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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Byright nine o'clock hour here on this Thursday bye week Thursday,
Mike Sandal is gonna be joining us at nine to
thirty this morning. We're gonna lean into our NFL insider
for this segment. He knows he knows a lot about football.
I guess he's gonna join us at nine to thirty
talk about the schedule for this weekend and probably ask
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him to see our question or two. So Mike Sando
from the Athletic joins us today as he does every
Thursday at nine thirty. We also have one last thing
before the close of the show today, and yes, we
do have another huge topic. We're just coming off of
an hour of twelfth Man Roundtable with Greg and Hugh. Greg,
you're gonna have some specialty shows here over the next
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couple of weeks that we're gonna splash out there for
the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I like specialty shows. You, I really do like specialty shows. Yeah,
dive into some stuff, get in depth. Yeah sure, Greg
will be chomping at the bit to kind of bring
it a show onto the air here.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yeah. I think we should do more specialty shows. Who's
for more special.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I think every show of ours is specialty.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
If you had a specialty, Bucky, that wasn't sports related
at all, and you had to do a show, you
had to talk.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
About it for an hour, what would it be? What
would the topic be?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
You would consider your specialty.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Outdoor stuff, outdoor stuff, fishing and oh is that sports?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Driving a tractor?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Do you have a ruling on that?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Driving a tractor?
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Yeah, driving the tractors, excavating, moving jacobs, moving dirt, spread
and gravel, wearing overalls, getting dirty farmer buck.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Oh, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
There's times I'm at home and I'll be doing something
and then I get like oil on my hands, and
I just love when I just wipe it right on
my pants.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
The type of stuff that would come up on your
specialty show. All right, yeah, now I really want to
hear it.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Well, we've got another big topic going on all week long.
And uh and I'm not so sure we can get
a far away, too far away from the Seahawks at
any given point, too far from the NFL playoffs at
any given point, and too far away from this demand
Williams Junior topic. As a matter of fact, it has
become so big and just specifically talking about how it's
affecting college football, and then you dub and so forth
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and so on that I was planning on doing something
all week long, and that was I came across this
piece of audio from Tom Brady on the Jewel Clatt Show,
and I thought it was very fascinating subject matter considering
the climate of college football right now. And just to
give you a little backdrop, when Tom Brady was at Michigan,
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if you're not aware of this, it wasn't like he
was a surefire starter there either. I mean, everybody knows
the story about seventh round draft pick and scrawny at
the combine and slowest guy they'd ever recorded, and everybody
knows all of that.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Was a light in the world on fire.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, and ends up in New England, got his chance
when Drew Bledsoe went down and in the rest is history.
But people might have forgotten when he was at Michigan,
he wasn't exactly handed the job either. There was a
player by the name of Drew Henson who was this
two sport superstar. He was going to be a major
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league superstar or he was going to be an NFL
superstar quarterback. And so Tom Brady ends up at Michigan
at the exact same time as Drew Henson, and all
Drew Henson's job was trying to figure out while he
was at Michigan, do I want to be a football
player a baseball player? Ended up really not being successful
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at either.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Played against him. Wasn't that good?
Speaker 6 (03:54):
But he was.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
He had great Muppet characters, Yes.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Really good.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Oh Man, his Kermit voice. I mean, it's just the
stuff of legend.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
What Henson's are made of.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Anyway, So Drew Henson's trying to make the rainbow connection.
But he's there at Michigan, and so he's the star.
He's the star on campus, and people were actually angry
that how would you even consider this Tom Brady because
they'd heard so much about Drew Henson. He was supposed
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to walk on water, lean tall buildings in a single bound,
all of this stuff. And so Tom Brady ended up
starting more at Michigan than Drew Henson. That was his
first challenge to prove himself. Probably why he got such
a big chip on his shoulder, but that was the
first challenge to try to prove himself, and he ended
up being a very good, very successful quarterback at the
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college level. But Joe Klatt has him on the show
the other day and he asks him a question about Well,
I'll let him set it up, but it was about
had you had the rules that they have today? You
stuck it out at Michigan, But would you have if
you had the rules you have today. Here's Joel and
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the specific question he asked Tom Brady.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Would Tom Brady have finished his career at Michigan if
the rules were the same then as they are now.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
It's such a hypothetical situation. The only thing I could
answer is to say that, based on what my experience was,
I wouldn't want it any other way. My college experience
was very challenging. It was very competitive. The lessons I
learned in college, certainly about competition, those traits transformed my
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life as a professional. I was ready to compete against
anybody because the competition in college toughened me up so
much that I had a self belief and self confidence
in myself that whatever was I was faced, I could
overcome that. And I think if we take that away
from a young student athlete, to say, you know what,
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I know.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
It's tough to compete, but what are we gonna do?
Speaker 7 (06:02):
Before you have to compete, We're actually gonna put you
somewhere else so that you don't have to compete. That
is absolutely the wrong thing to do to a young child.
And I would challenge all the coaches and all the parents,
they're the ones that have to guide these kids. It's
you can't expect a seventeen or eighteen year old to
make these great decisions. They're young, they don't have life experience.
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It should be the parents. Be a good parent, teach
your kid the right values. What's going to sustain them
in their careers over a period of time, whether it's football,
or whether it's business. So, whether it's teaching, or law
school or medical school or a trade, whatever you want
to do, you're gonna have to go through hard things
in your life. You're gonna have to make tough choices.
And the value isn't always about the last dollar. So
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I think all these things that are happening in college sports,
we're prioritizing the wrong things. We're valuing the wrong things.
And I'm not saying it's not important. It's one of
ten things that are important. Yeah, And certainly to me,
it's not the most important. Kids do go through that
the right way. They're actually learning the right values. And
when you have the right values in life, that's going
to sustain you as you move on through the.
Speaker 8 (07:08):
Rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Tom Brady, this is what we used to teach, you know,
this was the stop whining, get better speech that we
all used to hear. How did we get to the
point in twenty twenty six where oh, things are a
little difficult, little challenging, Well you need to go where
they're less challenging. What happened to that? Where did it go?
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I mean, even with nil, what happened to that? Even
if you had nil? I mean, it had to have
been fostered somewhere. I don't or I don't know if
the message got changed, got lost, or what the case
may be. But it just feels to me like nobody.
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We don't have a kid. We don't have a twenty
year old left that wants to accept what the Goat
just said about why he became successful. That is the Goat,
the undisputed greatest football player of all time with seventh
round physical talent. If you're not listening to him, if
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you're not listening to that, if we're not forget that,
forget the listening. If we're not teaching that everywhere parents, coaches,
If that's not the message that we're sending that, Oh
wait a minute, your second on the depth chart, maybe
work harder than the guy who's first in the depth chart.
Maybe you'll learn better lessons that help you become a
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better player, a better person. And if sports doesn't work out,
guess what this life out here it's all about competition too.
I mean, it doesn't go away that girl that you
want to see, you want to date, you want to marry,
somebody else wants to d or two in marrier. Everything
everywhere you turn is about competition. How did we get
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to the point, Bucky, where it's like, oh, things are challenging,
Well leave and go somewhere else and then it'll be
less challenging for you. That's the path that you need.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I don't know exactly when it happened, but it wasn't
too terribly long ago. Probably was it was, you know,
the end of our parents' generation or the beginning of
our generation when it came to parenting. Where somewhere it
got lost in the mix of when you're parenting your
kid and you're preparing them to be good members of
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society where that are tough enough to handle life. Because
life ain't fair. You don't always do for them what
is easiest for them. You don't always conform to what
they think they need. Right, Well, the teacher didn't like me, Well,
it used to be like my parents would have went
in and talked to the teacher and came out and said, yeah, sorry,
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she knows what she's talking about.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Ye're nine.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
How about you just shut up, do what you're told
and get back to work. You know, it would have
been more. There was more times that those in charge,
the adults, would make the child, the kid kind of
pull themselves up by the bootstraps and get better, like
you need to do more. And yet somewhere along the
line it became a I want to protect my kid
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from failure. Whereas failures where you learn the most through
through trying, trying and you don't succeed, Well, what do
I need to change? Not trying you don't succeed. I'll
just move somewhere. I'll just go somewhere else. I will
just like quit that challenge and take on something else.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I know I'm a lot better than my bad backup
at this school, so I don't work as hard.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, and so I don't know exactly how it happened.
It definitely happened in homes, and then that trickled into
the same people that were teaching at homes. A lot
of them were coaching or they were pushed those that
didn't coach that way that coach day, you ain't getting
anything given to you here. When I was coaching youth baseball,
I would have a dad come in and be like,
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so we're thinking about you know, you offered him a
spot on your team. Is he he's going to be
the shortstop right, and he'll be hitting third, I would
imagine third or fourth.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Well, we'll see. I mean I offered.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Him a spot on the team because he's athletic enough
and I think he can play, and he's one of
the best fourteen kids that I had at tryouts. But
you're you're asking for a guarantee of where he's hitting
the lineup. He doesn't have a guarantee. He's gonna have
to earn it. Well, there's a whole bunch of dads like, well,
that's not good. That's not going to cut it for me,
except I have this coach over here, in this coach
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of here, that'll guarantee that because they want his four
thousand dollars is what it is, and they will probably
do it. And and then you just taught the parent that, yep,
I get what I want when I play hardball.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
And then you.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Taught the kid that you're not going to have to
earn anything. I learn it for you through negotiations and conversations.
You're not gonna have to go out and prove it.
And to me, that's just the wrong thing to do,
because at some point in time, every single player of
a sport is going to stumble into a situation where
mommy and daddy didn't get to pave it as a
yellow brick road. It's a bumpy ass road. And what
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are you gonna do? Stop and look around and cry
mommy daddy helped me. No, it's not going to work
like great. There's times that I've been in my professional
life after baseball, and.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
I've been looking around like, what in the hell am
I going to do?
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Well?
Speaker 4 (12:34):
I can't go cry to mom. She can't fix it.
It's the real world now. So to me, it's it's
a fine line as a parent. Don't get me wrong,
I'm getting ready.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
For my kids to join sports and all this whole stuff,
and I don't know how the hell I'm.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Going to end.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
And I'm not here to say that there aren't bad
teachers out there that sure don't want your kid DA
or Oh, there are plenty of bad coaches out there
that you don't want your kid TOD. But I'll tell
you the success story from my hometown. Jason Isringhausen is
the only player from my hometown that made it to
the majors. And he's a Saint Louis Cardinal Hall of Famer.
He had over three hundred saves in his career. He
didn't make our starting rotation, and we did not have
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good coaching in high school. It just didn't small town.
That's whoever wanted to pretty much volunteer. I think coach
Seemer got like twenty five hundred dollars, A nice guy,
great math teacher. Wasn't much of a baseball coach, I'll
say that. And yet here's here's is he and he
was a little undersized, but he had to battle to
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try to get into the starting rotation his entire time
in high school and finally did his senior year I'm
from a town of fifteen hundred people, and our only
major league pitcher from my hometown took till his senior
year in high school to get into and he still
wasn't the ace he wont he won of the top two.
It took him till his senior year to get there
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with bad coaching.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
That's exactly what mine was.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, and son, and then he he because he got
to teach that nothing's going to be you're hitting ninth
and you're playing third base because there are too many
guys that are better than you ahead of you. Now
he grew, his arm, got livelier, and all that stuff,
but nonetheless, the work ethic that he taught to try
to chase us down yep, helped pave the way to
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the major leagues for him where none of the rest
of us made it.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
When his body caught up, When he all of a
sudden matured and his body caught up, the work ethic
didn't go away. So now you have the same physical tools,
maybe a little bit more, but less than some of
the guys that were probably great at that young age,
but they didn't have the work ethic. So when his
body caught up, the work ethic then propelled him past
those that were ahead of him for his entire entire youth.
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That's the exact same thing that happened to me. And
it's something that when my mom said, don't get better,
get better, it was what I kind of wanted. A
pat on the head or you know, pinch my cheek
and tell me it's going to be okay, and I'll
figure out a way to help you out. That is
just not the way that most people parented back in
the day, and now you do. And I get why
you do it because you want to protect your kids,
but you're really not protecting them by not letting them fail.
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You're not protected. You're setting them up for a bigger
failure down the road. I don't want my first failure
for my kid to be when he's twenty one or
twenty five, because then he's not going to know how
to handle it, and it's going to be a bigger
failure because life is bigger. Then he's going to have
failures now and next year, in the following year, and
it's not going to be fun to watch, but he's
going to do it.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
I'm not going to protect him from it, nor am
I going to do with my daughter.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
When I was playing water polo, I was definitely not
the fastest swimmer on the team, and I didn't like swimming.
But then they said, oh, here's water polo and we've
got this new coach. You guys should try it. I
was like, this thing is hard. I can't keep my
head above water. So I just worked and worked and worked,
and then I was like, oh, I kind of like
this sport.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
This is pretty fun. I'm going to try to be
better at it.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
And I'll never forget having a conversation with my coach
one day saying, Hey, do you think I could ever
play whole set, which is like the position in the
middle in front of the goal, in the middle of
the pool. The ball goes in and out of the
whole set position and you're kind of in.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Charge and you're the Tom Brady of them. K Yeah, And.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
He looked at me and he said, not as long
as Ashley Jacobs lives on Mercer Island.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
And I went home and I was.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Like, hmm, all right, well, I guess I've got a challenge.
And every night I sat there with a water pole
ball in my hand. I got better so that I
could be better at handling the ball, and every day
I worked harder in practice, and then I was the
starting hole set. And I'll never forget him telling me
that I couldn't do something because somebody else. And she
was a great water polo player, she's a great friend.
But it turned out she was actually also really good
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at a different position where her speed could come into
You know, you just have to take these things, and
you know we've been we passed that on to Palmer
all the time. You don't have You're not gonna be
the fastest kid out there, but you should be the
one that works the hardest. And she's already had an
experience with, you know, trying o for a select team
and not making it. And I told her that was
the most valuable thing that ever could have happened to her,
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because she now has already, at this was at age nine,
experience not making a team while all her friends have
made the teams they've tried out for, so one day
when they get to try out to a team and
they don't make it, it's gonna be that much harder
because they've never done it before.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Look, and I don't want anybody to sound funny, done it.
Believe me, I was ahead of all of you listening
on wanting some sort of payment to players and to
get to this world, and I didn't know what to
expect once we got there. So I'm not sitting here
saying that you can't ever transfer, or that you know
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the changes that changes weren't. Believe me. I've been all
about making changes to college athletics to get it to
a better place. But that doesn't come at the sacrifice
of hill. If you've got some if you've got some
investment in the process, that you just bail at the
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first sign of it getting difficult, or you just jump
at the first opportunity to make one dollar more. Want
to impress me, Desmond Williams junior transfer to Texas beat
out arch manning the starting job at that ain't happening,
I know, but you see why I'm exaggerating for emphasis.
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But just this, this entire we've turned it into just hey,
if it's getting difficult, find a place that it's easier.
And I don't think that has ever worked in the
history of anything in making you better, tougher, grittier, and
ultimately more successful.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
That you're right one hundred percent, And yet it sucks
to say this the mark when we need to get
out here, but there there is a part of it
where when the entire world is playing that game, if
you don't participate in it at all, you could just
end up sitting on the sideline. When we're taking it
down to the transfer part of college football, if you
say I'm signing with you dub and I am purple
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Rain and tell my dying days and you sit your
freshman year, you red shirt, and then the freshman next
one you read shirt. If they every single year bring
in somebody in front of you and you basically because
of your intakes for it. You just said, I am
I'm not going to leave because my commitment. My parents
raised me that when I signed my letter from tent
I'm a Husky. And you never get to see the
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playing field, but you could have went somewhere and played.
Then there's a reason for it. But they get the greedy.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Side of it.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
You got something good going and you're like, I'm just
gonna go here because I get a couple extra bucks.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
That's wrong.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I like the rules for just what you're saying. That
opportunity like if I'm just continuously getting blocked I can't
get to the top, and I think this is stole,
this is halting my development. But when you're already want
you're already clearing away the number one quarterback on the
depth chart, and you're being having your ass kissed every
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day and you're getting millions of dollars and treated. And
this is not just Demondo Lives. This is going on everywhere,
and it's you still can't be happy because there might
be four teen more dollars and a couch cushion and Louisiana.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I mean that's pathetic. I mean that's that's not growth.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Because there's there's a lot of people out there that
want to just be the richest, not the best.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
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Speaker 4 (20:25):
Here's Chuck and Bud.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
All Right, Chuck Powell, Bucky Jacobson, and Ashley Ryan here
on a Thursday. INFL playoffs get started this week and
joining us now is our NFL insider from the athletic.
No one in the world I think likes football more
than this guy. Mike Sando is with us right here
on Chuck Powell, Chuck and Buck Sports Radio ninety three
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point three kJ R f M. Good morning, man, I'm
just all botching this. Good morning, Mike, Good morning. I
know it could be nerve.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
I can to speak with an analyst of my stature.
Just calm down. You know, your first week in the business.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
So yeah, did you ever like write down a word
and you start misspelling it and then you can't get
back on track with.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
The words every other word?
Speaker 8 (21:15):
Hey, hey, I used to have words are named that
I would I would type it wrong every time, like
you know, like I we get through if I wasn't
careful about it. So yeah, I know exactly what you're
talking about.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I almost called him, Powell. I almost called you, coach.
I don't know what happened right there.
Speaker 8 (21:32):
We haven't had a first round by around here in
a long time, okay, So we're just kind of getting
back into what it's like to be a real market.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
How big of an advantage do you think it is
this particular year for the Seahawks to have that buy
and to have home field advantage. I think it's huge.
Speaker 8 (21:49):
I don't know about compared to other years. I feel
like it, Uh, maybe there's utter years where it we
were even more advantageous if there were utter you know,
really great teams. I don't feel like there's a bunch
of great teams. There's a bunch of good teams in
the NFC. But I think people are going to underrate
how big of an advantage this is. And that's because
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we haven't had a real playoff game with our good
Seahawk team in a long time now. They had a
COVID game, but that wasn't a real good team. I
just mean when they've been the number one seed here.
I think it's happened three times that I can remember
last twenty years, and they've gone to the super Bowl
every time, and it's been a differentiating place to be.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Now.
Speaker 8 (22:31):
I know they've had some issues at home and they've
been better on the road, but I think they've had
now two seasons with Mike McDonald to figure out okay,
you know, is it harder to communicate whatever?
Speaker 4 (22:43):
On defense.
Speaker 8 (22:45):
I think they're just in prime position to go to
the super Bowl this year with this opportunity with this defense,
with this special teams, and with this offense that you know,
it hasn't had a consistent identity all the way through,
But I feel pretty good about it.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Yeah, I'm gonna ask something and I think that we
can go ahead.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
I will.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I'm gonna go ahead and just personally right off the Panthers,
I think, be sure they just beat the Rams, you know,
a month or so ago, and so yes, it's possible
that they could do it, But I don't think they're
going to win that game. I think that's one team
that even their ceiling isn't high enough to probably win
the Super Bowl. I'm wondering for you, which team has
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the highest ceiling and the highest floor out of the
teams in the NFC.
Speaker 8 (23:32):
Highest ceiling, highest floor, Well, I mean I think the
Seahawks do. I put the seas on the top of that.
I think their floor is losing by two points when
their quarterback throws four interceptions against the other best.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Team in the league.
Speaker 8 (23:47):
That's a really high floor. Okay, that's a super high floor.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
You know, you could argue that the Rams.
Speaker 8 (23:56):
Possibly have had a higher ceiling just because you know
their offense has been really can be really great. I
think their quarterback is probably the best quarterback of anyone
in the NFC and probably maybe even in the league.
I know Drake May's had a great year, but if
you had to count on somebody, right, so that's probably
a team that you could argue maybe has a higher ceiling.
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I just think that they have taken a little step
back here and they have some question marks that Seattle
doesn't have. So, you know, I think the the you know,
the the Eagles are have potentially a high floor. I mean,
they're sort of having a bad year for them and
they're eleven and six. That's a pretty high floor, right,
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So you know, those are probably some teams there that,
you know, they're all a little bit different, but I
think the floor is lower for Chicago, It's very low
for Carolina. Green Bay is a little bit harder to
tell in San Francisco too, just because they have injuries.
They have key players missing, so it's kind of hard
to know.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Mike Sander was with us, our NFL insider from the
Athletics been joining us at this time every Thursday to
talk NFL football playoffs getting started. Of course, this Saturday
afternoon with the Panthers and the Rams. Of course they
recede in the NFL playoffs. That's different from most leagues.
They do receed in the NFL playoffs. So what would
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green Bay win over Chicago do to shake up the
conference tournament? And do you think what kind of chance
do you give them of pulling that off?
Speaker 8 (25:32):
I give them a good chance. Familiarity in the division.
I think the Bears have played with Fire a lot
this year. You know, they they've trailed in most of
their games and won most of those, and that's just
a hard formula. They beat the Packers, but they needed
the Packers turned it over inside the five yard line.
I think they was an onside kick recovery, which I
was joking with my Packer fans son. Of course that'll
never happen again with the Packers, but it happens all
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the time. But still weird things had to happen. So
I think there's a decent chance. And green Bay's in
the game, I believe. I think I saw that they
were favored by a point and a half when I
looked yesterday, So yes, I actually think that would be
a I think that would be just fine with Seattle
to get the number seven seed right coming yeah, yeah,
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you know, and also they could then play that card
of hey, the Packers pushed them all over the field
the last season to May they rushed for two undred
yards or something. You know, it'd be give Seattle a
seventh seed that they would really have something to prove against.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
On the AFC side of things, is this the year
that Josh Allen has to get it done with Mahomes
and I guess Burrow whoever else has been in his
way of getting to the big game. They got to
get it done this year or is his coach going
to be on the out? Well that could happen.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
I do think that we have some real coaching As
I look at the AFC, I feel like Pittsburgh and
Buffalo are two places where coach has been there a
long time. They haven't really gotten you know, punched through
and so a bad result, you know, without winning a
playoff game this year, if they were embarrassed or something,
that wouldn't surprise me if there was some kind of
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a change there. Not predicting it, but wouldn't be surprised
by it. So I do think there's a you know,
a lot of stake. I don't really feel like I
feel like Josh Allen's going to be good for a
really long time. And it's hard to predict a year
for year when it might be a year, maybe it's
this year, maybe they get it done. But I think
he's going to be in championship games in the future,
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whether or not Sean mcnermack gets fired or whether or
not they disappoint this year. I think he's too good
and should be good for a long time and we'll
have a better chance.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Your reaction to Harball being fired, McDaniel being fired today
and their next job in the NFL okay.
Speaker 8 (27:47):
So the Miami one's interesting because they waited a little while,
and if you noticed, when John Harbob was fired, the
news came out that he's not going to do interviews
till next week. So that's why I wonder if any
of these teams in the playoffs could open to Harbobby
waiting to see that. McDaniel, to me, would be a
great offensive coordinator somewhere. Philly's going to be looking for one.
I think that could be very interesting for them.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
It would be.
Speaker 8 (28:13):
I don't know if if Kubik is going to get
a head coaching job this year now we'll see, but
he's going to be playing deep into the playoffs. And
I don't know that people are looking at Seattle saying, hey,
superstar offensive coordinator is the reason why they're there, right.
I think they're saying, hey, this, this looks like a
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good fit, and he's done a nice job. I don't
think he's an automatic get a job guy. I don't
think he's necessarily going to go in everywhere and just
wow everybody. Right, So, because personality wise he's a he's
a little bit more even keeled. I don't think he's
just going to go in there and be super dynamic
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and win it over. I think he'll get a head
coaching job eventually through the same success. And so I
don't know that I'm predicting for that to happen for
him this year, especially with them, Like I said, I
think they're going to go a super Bowl. I think
they were probably gonna win the Super Bowl this year.
That's how I feel about him and Will everything could
be filled by them. So Mike McDaniel though, would be
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a great Obviously, he'd be a great replacement for Kubiek
if he were to get a head coaching job. I
think he'd be a great fit potentially in Philly, and
it would be hilarious because Vic Fangio's there and they
supposedly didn't get along in Miami. There would be more
drama inside the inside the Eagles, which they seem to love.
So McDaniel would be a very hot oc type of
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a choice. I don't think he gets a head coaching.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Job right away. Agreed.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
All right, So if I and I know this is
a nightmare for you, I mean, you'd probably rather have
three bears break into your house and attack you while
you're sleeping, then for me to say, you can only
watch one football game this weekend. But that's what I'm
going to challenge you with. You can only watch one
of the games this weekend. What's the one Mike Sando chooses.
Speaker 8 (30:04):
I think it's really easy for me. I think the
Bills Jaguars game is the most interesting game.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
I agree.
Speaker 8 (30:09):
I think it's just fascinating to see what the Jaguars
are to see. I think the Bills are favored in
that game, aren't they? I think I think I think
I saw that. I need to double check it in
front of me. Yeah, I think that's true.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
One.
Speaker 8 (30:24):
Yeah, for the I don't know for the Billy the
Jars Jaguars. Yeah, so that game is so if I'm
going to rank the games, you didn't ask me this,
but let's rank again. Bills Jaguars are number one for
me to watch. Number two is Packers Bears because of
the tradition, the stakes. They're talking about, the floor's contract.
There's something going on there, isn't there. I mean, that's
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interesting to me. Then I'm gonna say it is the
forty nine Ers Eagles just hey, there's drama around the Eagles.
The forty nine Ers are a house money team. They're
kind of hey, could they go and do it? I
think Then it's Houston and Pittsburgh for me is interesting
because of, hey, is Tomlin?
Speaker 4 (31:05):
What's that going to look like? Rogers?
Speaker 8 (31:06):
Is Rogers gonna get sacked forty seven times by that front?
You know, I'll kind of want to see what goes
on there. And then I think it's Chargers and Patriots
because of you know, Justin Herbert has been an interesting
guy in the playoffs and the expectations are kind of off.
Now this year you got Harbaugh as a coach. Jim,
what are the Patriots made of? I think that's fun.
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And then the Rams Panthers is just kind of my
last one. But he is still interesting. I think it's
still compelling because the Panthers beat him.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
All Right, I'm gonna line this out. I mean, we're
not the biggest gamblers in the world, but we probably should.
I know a lot of people out there are. So
Houston's a two and a half point favorite, New England's
a three and a half point favorite, Buffalo is a
one and a half point favorite, Green Bay, you were right,
a one and a half point favorite, and the Rams
are a ten point favorite.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
So here's what you do if you want to lose
your money. Here's Sandos picks. Okay, take Carolina in the
and a half points. Okay, if I would probably take
Chicago and take the one and a half, I'm a
little nervous. I take the Jaguars and I take the
one and a half. I would take the forty Niners
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and take four and a half. I would take the
Patriots and give three and a half.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
And I would take the.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
Texans and give three. So if we write those down,
let's just see how Okay, I worry what people do,
but that's kind of I feel I agree with about
half of that.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
That's good.
Speaker 8 (32:32):
That really helps your That that tells your listeners, don't
bet on anything, it'll be the smartest.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
All right, Well, enjoy it all. We'll talk to you
next week.
Speaker 8 (32:40):
All right, Okay, we'll see it all right.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
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get us going.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I was just wanting to I want to say real
quick too. We had some textures after we had our
conversation about money and kids moving and money in the
drugs and whatnot and.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Things in the money, the money and the drugs.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Yeah, yeah, we weren't talking about the drugs, just the money.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
The drugs whole different ball game. You transfer for those
but you stay. You don't just transfer for money.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
I know.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
It was like somebody was was bringing up the last
point that I brought up, poor timing right at the
end of the segment of there's a time when it's okay,
and and yet that that of me is where the
cloud or the snowball rolling downhill, the out of control,
the lack of guardrails. That's where all this is kind
of went awry for me. With the transfer portal, the
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timing of that, obviously I don't think is right. And
then the the where they're trying to get some restraint
on how you're going, how much you can spend, so
it isn't just some oil tycoon and Texas can just
say here, here's a billion.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Dollars and go get me a championship.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
We don't want that money and nope, nope, drugs and
money that's not in Texas as much.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
That's California. The money and the drugs. Yep, that's it
really does.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
But to me, I don't know, this doesn't seem like
a It doesn't seem like an outside the box, you
know how. Am I not one that's going to sit
and try to come up with some hot take this
is just a plain and symbol. There is a little
bit of loyalty. There's a lot of loyalty that's been lost,
and just having a little bit is beneficial. Your word
something should mean something. That said, there's also situations, different
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situations for different people that at times you don't necessary.
It's not taking the easy way out. It's just there
is a better avenue to take playing and simple. And
that's again, this is a lot of it does not
pertain to Demon Williams. You were the clear cut number
one guy. You were gonna make four million bucks here.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
That John Brady comment that we played was before Demon Williams.
That was just talking about the climate of college football specifically,
and whether or not Tom Brady thought that he would
transfer since he was having to battle it out with
Drew ensign for starting time while he was at Michigan,
if he would have transferred with the same rules. So yeah,
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that's just about the climate and the culture of college athletics.
I'm glad, Just for the record, I'm glad the rules
are looser. There are plenty of situations where somebody, hey,
I've got a better opportunity, but I just making it
as easy as they make it and now we have
rules in place that apparently don't even have to be followed.
There was the big story that we did about out
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there was going to be a CAP twenty and a
half million. Well where did that go? And that all
nil moneys had to be passed and funneled through this
system and making sure that they were valid, and what
happened with that? We were supposed to have some checks
and balances here and they don't seem to exist, and
the fact that people are running amuck with them. Where
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any kind of I mean, what happened to demand Williams
as an example that made him say, after signing that
five days ago, you know what, I shouldn't have done that.
There's got to be a better thing out there for me.
I'm gonna go look for one, but you just signed.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
How do we get to that point? I don't understand it, Ashley?
What you one last thing?
Speaker 6 (36:50):
Well, this also coming from the text line, we actually
got listening at Texas and said, I've been waiting all
day for the keys to victory this weekend.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Oh was an l O l A.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
But I just wanted to let them know I've got
a key. Yeah, it's gonna Yeah. Key to victory is
having a good glass of whatever it is you'd like
to drink, a comfortable couch, and a good autumn to.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Kick your feet up on w R. There three keys
to a certain victory, certain victory.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
Right, Well, I think you nailed it.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
I think I did. I think I did.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
Maybe you know a couple of snacks too, Yeah, you
gotta have some snacks, make a dip.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I think that's going to get the Seahawks through to
the next round.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
I think they're gonna get through the next round.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
I think that you have to do those for them
to get through. I think those could they could turn
out to be winners.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
I think those are requirements.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
My key for the Seahawks this week is just to
make sure that I wake up every day.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Yeah, that's important to.
Speaker 6 (37:53):
Be the key.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
They won't even care if you could.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
You could never wake up again. They're still not going
to lose this weekend. Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
We did.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
Also just see Demon, Williams agent sent out a tweet
he has made the decision to end his representation effective immediately,
due to philosophical differences. Demon is an incredible talent. We
wish him and his family the best in their future endeavors.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Well, it certainly made them look bad. They were scrambling too.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
They had apparently nothing to do it, and he did
it all behind their back.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
My one last thing Mike McDaniel was fire. We didn't
spend much time on it because it happened during the
roundtable and we were just talking about all things Seahawks.
So he is out as head coach of the Miami Dolphins.
I've kind of felt the writing was on the wall,
and then toward the end of the season they started
acting like they wanted him back. None of it made sense.
This actually finally does make sense. I think he would
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be a heck of an offensive coordinator. He's very likable.
I don't think he's just I just don't think he's
the alpha male. I don't think he's the leader of men.
Every game he has a former teammate run over and
hug him, So there's a very good likability about him.
He's obviously very clever offensive mind. I'm not sure about
his press conferences and what was going on.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
He could have a drug problem.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
I'm not sure, but I don't know. Would it be
more confusing or less confusing. If McDaniel and McDonald were
on the same staff because everybody screws them up whenever
they talk about that.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Would be a good thing. So either way you say it,
you're right.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
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