Headlines and 12th Man News with GREGG BELL (Tacoma News Tribune) Gregg is doing double-duty this week, so we cover the ALCS and MNF. Sam Darnold thus far and how healthy is the Seahawks secondary, plus the latest 12th man news. :30- Bryce Miller gets the start tonight and yes, he’s our #5, but if he’s anything like he has been in the playoffs so far, we are feeling pretty confident that he’s the right guy to go tonight. :35- We wrap up our week of fact or fiction picks with Ashley… she’d better not screw this up. :45- Game 5 is set for 3pm today, can the Mariners show up?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Right side, Rick whide to a shot from Montur turn aside,
the rebound stars Shane Wright the second chance off the
rebound and the krack.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And have a one nothing lead. Schwartz picks off the
buck down the slot.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Stevenson stars Stevenson down low Everly China shovel it in
turn aside rebound Stevenson stars Chandler. Stevenson left circle on
the power play gives the Crack in the lead back.
It's three to two and there goes old Mark off
to the bench. Extra attacker on here for Ottawa nearside
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Cousins scores.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Ottawa ties the game three three five.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Seconds to go in over the blue line Sanderson left circle,
his sud begged off the pots at the horn and
auto play.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
We're going to a shootout.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Shane Pentto can put it for the whole team right
hand a shot Shane Pencil from the red line carries
it over left side of the circle.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Now cuts back to the slot.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Walks In shoots scores. Peer bits you on the call
last night as the Crack and do get a point,
but for the second game in a row, they lose
beyond regulation play, this time to the Ottawa Senators. In
a shootout final score four to three. They have earned
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a point in all four of their games so far
this young season, and they will also be taking on
Toronto tomorrow. How about that boy, we got a score
to settle with Toronto. I'll tell you that much. Yeah,
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time for your headlines and of course, the top story today.
The Mariners do lose to the Toronto Blue Jays yesterday
(02:10):
by a final score of eight to two. Team has
been outscored twenty one to six since returning home with
a two to zero lead in the American League Championship
Series and now suddenly the series is even at two
games apiece, so it's a best of three and that
starts tonight at home or actually this afternoon three o'clock start.
(02:31):
Bryce Miller gets the call for the Mariners. He'll be
going up against Kevin Gosman. He is Kevin Gosman their
number one starter, but Bryce Miller has already bested him
once in this series. We'll look to do that again today,
starting at three o'clock. Headlines are brought to you by
Frostbrewed Corps, Light Shoes Chill. Los Angeles Dodgers are having
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an easy time with the team that finished with the
best record in baseball, the Milwaukee Brewers. The Dodgers won
yesterday three to one, so they are up three in
the series. Looks like they are certainly going to be
punching their ticket to the World Series soon. Krack and
I mentioned lost in a shootout. Huskies will be at
Michigan tomorrow nine am kickoff. Hanks will be on the
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air at six a m Seahawks won't play until Monday
night football against the Texans. Cincinnati started the new week
of the National Football League season with a surprising thirty
three p thirty one win over Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers'
first matchup in NFL history featuring two starting quarterbacks both
over the age of forty. From what I understand of course,
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a huge schedule on Sunday and then a double header
on Monday, which I'm not sure I really like. Let's
ask Greg Bell about it. Saw Greg and the food
line last night. Didn't see him much beyond that, So yeah,
not exactly the ideal situation last night. There was it there, Gregor.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
No. It reminded me how suddenly baseball change. It's unlike
you got to wait seven days the postseason for baseball
changes so quickly. And that's what the Toronto guys were
talking about. And now it's the series is completely on
its head, as you said, best of three, and that's
what the Mariner show connect to. It's what Kyle Rally
(04:17):
said in the clubhouse after the game, and Pryce Miller
has if he can duplicate what he did in Toronto
on Sunday, then there'll be one win away again. But yeah,
it's Toronto has gone from doing nothing to everything offensively.
That's pitching for the Mariners just has not been able
to make any pitches they want to make.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
It is strange, though, Bucky, like, it doesn't seem like
there's momentum in this sport, even though teams do put
together ten game eighteen game winning streaks or you know,
fifteen game losing streaks, And every time I bring it
up to a guy that played at the major league level,
they're always no, no, no, it's there. It's just different.
I don't really know how to explain it, because, believe me,
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Toronto and their fans were thinking their goose was cooked
when they left Toronto to come here. They thought they
that the series was over. So it's not like something
unique to just Marinder fans when they watch back to
back subpar performances. Believe me, Toronto and the national people
thought the series we had Harold Reynolds on I don't
see a path for the Blue Jays to come back,
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and here we are to tom nothing.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Yeah, yeah, I mean to me, it feels like it's
because there's so many opportunities, like to what Greg's kind
of saying, like in football, you gotta wait six days
and you got to wait a week to play. So
even if you're you won three four games in a row,
it's like we do we have momentum. We have played
for a week, whereas in baseball it's like you can
you can snap that momentum and then next thing you know,
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you have it and the next day you have it again.
And yet it can turn.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
On a dime.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
It's it can turn on a dime.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
It's basically the momentum builds every single game from one
pitch to the next.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
That's the beauty.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
It's true. Every game is its own edits in the
playoffs exactly when we least SkyDome Monday Night whatever they
call it now, Rogers Center, I think it rebuilding in
Canada's colled to Rodgers Center. They were the staffers are saying, yeah,
we're not coming back. Yeah, we're closing it up. I'll
see you next spring. They were just they were gonna
pack the park up and be done. They didn't pick
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their coming back either.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, they turned on a dime once they can do
it again. Greg Bell with us our Seahawks insider, but
he has been covering the Mariners for the News Tribune
throughout the playoffs. Here, all right, so we don't play
until Monday nights. I don't know how you feel about this,
but it's not like a selfish Seahawk thing. It's not
like we I have to have the Seahawks have the
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stage to themselves. But shouldn't Monday night be precious shouldn't
there only be one game on Monday night football for
goodness sake.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Yeah, and there shouldn't be Thursday games, so there shouldn't
be Friday games.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Scratch that itch again.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Yes, there shouldn't be a ten o'clock eastern, seven o'clock
Pacific game. I think this will be the latest Seahawks
home game ever because they've never had this doubleheader backside
doubleheader at a Seahawks home game before. And so to
land after ten o'clock, and yeah, I'll get out of
the Stateium at one o'clock and may have just flown
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in from Toronto, may not, may still be in Toronto
and someone else might be covering the Seahawks game for
the news tribute. I don't know yet. But as far
as the players, they're on West Coast time, they live here,
it doesn't matter. It may matter a bit to Houston bodyclockwise.
They're playing at nine o'clock Houston time. First kickoff is
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at nine o'clock. But once they play, they they're professionals,
it won't matter. But for fans, yeah, it's reminds me
of the Huskies and all the eight o'clock starts. And
at least there's no sale gaming to ruin. I guess
for seven o'clock Seahawks start well.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
See, I mean you sitting a fourn too, and kind
of feeling probably, I would imagine, fairly good about coming
off of that win against Jacksonville. I mean, is it
are we far enough into this to just basically say, yep,
Sam Donald's that's our franchise quarterback moving forward.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I mean for the foreseeable future anyways, foreseeable future.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Yes, And there's no reason to think that they won't
out of the second third year of his contracts. We
know he could, he could, They see us could get
out of it relatively cheaply in the next year and
next year after that. You know, it's a three year deal.
But so far he's been one of the best quarterbacks
in the league. And again what's surprising is he's doing
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it not by design. They were going to run the ball.
They're still going to run the ball, but they were
gonna run the ball more effectively. That was the whole
idea of Clint Kubiak coming here, and they signed Sam
Donald to be a complimentary quarterback off the run game
play action, pass, bootlegs, run, run, run, throw, and they
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just run a little bit, not much then throw throw,
So it has been not by design, which has perhaps
been even more impressive that he has carried them and
that wasn't what they thought when they signed him. They
are vowing to do what they've been doing so far,
which is to continue to run. It's becoming interesting about
the Zach Charbona Kenneth Walker snapcount splits and a lot
(09:22):
of fans are saying, why is Sharbonee getting the ball
when he is the lowest yards for carrying the league.
I think it's two point one or two point six
or something. And the answer McDonald won't come right and
say it, but the answer is they're trying to get
Walker through all seventeen games. They've talked about the foot
issue he has and it's a long term thing that
they are really managing through games. And you'll see Charboney
(09:44):
get entire series, usually in the second quarter, plus he
gets all the two minutes, plus he gets the third
down reps. And so when you combine all of those
and if they're in two minute quite a bit or
succeeding in two minutes with first downs, those snapstars to
add up, and all of a sudden he's got more
than Walker does, even though Walker has more productivity. So
(10:06):
when you're screaming, why is twenty six on the field,
it's because they're trying to get nine through the whole season.
And it appears that they think if they gave him
the bell cow load that he would break down and
won't be able to play in the next game. And that,
in the simplest terms, is why the splits are what
they are despite the production.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Greg Mel is with US Seahawks. Insight can follow him
at g mel Seattle, and right now he's doing double
duty covering the Mariners and the Seahawks who won't play
until Monday night against the Houston Texans. Is that extra
day at all valuable and trying to get Witherspoon and
Love on the field. How whole will the secondary be
(10:43):
by Monday night?
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Yeah? I think it does matter. And in fact, Witherspoon
and Love were practicing yesterday. They were both listed as
limited participants. I saw Love at the beginning of practice
moving around pretty well, and he hadn't practiced in a
couple of weeks. Riek Wollen was full apparently through the
concussion protocol, and they'll see how he respond to going
(11:05):
a full participant in practice since first time since the
concussion two games ago, but all three of them practicing
four days before the game suggests that they're going to
all three play and their secondary will be whole, and
that will help because they haven't had a whole secondary
since the first half of the first game, because Witherspoon
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got hurt in the second half colliding with Josh Job
when Joeb intercepted brock Purty way back on September seventh,
and since then, Witherspoon's only played two of six games.
The first game they got hurt, and he came back
through the Arizona game September twenty fifth, and then hasn't
played again since. So it's somewhat remarkable. They're four and
two and their defense, except for the Tampa Bay game,
(11:51):
has controlled games without who I think their best player,
Devin Witherspoon is, and I would expect they're going to
go back to what they started the season with, which
is Witherspoon inside and Job and Woollen outside when they
go Nickel but Nick even worrying now being full go
too and playing really where I thought he played an
(12:12):
excellent game in Jacksonville, especially tackling, give them options and
extra defensive backs, and it'll be interesting to see how
much they go traditional nickel and how much they'll go
big nickel with Witherspoon against Houston.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Gee.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
I mean, I don't think that anybody over there would
be content or super happy with where they're at as
far as their run game goes at this point. And
yet it's semi effective, just not really kind of clicking
on all cylinders. And so even without that, the play
action passing is working well. So what is next? Do
you think to get that run game going a little bit?
(12:47):
Or are they happy with where it's at because it's
being honored by the defense and hence the reason why
the play action passworks.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Yeah, there's a bunch of anaalgic numbers that say it's
a chicken or the egg type of argument about play
action pass Do you need a run game or do
you not a lot of new age, new fangled numbers
say that you don't the old school thinking, and McDonald
and Kubiak subscribe to the old school thinking, saying gap
for a defense to honor it, you have to run
(13:14):
the ball so that they don't just come into the
quarterback and the defensive lineman, I actually have to think
about Reid run before pass and slow them down. But
they're going to keep running. They aren't happy with it.
They seem to be moving the ball and succeeding on
offense despite their running game, which is not supposed to
see the opposite of that. So it will be continue
(13:36):
to be a slog until they get better blocking. And
it's that simple. When there are multiple players in the hole,
or even worse, multiple defenders in the backfield, you're not
going to get yards. And again in Jacksonville, they were
multiple defenders multiple times, many times in the backfield on
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running plays, and until the offensive line moves guys out
of holes and off the line, they're going to continue
to struggle running the ball. It's not like the guys
are running into players on their own. They're going to
where the play's designed to go. It's not being blocked.
And that's the issue, plain and simple. You can call
it targeting. They used that term all the time, meaning
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blocking them in the right part of the right body
and out of the right side of the hole. They
just need to be stronger, better, tougher, and nastier in
pushing guys off the wall. They did it early in
the season. They did it in Pittsburgh. But we saw
last night, or I didn't see it. I was in
the ballpark, but the nation and Football Nations saw the
Steelers got pushed around by the Bengals. The Steelers have
(14:42):
big problems on defense stuff in the run, and that's
the only game that they've had sustained success running it.
Even that game wasn't until the second half that in
some games the number is like one hundred and twenty
two yards rushing against Tampa. But you really didn't feel
like they controlled the game at all running because they
were given up thirty eight points on the other side
of the all. So, as you can tell, but as
(15:02):
we're talking here, this is a flawed team that is
not whole. Hasn't played a complete game. They haven't run
the ball while their defense is played well. The New
Orleans game when they want with thirty five to three
in the second quarter might be the only game you
could point to with that. But New Orleans is terrible.
So it's a four and two team with a lot,
(15:23):
I mean a lot to work. I went just from
a coaching perspective, really great that you can have the
attention of your players and just flip on the Tapa
Bay tape on defense say look at this, you guys
couldn't tackle it all and throwing them almost every game
tape of the run game. And so you guys aren't balking.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
To anybody in our last minute and we really do
have about a minute here to do this. I saw
a list Gray Zabel top ten rookie of the year?
Are they that pleased with him? Has he been everything
that they'd hoped he would be?
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Yes, they have?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
And what's funny about the top Timwerky the talk now
there are Pro Football Focus gets a lot of attention
for offensive line ratings because you can't quantify offensive line
play otherwise it's about the only one out there, and
he rates really highly in that metric and Pro Football
Focuses rankings zero percent pressures in a lot of games.
(16:15):
So never before as a guard, any rookie of the
year type talking because of their noe. STA's the measure.
But now they are, and that's what people are goming onto.
But yes, you talk to the teammates. Charles Cross loves them,
was playing next to him. I've talked about that the
left tackle with the left guard and the coaches love him.
They how they talk about how he's not a rookie,
(16:38):
that he's poised. He talks trash to veterans. Yeah he's
No one's come out and told me this. He's more
than they thought they'd get. And that's saying something when
they had the highest drafted intier guard since Steve Hutchinson
in twenty twenty. Gray is Abel has been all that
and a bag of chips.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
All right, Greg, Well things are busy, stay busy out.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Yeah, I don't even know what country I'm going to
be in the next few days, and that is it
might be m in Toronto on the Sunday night.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
And oh yeah, that's quite the turnaround. All right, Well,
wherever you are, we'll talk to you on Monday, all right,
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Miller and how big of a day it is for
Clint Eastwood. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM, Chuck Pow,
(18:12):
Buggy Jacobs, and Ashley Ryan with you Factor Fiction coming
up at seven thirty five. Coming up today at three o'clock,
Bryce Miller will take the ball for the Seattle Mariners.
It is amazing what postseason can do. Man. The Blue
Jays were sure they were cooked their fans anyway, not
the players, the fans when they were leaving Toronto. And
(18:33):
now two games later, it feels like the same old
people who were sure we were done after game one
against Detroit, and then even sure we were done after
game number four again in Detroit. They seem to be
feeling that we're cooked again because we lost two straight games.
(18:56):
And I think the same people, and I don't know
if they are the same people that are the ones
that I was just talking about, but the same people
that kind of ripped on Bryce Miller all season long.
It kind of feels like they're thank god Bryce Miller's pitching,
there's our one chance.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I mean what it does encapsulate is just a weird team.
What a weird season. It's been fun, it's been for
the most part, satisfying. But man, this is.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
A weird team and they play weird baseball. Yeah, they're
just not very consistent. And yet the Spurts. I mean,
if anything, if if you want to be the fan,
and you get the fan however you want, if you
want to be the one that rides the roller coaster,
well boy, this is a wonderful roller coaster.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Well, I mean they get they get you, by the way. Yeah,
not all fun. It's not fun for everybody. Some people
throw up on them.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Well maybe right, a less of a roller coaster because
I'm going through the same up as ups and downs.
I just don't get quite as high, are quite as
low because you just don't know you you don't know
what you're going to get. I wouldn't say that I
would rather have them a higher floor and a lower ceiling,
like just a more consistent team. But I would like
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them to be more consistently on what they're capable of. Right,
you show me something, it was ed Chef used to. Basically,
the reason he got on you so much is once
you showed him what you're capable of, he wouldn't accept
anything less, would not accept any not a tiny bit
less most certainly not a big chunk less. And what
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we watched last couple of nights is a giant chunk
less than what they're capable of. The approach, the intensity,
the kind of energy, all of it has been less
than what they're capable of. And yet it's to some
degree it's kind of what makes them so high flying
when they're rocking and rolling.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Now more chunk, not less chunk. Well, I mean, Bucky
loves the word approach. There's no doubt about it. We
talk about a lot on More Show. Yeah, I agree
with you. I believe you when you say, and I
think last night, last two nights, I mean, we got him.
We may have to point above the players because I
don't know. The Toronto Blue Jays came out with a
(21:12):
great game plan against George Kirby, and that as much
as anything led to them smoking him in the third inning,
and I just thought we came out every single batter
not named Josh Naylor came out with a terrible approach
last night against Max Scherzer. Maybe not to start the game,
but once we fell behind, they just they just fed
(21:33):
into the junk he wanted to throw us, and they
just bought it hook line and sinker. So I don't
know where it came from, but two stinkers. Maybe you
turn it completely around, and maybe easygoing Bryce Miller is
just the guy to give the ball to tonight at
three o'clock. All right, let's play some Factor fiction. Where's
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Speaker 2 (22:27):
All right, Ashley speak today and our Factor fiction around
to close out the week. Where are we going today?
Actually we are going to college football. And I don't
normally do this.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
I don't normally go with an opposite pick of somebody
on another show, but I saw this spread and I
was like, oh, doing that for sure, and then I
saw someone pick the opposite and I thought, well, okay,
we're doing it. So Ole Miss is a seven and
a half point underdog at Georgia this weekend, and I
don't think it's going to be that big of a spread.
I don't know that they could win at Georgia, but
(22:56):
it looks like all of George's wins against at least
ranked teams have been close. So give me Old Miss
plus the seven and a half at Georgia.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, I think that it's seven and a half because
of the Kugs. Yeah, I think so too last week,
but that was classic trap game. I wish the Cougs.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Would have gotten That would be great.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
It would have been great. Lane Kiffin would not have
been able to live with himself and that two would
have been great. I would have laughed. But I think that, Yeah,
the larger spread. If not for that game last week,
it probably would be around three.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
Yeah, that's what it seemed like, and that's what I
think it will be like a field goal game.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
All right, So Ashley's gonna take the Ole Miss Rebels
getting seven and a half on the road against the
Georgia Bulldogs, which means the Bulldogs have to win by
eight points or more in order for Ashley to have failed.
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Speaker 3 (25:41):
We'll do it.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Well, good Friday
morning to you, Chuck Powell, former Mariner, Bucky Jacobson. Ashley
in with you. Of course, we've been providing not just
(26:02):
the talking back in the morning radio program, but Bucky
and I've been giving you the postgame show throughout the
course of the playoffs as well. When at home, Jimmy's
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we spend last night. I mean, every single game, especially
after a loss, you spend a little bit of time
on managerial decisions, There's no doubt about that. I don't
know if we've spent that much time over on it
the last couple of days. Not as much as what
I think a lot of people would have liked for
us to. I just think that Game one, I mean,
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that's just on George Kirby and Game number two was
just a complete total and Dan Wilson can be included
in this smelly, lousy effort.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Last night.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I thought that was one of the worst games they've
played all season long, and they picked a terrible time
to do it. I'm not so sure. I am hung up, though, Bucky.
I don't know about you about like some of the
Dan Wilson decisions. None of these things are easy. I mean,
you're trying to figure out when to pull a starting
pitcher that you normally have trust and faith in, and
then who's the right matchup to pull out of the
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bullpen in that given situation, and are they on their
game that particular day. I don't know if I'm sitting
here pulling my hair out over the Dan Wilson decisions.
I mean, there's there are arguments against. There was an
argument for taking out George Kirby earlier than he did
in Game number three, certainly, but i'd I don't think
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that's what cost them the game. And then there were
arguments for keeping Luis Castillo in yesterday and letting him
work through it. Maybe he's earned it, but I would
have done the same thing. It felt like an important
moment in the game, and I felt like Gabe Spire
had a better chance of getting us out of that
basis loaded situation and not taking two to one and
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turning it into five to one or six to one.
It felt to me like Gabe Spire was the right guy.
And then he comes in and walks the first guy
he faces. Shame on Gabe in that situation for me, anyway,
not shame on Dan.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Yeah, I'm with that too. I mean, I you know
how I am.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
I don't have a huge opinion about a lot of things.
If I don't feel like I have all the information. Well,
this is one where you can get a lot of
the information. But there's no way that we as fans
are gonna have all of the information, right, I mean
all of the information.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Who's feeling what? How are they feeling?
Speaker 5 (28:56):
I mean we can say, okay, overview, your best bullpen
arms were all rested, ready to rock and roll for
yesterday's game. In today's game, they were going to have
a quick hook. Yeah, it started to go south there.
That was the game play.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yeah, and we're not going to let this game get
away from us like the previous game.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
And then it did get away. Yeah and Gabe.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Yeah, And Gabe came in there and actually went after
him the way that he has that has led to
him being successful majority of the season. And then he
throws back to back balls to walk that run in,
both of which are kind of in that buffer zone.
It wasn't like he missed poorly. Now you need to
at a big league level, especially in the playoffs, when
there's so much hanging in the balance. If there's nowhere
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to put a guy, then you got to challenge him.
But I can understand how he might be a bit
shell shocked, thinking, I really want to hit the outside
corner here because I don't want to give up the
home run like I've done a couple different times in
this postseason, and walk off feeling absolutely dejected, and ultimately
he'd missed walks in a run and then still stayed
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kind of, you know, at least even keel enough in
his head that he got the next couple guys out
and limited the damage. To me, it's you're coming in
that situation you're hoping to get out of there one out,
bases loaded. If you get out of there with just
giving up one run, you kind of have done your job. Now,
the way in which he gave up one run is
the least competitive way in which you can do it.
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They didn't have to move the bat and he just
basically gives him a run, and so it feels worse,
and yet he kind of did do his job.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
So to me that I had a.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Bigger problem with him keeping him in to face Springer,
even though the splits on Springer suggests he's better against rieties.
I just think Matt Brash is a better picture. And
I don't think Matt Brash is a normal right hander.
I mean, good luck trying to hit that sweeper, and
he's been very efficient here in his last couple of starts.
So I thought that was the bigger mistake, was leaving
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him into face Springer, and that allowed the score to
go to fourd to one at that point.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
That to me is where if I do have a
criticism of Dan Wilson from time to time throughout the
course of the season, is I think they.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Do majority analytics.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
I think they do majority of what the numbers say
and less of what what do you just feel like,
I mean, who do you just feel is a better
pitcher to get out of get a really tough hitter
out in an important part of the game, when you
need to keep this thing at three to one, right,
you want to keep it three to one. Obviously four
to one's not a deal breaker, but five to one
starts to feel deal break ish, and so to me
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it was the gut feel. I would have to think
that he's sitting there thinking, who do I feel better about?
Pitcher Wise Brash? Of course I feel better about Brash
than Spire at this point in time.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Inspire's fifth pitcher, second inning. He's been up yeah versus
fresh Matt Brash out of the bolt and been mowing
people down lately.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
I think that it probably is one where he's sitting
there in his head, going this way and going that way,
and going this way, and then just takes the analytics
say that he's better again than he is against lefties,
even though his guts probably telling him not that righty.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
And don't get me wrong, I mean, I'm sitting there
playing armchair manager with everybody else, and I haven't approved
of every I don't like everything that he has done
to this point, I don't even understand why Carlos Vargas
was in the game last night. I think you and
I both had that reaction. Why Vargas right now, so
we can go all the way back to the beginning
of the entire playoff. I didn't like the way that
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he set the rotation to start with. So, I mean,
there are things to certainly analyze and to critique, and
everybody's entitled to their opinion and to play armchair manager.
It's one of the fun things about being a baseball
fan and in our situation of baseball analysts. But I
just I don't think we've lost the last two games
because of Dan wilson decisions. If anything, we lost last
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night's game if you want to place any blame on
Dan Wilson organizationally, I just thought we had a way
worse game plan for attacking Max Schurzer than they've had
attack our pitchers the last two days.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
I mean, yeah, everybody gets to do what they want
to do and play armchair manager as much as they want.
It's just that when it gets to the point of that,
you would make a different decision and then it would
for sure work out like that. When it comes to
the Vargas one, we both had the thought of, well,
what is Bizarro up for if Vargas is coming in now?
But really, if you think about it, you look just
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a layer deeper. It's because he was wanting to have
Bizardo go against the top of the lineup.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
He was wanting him to.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
Do the guy trying to get vlad Guerrero out instead
of maybe having to have him go out there for
two different innings. But I mean, I think when you
talk about the game plan side of things, I don't
think it's that they didn't have a game plan probably
set up for him because you heard Josh Naylor talk
earlier about what he was doing as if he had
a game did, as if he did what they thought
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they were going to do. To me, I put way
more blame on the players. That's just the way that
it is. As a former player, I never one time
struck out and walk back to the manager or the
hitting coach go, what'd you tell.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Me that I should have been hitting sixth?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
And you know it, you just totally screwed me over.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
I mean, the swing decisions and then the lack of
consistency of barrel and balls up when you do get
a mistake?
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Is what is cost?
Speaker 5 (34:14):
What allowed max schers are to go out there and
go five and two thirds Jennings it was he would
throw a pitch for you to hit and then hope
that you wouldn't crush it. Well, you would hit the gap,
you wouldn't start a rally, and we didn't, and then
he gots to then nibble and do what a veteran
pitcher knows how to do. And so to me, I
don't know for sure if it's that anybody in that
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clubhouse is like, man, we had a really poor game time.
We were instructed to do things that obviously didn't work out.
I think it's just that the players didn't go out
and execute. That's the last two games they haven't executed.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Yeah, I agree. I put it on the players as well.
And that and last night particularly, I think game number
three was George got rocked and that's why we lost
last night. That was just lousy. That was just a
bad game by really the entire roster. Josh Naylor hit well,
JP defended well, and Matt Brash did a nice job
in his role coming out of the bullpen. And that
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is about it. That's about the end of my compliments
that I can fish for here. After that lousy performance
last night, we'll talk more about it. On the other side,
We've got the o Cho, your eight top stories of
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
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turn aside rebound Stevenson stars Chandler. Stevenson left circle on
the power play gives the Crack in the lead back.
It's three to two and there goes old Mark off
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Cousins scores.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Ottawa ties the game three three five.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
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Speaker 2 (00:56):
We're going to a shootout.
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it over left side of the circle.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Now cuts back to the slot.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Walks In shoots scores. Peer bits you on the call
last night as the Crack and do get a point,
but for the second game in a row, they lose
beyond regulation play, this time to the Ottawa Senators. In
a shootout final score four to three. They have earned
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a point in all four of their games so far
this young season, and they will also be taking on
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The Mariners do lose to the Toronto Blue Jays yesterday
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by a final score of eight to two. Team has
been outscored twenty one to six since returning home with
a two to zero lead in the American League Championship
Series and now suddenly the series is even at two
games apiece, so it's a best of three and that
starts tonight at home or actually this afternoon three o'clock start.
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Bryce Miller gets the call for the Mariners. He'll be
going up against Kevin Gosman. He is Kevin Gosman their
number one starter, but Bryce Miller has already bested him
once in this series. We'll look to do that again today,
starting at three o'clock. Headlines are brought to you by
Frostbrewed Corps, Light Shoes Chill. Los Angeles Dodgers are having
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an easy time with the team that finished with the
best record in baseball, the Milwaukee Brewers. The Dodgers won
yesterday three to one, so they are up three in
the series. Looks like they are certainly going to be
punching their ticket to the World Series soon. Krack and
I mentioned lost in a shootout. Huskies will be at
Michigan tomorrow nine am kickoff. Hanks will be on the
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air at six a m Seahawks won't play until Monday
night football against the Texans. Cincinnati started the new week
of the National Football League season with a surprising thirty
three p thirty one win over Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers'
first matchup in NFL history featuring two starting quarterbacks both
over the age of forty. From what I understand of course,
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a huge schedule on Sunday and then a double header
on Monday, which I'm not sure I really like. Let's
ask Greg Bell about it. Saw Greg and the food
line last night. Didn't see him much beyond that, So yeah,
not exactly the ideal situation last night. There was it there, Gregor.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
No. It reminded me how suddenly baseball change. It's unlike
you got to wait seven days the postseason for baseball
changes so quickly. And that's what the Toronto guys were
talking about. And now it's the series is completely on
its head, as you said, best of three, and that's
what the Mariner show connect to. It's what Kyle Rally
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said in the clubhouse after the game, and Pryce Miller
has if he can duplicate what he did in Toronto
on Sunday, then there'll be one win away again. But yeah,
it's Toronto has gone from doing nothing to everything offensively.
That's pitching for the Mariners just has not been able
to make any pitches they want to make.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
It is strange, though, Bucky, like, it doesn't seem like
there's momentum in this sport, even though teams do put
together ten game eighteen game winning streaks or you know,
fifteen game losing streaks, And every time I bring it
up to a guy that played at the major league level,
they're always no, no, no, it's there. It's just different.
I don't really know how to explain it, because, believe me,
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Toronto and their fans were thinking their goose was cooked
when they left Toronto to come here. They thought they
that the series was over. So it's not like something
unique to just Marinder fans when they watch back to
back subpar performances. Believe me, Toronto and the national people
thought the series we had Harold Reynolds on I don't
see a path for the Blue Jays to come back,
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and here we are to tom nothing.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Yeah, yeah, I mean to me, it feels like it's
because there's so many opportunities, like to what Greg's kind
of saying, like in football, you gotta wait six days
and you got to wait a week to play. So
even if you're you won three four games in a row,
it's like we do we have momentum. We have played
for a week, whereas in baseball it's like you can
you can snap that momentum and then next thing you know,
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you have it and the next day you have it again.
And yet it can turn.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
On a dime.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
It's it can turn on a dime.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
It's basically the momentum builds every single game from one
pitch to the next.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
That's the beauty.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
It's true. Every game is its own edits in the
playoffs exactly when we least SkyDome Monday Night whatever they
call it now, Rogers Center, I think it rebuilding in
Canada's colled to Rodgers Center. They were the staffers are saying, yeah,
we're not coming back. Yeah, we're closing it up. I'll
see you next spring. They were just they were gonna
pack the park up and be done. They didn't pick
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their coming back either.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, they turned on a dime once they can do
it again. Greg Bell with us our Seahawks insider, but
he has been covering the Mariners for the News Tribune
throughout the playoffs. Here, all right, so we don't play
until Monday nights. I don't know how you feel about this,
but it's not like a selfish Seahawk thing. It's not
like we I have to have the Seahawks have the
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stage to themselves. But shouldn't Monday night be precious shouldn't
there only be one game on Monday night football for
goodness sake.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Yeah, and there shouldn't be Thursday games, so there shouldn't
be Friday games.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Scratch that itch again.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Yes, there shouldn't be a ten o'clock eastern, seven o'clock
Pacific game. I think this will be the latest Seahawks
home game ever because they've never had this doubleheader backside
doubleheader at a Seahawks home game before. And so to
land after ten o'clock, and yeah, I'll get out of
the Stateium at one o'clock and may have just flown
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in from Toronto, may not, may still be in Toronto
and someone else might be covering the Seahawks game for
the news tribute. I don't know yet. But as far
as the players, they're on West Coast time, they live here,
it doesn't matter. It may matter a bit to Houston bodyclockwise.
They're playing at nine o'clock Houston time. First kickoff is
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at nine o'clock. But once they play, they they're professionals,
it won't matter. But for fans, yeah, it's reminds me
of the Huskies and all the eight o'clock starts. And
at least there's no sale gaming to ruin. I guess
for seven o'clock Seahawks start well.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
See, I mean you sitting a fourn too, and kind
of feeling probably, I would imagine, fairly good about coming
off of that win against Jacksonville. I mean, is it
are we far enough into this to just basically say, yep,
Sam Donald's that's our franchise quarterback moving forward.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I mean for the foreseeable future anyways, foreseeable future.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Yes, And there's no reason to think that they won't
out of the second third year of his contracts. We
know he could, he could, They see us could get
out of it relatively cheaply in the next year and
next year after that. You know, it's a three year deal.
But so far he's been one of the best quarterbacks
in the league. And again what's surprising is he's doing
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it not by design. They were going to run the ball.
They're still going to run the ball, but they were
gonna run the ball more effectively. That was the whole
idea of Clint Kubiak coming here, and they signed Sam
Donald to be a complimentary quarterback off the run game
play action, pass, bootlegs, run, run, run, throw, and they
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just run a little bit, not much then throw throw,
So it has been not by design, which has perhaps
been even more impressive that he has carried them and
that wasn't what they thought when they signed him. They
are vowing to do what they've been doing so far,
which is to continue to run. It's becoming interesting about
the Zach Charbona Kenneth Walker snapcount splits and a lot
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of fans are saying, why is Sharbonee getting the ball
when he is the lowest yards for carrying the league.
I think it's two point one or two point six
or something. And the answer McDonald won't come right and
say it, but the answer is they're trying to get
Walker through all seventeen games. They've talked about the foot
issue he has and it's a long term thing that
they are really managing through games. And you'll see Charboney
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get entire series, usually in the second quarter, plus he
gets all the two minutes, plus he gets the third
down reps. And so when you combine all of those
and if they're in two minute quite a bit or
succeeding in two minutes with first downs, those snapstars to
add up, and all of a sudden he's got more
than Walker does, even though Walker has more productivity. So
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when you're screaming, why is twenty six on the field,
it's because they're trying to get nine through the whole season.
And it appears that they think if they gave him
the bell cow load that he would break down and
won't be able to play in the next game. And that,
in the simplest terms, is why the splits are what
they are despite the production.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Greg Mel is with US Seahawks. Insight can follow him
at g mel Seattle, and right now he's doing double
duty covering the Mariners and the Seahawks who won't play
until Monday night against the Houston Texans. Is that extra
day at all valuable and trying to get Witherspoon and
Love on the field. How whole will the secondary be
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by Monday night?
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Yeah? I think it does matter. And in fact, Witherspoon
and Love were practicing yesterday. They were both listed as
limited participants. I saw Love at the beginning of practice
moving around pretty well, and he hadn't practiced in a
couple of weeks. Riek Wollen was full apparently through the
concussion protocol, and they'll see how he respond to going
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a full participant in practice since first time since the
concussion two games ago, but all three of them practicing
four days before the game suggests that they're going to
all three play and their secondary will be whole, and
that will help because they haven't had a whole secondary
since the first half of the first game, because Witherspoon
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got hurt in the second half colliding with Josh Job
when Joeb intercepted brock Purty way back on September seventh,
and since then, Witherspoon's only played two of six games.
The first game they got hurt, and he came back
through the Arizona game September twenty fifth, and then hasn't
played again since. So it's somewhat remarkable. They're four and
two and their defense, except for the Tampa Bay game,
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has controlled games without who I think their best player,
Devin Witherspoon is, and I would expect they're going to
go back to what they started the season with, which
is Witherspoon inside and Job and Woollen outside when they
go Nickel but Nick even worrying now being full go
too and playing really where I thought he played an
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excellent game in Jacksonville, especially tackling, give them options and
extra defensive backs, and it'll be interesting to see how
much they go traditional nickel and how much they'll go
big nickel with Witherspoon against Houston.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Gee.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
I mean, I don't think that anybody over there would
be content or super happy with where they're at as
far as their run game goes at this point. And
yet it's semi effective, just not really kind of clicking
on all cylinders. And so even without that, the play
action passing is working well. So what is next? Do
you think to get that run game going a little bit?
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Or are they happy with where it's at because it's
being honored by the defense and hence the reason why
the play action passworks.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Yeah, there's a bunch of anaalgic numbers that say it's
a chicken or the egg type of argument about play
action pass Do you need a run game or do
you not a lot of new age, new fangled numbers
say that you don't the old school thinking, and McDonald
and Kubiak subscribe to the old school thinking, saying gap
for a defense to honor it, you have to run
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the ball so that they don't just come into the
quarterback and the defensive lineman, I actually have to think
about Reid run before pass and slow them down. But
they're going to keep running. They aren't happy with it.
They seem to be moving the ball and succeeding on
offense despite their running game, which is not supposed to
see the opposite of that. So it will be continue
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to be a slog until they get better blocking. And
it's that simple. When there are multiple players in the hole,
or even worse, multiple defenders in the backfield, you're not
going to get yards. And again in Jacksonville, they were
multiple defenders multiple times, many times in the backfield on
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running plays, and until the offensive line moves guys out
of holes and off the line, they're going to continue
to struggle running the ball. It's not like the guys
are running into players on their own. They're going to
where the play's designed to go. It's not being blocked.
And that's the issue, plain and simple. You can call
it targeting. They used that term all the time, meaning
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blocking them in the right part of the right body
and out of the right side of the hole. They
just need to be stronger, better, tougher, and nastier in
pushing guys off the wall. They did it early in
the season. They did it in Pittsburgh. But we saw
last night, or I didn't see it. I was in
the ballpark, but the nation and Football Nations saw the
Steelers got pushed around by the Bengals. The Steelers have
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big problems on defense stuff in the run, and that's
the only game that they've had sustained success running it.
Even that game wasn't until the second half that in
some games the number is like one hundred and twenty
two yards rushing against Tampa. But you really didn't feel
like they controlled the game at all running because they
were given up thirty eight points on the other side
of the all. So, as you can tell, but as
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we're talking here, this is a flawed team that is
not whole. Hasn't played a complete game. They haven't run
the ball while their defense is played well. The New
Orleans game when they want with thirty five to three
in the second quarter might be the only game you
could point to with that. But New Orleans is terrible.
So it's a four and two team with a lot,
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I mean a lot to work. I went just from
a coaching perspective, really great that you can have the
attention of your players and just flip on the Tapa
Bay tape on defense say look at this, you guys
couldn't tackle it all and throwing them almost every game
tape of the run game. And so you guys aren't balking.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
To anybody in our last minute and we really do
have about a minute here to do this. I saw
a list Gray Zabel top ten rookie of the year?
Are they that pleased with him? Has he been everything
that they'd hoped he would be?
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Yes, they have?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
And what's funny about the top Timwerky the talk now
there are Pro Football Focus gets a lot of attention
for offensive line ratings because you can't quantify offensive line
play otherwise it's about the only one out there, and
he rates really highly in that metric and Pro Football
Focuses rankings zero percent pressures in a lot of games.
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So never before as a guard, any rookie of the
year type talking because of their noe. STA's the measure.
But now they are, and that's what people are goming onto.
But yes, you talk to the teammates. Charles Cross loves them,
was playing next to him. I've talked about that the
left tackle with the left guard and the coaches love him.
They how they talk about how he's not a rookie,
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that he's poised. He talks trash to veterans. Yeah he's
No one's come out and told me this. He's more
than they thought they'd get. And that's saying something when
they had the highest drafted intier guard since Steve Hutchinson
in twenty twenty. Gray is Abel has been all that
and a bag of chips.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
All right, Greg, Well things are busy, stay busy out.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Yeah, I don't even know what country I'm going to
be in the next few days, and that is it
might be m in Toronto on the Sunday night.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
And oh yeah, that's quite the turnaround. All right, Well,
wherever you are, we'll talk to you on Monday, all right,
every weekend. Greg Bell our Seahawks inside of joining us
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Clint Eastwood. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM, Chuck Pow,
(18:12):
Buggy Jacobs, and Ashley Ryan with you Factor Fiction coming
up at seven thirty five. Coming up today at three o'clock,
Bryce Miller will take the ball for the Seattle Mariners.
It is amazing what postseason can do. Man. The Blue
Jays were sure they were cooked their fans anyway, not
the players, the fans when they were leaving Toronto. And
(18:33):
now two games later, it feels like the same old
people who were sure we were done after game one
against Detroit, and then even sure we were done after
game number four again in Detroit. They seem to be
feeling that we're cooked again because we lost two straight games.
(18:56):
And I think the same people, and I don't know
if they are the same people that are the ones
that I was just talking about, but the same people
that kind of ripped on Bryce Miller all season long.
It kind of feels like they're thank god Bryce Miller's pitching,
there's our one chance.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I mean what it does encapsulate is just a weird team.
What a weird season. It's been fun, it's been for
the most part, satisfying. But man, this is.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
A weird team and they play weird baseball. Yeah, they're
just not very consistent. And yet the Spurts. I mean,
if anything, if if you want to be the fan,
and you get the fan however you want, if you
want to be the one that rides the roller coaster,
well boy, this is a wonderful roller coaster.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Well, I mean they get they get you, by the way. Yeah,
not all fun. It's not fun for everybody. Some people
throw up on them.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Well maybe right, a less of a roller coaster because
I'm going through the same up as ups and downs.
I just don't get quite as high, are quite as
low because you just don't know you you don't know
what you're going to get. I wouldn't say that I
would rather have them a higher floor and a lower ceiling,
like just a more consistent team. But I would like
(20:12):
them to be more consistently on what they're capable of. Right,
you show me something, it was ed Chef used to. Basically,
the reason he got on you so much is once
you showed him what you're capable of, he wouldn't accept
anything less, would not accept any not a tiny bit
less most certainly not a big chunk less. And what
(20:33):
we watched last couple of nights is a giant chunk
less than what they're capable of. The approach, the intensity,
the kind of energy, all of it has been less
than what they're capable of. And yet it's to some
degree it's kind of what makes them so high flying
when they're rocking and rolling.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Now more chunk, not less chunk. Well, I mean, Bucky
loves the word approach. There's no doubt about it. We
talk about a lot on More Show. Yeah, I agree
with you. I believe you when you say, and I
think last night, last two nights, I mean, we got him.
We may have to point above the players because I
don't know. The Toronto Blue Jays came out with a
(21:12):
great game plan against George Kirby, and that as much
as anything led to them smoking him in the third inning,
and I just thought we came out every single batter
not named Josh Naylor came out with a terrible approach
last night against Max Scherzer. Maybe not to start the game,
but once we fell behind, they just they just fed
(21:33):
into the junk he wanted to throw us, and they
just bought it hook line and sinker. So I don't
know where it came from, but two stinkers. Maybe you
turn it completely around, and maybe easygoing Bryce Miller is
just the guy to give the ball to tonight at
three o'clock. All right, let's play some Factor fiction. Where's
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Speaker 2 (22:27):
All right, Ashley speak today and our Factor fiction around
to close out the week. Where are we going today?
Actually we are going to college football. And I don't
normally do this.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
I don't normally go with an opposite pick of somebody
on another show, but I saw this spread and I
was like, oh, doing that for sure, and then I
saw someone pick the opposite and I thought, well, okay,
we're doing it. So Ole Miss is a seven and
a half point underdog at Georgia this weekend, and I
don't think it's going to be that big of a spread.
I don't know that they could win at Georgia, but
(22:56):
it looks like all of George's wins against at least
ranked teams have been close. So give me Old Miss
plus the seven and a half at Georgia.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, I think that it's seven and a half because
of the Kugs. Yeah, I think so too last week,
but that was classic trap game. I wish the Cougs.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Would have gotten That would be great.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
It would have been great. Lane Kiffin would not have
been able to live with himself and that two would
have been great. I would have laughed. But I think that, Yeah,
the larger spread. If not for that game last week,
it probably would be around three.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
Yeah, that's what it seemed like, and that's what I
think it will be like a field goal game.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
All right, So Ashley's gonna take the Ole Miss Rebels
getting seven and a half on the road against the
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We I'm talking about Nan Wilson's role last night in
the loss to the Blue Jays, so.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
We'll do it.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
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(26:02):
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(26:44):
we spend last night. I mean, every single game, especially
after a loss, you spend a little bit of time
on managerial decisions, There's no doubt about that. I don't
know if we've spent that much time over on it
the last couple of days. Not as much as what
I think a lot of people would have liked for
us to. I just think that Game one, I mean,
(27:05):
that's just on George Kirby and Game number two was
just a complete total and Dan Wilson can be included
in this smelly, lousy effort.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Last night.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I thought that was one of the worst games they've
played all season long, and they picked a terrible time
to do it. I'm not so sure. I am hung up, though, Bucky.
I don't know about you about like some of the
Dan Wilson decisions. None of these things are easy. I mean,
you're trying to figure out when to pull a starting
pitcher that you normally have trust and faith in, and
then who's the right matchup to pull out of the
(27:38):
bullpen in that given situation, and are they on their
game that particular day. I don't know if I'm sitting
here pulling my hair out over the Dan Wilson decisions.
I mean, there's there are arguments against. There was an
argument for taking out George Kirby earlier than he did
in Game number three, certainly, but i'd I don't think
(28:00):
that's what cost them the game. And then there were
arguments for keeping Luis Castillo in yesterday and letting him
work through it. Maybe he's earned it, but I would
have done the same thing. It felt like an important
moment in the game, and I felt like Gabe Spire
had a better chance of getting us out of that
basis loaded situation and not taking two to one and
(28:21):
turning it into five to one or six to one.
It felt to me like Gabe Spire was the right guy.
And then he comes in and walks the first guy
he faces. Shame on Gabe in that situation for me, anyway,
not shame on Dan.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Yeah, I'm with that too. I mean, I you know
how I am.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
I don't have a huge opinion about a lot of things.
If I don't feel like I have all the information. Well,
this is one where you can get a lot of
the information. But there's no way that we as fans
are gonna have all of the information, right, I mean
all of the information.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Who's feeling what? How are they feeling?
Speaker 5 (28:56):
I mean we can say, okay, overview, your best bullpen
arms were all rested, ready to rock and roll for
yesterday's game. In today's game, they were going to have
a quick hook. Yeah, it started to go south there.
That was the game play.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yeah, and we're not going to let this game get
away from us like the previous game.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
And then it did get away. Yeah and Gabe.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Yeah, And Gabe came in there and actually went after
him the way that he has that has led to
him being successful majority of the season. And then he
throws back to back balls to walk that run in,
both of which are kind of in that buffer zone.
It wasn't like he missed poorly. Now you need to
at a big league level, especially in the playoffs, when
there's so much hanging in the balance. If there's nowhere
(29:36):
to put a guy, then you got to challenge him.
But I can understand how he might be a bit
shell shocked, thinking, I really want to hit the outside
corner here because I don't want to give up the
home run like I've done a couple different times in
this postseason, and walk off feeling absolutely dejected, and ultimately
he'd missed walks in a run and then still stayed
(29:58):
kind of, you know, at least even keel enough in
his head that he got the next couple guys out
and limited the damage. To me, it's you're coming in
that situation you're hoping to get out of there one out,
bases loaded. If you get out of there with just
giving up one run, you kind of have done your job. Now,
the way in which he gave up one run is
the least competitive way in which you can do it.
(30:19):
They didn't have to move the bat and he just
basically gives him a run, and so it feels worse,
and yet he kind of did do his job.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
So to me that I had a.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Bigger problem with him keeping him in to face Springer,
even though the splits on Springer suggests he's better against rieties.
I just think Matt Brash is a better picture. And
I don't think Matt Brash is a normal right hander.
I mean, good luck trying to hit that sweeper, and
he's been very efficient here in his last couple of starts.
So I thought that was the bigger mistake, was leaving
(30:53):
him into face Springer, and that allowed the score to
go to fourd to one at that point.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
That to me is where if I do have a
criticism of Dan Wilson from time to time throughout the
course of the season, is I think they.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Do majority analytics.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
I think they do majority of what the numbers say
and less of what what do you just feel like,
I mean, who do you just feel is a better
pitcher to get out of get a really tough hitter
out in an important part of the game, when you
need to keep this thing at three to one, right,
you want to keep it three to one. Obviously four
to one's not a deal breaker, but five to one
starts to feel deal break ish, and so to me
(31:31):
it was the gut feel. I would have to think
that he's sitting there thinking, who do I feel better about?
Pitcher Wise Brash? Of course I feel better about Brash
than Spire at this point in time.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Inspire's fifth pitcher, second inning. He's been up yeah versus
fresh Matt Brash out of the bolt and been mowing
people down lately.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
I think that it probably is one where he's sitting
there in his head, going this way and going that way,
and going this way, and then just takes the analytics
say that he's better again than he is against lefties,
even though his guts probably telling him not that righty.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
And don't get me wrong, I mean, I'm sitting there
playing armchair manager with everybody else, and I haven't approved
of every I don't like everything that he has done
to this point, I don't even understand why Carlos Vargas
was in the game last night. I think you and
I both had that reaction. Why Vargas right now, so
we can go all the way back to the beginning
of the entire playoff. I didn't like the way that
(32:25):
he set the rotation to start with. So, I mean,
there are things to certainly analyze and to critique, and
everybody's entitled to their opinion and to play armchair manager.
It's one of the fun things about being a baseball
fan and in our situation of baseball analysts. But I
just I don't think we've lost the last two games
because of Dan wilson decisions. If anything, we lost last
(32:49):
night's game if you want to place any blame on
Dan Wilson organizationally, I just thought we had a way
worse game plan for attacking Max Schurzer than they've had
attack our pitchers the last two days.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
I mean, yeah, everybody gets to do what they want
to do and play armchair manager as much as they want.
It's just that when it gets to the point of that,
you would make a different decision and then it would
for sure work out like that. When it comes to
the Vargas one, we both had the thought of, well,
what is Bizarro up for if Vargas is coming in now?
But really, if you think about it, you look just
(33:24):
a layer deeper. It's because he was wanting to have
Bizardo go against the top of the lineup.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
He was wanting him to.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
Do the guy trying to get vlad Guerrero out instead
of maybe having to have him go out there for
two different innings. But I mean, I think when you
talk about the game plan side of things, I don't
think it's that they didn't have a game plan probably
set up for him because you heard Josh Naylor talk
earlier about what he was doing as if he had
a game did, as if he did what they thought
(33:50):
they were going to do. To me, I put way
more blame on the players. That's just the way that
it is. As a former player, I never one time
struck out and walk back to the manager or the
hitting coach go, what'd you tell.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Me that I should have been hitting sixth?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
And you know it, you just totally screwed me over.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
I mean, the swing decisions and then the lack of
consistency of barrel and balls up when you do get
a mistake?
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Is what is cost?
Speaker 5 (34:14):
What allowed max schers are to go out there and
go five and two thirds Jennings it was he would
throw a pitch for you to hit and then hope
that you wouldn't crush it. Well, you would hit the gap,
you wouldn't start a rally, and we didn't, and then
he gots to then nibble and do what a veteran
pitcher knows how to do. And so to me, I
don't know for sure if it's that anybody in that
(34:35):
clubhouse is like, man, we had a really poor game time.
We were instructed to do things that obviously didn't work out.
I think it's just that the players didn't go out
and execute. That's the last two games they haven't executed.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Yeah, I agree. I put it on the players as well.
And that and last night particularly, I think game number
three was George got rocked and that's why we lost
last night. That was just lousy. That was just a
bad game by really the entire roster. Josh Naylor hit well,
JP defended well, and Matt Brash did a nice job
in his role coming out of the bullpen. And that
(35:08):
is about it. That's about the end of my compliments
that I can fish for here. After that lousy performance
last night, we'll talk more about it. On the other side,
We've got the o Cho, your eight top stories of
the day to get you ready for a busy weekend
right here on Chuck and Buck Sports Radio ninety three
point three KJRFM.
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