowl. Let's get to the super Bowl.

Speaker 6 (55:48):
Or I would bet you that Buffalo is really rethinking
how they built the roster.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
I guarantee you.

Speaker 6 (55:54):
I won't guarantee it if they made it to the
super Bowl, but even if they lost to the super Bowl,
I think Sean McDermott's jobs and I think this might
be his last chance to try to pull the show
that he's the guy he's facing a lot of criticism
this year and he for wasting Josh Allen's prime. And
I think for sure the general manager is on blast, like,

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get the guy some damn weapons, you.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Know what I mean? Weapons? Ye, so James Cooks a weapon.

Speaker 6 (56:21):
But I do believe that they would do some serious
soul searching and make serious changes where comparing that to
the Seahawks, they could lose their last three games. Mike
McDonald's our head coach next year, John Schneider is our
general manager. Sam Donald's our quarterback. Jsn's our number one receiver,
and everybody in the organization feels like they are ahead

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of schedule.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
And are Yeah.

Speaker 6 (56:46):
I mean, if you lost all three, that would be
a crutching way in this season, not even making the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
I'm not really even entertaining that scenario.

Speaker 6 (56:55):
But even if you lost your last game, no matter
when it occurs, I think the Seahawks feel like, man, we.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
Are on a great path right now versus Buffalo.

Speaker 6 (57:06):
I think they could win, lose the Super Bowl and
still consider getting rid of their coach, making some major
changes to the roster and so forth.

Speaker 9 (57:15):
Well, and I think a lot of it has to
do with the expectations going into the season, Right, Buffalo
was expected to win twelve thirteen something games. Right, they
were expected to do really well. And so as now
you have no, you don't have the Chiefs to deal
with your super Bowl or bust plans kind of got
bust here, really right, Your.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
It's definitely changed the equation.

Speaker 9 (57:37):
Yeah, your expectations are higher and if you don't at
least make it to the super Bowl because now you
don't have the Chiefs to knock you out, I mean
that's what their fans are thinking.

Speaker 10 (57:46):
I'm sure.

Speaker 9 (57:46):
Whereas the Seahawks, I think you've now put yourself into
the playoffs or bust. If you don't make the playoffs
at this point, people are going to be really mad.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
I give you that.

Speaker 9 (57:55):
But as far as super Bowl or bust, now, now
coming through this season and surprise kind of that we've
had of how well this team has done, I think
you go into next year and you're you're now going
to be really looking at that, is it a possible
super Bowl or bust ahead of going into next season
just because you've had this success And now this is

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Mike McDonald. That would be Mike McDonald's third year now
your expectations are a whole lot higher.

Speaker 6 (58:19):
But I think right now I having having this season
and then you start next year, Yeah, it is I
don't know if it's Super Bowl or bust, but.

Speaker 9 (58:26):
It's an expectation of at least to the NFC Championship.

Speaker 6 (58:30):
Where yeah, this is you're you're you're getting the team together,
and it is we're winning.

Speaker 7 (58:34):
The Super Bowl.

Speaker 6 (58:35):
Yeah, sure, that's that's going to be your start to
next season.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
You're right.

Speaker 6 (58:39):
If you collapse completely and somehow statistically marvelously don't make
the playoffs, uh that that would be crushing. Yeah, considering
where you are at this point, and then maybe there
is a little bit of of soul searching. But assuming
you make the playoffs, which means you've got to win
one of your next three games.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
After that point you lose, I still.

Speaker 6 (59:00):
Think that you're feeling awesome going into the offseason about
the direction that you're in. But you're right, the expectations
at the beginning of next year, they're ratcheted up, and
that's what you want. You want the expectations, and I
think that they're like, bring them all on. I think
that that's where the organization is right now.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
But I do think.

Speaker 6 (59:20):
I mean, Baltimore Ravens, they're a team that if they
don't somehow get into the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
This year, a massive disappointment.

Speaker 6 (59:27):
Massive disappointment, and I think they entertain some changes organizationally
this offseason. I don't think they would take that lightly
in Baltimore. Pittsburgh right now is obviously going through something
where I don't know if it's Super Bowl or bust,
but they're I mean, they are booing one of the
most successful destined for the Hall of Fame head coaches.

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They're chanting fire Tomlin every single home game for three
quarters at a time. So obviously Pittsburgh's going through a
little bit of do we have to kind of shake
things up? Do we have to change things up this offseason?

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Where I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:00:05):
See the Seahawks being a part of that conversation whatsoever,
barring we go zero to three and somehow don't miss
don't make the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
Yeah, which is I mean, there have to be some
crazy opposite of a miracle that would have to happen.

Speaker 7 (01:00:19):
So I mean, I'm with you on that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
I mean, I just think that right now, you're sitting
in year two of Mike McDonald and you're feeling good
about it. You're feeling great about it, okay, and then
you have a giant game coming tomorrow, another big game,
another important game against a team that's shooting for a
playoff spot in the Carolina Panthers. And then you're the
final one where you book in the season against the Niners,
who you know, one of your division rivals and they're

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fighting for a spot in the playoffs as well. I mean,
I think that right now, it's like playoff football starting.
It starts tomorrow for the Seahawks, and it's one of
those you've got to go out and play your style
of football, right and we know.

Speaker 7 (01:00:53):
What it is.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
This isn't we're getting towards the end of the season.
This defense is going to keep team in the game.
You're going to keep your team in the game. The
offense can be absolutely potent. I mean they're you look
at all their different numbers and they're tops in the
leagues and like points per play, so basically they can
strike and they can strike quick. And then sometimes what

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we basically talked about multiple times throughout the show today,
they revert back to. But we got to make sure
they know we'll still just grind it out on them.
Well yeah, or you could just keep hitting JSN who's
uncoverable apparently, and just keep You know, now you're finally
getting a rapport with Rashi Jied. Those two and Cooper
Cup can be a nice little blanket that, you know,
for a third down conversion here and there. I think

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that the team needs to just figure out, this is
what our identity is, and regardless of how they do that,
we know that this team now is heading in the
right direction, that you've got the coach you want. If
people want to doubt Sam Darnold whether or not he's
your franchise guy, well he's your franchise guy this year.
You're riding or dying with him right now. I don't
think he's going anywhere next year unless for some reason

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you got in on a borough sweepstakes. Be the only
thing you think you're upgrade, and otherwise you're not drafting
the quarterback and replacing Sam Darnolds. I think you could
have some roster shakeup, you know, some places on the line.
Possibly who knows what they're thinking with Ken Walker. I mean,
maybe he just isn't Maybe he isn't the guy that's
supposed to be toting.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
The Rockets anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
Ken Walker's back here next Yeah, well he's on the
end last year of his contract, so you're going to
have some roster movement.

Speaker 7 (01:02:22):
But everybody has roster movement.

Speaker 4 (01:02:23):
I think in general, though, the point of they know
who they are, they know what they got, and they
are happy with where they're at. That doesn't change in
the slightest if they don't get to and or win
the Super Bowl.

Speaker 12 (01:02:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:02:35):
I think the Chargers are a similar team to the Seahawks.
Second year of a new coaching regime. Showed progress in
the first year, showed even more progress in the second year.
Looks like they are destined for the playoffs. If they
crash and burn somehow before the end of the season, sure,
that's going to be crushingly disappointing. But I think that
the Los Angeles Chargers would get to the end of

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the year and say to themselves, love our head coach,
love our quarterback. He's still young and maybe in and
is in his prime right now. Man, if we would
add just healthier offensive lineman this this this season, who
knows what we could have accomplished this year. But I
think that that's a similar story to what the Seahawks

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are operating the Chargers. No matter how they lost in
the playoffs, I still think that they're celebrating their season
and feeling like, man, we are just scratching the surface.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Fellas. Let you know, next year we went it off.

Speaker 6 (01:03:34):
Just as Ashley said, I think that that's the start
of the Chargers season next year.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Yeah, you always put on the bulletin bore.

Speaker 6 (01:03:40):
We're not going to eliminate any kind of goal like
the super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
We're here to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 6 (01:03:45):
Right, But I don't know if you really believed that
when the season started, if you're the se if you're
a Seahawks fan or a Charger fan, or even somebody that's.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Inside the building.

Speaker 6 (01:03:55):
Next year, though, that's what you're saying, and you are
meaning it, and it is on the chalk board for
a reason. You believe the progress you've made in two
years in this new regime, the quarterback that you have,
the things that you've learned, the roster adjustments that undoubtedly
every team will make to fine tune the product. You're
heading into next year feeling like we are a super

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Bowl team and we will accept nothing else.

Speaker 9 (01:04:20):
Yeah, we did those tiers at the beginning of the
season where we put every team in it, and the
Seahawks were I think that we decided, most of us
decided they were underestimated. We thought they were going to
be We know we're better than other people think we are.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Something along those lines.

Speaker 9 (01:04:33):
Yeah, and I agree they are better than most people
I think thought they were at the beginning of the season.
And I think it would have been unrealistic for anyone
to have Super Bowl expectations going into Mike McDonald's second year.
Now it's been an awesome, wonderful, pleasant surprise to see
how well they've been doing. But yeah, there's no way
in hell you go into next season not having super
Bowl expectations.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
In the meantime, why not win the Super Bowl?

Speaker 10 (01:04:56):
Yeah, do it when nobody expected you to.

Speaker 6 (01:04:59):
I was, I mean, I think I picked the Seahawks
to go twelve and five, which was pretty aggressive.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Yeah. Maybe I said eleven and six with a chance
to go twelve and five.

Speaker 6 (01:05:08):
Remember, given myself a win margin ones. Yeah, so I
had I had really high expectations, but even I did
not think at any moment the nation would be having.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
The suggestion, is this the best team in the NFL.

Speaker 6 (01:05:25):
Now, usually what they say in these national broadcasts, this
might be the best team in the NFC. You don't
hear them say a lot that this might be the
best team in the entire league.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
But you've heard it all.

Speaker 6 (01:05:36):
You've heard it every week, and man, during Sunday's broadcast,
you must have heard it fifteen times from the broadcast team,
that this might They're just throwing it in just casually.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Yeah, when we're on your face and what might be
the best team in the NFC.

Speaker 6 (01:05:49):
I didn't think we were going to hear the nation
have that conversation about this year's version of the Seahawks.
But yeah, I think we are in that converse. And
part of it is that Philadelphia is not as good
as they were a year ago. And part of that
is Kansas City is not as good as they were
a year obviously, not as good as what they were
a year ago. Part of it is Baltimore's not the

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team that we thought they were going to be. Part
of it is that the Broncos and Patriots have the
two best records in the National Football League. And I
don't think that I expected them to be in that
conversation either. But here we sit in year number two
of the Mike McDonald era, and we have had a
chunk of this season where not just local bias, but national.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Guys who are always.

Speaker 6 (01:06:38):
Shy of giving Seattle the credit that they deserve have
entered them into the conversation as is this really the
best team in the league. I think that's an accomplishment
in its own right.

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
Oh, it's definitely an accomplishment in its own right. I think
this season in general, though, like you were, just kind
of outlying, is part of the reason why there's been
a lot of teams that have been kind of thrust
into that conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:07:02):
The Rams were for a minute and it seemed like
they're for about four or five weeks. Whoever got that
Moniker bestowed upon them for the week leading up to it,
because how dominant their performance was and they're leading their division,
they would fall on their face. They would have a
backsliding moment to some degree. And I think it's in
large part because a lot of people don't believe that
Denver's for real, or that New England is for real,

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and the second year of Drake Mayn's first year with
Brabel there, and because the Chiefs most certainly the Chiefs
and the Eagles, the two teams that were fighting it
out last year, they've fallen back. One's fallen out at
this point, the other one's fallen back. It allows to
where like Waitte sold these other teams, and I think
the Rams are basically the consensus right now, the favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
They're been the most consistent of all the teams.

Speaker 7 (01:07:48):
And it's because they're good and because they're proven.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
Bo It's like now Buffalo coming back and beating New
England all of a sudden thrust them back into the conversation.

Speaker 7 (01:07:59):
A little bit more.

Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
Yeah, you know, so now all of a sudden, you're
getting back into if the it's just say, I don't
know how the whole thing's shake out across the board,
but if it just shakes out the way it is
kind of right now, or Buffalo ends up tight or
winning the the uh their division, if you end up
seeing that, I think most people.

Speaker 7 (01:08:16):
Are gonna be like I can see it being the
Rams and the.

Speaker 4 (01:08:19):
Buffalo Bills in the Super Bowl because of the provenness
and who they have at the quarterback position.

Speaker 7 (01:08:23):
It's something that more people believe in.

Speaker 6 (01:08:25):
To me, it's all signs point to Seattle versus the
Jaguars for the Super Bowl.

Speaker 7 (01:08:30):
Wow, I don't know what signs you're right?

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
A bold statement there, all right? Coming up next NBA
News yesterday.

Speaker 6 (01:08:38):
Yeah, Adam Silver, it's about time to you know, expand
or get off the pot.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
We'll discuss it.

Speaker 6 (01:08:45):
Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ RFM, Good Wednesday morning,
nine o'clock hour here on the eve of Seahawks Rams.
We'll certainly be talking about it more before the show

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comes to a close. And tomorrow we're all about it
right here on Chucking Back in the morning, Ashley, Bucky
Chuck with you here on this Wednesday. But we have
another major sporting event that gets started on Friday. The
College Football Playoff is nearly here, second ever season for
a true playoff.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Tournament for college football.

Speaker 7 (01:09:28):
I love it.

Speaker 6 (01:09:29):
And it'll start with Oklahoma and Alabama on Friday night
at five o'clock. And so today we will muster up
the strength to preview for you the entire tournament field.
It's our bracket jacket, which we started just a year ago,
so we're going to get to that in a moment.
But we also have some hardware to hand out. It's
been a long time since we've done this. We haven't green.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
Jacketed in a while. It's been a minute.

Speaker 6 (01:09:52):
Yeah, no kidding, I mean no, we don't even we
don't even keep in touch anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
I've missed it so much.

Speaker 6 (01:09:59):
Well, yeah, you and I aren't performing so well these days,
but we do have to hand the green jacket to
our own Christopher Kid.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Thanks Bud for the winter. Huh's going to happen? Maybe
you certainly earned it. I'll say this.

Speaker 6 (01:10:14):
I mean, I think in our college Big ten college
football fantasy league this year, I think you caught a
lot of breaks. You had the healthiest team, but you
also drafted the best. I mean, there's no getting around it.
Your first round pick was the only bad pick you made,
Nick Singleton from Pennstanva.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
He wasn't a bad pick.

Speaker 6 (01:10:32):
But then you had Mackay Lemon in the second round,
who was fantastic this year, Denzel Boston in the third round,
he was fantastic. And then the pick they won it
for you, the pick from Heaven. At the fourth round,
Christopher Kid picks the Heisman Trophy winner Fernando Mendoza and
had him all season long.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
That's some good picking right there. I'll give it to you.
Thank you.

Speaker 14 (01:10:53):
I didn't even know who he was, well I did.
He had a solid season last year. I didn't think
he would become a Heisman winner. Just thought he would
have a decent season.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
And boy did he blow that out the water. Yeah, yeah,
he really did.

Speaker 6 (01:11:05):
So you had nine hundred and ninety the nine and
eighty points. It ended up being very close. This is
the closest from the top to bottom that we've ever
had in our Big Ten Fantasy league. Bucky ended up
finishing second with ninety nine. I finished third with nine
to twenty two, and then Ashley with nine to nineteen.
So all very close. This year was a it was

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a fun season. Now we had a lot of injury aggravations.
Thank you, j Yeah, exactly, Thank you, Darius Taylor. I
hope you fail at life.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
Seahawks with the third round pick select.

Speaker 6 (01:11:41):
I hope, I hope you don't make it to the
National Football League. You get a desk job and get
fired within two weeks. Wow, that's what I hope.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
He was not listening to any sports radio.

Speaker 7 (01:11:52):
The West of third in our little draft.

Speaker 6 (01:11:54):
I hope you get injured by a stapler incident sitting
at your desk, at your job.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
At the hest.

Speaker 10 (01:12:01):
He didn't say paper cut because that would be just
straight violence.

Speaker 6 (01:12:04):
Well, I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Yeah, not my
worst enemy. So Chris Kid, Yes, we'll see if you
can wear that all winter long. Actually, you might want
to take that off your shoulder.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Yeah, it really will.

Speaker 6 (01:12:18):
Our college football preview draft was where we picked the
Heisman Trophy winner and the national champion, the Big Ten champion,
and then how many wins that you Dub would get.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Now, I would say three.

Speaker 6 (01:12:32):
Of us were terrible, Yeah, terrible at this Bucky was okay,
but okay compared to how terrible we were.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
He ran away with it.

Speaker 6 (01:12:41):
So Bucky won the Green Jacket. He nailed you Dub's
win total with eight and he took in the first round,
so you got to give him credit for that. It's
not like he just backed his way into it. He
was like, I want that number eight, and I'm gonna
take it with my first pick. So he did that.
He also has Ohio State actually pretty good, Ohio State
winning the national champion ship and right now they're the favorite.

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He had Oregon winning the Big Ten. They came close,
and he had arch Manning winning the Heisman Trophy and
that didn't come close. But then again, he was the
favorite at the time we were drafting, so Bucky ran
away with this one.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
So Bucky, congratulations, thank you.

Speaker 7 (01:13:16):
It feels good. It feels good.

Speaker 4 (01:13:18):
You didn't take Fernando Mendoza in the in the Heisman.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
Yeah, you son of a gun. You you got jokes,
You're funny.

Speaker 7 (01:13:25):
I should have.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Yeah, I'm sure he was like plus ten thousand. I
don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:13:29):
Congratulations, Bucky. I am very happy for you.

Speaker 4 (01:13:33):
Sound about as happy as you are about the NBA
mid season Cups.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
I am glad that came across correctly. Yeah, Ashley and
I got.

Speaker 6 (01:13:40):
To pick it up because Bucky's now got five Green
jackets for the new season. He's leading kid with his
third moves out of a tie for last place with me.
But Ashley started this season like gang bust. I think
he won like the first three.

Speaker 8 (01:13:55):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:13:55):
And so you you're in a you're in a drought,
last place, which.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
Is where I'm at.

Speaker 6 (01:14:02):
So it's the outstanding Green Jacket drafts that we've had
the Hockey Crack and Fantasy League.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
I'm leading that right now with seventy one points.

Speaker 6 (01:14:12):
Ashley has sixty eight, Kid with sixty two and Bucky
with forty eight, and I've got Jayden Schwartz out, So Ashley,
there's your chance to get here, right come yeah, to
overtake me midway through the season. Guess who's winning our
NBA one round the Horn, Ashley?

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
Guess who?

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Me?

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Bucky?

Speaker 7 (01:14:32):
Probably me?

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Kid?

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
Who do you think, Chuck? I'll go ahead, Chuck Fashley.

Speaker 6 (01:14:38):
Ashley I predicted with the Nuggets, the Rockets, Hawks, and
Lakers is at sixty eight and thirty two, six games
better than Kid right now, nine and a half games
better than Bucky right now, and twelve and a half
better than me because I took the Mavericks and not
the Pistons like an idiot. That's eleven and a half points.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
That's oh, that's horrible.

Speaker 6 (01:15:01):
And then our NFL over unders that we did at
the beginning of the year, it's all but salted away.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Bucky's all but won this thing.

Speaker 6 (01:15:08):
He took Seahawks over eight and a half, Broncos over
nine and a half, and even though he took the
Falcons over seven and a half, he's still probably gonna
run away. You're almost cinched it I mean, I think
I'm gonna punch three tickets, but the margin is just
not going to be significant where you already have margins
with the Broncos and Seahawks of two and a half

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games each.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
How are my Jets doing not good?

Speaker 6 (01:15:33):
You did not have a good draft, and kid, you've
got a chance to punch some tickets, but you've got
to have some things happen.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
Yeah, Miami wins some games here, Bud, help me out
or lose or lose. I would like for them to lose.
All right. That gets you up to speed with what
we've been doing.

Speaker 6 (01:15:49):
It's our Green Jacket draft do We do this every
once in a while to preview a major sporting event
and then we have a little bit of fun with it.
And so today we preview the college football Playoff.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
There won't be a draft day.

Speaker 6 (01:16:00):
Last year we introduced the green Jacket bracket, and so
we did this with the college basketball and then last
year the first ever college football tournament. And so today
we just reveal our green jacket brackets. Uh, and so
we've got them all filled out and we're ready to reveal.
So this is no draft, just a discussion, and we'll

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start with Bucky, Bucky, let's talk about your bracket.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
What do you got going over there?

Speaker 4 (01:16:27):
Well, I do have Oregon squeaking by jam You Settler. Yep,
that's a that's what I don't feel super confident in
that one, but I'm gonna go ahead and go with
the Ducks. They don't have to lay points on this,
just straight up, straight up.

Speaker 8 (01:16:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
And then I actually have Alabama beating Oklahoma.

Speaker 7 (01:16:49):
That might be a different one. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:16:50):
If you guys it's eight nine, then you can go
that's a coin cost right now. Oklahoma beat him earlier. Yeah,
but the Alabama out kind of outplayed them.

Speaker 4 (01:16:59):
I mean they as far as total yards, I think
it was like four oh six to two twelve. There
was a Oklahoma had picked six in that game, and
it still was tight at the end. I think Alabama
rights the ship and beats them. I'm taking Old Miss
against Tulane. I think that they will have a little
bit of a galvanizing thing from the Lane Kiffin experience,
at least in round one. And then I don't really

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know about the Miami Texas A and m I don't
I really haven't watched either of those teams, but I'm
cheering hard for Texas A and M for one reason
and one reason only.

Speaker 7 (01:17:30):
You're a huge Aggies Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:17:31):
Nope, nope, because I just don't like Miami now at all.
Going back on that one, I think Ohio State beats
whoever comes out of that matchup with Texas A and
M and Miami. I think Ohio State is the favorite,
and understandably so, whether or not they hold up.

Speaker 7 (01:17:47):
I think their defense is better than it was last year.

Speaker 4 (01:17:49):
I think the offense they have crazy weapons which show
up usually in big moments, so I have them advancing
to the semi finals. I think Georgia beats Old Miss.
They beat them just not too long ago, right towards
the end of the Rego season. I think they kind
of hold serve in that one. I think Indiana beats Alabama,
and then I'm taking Oregon beating Texas Town because I

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can't yep, that's straight home. Well wait till you hear
the rest of it, because then I have Oregon beating
Indiana in the semifinals. Yep, because this is the year.
I think the Ducks are getting healthy at the right time.
They basically the second half of the season definitely the
last two months have been without their top two or
three wide receivers and still figured out a way. They
got tons of running backs. Dante Moore has to play

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the way that he can, not the way that he has.
At times, I think that they can get past Indiana.
They deserve to lose. Come on, India, you're not that good.
And then I have Ohio State beating Georgia in their
side of the bracket. So it's Ducks versus Ohio State.
And at this point I'm not going back on it.
Give me the Ducks being the national championship.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
Man, I'm so glad I don't have to worry about
bucket winning this. Yeah, well we'll see.

Speaker 7 (01:18:54):
We'll see about that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
Quack that is. I guess you ride your team?

Speaker 6 (01:19:01):
Yeah, ride your team. I guess yes, you don't bail
on your team.

Speaker 4 (01:19:06):
Extra cheer for It's just nice to have my team
in it, you know. Yeah in the argument, there you go,
Joe Coo.

Speaker 7 (01:19:12):
I'm talking about. You know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (01:19:16):
Because Washington has not been in the Jim used.

Speaker 7 (01:19:18):
Purple and gold. You could take them all the way.

Speaker 6 (01:19:20):
I mean, if they win, all cheer hard, all right,
Ashley where do you differ on your board from BUCkies?

Speaker 9 (01:19:27):
You got a difference, so none in the first round.
I've got Oregon, Bama, Ole, Miss and Texas A and
M in the first round. Okay, second round, I got
Ohio State, Georgia, Indiana and Oregon.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
All right, so you're identical to this point, yeah, okay?

Speaker 10 (01:19:43):
And then I picked Indiana of course you did.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
Chalk, Yeah, chalky beat once already, I am choking twice
in the same season.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
That's what it's carved on the tree outside their house.
Five five iron loves chalking, straight chalk.

Speaker 9 (01:19:58):
And then I got yeah, I got Indie, Banna and
Ohio State meeting up in the semi finals in Indiana
getting them again.

Speaker 6 (01:20:03):
Oh look at that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
Okay, that's straight chalk? Yep. Did you take one upset?
The entire time I did not know, Well you ever
heard chalking?

Speaker 9 (01:20:16):
Yeah I did, because technically Alabama is an upset over.

Speaker 4 (01:20:19):
Oklahoma as an upset over Texas tech ranking wise.

Speaker 6 (01:20:23):
Okay, seed, all right, all right, all right, I take
that back. You're just chalk, like, yeah, you're not chalky
or Trump.

Speaker 9 (01:20:30):
I'm very's in my mouth five iron less chalk like, yeah,
who doesn't yep.

Speaker 6 (01:20:36):
All right, all right, kid, lay it out for me,
play it out before us.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
What do you got?

Speaker 14 (01:20:41):
I have one upset, and that would be Miami over
Texas and m oh boy, sorry, you'll be okay though, Bucky.
Do anything else though? Oregon, Oklahoma, Ole miss and then
the So.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
You do have Oklahoma that's different than theirs. Actually, you're right,
it is different than theirs, but it's the favorite.

Speaker 14 (01:20:58):
So I go with the eighty to Leastklahoma, and then
I got Texas Tech beating Oregan.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Sorry Buck, oh new heisily.

Speaker 14 (01:21:06):
Fake Mahomes is going to do something special or right?
Should maybe the one of be Mahomes? How do you
want to phrase it? I'll probably play okay, hopefully doesn't
get hurt though, right my goodness, Well the fake Mahomes
isn't there yet.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
He'll be there next year, that's true. Yeah, give me.
This was tough, but I'm going with Indiana.

Speaker 6 (01:21:22):
Hey, I actually think that is going to be a
tough game. I think Oklahoma place, if Oklahoma gets there,
even if Alabama gets there, I think Indiana all three.
If they're gonna win the national championship, they're gonna earn it.
They don't have an easy game.

Speaker 14 (01:21:35):
True that I did pick Georgia and Ohio State to
meet up in the semi which Ohio State will win.
And I got Indiana, and then I got Ohio State,
saying we want revenge, and they get the revenge.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
You got them. We went back to back, so you
got the Ohio State buck guys. All right, it's a
little different.

Speaker 6 (01:21:52):
It's not like the sixty eighteen field in college basketball.
I mean, there's a danger that you know, two of
us we're going to pick the exact same jacket when
you only have twelve teams and you've got such clear
cut favorites in a few of those games. But I'm
glad there's at least some variants, so we will have
a green jacket winner.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
All right.

Speaker 6 (01:22:10):
I do have a couple of upsets, if you want
to call them that, in the first round, I do have.
I'm taking Miami over Texas A and M Nick Saban
has been hot on Miami all season long, just a
couple of weeks ago, says if they get in the tournament,
they're as dangerous as anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
Those are the words of Nick Saban.

Speaker 6 (01:22:28):
They got incredible speed on defense, best pass rusher in
college football, best left tackle in college football. If Beck
doesn't turn the ball over, which has been an issue
in their losses but not in their wins. If he
doesn't turn the ball over, I think Miami is very dangerous.
So that I have them winning, I do have Old
Miss advancing, and I'm kind of rooting a little bit
for Old Miss. I'd like to see them win the

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national championship. Frankly, Okayan Kevin can show.

Speaker 10 (01:22:53):
I would like that too, Although doesn't he get a
bonus or something from you?

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
I don't care.

Speaker 6 (01:22:57):
I just want to see them celebrate without him. I
like it.

Speaker 7 (01:23:00):
I want to see Yeah, I wouldn't mind that, but
I don't want it.

Speaker 6 (01:23:03):
I'm taking Oklahoma over Alabama. I'm not sure Alabama is
playing great football right now. And Kaylin de Bor's calling
up plays for Bryce Underwood already, oh, drawing those on
the plane.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
Like, hey, what are you doing there, coach? Nothing nothing
going at my work?

Speaker 10 (01:23:20):
Yeah, coach? Why is everything in blue and yellow?

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
Why do you have I love Jordan Marshall on your notebook?

Speaker 7 (01:23:25):
Coach?

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
Why did you tattoo Ann Arbor on your butt?

Speaker 6 (01:23:28):
So I think the distracted Crimson tide loves to Oklahoma,
who's a very physical defensive team. I do have Oregon
over James Madison, but I do have Oregon losing to
Texas Tech. I liked Rick new Isel saying that yesterday
because I was already leaning that way.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
I think text Tech's the real deal. They might be
the best defensive team in the country. I mean, they're
outstanding on that side of the ball.

Speaker 6 (01:23:52):
Indiana, I have winning a squeaker over Oklahoma, Georgia taking
care of Ole Miss, and Ohio State moving past Miami,
and I got Ohio State and Texas Tech in the
national championship game, with the Buckeyes.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
Winning at all for the second year. I'll see you. Yeah,
it's all said and done down.

Speaker 6 (01:24:10):
I mean, they're just the narrow differences, xept for Bucky's
Bucki's got Oregon going all the way. That's noticeably different
than the rest of us. But it's going to come
down to, you know, one or two games. That's basically
what's going to come down to. So there you those
are Those are our predictions for the College Football Playoff.
Made the best team win. Somebody needs to steal that
green jacket off of Bucky Shoulders.

Speaker 7 (01:24:31):
Good luck with that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Yeah, it's missing shoulders already whould have thought.

Speaker 6 (01:24:35):
And as long as Oregon doesn't win the national championship,
it will be done on earth as it is in Heaven.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
Give us this day our daily bread.

Speaker 4 (01:24:43):
God doesn't like any of you, right, he loves us,
he doesn't like He doesn't don't even care for stadium,
that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
Remember we were having drinks and he just wouldn't stop
talking about it. I do remember. It was almost the punt. Yeah,
we were like, I'm just had to.

Speaker 9 (01:25:01):
Take the drink away from him because I thought he
was just spouting.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
Off a little too much about his Dislike.

Speaker 10 (01:25:05):
I'm like, you're supposed to love everybody even more.

Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
God, we don't even like Orgon, but this is making
us uncomfortable.

Speaker 10 (01:25:11):
Yeah, you're making us look good and making it look
like we love Orgon.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:25:15):
I realized that Dan Lanning is that. But you don't
have to call him that. Yeah, I mean, not out loud.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
We can all think it with our eyes. I mean
the sea really?

Speaker 8 (01:25:24):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (01:25:24):
Anyway, Coming up on the radio program here today, Al
Kaniski will join us to talk some krack and Hockey
Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ R f M. HI,

(01:25:45):
Good morning, Chuck buck Ashley with you every week at
this time we chat with the Crack and color analyst
right here on the flagship Sports Radio ninety three point
three kJ R f M.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
It is Al Kanisky. That is well with us, goomoning
out morning now were you? We're doing good. We're doing good.
Happy holidays to you by the way.

Speaker 6 (01:26:05):
And yeah, and I would imagine at this point there's
not a Cracking fan that's not wishing for a win
under the tree at this point nine losses out of ten.
Everett told us yesterday we had the conversation. He doesn't
think the team's playing poorly, they're just not winning games.
And I think that's exactly what happened again last night.
You face the best team in the NHL on paper,

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you hang with them, and yet you can't pull out
a win. What's it going to take to get this
thing over the top?

Speaker 11 (01:26:32):
Al, Yeah, it's frustrating because because what you start doing
is you analyze, you know, what went wrong, whether it's
you know, whether it's a nine to nothing loss or
a five three loss, what went wrong? And the Cracking
going into that third period up by a goal three
to two, you felt pretty good about that. If I
have said, hey, you know, in the next game against Colorado,

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I'll spot your three goals, it'll be three two going
to the third. You'd take that every single time. And
when you look at the the final score and you
say what went wrong, it just comes down to a
couple of mistakes. And that's the way it is with
this team right now. That's the way it is in playoffs.
So the senior they figure it out. The senior they'll
get moving back up the standings, and they're gonna have
to play that way if they do make the playoffs.

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So how they get it turned around. They've got to
look at those mistakes and they've got to clean them up.
It's it's a it's a bad clear there, it's a
it's a bad penalty here.

Speaker 7 (01:27:25):
It's it's you know.

Speaker 11 (01:27:26):
Uh, not backchecking correctly when you're trying to pick up
the you know the right guy, you take the wrong guy.
These things all come out and film, and they happen
every single time for both teams. But unfortunately, the Kraken
are are getting punished by them a little more frequently
than they're able to punish. The teams are playing and
let's let's face it. You know, last night it was Colorado,
the best team in the league, and they took advantage

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of those mistakes.

Speaker 4 (01:27:49):
Yeah, even though they hung with them, I mean towards
the end there there was that little scuffle where they
end up handing out what like four miners or double
miners or something, and they didn't show on TV. I
kind of saw on TV that Montour was kind of
slow to get up after he got involved in the
whole thing, and then he didn't return. Did you see

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anything that they didn't show on TV that would lead
us into any information at all on him?

Speaker 11 (01:28:15):
You know, in those skirmishes like that, obviously there's sticks
and there's you know, punches, and guys fall into the
ground and you just can't tell what happens to Monteur
and the replays that I've seen, other than maybe he
went down awkwardly and hit his head, which could be
the reason why he didn't return. Again, I'm speculating. We

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initially thought he went for stitches, which you know, for
a guy like Brandon Montour or any hockey player for
that man, that's not going to stop them from coming
back to the game. So I too, am a little
bit curious as to what the longer term outlook is
for Brandon Montour, but I'm guessing it had something to
do with, you know, not necessarily a punch, because that

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usually ends up either nothing or stitches at the worst,
but maybe going down to the ice, which is why
he didn't return.

Speaker 6 (01:29:05):
Al Kiniski is with US color Analyst for your Seattle
crack and losers for the ninth time and ten games
last night, five to three of the final score against
the Colorado Avalanche, who have lost only two games all
season long to this point.

Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
Your reaction to Lane Lambert.

Speaker 6 (01:29:23):
I know the team is scuffling right now, but he
held a press conference in which he didn't allow the
press to ask him any questions that looked for members
of the media.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
I find that a bit unacceptable.

Speaker 6 (01:29:38):
I don't think that we've got some hard hitting Seattle
media corps here that has.

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
Worn you know, Lane Lambert out after every loss.

Speaker 6 (01:29:46):
I think that's pretty cheap to kind of back away
from the questions that should be asked when you've lost
nine games out of ten.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
What was your reaction to that?

Speaker 11 (01:29:55):
Yeah, I wasn't in the room for it, but I
did watch start watching listen to it, and from I
can tell, there's a lot of frustration in his answers.
And it's not frustration at the Seattle media. It's frustration
on where the team is at right now. Like you said,
they're in all these games, they're just you know, they
can't get over the top. And I think that frustration
probably came out in that postgame media veil and that

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that's what you saw and heard there. I don't think
that'll happen again.

Speaker 4 (01:30:22):
Yeah, I am concerned just a little bit about how
long it's taken them to kind of reverse the trend here.
Yesterday was a moral victory as far as how well
they played, taking you know, ended up having the lead
against the team that's, you know, arguably the best team
in the NHL right now. But moral victories don't pay
the bills. Moral victories are not going to be enough.

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And so I mean, is there is there something besides
just they're just not finding that little thing at the
end that the other team does. Is there something in
general where it's like yesterday, I know, I was listening
to you and Fitz and you guys are talking about
how many block shots there was, and that to me
is just a toughness thing. I would imagine where you
just got to sit there and be like, yeah, go ahead, slapshot,

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I'll put my body in front of it. That doesn't
sound all that fun, and yet it was working and
it kept them in the game and even had the
lead into the third period. So is there a toughness
thing that you're seeing that they did yesterday even though
it didn't turn into a victory.

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (01:31:20):
Absolutely, I mean, Bucky, the block shots were two to one,
I think at the end of the second period, twenty
to ten for the cracking. And you know, on the
one hand, you might say, well, you wouldn't have to
block so many shots if you didn't give this team
so many shots on goal. But they knew they were
facing this high octane Colorado Avalanche team, and you knew
that guys like Nathan mckinn and kill mccarr were going
to be firing the fucks. So your choice is, you know,

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accept the fact that they're going to put pucks on
it and let those tucks get through, or sacrifice your
body to get in front of them as often as possible.
And that's what they were doing. So absolutely there's a
toughness factor.

Speaker 7 (01:31:52):
There.

Speaker 11 (01:31:53):
They knew they had to sign up for that to
be in the game, and that's a big reason for
why they were in the game. I think, you know,
as far as moral victories go, I would put it
more as a forward looking victory, meaning that the last
four games here before Christmas, they're going to face Calgary,
San Jose, Anaheim, and LA and they're going to face

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those teams are all in the Pacific Division, All but
Calgary are above them in the standings. You have to
go out and win those games. And I think that
if you play the way you did last night, not
only will you put yourself in a position to win,
but you could have some statement wins in there.

Speaker 7 (01:32:30):
Now.

Speaker 11 (01:32:31):
Playing that way every single night, eighty two games a
year is not easy, but that I think they showed
themselves last night that they could play with this Colorado
Colorado Avalanche team. If they can play with them, they
can play with anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
All can eski with us a segment. It brought to
you every week by the Queen and Beer Hall. What
a fun place that is. I got to ask about
Shane Wright.

Speaker 6 (01:32:52):
Going into last night, he had not had a point
since the fourth of December. He had not had a
goal since November twentieth, and I think even what's most alarming,
seventeenth on the team in ice time. This was supposed
to be I thought, potentially our best offensive player this year.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
What he did finally score a goal last night.

Speaker 6 (01:33:15):
So what has been the problem that Lane Lambert has
had with giving Shane Wright Moore ice time? And do
you think that last night's goal may unlock him for
the year.

Speaker 11 (01:33:25):
Well, I think it's gonna help for sure. And I
think that each game that goes by where the Kraken
don't end up on the winning side, Lane Lambert says, Okay, well,
who were my best players from last game, Let's reward
them for some more ice time. I think that's what
you saw with Freddie Gudreau, who has moved up the
lineup from the fourth line. He was in the top
line wing last night. So Maddy Benier's, Mason marshmurt and

(01:33:46):
Jordan Eberley. That line that was kind of riding the
number one spot for at least half a dozen games,
if not most of the season, dropped into that second
line position. And so I think, you know, Lane Lambert
will continue to reward the guys that are are playing hard,
having success, and that line of Right, Newman and Coco
last night was one of your best, if not your

(01:34:07):
best line out there. I think the Stevenson line played
very well also, but uh, Yanni Newman was was was
was close on a couple of opportunities. He was involved
in that Shane Wright goal. He was he had he
had the last touch before Right put the puck in
the net. I think Coppo Coco is another guy that
you know, Lane Lambert is trying to unlock him as well.

(01:34:29):
I don't think he's having as productive of a season
as he had last season, and he knows it, and
so he's trying to figure that out as well. So
you get those three guys going and gosh, by the
end of the season, they could be your second or
first line. And and so I think it's small steps.
I think that that you know, we're all waiting for
a breakout, you know, six twelve games for Shane right,

(01:34:50):
but it hasn't come yet. And I think that last
night getting that goal gives him a little more confidence
going into this last four game set before Christmas, and
and that that could be a difference maker.

Speaker 6 (01:35:01):
All right, So finally at Calgary, I call it Kyle
Gary tomorrow night as they take on the Flames.

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
Not a very good team, I mean the way we're going.

Speaker 6 (01:35:10):
I know that there's a lot of season left, but
are we getting into must win territory against a sub
five hundred team here tomorrow night.

Speaker 11 (01:35:19):
Well, for a long time there we were looking at
Calgary going well, this is probably the team that's having
the hardest start to the season in the Western Conference
and certainly the Pacific Division. It's now Vancouver at twenty
nine points, and meanwhile Calgary at thirty is tied with
Seattle at thirty points. So Seattle has to look at
themselves now and say, we don't want to drop below Calgary.

(01:35:40):
We want to be the better team and we want
to start chasing these teams above the San Jose, La Evanton, etc.
So to do that, you've got to beat the teams
that are sitting below you in the standings, and that
starts tomorrow night with this Calgary team.

Speaker 2 (01:35:53):
Didn't Vancouver win the division last year?

Speaker 1 (01:35:56):
Yeah, Vancouver a tough run. As of late.

Speaker 11 (01:36:00):
They just traded away with Quinn Hughes and you know,
lots to talk about that trade. They got three first
round our three first round players that were chosen in
the first round, plus a first round pick for next
year's draft that could pay off depending on where that
pick lands. But you know, a couple of years ago
they were in the Stanley Cup contention hunt. So they've

(01:36:21):
taken a big step backwards. They're definitely in a retooling
position right now.

Speaker 6 (01:36:25):
All Right, I was wrong about that, but yeah, they
certainly have. They it was the year before. It was
two years ago that they won the Divice. All right,
al awesome stuff. Hopefully we get it going here starting
tomorrow night.

Speaker 2 (01:36:37):
We'll be listening.

Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
Yeah, I appreciate it. Boys.

Speaker 11 (01:36:41):
You have a good holiday and I'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 6 (01:36:43):
All right, sounds great, Happy holidays. Al Koniski has segment
brought to you by Queen Anne beer Hall, home of
the legendary smash Burger and your pre post and away
game headquarters. One last thing to wrap up this Wednesday
show next on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.

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