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October 16, 2025 34 mins
- We still have a lot to talk about when it comes to last night’s Game 3. The Mariners crowd showed out and Julio got them all fired up right away, but by the 3rd inning, things shifted dramatically and Toronto rattled off 12 runs in a row. Did the Mariners make the right decision to keep Kirby in and moving forward, what’s the plan? :30- ABCs of the Mariners - D id for Dingers: all dingers have a different value to them; what value could we potentially place on Randy Arozarena’s late home run? It was his first in 107 at-bats, could it be just what he needs to get heated up? - E is for Ewok: Vlad Jr is the most intimidating presence in the Blue Jays lineup, but that Ewok behind the plate (Alejandro Kirk) is worrisome as well. - F is for Fresh: is there a chance that a couple weeks off were actually good for Woo and he comes out fresher than before? :45- Jedd Fisch has a big game ahead of him on Saturday; can the Huskies pull off the upset in Ann Arbor? Just how big would this win be and could the Huskies enter the playoff conversation if they beat Michigan? Jedd Fisch rumors are already flying…

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I need Luis Castillo to go out there like he's
the best freaking picture, walk in the face of the
freaking earth and shove it right up their knuck asses tonight.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
That's what I need.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Chuck it back in the Morning's here on this Thursday,
Chuck Powell, former Marin Or, Bucky Jacobs and Ashley Ryan
with you. We roll into our eight o'clock hour. Normally
this is where we do a twelve man round table,
but of course with the American League Championship Series gripping
the city, we are pushing that off a little bit.
We do have Monday night football coverage for you with

(00:47):
Hugh and Coach and Greg coming up on Monday, and
then of course reaction on Tuesday. So it's just the
schedule a little bit. And oh, by the way, our
baseball team's two wins away potentially from its first ever
World Series appearance, so it seems to be on people's
minds a little bit, just a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Oh that's going on right now? It is, Bucky, Yeah, yeah, yeah, interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
I probably should pay attention to Probably should have looped
you in on the company emails.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, I guess I should look at those. Usually there's
it's nothing but worthless information. But I did not know
there was playoffs going on.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Number one, I totally get you just ignoring email. Totally
get that. But number two, I really think you should
be aware of this stuff that's going on the baseball
team and the whatnot. You try to plug myself in.
I think you'd enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah. Well, and also I think you used to play baseball,
didn't you.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, yeah, a long time ago.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, so yeah you might. Really you might find it fun.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
You might get into it and get check out of it.
Do you play again tonight tonight? Yeah, I'll give her
a shot. Then. Yeah, I'd like for you to do.
Because you're co hosting with me on the post game show.
It would be nice if you had like a foundation
of knowledge to work all.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
All right, Well, then I'll watch for that reason.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
I thought of that part.

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(02:23):
will provide it again for you this evening. The first
pitch of the game is five thirty eight Luis Castillo,
who better shop it? Taking on Max Scherzer in tonight's
Game four of the American League Championship Series. But a
lot of you just waking up this morning, just joining
us here at eight o'clock, and certainly last night's game

(02:44):
has has a lot to discuss about. It. A loss
thirteen to four to the Toronto Blue Jays last night.
So after taking two games in Toronto, the Blue Jays
come to Seattle and we're rather rude house guests. They
rattled off at one point point twelve consecutive runs and
ran away with game number three. It just didn't feel
that way early on. I mean number one, Toronto tried

(03:09):
to invade Team Mobile like they do so successfully during
the regular season every year. It didn't happen. Mariner fans
were like, okay, no during the regulars, whatever, you're not
doing it now. So it was just all Mariner fans
last night. I mean, yeah, the Blue Jay's fans made
their way in, but they were silent, even with a

(03:30):
thirteen to four win. It was still loud ass Mariner
fans taken up every seat last night. So that was
great to see that, to hear that, to feel that,
to taste that. And then Julio Rodriguez, it's a two
run homer in the first inning and just unloaded on
a pitch from Shane Bieber, and you thought, man, we

(03:51):
really are this is gonna be three Oh, isn't it.
I mean, it just felt like you had all the
momentum in the world. And then that came crashing down
In the third inning, Toronto irerupted for five runs against
George Kirby. He really Bucky had shown, knowing any indication
that that was coming, hadn't really allowed a hard hit
ball in the first two innings. He put two zeros up.

(04:13):
We've seen him perform so excellently in the playoffs whenever
he's made it, whenever he's made an appearance. And then
when Toronto got to him, man did they get to him.
There wasn't anything cheap about those hits in the third inning.
I mean, they rocked George Kirby, and George, to his
own admission, has nobody else to blame but himself.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, And I mean it was surprising, and it happened fast.
I mean, you're talking about the bottom of the arder,
the eight nine guys, right, and he makes a good
pitch to Clement. I mean it was off the plate
in and he kind of muscles it down for a double. Okay, fine,
no big deal, leadoff double. You can pitch around that.
You got a two zero lead. And then but it's

(04:56):
two pitches later, bang, a guy who doesn't have very
many home runs, not a power guy. Jimenez is not
a power guy, but he absolutely smokes one. Now you're tied,
and you're like, okay, all right, well new vaulgame. Yeah,
I wasn't expecting us to just chip away or just
you know, tack on and win eight to zero. I
was not expecting that. And then that wouldn't be interesting.

(05:16):
So of course they're not going to do that. And
then he gets an out and then it's single double.
Now all of a sudden, that's when he starts making
the mistakes. To me, it was the Jimenez ball was
a mistake. He was trying to go up and in
there he left it down and in and he didn't
have a very big nitro zone. But George found it,
and then he starts making mistakes to Luke's and and

(05:38):
and Vlad and and all of a sudden, next thing,
you know, you get into that situation where it looked
like he maybe he was going to get off the hook.
He had bases loaded, and he gets that ground ball.
That's the tough part, getting out the one out bases
loaded jam. But now a pass ball or it's a
wild pitch because he spikes it, but cal tries backhanding
and that one gets by him a little bit and

(05:59):
then boom, and pitches later, another ball laced off the wall,
and next thing you know, it's five to two. So
it happened quick. And yet so I mean, I don't
he didn't look horrible. He just wasn't sharp.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Man. Well, he certainly looked fine, like you were buckled
in for all right, good luck coming back two. Nothing
deficiting if George is on his game, and it kind
of felt like he was on his game. And then man,
that's the that's sort of the knock on George is
that a little bit of rain soaks him and sometimes

(06:33):
in George's head, if I made the pitch that I
wanted to execute, you should not get a hit. That
should not.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Happen, not the way is this supposed to work.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, you know, I can't strand people that get lucky,
and so George has a little bit of that in him.
So I don't know if that affected him or not.
That maybe he thought I made the right pitch to
Clement and then lost a little bit of focus to
Ajmenez and next thing you know, you're tied, and then
it looked like he might get out of it. And

(07:03):
then Cal really did botch the wild pitch. I mean,
it goes as a wild pitch, but Cal stops that
ninety nine times out of maybe nine hundred and ninety
nine times out of a thousand. Why he tried to
backhand that that's not that's not my Cal Rawley, you know,
And yet so I don't know of that then got
George distracted, But he really doesn't have anybody to blame

(07:25):
him it himself. He was off, he was missing his spots,
and the Blue Jays just absolutely tattooed him. And then
from that point forward, you know, I know a lot
of people were like, get him out of the game.
Really put Dan Wilson in a really difficult situation because
It happened so quickly and so unexpectedly that you're sitting

(07:45):
there thinking to yourself, well, we do have a two
game cushion here, and we're down three, and it's the
third inning. It's not Spire time, it's not Brash time,
it's not Moonyo's time. Certainly, it's not even Bizardo time.
Right here, down three in the bottom of the third.
I realized you went Bizardo in the fourth inning in Toronto,

(08:07):
but that was you know, that was tied at that point.
But down three, and so you're gonna go to your
second group of relievers. And I just think that Dan
Wilson at that time said, is George Kirby not still
our best opportunity if down three, to keep it down three,

(08:30):
then to go to a Carlos Vargas here, or to
a Caleb Ferguson here, or a Luke Jackson here, So
I think, or to you know, really throw a curveball
and put Brian Wu into the game. I think that
the decision was just made that you know that George
created this problem and he might be our best chance
of getting out of it. And then you give up

(08:51):
solo home runs and the fourth and the fifth, and
then at that point it's like, all right, spire Munos Brash,
you can just leave the park. Yeah, you know, because
we're going to get through this without any of you,
so that we have all of you for Games four
and Games five. So I think it snuck up on
him quickly, and then at that point, I think he

(09:13):
just had more faith that George could get the job
done to keep it five to two than to turn
things over in the fourth inning to Carlos Vargas or
Caleb Ferguson. I think that's the bottom line. So I
don't think he made a mistake. And I know a
lot of people are angry and want to point the
finger and thought he mismanaged it and everything else, But
I don't think Dan made a mistake. I think he
was just trying to make the best out of a

(09:34):
situation that got out of control quickly.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, well it's snowballed quick And I'm with you on
I think that it was probably the right choice, even
though it looks horrible. It looks like it got worse
and really got out of control.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
I think five to two, you're still in the ballgame,
But that doesn't mean I'm necessarily wanting to blow my
best shoot my best bullets. Right, you're still down three.
You don't no for sure if you're going to even
be able to tie the ball game up or so
you want to keep it there, And so what's my
best choice without blowing you know, the bizardo and brash

(10:10):
and just like, you're not going to do that when
you're losing five to two early in the ballgame, especially
when I think that they had they believed that he
could get it done. And he gives up that double
after it just kind of boom. Then there's some of
the water starts flooding over, and then he gets the
next guy out, and then he comes back out the
next inning and strikes out the first two guys before

(10:31):
getting ambushed by George the Hated Springer for a home
run to make it sixty two. Now six to two,
not a drastic difference from five to two, and then
he gets the next guy out, and then the next
inning he basically has Lad come up and ambushes him
first pitch again for another homer. Now it's seven too
So anybody that's sitting there saying, whoa, he just let
it go way too long it's like, but he was
getting outs in between there, and he made mistakes to

(10:55):
good hitters and guys that are really hot. So I'm
fine with it, and I do think that it's not
a well, we'll just punt this game. The game started
getting into where now we're not we're we are kind
of punting.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
They got to the point, Oh, you're playing the percentages.
That's what all managerial decisions are. You're playing the percentages.
What percentage chance do we have of coming back? And
is it worth using guys that probably will be more
beneficial in games four and five to us than having
to try to save this game already down by three
or down by four or down by five. Those were

(11:31):
the decisions that went into it. So, I mean, you
could have brought Vargas in I suppose to start the
fourth inning. I don't know if that would have saved
the day. I don't think that it would have. I
think that, Like I said, I don't think that I
have a problem with the decisions that were made last night.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
No, under circumstances. Ultimately, you came into the series saying, okay,
we got to win four out of seven, right, and
then you win two and you'll get to go home
saying we just have to win two out of five
five remaining games. We just have to win two more
and then you drop one and yeah to a good team.
And so it's understandable that you're out of three games,
you're gonna lose one of these bad boys, but it's

(12:11):
still you find yourself, we got to win two out
of four games. They have to win three out of
four games. That is still a nice advantage that you've
granted yourself by going and went into it their place,
But none of that counts for today's zero zeros will
get her done well.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
And yeah, that's the thing too, is I think so
many people are like, well, now that we've lost a game,
you know, then you start to kind of whar your panic.
But if you looked at this series realistically, you should
have never thought that the Mariners were just going to
steamroll the Blue Jays.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
That offense, if you.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Watched any of the Alds their game, their games with
New York, that offense is potent. And we knew that
it wasn't going to just stay quiet. We weren't going
to just shut them down the entire series. You can't
do that. They're too good.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, they're good. They're a good team. Uh, they're a
good team, and they can certainly do that to you,
as they showed the Yankees, and they there won't anything
cheap about that. I mean, they had five home runs
last night for goodness sake. And Vladimir Guerrero, we didn't
get him out all evening and we know how dangerous
he is, and he should have had a triple. Apparently
the he said that the third base coach told him

(13:13):
not to come. Nobody's ever had a cycle.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, and the history of that one person has.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
No not in the history of the Illeague championship series.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Oh, I thought it was one person.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Maybe that was one person in playoff history, brock Holt,
But nobody has ever done it in a league championship series. Ten.
I think you'd probably go for that, lad, But you know,
if you're gonna be lazy, yeah, I suppose you can
just settle with two doubles, a homer, a walk, and
a single. Yeah, if you're that type, if you're the
type that settles for stuff.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, maybe he just wanted to piss Aaron Goldsmith off Settler.
It's like, I don't want I know, they're play by
play guy really loves these. I'm not going to give
him anything to be pumped about.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Goldsmith like this will be this whole evening will be
saved if I can just watch that hit a cycle.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
So why aren'd you going?

Speaker 1 (14:04):
And if somehow Luke Jackson could throw an immaculate inning
before this nine game nine, Ron definit did not. He
didn't know he did not, all right, So does it
affect the way that Dan Wilson's now going to implement
George Kirby going forward? I think that if you have

(14:25):
four starters, just four starters that you trust, then you
have no problem bringing back George Kirby. I mean, they
obviously have a lot of faith in the dude. They
mapped it out so that he would theoretically pitch game
number seven in this series. They mapped it out so
he started the divisional round and that he pitched against

(14:46):
Schooble in game number five if it came to it.
So they obviously have an immense amount of trust in
George Kirby at this time of the year. But that's
with four starters. We might have five starters now now
that Bryce Miller is a give me the ball, let
me show you what I can do? Do you perhaps

(15:08):
adjust that going forward? Considering all the elements that Bryce
Miller has stepped up, that Brian Wu says he's healthy
and ready to go, and that George is coming off
a game in which Toronto tattooed him. Does that change
the way that you structure the rest of this rotation?
We know Castillo's going tonight, nothing's going to change that

(15:30):
and that. But by game five it was WU tentatively
and now they're talking about using him in the bullpen potentially.
But does it change now because of the three elements
I discussed, would you map it out differently the rest
of the way.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
I mean, part of me would think about it. At
the same time, I'm not doubting if I need, if
I need to go to George Kirby in game seven. Okay, Now,
if we're gonna think, okay, hypothetically Wu's ready to rock
and roll at some point game five, game six. Whenever
you think that, okay, then maybe you don't have to.
I'll just say this, It's a good conversation to have,

(16:06):
and they're having them. Dan Wilson and Woodworth and the
Jerry and just are having these conversations. But you're not
writing anything in penn. You're writing Louis Castillo and Penn,
and that's it. You don't you got an idea, You've
written johned a bunch of different stuff down. Part of
me is actually thinking the idea of Wu coming in
out of the bullpen is probably going to be the

(16:29):
way we're going to see him next.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
And if that's the.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Case, then it's it's Castillo, and then it's Miller, and
then it's Logan, and if you need it, then it's George. Yes,
that's the way that I think they right now have
everything Louis Castill and pen everything else in pencil, because
you don't know when and where you're going to need
to use, whether it's Brian Wu or you might move

(16:52):
somebody up. You might say, no, I'm going Logan in
game five, and I'll move Bryce Miller to game six
if I have to. You're because you're not messing with
a whole bunch of rest. You're gonna have some days off.
You've had days off in between these the traveling from
Toronto to here. So yes, I'm I'm. I probably would
have a big whiteboard with all a bunch of arrows

(17:14):
drawn all over the place, and yet none of it
other than today, is am I real certain about how
I'm gonna do it?

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah? Like John Nash, you know, beautiful mind the thing
all sorts of theorem and goodwill hunting kind of math
problems up on the board, dance trying to figure it out.
So yeah, I'm with you, and believe me. They go
beyond that. They go through all the scenarios certainly of hey,
if this happens in this situation, who do we bring

(17:41):
in here? So they map all of that out. But sometimes,
like last night, something happens that you just didn't see
in your formulas. You just didn't introduce. Hey, in the
third George Kirby's gonna give up about one thousand line drives.
It's just something that you don't factor in. But it
does change the equation because now now all of a sudden,
you're like, we could theoretically avoid the possibility that the

(18:05):
Blue Jays have a book on George Kirby, and we
could avoid that by just if we have faith and
Wu Castillo, Wu Miller Gilbert for game number seven. And
of course what we're hoping for is that we don't
even play a game step. Yeah, that we've wrapped it
up long before. Then I'll take game five Friday night.

(18:26):
I'll go ahead and take that as a you know,
if we're gonna.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Register wishes, put a bow on it.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, let's just wrap it up and then then we'll
start having the conversation about who starts game number one
of the next round.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yeah, thank you for calling it the next round, the.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Next round of the tournament, all right, coming up next,
ABC's of them Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
It's art and social media, because that's kind of what
social media is that you want. They want you to
take pictures and send them out. So I'm trying to
do my best yesterday, and so I'm trying to take
a photo of some scene outside the ballpark yesterday as
I get to the stadium four hours early, for goodness sake,

(19:03):
and I'm trying to size up my photo, and I'm
not good at taking pictures. And there's three people that
I start walking into the frame and I'm my good lord,
get out.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Of the way.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
I'm trying to take a picture.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
And I take down my phone and it's Tim Kirkchin,
Karl Ravich and Edward o Perez.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Oh just snap that one.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Okay, yeah, maybe not a bad far.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Might I might have and didn't even realize it. You
never know what you're gonna see him baseball. I'm just
walking out of the stadium. There's this guy trying to
take a picture of something entirely different. He suddenly's taking
photos of me and Carl and his hair piece.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
He to get the hell out of the way.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
I've got yelled after.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Just walk into the ballpark. That's Tim for you.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
That's Kirkchon all right. ABC's the DMS we left off
of the letter D yesterday. Das for dingers. All dingers
have different kind of values to them, There's no question
about it. Jim in Az his dinger had a pretty
good value to it yesterday. Turns out Julio's not so much.
But I'm wondering the value that we could potentially place

(20:12):
on what seemed like a meaningful moment in a thirteen
to four blowout. Yesterday, Randy rose Arena finally hit a
home run. It's his first and one hundred and seven
at bats. It's been a long time since Randy has
felt that groove, that swing to put on a baseball
where it leaves the yard. I mean, he hit twenty

(20:32):
seven of them during the course of the season, looked
like he was well on his way to a thirty
thirty season, and he ends up not hitting another home
run for a month and it's extended into the playoffs.
I mean, this is a guy that has authored one
of the greatest postseasons in the history of baseball, that
he is just I mean, he's had a couple walks
here and a hit by pitch and some stolen bases,

(20:54):
and he's made a nice defensive grab in Toronto, but
he's not doing damage. Does what kind of value do
you place on a guy that's accustomed to doing damage
with his bat hasn't done it for a while, And
even if it was a meaningless home run late in
the game, does that potentially remind Randy or Rose Arena

(21:15):
in his mechanics of Oh, that's how it's done. Okay,
don't worry, guys, I got it now.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
It can It doesn't guarantee it, and I hope it does,
because yeah, I mean, you can go from scuffling, and
he has been scuffling. He hasn't been contributing as much
as we would like. Now he's had some moments that
have been helpful in some of these wins. Played eight
games and you've won more than you've lost, and so

(21:42):
you know, he's gotten some hit by pitches or some
walks and some decent abs and stole some bags and
scored some runs, but he hasn't done the damage. And
a lot of times it does take for sometimes guys
that aren't supposed to hit for power. JP Crawford in particular,
he'll hit one out and you've said it before, or like,
oh no, now he's going to try to do that again.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
I told the guy in Detroit, the beat writer sitting
next to me, I said, well, if you're rooting for
the Tigers to win this game, don't worry about JP
Crawford anymore. He's done for the playoffs. There's times and
he will you'll get into a little bit of shit.
A home run and now he's a home run.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
I like doing that. Yeah, God, I like doing it too.
But certain guys should try and certain guys shouldn't. I
think Randy's kind of a he's a mixture, right. He's
a guy that can hit, but he's a guy that
has some serious pop too. And you put him the
lineup because you want him to do damage, but you
also want him to be a catalyst for the guys
behind him, and he hasn't been doing that part, or

(22:39):
the doing damage part, very well. So yeah, it can.
It can turn into you take a swing and you're like, ooh,
that's because that's basically what he went to sleep with
was that swing. It was a good pitch to hit.
He had taken one in the exact same spot earlier
in the bat. He took strike one right down the middle,
took strike two in that up and in spot a
little bit, and then later on in the ab got

(23:00):
that same pitch and capitalized on it. It can be
a Okay, that felt right. I get with that. Obviously
it felt right. But if it clicks, then yeah, you
could see you could see a little bit of a turnaround.
That would be hugely important.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Let's have that. Yeah, do you like the way I
pronounced dingers? Dingers? Not really? You just don't mess with
home run glossary terms around this, you know, Ashley, you
better say it the right way.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
You better should dingers And made immediately go to like, oh,
Dingers like Dingler.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
That's what I did think up to is Dylan Dingler first,
but then I realized what you were doing, and I
thought it was.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yes, he is for e Walk. I realized that h
Vladimir Guerrero Junior is the most intimidating presence in the
Toronto Blue Jays lineup. But man, that e Walk that
they put it catcher, he is just he is just
he's a rough customer. I mean, he worries me as

(23:58):
much as Vladimir Guerrero Junior in a big moment. Yeah,
he just knows how to hit. He just gets the
back to the ball. He's he's like Altuve but fatter. Yeah,
like a lot fatter.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
It's like two all two bays next to each other.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, he's like two A al three ve maybe al
four A. Uh yeah, he does. He worries me too.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Him.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
He's and he hasn't been hitting most of this postseason.
And yet there was an ab in one of the
games in Toronto where he went the other way, line
drive the other way, and I'm like, oh, because he's
he understands the the length through the zone and that's
why he is as good of a hitter as he is.
He's not just a pole guy, but he also is
swinging to do damage on a regular basis, and he

(24:40):
gets that chubby Ewok body behind it and hit it out.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Also, I feel like the Ewoks are way cuter. That's
kind of an insult. Oh they're adorable. Yeah, Wicked is
the cutest Ewok of all time.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
I know I'm going to get a bunch of hate
mail from Ewoks.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Yeah, yeah, Wicked because he does have a big.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
I'm sorry e Walk community.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
And for the record, no one on my pool league
team has a worse physique than that.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
I think Ryan Heally had some really gross assumptions. I
don't really know.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
He thinks, ah, my friends are chubby like.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
Well, to be fair, it was at a pool league,
so it's what you don't really think.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
Of, like athletic prowess at the bar plain pool you don't.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yeah, well that was the point, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
I still think that porthouse number one before.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
It's not like he was just like, oh, do you
think Bucky's friends are all fat?

Speaker 1 (25:31):
What it is? I wasn't exactly setting a high bar
for their physiques, yeah, exactly comparing them, and he was
setting a very low bar and he thought that's beneath that. Yeah,
I don't appreciate. I love how your rallied did. The
defense of your buddies really means a lot to them.
Deserve they appreciated it. And uh, finally for fresh, I mean,

(25:52):
all this consternation about Brian Wu, will he be right
once this number is called? I mean, is there a
chance that cup weeks off and little wear and tear
and the peck's perfectly fine, and he comes out fresher
than ever when he does pitch again, Oh more fresher
than we've seen him. I'll tell you this about Brian Wu.
He is very self aware of like how the whole

(26:14):
machine works, that is Brian Wu. I mean, remember all
last year. I mean he'd take himself out of games.
I guess something's not right, something not right. I mean
he never went He never really got to the point
like he was injured for any really amount of time
last year, But he was aware enough of when his
body was out of sync that to avoid serious injury.

(26:37):
I think I need to shut this downskip. So is
there a chance that maybe this guy just knows his
body really well. And if he's telling us I'm ready
to go, We're gonna see the freshest Brian wu we've
seen since the All Star Game.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
There's a possibility. I don't know, and I wish I did.
I wish that, you know, they would just be one
hundred percent truthful and that they kind of can't and
don't necessarily want to, because you're not gonna say, oh,
I feel better than I've ever felt, and you're obviously
then you're also not going to be like, I'm not
one hundred percent, but I'm ready to rock and roll.
I don't one really prescribe to the idea of rust
and I don't. I just don't because I've I've done

(27:12):
it myself. I've missed months of time and then been
a little bit worried about, Man, this is I'm jumping
right back into the fire and felt great when I
did it, And then there's been other times that I've
struggled right out of the gate, and I don't necessarily think, well,
it's because of that, or it's because of that success
or failure. Sometimes it just happens. And yet I wouldn't
be surprised one bit if he comes out in the

(27:33):
first opportunity, gets just absolutely most people down. He does
it more often than not.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
He don't ask me, just so question clean, that's what
he's gonna say when he walks out there.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Oh he does. I do too, because first of all,
that'd be a really great take on your part. Make
a promo out of that if he does that, I will. Okay,
Ashley was Ashley was on that before it even happened.
All Right, we got Ryan Heay coming up at nine
o'clock and another a second day of surprise surprise for
Ryan Healey as well, coming up at nine o'clock today.

(28:04):
Coming up next, speaking of f fs for Fish, because
Jetfish has a big game this Saturday. Sports Radio ninety
three point three kja r FM similarly ranked to Washington
heading into this game, but a win at Michigan will
certainly propel the perspective that the national pundits will have

(28:25):
on Washington and whether or not they are ready to
take that next step. So big game, according to Softy
shows game coming up this Saturday, and I agree with him.
Nine am kickoff, nine am kickoff our time. It's the
big noon game on Fox. So that means Softy and
the honks will get started at six am on Saturday

(28:47):
right here at Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ
r FM. So big game for Jetfish. I mean he's
had a little bit a few of these milestones this year.
He was sort of given them a pass a year
ago and understandably so what you had to overcome in
that first full season. And then this year you've already

(29:07):
seen him win on the road, So we got that licked.
We saw him win on the road in conference. We've
seen that now, so you got that problem licked. But
where's that big win. Where's that big win on the road,
particularly if they get it. They're a top twenty five team,
no doubt next week, and as Softie also pointed out
earlier in our conversation with him, they do like legitimately

(29:31):
start entering that picture for maybe the word playoff being discussed.
So this is monstrous on Saturday, Yeah, oh yeah, big game.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
I mean if sitting at five and one, no signature
wins up to this point, and yet they're playing much
better football than they played a year ago. And so
I think some people are concerned why aren't they ranked?
And you can look at the rankings. I don't think
about the rankings a whole heck of a lot. Don't
put a lot of weight into them anyway, until you
get deeper into the season tour, it really starts mattering

(30:04):
whether or not you're in the conversation for making the playoffs.
And yet this is a game where if you go
in there and shock the world to some extent and
beat Michigan in the big House, even though it's not
the team that they had played, like Softy said a
couple years ago for the national title, it still is
a good team. And if you go in and chock them,

(30:25):
then you'll be ranked and another thing you can check
off the list.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Yeah, I definitely think you'll at least move into the
top twenty five.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
Whether or not you'll be in that playoff conversation, I
don't know, just given that you were twenty eight and
now you're just cracking the top twenty five, that might
be a little premature. But you need this win in
order to have any further success this season.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
I think, I mean, the playoff conversations too early anyway.
But if you do get this win, and considering how
light the schedule gets after this, yeah, I think you
can start thinking about how the dominoes might fall that
put you in a position when the time does come.
Yeah that okay, Yeah, I think without this you're not

(31:06):
going to enter that conversation. So it feels big. It
feels big on a lot of levels for this team
to go in there and get that win, certainly on
Saturday at Michigan. Here's the other thing that's happening, because
we're going to start seeing this as college football fans
a lot more like when the program decides we got
a lot of money invested in you and it's not

(31:27):
going the direction we want, guess what, we'll eat the money,
get out of town. We're seeing a lot of that happen.
James Franklin suddenly a free agent in the middle of
the season, and there are rumors this weekend that Billy
Napier is going to not make it through this weekend
at Florida. Well guess where Jedfish has been rumored to
go since he was at Arizona, much less Washington. So

(31:52):
whether there's any validity to it, the Jedfish rumors are
already flying. And maybe that's just because that's the reputation
Jetfish has carved out for himself because he's moved around,
he's been a vagabond in football. Maybe that just comes
with the territory, or maybe where there's smoke, there's a
little bit of fire. But between UCLA and Penn State

(32:15):
and now Florida maybe open this weekend, I mean, Jetfish
is getting linked everywhere to football programs. So I don't
know if that suggests that he's not one hundred percent
happy at Washington or Washington's not one hundred percent happy
with him. It probably has more to do with he
just moves around a lot, and so people put him

(32:36):
on their candidacy list every time there's a decent vacancy
that becomes available in college football. Well, we're gonna have
three really good vacancies by the end of the weekend potentially,
and it feels like Jetfish is being linked to all
of them.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, it's interesting because I don't I mean, Penn State obviously,
I think is considered obviously a blue blood, and maybe
more so than you dub Florida would say, probably is
in that same category, not gigantic leaps. It's not like
you know those that kind of understood how Klein debor
would maybe take the primo job in the country at Alabama.

(33:12):
I don't think that I'd put any of these in
those I definitely don't put UCLA in that, and yet
he's had connections to these places, but everywhere.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah, he's been around so much. He's got a connection
to almost every program, NFL or college. He's worked with
somebody or has a relationship with somebody. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah, And yet I would hope that there's something to
not loyalty because that's not the right word for it,
but something to. I don't want to keep picking up
and trying to put down roots and then establish something.
I mean, last year couldn't have been super enjoyable. I mean,
we gave him a pass, and rightfully so. I mean,
you lost a ton of people to the NFL, and
then the win, you got hired, the transfer portal, all

(33:54):
that stuff. What an uphill battle. And yet he's done it,
and now there's a rebound. We're witnessing the rebound in
year two. I wouldn't want to go do that again
at another place. But who knows what he It depends
what he thinks is better. If he thinks than any
of these places are better, If two of them or
three of them, all three of them are better, we
shall see.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
All right. Well, coming up next on the program, Ryan
Healey has been a wonderful addition to our postseason coverage.
He's going to join us next and for the second
day in a row, we've got a surprise on deck
for Ryan Healey Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ RFM.
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