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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Well, during the postseason, we had Ryan Heally as a
special former Mariner analyst for us throughout the entire playoff,
and as we were signing off with them a week ago,
the people were like, no more, more more Healey. True, yeah,
And so we're like, well, let's give him more Healy then.
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So joining us here this morning on the program, former
Mariner Ryan Heally is back with us on Chuck and Buck.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Good morning, sir, Good morning man. Did you guys miss me?
We did, really did.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
You don't you like you right now?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I missed you.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
You're little jealous everything to see you with your full
head of hair and your perfect teeth and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
So the face made for radio, that's me.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Do you got anything playing for Halloween this weekend? I
don't even know. Do you have children? We haven't had
a personal private conversation, just been all marriners.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I got two young ones.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
I got a three year old little girl and then
I have a year and a half with little boy.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
My daughter got to pick the theme this year.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Anyone out there that knows what super Kitties is, that's
what my family's going to be dressed up as. And
if you don't know what that is. Tune in Friday
evening to see what my story on my Instagram looks like.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
By the way, funny story about that. I don't really
know what super kitties are, but my daughter. I have
a four year old daughter, so she knows what they are.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Now.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
She has a hard time pronouncing kitties. Okay, it's super
like too many teas. There's a tea in the beginning,
there's a tea, a couple of teas in the middle.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
So having a.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Hard time digitalizing what that word is. Fuck you.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I don't think I can say it. I don't know
you can spell it.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Suddenly I have a thinking about past girlfriends. I would
have gone as that for Halloween. It I love super.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
It's good that would have been.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I wish those would have been shown up a couple
of years ago. All right, well here we go. Ryan
Heally is with us here this morning, and yeah, it's
it's been a week and we we've had a week
to sort of get over at all.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
What do you what are the players.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Do you think going through a week later after such
a near miss in getting to the World series, It's.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Got to be a bag of mixed emotions, like obviously,
the loss is devastating. You could see the emotions in
their face post game after that Game seven. You gotta
imagine that coming home for the first week, it's it's
trying to just be where your two feet are. So
how do I get present my family? How do I
really enjoy the people that I haven't seen a long time,
How I get off my feet rest a little bit?
But I know that you probably have those those moments
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that pop up in your head, and it's probably very
specific for the individual for whatever they feel like they
could have done better. Yeah, you know, the managers feel
the same way. The gms s feel in the same way.
But everyone's processing right now and they're getting towards the
end of you know, the devastation of it, like it
ever goes away fully. But once they start preparing for
next year, they feel little bit better.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Yeah, obviously, And yet, I mean, the the baseball mentality
is one where you kind of have to have a
short memory. And yet when the season's over, it's not
like I have to have a special or short memory
because I got to move on.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I got another game the next day.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
So how long does something like this linger for the
dudes in the clubhouse versus obviously the way in which
they approach normal you know, scheduled baseball, where you got
to get out there and go grind the next day.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
I'd never been this far in the playoffs. My assumption
is that this will be felt in spring training next year.
I had some conversations with a few Mariners' minor leaguers
actually last last week, and the facility that I train
out of, and just the fact that these questions are
going to be asked all through spring training next year,
like these are not going away. In every decision they
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make this off season, with free agent acquisitions, trades they make,
it's going to be compared to the team that they
just had just because of how well they did.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, I want to get into some of that stuff,
but still just a couple more like recap questions. Dan Wilson,
Fangrafts just did a review of his managerial performance, and
I think they gave him an average of like a seed,
but they gave him an f an F in his
pitching decisions that he made during the course of the playoffs.
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I'm sure you're not being that hard on Dan Wilson,
but does the manager have a few things to improve
on by next year, assuming that we get back.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
To the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
If you ask them that question, I'm sure he would
say yes, just because he's an accountable leader and he
understands that the results of the decisions you make are
going to determine how everyone views them. And unfortunately, the
last decision he made of bringing Bizarre to win is
under an absolute microscope. And I listened to his post
pre Pros game press conferences about it, and you can
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hear the tone of his voice of that's been our
guy in pinches all year. It didn't work out this time,
and unfortunately he's gonna have to wear this on the
chin for the entire offseason and also spring training of.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Where was Brash? Where was Muonios? What were you thinking?
Speaker 5 (05:26):
And you got the POTO backing them up in the media,
which is always nice. The factor unified from kind of
the top down there. I can't give him an f though,
because I feel like the most the playoffs he did
a really good job navigating that bullpen, the high leverage arms,
the matchups. Maybe a little bit of a quick trigger
with some of his starting pitchers, but I understand why
you do that, because every game has high leverage, so
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you have to go to the guys that helped get
you there. And also the starting pitching wasn't what they
were in twenty four this whole season, so he was
gonna go those bullpen guys that were hot, and that's
what he did all the way throughout.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Well, I mean, you know, moving into you know, this
part of the of the year, obviously kind of licking
our wounds a little bit after getting ejected, but then
you kind of move quickly into Okay, what do they
need to do to make it that that get those
extra nine outs and get to a World Series next year?
For me, and I'm not gonna speak for anybody else.
I think Chuck and Ashly on the same page. You
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get Josh Naylor, and yet he's a Boris guy. I mean,
what do you think odds are that did did Naylor
enjoy his time in Seattle enough? Do you think that
he made a good enough connection with his teammates in
this town that he might come back? Or is this
gonna flat out be the highest bidders go and get him.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I don't think bor Or Naylor is a Boris?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Is he not?
Speaker 5 (06:43):
I don't know, he says, I s, so that maybe
gives us a little bit of benefit of doubt. But
I was just going through there's a great article on
the Athletic talking about the top fifty free agents out
there with the projected contracts for be or could be,
and then also thinking through the Mariners and what they've
done in the open market with free agents before. And
you know, they're projecting Josh Naylor to get a four year,
ninety million OAR contract and then Suarez a three year,
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seventy two million ART contract. I think one of those
two is really really manageable, and if I'm going to
prioritize one, I would selfishly go after Naylor because I
think the type of player and hitter he was from
what we're seeing be successful in playoffs is what we need.
And also, you know, he struggled the first half of
that Alds series. You guys remember that, We're like, where's Naylor,
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what's he doing?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Oh he had a kid? Oh wow, he rakes again.
Never mind, We're okay.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
That was the process of a Mariner stands with Josh Naylor,
and then he was our best hitter throughout the course
of the playoffs outside of the one and only a
cal rawly.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
So that's the guy that I'm putting at the top
of my list.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
If I can anchor down first base with his bat,
his back to bald skills, and also his power production,
I'd be really happy. But I'm curious how they navigate
the trademark because that's where the Mariners get really really busy,
whether it's offseason or in season.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, I don't I'm just trying to warn people right
off the bat, don't expect too many additions. I think
they're going to try to handle things in house where
they can, and that includes not just a decision between
Naylor and Suarez, because I think you're absolutely right to me,
that's a no brainer that you bring back Naylor. If
those are the two price tags, I think it's a
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bigger question to go Suarez or Polonco. And I actually
think Ryan, get your opinion on it, I think they
would prioritize Polonco over Swarez as well.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
I agree with that statement, especially with what he did
the bounce back year he had. I'm curious what the
price tag on him is going to be. This article
has him projected to sign a two year, twenty six
million dollar contract. I think that's doable for the Mariners.
So we can get both of those players back for
one hundred and fifteen to one twenty million dollars combined,
that would be amazing. I know that Ben Williamson was
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up as well. If you're talking about in house solutions
for third base, I'm not sure what your guys' opinions
on him are. I haven't seen him play enough, but
I know that the Mariners traded Tyler Locklear in that
Suarez deal to d Back, so they lost one of
their first base prospects, and Naylor needs to be a priority.
But they still have Williamson, and the power production doesn't
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get me really excited. But I was on Them Network
Radio last week and Ryan Spillboard was talking about how
great of a defender he was and how solid he
would be for that side of the diamond. But I
would need to see a little more power production from
my third base bat, especially when you're losing a replacing
with the guy just hit fifty.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Well, it's interesting you bring that up, because you know
the fickle fan like I want this, and then you
get this and you're like.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Well I want that.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I mean to Toronto Blue Jays, what did we hear
the entire series about Toronto Blue Jays, what a great
job they did one through nine putting the ball in play.
Ben Williamson doesn't hit for power, but he plays great
defense and he does put the ball in play. And
even though it's not doubles, triples and homers, I mean,
if he's hitting down in the order and he makes
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dirt cheap compared to the seventy two million doll figure
that you threw out there, I would almost guarantee it
Ryan that Ben Williamson's the third baseman. I'm not saying
Ben Williamson will be our third baseman, but if that's
the price tag on Gino Swarz, if he doesn't come
way down from that, I'll almost guarantee the Ben Williamson
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will be the third baseman next year over Gino.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I would second that as well.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
I think your point there was well articulated at the
Blue Jays formula. How many guys that they have that
were just lifer in the minor leagues and they got
up to the big leagues and they just did the
same thing that did in the minor leagues that wasn't sexy,
and now all of a sudden when you get nine
guys that do it really, really well, it's beautiful and Clement,
you're talking about Lucas like, you're talking about guys that
can just grind out of bats. And if that's what
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Williamson develops into a little bit more. But we saw
decent sample size. He almost had three hundred plate appearances
this year. Obviously, the on base percentage I think will
get better. The slug being three to ten for me
is doesn't get me super excited at least for a
quarner infield position. But I do know that power to
develops at different stages for each individual player, and at
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times I've seen guys develop the power even.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
More in the major leagues.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Why, I don't have an exact reason for you, but
if that's something that can progress, that'd be amazing. But
we also know the ballpark that he's playing in, and
if you're not a power hitter stepping into that ballpark,
it's really hard to develop into one.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yeah, it's not going to be easy. But at the
same time, he did after they send him down, after
they got Geno, he went down there actually and put
up I mean, I'm almost a nine hundred. I want
to say eight fifty ops. He'd been up pitting my
five homers and fifty a b's. I wouldn't be surprised
if he ends up developing into having more power, because
I get one and two hundred one bomb and two
hundred played appearances up in the big leagues. But he's
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not going to be a fifty home run guy. But
I mean it's zero chance. I just think that it's
fine to kind of have a guy that puts the
ball in play and grinds out AB's.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I think that is if I had.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
To narrow down to what I think one reason why
we didn't get to the World Series and the Toronto
Blue Jays did, I think they were better at that.
They were better at having tough abs.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Another thing that goes with it, I mean they've already
announced as an organization that will probably start next year
at the payroll we ended at, which is a bump forward.
That's I mean, because they added payroll at the trading deadline.
I think after their success that they had this year,
and they didn't do a lot last offseason to add
to this team, and I think they have fewer holes
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this offseason than they had last offseason. And then the
success that they had. I mean they also, I think
Ryan want to be in a position that hey, yeah,
if we went with Williamson and we start with him
at third base, that doesn't mean that if we got
to the trading deadline, we wouldn't recognize that as a
potential place that needs to be upgraded. And then we
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get aggressive again at the trading deadline like they have
three of the last four years. I think that's something
that Mariner fans should expect to have happened. Quite frankly,
if anybody's expecting some big, spendy off season.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
We're gonna add Tucker, and we're gonna add Bregman, and.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
We're gonna you know, we're gonna sign, we're gonna trade
for show.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Hey, if you're.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Expecting that big offseason, it's probably I think you're gonna
be left one team quite severely.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Frankly, I'm with you there.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
We have to look at the history of how the
Manners have orchestrated their their rosters, and they've now had
a proof of concept was successive it of winning the
AL West then making it to Game seven of the
CS series, like they they know their formula has validation.
I've heard Dipotos say this multiple times in his in
his conferences press conferences, is like, we trust our process.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
We think our process is really good.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
I do think that this is an opportunity to audit
everything within your system compared to what some of the
teams look like. And they're gonna be watching that World
Series closer than they would have years past with a
different set of lenses of the world's doubting this Blue
Jays team, Like they thought the Dodgers want to go
a four game sweep, and they were done zoning, and
they showed up in game one and did what they
did the entire alcs and I wasn't shocked, Like I
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just watched these guys seven games straight conduct professional bat
at the professional bet and then they faced a really
great picture and.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
They did the same thing.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
So how do we get guys in our lineup that
can have professional bats? And where can we allocate some funds?
But they're not going to go spend a couple hundred
million dollars in the free agent market. That's not how
they work. They trade for guys. They make sure they
fit there. They like Seattle, they like the they fit
the camaraderie round there, and then we extend them. That's
that's been their formula, So why would that change now?
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Yeah, heally, is there a philosophy when you were here
that was in this kind of the mode, the new
school mode that is a lot more swing and miss.
It's tougher to have grinder AB's against the velocity that
people are seeing.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
So it's there.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
There's been a time where we've seen more of the
home run, strikeout, walk, that's your outcomes. And and yet
I want to know if you had a sense of
what the organization's philosophy was, because I think a couple
of years ago they tried to make an adjustment like
we're not bringing to Oscar back, we're not bringing Gino
Suarez back because we want to put the ball in
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play more, Whereas maybe that sounded like that wasn't a
priority for us in years previous. It was that a
did this organization switch from something maybe back when you played,
or even up to the last couple of years, where
they're thinking more of going back to kind of some
mode school. We're gonna have some role player guys that
put the ball in play more often.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
You heard that last year when they made the coaching
changes and they brought Edgar Martinez back, and then they
brought the new hitting coach this year in and that
was the whole conversation, was the approach, the execution of
the approach, the consistency of it, understanding how we can
win in our ballpark. We're not going to lead the
league in home runs, even though they almost did, but
that wasn't their strategy going into it. I think they
just ended up having a few players that were having
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those type of years and they said send it. Let's
go of like, if this is what you want to do,
this what we can do, Let's let's win some ballgames.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Do with that.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
There was always a consistency of conversation when I was there, though,
of commanding the strike zone, and whether it was your
a swing swinger for the fences or it was a
contact play, move a runner over, it was still it
was still commanding the strike zone. It's very consistent on
the pitching side as well. They always talked about strike one.
There were specific counts that they really wanted us to
win on the offensive side. Obviously, the even counts, the
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one to one counts, the two to two, the three
two counts. They really wanted us to win those counts.
So if we had to gear down a little bit
in those to win them, so be it. But there's
also understanding your role like that. When I was there,
we had the Nelson Cruisers, we had the Robinson Canoes,
the Gene Seguraz, the Kyle Seegers. We had a lot
of guys that had different profiles of hit her and
they really wanted those guys to maximize what that opportunity was.
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Like it was Jean Jane the hit machine, and Robbie
Canoe is gonna spray doubles and then Nelson Cruz can
hit homers and Kyle Seager is going to clean up
whatever was less from there hitting doubles and homers. Like
that's just which is the formula, Like you knew who
you were as a player, and it was more so
dominate that profile instead of Now it seems like they're
trying to integrate more of a team wide approach. And
that's at least what we saw the Blue Jays do
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and do it to absolute perfection.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Super Kiddy himself, Ryan Healey is with us right here
on Chuck and Buck in the morning's Super Bowl excuse me,
super Bowl, I called the Sounders a hockey team earlier,
and now I'm to all in the World Series, the
super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
It's a Monday.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
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not a lot of people right now in Seattle, as
you might understand, Ryan wanted to talk about the World Series,
but let us use our last two minutes with you
here today to do just that. So far, series, even
at one game apiece, how long does this thing last?
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In your opinion, who comes out on top and why?
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I hope for seven games.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
That's since I really haven't been a Diehart fan of
a team in a long time, like the Mariners were
the first time I was in it heavy, I always
rooted for seven games.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I just love the pressure. I love it back and forth.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
So I wont seven games, and man if the Dodgers
pitching staff does what they've done, like Gossman's the best
I saw him throw, I feel like he didn't throw
that well in the CS series. I also, most life
i've seen in his fastball y'ama motive. He pitches like that.
I don't see them having it shot it really is
gonna come down to a lot of the key factors
that we saw in that CS series. Who is sures
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are gonna be? Who is bead are gonna be? Because
we know what the Dodgers starting pitching is gonna be.
But I don't think the Dodgers' offense is clicking on
all cylinders yet. So my prediction is Dodgers and seven.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Dodgers and seven.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, I don't even think it's gonna last seven.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Really, it's gonna go back to Canada. Oh you think
there's gonna win all three?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I think win all three in La just in this
you just want it to be over.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
I might, Yes, for the first time in my life,
I'm like, am I even gonna watch?
Speaker 3 (18:34):
And I did?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
I did watch Friday Night, and I did watch Saturday
and Toronto.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
You know, you're right.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
They did the things that they did to us and
against good pitching in the previous series. But I do
think the Dodgers pitching is healthy, and a healthy Dodgers
rotation is perhaps the most dangerous thing on the planet.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Yeah, they chip away too, they like manufactured or run
with two outs in game two where you're like, oh wow,
this is gonna be a cruising inning for them, and
all of a sudden it was a double single.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Oh wow, that's a that's one run.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
They just kind of did that to you a couple
of times where they score runs so quickly, like.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
How did that happen?
Speaker 5 (19:09):
So I see that happening, and then once they get
the big blast, I think that the Blue Jays need
to score early to quiet that Dodger crowd.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah all right, man, Well, great to catch up with you.
Thank you very much. We'll bug you again real soon.
But great to have you on here on this Monday.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
It's good seeing you guys again. Thanks for bringing back all.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Right Brian Heley.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Former Marena.
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Oh my gosh, is this ego guy's ego going to
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next thing you know, he's studying trivia.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
It's one of his hobbies, one of his passions.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Yeah, yeah, I get it too, because I'm mean, I
love me some trivia.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
We have a game every Thursday because of that, because
you force us into it. But Aaron Levine might actually
like it more than you do, Bucky, and tonight, tonight
we will have video evidence that he has reached the
mountaintop of trivia. Aaron Levine joins us right here on
Chuck and Buck in the Morning. Congratulations first and foremost.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
Hey, thanks, I'm waiting for Bucky to take the online
anytime tests next and I can't wait to see him
on the show.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Also, yeah, I wouldn't even know how to go about
signing up for it, let alone, would I ever qualify
for it? If they wanted to do a bloopers reel,
they would have me on the first episode.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
I mean it's all about It's all about casting sometimes, Bucky.
I think if you get past the first test and
have your zoom audition with them, they take one look
at that beard and they say that guy is on
the show.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
That's our guy. Right.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
They ask all about fishing, baseball, campfires.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Uh, whiskey. I got a chance.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
My children, My children know those categories.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
If you do, I'm in.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Aaron Levine's gonna be on Jeopardy tonight. So tonight He's
going to be on Jeopardy. How awesome is this for you?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Man?
Speaker 7 (21:41):
Well?
Speaker 6 (21:41):
To have an opportunity to go on a completely different
channel in Seattle, I mean, that's that's kind of crazy
beyond Como Fortnite.
Speaker 8 (21:48):
Uh No.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
I got to thank my bosses at Fox thirteen for
allowing me to do that. It's been a dream of
mine for a long time. But you mentioned it being
a hobby. I was a competitive golfer my entire life,
and I stopped playing golf about six seven years ago.
Competitive well, not competitively.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
I just wasn't very good at it.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
First of all, I had an eye condition also that
provided prevented me from being.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
On a golf course.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
So I needed to fill that competitive hole in some way,
shape or form, and who knew it was going to
be trivia, But believe it or not, when I play
in a trivia match, I get the same adrenaline rush
as I would before teeing off for a big round
of golf.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Well okay, I mean, yeah, that's crazy to me because
I would just be nervous as all get out that
I'm going to know no answers, not one single answer,
and yet give the people just a little bit of
an idea of we talk about these flash cards that
you'll bust out.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
You'll have I don't.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Know, a stack maybe five six inches tall that you
just go through as questions and answers.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
But how many flash cards do you have?
Speaker 7 (22:46):
I might have to send out a picture of this eventually.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
I have about twenty eight to thirty shoe boxes full
of index cards that I have written out over the
course of the last six and a half years. It
started with me just making cards for top fifty operas,
top fifty paintings, top fifty books of the nineteen hundreds
and whatever, and just to give myself a solid foundation,
and ever since then it's been making a card for anything.
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I don't know either, on Jeopardy or any of the
trivia matches that I'm in, and it has slowly grown
into this mountain of index cards. The funny part is,
I'm sort of this old school guy that has physical cards,
while everybody else in the trivia world has these apps
that they just kind of swipe on their phones, going
one after the other, so you never know if they're
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actually studying or not. I, on the other hand, have
these big boxes that I bring with me everywhere I go.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Everywhere he goes.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Aaron Levine is with us, of course, from Fox thirteen. Tonight,
he'll be on Como. He will be appearing on Jeopardy
at ten thirty this evening after Monday night football, and
so he makes his debut on Jeopardy. So is there
like a guide to getting there? I mean, do you
know what it takes to get on Jeopardy? Take us
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through that entire process of wanting to be on it,
and then how difficult it is to actually get on
the show.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
So it's funny, I was I'm competing in trivia regularly
against people who have been in trivia bowls, trivia quiz
bowl throughout their high school.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
Careers and stuff.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
I always wanted to be on Jeopardy growing up, but
watching it with my parents like as a teenager at
the dinner table every night.
Speaker 7 (24:22):
But then I stopped going. I didn't go to.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
Any trivia nights like at bars for the next you know,
through college.
Speaker 7 (24:28):
In the next fifteen years.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
When I turned thirty seven, I watched an episode of Jeopardy,
and I just set a long term goal of saying,
hey by the time I turned forty in three years,
I want to feel comfortable enough to take the online
Jeopardy test, and by the time I turned thirty nine,
I felt comfortable enough to do so. So it's been
sort of the six and a half year process of
starting to study. Took that first online Jeopardy test.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
You have to pass that one.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
Then they give you a second fifty question test that
is procter to make sure that you're not cheating, and
then if you pass that, then eventually hopefully you will
get an online audition. Once you have the audition with
the show, you are automatically placed into a contestant pool
for the next two years.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
So I was in the contestant pool for the.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
First time in July of twenty twenty one. I spent
thirty seven consecutive months in the contestant pool without getting
it called the show. It expired last August. I took
the test again, went through the whole process again, had
my zoom audition believe it or not, in spring training
in Arizona, and was back in the contestant pool since February.
Then got the call in the late July take the
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show last month and ever since then, it's been one
big blur with the Mariners in the playoffs, going to
Detroit and Toronto twice, and coincidentally, had they won Game seven,
my airgate tonight would have been the first day that
the Mariners ever hosted a World Series game. So that's
my one big regret. It would have been an all
time coincidence. But unfortunately, hopefully they'll get back there soon.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
All right, Well, I mean getting you do a lot
of these shows, or not shows necessarily, but you go
to events and kind of nerd out a little bit
doing a bunch of trivia stuff. You and I have
spoken about this many times before and after doing you know,
postgame shows are in press boxes and whatnot. So what
was the biggest eye opener of doing the biggest one?
(26:19):
Because this has got to be to some degree like
the like the super Bowl of trivia.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
Yeah, there's no question.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
And it's It's interesting though, because the World Quizzing Championships
in the trivia world are considered the top of the top,
and then you go to various events, like there's a
Sporkle Con. We were in Detroit and that was the
second time for playoffs. That was the second time I
was in Detroit because I had just been there a
year prior for this annual convention called Sporkle Con. And
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I've been at the Trivia Nationals in New.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
Orleans earlier this year.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
Jeopardy is by far the highest profile where you start
hearing from your former teachers from high school and people
you haven't talked to in twenty years. In the trivia
world itself, there are there are incredibly talented trivia players
that everybody knows about in that circle that consistently dominate
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those those realms. It's like when you're playing competitive golf
and you feel like you're a pretty decent golfer going
out and shooting US seventy three, seventy four, and know
once you get out there that you're going to get
lapped by some dude that shoots sixty three or sixty
four on a regular basis.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Make sure you ask everything in a question. Oh well, yeah,
get that done.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Crazy is a big deal, that's right.
Speaker 6 (27:37):
And the one thing, by the way, the one thing
people don't see when they're watching from home, is how
huge a factor the buzzer is. You're not allowed to
buzz in until a guy off stage activates the buzzer
when Ken Jennings is done reading the clue, and so
if you don't time it correctly or if you buzz
in too quickly, you're actually locked out for a quarter
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of a second, which could be the difference between you
getting in and you're not getting in. And psychologically that's
a big deal because imagine knowing six correct answers in
a row but not being able to get in on
the buzzer, but then getting in on the seventh and
getting it wrong. Then you're sitting here with six hundred
negative six hundred negative eight hundred dollars and you knew
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six out of the first seven answers, but you were
just never able to get in.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Wow, gotta have a buzzer game. It happened so fast.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
Yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Tough Altuve or somebody maybe for a pointer.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, exactly how to cheat Jeopardy. That would have been
a good tip for you. Okay, So I remember when
Cliff Claven and Cheers wanted to get on Jeopardy for
like years, and then he finally got on and he
showed up at the set and it was like Bucky
was joking about earlier.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
It was like beer Boston sports.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
It was like every category was like his ex areas
of expertise, and he dominated round one, and then in
round number two it normalized and he fell apart. So
what are your one or two areas of expertise that
you were hoping to get when you game on the scene.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
I was hoping for anything from history to geography. I
actually feel fairly good in I shouldn't say opera, but
like some of the classical arts types categories, there was
almost a sense of satisfaction at times where, and I
can say this if there was sports on the board
that I didn't necessarily gravitate towards sports, because I was
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playing against the stereotype of oh, this is a sports guy,
He's going to go straight to the sports questions. I
felt like I could handle other things. The one area
that I am very bad at is wordplay. I'm horrible
at anagrams. My mind thinks in a very linear fashion.
So if you say crossword clues A because it starts
with A, I'm fine. But if you say that A
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is the exact middle of the answer, my brain does
not work. So that was the area that I was
most concerned about going on the show.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
All right, all right, well you get you be successful
to us. We'll watch tonight, make sure that you know
we approve, and then you can step up to the
big leagues and play beat bucket way these weeks.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Good luck with that.
Speaker 7 (30:12):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to that for sure.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
I'll bet you are. I bet you are.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Where are you gonna have a party tonight?
Speaker 8 (30:20):
You have? Like?
Speaker 1 (30:20):
What do you got tonight? What do you got going?
How are you you got a viewing schedule?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
What are you doing?
Speaker 6 (30:25):
I've got an eight and a half year old that's
really excited to stay up till eleven o'clock to watch
this episode.
Speaker 7 (30:31):
I didn't exactly you know, it's not exactly in.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
My favor to have a ten thirty at night on
a weekday episode, but.
Speaker 7 (30:40):
It is what it is.
Speaker 6 (30:41):
Everybody gets to watch the World Series and then or
Monday Night football and then tune in later tonight at
t I'm thirty.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Okay, ten thirty.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
It is well, congratulations, We're excited for you. I mean
watching you go through your flash cards for years and
here you are right on the doorstep of seeing yourself
on Jeopardy.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
So awesome.
Speaker 7 (30:59):
Congrats man, Thanks a lot, guys, thanks so much for
the support.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
All Right, brother, Aaron Levine joining us right here on
the checkerbox is not gonna er. It's not gonna rate
well in Toronto. No, Yeah, he's a huge ratings tonight there.
But but that's exciting for him. That's awesome. You've been
hearing about this for a while now. I got a buddy,
one of my best friends in the world, and he's
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been wanting to get on.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Jeopardy as entire adult life.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
And it just hasn't happened for him. I'm sure he
hasn't pursued it as aggressively as what Aaron is.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Well, yeah, there's a lot that's gone into it.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
He showed me a couple of pictures like incognito, like
pictures about he couldn't quite he wasn't supposed to announce
that he was, but he was gonna wait until after
the Mariner's situation was done. But just getting on there.
The first thing, you're gonna laugh when you see how
he wrote his name.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that.
Speaker 8 (31:53):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
And he also knows the result, by the way. Yeah,
and can't tell anybody.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I know.
Speaker 9 (31:58):
We don't know if he's on more than one night.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah yeah, I don't know. We don't know if he won.
I don't know if he embarrassed himself, embarrassed Seattle.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
We don't know.
Speaker 9 (32:06):
I'm gonna doubt that well, so he can be crazy.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
One last thing coming your way next Sports Radio ninety
three point three KJRFM, my final segment here on this
Monday edition of Chuck and Buck in the Morning, or
one last thing we go round the room, Bucky, what
you got?
Speaker 3 (32:29):
I am completely torn.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
I didn't know for sure if I was going to
have it in me to watch the World Series, and
I watched on Friday. Saturday, I went to the Dustin
Nickerson Show, so I did not watch it. And I'm glad,
especially as dominant as it was with that pitching staff,
And yet I am finding myself when watching game one
torn between my recent disdain for Toronto since they knocked
(32:52):
us out and your lifeline, and my lifelong disdain for
what is the National League's evil empire, right, I mean
the dog So I just don't I my kids there
are both in this mode now, right. They watched some
sports with me and they typically So who are we
cheering for?
Speaker 3 (33:09):
I don't even know who I'm cheering for?
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Yeah, like a good series, I guess most most years,
though in my life I've not.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Cheered for anybody in the world series. Most of my life,
I've not cheered for anybody in the world. I just
want a good series. But I will say I wasn't
sure I was going to watch at all Friday when
I left work, but I did flip it on, mostly
drank Martiniz and listen to music. Did not have the
audio up, but I did watch both games. And so
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we're no, you don't be interested, No, none.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
So there's not party of this against like the idea
of the Dodgers, the way that they've constructed their team
and money that that's worrisome versus like, but I can't
really cheer for any team.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
George Springer on it Answers, Yeah, you're cheering for like
a sinkhold. Possibly, Yeah, I dirt, but like a I
aim to tie.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I mean, I'm watching in case show hey or somebody
else does something historic.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I suppose, but I have zero rooting interest either way.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
None.
Speaker 9 (34:11):
I haven't watched a second.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
See mine is like it's I don't have a rooting interest,
because that is implying I'm rooting for a team. I'm
just I find myself rooting against both teams the whole time,
Like I want.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
This guy to strike. I never ran. I can't want.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Yeah, you can't. It is a lose lose. It's not
a win win. It's a lose lose situation for me
right now, and I don't like it.
Speaker 9 (34:32):
Yeah, that's why I'm not watching any other We can't both.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Of them lose.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
That's what I'm stupid sports.
Speaker 9 (34:36):
Yeah, I found out.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
A lot that apparently it can't happen.
Speaker 9 (34:39):
So just not watching seeing myself the.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Trouble, Ashley, what your one last thing?
Speaker 10 (34:44):
Well?
Speaker 9 (34:44):
I bring sad news for everyone.
Speaker 10 (34:46):
Last night was the final sunset after six pm that
we will see until March. Next Sunday, the sun will
set at four forty nine pm after we change the clocks.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Wow, darkness, Hello darkness, my old friend. It was really
dark Saturday morning. It was like nine am and it
still looked like it was four eight.
Speaker 10 (35:09):
And really dark Saturday night too, because we were driving
home and just the pouring rain and driving.
Speaker 9 (35:15):
Wind and it was darkness.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
The valley was without power for the last couple of days.
We didn't we we had we still had it.
Speaker 10 (35:22):
We lost power on Saturday, but it came back early
Sunday morning.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Some of ours ours held on. I don't even know how,
because we almost always lose power, Like somebody could just go, hey,
our power will go out.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Hey talk how you do it?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Gone?
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, but it flickered a lot, a lot, a lot,
went out a couple.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Of times, but immediately came right back on.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
My biggest problem is I woke up, walked to the
grocery store Sunday morning, and like thirty five percent of
the leaves had blown off the trees.
Speaker 10 (35:55):
Oh yeah, yeah, I don't not even know Halloween yet
it is there.
Speaker 9 (36:00):
Yeah, they're gone.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Crap.
Speaker 9 (36:01):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
All right, I will close my one last thing here today.
Maybe I should save this for tomorrow. But you know,
all these head coaching firings that are taking place. There
are only if you're like char Clark Lee from Vanderbilt,
who I just watched on game day and it looks
like he's having the time of his life. Or Brent
(36:24):
Keys undefeated at Georgia Tech and yet has been a
Georgia Tech man his entire career, or a Kalani Sataki
who's killing it at BYU. I mean, they're all gonna
have ash crack at one. They probably might all three
of them. That might be three of the.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Hirings right there.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Penn State, LSU, Florida might be those three guys. But
considering what you have to do once you get there
for a little bit of a pay raise, when you're
being treated like a god on your campus right now,
do you really want that? Do you want a three
million dollars pay raise but a championship or else right
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away kind of situation? Or do you want to stay
where you're a god playing winning football, building a great program?
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Uh, and don't face the pressures of that.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
I would want to go try myself at the highest
I mean, by us not winning NASH Championship, it don't
regardless how good he does, and he's done great, and
yet I would have to think. No, I want better players,
I want more resources at my fingertips, and I'll take
the pressure that comes with it because I believe in
myself and my skills and my ability to build the program.
(37:40):
I would do it. And you're getting a pay raise.
Now it's the pressure. You don't do it. You don't
have much of a leash. That's the nature of Ultra.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah, but it is a little bit different because it
used to be I have to go there if I
want to win a national championship.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Now it's I could go there.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
But I do know that if I don't win in
the national championship, I'm probably getting fired.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (38:03):
I don't know if I will different all different. I
don't know if I would or not.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Oh, Clark Lee looked like he was living a good
life down there without a single hair on his head.
All right, we'll talk to you tomorrow at six am.
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