It was a rough night at the ballpark! The Mariners got blown out by the potent Toronto offense in a 13-4 loss and it’s on to game 4 with a 2-1 series lead. Is our confidence rattled? No way, no one should have expected that Toronto was going to roll over. :30- Mariners Morning After Things started great for the Mariners as Julio got the team out to a 2-0 lead in the 1st, but George Kirby will be the first to tell you, he just didn’t have it last night and Toronto jumped on it. :45- The Seahawks don’t play until Monday when they face the Texans and the biggest story of this Houston team is their defense.
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Speaker 1 (01:07):
Hey, good morning, Welcome into the Thursday edition of Chuck
and Buck in the Morning Sports Radio ninety three point
three kJ R FM. My name is Chuck Powell, former
Mariner Bucky Jacobson us here Ashley Ryan as well as
we roll out the Thursday edition of our radio show,
and we do so without celebration. Here today, as we're
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coming off a loss last night in the American League
Championship Series thirteen to four, the final score. The Blue
Jays Bats finally showed up in the series. We'll be
talking about it quite a bit throughout the course of
our broadcast Morning with You, but we'll sprinkle in some
other things as well as So we we do have
four hours together, we might as well really get to
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know each other day.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
That's great. Yeah, nice in that hoodie sweatshirt you got on.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Oh, we thank you very much. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you
look warm, looks like you should be warmer. That's probably true.
That much I do know about her. I mean, today's
about getting to know each other better. But yeah, she's
the coldest person ever. Yeah, and you're the warmest. Yeah,
I'm I'm hot.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
I wouldn't mind if you gave me some of that.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
I could show you the way. It's just extra fat,
that's all you need.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, And it's not just about the three of us.
I want to get to know all of our listeners
better today as we you know, heal from a loss
last night. For example, Kevin, you know who I'm you
know I'm talking to Kevin. Yeah, when did you lose
your virginity. I've been wondering that for a long time. Question. Yeah, Margaret,
you can hear me, Margaret. Yeah, well, how many taxes did.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
You not report?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
How much of your income did you not.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
The area?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, well I don't know. These are just things i'd
like to know about our listeners.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah. I think it's a great idea.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Just go ahead, you can text us, you can hit
the talk back by let us know the laws you've broken,
and we will not report you.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I like to start all like personal relationships, with knowing
your deepest, darkest secret, and then I can judge you
going forward.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, yeah, agree, that's why I agree.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
I think that's a good way to start. You don't
mean to unfold after time.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, a lot of first dates, just start and write
that way in my lifetime.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
Just down what's your Social Security member? Just so I
can get an idea of your financial background.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Not a lot of second dates, as it turns out, surprising. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
a lot of first law Yeah, definitely. Well, good morning.
We have to have a little bit of fun, because
that wasn't too much fun last night. I mean it
started great. Julio Rodriguez, it's the two run Homer. It
was undeniable that all the concern about whether or not
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Toronto Canada Blue Jays We're going to take over our stadium,
that didn't even come close to happening. I mean, it
was a little tricky visually to kind of figure out
how many Blue Jays fans are here, because I did
spend some time doing that. I even took a picture
of a Blue Jays family and was going to tweet
out something about could the security please escort these people
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out of here? And they were such a sweet family,
like a mom and dad and two little kids, and
they couldn't wait. And I was about ready to plan
a weapon on them.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Good, Yeah, that would have been a good idea. Yeah,
and then call security and uh and yeah, I just
decided not to go there. And it's a good thing
I did, because they hardly made a ripple last night.
Mariner fans were just uh, they were outstanding again last
night for as long as they could be. Yea, at
some point the game gets so lopsided it's hard to
you know, it's hard to keep that energy up, understandably,
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But yeah, that was not an issue last night. So
it got off to such a great start the national
anthem and the old Canada song. Those triplets knocked that
out of the park. So there was like a really
good vibe there for a while.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for a while.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Yeah, I mean it was I was a little I
wasn't overly concerned about them coming in. I kind of
thought there's gonna be some Blue Jays fans there, and
you're right, it's hard to tell because of their royal
blue and now we have the city connects and so
it just kind of but when they were announcing the
lineups and the rosters, it was abundantly clear that they
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were a gigantic minority and and and they showed up.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I mean, I'll say.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Even even though the game got completely out of hand
when we went when a Rosarina and col hit those homers.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
They blew up again. The crowd sat down in.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
The middle innings when they were giving up crooked number
after crooked number, where they hadn't basically sat down since Friday.
I mean, I don't think really, literally anyone in Seattle
had sat down since last Friday. So uh, they did.
Finally the legs got tired and what they were watching
wasn't They weren't getting a whole lot to cheer about,
and so it made sense where it kind of quieted down,
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but they still you could tell that they were they
were hyped up.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
I mean even like eighth or ninth inning.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
There was people above the hit it here, Cafe Hip
Hip hoor hey man, I'm.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Still trying to cheer and yeah, like the city's.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
String down nine runs, they still were bringing it. Yeah,
they were bringing it, that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Yeah, the team not so much. But that's the way
that it happens. Sometimes you're going up against a good
team and George made some mistakes and they pay.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
He had to pay for it.
Speaker 7 (06:23):
Well.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
And I don't think anyone thought that like Toronto was
just gonna roll over and die. And I think anyone
I didn't think it was going to be a sweep
by any means. So I didn't leave that game thinking
that's the worst thing. I mean I left I was like,
well that was disappointing. Okay, on to the next one.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, And that feeling carried over into our post game
show last night. I mean, Jimmy's remained pretty packed. You know,
a game got over at eight thirty ish, eight twenty ish,
So it's not like it was all that late. But
Jimmy's remained pretty packed throughout the our entire post game
show last night, probably because of Bucky and I. Yeah,
people can't get enough of us, Yeah for sure, But
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it remained and there was there was no feeling. I mean,
there was even a member of the Mariners organization we
won't say any names. So it was there, you know,
smiling and hanging out with friends and.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Having a beer.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
So nobody took it too seriously. And look, a lot
of fan bases do take a loss, take it a
little too far, you know, and certainly Seattle fan bases
have been known to do that. We've already had this
fan base, half of it, give up on the postseason
twice this postseason already.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
See how many people thought it was over after we
lost to Detroit in game one.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Game one and Game four. Yeah, and so, but there
wasn't any of that. Now that comes with a two
two game cushion, certainly, and taking both of those in Toronto,
but everybody that we chatted with it came over and
talked to us, and certainly the vibe in the bar
was we're good, We're all right, and I do think
we're good and I do think we're all right, and
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I still think there's a very good chance that we
don't go back to Canada and we end up taking
this thing in five. But obviously, to Ashley's point, uh,
Toronto wasn't gonna roll over. They obviously have some talent.
George wasn't hitting his spots, and this is just the
lineup to take advantage of that. You're not gonna hit
your spots against the Toronto Blue Jays. They're gonna score
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double figures against you.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Yeah, yeah, I mean they have they have some really
talented hitters. And they while they cooled off, Bryce cooled
him off, and and for the most part, the pitching
staff cooled him off in Game two two didn't necessarily
let him get off the off the mat against George.
It just is a it's a recipe for disaster if
he's not locating, and and it just means because he
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pounds the zone.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
They know that he pounds the zone.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
They know that he trusts his stuff, and so he's
gonna come after you with fast balls and sinkers, and
and if he falls behind, there's a really good chance
the next one's in the zone and he will miss
over the plate versus miss off of the play because
he trusts that his stuff is good enough. Well against
this team, they were aggressive. They had a great game
plan where they were just saying, hey, we're gonna go
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up there. I mean that third inning where it kind
of started going off the rails. There wasn't a guy
that saw more than three pitches. And in that bat
I think with the exception of the Kirk walk where
they had a base open, they basically uninttentionally around them,
you know, was like base ope, we're go go go
ahead and put him on so we can try to
get that force at home. And so to me, it
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just was they executed a game plan and George didn't
execute his. It's not that he needs to change his
he just needs to execute. They executed, and that's the
name of the game.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I think in the.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Playoffs, every pitch means more. You make a mistake, then
it does the hitter capitalize on it. Last night they
capitalized on it. When he made a mistake.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
They hurt him.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I have such faith in our starting pitching and have
for so long. Whenever I see one of our guys
get tattooed that badly, and he got tattooed and it
came out of nowhere. The first two innings, they wouldn't
have all that left the infield. He had an infield
single that he gave up that you know, it was
just a high chopper. I mean, there's not much g
Gino tried to rush the throw and ends up throwing
it away, but he didn't. He got a lazy fly
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ball to center field, I guess to close out the second,
but I mean, there was no indication that George was
in store for any kind of struggle through those first
two innings, and then all of a sudden, I mean
there wasn't a cheapie in the inning. I mean, it
was just crush, crush, crush. Eight nine hitters are the
ones that got it started. And Andre's Jimenez, who's outstanding
defensively and not much of a hitter, ends up hitting
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the two run homer to tie it, and then it
just wasn't over with. And so I'm such a big
believer in this group. My immediate thought is he's tipping
his pitches, and nobody hits George that hard if they
don't know what's coming. I don't want to feel I
don't know if that's it. There's any truth to that.
Maybe there is some truth to that, but I can't
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just Hey, one of our guys gets hit. They must
be figuring out what he's throwing. And then I went
home because most of the games that I watch with
the Mariners are from my television set. I don't usually
watch them deep in right field, and so I get
home and I see all the highlights and he was
just everything right over the heart of the plate and
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they were murdering it. I mean, like Dalton var Show,
I didn't even realize what a.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Bullet he hit.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, I knew Guerrero's because Guerrero's almost is double almost
took Gino's head off, and it hit off the wall.
So I'm like, that's hit pretty hard. Yeah, But I
mean the entire inning they just crushed him, and the
entire inning after from the second to the third, he
went from locating fine to not locating at all, and
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he paid and suffered the consequences.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
I mean, that's the beauty of just sports in general, right,
is that they're human. And while they show you over
the course of a year, thirty starts or you know,
multiple seasons how good they can be. Every single person
is going to have a time at some point. You
hope it's not in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Everybody.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Everybody's gonna have a time where they're not on their game. Now,
the difference is how many mistakes do you make versus
how many mistakes do they make. And when I'm saying,
I'm saying the pitchers making mistakes over the heart of
the plate, because inevitably just comes out to numbers. If
you make twenty mistakes over the heart of the plate
against a good hitting team, which once you get to
the final four of any sort of sport you have
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good teams, you then have good players on If you
make twenty mistakes and they make ten, you're probably gonna lose.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I mean, it really can.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
You can simple it up to that, because even if
you capitalize on eighty percent of years and they only
capitalize on seventy percent, they are beating you at that
point in time. I mean, it's just a matter of
you're not gonna capitalize on every mistake. Nobody expects that,
but at this point in time. That's why the precision
and the attention to detail is so paramount.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
You don't want to be having to throw.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Extra pitches because you give extra outs, because sure enough,
if you make a mistake at that point in time, boom,
there's a two run homer. That wasn't the case necessarily
last night.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
It was just George in that inning.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
They were going to ambush him, they were going to
jump on him early in counts and he would either
fall behind and then they know for sure, this dude
doesn't go fall behind two. Oh, he's coming with something here.
He's going to give me something good to hit. And
sure enough they were on time and on plane and
squared something up.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
It wasn't there.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
He didn't get any balls that were hit hard right
at anybody. And so, I mean, it's just the recipe
for bad things to happen when you don't execute and
the other team does. I mean, if you were in
the middle of May, you might get away with a
few more mistakes, or he definitely you don't. You're in
the beginning of August, and you might get away with
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a few more mistakes. In the postseason. You're just not
going to do it against a good hitting team that
was quiet. The first couple of games found themselves painted
into a corner to some degree and they were like,
all right, boys, it's time we got to wake up.
We're not going out there expecting Shane Bieber to shut
him down. We know what George Kirby is going to
try to do against us. We're going to go in
with a good game plan and if he's hit missing
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over the heart of the plate, we're gonna crush him.
And that's exactly what they did last night.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
I think we should have let him score forty three runs,
just get it all out of their.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, yeah, just drain the bucket.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
Yeah yeah, here, ye here, just batting.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Practice, less fun. Yeah, it would have been a longer night.
It was long enough night as it was.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
Actually, let's just wear them out now.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Though, there is the question about where do you go
with this rotation from here, because Brian Wu continues to
be you know, every single series, every single sports talk
radio show or baseball show is going to talk about
an X factor a wild card, And sir, sure enough,
we did it in our roundtable. Softy went around the room,
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watch the wild card in the first round. Well, here
we are in the visional round, and I don't know
if I ever brought the question up, or excuse me,
the Championship Series round. I don't know if I ever
brought the question up. I don't know if I was
ever asked a question. I think it was too obvious.
It's Brian Wu, like, what is his availability? When is
his availability? How good is he going to be if
he gets called? And so now you have to consider
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what George just did and then having the possibility of
Brian Wu returning, but not knowing how good he's going
to be upon his return as you shape the rotation
for the rest of the series.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Blue Jays are back in this thing, and.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
You just you got to plan for it to be
a long series. And so the only thing we know
for sure is that Luis Castillo is pitching tonight. That's
obvious to everybody, as he should and maybe he should
have pitched last night.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
But the only thing we know for sure is that
he's going to pitch tonight. Beyond that, I mean, I
just the last thing that I heard last night about
the Mariners was that maybe the Mariners aren't so convinced
that Brian Wu's going to start Game five after all,
and that maybe he's gonna come out of the pen
for his first playoff appearance just to gauge how ready
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he is and how Brian Wu like he actually is.
But you do have the possibility here of Wu starting
in game five, and because you're the only organization left
that actually has five quality starters if Wu's healthy, I
mean the Brewers have one. No, the Brewers have one.
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We have five. Yeah. Now, if Wu's healthy, do you
now looking to see what happened with George last night?
Do you go Wu five, Miller six, and then Gilbert seven.
I mean, I think the plan was going into the
series that George is pitching three and seven. Well, Game seven,
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with the way Toronto knocked George around, I mean, I
trust George. If we only had four starters, I'm bringing
George Game seven. I'm just gonna trust he pitches more
like he did against the Tigers than he did last night.
But the truth of the matter is we have more
than four starters. And now that Bryce looked so good
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in his last start, I mean, I don't think anybody
should have any reservations about him getting the ball in
one of these remaining games in the series. So if
Wu's if they're going to roll the dice on WU
being healthy in game number five, Maybe George doesn't start again.
Maybe he's the guy that comes out of the pen
if you need him in game six or game seven.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
It's possible.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
And I'm with you after the you know, yesterday during
the third inding, I think it was there was reports.
I didn't notice it, but that Wu went out to
the bullpen, and so you know, Dan Wilson was asked
what was that all about? When what was the situation
in which you would have used him? And he played
it off as it was really more so of letting
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him go out there and feel what it's like in
case that's the manner in which we use him. So
it brings in that and to your point of what
you've been a little bit concerned about since he's been injured,
and when will they use him to kind of knock
the rust off and see exactly how he feels, because
I think you correct me if I'm wrong, but you're
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a little concerned about if they bring him out there
to start and now it's just not right, the inflammation
and his peck flares up again. And now said you've
got eight innings or nine innings you have to cover
with your bullpen. I think they might have a little
bit of concern because while in his press conference he says,
I feel good. The last thing that I need is
them to give me the ball, tell me, you know,
tell me when I'm pitching. He also says went to
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answers Angie Mintig's question of what's your percentage of Well,
I mean, nobody feels great at this point.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Okay, Well that's not what I wanted to hear.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Yeah, I wanted you to hear you say I've had
two weeks off, I feel one yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
And so yeah, give a heel, kicker.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
I wouldn't be too terribly surprised, honestly. I mean, you're
gonna have Luis today, you still are pretty much on
regular rest. If you were to then go Bryce in
game five and Logan Gilbert in game six if needed,
and then and then you still.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Have George Kirby.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
I'm not gonna be I'm not gonna sit here after
this and say George Kirby I don't trust him in
game seven, I still would even as bad as yesterday looked,
because it was one of those they capitalized on in
just about every mistake in that third inning, and then
the dam broke, and next thing you know you're down
twelve to four.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Well, I'm only saying it if Wo's gonna pick right,
because we started this series with him saying tentatively he's
starting Game five. That's the only reason I'm bringing this up.
I mean, if George has to pitch game seven. He
pitched Game five against Trek Scooble and he showed up right.
But to see him get hit around a little bit,
and knowing that we do have potentially little embarrassment of
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riches this time of the year, I don't think it's
out of the question that we don't see George start
another game this series. But we'll find out. All right,
we got a lot to discuss today. Let's find out
what's on tap for the rest of the show.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
On chucking, But what what's on te what's untech?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
All right?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Thirteen to four Jays over the MS coming up at
six thirty Mariners morning after we've been doing it all
season long. We're not going to shift now. Luis Castillo
versus Max Scherzer is the pitching matchup. We will talk
about Max Scherzer coming up on the show. That's an
interesting story. Five thirty eight, First pitch there, Game three
of the NLCS will be played tonight as well, so
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doubleheader this evening. The Dodgers are up two to zero
in that series and they get to go home to
Los Angeles to face the Brewers. Cracking back in action.
They still have not lost a game. Well, I guess
they did lose a game in overtime, but they got
a point. They still haven't played a game in which
they did not get a point. I was talking to
Mike Betton a little bit last night because it's all
he thinks about, and he's like, they couldn't be off
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to a better start under Lane Lambert.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I mean, they just love the guy.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
So let's carry that into Ottawa tonight against the Senators.
Sounders play their last regular season game this weekend. The
NBA starts on Tuesday. Oh, by the way, as if
we didn't have enough to discuss, Husky's at Michigan on Saturday,
Sophti will join us at seven oh five. We'll try
to ask him a question about the Huskies. Something tells
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me he just wants to talk Mariners, but we'll try
to balance him out a little bit. Nobody else has
been able to. We'll give it a shot. Seahawks Texans
Monday Night football. This week, Mike Sando will join us
to preview Thursday night football, Steelers versus Bengals, So obviously
a lot to accomplish today. Mariner's Morning After comes your way. Next,
it's Chugging Buck in the Morning Sports Radio ninety three
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point three KJRFM on this Craft game. Yeah, their second
post game show we've done on this.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Hey, when things are going good, you answer the bell.
When things aren't going great, you answer the damn bell.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
George was there answering questions last night, and we can
do two postgame shows afterwards.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
I was not pumped about it, y' just sitting behind
you looking at your head the whole game and then
Homer's flying out of the yard and I'm like.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
There were a lot of them.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
I got to go do a postgame show. I'm like,
you know what, you don't just do it when it's
a good game to talk about. You do it when
it's an any game to talk about.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
You just half asset when it's a bad game.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
No, no, no, okay, Max evert playoff time.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
So it's a highlight of sound by the preview of
what's going on two night. Marin This Morning after all
season long right here on Chuck and Buck in the mornings.
As we mentioned, the fans showed up last night and
others sell out. It was all Mariner fans. Yeah, there
were some Blue Jay fans in there, but it was
all Mariner noise. It felt like it, it sounded like it,
it tasted like it. And so the Mariners get off
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to a really good start. George Kirby goes phases four
in the first inning, gave up an infield single, puts
a zero on the board, and then in the bottom
of the first Julio Rodriguez comes to the plate, rodriga
strus place when Nurts sure did our house Fox television
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there on the call last night. That was crush.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Now, that was crush. Yeah, I touched that one mm.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Good to see two run homer at that point made
it two to nothing. But in the third inning, the
walls came down around George Kirby. He gave up a
two run homer to Andres Jamenez. Before he could get
out of the third, he was trailing five to two,
uh and then at six too, then eight to two.
George Kirby ends up giving up eight earned runs over
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four innings. Last night and the Blue Jays run away
with a thirteen to four victory. But George was there
to answer the bell after the game, answering questions.
Speaker 7 (23:43):
Yeah, I mean I definitely came out the way I
wanted to. Yeah, I kind of just I wasn't really
excuting when they when they got the guys on base,
and they're really aggressive when that happened. So you know,
they made some good swings that I wasn't really making
a lot of good pitches there in the third and fourth,
but a I was just trying to be really cute
with it, and you know some sliders just kind of
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leap over the middle or you know, missed a heater
to him and is there try to go up, just
hit throw it down. But you know it's all right,
I'll you know, next of them out there, I'll fix that.
So yeah, it's it's you know, I'm I'm never gonna
you know straight away from what I do well is
is get it, get ahead and be in the zone.
(24:25):
But you know, they had a lot of comfortable bets
to night, so maybe just throw it aside a little more,
get them off for something, or you know, maybe a
different look for first pitch. But they're just kind of
constantly reminding myself that I'm in control and you know,
not try and let any of those bats, you know,
bother me. Just take a deep breath. So I got
(24:47):
to control what I can control.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
And yeah, self awareness is good check yep. Also, I
don't think they would have his confidence was shaken by
that last night. George was infinitely confident to a person,
and he does sometimes struggle when things aren't going his
way and a little bit of rain makes him wet.
That is one of the criticisms of George Kirby, and
(25:10):
maybe that happened last night. Let a couple of sliders
leak over the middle. I guess he didn't get one
swing and miss on his sinker the entire evening. So
he certainly was not vintage George Kirby last night, and
the Blue Jays made him pay for it. One thing
we haven't discussed is so whether or not he should
have been taken out of the game a little bit earlier.
(25:32):
I don't know if I agree. I know a lot
of people thought that he should have been just immediately
or not immediately, but taken out of the game as
it was. The runs were piling up. It's a really
difficult position to be in because if you're Dan Wilson,
you're like, well, down five to two. I know it's early,
but I got to play back to back games. It's
(25:52):
looking like and I'm not going to use any of
my four best relievers in the third inning of a game.
I'm trailer by three runs. I'm not going to do that.
So the other option is, do I go to my
lesser than relievers? Do I go to a Vargas here?
Do I go to Ferguson here to try to stop
the bleeding? And then when you evaluate that, you're like,
(26:14):
you know, George came out and struck out the first
two batters he faced in the fourth George is probably
my best tourniquet for the wound that he created, and
so he sticks with sticks with George, and then he
gives up the solo home runs on the first pitch
to both Springer and Guerrero within the next three hitters.
And then at that point, now you're looking Bucky at
(26:36):
seven to two, and now you're like, well, now I'm
no hurry to even get to Vargus and Ferguson at
this point. So that was just it really snuck up
on them. How quickly the Blue Jays did their damage
against George. I don't think anyone saw that coming, most
notably Dan Wilson. And once the damage was done, I
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don't think he was going to be chasing a three
run deficit two games up in the series with his
best pitchers, knowing that most likely we're gonna have to
have all four of those guys on back to back
nights in Games three and Games four and five.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, no, I agree, I don't think.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
I mean, based on what you said, I mean, in
the first two innings, he basically he gets everybody out,
with the exception of that chopper that that that Vladimir
Guerrero hit that somehow bounces so far that Gino has
to go back and ends up. He gets on with
that rush to throw a little bit. Other than that,
he dices him up, and then it's a matter of
three pitches in the third inning. It's first pitch was
(27:38):
a good pitch actually off the plate end that turns
into that double, and two pitches later, bang you're tied.
And then it's just kind of how quickly that the
wheels kind of came off there with you know, everybody
just kind of any mistake that he made single and
you know, and then a double and then next thing
you know, you're you're you get another out, so you
got two outs and you kind of walk around, you
(28:00):
walk a guy to have bases loaded. It's still too
too you think about it that moment, you're right, come on, Kirby,
get out of this right. One out, base is loaded.
He gets the ground ball to first, so he does
the hard part right and then all of a sudden
spikes the first pitch slider boom, and the go ahead
run comes. And that was like the break that kind
of broke the dam. That was the moment when it
(28:21):
just kind of started to leak because a couple of
pitches later, that varshow hit crushes that ball off the
right field wall and it's five to two. You don't
there's no need to panic. I mean really, it's one
of those No, he's not punting on the thing. He's
not punting on the game. Five to two, and you
just don't even care. You're just gonna let.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
It get out of hand.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
No, he's thinking that our best option of like you said,
perfect way to put it, the best tourniquet for the
wound that he created is him versus Yeah, we're not
going to blow through. You're not bringing Brash in real quick,
you know, or even Gabe or Barzarre.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
No, Gabe was loosening at the time, but I think
once it got to five to two, it's like, I'm
not gonna use that right now. Do you use anything,
It's gonna be Vargas. And I don't know if I
trust Vargas more than I trust attired George.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Well, and yeah, you don't even know if he's tired,
he just was making mistakes or just as he was,
he was just not executing. And yet if you can
it's not that he wasn't saying like in the regular season,
we're gonna try to get him through five or we're
gonna you gotta eat innings, because in the regular season
you can't go one hundred and sixty two games and
then blow starters out in the second third inning because
they run into trouble.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
You your bullpen arms will fall off. Yeah, and so
you have to do that. But now that you've done.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
That throughout the regular season, you can use your bullpen
a little bit more. You can expect to stretch them
out a little bit more, and there's built in off days,
but you still have to think. You got back to
back to back games here at home, and so if
you fall behind and you don't think, hey, I don't
want to blow you know, my highest leverage guys right here,
then your next best option is get through it. And
(29:53):
he ends up kind of getting through it and then
gets ambushed a couple more times to make it seven
ye and then basically walks a guy. All right, you're
out of the game, and Vargas gives up that run
and some more runs. So it just ended up the
damn broke and then the floodwaters came and it is
what it is, but it isn't necessarily Oh I have
to find someone to blame. The blame is George Kirby
(30:15):
will take it. Yeah, I didn't execute. They were too comfortable, yep.
All right, Well make that adjustment next time you face them,
or next time you're out there on the bump, make
that adjustment because you can. You're going to go up
against good hitting teams the rest of the way. You
make a bunch of mistakes, you're gonna pay for it.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah, yeah, you don't have to. If you have to
blame somebody. You don't have to search far. The six
foot five inch skinny pitcher in the backgrounds raising his hands.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Yeah, he's like, yeah, so don't look elsewhere. Yeah, just
over here. I did entertain when we hit the back
to back home runs. I did lean over to Benton
and I said, how.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Awesome would it be if we had ten in a
row of these?
Speaker 5 (30:53):
I beg that would be the coolest thing ever in
the history of not just sports but mankind.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
And we've still just been tied. Yeah, I don't care.
I said, we just need eight more or whatever it was.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
And I was like, and then in my mind I
was like, could we do it?
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Maybe that would be amazing. I don't have happened, no,
but I would have been there for it.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
That would have been the greatest single moment in the
history of sports.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
But yeah, yeah, idea, universe, we just need.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
Two more Grand Slams. I was like, Okay, yeah, two
Grand slams.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Load of fire them off. Still just Grand slams, No
big deal. Uh, tonight five thirty eight, first pitch game four,
So still a chance to get accomplished. What you'd like
to get accomplished here, and that's to take two out
of three at home and win the whole damn series.
Uh So, Luis Castillo will get the ball for the MS.
I love the rock sign that he gave during the
(31:48):
player introductions. That was nice, just so subtle, just so cool.
And he's going up against Max Scherzer, and that is
a talking point. We need to talk about Max Scherzer
at some point during the course of our show. So
five thirty eight, first pitch tonight, Game four of the ALCS.
More on that coming up on the program, but not
all we're going to discuss today. As a matter of fact,
(32:09):
Monday night football is coming pretty fast. And that Houston
Texans team, what a weird study they are early in
this year. We'll talk about what makes them interesting.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
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Speaker 8 (32:21):
M hid Bye's gonna be away at seven o'clock this.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Morning, David Softy Maller will be with us at seven
oh five. He's gonna be fine. He's gonna be fine,
and if he's not, he's not going to be so
far gone that we can't bring him back to fine.
I just talked to him, yeah, briefly.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
Yeah, yeah, I think I think he's gonna be all right, Right,
He's okay.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
It's a right guy. He's a right guy, emotional guy.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Guy.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah, we'll keep him. We'll keep him on the street.
I do love him. Yeah, we need him, We need him.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
Yeah, everyone needs Softy in their lives.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
So Softy joins. At seven oh five, we'll talk Mariners,
will also of course talk Huskies, which is the original
design of the whole conversation anyway, but we'll get that
to that at seven oh five. And we got to
talk some Seahawks today as well. We're getting closer and
closer to Monday Night Football. That's going to be fun
part of a double header on Monday Night football, which
I don't really like. Monday night football should be a
(33:28):
little more sacred than that. It's just one game, and
if we have the Monday night football game, I want
everybody to be watching us. I don't even want to
be a part of a double header where the first
game will be over. I don't know why they're doing
that in the National Football League, but they're doing it
way too frequently. At least we're not going head to
head against another game. That's just a slap in the face.
But the it should be a really good game, and
(33:50):
the Seahawks four and two at this point, the Houston
Texans are two and three. What an interesting study they are.
They're supposed to be pretty good.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
C J.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Stroud is supposed to be bounce back from his sophomore
slump season and get back on the track of being
one of the top young quarterbacks in the National Football League.
But they got off to an zero to three start.
They could not score points against teams that are really good.
At the Rams home against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who
they lost by one point two, and then at Jacksonville
(34:21):
and it turns out Jacksonville's a little bit better than
what people thought, and they lost that by a score.
Then they win twenty six to nothing over the Titans,
and okay, nice win, but we can pick that apart
because it's the Titans and they're obviously in a bad way. Hell,
they fired their coach one week later, and then they
win forty four to ten over the Ravens. They're back right. Well,
(34:44):
that was the Cooper Rush led Ravens, and that's a
completely different team than the Lamar Jackson led Ravens, And
so I think that Houston might be the biggest question
mark in the entire National Football League?
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (34:58):
How good are you? Are you even good? As they
get ready to play Monday night. One thing that's pretty
clear about them they play some defense. They are number
one in the National Football League in points allowed and
it's not even close. They are allowing twelve point two
points per game. And people when they think of Houston Bucky,
they think of CJ. Stroud, Nico Collins and the offensive
(35:19):
names because everybody plays fantasy football, but Damiko Ryans is
a defensive minded head coach. He took the league by
storm two years ago. And even though he doesn't have
his offense clicking, he certainly has what he does best clicking.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
Yeah, I mean it's in my other couple of fantasy leagues.
I picked up that defense because it's crazy talented. I
mean you think about the guys the was it Stingley
out there on the outside. But then they have a
couple did the Hunter and will Anderson getting after the passer?
Speaker 3 (35:50):
I mean they have some dudes.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
I mean they've spent some draft capital on some guys
that are coming to fruition. I would not sleep on
this team because, like you said, their record says oh,
maybe this is a team you should most certainly beat,
But the reason they lost some close games where they
were playing some tough competition the first few weeks of
the season. Since then they've rebounded, and maybe it's against
(36:14):
two subpar teams, But at the same time, I have
a feeling that they're not trying to lose the momentum
that they've gained right now, not to regardless of who they're
going up again.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Make for a fascinating matchup. We will certainly be talking
about it a lot more tomorrow, and then Monday will
do basically Friday, and then Tuesday will do basically Monday
of next week. So Seahawks Texans this Monday night, as
we get ready for a brand new week in the
National Football League that starts tomorrow. Headlines David Softy Mallert
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Hey, good morning, Welcome into the Thursday edition of Chuck
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Mariner Bucky Jacobson us here Ashley Ryan as well as
we roll out the Thursday edition of our radio show,
and we do so without celebration. Here today, as we're
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coming off a loss last night in the American League
Championship Series thirteen to four, the final score. The Blue
Jays Bats finally showed up in the series. We'll be
talking about it quite a bit throughout the course of
our broadcast Morning with You, but we'll sprinkle in some
other things as well as So we we do have
four hours together, we might as well really get to
(01:50):
know each other day.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
That's great. Yeah, nice in that hoodie sweatshirt you got on.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Oh, we thank you very much. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you
look warm, looks like you should be warmer. That's probably true.
That much I do know about her. I mean, today's
about getting to know each other better. But yeah, she's
the coldest person ever. Yeah, and you're the warmest. Yeah,
I'm I'm hot.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
I wouldn't mind if you gave me some of that.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
I could show you the way. It's just extra fat,
that's all you need.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, And it's not just about the three of us.
I want to get to know all of our listeners
better today as we you know, heal from a loss
last night. For example, Kevin, you know who I'm you
know I'm talking to Kevin. Yeah, when did you lose
your virginity. I've been wondering that for a long time. Question. Yeah, Margaret,
you can hear me, Margaret. Yeah, well, how many taxes did.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
You not report?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
How much of your income did you not.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
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Yeah, well I don't know. These are just things i'd
like to know about our listeners.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah. I think it's a great idea.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Just go ahead, you can text us, you can hit
the talk back by let us know the laws you've broken,
and we will not report you.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I like to start all like personal relationships, with knowing
your deepest, darkest secret, and then I can judge you
going forward.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, yeah, agree, that's why I agree.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
I think that's a good way to start. You don't
mean to unfold after time.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, a lot of first dates, just start and write
that way in my lifetime.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
Just down what's your Social Security member? Just so I
can get an idea of your financial background.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Not a lot of second dates, as it turns out, surprising. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
a lot of first law Yeah, definitely. Well, good morning.
We have to have a little bit of fun, because
that wasn't too much fun last night. I mean it
started great. Julio Rodriguez, it's the two run Homer. It
was undeniable that all the concern about whether or not
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Toronto Canada Blue Jays We're going to take over our stadium,
that didn't even come close to happening. I mean, it
was a little tricky visually to kind of figure out
how many Blue Jays fans are here, because I did
spend some time doing that. I even took a picture
of a Blue Jays family and was going to tweet
out something about could the security please escort these people
(04:10):
out of here? And they were such a sweet family,
like a mom and dad and two little kids, and
they couldn't wait. And I was about ready to plan
a weapon on them.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Good, Yeah, that would have been a good idea. Yeah,
and then call security and uh and yeah, I just
decided not to go there. And it's a good thing
I did, because they hardly made a ripple last night.
Mariner fans were just uh, they were outstanding again last
night for as long as they could be. Yea, at
some point the game gets so lopsided it's hard to
you know, it's hard to keep that energy up, understandably,
(04:41):
But yeah, that was not an issue last night. So
it got off to such a great start the national
anthem and the old Canada song. Those triplets knocked that
out of the park. So there was like a really
good vibe there for a while.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for a while.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Yeah, I mean it was I was a little I
wasn't overly concerned about them coming in. I kind of
thought there's gonna be some Blue Jays fans there, and
you're right, it's hard to tell because of their royal
blue and now we have the city connects and so
it just kind of but when they were announcing the
lineups and the rosters, it was abundantly clear that they
(05:17):
were a gigantic minority and and and they showed up.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I mean, I'll say.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Even even though the game got completely out of hand
when we went when a Rosarina and col hit those homers.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
They blew up again. The crowd sat down in.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
The middle innings when they were giving up crooked number
after crooked number, where they hadn't basically sat down since Friday.
I mean, I don't think really, literally anyone in Seattle
had sat down since last Friday. So uh, they did.
Finally the legs got tired and what they were watching
wasn't They weren't getting a whole lot to cheer about,
and so it made sense where it kind of quieted down,
(05:56):
but they still you could tell that they were they
were hyped up.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
I mean even like eighth or ninth inning.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
There was people above the hit it here, Cafe Hip
Hip hoor hey man, I'm.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Still trying to cheer and yeah, like the city's.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
String down nine runs, they still were bringing it. Yeah,
they were bringing it, that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Yeah, the team not so much. But that's the way
that it happens. Sometimes you're going up against a good
team and George made some mistakes and they pay.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
He had to pay for it.
Speaker 7 (06:23):
Well.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
And I don't think anyone thought that like Toronto was
just gonna roll over and die. And I think anyone
I didn't think it was going to be a sweep
by any means. So I didn't leave that game thinking
that's the worst thing. I mean I left I was like,
well that was disappointing. Okay, on to the next one.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, And that feeling carried over into our post game
show last night. I mean, Jimmy's remained pretty packed. You know,
a game got over at eight thirty ish, eight twenty ish,
So it's not like it was all that late. But
Jimmy's remained pretty packed throughout the our entire post game
show last night, probably because of Bucky and I. Yeah,
people can't get enough of us, Yeah for sure, But
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it remained and there was there was no feeling. I mean,
there was even a member of the Mariners organization we
won't say any names. So it was there, you know,
smiling and hanging out with friends and.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Having a beer.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
So nobody took it too seriously. And look, a lot
of fan bases do take a loss, take it a
little too far, you know, and certainly Seattle fan bases
have been known to do that. We've already had this
fan base, half of it, give up on the postseason
twice this postseason already.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
See how many people thought it was over after we
lost to Detroit in game one.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Game one and Game four. Yeah, and so, but there
wasn't any of that. Now that comes with a two
two game cushion, certainly, and taking both of those in Toronto,
but everybody that we chatted with it came over and
talked to us, and certainly the vibe in the bar
was we're good, We're all right, and I do think
we're good and I do think we're all right, and
(07:58):
I still think there's a very good chance that we
don't go back to Canada and we end up taking
this thing in five. But obviously, to Ashley's point, uh,
Toronto wasn't gonna roll over. They obviously have some talent.
George wasn't hitting his spots, and this is just the
lineup to take advantage of that. You're not gonna hit
your spots against the Toronto Blue Jays. They're gonna score
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double figures against you.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Yeah, yeah, I mean they have they have some really
talented hitters. And they while they cooled off, Bryce cooled
him off, and and for the most part, the pitching
staff cooled him off in Game two two didn't necessarily
let him get off the off the mat against George.
It just is a it's a recipe for disaster if
he's not locating, and and it just means because he
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pounds the zone.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
They know that he pounds the zone.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
They know that he trusts his stuff, and so he's
gonna come after you with fast balls and sinkers, and
and if he falls behind, there's a really good chance
the next one's in the zone and he will miss
over the plate versus miss off of the play because
he trusts that his stuff is good enough. Well against
this team, they were aggressive. They had a great game
plan where they were just saying, hey, we're gonna go
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up there. I mean that third inning where it kind
of started going off the rails. There wasn't a guy
that saw more than three pitches. And in that bat
I think with the exception of the Kirk walk where
they had a base open, they basically uninttentionally around them,
you know, was like base ope, we're go go go
ahead and put him on so we can try to
get that force at home. And so to me, it
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just was they executed a game plan and George didn't
execute his. It's not that he needs to change his
he just needs to execute. They executed, and that's the
name of the game.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I think in the.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Playoffs, every pitch means more. You make a mistake, then
it does the hitter capitalize on it. Last night they
capitalized on it. When he made a mistake.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
They hurt him.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I have such faith in our starting pitching and have
for so long. Whenever I see one of our guys
get tattooed that badly, and he got tattooed and it
came out of nowhere. The first two innings, they wouldn't
have all that left the infield. He had an infield
single that he gave up that you know, it was
just a high chopper. I mean, there's not much g
Gino tried to rush the throw and ends up throwing
it away, but he didn't. He got a lazy fly
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ball to center field, I guess to close out the second,
but I mean, there was no indication that George was
in store for any kind of struggle through those first
two innings, and then all of a sudden, I mean
there wasn't a cheapie in the inning. I mean, it
was just crush, crush, crush. Eight nine hitters are the
ones that got it started. And Andre's Jimenez, who's outstanding
defensively and not much of a hitter, ends up hitting
(10:37):
the two run homer to tie it, and then it
just wasn't over with. And so I'm such a big
believer in this group. My immediate thought is he's tipping
his pitches, and nobody hits George that hard if they
don't know what's coming. I don't want to feel I
don't know if that's it. There's any truth to that.
Maybe there is some truth to that, but I can't
(10:58):
just Hey, one of our guys gets hit. They must
be figuring out what he's throwing. And then I went
home because most of the games that I watch with
the Mariners are from my television set. I don't usually
watch them deep in right field, and so I get
home and I see all the highlights and he was
just everything right over the heart of the plate and
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they were murdering it. I mean, like Dalton var Show,
I didn't even realize what a.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Bullet he hit.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, I knew Guerrero's because Guerrero's almost is double almost
took Gino's head off, and it hit off the wall.
So I'm like, that's hit pretty hard. Yeah, But I
mean the entire inning they just crushed him, and the
entire inning after from the second to the third, he
went from locating fine to not locating at all, and
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he paid and suffered the consequences.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
I mean, that's the beauty of just sports in general, right,
is that they're human. And while they show you over
the course of a year, thirty starts or you know,
multiple seasons how good they can be. Every single person
is going to have a time at some point. You
hope it's not in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Everybody.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Everybody's gonna have a time where they're not on their game. Now,
the difference is how many mistakes do you make versus
how many mistakes do they make. And when I'm saying,
I'm saying the pitchers making mistakes over the heart of
the plate, because inevitably just comes out to numbers. If
you make twenty mistakes over the heart of the plate
against a good hitting team, which once you get to
the final four of any sort of sport you have
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good teams, you then have good players on If you
make twenty mistakes and they make ten, you're probably gonna lose.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
I mean, it really can.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
You can simple it up to that, because even if
you capitalize on eighty percent of years and they only
capitalize on seventy percent, they are beating you at that
point in time. I mean, it's just a matter of
you're not gonna capitalize on every mistake. Nobody expects that,
but at this point in time. That's why the precision
and the attention to detail is so paramount.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
You don't want to be having to throw.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Extra pitches because you give extra outs, because sure enough,
if you make a mistake at that point in time, boom,
there's a two run homer. That wasn't the case necessarily
last night.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
It was just George in that inning.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
They were going to ambush him, they were going to
jump on him early in counts and he would either
fall behind and then they know for sure, this dude
doesn't go fall behind two. Oh, he's coming with something here.
He's going to give me something good to hit. And
sure enough they were on time and on plane and
squared something up.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
It wasn't there.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
He didn't get any balls that were hit hard right
at anybody. And so, I mean, it's just the recipe
for bad things to happen when you don't execute and
the other team does. I mean, if you were in
the middle of May, you might get away with a
few more mistakes, or he definitely you don't. You're in
the beginning of August, and you might get away with
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a few more mistakes. In the postseason. You're just not
going to do it against a good hitting team that
was quiet. The first couple of games found themselves painted
into a corner to some degree and they were like,
all right, boys, it's time we got to wake up.
We're not going out there expecting Shane Bieber to shut
him down. We know what George Kirby is going to
try to do against us. We're going to go in
with a good game plan and if he's hit missing
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over the heart of the plate, we're gonna crush him.
And that's exactly what they did last night.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
I think we should have let him score forty three runs,
just get it all out of their.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, yeah, just drain the bucket.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
Yeah yeah, here, ye here, just batting.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Practice, less fun. Yeah, it would have been a longer night.
It was long enough night as it was.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
Actually, let's just wear them out now.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Though, there is the question about where do you go
with this rotation from here, because Brian Wu continues to
be you know, every single series, every single sports talk
radio show or baseball show is going to talk about
an X factor a wild card, And sir, sure enough,
we did it in our roundtable. Softy went around the room,
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watch the wild card in the first round. Well, here
we are in the visional round, and I don't know
if I ever brought the question up, or excuse me,
the Championship Series round. I don't know if I ever
brought the question up. I don't know if I was
ever asked a question. I think it was too obvious.
It's Brian Wu, like, what is his availability? When is
his availability? How good is he going to be if
he gets called? And so now you have to consider
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what George just did and then having the possibility of
Brian Wu returning, but not knowing how good he's going
to be upon his return as you shape the rotation
for the rest of the series.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Blue Jays are back in this thing, and.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
You just you got to plan for it to be
a long series. And so the only thing we know
for sure is that Luis Castillo is pitching tonight. That's
obvious to everybody, as he should and maybe he should
have pitched last night.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
But the only thing we know for sure is that
he's going to pitch tonight. Beyond that, I mean, I
just the last thing that I heard last night about
the Mariners was that maybe the Mariners aren't so convinced
that Brian Wu's going to start Game five after all,
and that maybe he's gonna come out of the pen
for his first playoff appearance just to gauge how ready
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he is and how Brian Wu like he actually is.
But you do have the possibility here of Wu starting
in game five, and because you're the only organization left
that actually has five quality starters if Wu's healthy, I
mean the Brewers have one. No, the Brewers have one.
(16:29):
We have five. Yeah. Now, if Wu's healthy, do you
now looking to see what happened with George last night?
Do you go Wu five, Miller six, and then Gilbert seven.
I mean, I think the plan was going into the
series that George is pitching three and seven. Well, Game seven,
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with the way Toronto knocked George around, I mean, I
trust George. If we only had four starters, I'm bringing
George Game seven. I'm just gonna trust he pitches more
like he did against the Tigers than he did last night.
But the truth of the matter is we have more
than four starters. And now that Bryce looked so good
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in his last start, I mean, I don't think anybody
should have any reservations about him getting the ball in
one of these remaining games in the series. So if
Wu's if they're going to roll the dice on WU
being healthy in game number five, Maybe George doesn't start again.
Maybe he's the guy that comes out of the pen
if you need him in game six or game seven.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
It's possible.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
And I'm with you after the you know, yesterday during
the third inding, I think it was there was reports.
I didn't notice it, but that Wu went out to
the bullpen, and so you know, Dan Wilson was asked
what was that all about? When what was the situation
in which you would have used him? And he played
it off as it was really more so of letting
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him go out there and feel what it's like in
case that's the manner in which we use him. So
it brings in that and to your point of what
you've been a little bit concerned about since he's been injured,
and when will they use him to kind of knock
the rust off and see exactly how he feels, because
I think you correct me if I'm wrong, but you're
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a little concerned about if they bring him out there
to start and now it's just not right, the inflammation
and his peck flares up again. And now said you've
got eight innings or nine innings you have to cover
with your bullpen. I think they might have a little
bit of concern because while in his press conference he says,
I feel good. The last thing that I need is
them to give me the ball, tell me, you know,
tell me when I'm pitching. He also says went to
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answers Angie Mintig's question of what's your percentage of Well,
I mean, nobody feels great at this point.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Okay, Well that's not what I wanted to hear.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Yeah, I wanted you to hear you say I've had
two weeks off, I feel one yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
And so yeah, give a heel, kicker.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
I wouldn't be too terribly surprised, honestly. I mean, you're
gonna have Luis today, you still are pretty much on
regular rest. If you were to then go Bryce in
game five and Logan Gilbert in game six if needed,
and then and then you still.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Have George Kirby.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
I'm not gonna be I'm not gonna sit here after
this and say George Kirby I don't trust him in
game seven, I still would even as bad as yesterday looked,
because it was one of those they capitalized on in
just about every mistake in that third inning, and then
the dam broke, and next thing you know you're down
twelve to four.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Well, I'm only saying it if Wo's gonna pick right,
because we started this series with him saying tentatively he's
starting Game five. That's the only reason I'm bringing this up.
I mean, if George has to pitch game seven. He
pitched Game five against Trek Scooble and he showed up right.
But to see him get hit around a little bit,
and knowing that we do have potentially little embarrassment of
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riches this time of the year, I don't think it's
out of the question that we don't see George start
another game this series. But we'll find out. All right,
we got a lot to discuss today. Let's find out
what's on tap for the rest of the show.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
On chucking, But what what's on te what's untech?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
All right?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Thirteen to four Jays over the MS coming up at
six thirty Mariners morning after we've been doing it all
season long. We're not going to shift now. Luis Castillo
versus Max Scherzer is the pitching matchup. We will talk
about Max Scherzer coming up on the show. That's an
interesting story. Five thirty eight, First pitch there, Game three
of the NLCS will be played tonight as well, so
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doubleheader this evening. The Dodgers are up two to zero
in that series and they get to go home to
Los Angeles to face the Brewers. Cracking back in action.
They still have not lost a game. Well, I guess
they did lose a game in overtime, but they got
a point. They still haven't played a game in which
they did not get a point. I was talking to
Mike Betton a little bit last night because it's all
he thinks about, and he's like, they couldn't be off
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to a better start under Lane Lambert.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I mean, they just love the guy.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
So let's carry that into Ottawa tonight against the Senators.
Sounders play their last regular season game this weekend. The
NBA starts on Tuesday. Oh, by the way, as if
we didn't have enough to discuss, Husky's at Michigan on Saturday,
Sophti will join us at seven oh five. We'll try
to ask him a question about the Huskies. Something tells
(21:12):
me he just wants to talk Mariners, but we'll try
to balance him out a little bit. Nobody else has
been able to. We'll give it a shot. Seahawks Texans
Monday Night football. This week, Mike Sando will join us
to preview Thursday night football, Steelers versus Bengals, So obviously
a lot to accomplish today. Mariner's Morning After comes your way. Next,
it's Chugging Buck in the Morning Sports Radio ninety three
(21:33):
point three KJRFM on this Craft game. Yeah, their second
post game show we've done on this.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Hey, when things are going good, you answer the bell.
When things aren't going great, you answer the damn bell.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
George was there answering questions last night, and we can
do two postgame shows afterwards.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
I was not pumped about it, y' just sitting behind
you looking at your head the whole game and then
Homer's flying out of the yard and I'm like.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
There were a lot of them.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
I got to go do a postgame show. I'm like,
you know what, you don't just do it when it's
a good game to talk about. You do it when
it's an any game to talk about.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
You just half asset when it's a bad game.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
No, no, no, okay, Max evert playoff time.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
So it's a highlight of sound by the preview of
what's going on two night. Marin This Morning after all
season long right here on Chuck and Buck in the mornings.
As we mentioned, the fans showed up last night and
others sell out. It was all Mariner fans. Yeah, there
were some Blue Jay fans in there, but it was
all Mariner noise. It felt like it, it sounded like it,
it tasted like it. And so the Mariners get off
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to a really good start. George Kirby goes phases four
in the first inning, gave up an infield single, puts
a zero on the board, and then in the bottom
of the first Julio Rodriguez comes to the plate, rodriga
strus place when Nurts sure did our house Fox television
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there on the call last night. That was crush.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Now, that was crush. Yeah, I touched that one mm.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Good to see two run homer at that point made
it two to nothing. But in the third inning, the
walls came down around George Kirby. He gave up a
two run homer to Andres Jamenez. Before he could get
out of the third, he was trailing five to two,
uh and then at six too, then eight to two.
George Kirby ends up giving up eight earned runs over
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four innings. Last night and the Blue Jays run away
with a thirteen to four victory. But George was there
to answer the bell after the game, answering questions.
Speaker 7 (23:43):
Yeah, I mean I definitely came out the way I
wanted to. Yeah, I kind of just I wasn't really
excuting when they when they got the guys on base,
and they're really aggressive when that happened. So you know,
they made some good swings that I wasn't really making
a lot of good pitches there in the third and fourth,
but a I was just trying to be really cute
with it, and you know some sliders just kind of
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leap over the middle or you know, missed a heater
to him and is there try to go up, just
hit throw it down. But you know it's all right,
I'll you know, next of them out there, I'll fix that.
So yeah, it's it's you know, I'm I'm never gonna
you know straight away from what I do well is
is get it, get ahead and be in the zone.
(24:25):
But you know, they had a lot of comfortable bets
to night, so maybe just throw it aside a little more,
get them off for something, or you know, maybe a
different look for first pitch. But they're just kind of
constantly reminding myself that I'm in control and you know,
not try and let any of those bats, you know,
bother me. Just take a deep breath. So I got
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to control what I can control.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
And yeah, self awareness is good check yep. Also, I
don't think they would have his confidence was shaken by
that last night. George was infinitely confident to a person,
and he does sometimes struggle when things aren't going his
way and a little bit of rain makes him wet.
That is one of the criticisms of George Kirby, and
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maybe that happened last night. Let a couple of sliders
leak over the middle. I guess he didn't get one
swing and miss on his sinker the entire evening. So
he certainly was not vintage George Kirby last night, and
the Blue Jays made him pay for it. One thing
we haven't discussed is so whether or not he should
have been taken out of the game a little bit earlier.
(25:32):
I don't know if I agree. I know a lot
of people thought that he should have been just immediately
or not immediately, but taken out of the game as
it was. The runs were piling up. It's a really
difficult position to be in because if you're Dan Wilson,
you're like, well, down five to two. I know it's early,
but I got to play back to back games. It's
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looking like and I'm not going to use any of
my four best relievers in the third inning of a game.
I'm trailer by three runs. I'm not going to do that.
So the other option is, do I go to my
lesser than relievers? Do I go to a Vargas here?
Do I go to Ferguson here to try to stop
the bleeding? And then when you evaluate that, you're like,
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you know, George came out and struck out the first
two batters he faced in the fourth George is probably
my best tourniquet for the wound that he created, and
so he sticks with sticks with George, and then he
gives up the solo home runs on the first pitch
to both Springer and Guerrero within the next three hitters.
And then at that point, now you're looking Bucky at
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seven to two, and now you're like, well, now I'm
no hurry to even get to Vargus and Ferguson at
this point. So that was just it really snuck up
on them. How quickly the Blue Jays did their damage
against George. I don't think anyone saw that coming, most
notably Dan Wilson. And once the damage was done, I
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don't think he was going to be chasing a three
run deficit two games up in the series with his
best pitchers, knowing that most likely we're gonna have to
have all four of those guys on back to back
nights in Games three and Games four and five.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, no, I agree, I don't think.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
I mean, based on what you said, I mean, in
the first two innings, he basically he gets everybody out,
with the exception of that chopper that that that Vladimir
Guerrero hit that somehow bounces so far that Gino has
to go back and ends up. He gets on with
that rush to throw a little bit. Other than that,
he dices him up, and then it's a matter of
three pitches in the third inning. It's first pitch was
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a good pitch actually off the plate end that turns
into that double, and two pitches later, bang you're tied.
And then it's just kind of how quickly that the
wheels kind of came off there with you know, everybody
just kind of any mistake that he made single and
you know, and then a double and then next thing
you know, you're you're you get another out, so you
got two outs and you kind of walk around, you
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walk a guy to have bases loaded. It's still too
too you think about it that moment, you're right, come on, Kirby,
get out of this right. One out, base is loaded.
He gets the ground ball to first, so he does
the hard part right and then all of a sudden
spikes the first pitch slider boom, and the go ahead
run comes. And that was like the break that kind
of broke the dam. That was the moment when it
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just kind of started to leak because a couple of
pitches later, that varshow hit crushes that ball off the
right field wall and it's five to two. You don't
there's no need to panic. I mean really, it's one
of those No, he's not punting on the thing. He's
not punting on the game. Five to two, and you
just don't even care. You're just gonna let.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
It get out of hand.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
No, he's thinking that our best option of like you said,
perfect way to put it, the best tourniquet for the
wound that he created is him versus Yeah, we're not
going to blow through. You're not bringing Brash in real quick,
you know, or even Gabe or Barzarre.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
No, Gabe was loosening at the time, but I think
once it got to five to two, it's like, I'm
not gonna use that right now. Do you use anything,
It's gonna be Vargas. And I don't know if I
trust Vargas more than I trust attired George.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Well, and yeah, you don't even know if he's tired,
he just was making mistakes or just as he was,
he was just not executing. And yet if you can
it's not that he wasn't saying like in the regular season,
we're gonna try to get him through five or we're
gonna you gotta eat innings, because in the regular season
you can't go one hundred and sixty two games and
then blow starters out in the second third inning because
they run into trouble.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
You your bullpen arms will fall off. Yeah, and so
you have to do that. But now that you've done.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
That throughout the regular season, you can use your bullpen
a little bit more. You can expect to stretch them
out a little bit more, and there's built in off days,
but you still have to think. You got back to
back to back games here at home, and so if
you fall behind and you don't think, hey, I don't
want to blow you know, my highest leverage guys right here,
then your next best option is get through it. And
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he ends up kind of getting through it and then
gets ambushed a couple more times to make it seven
ye and then basically walks a guy. All right, you're
out of the game, and Vargas gives up that run
and some more runs. So it just ended up the
damn broke and then the floodwaters came and it is
what it is, but it isn't necessarily Oh I have
to find someone to blame. The blame is George Kirby
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will take it. Yeah, I didn't execute. They were too comfortable, yep.
All right, Well make that adjustment next time you face them,
or next time you're out there on the bump, make
that adjustment because you can. You're going to go up
against good hitting teams the rest of the way. You
make a bunch of mistakes, you're gonna pay for it.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah, yeah, you don't have to. If you have to
blame somebody. You don't have to search far. The six
foot five inch skinny pitcher in the backgrounds raising his hands.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Yeah, he's like, yeah, so don't look elsewhere. Yeah, just
over here. I did entertain when we hit the back
to back home runs. I did lean over to Benton
and I said, how.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Awesome would it be if we had ten in a
row of these?
Speaker 5 (30:53):
I beg that would be the coolest thing ever in
the history of not just sports but mankind.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
And we've still just been tied. Yeah, I don't care.
I said, we just need eight more or whatever it was.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
And I was like, and then in my mind I
was like, could we do it?
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Maybe that would be amazing. I don't have happened, no,
but I would have been there for it.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
That would have been the greatest single moment in the
history of sports.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
But yeah, yeah, idea, universe, we just need.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
Two more Grand Slams. I was like, Okay, yeah, two
Grand slams.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Load of fire them off. Still just Grand slams, No
big deal. Uh, tonight five thirty eight, first pitch game four,
So still a chance to get accomplished. What you'd like
to get accomplished here, and that's to take two out
of three at home and win the whole damn series.
Uh So, Luis Castillo will get the ball for the MS.
I love the rock sign that he gave during the
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player introductions. That was nice, just so subtle, just so cool.
And he's going up against Max Scherzer, and that is
a talking point. We need to talk about Max Scherzer
at some point during the course of our show. So
five thirty eight, first pitch tonight, Game four of the ALCS.
More on that coming up on the program, but not
all we're going to discuss today. As a matter of fact,
(32:09):
Monday night football is coming pretty fast. And that Houston
Texans team, what a weird study they are early in
this year. We'll talk about what makes them interesting.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Next.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ A r F.
Speaker 8 (32:21):
M hid Bye's gonna be away at seven o'clock this.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Morning, David Softy Maller will be with us at seven
oh five. He's gonna be fine. He's gonna be fine,
and if he's not, he's not going to be so
far gone that we can't bring him back to fine.
I just talked to him, yeah, briefly.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
Yeah, yeah, I think I think he's gonna be all right, Right,
He's okay.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
It's a right guy. He's a right guy, emotional guy.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Guy.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah, we'll keep him. We'll keep him on the street.
I do love him. Yeah, we need him, We need him.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
Yeah, everyone needs Softy in their lives.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
So Softy joins. At seven oh five, we'll talk Mariners,
will also of course talk Huskies, which is the original
design of the whole conversation anyway, but we'll get that
to that at seven oh five. And we got to
talk some Seahawks today as well. We're getting closer and
closer to Monday Night Football. That's going to be fun
part of a double header on Monday Night football, which
I don't really like. Monday night football should be a
(33:28):
little more sacred than that. It's just one game, and
if we have the Monday night football game, I want
everybody to be watching us. I don't even want to
be a part of a double header where the first
game will be over. I don't know why they're doing
that in the National Football League, but they're doing it
way too frequently. At least we're not going head to
head against another game. That's just a slap in the face.
But the it should be a really good game, and
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the Seahawks four and two at this point, the Houston
Texans are two and three. What an interesting study they are.
They're supposed to be pretty good.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
C J.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Stroud is supposed to be bounce back from his sophomore
slump season and get back on the track of being
one of the top young quarterbacks in the National Football League.
But they got off to an zero to three start.
They could not score points against teams that are really good.
At the Rams home against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who
they lost by one point two, and then at Jacksonville
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and it turns out Jacksonville's a little bit better than
what people thought, and they lost that by a score.
Then they win twenty six to nothing over the Titans,
and okay, nice win, but we can pick that apart
because it's the Titans and they're obviously in a bad way. Hell,
they fired their coach one week later, and then they
win forty four to ten over the Ravens. They're back right. Well,
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that was the Cooper Rush led Ravens, and that's a
completely different team than the Lamar Jackson led Ravens, And
so I think that Houston might be the biggest question
mark in the entire National Football League?
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (34:58):
How good are you? Are you even good? As they
get ready to play Monday night. One thing that's pretty
clear about them they play some defense. They are number
one in the National Football League in points allowed and
it's not even close. They are allowing twelve point two
points per game. And people when they think of Houston Bucky,
they think of CJ. Stroud, Nico Collins and the offensive
(35:19):
names because everybody plays fantasy football, but Damiko Ryans is
a defensive minded head coach. He took the league by
storm two years ago. And even though he doesn't have
his offense clicking, he certainly has what he does best clicking.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
Yeah, I mean it's in my other couple of fantasy leagues.
I picked up that defense because it's crazy talented. I
mean you think about the guys the was it Stingley
out there on the outside. But then they have a
couple did the Hunter and will Anderson getting after the passer?
Speaker 3 (35:50):
I mean they have some dudes.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
I mean they've spent some draft capital on some guys
that are coming to fruition. I would not sleep on
this team because, like you said, their record says oh,
maybe this is a team you should most certainly beat,
But the reason they lost some close games where they
were playing some tough competition the first few weeks of
the season. Since then they've rebounded, and maybe it's against
(36:14):
two subpar teams, But at the same time, I have
a feeling that they're not trying to lose the momentum
that they've gained right now, not to regardless of who they're
going up again.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Make for a fascinating matchup. We will certainly be talking
about it a lot more tomorrow, and then Monday will
do basically Friday, and then Tuesday will do basically Monday
of next week. So Seahawks Texans this Monday night, as
we get ready for a brand new week in the
National Football League that starts tomorrow. Headlines David Softy Mallert
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