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January 6, 2026 42 mins
RICK NEUHEISEL (CBS Sports/Dallas Renegades) - There are almost 5,000 athletes in the transfer portal- what does Coach think about that? - The CFP semifinals are all set, so we get Coach’s thoughts on both games and could the NFL come calling for Curt Cignetti? - How difficult is it for Ole Miss to navigate the coaching issues? :30- The Ol Judge is here! - The Seahawks will have to face the Rams and the 49ers in the playoffs… - If I can only watch one game this weekend it will be… - Should the Cardinals and Dolphins just trade Kyler for Tua? - Now that the Mariners have Naylor, Refsnyder & Ferrer, they just need one more bat and this offseason is done. :45- We close out the Tuesday show with one last thing!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Each time to talk all things college football.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's just like the menu at Taco Time. You just
can't get enough, you just can't get nothing.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
This is our weekly visit with Rick Neuheisel, brought to
you by Taco Time.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Nachos new Heidels used to be a moniker of mine.
I mean, just so you know.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Now on your home for college football Saturdays, here's Nacho's
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
This is college football, and I want you to get
it all over yourself.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Hi, Good morning, nine o'clock hour here on this Tuesday morning,
Ashley Ryan, Bucky Jacobson, and Chuck Powell with you. The
old Judge stops by today at nine thirty and Rick
new Isiel expected to join us here this morning, as
obvious by the intro that we just played. But we
don't have contact with him yet. You know, all those

(00:52):
new responsibilities he's got Dallas Renegade's head coach, you know,
father of the now famous Jerry High. You know, there's
just a lot still the CBS sports college football guys.
Who's got big games to prepare for. I would imagine
Rick new Eil's got a few irons in the fire.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
Right, Yeah, yeah, but I mean I don't know where
we're at. You know, he's got a full plate of things,
you know, but I don't consider us like the green
beans that are on the plate.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
You know, probably the priority.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Probably I would think at least at least like a
steak bite, you know what I mean, like something, maybe
not the whole steak. But he better show up because
I need to talk to him about coach football.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
I do too, I do too. Yeah, I think we're
the steak in the gravy.

Speaker 5 (01:35):
You think that's the way we are, Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, man, I'm gonna give us.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
I feel more like I'm mashed potatoes. But that's good,
all right?

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Joining us now is Coach new Issel. I mean, yeah,
I know you're busy these days, so you know we
appreciate you making time for us here.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
Coach.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I've got you both on my list of guys to
contact about signing with the Dallas Renegade.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
I just want you to.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Know that, Yeah, I've looked at some film and both
of you can help us. Well, I'm not going to
tell you exactly how, but I'm just going to tell
you can help us.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Last time I played football. I was a varsity one
hundred and sixty five pound tight end slash defensive end.
You got use for that?

Speaker 2 (02:17):
I do I have use for that?

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Were holding the far side.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Of the chains? Okay, actually I'm not sure we have that.
In the report, you might see the chain of.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
That lay down Chuck stretch out.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Duck says, it's the first down renegade.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
First, it's first in Chuck out here in Dallas. Well, Bucky,
Bucky's actually been training, so he might be closer to
being ready for you.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah, yeah, it was pretty broke down there, Coach. I
think I could probably just hold up a spot. I mean,
like lay down like they try to defend the tush push.
I can lay down in front of the center.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Well, you've heard.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
The term gap. You've heard the term gap control. You
just have the A gap. I won't tell you how
to do it. You just be in the A gap.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
I'll give it a shot.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Will you use the tush push now that you're back
in coaching, is that something you can't wait to unleash?

Speaker 2 (03:20):
You know, it's an I don't like to play esthetically.
It's unpleasing to me. Now I understand that if you're
really good at it that you don't want to give
it away, which the Eagles have been incredibly successful with it.
But it just doesn't feel like football. And yet that
was the beginnings of football, and I thought we remember

(03:42):
triculated away from it, so I would vote it out.

Speaker 5 (03:45):
I voted that.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
So we won't see that in the Renegades game plan.
All right, Well, let's talk a little college football. I
thought Hannah's Storm was lying to me this morning. And
I don't know why Hannah would lie to me. When
I heard her say that there are over forty eight
hundred players and the transfer portal. Right now, I'm starting
to do the math and Mike, are there even five

(04:06):
thousand players in college football? And I mean, that is
just staggering to me. So we talked about it a
little bit earlier this morning. Bucky's like, that just cannot be.
That just cannot continue your reaction to knowing that five
thousand players were not happy with the program that they
were in and can now go without penalty somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Well, I think that it's important for people to realize
that the portal is used in a variety of ways.
Certainly the most notable way and the way that we
all as fans look at it as players looking to
make more money. That players go into that deal with
an opportunity to earn more. And right now, the Arizona

(04:52):
State quarterback Sam Levitt is out there in the wilderness.
I think he's visiting LSU. I thought he visited maybe
last night. Maybe he's still on campus there today, but
he's in a catbird seat because the kid from Indiana,
Brendan Soresby, already signed with Texas Tech, who has more

(05:12):
money than God. And they so now Lane Kiffin, knowing
that Trinidad Shambliss has said he's going to stay at
Ole Miss if he gets the extra year of eligibility,
lane kiffn has to get Sam Leather. He has to
get him. So they're going to open their checkbook and
pay it. That's one type of transfer, and there's a
number of those kids out there, but not nearly as

(05:34):
many as we think. The other portion of the transfer
portal are people that are being pushed into it by
either new coaching staffs or old coaching staffs that have
deemed that that kid isn't as good as we thought
he was, and so therefore we've encouraged him to go
into the portal and find some place more suitable for him.

(05:54):
That's what happens. More often than not. Coaches are using
the portal to get rid of players that they find
unproductive so that they can go out and get hopefully
a better version of that same player. The old days
of coaching, when I was a part of this is
the adage was it's not those who you lose in

(06:14):
recruiting that gets you beat.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
It's those who you.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Get in recruiting that can't play that gets you beat.
And now because of the portal, we are pushing those
guys out of the program. And I find it kind
of distasteful because we're the ones who went in those
living rooms and said, hey, this kid's going to be
wonderful in our program, and now we're basically, four months later,

(06:37):
able to excommunicate him because he didn't turn out as
good as we thought he was. To me, there's the
problem in college athletics. We don't owe these kids anything
in our minds if they don't produce on the field.
And yet we were in there not so very long
ago promising an education and we're not delivering on that.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
I'm with you, coach. It just seems ugly. I mean,
maybe more, maybe earlier than the Toush push. Even I
don't know how long you can sustain it the way well,
I mean, we've.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Got we've we've got we've got four teams left in
the college football playoff, right. Trinidad Shambliss is the quarterback
at ole Miss. He's a transfer from farri State Division two.
That story we love, that story, we absolutely love. Then
we've got Carson Beck, That's who Ole Miss will play.
Carson Beck left Georgia for four million dollars to go

(07:27):
to Miami. That story we don't like. We don't sit
there and think that that that story. Wait a minute,
four million bucks? What are we doing here? And then
you've got the other dame. You've got Fernando Mendoza who
was going to Yale, got a late scholarship from cal
and then got to go to Indiana, which obviously is

(07:50):
doing well. And we don't mind that story. I don't
know what Fernando's making. I have no idea what Signetti
was able to offer him. We don't mind that story.
And there playing Dante More who was at UCLA and
transferred to Oregon and actually sat a year, and I
know he was handsomely compensated. To remember he was recruited
and committed to Oregon before going to UCLA for an

(08:13):
attractive offer because Kenny Dillingham had left to go be
the head coach at Arizona State. So we're okay, But
the world that we're in right now, where Soresby's going
to make five million bucks and all these guys are
out there, it's a wilderness that is so new and
so unfettered. It has to get fixed. And until we

(08:35):
fix that, we're going to be unsettled in this industry.
And I don't know if it requires a commissioner. I
don't know if it requires collective bargaining. I don't know
if it requires all of it, but I know it
requires something, because no one's sitting here loving the situation
that we're at, especially when we've got coaches coming and going,
and now we've got two guys that coached in the

(08:56):
Sugar Bowl that aren't going to coach in the Fiesta
Bowl this week with old miss because Lane Kippen needs
them to go get transfers. It just makes no sense.
We're not finishing what we start. And we think about education.
That's one of the first axioms that we think is
important in life. Finish what you start to be committed,
and we're doing anything but commitment.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
Good word, I'm with you, coach. All right, Well we
were the college playoffs. We're heading towards the semi finals.
But before we get into that, what was the biggest
takeaway or standout thing that you saw in the quarterfinals?
You know, Miami upset in Ohiose State, Oregon puts up
a goose egg against Texas Tech, and then there's the
blowout Indiana blowing out Alabama or Old Miss upset in Georgia.

Speaker 5 (09:38):
What was your biggest take away from that weekend?

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Well?

Speaker 2 (09:41):
They were all interesting and noteworthy. But Indiana's world is
an incredible world. I can't emphasize it enough. There aren't
enough exclamation points to say what Signetti has meant to
that program. Do you realize prior to that Rose bulbvicktor
over Alabama, which in and by itself a thirty five

(10:03):
to three victory over Alabama is unbelievable. If I'd have
told you two years ago Indiana will beat Alabama thirty
five to three in a Rose Bowl, you'd have had
me committed, you'd have had me committed, and yet there
it was on display. The last bowl win that Indiana
had prior to that was in the early nineties in

(10:26):
what was called the Copper Bowl. That was the last
time Indiana won a bowl game. Wow, in the early nineties,
in what was called the Copper Bowl. That's what's happened.
That's an incredible undertaking, and it's no accident. That was
a bludgeting. He's got a great offensive line, he's got
a great defensive line, but what he's really got is

(10:48):
an NFL secondary. He's got NFL wide receivers, and he's
got a quarterback who's brilliant that probably will be the
first pick in the draft. And I wouldn't be surprised
if the Raiders make a run at Signetti and say
we want Signetti and and his quarterback. I wouldn't be
surprised if that happens.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
That rumors going around a little bit out there right now.
So does Oregon fare any better in the rematch against
the Hoosiers on Friday.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
It will be a tremendous undertaking. Because you've got to
remember that Will Stein is now he just got a
quarterback at the Minshi kid, Kenny Minschie. He got him
to flip from Nebraska to Kentucky. So imagine how many
man hours in conversation hours that took to get that
done to get him to come to Kentucky. While you're

(11:40):
also getting ready to take on a defense that held
you to forty one yards in the second half when
you played the first time in Eugene. Yeah, I mean,
how do you do all that? Are the receivers good
enough to beat this NFL secondary? Are the can you
run the ball against team when they basically stopped you

(12:02):
the last time? If Oregon wins this game, it's going
to be one of the great coaching jobs in recent
memory by Dan Lanning and his staff, given the all
the other things that are on their list of things
to do. So I gotta lean. As much as I
love Dan Lanning and I love the duck story, I
gotta lean towards Indiana in that game.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
How about the Miami Ole miss How about that game?
There's a lot of intrigue around that one as well.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Obviously it's fascinating. There's an old saying about a coach
being asked who's going to win the championship. He says
I don't know who it's going to be, but I
know what they're going to look like, and they're going to.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
Look like Miami.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Miami has a defensive front four that doesn't need to
have a linebacker add to the pass rush to put
pressure on the quarterback. This Mesidor and Bane are fantastic
defensive ends. They put pressure on the A and M quarterback.
They put pressure on say in for Ohio State, and
they have been the key to this run that the

(13:05):
Hurricanes are on. And they've also realized that the games
that they lost, Carson Beck through six interceptions in those
two games, so they're not letting him throw. He only
threw for one hundred and two yards against an M
and one hundred and thirty eight against Ohio State and
they still won the game. So they're going to have
Mark Fletcher run the ball. Remember, Ole Miss is like

(13:27):
sixtieth and sixties third in the country in rush defense.
So you run the ball, you play field position, you
don't let Beck screw it up. He just plays within
himself and you win with your defense. That to me
is the equation. If Mario Christobal stays with that formula,
he'll be fine. I think despite the fun offense that

(13:49):
Tridi Dan Shambliss has run. I just think Miami's too
talented for the team, and given the ability to put
pressure on the quarterback, which Georgia was unable to do
at least consistently, I think it makes for a Miami win.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Rick new Isai with US our college football insider from
CBS Sports Course, former UDUB head coach and current Dallas
Renegade's head coach. And apparently he's got a laundry list
of defensive ends slash tight ends that are better prospects
than a fifty four year old from Seattle. Good for you,

(14:24):
I guess, good for you and your cornercker. Yeah, his
segment brought to you every week by Taco Time. As
a coach, somebody that has had to manage a roster
and a coaching staff and everything else for many, many years,
How difficult is this for ole Miss to be doing
this coaching dance with LSU getting ready for a Final
four game.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Well, I think what we have to remember and people
don't realize this, These coaching staffs have proliferated beyond belief.
This was a Nick Saban additive to the world of
college football that a lot of coaches really complaining about
but the world of analysts has gone through the roof,

(15:07):
and the NCAA tried to hold on like they always do,
but then they got the court of law and realized
they couldn't do anything about it. So it's basically broken way.
So there are assistants to assistance to assistance on these
coaching stats. And the reason that we've proliferated that way
is because we've had to create personnel departments because of

(15:28):
the transfer portal. So not only do you look at
every high school player that's coming out, you also look
at every you look at every roster across the country
in the FCS. That wonderful game last night that Montana
State won their first national title since nineteen eighty four
against Illinois State, who was playing for their first ever title.
Both of those that film will be scrutinized by every

(15:51):
coach out there to see if I want to take
one of those players and bring them to the power
for So you have to proliferate your program. So the
fact you've lost a few coaches, there are other guys
that know how to coach that position. So I don't
think it's nearly as big a deal as people are
making it out to be. Especially if Charlie Weiss Junior
is staying and going to call, the rhythm of the

(16:13):
offense will be very similar.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
And especially since I have that Chamberless kid at quarterback.
The kid's a magician.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Oh in they funded fun. It was a crime that
he wasn't in New York. It would have been a
great ability to talk about Division two and the FCS
and Division three. I mean, there's still pure college football
out there. I want the fans that missed that to
know that it's still available.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
All right, Well, let's get our Taco Time maybe picks
of the week. Who are we going to end up
in the championship? Sounds like you're leaning heavily toward Indiana
and did I pick up on Miami as well?

Speaker 2 (16:48):
You did pick up on those. I'm going to take
Indiana as my Taco Time pick because I'm pulling for
Ole Miss I really am. I want Trinidad Chambliss on
the stage because I think it's great for college football
to realize that just because you transfer doesn't mean you're
a bad guy. He's one of the great ones. And

(17:09):
I've got a fingers crossed that they get there, but
I think Miami will get him just on the prowess
of that defense. But the Taco Time pick of the
week are your Indiana Hoosiers.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Okay, all right, well, we know you are very very
busy these days with all of your jobs that you're
juggling going.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
I'm going back in the film room. I'm looking at
all these quarterbacks out there because I've got to turn
in a list of my five top quarterbacks that I
want to be renegades on Friday. So I'm scrutinizing, making
all these calls, all these coaches about their guys, and
everybody wants to talk about the portal, and it always starts,

(17:47):
you're not going to believe this.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
If we knew the stories behind the scenes like you do.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Oh man, he goes, I can't, I go I know
you're as he says, No, I want to talk to you, coach.
This will be the only five minutes where I'm not
talking about money.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
When do we find out which quarterback you so you
got to have it in on Friday? When do you
find out I.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Got to have it in on Friday? And then they
go through the list and see you if no one
else wanted those guys then their mind. If there's the deal,
then they have to come up with some waiver wire
where somebody will have first choice and second choice and
then it snakes down. But I'll find some guys that
want to play and we're going to have some fun
in Dallas.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Well that brings it full cycle then, because if that's
a hurdle, I promise you nobody else is going to
want one of us. So you could put us on
the list there that will get in your way.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
You think it's safe to say that, I'll get chucking buck.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yeah, if you put us on the list, we will
clear waivers. Yeah, you'll have us for sure.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Hey, Talladega Knights had shaken bake. I've got chucking.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
All right, Coach, Well, get back in the film room.
We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
All right, boys, I always enjoy it. Take care.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Rick new Isel is segment brought to you every week
by Taco Time joining us next on the program, and
sometimes he can be intimidating for Coach new Iel to
have to be followed up by this guest. The old
Judge will stop by next on Sports Radio ninety three
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Speaker 6 (19:20):
No I told you. I did it. That was the
last visit of the year.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah. Once she does it once a year.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
Yeah, well you could have made that a resolution. It
just shows some respect. Maybe that would have been a
good one for you.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
A lot of work. Yeah, you know that interesting you
bring that up. That was out of my four hundred
and ninety six years resolutions. That's number forty one. Show
less respect this year? Oh yeah to everyone, Well that one.
I'll tell you what. You are hitting more of these
than you're not. You know, I try to make some
reasonable that's a reasonable one, attainable one.

Speaker 5 (19:52):
You know what not everybody needs respect, including the old judge.

Speaker 6 (19:56):
I think it's awesome.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
All right, Well, the old judge is here, he's in
his courtroom, he is ready to rule. Here's how this works.
I've got a few different topics that Ashley and I
are gonna discuss, not necessarily debate, but just discuss. And
then once the old judge has heard enough yapping in
his courtroom, he slams the gavel gavel, gavel, cavel. He

(20:18):
weighs in, and whatever the judge says it goes.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
Yeah, even more. In twenty twenty six, it just came
down from on high.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Oh, you have even more authority here.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
Actually before it was just you guys just will shut
up and then whatever I say goes. Now, if you
don't shush your mouths and agree, then you can be
sent to prison.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Oh oh wow yeah man, oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
The stakes have risen a little bit, so I would say,
abide by the law.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
I got a cross off two seventy three news. You're
as a New Year's resolution.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
Don't go to prison.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
No, I try to script old judge of his power.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
Yeah, it sounds like that's backfired on I support.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
It blew up in my face.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
I wouldn't do it if I was you.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
It's got more power than ever. It sounds like, all right,
here we go. Number one, the Seahawks are going to
have to beat both the Rams and forty nine ers
again to reach the Super Bowl.

Speaker 7 (21:11):
I don't think so. I think they're gonna have to
beat one of them. I don't think that they're going
to have to beat both. I do think the Rams
will probably win this weekend, and I do think the
forty nine ers will not.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
I am with you on that. I think the forty
nine ers are out immediately. I even think Green Bay
could get Chicago. I think you won't have to face
the Rams until the Conference championship, but I still do
think you will have to go through the Rams.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
Yeah, agreed, gavel gavel gal oh, I broke some part
of my gavel paddle.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
If they get stronger on that tunnel, yeah, you believe
I did.

Speaker 6 (21:46):
I noticed those biceps were getting there.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
Very very fit. I am.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
I'm with you. I don't think you have to face both.
I think the Niners they're just they're going to run
into some trouble stopping people. And I don't know for
sure if that offense, I mean, besides Christian McCaffrey, they
don't have a ton of weapons, a hobbled kittle. I
don't know if that's going to be enough to get
through these playoffs.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
And I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
I think that Seaw's gotta win that first one. But
I have a feeling that the next best team, if
if there's somebody that's close, is the Rams.

Speaker 5 (22:17):
I think you will be facing them in the Conference.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Championshipah, is there any doubt that we're going to have
to face the Rams?

Speaker 5 (22:22):
Though it should be.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Yeah, the way the two games against them went down,
I mean a two point loss, with the four turnovers,
you're thinking very easily could have won that one. The
last one that was even more important, essentially felt like
it anyways, you come back and win that one in overtime,
it's like it feels like it's unsettled.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
It feels you know, you're one one figure out who's
the best and if it's the chance to go to
the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how to predict
anything that's going to happen in the postseason, but I
feel like that is unavoidable.

Speaker 6 (22:54):
I would like it to be avoidable, though, I to
face the Rams.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
And not just from the Rams perspective. I think the
Seahawks are unavoidable, ye to advance as far as whenever
they would meet the Los Angeles Rams. All right, next one.
If I could only watch one game this weekend in
the NFL playoffs, I mean, it's gotta be forty nine
Ers Eagles.

Speaker 7 (23:15):
Ooh, I don't think so. I don't think that would
be my most intrigued game. I am really intrigued actually
by Carolina and the Rams again, really yes, because the
Carolina found a way to beat them last time.

Speaker 6 (23:28):
I wonder if they're going to go with that similar
game plan.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
I'm planning to get drunk during that game well and
then just ride it the evening.

Speaker 7 (23:34):
There was no part I didn't. Sorry, I hold on,
let me check micro. Did I say it's gonna be sober? Well,
I was doing it. And then also that Bill's game,
the Bill's Jaguars, that's gonna be a great one.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
I think the Bills Jaguars is the best game of
the weekend. I would put Bears Packers second. I don't
even put the forty and then I probably put forty
nine Ers Eagles.

Speaker 6 (23:55):
Yeah, but it's not Yeah, it's not high on my line.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
Gavel Gavel, Gavel, Gavel, Bill's Jags, I think is the
best game of the weekend. I'm also highly intrigued to
see I mean, the Patriots just to seem to me,
I mean, I think they ended up second in the
offense as far as scoring behind the Rams, overtook the
Seahawks there in the final week. It's weird to think

(24:17):
of them as that, and yet they're legit. I mean,
fourteen to three. You don't get there by accident. The
Chargers rested some guys, and Herbert has been a guy
that's thrown four interceptions in a playoff game before.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
He's not risen to the moment.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Yet we don't hear the same rumblings about him as
you do about Sam Darnold for whatever reason. I'll be
interested to see how that matchup goes down. I'm obviously
a little bit more interested in how the AFC pans out,
and so those two games are kind of the big
ones for me. But there all of them are intriguing.
They all have their crazy storylines. Can the forty nine
ers get healthy enough, they might get some guys back

(24:52):
If they don't, seems like it's uphill sledding for them.
And yet the Eagles have found a way to lose
to far worse teams than the forty nine ers this
season so far.

Speaker 6 (25:00):
I'm most excited to watch the Seahawks game this weekend.
Oh wait, oh wait.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
We're on they played Hold on, wait they play this.

Speaker 6 (25:07):
Oh that's right, they're the number one seed.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Oh that's right.

Speaker 6 (25:10):
Oh you're you excited to watch the Broncos this weekend?

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah? Well wait, no, they don't play either. Yeow. This
show only uh supports not one seeds. Yeah, it's just
gonna be the way it's going to be this year,
gonna be a one seed at everything, or I'm not
going to do it.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
Yeah, somebody other text line. When we brought that up
earlier yesterday, they were like, oh, so you're cheering for Indiana.
Then I'm like, oh wait, no, yeah, no, no.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
All right, next one, Should the Cardinals and Dolphins just
trade Kyler for Tua?

Speaker 6 (25:50):
Oh? I think? I mean, I don't know that either
one should still be starting.

Speaker 7 (25:55):
In the NFL. Honestly, it's not making us watch. That's
what I would ask.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Well, I would say maybe, I would say yes if
I have to be definitive, and I'll tell you what,
because I mean, I heard some argument this morning about
what a great position the Dolphins are in organizationally, and
I'm like, are you out of your mind? No one's
in a worse position because if to get rid of
Tua you got to pull the Russell Wilson thing where

(26:22):
you've got to basically eat fifty million dollars for the
next couple of years. It's you don't have a high
draft pick, you don't have a great owner, you don't
have a GM in place right now. I think they
have an absolute mess there. I'm not sure you're going
to find anything better than Tua if you're trying to

(26:44):
still win next year now, And yet I understand why
you'd want to get rid of them, So why not
trade the two horrible situations that you have right now?
The money's about even fresh.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
Yeah, cavel gavel gavel I won.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
I don't want to trade ahead ache for a headache, Like, hey,
you having that medicine that just gives you a different
headache and ache? Yeah, Like I have a headache in
the front, do you have one that gives me one
in the back.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Because he's still a pretty small headache.

Speaker 6 (27:09):
Yeah, Tyler's just a little bit smaller.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
I don't know why necessarily, I Tua has the concussion
issue in the staying healthy issue. I've seen plenty of
times though out of Tua when you're like, I can
see why that guy was drafted where he was the
talent that he can bring to the table, Now, does
he really work hard? All the questions about that that's
not good and the fact that you would have to

(27:33):
pay for his salary for him to go play somewhere else.
In large part, that doesn't seem great. But on the
flip side of it, you're not getting a whole lot
different situation with Kyler. Murray maybe hasn't fully invested in
the craft and getting better at it, but he at
times shows why he was drafted where he was drafted,
that he's capable. I would believe more in Tua, and

(27:53):
I think switching that one headache for a different headache,
all you're doing is messing with the fact that at
least they know something about each other. At least you
know something about your guy. Whether or not it's all
bad or more bad than good, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
All due respect, mister Cornhold's there, They're gone. They're neither
one are staying where they are too. It is gone.
Kyler is gone. It's just do you want to eat
fifty million dollars run Quinn viewers out there and see
if you can turn you know, treasure trash into treasure

(28:28):
and get the right head coach like Denver did, get
the right system going again. Right now, they don't have
any of those pieces in place, so it's not that either.
That's a great situation for either team, But you could
trade for another quarterback that's actually had some success in
the National Football League and try to give them a
new environment, a new playground and see if it works here,

(28:51):
or you eat fifty million dollars for the next two
seasons and try to see if you can turn Quinn
Eewers into something during a rebuild. Those are your two choices.
They're not nobody's keeping either of those dudes.

Speaker 6 (29:02):
No, but they're in a great spot.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yeah, they're in a great spot. Love to have that.

Speaker 6 (29:06):
Gosh, you really jealous of that?

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Yeah, I'm glad. I'm I'm not a fan of either team.
I'll tell you that.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
All right, final one with Naylor, Ferrer and ref Snyder done,
the Mariners need just one more significant move for a
bat and I will consider this off season complete.

Speaker 7 (29:25):
I think so, just going off the way that the
Mariner's philosophy is that they're not trying to do too
much in the off season. They're really trying to hold
steady till that trade deadline or you know, have success
in til that trade deadline.

Speaker 6 (29:36):
So yes, I would say, one more move.

Speaker 7 (29:38):
Bring in a bat, and then you're now you've got
your team, You've got everything so that you can kind
of figure out what you need once you get to
the trade deadline.

Speaker 6 (29:45):
Because that seems to be their sweet spot.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Man they still have led a couple of Japanese hitters
that I was interested in and go for a lot
less and I thought they were going to be worth
I think they've got a really sneaky, sexy move up
their sleeve for a bat and I think that I'm
going to need that to feel like the offseason is complete.
But if it does happen, yeah, I'm good with that.
I think you've dressed your bullpen. I think that you

(30:11):
got yourself a decent left handed platoon outfielder that can
be used. Naylor obviously was the biggest move of the offseason.
If you can just either keep Gino or find somebody
better than Gino out there, I'll consider it complete.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
Gavel, Gavel, Gavel, I am. I'm fine if there's one
more substantial move, if it was Gino bringing him back,
and you're like, all right, you're going to be our DH,
and then we can kind of see what Ben Williamson
does over there at third. And I don't want them
to go into the season and this isn't doesn't mean
I don't believe that both of them could rise to

(30:50):
the occasion. I don't want Cole at second and Ben
at third and you're relying on both of them to
figure it out. When you're in the middle of a
championship window like the Mariner's team, I think is I
want to have an insurance policy somewhere, so like a
third baseman like Gino that could play third if Ben Williamson,

(31:10):
you know, scuffles offensively or somebody, if it was a
second baseman that you're like, okay, that way, if Cole
Young doesn't figure it out and doesn't continue to kind
of blossom after his first cup of coffee in the
big leagues, you have a backup plan there. I don't
want to go with both youngsters expecting both of them.
Now you do have what's his name, the youngster that
might be vying for that third base second base spot,

(31:32):
Colt Emerson cold Emerson. Yeah, you might be having him
thrown into the mix as well. But that now you
have three guys and you're hoping that two of them
take off. I want to have a little bit more
of a proven guy mixed into the system.

Speaker 5 (31:45):
Yees.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
So I'm sure at this point you've reached out to
everybody you're interested in. Now they're waiting for the best deals.
They're doing their negotiating, waiting for the best deals. You're
gonna wait for one of them, two of them to
basically sign somewhere else. The next thing, you know, there's
a all right, well, you didn't go where the highest
bitter was, so now are you going to take the
next highest bidder or are you going to jump and
just go where you want to go?

Speaker 5 (32:05):
Hopefully that's Seattle Mariners for some of these guys.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, And time has to be viewed differently. In a
baseball off season. You might be thinking we're running out
of time. We're not even close to running out of time. Yeah,
because you know this is the NFL. The further you
get away from NFL free agency, usually the pool is
just like diminished. But in Major league there is so

(32:29):
much left out there. I mean, there were a few
moves right at the beginning of the off season. There's
really been virtually nothing in the last month or so,
so there is a lot left there to grab. So
there's you're not running out of time, You're not running
out of fish in the pond. There's still plenty of
plenty of them out there. You just got to find

(32:50):
the right bait. All right, Well, close out the show.
Next with one last Thing Sports Radio ninety three point
three KJRFM.

Speaker 6 (32:57):
This report is sponsored by the Crones and Colidis Foundation.
There is an accident in Seattle.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
My final segment of today so radio program Chuck a
Buck in the morning. So we'll be back at six
o'clock tomorrow morning. But before that, we always go around
the room for one last thing, something that maybe we
didn't get to, that you wanted to talk about, something
that you had more to say about, that you didn't
have time. Wherever you want to take it, it's your
one last thing, Buckey go, who.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
Do you want? If there's one move all Mariners can
make who.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
I mean some of it like you said, I know
Minatari or minute Taki that whatever it is. I know
you Werekami, Yes, so I mixed him the other something. Anyways,
I know he was one that you were interested in.
H He's gone obviously for not a whole heck of
a lot to the White Sox. But of those out there,

(33:59):
I mean, is it big swing a Bregman swing, or is.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
It I just don't even play in that. I just
don't even play there. And they're not gonna sign Alex Bregman.
I mean he's gonna make thirty thirty five million dollars
a year. I think too many Mariner fans put themselves
in a position where they see this guy, he's available,
he gets connected, and then they're angry that he doesn't

(34:23):
come here. I just operate by Hey, if they signed Bregman,
that is a pleasant shock to me. I just don't
think that that's the type of player they're going to
go after. I could see a catel Marte type that
they would be interested in.

Speaker 6 (34:37):
Me because there was a lot of talk about.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Him the finance. Because the finances are controlled, they know
exactly what they're gonna have to pay him. He doesn't
make an absorbent salary, even though he's gonna make it
for many years to come. But I don't I don't
think it's gonna go there either. Something tells me it's
just gonna be a really clever move for like a
young player, maybe like a CJ. Abrams from the Washington Nationals,

(35:01):
where they get a young player with multiple years left
on his first contract. They give up a couple of
prospects for him. He's on the outs in Washington, but
they can get him still young, teach him how to
take a pitch on it every once in a while
and steal sixty bases for you, can hit twenty five
home runs for you. I think maybe I'm just using

(35:24):
him as an example, but I have a feeling they've
got like a sneaky young player that they're going to
grab for a couple of prospects that maybe we don't
want to give up.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Like, theoretically I don't want to not give up. I
don't want to give up a Las Montes. But if
you get the right young player with a controllable salary
for number of years with some upside, I think that
that's where they're.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
Going to go.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
I was having a conversation with a buddy of mine
and he threw the name Araz out there, Luis Arroz,
would you.

Speaker 5 (35:53):
Like the ideas? Yeah, I think it'd be interesting. I
just got to put the ball in play, I mean.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Second baseman, first base, if you needed him. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
I like the idea of because, I mean, we went
a couple of years ago when they let Geno go
and Taoscar Hernandez, and that didn't necessarily work out the
plan that they had of put the ball in play more. Well,
this is about as far in that direction of a
plan as you could do put that guy right up
there at top of the order, possibly with you.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
Know, Julio and cow behind him.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
I kind of like that idea. It was a it
was an interesting conversation. That would be one that would
be kind of a under the radar.

Speaker 5 (36:29):
But I'd be like, because.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
There's a bunch of times I came in here going
can we just put the ball in play?

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah? Right there? Well we don't. I mean, the Mariners
don't have a lead off hitter right now. I mean,
there's no way I want JP Crawford to ever hit
lead off again, and I don't want to see Randy
rose Arena in that spot. So Arise would certainly give
you a guy that is a bona fide leadoff hitter.

Speaker 8 (36:50):
Now.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
He is coming off his only bad season in the
last five years, or at least subpar. He's still had
two ninety two. Yeah, but for him, but yeah, for
him that I mean, that's not the that's not the
Luisa Rise that you want because he doesn't bring a
lot else to the plate. He doesn't hit for power,
he's not a very good defender. For considering he's a
ball and play kind of guy. He doesn't have speed,

(37:12):
but he is a ball and play guy. So you
know that that. I know I'd be all right with it.
I'd like, I would not hate it, I'll tell you
that much.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
I mean, well, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven
seasons and he has two hundred and fifteen strikeouts total.
That's less than Gino had last year.

Speaker 5 (37:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
A couple of batting titles in there too. Yeah, Yeah,
sign me up. I'm down with that type of a move.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
I'm free agent. I'm trying to run out. I don't know,
probably two years, twenty here's twenty two that right now.

Speaker 7 (37:47):
I do think it's funny that we haven't even gone
all the way through the Mariners off season right now,
and based on just our conversation during the Old Judge,
someone texted and was like, they're going to fall back
into mediocrity the off season other than Nailor's been a
joke as usual.

Speaker 6 (37:58):
I'm like, well, that negativity is just so deep within you.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Well, they married themselves, yeah, they so they have.

Speaker 7 (38:07):
To go with the way you look at everything now,
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
They they've went so far out on the limb of
hating Jerry and hating what the Mariners are doing and
hating ownership that they now can't allow themselves to like
it because that would be admitting that they were wrong.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
Yes, they probably think Sam Darnold's nothing more than the
glorified backup.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Oh gosh, all right, Ashley, what's your one last thing?

Speaker 7 (38:29):
Well, we were talking about Black Friday things and Matt
ebra Flus bean let go from Dallas Monday. Oh I
did that too, Yeah, that's.

Speaker 6 (38:38):
Right, Black Monday. Black Friday is different. You shop a lot.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Yeah, you can't take Abraflus back and get a discount.

Speaker 6 (38:43):
No, you well, you never know. But also there was
another move.

Speaker 7 (38:47):
The Commanders and Cliff Kingsbury have parted ways.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
That's interesting because he's got some college experience too. Yeah,
he's obviously seeking a head coaching job. I'm not sure sure.
I mean, he was a hot candidate. He was, he
had rebuilt his candidacy last year. Yeah, but this year,
obviously you didn't have a great year. Now, your quarterback

(39:12):
was hurt all year long, but you weren't even playing
well when he was healthy, right, So it's kind of
an odd time to just kind of break away because
I don't think he's a top head coaching candidate, not
saying he couldn't get a job.

Speaker 6 (39:25):
Yeah, there's interest. I'm sure people will interview him.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
But this might be just a situation of and I
think he's really hard to get along with. Oh, this
might be just a situation of I just want a
better offensive coordinator job in the National Football League. And
he also has college ties. So if something else weird
happens in the college game, if Signatty left Indiana, maybe
he's trying to free himself up to get part of

(39:48):
that avalanche.

Speaker 7 (39:48):
Yeah, but it was interesting that it was a mutual decision.
They also got rid of their DC Joe Witt, So yeah,
there you go.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah, it's yeah, it's kind it is kind of odd.

Speaker 7 (39:56):
That, yeah, that they were both like, yeah, I.

Speaker 6 (39:58):
Think we're good. We're going to move on.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Some a coach makes himself a free agent. Yeah, usually
it was different. Yeah, Usually you want to have your
hand on the bag wherever you're going. Yeah, he'll find
a job. He'll either be an NFL OC, a college
OC or an NFL head coach. Yeh and outside try
to college head coach. But Cliff Kingsbury, he won't be

(40:20):
out of work. But I don't think i'd want him. No,
seems like a pain in the ass. Finally, I'll just
close out with this. We didn't really talk about this yesterday,
but d Winters not only got hurt Saturday night in
the forty nine Ers game, he got juked out of
his ankle by the quarterback. Do you know what that now?

(40:43):
I don't know which game first. Maybe the injury happened
first and it caused him to get juked, or if
Sam Donold juked him and created the injury. But you
want to talk about injury to insult or insult to injury.
That was the example of it. D Winners got absolutely
dodged by Sam Darnold and then left the field in

(41:06):
the arms of his trainer.

Speaker 7 (41:07):
Yeah, in the arms huh words.

Speaker 5 (41:12):
But I don't know.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
I don't know a lot of Sarah. I know hewing,
that's about it. That was a clean shot that he
was going to get and good move, I mean, good,
good move.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
You've got more athleticism than what people realize he does.

Speaker 7 (41:28):
Would rather get injured the way Drake Greenlaw got injured,
where you just start running onto the field and.

Speaker 6 (41:33):
Fall down and hurt yourself.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
That that was even worse.

Speaker 6 (41:35):
That was probably that was probably less embarrassing.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Yeah, that's true. At least he didn't get juked out
by a quarter.

Speaker 5 (41:40):
Yeah, you had juked out by like the turf.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
All right, we'll talk to you tomorrow at six MJ
and Kid Next on kJ R.

Speaker 8 (41:49):
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