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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
Good morning, folks.
Speaker 3 (00:03):
Good morning everyone, Good morning, good time, good morning class
ladies and gentlemen. Ladies and gentleman.
Speaker 4 (00:11):
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school basketball stand What in the hell does that mean?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Don't jumped any conclusions.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
No, not a god, You've got to lower lower your expectations.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Hard to believe he could once send a fastball to
Pluto in back.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
I'm getting some Bucky jacobs and vibes and former I'll
just openly admit I'm a fat, out of shape X athlete.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Now there's been a noticeable spike in your blood pressure.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
A five seven guard and a former college water polo
national champion.
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Has a lot of useless crap up here.
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Speaker 3 (01:15):
Hey, good morning and welcome in. It is the Tuesday
edition of Chucking Back in the Morning. Sports Radio ninety
three point three KJR FM. It's great to have you
with us. Ashley ryants here. Former Mariner Bucky Jacobson is here.
My name is Chuck Pollin. We welcome you into this
Tuesday edition. We take it to all the way till
ten o'clock this morning, and we have our normal juicy
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ten o'clock lineup of guests coming your way here today,
which we will map out for you in What's on
Tap coming up on the radio program. I made four
hundred in ninety six New Year's resolutions.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
This year is the two.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Of you know already crushing them. I mean, so far,
so good. New Year's Resolution number one hundred and two
is a challenge this morning, and that is to not
be angry behind the wheel.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
You know, I do get a little angry.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Okay, Oh, I'm gonna say I stopped short of road
rage on the drive. And that also involves not starting
the show talking about drivers. But it is the thing
that we experienced last before the mics get cracked. Yeah.
But so this isn't really a complaint, just an observation.
I think that there are a lot of people that
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work in this general vicinity right here where we work
that made a New Year's resolution of getting to work
on time or earlier than they did a year ago.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Because there was a lot of traffic today and there
never should be.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
Oh, oh yeah, I feel like there's quite a bit
of traffic on most days. Well, no, today, Yeah, I
guess maybe it was a little bit busier.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
It was like backed up, like I couldn't even get
through one of the lights. It turned without me being
able to get through the previous stop white see.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
And I made it all the way through except one light,
and that there was an oversized vehicle though I should
not be allowed to the Yeah, I realized.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
That all of my complaints usually do fall on deaf
ears with the two of you. Oh no, no, I
think that. Nonetheless, that was the situation this morning. So
I think a lot of you made New Year's resolutions
that I'm going to get to work on time this year.
I think that's what happened. Or I'm gonna get to
work early early bird gets the worm. That's what the
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boss tells me. And I'm sure it'll clear up by tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
I was gonna say, it's like a gym, so you'll
be fine, Yeah, gym member.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah, they won't use it, they won't do it after January.
You're gonna be just fine.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Tomorrow they'll be like.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
That wasn't Yeah, that wouldn't a big advantage to that.
I'm going to sleep in a few if there is.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Something to that.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
You're right, we're getting close to the time where most
of them will fall off and then, yeah, you got
about two maybe three more weeks until they'll all be back.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
But yeah, we're all a little bit different. Look, I
got four hundred and ninety six resolutions to live up to,
so I'm sure i'm acting differently too. I mean, you're
trying to be my best behavior. Yeah, I noticed that.
Yeah you are.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
You're you're firing on all cylinders because you're thinking about
all the things you're accomplishing.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Hey, it's January sixth and I didn't start it until Sunday,
But my new diet, I'm still on it.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Wow, congratulations on that. I hope that sticks as well.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I mean, I hope it at least six through next Sunday.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
The thing about having five hundred resolutions is you're bound
to have some of them come true. Now the downside,
if we want to go glass half empty, you're probably
not going to fulfill them all.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, you're right, So.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I think you go five hundred.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
That's why I went near five hundred.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, just so that I could make sure that I
felt some level of a chief.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
I just think, if you know, almost a year from now,
we're sitting like I have accomplished one hundred things that
I set out to do in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Nobody has to know that it didn't account hundred. You
failed exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
It would be so impressed.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I won't bring I would be.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
As my former colleague Mike Response, and yes that was
his name as a radio host, Mike Respond, the sports pig.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
That's what he went by. I didn't call him that,
that's what he went by. He would tell me shock
the ket alive, his low expectations, Why you're always achieving?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I mean, that's pretty smart.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Sports pig, the philosopher.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
He was quite the philosopher. Yeah, he was a philosopher.
All right.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
All right, well, welcome into the radio program. We are
underway here on this Tuesday morning, and uh manh Yeah,
Seattle just seems to be in a better mood right
now because of the situation the football team has put
itself in. Uh and that always just makes the community
feel a little bubblier. Uh to sit there and know
that the football team accomplished what it needed to accomplish
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during the regular season to get the number one seed
to get the by and at this stage they're just
reveling in it. I mean, think about the difference that
was created with that win. On Saturday, San Francisco and
Troy Aikman talked about this during the game. He talked
about it in the post game. It was the first
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thing that was on his mind, and his thought was
the difference between what San Francisco's feeling right now is
night and day. And he went as far as saying,
I don't see them recovering from this. In other words,
they had a chance, with all of their injuries to
not just get a buy and avoid getting knocked off
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in the first round, not just getting home field advantage,
but throughout the entire postseason. Because they are hosting the
Super Bowl this year too, they also get an extra
week to rest all of those injured players that they
have and to get They're not going to have that
benefit going forward. Meanwhile, I'm on the phone with somebody
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from the Seahawks last night and he's like, yeah, we
got three days off over the weekend. Yeah, Mike's given
everybody three days off so that they can just watch
the full ball if they want to spend time with
their family.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I mean, think about the difference.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
San Francisco's got to go to Philadelphia take on the
World champs after just getting a hell beat out of
them by the Seattle Seahawks, They're now going to have
to face maybe the only other team in the National
Football I mean, there are other teams that are you know,
that are excellent defensively, I'm not sure there's another one
as physical as what the Philadelphia Eagles are defensively. So
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they just got rouffed up by the Seahawks and now
they're gonna face Philadelphia. The weather could be terrible. I
don't know, I didn't even look it up, but that's
team is playing very good defense, very aggressive defense at
this point. I mean they're gonna be slopping it out,
possibly on no rest, actually yeah, on no rest. And
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then and then have to take on the defending World champions,
who decided to rest all of their players in a
loss last week. So the night day difference, while you know,
Sam Darnold's going.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
To be home eating fis funions, yeah, yeah, and yeah,
and having is you.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Know, slippers, his ug slippers.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Uh, you know, hoist it up on the the automan.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
The automan, that's what I was looking for. I almost
said shiffer robe, but that would really take long legs.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
On the automan.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Just chilling out and wait on who wants to play us.
Let's see who wants to play us? Maybe everybody will quit. Yeah, yeah,
you're right. I mean it's and it really is.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
I mean it starts well, it finished on Saturday, when
you kind of knew where you're at. But it going back,
I mean to just before Christmas was, which was not
that long ago, that Rams game, when we were thinking
about how big that game was leading into it, because
you lose that one, if all things stay the same
the rest of the season, you still don't get the
number one seed. So it was a way in which
the playoffs started like a month ago, and yet nobody
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Usually in the playoffs, you can't win a playoff game
and then receive a week off because of it.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
And yet that's the.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Way that this whole thing panned out, I mean the
San Francisco game to be able to do that and
versus now you getting to sit there with the young
slippers and feed up on the autumn, and like you said,
versus having to go play the defending champs.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Now, I think that.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Everybody that gets into these things, with the exception of
I would have to think Carolina maybe is a not
feeling super confident even though they're gonna go out and
give it there all the games to start zero zero
and they're gonna try their best to knock off the Rams.
But for the most part, everybody's end, it's like, all right,
it is what it is. We got where we got
and that's where that's what we earned. Essentially, that's what
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But there's really is not a whole heck of a
lot more of an advantage than getting that week off. One,
the rest and the recovery at this point in the
season for somebody two not having to play a game.
I mean, the rest is great, but just the simple
fact of you can't get knocked out in this round
because you're you're you're gonna be sitting at home watching
it on TV, and is I mean that is an advance.
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I mean that then getting to play at home obviously
for as long as you can you can last in
the playoffs, that's big too. But to me, the idea
of just getting to rest and not have any worry
about it.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
And yet you didn't really know even though they were
playing great. They you know, they didn't really have any
bad losses this year.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
There wasn't that, Oh you dropped on to the Giants
and that's why you didn't make the playoffs. So that's
why you didn't get the number one seed or something like.
They did exactly what they needed to do, and then
they find themselves now basically sitting in the in pole
position with a chance, you know, a couple home victories
and you're all of a sudden sitting in the super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Yeah, that swing from the one to five seed is
just I mean especially for them because to be at
home they had they won everything, they'd be they wouldn't
ever leave because the Super Bowls there too. So for
to go from that to you know, playing on wild
card weekend.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Actually to six O six Seawks only risks five.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
But the Seahawks are the forty nine I mean six.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yeah, I mean Los Angeles facing Carolina, as Bucky pointed out,
doesn't seem so daunting.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Having to go to Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I just checked the weather, forty four degrees possible snow.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Gosh, so I mean, coming off.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
A game that you've just got battered, yeah, by the Seahawks,
and now you've got to face a team that might
be even more physical.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Wow, No, I have fun. Yeah, I'll enjoy watching it.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I have a good fight. Forty nine ers enjoy.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Bring a parka Yeah. Yeah, we'll be sitting around waiting
to see how all the cookie crumbles.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Yeah. So yeah, huge, huge discrepancy and a huge accomplishment.
And you know, there are a lot of people that
and I don't really understand this about sports, that just
sort of were reacting to how it looked like the
Seahawks just wanted it more. I mean, I don't I
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can't believe that that is the case. No Saturday Night,
I think it was just more. I think it just
felt like the Seahawks were kind of in their huddle.
You know, they always talk about Cliff Averill always talk
to us about that Super Bowl where we knew we
were watching the film and we were seeing what they did,
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and we knew we knew it was gonna be a blowout.
I it felt to me like they knew, Like that's
how confident they seemed to be playing on Sunday. I
don't think it was an effort thing. I don't think
it was a warrior mentality thing. I think it was
a confidence thing. I think the Seahawks went in there
knowing that the forty nine Ers weren't going to move
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the ball on them as long as they executed, and
I think the forty nine ers figured it out really fast.
I think back to that Kyle Shanahan halftime interview when
he came out of the locker room and he sounded like,
we don't have an answer for this, whatever is happening
out on the football field. We don't have an answer
right now. We tried, we're gonna try, We're gonna try
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to piece some things together. But that's kind of the
feeling that I got. I think that they stole their
confidence from them early on.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I think that they.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Were just the more prepared, rabid fighter in the contest
on Saturday Night.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Well, it feels to me, I mean in a lot
of sports and football in general, where you kind of
feel like momentum can carry you two things, whether it's
carry you just down the field for some points at
one given time, or carry you all the way to
a victory, like some sort of momentum, and yet the
way in which the Seahawks defense like kind of rallied
to the ball, the fact that they're just even when
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they would complete a pass or a running back would
get pass the line of scrimmage, they didn't get very far.
I mean, after I complete a pass, it was just
two steps you were down.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
It didn't matter. There was never a time where they
got to start rolling at all.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
And I think that, to me is probably like a
breaking of the will type of a thing that can
happen in football game. And you're right, I think that
both these teams went out there like we know each other,
we know what you're going to do or what you're
going to try to do. It's kind of all right,
let's let them know, and you're the better side of
the ball. Whatever your your team is kind of based around,
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which it's the Seahawks defense for sure. Not that the
offense has been bad by any stretch of the course
of this season.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
They have the biggest.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Differential point differential of anybody, and so that says the
offense is doing their part majority of the time. But
I think that there's sometimes you'll see a team that
just runs the ball and they did that. The offense
kind of demoralized the Niners defense, and it's a decimated defense.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
There's something that goes into that, but it didn't matter.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
They just flat out said we're going to run it
on you, and we can pass it efficiently whenever we
want to pass the ball, and we're going to move
the ball down the field.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Now, you didn't get a ton of points out of it.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
There was different things that they did, but thirteen was
plenty when it all came out it I just felt
like it was a just kind of took their will
from them, and it was with a bunch of little
things rally into the ball. Yet you're going to complete
some passes, you're gonna get a first down here and there,
but you're not going to get any big plays. I
mean the fact that Christian McCaffrey's biggest run was five
yards and I was Hugh that was talking about the
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yards after catch was like one yard or something.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
It was like nothing, it's right.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
After the fact, and so to me, it was there's
definitely a supreme confidence that the defense is playing with
and then they executed it as well. It's one thing
to be like, all right, that's my guy and I
need to be on that guy. But you see it
every single week, in every single game, that somebody will
wiggle and get past that first tackle and there's your
big play, and all of a sudden, it takes one
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of those in your field goal range.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Nowadays, they didn't do any of it.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
There was none where you got a guy got out
of one of the tackles. It was one of the
one of the more confident looking defenses and one of
the more executed defenses as far as just the tackling.
All right, you caught it, fine, I'm taking you down here.
Every single blade of grass was earned by them, and
they didn't get very far with it.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yeah, And I'm hearing a lot of the like who
do you want to face? Who do you not want
to face? And I hear the forty nine ers and
Rams kind of coming up still lump together.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
I don't think the forty.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Nine ers want to face the Seahawks again until twenty
twenty seven, you know, after that. The Rams, Yeah, I
could the Rams won another shot. I think the Rams
would want another shot. And I don't think that the
I don't think that this. I just don't think it's
a matchup and then have to play it at Seattle,
and Seattle's had two weeks of rest and might be
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the healthiest team in the National Football League right now.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
I yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
If we've matched up against San Francisco, which I don't
think we're.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Going to do, I welcome.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
I welcome that matchup as much as you can welcome
the matchup in the playoffs. For goodness everything, I put
Carolina first. But yeah, if San Francisco's the impediment, I'm
not worried going into that game. If we have to
play it again, yeah, I would agree with you there.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
I just think from the beginning of the season until
the end of the season, that is as stark of
a contrast as you could see between the Seahawks team, right,
And so you get the defense now just stifling, right,
allowing seventeen point two points per game, and we would
have scored more than thirteen points that we not missed
two field goals, which is unusual for us.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
So I think, all, yes, I'm in.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yeah, It's not that we're without concerns.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
There are, and we're going to cover those throughout the
course of the next two weeks. We're going to cover
some of them. Today as we discuss the Seahawks' fortunes,
but certainly the difference between having to prepare for snow
against the world champs in Philadelphia with fans who might
throw horsepoo at you, versus sitting on a couch, maybe
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inviting over a buddy or two to drink some light
beer and enjoy some football with snacks prepared by I'm
sure a professional caterer. Probably, yeah, that's you know, probably
get back.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Rubs at halftime, professional backrubs.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
A little bit different imagining what that life would be,
what you've carved out for yourself here over the next
couple of weeks, compared to what San Francisco's life has
turned into here since Saturday night. All right, let's find
out what's on tap for the rest of the show,
what's on TEP, what's on tech? All right?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Wild Card Playoffs.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
We'll start on Saturday and it will be uh one
thirty Carolina taking on the Los Angeles Rams, and then
the night game will be the Bears taking on the
Packers Triple Adder on Sunday, and there's even a Monday
night Wildcard playoff game as well. Jean Sterritor is gonna
join us we'll find out what his assignment is coming
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up at eight o'clock CBS rules analysts. He's joined us
at eight o'clock nearly every Tuesday this season, throughout the
football season.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
That is.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Of course, we had a baseball team that went pretty far.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
So there's a couple of weeks we didn't talk to Gene,
so we'll talk to him today at eight o'clock Black Monday.
Yesterday of the carnage occurred while we were either on
the airwaves or before. I'm not sure that anything really
happened afterwards. We just found out breaking news the Cowboys
have fired defensive coordinator at Matt Eberflus. So he's had
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a couple of rough years as an employee, but the
head coaches sort of stopped. Sounds to me, based on
what I heard from Adam Schefter this morning, the Miami
Dolphins situation is still sort of being discussed behind the
scenes right now. They're planning on going forward with Mike
McDaniel there. And then the other thing that Adam Schefter
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brought up, which I found very interesting, was that the
cycle is not over and that big names like John Harbaugh,
Mike Tomlin, Sean McDermott from Buffalo, and I think there
was another name mentioned in there. They are there's possibility
that any one of them could be out, either by
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their own choice or just a mutual agreement that it's
time to move on. So Black Monday finished, and we
did see Pete Carroll get let go by the Las
Vegas Raiders, and we also saw Jonathan Gannon get let
go by the Arizona Cardinals. But there's still more to
this offseason, these coaching changes, and we'll keep monitoring it.
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College football playoffs resume on Thursday. I may have said
Wednesday yesterday on the airwaves. If I did, I apologize.
I don't know what I was thinking. I knew it
was Thursday and Friday because I have a plan to
watch these games on Thursday and Friday. So Thursday is
when they will resume. In the meantime, Old Miss is
trying to play this game with LSU.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
On how often are.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Our coaches available to us? And so apparently those two
assistants have been given the green light by Lane Kiffin
to go fly back to Old Miss last night to coach. Meanwhile,
there's all this nervousness about poaching players and the transfer portal.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
What's going on? It's just a mess.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Meanwhile, the ole Miss players just get remain razor focused.
Two of them re upped for ole Miss football next year,
two of their best players. So very interesting on that front.
The college football transfer portal remains open until the sixteenth.
This doesn't even sound right. Forty eight hundred players. I
heard this let yesterday from Hannah Storm and she usually
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doesn't miss. She's pretty solid professional. That's crazy to forty
eight hundred players. Are there even forty eight hundred college
football players? Yeah, I guess we got them all.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Together, so somebody.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yeah, it was like over half three, just since everybody's
in the transfer portal until they're not forty eight hundred.
My goodness, you don't have to convince these young kids
today that the grass is greener on the other side.
Cracking five to one winners over the Flames, they keep
on rolling. College basketball, you dou will face one of
the best teams in the country tomorrow, the Purdue boiler
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Makers and the NBA Trey Young and the Atlanta Hawks
have had enough of one another and they are trying
to work out a deal. Sounds like they're both in
on it, so we could see something happen today. Coming
up next, in the aftermath of Black Friday or Black Monday,
I should say, the Arizona Cardinals have a job opening,
and that might be the most difficult position in the
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world to fill. I'll explain next. Sports Radio ninety three
point three kJ RFM park on here on this Tuesday morning,
and of course a lot to discuss. We got Greg
Bell at seven oh five, Geene Stertur at eight o'clock today,
Everett Fits you will stop by talk about that crack
and win at eight thirty. Is it a crack and
ticket Tuesday as well? On top of everything else, be
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listening for your opportunity to win tickets to see the
red Hot Seattle crack and led by the kids? How
did this happen? Winterton? And uh and uh.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Myers, yeah right too, and yeah you got where are
these sorts of people?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Where these guys come from? How are they? Yeah? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
But Myers with a beautiful pass last night, just a
gorgeous pass. We'll talk to everyt fitz you about it
coming up at eight thirty, and Rick new Isel nine
o'clock's talk from college football. The rest of it pretty
much Seahawks. That's pretty much all we're going to discuss.
We are coming off of Black Monday, and yeah, there
are I mean, teams are quick to pull the trigger
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on head coaching general manager changes, more so now than ever.
Coach Holmgren is bothered by it, as he told us yesterday,
doesn't think that these guys are getting good enough chance
to get a foothold with all of the many responsibilities
and trying to turn a lot of wayward organizations around,
and you only give him a couple of.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Years to do so well.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Jonathan Gannon is out at Arizona after three seasons. It
looked very promising. Initially we were hearing last week that
he was going to be brought back, and then he
was one of the victims yesterday. And man, if I'm
an Arizona Cardinal fan in here and I'm scanning the
horizon and then I'm looking at my neighbors and how
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am I going to compete in the next few years?
Doesn't look great. I mean, there are a lot of
great coaches out there the AFC West alone, with Andy
Reid and Sean Payton and Jim Harball, They're all going
to be in a Hall of fame someday all three
of those guys. But if there are three guys in
the National Football League head coaches that are described as geniuses,
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they are McVeigh, shanahan, and McDonald right now, and they
are all in the NFC West. And I just look,
I think the term great gets overused.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Do you guys know that.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I think that gets overused in the sports talk world.
The term genius gets way overused. I think that's a
very rare condition to find in a coach or a player,
to give them the genius label. I think all three
of the those guys in our division have earned it,
and I don't think there are a lot of other
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ones out there in the world that can be described
as that. I don't think there's a current coordinator that
can be described as that. And yet the Arizona Cardinals
have to find a head coach that can take a
worse roster than the other three. And let's find a
head coach that can compete with these other three guys
who are old, by the way, very young too, and
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unless they want to leave, aren't gonna be going anywhere
for the next fifteen to twenty years.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
That's what the Cardinals are up against.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
You want to talk about a steep hill to climb.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Good luck?
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Yeah, good luck is right. I mean it's I think
you probably got to look at it. If you're a
Cardinal fan er, if you're in the ownership, you know,
front office side of things is it's probably a two
phase at least two phase situation. You got to get
somebody in there that just flat out can say, Okay,
it's not necessarily you're not necessarily bringing a men for
maybe the x's and o's and winning right now against
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those three teams, because you're right, they're young. Maybe the
Niners are and the Rams are not. Their personnel is
not as young as the Seahawks are, but their coaches
are for sure. Right, they might end up having to
go through some sort of restructure rebuild with replacing some
aging guys. Right, But at the same time, the scheme
and the system, the culture's already set with those organizations.
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I think you have to first and foremost get somebody
that's going to come in and say I'm in a
clean house on anybody that doesn't have the right attitude
that we need to have to be competitive in.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
The division that we're in.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Huh So by Kyler.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
I think that riding's on the wall.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Yeah, that might be you know step number one, like, well,
we're not going to have that. We're not going to
have you know, somebody that's more interested in their call
of duty stats than their their you know, passer rating.
We're going to probably make some moves there. So I
think it might be you'll get somebody that's maybe hard
knows that you know, is not going to be long
for the job, maybe it's going to be two three years,
and but he can get you back to relevance where
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you're actually fighting and putting up a fight.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I mean, this year they went zero to six in the.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Division, and understandably so that the other three teams, like
we just talked about her are you know, I think,
three of the best.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Teams in the NFC.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
And they were supposed to be competitive, right, they were
supposed to be, Hey, watch out for the Cardinals. That
was sort of the they don't sleep on the Cardinals.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
It was following from the year before, right, everyone thought
they were going to be really good.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
They only won eight games.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
That was kind of a surprise, and then it was like, okay,
it's going to carry.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Over to twenty twenty five. These guys are watch out.
They got Marvet Harrison junior and they're.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Good three and fourteen.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah, they're going to draft.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Well they started out too and oh also, oh you
just think about that. Yeah, they went in one game
in the I mean after week three, and.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
So that's right.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
I mean, it's I don't know for sure how you
end up, you know, trying to dig yourself out of that.
To some degree, it's one of those before you start
looking at what do we do to overcome Seattle, who's
now the top dog in the division, or the Niners
in rams, which you can say are right there with
the Seahawks, and maybe you different opinions might be who's
the second best team in the division. Before you can
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even think about overcoming them, you got to think about
how do we even become competitive?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I mean, how do we get back to like just
expecting to split.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
How do we get a head coach that wants to
take on that challenge? And you'll find somebody. I mean,
it's thirty two jobs and somebody's gonna want it. But
that challenge alone, I mean, considering the type of coach,
you're gonna need to compete sooner than later and then
convincing him of the path to go against these other
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three organizations that obviously have a huge lead on them
and are of no mind to give it up any
time soon. I think maybe San Francisco with their aged lineup.
But the Rams, other than Stafford and DeVante Adams are young.
They're young across the board. They've already gone through their
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rebuild and they're still winning at that high of a clip.
So I mean, Arizona's a very attractive place for a
lot of people. Head coaches, players, baseball players kind of
want to live there, you know, year round, and I
think that there is a draw from that.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
But then again, on the flip.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Side, the Cardinals organization is historically flawed and nobody likes
the Bidwell family. No one has in one hundred years
of football like anyone from the Bidwell family, and they're
still in charge of that operation there, and clearly they
can't get out of their own way. They can't break
through to become a consistent contender in the National Football League,
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and so to get a head coach and to try
to compete with these guys, I don't where's the genius
out there?
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Right?
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Well, that's what.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
Yeah, do you want to go offensive or do you
want to go defensive? Because I mean, do you need
to find someone that's good at both? I mean it
seems impossible.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Signetti, Yeah, I mean I think it would be.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Now want to jump ship from where he's at now?
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
I don't think he would.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
But that's a that brings the entire thing with him.
It's not just a person. He brings the coaching staff
that's been with him, the process that's been with him. Now,
whether or not he's wanting to he doesn't seem like
the type that's got that written on his mirror that
I can't wait to be an NFL coach. But if
I'm the Cardinals, that's probably one of my first calls.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
He's the only guy though, that is he doesn't I
don't think he has any professional experience.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
And you never know how.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
I mean, maybe that style works on eighteen to twenty
two year olds, is it going to work on a
thirty year old left tackle?
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I don't know either, but but I mean his name
has been brought up. Clint Kubiak is the guy.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
I mean, I've looked up all these lists of top
coordinator candidates for head coaching positions, and Kubiak's name's the
one that keeps coming up, And I guess maybe there's
some logic there.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
He has some experience in the.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
San Francisco's organization. He obviously has learned a thing or
two from being around Mike McDonald. He's young, he's obviously bright.
He certainly led the Seahawks and his you know second
season or see me first season, he led them to
their best offensive year Enfranchise history. I hear softy talk
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about how he doesn't have a personality and how is
he going to handle being in the media, that it
just seems to be something that doesn't fit naturally with him.
But you know, we might have to, in all of
our zest and joy of being the number one seed,
have to accept the fact that there might be five
six teams trying to poach our offensive coordinator before the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Come to a close.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Well, that's the price you pay when you're good. You know,
people start coming looking and saying, well, what are the
Seahawks doing that I like? And if some of it
falls down to Clint Kubiak, and understandably so, because there's
been times that this offense. I mean, it's not like
it has just been thirteen to three games all season.
They've put up some big numbers at different points, and
it's just a matter of consistency. He's definitely going to
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be getting interviews now whether or not he wants to
jump ship? Did you want to if you're clinking Kubiak
and you're sitting in the number one seed behind this
young team, and you're just now getting Sam Darnold under
to understand what it is you want to do, you
want to jump ship and go take on Kyler Murray.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
I think that's the point of the conversation. That's the
bottom line here, Like, all right, so you do. Let's
let's just use Kubiak as an example. Do I really
want to go there? Yeah, and have to face that
guy across the room two times a year. That's the
guy I got to get through. I've been around him
every single day, all right? Do I want to start
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my head coaching career being in a clearly the worst
team in the division with that big of a hill,
knowing that in today's NFL game, you only get a
couple of years to prove that your only time, I mean,
the only thing they could really attract is somebody that
just wants one of the thirty two jobs. I don't
think they attract the guy that's getting ready to start
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his head coaching career. I think they attract the top
coordinator out there. I think they could attract Bill Belichick.
If they wanted Bill Belichick, I would imagine they could
get him. But you're going to take on that train
architect line. You could certainly get Pete Carris. He would
take the job you wanted if that might be waiting
outside the facility right now. I mean, that's kind of
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who you have to go after unless you just want
to take a roll of the dice on some second
level coordinator, which is what they've been doing for years
now and it's not worked. Yeah. I mean Cliff Kingsbury's
being mentioned as one of the top candidates as a coordinator.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Well, they've already had him and they've already fired him.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I don't know that they need to bring him back.
So that's a that's a really difficult decision. That's that
that's a really interesting situation they've got going down there
in the desert.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
All right.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Coming up next, speaking of the Sea Hawks, coach Holmern
did express some concerns over what happened Saturday night yesterday,
well discussed them Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFMS.
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All right, Greg ben, I's gonna join us at seven
o five this morning. Our Seahawks insider a lot more
to discuss with him, and so we'll be leaning on
him pretty heavily over the next couple of weeks as
we get ready for the seahawks first playoff game. It's
not for a long time, I'll tell you that much.
It's like twenty twenty six. Yeah, wait, it is twenty six. Yeah,
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we don't have to believeror well, oh gosh, you don't.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Have to sweat anybody. Even the Rams have just sweat
the Panthers a little bit.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
I mean they should they lost to him last time. Yeah,
but it's not like we don't have any concerns at
all with our local football team here. And coach Hombron
kind of pointed it out yes yesterday. He was bothered
by the low point total on Saturday of scoring just
thirteen points and made it quite evident that's just not
good enough. And so I think there was an element,
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a bucket of their confidence being so great that San
Francisco wasn't going to put a number up on them
that they sort of had, as Greg pointed out yesterday,
a bit of a strategy of just don't make the
mistakes and we're going to win this football game. If
we don't just hand them the ball inside our own territory,
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we're gonna win this football game. So they're just not
going to score many points. So I think that not
only was there that belief, I think there was some
strategy that was also poured into that area, but certainly
you left some points on the turf and not in
the end zone or through the uprights.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
And yeah, I admit.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Thirteen points isn't gonna be good enough, and coach just
certainly seemed a little bit nervous.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
About that going forward.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Well yeah, I mean I just don't think. I mean,
that was impeccable. The way in which the tackling was done. Now,
I think, can you repeat it? You can be close,
But like I said earlier, I don't know for sure
if there was one time where a runner after he
caught the ball or was handed to him like made
anybody miss. It was just it was unbelievable the way
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in which they went about it Now, I would say
that's closer to who they are than not. Right like
it wasn't some like oh that was that was an outlier.
This team can't tackle, No, I think they can. But
you're still gonna have plays. You're gonna have offensive minds
that are going to come up with something that it's
a good play call against whatever defense you have, and
somebody's gonna be open, and then there's gonna be room
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to run and you're gonna have to make a tackle
in an open space. And I believe that they will
do that, but probably not within one yard of the
catch every single time. So you're going to have the
ball moved against you to some degree. Now, is it
gonna be uphill sledden?
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
I would think whoever comes into Lumen Field in the
first playoff game they play here or beyond, is going
to know this is not going to be easy. It's
not going to be We're not gonna have open people
all over the field and then a bunch of yak afterwards.
And so I think that there's I think that there's
something too. Yeah, you're gonna have to score more than thirteen.
You can't leave opportunities the way in which they dominated
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on offense. I mean they moved the ball. Yeah, was
it their first six possessions they got down within inside
the thirty yard line. Well, you just think if all
six of those are field goals, you're at eighteen points.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
So yeah, they missed couple field goals, but even nineteen
to three wouldn't have felt like it wouldn't still the
scoreboard wouldn't have shown how dominant it was on both
sides of the ball.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
And so, yeah, you got to finish. You got to
finish some things in the red zone.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
They know that they're they're gonna be talking about that
once they get back off their their little week one
hiatus and they come back, they're gonna be saying, hey,
we got to get better.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
We got to finish.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Yeah, it's especially going into the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
And we have talked about, well, maybe they're not showing
everything that they've got.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Maybe they've got some.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
Stuff, but I haven't shown it by But I think
at this point, yeah, we've seen it all.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
I would assume. Well, look, I mean Jason Myers had
a really bad night. Yeah, and I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
You know, maybe it was a.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Tricky wind in San Francisco. I mean, they broadcast started
by Joe and Troy talking about the wind YEP and
it does swirl. It seems like forever every San Francisco
stadium that has ever been built.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
There's a swirling wind.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
For some other reason, they would think that their architecture
could figure that out after one hundred years. Even Steph
Curry's ball gets blown around apparently, Yeah, and that's indoors.
So apparently there's just a tricky win. I guess I
got to chalk it up to that because Myers has
been the best kicker in the National Football League this year,
but he was terrible. And it wasn't just missing two kick
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field goals. He also kicked that ball out of bounds
and gave him the ball up befoty. I think he
haven't had a penalty on the night, so he had
a terrible night the other night. I got to assume
I'm just gonna chalk that up. I'm I'm just gonna
chalk that up to not a Jason Myers problem. I'm
just gonna chalk that up to had a bad night,
had difficulty with the win swirling wins of San Francisco.
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But that alone puts you in nineteen because those are
two field goals that he makes.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
Yeah, I have enough confidence in him throughout the season
to think to put that on a bad night and
not on him.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Yeah, but it felt like a night where you should
have won thirty four to three. But they're what they
do believe is that they went in thinking thirteen, if
we scored thirteen, that's going to be enough.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
They really had that level of confidence that San Francisco
wasn't going to put points on the board against them,
So they went in with the mindset that we don't
need a lot of points, and maybe that played in
to the lack of scoring. I don't know, but coach
Almgren is concerned enough, and I think he knows football
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a little bit. I think so seeing a thing or
two that's he wasn't that's what he wanted to lead with,
not the dominant defense yesterday in the nine o'clock hour,
it was more of why only coming away with thirteen points?
Speaker 1 (40:05):
That's something to be worried about.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
So certainly something that they'll try to button up before
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