The Demond Williams situation is everything that is wrong with college football and people are rightfully angry about it. Not only did Williams sign a revenue-sharing deal with UW just days ago, but he announced he was leaving while his teammates and coaches were at a memorial service. Why are people shocked that the NFL is less corrupt than college football? That’s not new. :30- The Baltimore Ravens have parted ways with John Harbaugh and he’s already in high demand as seven teams have reportedly contacted him already. It seems like he will have his pick of his next destination. Meanwhile, Seahawks OC, Klint Kubiak also seems to be a hot commodity and he’s spent the week interviewing. :45- Who is to blame for the current state of college football?
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Do we have a lot.
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with what's on tap coming up here In a moment,
couple of wrinkles to today's program. Ashley has jumped aboard.
It was New Year's resolution number sixty three of mine
out of four hundred and ninety six. This year, I
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intend never to be disappointed this year. Yeah, for the
entire calendar year, that's a resolution of mine. And so
Ashley and I put together a plan where like, we're
gonna get Mike McDonald on this week, and let's get
Matt Hasselbeck as our special Seahawks playoff insider as well.
So it was pretty lofty goal. You know, this time
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of the year, Mike McDonald's not doing a lot of
interviews and Matt Hasselbeck's you know, everybody wants to talk
to Matt Hasselbeck, and damn if we didn't pull it
off this week. Yeah, so yeah, way to go.
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Actually kind of impressive.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah, really did a great job too, Really well done
on your part. So, yes, it looks like I'm going
to have an entire calendar year of not being disappointed.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Man, I wish that I could say I wouldn't have
a part in ruining that thing, that that resolution. Yeah,
you're probably going to live to disappointment. Yeah, I think
that I will disappoint you at some point in time, but.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
Maybe I've already done it. Just have that as a
sub thing underneath that.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Resolution resolution number thirty two.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Yeah, well it's like thirty two then thirty three, and
it would be fitting thirty three is unless it's Bucky,
then it still counts as not being disappointed.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Honestly, like all the resolutions sort of that's just skind
of built into the fab it is. O.
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Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Yeah, So like I'm exempt from ruining them, ning them.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Like I want to live it every day with joy
and and not let Bucky ruin, right right, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
I think it's a great plan as long as that
just put that at the top, right, all of these
exclude Bucky factors, and then you're gonna have a lot
better chance because that one I will ruin.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
I shall disappoint you again and again. I have no
doubt that you will just stomp all over my Yea.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Now you've said it for success, because now you've said
I will disappoint you at some time this year, Whereas
if you didn't disappoint him, he would now be disappointed
that you didn't do what you said you were going
to do it. True, So now every time you disappoint him,
he's gonna be like, aha, I'm so glad Bucky did
that today.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Can't be disappointed if you don't set that expectation, right, yeah, exactly. Well, anyway,
nice job, Ashley, We're going to pay that off for you.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
Today.
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Matt Hasselbeck will be joining us today to get his
new role in his life started with us, so we're
excited about that. Coming up at eight o'clock, Mike McDonald
will be joining us Friday on the radio program, and
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both of those things and about a guest that we're
going to have on today for the very first time,
and it seems like the perfect time to.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
Have him on again.
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You set your expectations and then Ashley finds a way
to surpass them. I really like this twenty twenty six Ashley.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
You know if I like the way I'm setting myself
up for the rest of the year.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Really off to a good start. So we'll tell you
more about that coming up in What's on Tap. But
we begin today's program with a thing that everybody seems
to be talking about. I'm not kidding you. I let
the overnight pass and then woke up this morning to
see what the social media buzz was in regards to
Demand Williams Junior and now granted it's reading my timeline
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and the stories that I was interested in last night
before I went to bed. But I'm telling you nine
out of ten entries were nothing but reaction to the
story yesterday. That was Demond Williams Junior backing out of
his commitment to you Dub, not even being in the
transfer portal until yesterday, and then announcing it in an
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inglorious fashion that he was entering the transfer portal when
the entire college football world already knew that he had
agreed to a deal with the snake known as Lane
Kiffen down there in Louisiana State University. And so if
you're just joining us this morning, you know, knocking the
krusties out of your eyes and try and you haven't
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heard this story, I will just briefly recap it. Demond
Williams is leaving Washington despite having an NIL deal, and
he's going to LSU, and you Dub is trying legally
to keep that from happening. Not that they think that
they're going to keep Demond Williams in a Husky uniform
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at this point, but just in an effort to say, well,
this can't be allowed, right, I realize we're in a
different era of the college football world. But two weeks
ago he agreed to be here, stay here, took money
to do so, signed his name on a contract to
do so, and now he has the ability to just
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rip that up because he got a better offer in
the last forty eight hours. Yeah, looks like that's exactly
what has happened. So he's going to LSU. He won't
be at Washington going forward, and the entire college football
world is an upheaval. Many people, and not just pissed
off Husky fans, but many people across the country wondering
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if this is going to be the example that sets
the tone for where the line is drawn with NIL
transfer portal deals and everything else. We'll see, but this
might end up being, I mean, demon Williams might be
famous long term for like Kurt Flood was for free
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agency in Major League Baseball. This might be the story
that forces the NCAA College Football to examine thoroughly and
act quickly on what they're going to allow contractually in
NIL going forward.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Well, they have, I mean, we've talked about it at length,
just because of the chaos that is the transfer port
of the way in which it has changed everything, and
there's no there's nothing that's stable. You just feel like,
you know, you use the joke like if somebody gets
a stale bagel or something that they I'm out, or
if a girl in economics class doesn't say hi to him,
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I'm transferring whatever, whatever, something frivolous might be. Now, if
this one is I was going to make five million dollars,
but I get offered six million dollars, then I can
jump ship and just say, well, I got to do
what's best for my family.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
All that's finding good. It's not like he didn't say
for family.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
He said very clearly, I'm going to get I gotta
do the best for me, for me and my future. Yeah,
my future, and so yeah, I mean it's all of
it is fine and well, how people are going to
make their decisions. It's just that you have to have
some sort of barrier, some sort of guardrails on the thing,
and they haven't had any.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
You just you can't let it just be.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Well, this was supposed to be a guard rail they
were supposed to have. NCAA was going to start paying
players and then you're supposed to be able to sign
a contract, and then that made it.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I mean, well, when you signed some agreement.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, you dub assuing him. I mean, they're suing the process.
Now what they get out of that, I'm not sure.
I mean I just I read this morning an attorney
breaking it down and she said they're not going to
be able to keep him from going to LS.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Well, I don't think they want to. I don't think
you would.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
They're not going to be able to force him to
stay in a UW uniform. At best, they're going to
get some money back out of the deal. And that's
about all you can expect until the NCAA in college
football gets together and actually puts.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
Those guardrails up.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Yeah, puts up enough that based is beyond a parent
I mean I always thought, I mean, I'm only fifty,
so who knows what I know. I always thought a
contract was binding to some extent. Now whatever it is
they're having them sign for nil deals apparently is not
the same thing.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
It's just here, here's what we.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Agree to pay you, and yet you can leave if
somebody calls you, some snake in the grass calls you.
After that, Now, the idea of once you've signed again,
re signed again, that you should be off limits to
someone being able to contact you but the agents. And
there's been shadiness going on in sports and in college
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football primarily forever, and now it's kind of like it's
all above board, or it's supposedly all out in the open,
and yet there's still well if you give an inch,
then they'll take a yard that type of thing. It's like, oh,
they're letting us do this, okay, and there's a cap,
a twenty and a half million dollar cap, and they
got to split that.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
They are finding ways around that whole thing.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
And then obviously now we're recognized, recognizing that they're finding
ways around even the rules of what is and what
isn't off limits. I mean, once somebody says I'm coming
back or I'm going to transfer to this place, it
shouldn't be Well, now that we know that you're open
to it, we can or even at that point he
was saying, I'm not open to leaving, I'm not wanting
to leave, I'm coming back, and.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
So everybody's excited.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
That was just a few days ago, and then now
all of a sudden he's you find out that at
the probably the worst possible time, while him a bunch
of his teammates are so at the memorial for the
soccer player, Mia, What was there you handt Mia Hammond, Yeah,
that they're they're at that thing, and he then announces
on Instagram that I'm entering the transfer portal.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
It's just it's beyond a bad look.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
But you're right, if a defensive end leaves does the
same thing, or a cornerback or a running back, it
doesn't hit the same as somebody that you know, people
were talking about this as a Heisman candidate, and you
know you've rebound after everything that happened with Katherin de
bor leaving and Jedfish and Demon Williams come in here,
and now you're thinking, hey, all right, boom, at the
end of the season, you got to first and foremost
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lock down your guys and then get some from the
transfer portal in you think you do that with your quarterback.
And now you hear that he might be jumping ship
or his jumping ship. I think, as she's right, I
don't think anybody wants him back.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Now.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Once you do that, it's like, okay, we don't necessarily
want you back, but they're going to create some sort
of chaos that is going to maybe mess up LSU's
world a little bit, or possibly have to give them
some money. I have no idea, but they got to
figure out some sort of punishment for stuff like this.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
I mean, I would think, I don't even care if
we don't officially ironclad know how this is gonna work
going forward. But you sign a contract with another entity,
it should mean more than well, I've got this minimum
and now I can start negotiating with other people. It
has to mean more than that.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Right well, and especially in this situation, this was kind
of a new I mean, I think they signed a
shared revenue. Yeah, shared revenue. So it wasn't just like
your this is just a contract for you to play here.
This was we're going to share money we make with you,
and you know, and that's how important you are to us.
And so I think the really unfortunate thing is this
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is making coaches jobs impossible.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
But the coaches are.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
As much well I should say athletic director's jobs then,
or you know, administration jobs impossible, GMS. Now at college,
it's making all of the jobs impossible because now you've
recruited the guy. He's come to the school, he likes it,
he's decided to stay. You're giving him a shared revenue deal,
he signs it, and now he's leaving. I mean, what
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are what are you supposed to do?
Speaker 1 (13:46):
They have to have rules, and everybody's talking about it
and written. We have gone to the point where we're
paying the athletes out in the open, right. Yeah. I
do laugh at the idea that man and we used
to think that. I can't believe that the NFL is
purer than college sports. The NFL has always been purer
than college sports. So I kind of laugh at that
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kind of sentiment that's been shared overnight.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
But but we have to set up iron collaterals. It
has to be treated professionally. It has to You have
to have some commissioner, you have to have lawyers and
the contracts that they sign, and the rules have to
be put in place that if you validate, if you
invalidate them, there have to be consequences for it. You
just can't go to a better place. I mean, right now,
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Sam Darnold can't decide, you know what, what a great
year I had with the Seahawks, But I'm gonna I'm
gonna make a little bit more money next year with
the Cardinals. So I'm just gonna take it. No, no, no,
you signed a contract. So obviously, if you sign a
contract in sports, if you do it the right way,
it does have meaning, It does have teeth, it does
have grit. You can't just get out of it because
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you want to. So whatever they're doing in the National
Football League obviously now has to happen at the college
sports level as well. And so you know, Rick new
ISAA talks about it all the time. You know, I
know they're gonna work on the college football calendar this offseason,
but this is gonna be I think the Okay, this
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crosses the line. There's no way we can keep allowing
this to happen because what does U DUBB have to
do now? Their only choice is, well, now we got
to steal somebody else's quarterback yep. And then so it
just perpetuates the problem. It's just like the coaching situation.
College coaches contracts don't mean anything.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
I think they should.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
You know, I don't think it's that outlandish to say
that you just can't leave for the better job immediately
because it pays you fourteen dollars more. I think that
there should be something there that.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
Should stick to people.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Lane keffn should have to sit out a year if
it's so great that he can coach at LSU. But
that snake doesn't think that anything is sacred.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
He'll will, he will.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
He's like Edward Longshanks of England. I mean, he's the
guy that's standing there at his assistant coach's wedding saying,
I get first rights to sleep with your wife. Just
what we agreed to. It's just the law. Sorry about it, Bud,
I've got first rights, you know. That's that's the way
that he treats everything in sports. He just crushes anything
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that if he can eat it, he's gonna eat it
and that and we've got to stop that mentality otherwise. Yes,
the sport is in trouble. Aaron Taylor said it a
few weeks ago. I agree with it completely. The sport
is in this strange position. It's as popular as ever,
but it's as vulnerable as ever, and so you have
to now care for it in a different way and
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you better get on it now.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
Yeah. Well, I mean it's right.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
It's kind of crazy the way that you just put it,
because it's like this going down is one of the
grosser examples of the of the transfer one because it
kind of hits close to home, and I see how
it affects all my friends that are you dub fans,
like they were just was a January second that he signed, right,
it was like everybody's like rope right on, boom, here
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we go, you know, Heisman candidate. You just kind of
feel like you've got the most important piece locked up
for next year. And that's after the couple months of
wondering if Jedfish was going to be around. So it's like, okay,
that water's under the bridge. Now you've got your quarterback back.
You're like, here we go. Now just add some more
pieces and that and and and you know, improve on
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a nine and four record, and everything's looking like it's
going on the up and up. Now all of a sudden,
it's like what and you find yourself in the midst
of kind of some upheople. The problem with it is,
I don't know for sure how you can. It's always
been that the powers would be the you know, corporate
iHeart has control over us, right like they we sign
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a contract and then if they don't want us anymore,
they can say goodbye.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
Yeah, we can't say that.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
We can't just say well, sorry, I'm I'm under contract,
but that place over there wants me more, so pay
up or I'm leaving. No, you're under contract. So somewhere
along the line it can't be fair and square. It's
not going to be fair and square. Somebody has to
have be the hammer. Somebody has to be the nail.
And unfortunately, at this point, yeah, we are nails for sure, but.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
There's usually some sort of at least small protection. Right,
even if they just let you go, you're going to
get something. It's not if you're done and you don't
get paid again after that day.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Right, there's got to be there's got to be some
more rules put in place. Now we recognize that when
everybody is clamoring you got to pay these guys. It
seems like the NCAAAA just said, okay, here you go
go ahead and pay them. See how if that works
out for you, like they wanted the chaos. Well, now
you're at the point of we're in the midst of
getting ready to watch the semi finals, and there's no
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part of this ugly situation that just came down the
pike yesterday that's going to make me not want to
watch the college football playoffs, and yet it only has
to hit close enough to home for you individually for
some people to say I'm done. I'm not gonna do
it anymore, especially if you were somebody that's been paying
into some collective and now all of a sudden you
feel like your money, like the Troy Aigmann situation, that
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that went out the door, because there's no nothing kind
of reeling that thing in.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Well, I think this had to happen in the sports
where that maybe we had to live with this period
of chaos. But there are some things that are obvious.
Coaches should not be able to leave with multiple years
on their contract without more of a penalty. Players in
the middle of a national championship run. Should not be
forced to make decisions whether or not they're transferring and
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leaving the roster before they even play in the championship
came and this a guy that signs a contract should
mean more than oh, now I've really got negotiating power
because Washington knows me this minimum and yet now I
can start looking around for something better. It has to
mean more than that. So there are some obvious things
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on the table this offseason for college football, and there's
no kicking these things down the road. No, you got
to get addressed them now.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
You have to.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
As soon as the National Championship's over, I want to
hear some legislation because there's no way that you can
keep this going the way that it's going. Right now,
we're gonna be talking about this throughout the show. Let's
find out what's on tap.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
What's on TEP, what's on TEP?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
All right, Yeah, Demon Williams will be a big topic
today and all the mini fingers that come from this story.
Softy's gonna join us today at seven thirty. He's got
some insight that we don't have, so we'll share that
with you. Coming up on the program today. College football
Playoff rezumes tomorrow. It'll be Ole Miss versus Miami and
the Thursday game. The Friday night game will be Indiana
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and Oregon. It's the final four of college football and
so the good and the bad of college football being
on display here over the course of this week. National
Football League Wildcard Playoff Round will begin on Saturday with
the Rams at Carolina starting at one thirty. Triple header
on Sunday. There's even a Monday night game. We will
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preview the NFL playoffs and the unique way that we
do it here on Chuck and Buck. A Green Jacket
draft coming your way today at nine o'clock. Seahawks are
on by Boy. That seems like an advantage.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Wait, I don't play for Yeah, I don't even have
to play.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
This week we got advanced.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
We advanced without even playing.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Greg Bell is going to join us and talk about
that at seven oh five. And as I mentioned, Matt
Hasselbeck makes his debut as a team member today at
eight o'clock, so we're fired up for that. Speaking of fire,
John Harball got fired in Baltimore yesterday. We'll discuss that
more here in a matter of minutes. Cracking one again,
that's eight out of nine. There's suddenly just to point
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out of first place in the division, and it's led
by the kids. Berkeley Catton had his first goal of
his career last night and he had two of them.
And we're gonna chat with Berkeley today at nine thirty,
so he'll be joining us on the program. And in
college basketball, you doub will take on Purdue tonight, the
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fifth ranked team in America. The team that started the
year is the preseason number one, and that tip will
take place at five thirty. Coming up next Hardball's Out
in Baltimore. The ripple effects and how it might even
impact the Seahawks. We'll discuss it next on Chuck and
Buck Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Alright, Chuck out,
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Lucky Jacobson and Ashley Ryan with you. So much to
discuss today. We've already discussed the Demand Williams situation here
in Washington for twenty minutes this morning. It will be
probably our number one topic throughout the course of the show.
Today's soft You'll be joining us at seven thirty. If
not that topic, it's obviously Seahawks getting ready for bye
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week and the NFL playoffs, and we got that covered
with Matt Hasselbeck joining us as our inside our expert
our analyst, Special Analyst O Ryan Ealy of the NFL Playoffs,
Seahawks playoffs. He's going to join us starting today and
every Wednesday throughout the postseason at eight o'clock and Greg
Bell will be with us at seven o five this morning.
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But there is another story out there that I think
that it at least deserves a segment of discussion here
on our four hour program, and that is the Ravens
firing John Harbaugh yesterday after eighteen years as head coach.
That's one hell of a run in today by today's
standards in the National Football League. And he was one
of those coaches that I thought would just sort of
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be there as long as he wanted to be there.
But the Ravens had a different idea considering how the
season went this past year, and I guess from what
we're hearing, John Harbaugh had a different idea, as it's
felt very mutual. I mean, the headline says he was fired,
but it sounds like Harball in his conversations with the
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Ravens own had pretty much made it clear that maybe
it is time for a reset, maybe it is time
for a change in life, and he's not going to
be out of work long unless he wants to be.
According to Adam Schefter this morning, seven teams have already
contacted John Harbaugh about their head coaching position, and I'd
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be all over that as well. But it might not
stop there. Frankly, I mean Buffalo apparently, if Sean McDermott
doesn't go deep, and I mean as deep as you
can go in the playoffs, he could be out and
John Harball might be interested in Yeah, I'll take a
Josh Allen led team, and then you've got the Dallas
Cowboys situation. I wouldn't be surprised if Jerry Jones wouldn't
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dump Brian Schottenheimer and a heartbeat if John Harball was
willing to come to Dallas. So it might not just
be the candidates out there that have head coaching vacancies.
That's what kind of commodity John Harbaugh would be and
should be on the market in term of whether or
not you think you could you have to fill a
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head coaching vacancy.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Or possibly upgrade one.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
But this is I wouldn't say shocking because we sort
of discussed it yesterday, so it's been out there that
maybe his time has come to an end in Baltimore.
But certainly when the season began, I wouldn't have guessed
John Harball was.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Going to be available on the open market. No, And
it's still shocking to me. I mean when we were
talking about it, I still was like, why would they
move on from him? Now the fact that you were
hearing that it may have been more mutual that he's
kind of like, yeah, I'm kind of ready for a change, right,
I mean, if if he is still wanting to coach,
I mean, I guess there's the possibility that he's kind
(25:41):
of like, I just need a break from this. You know,
maybe it's just the headache. But this guy, it was,
has been really good. I mean, he's had very good
Hall of Fame good Yeah. And yet I mean we're
talking about this year they missed the playoffs because of
a last second missed field goal by their rookie kicker.
And if they get in, they didn't seem near as
dangerous as they did the last two years when they
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were kind of rolling through and Lamar was healthy and
playing like well, playing at an MVP caliburn winning an MVP.
I think that there's there's room for both of those
things to be possible and true. And yet, if he's
still interested in coaching and he just wants to change
of scenery, yeah, he's going to be very highly coveted.
I mean, there's nobody that's not going to be interested
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in what he brings to the table.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
He just looks like he builds winners.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
There was a meme going around yesterday that was the
field goal there, and it said, Harbaugh fired if it
was miss left, Harbor fired if it was miss right,
and then if it was made, Tomlin fired. Like that
was the implications of that game. But it is interesting. Yeah,
obviously he's going to be in high demand because there's
seven head coaching openings, but one of them's the Ravens.
So obviously, of the seven teams that have contacted him,
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the Ravens aren't one of them. One of them, they
still have a coach.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
That's right, Yeah, that's right. And look, I don't think
that no matter how deeply the Steelers go with Tomlin,
I still think that there's a possibility that he and
the Steelers get together to the end of the year
and Tomlin's like, I think maybe it's time for a chance,
So he might be available as what McDermott might be
available for. It's all said and done, Buffalo might be
done with him, but I'm guessing, considering the success he's had,
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that somebody with one of these vacancies might be interested coach.
So it could be a crazy offseason in terms of
head coaches in the NFL, it typically is anyway, but
this one might be special, and certainly John Harball would
be at the front of the line. For me, he's
such an outlier because we talked about what Arizona's up
against and trying to find a head coach that matches
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the geniuses that they have in the division McDonald, McVeigh
and Shanahan. He doesn't fall unto that category. He actually,
from a personnel standpoint pretty much lets other people do
the personnel. He was a special teams coach. What he
is is just a great organizer of football and a
great organizer of men and a great handler of personalities.
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And I will use the word great because you don't
have an eighteen year run of success like he's had
without having some speciality, without having something really good about
your leadership skills. And I would think every single team
that has a vacancy, for sure, would be interested in
the John Harbaugh business. But there's another side of it.
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Baltimore now as an opening, and clearly there was some
sort of rift between Harball and Lamar. Harbaugh did not
get the Lamar effort and abilities that we've seen showcased
with these two in the past. And when Lamar Jackson
was ever asked about the relationship, the answers weren't nearly
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as defined as they were in the past. So I
don't know who's to blame, and I don't know how
great a rift there was, but obviously there was something
different between Lamar Jackson, John Harbaugh and Baltimore Ravens this
past year. But if you're hiring a head coach, you
got to get somebody. Your first priority is who's going
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to speak best to Lamar Jackson because he is our
number one asset and we need him to play like
he did prior to twenty twenty five. Who are we
going to get to do that? So you either get
like a Harbaugh type, who is that my specialty is
dealing with people and athletes and getting the most out
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of football players and making them part of a team concept.
Or you have to go offense and try to get
Lamar Jackson back on the right track. Well, according to
almost everybody out there, the number one offensive mind target
this offseason is our guy Clint Kubiak because people were
so impressed with what he did with Sam Darnold and
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the Seahawks offense this year. You do have to give
rise to the thought, is Kubiak perhaps a marriage partner
for the Baltimore Ravens If in fact, they want an
offensive guy to come in there and work with their
two greatest assets, Lamar and Henry, and get the kind
of upgrade that the Seahawks enjoyed this past year in Baltimore.
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Because if you can get it in Baltimore with those
two guys, I mean, imagine what you could do offensively.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
It's something that has to be thought about.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Well, yeah, I mean it's this year. Maybe he didn't
get it in large part because Lamar was hurt and
missed some time, and then even when he was out there,
he wasn't playing at the MVP level. But do you
still I mean Derek Henry kind of showed up still
even at the end of this year and didn't look
like he's lost a step or definitely hasn't lost any
power the way that he runs. And so, I mean
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it's going to be a coveted job. I would think
there's some that are not as much coveted jobs. I mean,
you know who wants to inherit the mess that is
the Cleveland Browns that's completely different than the Baltimore Ravens.
I mean, you know, New York Giants is not they
haven't been good, but they feel it feels somewhat better
than the Browns didn't seem as messy. So yeah, I
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think that there's different jobs and different coaches would be
interested in those jobs. This would be one because, like
I said, they still have enough guys. I mean, they
were right there on the verge of winning the division,
you know, albeit not with a great record, but they
were still right on the verge of that ball going
through the uprights and they win the division. And you know,
(31:28):
to me, I could definitely see how Harbaugh when you
get to where you're making the playoffs just about every
single year and yet you're not getting over the hump. Now,
some of that is when did you play? Oh you
played during the you know, Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid
Because pretty tough to get to the super Bowl when
that team's been around up until this season. But if
you can't figure out a way to get your most
(31:49):
important player motivated to improve upon what it is like
once you've become an MVP, it's hard to stay MVP ish.
And I think that they if there was a fall off,
he seems like a type of coach I'd be like, no,
we ain't going backwards, man, we still got to keep
we still got to improve because we haven't won the
Super Bowl since whatever year it was, back when he
won it, before Lamar was even in the league. So
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it's an interesting situation. I mean, I think he's going
to be coveted. I think that job that he's leaving
or got fired from is going to be coveted by
a few people as well, and Clint Kubiak could be
the guy.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yeah, well I know this. Kubiak has done interviews all
week long, so he has certainly you know, whether or
not he emerges as a top candidate, whether or not
he interviews will that I couldn't answer you. But I
know that they have arranged, and when I say they,
the Suitors and the Seahawks for Clint Kubiak to do
(32:46):
multiple interviews for head coaching positions this week because this
is the window, as Greg told us yesterday, because once
he starts preparing for the playoffs, then it's you can't
touch him for a while. So he is doing his
interviews this week during a bye week. Don't know if
people knew, but we earned a bye because we were
the best team in the l Yeah. Yeah, it earns
(33:08):
you some privileges anyway. By Mode but Clint Kubiak is
using the bye week to do all of this interview stuff,
this preliminary interview stuff with the teams out there with
vacancies that have contacted him, and I know there's at
least two and I think it's a lot more than that.
I think it's around five. Frankly, at least that seems
(33:28):
to be the rumors out there. So we will monitor it,
we will will report anything we find, and we will
discuss it more with Greg Bell coming up at seven
five here this morning, but coming up next. Yeah, we're
not going to be able to get too far away
from this Demand Williams college football story, so we zoomed
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the conversation next on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Hey,
good morning, it's Chuck Buck and Ashley with you, and yeah,
we're still trying to come to grips as well well
with this whole Demand Williams Junior story. Just update you
in case you are hearing it for the first time.
Demon Williams Junior had signed basically a contract revenue sharing
(34:12):
contract with you DUBB just a few days ago, and
it was one thing that we thought Jedfish wasn't gonna
have to worry about going forward in this constant state
of turmoil that college football and overturn that college football
finds itself in in this new nil era. But apparently
you can reneg on that contract signing because he has
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he entered the transfer portal yesterday already at an agreement
with LSU. So obviously he was tampered with by Lane Kiffin,
which should cross some sort of boundary and break some
sort of rule. And yet we might not have strict
enough rules and standards set up just yet in this
new era to enact any kind of penalties against Demon Williams,
(34:58):
Lane Kiffin, LSU, or anyone else. And so it might
be a situation right now until we get those guardrails
up that UDUB just has to figure out a way
to pick up the pieces, find another quarterback, and they'll
probably steal someone from another program in order to satisfy
that need at the quarterback position. It's it's an ugly situation,
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there's no question about it in terms of the player himself.
And we're gonna cover this from a lot of different
angles today. Softie's gonna join us at seven thirty five. Yeah,
I think you are entitled to be angry at Demon
Williams Junior, and I get that maybe legally he has
the right to do this to improve his standing, to
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improve his position for the future, to improve his financial portfolio.
I guess that he can wiggle his way out of contract.
But I do wonder, like, what are we teaching our
young people? I mean, is there any level of teaching commitment.
I don't know of either one of you, and I
know you both have young children. Ashley, you've already started
the process of introducing Palmer to the new Little League
(36:03):
system that we have, and Bucky, that's in your future
for both your son and daughter as well, trying to
navigate that entire travel sports world. But Cam Cleveland did
this narration today where he said parents are a little
bit responsible for this. If you're the parent that moved
your kid around four times in high school to try
to find the better opportunity and the better more playing time,
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or if you played on sixteen different travel league teams
by the time you were nine years old. He goes
into this sort of editorial about it that we've sort
of created the mindset of a player, like if I'm
not happy right now, I'll just leave, Or if I
think I can be happier. I will just leave. Maybe
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we did skip a generation of teaching commitment, bucky, I
don't know.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
Most certainly is not the same. I mean I can
remember growing up the one thing that I was told
by my parents, all right, so you want to wrestle,
all right? You want to sign up for basketball? Yep,
all right. Once we do it, you're in. There's no quitting.
And that meant obviously not quitting the team and just
not play anymore, but it also would have included it
had there been opportunities. You don't get to just jump
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over to another team if you like that one. I
don't care if you got buddies over there. I don't
care if they're winning more, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Isn't that funny that little league had better structure? Like
we had some off season movement in little leagues, but
nobody could move over.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
No, Yeah, I mean it is.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
It's pretty silly that that little league actually is a
little bit more.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
Sound when it comes to that. Now, I don't get
me wrong.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
There is there is places and avenues and ways in
which people should be able to move up in whatever
field or sport or whatever you should be able to
take something and go somewhere else, but there has to
be rules to it. There just has to be otherwise
it's chaos. And you know, I mean, the reason that
our country is is better than some countries out there
(37:54):
is because it's less chaotic. There's more rules that kind
of govern the way you go about things. We complained
sometimes about driving, Well, drive here and then go drive
in Venezuela, for example, not saying that because of what's
recently went on in Venezuela. I've just driven there.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
Chaos. They don't abide by the rules.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
No one does, and when no one does, then you
can't abide by them or you just you're going to
get smashed. And so that's basically where we're at. I
think with college, you know sports right now, is that
you can't really abide by rules, even if you're somebody
that is committed. You know, you wanted to commit. You
genuinely were like, ah, I'm signing with you, dub and
(38:33):
I'm going to purple rain tweets forever for me, and
then all of a sudden they if someone brings someone
in in your position, you waited your turn for a
couple of years, and then the coach brings someone in
through the transfer portal because it helps him keep his
job or maybe move up to a better job if
that's what he wants. Well, then you can't just say, well,
I'm going to stay loyal at my own expense. You
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have to then play the game. You got to jump
in the portal and go somewhere that you can play
and not be stepped over by the next best thing.
And so it's a it's an ugly situation. And yet
when it comes down to stuff like this, there's got
to be something. I don't know, if it's bad work
by the lawyers that you dug. Something has to be
where you when you sign this you are now here
at least for this one year. Yeah, but the fact
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that that is apparently not the case is just mind
boggling to me. And yet we're gonna have to see
how this ugliness comes out in the wash. But maybe
it's the ugly you know, straw that broke this canvas
necessary evil. Yeah, maybe it's what had to happen in
order to get the somebody to get their arms wrapped
around this thing.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
I mean new Heiseel said the other day. There the
transfer portal is for for two different reasons. Right, You've
got the players that are looking for that opportunity because
maybe they're not getting it at the school that they're at.
And that's what's great about it is you're providing more
opportunity for players.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Not when you're building the whole program around the guys.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Right exactly, it's and it's not it's not for ooh,
but I could get more money if I go here more,
you know, like one hundred five hundred thousand dollars more
than the five million dollars. I mean, that's this is
just abuse of the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah, I agree, And look, demand Williams is a heck
of a player, and I really was excited about him
staying in a Washington uniform for at least one more season.
But and now we're not going to get that, right,
and now I want him to throw thirteen interceptions and
have one touchdown pass correct here for LSU. I mean,
(40:26):
That's where I'm at with Demond Williams Junior at this
point that said this could be the unnecessary evil. I
think that maybe when we look back at this twenty
five years from now, will to discuss the Demond Williams
Junior case, because this feels so egregious on what the
expectation was for NIL that I don't know if the
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NCAA is going to have any choice in the matter anymore.
You're gonna have to treat it like the National Football League.
You're going to have to put those rules, those guardrails
in place that we've discussed this hour, and I think
maybe this is the tipping point. It's unfortunately that it
had to happen to the program here in Seattle that
we many of our listeners follow, and we cover here
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at KJR. It's unfortunate that we have to be such
an integral part of this story. But I do believe
this might be the case that does get us and
force now the change necessary to make sense of college
football in this new world going forward. All right, Headlines
next plus Greg Bell on KJR
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Let's say the letters of the b are burnt out.
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Speaker 6 (02:06):
Do we have a lot.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
To discuss here over our four hours together. That's right,
we'll be taking you till ten o'clock. We'll go over
with what's on tap coming up here In a moment,
couple of wrinkles to today's program. Ashley has jumped aboard.
It was New Year's resolution number sixty three of mine
out of four hundred and ninety six. This year, I
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intend never to be disappointed this year. Yeah, for the
entire calendar year, that's a resolution of mine. And so
Ashley and I put together a plan where like, we're
gonna get Mike McDonald on this week, and let's get
Matt Hasselbeck as our special Seahawks playoff insider as well.
So it was pretty lofty goal. You know, this time
(02:51):
of the year, Mike McDonald's not doing a lot of
interviews and Matt Hasselbeck's you know, everybody wants to talk
to Matt Hasselbeck, and damn if we didn't pull it
off this week. Yeah, so yeah, way to go.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Actually kind of impressive.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah, really did a great job too, Really well done
on your part. So, yes, it looks like I'm going
to have an entire calendar year of not being disappointed.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Man, I wish that I could say I wouldn't have
a part in ruining that thing, that that resolution. Yeah,
you're probably going to live to disappointment. Yeah, I think
that I will disappoint you at some point in time, but.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
Maybe I've already done it. Just have that as a
sub thing underneath that.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Resolution resolution number thirty two.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Yeah, well it's like thirty two then thirty three, and
it would be fitting thirty three is unless it's Bucky,
then it still counts as not being disappointed.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Honestly, like all the resolutions sort of that's just skind
of built into the fab it is. O.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Yeah, So like I'm exempt from ruining them, ning them.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Like I want to live it every day with joy
and and not let Bucky ruin, right right, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
I think it's a great plan as long as that
just put that at the top, right, all of these
exclude Bucky factors, and then you're gonna have a lot
better chance because that one I will ruin.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
I shall disappoint you again and again. I have no
doubt that you will just stomp all over my Yea.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Now you've said it for success, because now you've said
I will disappoint you at some time this year, Whereas
if you didn't disappoint him, he would now be disappointed
that you didn't do what you said you were going
to do it. True, So now every time you disappoint him,
he's gonna be like, aha, I'm so glad Bucky did
that today.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Can't be disappointed if you don't set that expectation, right, yeah, exactly. Well, anyway,
nice job, Ashley, We're going to pay that off for you.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
Today.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Matt Hasselbeck will be joining us today to get his
new role in his life started with us, so we're
excited about that. Coming up at eight o'clock, Mike McDonald
will be joining us Friday on the radio program, and
we'll give you details on that. I think eight o'clock
is what we're going to do on Friday morning as well,
so he'll join us on a football Friday. Excited about
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both of those things and about a guest that we're
going to have on today for the very first time,
and it seems like the perfect time to.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
Have him on again.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
You set your expectations and then Ashley finds a way
to surpass them. I really like this twenty twenty six Ashley.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
You know if I like the way I'm setting myself
up for the rest of the year.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Really off to a good start. So we'll tell you
more about that coming up in What's on Tap. But
we begin today's program with a thing that everybody seems
to be talking about. I'm not kidding you. I let
the overnight pass and then woke up this morning to
see what the social media buzz was in regards to
Demand Williams Junior and now granted it's reading my timeline
(05:52):
and the stories that I was interested in last night
before I went to bed. But I'm telling you nine
out of ten entries were nothing but reaction to the
story yesterday. That was Demond Williams Junior backing out of
his commitment to you Dub, not even being in the
transfer portal until yesterday, and then announcing it in an
(06:16):
inglorious fashion that he was entering the transfer portal when
the entire college football world already knew that he had
agreed to a deal with the snake known as Lane
Kiffen down there in Louisiana State University. And so if
you're just joining us this morning, you know, knocking the
krusties out of your eyes and try and you haven't
(06:37):
heard this story, I will just briefly recap it. Demond
Williams is leaving Washington despite having an NIL deal, and
he's going to LSU, and you Dub is trying legally
to keep that from happening. Not that they think that
they're going to keep Demond Williams in a Husky uniform
(06:59):
at this point, but just in an effort to say, well,
this can't be allowed, right, I realize we're in a
different era of the college football world. But two weeks
ago he agreed to be here, stay here, took money
to do so, signed his name on a contract to
do so, and now he has the ability to just
(07:21):
rip that up because he got a better offer in
the last forty eight hours. Yeah, looks like that's exactly
what has happened. So he's going to LSU. He won't
be at Washington going forward, and the entire college football
world is an upheaval. Many people, and not just pissed
off Husky fans, but many people across the country wondering
(07:44):
if this is going to be the example that sets
the tone for where the line is drawn with NIL
transfer portal deals and everything else. We'll see, but this
might end up being, I mean, demon Williams might be
famous long term for like Kurt Flood was for free
(08:04):
agency in Major League Baseball. This might be the story
that forces the NCAA College Football to examine thoroughly and
act quickly on what they're going to allow contractually in
NIL going forward.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Well, they have, I mean, we've talked about it at length,
just because of the chaos that is the transfer port
of the way in which it has changed everything, and
there's no there's nothing that's stable. You just feel like,
you know, you use the joke like if somebody gets
a stale bagel or something that they I'm out, or
if a girl in economics class doesn't say hi to him,
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I'm transferring whatever, whatever, something frivolous might be. Now, if
this one is I was going to make five million dollars,
but I get offered six million dollars, then I can
jump ship and just say, well, I got to do
what's best for my family.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
All that's finding good. It's not like he didn't say
for family.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
He said very clearly, I'm going to get I gotta
do the best for me, for me and my future. Yeah,
my future, and so yeah, I mean it's all of
it is fine and well, how people are going to
make their decisions. It's just that you have to have
some sort of barrier, some sort of guardrails on the thing,
and they haven't had any.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
You just you can't let it just be.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Well, this was supposed to be a guard rail they
were supposed to have. NCAA was going to start paying
players and then you're supposed to be able to sign
a contract, and then that made it.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I mean, well, when you signed some agreement.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, you dub assuing him. I mean, they're suing the process.
Now what they get out of that, I'm not sure.
I mean I just I read this morning an attorney
breaking it down and she said they're not going to
be able to keep him from going to LS.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Well, I don't think they want to. I don't think
you would.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
They're not going to be able to force him to
stay in a UW uniform. At best, they're going to
get some money back out of the deal. And that's
about all you can expect until the NCAA in college
football gets together and actually puts.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
Those guardrails up.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Yeah, puts up enough that based is beyond a parent
I mean I always thought, I mean, I'm only fifty,
so who knows what I know. I always thought a
contract was binding to some extent. Now whatever it is
they're having them sign for nil deals apparently is not
the same thing.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
It's just here, here's what we.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Agree to pay you, and yet you can leave if
somebody calls you, some snake in the grass calls you.
After that, Now, the idea of once you've signed again,
re signed again, that you should be off limits to
someone being able to contact you but the agents. And
there's been shadiness going on in sports and in college
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football primarily forever, and now it's kind of like it's
all above board, or it's supposedly all out in the open,
and yet there's still well if you give an inch,
then they'll take a yard that type of thing. It's like, oh,
they're letting us do this, okay, and there's a cap,
a twenty and a half million dollar cap, and they
got to split that.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
They are finding ways around that whole thing.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
And then obviously now we're recognized, recognizing that they're finding
ways around even the rules of what is and what
isn't off limits. I mean, once somebody says I'm coming
back or I'm going to transfer to this place, it
shouldn't be Well, now that we know that you're open
to it, we can or even at that point he
was saying, I'm not open to leaving, I'm not wanting
to leave, I'm coming back, and.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
So everybody's excited.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
That was just a few days ago, and then now
all of a sudden he's you find out that at
the probably the worst possible time, while him a bunch
of his teammates are so at the memorial for the
soccer player, Mia, What was there you handt Mia Hammond, Yeah,
that they're they're at that thing, and he then announces
on Instagram that I'm entering the transfer portal.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
It's just it's beyond a bad look.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
But you're right, if a defensive end leaves does the
same thing, or a cornerback or a running back, it
doesn't hit the same as somebody that you know, people
were talking about this as a Heisman candidate, and you
know you've rebound after everything that happened with Katherin de
bor leaving and Jedfish and Demon Williams come in here,
and now you're thinking, hey, all right, boom, at the
end of the season, you got to first and foremost
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lock down your guys and then get some from the
transfer portal in you think you do that with your quarterback.
And now you hear that he might be jumping ship
or his jumping ship. I think, as she's right, I
don't think anybody wants him back.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Now.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Once you do that, it's like, okay, we don't necessarily
want you back, but they're going to create some sort
of chaos that is going to maybe mess up LSU's
world a little bit, or possibly have to give them
some money. I have no idea, but they got to
figure out some sort of punishment for stuff like this.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
I mean, I would think, I don't even care if
we don't officially ironclad know how this is gonna work
going forward. But you sign a contract with another entity,
it should mean more than well, I've got this minimum
and now I can start negotiating with other people. It
has to mean more than that.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Right well, and especially in this situation, this was kind
of a new I mean, I think they signed a
shared revenue. Yeah, shared revenue. So it wasn't just like
your this is just a contract for you to play here.
This was we're going to share money we make with you,
and you know, and that's how important you are to us.
And so I think the really unfortunate thing is this
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is making coaches jobs impossible.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
But the coaches are.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
As much well I should say athletic director's jobs then,
or you know, administration jobs impossible, GMS. Now at college,
it's making all of the jobs impossible because now you've
recruited the guy. He's come to the school, he likes it,
he's decided to stay. You're giving him a shared revenue deal,
he signs it, and now he's leaving. I mean, what
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are what are you supposed to do?
Speaker 1 (13:46):
They have to have rules, and everybody's talking about it
and written. We have gone to the point where we're
paying the athletes out in the open, right. Yeah. I
do laugh at the idea that man and we used
to think that. I can't believe that the NFL is
purer than college sports. The NFL has always been purer
than college sports. So I kind of laugh at that
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kind of sentiment that's been shared overnight.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
But but we have to set up iron collaterals. It
has to be treated professionally. It has to You have
to have some commissioner, you have to have lawyers and
the contracts that they sign, and the rules have to
be put in place that if you validate, if you
invalidate them, there have to be consequences for it. You
just can't go to a better place. I mean, right now,
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Sam Darnold can't decide, you know what, what a great
year I had with the Seahawks, But I'm gonna I'm
gonna make a little bit more money next year with
the Cardinals. So I'm just gonna take it. No, no, no,
you signed a contract. So obviously, if you sign a
contract in sports, if you do it the right way,
it does have meaning, It does have teeth, it does
have grit. You can't just get out of it because
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you want to. So whatever they're doing in the National
Football League obviously now has to happen at the college
sports level as well. And so you know, Rick new
ISAA talks about it all the time. You know, I
know they're gonna work on the college football calendar this offseason,
but this is gonna be I think the Okay, this
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crosses the line. There's no way we can keep allowing
this to happen because what does U DUBB have to
do now? Their only choice is, well, now we got
to steal somebody else's quarterback yep. And then so it
just perpetuates the problem. It's just like the coaching situation.
College coaches contracts don't mean anything.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
I think they should.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
You know, I don't think it's that outlandish to say
that you just can't leave for the better job immediately
because it pays you fourteen dollars more. I think that
there should be something there that.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
Should stick to people.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Lane keffn should have to sit out a year if
it's so great that he can coach at LSU. But
that snake doesn't think that anything is sacred.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
He'll will, he will.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
He's like Edward Longshanks of England. I mean, he's the
guy that's standing there at his assistant coach's wedding saying,
I get first rights to sleep with your wife. Just
what we agreed to. It's just the law. Sorry about it, Bud,
I've got first rights, you know. That's that's the way
that he treats everything in sports. He just crushes anything
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that if he can eat it, he's gonna eat it
and that and we've got to stop that mentality otherwise. Yes,
the sport is in trouble. Aaron Taylor said it a
few weeks ago. I agree with it completely. The sport
is in this strange position. It's as popular as ever,
but it's as vulnerable as ever, and so you have
to now care for it in a different way and
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you better get on it now.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
Yeah. Well, I mean it's right.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
It's kind of crazy the way that you just put it,
because it's like this going down is one of the
grosser examples of the of the transfer one because it
kind of hits close to home, and I see how
it affects all my friends that are you dub fans,
like they were just was a January second that he signed, right,
it was like everybody's like rope right on, boom, here
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we go, you know, Heisman candidate. You just kind of
feel like you've got the most important piece locked up
for next year. And that's after the couple months of
wondering if Jedfish was going to be around. So it's like, okay,
that water's under the bridge. Now you've got your quarterback back.
You're like, here we go. Now just add some more
pieces and that and and and you know, improve on
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a nine and four record, and everything's looking like it's
going on the up and up. Now all of a sudden,
it's like what and you find yourself in the midst
of kind of some upheople. The problem with it is,
I don't know for sure how you can. It's always
been that the powers would be the you know, corporate
iHeart has control over us, right like they we sign
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a contract and then if they don't want us anymore,
they can say goodbye.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
Yeah, we can't say that.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
We can't just say well, sorry, I'm I'm under contract,
but that place over there wants me more, so pay
up or I'm leaving. No, you're under contract. So somewhere
along the line it can't be fair and square. It's
not going to be fair and square. Somebody has to
have be the hammer. Somebody has to be the nail.
And unfortunately, at this point, yeah, we are nails for sure, but.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
There's usually some sort of at least small protection. Right,
even if they just let you go, you're going to
get something. It's not if you're done and you don't
get paid again after that day.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Right, there's got to be there's got to be some
more rules put in place. Now we recognize that when
everybody is clamoring you got to pay these guys. It
seems like the NCAAAA just said, okay, here you go
go ahead and pay them. See how if that works
out for you, like they wanted the chaos. Well, now
you're at the point of we're in the midst of
getting ready to watch the semi finals, and there's no
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part of this ugly situation that just came down the
pike yesterday that's going to make me not want to
watch the college football playoffs, and yet it only has
to hit close enough to home for you individually for
some people to say I'm done. I'm not gonna do
it anymore, especially if you were somebody that's been paying
into some collective and now all of a sudden you
feel like your money, like the Troy Aigmann situation, that
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that went out the door, because there's no nothing kind
of reeling that thing in.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Well, I think this had to happen in the sports
where that maybe we had to live with this period
of chaos. But there are some things that are obvious.
Coaches should not be able to leave with multiple years
on their contract without more of a penalty. Players in
the middle of a national championship run. Should not be
forced to make decisions whether or not they're transferring and
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leaving the roster before they even play in the championship
came and this a guy that signs a contract should
mean more than oh, now I've really got negotiating power
because Washington knows me this minimum and yet now I
can start looking around for something better. It has to
mean more than that. So there are some obvious things
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on the table this offseason for college football, and there's
no kicking these things down the road. No, you got
to get addressed them now.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
You have to.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
As soon as the National Championship's over, I want to
hear some legislation because there's no way that you can
keep this going the way that it's going. Right now,
we're gonna be talking about this throughout the show. Let's
find out what's on tap.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
What's on TEP, what's on TEP?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
All right, Yeah, Demon Williams will be a big topic
today and all the mini fingers that come from this story.
Softy's gonna join us today at seven thirty. He's got
some insight that we don't have, so we'll share that
with you. Coming up on the program today. College football
Playoff rezumes tomorrow. It'll be Ole Miss versus Miami and
the Thursday game. The Friday night game will be Indiana
(20:42):
and Oregon. It's the final four of college football and
so the good and the bad of college football being
on display here over the course of this week. National
Football League Wildcard Playoff Round will begin on Saturday with
the Rams at Carolina starting at one thirty. Triple header
on Sunday. There's even a Monday night game. We will
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preview the NFL playoffs and the unique way that we
do it here on Chuck and Buck. A Green Jacket
draft coming your way today at nine o'clock. Seahawks are
on by Boy. That seems like an advantage.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Wait, I don't play for Yeah, I don't even have
to play.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
This week we got advanced.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
We advanced without even playing.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Greg Bell is going to join us and talk about
that at seven oh five. And as I mentioned, Matt
Hasselbeck makes his debut as a team member today at
eight o'clock, so we're fired up for that. Speaking of fire,
John Harball got fired in Baltimore yesterday. We'll discuss that
more here in a matter of minutes. Cracking one again,
that's eight out of nine. There's suddenly just to point
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out of first place in the division, and it's led
by the kids. Berkeley Catton had his first goal of
his career last night and he had two of them.
And we're gonna chat with Berkeley today at nine thirty,
so he'll be joining us on the program. And in
college basketball, you doub will take on Purdue tonight, the
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fifth ranked team in America. The team that started the
year is the preseason number one, and that tip will
take place at five thirty. Coming up next Hardball's Out
in Baltimore. The ripple effects and how it might even
impact the Seahawks. We'll discuss it next on Chuck and
Buck Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Alright, Chuck out,
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Lucky Jacobson and Ashley Ryan with you. So much to
discuss today. We've already discussed the Demand Williams situation here
in Washington for twenty minutes this morning. It will be
probably our number one topic throughout the course of the show.
Today's soft You'll be joining us at seven thirty. If
not that topic, it's obviously Seahawks getting ready for bye
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week and the NFL playoffs, and we got that covered
with Matt Hasselbeck joining us as our inside our expert
our analyst, Special Analyst O Ryan Ealy of the NFL Playoffs,
Seahawks playoffs. He's going to join us starting today and
every Wednesday throughout the postseason at eight o'clock and Greg
Bell will be with us at seven o five this morning.
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But there is another story out there that I think
that it at least deserves a segment of discussion here
on our four hour program, and that is the Ravens
firing John Harbaugh yesterday after eighteen years as head coach.
That's one hell of a run in today by today's
standards in the National Football League. And he was one
of those coaches that I thought would just sort of
(23:39):
be there as long as he wanted to be there.
But the Ravens had a different idea considering how the
season went this past year, and I guess from what
we're hearing, John Harbaugh had a different idea, as it's
felt very mutual. I mean, the headline says he was fired,
but it sounds like Harball in his conversations with the
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Ravens own had pretty much made it clear that maybe
it is time for a reset, maybe it is time
for a change in life, and he's not going to
be out of work long unless he wants to be.
According to Adam Schefter this morning, seven teams have already
contacted John Harbaugh about their head coaching position, and I'd
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be all over that as well. But it might not
stop there. Frankly, I mean Buffalo apparently, if Sean McDermott
doesn't go deep, and I mean as deep as you
can go in the playoffs, he could be out and
John Harball might be interested in Yeah, I'll take a
Josh Allen led team, and then you've got the Dallas
Cowboys situation. I wouldn't be surprised if Jerry Jones wouldn't
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dump Brian Schottenheimer and a heartbeat if John Harball was
willing to come to Dallas. So it might not just
be the candidates out there that have head coaching vacancies.
That's what kind of commodity John Harbaugh would be and
should be on the market in term of whether or
not you think you could you have to fill a
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head coaching vacancy.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Or possibly upgrade one.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
But this is I wouldn't say shocking because we sort
of discussed it yesterday, so it's been out there that
maybe his time has come to an end in Baltimore.
But certainly when the season began, I wouldn't have guessed
John Harball was.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Going to be available on the open market. No, And
it's still shocking to me. I mean when we were
talking about it, I still was like, why would they
move on from him? Now the fact that you were
hearing that it may have been more mutual that he's
kind of like, yeah, I'm kind of ready for a change, right,
I mean, if if he is still wanting to coach,
I mean, I guess there's the possibility that he's kind
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of like, I just need a break from this. You know,
maybe it's just the headache. But this guy, it was,
has been really good. I mean, he's had very good
Hall of Fame good Yeah. And yet I mean we're
talking about this year they missed the playoffs because of
a last second missed field goal by their rookie kicker.
And if they get in, they didn't seem near as
dangerous as they did the last two years when they
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were kind of rolling through and Lamar was healthy and
playing like well, playing at an MVP caliburn winning an MVP.
I think that there's there's room for both of those
things to be possible and true. And yet, if he's
still interested in coaching and he just wants to change
of scenery, yeah, he's going to be very highly coveted.
I mean, there's nobody that's not going to be interested
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in what he brings to the table.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
He just looks like he builds winners.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
There was a meme going around yesterday that was the
field goal there, and it said, Harbaugh fired if it
was miss left, Harbor fired if it was miss right,
and then if it was made, Tomlin fired. Like that
was the implications of that game. But it is interesting. Yeah,
obviously he's going to be in high demand because there's
seven head coaching openings, but one of them's the Ravens.
So obviously, of the seven teams that have contacted him,
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the Ravens aren't one of them. One of them, they
still have a coach.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
That's right, Yeah, that's right. And look, I don't think
that no matter how deeply the Steelers go with Tomlin,
I still think that there's a possibility that he and
the Steelers get together to the end of the year
and Tomlin's like, I think maybe it's time for a chance,
So he might be available as what McDermott might be
available for. It's all said and done, Buffalo might be
done with him, but I'm guessing, considering the success he's had,
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that somebody with one of these vacancies might be interested coach.
So it could be a crazy offseason in terms of
head coaches in the NFL, it typically is anyway, but
this one might be special, and certainly John Harball would
be at the front of the line. For me, he's
such an outlier because we talked about what Arizona's up
against and trying to find a head coach that matches
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the geniuses that they have in the division McDonald, McVeigh
and Shanahan. He doesn't fall unto that category. He actually,
from a personnel standpoint pretty much lets other people do
the personnel. He was a special teams coach. What he
is is just a great organizer of football and a
great organizer of men and a great handler of personalities.
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And I will use the word great because you don't
have an eighteen year run of success like he's had
without having some speciality, without having something really good about
your leadership skills. And I would think every single team
that has a vacancy, for sure, would be interested in
the John Harbaugh business. But there's another side of it.
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Baltimore now as an opening, and clearly there was some
sort of rift between Harball and Lamar. Harbaugh did not
get the Lamar effort and abilities that we've seen showcased
with these two in the past. And when Lamar Jackson
was ever asked about the relationship, the answers weren't nearly
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as defined as they were in the past. So I
don't know who's to blame, and I don't know how
great a rift there was, but obviously there was something
different between Lamar Jackson, John Harbaugh and Baltimore Ravens this
past year. But if you're hiring a head coach, you
got to get somebody. Your first priority is who's going
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to speak best to Lamar Jackson because he is our
number one asset and we need him to play like
he did prior to twenty twenty five. Who are we
going to get to do that? So you either get
like a Harbaugh type, who is that my specialty is
dealing with people and athletes and getting the most out
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of football players and making them part of a team concept.
Or you have to go offense and try to get
Lamar Jackson back on the right track. Well, according to
almost everybody out there, the number one offensive mind target
this offseason is our guy Clint Kubiak because people were
so impressed with what he did with Sam Darnold and
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the Seahawks offense this year. You do have to give
rise to the thought, is Kubiak perhaps a marriage partner
for the Baltimore Ravens If in fact, they want an
offensive guy to come in there and work with their
two greatest assets, Lamar and Henry, and get the kind
of upgrade that the Seahawks enjoyed this past year in Baltimore.
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Because if you can get it in Baltimore with those
two guys, I mean, imagine what you could do offensively.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
It's something that has to be thought about.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Well, yeah, I mean it's this year. Maybe he didn't
get it in large part because Lamar was hurt and
missed some time, and then even when he was out there,
he wasn't playing at the MVP level. But do you
still I mean Derek Henry kind of showed up still
even at the end of this year and didn't look
like he's lost a step or definitely hasn't lost any
power the way that he runs. And so, I mean
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it's going to be a coveted job. I would think
there's some that are not as much coveted jobs. I mean,
you know who wants to inherit the mess that is
the Cleveland Browns that's completely different than the Baltimore Ravens.
I mean, you know, New York Giants is not they
haven't been good, but they feel it feels somewhat better
than the Browns didn't seem as messy. So yeah, I
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think that there's different jobs and different coaches would be
interested in those jobs. This would be one because, like
I said, they still have enough guys. I mean, they
were right there on the verge of winning the division,
you know, albeit not with a great record, but they
were still right on the verge of that ball going
through the uprights and they win the division. And you know,
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to me, I could definitely see how Harbaugh when you
get to where you're making the playoffs just about every
single year and yet you're not getting over the hump. Now,
some of that is when did you play? Oh you
played during the you know, Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid
Because pretty tough to get to the super Bowl when
that team's been around up until this season. But if
you can't figure out a way to get your most
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important player motivated to improve upon what it is like
once you've become an MVP, it's hard to stay MVP ish.
And I think that they if there was a fall off,
he seems like a type of coach I'd be like, no,
we ain't going backwards, man, we still got to keep
we still got to improve because we haven't won the
Super Bowl since whatever year it was, back when he
won it, before Lamar was even in the league. So
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it's an interesting situation. I mean, I think he's going
to be coveted. I think that job that he's leaving
or got fired from is going to be coveted by
a few people as well, and Clint Kubiak could be
the guy.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yeah, well I know this. Kubiak has done interviews all
week long, so he has certainly you know, whether or
not he emerges as a top candidate, whether or not
he interviews will that I couldn't answer you. But I
know that they have arranged, and when I say they,
the Suitors and the Seahawks for Clint Kubiak to do
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multiple interviews for head coaching positions this week because this
is the window, as Greg told us yesterday, because once
he starts preparing for the playoffs, then it's you can't
touch him for a while. So he is doing his
interviews this week during a bye week. Don't know if
people knew, but we earned a bye because we were
the best team in the l Yeah. Yeah, it earns
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you some privileges anyway. By Mode but Clint Kubiak is
using the bye week to do all of this interview stuff,
this preliminary interview stuff with the teams out there with
vacancies that have contacted him, and I know there's at
least two and I think it's a lot more than that.
I think it's around five. Frankly, at least that seems
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to be the rumors out there. So we will monitor it,
we will will report anything we find, and we will
discuss it more with Greg Bell coming up at seven
five here this morning, but coming up next. Yeah, we're
not going to be able to get too far away
from this Demand Williams college football story, so we zoomed
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the conversation next on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Hey,
good morning, it's Chuck Buck and Ashley with you, and yeah,
we're still trying to come to grips as well well
with this whole Demand Williams Junior story. Just update you
in case you are hearing it for the first time.
Demon Williams Junior had signed basically a contract revenue sharing
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contract with you DUBB just a few days ago, and
it was one thing that we thought Jedfish wasn't gonna
have to worry about going forward in this constant state
of turmoil that college football and overturn that college football
finds itself in in this new nil era. But apparently
you can reneg on that contract signing because he has
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he entered the transfer portal yesterday already at an agreement
with LSU. So obviously he was tampered with by Lane Kiffin,
which should cross some sort of boundary and break some
sort of rule. And yet we might not have strict
enough rules and standards set up just yet in this
new era to enact any kind of penalties against Demon Williams,
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Lane Kiffin, LSU, or anyone else. And so it might
be a situation right now until we get those guardrails
up that UDUB just has to figure out a way
to pick up the pieces, find another quarterback, and they'll
probably steal someone from another program in order to satisfy
that need at the quarterback position. It's it's an ugly situation,
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there's no question about it in terms of the player himself.
And we're gonna cover this from a lot of different
angles today. Softie's gonna join us at seven thirty five. Yeah,
I think you are entitled to be angry at Demon
Williams Junior, and I get that maybe legally he has
the right to do this to improve his standing, to
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improve his position for the future, to improve his financial portfolio.
I guess that he can wiggle his way out of contract.
But I do wonder, like, what are we teaching our
young people? I mean, is there any level of teaching commitment.
I don't know of either one of you, and I
know you both have young children. Ashley, you've already started
the process of introducing Palmer to the new Little League
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system that we have, and Bucky, that's in your future
for both your son and daughter as well, trying to
navigate that entire travel sports world. But Cam Cleveland did
this narration today where he said parents are a little
bit responsible for this. If you're the parent that moved
your kid around four times in high school to try
to find the better opportunity and the better more playing time,
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or if you played on sixteen different travel league teams
by the time you were nine years old. He goes
into this sort of editorial about it that we've sort
of created the mindset of a player, like if I'm
not happy right now, I'll just leave, Or if I
think I can be happier. I will just leave. Maybe
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we did skip a generation of teaching commitment, bucky, I
don't know.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
Most certainly is not the same. I mean I can
remember growing up the one thing that I was told
by my parents, all right, so you want to wrestle,
all right? You want to sign up for basketball? Yep,
all right. Once we do it, you're in. There's no quitting.
And that meant obviously not quitting the team and just
not play anymore, but it also would have included it
had there been opportunities. You don't get to just jump
(37:11):
over to another team if you like that one. I
don't care if you got buddies over there. I don't
care if they're winning more, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Isn't that funny that little league had better structure? Like
we had some off season movement in little leagues, but
nobody could move over.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
No, Yeah, I mean it is.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
It's pretty silly that that little league actually is a
little bit more.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
Sound when it comes to that. Now, I don't get
me wrong.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
There is there is places and avenues and ways in
which people should be able to move up in whatever
field or sport or whatever you should be able to
take something and go somewhere else, but there has to
be rules to it. There just has to be otherwise
it's chaos. And you know, I mean, the reason that
our country is is better than some countries out there
(37:54):
is because it's less chaotic. There's more rules that kind
of govern the way you go about things. We complained
sometimes about driving, Well, drive here and then go drive
in Venezuela, for example, not saying that because of what's
recently went on in Venezuela. I've just driven there.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
Chaos. They don't abide by the rules.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
No one does, and when no one does, then you
can't abide by them or you just you're going to
get smashed. And so that's basically where we're at. I
think with college, you know sports right now, is that
you can't really abide by rules, even if you're somebody
that is committed. You know, you wanted to commit. You
genuinely were like, ah, I'm signing with you, dub and
(38:33):
I'm going to purple rain tweets forever for me, and
then all of a sudden they if someone brings someone
in in your position, you waited your turn for a
couple of years, and then the coach brings someone in
through the transfer portal because it helps him keep his
job or maybe move up to a better job if
that's what he wants. Well, then you can't just say, well,
I'm going to stay loyal at my own expense. You
(38:57):
have to then play the game. You got to jump
in the portal and go somewhere that you can play
and not be stepped over by the next best thing.
And so it's a it's an ugly situation. And yet
when it comes down to stuff like this, there's got
to be something. I don't know, if it's bad work
by the lawyers that you dug. Something has to be
where you when you sign this you are now here
at least for this one year. Yeah, but the fact
(39:19):
that that is apparently not the case is just mind
boggling to me. And yet we're gonna have to see
how this ugliness comes out in the wash. But maybe
it's the ugly you know, straw that broke this canvas
necessary evil. Yeah, maybe it's what had to happen in
order to get the somebody to get their arms wrapped
around this thing.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
I mean new Heiseel said the other day. There the
transfer portal is for for two different reasons. Right, You've
got the players that are looking for that opportunity because
maybe they're not getting it at the school that they're at.
And that's what's great about it is you're providing more
opportunity for players.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Not when you're building the whole program around the guys.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Right exactly, it's and it's not it's not for ooh,
but I could get more money if I go here more,
you know, like one hundred five hundred thousand dollars more
than the five million dollars. I mean, that's this is
just abuse of the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah, I agree, And look, demand Williams is a heck
of a player, and I really was excited about him
staying in a Washington uniform for at least one more season.
But and now we're not going to get that, right,
and now I want him to throw thirteen interceptions and
have one touchdown pass correct here for LSU. I mean,
(40:26):
That's where I'm at with Demond Williams Junior at this
point that said this could be the unnecessary evil. I
think that maybe when we look back at this twenty
five years from now, will to discuss the Demond Williams
Junior case, because this feels so egregious on what the
expectation was for NIL that I don't know if the
(40:46):
NCAA is going to have any choice in the matter anymore.
You're gonna have to treat it like the National Football League.
You're going to have to put those rules, those guardrails
in place that we've discussed this hour, and I think
maybe this is the tipping point. It's unfortunately that it
had to happen to the program here in Seattle that
we many of our listeners follow, and we cover here
(41:07):
at KJR. It's unfortunate that we have to be such
an integral part of this story. But I do believe
this might be the case that does get us and
force now the change necessary to make sense of college
football in this new world going forward. All right, Headlines
next plus Greg Bell on KJR
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