October 17, 2025 • 32 mins
RYON HEALY joins the show (no surprises today) to give us his thoughts on last night’s loss. The good, the bad and the ugly. From poor pitching, to a lack of offense, to bad base running, we cover it all. When will they use Bryan Woo? How will they respond to the pressure today? :30- ABCs of the Mariners G is for Gambit H is for Hate I is for Irritation. :45- We wrap up the week with Booze News!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Office pancakes.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Yeah, office pancakes.
Speaker 3 (00:02):
That was the thing.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Yeah, it's Flapjack Day.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
You thought that I would wear maple syrup cologne. Yeah,
I thought Buttersworth by Ralph Lauren. That's what I thought
we were dealing with over there.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
No, I would think you yeah, because you probably like
make your own maple syrup.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Yeah, exactly, I have made before, but I wouldn't wear
it a cologne.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
You like smell them? Oh yeah, smell like sausage though.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Sausage.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Oh well, maybe it's after Dinner by Jimmy sounds delicious.
Joining us now on the radio program is former Mariner
Ryan Healey, who's joined us throughout the course of the
postseason and the last couple of days.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I introduced him the old judge.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
We brought his best friend on the show yesterday, Uh,
to do analysis with him. I'm sorry, I don't have
any surprises. I don't have your high school coach, your
college girlfriend, or your local grocer here to greet you today.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Probably for the best, to be honest with.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
You, I'm trying.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
I have somebody you might want to keep your head
on a swelve ive. But I've spoke to somebody about
sneaking in there and trying to depants you during the interview.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
So heads up, did you get my wife's phone number
or something? Maybe?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Maybe? Yeah? Is she the cult lock?
Speaker 7 (01:23):
I'm gona lock the office door real quick. I don't
feel safe anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Well, that was fun yesterday. We got a lot of
compliments on that. That was some good stuff with you
and Kevin Plar on our show yesterday. But now we
get to isolate on Ryan Heay evaluation. So talk to
the Mariner fan because obviously, I mean, I thought that
was an even worse feeling yesterday than Game one or
Game three. To me, George just didn't have it in
(01:49):
Game three last night. It just felt like the Mariners
didn't have it. That just felt like a really bad
performance to me at a really bad time. So what
would you say about last night's game? Aim from your seat?
Speaker 7 (02:03):
This is the not fun part of the job for me,
when I need to be critical of a team that
I love and I'm rooting for. But there were a
lot of things that gave me the ick. And as
the Mariners fans, you guys are accustomed to seeing the ick,
and you haven't seen it in a while, And unfortunately,
it showed up last night. But the nice thing is
this is a best of seven series, so we have
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opportunities still, but how to we respond and how to
respond quickly? But there's two things that I'm just really
struggling with that. There's two pass balls or wild pitches
we want to call them. Recently with runners on third
base and breaking balls in the dirt. Were Riley's kind
of in between backhanding and blocking the ball the more
traditional way, and Cal's of Platin Glove winver or goal
or Platinum Glove winner. I don't deserve to be critical
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of him, but that situation I can be critical of
because the game in that playoff setting and the fans,
they deserve better effort out of that. And there's the
Randy Rose Raine at bats are really starting to frustrate me.
You know, there was I think it was a third
bat against Max Schurz or watch two fastballs down the middle,
then chase the come on the left handed batters box guilty.
I've done the same thing, so I know what that
feels like and I know why that happens. This game
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is really really hard on the defense of an offensive side.
I'll never forget that. But there's also a complete different
look of hitter right now in the batter's box between
what the Blue Jays are executing from one through nine
and what the Mariners are not executing one through nine.
And it's really the bottom of the order right now.
It looked like last night, the six through nine for
the Blue Jays score five runs, and our bottom third
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of the order for the Mariners is batten right around
a buck fifteen. It's just not it's not good enough
when we're relying every single night on the horses in
the middle of the order to do everything for us.
We don't get to the World Series and win this
World Series without us one through nine contributing.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I'm with you.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
And yet there was you know, not coming through like
cam Zone hit a couple of balls hard on the
ground yesterday. That's all you're going up there to do, right,
get a pitch, te try to hit a hard see
what the heck happens. But yes, you got to get
more contribution. I mean, the top of the order didn't
do anything outside of Cal and Julio with those first
Indian walks. They went silent the rest of the time too.
(04:05):
So when you're watching Max Scherzer. He's not the Max
suser that you should just fill up the strike zone
and say, here you go, you can't hit any of it.
He yesterday was going right after him early, especially once
he got the lead. Here you go, I'm gonna give
you one fastball, trick you into thinking I am the
old Max Schuzer I think I am, and then I'm
gonna I'm gonna kind of do to you and nibble
on the outside corner, and eventually they would take the bait.
(04:28):
Was there something you think game plan wise where they
weren't brought in, you know, brought up to speed as
to what they thought he was going to do, because
if they didn't have a good game planner approach going
into it, or they just didn't make adjustments as they
they saw fit. And yet I'm not one hundred percent
sure which one it was.
Speaker 7 (04:45):
That's fair, and I think you can have an approach,
you can have a really quality game plan, but it
always comes down to the execution. This game is really hard,
not just for the players, with the coaching staff because
they were facing a Hall of Fame pitcher last time,
a Max Sureser.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
And you have to give credit where credits.
Speaker 7 (04:59):
Due he he was executing his pitches all the way
from the fastball to the slider, to the curveball to
the change up, and yes he gave the one homer
on the change up to Naylor, but from there I
felt like Naylor was the only batter in that order
that was seeing the ball deep enough for me, if
you go through that game plan of what Scherzer was doing,
he was really dominating the outer half with that slider
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and then able to throw the curveball off of that.
So if he got aggressive swings off of that slider
from the right handed batter and they looked like they
were on tit a little bit more, he was able
to slow their gauge down a little bit more with
that big curveball, and he was changing speeds I saw.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
I think he ranged from ninety six mall an.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
Hour at the fastball last night to his seventy six
with that curveball, so at twenty plus mine hour. You know,
difference in those pitches. It's really challenging for a hitter
to try and be on time for everything when it
comes to that. The most success that I've seen players have,
it's eliminating pitches and eliminating zones. When you see a
pitcher executing really well on to off the plate for
the outer half, as the right handed hitter, you almost
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have to eliminate that side of the plate. He's gonna
land sliders, loan away for strikes and give it to him.
Wait for the mistake, and then don't miss it when
you get there. But I didn't see many mistakes from
Shuzer did his credit last night. But I also saw
over aggressive swings to the Mariners, and it stood out
tremendously because I wrote my notes. These Blue Jays just
don't expand the zone. They are stubborn at batter's box.
When they get their pitch, they find barrels.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yeah, Ryan Heally is with us here on check them
back in the morning as we break down last night's
loss to the Toronto Blue Jays, eight to two is
the final score. I don't want to keep you on
this path of criticism if it makes you uncomfortable. But
base running and then also pitching and maybe pitching changed decisions.
(06:42):
Just to get your wigh in on how Leo Revos
in that situation can get picked off of first or
Josh Naylor can try to get the third base, down
three in that situation, and then what you thought of
just overall the pitching plan last night from the Mariners.
Speaker 7 (06:59):
They're just momenting killers when you're getting when you're creating
outs on the bass pass. And to the Mariner's credit,
they have been so aggressive on the bass pass this
entire postseason and it's worked in their favor tremendously. I'm
a little more critical of Reevos getting picked off in
that situation.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
For me, that just can't happen.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
It looked like he got a little stagnant, the feet
weren't moving, and when he did slide back, the dirt
bears a little wet, so you don't always get the
You don't hit the forward progress that you get if
you don't have momentum behind it. So he kind of
just stuck when he dove back. And for me, Naylor,
this one's a coin flip. For me, I could be
critical the situation and say, how do you not know
where the right fielder is and you're not reading that
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ball because it's kind of to your right as you're
making the move and now you're picking up a third
base coach, I didn't see what the third base coach's
decision was in that moment.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
So a lot going on.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
But I would never be the guy to tell Josh
Naylor to pull the reins back on the bass pass
because yes, he's the bottom five sprint speed in the
big leagues, but he also had thirty plus stolen bases,
and remember he stole third base against Trek s Googble
and the Alds. That put him in an RBI situation
with less than one out on plair base. It was tremendous.
I can't pull the reins back on him. Yes, the
(08:04):
situation in the moment in the game was critical. That
was frustrating when it comes to the pitching side, though,
I understand why Dan Wilson made the moves he did.
He was learning from the night before. Do you guys
remember in the game in the ds HOW Game I
fifth inning was just so decisive for almost every game.
It feels like a third ending is very decisive for
this series so far, at least what we've seen in
at the home games in Seattle. He was being aggressive
(08:25):
with getting to a bullpen that was fresh. I didn't
mind it, obviously, Spire walking the guy there was an ideal,
and then he got out of it. That was a
good minimization. That was a great adjustment from the night before.
It didn't end up working out. But realistically, man, if
we're not gonna get men on base and keep him
on base and move them around, what are we gonna
do How we're gonna score runs? But like you think
about him andiz him and it's in a two run
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Homer then next to Batty comes up one out runner
or no outs, run out of second base, let me
bunt him over. Like, I just don't see that same
effort of I know every run really counts in this game.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
Right now, I'm with you. Well, I guess moving forward
it still is to too. Even though you know, I
think some people thought, well, we got this series wrapped
up after you win to it their place. And then
there's people that are jumping off the ship now thinking
well we screwed, We're screwed. Now we're cursed. And yet
he is still it's win two out of three. Find
a way. We got Bryce Miller going up against their ace.
(09:16):
What's the game plan with their ace? He he pitched
well against us. We ended up get you know, hanging
him with a loss. But he didn't pitch poorly. He
kind of has that splitty he likes to throw it
down below the zone. Cow went down and dug one
out first game. What's the game plan that if you're
one of the hitting coaches, you're saying, Hey, we got
to do this against this guy.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Get that splitty up or what.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
Yeah, I think the elevation. I actually have a good
feeling about tonight, just because of how well they handled Scubable,
especially in that the game two of the DS, meaning
they were able to eliminate the bottom below part of
the strike zone with that really good change that the
Terrek has. If they can push Kevin Gossman up in
the zone beyond time per his heater and just respond
and react to those those hanging splits that I know
(09:58):
he's going to throw at some point, we're gonna be in.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Good shape here.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
This is a lot of pressure falling on Bryce Miller,
and I don't know if he's gonna view this pressure
as an opportunity, but he's been great this postseason, so
I have a lot of confidence with him.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Tonight.
Speaker 7 (10:11):
We don't win unless we can minimize, you know, this
Toronto offense. If we can keep some runners off of
the base pass if we can not give them the
free passes, if we can minimize the leadoff extra base hits,
because every time they hit a leadof double, you're just like,
you know, that's gonna be a run. They're gonna bunch
of over. We're gonna get them in because theyn'll strike out.
This is gonna be a dog fight from innings one
through nine. And for some reason, us attacking early and
(10:32):
scoring early in the game, it's not phasing the Blue Jays,
and then when they punch back, it's phasing us. So
how do we respond after we absorb a blow and
exchange them a little bit to the middle part of
the inning. Because I love to see high leverage bullpen
arms come in seven, eight, nine and have it be
a little more meaningful.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I'm wondering, we're all wondering how to use Brian Wu.
I mean, you don't have all the information at your fingertips,
but obviously they've they've sent him to the bullpen in
Game three and didn't you didn't get him up last
night he was warming up and they decided not to
use him. I mean, there's no ideal situation. I mean,
at some point you're just gonna have to throw him
(11:08):
into this baptism by fire kind of situation here in
the American League Championship Series.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
And so, how long do you go Bryce Miller today?
What's the what's the hook rate here for for for
Miller today? And then is this the day that you
think maybe Brian wu makes his first appearance.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
I hope so. I would love to see Wu.
Speaker 7 (11:31):
I think that would be a lift for this team
in the meat of the game here in that four
or five six inning window. I would love to see
Bryce get through the line up twice execute his pitch
as well like he's done. I also think there's been
a lot of predictions for what's starting pitching he's gonna
do in this series, and every time we predict something
complete opposite happens. They were talking about the broadcast last night.
This series, this this al just postseason in general has
(11:53):
just been wild. And I haven't experienced this as a
player up to this point. But I have zero control
over the outcome of this game, and I'm strictly observing
and hoping for the Mariners and wanting the Mariners to win.
But when you see the games unfold, you just don't
know what's gonna happen. So I'd love to see Bryce
Miller go for me. They need to get Brian Woo
a clean inning, like having him come in from the
bullpen for clean inning, and then if we can target
(12:14):
two inning's awesome. But they're being very close to their
chest to the information. I saw Dan Wilson's interview postgame,
asked that same exact question, and his answer was, we'll
do it.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
When the time is right. It's like, what is the
right time. Let's start guessing. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Yeah, yeah, you called him at earlier this week. Yeah,
Ryan heally called Brian Woo a saint.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Well, it's like Dorothy Mantooth, you know, Dorothy Mantooth is
a saint.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, well he needs to we need to see the saint.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Then at some point when it comes to just overall,
the pressure that starts to mount, right, I mean you
kind of feel like they had the pressure after we
go take two at their place. Now they've they've you know,
returned the favor to some degree. Is there pressure on
the Mariners or does this team think I mean, you
know a lot of these guys, do they just have
(13:03):
the a Let's just get back to approaching the game
that we're supposed to grind out better at bats and
then execute when the time comes, or is there are
they starting to feel a little bit of pressure.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
I think they felt pressure all season, especially in the
second half, Like the pressure has been present, and I
guess I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt
because they've responded to that pressure every single time, not
to perfection, but especially late in the year when they
went to Houston and it's what the Astros that was
pressure and they executed Game five in the DS when
they played fifteen innings. Every one of those innings was pressure.
They responded to this pressure. How they respond tonight it's
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gonna be really important. But you can see body language
from players right now that are frustrated with their results.
Like JP Crawford was one last night who flew out
on a fastball's a good pitch to hit, flew out
the center field and wanted to break his bat into
seventeen thousand pieces and kind of resisted and controlled himself
to just set it down. But you can just like
feel the frustration transform into disappointment in the moment, and
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then you have those destructive thoughts. Is just baseball players
because this game is filled with failure, and then it's
the going home and being able to sleep and come
back tomorrow, And how do we project some energy in
this clubhouse? They have the guys to do that, and
I think that the way they conduct themselves today, the
conversations that they have, the way to communicate with each other.
How are we going to win this date, this game today,
or how are we gonna win this first inning? You
(14:21):
can't go win this game in the first pitch, So
how do we go dominate this first pitch so that
we can do it one pitch at a time and
then ultimately win this game?
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Well, I know the famous Ted Lasso line about be
a goldfish, and I don't really know soccer all that well,
so I don't know how often a soccer player has
to forget about the mistake that they just made. But
I do know baseball players, and it's just it's an
entire career, it's a lifetime of failure and having to not.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Let that win the moment.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
I mean when you think about it, when you do
step back at it and look at a big picture, Ryan, Yeah,
you've lost two games in lopsided fashion, but they only
count as two losses and right now, well, you've got
a best of three series to get to the World
Series for goodness sake. So I don't know if sure
there's pressure, but I would think I'm waking up this
(15:10):
morning at home a chance to get the first leg
of that two out of three to get to the
World Series, and I am pumped. I am jacked when
I go to the ballpark today, one hundred percent.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
I was talking with the mentor of mind recently just
about the different mindsets baseball players have, and you kind
of go from like distractive thoughts to destructive thoughts to
productive thoughts and the possible thoughts, like how do we
get through that phase of right now, they're probably a
little more destructive. They're not distracted because they're focused. They're
destructive thoughts of the failure. How do we get them
to the productive thoughts of what do I need to
execute in this moment? And then how do I start
(15:42):
focusing on what's possible? Well, it's a two two series, boys,
it is possible to go to the World Series. We
can win a two out of three series. We've done
it multiple times this season. How do we bring some
of that optimism today and not over forcing the positivity,
but the belief of anything is possible. We've seen that
through four games of this series out on the DS.
Let's believe that today is possible and let's go execute.
(16:03):
And I know that's what's going on the clubhouse because
they got some guys with experience, not only have done
with the Mariners, with other teams that won World Series.
I thought that Mitch Garver talked about how the Rangers,
I believe they lost three straight to the Dbacks when
they were in Texas and then went back to Arizona
won the World Series. So there's experience in this and
guys have been through it. So how they handle it today,
I'm excited to watch.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
All right, Well, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Sorry we didn't have any surprises, but now that we
know that you like them behind it. Yeah, if you
end up having like a six foot cake delivered to
your house later on today, boy, you're not gonna know who's.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Gonna pop out of that thing.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Bucky, you don't fit in a six foot cake.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Now, it won't be Bucky. No, he won't make it.
All right, man?
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Thank you have a great weekend, great stuff all week long.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
We really appreciate it, Thank you, man, Go Mariners.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
All right, Ryan Ay Late joining us right here on
Chuck and Buck in the morning. Coming up next. We're
not done with the Mariners. We got the ABC the
DMS to get to Sports Radio ninety three point three.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
kJ R f M.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
We are at game number five of the American League
Championship Series. But Canada is here. I was told them
to break Canada is here. I didn't know what that meant.
And then all of a sudden, Canada is here. They
all like Mark Carney, Wayne Gretzky, Country, Yeah, everybody, Ryan Adams,
Brian Adams is here.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Summer.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
Maybe some of them can pull out a Looney in
a tuney and show you what that currency's all.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Finally find out what that is.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Eugene Levy's here, Ike Broflovski from South Park, he's.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Here's a lot of Canadians, Yeah, a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Of Jim Carrey is here.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
So Canada is here with us here in this segment,
and so we better make.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
This one of our best ABC's all the time.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
All right, Okay, we left off of the letter G,
and I don't normally do this. I've never done it
with the ABC's, and that is to just use the
feedback that I got overnight on social media regarding last
night should be fun eight to two butt whooping about
the hands of the Jays, and so gus for gambit,
(18:10):
H is for hate, and iis for irritation because we
pretty much ran the gambit on all of it, between hate, irritation,
and other various forms of emotions. So let's go through
some of the just the and I'm just going to
go in order. I really am just and react a
little bit to them. Ken, It's one game. We've played
one hundred and seventy of them this year. Let's just
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go get the next one, then rinse and repeat. Go
MS very level headed response to last night. It really
that's what it is. I mean, you know, you lost
games three, you lost games four. We weren't supposed to
win games one, game two. So now win game five
and you completely take control.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Of the series again.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Well, it's going to be intimidated by two straight law
two straight games in Toronto if we're up three to two.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Yeah, well they shouldn't be. I mean, ultimately, it's not
like they get to carry over. I mean, if they
if they kick your button by four runs or eight runs,
or nine runs. It's not like they get to start
with two or three the next day, so it is
start over.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Execute. Better, have a better game plan.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
Please change your approach, otherwise you're going to find yourself,
you know, with an uphill battle.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Going back to Toronto, ages for hate.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I said that why I hated everyone acting like it
was over at two to zho, we just can't have
anything good in Seattle Baseball number one. Not everybody was
reacting that way. And I do realize that some were
reacting that way, and some people even on our radio
station were reacting.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
That way, but not everybody. Let's not over exaggerate.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Bucky was completely level headed about all of this and
was actually warning people about thinking that it was over.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Well, I just don't. I can't do it. To me,
the embarrassment that comes with premature celebration is way worse
than just waiting wait until you have something for sure
to celebrate. You can feel good after going to Toronto
and win in a couple of games, but the job
is not done. The job is far from done, and
we've seen that they've come out and had a way
better approach against us. Put way more balls and play
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done way more damage, they've pitched better, We've started to
kind of flounder a little bit, but you can still
write the ship.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Now.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
It boils down to who can win two games first,
and you can do it. You can start that today.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I would also like to address they just can't have
anything good in Seattle baseball. I mean, are you not
recognizing that we do have something good here? We've got
something good here. I mean, yeah, I know, haven't been
to the World Series and we're two wins away, and
it felt a lot easier two games ago that we
were going to get there. But don't get to the
end of the season and act like we didn't have
(20:36):
anything good this year, please, I mean it was a
it's been a successful season. It could still be a
very disappointing ending being so close and not getting to
that ultimate destination. I get that one thousand percent. It's
going to be disappointing for everybody.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
But this is good stuff.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
We're in the ALCS and we're two wins away from
the World Series.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
It's a little bit of the crimea River, is what
I would say to most of people that are in
that situation. I mean, we've been sitting here watching a
team go up and down and find their way into
the postseason, and then find their way through a game
five of fifteen eighties, and then go fly across the
country to another country and take a couple of games
there to flounder when they got back home. And yeah,
it's disappointing, but there's nothing about it that isn't good.
(21:20):
What makes sports fun is the downside of sports, to
be honest, Otherwise the fund stuff doesn't feel as good.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yeah, so I kind of like me and my dating
life when it was just so easy for all those years.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Yeah I don't believe that, but yeah, you're right. Yeah,
it was a lot like your dating life. All those
bad dates made the good dates feel good.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Still waiting for one of those good dates. I hear
about awesome when it happens, I'm so ready, Jonathan, two
in a row. Really did not see this coming. How
could you have seen any of this coming? I mean,
nobody saw any of it coming. Nobody. I won't say nobody.
There I go talking in absolutes after I just criticized
people for talking in absolutes. But nobody saw winning did
(22:01):
it again? Few people saw us winning game number one,
and we did it. Fewer people saw us winning both
games on the road.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
And we did it.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Few people thought Toronto was going to get off of
the mat, and they did. And few people saw us
getting blown out back to back games and being put
in this situation.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
And yet that's where we are.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
And few people see us bouncing back today to win
game number five with Bryce Miller going against Kevin Gosman
for a second time. But I for one would not
be surprised if we didn't go out there and win
twelve to two today. Maybe it's our turn to get
you know, to have the day go our way.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
Well, I mean that's just the way that the sport is,
and this team in particular is like that. I mean,
if there is one thing that I would say advantage
Blue Jays, they're more consistent, But like I said earlier
in our show, I think their floor is higher. I
don't think that they played down to the level like
what we witnessed yesterday, the Mariners played down to not
executing pitching, not executing as the position players go when
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they step up to the dish. But at the same time,
I think that we have just as high of a
ceiling as anybody in baseball, and they're just gonna have
to go out and prove.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
It, Brian, uncompetitive at bats except Naylor and Revoss than
stupid base running, and I would add Naylor and Revos
and then just an exaggerated crap uh put on his tweet.
I think you nailed it, Brian. That's what the game
came down to. Uncompetitive at bats and Naylor and Revos
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screwing up any opportunity to put together the crooked inning,
crooked number inning that we needed to get back into
that game last night. Well, everybody understands how much more
weight and gravity is put on every single pitch when
it comes down to the postseason. And yet if you
give away outs, I mean you'll get Ginoswaz who's been
scuffling for quite some time. He gets a knock the
(23:51):
other way to drive a guy in, and you now
are going to bring the tying run to the plate,
and instead you run out of the inning. I mean,
as a pitcher's not very many times in a pressure
pack situation you give up a hit that drives in
a run and then you just get to walk off
the field into the dugout. I mean the shift in
that right there, it's a poor decision At the same time,
I think he plays aggressively. That's part of the way
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in which we've watched him steal thirty bags, even though
he's far from fast, and yet it's one of those
boy at certain times, just like Revis.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
You can't get picked off with cal Rawly at the
dish down by two.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Oh my gosh. I mean you just can't have it.
I mean, don't play today. That's how you can't have
that happen. I don't even want you on the field today.
And I like him as a player, but some punishment
has to exist. He has to be put in time
out about this. No need for a post game. Just
call it a night, go home and sit in the
dark and have a stiff drink or two. I did
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none of that. Maybe should have, but I did none
of that. We did do a post game. Oh I
did go home, so I did make it home. I
didn't just like sleep on the streets. I was so
stiff drink. Yeah, I sat in the dark and I
did not have a stiff drink or two.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I wouldn't do that before the post game show today?
Are you really not go home? But I'm a stiff
drink justin just bad baseball.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
It's hard to fathom having a two to zero lead
and coming back home to forty five thousand crazy loud
fans to have to complete complete and utter duds to
that point in the In the tweet, I agree with everything.
Then he goes on and says there's nothing in that dugout.
Don't agree with that. There's no energy, no focus, doesn't
seem like they even wanted to show up tonight.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
None of that is true. They wanted it.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Just as badly as they've wanted any game this year,
if not more. But there was an element of they
did not play well and so maybe focus, Maybe I'll
give you focus.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
But it wasn't an energy thing. It wasn't a want
two thing.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Maybe there was.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
A focus thing last night, because to me, it seemed
like Toronto was laser focused and their approach the last
two nights at the plate. And I didn't feel that
way in Game three, that we weren't focused, but I
certainly felt it last night. I thought that was some
crap approaches to the Max Scherzer.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Last night.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
They were far from dialed in. There's no doubt about that.
And yet I hate to break it to everyone out there.
I have been a Mariner, and I've been even more
so a Mariner fan. I mean, I'm forty five years
fifty years of being a Mariner fan. I get the
feel of disappointment. I understand the feeling of being cursed
or just nothing ever goes our way. We just can't
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quite get over the hump to get there. That said,
there's not a part of me that doesn't think that
every person that dugout wants it just as bad as
any fan does. They do because they're the ones that
get to either ride and ride the wave of glory
or they have to fall and feel the disappointment and
the shame that comes from getting up two games and
then not being able to find a way to win
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two more.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
And then finally, this is from Tanya. She writes, your
guys show is awesome because of Chuck. Everybody else should
just give him credit. I don't think you that's a
real treat tweet from Tanya. Well, we know that over
half of the tweets are bought. That's obviously a bot
from Ballard. I think no sounds No, she's really bright,
(27:06):
Tanya's ignorant.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
No, No, did she also send you a message as
asking you to follow her and maybe got.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
On a date with her.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Tanya went to Harvard. What she's talking about? Very bright?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
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and dag nab it. We better kick their asses.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Oh wow, ash fired up coming in hot. We're gonna
have to dump button you yeaby. Oh.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Now, I know everyone loves a motivational speech, So Mariners, Mariners, fans.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Chuck buck listen up.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Okay, picture your favorite motivational speech right now and say.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
It to yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
That doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Oh did that not help me feel inspired?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Oh god?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I was all excited, So now you're not motivated?
Speaker 3 (29:06):
No?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
All right, all right, all right, this is the Alcs.
Damn it.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
We're two wins away from that thing I cannot say
but rhymes with merled furies.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Now is the time to get it the f done. Fans.
You have crushed it this postseason.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yes, fans, you have done your part.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I have no doubt you will bring it again tonight. Mariners.
This one is actually up to you, guys. You Yeah,
the fans can't win.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
This game for you.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
They can cheer you along, support you, but this one's
on you. Bryce. You've got this, Cal You've got this big.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Julio, protect that no fly zone like it's nobody's business.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Randy, run fast, catch things, hit them.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Too, and maybe don't to have horrible at bats.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Jor, Hey, I know you got this,
mister October. Yeah, he's bringing it. JP. I want more
of that fielding from last night.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Let's go, Josh, I heart you, please be awesome tonight.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Gino, I want all the good vibes and all the
bass hits.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
I could use more base hits than good vibes right now.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Actually, you know what, if you do the base hits,
the good vibes come.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Let's let's concentrate on big hits.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Big hits, bring the vibes. Leo, Victor Gerber and everyone else.
We need runs like the great Jabuner once said, runs
runs and more runs.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Bullpen, can you hear me?
Speaker 4 (30:46):
We need to see straight fire from your majestic arms today,
straight fire.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Let's do this.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah, JA, might as well win this whole f and game.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Today, you just go to bullpen. Can you hear me?
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Hear me? Like second creepiest thing I've heard on air.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Today remotely close. Thank goodness, thank goodness.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
All right, well well done, thank you.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
We needed that kick in the pants, yep, I'm here
to deliver it. We needed this stiff, creamy drink.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, kicking the stomach.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Look, it's it's.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Like I said before, you know, as tough as it's been,
the twisting, winding road that only the Seattle Mariner organization
can create. Baseball's proven that momentum is a fleeting thing yep,
and it can turn on a dime. This series has
already turned on a dime twice. Yeah, for goodness sake. Uh,
And so you are facing I don't care what you've
(31:53):
gone through. It's a three game series with the first
one at home to go to the World Series. So
I don't want nerves, I don't want trepidation. I don't
want to think about last night or the night certainly
don't want the.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Players thinking that way.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Go out there and win two out of three games
and let's go to the World Series. For goodness sake,
I mean, that's all it comes down to. You work
your entire life for this moment, So win two out
of three. Who wouldn't want kill to be two out
of three away from getting to the World Series. That's
what we got in front of us tonight. Let's go Bryce.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Are you saying they should seize the moment?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Yeah, seize the moment, the moment, go take advantage.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Right there in front of you. Yeah, go get it.
Who wants it more? All right?
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Go ahead?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
All right.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
I have a great weekend. We will talk down the
postgame show, Bucky and I. We'll be back here Monday
morning at six am.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
And coming up next, that guy
Speaker 3 (32:49):
In there, Christopher Kidd with Mark James on Sports Radio
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Office pancakes.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Yeah, office pancakes.
Speaker 3 (00:02):
That was the thing.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Yeah, it's Flapjack Day.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
You thought that I would wear maple syrup cologne. Yeah,
I thought Buttersworth by Ralph Lauren. That's what I thought
we were dealing with over there.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
No, I would think you yeah, because you probably like
make your own maple syrup.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Yeah, exactly, I have made before, but I wouldn't wear
it a cologne.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
You like smell them? Oh yeah, smell like sausage though.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Sausage.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Oh well, maybe it's after Dinner by Jimmy sounds delicious.
Joining us now on the radio program is former Mariner
Ryan Healey, who's joined us throughout the course of the
postseason and the last couple of days.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I introduced him the old judge.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
We brought his best friend on the show yesterday, Uh,
to do analysis with him. I'm sorry, I don't have
any surprises. I don't have your high school coach, your
college girlfriend, or your local grocer here to greet you today.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Probably for the best, to be honest with.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
You, I'm trying.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
I have somebody you might want to keep your head
on a swelve ive. But I've spoke to somebody about
sneaking in there and trying to depants you during the interview.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
So heads up, did you get my wife's phone number
or something? Maybe?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Maybe? Yeah? Is she the cult lock?
Speaker 7 (01:23):
I'm gona lock the office door real quick. I don't
feel safe anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Well, that was fun yesterday. We got a lot of
compliments on that. That was some good stuff with you
and Kevin Plar on our show yesterday. But now we
get to isolate on Ryan Heay evaluation. So talk to
the Mariner fan because obviously, I mean, I thought that
was an even worse feeling yesterday than Game one or
Game three. To me, George just didn't have it in
(01:49):
Game three last night. It just felt like the Mariners
didn't have it. That just felt like a really bad
performance to me at a really bad time. So what
would you say about last night's game? Aim from your seat?
Speaker 7 (02:03):
This is the not fun part of the job for me,
when I need to be critical of a team that
I love and I'm rooting for. But there were a
lot of things that gave me the ick. And as
the Mariners fans, you guys are accustomed to seeing the ick,
and you haven't seen it in a while, And unfortunately,
it showed up last night. But the nice thing is
this is a best of seven series, so we have
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opportunities still, but how to we respond and how to
respond quickly? But there's two things that I'm just really
struggling with that. There's two pass balls or wild pitches
we want to call them. Recently with runners on third
base and breaking balls in the dirt. Were Riley's kind
of in between backhanding and blocking the ball the more
traditional way, and Cal's of Platin Glove winver or goal
or Platinum Glove winner. I don't deserve to be critical
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of him, but that situation I can be critical of
because the game in that playoff setting and the fans,
they deserve better effort out of that. And there's the
Randy Rose Raine at bats are really starting to frustrate me.
You know, there was I think it was a third
bat against Max Schurz or watch two fastballs down the middle,
then chase the come on the left handed batters box guilty.
I've done the same thing, so I know what that
feels like and I know why that happens. This game
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is really really hard on the defense of an offensive side.
I'll never forget that. But there's also a complete different
look of hitter right now in the batter's box between
what the Blue Jays are executing from one through nine
and what the Mariners are not executing one through nine.
And it's really the bottom of the order right now.
It looked like last night, the six through nine for
the Blue Jays score five runs, and our bottom third
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of the order for the Mariners is batten right around
a buck fifteen. It's just not it's not good enough
when we're relying every single night on the horses in
the middle of the order to do everything for us.
We don't get to the World Series and win this
World Series without us one through nine contributing.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I'm with you.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
And yet there was you know, not coming through like
cam Zone hit a couple of balls hard on the
ground yesterday. That's all you're going up there to do, right,
get a pitch, te try to hit a hard see
what the heck happens. But yes, you got to get
more contribution. I mean, the top of the order didn't
do anything outside of Cal and Julio with those first
Indian walks. They went silent the rest of the time too.
(04:05):
So when you're watching Max Scherzer. He's not the Max
suser that you should just fill up the strike zone
and say, here you go, you can't hit any of it.
He yesterday was going right after him early, especially once
he got the lead. Here you go, I'm gonna give
you one fastball, trick you into thinking I am the
old Max Schuzer I think I am, and then I'm
gonna I'm gonna kind of do to you and nibble
on the outside corner, and eventually they would take the bait.
(04:28):
Was there something you think game plan wise where they
weren't brought in, you know, brought up to speed as
to what they thought he was going to do, because
if they didn't have a good game planner approach going
into it, or they just didn't make adjustments as they
they saw fit. And yet I'm not one hundred percent
sure which one it was.
Speaker 7 (04:45):
That's fair, and I think you can have an approach,
you can have a really quality game plan, but it
always comes down to the execution. This game is really hard,
not just for the players, with the coaching staff because
they were facing a Hall of Fame pitcher last time,
a Max Sureser.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
And you have to give credit where credits.
Speaker 7 (04:59):
Due he he was executing his pitches all the way
from the fastball to the slider, to the curveball to
the change up, and yes he gave the one homer
on the change up to Naylor, but from there I
felt like Naylor was the only batter in that order
that was seeing the ball deep enough for me, if
you go through that game plan of what Scherzer was doing,
he was really dominating the outer half with that slider
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and then able to throw the curveball off of that.
So if he got aggressive swings off of that slider
from the right handed batter and they looked like they
were on tit a little bit more, he was able
to slow their gauge down a little bit more with
that big curveball, and he was changing speeds I saw.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
I think he ranged from ninety six mall an.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
Hour at the fastball last night to his seventy six
with that curveball, so at twenty plus mine hour. You know,
difference in those pitches. It's really challenging for a hitter
to try and be on time for everything when it
comes to that. The most success that I've seen players have,
it's eliminating pitches and eliminating zones. When you see a
pitcher executing really well on to off the plate for
the outer half, as the right handed hitter, you almost
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have to eliminate that side of the plate. He's gonna
land sliders, loan away for strikes and give it to him.
Wait for the mistake, and then don't miss it when
you get there. But I didn't see many mistakes from
Shuzer did his credit last night. But I also saw
over aggressive swings to the Mariners, and it stood out
tremendously because I wrote my notes. These Blue Jays just
don't expand the zone. They are stubborn at batter's box.
When they get their pitch, they find barrels.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yeah, Ryan Heally is with us here on check them
back in the morning as we break down last night's
loss to the Toronto Blue Jays, eight to two is
the final score. I don't want to keep you on
this path of criticism if it makes you uncomfortable. But
base running and then also pitching and maybe pitching changed decisions.
(06:42):
Just to get your wigh in on how Leo Revos
in that situation can get picked off of first or
Josh Naylor can try to get the third base, down
three in that situation, and then what you thought of
just overall the pitching plan last night from the Mariners.
Speaker 7 (06:59):
They're just momenting killers when you're getting when you're creating
outs on the bass pass. And to the Mariner's credit,
they have been so aggressive on the bass pass this
entire postseason and it's worked in their favor tremendously. I'm
a little more critical of Reevos getting picked off in
that situation.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
For me, that just can't happen.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
It looked like he got a little stagnant, the feet
weren't moving, and when he did slide back, the dirt
bears a little wet, so you don't always get the
You don't hit the forward progress that you get if
you don't have momentum behind it. So he kind of
just stuck when he dove back. And for me, Naylor,
this one's a coin flip. For me, I could be
critical the situation and say, how do you not know
where the right fielder is and you're not reading that
(07:35):
ball because it's kind of to your right as you're
making the move and now you're picking up a third
base coach, I didn't see what the third base coach's
decision was in that moment.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
So a lot going on.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
But I would never be the guy to tell Josh
Naylor to pull the reins back on the bass pass
because yes, he's the bottom five sprint speed in the
big leagues, but he also had thirty plus stolen bases,
and remember he stole third base against Trek s Googble
and the Alds. That put him in an RBI situation
with less than one out on plair base. It was tremendous.
I can't pull the reins back on him. Yes, the
(08:04):
situation in the moment in the game was critical. That
was frustrating when it comes to the pitching side, though,
I understand why Dan Wilson made the moves he did.
He was learning from the night before. Do you guys
remember in the game in the ds HOW Game I
fifth inning was just so decisive for almost every game.
It feels like a third ending is very decisive for
this series so far, at least what we've seen in
at the home games in Seattle. He was being aggressive
(08:25):
with getting to a bullpen that was fresh. I didn't
mind it, obviously, Spire walking the guy there was an ideal,
and then he got out of it. That was a
good minimization. That was a great adjustment from the night before.
It didn't end up working out. But realistically, man, if
we're not gonna get men on base and keep him
on base and move them around, what are we gonna
do How we're gonna score runs? But like you think
about him andiz him and it's in a two run
(08:45):
Homer then next to Batty comes up one out runner
or no outs, run out of second base, let me
bunt him over. Like, I just don't see that same
effort of I know every run really counts in this game.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
Right now, I'm with you. Well, I guess moving forward
it still is to too. Even though you know, I
think some people thought, well, we got this series wrapped
up after you win to it their place. And then
there's people that are jumping off the ship now thinking
well we screwed, We're screwed. Now we're cursed. And yet
he is still it's win two out of three. Find
a way. We got Bryce Miller going up against their ace.
(09:16):
What's the game plan with their ace? He he pitched
well against us. We ended up get you know, hanging
him with a loss. But he didn't pitch poorly. He
kind of has that splitty he likes to throw it
down below the zone. Cow went down and dug one
out first game. What's the game plan that if you're
one of the hitting coaches, you're saying, Hey, we got
to do this against this guy.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Get that splitty up or what.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
Yeah, I think the elevation. I actually have a good
feeling about tonight, just because of how well they handled Scubable,
especially in that the game two of the DS, meaning
they were able to eliminate the bottom below part of
the strike zone with that really good change that the
Terrek has. If they can push Kevin Gossman up in
the zone beyond time per his heater and just respond
and react to those those hanging splits that I know
(09:58):
he's going to throw at some point, we're gonna be in.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Good shape here.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
This is a lot of pressure falling on Bryce Miller,
and I don't know if he's gonna view this pressure
as an opportunity, but he's been great this postseason, so
I have a lot of confidence with him.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Tonight.
Speaker 7 (10:11):
We don't win unless we can minimize, you know, this
Toronto offense. If we can keep some runners off of
the base pass if we can not give them the
free passes, if we can minimize the leadoff extra base hits,
because every time they hit a leadof double, you're just like,
you know, that's gonna be a run. They're gonna bunch
of over. We're gonna get them in because theyn'll strike out.
This is gonna be a dog fight from innings one
through nine. And for some reason, us attacking early and
(10:32):
scoring early in the game, it's not phasing the Blue Jays,
and then when they punch back, it's phasing us. So
how do we respond after we absorb a blow and
exchange them a little bit to the middle part of
the inning. Because I love to see high leverage bullpen
arms come in seven, eight, nine and have it be
a little more meaningful.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I'm wondering, we're all wondering how to use Brian Wu.
I mean, you don't have all the information at your fingertips,
but obviously they've they've sent him to the bullpen in
Game three and didn't you didn't get him up last
night he was warming up and they decided not to
use him. I mean, there's no ideal situation. I mean,
at some point you're just gonna have to throw him
(11:08):
into this baptism by fire kind of situation here in
the American League Championship Series.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
And so, how long do you go Bryce Miller today?
What's the what's the hook rate here for for for
Miller today? And then is this the day that you
think maybe Brian wu makes his first appearance.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
I hope so. I would love to see Wu.
Speaker 7 (11:31):
I think that would be a lift for this team
in the meat of the game here in that four
or five six inning window. I would love to see
Bryce get through the line up twice execute his pitch
as well like he's done. I also think there's been
a lot of predictions for what's starting pitching he's gonna
do in this series, and every time we predict something
complete opposite happens. They were talking about the broadcast last night.
This series, this this al just postseason in general has
(11:53):
just been wild. And I haven't experienced this as a
player up to this point. But I have zero control
over the outcome of this game, and I'm strictly observing
and hoping for the Mariners and wanting the Mariners to win.
But when you see the games unfold, you just don't
know what's gonna happen. So I'd love to see Bryce
Miller go for me. They need to get Brian Woo
a clean inning, like having him come in from the
bullpen for clean inning, and then if we can target
(12:14):
two inning's awesome. But they're being very close to their
chest to the information. I saw Dan Wilson's interview postgame,
asked that same exact question, and his answer was, we'll
do it.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
When the time is right. It's like, what is the
right time. Let's start guessing. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Yeah, yeah, you called him at earlier this week. Yeah,
Ryan heally called Brian Woo a saint.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Well, it's like Dorothy Mantooth, you know, Dorothy Mantooth is
a saint.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, well he needs to we need to see the saint.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Then at some point when it comes to just overall,
the pressure that starts to mount, right, I mean you
kind of feel like they had the pressure after we
go take two at their place. Now they've they've you know,
returned the favor to some degree. Is there pressure on
the Mariners or does this team think I mean, you
know a lot of these guys, do they just have
(13:03):
the a Let's just get back to approaching the game
that we're supposed to grind out better at bats and
then execute when the time comes, or is there are
they starting to feel a little bit of pressure.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
I think they felt pressure all season, especially in the
second half, Like the pressure has been present, and I
guess I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt
because they've responded to that pressure every single time, not
to perfection, but especially late in the year when they
went to Houston and it's what the Astros that was
pressure and they executed Game five in the DS when
they played fifteen innings. Every one of those innings was pressure.
They responded to this pressure. How they respond tonight it's
(13:36):
gonna be really important. But you can see body language
from players right now that are frustrated with their results.
Like JP Crawford was one last night who flew out
on a fastball's a good pitch to hit, flew out
the center field and wanted to break his bat into
seventeen thousand pieces and kind of resisted and controlled himself
to just set it down. But you can just like
feel the frustration transform into disappointment in the moment, and
(13:59):
then you have those destructive thoughts. Is just baseball players
because this game is filled with failure, and then it's
the going home and being able to sleep and come
back tomorrow, And how do we project some energy in
this clubhouse? They have the guys to do that, and
I think that the way they conduct themselves today, the
conversations that they have, the way to communicate with each other.
How are we going to win this date, this game today,
or how are we gonna win this first inning? You
(14:21):
can't go win this game in the first pitch, So
how do we go dominate this first pitch so that
we can do it one pitch at a time and
then ultimately win this game?
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Well, I know the famous Ted Lasso line about be
a goldfish, and I don't really know soccer all that well,
so I don't know how often a soccer player has
to forget about the mistake that they just made. But
I do know baseball players, and it's just it's an
entire career, it's a lifetime of failure and having to not.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Let that win the moment.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
I mean when you think about it, when you do
step back at it and look at a big picture, Ryan, Yeah,
you've lost two games in lopsided fashion, but they only
count as two losses and right now, well, you've got
a best of three series to get to the World
Series for goodness sake. So I don't know if sure
there's pressure, but I would think I'm waking up this
(15:10):
morning at home a chance to get the first leg
of that two out of three to get to the
World Series, and I am pumped. I am jacked when
I go to the ballpark today, one hundred percent.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
I was talking with the mentor of mind recently just
about the different mindsets baseball players have, and you kind
of go from like distractive thoughts to destructive thoughts to
productive thoughts and the possible thoughts, like how do we
get through that phase of right now, they're probably a
little more destructive. They're not distracted because they're focused. They're
destructive thoughts of the failure. How do we get them
to the productive thoughts of what do I need to
execute in this moment? And then how do I start
(15:42):
focusing on what's possible? Well, it's a two two series, boys,
it is possible to go to the World Series. We
can win a two out of three series. We've done
it multiple times this season. How do we bring some
of that optimism today and not over forcing the positivity,
but the belief of anything is possible. We've seen that
through four games of this series out on the DS.
Let's believe that today is possible and let's go execute.
(16:03):
And I know that's what's going on the clubhouse because
they got some guys with experience, not only have done
with the Mariners, with other teams that won World Series.
I thought that Mitch Garver talked about how the Rangers,
I believe they lost three straight to the Dbacks when
they were in Texas and then went back to Arizona
won the World Series. So there's experience in this and
guys have been through it. So how they handle it today,
I'm excited to watch.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
All right, Well, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Sorry we didn't have any surprises, but now that we
know that you like them behind it. Yeah, if you
end up having like a six foot cake delivered to
your house later on today, boy, you're not gonna know who's.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Gonna pop out of that thing.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Bucky, you don't fit in a six foot cake.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Now, it won't be Bucky. No, he won't make it.
All right, man?
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Thank you have a great weekend, great stuff all week long.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
We really appreciate it, Thank you, man, Go Mariners.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
All right, Ryan Ay Late joining us right here on
Chuck and Buck in the morning. Coming up next. We're
not done with the Mariners. We got the ABC the
DMS to get to Sports Radio ninety three point three.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
kJ R f M.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
We are at game number five of the American League
Championship Series. But Canada is here. I was told them
to break Canada is here. I didn't know what that meant.
And then all of a sudden, Canada is here. They
all like Mark Carney, Wayne Gretzky, Country, Yeah, everybody, Ryan Adams,
Brian Adams is here.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Summer.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
Maybe some of them can pull out a Looney in
a tuney and show you what that currency's all.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Finally find out what that is.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Eugene Levy's here, Ike Broflovski from South Park, he's.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Here's a lot of Canadians, Yeah, a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Of Jim Carrey is here.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
So Canada is here with us here in this segment,
and so we better make.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
This one of our best ABC's all the time.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
All right, Okay, we left off of the letter G,
and I don't normally do this. I've never done it
with the ABC's, and that is to just use the
feedback that I got overnight on social media regarding last
night should be fun eight to two butt whooping about
the hands of the Jays, and so gus for gambit,
(18:10):
H is for hate, and iis for irritation because we
pretty much ran the gambit on all of it, between hate, irritation,
and other various forms of emotions. So let's go through
some of the just the and I'm just going to
go in order. I really am just and react a
little bit to them. Ken, It's one game. We've played
one hundred and seventy of them this year. Let's just
(18:31):
go get the next one, then rinse and repeat. Go
MS very level headed response to last night. It really
that's what it is. I mean, you know, you lost
games three, you lost games four. We weren't supposed to
win games one, game two. So now win game five
and you completely take control.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Of the series again.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Well, it's going to be intimidated by two straight law
two straight games in Toronto if we're up three to two.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Yeah, well they shouldn't be. I mean, ultimately, it's not
like they get to carry over. I mean, if they
if they kick your button by four runs or eight runs,
or nine runs. It's not like they get to start
with two or three the next day, so it is
start over.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Execute. Better, have a better game plan.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
Please change your approach, otherwise you're going to find yourself,
you know, with an uphill battle.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Going back to Toronto, ages for hate.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I said that why I hated everyone acting like it
was over at two to zho, we just can't have
anything good in Seattle Baseball number one. Not everybody was
reacting that way. And I do realize that some were
reacting that way, and some people even on our radio
station were reacting.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
That way, but not everybody. Let's not over exaggerate.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Bucky was completely level headed about all of this and
was actually warning people about thinking that it was over.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Well, I just don't. I can't do it. To me,
the embarrassment that comes with premature celebration is way worse
than just waiting wait until you have something for sure
to celebrate. You can feel good after going to Toronto
and win in a couple of games, but the job
is not done. The job is far from done, and
we've seen that they've come out and had a way
better approach against us. Put way more balls and play
(20:05):
done way more damage, they've pitched better, We've started to
kind of flounder a little bit, but you can still
write the ship.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Now.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
It boils down to who can win two games first,
and you can do it. You can start that today.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I would also like to address they just can't have
anything good in Seattle baseball. I mean, are you not
recognizing that we do have something good here? We've got
something good here. I mean, yeah, I know, haven't been
to the World Series and we're two wins away, and
it felt a lot easier two games ago that we
were going to get there. But don't get to the
end of the season and act like we didn't have
(20:36):
anything good this year, please, I mean it was a
it's been a successful season. It could still be a
very disappointing ending being so close and not getting to
that ultimate destination. I get that one thousand percent. It's
going to be disappointing for everybody.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
But this is good stuff.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
We're in the ALCS and we're two wins away from
the World Series.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
It's a little bit of the crimea River, is what
I would say to most of people that are in
that situation. I mean, we've been sitting here watching a
team go up and down and find their way into
the postseason, and then find their way through a game
five of fifteen eighties, and then go fly across the
country to another country and take a couple of games
there to flounder when they got back home. And yeah,
it's disappointing, but there's nothing about it that isn't good.
(21:20):
What makes sports fun is the downside of sports, to
be honest, Otherwise the fund stuff doesn't feel as good.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yeah, so I kind of like me and my dating
life when it was just so easy for all those years.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Yeah I don't believe that, but yeah, you're right. Yeah,
it was a lot like your dating life. All those
bad dates made the good dates feel good.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Still waiting for one of those good dates. I hear
about awesome when it happens, I'm so ready, Jonathan, two
in a row. Really did not see this coming. How
could you have seen any of this coming? I mean,
nobody saw any of it coming. Nobody. I won't say nobody.
There I go talking in absolutes after I just criticized
people for talking in absolutes. But nobody saw winning did
(22:01):
it again? Few people saw us winning game number one,
and we did it. Fewer people saw us winning both
games on the road.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
And we did it.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Few people thought Toronto was going to get off of
the mat, and they did. And few people saw us
getting blown out back to back games and being put
in this situation.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
And yet that's where we are.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
And few people see us bouncing back today to win
game number five with Bryce Miller going against Kevin Gosman
for a second time. But I for one would not
be surprised if we didn't go out there and win
twelve to two today. Maybe it's our turn to get
you know, to have the day go our way.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
Well, I mean that's just the way that the sport is,
and this team in particular is like that. I mean,
if there is one thing that I would say advantage
Blue Jays, they're more consistent, But like I said earlier
in our show, I think their floor is higher. I
don't think that they played down to the level like
what we witnessed yesterday, the Mariners played down to not
executing pitching, not executing as the position players go when
(22:59):
they step up to the dish. But at the same time,
I think that we have just as high of a
ceiling as anybody in baseball, and they're just gonna have
to go out and prove.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
It, Brian, uncompetitive at bats except Naylor and Revoss than
stupid base running, and I would add Naylor and Revos
and then just an exaggerated crap uh put on his tweet.
I think you nailed it, Brian. That's what the game
came down to. Uncompetitive at bats and Naylor and Revos
(23:28):
screwing up any opportunity to put together the crooked inning,
crooked number inning that we needed to get back into
that game last night. Well, everybody understands how much more
weight and gravity is put on every single pitch when
it comes down to the postseason. And yet if you
give away outs, I mean you'll get Ginoswaz who's been
scuffling for quite some time. He gets a knock the
(23:51):
other way to drive a guy in, and you now
are going to bring the tying run to the plate,
and instead you run out of the inning. I mean,
as a pitcher's not very many times in a pressure
pack situation you give up a hit that drives in
a run and then you just get to walk off
the field into the dugout. I mean the shift in
that right there, it's a poor decision At the same time,
I think he plays aggressively. That's part of the way
(24:11):
in which we've watched him steal thirty bags, even though
he's far from fast, and yet it's one of those
boy at certain times, just like Revis.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
You can't get picked off with cal Rawly at the
dish down by two.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Oh my gosh. I mean you just can't have it.
I mean, don't play today. That's how you can't have
that happen. I don't even want you on the field today.
And I like him as a player, but some punishment
has to exist. He has to be put in time
out about this. No need for a post game. Just
call it a night, go home and sit in the
dark and have a stiff drink or two. I did
(24:42):
none of that. Maybe should have, but I did none
of that. We did do a post game. Oh I
did go home, so I did make it home. I
didn't just like sleep on the streets. I was so
stiff drink. Yeah, I sat in the dark and I
did not have a stiff drink or two.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I wouldn't do that before the post game show today?
Are you really not go home? But I'm a stiff
drink justin just bad baseball.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
It's hard to fathom having a two to zero lead
and coming back home to forty five thousand crazy loud
fans to have to complete complete and utter duds to
that point in the In the tweet, I agree with everything.
Then he goes on and says there's nothing in that dugout.
Don't agree with that. There's no energy, no focus, doesn't
seem like they even wanted to show up tonight.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
None of that is true. They wanted it.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Just as badly as they've wanted any game this year,
if not more. But there was an element of they
did not play well and so maybe focus, Maybe I'll
give you focus.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
But it wasn't an energy thing. It wasn't a want
two thing.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Maybe there was.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
A focus thing last night, because to me, it seemed
like Toronto was laser focused and their approach the last
two nights at the plate. And I didn't feel that
way in Game three, that we weren't focused, but I
certainly felt it last night. I thought that was some
crap approaches to the Max Scherzer.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Last night.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
They were far from dialed in. There's no doubt about that.
And yet I hate to break it to everyone out there.
I have been a Mariner, and I've been even more
so a Mariner fan. I mean, I'm forty five years
fifty years of being a Mariner fan. I get the
feel of disappointment. I understand the feeling of being cursed
or just nothing ever goes our way. We just can't
(26:21):
quite get over the hump to get there. That said,
there's not a part of me that doesn't think that
every person that dugout wants it just as bad as
any fan does. They do because they're the ones that
get to either ride and ride the wave of glory
or they have to fall and feel the disappointment and
the shame that comes from getting up two games and
then not being able to find a way to win
(26:42):
two more.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
And then finally, this is from Tanya. She writes, your
guys show is awesome because of Chuck. Everybody else should
just give him credit. I don't think you that's a
real treat tweet from Tanya. Well, we know that over
half of the tweets are bought. That's obviously a bot
from Ballard. I think no sounds No, she's really bright,
(27:06):
Tanya's ignorant.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
No, No, did she also send you a message as
asking you to follow her and maybe got.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
On a date with her.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Tanya went to Harvard. What she's talking about? Very bright?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
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the show, Final segment of the week. Christopher Kidd in studio.
(27:39):
And So I think I know what that means.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
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Speaker 2 (27:46):
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Speaker 6 (28:14):
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Speaker 2 (28:18):
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Speaker 1 (28:20):
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Speaker 6 (28:23):
Oh I'm always responsible when I jump into booze.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
All right, we got another big game today, guys, Big
game three pm, T Mobile Park. It's US versus Canada
and dag nab it. We better kick their asses.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Oh wow, ash fired up coming in hot. We're gonna
have to dump button you yeaby. Oh.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Now, I know everyone loves a motivational speech, So Mariners, Mariners, fans.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Chuck buck listen up.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Okay, picture your favorite motivational speech right now and say.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
It to yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
That doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Oh did that not help me feel inspired?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Oh god?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I was all excited, So now you're not motivated?
Speaker 3 (29:06):
No?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
All right, all right, all right, this is the Alcs.
Damn it.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
We're two wins away from that thing I cannot say
but rhymes with merled furies.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Now is the time to get it the f done. Fans.
You have crushed it this postseason.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yes, fans, you have done your part.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I have no doubt you will bring it again tonight. Mariners.
This one is actually up to you, guys. You Yeah,
the fans can't win.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
This game for you.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
They can cheer you along, support you, but this one's
on you. Bryce. You've got this, Cal You've got this big.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Julio, protect that no fly zone like it's nobody's business.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Randy, run fast, catch things, hit them.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Too, and maybe don't to have horrible at bats.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Jor, Hey, I know you got this,
mister October. Yeah, he's bringing it. JP. I want more
of that fielding from last night.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Let's go, Josh, I heart you, please be awesome tonight.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Gino, I want all the good vibes and all the
bass hits.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
I could use more base hits than good vibes right now.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Actually, you know what, if you do the base hits,
the good vibes come.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Let's let's concentrate on big hits.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Big hits, bring the vibes. Leo, Victor Gerber and everyone else.
We need runs like the great Jabuner once said, runs
runs and more runs.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Bullpen, can you hear me?
Speaker 4 (30:46):
We need to see straight fire from your majestic arms today,
straight fire.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Let's do this.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah, JA, might as well win this whole f and game.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Today, you just go to bullpen. Can you hear me?
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Hear me? Like second creepiest thing I've heard on air.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Today remotely close. Thank goodness, thank goodness.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
All right, well well done, thank you.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
We needed that kick in the pants, yep, I'm here
to deliver it. We needed this stiff, creamy drink.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, kicking the stomach.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Look, it's it's.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Like I said before, you know, as tough as it's been,
the twisting, winding road that only the Seattle Mariner organization
can create. Baseball's proven that momentum is a fleeting thing yep,
and it can turn on a dime. This series has
already turned on a dime twice. Yeah, for goodness sake. Uh,
And so you are facing I don't care what you've
(31:53):
gone through. It's a three game series with the first
one at home to go to the World Series. So
I don't want nerves, I don't want trepidation. I don't
want to think about last night or the night certainly
don't want the.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Players thinking that way.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Go out there and win two out of three games
and let's go to the World Series. For goodness sake,
I mean, that's all it comes down to. You work
your entire life for this moment, So win two out
of three. Who wouldn't want kill to be two out
of three away from getting to the World Series. That's
what we got in front of us tonight. Let's go Bryce.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Are you saying they should seize the moment?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Yeah, seize the moment, the moment, go take advantage.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Right there in front of you. Yeah, go get it.
Who wants it more? All right?
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Go ahead?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
All right.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
I have a great weekend. We will talk down the
postgame show, Bucky and I. We'll be back here Monday
morning at six am.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
And coming up next, that guy
Speaker 3 (32:49):
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