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October 2, 2025 36 mins
The Mariners will know their opponent for the ALDS this afternoon and as the division series inches closer, it’s time to gauge our confidence in the various aspects of this team. From the starting pitching to the bullpen, to the offense, where are we at? What are we the least confident in? :30- MIKE SANDO (The Athletic) joins the show ahead of tonight’s Thursday Night Football game between the Rams and 49ers. Have the Niners injuries finally caught up to them? Is the Seahawks and Bucs game one of the biggest of week 5? How impressive has Sam Darnold been? Is Mike concerned about the Ravens? The Cleveland Browns made a change at QB, will Dillon Gabriel be the answer? :45- We close out the Thursday show with one last thing.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Man, and I wish I would have scared you on
the way to the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Whoa, you're gonna get it now.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
You think we're even we're not.

Speaker 4 (00:10):
I mean, you tried to make me think I was
locked in the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
All I did was hold the door. I was holding
the door for you. It's like a gentleman thing.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
I did think of doing this, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
But I was holding the door for you.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
I did think of doing the same thing.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
And I was like, all he's going to do is
turn the knob and it's going to be like no
one was holding the other side of the door. I'm
not nearly as strung as as it will have no effect.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
So yeah, that.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
So I hid behind the corner and with scary fingers
and a scary face, thinking that if he turned to
look that way, I'd scare him. But then he didn't look,
So then I went ah, not even really loud. It
was at that volume anyway.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Which no one, by the way, looks that way. You're
coming out of the bathroom. There's nothing to the right.
There's a door that goes to.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
The old building.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
See me out of the corner of your I'm scared
of it.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, Okay, so you would, you would have already been
on your toes. Not me just walking out, Oh willy nilly,
just feeling real good about myself. I just went to
the bathroom with no no mishaps, and she yells.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Right behind me.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
I jumped, which if I had seen her and she
had her scary face with her claws, that would scared me.
I want yell was the only thing that got me,
and you got me.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Now I'm in trouble.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Happy Calloween Happy.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
It's the spear of the season, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
I agree, I agree?

Speaker 5 (01:30):
All right, Well, the Mariners will play on Saturday. Today,
the Guardians and the Tigers will play game number three
of their wild card series.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
We will know about three o'clock who are opponent's going
to be on Saturday, So third and decisive game today,
and it should be a lot of fun to watch,
there's no question about that.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
And then the Mariners will start their preparations. Maybe we
start getting the roster decisions at the end of the day,
at the latest tomorrow, maybe we'll find out the number
one starter for the series today. No later than tomorrow.
I would assume they have one more scrimmage that's going
on this evening at five o'clock and they are selling
tickets to that, so if people are interested. Looks like

(02:14):
those that went yesterday had a good time with it.
And so yes, Ashley, I know you said this is
going to be the longest week ever. Here we sit
with one hour to go on our Thursday show.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Yeah, it feels like it's been three weeks since the
Mariner's last place.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
You looked at me, Yeah, dropped your head.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
Yeah instead, I'm sorry, but no, it feels like a
very long time since the Mariners last played baseball, and
the anticipation continues to grow every day. I'm very excited,
I'm very eager. I'm somewhat nervous, all of the emotions.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
All right, Well, I'm not going to We're not going
to run the nervous game. You know what we're gonna do.
We're gonna judge your confidence. I like it going into
the weekend series. So let's get it started. Let's talk
about offense. Some bucket scale from one to ten. What's
your confidence level that the offense will come through this postseason?

Speaker 4 (03:08):
Mm?

Speaker 2 (03:12):
An eight?

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Pretty high? Yeah, I mean I don't if we've gone
into the postseason, we got again in the postseason last year.
But number would have been two. It wouldn't have been good.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, it would have been It would have been like
I literally am just hoping for one guy to hit a.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Bomb, hit a three run homer, yes, exactly.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
And yet now it's not even close to that. And
that's part of the reason why I don't necessarily have
much concern about rust. And that doesn't mean they couldn't
go out there and scuffle. I just don't think it's
going to be because of rust. I think I think
this team, when you go basically one through nine, has
some grinders in there. They have some danger. I mean,

(03:54):
there's crazy you might have a guy hitting fifth with
fifty homers almost, I mean you could. I mean the
idea of what this team has. As far as the potential,
I mean, I don't. I don't.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
There's not a lot of teams out there that I.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Just say, oh, I would for sure trade my team
for that team as far as the offense goes. And
yet we got to see him do it. They got
to go out and do it. It's but hopefully they
don't put a whole bunch of undue, unnecessary pressure on
themselves individually and just go out there and try to
grind out AB's.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
I got an eight too, That's what I wrote all
mine down beforehand. I got an eight as well. I
think the depth and the balance of this offense is outstanding.
It's not just outstanding by Mariners standards in the last
few years and the Depoto era. Offensively, I think it's
just outstanding. I think it measures up against just about
anybody's in the league. You know, I'm a little worried

(04:47):
about versus lefties, but believe it or not, the splits
aren't as outrageous as you what what you might think.
I think we can play small ball if we need
to with this group. I think that we can steal bases.
I think we can play a home run war with
anybody in the American League. Maybe not the Yankees at
Yankee Stadium because they're kind of built for that stadium.

(05:07):
But yeah, I don't think we're going to get eliminated
from the playoffs because of our offense.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
Yeah, and I would say if we were judging it
just on potential, I'd give it a ten. But four
decades of being a Mariners fan does make me, you know,
I have I keep my reservations just a little bit.
So then that gives me like a six and a
half or seven because of my nerves, so averaging out
to yeah, about an eight, just that I think they
can get the job done, but I step into all

(05:36):
of it with a little bit of hesitation, just because
of so many years of well even.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
This year, I mean even then recently than the month
of September. They went along stretching.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Like, what is happening? Very good point, why are we hitting?

Speaker 3 (05:48):
What is happening here? So that thing is the thing
that keeps you from putting it to a ten. Yeah,
maybe a go nine, but you can't go because this
team can move.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Heird, they're like sibil, they got like six different person
To be honest, I don't know for sure. If you
could put an offense out there, I mean that I
would just think is ten unless it's like the All
Star team, right.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Maybe the Dodgers.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
I think then I don't feel like it's a ten.
I mean I feel like it's yeah, show Hey does
what show Hay does, and Mooki does what he does,
and Freddy does what he does. You're like, and ta
Oscar's chipping in, then you're like, yeah, we're gonna score
four or five plus runs a game, but you can't
guarantee it's gonna happen. Matter of fact, they run into
our pitching staff off our pitching staff's on, they ain't
gonna be a ten.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
All right, Well, let's talk about our pitching staff starting
pitching scale from one to ten. Actually, how confident are
you that they're gonna come through?

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Man, no, this is again.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
I'm gonna go starting pitching only I've got to go
with us seven seven, yeah, which I know seems a
little low, and I really okay, seems very low. But
it's just again, it's those reservations that, yeah, that's fair.
It's those reservations that I can't get yeah, that I

(06:57):
can't get past.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
It's the it's that that's that.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Feeling of what's going to go wrong that you know,
I think is in the back of a lot of
Mariners fans minds. Now, I'm not letting it overtake that
my confidence. You know, I'm giving them a seven. It's
on the higher end of five of the tend to
or zero to ten scale. But I just worry about
those little blow ups that we have seen from each

(07:21):
one of these guys.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
This season. It's not just one person that's had those
little blow ups.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
I was gonna go nine, but because of the Wu,
I'm gonna knock it down to half a point, So
I'm gonna go eight and a half. I am. I'm
pretty I'm very confident with this group. And I know
they've had some injuries this year, and I know they
have had their scuffles, but they are all kind of
on a roll right now. I mean, Bucky's repeatedly pointed
out the Castillo success in his last four starts, and

(07:51):
even though they've he's been better in his last four
starts than everybody else in the rotation. Logan Gilbert's got
like a two to two e ER this month, and
Brian Wu He's got a two point four ERA over
his last seven starts, and George seems to have fixed
things right now. And I think they all have the
right kind of motor for this occasion. Like who's a

(08:13):
tenacious competitor? Logan as goofy as he is is a
tenacious competitor. Castile might be just that personality that just
like I'm I'm not gonna get worked up. Maybe you're
gonna get worked up, but I'm not gonna get worked
up that cool customer. I mean, it's a different personality.
But and then George, h yeah, sometimes he can't gets
his own he gets in his own way sometimes, but

(08:34):
I have a feeling he's going to rise to the occasion.
I feel really confident about this group and I think
that the only reason not a ten is because I
don't think we have a Schooble type that I feel
like if we're faced to Trek Scooble, we're going to
get too great efforts throwing us. I don't know if
we have that guy, but in terms of our depth,

(08:55):
every single game that we pitch, we're gonna have a
very good starter to great starter on the mound. Nobody
else can say that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
I mean you just gotta go out there and think, Okay,
when when we put this guy's name down and he
goes out to the rubber, how good do you feel
about his chances of giving you a chance to win?
And there's I don't think there's another organization that feels
as good, regardless of what game, regardless where you're playing,
as the as the Mariners, you I'll go nine, But

(09:25):
that's because I'd be hard pressed for me to give
a ten to anything. I just don't A ten is
a perfect score, right, I don't. I just have a
hard time thinking. I mean, because there's these guys aren't perfect,
They're still human, and the idea that you're going to
go out there and execute you know, your pitches. No,
but if you make a mistake to one guy, you
probably get away with that. You make a mistake to

(09:45):
somebody else and maybe won't. Next thing you know, you're
walking out of the game giving up three and five innings,
and you're you're on the comeback trail. You're you're you're
playing a different type of ballgame. So but I feel good.
I feel good about it. I feel good about whether
it's Logan. I wouldn't be surprised if it is Logan first,
Castillo second, and then Wu coming back for your first
game on the road. I mean, I feel good about

(10:06):
where we're at.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
I want you to think about something. The Boston Red
Sox and New York Yankees are playing a game with
their seasons on the line night and they are starting
Connolly early, who uh huh? And Cam Schlittler And the
only reason you know him is because we faced him
and Angie was scared to pronounce his name.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
That's the only reason I know him.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Yeah, correct and so talented, no doubt about it. But
that's like us getting to Game three of our playoff
and starting Logan Evans. Yeah, I mean they're more they
throw a harder fastball, but I'm just from those guys
were not part of the plan when the season began.
They have been forced into the plan because of injuries
or ineffectiveness. We've got all five of our guy. Bryce

(10:48):
Miller's not gonna make a postseason rotation for goodness sake.
So that's how well equipped we are. And it's a
lot of credit to the Mariners, not just they're developing
a pitching talent, but also the way that they keep
the guys healthy, because almost every other starting rotation is
beliaguered at this point in the year, and ours feels
like it's its strongest it's been all season long. All right,

(11:10):
let's go to bullpen. How confident are you with the bullpen?
I'll get this start with it. I'm gonna go seven.
I like to make it a little bit higher, but
I think that is a notch up from where I
was maybe a month ago with this group, but keep
in mind with the rest and it really does help.
I mean, we got everybody available Saturday and Sunday nobody's

(11:31):
not available, and Munyos is available for more than three outs.
I mean, you saw it with Chapman. He hadn't thrown
a four out save all year long, but in game
number one of the playoffs, what did Boston do? They
went to Chapman in the eighth inning. So we also
have that at our disposal. We're gonna have Bryce Miller
back there. So yeah, I feel pretty good that we're
gonna confident that we're gonna get six innings most playoff

(11:52):
games out of our starters. Then you can now you
can combine forces Bucky, you can go a Ferguson and
Bizardo to get you through the seventh, and a brash
and aspire to get through through the eighth, and Munnos
if you need him, can even come into the eighth
and get it out. So I think it's really stacked
up well for this group, and so I think seven
is a solid number for them. I think we've had

(12:13):
better bullpens at this time of the year the last
few years, but I think that this won't be a
reason why we lose the postseason.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, well, I mean if I feel like if you do,
if you get bounced in this round, I think that's
where I think it would come from, to be honest.
And the only reason I say that's if if you
need to get through more than just two Indians, and
you're right, you can use Munnos for more if you want.
But if you're thinking about this is a month long

(12:43):
postseason that you're trying to go on, you're not saving
them early because every single win is important. But if
you're thinking about, Okay, no, this works out matchup wise,
we can go Bizartro I think is probably that dude,
or Gabe is probably that guy. If you go that
route and it's one of their off nights, then you know,
I think this offense can pick up the bullpen. I'm
going to go probably a seven. I maybe would lean

(13:04):
more towards even like a six and a half, but
that's because I feel real strong about a couple guys
and then the other guys that I know we're going
to need to rely on at some point in time
through at the course of this series and the rest
of the postseason. I just am like, I feel great
about bizarre, huh.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
They've never been here. But yeah, I feel.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Great about the way Barzardo has pitched all year, and
yet I still don't. I feel the same as I
do about Carlos Vargas, who was unbelievable for the first
half of the season, first two thirds, and then he
scuffled a little bit as of late. I feel kind
of like Bizarro could be that guy too, and I
just don't want that to rear its ugly head in
the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
I'm going to go seven and a half, and that
is because I do feel like the rest is going
to be so important for them, and I think they
were overused quite a bit this year because the starters
weren't going deep enough into games and that screwed us
over for the next game.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
In the next game when and they were going.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
Back to back days and I just think they they
more than anyone, could really use that rest, and I
think it's going to be more most beneficial to them,
and I would go higher, but they've had those blow
ups too, so there is always that nervous factor.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
But I think the seven and a half.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
I love that Dan because I think Dan has gotten
better at managing now that we're not talking about you
got you got to play for one hundred and sixty two.
When he got to the point where he was just managing, like, no,
we got to play to win this game, I think
he really started to click. Yeah, and now you're getting
into the postseason and that's completely different animal. And so

(14:30):
let's just roll that. So I think that you're going
to see him, you know, I think it's going to
be slightly different, but I think it's going to fall
right into what he does best, frankly and trying to
figure out the matchups here. So let's get to manager
at your confidence level with Dan Wilson heading into the playoff.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Well, I mean he's gonna be going against who do
you got hinch? And who's the hinter or vote or vote?
I mean he's got to the year pretty much just
as much experience as vote. I mean, right there close
he's been. He's older and vote is obviously, and I
would say enough to vote. Yes, he is he really yeah,

(15:09):
just barely. That's good. That'd be amazing if he was
the manager of a big league team.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
It's happened before Minnesota Twins. Yeah, yeah, yeah, eleven year old.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
I think Angels in the outfield or something like that.
I don't even know what that is. I don't even
know what you're talking about. I feel good. I mean,
I I think that he has his pulse on the team.
And I think that we've heard guys talk about the
previous manager and I like service, but that he at
times looked he felt nervous.

Speaker 6 (15:38):
He's like pacing.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
And if you all of a sudden feel like you're
the captain of the ship is nervous, well, then that's
going to permeate throughout the rest of the team. I
don't think Dan has that. It's not like he doesn't
feel what's going on. I just don't think he stresses
out about it. He just is more in the kind
of optimistic I believe in you guys. I believe you
can do it, keep going, keep fighting, let's see what happens.

(15:59):
And so I I mean, I think I don't think
he's gonna make a bunch of horrific decisions. There's a
lot that rides on every single pitch and every single decision.
But I think i'd give him an eight eight.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
What about you, Ashlely, Yeah, I'm probably gonna go seven
and a half, seven and three quarters. I want to
go to an eight, but yeah, there have been some
questionable things, and then the lack of experience is what
holds me back from going to an eight.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
So I'm gonna go lower, I'm gonna go I'm gonna
I'm gonna go six. And that's given him the benefit
of the doubt. I think he I'm a little worried
about this because I think the game was a little
too fast for him at the beginning of the year,
and now the decisions they just come out of it's playoffs,
they just come at a more rapid pace. So I'm
a little worried about it. To be honest, it's probably

(16:40):
the thing that I'm worried most about. We don't have
time to go around the horn with this. But I
also I think mentality is also an important thing, and
I just love the mentality of this team. I get
it at a really high score as well. I have
watched the Mariners teams that I felt have shut down
at times. I have watched this team earlier in this
season where I felt like, guys, are you not focused?

(17:03):
Is what is happening here? And I suppose that's very
difficult to do. Over one hundred and sixty two games.
But since the Josh Naylor and Gino Swarez additions, Man,
I think that those two leaders for providing the suite
and the salt that this team needs, and the veteran
leadership and the grit when you need it, and the
patche on the back and the smile when you need it,

(17:24):
they've really rounded out this group. I don't think mentality
is going to be an issue. I think they are
really well constructed in this area. And I know Jerry
Depoto doesn't value clubhouse and leadership all that much. It's
been a criticism of him in the past. I do,
and I think that this group is really great right now.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, I bring them that the highest the mentality.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
All right, coming up so important, Mike Sando is going
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with our NFL insider, Mike Sando, so let's get caught

(18:06):
up high. Mike, good morning, how are you. How are you?
How's the family? How's everything? We haven't talked in two weeks.
Everything good?

Speaker 7 (18:13):
Oh, everything's good.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Everything's good. And we're gonna.

Speaker 7 (18:15):
Motor through another season and having a lot of fun
doing it.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
All right, Well, let's start with a Thursday night football game.
I usually save that toward the end, but it's a
division matchup, our division here in Seattle, and it's pretty
fascinating on its face. What do you think of forty
nine Ers Rams tonight?

Speaker 7 (18:34):
It'll probably end up being some kind of a slugfest.
They've played some ugly games, but you would sure think
the Rams have the big advantage with the health. I mean,
the forty nine ers are really you know, they've not
only lost Nick Bosa, but they've got their quarterbacks out
and George Kittle's out, and I don't know if Christian
McCaffrey's the same player. Shoot, the more I talk, the
more the X are going to be upset. They lost

(18:55):
that first game to them. But you gotta like the Rams,
don't you?

Speaker 3 (19:00):
I do? And I don't. I mean eight. It's going
from one and a half to eight and a half points,
which seems kind of crazy to me. Mac Jones are not.
That's it. I kind of like the Rams not only
to win the game, but to kind of dominate this
game tonight. I just think that there's a discrepancy. I
heard Greg Cosell breaking down the forty nine Ers running
game just yesterday, and he's like, they can't run the football.

(19:23):
A team with Christian McCaffrey and Kyle Shanahan and they
can't run the football this year.

Speaker 7 (19:29):
Yeah, yeah, completely, I agree with you. It's concerning now.
Like I said, sometimes these games turn out to be
ugly dog fights anyway. And you know, so the eight
and a half would scare me a little bit just
because it wouldn't shock me at all if it was,
you know, if it somehow ended up being a twenty
to fourteen game or something, right, And sometimes the game

(19:51):
just maybe the Rams just do enough to win the game, right,
It could be that, But on paper, there's no way.
On paper, eight and a half seems fine.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, I mean when you're looking at this, I mean, obviously,
by talking about the Thursday night game, it sounds like
leaning in the direction of the Rams. If it's not
for anything, just even more than just the health at
this point and the lack of run game out of
San Francisco. But when you just look at the division
right now and measuring Seattle up against everybody where, do
you kind of feel like they sit even though they're

(20:22):
sitting at three in one just like the other two.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
I think I just.

Speaker 7 (20:25):
Slot them in right behind the Rams until they beat them. Now,
they didn't beat the forty nine ers eater, but I'm sorry,
I think they would beat them again. I think they
would have beat them the next week. You know, they
probably should have beaten them, you know, with you and
I think just given the state of the teams. So
but I think there's a burden of proof on Seattle
to beat the Rams, and I need to see that
and once I do, then we can go that way.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
I'm a thousand percent with you on that. Mike Sander
is with us our NFL insider from the Athletic. You
can of course follow them at Sando NFL and of
course you all are. What about Seahawks Buccaneers. This shaping
up to be one of the best matchups this weekend?

Speaker 7 (20:58):
It is The Bucks are super in injured team, too
unbelievable injury list for them, So it's a game that
the you know, the Seahawks should win at home. But
but the Bucks are frisky. Baker Mayfield's frisky. I mean,
he's a gamer. He's going to come in there and
he's gonna lay it on the line. He may give
you two passes you can intercept, but he may throw
you know, three three touchdowns too. I just think he's

(21:18):
a gamer. I like, I like what he's brought to
their team. I do think they're super banged up and
it's hard to come across the country. So it's a
game the Seahawks kind of like that game against the Ferdinators.
They should be disappointed if they lose it.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Well, another guy's frisk here is looking fairly frisky. Is
our our own ginger Sam. Sam Darnold is playing pretty
darn well at this point. I anybody I have to
take advantage of anybody that's a Redhead.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
That does the good thing.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
So, I mean, how are you feelings a rare well
that they do good things or that were just rare both.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
I don't know how to explained it. It was unnecessary.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Yeah, So, I mean he just he's playing well at
this point. I think there's still his room for growth
with this Seahawks offense. But he's you've got to be
happy with what you're seeing on him so far.

Speaker 7 (22:04):
Yeah, extremely, And I'll give you an I've wrote a
column today about, you know, the Vikings difficult decision the
quarterback that they had to make and how it's you know,
the part of the component of was that Donald's looking
so good. And so I had last season when Donald
was doing well with the Vikings, I had gotten together
with the coach and we watched the video of Donald
and he wasn't overly impressed. I mean, yes, they were

(22:26):
doing well, but there were Donald was just okay, just fine.
He was just mid. And we went and watched Donald
with Seattle this year and the coach was I couldn't
believe it. He's like, man, this guy's on another level.
He was like, this is kind of Tier one quarterbacking,
just the way he's the way he's placing the football

(22:47):
so intelligently. And you notice that in against some of
the zones where sometimes that the ball might even look
like it's behind the receiver, but he's really turning the
away from an on rushing defender. Right, That's what he's
really doing. It's kind of advanced quarterbacking. When you're placing
the ball in specific spots to either lead your receiver

(23:13):
for extra yards or maybe in a deep ball. You
don't stretch him out as much because you're trying to
increase the chances that he catches it, so you give
him a chance instead of making them sprint and dive
for it. Right, the little nuanced things like that. I
think we could see him against pressure too, like that
Pittsburgh game where he's just getting got a guy in

(23:34):
his lap, the guard gets thrown in the air and
he just sort of feathers it out there leading his
receiver for a touchdown. Right, there's just a lot of
really good.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Signs from him that looks real. It looks great. Yeah.
And if you think Minnesota looks foolish, I mean, how
a neep does Carolina look based off of this Mayfield
the Darnald matchup. I mean, I mean that organization just
cannot get it together. And it's it's like they're back

(24:05):
to square one. Bryce Young looks terrible again and Andy
Dalton looks better again. And yet are you gonna do
Are you gonna do the same thing again this year?
But you know, to try to fix the Carolina Panthers
I mean, they just they just can't fix it.

Speaker 7 (24:21):
It is, it is difficult. I don't know what they're
I don't know that's their problem, right, They got to
figure that out. But it is amazing that these two
guys were both there, and who knows, maybe at that
point those guys weren't as ready as they are now.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
You know.

Speaker 7 (24:33):
I think since then Sam Darnold got a year with
Kyle Shanahan, and you also get a year removed from expectations.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
You know.

Speaker 7 (24:40):
I don't know how that always affects everybody, but I
think there's something to that. I think for a Donald
or even a Daniel Jones, that New York New Jersey
market thing where you're the first round pick, I think
there's a wait to that, and then beyond that didn't
have the teams around them to support it. So I
think with Donald last year in Minnesota and this your sale,

(25:01):
they've got good defense.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
You know.

Speaker 7 (25:02):
I think that that takes something off of you a
little bit. And I think when you go in and
replace Tom Brady with no expectations in Tampa, everything you
do is kind of a bonus, right, So I think
some of that framing can help too, just psychologically.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Anything you're I mean, how concerned are you about the
Ravens at this point in time?

Speaker 7 (25:21):
Yeah, I'm very concerned because I think when you have
that many serious injuries, like I don't buy into the oh,
Lamar can't do it in a big game thing. I
don't think that's their problem. I mean, they're five highest
paid players by average salary are out. Okay, So when
you have that, they're basically got about one hundred and
thirty five million dollars of annual salary that's being replaced

(25:43):
this week by ten million dollars of annual salary. So
you can't overcome that. At a certain point, you just
can't do it. So that's my problem. My fear for
them is can they get healthy enough quickly enough on
the defensive.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Side of the ball.

Speaker 7 (25:57):
Let alone Lamar Jackson with the hamstring which could link
and he's an elite athlete who really compeach you with
his legs, is that going to be gone from him?

Speaker 3 (26:04):
A little bit? Sixty percent?

Speaker 7 (26:06):
Lamar may not be enough Lamar.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
I need more Lamar. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (26:11):
I get to gun it out against Josh Allen. And
now if the if the Chiefs are a little bit
healthier and are better on offense. You know that's gonna
be tough.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Is Cleveland Meghan the right choice now to go to
Gabriel or does it even matter? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (26:23):
I totally think you can't. Just if you've got a
bad team, you can't play with the forty year old quarterback, right,
I mean, you just can't do it. So I've really
they've bothered me the last couple of years because they
just stuck with Deshaun Watson because they had so much
money in him, and it was like everyone could see
it's not working. So hey, they tried a few games.
If it had been really hitting with Flacco and they

(26:45):
looked like, hey, you know what, they're gonna win a
down AFC North this year, then you could stick with Flacco.
But it doesn't look like that, so you drafted these
two hitter guys. Let's let let's let Gabriel have some
games and you know, maybe the coaching staff likes him.
I got the feeling in the draft the coaching staff
probably liked him, and then the organization sort of made
him take or later.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
That's just what it felt like to me. You know,
people here on the show that it's NFL insider Mike Sando,
who made it big in the football world. They're probably thinking, well,
in order to cover the entire National Football League, he
probably lives in a posh, floating bubble above Middle America.
Probably what they think. That seems reasonable, But you actually
live right down the street. So are you fired up

(27:26):
for some Mariners baseball this weekend? I love it? Now.

Speaker 7 (27:31):
The problem I've had is that through their root sports
ri ip thing, I can't I couldn't get them on
YouTube TV. That's correct, right, you don't have to worry
about that. It's going to be National Net. Now I
get to watch them.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (27:45):
Oh, what I'm saying is I haven't had.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
The ability to. You know, I've had NBA. I've had
such a football guy. You'd find out way if you cared, Mike.

Speaker 7 (27:55):
That's true, But I'm not gonna I'm not gonna work
for it that hard in my line of work. I've
catch them when I can. I love it. I love
to go to a game. But now I'm going to
actually turn it on. I'm totally gonna watch. I love it.
I've missed, you know, obviously missed the Sonics, and you
know we missed the Mariners being good.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
So Let's take it you would dig a twenty foot
trench to watch the Rams and forty nine ers today.

Speaker 7 (28:18):
That's true, That's true, very much true.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
I would. I mean, that's what I do.

Speaker 7 (28:25):
I can't say that I like baseball as much, but
I do love all right, Baseball to me is like golf.
Like if I'm playing golf, it means I have time.
If I'm watching baseball, it means I have time.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
And I love that. Well, you make some time this week,
and you make some absolutely all right, Thank you, Mike.
We'll talk to you next week. Thank you, Mike Sando
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Speaker 6 (29:00):
Nice horns and cans.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
We close out with one last thing next Sports Radio
ninety three point three KJRFM, the final segment of the
show here on this Thursday. And you know how we
do it. We go round the room, one last thing.
Whatever's on your mind? What do you got, buggy, Well, first,

(29:25):
let me turn that on.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
I am picking Guardians, Oh Red, Sox.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
And Cubs to win tonight. It's the opposite of what
I'm picking, is it really Yes, I think the Padres could,
but for some reason, I just feel like the Cubs might.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
They might be that little bit of a Cinderella. I mean,
at least through a round or possibly two. And if
they are, they would have to knock off a team
that I think they're they're not as good as. But
that Jamison Tallion or whatever, the guy that's starting for them,
he's he's got a little bit of a shovet gene
in him. I think we'll see you. Darvis is going

(30:06):
up against him. I mean, that's gonna be a really
interesting game.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
And obviously the other going up against the Potter bullpen.
They're gonna empty the vault and they've got like eight arms,
So that's what Darva's probably over three. I'm gonna bet
he's gonna go three.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Huh Man, we shall see. It's gonna be interesting, win
or go home.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Boys. It's great. I mean normally, baseball, I mean baseball
is a hard time getting to deciding games. They've had
a really difficult time with it, especially in this wild
card round. They can't get to those third and decisive games.
If they get one. They feel fortunate this year they
got three out of the four, so you know they're
loving it. And they get Yankees Red Sox at five

(30:49):
o'clock and prime time tonight. They might actually take a
few ratings away from football. Not a lot. Yeah, well
that part the.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Country will be a whole heck of a lot more
interesting West Coast and most football fans will be like, yeah,
maybe watch that on the second TV Monday.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
It starts at noon. By the way, the last two
days Guardians and Tigers have played at ten, but because
the Dodgers advanced, there are only three games today, so
they decided that they're gonna started a couple hours later.
So it's noon, two and five. Those are the start
times for the three games today. All right, Ashley, what's
your one last thing?

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Well, there's been a local sports tour happening.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
So at the Husky game on Saturday, Julio cal Emerson
and now I'm forgetting who else was there?

Speaker 3 (31:33):
JP? Was it?

Speaker 1 (31:34):
JP?

Speaker 3 (31:35):
I don't think it was last night the hockey game.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
No, Emerson, it was at the Husky game. Four of
them were there. Yeah, they gave cal the mic.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
He of course told the Huskies to go win the
f and thing, which everyone erupted and it was awesome.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Then the Kraken were also.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
There at the game, and so that was kind of fun,
just you know, everybody kind of doing it up with
all the local sports. And then last night the final
preseason game, seeing so many Mariners there, Josh Naylor wearing
his third jersey, Yeah, it was It was just cool.
And then I did notice though at one point they
were showing them on TV and Julio was trying to
get back to his seat and he tripped a little

(32:10):
bit over the guy and.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Next to him his foot and I almost had a panic.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
He kept his balance and everything, but I was like, oh,
just stay in your seat and make people bring to
trip him. Was no, this was another Marriner's his friend
or something.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, get your feet out of the way. Yeah,
come on, man, shrink your feet.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Did Josh Does Josh know that his uniform glows in
the dark?

Speaker 1 (32:33):
I hope he does.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
I hope he didn't. And then he got home He's
like I can't believe it.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
And then he or he was like, oh, I can't
see I need to turn on.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
A what my sleeves have lights on him?

Speaker 1 (32:43):
That would have been awesome.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
I'm going to read a book. That's great.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
Yeah, I mean he looks really happy in the photo
that Mike Benton posted, which makes me think he does
know the jersey clothes in the dark, because you don't
get that smile from a regular jersey.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Yeah. He's a really serious dude, So if he's smiling
from ear to ear, he knows that's right. He knows
my shirt closed in the dark and it doesn't. Oh yeah,
and wrote the zamboni, speaking of which that was actually
gonna be my one last thing. So I'm gonna be
down obviously Saturday and Sunday for a lot of the
day because I don't like getting caught in traffic, so
I go early when I go to a game like this,

(33:18):
especially a couple of days like this, so I'm gonna
have a little time to kick it around. And I
was thinking, because I'm not a jersey person, do I
buy a Mariner's jersey? And if I buy a Mariner's jersey,
who should I get?

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Answer?

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Based off of your knowing me, Well, you probably should
get a picture, probably, That's what I'm thinking.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
But it's cal Rawly is really the one you should get.
I mean, if you want to get a guy that
plays every five days, Go ahead and do that, or
you can get a guy that hits sixty homers. And
I was like, you know, basically controls all of those other.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
I just there's just gonna be so many.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Though it's a popular one.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
I'm leaning a little bit toward Logan.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Just really like you're also supporting twenty nine by wearing
a Logan jersey because they're besties.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah, what do you think? I mean, I'm not a
jersey guy. Should I buy a Mariner's jersey?

Speaker 4 (34:15):
My concern is if you haven't had one, now, is
now the right time to buy it?

Speaker 3 (34:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
I don't want it.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
I can't wear it to the game. No, I'd have
to just keep it in the sack.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Yeah exactly. Yeah, So I feel like, maybe you wait, wait, yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Make my own at home like I did when I
was a kid.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
Yeah, and who knows, maybe the Mariners will sign Nailor
and then you want to Nailer jersey.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
You never know.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Yeah, I couldn't buy one now.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
No, you can't uncertainty, Yeah, you gotta to wait till
they sign him.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Yeah, when I was a kid, I I made I
don't even know why. I don't even know why. Al Bumbry,
who was a center fielder for the Baltimore Orioles, and
I got out a black marker and I had a
white T shirt and we didn't really waste money in
my house. Yeah, but mom was not happy about this
marked up. Yeah, you didn't even tell Dad because she
knew Dad couldn't handle it. So yeah, I got in

(35:04):
trouble for mom, which I accepted. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right,
bumbery And the number one on the black marker on
the back of a white tea, did you wear it?

Speaker 1 (35:17):
It's not like you did it. And then you're like, well,
now this is ruine.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
I can't get back a white T shirt. You'd get
five of them, put all the starters put on. I
need to rip them off as they come up to
on the mound.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
Just get a whole pack of hands white T shirts.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
I wonder how Heavily would react if I got to
the press box with a handmade logan.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
Gilbert Idea, oh w was the fourth Mariner at the
Husky game.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
I could get a Woo jersey.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Yeah, get a Woo Yeah there you go.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
All right, we'll talk to you tomorrow at six o'clock,
MJ and Kid coming your way next. Sports Radio ninety
three point three kJ R f M. You can't miss
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