Best of Chuck & Buck 12-2

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yes, we got Greg Bell coming up at seven oh five,
Gene Steretaur at eight, Everitt Fits You at eight thirty,
Rick new Isiol at nine o'clock, all sorts of guests,
plus we got a few things that we got to
break down with the old judge, and we're also going
to introduce holiday analytics later on in the program as well.
Yesterday's show dominated by Seahawks conversation with our experts, Greg

(00:20):
Hugh and Coach, but perhaps the mediast conversation that was
occurring in the sports world was about Lane Kiffen and
whether or not Lane Kiffin did his did ole Miss
a disservice and did not handle things the right way

(00:40):
and leaving ole Miss to go to LSU. I'm never
going to begrudge somebody for taking a better position, but
I do think Bucky there is a right way and
a wrong way to do things. And to me, I mean,
Lane Kiffin just has always been sort of a petulant child.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
That's how he's always come across to me.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Always been the guy that his dad was the coach
and so he had access to the field and he'd
go the next day and brag about all all the
kids at the school about how you know, yeah, you
got a football for Christmas? I got a football song
by Doug Williams or whoever. That's who we always and
I don't think he's ever kind of changed being that person.

(01:20):
It's had a lot of opportunities and a lot of
great programs to show that he can handle maturity, the
maturity of you know, running the USC program, running the
Tennessee those are fantastic football programs, I need to tell you.
And he crashed and burned and ended up being vilified
in both of those situations before he got to Old

(01:41):
Miss where he was actually loved and embraced and everybody
wanted to keep him, and it looked like he had grown.
And I think that he has in a lot of areas.
And yet this reminds me of that same Lane Kiffin
petulant child aspect of it. If you want to take
a better job, one that you think is going to

(02:01):
bring you more life enrichment, even though it's not more money. Uh,
more life enrichment, Okay, you can do that, but do
you have to burn everything down behind you if you
don't get your way, and I mean your entire way,
that entire dog and pony show about I need to
meet with this group and they need to meet with

(02:22):
that group. Was all about him trying to get the
LSU job and getting to finish what he started at
ole Miss and being able to coach in the playoff.
It was all about his own personal glory and if
it wasn't, then why did he put in his contract
at LSU. If ole Miss wins the national championship, I
get a bonus, and it's because ole Miss won't recognize

(02:44):
him as the guy that led them to the national
championship if in fact they win it with an interim
head coach, just like Michigan acknowledgist Steve Fisher as the
guy that led them to the national championship in college
basketball years ago when he was in the same city.
So he wants on paper it to be acknowledged that

(03:04):
he was the head coach of a team that may
have won, may go on to win the national championship.
To me, it just comes off really small, very petulant.
I think he's still as one of the most immature
guys at one of the highest levels in college football
out there, and there was just a better.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Way to do this, without a doubt, a better way
to do it.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
And I mean it's there's a complicated thing going on
right with just how the whole kind of unruly aspect
of people being able to move and switch teams, coaches,
players alike. And yet I wish there was a way
that it was wrangled in better, but there isn't at
this point in time. And yet, when it comes to coaches,

(03:45):
you're the one that needs to set the standard of
how where loyalty is going to be. If if there's
going to be any loyalty, you're going to be the
ones that are going to set the set the standard
for that. And yet we don't see a whole heck
of a lot of them. I mean, the stagnity or
what Signetti at Indiana, he seems like he's the type
that's like, no, this is my spot, this is where

(04:05):
I'm meant to be. And I have a feeling that
he's going to get some folks that want to come
to Indiana and they're gonna want to stay there for
as long as they can until they can possibly move on.
There's just a I mean, they're just naturally in the world.
I mean, I'm with you, I'm not going to ever
begrudge anybody for going out and finding something, or if

(04:25):
they have the opportunity to do something bigger or better,
or they just feel like it and riches their life better.
If I I like my job, I like working with
you guys. If somebody offered me way more money to
do something that I didn't have to wake up at
four o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
For, yeah, I would probably I would.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Probably look into it. I most certainly would look into it.
But I wouldn't just text you guys one day and
say sorry, folks, come out and.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Leave you hanging right. There's a proper way to do it.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
I'd say, hey, I got this opportunity, rich and this
is what I'm thinking about doing, and so here it is.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
And I would probably give them an.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Opportunity to say, hey, we'd like to match that right
and stick around. So there's a way to do it.
There's most certainly a wrong way to do it. And
that's the way that Lang Kiffin has done it. It
seems like his whole career because I think that he
does do that. When I first took this job, I
was coaching kids in baseball. Not this is a way
different comparison because we're talking about I was coaching seventeen

(05:19):
eighteen year old boys, and I wasn't going to coach
a different team of seventeen eighteen year old boys. I
came to take this job, but one for one year
or about for one season. When I took this job,
I didn't quit on the team of young men that
I was coaching. I was coaching until nine ten eleven
o'clock at night and hadn't watched any sports and got

(05:40):
to go home and do my homework for this show
until one or two o'clock in the morning. For about
six eight months, I did this show on like two
hours of sleep. But it was because I couldn't. There's
no way I could look into the eyes of the
kids that I made a commitment to that I asked
them to make a commitment to me and say, sorry, folks,
this is the direct that I want to go. This

(06:01):
is a better opportunity for me and my family. You
get screwed because of it, and I just couldn't do it.
And yet that's exactly what he did. And if if
LSU wasn't about letting him, you know, see through to
the finish line what he had committed to for this
season at least, then why are you wanting to go there?
And why do you want a guy that's okay with
leaving his team in the lurch like that? To me,

(06:22):
it's and he's so many wrongs.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
He would argue that, hey, I wanted to coach them
the rest of the way. But just to take your
analogy further, if you did take say another radio job
or something in our the family of radio, when you
were under contract here, there's no way that anyone's going
to let you go to a rival and while you're

(06:46):
still here, right, and you're trying, and all of your
focus is on the making the other program better than
the one that he's currently at, right, I mean, that's
insane for the people that are inviting the Drogian horse in.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
Well, and I you know a lot of people have
been saying, well, if you want to blame someone, blame
the college calendar. Well, the college calendar is absolutely screwed up.
It is beyond ridiculous. The fact that signing day is tomorrow,
and part of the reason that Lane had to leave
now is so that he could start recruiting there. It
like all of that is is really screwed up. But
it's more about the fact that the way he yeah,

(07:24):
the way he did it, the way he was like, well,
but this is what I want, and if I'm not
gonna get it, then I'm going to take all of
my assistant coaches with me, and assistant coaches, if you
don't get on the plane with me, then you don't
have a job later. As opposed to saying, you know what,
if I'm really respectful of this program that i spent
six years trying to improve, and I'm really respectful of
these kids that I've spent all this time coaching and

(07:45):
that have given me all that time, I'd say, you
know what, I'm gonna go when the season's over, I'm
going to talk to the assistant coaches and we're going
to figure it out.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Thousand. What's so hard about that?

Speaker 6 (07:55):
Nothing?

Speaker 7 (07:56):
And instead, you're not gonna let me coach o mistress,
because I'm going to lsu who hate Well, then I'm
going to rally up all the coaches and you're not
gonna have anybody coach these kids, and you're gonna be embarrassed.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Why would you want to embarrass the kids when you've
been saying the whole time it's about these kids. Yeah,
I just can't stomach hypocrisy. No, I just can't stomach hypocrisy.
And you know you threw out something yesterday about you know,
you can't throw stones because if if you've been in
that position before, you know, maybe you would take the job. Well,

(08:31):
I can throw stones because I've been in that position before.
I have been offered more money and to take a
better job with a better company, but it was going
to leave so much damage to the people that I
cared about that I didn't take it, and I lost it,
and they wouldn't wait for me, and so I lost it.
So I'm not saying what I did was right, because
it really didn't turn out well for me. Maybe, so

(08:54):
maybe what I did was wrong, maybe it was stupid.
But if the if the criteria is you can't criticize
Lane Lane Kiffin unless you yourself have passed up more
money to do the right noble thing.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Why qualified for that?

Speaker 1 (09:10):
I can tell you that much right now. So I'm
gonna throw my stones because my house has not made
of glass on this particular topic.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
Yeah, And also, that's not why people are throwing stones.
It's about all the other crap that he did. You know,
nobody's saying like, well, how dare you take that job?
No one's saying that it's about the way you did it. Yeah,
and I think we could all sit there and say
none of us would do it the way he did it,
So we should all be able to throw stones at.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Him if there is so, If this is, if this
is a line that can be crossed now that you
I joked with coach when you left the Packers, did
you leave it with playoff games still on the board?
And I don't think they qualified for the playoffs if
I remember his last year with Green Bay. But that's
what he did. We'd never see that in the NFL,
even Bill Parcells coached all the way to the Super

(09:55):
Bowl when everybody knows that he was leaving afterwards and
it ended up being a dis traction, I think, to
the team. But he coached it all the way through.
So if because of the calendar and it is supposed
to change in the future, that that just frees you
of any responsibility to what you currently have at your

(10:16):
fingertips at your current job, then where is the one
who is there not a line anymore? We'll discuss that
next Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.

Speaker 6 (10:26):
Marcus Jones back team to receive this punt from Jamie Gillen,
the veteran left footed putter. He gets this one off.
It's a high boomy kick. Jones assesses backpedals to the
seven on the near side. He gets it to the
ten out of.

Speaker 8 (10:40):
The fifteen, sprints the twenty along the numbers to the
thirty outside of the forty.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
And Gillan slows him down for a second. He breaks
them all the sidelines.

Speaker 7 (10:46):
There's twenty fifteen to ten all the way.

Speaker 8 (10:49):
Touchdown Marcus Jones. Somehow he stayed in bounds ninety three
yards and the Patriots exploded to a nine big lead
here of the first quarter.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Westwood went on the call Monday Night Football. Last night,
New England Patriots went over the New York Giants snow
surprise there thirty three to fifteen in a mostly unwatchable game.
As a matter of fact, I didn't watch it. So
that's where we start with our frost brewed course light headlines.
And I know that these days we're guaranteeing that we
are human. But I will tell you this little known

(11:25):
sacred about chucking back in the mornings. One of the
three of us is not a human. I'll leave that
to your own speculation out there. I'm not saying that
where somebody's sub human, maybe they're superhuman, but somebody here
is not on the up and up. So sorry about
your guarantee. iHeart you should checked in with the Morning Show.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
For ye.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Such a bold statement.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah, sorry, I was speaking so sorry. We didn't even
have a meeting about it.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah yeah, Mike wasn't on your phone.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Thank goodness, sir.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
There's some things happening in your business that you're not
aware of. Seahawks take on the Falcons on this Sunday.
We'll talk to Greg Bell about that in the moment.
College football playoff penultimate rankings come out tonight. Selection Sunday
is this Sunday following conference championship week. Rick new ISIL
joins us at nine o'clock this morning to discuss that

(12:16):
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(12:36):
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five days away from Major League Baseball's Winter Meetings.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Hopefully we're gonna have.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Some time talk about that for the end of the
show today, because I got some things to say. But
right now we're gonna hear what Greg Bell has to
say with the Bell Tools. It must be seven o'clock
and time for twelfth Man News with Greg Bell, brought
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(13:07):
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Speaker 3 (13:10):
Now with What Man News, here's Greg Bell with Chuck
and but a girl tree.

Speaker 9 (13:17):
Girl tree. My daughter got there.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Oh okay, okay, okay, daughter five.

Speaker 9 (13:23):
We got a tree that she was able to stand
and put the star on topa but she still needed
a ladder to do it. Yeah, because she was home
from Connecticut Ghost Part Academy for Thanksgiving. We when got
the tree on Friday.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
That's a look at that family.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Look at that, look at that everybody, everybody on the
show has the tree up. And look, I'm not saying
you should have done it as early as what I did,
but I think maybe I influenced you to ball put
it up a little earlier.

Speaker 9 (13:49):
Yeah before early check.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Saint Patrick's Day day, after Saint Patti's days.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
That's when you take it down. Oh yeah, oh no, no.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
All right, well let's get right into it. As the
Seahawks coming off another nice impressive win. Certainly we discussed
a lot of things yesterday Seahawks related, but there is
a lot more left on the plate here that we
can now devour on this Tuesday, And this might be
the last week. I know, we don't want to jump

(14:26):
the gun and start breaking down the Falcons too much
just yet, but this might be the last of the
you have to win, not have to, but you should
win this game pretty easily. Weeks that the Seahawks are
going to have, because the schedule does get tougher after
the Falcons on Sunday, it does.

Speaker 9 (14:44):
They have one of the tougher by winning percentage tougher
remaining schedules among all the playoff contending teams in the NFC,
and I mean Atlanta, they've lost their quarterback, Michael Pennox
Junior is injured. As soon as I happens your seasons
going south, that's almost always the case, and that you

(15:05):
can start there in the Seahawks again, this is now.
Cam Ward is a rookie quarterback with a terrible offensive
line for Tennessee.

Speaker 10 (15:14):
Then an undrafted rookie.

Speaker 9 (15:16):
From four years out of New Hampshire making his first
NFL start in Max Brosmer the other day, and now
the backup quarterback. I know it's cousins, and I know
it's there's some veterans that the Falcons have behind Penix,
but it's not in their plans. But Atlanta does have
a defense in a pass rush, and they have really

(15:38):
remodeled their pass rush in the last couple of years.
That has been the one thing that has hurt them
the most, and they've gotten much better getting to the quarterback.
And we've seen what happens to teams that get.

Speaker 10 (15:48):
To Sam Darnold, and that remains.

Speaker 9 (15:52):
The biggest problem for Seattle, no matter who their playing
and no matter who's the quarterback. The opposite of Donald
is him holding onto the ball. But yet, point Chuck,
they should win this game to be ten and three,
and they could be ten and three, and we still.

Speaker 10 (16:05):
Don't know how good they are because they.

Speaker 9 (16:07):
Haven't beaten the Rams and the forty nine ers. And
I know I'm signing a broken record in a little
bit of a rain cloud, but that's Them's the facts.
They're trying to win the NFC West and the two
teams they have to win have to beat to win
the West, they haven't beaten yet. But now they get
them both and they're gonna have to beat them both
over the last six weeks. They've got the Rams after

(16:28):
so it goes Atlanta, then they come home from back
to back home games in five days between the Colts,
and then that rematch with the Rams on December eighteenth,
And it's easy to say, well, that'll be for the
division title, nah, because San Francisco is nine and four.
They're on there by this week. They at the latest
payer you could possibly have if they keep winning, that's

(16:49):
the game for the title in the final week of
the season, Week eighteen, and Santa Clara. Of course, the
Seahawks have to keep winning too, So yeah, Atlanta, the
Colts and Rams at home, and all of suddenly that
Week seventeen game at Carolina, that's a trick. We saw
what the Panthers just did in Charlotte to the Rams.

(17:09):
Suddenly Carolina is seven and six and they may be
contending for a playoffs spot on that Week seventeen game
before the Seahawks go to Santa.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Clara, Gee, the I mean, this season is different where
no one has really just kind of taken it, or
I guess different teams have taken the moniker of the
best team in the NFL, or they look like it
inevitably like the Rams this week, then they end up
getting beat and all of a sudden they're knocked off
their pedestal. I mean, the Seahawks have been in that

(17:37):
conversation a couple of different times. The Eagles were in
that conversation, and so it's really a lot of teams
that are kind of you know, four games over five
hundred and yet I'm guessing that this team feels like
they're the best team in the NFL. I mean, I
think that it's there still is work to be done,
but they had kind of controlled their own destiny go

(17:59):
out there and take their business, play the way that
you've shown you're capable, and let the chips fall where
they may once you get into the dance. But would
you say that do you think that right now that
the Seahawks think they're the best team in the NFL.

Speaker 9 (18:13):
They know they statistically they're second to third, you know
most of the metrics. But they know they have perhaps
the best defense in the NFL. And if you have that,
you can win anywhere. Defense travels, defense plays through any
whether you've heard all the cliches about defense, that's how
Mike McDonald has built his team, and that is the
obviate's strength here. So they they feel like they have

(18:35):
the best defense, They feel like they have the best
defensive line, they feel like they have the best secondary,
which still isn't healthy yet. We don't know if Julian
Love is going to come back to practice like he's
eligible two this week. He was eligible to last week
and his hamstring wasn't ready. And then they have Ernest
Jones at linebacker and you saw what he just did
in the game against Minnesota. Let's look at the teams

(18:56):
in the NFC and you tell me, can the Seahawks
claim that they are the best or not one of
the best. The Bears, Yeah, they're nine and three. They're
the number one seed right now, and not heart of hearts.
I know Caleb Williams having a great season. Ben Johnson
has transformed that offense and gotten Williams.

Speaker 10 (19:12):
To not turn the ball over and they're running the
ball like.

Speaker 9 (19:16):
Anybody best in the.

Speaker 10 (19:17):
League right now.

Speaker 9 (19:18):
But if you really cornered somebody in the Seahawks foccer
room saying, if you had to go to Chicago with
the Super Bowl on the line for the NFC title,
how would you feel about that? They'd say, we'll take that.
The Rams are, like Bucky just said, they were to
catch me out until they went to Charlotte the Eagles.

(19:38):
You would think the way the Eagles looked against the
Bears and the way the fans in Philadelphia were treating
them that they're like four and eight, they're eight and four,
but they're falling. And then the Buccaneers that the Seahawks field,
they absolutely gave away the game two. They're the four
seed right now, and in fact, the Seahawks would play
the Buccaneers if they don't win the division. The way
that the current standings are five verses four. Then it's

(19:59):
the Packers and the forty nine ers. So on those
lists they're all flawed in some ways. But yeah, to
answer Bucky's question, I think they have a legitimate say
of we can do this because of that defense, the
way the defense plays, and if it keeps playing the
way it is, they can withstand a lot. I don't
know against the Rams and the forty nine ers if

(20:19):
they can withstand Donald turning the ball over, but they
can withstand alive.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Our CX inside of Greg Bell is with us. You
can follow him at gmail, Seattle on X and of
course the News Tribune dot com for complete Seahawks coverage
every single day. This game was lopsided, but it was
also the game where Sam Donald, without question, faced the
most pass rush pressure of this entire season. So what's

(20:44):
the latest on Jalen Sundell And despite Mike McDonald's endorsement
of Anthony Bradford's play, is he at risk at right
guard of finally being removed from that starting spot.

Speaker 9 (20:56):
Well, it's interesting because Sundell, if you're remember, during training camp,
was one of the three competitors for the right guard job.
It was Christian Haines, who actually started training camp as
the starter, and then it was Anthony Bradford and they
had Sundell then directed looking for twenty twenty four who
did some guard work in practices last year. Sundell ended

(21:18):
up proving to be so good at center that he
beat out Oli with Timmy and took that job. Well,
now he's been on ir olal with Timmy is at center,
and if you take McDonald as his word, he really
likes how ola Timmy's played in the two games three
games since Sundell went out with a knee injury, which
makes the question, now do you keep some ol with

(21:39):
Timmy where he's been good. Sundell is eligible to come
off of injured reserve this time next week. The fourth
consecutive game he'll miss is the Atlanta game this weekend,
and I asked yesterday McDonald of Sundell how he's progressing
toward potentially practicing next week. He says he's doing really well.
And I said, is he going to come back to

(21:59):
be a guard or a center? And he said, we're
still working through what the lineup is going to look
like when he comes back, which is a really telling
statement to me. I think they're thinking about putting him
at guards and having Sundell play right guard next to
Ovala Timmy to not disturb what Olala Timmy's done in
the center of the offensive line. So competition on the

(22:20):
horizon perhaps for Anthony Bradford. Now, as you said yesterday,
McDonald said that he thought Bradford played a pretty good game.
He said there were some good plays and some not
some good plays. But when he was asked about fans
especially criticizing Bradford for standing around look like he's waiting
on a bus and some pass protection snaps, he said,

(22:41):
I think he's played pretty well, So we'll see. But
there is going to be competition somewhere because Sondell's not
going to come back, and said he's either going to
play center, he's going to play guard. At what I
saw in training camp, Guys, I think the best line
right now, I think Sandell's a better center than old tim.
But if they're good with Olowid Timmme att center, I

(23:02):
think their best line would be olwod Simme at center
and Sindela right guard.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
I couldn't disagree with that in the slightest Redford is
just not He does not play well. I don't want
to call the dude out, but it just is not
very good. Another guy that didn't have a good game
but is great as Jackson Smith and Jig. But I mean,
any concern about the rest of the NFL, especially the NFC,
the big games that they're going to have coming up

(23:28):
down the stretch here that they found a game plan.
The way in which the Vikings did stuff was different,
but it still is a four and eight team. Know
you you end up scoring twenty six points, so it
wasn't like you didn't figure out a way to get
it done. But they took away one thing that has
been you know, nobody else has been able to do.
So is there a game plan associated with that?

Speaker 9 (23:50):
Yes, and that is a concern. And they only had
one offensive touchdown and came a nine minutes left in
the game. Otherwise they were turned away every time and
had to kick four field goals against the four and eighteen.
Now McDonald is saying that, well, Baron Flores is unique
and he does things and nobody else in the league does.
Some people try to do it, but they just don't

(24:11):
do it scheme wise. The blitzing, the fake blitzing.

Speaker 10 (24:15):
But you can bet for sure that Atlanta.

Speaker 9 (24:18):
This week, the Colts next week, the Rams after that,
the Panthers after that. In the forty nine ers are
going to take this Minnesota game tape and say, let's
do this. And McDonald made the point again yesterday as
well to say, well, he even said at one point,
I don't really respect teams that just try to lift
game plans and become somebody else just because they saw
somebody else do it in the copycat league.

Speaker 10 (24:40):
That may be true, but Atlanta.

Speaker 9 (24:42):
Has changed their pass rush. As I set off the top.
We've seen what the Rams have done at the line
of scrimmage on the defensive line against the Seahawks for years,
although it wasn't nearly as impactful and Englewood in the
last game, Donald's still through four interceptions against them. So
Clint Kubiak this week, it's absolutely going back to some

(25:03):
drawing board things going. Wait a minute, we went into
the game allowing just eleven sacks eleven games a fuse
to the NFL and my guy was on the ground
four times in the first half.

Speaker 10 (25:13):
How that happens.

Speaker 9 (25:14):
So they've got to figure that out. They've got to
figure out if they are blitzing, do we roll Donald
away from the pressure, which they didn't do much of.
They kept him in the pocket and they also tried
to have him throw quickly after the pressure started getting
to him, and then he started throwing it into guy's hands.
I think it was six batted down passes. And I
asked McDonald about that specifically yesterday. I said, can you

(25:38):
scheme out of that? Or is that execution and play
and cutting down guys in the legs and low blocks
And he said a little bit of both, but basically
there's some scheme that we need to change. And he
didn't say it, but what it tells me is I
bet they're going to sprint him out away from pressure
and try to get Donald outside the tackles to see
if they can't run away from some of the bat

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it passes in the inside blitzes. Cooper Cup mentioned that
after the game. I think we talked about it yesterday,
but Cooper Cup really outlined how they need schematically to
be better, and he thinks it's running outside in bootleg
type action away from the pressure. He also said receivers
better get used to running three yard routes and taking

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quick dig routes instead of longer breaking routes that Smith
and Jigba did for the first two months of the season.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Awesome stuff. Thank you, Greg. We appreciate it. To enjoy
that tree. Maybe the entire Bell family hold hands today,
circle around it. Maybe sing some carols to the tree tonight.

Speaker 9 (26:38):
Oh man, that's like Peanuts Gang memory.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
Yeah, that's nice.

Speaker 9 (26:41):
That's a nice memory.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
I can see you, like the Schroeder type over there,
playing your little piano while everybody.

Speaker 9 (26:46):
Down just just jamming. Was good musically as.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Thank you, sir. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Greg Bell,
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about five.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Minutes from now.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
On Mondays, we have Mike Holmgren. I don't know if
you've heard of him, Mike holmgrenn. He comes on our
show every Monday and Friday and on Mondays.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
They are pretty much two prominent themes.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Number one, he complains about analytics when we talk about
the Seahawks.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
And number two, he complains about me when we talk
about Christmas.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it pretty much nailed it. Yeah, so
you cut your hair so we didn't complain about that.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah, yeah. One last thing, Yeah, I've given him one
less thing in the right direction.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Charles. Oh that was a mess, wasn't it. Anyway?

Speaker 1 (28:35):
So what we're gonna do here today is combined the two.
And this is for coach Holmgirl, and this is really
going to make things very difficult for him because now
I'm combining holiday analytics to try to figure out whether
or not we've been making mistakes or not and if
we need to change and adjust the way that we
do things because now we have analytics to back this up.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Oh great, yeah, I'm not looking forward to it.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Let's start with the Christmas tree, since this has been
the big topic of conversation, the Christmas tree. I put
mine up on July fifth. Ashley put hers up the
day after Thanksgiving. Bucky put his up with his family yesterday. Okay,
so we're all We're all up.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yep, we're up. We're up and running.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Apparently, the first day of Advent is the customary day
to put up your Christmas tree. Now that changes every year,
so this year it would have been Sunday, November thirtieth.
It's the fourth Sunday before Christmas. It gives you full
four weeks to enjoy your Christmas tree. It might have

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something to do with the health of a real Christmas
tree too. I have no idea, but that's the customary
first day of Advent is when you're supposed to put
up your Christmas tree.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Now.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
According to analytics though, because they're you know, figuring out
joy and then they're figuring out you.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Know, pleasure.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, Franken Senson Merger get mixed into there. So according
to analytics, the best time to put up your christmastery
is on November first.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Oh, those analytics are wrong. Do you believe the analytics? Bucky? No? No,
false again, you cannot be that?

Speaker 3 (30:22):
No, yes, no, I think that whatever, the traditional rule
of the fourth day Advent, whatever, I think that's right
around where it should be. And typically if you want
to get a little extra joy out of you, and
if you look into the analytics and you're like, I
need more joy, then the day after Thanksgiving you're getting

(30:46):
a little bit of a jump on that. Unless it
just so happens that that happens to be, well, that
would never be the day after Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Because Thursdays Thanksgiving Thursday.

Speaker 5 (30:56):
I will say this though, because it's interesting bringing all
these you know, extra equations into the overall analytics. We
have to do that right, And that's where it gets
tricky because once you start factoring, I think the joy
has to be weighed higher. Right, because the joy is
probably the most important part of the season.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
That's what I'm thinking.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
So if you're weighing the joy, then you're far too
late using the advent May and some you're not science
y or some sort of calendar.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, and I used to be a traditionalist. I used
to be a lot like Bucky and then, but I've
given myself into analytics a little bit. Now I'm like
the Dan Campbell of Christmas tree.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
I've noticed that go for it.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeah, I just go for it, even when it's I'll
put up my Christmas tree, you know, from my own
four yard line, four down and twelve a crazy view.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
It'll cost you one of these times. It'll come back
to cost you a Christmas Tree championship.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
But a real Christmas tree it would cost me because
it'd already be stinking.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
It's just December. I do have a real one, and
it smells wonderful. You guys have real ones.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
I do not.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Okay, and thanks fail analytics.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
I used to, but I was the only one in
my most so good.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
So good.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
I went stretched by mine this morning. Oh oh nice.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Bad news is we're out of time to do another one.
The good news is now I can use these.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
For the entire week.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
We can do our holiday analytics to do. At least
we got through the tree. Let's play some factor fiction
right now. Where's that to go?

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Glad you're with us.

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Speaker 3 (33:25):
I'm sticking with the old trusty way, even though it
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Speaker 5 (33:29):
The old Trusty way that backfish trust that sometimes fails me.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
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Speaker 2 (33:35):
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Speaker 5 (33:37):
Way, what'd you say, the old trusty way that fails
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Oh yes, yes, yes, that'll fail you. This one rarely does.
Find a good team playing a bad team, Go ahead
and take it, even though there's a big spread. The
Tampa Bay Buccaneers host the Crap Saints.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
They are not good, that is official. They're gonna have
to give them points.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
But it's at home division games sometimes those are played tough.
For the last time these two teams played the Saints,
Saints and Buccaneers, it was at their place and they
won by twenty. Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and take
the Buccaneers. I'll lay the eight points. They're at home.
The Aints are coming in and they ain't gonna cover
this spread.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
And they're getting healthier. Tampa Bay. I mean they've been
going their duck back.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yeah, they've probably been the most broken team in the
National Football League this season. But they got Irving back,
and they got Godwin back, and I think they get
Evans back soon. So they're ramping back up. The beginning
of the year, they're playing as well as anybody. Yeah,
So all right, Bucky's gonna ahead and lay the points.
I mean, you got to you gotta go out on
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You be you so Tampa Bay at home? Yes, yep,
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just eight eight? Okay, eight points? All right, So still
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Speaker 10 (36:45):
Well.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
I felt like he was part of my Thanksgiving. Seemed
like he was calling every single game over the weekend,
and so I just sliced him up a piece of
turkey and a little bit of pumpkin pie, right and
just set it there right in front of the television
and just acted like Gina joined us.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yeah, yeah, he would have appreciated that, yau. I don't
think he got to enjoy things too. Maybe still hasn't.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Oh man, are you kidding me? The catering they do
over there at CBS Sports. He had one of the
greatest tech turkey meals he's ever had in his star wife.
He just didn't have his family around. What a wonderful Thanksgiving.
Jean's Territorius with that's right here on chugging Bark. Good
new chat with you. Hope you had a great Thanksgiving anyway.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
Good morning fellaws. Chucky. We missed you last week, And Bucky,
I did get home yesterday and my lovely wife did
leave two real thin slices of white meat in the
back corner of the fridge, and I asked you to
save that extra half gallon of gravy as you suggested
last week. Him I dumped it on and we had
a really great Thanksgiving bucky good.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
I'm so glad to hear it.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
By the way, my wife made her best gravy to date. Oh, like,
you need to just make a gallon of it, like
you just said, Gino, you said, I need a gallon
of that on reserve, just in the back of the
fridge in a flask.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yeah, it'll just be like lard. I'll just throw it
in the microwave when I need it.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Sure, you can't bring that into the stadium. It's just great.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
It's gravy.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
No more than four houses though, you can't bring more
than four houss. We'll get to security, all right.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
You know, I would love to get flagged by TSA
for trying to sneak gravy onto an airplane.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Yeah, it's not really liquid anymore, sir.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Try to pour it out.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
There's nothing in there, and it is explosive. All right, Well,
let's talk some football.

Speaker 6 (38:37):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
The one I want to start with is from the
college game, because I was thinking was such an interesting
play and still we're days after this Jeremiah Smith touchdown.
It's kind of unlike any play that I think I've
seen before where he seemed to be bobbling the touchdown
as he went into the end zone and we weren't

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sure if he got control of it before he stepped
out of the end zone over on the side. I mean,
it was such a bang bang play. It looks like
such an obvious touchdown, Gene, and then you slow it
down and you're like, man, maybe that is a fumble
out the side of the end zone. I've heard people say, now,
that's ridiculous. I've heard people say, absolutely, that's a fumble.

(39:19):
Where does the greatest football referee of all time weigh.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
In on this?

Speaker 4 (39:25):
That's a big, big that's a big thie chuck. You
put a lot of heat on me here. But I
think I think it falls in that category. And I
know we've even spoken about this in previous meetings together
where we start slowing this down to the place where
what we think is our state. You know, one of
the things we say is a hundred guys and hunter
guys and guys in the bar look at this and go,

(39:47):
look it's a touchdown. And now you slow it down
and you go, wait a minute, he doesn't really have
control of it. Where does that piece one one end
and the other begin. Uh, we've all decided to bring
rep play into our games in certain capacities and allow
them to slow it down as slow as they would
like to make these decisions. But even with all that said,

(40:09):
there's this element of subjectivity which kind of lands on
that replay official or the collaboration making the final decision
and then the rest of us.

Speaker 9 (40:18):
Right.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
I think that play, coupled with the great catch that
McClellan made in the you dub Oregon game, kind of
both of those, although different types of plays, they really
to me fall in that same category, right, Like you know,
I think if you look at it replay and really
really slow it down. In the Ohio State game, it
appears that he's lost possession right before he crosses the

(40:41):
goal line. If he has that possession just and the
ball breaks the plane and then bobbles it in that
step where the next two camera frames, we know that
if he had possession and it broke the plane, he
was a runner. It's a touchdown. But if he did
lose that possession, you basically have a fumble within his
own body. You know's he's the one who did it
all and he doesn't regather it before that foot touches

(41:03):
out of bounds. So there's forever going to be these
types of scenarios occur because the football world decided to
put subjective rulings into replay, and regardless of well slower
fast we put them, we're going to end up in
these little windows of time. I think that allow us
to have these discussions. But in real time. To me, touchdown,

(41:28):
I brought it down frame by frame, right, put everything
in there. Hey, he lost possession.

Speaker 10 (41:33):
Of this thing.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
Let's go back and frame by frame it. So as
much as I would really love to give you the defendantive,
I think by the rules of replay and the way
that we have now become accustomed to it, you've got
to stay it.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
For fumble cool.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
But in the real world and watching that, I know,
you know, if we go back and circle back fifteen
years before this happens, I don't I think it's a
blip in the screen, or we may not even really
address it, right, we just move on. We've now brought
our game to this place, which is job security. I
have to say selfishly at this point in life, you know,

(42:08):
let's get on for a couple more years and then
you guys can do what you want.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
With it later perfect well, I mean, just a little
add on to that then if that was I mean,
when you slow it down in real time, you're like,
it looks like you lost possession. Do you like the
rule or maybe you can explain why you think the
rule of if that was the case, had they ruled
every way, touch back other team's ball go in the
other direction versus all right, fumbled, he got back possession.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Here is the ball on the one. Do you like
the rule? And why is that rule the way that
it is?

Speaker 4 (42:40):
You know, Bucky, you know, we've always kind of lived
by the philosophy that the end zone is sacred ground
and it kind of does have its little asterisks in
the other other rulings that apply in the field. The
implementation of that, I believe, going back way before my time,
I think as well, was maybe too avoid just reckless

(43:03):
abandonment as you die toward the end zone, you know,
and understanding that if it pops out, we're still going
to get the ball back at the half yard line.
And there are other plays that also have the end
zone involved, which create other dynamics. And if this one
repeats itself over and over and we inevitably have that
discussion like it seems too punitive because if that ball

(43:24):
goes out at the half yard line, we're just coming
back to the spot of the fumble and it's the second,
third or fourth and goal. But the end zone is
always been considered kind of that sacred space where you've
got to take care of everything, and once that football
gets into that area of the field, there are some
different rules applied. So I really kind of my personal

(43:45):
a fffeling, I don't mind it personally, but I do realize,
you know, the pushback, because it just doesn't seem equitable
in certain instances. And sometimes these are those instances, you know.
But and in the replay situation, I've been an adamant.
I've stood very strongly with my feelings with replay when
I was on the field actively doing it. And now

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in this position, is I wish that we would only say,
maybe turn this dial back like twenty percent slower than
real time, in no less than that, because at twenty
percent or eighty percent real full speed, officials that are
screwed in or really seeing the game at about eighty percent,
just like players, the game slows down to that window

(44:28):
and I think if we made our replay decisions in
that same window of slowness without going into the frame
by frame magic trick off, it's loose in mid air,
I think that there would be more balance. I think
there would be more consistency, and quite frankly, I think
then you could see replay decisions made on the field

(44:48):
that officials then could see the next day when they
look and say, you know, I missed that. Look how
they ruled on that at twenty percent slower than real time.
I need to be able to get that right in
real t time too, these frame by frames. As an
official in the human condition, you're ruling on these bang
bang plays, and your feel is, look, I got this right,

(45:09):
and then we come back and go, oh, one camera
frame before that happened, this happened, and you're wrong. That
puts a bug in your brain when you're on that field,
you know, as you continue through your profession. So I
really wish that we would all collectively come back and say,
let's find that sweet spot where we're just slowing the
game down to this level and we're making all decisions

(45:31):
at that level too. I think then you know, you
could blend, you could blend training, It would become more
of a training tool than this other element we see.
How many times have we seen forward passes go forward
and the ball just lays there because everybody's scared to
death to blow the whistle now, right, or any fumble
that happens near the player going down. Everything's just we

(45:54):
let it go now because replay'll fix it. To me,
from that purity of what I did for my life's
work and his sports, that hurts me because it diminishes,
it doesn't allow great officials to be great. It's pulling
everybody back towards being mediocre in some ways. And that's
just my feel on it.

Speaker 10 (46:12):
You know.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
CBS Rules analyst Jean sterret Tor joins us every week
here on Chucking Buck in the Morning to talk about
some of the interesting calls over the weekend. And you
brought up the name Jeremiah McClellan, so I ought to
get your thoughts on this. I mean, to me, it
just looked like a really fancy failure by a guy
in silly clothes. And yeah, you know, and yet maybe you,

(46:35):
as an official, unbiased may have had a different view
of it. Did they get that right? Calling it incomplete listen.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
I said it on air. I'm still standing with it.
I was different from the ruling on the field at
the end of the replay. I thought it was an
unbelievable play where a player secured with strength and if
you look, two or three of his fingers rush were
even hurled on the on the ball pined to his helmet. Yes,
when he hit the ground, the ball moved a little

(47:06):
with his hands. Okay, that's that's what happens when people
land with footballs. That doesn't move out of his control.
But it didn't move, but his hand stayed firmly on that.
And again that's I felt like, this is just an
unbelievable catch, a great play that we looked and like.
It just just it doesn't look like you can be

(47:27):
able to possibly and physically do that. Well. I think
he did right, and uh and again I think that's
that's that space that we all live in there. But
I thought, and again maybe some of this is me
just get a little romantic and old with it. I
think there has to be some artistic you know, like
in gymnastics, you stick to landing and then they say,
you know, the Italian judge goes eight point five on

(47:50):
artistic impression, right, or something to that effect. When you
make a play like that, I think, don't you get
a little extra window of Hey, I know it moved
a little bit, but my god, you know you pulled
it off. We're giving it to you. You know. Uh,
maybe we should vote on that sometimes. But I really
thought it was possibly catch.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
I'm not sure, what do you think.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Bucky was definitely there, you know, I mean, it was
basically amazing.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
I'm gonna give it to you. That was definitely a catch,
just like if he's in price sock definitely was not
p I on a very pimidal gameplay in the game,
Jane and I speak that would out by us on
this one preach check. That was a terrible call.

Speaker 4 (48:33):
Jane, Nick Ashley Evens said, preach chuck in the background there.
If you guys need me to get out there and
referee the remainder of the show, it might take me
two or three hours to get there, but I'd be
more than willing to It. Sounds like we have a
little biased opinions in some of these, but I thought
I thought preduct did a great job of closing on
the receiver and without turning his back and looking back

(48:55):
toward the football and almost timed it perfectly. I do
think though, that right before that ball got to that
mesh point, and I don't know that he needed to
do it. I think his arms went more toward the
receiver and as opposed to going vertical, I think if
he puts his arms straight up and stretches straight up
in the air as he's closing there, the contact becomes
just a little closer to what we call in the

(49:17):
officiating world to bang bang and not bang breath bang,
And I think that was where that piece kind of
went there. Anytime a defensive player is chasing chase mode
into a receiver and doesn't get his head turned back
around so that we as officials can give him some
love that yeah contact, anybody's playing the ball. If you

(49:37):
don't get that head around, now that your window of
what I can allow you to do gets shrunken. We
have to now be a little more technical because now
you are just trying to time this through that player
without regard to playing the football. So we get a
little more technical on those plays, and the bang bang
play doesn't get as much love as if they're turning
back and I can put you in the window of

(49:59):
contact while you're playing the ball field. So both play.
I hate to be over two with you this morning, Chucky,
but either gravy was really good. Oh yeah, with you
on both of them.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
But yeah, maybe maybe they should stop trying to cheat, Geane,
Maybe Price Auction stop trying to break the rules.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
I didn't know Jean's territor love Tiki tak football calling. Okay,
I got it.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
I understand that. I don't think that's true.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
Don't listen to him, Jeans. I mean, when you're right,
you're right, and we're just gonna cry about.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
It in the nursing home with football these days, I
don't I don't agree with that, je I'll go ahead
and move on.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
It can just be you and I like last week, Geane,
if you'd like, we can go ahead and meet these two.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
I do have.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
I have one that I want a little bit of
an explanation the whole pick play thing. Chuck and I
were talking after the show yesterday, and you know, is
there a an amount of room that you have within
the line of scrimmage where that's completely legit? Because it
does feel like in the Bronco game there was a
couple of plays. One was the fourth down in overtime

(51:04):
to keep the game alive, and they ran a pickplay,
so it's like they obviously like the idea. If it
doesn't get called, there's a good way chance the guy's
going to be open. And then in the final play
that was a two point version that got batted down,
the guy was going to be open because of another
one that That one seems far more legit where the
guy got caught up in traffic trying to go across

(51:24):
the line. But those immediate pick plays seem like they
work every single time, and sometimes there's a flag and
sometimes there isn't.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
Yeah, multiple levels, there's a block and white issue here
if you are legally, as an offensive player allowed to
block within one yard of where the ball was snap
going forward downfield, so that little window, and that's why
you'll see a lot of times if teams have a
penalty after a touchdown and can move the football from
the two to the one, they'll go for two that
because there's now they can block from the one to

(51:54):
the goal line legally and kind of set that screen
or what looks like a screenplay. In college, it's still
legally be blocking while player goes right behind him, right
at the goal line, and that would be legal. So
there is a block and white line as it relates
to what's legal with offensive passing experience, and it is
making contact within that yard. Now, once we get beyond
that yard, a lot of different elements start to take place.

(52:17):
There's a lot of things here in that fourth out
play the defensive player. We're beyond the yard, so we're
not in the block and white portion now. But now
when that receiver comes off of the line after he's
gone more than the yard, if that defensive player initiates engagement,
he's coming into him and putting hands out toward him.

(52:37):
Now you're what you're allowed to kind of do as
an offensive player. Now I can either fight to get
you off, I can snuggle and kind of ride you
away from the play. You've given me more window to
kind of legally pick you because you came into me
and initiated that rubber that snuggle contact. So now my

(52:57):
ability to kind of cheat you a little bit ists
in those scenarios. When we're running the other traditional pick plays,
a lot of times you'll see offensive pass interference is called,
and it's this bang bang situation with a defensive player
out in space and a receiver at the top of
his route or something. Those plays, when we have those,
you've got to kind of harken yourself move to a

(53:18):
different sport and look at a block charge playing basketball.
If the defensive player is stationary and has established his
position on the field, and the offensive player now is
coming toward him, the offense is responsibility is he has
to avoid him. He cannot run into a defensive player
in the established position that he has gained prior to contact,

(53:39):
so it would be a charge, right, So if it's
a charge, it's an offensive pass interference. If it becomes
a blocking file, we're now right before that meshing or
that point of contact, the defensive player slides into the
offensive player or is outside of his frame of where
he established. Now the onus becomes an onus on the
defensive player. So there's multiple layers with offensive passing appearances.

(54:03):
It relates to beyond that yard line, but within the
yard all things really, you know, we can go do
what we need to do there. So there's a ton
of those elements within those within those plays, And I
don't disagree with you. I think that the the first
one I felt like the defensive player of the fourth
ump player the defensive prayer reached and began engagement. He

(54:24):
kind of opened his window up to allow that little
extra rub bump the last one. There is a lot
of there's a lot of congestion there right which which
convolutes a little And then at the time of that happened,
as we said, he said the bat of the football down.
So it became a little bit of a non issue
in that regard. But there's definitely a lot of tentacles

(54:46):
on that play, a lot of things to digest.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Well in our last minute, and I really am up
against it. But I think you can answer this one
pretty quickly. Did we have a case on the marioda
intentional grounding where he threw it over the receiver's head,
I mean, clearly over the receiver's head. And yet we've
watched that play a thousand times in our lives and

(55:09):
it doesn't get called intentional grounding. It did on Sunday night,
and it seemed that the reaction was that the official
just didn't know the rule. I mean, is that what happened.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
It's not in the rule of black and white. But
Terry McCully did a really good job. He's been a
great official with three Super Bowls in his resume the
analyst for NBC. By our philosophies, when a receiver is
between the numbers and the sidelines, that third we call
of the field and a football would go over the
head of that receiver. Philosophically, officials don't throw intentional grounding there,

(55:44):
even though we know the balls fifteen feet in the
air and his verdict we're only takes him to twelve
and a half feet or whatever the case may be.
So it's kind of an NFL philosophy's ruling, or that's
how we've always administered that penalty. You look in the book,
it doesn't say anything about thirds and all of those things.
But as you said too, Chuck, that's a play that

(56:05):
we've seen many times and we look and go, look, guys,
that's not catchable. There's nothing there. But there's also no
flag for intentional grounding. So I think that's that window,
and I think he explained it well philosophically. But then,
as we all know, we look into the dictionary, we
go google it and go, dude, that's not in the
book anywhere. What are you talking about? So that's where
that play falls. That's kind of the NFL in officiating

(56:28):
has always been more liberal with not calling intentional grounding, right,
I mean you did receivers in the area had an
opportunity to touch the ball. All of those scenarios apply
in many cases, and we usually are very liberal not
to call that foul. This is another one of those
scenarios and why he disagreed with what the officials did
on the field.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
The great Gene Sterotor joins us every week here on
Chuck and Buck. This week on't know maybe not your best.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
I think it was one of your best ever. A
little off your.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Game, a little bit, Gene, I don't know. Better Next
week maybe that'd be my advice. Ian Right, it's hard.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
I'll be watching film all week. Chuck, I swear it.
I need it. Keep sending me more plays, Chucky. I
love it.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Thank you, Jean, talk to you next week. Thanks all right,
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ninety three point three kJ R f M gave Everett.

(57:35):
I gave the Kraken to Ashley and Bucket last week.
I'm like, you know, get him going, and they couldn't
win us a game. So hopefully me being back this week,
we'll get us back on track.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Everett.

Speaker 12 (57:49):
Yeah, No, you were the you're the good luck Churm.
I think it's just really no no vacation for Chuck.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
However, again, everybody in the organization's been buzzing about it.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Is that what you're telling me?

Speaker 4 (58:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (58:00):
They were who let Chuck Powell off offline.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
For oh for a Lambert Leon Lambert just can't stop
talking about Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Calls me old g lse good luck John Bri good
luck Chuck, Chuck, good luck Chuck.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Well, what is the reason, Everett fits? You why the
crack and haven't won in three games?

Speaker 12 (58:29):
You know, I listen, I the only real I want
to say, stinker.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
We talked about this quite a bit.

Speaker 12 (58:36):
When you're in the middle of a season, you're not
going to win every game. There are going to be
challenges that present themselves. And going back to the Dallas game.
I mean Lane even said it. They played good enough,
but there were just a few key mistakes on Thanksgiving
Eve that you just can't afford to make. And at
this level, you make those mistakes, they end up in

(58:58):
the back of your net. The Edmund game, you're going
up against an Oilers team that, now for the third
year a row, have gotten off to a five hundred
or slightly were slightly better start through twenty plus games.
They don't seem to have their ducks in a row,
if you will, But the last two years they've gone

(59:21):
on to the Stanley Cup finals and they've won the West.
So Edmonton this is about the time when they turn
it around. So I will say a performance from the
Oilers on Saturday didn't surprise me. But I think the
fact that the Kraken couldn't beat one of the most
you know, the struggling goalies in this league, you know,

(59:41):
that's obviously something that they weren't too happy about.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
In that game.

Speaker 12 (59:47):
You know, the shots weren't weren't where they needed to be,
the passes were a little bit sloppy coming through the
neutral zone. It just wasn't as sharp and as crisp
as I think this team expects it to be and
regardless of how the Oilers have started, whenever you've got
McDavid and dry Sinle and Nujian Hopkins was his first

(01:00:07):
game back after a you know, lengthy ir stent. You
had Zach Hyman back for his fifth game of the season.
He was out for the first month of the year.
So whenever you've got a dangerous team like that, regardless
of their record, you have to know that they're gonna
come for you, and they did on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
How are we feeling about Joey d since he's been
back to cord with when it comes to you know,
being in Netay, is he right back to where we
want him to be or is that something that does
take a little time to knock some rust off.

Speaker 12 (01:00:42):
You know, I think it does take a little bit
of time. But for Joey, I mean, he is a
goalie that prides himself on his preparation. He's always ready,
he's always working. You know, you watch him after a
morning skate where he's starting that night, he goes to
the gym, gets a full practice workout, he goes through
his mental preparation.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
He's got the.

Speaker 12 (01:01:03):
VR goggles on that he uses a pregame to dial
himself in. So even when Joey, you know, misses time
like we saw him earlier this year, he he doesn't
need a whole lot of time to get back. And
I think we're seeing Joey Decord still perform at a
very high level. I think where the the the issue

(01:01:27):
lies is I think with just the team's lack of offense.
And Layne Lambert will tell you you know, he wants
the team to shoot more. He wants there to maybe
be a little bit more of a of a selfish
mentality when it comes to trying to generate offense, and
so Joey Decord, I think is fine. I think this
year we've seen that Philip Grubauer is having a very

(01:01:49):
good resurgent season compared to the last two and and
he's playing some of his best hockey that we've seen
throughout his tenure here in Seattle. So I don't think
the goaltending has been an issue this season as opposed
to just trying to generate more offense.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
And a lot of your offense, let's face it, in
the NHL, comes on that man advantage and here you go,
oh for five against Dallas on the power play, and
oh for two in getting shut out by Edmonton you
obviously didn't succeed in it. And a one nothing shut
out of the Islanders. How close does Lane feel that
they are to rearranging the decks on the on the

(01:02:32):
you know, the chairs on the deck, to try to
get the right combination of guys so you can improve
that power play. You got to be successful in that area.

Speaker 12 (01:02:40):
Yeah, it's it's not it's it's been an area of opportunity.
We'll say that over the last handful of games. You
go oh for six against the Oilers, you go oh
for five against against Dallas, and I think the Cracket
are oh for their last thirteen or fourteen overall, going
back a few games on the power play, Yeah, I

(01:03:02):
mean it's not that's not great, Bob, not great. And
and listen again, it all just comes from the that
shooting first mentality. And and Lane will tell you the
looks that the Kraken are getting on the power play,
they're not bad looks. But I think there is still

(01:03:24):
too much waiting for the perfect pass, waiting for the
perfect lane. And and you go back to a lot
of goals that have been scored this season, and particularly
from the fourth line, who has done a really good
job of shipping in offense this year. Pucks are going
off of skates, they're going off of of legs, And
there was a ty Cartier goal last week in Chicago

(01:03:47):
that went off of Oscar Fisker ballguards inside knee, off
of ty Cartier's outside knee and then went into the
back of the bed.

Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
And I also think too, with.

Speaker 12 (01:03:58):
James Schwartz now out six weeks, you lose a really
big net front piece on the power play because Jayden
Schwartz is the kind of guy that will score a
goal off his face if he has to write, and
you lose a lot of that with him on the
shelf now for the next month and a half. So
you know, I don't know what that looks like moving forward,

(01:04:20):
the Cracking, they work on the power play every day
in practice. It'll be interested to see what happens today
and tomorrow at practice. The Cracking have got one of
the very rare lulls in the schedule right now. They
haven't played since Saturday. They'll play in two days time
on Thursday. But after Thursday, the Cracking are playing every

(01:04:41):
other day, including a December twenty second, twenty third, back
to back going into Christmas. So the schedule is going
to pick back up here. So hopefully, you know, the
last couple of days today and tomorrow, you'll be able
to make a lot of the practice time that you
do get.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
You know, football play last like you know a second
nat half a baseball play, you know, a few seconds more.
I play by play guy on radio doesn't have to
follow continuous action and those sports like a hockey guy does.
So how are you handling Oscar Fisker mole guard?

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
How is that flowing?

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Having to say that name every time that he the
puck gets near him? Are you just skipping it over?
Or if you come up with a nickname, what are
we doing there?

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (01:05:27):
No, so you know when he when he was up here,
you know, Oscar Fisker moleguard.

Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
It's fun to say.

Speaker 12 (01:05:33):
It's it's a very fun name to say. I will
say we've shortened it to h O f m uh
internally and in.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
The in in in the shorthand. But no, you're gonna
You're gonna.

Speaker 12 (01:05:46):
Really punch out the fist Skur mole guard or the
Oscar fish Sker mole guard.

Speaker 4 (01:05:52):
You're gonna have fun with it.

Speaker 12 (01:05:53):
So I pride myself I'm being able to get everyone's
full name. Okay, when I can, I mean unless you,
I would say, unless your Vancouver who has an Elias
and Elias and Marcus Patterson. So that that's the one
team that I'm like, I hope that that will be Ice.

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
At the same time, I.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
Mean, they all can't be Capo CaCO, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 12 (01:06:14):
They can't all.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
Right, back on the call Thursday back against the Edmonton Oilers.
I hope you had a great Thanksgiving. We'll talk to
you again next week.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
I did, and.

Speaker 12 (01:06:28):
I'm gonna instruct rich More to not approve anymore of
your vacation time.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Okay, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:06:34):
Team really great for the hockey team we have. We
have games to win, we have playoffs to make. We
can't have shut Powell getting some quality time with his family.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
We can't have that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
I really do have to start appreciating my value to
the Kracking.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
You're right, thank you, sir.

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
Appreciate you allright, guys, see it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
Hi the great effort.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
That's you right here, the voice of your Seattle Kracking,
and he will be on the call Thursday night back
against the Oilers. We got to snap this three game
losing streak, all right. Coming up next on the program,
how many NFL teams actually did drop the ball at
quarterback this offseason? Some interesting reporting done this morning, and

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This is college.

Speaker 13 (01:07:51):
Football, and I want you to get it all over yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
I think I have.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
I think I have. Oh yeah, it all over myself?

Speaker 10 (01:08:00):
You have?

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
You still have some?

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Right?

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
There?

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Is that?

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Right? Going a little crusty, hasn't it?

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Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
Was wondering while you were licking your thumb and trying
to wipe.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
It faced here.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Yeah, yeah, got a little bit of Ohio State Michigan, right, yeah,
a little bit more. Well, I'm going to get it
all up in there again this weekend, that's for sure.
Joining us now is Rick new Iasley gives great advice,
as it turns out our college football insider, Good morning, sir, Hi.

Speaker 4 (01:08:33):
How are you boys?

Speaker 13 (01:08:35):
It sounds like clean up on Aisle nine, But other
than that, all is well.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
It's hard not to get into this. I mean, I've
said it a couple of times this week there, men.
There haven't been a lot of times in my life,
and I know college football has its issues right now, coach,
but there haven't been a lot of times in my
life where I got to Sunday and I actually felt
a little bit disappointed as what I was getting ready
to watch because there was no way to match how

(01:09:01):
much I enjoyed Friday and Saturday and college football. And
maybe that happens again this week. I don't know. I
know there are a lot of things going wrong with
this sport right now, but there's a whole heck of
a lot that's going right for it.

Speaker 13 (01:09:13):
The games deliver there's no question about it. And in
this particular iteration the twenty twenty five season, we don't
have enough room at the end for the teams that
probably could win a national championship. I mean there's a
number of teams that are going to be outside looking
in when the committee gets finished with their work this
next Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Yeah, And I think that's part of it. There were
just like there were so many teams that had a
tournament possibility that you got to watch. It just felt
like all the games just had greater magnitude. And now
we get to Selection Sunday this week, and I hope,
I hope that they don't overreact. I mean, there are
sixteen viable teams that could be in the tournament this year,

(01:09:54):
but I hope they don't overreact and feel, well, we
have to expand it now, because, as Nick Saban said
on Saturday, Man, I watch college basketball sex Selection show
and they have sixty eight teams and they spend two
hours afterwards talking about the teams that didn't get in.
So it doesn't matter how big you make the tournament.
I like twelve. I want to keep it here for

(01:10:14):
at least for a while. Kick the tires on this thing.

Speaker 13 (01:10:18):
I'm with you. I've long you know, said that the
number needs to go higher just so that you can
pay your bills. I mean, at the end of the day,
that's the reason it will go higher. But if you're
wanting competitive football and you're wanting what we have, I
just think we need to tweak the schedules and we

(01:10:40):
need to make it not as subjective in the committee
room because they just stick to wins and losses, the
head to head stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
The notion of.

Speaker 13 (01:10:55):
You know, who you played really isn't factored in. You
can't have Notre Dame ahead of Miami. That makes no
sense to anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
Give us your tweets, go through your list of tweaks
that can fix what we look like. We're going to
be facing some potential issues.

Speaker 13 (01:11:13):
Yeah, and you know, if you talked to Texas, there
are five teams that are going to make the tournament
from the SEC. And if you look at the top
five teams in the SEC, there are two that are
seven and one and there are three that are six
and two. Texas is one of those six and two teams,
and they beat the other two six and two teams,

(01:11:34):
but they lost to Ohio State. The reason they lost
to Ohio State is they played Ohio State. They didn't
have to, and they're in. If we want games that
are going to be of significance in the non conference,
we can't penalize people. And yet I also understand if
you didn't win the game, you can't be rewarded as
if you did. So we need to have a way

(01:11:56):
to actually make standardize the non conference schedules as the
NFL does, and if we can do that, then we
can get to where we want to be. But all
this arguing and all this consternation actually as much a
part of the Thanksgiving table of college football as anything.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
Well, if you're wanting to do that, incentivize people to
do what Texas did. And in playing Ohio State in
Week one, don't you think.

Speaker 13 (01:12:24):
By the way they and by the way Bucky they
lost the game fourteen to seven, they outgained them by
two hundred yards, right, I mean, it just was one
of those first games that just didn't go well.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
Yeah, you just couldn't finish off some of those drives.
And so to me, it's if you're talking about it,
you know, basically you want to get to the root
of the problem follow the dollar. You would have to
think that the dollar says playing games, having games like
that to be kicking off seasons or having those in
the first few weeks of a season is going to
be more of a money generator than playing against some

(01:12:56):
paddy cake, you know, team that you know you're going
to blow out by fifty sixty points. And so don't
you think that the College Football and the committee included
kind of says, if we want this to continue, we
have to reward a team like Texas for going out
and playing that, because it's not like they haven't. This
isn't like they're a four loss team, you know that
just all of a sudden upset number three or beat

(01:13:17):
a number three team. I mean, they have two losses
in conference, and one was a bad one, but other
than that, the other the rest of their schedule looks
like they've done fairly.

Speaker 13 (01:13:27):
Well, really well, and they've played five top ten teams.
I mean, the facts of the matter are they look
like a championship caliber team on Friday night, and as
you're sitting there going are there eleven better teams than them?
Are twelve better teams than them? The answer is probably
not based on that showing, but the fact that they

(01:13:48):
lost three games is going to knock them out. Well,
they lost the third game by virtue of playing a
game in week one, which we are going to now
spend a lot of time focusing on, and yet we
won't focus on another game in week one where Miami
beat Notre Dame because we just like Notre Dame. I

(01:14:08):
don't get that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
Will Alabama if they lose on Saturday? Are you in
the camp of I don't think they should be penalized
because they earn the right to play an additional game
and have to play Georgia second time? Or do you
think a third loss regardless of when it came, considering
how much stiff competition is there to try to get

(01:14:31):
into this loaded tournament, do you think that it will
cost them their spot.

Speaker 13 (01:14:38):
Again with so many people knocking at the door. I
don't want to tell Caitlin de Bor there's no risk here.
I think there is risk, especially now if you told
me the game was they lose by a field goal
in overtime, I think they're fine. If you tell me
they get beat like Texas got beat thirty five to ten,
even though it was fourteen to ten going to the

(01:14:59):
fourth quarter. I think they're in harm's way because if
BYU wins the Big Twelve Championship, they're in. Does Texas
Tech fall out? Probably not, And that is where you
could slide Alabama out. So these are the.

Speaker 4 (01:15:18):
Kind of things you do.

Speaker 13 (01:15:20):
You know, there's a number of people pushing for Vanderbilt,
there's a number of people pushing for Miami. You might
solve the Miami issue with that move, right, So it's
not a safe place to be if you're Alabama.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
Are you resigned to Miami, Vanderbilt in Texas not getting
into this tournament no matter what unfolds.

Speaker 13 (01:15:42):
I am of the mind that those three teams are
going to be very, very disappointed. The only chance they
have is a Alabama loss.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
I mean, okay, you mentioned Texas Tech. If they lose,
do they lowed? I mean, I have a hard time
seeing how there really are where they are considering. I mean,
they lost to what Arizona State, that's their only loss, But.

Speaker 4 (01:16:09):
They haven't found their quarterback?

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
Yeah yeah, but they haven't really they haven't really followed like,
they haven't really beat anybody. I mean, they haven't really
played that tough of a schedule, and yet they look
like where they're sitting in the rankings going into tonight
and into selection Sunday, they look like they're they maybe
have a game to lose in a championship, in the
conference championship.

Speaker 13 (01:16:30):
They are absolutely at the top of the heat. Defensively,
they are. They blanked West Virginia this last weekend. Ohio
State is number one in the country in terms of
points allowed. Texas Tech is number three. Ohio State is
number one in yards allowed, Texas Tech is one I

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guess number six. So they are unique and clearly the
best team in the Big twelve defensively. So I think
the reason that they're kind of getting this kind that
they've just been bludgeoning teams curre of late.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
Yeah, Brick new Isisla's with us our college football inside
of course, former you'd have head coach and joins us
every Tuesday thanks to Taco time to get it all
over ourselves. That's how much college football is just a
beautiful mess right now. A lot of things to discuss,
and one of those things we have to discuss with
you is Lane Kiffin. I think it is embarrassing that

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we have all this exciting stuff going on for college
football and a prominent face in the game, doesn't think
coaching in the tournament is more important than a little
extra money and a better situation for himself immediately. I
think he could have gotten it either way if he
just coaches out the season like we do in the

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National Football League. Nobody leaves before the playoffs begin. So
I would just ask you your assessment of the Kiffin
situation and how you would fix it so that we
don't have another coach ever do this again and make
it look like the postseason doesn't mean anything.

Speaker 13 (01:18:05):
Well, I'm with you that it is a tragic situation
for the kids at Ole miss And I don't know
what will become of their offensive staff they. I know
that Charlie Strong or excuse me, Charlie Weis junior, got
on the plane with Lane. I don't know if he's
going back to help with the game planning. I don't

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have any idea. I know Joe Judge state that's the
only offensive coach that stayed. And Lane may be, you know,
mad at the fact that Keith Carter, the athletic director
at Mississis, Mississippi, told him he can't have it both ways.
You can't stay and finish and go to LSU. So
he might be saying to his offensive staff, you can't

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go back either, and you know, playing that that that
kind of tough guy stuff. It's a shame and it
should never happen and it's not hard to fix. We
just have to change the calendar. We have to get
college football to understand there are ways to do this.
And what we're doing tomorrow, guys, is signing Day.

Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
That's ridiculous.

Speaker 13 (01:19:09):
Yeah, that we're having a signing day tomorrow. I mean
a year ago people were out on the road. Right now,
they at least figured out how to make December dead.
All we have to do is put signing bait Day
back in February, move the transfer portal back to the
end of April early May, and you build your team

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from there and that's your fiscal year begins. You know
what would be the disadvantage? The coaches would say, well,
then I don't get to put my team together in
this spring semester. Well, the team getting put together in
the spring semester is all well and fine, except for
those teams that are still playing they have to actually
deal with a transfer portal at the same time they're

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playing for the semi finals. It's ludicrous that we can't
wait for it all to happen. And the facts of
the matter is, you can put your team together and
starting in May all the way through the summer months
in anticipation of the season. It makes sense. It might
be a little bit of a concession of an off season,
but given the amount of time hours that we're working

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and kids are spending doing football, it might be nice
to have a little bit of off time during the
winter months.

Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
Yeah, so I.

Speaker 13 (01:20:18):
Think we can fix this. I can think we can
fix it quickly and just take some people that are
committed to doing so to get in a room and
get it done.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
Why are they not? I mean, I'm with you, it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
I mean, but the personal issues aside from you know,
just kind of walking away from.

Speaker 13 (01:20:38):
The athletic directors of the world want to transfer portal
at the end of the spring. They want it there.
The coaches are the ones that want to know exactly
who's on my team and have a year to build
their cultures and all that stuff. The fact of the
matter is, if we all had the same amount of time,
we'd all there'd be no disadvantage, And there's plenty of
time to get this done, and this idea that we

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have to be three hundred and sixty five days a
year of football is nonsensical. People know how to use
the weight room, people know how to go out and
build build cultures. We can use weight rooms and we
can have all this offseason time that it can still
be productive. It might not be as much team building,
but you know what, then kids actually can go to school.

Speaker 4 (01:21:21):
When was the last.

Speaker 13 (01:21:22):
Time you guys heard of anybody being academically ineligible in
college football? N't do it anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Don't do it.

Speaker 13 (01:21:29):
We don't do it anymore. We are building professional teams,
and I would like to reintroduce these kids to college.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
Yeah, oh amen, amen preaching. Rick new Isiale is with us,
our college football insider. Well, let's get the conference championship Saturday.
I've already gone as far as saying I think Georgia
is gonna win by ten over Alabama. How do you
see that game going?

Speaker 13 (01:21:51):
I'm gonna go the other way.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
Wow.

Speaker 13 (01:21:52):
I think the Alabama boys believe they can beat Georgia.
They've done it time and time again. Kaylan Devor's two
to zero against Kirby Smart wearing the script day. I
just think he and Ryan Grebb will come up with
another plan that confounds Georgia. And as much as Georgia
has been playing great of late, and they have and

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to be credited h and I still think Gunner Stockton's
got an outside chance to win the Heisman if he
has a yeoman performance in this game. As I still
see this team as vulnerable without a great pass rush,
and if you're not putting Ty Simpson on a spot,
I think Ryan Grebb, Kaylan de Boor and Ty Simpson
can concoct the plan with those great receivers that can

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beat Georgia.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
Texas Tech has good that much better than BYU like
they showed during the regular season.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
Or will this one be at least tighter.

Speaker 13 (01:22:47):
I think it'll be tighter, but I still think there's
such an advantage with the Texas Tech defense that it
will not be a different outcome. I'm going to take
Texas Tech and remember the games in Arlington, Texas, so
you're gonna have a lot of Red Raider fans there.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
Indiana Ohio State one versus two Man. We've been waiting
a long time to figure out which of these two
teams is better so you tell me before the game starts,
which of these two teams is better.

Speaker 13 (01:23:14):
I'm going to take Ohio State Matt Patricia's defense and
the fact that Julian's saying is like the new Robin Hood.
I mean he can get a hundred paces away and
take an arrow out and hit an apple. I mean
his downfield accuracy is off the charts. And when you
do that with guys like Carnel Tate and Jeremiah Smith,

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who are open more often than not, it's something to behold.
I love the Indiana story. The question is can they
stay close enough to get a bye?

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
Wait, he'll say it hits puberty. I mean he looks
like he's six years old. Finally, Virginia versus Duke, I mean,
is there a chance that the ACC is not going
to be represented in the tournament this year at all?

Speaker 13 (01:23:58):
There is a chance this typer making a mechanism that
the ACC had and this got all the way down
to the fifth tiebreaker.

Speaker 4 (01:24:07):
Which put Duke into the end of the.

Speaker 13 (01:24:09):
Game, could come back to bite him. My feeling is
that if Duke wins this game, and they certainly can.
If Duke wins this game, they'll still get in as
the twelve seeds, because this committee is comprised of at
least half of them being athletic directors, and as at

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athletic directors, they do not want to deprive the ACC
of playoff money. They just don't want to do it.
They'll see this as we can call this strength of
schedule and then talk out of both sides of our mouth,
as the committee is prone to do, and just say
the strength of schedule in the ACC is superior to

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that of the Sun Belt and they can keep Old
keep James Madison from getting in. That's my take.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
So am I to assume based off of your reactions
to these games that we just ripped through, I'm feeling
like your Taco Time pick of the week is the
game that I'm going against. Is that right? Is Alabama
your Taco Time pick of the week.

Speaker 13 (01:25:16):
No, I think that line is too That time line
is too close. I'm taking the Ohio State Buckeyes. Okay,
all right, I'm laying five and a half and I'm
counting on Matt to Patricia. You know, he's given up
ninety three points on the year. They're the only team
of the one hundred and thirty six fbist teams that
has given up less than one hundred. I think Indiana

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sends it over the century mark, but not by much.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
You know, this is a sports is such a copycat thing.
I was thinking about this in Michigan, Ohio State with
Patricia on one side, wing Martindale on the other. Have
they just brought the NFL sophistication defense sophistication to the
college game? And now do you think that other programs
are going to try to copy it just to get
some NFL guy that's not quite working at the National

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Football League level anymore, but his his system is more
advanced than most of the college defensive coordinators. Is that
something that's real?

Speaker 13 (01:26:13):
I listen, what we know about college football is it
definitely is copycat and what works for one team. I mean,
look at James Madison, Bob Chesney's now going to UCLA. Yeah,
you don't think they're trying to hire Kurt Signetti again,
They certainly are. Yeah, And so yeah, if you see

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a trend happening, you're going to chase it. Kenny Dillingham
was the coordinator at Oregon for Dan Lanning. Arizona State's
doing well. Will Stein now on his way to Kentucky.
We're trying to catch a little lightning in a bottle
and at least we can sell that to the folks
that are going to supply the money for our programs.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
Wow, that was a lot of ground we had to
We didn't get into you, Dubbs, So we'll talk about
Jetfish is the second year with you next week. Thank you, sir,
We appreciate it. Enjoy all the.

Speaker 13 (01:27:05):
Football, always love it. See you guys all right.

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
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