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October 31, 2025 36 mins
Happy Halloween! We decided to dress down to celebrate the holiday as a show and most of completed the task as asked… one of us decided to complicate things. The Seahawks offensive line has long been an issue, but they’ve quietly been performing well and it wasn’t just one thing that caused the change. Adding Klint Kubiak’s system and Grey Zabel helped and so did a QB that doesn’t hold onto the ball too long in Sam Darnold. :30- There’s an interesting hiring trend going on in major league baseball… what’s with all the first-time managers? :45- The Seahawks face the Commanders on Sunday and it’s time for our No Cliché Keys to a Seahawks victory!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Of our relentless coverage of the NFL.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
What Your home for?

Speaker 1 (00:05):
The twelfth Man presents Football Friday.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
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Football Friday is on with Chuck and Button on Sports
Radio ninety three point three kJ R FM.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Happy Friday to you all, Good morning, and welcome into
the radio program. It is Chuck them back in the
Morning's here on a Tito's Handmade Vodka Football Friday. That's right,
Football Friday sponsored by Tito's Handmade Vodka, proud sponsor of
the Seahawks, distilled and bottled by Fifth Generation Ain't Austin,
Texas forty percent alcohol by volume.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Saber responsibly. Even on this blessed, blessed day, not only
is it Friday, it's Halloween Friday. Ashley grew a mustache.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Over cal Rawly Morning Show producer in an atmospheric river.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Wow, look at that. You really went all out.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
I really did?

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Blown, yes, close the second five I was like, I
can't smile it all.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
And here I thought that the game plan was to
dress down. You did both.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
I did both. Well, I told you guys, I was going.
I was inspired by the idea of being someone being
someone Okay, good stop, the plan of being cal Rawly
as a morning show producer dressing down in an atmosphere
river Wow, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Might have to stand up. I don't know if I'm
getting enough.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
Of the worst nugeen.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Oh oh, she.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
Looks like a Thursday night football player. Cal Rawly dressed
is a Thursday night color rush Seahawks.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
It's a multi You've just covered every part of the
spectrum here.

Speaker 6 (02:52):
How do you people grow these? It's although I do
think I have it up my nose basically.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, it's real. Well, yours is artificial attached. Usually mustaches
are just part of a person's face.

Speaker 6 (03:04):
I think you do have a valid point there.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, yeah, so there's that.

Speaker 6 (03:07):
There is this So I had it too high up
on my mouth.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
If I went from never having one to having the
one you have to it'd be uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah overnight, Yeah, it's different. Leasers didn't itch while it
was growing in, that's true.

Speaker 6 (03:19):
I didn't have to go through all the growing pains
of it.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Well, good morning everybody, and happy Halloween. Yes, as a
show back on Monday, PS thought it would be such
a great idea for us to wear costumes and then
put out photos. He's always trying to get us to
do social media, and Bucky and I are always like no, yeah, yeah,
And so he's like, man, you got to dress up.

(03:44):
I mean, Halloween's on a football Friday, and we were
just tossing it around, uh, you know, kind of a
brainstorming session, and I just threw out there like, well,
while everybody else is dressing up, maybe we should dress
down for Halloween. And I think maybe this is something
that could catch on that the kids their Halloween is
dress up. You know, they have so much fun doing that.

(04:07):
Meanwhile the adults have to spend so much energy trying
to come up with the perfect costume for the kids
that they're exhausted to come up with their own costume.
And so, uh, maybe this is something that we'll catch on.
We just decided we were gonna dress down. We're just
gonna wear pajamas to work here today, and so we're

(04:28):
doing it. We're all in our onesies here on Halloween Friday,
so here we go.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
Great idea ps because we're on radio.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Yeah, but I will say thanks for the suggestion of
dressing down because it was real easy to figure out
what to wear it at. Yeah, and I'm I'm actually
warmer right now than I usually am.

Speaker 5 (04:47):
I'm not going to be in this very long. This
thing is hotter than don't agree.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, I'm gonna have to watch a look at Bucky's
bear chest apparently zipping up.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
Pretty soon, it'll be off almost sitting here with no shirt,
I have an out.

Speaker 6 (05:09):
I have a tank top. I could take mine off.
You could wear my tank top.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
You brought a pair of shorts and shirt, my normal
attire that I wear. Yeah, this one has footies too,
But if I put those on, then I even then
I even sweat more.

Speaker 6 (05:22):
It does look like it's a very like a valure.
It's very Yeah, it's like it's almost like a blanket.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, snuggy. Yeah. And he's got like monogram initials over
there left breast.

Speaker 6 (05:35):
Pretty fancy.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (05:37):
This was my first endorsement here at I heart back
for me. Yeah. If I had to say on the
ad that they're so comfortable, they are very comfortable.

Speaker 6 (05:48):
I think I remember hearing you do those, but they're
just so hot.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, the onesie is warm. I think that's kind of
the idea there. You don't remember when were anything else,
but mine was more like yours. Yours is just like
looks like T shirt material, not this fluffy blanket. Yeah,
yours looks thicker. Yeah, and mine's warm enough.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
Yeah, that's more like kids they have like their fluffy Yeah,
that's like what kids.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Well, I'll tell you this. I think Bucky was feeling
less than himself wearing this this morning because I always
come in and we always and it's strategic, like our
hello is just very brief. Yeh. I've told Bucky when
we first started, I'm like, I don't like to talk
too much in the morning because I don't want to
give any good stuff away. I want our initial reactions

(06:31):
and conversation to be on the air, no matter what
we're wearing, or what we're doing, or how our lives
are going, whatever the case may be. Just a little
thing that radio people have done for a long time,
especially mourning people, and so usually it's just a hey,
what's up. What's up? Today? Bucky's what's up was a
lot deeper than normal what's up? Yeah, it was a

(06:52):
lot deeper. Yeah, yeah, oh it was. It was subconscious.
Yeah yeah, like I'm feeling a little bit like a
kid right now, and so I think I think it
was more so.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
I got this eight years ago, put it on one time,
started to melt it, then went in the closet and
hasn't been touched since. And then I put it on today.
I'm like, okay, but I knew it was warm. I
didn't realize how warm it is. I forgot over the
last eight years. So I think what you heard was,
oh man, this is hot. What's up? This is I'm

(07:27):
smoldering in this thing right now.

Speaker 6 (07:29):
Excellent.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
The only segment. So if anybody wants to take a picture,
we're going to have.

Speaker 6 (07:34):
To take a picture where we're going to get in trouble.
And we did this for nothing.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Not for nothing. Actually we're starting a new trend.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
No I like that, but I'm saying, we did it
what the boss told us to do for nothing.

Speaker 6 (07:47):
You have to at least get credit for doing what
he told us.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
He's not even in town right now, so we can't
even hear this segment.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
So yeah, better be dressed up or down.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
We better provide some pictorial evidence that we did something
as a show for Halloween Friday. Before I get naked,
before Bucky strips down right, I could.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
Be a strip. I could be a guy in a
onesie that strips strip.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
A gram that'll that'll go over well. A households tonight.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
As you're on radio find for everybody except for YouTube
on our radio program.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
I think it's a great idea. You just take like
we weren't, weren't worm kind of music with you as
you're taking the kids trigger.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
Shoulder, Actually you want to shoot one of these bad boys.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Another thing, little sidebar that is kind of funny is
for some reason, as Bucky was like unzipping his thing,
because Buggy doesn't have a belly button. Oh, I was
thinking for some reason, I'm like, wait a minute, you
don't have nipples.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
What are your showing?

Speaker 2 (08:46):
And then I remember that, Oh no, it was the
belly button. Yeah, a little nipples. I am sans belly button.
But for a second, across my mind like why are
you show I don't want to see your nipples chest
That would look weird, looks normal?

Speaker 5 (09:05):
No nips?

Speaker 6 (09:07):
What if you didn't have either of them?

Speaker 2 (09:10):
We would think that Buggy's actually just an android, not
really ab been fooling us for years, which does transition
neatly into today's first sports topic of the day. Because
it is Halloween, the Seahawks will play on Sunday. It's
not like they're playing tonight. But I think they've been
a part of a little bit of a masquerade so

(09:32):
far this season. I think that we've gone half a
football season through the bye week, and we've talked about
all sorts of things with this football team. Sam Darnold
having a great year, JSN has probably broken through to
the top tier of wide receivers in the National Football League.
Mike McDonald's defense gets praise every week that doesn't include Tampa.

(09:55):
Uh So we we've covered a lot of different angles,
and for whatever, I think that this maybe other shows
have been doing this thoroughly. I think this show's may
be falling a little bit short. Even with our analysts
in talking about how infrequently Sam Donald has been sacked
this year, we are currently I mean, you could argue

(10:21):
well fewest sacks in the National Football League. Sam's Denver.
Denver's the only team. Boonex is the only quarterback that's
been sacked less than Sam Darnald so far this season,
so nine times. That's it. Sam Donald's been sacked nine times.
Consider how much it has been discussed in the last

(10:42):
decade plus the Sea Hawk offensive line issues and how
terrible this offensive line was, and if you'd give Geno
Smith more time than need look, look the results that
you could potentially have. Russell's just running for his life
at all times. And I'm not here to discredit that criticism.

(11:05):
Over the last ten years, there was something to it.
The offensive line wasn't great, But I think what you're
seeing this year is it really does And I'm not
saying all of it, but there's a large percentage of
sack totals comes down to whether or not the quarterback
knows how to get rid of the football and how

(11:26):
quickly to get rid of the football and on time
to get rid of the football, And even if the
play's not there, I'm still going to get rid of
the football because I'm not going to take a sack. Look,
I think the offensive line is improved. I think grays
Abel's having a really good year and has been a
terrific addition to this team. But you really think Gray's
Abel just adding a rookie guard out of some tiny

(11:50):
college has been the reason why the Seahawks don't get
sacked anymore. We don't have sacks anymore. No, it's part
of it. I mean he's obviously contributed to that. The
system with Clint Kubiak. Yeah, that's a significant portion of
this equation as well. I think he is coaching to
get rid of the football quicker and certainly something Greg

(12:13):
talks about all the time, the establishment of the running game,
no matter if it's working. That's contributed certainly. But I
think the main issue is and has been Gino and
Russ not getting rid of the football. That's why he
had fifty sacks last year. I mean maybe, yeah, the
offensive line wasn't as good and the offensive system maybe

(12:36):
not as sharp under Ryan Grubb, but Gino Smith's still
getting sacked. I mean he has twice the number of
sacks that Sam Darnold has this year with the Las
Vegas Raiders. So what's the common denominator there. It's that
we got rid of a quarterback that holds onto the
ball too long, and he didn't hold on the ball

(12:57):
as long as Russell did. Yeah, right, I mean Russell's
abilities overcame some of that, especially early in his career,
but he was terrible at getting rid of the football,
and Gino wasn't much better. We've got a quarterback that's
getting rid of the football for goodness sake, and so yes,
offensive lines improved. Yes, Clint Kubiak system I think does

(13:18):
help a quarterback not get sacked getting rid of the football.
But mostly it is Sam Darnold being aware enough of
the pass rush and understanding how important it is to
get rid of the football. That's why we're not getting sacked, right.

Speaker 5 (13:31):
I think that the I mean, I'm with you that
I think that is the predominant reason as to why
you're sitting as well as you are, And that's statistical
category is because of the quarterback getting rid of the balls,
not waiting so long to either decide there is nothing
and you dirt it, or you throw it out of bounds,
or you just throw it near somebody but away from

(13:52):
trouble because he's covered. I think that's it. I do
think a gray is able. You adding one guard because
I think the other guard is still kind of a
weakness for you. But you can help one week spot
if you just figure just say that more often than not,
if there's somebody a decent pass rusher in the middle,
you can send your center over to help one of
these guys if you don't have to send it to

(14:14):
one side, and you can more often send it the other.
Plus Abe Lucas being back, there's help. I think that
the line is better, but I don't think the drastic
drop from one of the worst offensive lines, which is
what they've been called for years, because yeah, Russell Wilson
was always wanting to make some spectacular play, make something
out of nothing, when sometimes the best play is just

(14:35):
take nothing, and then it's still second and ten, not
second and twenty two. And same thing.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
With well take four yards, take a profit. Yeah, you
don't go broke taking a profit.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
Yeah, So I think that. I mean, I'm with you.
I think the main reason why they're looking good in
that situation isn't because the offensive line is some drastically
different thing, right, I mean, you essentially have eighty percent
of it was here last year, you have one new thing.
Did they just get from one of the worst to
now one of the best offensive lines?

Speaker 4 (15:02):
No?

Speaker 5 (15:03):
Because of Gray's ab Yeah, No, I think you got better.
I think he's able makes it better. I think that
having only one spot that maybe you would deem as
a weakness, and maybe it's one and a half. If
you don't think Jalen Sundell's some super world beating center, Okay, fine,
you still have those two together that can say, hey,
it's not like they're usually sending somebody at every offensive lineman.
So it's kind of a team thing. But most importantly

(15:25):
is the quarterback making good decisions and saying I'm not
going to put myself in the situation where not only
do you get sacked, but then you got the strip
sacks and you've got all kinds of just bad things
happen if you hold onto the ball too long.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
It is interesting because it seems like, yeah, with the
offensive line with Sam Darnold, everything that they're doing is
just solid. But isn't When you're watching the game, you're
not thinking it's spectacular. Right, So nobody has gone from
the preseason thinking like, oh, here we go again. You know,
we have we really addressed our offensive line issues. It
seems it's what six years or longer that we've had

(15:57):
all these problems, and so you're watching every game, I'm thinking, well,
this is a solid, like we're playing. We're a solid team.
There's nothing that has stood out to seem exceptional. I
know you can't take me seriously and so that, but
that's what I think is so interesting because then to
hear you say the stats on the sacks, I mean,
you never watch the game thinking like, man, just another

(16:20):
dynamite performance by the offensive line, and Sam Donald, it's
just another solid performance.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Well, it's just dramatically improved, yes in that area, and yes,
I'm going to give the offensive line some credit, and
I'm going to give Clint Kubiak some credit, but I
think most of the credit goes to Sam Donald. It's
just like stealing bases in Major League baseball. Now, you
can't just look at cal Rawley's throw them out percentage

(16:48):
because so much of that has to do with how
close the pitcher, how good or bad the pitcher is
at holding on runners. I mean, it's something that has
been u under reported for years, and that is really
it probably has more to do with the pitchers and

(17:09):
how well they hold runners on first base. But every
time that statistical sack category comes up, it's not just
an offensive line stat And yet we've hung every so
many people and I say us because I've tried to
fight the good fight. So many people have tried to
hang every single sack. Our offensive line stinks, and I

(17:32):
don't think that's what has been So I think they
that they've been parading around as villains, and here on
Halloween they actually get to take off the mask and say, see,
we're not that bad of an offensive line, right, we
haven't been as bad as you think we've been. Maybe
we've been not as we're not as good. We haven't
been as good as we want to be. There was

(17:53):
an issue there, but we're not nearly as bad as
you think we've been. And now we have a quarterback.
And do you think that it's you know that that
gets rid of the football? Anythink we just Gray's Abel
got added and just poof, we've turned into Now we're
an excellent offensive line, well of the worst to one
of the best. Yeah, it doesn't happen that way. Just

(18:14):
like with throwing out runners, it's not just sometimes the
catcher doesn't have a chance. A lot of throwing out
runners has more to do with the pitcher not holding
you on than the catcher throwing down the second.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
Yeah. Well, I mean I think that's just speaking in
absolute pretty much cross the board, not just in sports,
but in sports most definitely that they this sucks, they
can't do it, They're not ever going No, there's so
many things that go into it, right, whether it's okay,
you could upgrade a position or two or three, or boy,
you were running with your second tackle, your second best

(18:47):
right tackle, which typically we understand how important tackles are.
That's where the best edge rushers are coming off of,
so kind of important to have your best two guys
out there more often than not. Otherwise it's only going
to compound the weakness on the inside if you're sending
help out there and they're running stunts and now they're
going against another weak spot in your in your line.
But yes, I think that most certainly play calling and

(19:10):
a quarterback understanding that my best punting the ball or
or you know, throwing an incompletion and having second and
ten and then maybe even third and ten is not
the worst thing that can happen.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
So a lot better than second and twenty one.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
And it's a whole of a lot better than getting
sacked and you know, they strip it away and next
thing you know, they got a short field and some
points on the board almost automatically.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
All right, let's find out what's on tap for today's
Halloween showing.

Speaker 6 (19:38):
What's on TEP.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
What's on TEP?

Speaker 2 (19:41):
All right, Seahawks Commanders Sunday Night Football. We will have
the National Stage five point twenty on Sunday against the Commanders.
Greg Bell's going to join us today at seven o
five to discuss at Hugh Milling at nine o'clock with
x's and o's, and coach Holmgern will be with us
at nine thirty. Greg will also update us on some
key injuries at seven o five as well well, and

(20:01):
the big rumor with the Seahawks that Boye Mafe may
be playing his final game as a Seahawk this Sunday,
as he could be the guy that the Seahawks move
at the trading deadline. Thursday Night Football. The Baltimore Ravens
one of the Miami Dolphins last night twenty eight to six.
They are now three and five on the year, and
their schedule gets really soft here over the next six weeks,

(20:25):
and so there's a reason why they've never not been
the favorite to win the AFC North. And they kind
of reminded us of that last night. Kansas City at
Buffalo highlights Week nine of the National Football League season.
That'll be the afternoon game on Sunday. Week number ten
of the college football season will not feature the Huskies
there on bye, but it will feature the Pac twelve

(20:46):
championship game. Washington State and Oregon State will play tomorrow
at four thirty Sounders in Minnesota. United won't play their
second match of the playoff series until Monday. The college
basketball season also starts on Monday. There will be one
hundred and sixty nine games played Monday in college basketball.

(21:07):
I think that's what I HI layd up this morning.
So lots of college basketball activity obviously on Monday, and
tonight is the first chance that a team could win
the World Series. The Toronto Blue Jays are up three
to two on the Los Angeles Dodgers, and so they
need one win out of two at home in Canada

(21:28):
to claim World Championship status. It'll be Yama Moto versus
Gosman tonight. That is your pitching matchup, and we'll have
some time to talk about that a little bit later
on in the show. Speaking of Major League Baseball, I
realized that this isn't a top of mind story. But
I am so curious. I don't have an answer to this.

(21:49):
I'm hoping that Bucky does. I don't know how to
explain what's happening in the MLB manager hiring cycle, and
so I want to talk about it next Sports Radio
ninety three point three KJRFM. She has a costume on.
It's thematic, it's very complicated, a lot of layers to it,
and she, like Bucky and I, dressed down. The difference
is her onesie is not unzipped to her navel.

Speaker 6 (22:11):
No, it's actually all the way. Oh it's not even
all the way to the top.

Speaker 5 (22:14):
I'm well, mine's not zip down to my navel either,
have one right right?

Speaker 4 (22:19):
Which we did get a text from somebody that was like,
instead of a picture of your costumes, can we get
a picture of Bucky's no belly button?

Speaker 6 (22:25):
We can't just skip past this.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Sure, that's tirely up the bucket. That sounds really invasive.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
Yeah, well, I'm not get in trouble. It's close to
a d pic, you know what I'm saying. Oh, where
it's kind of where it's supposed to be, kind of
like the spot where my belly button it used.

Speaker 6 (22:42):
To be what happened to your belly button?

Speaker 5 (22:45):
Well, it was made in a Petri dish, Superman and
Wonder Woman, Okay, and then I swim around and here
I am. So you only need that if you have
a numbilical cord, and when you're made like I was made,
you don't have them.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
There you go, unvarnished truth right there.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
I really should have believed that I'm gonna tell everyone
Happy Halloween.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
All and so we got we got a lot of
ground to cover today. Man, I'm just looking at the rundown.
There's some really cool stuff coming up on the show today.
But I've got to talk about this here today because
I don't know if I have an explanation. I try
to think about these things and come on the air
and try to have reasons why odd things happen. But

(23:33):
this managerial cycle that is happening in Major League Baseball,
here are the guys that have been hired. Skip Schumacher,
Kurt Suzuki, Tony Vatello, Craig Albernaz, Blake but Terra, and
Derek Shelton. Now, if those don't exactly sound like household
names to you, there's a good reason they're not if
you were like, oh, I don't remember them managing anywhere, well,

(23:55):
you would have had to been a pirate fan the
last five years to have heard of Derek Shelton and
Skip Schumacher did win National League Manager of the Year
a couple of years ago with the Marlins. But that's
six hirings this offseason, a combined six and a half
years of managerial experience. So that's strange enough to begin with.

(24:16):
Now add on to that, Bucky, the fact that I
thought we were moving in this direction of kind of
awakening like some more old school baseball. I mean, this
entire postseason, every single analyst, including Bucky and Ryan Healy
here on Kjar has been telling us the Blue Jays
are getting there because they do a lot of the

(24:38):
old school the way the game is supposed to be played,
putting the ball in play, not striking out, you know,
playing good defense. I mean, that's how you're supposed to
play the game. And they're playing it better than anybody
out there right now, and here they are on the
verge of becoming world champions. And I don't know the
strategies of these four new comers. Suzuki Vitello Albernaz and Buttera.

(25:02):
I don't know what they're steeped in. All I know
is that they're very young, thirty three to forty seven,
with a combined zero games as a manager in Major
League Baseball. So how do you explain when all analysts
are saying we're going to start moving back toward old
school methods, and yet all of the managerial hires are

(25:25):
fresh raw fruit, picked straight from the orchard. Not a
single one of them has ripened.

Speaker 5 (25:31):
Right, Well, yeah, I mean I think that I think
that all of them would probably check the dual box
that is, okay, are you open and do you understand
the analytics? Because we're never not going to use those enrectly?
So right, So, you just think new guys coming in,
regardless of whether they have a little bit of experience

(25:52):
like Skip Schumacher does, whether they have college experience like
the Vittello guy does, that they're also probably board with
the analytics.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Right.

Speaker 5 (26:01):
You're young, you when you first started to think about
being a manager, the analytics were already in the game.
I played with Skip Schumacher. I can tell you this.
He is an old school player. He's he was an
old school player. I think that I think that is
where you're going to go with him. I think he's
probably the Kurt Suzuki Japanese guy. Right, what do we

(26:22):
when you watch Japanese players, Well, he's American, right.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
I mean he's got a Japanese I mean obviously his family, right, Japanese.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
But he plays the game with the same type of
I want to check all the boxes, right, Like I
remember watching him play. He wasn't a guy that was
trying to swing all or nothing. He was a guy
that tried to hit, you know, obviously being a catcher,
he was a general back there understood how you have
to manage a game from you know, standing back there,
being the only one facing out towards the field. I

(26:51):
think that there might be when I just look at
this group, while I don't know him, you have a
what's his name Murphy with with Milwaukee. Now, they that
team didn't do very much in the postseason, but they
were the best team as far as record goes throughout
the regular season. That's a college thing where it's like, okay,

(27:11):
if you can bring a little bit of the college
is typically more old school then a lot of the
Prima Donna, you know, big time professional baseball players are
allowed to be managed in the big leagues, and so
to me it kind of feels like, wow, we don't
know them. That it might be all of these guys
might check those two boxes where you have to be
open and understand the analytics and be willing to use those,

(27:34):
but also moving towards a little bit more of the
complete game and maybe moving away from the idea of
launch angle being paramount to your success.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
I don't know enough about their backgrounds. It just seems
to me that we seem to be moving toward a
you know, an era of Bruce Bochie getting hired again
and Bob Melvin being hired repeatedly, and even Dan Wilson,
even though he didn't have any managerial periods, it was
sort of this, we need to bring some old school
back in and now here we've got this wave of

(28:07):
the newest school. Now, maybe they are new guys with
old values. I don't know that, but it I guess
is that it's probably a lot of young guys that
are thinking about what the future of the baseball game,
a game of baseball is going to be played. I mean,
the Fotello's just really strange. That's the first no major

(28:29):
league experience at all managers since nineteen eighty for goodness sake,
that is just so. Here's my best guess, and I
only have like twenty seconds to discuss this, but my
best guess is I watch Kevin Sitzer work with the Mariners,
and I watch somebody that is just so supportive. You're

(28:49):
doing the right things. I just wanted you to emphasize them.
You know, he's just like so supportive and hands on.
I don't know these individual's personalities either, but I think
this is a recognition of today's athlete does not want
to be scolded. Today's athlete does not want to be

(29:12):
you know, uh ed scheft. Today's athlete wants to be
coddled and taught. It's not like they're they want they
don't want to just they work hard. Mariners players work hard.
They are terrific with their preparation. But I think that
today's athlete has to be managed differently. And I think

(29:36):
Kevin Seitzer not only brought some tremendous value in terms
of his hitting knowledge to this team this year, but
the way the soft touch that he brings to the field.
Even Dan, I mean Dan's an old school minded baseball guy.
And yet Dan Wilson's very gentle person, very supportive person,

(29:57):
never throws this guys under the bus. I mean, we
made fun of how many of his press conferences and
it's because I'm not going to give you what you want.
I'm going to give you the most vanilla answer ever,
because I'm never going to actually tell you what I
think about a player, because I'm going to protect them.
And I my guess is that's what they're trying to

(30:21):
tap into with these managerial hires. It's people with some
terrific knowledge, but more than that, it's people that have
a gentle touch and really are relatable to young players,
to today's players, and they know exactly how to stroke
them and how to criticize them while stroking them. Yeah,

(30:42):
that's my guess. That's my best guess, because I can't
figure out how you can go through a managerial cycle
and four out of six guys in an era where
everybody is saying we need to go back to old
school baseball because that's what's going to start separating teams,
and then you hire four out of six guys with
zero managerial experience, and not only zero manager experience, never
even heard of three of these dudes.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
Yeah, well, I mean, I think you've got to go
back to old school baseball, and I think these guys
all will be doing that. Well, I mean, I don't
know them either, but I'm guessing they will all be
doing it. But you can't go back to the old
school demeaning your players, not being supportive. So you have
to be able to do both of those, and you
encompass the analytics and how you treat guys, and there's

(31:25):
a lot that goes into it. I think that these
this is probably this is probably the avenue they're trying
to go towards.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
No cliche keys the victory. Next on KJR, wave them
around like they just don't care.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
I just made that up. Yeah, no catch, that was
a Lewis song years ago.

Speaker 6 (31:43):
That's original thing.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
That's original stuff right here this morning on Chuck and Buck.
There is no way that every hip hop artist from
nineteen eighty through modern day uses that.

Speaker 5 (31:56):
There's no chance. I never heard that from them.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
All right, it's for no cliche Keys to Victory, Seahawks
taking on the Commanders this Sunday night, of course, No
cliche keys to Victory. Pretty self explanatory. I need a
key to victory, bucket. But please don't give me a cliche.
Don't tell me winning the trenches. Don't tell me all
three phases. Give me something specific that is going to
be the key to the Seahawks winning Sunday night.

Speaker 5 (32:21):
Keep playing statistically like the best run defense in the game.
I mean statistically, I think they're number one as far
as amount of rushing yards they've given up. Outside of
Kyler Murray, the haven't played against a bunch of running quarterbacks,
and he had a decent game against them running the football. Now,
you ended up winning, so it didn't cost you. But
if you let him and Bill krossky Merritt get loose,

(32:45):
you could be in for something now. So you just
have to keep doing what you've been doing. I think
to stop the run, I think you should be fine.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Stopping the run, Yes, will be the key to the victory. Ashley,
what's your no cliche key to victory?

Speaker 6 (32:57):
I'm not gonna say they have to keep just playing football.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
No. I think it's the thing that we've been talking
about over and over and over. We keep hearing about
that this run game has to take off for the Seahawks,
and we haven't really seen it take off yet, and
I would like to see not I mean, Zach charbonays
coming and he's done some things, but I would like
to see ken Walker actually be the focal point. I

(33:22):
would like to see the pressure be off Sam Darnold,
and I would like to see JSN have a standard
number of you know, receptions, because the run game actually
finally did the thing that it seems like year after year,
even under different coaches.

Speaker 6 (33:37):
I understand, we talk about it and it never happens.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
I tell you this, if they get the run game
established Sunday that they are winning, yeah, I'll say that.
I think they can win without that. I think that.
I just think this is man. I think the Seahawks
should win this game by double digits, even on the road.

Speaker 6 (33:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
I mean they are just the healthier team. Yeah, the
younger team, the team playing better football right now. They've
had a they've had a bye week, and the Commanders
have a short week. They don't even have a full
week of rest and recovery from this. Their quarterback is
playing hobbled. Our quarterback is on the top of his game.

(34:21):
I mean, I just I mean, certainly, again, we're not
going to speak in absolutes. There's certainly a way that
the Commanders win this game on Sunday. But I think
I circle this as a game where the Seahawks should
handle it easily. I really do. And so I even
got a kick. I'm gonna go with my no cliche
keet of victory. Dana Orlowski. The other day on NFL Live,

(34:45):
he was trying to search through all the stats to
try to find a way that the Commanders could beat them.
Oh wow, So he's trying to figure it out, and
he's going through all of the Seahawks defensive stats and
now they're top of the league and most everything out there,
and he, like, I guess if they struggle in one area.
The statistics say that the Seahawks do struggle against hurry

(35:08):
up offenses for whatever reason. Interesting, and the Commanders love
to run with Jayden Daniels hurry up offense. So I'm
just gonna follow dan Orlowski's lead, because, like him, I
don't really feel that this is a matchup that the
Commanders win. And so if there is something that specific
that one of the better analysts in the sport is

(35:29):
pointing out, then I'm gonna go ahead and say, yeah,
all right, if we do truly struggle with that and
haven't improved in behind the scenes in a couple of weeks,
and they truly are excellent at that, then maybe that's
where they beat us. But so I'll go ahead and
name that as the key. As long as you don't
let them dominate and hurry up offense, then the Seahawks

(35:50):
should win the football game.

Speaker 6 (35:51):
Okay, yeah, I like that.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (35:53):
See that seems very uncliche and very specific.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
It's the opposite of cliche.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
Yeah, I would like for you.

Speaker 6 (36:00):
Mine was like for a lot of cliche.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
NFL analysts to write that down. Yeah, Alexi Lawless, you
could write that down to yeah, yeah, all right. Coming
up next, Greg Bell will join us plus your Headline
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