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January 6, 2026 41 mins
Headlines and 12th man news with GREGG BELL (Tacoma News Tribune) The Seahawks have the bye for Wildcard weekend, but there’s still a lot to talk about! :30- The Power of Draftmas is real as we take a look at the Seahawks success and mediocrity and how the draft affected it all. :45- There are over 4800 athletes in the transfer portal… how is that even possible!?!?

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Ashley's here, Bucky's here. My name is Chuck Powell, and
we got three more hours of radio plan for you,

(02:23):
including Greg Bell stopping by here at seven o five
talks to more Seahawks football. But first, let's get to
your frost Brood course, like juice chill headlines. The Seahawks
are on by a lot of fools in the National
Football League are playing this week, then you know that
there was a chance to not play and still have

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a shot at the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Boy, you guys really missed an opportunity to hear research.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Seahawks are on by until next week, and so yeah,
they'll just get to watch football this weekend. Like the
rest of US Wildcard playoffs starts Saturday. It'll be Carol
Line and the Rams getting it started, Bears and Packers
the Saturday night game. There'll be three games on Sunday,
and there's even a Monday night Wildcard playoff game featuring

(03:12):
the Houston Texans and Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers
in Pittsburgh, and so man, great time of the year.
Wild Card Playoffs get started on Saturday. Black Monday yesterday
caused the firings of Jonathan Gannon in Arizona. And the
most notable thing I think in the National Football League
and certainly are in Seattle, was Pete Carroll being let

(03:32):
go by the Las Vegas Raiders after just one year.
Speaking of writing on the wall, seems that Pete Carroll
has coached his last game as head coach in the
National Football League, but what a phenomenal run by Pete Carroll.
College football playoffs are going to resume on Thursday. There'll
be one game on Thursday, one game on Friday. In
the meantime, the college football transfer portal remains open and

(03:56):
all sorts of crazy stuff going on, including quarterbacks backing
out of commitments and then sighting somewhere else the very
next day. Of course, thus far, nothing really all that
meaty from Washington at this point, but certainly that thing
is ever changing and we will keep our eye on it.

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That's one of the best teams in the country and
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the hot stove, but cal Raley was named Breakthrough Athlete
of the Year by Sports Illustrated yesterday, to which Tom
Verducci explained, he's been good.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
For a while.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Yeah, yeah, but still in terms of his starter, I
think that's a great call.

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Big Dumper is a household name in every major league
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Speaker 3 (05:38):
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Speaker 4 (05:59):
Now with News, here's Greg Bell with Chuck and Bud.
What are you gonna do with an entire weekend? To yourself? Greg,
I mean, I would hope that you're working on some big, big,
you know, deep investigative article. You've got time to do
it now over the weekend.

Speaker 8 (06:18):
Yeah, more work. That sounds like something I want to
do this weekend. Maybe the opposite of that.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Okay, you can They're two ways. There are two doors
you can take here.

Speaker 8 (06:28):
Yeah, the weekend with my family for.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
H Well, I want to ask we're talking about this
about a half hour ago.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Clint Kubiak.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
With all of these coaching changes that are being made,
his name just keeps popping up. I think I saw
an article yesterday that went as far as saying he's
the number one candidate in Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
So are the.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
Seahawks prepared for this that throughout these playoffs with all
these head coaching changes, I think we're up to six
vacancies now that they're going to have to protect their
oc from all of these suitors.

Speaker 8 (07:06):
Well, they're already already. And I asked Mike McDonald yesterday
about this the reason why he's the emerging number one
candy of Atlanta. He's the only one known that the
Falcons have requested permission to talk to. And Mike McDonald
confirmed that yesterday that so far Clint Kuback is the
only one on the Seahawks staff that the team has
asked permission for and McDonald said he supports that. It's

(07:29):
a bittersweet thing for him. He said, he'd of course
love to have kobiak, but he's not going to stop
someone from their growth and moving up in the ladder.
And Clint Kubyac is in thirty eight years old, just
like Mike McDonald is. He's in the same situation McDonald
was when the Seahawks hired him. He's never been a
head coach before, a successful coordinator. This is what happens
when you're a top seed in the NFL. He's right now.

(07:52):
Clint Kuback is last year as Ben Johnson the Lions
offensive coordinator from the top one of the top playoff seeds.
The attention you get the offense was third in the league.
He ran the ball third most, third highest rate in
the league, and he had a downfield passing game that
produced a Pro Bowl quarterback and the number one receiving

(08:13):
yards receiving the receiver in the NFL. So it follows
and I'm sure the Browns are going to be interested
in him. As far as your point about the Seahawk
need to protect him through the playoffs, the NFL rules
will do that for him. The playoff bye week is
the only week that coaches from a top sea can
do interviews, and then after Sunday this comings weekend. After

(08:38):
that he's hands off and you can't interview him again
until potentially the week if there would be a bye
before the Seahawks would play in a Super Bowl. We're
getting ahad of ourselves. But the point is that this
bye week, this Atlanta asked early this week because one
they were the earliest to have a vacancy on Sunday night,
and two they have this week only before this he'll

(09:00):
go back Kubiak to coaching the Seahawks.

Speaker 6 (09:03):
What is your just kind of final verdict of I mean,
at the end of the regular season, getting ready for
the postseason. When it comes to the offense, I mean,
it's been potent. You said, you know, they finished year third,
I think and that's like for points per game, right.
I mean, it's third as far as that goes, But
it's been there's been moments where it's like this is
they run it, run it, maybe not super effectively, but

(09:24):
that's fine. It opens up for some of the downfield stuff,
the bigger, the big plays. And so what is your
final verdict as far as how just the whole thing
looks as far as week one to week eighteen, Well, they.

Speaker 8 (09:40):
Are peaking exactly the right time, and only right now
are they playing the way McDonald and Kubiak designed them
back in April to play. And if you're going to
do it, you don't want to do it in October
and not in January. So they're doing it the right way.
But you're right, it was a journey and it was
an up and down. It took them all the way
until the last three games, and now the last three

(10:00):
games one hundred and seventy three yards, one hundred and
sixty three yards, and one hundred eighty yards its season
high against the forty nine ers, all in rushing. So
it is now only now where they wanted it to
be all season. The fact is it was going to
take a while to get there, and it was we
talked about this too. If this Seahawks team was better
in September than December, they were problems. And we also

(10:23):
said way back in August in September that the December
team would be so much better on offense, and it was,
and it took until then for the whole running game
to mesh, for the blocking to be what it needed
to be. Oh, by the way, their needs and McDonald
did yesterday GiB some, but there need to be a
lot of kudos to Josh Jones thrown in there when

(10:44):
Charles Cross was injured. The last three games that they
run for one seventy one, one sixty three and one
eighty was Josh Jones at the left tackle position. He
played hurt Saturday night. They band aidd and pharmaceuticaled him
into playing that game. He was a questionable coming into
the game. He had ankle and knee injuries. He got
hurt again during the game and was in the tent

(11:05):
during the third quarter. McDonald's said yesterday, we really appreciated
him getting through that game on Saturday, which is parlance
for he needed a few extra helps medically to get
through that game. And he said, McNown said, we needed him.
They really did not want to go with an undrafted
rookie third string left tackle against the forty nine ers

(11:28):
and Amari Kite that they had just put on the
practice from the practice squad to the active ross last week.
And Josh Jones, the eight year the swing veteran that
they signed. He did his job they signed him for.
He's played really well. Now Charles Crossick's like he'll be
back playing for the first game on next Saturday. I'm
saying it's going to be Saturday. We can explain the
other if you wants.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
I actually love the Amari Kite debut performance because as
soon as Jones was out, the next camera shot you
saw was Kite was in the huddle like he was
so ready to be out there, and then and then
he just gets a couple of snaps and then he
leaves and it's like, Okay, I didn't.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Hurt the team in my debut.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Josh is ready to go, and you just saw this
giant grin on his face on the sidelines, like, well,
that was fun.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
I'm an NFL football player now.

Speaker 8 (12:15):
Well, he had he had two snaps on offense through
the first seventeen games they ran. At the end of
that drive. It was a third down play.

Speaker 9 (12:23):
They ran away from him to the right side, not
the least forty nine ers are ready for, because there
were about four to forty nine ers standing over there
to stop the play and force the punt. And then
Cross came back on but the I kite and then
he impressed them way back in the spring, but not
enough that they wanted him to be the front left tackle.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Sure, Greg Bell is with us our Seahawks inside. He
could follow him.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
At the Newstribune dot com for complete Seahawks coverage and
of course at g Bell Seattle there on X. Let's
talk about injuries. I mentioned this yesterday. I mean, this
is about as healthy as you can be. You talk
about the car crashes every week in the National Football League.
To get through the season, seventeen of these games, and

(13:03):
to have a buy to be this healthy, and to
also get the benefit of two weeks to rest and
get everybody like Kobe Bryant and Charles Cross and everybody
up to speed for that first playoff game in two weeks,
I mean, how valuable is that compared to home field
advantage and by week and not having to face anybody

(13:24):
this week? I mean, I think that's as a valuable
a commodity that you earned as anything.

Speaker 8 (13:30):
Normally. Yes, but the Seahawks have been so good Chuck
plugging in Tyokatta and player Cody White before he now
got hurt in his oun injurieserve of guys who've been hurt,
and then Phillins have to come in. They do it
need Kobe Bryant back. He's not as a slam dunk
as Charles Cross as he'll play in the first playoff game,
but Tyocott has been great for him. Ocatta had a

(13:52):
couple of great open field tackles early in the game
again against the forty nine ers. I still think the
most important thing about to buy is you have one
fewer game to win to go to the super Bowl,
one fewer game to get tripped up, one fewer game
that maybe the matchup isn't exactly what you want, one
fewer game that you might have a turnover game that
makes what should be a win for you turn into

(14:14):
a struggle. Just one fewer game. And the way the
new NFL playoff structure is only one team in each
conference gets that top seed, and that's the biggest care
of that. But yes, the corollary of having the week
off after eighteen games, even guys who excuse me, too
many plane flights, even the guys who have even guys

(14:36):
who are not on the injured list are benefiting from
this week. Just because you're not on the injury report,
it doesn't mean you're not hurt. They're all hurt. I mean,
Sam Donald, all of them are hurting in some way
and that's the big value this week. So to that end,
McDonald's going to be given Yesterday was meeting day, recuperation
day in the training room. Today he's giving them off.

(14:58):
Tomorrow and Thursday are going to be the only two
practice days of the week, and then they get Friday, Saturday,
and Sunday off, So it's like two thirds of a
full week off of these guys. That is huge. In January,
you're going to see a much fresher team come back
on the field Monday.

Speaker 6 (15:14):
Well just one more I mean, the idea it's not
maybe as urgent considering how Rashid Shaheed has now kind
of been thrust into that role on the offense.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
But Tory Horton, do you think he'll be back for
the playoffs?

Speaker 8 (15:27):
Nope? It sounds like McDonald said they don't expect him
to be probably not playing until next year. Shin condition.
I tried to pinpoint was it a fracture, was it
a stress fracture? And he just said it was a
shin And they don't expect him to be back, and
you're right, the urgency for him to be back much less.

(15:47):
There is a chicken in the egg story behind the
trade of Shaheed and the injury to Horton, And we're
not sure which came first, because Horton got injured to
night he had the two touchdowns against Washington on November two,
but he didn't as far as McDonald has told us,
he didn't disclose it or it didn't be comparent until

(16:08):
the midweek following, and by then they had already traded
for Shahed. In the time from the game Sunday night
to the practice Wednesday, they traded for Shahed, I'm pretty
sure the Seahawks had some inkling that it wasn't great
with Horton, which is why they gave two third round,
third day picks to the Saints for Shahed. But yes,
Shaheed has taken what Horton was doing, and now all

(16:28):
of a sudden, you got to consider resigning Shahit. His
rookie contract ends with the end of this season, and
he has been I talked to Jay Harbor about him
in the return game. I was talking about his some
of his schemes and some of the things he does
strategically Harba, and he said, I got Shaheed making everything
I do look good. So I would expect them to
hit Shihed to be one of the next guys that

(16:50):
they re up. But they can't resign everyone, and they don't.
That's the way it is every year. Kenneth Walker, Kobe Bryant,
Riek Wolan, Rashid Shaheb, all of those contracts are ending
this year.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
Yeah, I had heard about Horton, but I haven't heard
an update on Arroyo. Last I heard what regular season
was over. He wasn't exactly playing that go to football
before his injury. And right now they seem to have
some good going with Barner and Sobbered that little combination.
So what's the update on his injuries? He gonna be
ready for the playoffs and is there even a role

(17:22):
for him here?

Speaker 3 (17:24):
As we get things started.

Speaker 8 (17:26):
There's a chance he Arroyo, Halani, and Chas Surat will
all come back. McDonald said, and they can. They have
three elevations, three activations from injured reserve left to use
in the playoffs, so those three could come back. Horton
being of the four that our injuries there, Horton would
be the one that won't come back. So yes, there's

(17:46):
a possibly they'll all come back. And there is a
role for him because of his size, because of his
ability to be in the slot and play outside. They
wouldn't mind having an extra receiving threat for the playoffs.
And you're right, he hasn't had the production that maybe
they've envisioned the st of the season for him, But yeah,
there are plays in the playbook specifically for Arroyo if
they wouldn't mind putting back out in the slot and

(18:08):
creating some matchup advantages for them.

Speaker 6 (18:11):
How much of the one hundred and eighty yards rushing
against the Niners do you expect? Is this team catching
up to what Klint Kubiak and Mike McDonald want them
to do. Obviously from the beginning of the season, but
now it's flourishing. How much is that that they it
Sundale's back or you know that the offensive line has
figured out what that is And how much of that

(18:32):
was on the running backs hitting the holes where they're
supposed to, or it was do you put a lion's
share of that on the Niners and how banged up
they are.

Speaker 8 (18:41):
Well, it's true in the Niners defense as shell itself,
but they also did it against the Panthers. They also
did against the Rams. So now it's becoming a trend
no matter who they're playing. And I still think there
are times that Kenneth Walker has four or five guys
waiting on him like he's a bus rolling up to
the transfer center on especially on stretch out side plays.

(19:03):
So they're not all the way there yet. And as
McDonald said after the game Sunday night, we started really well,
running the ball one hundred and fifteen yards in the
first half, their most in two seasons, and then they
didn't run a lot in the third into the fourth quarter,
and he said that they've got to be better about
countering what the defense cat. He said the forty nine
Ers started to counter their run plays and specifically taking

(19:25):
away some of the outside zone and in the gaps,
and that the Seahawks didn't have a counter to the
Niners counter. McDonald's point was we need to play a
four quarter game. So that's the next frontier for them.
They're getting the yards, they're getting Sharbonnet and Walker producing,
but now can they do it for four quarters? And
that'll be the challenge for the divisional playoff game? Can
we have a four quarter running game instead of one

(19:47):
that just gets yards and chunks one hundred and eighty yards.
A lot of them came in big runs, so they
think of the nineteen yards on third and seventeen by Walker. That's,
by the way, Now three weeks in a row they've
gotten the and long looked like a white flag run
turned into a first down. And by the way, since
you're talking about it, no one's talking about Jake Bobo
on that play. I don't know if you noticed he

(20:09):
was in the slot on the right side on the
third and seventeen. I went back yesterday. I was looking
at the film when the huddle broke and Donald gave
the offense to play call. Cooper cup tapped Jake Bobo
on the back as they were breaking the huddle, meaning
it turned out to me, if this block's on you, sir, well,

(20:31):
Jake Bobo took out three forty nine ers. He bought
three different forty nine ers on that play that led
to the game, And I asked McDonald about that play yesterday.
Bobo's only played seventeen percent of the offensive snaps this year.
He's played like one hundred plus snaps when he was
in the three hundreds the first two years, and he's

(20:52):
not exactly been happy with his role. Cody White has
emerged and Bobo has often been a healthy scratch. In fact,
he didn't play six games this year. And McDonald's said,
that's what I need. That's the kind of seahawk I need.
That's what I'm talking about. A guy who's always ready,
who's selfless, who may not be happy with his own
individual situation, but is benefiting the team, and he's there

(21:13):
when we need him. And he was there on third
and nineteen taking out three forty nine ers on three
different blocks.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Well, there you go.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
There's your deep the story that you can do this weekend.

Speaker 8 (21:23):
How I'm already thinking, yeah, I'm got to talk to
him tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
How did Jake Bobo go from a guy that can
catch everything thrown his way to an offensive lineman, because
that's kind of what he's become.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Just a blocker out there.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
All right, man, Thank you, we appreciate it. We'll talk
to you again tomorrow.

Speaker 8 (21:39):
All right, Happy Tuesday.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
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Speaker 4 (22:09):
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I don't really want her competing in combat sports and
training in it, you know, learning it.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Yeah, I don't really want that.

Speaker 6 (23:13):
No, no, no, I think maybe you and I could
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you know, like maybe it's standing on a little balance,
being only a couple of inches off the ground, you know,
with the helmet, and then smacking each other with a
pugel sticking.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Something like that. Yeah, yeah, well maybe those.

Speaker 6 (23:32):
Big Actually, I know what I want to do. I
want you to do the run where you have to
try to shoot the target. But I'm up with the
tennis balls shooting at you.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
You know, it was my favorite.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
It's a great idea.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Yeah, I think that was my favorite event.

Speaker 6 (23:47):
And then I'll watch you do the eliminator. You can
do it, because I wouldn't get about it.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
I just remember the one, Yeah, the first one.

Speaker 6 (23:57):
I don't want to really do it very high. I
definitely don't want to be on that big pedestal to
fall all the way down. It's a pit too far.

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Speaker 2 (24:07):
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good morning. It is chucking buck in the mornings.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
And of course we got a couple of weeks you
get ready for Seahawks playoff football because we've got to
buy suck on that San Francisco.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
And so I I want to discuss this morning because
you do have to be reminded.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
I think of this.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
He just can't do it during the season. I mean,
I think that's cheating. It's like only going to church
on Christmas and Easter. I need to remind you of
the power.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Of draftness every once in a while.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
And look in all seriousness, like two of my favorite
things about sports as a fan. I I never really
was one that poured too much emotion into my watching
of sports. You guys are the ones that turned me
into a fool Seattle, and so I never really poured
much emotion into it. I was always about the puzzle

(25:06):
making aspects. So two of my favorite things are the draft,
as you might have picked up on the NFL Draft,
and then also like the Major League Baseball roster construction.
Two probably my two favorite topics to discuss in sports
are those two things. And yet there are still a
lot of people and I realize I go too far

(25:26):
the other way, but man, there are still other people
that think the draft is just a crap shoot and
a waste of time, and that prospects should be traded
away because they're nothing. And it's just I don't know
how much more evidence that you need. I mean, these
are the areas that you need to thrive in. These
are what sets your roster up, and then you use

(25:50):
free agency and trades to fill in the gaps. That's
how it has to work. And I realized there are
a couple of examples in baseball, particularly where teams used
free agency to end up buying championships, but more often
than not, and especially in football, because you have a
salary cap, you can't just have an owner that goes

(26:11):
out there and spends a trillion dollars compared to the
rest of them just.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Spending a billion.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
You've got to come through in the draft, and if you,
as a Seahawks fan, don't understand it, then I don't
know if there's any getting through to you. Because think
about what the Seahawks did between twenty twelve and twenty twenty.
They went ninety eight, forty five and one. It was
the best run in franchise history. Eight playoff appearances in

(26:39):
nine years, four Division titles, two Super Bowl appearances, one
Super Bowl victory, and a nine year span. And that
was certainly accentuated and bolstered by Michael Bennett, Cliff Abril,
Marshawn Lynch some of the additions that they made over
that span of time. But you're out of your mind

(27:02):
if you don't think that that team's foundation was the
twenty ten, twenty eleven, and twenty twelve draft when they
got Russell Locoombe Earl, Thomas Golden, Tate, Cam Chancellor, James Carpenter,
kJ Wright, Richard Sherman, Malcolm Smith, Bruce Irvin, Billy Wagner,
Russell Wilson. That's in a three year span, and those

(27:26):
are just the stars. I didn't even mention the other
starters that they got during that stretch as well. I mean,
that foundation that they found through the draft is what
made them a perennial super Bowl contender for nine fricking years.
And you know, for those that like we should have
been a dynasty, we should have won more, I agree
with you. That didn't happen, but certainly you were set

(27:50):
up for that to happen. And now guess what you're
getting set up for that to happen again. From twenty
thirteen to twenty twenty one, that was some bad drafting
at best mediocre drafting. That was some bad to mediocre
draft And that's a long stretch of time twenty thirteen
to twenty twenty one where you didn't have near the

(28:12):
success that you had from twenty ten to twenty twelve.
And the result was never terrible, but you were mediocre
and you felt that mediocrity for the last four years.
Over the course of the last four years, thirty five
and thirty three with one playoff appearance, that was the
ramifications of not drafting well. But what has happened in

(28:34):
this turnaround? Number one seed? How about these drafts since
twenty twenty two Cross, Mafe Walker, Lucas Bryant and Woolan
all in one draft.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
That's pretty good?

Speaker 4 (28:49):
The next year Witherspoon, JSN Hall, Charbonnet and Bradford. That's
four started, four and a half starters. You count Scharbone
as a one be running back. Twenty twenty four not
as successful deathwise, but Murphy Barner and then twenty twenty
five Zabel Emon Worri Horton, who contributed Arroyo oots. I mean,

(29:16):
over the course of the last four years, what you've done,
and is it any surprise that you've bumped to fourteen
and three this year with a young roster. John Schneider's
done it again through the draft. And yes he's added
Darnold and he's added Lawrence, but the foundation of this
this roster was built through.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
The power of draftness.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
And this is why this team set up not just
to possibly win a Super Bowl this year, but maybe
you do end up with your dynasty, Maybe you do
end up with your nine years of success with multiple
championships because of how frickin' well John Schneider is.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Drafted in the last four years.

Speaker 6 (29:56):
Yeah, yeah, I agree, I mean, I think that there's
I think that that you were talking about kind of
that twenty ten, eleven twelve that set it up or
was it eleven, twelve thirteen, whatever, that that that draft
set you up to where all of a sudden you
had a core group of player playmakers and that were
gonna be able to you then just had to kind

(30:17):
of figure out what to plug and play around that
group of guys. I think that sets you up for
the run that they had, the legion of boom days.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
I think then the fall off where for some reason there.

Speaker 6 (30:28):
Was a bunch of years later they didn't have any
first round picks, where so your first picks, the forty
fifth or the sixtieth pick or whatever it is.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
I think that there's.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
Well, they were using that window to bolster the team,
the Jimmy Grahams and the and those editions, and that's
what you do when you've got a chance, when you're
in the window and you have a chance to win.

Speaker 6 (30:46):
Right and yet you if you then don't nail that
second rounder and the third rounder like they have in
the last few drafts, or they've nailed all of them,
the first, second, third, whatever it is. If you don't
nail those, then you're gonna find a lull. There's gonna
come a point in time when either you know, you
have to move on from a Bobby Wagner for if
it's financial reasons, or Russell Wilson is no longer the

(31:09):
player and so it's time to move on from him.
When you have to do that, if all of a sudden,
that's where that draft class was supposed to have somebody
that could fit in there and and kind of bridge
that gap, so to speak, or just take over where
they left off, then you find yourselves kind of toiling
in mediocrity. Hence the end of the kind of Pete
Carroll era. I think that now all of a sudden, Yeah,

(31:29):
you've had a few drafts in a row now where
it's all bolstered again and it's all with a bunch
of young dudes, and so you're set up for it,
and then the time is gonna come. You got to
keep that rolling. You got to keep having good draft misses,
because that's where when all of a sudden, you have
to make decisions on Okay, ken Walker, what are we
doing there? And when you have to start making decisions
and guys are gonna move on, you have to be

(31:51):
able to replace it with the guys that you drafted
in in the more recent years.

Speaker 10 (31:53):
And I do think John Schneider is incredible at what
he does. I do think Pete has to get some
credit for the early days. I mean, the two of
them were clearly a team doing it together well, for sure,
and it just obviously as the relationship progressed, they were
maybe on different pages. And so I'm glad that you know,
the situation is the way it is now and clearly
John still got that draft magic.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
Yeah, John doesn't get all the credit. No, No, he
doesn't get all the blame. But there was a stretch
of time where they just weren't hitting. I mean, your
top drafts for a stretch, Kristen Michael, Paul Richardson, Frank
Clark was good, Jermaine Effetti, Malik McDowell, are your top
picks and successive Rashad Penny which everybody LJ Collier, which

(32:35):
everybody questioned at the time. Yeah, Jordan Brooks was pretty good, uh,
Dwayne Eskridge. I mean that was a nine year stretch
of drafting where you're missing on your top pick every
single year, and the end result of it was four
years of mediocrity. Never were terrible, and there's where Pete
gets a lot of credit. Never were terrible. Yeah, but

(32:57):
certainly the the it had worn off. Yes, that three
years of bumper crop, you know, drafting had worn off.
They built the foundation to win for nearly a decade,
but then you just didn't keep the ball rolling.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
You weren't just you just weren't having successful drafts.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
Well now four now you've had four successful years in
a row, and you've got it again, another potential with
a great, young, defensive minded head coach in charge. Maybe
now you do get that dynasty you felt you missed
out on. I mean there's a chance. I mean, we
don't want to put the car before the horse. You
got to play a playoff game this year. But nonetheless, man,

(33:36):
it is set up beautifully and it's through the power
of the draft.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
And I hear you. I hear you all. I hear
what you're telling me, Ashley, Bucky, all the listeners. We
got to do more draft. I didn't hear that, right.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
You're picking up what I'm laying down.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Yes not. I don't think what you said more draft
talk on the show.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
I might not have set it out loud, but my
eyes and my heart are pretty sure.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
Pretty well, I know what you're saying, Like, I just
haven't poured my heart entirely.

Speaker 6 (34:02):
You have this like yeah, your heart, yeah, your head
and yeah, but you've poured all kinds of things into it.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
I don't think you need anymore.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
There, My good, Thank you, Ashley. I'm that's that's the
sentiment that I'm picking up on.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
So you got it.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
I got a greater fever for it right now than ever.
All right, coming up next, I don't know. Uh, maybe
I'll enter the transfer portal. Seems like it's what everybody's
doing right now. Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ
R f M. Maybe that would convince some players to
actually stay where they are.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Keeps me home a lot.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
I don't want to deal with that traffic.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yeah, that keeps me home quite a yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
And also, if you know, if you're a decent American,
you use turn signals, and so that actually gives a
little bit more warning up. Yeah, a little heads up
as to what we need to prepare for. This portal.
Thing's just so mysterious and you get to just disappear
inside of it and it h I don't know, it's

(35:00):
a scary world out there. Forty eight one hundred players
are currently and the college football transfer Portal as we speak.
I I mean, I heard that number and I literally
had to look it up, like that's not true. Yeah,
there's no way that that's true. Are there even I'm
trying to do the math inside my head, how many

(35:20):
college football players are there? There can be much more
than forty eight hundred, right, And I'm sitting here looking
it up, and yeah, Hannah.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
Storm is right.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
Over forty eight hundred players are in the college football
transfer portal as we speak. My goodness, you don't have
to convince young kids today that the grass is greener
somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
I'll tell you that much. It's it's such a weird.
It doesn't seem it just isn't right. It didn't. I mean,
I don't. I don't fault them for.

Speaker 6 (35:47):
Wanting to go somewhere, especially if your team brought in
somebody that plays your position that you know, if you
were sitting in line or you red shirted, and you're thinking,
all right, this guy's out, he's going to the NFL,
or he's a senior, he's out.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
I'll be in there, and then they're like, Nah, not
so fast.

Speaker 6 (36:02):
We're gonna bring this guy in and he's going to start,
and you're like, all right, well, then I'm going to
go somewhere that I can play.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
So I get how it works and why it works,
but it just doesn't seem right.

Speaker 6 (36:10):
It just seems somehow you have to figure out something
to where there's some sort of commitment level. I mean,
something beyond just a yeah, I'll come there, because it
really is there's no commitment none. I mean, I don't
even think that they have the contracts with their nil money.
If you're going to pay him, which they should, and

(36:33):
that that that's never going to change, so good, then
make it to wear here. We will pay you your
five million dollars to come be our guy, or two
hundred thousand whatever it is, uh, depending on the player
and the position in the school. But you're here for
two years minimum or whatever. You got to figure something out.
This just doesn't seem like it's a sustainable way in
what you're doing well.

Speaker 10 (36:53):
And I mean we've talked about it before, just the
amount of donors and people that are gonna get sick
of pain a year after year after year. I was
reading yesterday about a USC guy that caught one pass
for twenty five yards and he was paid half a
million dollars and now he's leaving. But it's like, so
will they make it incentivized now, Like, hey, you could
earn up to this much money, but you gotta do something.

Speaker 8 (37:15):
Well.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
I would, Yeah, I would think that. I mean anytime
if you.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Buy, if you if you have to hire a thatcher
because your roof is leaking, yeh, don't you expect your
roof to get thatched?

Speaker 8 (37:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (37:27):
Don't you expect it to not leak afterwards? I mean
Troy Igman has mentioned this as well. Dante More is
the guy he was talking about that went to Oregon.
I paid that guy like a million dollars, yep, and
not only did he only stick around for one year.
Now my million dollars is leading Oregon to the Final

(37:48):
four and I didn't even get a thank you note
or a goodbye for everything that I contributed to getting
that player to UCLA.

Speaker 8 (37:55):
Thank you game.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
There's your thank you?

Speaker 4 (37:58):
That or that is unsustainable And I think they're going
to chase a lot of people away. But I think
what Texas Tech is proving is we got a lot.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Of stupid money. Yeah, oil money.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
That is attached to this program. We don't care if
we blow a million here or there. What else are
we gonna do? Give it to sick kids? Yeah, I
mean that's their mentality. I'd rather have a great football.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Team oil money.

Speaker 10 (38:22):
They're just going to take the old people to the
casino and let them blow it off.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
Yeah exactly. I mean that's what they do in Love
with Texas.

Speaker 8 (38:31):
Everyone knows.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Very interesting case though at ole Miss, because right now.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
This is this is the craziest story.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
So Ole Miss assistant coaches who are following Lane Kiffin
are still trying to coach ole Miss in the playoff,
and so he had to grant them permission to fly
back to Ole Miss last night just so they could.
They've been not part of the preparation for this game

(39:03):
Thursday until last night. Oh wow, at least they haven't
been there in person. And then they both sides had
to agree on what you can do to tamper transfer
portal wise in order just to let.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Them back to come and coach. Just insanity.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
And yet through it all, Kewan Lacy, the Old Miss
star running back, re upped with Ole Miss last night Trinidad.
Chambliss said he's re upping with Ole Miss, not following
Lane kiffen to LSU.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
And I do wonder like, why are all you assistants?
Why did you think the grass?

Speaker 4 (39:38):
Why did you as grown men think the grass was
greener with Lane Kiffin and LSU. Kind of feels like
you got a good thing going in Ole Miss. Kind
of feels like your players want to be there. Kind
of feels like there's this edge to everyone at ole Miss,
Like I'd rather play at Old Miss for what Pete
Golding is doing. That's more of an inspirational story than
following Lane Kiffin, dumb ass the Louisiana. So maybe you're

(40:04):
the fools the coaches that have decided to leave with
Lane Kiffin.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
You might have had a better thing at Ole Miss
if you just stayed.

Speaker 6 (40:12):
Yeah, well, I mean, I guess I would imagine it's
that Okay, you're you're gonna get you're gonna get paid.
If you don't know who for sure is going to
be the next head coach, then you don't know for
sure if you're going to have that job. Yeah, well
he is now right, Yeah, but you don't know for
sure if he's going to then he got the job.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
He got the job for.

Speaker 6 (40:30):
For sure, So then yeah, you would think if you
knew that you're secure in your job with him as
at the Helm, then I don't understand the reason why
you would leave a team that's basically going to finish
at least in the top four in the country for
a rebuilding situation.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
It's not like Louisiana's that cool of a place. Been there,
It's not really that cool. I don't know, I don't
mind it.

Speaker 6 (40:55):
I mean, they got mosquitoes the size of hummingbirds and
it's always humid. Then again, Mississippi, Yeah, not a whole
heck of a lot different. So yeah, to me, it's
the whole thing is just it doesn't seem sustainable the
way in which it is right now. It's just way
too much mayhem. Can we please get some sort of
rules and regulations wrap our arms around it.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
It's not the way it's supposed to be.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
I don't think it's going to be the priority. I
think the priority of this offseason is the calendar and
fixing the calendar. So we're probably going to deal with
this for a little while longer, and it has given
us this free agency thing that we've never had before,
and people do seem to like it, but long term,
I'm with you, it's not sustainable.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Tomorrow when we have more time. Tom Brady has weighed.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
In on this and it is fascinating, So we'll play
that for you tomorrow when we have more time to
discuss it amongst ourselves. Coming up next, though CBS rules analysts,
the Great gene Sterotur joins us on Chuckin'box Sports Radio
ninety three point three KJRFM
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