October 29, 2025 • 34 mins
CAM CLEELAND (Learfield Washington color analyst) joins the show despite the Husky bye week. How is he feeling about the Dawgs with 4 games left on the schedule? How does Cam feel about the current state of College football and head coaches? :30- Sadly, the day has come for the final ABCs of the 2026 Mariners season. - Y is for Year-in-Review: No one should feel satisfied with the 2025 Mariners, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t a successful season, just like Nathan Bishop said. - Z is for zzzzzzs as we get ready to hibernate for winter and await the offseason moves and gear up for 2026. :45- The Seahawks secondary will be reunited for the first time since the season started and it feels so good!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Your own for Husky Football, probably presented our weekly visit
with a voice of the Dogs, Cam Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Oh yeah, purfor Let's go run to you by Warrior
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Now here's chucking bug with a former Husky tight end
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
Let's ask Cam Cleveland one of our questions from Halloween
candy Factor fiction.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Okay, to get this started.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Let me ask you something here, Cam. Are the a
Reese's Peanut buttercups just three and a half point favorites
over all other Halloween candy or would.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
You take another candy and the points? What would you do?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I think that's fair. Yeah, it's completely fair. It's the
leader in the clubhouse for me at all times. It
trumps everything. No pun intended there, Okay, pun intended, but yes,
I think it holds a little.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Bit higher level. It does. It just does in all forms.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
What would be as close as contender Snickers? Twicks?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Ooh, I'm thinking of twigs. That's that's where I need
a little bit of crunch in there. If you're gonna
go twigs or kit Kat, it's right in that realm
stickers you can but it's the Peanuts, you know, it's
it's it's too close to reesis So you got to
flip it to something a little bit different, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
On a neutral field, Starbucks or Starbucks, Starburst or Nerds on.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
I'm gonna flip. I'm gonna flip the script and go
Mambas on you guys. You guys remember mamas. Oh yeah, take
you to a whole other level with mambas.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
They're excellent. But they're bigger than star Wars.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
They are bigger than Starbursts, and they came in a
whole like different, like it just looked like a rainbow
of perfection.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
It was beautiful.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
The only complaint about Mambas though, is that they come
in four little packs and so you have to open
all the packs to be able to alternate flavors. That's
my only complaining.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Have made it very creatable.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, yeah, sharing guy, You guys have a mama strategy.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I choose are really good too.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I love this right now.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
I choose the junior Varsity star Wars, the no now
and later.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeh'll tell you that to.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Go freshman, I go freshman. Freshman on the bench is
what that is?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, all right, Camp Cleveland is with us right here
on Chuck and Buck.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It must be a bye week.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
We spent four minutes talking about Halloween candy with our
Husky insider. Uh so here we arrive at six and
two in the bye week, four games to go a
favorable schedule until Oregon. I mean, boy, I mean there
have been high points of this season. There have been
a couple of low points this year, a lot of
different things to discuss, But I got to feel that
(02:50):
Husky fans should be feeling pretty good about where this
team is right now with a quarter of the season remaining.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Yeah, I'm I feel pretty good about sitting If you
told me at the end, or if you sat right
here and we said, okay, I'm gonna give you a
magic eight ball, and I'm going to say, all right,
you're gonna have a loss to Michigan and Ohio State
and number one team in the country, and what I think,
what is Michigan twenty two somewhere around in there at
twenty Yeah, I would I would feel like, all right,
you needed to win the three big games when you
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put it on your schedule. Certainly we're Ohio State, Michigan
in Oregon. I felt at that point you had to
win one of those games to really jump for a
shot to be in a Big Ten championship or a
shot at the College Football playoff, potentially that matchup at
the end of the season. I don't like to jump
ahead of games, but I will say I'm obsessed with
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the college football rankings at this point. I'm excited to
see them come out in November. The ape pole has
turned me into a chaotic goofball of the ups and
downs and the inconsistencies and the lax and the biases.
And I know, Chuck, you talked about how important it
was for preseedon rankings because it gets everybody excited, but
even you know, I spent just so much time looking
(04:02):
at how these rankings have come out and what Washington
needs to do. You just need to win each game.
You got to go on the road to Wisconsin and
you have maybe a UCLA team that came back to
life a little bit, but then now they're like, all right,
that was a murder that happened. It was tough, that
was a big, tough game. But then you just in
(04:23):
these moments this season, I know the perception of college
football and the rankings and how much it matters. Even
with twelve now it feels harder to get in than
it was with four, the way the biases are set up,
and I guess there's nothing left to do but just
win and win out.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Yeah, I mean, how do you explain I mean, the
offense at one point was you know, I mean, I
think statistically they were number one, and then maybe it
was before that Ohio State game. But Ohio State and
Michigan combined thirteen points against the two best teams they
played to date, and so the difference between that and
(05:02):
the fact that they put up thirty plus it feels
like against everybody else. How do you explain the discrepancy
between the offense rolling and then not being able to
do anything against a couple of good teams.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Well, I'll tell you. Two big factors returned this week,
and that makes a difference. Carver Willis and John Mills
returned a freshman and an absolute stalwart at left tackle,
which changed the game quite a bit. I mean, you
did lose Quinton Moore again in the second half of
the Michigan game. He is your edge blocker in the
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Michigan game, as your tight end, he is your best
one of the best blocking tight ends in the country
and does an excellent job on edge run. So that
changes your run game. So now you're down to Decker
to Graf who Decker is more of a move h
tight end. He's not a true Then you have to
bring in lineman last week and put him in number
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eighty and direct him to be able to make a
blocking But you had Carver and John Mills back last
week against a pretty good a pretty good defense, and
that was when you look at that defense and go, okay,
all right, here we go. We're gonna do the run game.
The ability to get Jonah Coleman those types of runs,
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they moved the pocket, they changed. It's hard to win
games on the road, no question. In a Big Ten
that that goes without saying, all right, but an Illinois
team that comes in as a ranked opponent, they played very,
very well. They beat usc They had some tough games too.
They were a very their quarterback was excellent. All in
those moments is when you were at full strength. This
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Husky team showed that in that first half versus Ohio
State and into the third quarter when they were at
full strength, Okay, they could they could handle those punches.
Same thing in the Michigan game. You could handle it
into the third court and then all of a sudden
it gets out of control. When injuries happened, and the
mistakes happened, the turnovers happened, the discipline of the of
(06:58):
a red shirt or of a true sophomore. Now that quarterback,
he's getting better. The youth is there. But when you
get a veteran lineman, okay, a young powerful lineman that's
a freshman on that left side, the continuity there and
you get Joeanah Coleman going, and then the defense gets
a turnover.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Get the takeaway, guys.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
That was what the difference was this last week is
you had two interceptions, should have had four. One taken
away on a drop another one was a pass interference call.
But the defense flipped the energy. So I could come
up with a lot of excuses, but you didn't win
those two big games. And now you got a shot
to win out and then you're gonna have to play
(07:36):
a very very good organ game and did at the
end of the season. But at least that game would
be at home. But I'm not gonna count any chickens.
Yet you got to go to Wisconsin first and get healthy.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
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Let's talk about the defense. We always talk about the
skill guys on the offensive side, but on the defensive side,
man to have to carr O Davis and Ephesians Price
sock together, both healthy at the exact same time.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I mean it is.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
It was previewed as these two could be a real
big problem for opponents, but we just haven't seen them
play enough together and healthy at the exact same time.
But now we're starting to see them get into a
little bit of a role. And how nightmarish can two
six foot four inch corners with skill and length, How
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much of a nightmare can they create for opposing quarterbacks?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
The rest of the.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Way, I think it does depend on the style of
offense that teams are going to play. And you're right,
I don't know if i'd look out on the edges
and go, oh, that guy looks like somebody we can attack.
He's just he arms are everywhere. They can outrun you too, jump,
physical to be able, ball skills, all of that.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
But even I mean.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Alex McLoughlin is one of the best safeties in the country.
Transfers from northern Arizona.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Mkelsteine is very active. That back half four guys Okay,
they are arguably one of the best in the country
because they are so good in open space. You can
depend on them. Amac can make tackles across the field
as aligned as a safety. You know, Mkelsteine fills the
box very good, good speed over the top. But then
you have those two corners that can lock it down.
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And Takario is the leader on this group. He is
He is as good as advertised. He is an NFL
player all day long. He could do whatever he wants.
I mean, at this point, if he wants to stay
or if he wants to go, that's really not up
to me. But when you watch him play, will teams decide.
And I've seen it this year as most teams have
(09:57):
decided to try to play the tight end game. The
shallow cross game, attacked linebackers and x Ray has gotten better. Okay,
Devin has gotten better. These the linebackers have had to
step up and make plays all of those moments that
you're watching this defense. The defensive line has gotten better.
They've been healthier. The key is availability, right, It's just
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you have to have your guys available. Coach Walters has
settled into what the Big ten and he knew this
conference was always about power and run games and low possessions,
tight ends and shallow crosses, vertical scenes. And that's what's
hurt us in big games is those intermediate routes. The
receivers hasn't taken us down really yet. I mean that's
I mean there's big guys against it. Certainly when you
(10:41):
played up in Maryland, they had really big wide receivers,
very big wide receivers too, and if their run game
controlled it all the way into the third quarter and
we made a comeback.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
But yes, this defense.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Is it has to get better in the red zone.
I will say it's like some of these red zone decisions.
Other than that, it's it's a team that has to
get healthy. It is a bye week couldn't come at
a more perfect time, especially to have to go all
the way into Camp Randall, which is not going to
be easy. And I don't care what their record is,
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it's not going to be easy at all.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
How are you feeling about the run defense? Is it
buttoned up to your liking at least for this weekend?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:20):
I you know, you have to defend the run. It
should be the priority weekend in week out. It's you
hear my hesitation?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
In a sense?
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Is that you It really depends on the style of
the runners. You know, when Michigan brings a backup running
back and they go all over the place and they
just run it into fish in and it comes down
to you guys. To me, it's can you contain a
quarterback that can run?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
You know? Designed runs?
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Versus Illinois? Those were those were I mean not only
just difficult to watch, but it was third down conversions
in those moments. And every quarterback we play in this conference,
every quarterback in the country. The name a quarterback that
doesn't run, It just stands there. Now, there's no such
thing anymore that guy is. There might be one or
(12:07):
two out there that win more in the pocket, but
every quarterback is active. There's too many RPO games now
to just throw that out and say, well, he's a
stand in the pocket guy and he's gonna deal it
down the field. No, I mean Julian's saying, Ohio State
is as good as anybody getting the ball out of
his hands so quickly. They just make it, make offense
really efficient. So I would say that the run game
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stopping the run game. I don't worry about giving up runs.
I worry about points in the red zone. And being
watching what Ohio State does so well is they don't
give up points in the red zone. They just don't
and they're very, very good at that, and that's more
important to me.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Cam Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
What it's right here on Chucking Bock on the mornings
here on this Wednesday, bye week for the Dogs.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Four weeks to go in the regular season.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
All right, So the big topic in college football this week,
and it really has come to a head. It's been
building up to this moment, all of the head coaching
firings that are taking place, all the money that's being
eaten by programs to try to find somebody that cannot
just be good at running a program, but you got
to be championship caliber at all moments of all time.
(13:16):
That seems to be the mentality right now that is
sweeping campuses across the country.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I don't believe it's sustainable.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I have our time thinking anybody could think that this
is sustainable. But we're not just talking about individual cases here.
This isn't just Penn State decided we just don't like
James Franklin anymore. This seems to be a giant wave,
an unexpected rogue wave that's hitting college football. And I
wanted to get your thoughts on it.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Man.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
There's a lot to unpacked there, guys, I mean, Sholley,
you guys do we could spend an hour, yeah, to
two hours just going over in detail the catastrophic changes
of college football. And I don't like firings. I don't
like coaches coming into houses and recruiting and saying be
loyal and be loyal to me, and I'll be loyal
(14:04):
to you. I don't like outside endeavors or people that
don't control. I mean, rumors are and I'm okay, rumors
are what rumors? Rumors are that Adidas paid out a
lot of James Franklin's contract and that was part of
thereby do you think ESPN controls the narrative at all.
(14:24):
This sec is the power outside of Really what it
is of college football is to teach young men how
to play football, and teach them how to be really
good leaders, and teach them how to be teammates and
what it is to have time management and discipline and
fight together and make lasting memories together.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Or is it all about a win?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
I mean, and that's really what the choice is. And
I've seen it. It's now minor league football, it's professional football.
It's called what it is because they're paid and compensated.
And the move to get into twelve has made the
pressure even more. The recruiting glasses are paid at twenty
five kids. Transfer portal sometimes take ten, so let's say
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you take fifteen, and now you have to outpay. And
now the transfer portal is now before January. Oh I'm sorry,
the first week in January. So now you have to
get it done. And now you have to fire your
coaches because the signing day has been moved up because
you can't lose your recruit So now you got to
fire them in season. You can't wait till the end
of the season because you're going to lose your whole
recruiting class. Now you have to pay out all these
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guaranteed money. So with all that being said, what's the
answer Something something's got to give and will what will
it end up being? I wish I had a bright
answer for it, But I still love college football. I
just think we're in a massive transition period that has
to come to a head, and it'll come to a
head with a commissioner, rules and all of that starts
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to see college football, in my mind, ends up being
its own entity away from college. Eventually it'll be under
the college umbrella, but I think it moves into its
own entity soon and everything else is still college football,
but there is a commissioner that controls and rules that, yeah,
take maybe it's sixty four, maybe it's eighty four, maybe
(16:10):
it's one hundred and thirty, that all go off on
their own and play real college football.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I think a lot of silly people with silly money
amounts of money are feeling their oats right now and
trying to control something that they enjoy doing, which is
watching college football.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
So it's going to go on to two ways. Either
those silly.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
People with the silly money are going to wise up
and say even bad investments are not fun. You know,
we just can't keep doing this or even sillier people
with even sillier money are going to get involved, and
then it's not gonna look like anything that we want
college football to look like.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
And that will be a sad day. But it's kind
of crazy.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
I mean, every time you think something's fixed and that
you've got your arms around one thing in this new
era of college football, something unexpected and starts occurring that
does not feel sustainable. And right now that's the firing,
the mass firings of college football coaches with years left
on their contracts.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Well, what do you tell? And that's I mean, and
I agree with that. I mean all this money when
I when you pay out this money to coaches and
Brian Kelly, I watched the Netflix show and if you
guys watched the SEC I never bought into Brian Kelly.
I never liked his personality. I knew that fit wouldn't
work there. Now, what do you tell these guys on Saturday?
Because Saturday never really changes, right? I mean that that
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comes down to those young guys getting four years a
chance to play on a national showcase. The NFL still
needs a free farm system. So something has to give
and something has to work. But Saturday, to me, is
still an unbelievable feeling. It's it's fans, It's it's it's tribal.
Don't ever lose that fans. Don't let the money and
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the tribal mindset ever change. And that's that's what I
still love, that will never go away. In college football,
can't idiots with with the large amount of money. Sure,
that's fine. I mean you want to, you want to
throw your money at the wall, It's not mine. Do
whatever you want. But I don't care how much you buy.
All right, you're still can't buy wins. You can't, or
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Oregon would have ten national championships by now, easy, all.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Right, last thirty last thirty seconds with you? Scary movies
or slasher movies or The Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown, what
are you gonna say?
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Oh, scary movies or slasher movie? Are we talking the
difference between Scream and like Psycho?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah? Like Psycho or Saw?
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Oh saws the thumbs I see. I'm not into the
Saw thing. I'm more of the psycho.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
I don't need the gore. I don't need the gore.
I would have like a good thriller.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Thriller. It sounds like a good time.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Just Cam Cleland's watching uh, you know, classic horror movies
and having a big giant bucket of peanut buttercups from Rees's.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
It sounds like a winner to me, right there.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
All right, man, thank you there. We appreciate it and
enjoy the bye week.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Appreciate it, guys.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Thanks all right, Cam Clearland, the Voice of the Dogs.
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Speaker 4 (19:38):
Buck?
Speaker 5 (19:38):
Yeah, sorry, it is, al right, it does make me sad. Yeah, sorry.
We could have done like one more round.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah I'm kidding. Yeah, that's been great.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
That would have meant we were still playing wit finish
it with World Series champions.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Or that the segment is so awesome Ashley that you
guys wouldn't let it in.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
That's another possibility, I suk, that's.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Not a possibility.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
No, for ABCS.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
Over to football, I do like the ABCS, but I
like them the way they are.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah, you like them When there's Mariner games going on, Rah,
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Shoe Otani was good last night, but maybe pushed a
little too far into the seventh inning, considering that he
got on Mays nine times the night before in an
eighteen inning game, and maybe just wasn't quite as perky
as he would be to be pitching for the longest
(20:54):
period of time he's pitched all season long, but Dave
Roberts tried to ride him into the seventh. The Blue
Jays scored a couple of runs and pulled away for
a six to two victory. But the Mariners are the
subject of the abcs of the MS, and so we
close out with a letter why and Z. Why is
year in Review? It's the year in review of the Mariners.
(21:16):
And I thought it was very grown up of Nathan
Bishop in our promo that's running right now, because he's
usually very negative, like the most negative person ever.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
But look, I think that that's it.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I mean, I don't think that anybody should feel satisfied
with the twenty twenty five Mariners. But that doesn't mean
it wasn't a successful season.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
It was. We won the division, went.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Further than any team has ever gone in Mariners history.
Just wipe away the history for a second. Making it
to Game seven of the ALCS and losing by a
swing means you had a damn good year. You get
to hang a banner next year. Granted it's just a
divisional banner, but you get to hang that you got
out from undernea. The Houston Astros. Finally he got a
(22:02):
buy in the first round of the playoffs. We had
memories for two straight weeks that are going to last
a lifetime. You'd better believe it was a successful year.
But also, no one should feel satisfied, certainly John Stanton,
Jerry Depoto, Justin Hollander, and no fan should feel satisfied
with twenty twenty five. It's about winning a championship and
until we do, we're not going to feel satisfied.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
That. That doesn't mean it wasn't a successful year.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Yeah, those two things can be they can both be
true at the same time. I mean, you know, I
think that if you look at the two teams that
are still in it, Toronto ends up making the World
Series for the first time in what thirty one years,
and so it's not like it's not some long standing
feet now they've been there before, they've won a couple
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of them, and so they don't have that same history,
which I think does propel you to a deeper depth
of depression when your season comes to a close. I
think it does because we haven't and we were so
close to getting to somewhere that we had never been before.
But that doesn't yeah to me. It seems it seems
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hollow if you just think, well, it's just a failure,
anything less. I mean, there'll be people that will text
in and say, well, that's just loser mentality. To be satisfied,
not satisfied, but to be able to deem it a
successful season even though you're disappointed that you didn't achieve
the ultimate that's a loser mentality. Okay, whatever you think.
But I'll just go ahead and say I don't have
(23:27):
a loser mentality. I'm not satisfied with getting one swing
from it or nine outs away from achieving at least
getting to the World Series. And then what we're watching
right now, the team that we took to the brink
is tied with the Dodgers, who spend a bajillion dollars
on their roster this season. So I mean, I'm not satisfied,
(23:48):
but I'm very content with where we are. I definitely
my mind goes to, boy, you gotta follow this up,
you know what I mean. I hope for damn well
that they don't get chintzy with what they're going to spend.
And yet, I mean, I just hope that they don't backslide.
I hope that they enjoyed the ride, and it sounds
(24:10):
like they did that they understand where they're at and
this is the window is now for sure open. It's
time to stay on top of your division. It's time
to make the playoffs again. It's time to learn from
your mistakes and hopefully button up some things that were
a little bit suspect.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
I think that's what a lot of people when they're saying, well,
it's not a successful season, or having that kind of
if we didn't win it, it's not a success. I
think the mentality of that is coming from the fact
that people so many people are worried about the offseason
and thinking, well, look at how long it took us
to do this since the last time, Like, look at
how long it's been since we won the division. But
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as you said earlier, it's not the same Mariners team,
and it's not run by the same people that were
running the team back in two thousand and one, Like
we just got to It's hard, I know, because we
have a long history of not succeeding at this. But
you've got to have faith that these guys are going
to get this done in the off season and that
we're going to have this similar team back out their
next time.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, we didn't make.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
It there with a star player who's thirty seven years
old exactly. I mean, we didn't make it there with
a pitching staff that's all going to inter free agency
in the offseason. We entered there with a young nucleus
that is the envy of most every franchise franchise in
Major League Baseball. I mean, even the Dodgers were a
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team that I always gave credit because they ran their
organization so well, and their farm system was always good,
and they always built through the farm system, and then yeah,
then they took their millions and they added to it.
This team just is all about buying everything. That's why
I just don't even respect the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Team right now.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
There's a lot different I think it's a different situation.
But in terms of the foundation built, I'm not sure
there's a better foundation in all of the sport than
what we have right here in Seattle and should be
able to profit off of for years to come.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
But yeah, you have to win it all.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
You got to certainly get to the World Series, and
you gotta win it all in order to eventually feel satisfied,
but that doesn't.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Mean that you can't have success along the way.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Finally, Ze is just for az as we get ready
to you know, snooze into the off season. It's a
long hibernating winter, but there will be activity.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
There will be stove turns out.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
I like the stove a lot, but yeah, we kind
of shut things off for a little while, but there
will be plenty of activity to sculpt.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
I just don't think you're going to see many additions.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
As we talked about in Reckless at Breakfast today, I
think the pursuit of Josh Naylor to be brought back.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
I mean, it's going to be up to him to
play ball with this.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
If he wants to be the highest paid he can
possibly be and take the highest offer he's not getting
it from Seattle. I could see a Josh Naylor because
we can't figure him out, he's so serious. I could
see him saying, this is a business decision. This is
the biggest business decision of my life. I've got to
get the best deal, and so that's what I'm going
to do. But I can also see Josh Naylor saying
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there are bigger things in life than just making the
most money, and I loved it here.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I'm going to stay here.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
I think there's something special going here, and I won't
take the highest offer. If he takes the highest offer,
he's not coming back next year because they're not going
to give it to him. But if they give him
a fair market offer, I think we'll have him back.
I think we could get Jorge Polanco back, and other
than that, I don't think we're going to add a lot.
So people might look at that as a snooze off season,
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but you might want.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
To prepare yourself for that.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
I think the dude wants to win first and foremost
and do so making as much money as he possibly can.
So I think his decision's going to be made by
I'm going to go where I think they're going to win.
I like the organization and how they sell themselves to me,
and they're willing to come up there and be at
least near the top offer, right. I don't see him
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as a guy that would just take I don't even know.
The Rockies were like, we just really love the way
you play, and you'll be a great clubhouse guy for us,
and he's like, all right, done, I'll just go be
a Rocky and suck for the rest of my career.
I don't the team will suck for the rest of
my career. I don't think you'd do that. At the
same time, I don't for some reason, I don't think
he's just going to be like, I really love the
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summer in Seattle. The weather's beautiful, fans were wonderful. That's enough.
You know, I'll leave ten million a year on the table.
I just don't think. Yeah, so it's imstic about.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
I think they'll get a little uncomfortable to bring him back,
but they're not going to get a lot of uncomfortable
to bring Yeah, yep, So we'll see balls in your court. Josh,
you know you're wanted back. I think you are going
to get a fair offer. But if you have to
have the most money, then you probably are going to
be playing for somebody else next season. All right, let
it be the Yankees coming up next on the program,
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Man and the Words of Peaches and Herb Reunited and
it feels so good.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
The Seahawks secondary is going to be back together for the.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
First time, and Forever Sports Radio ninety three point three
kJ r FM, let's.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Go tackle the crap out of some people.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Yeah, listening to the song, Ah, so good to be
back with you, buddy.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Let's go bloody. Some noses A hard time visualizing that,
picturing it perfectly. I picture that too, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Little candy hearts floating around their head. Not for each other,
not for one another, not that kind of thing. Violence, yes,
for violence.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
Just mutual love for lusting for violence.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Yes, it's been too long since we punished together.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I feel that.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
The holding hands and then listening to that song of
the part that's hard, Like I could see them like
looking at each other, maybe perfect button each other with
their helmet on.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
It's perfect.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Let's go make snop bubbles.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, let's make someone the pay.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I'm sorry. That's perfect tackle music. If you can get
fired up, listen to that to go tackle people. You're
you're already that something like that.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Like that, Like, guys, I feel left out and.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
Everyone's like you might not be on the team.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah, you're fast.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
They see how far you can run, fat fast, you
can run away. I don't think it's a foregone conclusion
with him, but I certainly am excited.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
I mean, this first time in a long time, this
team's got the first place at the bye week, and
I think there's an argument to be made the strength
of the team lies in the secondary, and you've been
without your stabilizing force and Julian Love. Uh, you've been
without your best player. Arguably maybe Jsen has taken that over,
but Devin Witherspoon, your best defensive player all around, Emon
(30:50):
warr he missed a lot of time and he since
he's gone gotten back and people think he's already a star.
He's not been a star next to Love and Witherspoon.
So to be in this position, to have two weeks off,
to get ready for a soft part of your schedule,
and to get to play on Sunday night, I mean,
I don't care if you're playing Peaches and.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Herb, you know, Mozart or the Hanson Brothers. If you
aren't fired up to.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Imbop some people in the face this Sunday night, then
you don't even belong in football.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
This is awesome.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Well, I think that this team, unlike last year, at
this point in the season, I think they knew who
the heck they are. I think that you know, we
heard last year how complex Mike McDonald's defense was, and
so there's a lot of thinking that goes on. There's
a lot of kind of cat and mouse of showing
one thing and doing another thing. And Hughes broke down
where when you're in that transition, while it can be
(31:46):
confusing in the quarterback, while you get back to where
you're supposed to go, there's a split second that you're
not where you're supposed to be. And I think that
you're better players physically and mentally, which Julian Love and
Devin Witherspoon I think both bring.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
That to the table.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
I think that can kind of make those gaps, if
you will, like while you're getting from where you're spot
where you were at as a as you know, kind
of eye candy, to where you're supposed to be. I
think that those are going to be smaller and so
even less opportunity for the opponent for the quarterback to
take advantage of it. So I kind of feel like
the strength of the team the defense, and yeah, I
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think there's a good argument that it's the back side
of the defense that is the strongest when they're healthy. Yeah,
if you get everybody back and they understand what it
is that they're he's been teaching them to do for
a year and a half now, Yeah, well, and already
pretty pretty tough. Defense, could be really really tough.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Move forward, you hit it right on the head.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
There it is eye candy, and all of them back
on the field will be eye candy.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I think they're already very close to being great defensively.
They're going to be great defensively. I mean, it's almost
like for the last few weeks, you know, when you're like,
I've never broken my wrist, but people that break their
they can't use their right hand, their dominant hand for
a while, and then they have to do everything left
handed for a while. We kind of had to do
everything left handed for a while. And now the left
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hand is actually functional and really good, and now the
right hands strong again, and they're like, man, I got
two hands.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
I'm ambidextra.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah, I'm good at using both. I mean, how much?
How much are you gonna unlock with this? So this
is just to me, this is just the most exciting
part of the entire season to this point, to be
in first place coming off of by getting ready for
the second half of the season, and you are going
to be getting your secondary together with Emon Warr, Witherspoon,
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and Love all playing on Sunday night against the Commanders
who might not even have Jaden Daniels.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Oh yeah, sign me up for some of that.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Yeah yeah, you want to talk about some mixed signals.
Sit there and just hold hands and sing Peaches at
herb right before the snap and see how confused Marcus
Mariota gets.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Watch the magic be confusing. All right?
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Coming up next, speaking of the Sea Hawks, we are
getting close to the NFL trade deadline. We're getting closer
to Halloween, so on the other side, we're going to
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three KJRFM,
Your own for Husky Football, probably presented our weekly visit
with a voice of the Dogs, Cam Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
Let's ask Cam Cleveland one of our questions from Halloween
candy Factor fiction.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Okay, to get this started.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Let me ask you something here, Cam. Are the a
Reese's Peanut buttercups just three and a half point favorites
over all other Halloween candy or would.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
You take another candy and the points? What would you do?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I think that's fair. Yeah, it's completely fair. It's the
leader in the clubhouse for me at all times. It
trumps everything. No pun intended there, Okay, pun intended, but yes,
I think it holds a little.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Bit higher level. It does. It just does in all forms.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
What would be as close as contender Snickers? Twicks?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Ooh, I'm thinking of twigs. That's that's where I need
a little bit of crunch in there. If you're gonna
go twigs or kit Kat, it's right in that realm
stickers you can but it's the Peanuts, you know, it's
it's it's too close to reesis So you got to
flip it to something a little bit different, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
On a neutral field, Starbucks or Starbucks, Starburst or Nerds on.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
I'm gonna flip. I'm gonna flip the script and go
Mambas on you guys. You guys remember mamas. Oh yeah, take
you to a whole other level with mambas.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
They're excellent. But they're bigger than star Wars.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
They are bigger than Starbursts, and they came in a
whole like different, like it just looked like a rainbow
of perfection.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
It was beautiful.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
The only complaint about Mambas though, is that they come
in four little packs and so you have to open
all the packs to be able to alternate flavors. That's
my only complaining.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Have made it very creatable.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, yeah, sharing guy, You guys have a mama strategy.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I choose are really good too.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I love this right now.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
I choose the junior Varsity star Wars, the no now
and later.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeh'll tell you that to.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Go freshman, I go freshman. Freshman on the bench is
what that is?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, all right, Camp Cleveland is with us right here
on Chuck and Buck.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It must be a bye week.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
We spent four minutes talking about Halloween candy with our
Husky insider. Uh so here we arrive at six and
two in the bye week, four games to go a
favorable schedule until Oregon. I mean, boy, I mean there
have been high points of this season. There have been
a couple of low points this year, a lot of
different things to discuss, But I got to feel that
(02:50):
Husky fans should be feeling pretty good about where this
team is right now with a quarter of the season remaining.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Yeah, I'm I feel pretty good about sitting If you
told me at the end, or if you sat right
here and we said, okay, I'm gonna give you a
magic eight ball, and I'm going to say, all right,
you're gonna have a loss to Michigan and Ohio State
and number one team in the country, and what I think,
what is Michigan twenty two somewhere around in there at
twenty Yeah, I would I would feel like, all right,
you needed to win the three big games when you
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put it on your schedule. Certainly we're Ohio State, Michigan
in Oregon. I felt at that point you had to
win one of those games to really jump for a
shot to be in a Big Ten championship or a
shot at the College Football playoff, potentially that matchup at
the end of the season. I don't like to jump
ahead of games, but I will say I'm obsessed with
(03:40):
the college football rankings at this point. I'm excited to
see them come out in November. The ape pole has
turned me into a chaotic goofball of the ups and
downs and the inconsistencies and the lax and the biases.
And I know, Chuck, you talked about how important it
was for preseedon rankings because it gets everybody excited, but
even you know, I spent just so much time looking
(04:02):
at how these rankings have come out and what Washington
needs to do. You just need to win each game.
You got to go on the road to Wisconsin and
you have maybe a UCLA team that came back to
life a little bit, but then now they're like, all right,
that was a murder that happened. It was tough, that
was a big, tough game. But then you just in
(04:23):
these moments this season, I know the perception of college
football and the rankings and how much it matters. Even
with twelve now it feels harder to get in than
it was with four, the way the biases are set up,
and I guess there's nothing left to do but just
win and win out.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Yeah, I mean, how do you explain I mean, the
offense at one point was you know, I mean, I
think statistically they were number one, and then maybe it
was before that Ohio State game. But Ohio State and
Michigan combined thirteen points against the two best teams they
played to date, and so the difference between that and
(05:02):
the fact that they put up thirty plus it feels
like against everybody else. How do you explain the discrepancy
between the offense rolling and then not being able to
do anything against a couple of good teams.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Well, I'll tell you. Two big factors returned this week,
and that makes a difference. Carver Willis and John Mills
returned a freshman and an absolute stalwart at left tackle,
which changed the game quite a bit. I mean, you
did lose Quinton Moore again in the second half of
the Michigan game. He is your edge blocker in the
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Michigan game, as your tight end, he is your best
one of the best blocking tight ends in the country
and does an excellent job on edge run. So that
changes your run game. So now you're down to Decker
to Graf who Decker is more of a move h
tight end. He's not a true Then you have to
bring in lineman last week and put him in number
(05:55):
eighty and direct him to be able to make a
blocking But you had Carver and John Mills back last
week against a pretty good a pretty good defense, and
that was when you look at that defense and go, okay,
all right, here we go. We're gonna do the run game.
The ability to get Jonah Coleman those types of runs,
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they moved the pocket, they changed. It's hard to win
games on the road, no question. In a Big Ten
that that goes without saying, all right, but an Illinois
team that comes in as a ranked opponent, they played very,
very well. They beat usc They had some tough games too.
They were a very their quarterback was excellent. All in
those moments is when you were at full strength. This
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Husky team showed that in that first half versus Ohio
State and into the third quarter when they were at
full strength, Okay, they could they could handle those punches.
Same thing in the Michigan game. You could handle it
into the third court and then all of a sudden
it gets out of control. When injuries happened, and the
mistakes happened, the turnovers happened, the discipline of the of
(06:58):
a red shirt or of a true sophomore. Now that quarterback,
he's getting better. The youth is there. But when you
get a veteran lineman, okay, a young powerful lineman that's
a freshman on that left side, the continuity there and
you get Joeanah Coleman going, and then the defense gets
a turnover.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Get the takeaway, guys.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
That was what the difference was this last week is
you had two interceptions, should have had four. One taken
away on a drop another one was a pass interference call.
But the defense flipped the energy. So I could come
up with a lot of excuses, but you didn't win
those two big games. And now you got a shot
to win out and then you're gonna have to play
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a very very good organ game and did at the
end of the season. But at least that game would
be at home. But I'm not gonna count any chickens.
Yet you got to go to Wisconsin first and get healthy.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
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Let's talk about the defense. We always talk about the
skill guys on the offensive side, but on the defensive side,
man to have to carr O Davis and Ephesians Price
sock together, both healthy at the exact same time.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I mean it is.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
It was previewed as these two could be a real
big problem for opponents, but we just haven't seen them
play enough together and healthy at the exact same time.
But now we're starting to see them get into a
little bit of a role. And how nightmarish can two
six foot four inch corners with skill and length, How
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much of a nightmare can they create for opposing quarterbacks?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
The rest of the.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Way, I think it does depend on the style of
offense that teams are going to play. And you're right,
I don't know if i'd look out on the edges
and go, oh, that guy looks like somebody we can attack.
He's just he arms are everywhere. They can outrun you too, jump,
physical to be able, ball skills, all of that.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
But even I mean.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Alex McLoughlin is one of the best safeties in the country.
Transfers from northern Arizona.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Mkelsteine is very active. That back half four guys Okay,
they are arguably one of the best in the country
because they are so good in open space. You can
depend on them. Amac can make tackles across the field
as aligned as a safety. You know, Mkelsteine fills the
box very good, good speed over the top. But then
you have those two corners that can lock it down.
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And Takario is the leader on this group. He is
He is as good as advertised. He is an NFL
player all day long. He could do whatever he wants.
I mean, at this point, if he wants to stay
or if he wants to go, that's really not up
to me. But when you watch him play, will teams decide.
And I've seen it this year as most teams have
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decided to try to play the tight end game. The
shallow cross game, attacked linebackers and x Ray has gotten better. Okay,
Devin has gotten better. These the linebackers have had to
step up and make plays all of those moments that
you're watching this defense. The defensive line has gotten better.
They've been healthier. The key is availability, right, It's just
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you have to have your guys available. Coach Walters has
settled into what the Big ten and he knew this
conference was always about power and run games and low possessions,
tight ends and shallow crosses, vertical scenes. And that's what's
hurt us in big games is those intermediate routes. The
receivers hasn't taken us down really yet. I mean that's
I mean there's big guys against it. Certainly when you
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played up in Maryland, they had really big wide receivers,
very big wide receivers too, and if their run game
controlled it all the way into the third quarter and
we made a comeback.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
But yes, this defense.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Is it has to get better in the red zone.
I will say it's like some of these red zone decisions.
Other than that, it's it's a team that has to
get healthy. It is a bye week couldn't come at
a more perfect time, especially to have to go all
the way into Camp Randall, which is not going to
be easy. And I don't care what their record is,
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it's not going to be easy at all.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
How are you feeling about the run defense? Is it
buttoned up to your liking at least for this weekend?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:20):
I you know, you have to defend the run. It
should be the priority weekend in week out. It's you
hear my hesitation?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
In a sense?
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Is that you It really depends on the style of
the runners. You know, when Michigan brings a backup running
back and they go all over the place and they
just run it into fish in and it comes down
to you guys. To me, it's can you contain a
quarterback that can run?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
You know? Designed runs?
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Versus Illinois? Those were those were I mean not only
just difficult to watch, but it was third down conversions
in those moments. And every quarterback we play in this conference,
every quarterback in the country. The name a quarterback that
doesn't run, It just stands there. Now, there's no such
thing anymore that guy is. There might be one or
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two out there that win more in the pocket, but
every quarterback is active. There's too many RPO games now
to just throw that out and say, well, he's a
stand in the pocket guy and he's gonna deal it
down the field. No, I mean Julian's saying, Ohio State
is as good as anybody getting the ball out of
his hands so quickly. They just make it, make offense
really efficient. So I would say that the run game
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stopping the run game. I don't worry about giving up runs.
I worry about points in the red zone. And being
watching what Ohio State does so well is they don't
give up points in the red zone. They just don't
and they're very, very good at that, and that's more
important to me.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Cam Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
What it's right here on Chucking Bock on the mornings
here on this Wednesday, bye week for the Dogs.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Four weeks to go in the regular season.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
All right, So the big topic in college football this week,
and it really has come to a head. It's been
building up to this moment, all of the head coaching
firings that are taking place, all the money that's being
eaten by programs to try to find somebody that cannot
just be good at running a program, but you got
to be championship caliber at all moments of all time.
(13:16):
That seems to be the mentality right now that is
sweeping campuses across the country.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I don't believe it's sustainable.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I have our time thinking anybody could think that this
is sustainable. But we're not just talking about individual cases here.
This isn't just Penn State decided we just don't like
James Franklin anymore. This seems to be a giant wave,
an unexpected rogue wave that's hitting college football. And I
wanted to get your thoughts on it.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Man.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
There's a lot to unpacked there, guys, I mean, Sholley,
you guys do we could spend an hour, yeah, to
two hours just going over in detail the catastrophic changes
of college football. And I don't like firings. I don't
like coaches coming into houses and recruiting and saying be
loyal and be loyal to me, and I'll be loyal
(14:04):
to you. I don't like outside endeavors or people that
don't control. I mean, rumors are and I'm okay, rumors
are what rumors? Rumors are that Adidas paid out a
lot of James Franklin's contract and that was part of
thereby do you think ESPN controls the narrative at all.
(14:24):
This sec is the power outside of Really what it
is of college football is to teach young men how
to play football, and teach them how to be really
good leaders, and teach them how to be teammates and
what it is to have time management and discipline and
fight together and make lasting memories together.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Or is it all about a win?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
I mean, and that's really what the choice is. And
I've seen it. It's now minor league football, it's professional football.
It's called what it is because they're paid and compensated.
And the move to get into twelve has made the
pressure even more. The recruiting glasses are paid at twenty
five kids. Transfer portal sometimes take ten, so let's say
(15:04):
you take fifteen, and now you have to outpay. And
now the transfer portal is now before January. Oh I'm sorry,
the first week in January. So now you have to
get it done. And now you have to fire your
coaches because the signing day has been moved up because
you can't lose your recruit So now you got to
fire them in season. You can't wait till the end
of the season because you're going to lose your whole
recruiting class. Now you have to pay out all these
(15:26):
guaranteed money. So with all that being said, what's the
answer Something something's got to give and will what will
it end up being? I wish I had a bright
answer for it, But I still love college football. I
just think we're in a massive transition period that has
to come to a head, and it'll come to a
head with a commissioner, rules and all of that starts
(15:48):
to see college football, in my mind, ends up being
its own entity away from college. Eventually it'll be under
the college umbrella, but I think it moves into its
own entity soon and everything else is still college football,
but there is a commissioner that controls and rules that, yeah,
take maybe it's sixty four, maybe it's eighty four, maybe
(16:10):
it's one hundred and thirty, that all go off on
their own and play real college football.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I think a lot of silly people with silly money
amounts of money are feeling their oats right now and
trying to control something that they enjoy doing, which is
watching college football.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
So it's going to go on to two ways. Either
those silly.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
People with the silly money are going to wise up
and say even bad investments are not fun. You know,
we just can't keep doing this or even sillier people
with even sillier money are going to get involved, and
then it's not gonna look like anything that we want
college football to look like.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
And that will be a sad day. But it's kind
of crazy.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
I mean, every time you think something's fixed and that
you've got your arms around one thing in this new
era of college football, something unexpected and starts occurring that
does not feel sustainable. And right now that's the firing,
the mass firings of college football coaches with years left
on their contracts.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Well, what do you tell? And that's I mean, and
I agree with that. I mean all this money when
I when you pay out this money to coaches and
Brian Kelly, I watched the Netflix show and if you
guys watched the SEC I never bought into Brian Kelly.
I never liked his personality. I knew that fit wouldn't
work there. Now, what do you tell these guys on Saturday?
Because Saturday never really changes, right? I mean that that
(17:30):
comes down to those young guys getting four years a
chance to play on a national showcase. The NFL still
needs a free farm system. So something has to give
and something has to work. But Saturday, to me, is
still an unbelievable feeling. It's it's fans, It's it's it's tribal.
Don't ever lose that fans. Don't let the money and
(17:53):
the tribal mindset ever change. And that's that's what I
still love, that will never go away. In college football,
can't idiots with with the large amount of money. Sure,
that's fine. I mean you want to, you want to
throw your money at the wall, It's not mine. Do
whatever you want. But I don't care how much you buy.
All right, you're still can't buy wins. You can't, or
(18:13):
Oregon would have ten national championships by now, easy, all.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Right, last thirty last thirty seconds with you? Scary movies
or slasher movies or The Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown, what
are you gonna say?
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Oh, scary movies or slasher movie? Are we talking the
difference between Scream and like Psycho?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah? Like Psycho or Saw?
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Oh saws the thumbs I see. I'm not into the
Saw thing. I'm more of the psycho.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
I don't need the gore. I don't need the gore.
I would have like a good thriller.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Thriller. It sounds like a good time.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Just Cam Cleland's watching uh, you know, classic horror movies
and having a big giant bucket of peanut buttercups from Rees's.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
It sounds like a winner to me, right there.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
All right, man, thank you there. We appreciate it and
enjoy the bye week.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Appreciate it, guys.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Thanks all right, Cam Clearland, the Voice of the Dogs.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
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(19:28):
Chuck and Buck. We will will close out the alphabet
and then say goodbye until twenty twenty six to our
daily Mariner segment. Here today, is I know that makes
you sad?
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Buck?
Speaker 5 (19:38):
Yeah, sorry, it is, al right, it does make me sad. Yeah, sorry.
We could have done like one more round.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah I'm kidding. Yeah, that's been great.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
That would have meant we were still playing wit finish
it with World Series champions.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Or that the segment is so awesome Ashley that you
guys wouldn't let it in.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
That's another possibility, I suk, that's.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Not a possibility.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
No, for ABCS.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
Over to football, I do like the ABCS, but I
like them the way they are.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah, you like them When there's Mariner games going on, Rah,
we do the ABC's.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
So we will wrap it up.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
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Shoe Otani was good last night, but maybe pushed a
little too far into the seventh inning, considering that he
got on Mays nine times the night before in an
eighteen inning game, and maybe just wasn't quite as perky
as he would be to be pitching for the longest
(20:54):
period of time he's pitched all season long, but Dave
Roberts tried to ride him into the seventh. The Blue
Jays scored a couple of runs and pulled away for
a six to two victory. But the Mariners are the
subject of the abcs of the MS, and so we
close out with a letter why and Z. Why is
year in Review? It's the year in review of the Mariners.
(21:16):
And I thought it was very grown up of Nathan
Bishop in our promo that's running right now, because he's
usually very negative, like the most negative person ever.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
But look, I think that that's it.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I mean, I don't think that anybody should feel satisfied
with the twenty twenty five Mariners. But that doesn't mean
it wasn't a successful season.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
It was. We won the division, went.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Further than any team has ever gone in Mariners history.
Just wipe away the history for a second. Making it
to Game seven of the ALCS and losing by a
swing means you had a damn good year. You get
to hang a banner next year. Granted it's just a
divisional banner, but you get to hang that you got
out from undernea. The Houston Astros. Finally he got a
(22:02):
buy in the first round of the playoffs. We had
memories for two straight weeks that are going to last
a lifetime. You'd better believe it was a successful year.
But also, no one should feel satisfied, certainly John Stanton,
Jerry Depoto, Justin Hollander, and no fan should feel satisfied
with twenty twenty five. It's about winning a championship and
until we do, we're not going to feel satisfied.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
That. That doesn't mean it wasn't a successful year.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Yeah, those two things can be they can both be
true at the same time. I mean, you know, I
think that if you look at the two teams that
are still in it, Toronto ends up making the World
Series for the first time in what thirty one years,
and so it's not like it's not some long standing
feet now they've been there before, they've won a couple
(22:46):
of them, and so they don't have that same history,
which I think does propel you to a deeper depth
of depression when your season comes to a close. I
think it does because we haven't and we were so
close to getting to somewhere that we had never been before.
But that doesn't yeah to me. It seems it seems
(23:07):
hollow if you just think, well, it's just a failure,
anything less. I mean, there'll be people that will text
in and say, well, that's just loser mentality. To be satisfied,
not satisfied, but to be able to deem it a
successful season even though you're disappointed that you didn't achieve
the ultimate that's a loser mentality. Okay, whatever you think.
But I'll just go ahead and say I don't have
(23:27):
a loser mentality. I'm not satisfied with getting one swing
from it or nine outs away from achieving at least
getting to the World Series. And then what we're watching
right now, the team that we took to the brink
is tied with the Dodgers, who spend a bajillion dollars
on their roster this season. So I mean, I'm not satisfied,
(23:48):
but I'm very content with where we are. I definitely
my mind goes to, boy, you gotta follow this up,
you know what I mean. I hope for damn well
that they don't get chintzy with what they're going to spend.
And yet, I mean, I just hope that they don't backslide.
I hope that they enjoyed the ride, and it sounds
(24:10):
like they did that they understand where they're at and
this is the window is now for sure open. It's
time to stay on top of your division. It's time
to make the playoffs again. It's time to learn from
your mistakes and hopefully button up some things that were
a little bit suspect.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
I think that's what a lot of people when they're saying, well,
it's not a successful season, or having that kind of
if we didn't win it, it's not a success. I
think the mentality of that is coming from the fact
that people so many people are worried about the offseason
and thinking, well, look at how long it took us
to do this since the last time, Like, look at
how long it's been since we won the division. But
(24:45):
as you said earlier, it's not the same Mariners team,
and it's not run by the same people that were
running the team back in two thousand and one, Like
we just got to It's hard, I know, because we
have a long history of not succeeding at this. But
you've got to have faith that these guys are going
to get this done in the off season and that
we're going to have this similar team back out their
next time.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, we didn't make.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
It there with a star player who's thirty seven years
old exactly. I mean, we didn't make it there with
a pitching staff that's all going to inter free agency
in the offseason. We entered there with a young nucleus
that is the envy of most every franchise franchise in
Major League Baseball. I mean, even the Dodgers were a
(25:27):
team that I always gave credit because they ran their
organization so well, and their farm system was always good,
and they always built through the farm system, and then yeah,
then they took their millions and they added to it.
This team just is all about buying everything. That's why
I just don't even respect the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Team right now.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
There's a lot different I think it's a different situation.
But in terms of the foundation built, I'm not sure
there's a better foundation in all of the sport than
what we have right here in Seattle and should be
able to profit off of for years to come.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
But yeah, you have to win it all.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
You got to certainly get to the World Series, and
you gotta win it all in order to eventually feel satisfied,
but that doesn't.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Mean that you can't have success along the way.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Finally, Ze is just for az as we get ready
to you know, snooze into the off season. It's a
long hibernating winter, but there will be activity.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
There will be stove turns out.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
I like the stove a lot, but yeah, we kind
of shut things off for a little while, but there
will be plenty of activity to sculpt.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
I just don't think you're going to see many additions.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
As we talked about in Reckless at Breakfast today, I
think the pursuit of Josh Naylor to be brought back.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
I mean, it's going to be up to him to
play ball with this.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
If he wants to be the highest paid he can
possibly be and take the highest offer he's not getting
it from Seattle. I could see a Josh Naylor because
we can't figure him out, he's so serious. I could
see him saying, this is a business decision. This is
the biggest business decision of my life. I've got to
get the best deal, and so that's what I'm going
to do. But I can also see Josh Naylor saying
(27:08):
there are bigger things in life than just making the
most money, and I loved it here.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I'm going to stay here.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
I think there's something special going here, and I won't
take the highest offer. If he takes the highest offer,
he's not coming back next year because they're not going
to give it to him. But if they give him
a fair market offer, I think we'll have him back.
I think we could get Jorge Polanco back, and other
than that, I don't think we're going to add a lot.
So people might look at that as a snooze off season,
(27:35):
but you might want.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
To prepare yourself for that.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
I think the dude wants to win first and foremost
and do so making as much money as he possibly can.
So I think his decision's going to be made by
I'm going to go where I think they're going to win.
I like the organization and how they sell themselves to me,
and they're willing to come up there and be at
least near the top offer, right. I don't see him
(28:00):
as a guy that would just take I don't even know.
The Rockies were like, we just really love the way
you play, and you'll be a great clubhouse guy for us,
and he's like, all right, done, I'll just go be
a Rocky and suck for the rest of my career.
I don't the team will suck for the rest of
my career. I don't think you'd do that. At the
same time, I don't for some reason, I don't think
he's just going to be like, I really love the
(28:22):
summer in Seattle. The weather's beautiful, fans were wonderful. That's enough.
You know, I'll leave ten million a year on the table.
I just don't think. Yeah, so it's imstic about.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
I think they'll get a little uncomfortable to bring him back,
but they're not going to get a lot of uncomfortable
to bring Yeah, yep, So we'll see balls in your court. Josh,
you know you're wanted back. I think you are going
to get a fair offer. But if you have to
have the most money, then you probably are going to
be playing for somebody else next season. All right, let
it be the Yankees coming up next on the program,
(28:56):
Man and the Words of Peaches and Herb Reunited and
it feels so good.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
The Seahawks secondary is going to be back together for the.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
First time, and Forever Sports Radio ninety three point three
kJ r FM, let's.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Go tackle the crap out of some people.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Yeah, listening to the song, Ah, so good to be
back with you, buddy.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Let's go bloody. Some noses A hard time visualizing that,
picturing it perfectly. I picture that too, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Little candy hearts floating around their head. Not for each other,
not for one another, not that kind of thing. Violence, yes,
for violence.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
Just mutual love for lusting for violence.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Yes, it's been too long since we punished together.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I feel that.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
The holding hands and then listening to that song of
the part that's hard, Like I could see them like
looking at each other, maybe perfect button each other with
their helmet on.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
It's perfect.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Let's go make snop bubbles.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, let's make someone the pay.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I'm sorry. That's perfect tackle music. If you can get
fired up, listen to that to go tackle people. You're
you're already that something like that.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Like that, Like, guys, I feel left out and.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
Everyone's like you might not be on the team.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah, you're fast.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
They see how far you can run, fat fast, you
can run away. I don't think it's a foregone conclusion
with him, but I certainly am excited.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
I mean, this first time in a long time, this
team's got the first place at the bye week, and
I think there's an argument to be made the strength
of the team lies in the secondary, and you've been
without your stabilizing force and Julian Love. Uh, you've been
without your best player. Arguably maybe Jsen has taken that over,
but Devin Witherspoon, your best defensive player all around, Emon
(30:50):
warr he missed a lot of time and he since
he's gone gotten back and people think he's already a star.
He's not been a star next to Love and Witherspoon.
So to be in this position, to have two weeks off,
to get ready for a soft part of your schedule,
and to get to play on Sunday night, I mean,
I don't care if you're playing Peaches and.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Herb, you know, Mozart or the Hanson Brothers. If you
aren't fired up to.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Imbop some people in the face this Sunday night, then
you don't even belong in football.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
This is awesome.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Well, I think that this team, unlike last year, at
this point in the season, I think they knew who
the heck they are. I think that you know, we
heard last year how complex Mike McDonald's defense was, and
so there's a lot of thinking that goes on. There's
a lot of kind of cat and mouse of showing
one thing and doing another thing. And Hughes broke down
where when you're in that transition, while it can be
(31:46):
confusing in the quarterback, while you get back to where
you're supposed to go, there's a split second that you're
not where you're supposed to be. And I think that
you're better players physically and mentally, which Julian Love and
Devin Witherspoon I think both bring.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
That to the table.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
I think that can kind of make those gaps, if
you will, like while you're getting from where you're spot
where you were at as a as you know, kind
of eye candy, to where you're supposed to be. I
think that those are going to be smaller and so
even less opportunity for the opponent for the quarterback to
take advantage of it. So I kind of feel like
the strength of the team the defense, and yeah, I
(32:23):
think there's a good argument that it's the back side
of the defense that is the strongest when they're healthy. Yeah,
if you get everybody back and they understand what it
is that they're he's been teaching them to do for
a year and a half now, Yeah, well, and already
pretty pretty tough. Defense, could be really really tough.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Move forward, you hit it right on the head.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
There it is eye candy, and all of them back
on the field will be eye candy.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I think they're already very close to being great defensively.
They're going to be great defensively. I mean, it's almost
like for the last few weeks, you know, when you're like,
I've never broken my wrist, but people that break their
they can't use their right hand, their dominant hand for
a while, and then they have to do everything left
handed for a while. We kind of had to do
everything left handed for a while. And now the left
(33:08):
hand is actually functional and really good, and now the
right hands strong again, and they're like, man, I got
two hands.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
I'm ambidextra.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah, I'm good at using both. I mean, how much?
How much are you gonna unlock with this? So this
is just to me, this is just the most exciting
part of the entire season to this point, to be
in first place coming off of by getting ready for
the second half of the season, and you are going
to be getting your secondary together with Emon Warr, Witherspoon,
(33:38):
and Love all playing on Sunday night against the Commanders
who might not even have Jaden Daniels.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Oh yeah, sign me up for some of that.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Yeah yeah, you want to talk about some mixed signals.
Sit there and just hold hands and sing Peaches at
herb right before the snap and see how confused Marcus
Mariota gets.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Watch the magic be confusing. All right?
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Coming up next, speaking of the Sea Hawks, we are
getting close to the NFL trade deadline. We're getting closer
to Halloween, so on the other side, we're going to
go trade or treating. On Sports Radio ninety three point
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