January 6, 2026 • 42 mins
GENE STERATORE (CBS Rules Analyst) - Can we start assessing penalties for bad attitudes? - What happened with that Mike MacDonald challenge/timeout mishap? - Is there a better way to determine the spot of the ball? - Soooo… about that “false start” on the Seahawks? - Tet McMillan got called for OPI, how valid was that? - Would Gene have just let the Ole Miss/Georgia game end? :30- EVERETT FITZHUGH (Kraken Audio Network PxP) - The kraken have no won 7 of their last, so what’s the key to this Kraken turnaround? - Can we take a minute to talk about THAT pass from Meyers to Wright? Wow! :45- People can’t get away from the anti-Sam Darnold narrative. Can we give the guy a break? He’s played in one playoff game! Does he have proving to do? Absolutely, but he’s not the only one!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Well.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
He's the greatest NFL official that's ever lived, and now
he entertains this all week and long at CBS Sports
as their rules analyst, and he is our friend. Jeene
Sterotur is with us. Happy New Year, sir.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Oh, happy near you're Tucking Buck. It's great to hear.
Provy fellows.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Did you ring in the New year at any Did
you do anything special?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
You know?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
We did.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
We taught him my lovely wife and I did travel
to Kansas City to visit one of the children.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And that's right. I really.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Even more importly, we built a bunch of you know,
blankets over the chair forts with the little grandkids, and
I spent forty eight hours on the floor. You know,
my back is letting me know that I did it.
But it was, uh, it was worth every second of it.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Do kids just naturally pick up on the fort building
aspect or did you have to teach them that you
can build a fort out of couch cushions?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
You know.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
I think, you know, in this day and age, because
everything is like so prepped, you know, and they get
on Amazon you can buy this like be configured fort.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I think when you go old school with them, the uh.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
The light bulb kind of goes off, like, man, I
didn't realize all this stuff that's been around me every
day we actually can do something with, you know. So
one thing I could say for my son and my
daughter in law, they're very creative and they do go
old school a bunch. And and the kids were the
fort was amazing. We like the three or four room fort.
We were you know, we were just killing it this week,
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you know, and it was you know, I was the
monster for thirty seconds and then it was half tears
and then papped, Hope be the monster and then back
to the monster.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Was Well, I love that there's not couch fort building
the video game, or that you know, your your children
have a robot building the forts for their children. Yeah,
that's great. Some old school things staying alive. All right, Well,
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let's dive into a few things. Seahawks played a pretty
big game against the San Francisco forty nine ers on
Saturday night. I don't know if you heard, but we
won and so, but there are a lot of things
in there that that can be discussed. I'll go ahead
and start with this play. Juwan Jennings seemed to be
very frustrated from the San Francisco forty nine ers all
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night long. I mean, obviously they weren't having much success,
but he seemed frustrated and on the verge of wanting
to fight on several different plays. And he actually did
start one out of bounds with Devin Witherspoon, one of
the seahawks best defenders, and they were officials standing right
there looking at it. Why would there be no flag
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with that much activity taking place that far out of bounds?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Gene, Yeah, you know that would chuck.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
I thought at the end of the play, you kind
of got to throw a flag on the play, right,
I know. It was on the opposite side of the
field where the end of the play happened.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Two players are.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Kind of engaged and kind of going at each other
away from the play, and the actual contact is on
the field of play as they start riding each other,
you know, out of bounds. By rule though that's fine
up until a point, but once we get into white
and we're out of bounds, now you've got to kind
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of disengage, right. Our mantra was always once there are
four seat in the white, meaning both players that are
engaged are now out of bounds, the activity needs to
stop at that point, and as you said, at the
genders kind of took that in a little bit further
and wanted to finish whe us right out of bounds.
So at that point, I think that's when you go
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from trying to manage a game or a situation to hey, listen,
I've been here blowing my whistle.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
You guys knew I was next to you, but.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
You just couldn't resist right like, you had to finish it.
So for that reason, you know, we're going to fill fifteen.
And I think in that case that's kind of where
my thought was on it, and I thought that's really
how they should have handled it.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Well.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
Usually when it happens, though, Gene, usually what because I
mean at the end, Devin Witherspoon gets up.
Speaker 7 (04:31):
And I think that Jennings was still down on the ground.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
He was in the process of getting up and then
he puts his hands up like, hey, I wasn't the one.
Speaker 7 (04:37):
It wasn't me, even though there was a little bit
of bolt.
Speaker 6 (04:41):
So is that really one where more often than not
you end up throwing the flag and then you go
offsetting penalties or an sportsmanker, unnecessary roughness whatever on both teams.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
Shame on you don't do it again, nothing happens.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Yeah, you know what, Bucky. I mean, that's a great
point in part of the NFL philocity. See, and I know,
at least the years I was there, we always really
stress to try to get the first one right because
if we're just offsetting this thing, then.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Really, what are we gaining.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
There's no harm, no situation here, So there is there
a deterrent now to offset, so you want to get
the instigator. Many times you miss that, and I think
in this case, you know, maybe if because it's a
physicality thing and not a taunt. See with a taunt
in the NFL. Okay, look, we can slight both of
you for tawning, and we put you both on alert
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because now you both have one tawning file against you,
meaning that if you have another one today it's going
to lead to your dismissal from the game. Now you
have a deter element in there that, yeah, let's flag
everybody involved and put them all on blast because now
they're one step away. And now it becomes I think
more productive type of a file. But with physical plays,
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they don't really put that extra level in, right, So
that's something I think competition Committee to talk about, where
you know, even though it's a physical situation and unnecessary
roughness as opposed to what sportsmanlike in certain situations, let's
go ahead and apply this unnecessary roughness file and add
to it that in the event that there's an unsportsmanlike
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or another unnecessary rough dis play that falls in this category,
we can eject you. Then I think filing, you know,
flagging everyone is a better you know, kind of a
better practice.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Well, I kind of like the idea as I'm listening
to the two of you talk, all right, so you
you know, we can't expect you to see how it
all starts, even though that's the person that should get
the fifteen yard penalty, but you can see like the
guy that reacts the worst afterwards, like you could give
offsetting fifteen yard personal foul penalties, but then fifteen yards
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unsportsmanlike for whining against Juwan Jennings or playing the victim,
and then you still get to hit him with the
fifteen yards in the aftermath following me there.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
You know, I think there's someone with the last name
hockey Lely somewhere that really is excited about that, because
imagine that announcement too, right, I mean this is a
long one, so you know, everybody kind of sit back, relax,
and then let me get.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Through this whole thing. You know, Yeah, I like it.
I like it.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Jean's territorres with Us a segment every week, brought to
you by BMW Seattle. There was also a play rock
party steps out of bounds. It looked like he was
two yard shy. They marked him one yard shy. Then
I still to this day don't know what happened. Mike
McDonald was his challenge flag comes out of his pocket.
(07:39):
I guess he didn't throw it, and then he ends
up having to call him time out. I don't know
if he wasn't granted. I don't know if he's not
allowed to be granted, But it just seemed like a
really strange sequence. Do you have any way of explaining
what went down there?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (07:54):
This is good take, ye know, a little bit confusing, reactionary.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I think by the coach that's it.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
I would say that dropping the flag or anadvertent after review,
I might have to say, you know, that might be overturned.
I think he threw the flag, you know, I mean
he but I think his reaction was he felt like
the spot of the play was egregiously missed. As you said, right,
it's not fourth and one instead of fourth and two,
which is a huge difference, especially in the Tush push era.
(08:22):
I think the extra yard means something. By rule, you
can't challenge just where you think that they missed the spot.
You have to challenge a play in relation to the
line the game, or to a touchdown or something to
that effect. You just can't throw a challenge flag and say,
I think you guys missed the spot by two yards
if it doesn't have a first down involved or something
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like that. In this case, Seattle is still right. San
Francisco's still short of the line the game. Now, if
he plays a little word solid and kind of plays
lou pole, he throws the flag and says, I want
to challenge the ruling as it relates to a first down,
and then they go look at the review and go,
you know what, what do you think that he get
the first down? I mean, why a you're challenging it
because you marked the short be unique to see a
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defensive coach challenge a play saying, hey, I think it's
the first down. But once they get into review, and
if they can legally get in right by the rules,
now they can adjust the spot of the football. So
I think, what we you know, so there's a kind
of just loopage, right, I mean, as it relates to
the procedure, And then we can all ask this too
(09:25):
in situations like that with this new toy we have
and use more frequently than we ever have before with
replay assists, you see an egregiously or ronossly misspot on
a play with a pending fourth down, which is in
a huge situation, why does it replay assist just come
down and move the football backyard because it was a
(09:47):
pretty clean you know, we saw the foot You gotta
just all you have to do now a stitch whereas
the football and the footage the white and put the
football there and fix this. Uh, But then when you
have that flag that is thrown and now which calls
time out, it's kind of a double whammy because really,
if you think that he really intentionally throws the flag
and then has a reaction following that flag, which he
(10:10):
can't grow there, and then he calls the time out
by rule, the truth of it is, you charge him.
What's the time out he called? He now has thrown
a flag that is on a play that isn't challengeable,
which he stopped the game by if you say it
that way and you charge him.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Another time out, you know.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
So there was a lot of levels there and officials
like to not get to that place so saying that
the flag fell out of his hand, saying that he
kind of misinterpreted what we could what could be challenged.
And I went over there and corrected it real quick,
and let's just put it away and I can give
you a kind of a do over there.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
You know.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
You try to stay away from that, right, And I
think that's kind of where we probably ended at the
end of the day with it.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
But there were a lot of layers there.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Yeah, Gene, I'm gonna ask one more just on kind
of the spotty because to me, I don't get all
that frustrated with calls. I feel like there's you know,
it's not an easy thing to do with you guys,
referees even baseball umpires do and yet it's twenty twenty six.
To me, it feels like there should be some sort
of way of having micro chips on the tips of
the ball and around the center of it, some do
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where you actually can use technology to know exactly where
the ball was, like where the forward progress stopped, and
then you'd have to sync that up to okay, well
when was the knee down? And that to me seems
like you could use technology to do it because there's
so many times where you see the two linesmen coming
in and one is a foot off of where the
other one is or a yard off of where the
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other one is, and that can be the difference between
winning and losing a game. Would you be in for
instituting technology in the ball to kind of help you
guys or help the spots of the ball.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Oh yeah, I think one hundred, Bucky, and I think
you hit it. I mean where it becomes really difficult
is and we've seen these many times too, right, and
that is when is the body part down with the
player down by contact by rule, and then let's look
to see where the ball is at that moment as well. Right,
So the chip in the ball is great if a
player is airborne and diving for the goal line, and
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we could have a freeze frame there because the breaking
of the plane and the chip could put a sensor off.
When we have these plays in these massive bodies and
now we just see like the right shin once the
ankle rolls does go down. Okay, where's that football at
that point?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
You know? How do we get that indicator? Like, how
does you know? Unless we just censored up.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Maybe we just put little mini sensors on every part
of every player's body that would put him down by
contact and the moment that that body part hits it
triggers the ball, you know, or something like that, which
would be a lot of sensors. I think it'd be
a lot of little little dots on your body. But
I think that's where they're running into that piece of
this where they can't just do exactly what he said,
(12:53):
because we do know and again, as you said, Bunky,
like two feet in this game would be the difference
of a possession which we all know or just so important, right,
so we want to get that thing right. And I
know when I worked at the line of scrimmage officials
in the NFL in the old days when we didn't
have even replay assists, they wore their ability to spot
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footballs and be able to know when that body part
went down and where that ball was. That was like
their badge of arnor right. Like they really were detailed
personally with it. They were also challenged to have to
get them right without anybody helping either.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
So I think their level of.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Awareness on really focusing there and knowing there's no safety
that might be or have been at a higher level
than maybe we are today when he replay can fix it,
you know, so just get in the neighborhood and then
replay can fix it. So but it is something you'd
love to see technology fix because we want to get
those right by the interest.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
So you couldn't do like they do in long jump
and just have like a thin layer of sand over
the field and you see where the intention of the
ball is and then you just then you just rake
over it every between every play.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
What do you think it's great? Something else that just
starts to float with the game.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Hold on a minute, there's a lot of you managed
to slid across the sand. There'd be like nine guys
out there in a bunker trying to get it all level.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
You know, because we had a good push. You imagine
the divo that would create. That would be.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Great Geans territories with us. One last one from the
Seahawks game, there was a false start against our tight
end Aj Barner near the end of the first quarter
and people are still asking me about it on social
media and wanting me to ask you about it. Uh,
it just looked like a normal shift. We got flagged
with a false start.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
Why head scratcher, look like a normal shift to meet?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Now? When they do, you know, when they do move
like that.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
If a player, even though there are just shifting, what
happened to shift in a little more rough fashion.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Than what you would think would be normal, then.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
You can always go on the box that they simulated
a snap or there was a simulation in there that
felt normal to me. You know, I kind of replayed
it four or times in real speed just to get
the essence of it so that I could at least
speak as honestly as I can. Just looks like a
normal step back, step off to my on and my
off and let's play football in a reaction by the
(15:24):
largest scrimmage official that I think they may want to
have back after looking at it.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Geene stertur with us right here on, Chuck and Buck.
There was a driving rainstorm Saturday in the Buccaneers Panthers game,
and I think the only thing that was falling on
the ground harder were booze from Panthers fans about the officiating.
They won the award for most complaints about the officiating
over the weekend Panthers fans. There were several plays that
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were brought into question. I think the one that bothered
Panther fans the most was an offensive pass interference against
tedaroa McMillan star wide receiver, where he did certainly make
contact with the defensive back, but I think a lot
of people thought that was just a wide receiver move.
So what was your take on that play and any
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others that you would want to weigh in on?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, as quick as I could do it for you, Chuck.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Yeah, I think some of that feverish stitch may have been,
you know, kind of initiated by the by the comments
from the from the color analysts. Quite honestly, to me,
that's OPI. That's just a file.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Sorry. Listen for offensive pass and appearance once.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
You get beyond one yard in the NFL, uh and
before the ball is even thrown or anything of that nature.
Displacing a defensive back like you see him do there,
that's not hands fighting. He's displacing the defensive back and
taking him a step away from a play.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
That's that's just a big file to me.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Now those that say, yeah, but why did the official
weight to throw the flag?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
The flight comes too late.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
I mean it looks like he thought about it and
then decided to stick it up Caroline, as you know
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
You can't throw.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Offensive passive deference until there's a pass. So when you
see that action happen and that receiver throws that player
not a hold just to throw away, kind of block
him away or discard him.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
You're watching now.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
And when that football leaves the quarterbacks fan, provided it's
a forward pass and not a backward pass the moment
it leaves his hand, then the flag goes down for
offensive passive appearence because the offensive restriction occurs when the
player's one yard beyond the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I thought that was a layup to me.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Then they were a little upset, if I remember correctly.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
On a they said it was.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Fat entanglement and didn't think it was defensive passive afference
because they thought their feet were tagled. Yes, their feet
were tangled, but the defensive back was severely out of
position and trying to close on a receiver who beat
him egregiously. He never turns his head around to say,
I'm playing the football and now our feet get tangled
because we're both trying to adjust to the ball. He's
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just chasing someone because he got beat. When you're chasing
someone like that, your feet get tied when it's a
foul because you're just trying to close the gap and
now you flipped me without adjusting to a football because
you don't know what the ball is. Foul there as well.
The one I think Carolina has a gripe with when
a player is holding someone else's helmet at the end
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of the play and it doesn't match.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
The rest of your uniform. That usually is one that
pana you know get you you.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Know, going a little bit I remember my older brother
Tony was on my crew and in the late Sarah
Gusa Baltimore had that situation occurr and my brother was
maybe in his fourth or fifth year, and he throws
the flag and Sarah Gusa turns around and starts yelling
at him, and you know, what are you doing? And
he goes, take a look at your right hand, and
Sarah goose To looked down. It was a Cleveland brown helmet.
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He goes, it's not matching your uniform, but.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
You know, I think you're in trouble here, and.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
And Goots, being the great guy that he was, he
kind of tried to drop the helmet real quick, but
he realized it was a foul, So that one I
got to give to to the Carolina fans. The other two,
quite honestly, I just thought those were appreciated plays. And
I think sometimes when we as analysts go into that
rabbit hole and start to say a little more than
maybe the situation, you know, dictates, you can create a
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more feverish fitch. And I think that may have been
the case of these two.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Fair fair Maybe everybody was just tired of being soggy
that day, all right, last one I gotta ask you
about the end of the old Miss Georgia game. And look,
I realized, letter of the law, there was still a
second on the clock in that crazy situation where there
was a safety. But would you have just said, hey,
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let's just expire this thing, or would you have been
the official that allows the halftime stage to be brought
out in the middle of the field twice twice gem
and then had it cleared off along with all the
fans and confetti and there was ice on the field.
Would you have just gathered with everybody and said, I
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don't know about you, but my watch says the game
is over. What would you have done in that situation?
Speaker 8 (20:02):
Man?
Speaker 5 (20:02):
That's again, this is this whole replay fraction of a
secondence of a second thing that the box were in.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, I would have done exactly what you said.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
And by rule, even though the receiving team doesn't touch
that onside kick and the kicking team recovers their own
onside kick, legally, by rule, an entire second doesn't have
to expire.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
It could be a fraction. Right now. In the old days, before.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
We got into this micro managing, our kind of rule
on the field was look at one second's going to
come off the clock. We've got to see it change
because we did have something occur here and even though
the kicking team can advance it and yes, it's dead immediately,
well we have to start the play to stop the play.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
So we used to be able to say, you know, it's.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
A one now in this day of hence, you kind
of get in that moment and then, as you said,
an awful lot.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Of hard work for the ground crew. Man.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
You want to talk about people like raking the sand
on the field, imagine that grounds through looking at everybody going,
wait about what? You can't bring the confetti back into
the ceiling here?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
You know, it was kind of a.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Premature, you know what I mean? My goodness, Graces, the
party's over, you know, let's all have a cigar.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
So yeah, I would have liked to see that done.
Old school.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
That was a mess. All right, Jane, where are you
going to be this weekend?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Jacksonville, Florida.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
We've got the Buffalo Bills at the Jacks excited now
because you all know and listen the way we're playing
the Seattle. What a great situation to be in. You
talk about the advantages of home field what crowds can do,
what fans can do. It's a huge That's what made
the game us We really so huge, and Kyle Shanahan
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knew that instead of Seattle.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
So just kudos to.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
The fan base, to the team, and now from an
officiating window and everybody else.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
This is when it gets really fun, guys, you know.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
I mean, this is when this thing cranks up another
notch and it's just exciting times. And for me personally,
I get the luxury to be with Kim and Tony
and Tracy on location for the next three weeks, so
I get to feel that stadium vibe again right in
the tailgates and the colisseums are loaded with angry people
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and excited people, and it's all about to happen. It's
a great month, a great time in an unbelievable week.
This week for football lovers, what from Thursday until sometime
at midnight or one in the morning on early Tuesday
morning for East Coasters, just the Smorgsborg of great football
here coming up.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
So doesn't get better than this, guys.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah, And for what it's worth, I think you've got
the most interesting game of the entire weekend, So enjoy it.
And we'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
You've got it, fellas, have a great week.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
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Speaker 8 (23:34):
Listen you you've got a fourth line and you've got.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
A bunch of kids who.
Speaker 8 (23:41):
I mean it sounds very cliche, but they play the
game the right way, and it's almost as if they
each have something to.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Prove the way that they're playing.
Speaker 8 (23:51):
They're playing like they could be taken out of the
lineup at any given time, and it's it's been real
refreshing seat. I've been watching and reading a lot of
stuff from the national experts, if you will, about Jacob
Allanson and how he's really helped set the tone for
this team. He had four hits the other night. He's
what eleven games, ten games in to the season, and
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he already has fifty some odd hits. I mean, that
is absolutely bonkers. And he gets his first goal last night.
He has a couple of really strong chances as well.
I mean, he probably could have four or five goals
by now. Remember he scored fifty at the junior level,
not five years ago. So Jacob Malanson is a player
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that when you're looking for an identity, he is the
type of player that you want other guys to model
their game after, especially a team like this.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
Okay, well, I mean, just real quick on kind of
a subtle note, then, I mean, is that a guy
maybe I should pick up for my fantasy hockey team
that I got Jacob Molons.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Depending on what that's you keep.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
I mean, if it's Stator League. Okay, offensively again, you know,
I mean, he's not going to be throwing up Matt
Evanier's numbers. Maybe I don't know, but I mean, if
you're if you're looking, if you've got more of a
a physical league.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
If you have more of a underlying.
Speaker 8 (25:22):
Metrics league than I would, I would pick up Jacob
Allotson for sure.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Okay, I'll tell you what though, Speaking of passes and
assists and the kids, that pass from Myers to right
last night was one of the best passes I can
remember watching hockey.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
That was I mean, that was this pure skill play.
Speaker 8 (25:41):
And and when you when you talk about a guy
like Shane Wright or Matty Benier's or Berkeley Catton, you know,
the young centers on this team, the guys that you're
hopefully in the next two to three years going to
fully turn the keys to the car over to I mean,
those are the type of plays that you want to
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see when when you're looking at other teams in the
league who are in first place, perennial playoff teams, we
talk about how the Kraken those are the superstar They
don't have this, they don't have that. That's a superstar play, right.
Those are the plays that McKinnon and McDavid and Tobrinkett
and Kit Chuck and Robertson. Those are the plays that
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we're talking about that you make in tight. These are
the guys that SKay late after practice every single day.
They're working with Jess Campbell on extra skill work as well.
I mean, it really just goes to show you the
commitment that the younger players on this team, the Coachella
Valley kids and the guys who who are our Prize
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are primed.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Employees for a long career in this league.
Speaker 8 (26:50):
That's the work they're putting in so they can do
stuff like that in real time.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
I mean, we're watching it feels like just last week
when we were talking that this team was down here
at the bottom of the standings.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I think at one point it doesn't feel like last week.
It was last weekend.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Okay, then I'm yeah, I wasn't far off or I
was right on with that, But now they're a point
out of first place. I mean, is this a normal
type of a turnaround or is this something that you're
that you're witnessing that is even kind of maybe closer
to of historic as far as the way in which
the team's playing compared to where they were.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
You know, I wouldn't say it's normal. This season isn't normal.
Speaker 8 (27:27):
You're you're in a condensed schedule because of the Olympics.
I mean, the Kraken tonight will wrap up their fourth
consecutive set of.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Back to back games.
Speaker 8 (27:37):
Each of their last after tonight, each of their previous
eight games will have been in back to back situation,
which I've never heard of. The crack and play every
other day, literally every other day for the rest of
the month. They don't have two more days off until
I think it's January thirty first and February first, the
first and the second, something like that. So this season
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isn't normal. And if you look at the Western Conference,
it is so stacked up. Even the last place in
the West is only five points back of the final
playoff spot. You go out East, the Seattle Kraken would
still be in a tie for second to last in
the conference, five points back of a playoff spot out East.
So I do think that what the Kraken have been
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able to do, given their situation, given the place that
they're in, is definitely historic. You're now on your third,
uh your third ever eight game point streaking franchise, So
I mean they're they're they're finding ways to win games.
If you look at the last eight games, they've scored
three or four goals in seven of those eight games.
(28:44):
They've allowed one or two goals in seven of those
eight games. So it's the system they're finally finding out
and figuring out how to to turn some of these
bad losses into wins and and history or might be
a little bit early, however, I do think that they're
on that path of this is going to be a
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team that if they keep playing this way, which all
sides point to them being able to, they're gonna go
into the Olympic Break in a pretty good spot.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah, and back to back again tonight as they play
trying right back around face the Bruins tonight. That's three
in the last fifteen days. I mean, is I take
it every one in the National Hockey League's playing a
schedule like this?
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Yeah, they are.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
And again it all goes back to the Olympic break
because the NHL wants to get all eighty two games
in the same window. I mean, you're day one was
October what fifteenth? And then right now, I think Game
seven of the Cup Final projects to be around June
twenty fifth around there. So they're still trying to fit
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all of these games into the same window because you've
got three weeks off. So everyone's playing a schedule like this,
everyone's injured, everyone's getting hurt. You're hoping the Olympics don't
compound that at all. Luckily for Seattle, there's only three
regulars going to the Olympics, with Grubauer for Germany, Tolvenen
and Coppo Cocko for Finland. But so the Krakens should
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come out of that break in a relatively good spot.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yeah, yeah, I was just yeah, that makes total mathematical sense.
I was just speaking, are they just are they having
as many of these back to back games as what
I mean a year ago. If you had told me
they were going to have to play three back to
back games in fifteen days, I'm like, well, that's three wins, max,
if that's going to happen. But it's been a little
different this year. All right, So Bruins tonight, I mean,
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classic organization, classic uniform, and a similar record to Seattle
right now, So what can we expect this evening? Give
me a breakdown.
Speaker 8 (30:47):
I think a very similar game to the Kraken honestly.
I mean they're they're a little bit more offensive than
Seattle with David Pasherock and Morgan Geek, which.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
By the way, yeah, how did he turn into a star?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Oh my goodness?
Speaker 8 (31:01):
He led the NHL in goals in the calendar year
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
He had fifty goals in the year twenty twenty five.
Speaker 8 (31:09):
So and he doesn't show any signs of slowing down,
although he only has got four goals in his last
thirteen twelve thirteen games coming into tonight, so maybe he's cooled.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Off a little bit. But you're gonna get a very
hard working team.
Speaker 8 (31:22):
Markle Sturm, the coach over there, he is a coach
who wants his teams to work hard, not unlike Layane Lambert.
So tonight, with the Kraken coming off of the back
to back, Joey decort is gonna have to be strong.
Blayne Lambert has said multiple times this season, our goaltending
has to be our best player. Joey's gonna have to
be that here tonight. But I have a feeling this
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is gonna be another you know, I say classic. It's
only been forty games in the season, but this is
gonna be another I think classic kracking game, a nice
tight two to one, three to one defensive game. But
I mean, as long as you're putting up points, as
long as you're still winning, I don't care if it's
won nothing.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
You know that that's what's important.
Speaker 8 (32:01):
So if they can continue what's made them successful. They've
won two of their last three game twos of back
to backs. They've got points in three straight game twos
of back to back, So I mean an opportunity for
them to do something that they haven't done since year
three of this organization.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
And that's when three games on a back.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
To back in a row.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
All right, well close with this. What is the broadcast schedule?
Are you radio or TV? What's going on? What is
happening tonight?
Speaker 4 (32:25):
I am telling I am radio tonight.
Speaker 8 (32:28):
I've got I do when John is on national duties,
when we are on the road, I do the road game.
So I've got Monday in New York. I've gotten next
Wednesday in Jersey on television, and then i have February fourth,
which is a Wednesday in LA and then I have
April sixth, I believe, which is in Winnipeg. So as
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of now, I got four more TV games the rest
of the year, so I will not I won't stray
too far from home.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
I promise.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
All right, Thank you sir. We appreciate great to hear
from your happy new year, and we'll be listening tonight.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Fellas Ashley, Happy new year. Enjoyed the bye week?
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yeah, thank you very much and sorry sorry about them.
You know what's happened up there in Detroit? You know
we we love you up there in Detroit.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
What do you mean the Pistons are crushing it me?
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
The number one team, greats are killing it.
Speaker 8 (33:20):
Why you're apologizing for the first place NBA team?
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Thank you very much for yes. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I get a freaking f for that comment.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
Red Wing Journey first.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Red Wing Jerns first. Yea, Tigers are projecting to be
well this year. That's all that. That's all that there is.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
You're right, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 8 (33:38):
Michigan's got a new head coach, the football team, everything,
Michigan basketball is number two.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Why don't you apologizing? It's pretty good over in the
Minton right now. Nothing nothing else is going on. Man.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
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as well. Of course, we do have an extra week,
you know, or in the buy and all of that
with breaking down the Seahawks before we actually will even
know an opponent. Can't even break down an opponent yet
because we won the buy. I don't know if you.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Heard, I did hear?
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yeah, we don't even play this weekend, so yeah, yeah,
I mean maybe you'd get a jump start on breaking
down your opponent. But you know, we got that buy
go buy and all that.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
Yeah, God of accomplished that, a breakdown all four of them.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
That it could be possibly.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
We got time to do that. I suppose we could
get into that. But you know when you got to buy,
yeah you just chill. Yeah, you just got idle time.
So but we will certainly be fixated on the Seahawks
here for the next let's say month on the radio program.
And and so is America all of a sudden, and
they just can't let go of this Sam Darnold concern.
(35:51):
I just saw another one prominent talking show talking head
shows some person under the most pressure in the playoffs,
Sam Donald, Sam Donald, Hey, Josh Allen, I mean, how
about how about how about that Sam Darnald has played
one playoff game because he got off to a rough
(36:14):
start in his career. He was not good at the
beginning of his career, but in the last two years
he's won twenty eight regular season games, has one playoff game,
plays bad, and he has been labeled a postseason choker.
I don't know. I for his sake, not even for mine,
not even for the listener's sake, not even for Seattle's sake.
I owe for Sam Donald's sake. Man, he shuts some
(36:36):
fools up here in the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
I don't know for sure if those that need to
be shut up will shut up unless he wins a
Super Bowl, right, I mean, I think there's some people
that are just gonna be stuck on it. I mean,
I think there's there's plenty of really good quarterbacks that
didn't win a Super Bowl. There's plenty of them. I mean,
Peyton Manning, John Elway. There's a bunch of them that
were a Hall of famers that scuffled a little bit
(37:02):
in their first couple of times in the postseason.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Well what Matt Stafford, what did he thirty five when
he finally won?
Speaker 7 (37:08):
Yeah, the Super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (37:09):
And yet I mean it just seems odd.
Speaker 6 (37:11):
I mean I get that you you only have one
chance to make a first impression, and yet if you
get drafted by the Jets, then good luck because you're
gonna need a second chance. And and you know, it
just is what it is. There's a there's a growth.
I mean, I get his fans were impatient. If your
team drafts you and expects you to come in and
be the next franchise quarterback and you struggle, then you're
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going to be disappointed. That said, before Sam Darnold came here,
he had obviously figured some things out. He had obviously
rebounded from what was his first taste of the NFL.
And even though yeah, he ended up having a bad
game in the playoffs last year and even a bad
game in that that that final regular season game that
(37:55):
that cost him the first round by or or a
chance at that, they I think that it's just.
Speaker 7 (38:02):
What he's done here this season. Yeah, he had a
bad game.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
He had maybe a bad game and a half where
he turned the ball over too much and it costs
you a w and puts you to some degree behind
the eight ball.
Speaker 7 (38:13):
But it's kind of like a oh.
Speaker 6 (38:15):
Man cal Rowly, you know, he would zero for four
or three strikeouts and left eight guys on base. That
guy is trash. Well, that's just dumb. It's one game
out of one sixty two. One game out of seventeen
games does not season make And obviously at the end
of it, you end up going fourteen and three. You
win the toughest division of football. You're a legitimate pro bowler.
I don't give Pro Bowl nods to everybody because if
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you're the alternate alternate that gets into it.
Speaker 7 (38:41):
You're not really a pro bowler.
Speaker 6 (38:42):
Right the Pro bowlers are in the post, they're in
the playoffs, and you just got it because no one
else wanted to go or could go. So but he's
a legitimate number two. He's got the third best offense.
He also, at times throughout the course of this win streak,
they've been on to finish and win the number and
seed has played the game based on how the game
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is going. Hence, if the defense isn't giving up a lot,
then maybe you're not taking as many shots downfield so
that you aren't turning the ball over.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Whatever it might be.
Speaker 6 (39:11):
To me, it's just it's silly to not be able
to just watch what the guy's doing. It not in
just a microscope of one play and then hang on
to that when there was fifty other plays that he
made that game that were not bad, and some of
them were great. I think it's just I think it's
low hanging fruit and a lot of people can't wait
to jump on it.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Well, I mean, how many guys have even won a
Super Bowl? The quarterback that are in the National Football
League right now? I mean Mahomes, Rogers, Stafford and Hurts. Yeah,
I think that's it. So is everybody else in the
league just a choker? I mean, he's played. Some people
would say he started in one playoff game. That's the
part that bothers me. And he played terrible. Yeah, nobody's
(39:50):
getting around that. Nobody said he was. He's been a
terrible court He was a terrible quarterback when he came
in the league, but also he was in a terrible situation.
Matt Stafford was outstanding. Matt staff It's been outstanding since
he came into the league. But he wasn't a champion
until he got to the right circumstance and the right
coaching staff around the right kind of talent. Maybe Sam
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Darnold's finally around the right coaching staff with the right
kind of talent and has learned a few things and
has grown a little bit, And maybe we shouldn't just
judge him off of one bad postseason game. I would
imagine if you look back through history, a lot of
guys played poorly in their first postseason game. Yeah, and that,
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But that's the thing that bothers me is then everyone's saying, oh, well, look,
I mean he chokes in the playoffs. You can't say
that in one game. No, you just can't.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
No.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
No, So anyway, I mean, yes, does he have proving
to do. Yes, so does everybody else in this postseason,
with the exception of maybe Hurts and Rogers, but even
Rodgers has some proving to do based off to prove he.
Speaker 7 (40:54):
Still has it.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
Yeah, it Hurts has to prove that what you've seen
out of that defending championship season this year is just
a mirage that they will rebound and look like the
championship caliber guys. That everybody has something to prove to
every week that you go out there. And so it's
not like you can't criticize him, It's just be realistic.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
He's fourteen and three and he's not going to be
overwhelmed by the moment. If there's anything about Sam that
you've noticed that, and it's a positive and a negative,
he comes back the very next play, doesn't matter if
he fumbled her through and just wings it. Now, that
might work to his detriment at times, but there's no
way that he's succumbing to pressure. That's just not the
(41:33):
way he's built. No, I mean, that is certainly one
thing about him that has been quite evident. He can
make a terrible play, just like all quarterbacks make a
terrible play on an occasion, and he comes back the
right next time and throws an even more risky put
pass the next time because he's just not He's just
not wired that way. So I'm glad we got him
(41:54):
at quarterback. I'm not worried about it, and can't wait
to get this thing going in a couple of weeks.
But of course I don't know. You're we gotta buy
Rick new Eyes that will join us. Next we'll talk
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Sterotur is with us. Happy New Year, sir.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Oh, happy near you're Tucking Buck. It's great to hear.
Provy fellows.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Did you ring in the New year at any Did
you do anything special?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
You know?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
We did.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
We taught him my lovely wife and I did travel
to Kansas City to visit one of the children.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And that's right. I really.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Even more importly, we built a bunch of you know,
blankets over the chair forts with the little grandkids, and
I spent forty eight hours on the floor. You know,
my back is letting me know that I did it.
But it was, uh, it was worth every second of it.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Do kids just naturally pick up on the fort building
aspect or did you have to teach them that you
can build a fort out of couch cushions?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
You know.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
I think, you know, in this day and age, because
everything is like so prepped, you know, and they get
on Amazon you can buy this like be configured fort.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I think when you go old school with them, the uh.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
The light bulb kind of goes off, like, man, I
didn't realize all this stuff that's been around me every
day we actually can do something with, you know. So
one thing I could say for my son and my
daughter in law, they're very creative and they do go
old school a bunch. And and the kids were the
fort was amazing. We like the three or four room fort.
We were you know, we were just killing it this week,
(01:50):
you know, and it was you know, I was the
monster for thirty seconds and then it was half tears
and then papped, Hope be the monster and then back
to the monster.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Was Well, I love that there's not couch fort building
the video game, or that you know, your your children
have a robot building the forts for their children. Yeah,
that's great. Some old school things staying alive. All right, Well,
(02:22):
let's dive into a few things. Seahawks played a pretty
big game against the San Francisco forty nine ers on
Saturday night. I don't know if you heard, but we
won and so, but there are a lot of things
in there that that can be discussed. I'll go ahead
and start with this play. Juwan Jennings seemed to be
very frustrated from the San Francisco forty nine ers all
(02:45):
night long. I mean, obviously they weren't having much success,
but he seemed frustrated and on the verge of wanting
to fight on several different plays. And he actually did
start one out of bounds with Devin Witherspoon, one of
the seahawks best defenders, and they were officials standing right
there looking at it. Why would there be no flag
(03:07):
with that much activity taking place that far out of bounds?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Gene, Yeah, you know that would chuck.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
I thought at the end of the play, you kind
of got to throw a flag on the play, right,
I know. It was on the opposite side of the
field where the end of the play happened.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Two players are.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Kind of engaged and kind of going at each other
away from the play, and the actual contact is on
the field of play as they start riding each other,
you know, out of bounds. By rule though that's fine
up until a point, but once we get into white
and we're out of bounds, now you've got to kind
(03:44):
of disengage, right. Our mantra was always once there are
four seat in the white, meaning both players that are
engaged are now out of bounds, the activity needs to
stop at that point, and as you said, at the
genders kind of took that in a little bit further
and wanted to finish whe us right out of bounds.
So at that point, I think that's when you go
(04:05):
from trying to manage a game or a situation to hey, listen,
I've been here blowing my whistle.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
You guys knew I was next to you, but.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
You just couldn't resist right like, you had to finish it.
So for that reason, you know, we're going to fill fifteen.
And I think in that case that's kind of where
my thought was on it, and I thought that's really
how they should have handled it.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Well.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
Usually when it happens, though, Gene, usually what because I
mean at the end, Devin Witherspoon gets up.
Speaker 7 (04:31):
And I think that Jennings was still down on the ground.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
He was in the process of getting up and then
he puts his hands up like, hey, I wasn't the one.
Speaker 7 (04:37):
It wasn't me, even though there was a little bit
of bolt.
Speaker 6 (04:41):
So is that really one where more often than not
you end up throwing the flag and then you go
offsetting penalties or an sportsmanker, unnecessary roughness whatever on both teams.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
Shame on you don't do it again, nothing happens.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Yeah, you know what, Bucky. I mean, that's a great
point in part of the NFL philocity. See, and I know,
at least the years I was there, we always really
stress to try to get the first one right because
if we're just offsetting this thing, then.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Really, what are we gaining.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
There's no harm, no situation here, So there is there
a deterrent now to offset, so you want to get
the instigator. Many times you miss that, and I think
in this case, you know, maybe if because it's a
physicality thing and not a taunt. See with a taunt
in the NFL. Okay, look, we can slight both of
you for tawning, and we put you both on alert
(05:32):
because now you both have one tawning file against you,
meaning that if you have another one today it's going
to lead to your dismissal from the game. Now you
have a deter element in there that, yeah, let's flag
everybody involved and put them all on blast because now
they're one step away. And now it becomes I think
more productive type of a file. But with physical plays,
(05:53):
they don't really put that extra level in, right, So
that's something I think competition Committee to talk about, where
you know, even though it's a physical situation and unnecessary
roughness as opposed to what sportsmanlike in certain situations, let's
go ahead and apply this unnecessary roughness file and add
to it that in the event that there's an unsportsmanlike
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or another unnecessary rough dis play that falls in this category,
we can eject you. Then I think filing, you know,
flagging everyone is a better you know, kind of a
better practice.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Well, I kind of like the idea as I'm listening
to the two of you talk, all right, so you
you know, we can't expect you to see how it
all starts, even though that's the person that should get
the fifteen yard penalty, but you can see like the
guy that reacts the worst afterwards, like you could give
offsetting fifteen yard personal foul penalties, but then fifteen yards
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unsportsmanlike for whining against Juwan Jennings or playing the victim,
and then you still get to hit him with the
fifteen yards in the aftermath following me there.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
You know, I think there's someone with the last name
hockey Lely somewhere that really is excited about that, because
imagine that announcement too, right, I mean this is a
long one, so you know, everybody kind of sit back, relax,
and then let me get.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Through this whole thing. You know, Yeah, I like it.
I like it.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Jean's territorres with Us a segment every week, brought to
you by BMW Seattle. There was also a play rock
party steps out of bounds. It looked like he was
two yard shy. They marked him one yard shy. Then
I still to this day don't know what happened. Mike
McDonald was his challenge flag comes out of his pocket.
(07:39):
I guess he didn't throw it, and then he ends
up having to call him time out. I don't know
if he wasn't granted. I don't know if he's not
allowed to be granted, But it just seemed like a
really strange sequence. Do you have any way of explaining
what went down there?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (07:54):
This is good take, ye know, a little bit confusing, reactionary.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I think by the coach that's it.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
I would say that dropping the flag or anadvertent after review,
I might have to say, you know, that might be overturned.
I think he threw the flag, you know, I mean
he but I think his reaction was he felt like
the spot of the play was egregiously missed. As you said, right,
it's not fourth and one instead of fourth and two,
which is a huge difference, especially in the Tush push era.
(08:22):
I think the extra yard means something. By rule, you
can't challenge just where you think that they missed the spot.
You have to challenge a play in relation to the
line the game, or to a touchdown or something to
that effect. You just can't throw a challenge flag and say,
I think you guys missed the spot by two yards
if it doesn't have a first down involved or something
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like that. In this case, Seattle is still right. San
Francisco's still short of the line the game. Now, if
he plays a little word solid and kind of plays
lou pole, he throws the flag and says, I want
to challenge the ruling as it relates to a first down,
and then they go look at the review and go,
you know what, what do you think that he get
the first down? I mean, why a you're challenging it
because you marked the short be unique to see a
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defensive coach challenge a play saying, hey, I think it's
the first down. But once they get into review, and
if they can legally get in right by the rules,
now they can adjust the spot of the football. So
I think, what we you know, so there's a kind
of just loopage, right, I mean, as it relates to
the procedure, And then we can all ask this too
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in situations like that with this new toy we have
and use more frequently than we ever have before with
replay assists, you see an egregiously or ronossly misspot on
a play with a pending fourth down, which is in
a huge situation, why does it replay assist just come
down and move the football backyard because it was a
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pretty clean you know, we saw the foot You gotta
just all you have to do now a stitch whereas
the football and the footage the white and put the
football there and fix this. Uh, But then when you
have that flag that is thrown and now which calls
time out, it's kind of a double whammy because really,
if you think that he really intentionally throws the flag
and then has a reaction following that flag, which he
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can't grow there, and then he calls the time out
by rule, the truth of it is, you charge him.
What's the time out he called? He now has thrown
a flag that is on a play that isn't challengeable,
which he stopped the game by if you say it
that way and you charge him.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Another time out, you know.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
So there was a lot of levels there and officials
like to not get to that place so saying that
the flag fell out of his hand, saying that he
kind of misinterpreted what we could what could be challenged.
And I went over there and corrected it real quick,
and let's just put it away and I can give
you a kind of a do over there.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
You know.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
You try to stay away from that, right, And I
think that's kind of where we probably ended at the
end of the day with it.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
But there were a lot of layers there.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Yeah, Gene, I'm gonna ask one more just on kind
of the spotty because to me, I don't get all
that frustrated with calls. I feel like there's you know,
it's not an easy thing to do with you guys,
referees even baseball umpires do and yet it's twenty twenty six.
To me, it feels like there should be some sort
of way of having micro chips on the tips of
the ball and around the center of it, some do
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where you actually can use technology to know exactly where
the ball was, like where the forward progress stopped, and
then you'd have to sync that up to okay, well
when was the knee down? And that to me seems
like you could use technology to do it because there's
so many times where you see the two linesmen coming
in and one is a foot off of where the
other one is or a yard off of where the
(11:36):
other one is, and that can be the difference between
winning and losing a game. Would you be in for
instituting technology in the ball to kind of help you
guys or help the spots of the ball.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Oh yeah, I think one hundred, Bucky, and I think
you hit it. I mean where it becomes really difficult
is and we've seen these many times too, right, and
that is when is the body part down with the
player down by contact by rule, and then let's look
to see where the ball is at that moment as well. Right,
So the chip in the ball is great if a
player is airborne and diving for the goal line, and
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we could have a freeze frame there because the breaking
of the plane and the chip could put a sensor off.
When we have these plays in these massive bodies and
now we just see like the right shin once the
ankle rolls does go down. Okay, where's that football at
that point?
Speaker 2 (12:26):
You know? How do we get that indicator? Like, how
does you know? Unless we just censored up.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Maybe we just put little mini sensors on every part
of every player's body that would put him down by
contact and the moment that that body part hits it
triggers the ball, you know, or something like that, which
would be a lot of sensors. I think it'd be
a lot of little little dots on your body. But
I think that's where they're running into that piece of
this where they can't just do exactly what he said,
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because we do know and again, as you said, Bunky,
like two feet in this game would be the difference
of a possession which we all know or just so important, right,
so we want to get that thing right. And I
know when I worked at the line of scrimmage officials
in the NFL in the old days when we didn't
have even replay assists, they wore their ability to spot
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footballs and be able to know when that body part
went down and where that ball was. That was like
their badge of arnor right. Like they really were detailed
personally with it. They were also challenged to have to
get them right without anybody helping either.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
So I think their level of.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Awareness on really focusing there and knowing there's no safety
that might be or have been at a higher level
than maybe we are today when he replay can fix it,
you know, so just get in the neighborhood and then
replay can fix it. So but it is something you'd
love to see technology fix because we want to get
those right by the interest.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
So you couldn't do like they do in long jump
and just have like a thin layer of sand over
the field and you see where the intention of the
ball is and then you just then you just rake
over it every between every play.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
What do you think it's great? Something else that just
starts to float with the game.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Hold on a minute, there's a lot of you managed
to slid across the sand. There'd be like nine guys
out there in a bunker trying to get it all level.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
You know, because we had a good push. You imagine
the divo that would create. That would be.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Great Geans territories with us. One last one from the
Seahawks game, there was a false start against our tight
end Aj Barner near the end of the first quarter
and people are still asking me about it on social
media and wanting me to ask you about it. Uh,
it just looked like a normal shift. We got flagged
with a false start.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
Why head scratcher, look like a normal shift to meet?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Now? When they do, you know, when they do move
like that.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
If a player, even though there are just shifting, what
happened to shift in a little more rough fashion.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Than what you would think would be normal, then.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
You can always go on the box that they simulated
a snap or there was a simulation in there that
felt normal to me. You know, I kind of replayed
it four or times in real speed just to get
the essence of it so that I could at least
speak as honestly as I can. Just looks like a
normal step back, step off to my on and my
off and let's play football in a reaction by the
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largest scrimmage official that I think they may want to
have back after looking at it.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Geene stertur with us right here on, Chuck and Buck.
There was a driving rainstorm Saturday in the Buccaneers Panthers game,
and I think the only thing that was falling on
the ground harder were booze from Panthers fans about the officiating.
They won the award for most complaints about the officiating
over the weekend Panthers fans. There were several plays that
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were brought into question. I think the one that bothered
Panther fans the most was an offensive pass interference against
tedaroa McMillan star wide receiver, where he did certainly make
contact with the defensive back, but I think a lot
of people thought that was just a wide receiver move.
So what was your take on that play and any
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others that you would want to weigh in on?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, as quick as I could do it for you, Chuck.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Yeah, I think some of that feverish stitch may have been,
you know, kind of initiated by the by the comments
from the from the color analysts. Quite honestly, to me,
that's OPI. That's just a file.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Sorry. Listen for offensive pass and appearance once.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
You get beyond one yard in the NFL, uh and
before the ball is even thrown or anything of that nature.
Displacing a defensive back like you see him do there,
that's not hands fighting. He's displacing the defensive back and
taking him a step away from a play.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
That's that's just a big file to me.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Now those that say, yeah, but why did the official
weight to throw the flag?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
The flight comes too late.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
I mean it looks like he thought about it and
then decided to stick it up Caroline, as you know
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
You can't throw.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Offensive passive deference until there's a pass. So when you
see that action happen and that receiver throws that player
not a hold just to throw away, kind of block
him away or discard him.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
You're watching now.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
And when that football leaves the quarterbacks fan, provided it's
a forward pass and not a backward pass the moment
it leaves his hand, then the flag goes down for
offensive passive appearence because the offensive restriction occurs when the
player's one yard beyond the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I thought that was a layup to me.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Then they were a little upset, if I remember correctly.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
On a they said it was.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Fat entanglement and didn't think it was defensive passive afference
because they thought their feet were tagled. Yes, their feet
were tangled, but the defensive back was severely out of
position and trying to close on a receiver who beat
him egregiously. He never turns his head around to say,
I'm playing the football and now our feet get tangled
because we're both trying to adjust to the ball. He's
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just chasing someone because he got beat. When you're chasing
someone like that, your feet get tied when it's a
foul because you're just trying to close the gap and
now you flipped me without adjusting to a football because
you don't know what the ball is. Foul there as well.
The one I think Carolina has a gripe with when
a player is holding someone else's helmet at the end
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of the play and it doesn't match.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
The rest of your uniform. That usually is one that
pana you know get you you.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Know, going a little bit I remember my older brother
Tony was on my crew and in the late Sarah
Gusa Baltimore had that situation occurr and my brother was
maybe in his fourth or fifth year, and he throws
the flag and Sarah Gusa turns around and starts yelling
at him, and you know, what are you doing? And
he goes, take a look at your right hand, and
Sarah goose To looked down. It was a Cleveland brown helmet.
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He goes, it's not matching your uniform, but.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
You know, I think you're in trouble here, and.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
And Goots, being the great guy that he was, he
kind of tried to drop the helmet real quick, but
he realized it was a foul, So that one I
got to give to to the Carolina fans. The other two,
quite honestly, I just thought those were appreciated plays. And
I think sometimes when we as analysts go into that
rabbit hole and start to say a little more than
maybe the situation, you know, dictates, you can create a
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more feverish fitch. And I think that may have been
the case of these two.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Fair fair Maybe everybody was just tired of being soggy
that day, all right, last one I gotta ask you
about the end of the old Miss Georgia game. And look,
I realized, letter of the law, there was still a
second on the clock in that crazy situation where there
was a safety. But would you have just said, hey,
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let's just expire this thing, or would you have been
the official that allows the halftime stage to be brought
out in the middle of the field twice twice gem
and then had it cleared off along with all the
fans and confetti and there was ice on the field.
Would you have just gathered with everybody and said, I
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don't know about you, but my watch says the game
is over. What would you have done in that situation?
Speaker 8 (20:02):
Man?
Speaker 5 (20:02):
That's again, this is this whole replay fraction of a
secondence of a second thing that the box were in.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, I would have done exactly what you said.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
And by rule, even though the receiving team doesn't touch
that onside kick and the kicking team recovers their own
onside kick, legally, by rule, an entire second doesn't have
to expire.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
It could be a fraction. Right now. In the old days, before.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
We got into this micro managing, our kind of rule
on the field was look at one second's going to
come off the clock. We've got to see it change
because we did have something occur here and even though
the kicking team can advance it and yes, it's dead immediately,
well we have to start the play to stop the play.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
So we used to be able to say, you know, it's.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
A one now in this day of hence, you kind
of get in that moment and then, as you said,
an awful lot.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Of hard work for the ground crew. Man.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
You want to talk about people like raking the sand
on the field, imagine that grounds through looking at everybody going,
wait about what? You can't bring the confetti back into
the ceiling here?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
You know, it was kind of a.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Premature, you know what I mean? My goodness, Graces, the
party's over, you know, let's all have a cigar.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
So yeah, I would have liked to see that done.
Old school.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
That was a mess. All right, Jane, where are you
going to be this weekend?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Jacksonville, Florida.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
We've got the Buffalo Bills at the Jacks excited now
because you all know and listen the way we're playing
the Seattle. What a great situation to be in. You
talk about the advantages of home field what crowds can do,
what fans can do. It's a huge That's what made
the game us We really so huge, and Kyle Shanahan
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knew that instead of Seattle.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
So just kudos to.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
The fan base, to the team, and now from an
officiating window and everybody else.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
This is when it gets really fun, guys, you know.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
I mean, this is when this thing cranks up another
notch and it's just exciting times. And for me personally,
I get the luxury to be with Kim and Tony
and Tracy on location for the next three weeks, so
I get to feel that stadium vibe again right in
the tailgates and the colisseums are loaded with angry people
(22:16):
and excited people, and it's all about to happen. It's
a great month, a great time in an unbelievable week.
This week for football lovers, what from Thursday until sometime
at midnight or one in the morning on early Tuesday
morning for East Coasters, just the Smorgsborg of great football
here coming up.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
So doesn't get better than this, guys.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah, And for what it's worth, I think you've got
the most interesting game of the entire weekend, So enjoy it.
And we'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
You've got it, fellas, have a great week.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
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the games for a red hot hockey team all of
a sudden. And you know what they said at the
end of Unbreakable. It was the kids. They called me
miss the glass. What's the key to the turnaround? It's
the kids. Everett fits you. It is Winterton and Myers
and Melanson. Where did this spark come from? We got
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a hot hockey team all of a sudden.
Speaker 8 (23:34):
Listen you you've got a fourth line and you've got.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
A bunch of kids who.
Speaker 8 (23:41):
I mean it sounds very cliche, but they play the
game the right way, and it's almost as if they
each have something to.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Prove the way that they're playing.
Speaker 8 (23:51):
They're playing like they could be taken out of the
lineup at any given time, and it's it's been real
refreshing seat. I've been watching and reading a lot of
stuff from the national experts, if you will, about Jacob
Allanson and how he's really helped set the tone for
this team. He had four hits the other night. He's
what eleven games, ten games in to the season, and
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he already has fifty some odd hits. I mean, that
is absolutely bonkers. And he gets his first goal last night.
He has a couple of really strong chances as well.
I mean, he probably could have four or five goals
by now. Remember he scored fifty at the junior level,
not five years ago. So Jacob Malanson is a player
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that when you're looking for an identity, he is the
type of player that you want other guys to model
their game after, especially a team like this.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
Okay, well, I mean, just real quick on kind of
a subtle note, then, I mean, is that a guy
maybe I should pick up for my fantasy hockey team
that I got Jacob Molons.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Depending on what that's you keep.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
I mean, if it's Stator League. Okay, offensively again, you know,
I mean, he's not going to be throwing up Matt
Evanier's numbers. Maybe I don't know, but I mean, if
you're if you're looking, if you've got more of a
a physical league.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
If you have more of a underlying.
Speaker 8 (25:22):
Metrics league than I would, I would pick up Jacob
Allotson for sure.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Okay, I'll tell you what though, Speaking of passes and
assists and the kids, that pass from Myers to right
last night was one of the best passes I can
remember watching hockey.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
That was I mean, that was this pure skill play.
Speaker 8 (25:41):
And and when you when you talk about a guy
like Shane Wright or Matty Benier's or Berkeley Catton, you know,
the young centers on this team, the guys that you're
hopefully in the next two to three years going to
fully turn the keys to the car over to I mean,
those are the type of plays that you want to
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see when when you're looking at other teams in the
league who are in first place, perennial playoff teams, we
talk about how the Kraken those are the superstar They
don't have this, they don't have that. That's a superstar play, right.
Those are the plays that McKinnon and McDavid and Tobrinkett
and Kit Chuck and Robertson. Those are the plays that
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we're talking about that you make in tight. These are
the guys that SKay late after practice every single day.
They're working with Jess Campbell on extra skill work as well.
I mean, it really just goes to show you the
commitment that the younger players on this team, the Coachella
Valley kids and the guys who who are our Prize
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are primed.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Employees for a long career in this league.
Speaker 8 (26:50):
That's the work they're putting in so they can do
stuff like that in real time.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
I mean, we're watching it feels like just last week
when we were talking that this team was down here
at the bottom of the standings.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I think at one point it doesn't feel like last week.
It was last weekend.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Okay, then I'm yeah, I wasn't far off or I
was right on with that, But now they're a point
out of first place. I mean, is this a normal
type of a turnaround or is this something that you're
that you're witnessing that is even kind of maybe closer
to of historic as far as the way in which
the team's playing compared to where they were.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
You know, I wouldn't say it's normal. This season isn't normal.
Speaker 8 (27:27):
You're you're in a condensed schedule because of the Olympics.
I mean, the Kraken tonight will wrap up their fourth
consecutive set of.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Back to back games.
Speaker 8 (27:37):
Each of their last after tonight, each of their previous
eight games will have been in back to back situation,
which I've never heard of. The crack and play every
other day, literally every other day for the rest of
the month. They don't have two more days off until
I think it's January thirty first and February first, the
first and the second, something like that. So this season
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isn't normal. And if you look at the Western Conference,
it is so stacked up. Even the last place in
the West is only five points back of the final
playoff spot. You go out East, the Seattle Kraken would
still be in a tie for second to last in
the conference, five points back of a playoff spot out East.
So I do think that what the Kraken have been
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able to do, given their situation, given the place that
they're in, is definitely historic. You're now on your third,
uh your third ever eight game point streaking franchise, So
I mean they're they're they're finding ways to win games.
If you look at the last eight games, they've scored
three or four goals in seven of those eight games.
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They've allowed one or two goals in seven of those
eight games. So it's the system they're finally finding out
and figuring out how to to turn some of these
bad losses into wins and and history or might be
a little bit early, however, I do think that they're
on that path of this is going to be a
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team that if they keep playing this way, which all
sides point to them being able to, they're gonna go
into the Olympic Break in a pretty good spot.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah, and back to back again tonight as they play
trying right back around face the Bruins tonight. That's three
in the last fifteen days. I mean, is I take
it every one in the National Hockey League's playing a
schedule like this?
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Yeah, they are.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
And again it all goes back to the Olympic break
because the NHL wants to get all eighty two games
in the same window. I mean, you're day one was
October what fifteenth? And then right now, I think Game
seven of the Cup Final projects to be around June
twenty fifth around there. So they're still trying to fit
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all of these games into the same window because you've
got three weeks off. So everyone's playing a schedule like this,
everyone's injured, everyone's getting hurt. You're hoping the Olympics don't
compound that at all. Luckily for Seattle, there's only three
regulars going to the Olympics, with Grubauer for Germany, Tolvenen
and Coppo Cocko for Finland. But so the Krakens should
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come out of that break in a relatively good spot.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yeah, yeah, I was just yeah, that makes total mathematical sense.
I was just speaking, are they just are they having
as many of these back to back games as what
I mean a year ago. If you had told me
they were going to have to play three back to
back games in fifteen days, I'm like, well, that's three wins, max,
if that's going to happen. But it's been a little
different this year. All right, So Bruins tonight, I mean,
(30:37):
classic organization, classic uniform, and a similar record to Seattle
right now, So what can we expect this evening? Give
me a breakdown.
Speaker 8 (30:47):
I think a very similar game to the Kraken honestly.
I mean they're they're a little bit more offensive than
Seattle with David Pasherock and Morgan Geek, which.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
By the way, yeah, how did he turn into a star?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Oh my goodness?
Speaker 8 (31:01):
He led the NHL in goals in the calendar year
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
He had fifty goals in the year twenty twenty five.
Speaker 8 (31:09):
So and he doesn't show any signs of slowing down,
although he only has got four goals in his last
thirteen twelve thirteen games coming into tonight, so maybe he's cooled.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Off a little bit. But you're gonna get a very
hard working team.
Speaker 8 (31:22):
Markle Sturm, the coach over there, he is a coach
who wants his teams to work hard, not unlike Layane Lambert.
So tonight, with the Kraken coming off of the back
to back, Joey decort is gonna have to be strong.
Blayne Lambert has said multiple times this season, our goaltending
has to be our best player. Joey's gonna have to
be that here tonight. But I have a feeling this
(31:43):
is gonna be another you know, I say classic. It's
only been forty games in the season, but this is
gonna be another I think classic kracking game, a nice
tight two to one, three to one defensive game. But
I mean, as long as you're putting up points, as
long as you're still winning, I don't care if it's
won nothing.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
You know that that's what's important.
Speaker 8 (32:01):
So if they can continue what's made them successful. They've
won two of their last three game twos of back
to backs. They've got points in three straight game twos
of back to back, So I mean an opportunity for
them to do something that they haven't done since year
three of this organization.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
And that's when three games on a back.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
To back in a row.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
All right, well close with this. What is the broadcast schedule?
Are you radio or TV? What's going on? What is
happening tonight?
Speaker 4 (32:25):
I am telling I am radio tonight.
Speaker 8 (32:28):
I've got I do when John is on national duties,
when we are on the road, I do the road game.
So I've got Monday in New York. I've gotten next
Wednesday in Jersey on television, and then i have February fourth,
which is a Wednesday in LA and then I have
April sixth, I believe, which is in Winnipeg. So as
(32:49):
of now, I got four more TV games the rest
of the year, so I will not I won't stray
too far from home.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
I promise.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
All right, Thank you sir. We appreciate great to hear
from your happy new year, and we'll be listening tonight.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Fellas Ashley, Happy new year. Enjoyed the bye week?
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yeah, thank you very much and sorry sorry about them.
You know what's happened up there in Detroit? You know
we we love you up there in Detroit.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
What do you mean the Pistons are crushing it me?
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
The number one team, greats are killing it.
Speaker 8 (33:20):
Why you're apologizing for the first place NBA team?
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Thank you very much for yes. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I get a freaking f for that comment.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
Red Wing Journey first.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Red Wing Jerns first. Yea, Tigers are projecting to be
well this year. That's all that. That's all that there is.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
You're right, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 8 (33:38):
Michigan's got a new head coach, the football team, everything,
Michigan basketball is number two.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Why don't you apologizing? It's pretty good over in the
Minton right now. Nothing nothing else is going on. Man.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
We'll talk to you next week. The amazing Everett fits
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(34:15):
a program right now here on in studio. I didn't
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as well. Of course, we do have an extra week,
you know, or in the buy and all of that
with breaking down the Seahawks before we actually will even
know an opponent. Can't even break down an opponent yet
because we won the buy. I don't know if you.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Heard, I did hear?
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yeah, we don't even play this weekend, so yeah, yeah,
I mean maybe you'd get a jump start on breaking
down your opponent. But you know, we got that buy
go buy and all that.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
Yeah, God of accomplished that, a breakdown all four of them.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
That it could be possibly.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
We got time to do that. I suppose we could
get into that. But you know when you got to buy,
yeah you just chill. Yeah, you just got idle time.
So but we will certainly be fixated on the Seahawks
here for the next let's say month on the radio program.
And and so is America all of a sudden, and
they just can't let go of this Sam Darnold concern.
(35:51):
I just saw another one prominent talking show talking head
shows some person under the most pressure in the playoffs,
Sam Donald, Sam Donald, Hey, Josh Allen, I mean, how
about how about how about that Sam Darnald has played
one playoff game because he got off to a rough
(36:14):
start in his career. He was not good at the
beginning of his career, but in the last two years
he's won twenty eight regular season games, has one playoff game,
plays bad, and he has been labeled a postseason choker.
I don't know. I for his sake, not even for mine,
not even for the listener's sake, not even for Seattle's sake.
I owe for Sam Donald's sake. Man, he shuts some
(36:36):
fools up here in the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
I don't know for sure if those that need to
be shut up will shut up unless he wins a
Super Bowl, right, I mean, I think there's some people
that are just gonna be stuck on it. I mean,
I think there's there's plenty of really good quarterbacks that
didn't win a Super Bowl. There's plenty of them. I mean,
Peyton Manning, John Elway. There's a bunch of them that
were a Hall of famers that scuffled a little bit
(37:02):
in their first couple of times in the postseason.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Well what Matt Stafford, what did he thirty five when
he finally won?
Speaker 7 (37:08):
Yeah, the Super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (37:09):
And yet I mean it just seems odd.
Speaker 6 (37:11):
I mean I get that you you only have one
chance to make a first impression, and yet if you
get drafted by the Jets, then good luck because you're
gonna need a second chance. And and you know, it
just is what it is. There's a there's a growth.
I mean, I get his fans were impatient. If your
team drafts you and expects you to come in and
be the next franchise quarterback and you struggle, then you're
(37:34):
going to be disappointed. That said, before Sam Darnold came here,
he had obviously figured some things out. He had obviously
rebounded from what was his first taste of the NFL.
And even though yeah, he ended up having a bad
game in the playoffs last year and even a bad
game in that that that final regular season game that
(37:55):
that cost him the first round by or or a
chance at that, they I think that it's just.
Speaker 7 (38:02):
What he's done here this season. Yeah, he had a
bad game.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
He had maybe a bad game and a half where
he turned the ball over too much and it costs
you a w and puts you to some degree behind
the eight ball.
Speaker 7 (38:13):
But it's kind of like a oh.
Speaker 6 (38:15):
Man cal Rowly, you know, he would zero for four
or three strikeouts and left eight guys on base. That
guy is trash. Well, that's just dumb. It's one game
out of one sixty two. One game out of seventeen
games does not season make And obviously at the end
of it, you end up going fourteen and three. You
win the toughest division of football. You're a legitimate pro bowler.
I don't give Pro Bowl nods to everybody because if
(38:38):
you're the alternate alternate that gets into it.
Speaker 7 (38:41):
You're not really a pro bowler.
Speaker 6 (38:42):
Right the Pro bowlers are in the post, they're in
the playoffs, and you just got it because no one
else wanted to go or could go. So but he's
a legitimate number two. He's got the third best offense.
He also, at times throughout the course of this win streak,
they've been on to finish and win the number and
seed has played the game based on how the game
(39:04):
is going. Hence, if the defense isn't giving up a lot,
then maybe you're not taking as many shots downfield so
that you aren't turning the ball over.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Whatever it might be.
Speaker 6 (39:11):
To me, it's just it's silly to not be able
to just watch what the guy's doing. It not in
just a microscope of one play and then hang on
to that when there was fifty other plays that he
made that game that were not bad, and some of
them were great. I think it's just I think it's
low hanging fruit and a lot of people can't wait
to jump on it.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Well, I mean, how many guys have even won a
Super Bowl? The quarterback that are in the National Football
League right now? I mean Mahomes, Rogers, Stafford and Hurts. Yeah,
I think that's it. So is everybody else in the
league just a choker? I mean, he's played. Some people
would say he started in one playoff game. That's the
part that bothers me. And he played terrible. Yeah, nobody's
(39:50):
getting around that. Nobody said he was. He's been a
terrible court He was a terrible quarterback when he came
in the league, but also he was in a terrible situation.
Matt Stafford was outstanding. Matt staff It's been outstanding since
he came into the league. But he wasn't a champion
until he got to the right circumstance and the right
coaching staff around the right kind of talent. Maybe Sam
(40:10):
Darnold's finally around the right coaching staff with the right
kind of talent and has learned a few things and
has grown a little bit, And maybe we shouldn't just
judge him off of one bad postseason game. I would
imagine if you look back through history, a lot of
guys played poorly in their first postseason game. Yeah, and that,
(40:31):
But that's the thing that bothers me is then everyone's saying, oh, well, look,
I mean he chokes in the playoffs. You can't say
that in one game. No, you just can't.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
No.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
No, So anyway, I mean, yes, does he have proving
to do. Yes, so does everybody else in this postseason,
with the exception of maybe Hurts and Rogers, but even
Rodgers has some proving to do based off to prove he.
Speaker 7 (40:54):
Still has it.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
Yeah, it Hurts has to prove that what you've seen
out of that defending championship season this year is just
a mirage that they will rebound and look like the
championship caliber guys. That everybody has something to prove to
every week that you go out there. And so it's
not like you can't criticize him, It's just be realistic.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
He's fourteen and three and he's not going to be
overwhelmed by the moment. If there's anything about Sam that
you've noticed that, and it's a positive and a negative,
he comes back the very next play, doesn't matter if
he fumbled her through and just wings it. Now, that
might work to his detriment at times, but there's no
way that he's succumbing to pressure. That's just not the
(41:33):
way he's built. No, I mean, that is certainly one
thing about him that has been quite evident. He can
make a terrible play, just like all quarterbacks make a
terrible play on an occasion, and he comes back the
right next time and throws an even more risky put
pass the next time because he's just not He's just
not wired that way. So I'm glad we got him
(41:54):
at quarterback. I'm not worried about it, and can't wait
to get this thing going in a couple of weeks.
But of course I don't know. You're we gotta buy
Rick new Eyes that will join us. Next we'll talk
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