Best of Chuck & Buck 12-29

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's get a sound strick.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Good morning, folks.

Speaker 3 (00:03):
Good morning everyone, Good morning, it's some time.

Speaker 4 (00:07):
Good morning lass ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 5 (00:09):
Ladies and gentleman.

Speaker 6 (00:10):
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school basketball stand What in the hell does that mean?

Speaker 7 (00:21):
Jumped any conclusions?

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Not a god.

Speaker 7 (00:23):
You've got to lower lower your expectations.

Speaker 6 (00:26):
Hard to believe he could once send a fastball to Pluto.

Speaker 8 (00:30):
I'm getting some bucky jacobs and vibes and former I'll
just openly admit I'm a fat, out of shaped X athlete.

Speaker 7 (00:36):
Now there's been a noticeable spike in your blood pressure.

Speaker 6 (00:39):
Five seven guard and a former college water polo and
national champion.

Speaker 5 (00:43):
Has a lot of useless crap up here.

Speaker 6 (00:45):
Wow, this is Chuck and Buck in the Morning with
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Speaker 7 (01:15):
Well, good Monday morning too. You welcome into the radio program.
That's right, we are going live. You're on a frost
brewed corselight. Choose Chill Monday. And when I say we
we got the whole band back together. Ashley Ryan is here.
Former Mariner Bucky Jacobson is here. My name is Chuck Powell.
We welcome you four hours coming your way will Monday
morning Quarterback. It from now until ten o'clock in the morning.

(01:38):
Hugh Mellon coming your way at eight o'clock to talk
some Seahawks football, Mike Holmgern at nine o'clock, and normally
Greg Bell joins us at seven oh five, but we're
gonna jump right to it. We got to get Cinderella
to the ball. He's a he is on a he
is in Carolina getting ready to fly back. And so
Greg Bell is joining us early today because we got

(02:00):
to make sure we check in with our Seahawks insiders.
So we welcome mister Bell.

Speaker 6 (02:04):
With a bell tolls. It must be seven o'clock and
time for twelfth Man News with Greg Bell. Brought to
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here's Greg Bell with Chuck and Buck.

Speaker 7 (02:26):
Come on in, Greg, good morning.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah, I'm Ricky Henderson. Ricky Henderson is Ricky Henderson for
you today?

Speaker 7 (02:33):
Oh yeah, you are literally leading off the show. So
we expect a home run or a walk? Which one
are you going to give.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Us, Ricky Anderson? It's a home run, walker a strakeout.

Speaker 7 (02:46):
If you walk, just know you've got to steal second
and third in order for you to you know, justify
this thing. Well, it's good to have you with us.
I'm sure that you're getting ready to board the plane.
So let's get in as much conversation as we can
about the Seahawks twenty seven to ten winners over the
Carolina Panthers yesterday to move to thirteen and three on

(03:06):
the season. Offense at times looked ugly, Greg, but the
defense was just phenomenal. I mean, you just don't see
NFL teams hold opponents to one hundred and thirty nine
total yards of offense. And so where does it start
with you? Is it concern about the offense or just

(03:26):
how impressed you are with what Mike McDonald did to
the Panthers yesterday defensively?

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Well, it's the defense, Chuck. This is a super Bowl
caliber defense. The concern, of course, is whether Sam Donald
continuing to give the ball away will subvert the Super
Bowl caliber defense. But we saw with the Rams in
the ten days before when they absolutely had to be
on the defense. Was three consecutive three and out stops
to get the Seahawks back in that game and rallying

(03:54):
at sixteen points down, Donald able to rally them. And
then yesterday the game began as I thought it was.
I had a feeling the three day layoffs last week,
rare Thursday off for Christmas, the East Coast trip at ten,
and that it was going to be a slog for
them to start out with what it was three three
and a half. I then the defense just takes over.
DeMarcus Lawrence may be the best player on the team

(04:15):
right now, and he took the game over, ripping the
ball from Hubbard and covering the fumble that set up
the first touchdown that really got the Seahawks bowing. And
then Julian Love on the first third down after that,
just baiting Bryce Young into an interception up the field.
They thought Ted McMillan was wide open and he was
anything but Beca's Love knew where the ball was going
to go. Donald to Barnard. They convert that into a

(04:39):
second touchdown, a fourth down stop because Mafaam Lawrence got
the sacks. Fourth down stop turns into the third touchdown.
The three touchdowns were directly because of the Seahawks defense.
They can win a Super Bowl with the way their
defense is playing, yes, including Sunday night, so Saturday night
at San Francisco. But I still have big concerns. And

(05:01):
if I'm a Seahawks fan, I gotta think, can they
really win and get to the Super Bowl with a
quarterback who leads the NFL with twenty turnovers and keeps
giving the ball away? That's the big concern. The running
game is now going Sharbone with his second career one
hundred yard game yesterday, one hundred and seventy plus yards
on the ground. But the defense is where they're winning.

(05:21):
I mean fifty four yard fifty three yards passing for
Bryce yard. Guys, that's the most completed twenty four plus
pass attempts to the completions of whatever. It was so
early in the morning here in these and only fifty
three yards is that's the fewest yards for that many
pass attempts since nineteen eighty David Woodley remember him? Oh yeah,

(05:42):
that's the last time a quarterback threw that often, we
got that fewer yards against the defense. They can win
a Super Bowl with their defense.

Speaker 8 (05:50):
Well, there's no doubt their defense ge is something else,
and they went out in there and showed it. I mean,
it'll be curious. I'll be curious to see how it
pans out against the Niners. I think, you know, they
just as a team offensively are better than the Panthers.
And yet the Panthers, you know, we're right there fighting
for a spot in the playoffs as well. So when
it comes to Sam Darnold and giving the ball away,

(06:11):
I mean, he's had some he's had some bad plays obviously,
and yet he's had some bad luck in some too
where you know, in that fumble to some degree was
a hand going forward or not. You know, it's debatable
for sure, but the one down in the end zone,
you're basically taking points off the board.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Well it didn't work out that.

Speaker 8 (06:28):
Way because of the turnover and score right bang bang
right after that. But I mean that to me was
one of the bigger ones of you can't make that mistake.
That's part of the reason that I think they shipped
Geno Smith out of here, was turning the ball over
when you're already down there in the red zone. So
how bad was that play in particular?

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Yeah, that's you're right, there's a field goal in hand
there for the lead. You throw that ball either out
of the end zone or to where only Smiths and
jig But can get it. And the defensive back Mike
Jackson had the position on an overthrow, so if anything,
if he underthrew that, he had a better chance to
have a touchdown. And if you're going to overthrow it,
you got to overthrow it out back to the end zone.

(07:07):
And that's what he said after the game. I got
to either put it where Smith and Jigwick can get
it or nobody can get it in and stanc complete.
But to play for the field goal, that's particularly going.
I would argue that Donald is lucky. He should have
had two more interceptions in the first half. He should
have had an interception on the first drive of the
game when he he had a sharpon a checkdown and

(07:28):
he ignored him and he rolled out away from pressure
to the left and threw the ball off a helmet.
How many times have we seen him throw a ball
off a helmet off a defender this year? That's at
least three times a Tampa Bay game, with the interception
being one of them that ended up losing the game
because of it. They lost the opener because Donald gave
the ball away in the red zone with ten seconds
left in a four point game. The defense has made

(07:52):
it so it hasn't bitten them enough, but it has
bitten them, including against the forty nine ers. I wrote
for the Newstribute this morning or last night. Can they
win this way? And I have been asking this for
weeks and the answer is yes they can. But can
they win this way against the forty nine ers? Can
they win this way in the NFC title game? Can

(08:13):
they win this game way on the road in the
playoffs if they have to go there? If they lose
on Saturday night in San Francisco. Those are the questions
that McDonald after the game. I asked them about the tournaments.
How concerned are you with Donald's turnovers? And he said, yeah,
it is about the ball, beat and jeopardy. We have
to be better earlier in plays and what he means
by that is past protection, hot reads, the quarterback going

(08:36):
for the hot reads rather than extending the play, and
sometimes just the defense having a better play call than
Kalle Kubiak and the offense has. But it's got their attention.
It's the one chink in their armor. It's the one
Achilles heel to Seattle right now. Otherwise this is a
bona FID number one seed home Field super Bowl too.

(08:57):
Except for that.

Speaker 7 (08:58):
One hundred and sixty three yards rushing yesterday, Zach Charbonay
maybe his best game as a Seahawk yet. Man, it
just felt like a day where Ken Walker just wasn't
going where the play was designed. And I know that's
been a hit against him for a long period of time.
I mean, you're getting ready to play the biggest regular

(09:18):
season game of the year with the number one seed
on the line, and then the playoffs to follow. Is
there a chance Zach Sharbonay is wrestling away the starting
job from Ken Walker here at this crucial point in
the year.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Well, yesterday he did because they just steed up riding
hot hand. Once Sharbonay took off for twenty nine yards
in the first half, you could see they were going
to go mostly to him, and they did in the
second half. Again, Walker didn't have anywhere to run a
lot of times when he's running away from the design
calls because there's two or three defenders waiting on him
as soon as he gets the ball. He still had

(09:53):
some remarkable one and two yard runs yesterday. McDonald's saying
all the right things about how Walker's really playing well,
doing everything we ask of him. He's not getting blocking
and opportunities at times. It will be interesting to see
how the carrier split against San Francisco. But guys, I
think last night again showed and the Colts, even with
the Grandpa Philip rivers the week before, this forty nine

(10:15):
or defense is not the one it even began this year,
and not the one of previous years. No Fred Warner,
no Nick Bosa, no pass rush. They've got holes in
the secondary. War doesn't play for him anymore. Upton Stout
got hurt last night. The Seahawks are going to score.
They just don't give the ball over and I think
they went on Saturday night in Santa Clara. They're gonna

(10:37):
score whether it's Walker or Charbona is the lead back.
There are holes in that secondary, and I really think
this could be a huge passing night for Kubiak and
Darnold again if he just doesn't get the ball away.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
How about the concern.

Speaker 8 (10:52):
I mean, we don't have we kind of a shorter
week with New Year's even New Year's Day coming around,
So I'm already gonna ask you one about the Niner.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
I mean, just no doubt.

Speaker 8 (11:00):
Oh, they kept him in check, and I mean they
kept the defense, kept the Panthers offense. I mean obviously
just not doing just about anything. And yet there was
a few different times where he was running and getting
some nice little chunks of yards. I mean, now you're
gonna have Christian McCaffrey and Kyle shann ain't coming out there.
So any concern about the offense maybe trying to get

(11:20):
into a shootout with his team.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Oh yeah, A lot of concerned with Christian McCaffrey. They
held him down in the first game and that was
with Trent Williams healthy. Williams could barely walk last night
for the forty nine Ers, didn't play a hamstring injury.
The short week doesn't help him in the forty nine
ers offense. Last night after the game, Kyle Shanahan was saying,
pretty much whining about having another short week. Well, it's

(11:44):
not as short a week as the Seahawks have because
they just got home late last night early this morning.
You say it's a short week, no New Year's even
news day going, Well, it's for something that's true. But
for the Seahawks, they're going to roll right through its
starting today because of the shorter week, and they'll be
practicing on New Year's even New Year's Day. It'll be
interesting now because of the shorter week to see if

(12:06):
the guys who missed, including the starting left tackle Charles
Cross Kobe Bryant has safety. Although Tyre Coup put really
well yesterday, especially in tackling, can those guys get back
on the shorter week. Crosses injury the hamstring, We've talked
about it not an injury to come back on short time.
This might be another game that Josh Jones starts at

(12:27):
left tackle, so they can give another week and they
hope too if they win with a buy to give
Charles Cross time off for that hamstring. But to answer
your question, yeah, Christian McCaffrey is always a problem and
always a problem against Seattle in the pass game. He's
got a thousand yards they can eat rushing and receiving
or damn near close. That's a concern for Seattle's defense.

(12:50):
They got to start McCaffrey's runs early down so that
it's third and longer for Brock Perdy. In the forty
nine ers offense, Perdy and the Niners are going to
go that deep middle of the field like they did
last night against Chicago, like the Rams exploited the Seahawks
with in two games ago. Kyle Shanahan, I think that's
where the game plan is gonna start. You can do

(13:10):
that if you're running the ball and getting effective shorter
third downs so that the pass us doesn't affect you.
Do Seahawks have a chance at it's longer third downs,
which means stopped McCaffery early.

Speaker 7 (13:21):
Yeah, far more aesthetically a pleasing of a game last
night that the forty nine Ers played than the ugly
thing that you watched Charlotte yesterday. So I think the
Zigg's gonna have to ugly it up if they're gonna
win this game, and they're very good at that. So
we shall see how big of a play now in
hindsight was the J. C. Horn penalty. I mean, Carolina

(13:43):
seemed to have all the momentum in the game at
that moment, and so Seahawks end up winning it by
seventeen points. But how big of a play in hindsight
was that face mask penalty on JC Horn.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Well, even at the time it was seventeen ten. You're right,
the building was allowed for their own time in the game,
although there was a lot of Seahawks fens there yesterday.
But it was seventeen ten late third quarter on a
third down. Really savvy played by Jackson Smith and Jigba
a veteran play. He made sure he snapped his head
back when the hand got on the face mask by
Horn and then made sure the officials saw the face

(14:22):
mask as he ran down out of bounds, well short
of the line to gain I think it was thirty
to twenty at the time. I thought that might just
be a five yard face mask, but Smith and jigb
really sold it. I mean like an Italian soccer player
sold it. Went to his knees, just looked like he'd
been shot. The officials decided it was fifteen. Smith and

(14:43):
Jigba knew in that interm well he was laying on
the ground, rolling around like he was looking for a
red card, that the officials are trying to decide between
five and fifteen a five yard penalty. They don't get
the first down there fifteen automatic first down with the
personal foul. That's what the officials ended up flagging. That
was a Tyler Lockett like cell job by Jackson. I

(15:04):
don't say I didn't say that that he didn't get
his face mask grab, but he may sure made it
look like it was the worst face mask grab in
the history of the Seahawks franchise. Hey right, that was
the that was Carolina's last chance. Looking back, they never
got closer than that. But credit Smiths and Jigua, who,
by the way, said another NFL mark yesterday. He's got

(15:26):
seventeen hundred yards. He's the youngest, he's under twenty four still,
and he joins Justin Jefferson as one of only three
players in NFL history to get a seventeen hundred yards
season before his twenty fourth birthday. Man, is he about
to get a buttload of money this offseason. He's going
in the final year of his contract next year. That's

(15:46):
when the Seahawks always re up him. We're talking perhaps
a two hundred million dollar deal for the NFL's leading receiver.

Speaker 7 (15:53):
Well, he needs the two thousand yards receiving this year,
which means nearly three hundred Saturday against the forty nine Ors.
So I think that should be a stated goal. Yeah, yeah, quick,
fifteen seconds on this Rashid Shaheed, any update on the concussion.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
He's in the concussion protocol. This is another bad week
in a short week, six games days between games for
him to come back. That's a loss. That guy could
break games and special teams. I was talking to Jay
Harbo about that last week. Harbo said, he makes shit,
makes a lot of their schemes look great. Plus he's
taken defenses off of Smiths and Jigbit with the way

(16:32):
he can mum in the middle of the field. That's
a big loss of the Yuks and it doesn't look
good on the six day rest of shah he can
come back from a concussion.

Speaker 7 (16:40):
All right, Well, it's gonna be a fun week a preview,
no question about it. This is what it's all about.
Save travels on your way back from Charlotte. And thank
you very much for taking time this morning to make
this work.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Thanks for flexing.

Speaker 7 (16:53):
Talk to you all week.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
All right.

Speaker 7 (16:55):
Greg Bell's flexing flexing on you out there with all
his great information and insight. Seahawks winning over the Carolina
Panthers twenty seven to ten. Our segment with Greg Bell
normally conducted at seven oh five, but he had to
come on early today to make his flight in Charlotte
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in a little different way than we normally are on
a Monday. Let's find out what is on tap for

(17:41):
the rest of the show. What's on TEP, what's on top?
That's Monday? What do you think is on tab? It's
Monday morning, Quarterback Day. Hu Millan will be with us
at eight o'clock, Mike Homgern'll be with us at nine o'clock,
and instead of Greg, we'll get to sink our teeth
into this twenty seven to ten Seahawks winner with the
Carolina Panthers at seven oh five this morning, and then

(18:03):
we won't go too far away from beginning the preview
of Seahawks forty nine Ers because that's what is on deck.
So they have set the schedule. This might be I
don't know, if you're early morning people, you know you're
up at six o'clock listening to the radio program and all.
You might not have seen this, but you're a Seahawks fan,

(18:24):
so you probably did. Seahawks will be playing the forty
nine ers this week Saturday at five o'clock. So they
flexed the entire last weekend of the regular season in
the National Football League, and they always flex it to
highlight those games that have everything on the line. So
the Sunday night game is going to be Baltimore at Pittsburgh.

(18:47):
Winner takes the division gets in the playoffs, the losers
completely out. Won't be the same situation obviously when we
take on the forty nine ers, but there's enough at
play here. It's a great enough of a rivalry that
they they do want to showcase it. And so Saturday night,
the Seahawks and the forty nine ers will play at
five o'clock and the division just playing simple the division

(19:09):
championship and the number one seeds on the line, who
ever wins that game gets the number one seed.

Speaker 8 (19:14):
Yeah, I mean it's a playoff game, but it's not
the one and done type of playoff game, and it's
it's a big one you get not just to win
the division, more so to get that number one seed.
I think both of them are going to be going
out there fighting hard to figure out who can come
out on top of this thing. It's crazy to think
that the Rams at this point don't have a chance
at the number one seed, and yet the Niners still do.

Speaker 7 (19:35):
Yeah, exactly, And the Rams will be playing tonight Monday
Night Football. I mean, they can still finish ahead of
the forty nine Ers and the divisional standings, but as
the way the tiebreaker goes, it's a head to head
swarm and if the forty nine Ers were to win Saturday,
that means that they would have the better head to
head record against the three teams if they ended up

(19:57):
with the same record in the NFC West, And so
the forty nine win the division, win the number one seed,
so the Rams have no shot at it at this stage.
So that's how that cookie has crumbled Carolina. Now with
the loss of the Seahawks, they still have a shot
at getting into the playoffs. They got a couple of
ways of getting in. We'll go over both of them
a little bit later on, but the cleanest way is

(20:19):
just to beat Tampa Bay Saturday, so the NFL will
showcase that game as well at one thirty on Saturday afternoon.
Both of those games will be on ABC. All right,
College football playoff that resumes on Wednesday at four point
thirty with Miami versus Ohio State, and then three games
will be played Thursday on New Year's Day. Kraken have

(20:40):
now won four straight. They defeated the Philadelphia Flyers last
night four to one. They'll try to make it five
in a row tonight against Vancouver and that game will
start at seven o'clock at Climate Pledge Arena. And the
stove was quiet over the weekend, but the Mariners are
still being discussed as a team that is very interested
in making moves to add a bat before the offseason

(21:04):
comes to a close, so certainly worth monitoring. All Right,
we'll get a chance to dive into all of these
stories at great length today, both with our experts and
amongst ourselves coming up on the show. But as we
typically provide on a Monday morning at six point thirty,
it's time for cold turkey sandwich. A board of scores.
A look around the National Football League. Next on KJR,

(21:28):
Steven said, racing after it hel pocket free, Steven said.

Speaker 8 (21:31):
Down the ice below the goal line, looked at frocks.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Tandler.

Speaker 7 (21:43):
Steven said, from below the goal line, tried to center it.
It goes off of Ellie Toland and into the goal.
It's a three nothing, Seattle cracking lead. Ellie Tolband has
points on back to back goals. Winning is fun. E Yeah,
those he just laughed. They were just laughing because Alan eff,

(22:06):
we just laughing. We are winning. They're like, this is
so easy. It wasn't long ago we were losing so much.
This is so much more fun. It's so much more fun.
It's fun.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Me.

Speaker 7 (22:17):
Yeah, we are laughing.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
We are friends.

Speaker 7 (22:21):
Do you remember two weeks ago when we were crying,
Good morning, happy Monday to you Live Sports Talk radio
for you here on this some Monday, and we are
back together. Ashley Ryan is here, Bucky Jacobson is here.
My name is Chuck Powell. We've got you till ten
o'clock and almost everything we're going to talk about is
Seahawks are related. So let us just squeeze in our

(22:43):
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win four to one over the Philadelphia Flyers. They've won

(23:04):
four straight games. They will take on Vancouver tonight at
seven o'clock, so it is a game day for the
Cracking to try to make it five in a row,
and it will be at home against the rival Canucks.
Hot stove and quiet over the weekend. But nonetheless, there
are some warm rumors out there about how Jerry Depoto

(23:25):
and Justin Hollander are you kicking a lot of tires
out there and trying to make another significant move for
a bat sometime soon and certainly before the offseason comes
to a close. So that's interesting. College football, the playoff
resumes Wednesday, New Year's Eve at four point thirty. The
first game will be Miami versus Ohio State and then

(23:49):
three games on New Year's Day. Kyle Whittingham, it was
a big cop topic of conversation between Ashley and I
on Friday show. We were just hearing that he had
been become the front runner for the job. Since that show,
he did get the job. So he is the new
head coach at Michigan, coming out of a very brief
retirement to become the next head coach of the Michigan Wolverine.

(24:12):
Said Kyle, winning him, this is the last thing that
I setting out to achieve in my career is try
to win a national championship, and I've got a chance
to do that at Michigan. And then of course you've
got the National Football League. My goodness, at is wonderful theater?
Is it not? The National Football League? They do a
really good job of entertainments.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
They've figured out.

Speaker 8 (24:36):
I would think the formula somehow of how to script
all these games too be so great.

Speaker 7 (24:42):
Yes, yes, exactly. Seahawks win over the Carolina Panthers twenty
seven to ten. Unfortunately, it wasn't that easy. If not
for Mike McDonald's defense, this could have been a problem yesterday.
But we do have Mike McDonald's defense. They held the
Carolina Panthers to US one hundred and forty three total
yards of offense and then created a couple of turnovers

(25:07):
which led to some pretty easy drives and the Seahawks
win at twenty seven to ten. They improved to thirteen
and three, tying a franchise record for most wins in
a regular season. They have a chance to break that
record on Saturday night, wrap up the division and get
the number one seed in the entire NFC playoffs, which
is more important today than ever since they've expanded to

(25:30):
fourteen teams. That one seed not only gets home field
advantage throughout the NFC playoffs, they don't have to play
in the first round at all when everyone else does.
And so it's huge and the showcase will be in
Santa Clara. It'll be the Seahawks versus the forty nine ers,

(25:51):
who also won yesterday over the Chicago Bears forty two
to thirty eight in a shootout, and so the winner
of this game will win the division and will take
the number one seed. It's as simple as that. They
have earmarked the game for Saturday at five o'clock so
that it can have the entire National Stage two itself,
Shox forty nine ers don't get the Sunday night game

(26:13):
that'll belong to Baltimore and Pittsburgh. That kickoff will take
place at five point twenty, the last game of the
regular season. The winner of that game gets into the
playoffs as division champs. The loser is out completely. Carolina
and Tampa also will be showcased Saturday afternoon is their game.
The winner of that game likely moves on. Now there

(26:36):
is a wrinkle that if Atlanta wins out, that Carolina
can lose and still win the division. Oh yes, so
that would require the Falcons to win both because that
means all three teams are eight to nine. The Falcons
have already been eliminated, but the tiebreaker changes. If there's
a three way tie, that the tie breaker would go

(26:59):
to Carolina. So there is a chance that Tampa could
win that game and still not win the division because
Tampa lost yesterday to Miami. So a lot going on
certainly in the National Football League, But our focus the Seahawks.
We certainly are going to talk about their matchup with
the forty nine ers with both of our experts, Hugh

(27:20):
Millen and Mike Homgrin in the eight o'clock and nine
o'clock hours today, But we haven't even had a chance
to sink our teeth in to this Seahawks win over
the Carolina Panthers as a show. So we're going to
do that right now here on Chuck and Buck. Those
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Seahawks get it done. And look, I realized there, I mean,
I realize how much more aesthetically pleasing that forty two
to thirty eight seems. And I don't know why we
do this, but we just automatically assume that the teams
that make offense look easy are the better teams, when

(28:03):
often that is not the case. I mean, a couple
of years ago, we were sure the Mariners were a
bad team. A lot we weren't, but a lot of
people were sure the Mariners were a bad team because
they won with pitching and they couldn't score any runs
and they still almost made the playoffs. And they were
never a bad team, they just weren't all that aesthetically

(28:23):
pleasing because they were so offensively challenged. I don't think
the Seahawks are an offensively challenged team. The statistics over
the course of sixteen games bear out that they are not,
but certainly they were yesterday. To me, that was Sam
Donald's biggest struggle. I know he threw four interceptions against
the Rams earlier this year, but he had a lot
of big plays in that game. Yesterday. It felt like

(28:46):
a struggle from beginning to end for the first time
for Sam Donald in a Seahawk uniform. And yet, and
I was glad to hear Coach Bucky say this. Maybe
Bucky'll disagree with coach, but when Coach Bucky said, you know,
when we're starting to talk about the forty nine ers,
it's very easy, I think to go to forty nine
ers looked better last night. They're playing better, They're hot.

(29:10):
That's what a real one seed looks like, considering how
much the Seahawks kind of clunked things offensively. But I'm
glad that it wasn't missed on you, and I hope
it's not missed on a lot of other people. There
are a lot of different ways to win in the
National Football League, and you can win it all with
dominant defense and timely offense, and what we saw from

(29:30):
the Seahawks yesterday was about as dominant a defensive performance
as you can see in the National Football League against
a starting quarterback. I mean, maybe you see that against
a backup or a third stringer because you're at the
end of the year and they're down two quarterbacks. But
that was against Bryce Young, who's been lauded this year
for how much he's improved, and the Seahawks held them

(29:51):
to one hundred and forty three yards of total offense
in the game. And when it was clear that Sam
was struggling, what did they do. We're gonna take the
ball away on consecutive Carolina Panthers possessions, set them up
on a short field, and we're gonna we got you. Sam.
You're not playing your best right now, but don't worry

(30:13):
about it. We're not gonna let this game get away
from us. And they just absolutely took it from Carolina.
I mean, I've seen a lot of quarterbacks, including Matt Stafford,
look confused against Mike McDonald's defense. Bryce Young took the
cake yesterday. It looked like he had never played football
at times during that game yesterday.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Well, I mean, coming into that game.

Speaker 8 (30:33):
It was you kind I mean, I don't know how
everybody else felt coming into it. When you think of
the Panthers, they're one of those head scratchers, like they'll
go out there and beat a good team. They got
swept by the New Orleans Saints. Now, maybe the Saints
are better since they got the Tyler shuck out in there,
and they were horrible at the beginning of the season.
So I'll, you know, give them a little bit of

(30:54):
credit to the fact that they beat them. But I
don't think of the Carolina Panthers as I mean, ultimately,
I still kind of think the Rams are the cream
of the crop. I mean, they end up going out
there and putting what thirty seven points up against the
Seahawks defense. That's the first game. He did look somewhat confused.
He did look like, whoa, what in the heck is
he doing? He made the adjustments that it took a

(31:15):
whole heck of a lot of things to bounce the
way of the Seahawks for them to put themselves in
a position they're in right now. But yeah, I think
that there still is the Seahawks defense is legit. I
don't think it's anything you have to say, well, you
gave up thirty seven points to the Rams.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
That means you're not good.

Speaker 8 (31:30):
No, that's a credit to the Rams and the fact
that Matthew Stafford and pukin Nakua they can put it
on you regardless of who or how good your defense is.
I just think when it comes to the Niners, I
don't think their defense poses the threat to be much
of an issue for the Seahawks offense. So I can

(31:50):
see the Seahawks offense going out there and scoring close
to thirty against them, and yet I do I have
a hard time thinking that.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Their offense is.

Speaker 8 (32:01):
Good enough to score thirty against the Seahawks, even though
I think the Rams are.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
I think the Rams offense is different. I don't think this.

Speaker 8 (32:08):
I mean, the Niners have Christian McCaffrey, and they have
figured out a way to get the ball to a
couple other guys, and Rock Perty's playing good football. But
I don't feel like they're gonna go out there and
put thirty on the Seahawks. And so they do need
to kind of make it a little bit ugly to
where they're not going out there and putting up big
numbers offensively.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
And I think they win it.

Speaker 9 (32:26):
I think the Rams are a more balanced team, just
offensively and defensively. Defensively, they're a better team. But I
was watching that game last night thinking, well, I think
our defense could I mean, the forty nine ers offense
is good, but I didn't see anything spectacular that I thought,
you know, our defense could handle. Obviously, Christian McCaffrey is scary,
but we have done pretty well in at least slowing

(32:49):
down the run from I mean, Jon Robinson didn't get
one hundred yards and he was pretty scary. So we'll see.

Speaker 7 (32:55):
Yeah, well, yeah, we'll talk more about Seahawks forty nine
ers here in a moment. But yes, just a dominant
defensive performance for the Seahawks against the Carolina Panthers yesterday.
And then that leads you to, all right, so what
are we looking at offensively? I mean, we've been talking
about this turnover issue with Sam donald all year long.
We know the statistics, we're reminded of them all the time,

(33:17):
ab how often he's turned it over, and that typically
is a dangerous thing. Hugh and I had a lengthy
conversation about Sam Donaldson and x's and o's on Friday.
We're both in the let it rip department. With Mike McDonald,
I mean, I want Sam Donald to play aggressively. I
don't want him to play like that yesterday. I mean,

(33:40):
that was a poor performance and he had the two turnovers,
but he probably should have had four in the contest.
And so I will agree with the sentiment that you're
not gonna win in the tournament if you're going to
be minus three turnovers like you were against the Rams
and the last game and that crazy comeback. All right,

(34:02):
you pulled it off one time, You're not going to
be able to do that against the best competition that
the world has to offer in consecutive games, three games
in a row, or maybe four games in a row.
God forbid that you would have to play. So he's
got to tighten it up. There's no question. The trick
to it is tighten it up without sacrificing who you are.

(34:25):
And that was sloppy yesterday. That was sloppy from Sam.
That's the that's the first time where I'm just like, man,
you know, that was a Geno Smith interception in the
red zone getting picked off by Mike Jackson. And then
there was the I realized that the crazy fumble play
was weird, but man, you just he turned it into a,

(34:49):
to use your word, a fiasco, including tackling a three
d and fifty pounds defensive tackle with his throwing shoulder
who didn't even have the ball at the time. I mean,
he did not play well enough yesterday. And I hope
that that is just an isolated incident against the Carolina Panthers,

(35:09):
because I don't want to believe that Sam Donald has
a turnover issue, but there's no question this is now
a couple games in a row where he's turned the
ball off over too frequently. I think he's played his
sloppiest here in the last couple of weeks. And you're
not gonna be able to get away with that in
an NFL tournament, not against the best competition in the world,
not four games in a row.

Speaker 8 (35:28):
No, I mean yeah, because I think your defense can
put it on somebody like Bryce Young and make him
look futile. And I mean the second that they scored
the touchdown to put him up what was a ten
to three, I thought, well that's over.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
I don't think that.

Speaker 8 (35:41):
I don't think the Panthers are going to be able
to even match the ten let alone more than ten,
and it did kind of come out that way where
it's kind of a walk away. But I'm with you,
it's you're going to run into an offense somewhere along
the line. Could be the Rams, could be any team
out there that is going to be able to put
up so points and so you can't have won the

(36:02):
costly turnovers that literally take points off the board. Maybe literally,
but the idea of you have at least three points
kind of in the bag, especially with your kicker and
you're throwing that interception, you're.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Not gonna be able to have that.

Speaker 8 (36:15):
Fumbles are gonna happen at times when you're when it's
blind side and the guy hits your arm, that's gonna happen.
Some of his interceptions have been good passes that clank
off hands and go into defenders. So I think that
Hugh does a good job explaining it. We all discuss
it where it's like that wasn't that bad, but like
that one down in the end zone, that's not good.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Bad, Yeah, that's not good.

Speaker 8 (36:38):
There's times when he does make mistakes, and now I
think that there's two ways of looking at these things.
Sometimes where it's like, okay, you got a good defense,
just don't turn the ball over. Just don't give them
short fields to make your defense's job more difficult. Make
them drive the whole length of the field. But the
offense is also good enough at times where it's like,

(36:59):
let it rip. And if at times you make a
pass down the field and it's a turnover and they
get the ball at their own thirty yard line, we.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Feel okay about that, you know what I mean.

Speaker 8 (37:07):
So it's like, don't turn the ball over when you
have points on the board, don't turn the ball over
when you're backed up against your own end zone where
essentially they automatically have points on the board. But all
of that between the twenties, let that thing rip. But
if it all of a sudden bounces off your guy
and is an interception or they they disguise it and
trick your quarterback, because out of five hundred pass attempts

(37:28):
over the course of the season, you're gonna get tricked.
Sometimes Tom Brady would get tricked. Sometimes there's nobody that
doesn't get tricked at times, and so to me, it's
let it rip at certain times, but then be situationally aware,
make sure you're not doing make sure you're not putting
the ball at risk when you know by bad decisions.
The ball can be at risk at times, just with
with you know, elements or you know, slippery ball, or

(37:48):
it goes off your receiver's hands or something. But don't
make bad decisions and put the ball at risk when
you're down getting ready to score, or when you're backed
up against your end zone and giving them easy points.

Speaker 9 (37:57):
Well, and it did seem like, at least in the
first half, some of those were like the amount of
batted balls, those were bad decisions. It was like, how
do you not see the defensive person in between you
and the person you're trying to throw it to. And
so I do think he got lucky with the fact
that he didn't have as many turnovers. I mean, there
was a how many times were you guys sitting there
watching it? Oh, okay, he got away with one, And

(38:18):
so it is definitely a concern. But I also think
just offensively, it seemed like we were playing very conservatively
and very afraid to turn the ball over. We were
playing I don't know that's how I felt.

Speaker 7 (38:32):
I don't think I feel that way, and that look
the bad there's a batted ball issue. I mean, we'll
need Hugh and coach to tell us you know how
to fix that. Yeah, because I don't know what I mean.
It's just a jungle of six foot six inch guy's
arms and limbs that are that are right there. It's
not like he's five to nine trying to throw over

(38:54):
a wall of humanity. I mean, I don't know what
you can do about it. But once it gets to
the point where it's happening four or five times a game,
you know, then it needs to be addressed. Look, I
think that I think Bucky's got the right of it.
I do want them to let it rip, but there
are times I need you to be a little more conservative.

(39:16):
I will happily live with Sam Darnold finishing minus one
in the turnover battle the entire tournament. You want to
tell me that I'll take minus one in every single
game in the tournament turnover ratio, yes, please. But I
don't want minus two. I certainly don't want minus three.

(39:36):
Even though they won minus three against what we're discussing
might be the best team in the National Football League,
the Los Angeles Rams. They had minus three and won
that game, so they're so much good to great about
this Seahawks team. They have a great defense, they have
great special teams, they have a great number one wide receiver,

(40:00):
and so you when you can make up for a
turnover and a half per game, I think I think
you're good enough overall to do that. But you can't
sit there and lose by minus two, not in the playoffs,
and so just the carelessness. Just shore up the carelessness

(40:22):
without it affecting your aggressiveness. That to me is gonna
be the sweet spot on whether or not the Seahawks
are in the super Bowl this year, or or if
they were talking about a disappointing season at the end
of the year or a disappointing conclusion.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Yes season, yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 8 (40:43):
To me, it's the every game is so different that
I mean, you could be in a battle against a
team where it's like both teams are moving the ball
and both teams are putting up points and there is
only one turnover. If it comes in the final drive
when you're needing to go down to score, you can't
have it. So to me, it's the idea of if
there's one thing I know you've said it, I know Hughes.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Talked about it.

Speaker 8 (41:06):
A lot of people understand and respect a thing about
Sam where even when he makes a mistake, he doesn't
seem to get rattled to where he doesn't still try
to stuff the next one in there. That Now, the
problem with that is sometimes that turns into a four
interception game because you're not scared because of your poor
your bad play before that, Well, I can't throw it again.

(41:28):
This is a bad comparison, But to me, when you
were just talking, Tim Tebow was not a great quarterback.
Tim Tebow knew that everybody thought he wasn't a great quarterback.
When he would throw an interception, you could basically bet
on the next five to six throws were going to
miss the receiver, but even further missed the defender like
he was an a dirt it five yards out in

(41:49):
front of the receiver where there was no chance that
was gonna get picked off. Sam Donald doesn't do that.
He just Okay, I made a mistake, whether it was
a bad throw or a bad decision, I made a mistake,
But I'm gonna make in the next throw and tip
he does, and he typically doesn't. He typically does more
good throws than bad throws, and that's where you're talking
about overall. If those those good throws outweigh the one

(42:09):
bad throw, possibly two bad throws, if your defense can
take one away as well, then you're gonna wind up
on the winning side of things because of that defense.
Because there is some potency to the offense. I mean,
Jackson Smith and Jigba and and company. They've moved the
ball down the field. I mean, they've scored what thirty
plus points in five different halves this season, so they
can do some damage to you. But that wouldn't happen
if he got scared and started playing two passive.

Speaker 7 (42:32):
Well, the defense bailed you out yesterday, and I think
Sam's bailed himself out plenty of times this year. Made
a bad play and then came back and made ten
good playoffs to overcome that. And that's the Sam that
I can live with. Yesterday, defense bailed you out. They
created the turnovers. You had a terrible first half. He
had three points at halftime. For goodness sake, that was ugly.

(42:52):
Against the Carolina Panthers. You threw for all, you had
a one hundred and twenty five total passing yards in
the game. I mean that was the first game that
the running game looked better than the passing game, I
think all season long. So there are a couple of signs.
There are a couple of signs there that Sam's not
playing his best football at the most important time of

(43:14):
the season. So to me, it's just that sweet spot
of being just as aggressive as you've been and yet
you know there's got to be a little more care
in those precious areas. And I think that I'm not
going to call it a turnover issue, but certainly we're

(43:35):
trending away from great Sam Donald here the last couple
of weeks, and it's a bad time to be doing that,
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Speaker 7 (44:43):
All right, good morning, a live radio for you. Here.
That's right, Monday Morning Quarterback session. Ashley Ryan's here, Bucky Jacobson.
My name is Chuck powellin for the next couple of
hours the best of the business. Mike Homeran at nine
o'clock and Hugh Millan ur QB one joining us now
to discuss Seahawks football. We got a game to recap,
we got a game to preview, man, we got a

(45:04):
lot to discuss. The theater of the National Football League.
They do have a way of making it awfully entertaining.
And joining us now on the program is our QB one.
Good morning, Hugh, good morning. Great to be with you.
Oh man, what a show the NFL put on this weekend.
We got another one coming up here this upcoming weekend.
But let's talk to Seahawks twenty seven to ten over

(45:26):
the Carolina Panthers. Where does the conversation start with Hugh
Millan about this game?

Speaker 5 (45:31):
Well, I think you just have to acknowledge the defense
Carolina that they didn't look real good. Obviously, Seattle just
dominated a team that was fighting for their division. That
was a team that a couple weeks ago they put
up thirty one points against the Rams in a victory

(45:51):
at home.

Speaker 7 (45:53):
And you know, they beat.

Speaker 5 (45:54):
Green Bay on the road when green Bay was flying high.
I mean they have, They've been over thirty points on
four games. I mean they you would think on paper
they have a high ceiling, and Seattle just made them
look like a JV team. Certainly their offense and I
mean the air yards on completions for Carolina average negative

(46:20):
one point two, total negative seventeen, like okay, like they
they just shut down everything and you know, one third
down conversion for the entire game, so that the performance
by the defense is just breadtaking. Now, does Carolina have
a breathtaking offense? No, But as I said, they they have.

(46:43):
They have shown glimpses where they have a high ceiling
and Seattle said we're having none of that, So that
that would be My first thought is congratulations to the Seahawks.
You beat a team on the road after having played
a very emotional game against the Rams, a team that's,
you know, playing for first place in their division, and

(47:04):
I don't think it's to go in said that in
the National Football League, you win by seventeen points.

Speaker 7 (47:11):
On the road.

Speaker 5 (47:11):
In those circumstances, you just have to tip your hat.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 8 (47:16):
And yet to me, the there's a jeckol in Hyde
aspect of the Panther. I haven't watched every single game,
but I've watched enough of them and seen enough highlights
of you know, them getting beat forty to nine by
the Buffalo Bills. Now that's a good team at times,
and they can do that to somebody. But they also
lost both games to the Norland Saints and didn't do

(47:36):
a whole heck of a lot offensively against them either.
So it feels to me like you don't know for
sure what you're gonna get, and yet your only job
is to go out and make them look like the
lower end of their ceiling, whatever that is, or the
floor you want to make them look like that they
most certainly did. Is there anything in particular that you
saw that Mike McDonald did that was ultimately really confusing
to Bryce Young and the rest of that offense.

Speaker 5 (47:59):
Well, I think that they they took away the deep ball,
and you know, they played mostly zone. When they played man,
they gloved it up pretty good. I think they communicated
very well. I mean the Seahawks the difference between them
at home and on the road defensively, I mean they

(48:20):
they allow, you know, under sixteen points on the road,
they're over twenty points at home. They're the EPA. You know,
Nate at home is negative six point nine to six,
but on the road is thirty nine. That probably doesn't
mean a lot, but expected point it's added. I mean,

(48:41):
there's a lot of statistics where you just go, these
guys are a lot better on the road than at home.
And I think part of it is a communication. Obviously,
you can communicate better on the road, and so I
think they just they had everything covered and then when
they just a lot of of the checkdowns were to

(49:02):
the swings. I mean, yet out in the flat and
relative open space. Tyo Cotta on a swing, great tackle.
Uh Witherspoon in the flat with a lot of space,
great tackle on a third down. Ernest Jones man a
man coverage out out on a swing, great tackle. Even

(49:22):
Nuosa on a third down, buzzing out on a on
a on a zone blitz. He's got the flat. He
makes a great tackle. So they were. They tackled well
in the flat after having induced the the the checkdowns
for for Bryce Young, and I think in Bryce Young
they just made him look I mean just a tiny

(49:42):
but but slow. I mean, if you're gonna be that small,
you better be Kyler Murray twitchy. He didn't look fast,
he didn't look big. His arm looked weak, he looked tentative.
I mean, if if we were doing Carolina Radio, I'd say,
please don't make the mistakes the Dolph Dolphins did with Tua,
like like, no, this guy is not worth the second contract,

(50:05):
you know. And so at an event, I think that
they just a great communication. They're healthy on defense. I mean,
if you'd have told me going into week seventeen that
and I don't want to diminish or diss Kobe Bryant.
He has been a really good player for them. But
if you said that's the only guy that's that you're
concerned about from a health standpoint, sign me up.

Speaker 7 (50:25):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (50:27):
And so you know, they got a lot of dudes
now that even the younger you know, Okata and Drake Thomas,
who you know, weren't starters at to begin with, but
now they just they're really keen on their reads and
they're playing with no hesitation. It's a fun group to watch, obviously,
no doubt.

Speaker 7 (50:43):
Hugh Mellon is with us our QB one Monday morning
quarterback session as there's so much talk about with the
Seattle Seahawks, and so there's still more to talk about
with the defense. But let's get to the other side
of the ball. Because it was an ugly first half
for sure, or just three points at halftime, just a
high undred and twenty five passing yards for the entire game.
I think that I say this without hesitation. This radio

(51:07):
show here in Seattle, this morning show, Ashley Bucky, myself
probably are the more pro Sam Donald, let it rip
a group that you're gonna find on a daily basis
here in Seattle. And yet there's certainly that narrative about
too many turnovers, and I'm wondering if you who've been

(51:27):
the leader of the I'm not worried about this brigade.
Is there any reason to start worrying about it as
you're getting ready for these crucial games starting on Saturday.

Speaker 5 (51:39):
I'm not as worried about the turnovers as I am,
just the general lack of cohesion. I mean, in the
first nine games of the year, Sam Donald's passer rating
on the aggregate was one hundred and fourteen. In eight
of those nine games, is passer rating was over eighty five.

(52:00):
The way you know, you run the correlation numbers to
winning and passer eight. Even though passer rating is a relic,
it's been around since nineteen seventy. It stands the test
of time and there is high correlation, so passer rating
is absolutely a worthwhile statistic. In the last seven games,
remember reminder, eight of nine have been over eighty five.

(52:22):
In the last seven games starting with the RAM game.
In so far, only two of seven have been over
eighty five, and the average has been eighty four. So
you go from one hundred and fourteen to eighty four,
you've lost thirty points on your average passing game. The
difference between the first nine games and the last seven.

(52:43):
So clearly you can't just, you know, just kind of
blow those statistics under the carpet. I mean that's real stuff,
and I think that they're not getting the big plays certainly.
You know, after watching the tape, that is not a

(53:03):
resume for Clint Kubiak if he was trying to get
a higher job. He just that. You know, there's details
about their their offense that are just the difference between
winning and losing. And they got double slant. Mike Homgren
would call it lion. You know, you got the the
the receivers are too close to each other, so they're

(53:23):
stacked on top of each other. When they won the
slant on a on a on a wide receiver screen,
that left tackle and my entire life, I mean that
coaches at high school, I have never seen Josh Josh Jones,
I've never seen the left tackle on a tunnel screen
not go get the widest guy the corner and then
let the guard get the the next inside guy. But

(53:47):
there was Josh Jones getting the the the overhang defender
and waiting for Gray's able to try and get to
the widest guy. I mean that's that's that's that's a
new one on me that I I think, uh uh,
the failure to see there they were the Carolina was
playing on a lot of coverage what's called quarter quarter half.
Some people call it cover six. So say, okay, I

(54:08):
might've lost some people. What that means is you're rolling
to one half of the field and you're putting a
corner down in the flat on one side and the
safety over the top, so you're double covering on that side,
but on the opposite side, you're allowing free access. And
and you got to you gotta go take the out
routes on that and and there was they kept trying

(54:32):
to work the middle of the field in Carolina. The
one thing they did well defensively, they they kind of
bottle up the middle of the field. I don't think
Seattle exploited the outside the They were only they were
seven and nine going outside the numbers, but only fifty
six yards passing. And you know, and Darnold had shown

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on the third play of the game, I mean you
had this beautiful uh intermediate speed out to the sideline
and from the right half to the far left. I mean,
Darnal can make that throw. I think they needed to
call that more. There was another time with Rashizi. He
before he got hurt, he had a four step out route.
Good looking play out there. It's a it's a quarters beater.

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And and yet I think that they should have called
that more. Certainly they should have called more deep balls
because I wrote I'm writing. I can't even tell you
all the times that that I write in the note.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Squad.

Speaker 5 (55:25):
Squad is a term that that is kind of a
ubiquitous term for quarterbacks, and it describes a corner who
is who is sitting at a certain depth maybe before
the snap of the ball, maybe at seven yards, maybe
a slight backpedal, but he's not really honoring the deep ball.
He's keeping his hips and his shoulders parallel to the

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line scrimmage, ready to drive from the top down, eager
to drive from the top down. And you got to
run go routes. You just have to do it. And
and even if you know, you know, throw it up,
you might get a PI what have you, But you
got to loosen them up. And and number two and
number eight J C. Horn and our buddy Mike Jackson,
a former Seahawk, just were squatting all day. And they

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did it to Cooper Cup, they did it to jaysn
they did it to Derek Young, and so that that
is a part of it. And then you say, well,
where's the double move? Well, they finally, oh my gosh,
so they finally get to the double move, which what's
what's Carolina was just dying, you know, begging you to
do a double move. They do it in the red zone.

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They get the interception, and I'll just leave myself because
I know you're gonna ask me the interception. A lot
going on there, uh, And so they call a slug
o to jsn on on the outside based on how
the the corners for Carolina had been playing when they
were in off coverage. That's again where they're you know,

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seven yards hips parallel to the line of scrimmage. How
based on how they were playing, that would be a
good call there. But on this particular time, they're playing
at what's called a press bail, and press bail means
that I'm Sam Darnold, I'm in the shotgun. Out to
my left, there's Mike Jackson. He is pressed up on

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Jackson Smith and Jigbab my widest receiver, to the left
to the way that that you would say they were
susceptible is if he was off coverage. He's not off coverage,
but right before the snap of the ball, he bails out.
The term is called press bail. It's a zone zone
uh parlance and and lexicon if you will. And when

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you bail knees out, excuse me, knees in and ask out.
You're looking back at the quarterback, but your your body
is retreating away. So when you start to go to slant,
your your momentum as a cornerback, you're already taking yourself
away from the line of scrimmage. And so they they
call the play that they should have called several times,

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but it just happened to come up against the wrong
coverage and so Darna's got to be aware that he's
got a check down. But but what ends up happening
is when Jasn comes out of it, he's faking a
slant SLUGO is in a word conjunction slant and go,
and he's faking. And Mike Jackson so on top of
the route, the JSN by his body language, he starts

(58:17):
to throttle down and he says, throw it to me
back shoulder. I'm not I'm never gonna get on top
of this guy. The idea is that that had the
corner been off Mike Jackson at seven yards, you come up,
you three step, he's he triggers down and then you
go outside of him and you get an easy touchdown.
That's how you you drew it up, and how you
practiced on Friday in red zone practice and and but

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that's not.

Speaker 7 (58:41):
The look they get.

Speaker 5 (58:42):
So now jasn as I said, he is uh, he's
trying to throw it down, expecting throw it on my
back shoulder, and Darnald is thinking throw it up to
the back of the end zone. And that and and
I'll add one more component to the the uh, the
the play that I think was vital. And then I'll
stop and catch my breath. That Donald was in the

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shotgun and he had Canine to his right. He also
had two tight ends to the right. Canine had to
come from the right across his face to block the
n man online Scrimmage, who was lined up like a
linebacker happened to be a safety, but the left tackle, Jones,

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was blocking down inside their turn protecting. That means you're
asking Canine to start from the right go in front
of the quarterback's face.

Speaker 7 (59:36):
And now.

Speaker 5 (59:38):
There's a blow up like a grenade from Donald's perspective,
and this is happening in his lap. His arm gets hit,
He's everything like this. This block by Canine is happening
literally right in his lap. It's a poor scheme to
have that him to have to do that on that play.

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You need to have them on the other side or
turn the protection from not left to right, but right
to left. And then Canine, who's on the right, and
he happens to be on the double tight end side
that end that he would have to block is way
far removed from the quarterback. You just don't want to
have that protection. So there was a lot of things

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going on in that interception that doesn't bother me. It's
the lack of cohesion and the idea that you're only
you know, you're under two hundred yards and your efficiency
is poor. That's kind of where I am.

Speaker 8 (01:00:36):
Okay, well, I mean I'll stay with Darnold just to
finish this second. I mean, just overarching if you had
to give him a grade, because to me, it's you
got to let it rip.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
And yet at.

Speaker 8 (01:00:45):
Times that means that things are going to happen, whether
they're your fault it is a bad decision, or whether
it was a good defensive play called on the other
side of things. To me, the situational awareness. If you're
backed up against your own goal line, you can't turn
the ball over there, right, whether it's you know, getting
rid of it so you're not getting hit and fumbling,
or you're throwing it into you know, a dangerous situation

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where all of a sudden their team has a short
field and they're going to have points on the board,
or when you are down there getting ready to score
and that like that interception was and you essentially are
kind of taking points off the board. If you just
had to say what Sam Darnold's overall situational awareness, his
decision making based on where you're at on the field
and the situation of the game. You're giving him an

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a for over the course of the season. B See
where where's he at?

Speaker 5 (01:01:29):
Oh? Over the course of the season. Yeah, yeah, I'd
give him an Ah. Look, you're you're you're you're setting
a franchise record for points already and you still have
the week to go. You're where are they in terms
of points?

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
There?

Speaker 5 (01:01:43):
Are they top two in the NFL and points. You know,
for most of the season they hit. He had been
number one in net yards per attempt. I think he's
number two now, So I would say for the season,
I mean, this.

Speaker 7 (01:01:58):
Is the guy.

Speaker 5 (01:01:58):
It looks you're right now, you're the number one seed
in the NFC, and you know he's over his last
forty starts. He's thirty one and nine. So yeah, if
you want to say for the season, he's had an
as he's a Pro Bowl. You know, he's the number
two guy in the conference at the Pro Bowl, voted

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number two behind Matthew Stafford. So so I can't give
him less than an A for all of that. Now
if you want to say yesterday, no, it wasn't an A. No,
I don't like, you know, boot left hell, they do
more boot lefts than TUA does boot lefts down in Miami.
Why do you start the game with with with the

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boot left and from a formation in the front where
the you know it's an odd front and the n
man online of scrimmage, who you're trying to get to
suck down inside for a second, and what's called reduce
you're trying to get him to reduce he's so stinking
wide on his alignment before you snap the ball that
you're never gonna get that play without him in your face.

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And so so I just think there was just a
bunch of stuff that I you want to talk about
bad grades, I'd give Clint Kubiak a bad grade.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
He just you know, his.

Speaker 5 (01:03:13):
Play calling for what what Carolina was doing. You know,
you know I've already kind of touched on some of it.
But I would say for Darnold yesterday, by NFL standard,
you know, that's that's B minus, you know, somewhere in there.
But but I think that there's a lot of quarterbacks

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who you put him in in underneath the center and
let him be the Seahawk quarterback yesterday that they wouldn't
have looked any better. A lot of quarterbacks that you
think are damn good wouldn't have had a good game either,
based on what he confronted. Was there a couple of
misreads where I thought, okay, yeah, there was a couple

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of a couple of reads where if he was just
bang on with his timing, there was some opportunities from
some any intermediate stuff. But I think he also was
operating from a very dirty pocket on a consistent basis,
and so yeah, that concerns me going, you know, moving forward.

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Speaker 5 (01:04:32):
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Speaker 7 (01:04:41):
Ain't Sanattle's cutting Sehawks are running with it. Lawrence, Texas
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fumble recovery set them up on the doorstep Demark Lawrence.
Another big game the po bowler DeMarcus Lawrence. Seahawks went

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over the Carolina Panthers twenty seven to ten, thirteen and
three on the season, with a chance to go fourteen
and three this Saturday when they face the San Francisco
forty nine ers in Santa Clara. Everything's on the line.
The number one seed in the NFC playoffs, the division championship,
home field advantaged throughout the postseason, the free will of man.

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Everything is on the line for this game on the
Saturday night, and we got our experts here, Hugh Millen
and Mike Holmgren to break it down on a Monday
morning quarterback. So, coach, when you think about this game,
this matchup with the forty nine ers, what's the first
thing that hits you? What a great game.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
I'm just saying, I'm really looking forward to seeing it
because you have two teams. It's kind of unbelievable. It's
like when the forty nine er, excuse me, when the
Seahawks played the Rams, that division, whole division. It's so close,
and now so much is writing on it, you know,
the division title, first round, by those types of things,

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and so plus it's your rivals, it's everything is there.
It's just set up perfectly. I think the TV people
are very, very excited about this.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
Mike.

Speaker 5 (01:06:18):
I'd like to get your thoughts on brock Purdy because
I think it's an interesting just development that they have
had down there in the sense that they draft Trey
Lance number three. Overall, they spent two number ones to
climb up to get him, and he was a big
dude that can run, strong arm, what have you. And

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yet Kyle Shanahan didn't need to coach him for very
long before he just gave up on him and trade
him for a mid round pick to the Cowboys in
favor of Rock Party mister irrelevant, who's shorter, slower, much
weaker arm. So there there's got to be something in there.
I mean, I certainly obviously have my ideas, but I

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would love to hear from you. Why would a coach
is accomplished as Kyle Shanahan go with a Rock Party
to be his franchise quarterback, give him a two hundred
and fifty million dollar contract and all that when you
see some of the limitations with him physically.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Well, I think you know what goes to show you
is that you have quarterbacks are rated on the things
you mentioned. You look at that first strength, maneuverability, accuracy,
all that kind of stuff, But then the tough part
to evaluate and you see it. You see it every

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year with different teams and guys who are drafted high that.
But there's something missing.

Speaker 6 (01:07:49):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
It's not he doesn't compute properly. He's got the tools,
but he doesn't compute properly, whereas Rock Party, I think
computes perfectly. I think he really does that. And for
a coach like Shanahan who has coached quarterbacks and offense
his life, his entire life, and me I liked it too,

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that there's an attraction there. And then when you put
him in the game what he has done. Okay, you
know they decided to make the decision. Let's say he
goes in and it doesn't work. It for whatever reason,
it doesn't work. Now you go another direction. But it
has worked with him. You've seen it. You saw it yesterday,

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and you see it. You know he's accurate, he makes
good decisions. His teammates love him.

Speaker 7 (01:08:34):
He can run.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
No, it's so they've hit it, and you don't always
get to hit it. Joe Montana, if you remember, he
didn't start until his third year, right, you know that,
Steve de Berg.

Speaker 7 (01:08:47):
They had some guys in there and then Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
You know now, but all of a sudden you got
the guy for a long time, in fact, one of
the best ever. So it's an interesting thing. Quarterbacks are
an interesting thing. You don't always hit the ones you
think you're gonna handle on.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
Yeah, quarterbacks are weird.

Speaker 7 (01:09:05):
Yeah, one around so weird.

Speaker 8 (01:09:08):
Coach, I'm going to ask you something that I did
ask you, and surprisingly, for the first time in my life,
it was something that he hadn't really thought of. Uh
so mission accomplished by me. When you're playing a division
foe like they are going to have here, obviously you
play them twice a year, is it, in your experience,

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was an advantage an advantage for you as the offensive guy,
or did you feel like the second time you played
somebody it's an advantage for the defensive minded guy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
Oh that's a good question, Bucket.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
I think it's.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
I always thought if I the more I knew a team,
it was to my advantage. That's what I felt, and
I'm sure they felt the same way. And you know,
you play the teams all the time, and you know
the coaching staff and you know the personnel. Now it's
important then to insert into the game and you will
see it. We will see it next Saturday. You know

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things so maybe we haven't seen yet, or the other
team hasn't seen yet, not a not a lot of things,
but some things.

Speaker 4 (01:10:12):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
And so you know, I remember when I was at
the forty nine ers. We played the Rams in the
championship game, and that was the fourth game, fourth time
we played them that year. We played them in preseason,
we played two games in the regular season, and then
we played them in the championship game. And I was going,
you know, I was new to the forty nine ers,
and I going, well, this is different now, but we've

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known pretty well, and so I think it's I always
looked at it as that was a good thing for
me if I knew the team and knew kind of
what their tendencies were.

Speaker 7 (01:10:43):
Yeah, I've heard about this my entire life. I've heard
it all season long that Mike McDonald is like saving
stuff and spreading out stuff that he's saving all season long.
How on earth are you able to do that?

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
Ken?

Speaker 7 (01:10:54):
You you play sixteen games in the National Football League,
trying to win every single one of them, because we
know every weeks of war in the NFL. How do
you save stuff for a certain team or a certain
game or a certain situation.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
Coach, you know, Chuck, You know, it reminds me of
when you hear coach speak. A guy gets to the
podium and he says all this stuff and you leave
and you go, what did he say? What's what's what's
he talking about? I don't understand this. It's it's it's
to me, it's writers speak, Okay, you know, talking about Mike,
Mike McDonald and then how how he does stuff, and oh,

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this is gonna be a good story because we're I know,
he's saving stuff. So it comes out that way and
then people catch on. I don't believe in the first second.
He's calling the game and he's doing what he has
to do to win that game, and you know, he
might have some things in his arsenal he hasn't called yet,
but he's certainly not saving things for the opportunity of

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maybe in the NFC Championship game. No, he's he got
to get there. You got to get there, and then
then you do what you have to do.

Speaker 5 (01:11:59):
So, Mike, what as some matchups or some areas that
you anticipate being important. I think it's interesting that the
forty nine ers, you know, for many years they could
generate a pass rush with four guys highlighted by Bosa,
and they had some some good guys on the inside
as well, but they have really dried up in terms

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of their four man Rush. I think they're second to
the worst in terms of producing sacks in the league,
and so they got to do it by scheme. Are
there some other things that you see as far as
some matchup areas that intrigue you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
Well, I think I think one thing is the forty
nine ers are lost their two best defensive players, really
good defensive players in Warner and Mosa, and so it
doesn't surprise me that they're struggling a little bit that way,
you know, But they are an aggressive group. As far
as matchups, I don't think. I wouldn't go into too

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many matchups, but what I would do for this game
is that the forty nine er are going to have
a plan to try and take Enjigma away, and it's
hard to do. It's hard to do even when you're trying.
It's hard to do. But that should open up some
other things. So in the preparation and thinking about how

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I'm going to do this, that's what I focus on,
just a little bit more on the preparation, knowing I'm
going to throw the ball at the Jigma, but I'm
going to get some other guys involved. But as far
as targeting a particular guy on their defense. I don't
think I don't think that's in the cards. I don't
think they have those guys necessarily right now. And so

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I run my offense. I do what I have to do,
but I try to spread it around and again use
the play action pass a lot, particularly after the game
Sharp and had last week.

Speaker 8 (01:13:54):
Coach, is there anything did you ever have a time
when the offense was sputtering a little bit at to
start with in games and you just said, Okay, I'm
gonna I'm gonna completely flip this thing around. Like maybe
you're just like, we're not going to run the ball
at all. We're just going and we're not even gonna
go just try to move the change. We're gonna just
take maybe a first couple of possessions and we're gonna

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take a couple of shots and and try to get
big chunk plays to maybe spark that thing and ignite
the offense earlier in the game.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
Yeah, that's kind of the famous thing I did when
we couldn't we couldn't run a lick, and I said
during a game, I said to all the coaches want
heard it, that's it. We're throwing every play and then
all of a sudden. The line coach kind of gave
me some static in the phone, and I told him
in a nice way, I said, be quiet, we'll never
do that. I'm gonna throw the ball. I don't want
to hear from you. And then you know that because

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because we needed to do something, what we were doing
wasn't working, and I didn't see a way out other
than okay, let's open this thing up and see we
can hit a couple of loosen things up. So I
think that has to be in your You have to
have a plan B. You have to have it ready,
you know. And this game is going to be unbelievable

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on Saturday. It really is.

Speaker 7 (01:15:08):
I remember that time where Mike Homer was like, all right, Hasselbeck,
the rest of the game left handed. We're only going
to throw left handed, just to shake it up, just
to catch them off guard. All right, I want to
squeeze this in real quickly. We do have to go
to break. But have how often in your career did
you line up in victory formation losing by seventeen Never?

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
Never?

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
And it surprised me, and then it caught me off guard.
Maybe it's because I was in that chair that I
was massaging and I was kind.

Speaker 7 (01:15:40):
Of sleepy at that point.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
What are they doing?

Speaker 5 (01:15:44):
What are they doing?

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
But then I saw the coach on the sideline and
I think the announcer told me what they were doing,
so that was okay.

Speaker 7 (01:15:51):
But no, I had never done that. I hadn't seen it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
You seen it.

Speaker 7 (01:15:56):
No, I have not seen it in the second half,
especially with time, yeah, time left on the clock for
the other team to get the ball back. It was
it was interesting. No, yeah, all right, looking ahead. Yeah,
that's true. Yes, they were yeah, all right. One last
thing next Sports Radio ninety three point three kh A RFM,

(01:16:22):
probably one last thing for coach Holmgren here this morning.
We got Hugh Millen here of course, Monday Morning Quarterback,
our final segment. I usually go last in this segment,
but I want to go first because we have not
touched upon a something that happened in the game that
I think is pretty significant. And I don't know if
he wants to weigh in on this as well, but

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at the end of the first half, you want to
talk about chaos football. I just got to get your
reaction to this, coach and yours, Hue as well. First
of all, horrible officiating. I thought throughout the game, certainly
on this drive, this particular drive, they missed a horse
collar and a face mask on this play. I don't
know how you missed that. And then you had Sam

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have that pass that got deflected off of Brown's bicep,
then dropped by Cup and then almost gets intercepted by
the guy that deflected it, So that added to the chaos.
Then Walker catches the ball and then drops it like
he didn't drop the pass. He caught it and then
drops it and said, then we didn't know if he

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had the first down or not. And then time's ticking
down and Mike for some reason doesn't want to use
his timeouts ever anymore in the first half, so he's
got three timeouts, he doesn't use any of them. Then
it's fourth down and one, and they just they don't
even have time to get Barner out there, who's your
normal sneak guy. So Sam just sneaks it and then
he's short, and then they can't challenge apparently either one

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of them in the situations. And now so seventeen seconds
left on the clock, you had a short fire field goal.
You thought at least attempt there that you could make
with Myers, you end up coming away with nothing, and
then to add to the chaos, Carolina gets the ball
and decides we don't have a quarterback with a strong arm.
We're not gonna throw a hail Mary. I mean, so

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you two make sense of this. What should have been
done in that situation? Coach to handle all of that
muck and nonsense.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
Well, you know what, I'm glad have you settled down
today since you saw that?

Speaker 7 (01:18:23):
Since?

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
No, apparently not.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
That's the most fired up I've heard you for in
a long time. But no, you you have a good point.
It was crazy and that was to my point in
the when at app time I'm thinking, what in the
world did we just see? And you know, I hate
to duch Hughes button on the officiating, but it was
really it was really you go, come on, you got

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to see that that on the on those calls, that's
the first thing. Then that one play that the big guy,
it came off his helmet and then it took back
to him, and oh, you're right. I had seen that
in a long time. But to me, that was the
perfect ending to a first half.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
Like we saw.

Speaker 5 (01:19:06):
It was the perfect ending. The cherry on the top. Well,
I mean as far as coach McDonald and the timeouts,
that's there's a simple reason. I mean, he's just saving
it so he can have six in the second half.
I mean, but you know, I think the goad Herders
had a really really bad day.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:19:27):
And you know, on a third down in their own territory, Caroline,
on their one touchdown drive, they throw a bubble screen
and you you know, holding is more holding the closer
yard to the ball. Uh And right at the point
of attack you got Witherspoon. He gets yanked by his shoulder.

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He yanks is It's like a corkscrews him. He gets
yanks so bad, and he was he was the guy
who was going to make the tackle. And how they
don't miss how they missed that. I mean, if they
call that now, you're gonna have it third and acception long.
You're probably gonna get a pun out of that. I mean,
that was a seven point missed.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
I could go on and on with that.

Speaker 5 (01:20:07):
You're right, the whole sequence was a mess. But hey, speed,
so they have fast eyes when they sow on on Sunday.
Guess what, that's what we're gonna get every single week.
My trick, Chuck said, he wasn't. Chuck, calm down, You
calm down.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
It's your turn.

Speaker 8 (01:20:26):
Ye, go ahead, what's your one last thing? You're talking
about squeezing things. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go
off on the officials. I'm just an ass playing and
simple coach. I mean, and this is I think every
team could probably say, well, if this happens, you're probably
not gonna go as far as you want in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
But it's a trend. There's a the idea of turning
the ball over.

Speaker 8 (01:20:48):
We just watched, Uh, you know the Bears play last night,
and the fact that they're sitting where they're sitting in
the standings is in large part from taking the ball away.
If this Seahawks team, who's a legitimate Super Bowl contender,
they're they're up there, I think second in the NFL
as far as scoring goes, and we know how good
and dominant their defense can be. Is turnovers going to

(01:21:12):
be the reason why the team does not get to
the super.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
Bowl or win it all? I think so. I I
think so, Buck.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
I think turnovers are for years, turnovers usually determine what happens. Uh,
we've gone through a couple of crazy games this season
where it was kind of the opposite, you know, but
I think, I think when you had two really good
teams playing against each other, although although we saw one

(01:21:40):
that didn't work quite that way a couple of weeks ago,
turnovers will decide it. And that's that's that's my worry.
I suppose you know, and so well, you know, it
might be you might see it. You really might see
it play into the game on Saturday, because you got
two really good teams too close closely know each other,

(01:22:03):
they're they've been playing the same way, and we'll see
it on Saturday. But I think that will be the
determining factor.

Speaker 4 (01:22:09):
I do.

Speaker 7 (01:22:09):
All right, here you get the last one, last thing. Question,
what do you got for us?

Speaker 5 (01:22:14):
Well, you know, Seattle was nine to sixteen on third
down fifty six percent. That's that's great, right, Like, if
that's all you knew, you would assume you had a
big day. But Mike, first downs. There was twenty seven
first downs, only six of which did Seattle have more
than four yards, only ten of which of the twenty
seven to they have more than three. On second downs,

(01:22:35):
twenty two second downs twelve of twenty two were eight
or more yards to go, and that led to this
stat with neutral downs Chuck and Buck being described as
either first and ten or less or second and six
or less. Those are neutral downs. Sam Darnold passer rating
Mike one hundred and eight on neutral downs, on non

(01:22:57):
neutral downs fifty six. It was cut in half essentially.
And so just talk to us about so much is
said about about third down, but that kind of I
don't know, call it futility, but in insufficiency on first

(01:23:17):
and second down is a problem. How did you what
was your mindset about when you're having those type of
bad first downs and putting your team behind the behind
the chains.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
Yeah, I get I mentioned earlier. You go to plan B.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
You know, if you won't go in and all of
a sudden it's not happening. You have a plan your
first fifteen or your first fifteen or the second half
or whatever it is, and it's not going the way
you want it to go, then you either make adjustments
on the field with your alignement or or the running
backs you know, hit the hole, whatever you're saying, to
make those adjustments to make it manageable. You know, now

(01:23:56):
to your point, Initially, the nine out of sixty on
third down. That's pretty good. But that was hard doing
it the hard way kind of like you know, so
you know, you make adjustments and be willing to change,
be willing to make those adjustments, and then at halftime,
you know they've come out the second half of a
lot of games and done pretty well. But I think,

(01:24:19):
can I end it?

Speaker 7 (01:24:20):
Check on one last year? Go ahead?

Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
I don't know if I don't know if you guys
were watching it as close as I was in the
in the massage chair. But the guy that came on
that looked like Sam Darnold. Did you see him?

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
I did? Yeah, Donald Now, yeah, you know Stan marmald.
We'll call himself. You know he is now very famous
and can write his own ticket. Did you see how
much he enjoyed that? Oh he's the guy.

Speaker 7 (01:24:50):
Gingers are weird. That's quarterbacks and gingers typically.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
Or I was watching I was watching the game, getting
kind of down in the dumps, and then this movie's
comes on, birk me, I love it.

Speaker 7 (01:25:04):
Hey, Happy New Year to both of you. We'll talk
to you later on this week, and then of course
on Monday we get to recap this big game. So
thank you very much, gentlemen. Awesome as always, talk to
you soon, all right, thanks so much.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
Happy to your guys.

Speaker 7 (01:25:20):
Now, all right, you mell it. Mike homgrin with us
and we will be back tomorrow at six A. M Ashley,
Bucky and myself coming up next. It's is it Mark
James and Chris Kidd? Or are we doing a Bowl game?
I think it's Mark James and Christ Okay, Mark James
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then you might get both. Sports Radio ninety three point

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