October 6, 2025 • 36 mins
Headlines and 12th Man News with GREGG BELL (Tacoma News Tribune) The Seahawks lost a shootout at home to the Buccaneers, so it begs the question; what has happened to this Seahawks defense? Did injuries play too big of a role in the loss? Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield put on a show! :30- The Mariners spilt games 1 and 2 with Detroit and while the split didn’t go how we thought it would, we will take the end result. Manager Dan Wilson was left to make a decision on Saturday and left George Kirby in the face Kerry Carpenter on his 3rd at-bat. That didn’t go well for the Mariners, so when he faced the same situation on Sunday, he wasn’t going to make the same mistake twice and it paid off. :35- Ashley makes her fact or fiction pick and she’s been on a downward slide lately (thanks to a Push). Can she right the ship? :45- ABCs of the Mariners - H is for Homers: where would we be without Jorge Polanco’s home runs? Thank goodness we brought that guy back! - I is for induce: - J is for Journey: the boys are going on a journey and heading to Detroit for Games 3 & 4
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Husky Seattle crack to the sports radio three point three.
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Speaker 3 (00:19):
Polumco sends this tone out and that his history.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Payoll.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Pitch to Polunco, fastball deep oor Hey Poloko, he's done.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Again to two pitch the other way. It's a fair
ball down the right field line. Torres will score. Here
comes Green and the third Joey Cora.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Giving him the way.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Here's the throw hits cut off and this game is tied.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Heart hit by rolling down the right field line.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Turns the porto and a big temple is looking for
extra basics.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Man, he's got another.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
Drive.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Brothers take three guys's clutching the.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Bouncing ball to Naylor, clips and fashes.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
In their first play off fuin in twenty four years,
the Mariners have time a series at one first.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
At home in twenty four years. Adam Amin at best
one on the calls there last night of the Mariners
three two win over the Detroit Tigers to even the
series at one game apiece. Yeah, I wasn't expecting to
lose game one and win game number two. But nonetheless,
we've arrived at a one to one draw through two
games of this five game series, and the Mariners now
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head to Detroit to take on the Tigers. Game three
we'll be tomorrow at one o'clock, and then game four
on Wednesday. It's Chuck Obuck in the Morning's here on
a Monday. What a crazy weekend for all of us
that love Seattle sports. Ashley Ryan is here, Bucky Jacobson,
former Mariners here. My name is Chuck Powell. Greg Bell's
going to join us in a moment. We haven't really
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broken down the Buccaneer Seahawks game at all so far
this morning, so we'll get that started with Greg and
Hughes on his way at eight o'clock. He'll be with
us for just an hour today, but we'll get full
hour from Hugh r QB one to break down the
Buccaneers Seahawks game as well. Let's start, though, with our
frost brewed Corps light headlines here on a choice chill Monday,
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and it does begin with the Mariners three two victory
over the Detroit Tigers last night, after blowing a two
to nothing lead in the top of the eighth. Julio
Rodriguez and Cal Rowley teamed up in the bottom of
the eighth back to back doubles, Rodriguez producing the game
winning RBI Andres Munio's closes it out in the ninth
in the MS even the series at a game apiece.
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The Yankees are down two games to none. Toronto has
absolutely whipped them in the first two games of this series,
and that series shifts to New York on Tuesday as
well at five o'clock. As the Yankees are officially operating
with their backs against the wall. The National League Division
series will continue tonight. They took Sunday off, but they'll
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have center stage tonight. Dodgers at Phillies at three o'clock.
Cubs and Brewers six o'clock start our time. That's an
eight o'clock start in the Midwest for those two teams.
College football, somehow, some way, You Dub rallied to defeat
Maryland on Saturday, twenty four to twenty. They outscored the
Turtles twenty one to nothing. In the fourth quarter. Jed
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Fish gets his first big ten road victory of his
tenure with the Huskies, and so You Dub pulls out
the win twenty four to twenty. Penn State did not.
They lost a Ucla for goodness sake over the weekend,
a win endless Bruins team that looked like they hadn't
a clue on how to play football this year. But
hand it over to a new Heizel and see what happens.
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Jerry Neweisl is suddenly the Cinderella at the ball. They're
in Ucla. Sounders won nothing winners over the Timbers on
Saturday night. The WNBA Finals continue Wednesday with the Aces
up on the Mercury two to nothing. Series shifts to Phoenix.
We are on the eve of the National Hockey League
season getting underway, and then the Kraken won't open until
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Thursday at home against the Anaheim Ducks. And finally, Buccaneers
defeat the Seahawks in a crazy game yesterday at Loomenfield,
high scoring affair thirty eight to thirty five the final score.
Joining us now to discuss it is our Seahawks insider
Greg Valley, two different major sports last night or over
the weekend.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
Mister bell Well, I thinks it was. I enjoyed the
hum out of it. Actually it was great. It's a
really unique weekend, And yes, it was really unique walking
over I have I don't ever cover a game that's
already started. And I got in the second ending of
the Mariners game, and it was really unique the view.
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I was walking across the top of the sixth floor
of the parking deck next to lewin Field, which looks
into through left field of T Mobile Park, and you
had the noise and the echoes and could hear the
roars of the fans as I walked across and then
down First Avenue into the game, and it was it
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was cool. It was a really cool and I know
fans aren't very happy this morning, but that was the
hull of a game. It was an old fashioned kingdom shootout.
I thought it was like Dan Fouts and Jim Zorn
going out in the Kingdom in the AFC West or something.
It was. It was an entertaining game, very alarming.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Yeah, we'll say that, how personal does Mike McDonald take
a game like that? Not only did he lose, but
I mean Baker Mayfield kind of had his way.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
I mean there were a.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Couple of drives that were just way too easy for
the Buccaneers on Sunday.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
Yeah, very personal. Check you said, this is my fault.
I got to prepare them better. I have to call better.
I have to have better schemes that have answers, and I
have to pressure quarterbacks better. The most damning thing right now,
the one thing they could hang their hat on right
was their defense. The defense will keep them in games,
and the offense will scratch out just enough, but the
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defense would keep them in games. Well, you remember, until
the last five six minutes at Arizona, this is the
number two defense in the league, allowing fifteen points a game.
They hadn't allowed seventeen points in any game in the
first three and then Arizona scores two touchdowns late, and
then what happened yesterday. That's in the last sixty six
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minutes of game time, the last six minutes in Arizona,
and all day yesterday, last sixty six minutes, fifty two
points teams have put up on the Mike McDonald's defense.
We saw what happens when you give quarterbacks time to throw,
or sometimes the point the quarterback gives himself time, makes
himself time to throw. Baker Makeso's tying touchdown was supposed
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to be inside the pocket, and he spun around boy
mafe and extended the play was left, throws back across
his body my approach. It wasn't even supposed to be
in the game. Third string cornerback tries to grab the
receiver and spin him around. He misses and throws himself
out of the play. Receiver wide open back of the
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end zone. Touchdown and the game was tied. And then
Donald's interception became because of a safety blips. Antoine Winfield
was unblocked up the middle. We talk all the time
about pressure up the middle just kills plays, and Donald
was trying to throw to Cooper Cup over the middle.
He didn't see Levante David go from the right side
of the defensive set to the left side. Missed that
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coverage change and the pressure men he couldn't see David
switch anyway, Paul goes off ahead of a defensive lineman
for an interception. He blamed himself, Donald for not changing
the protection call at the line to pick up that blitz.
He said they had practiced against that safety blitz, had
a couple protection calls against it. He went with one
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they had practice as well, but should have changed to
another and should have thrown it to Horton on the
right side. So they had two l's yesterday, the loss,
and then some good leadership that might last them a
long time down the road of their quarterback and their
head coach taking the blame.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
Yeah, I mean, obviously there's a lot of offense.
Speaker 8 (08:27):
Well, I mean, you know, Sam Darnold, with the exception
of that interception, looked good and yet to kind of
continue on the idea of the Seahawks defense, it didn't.
It's not just that you give up thirty eight points.
I mean, it's just the effectiveness. I think to some
degree you got to kind of give credit where credit
is due. I think the Buccaneers are pretty good, but
they didn't. They were missing some of their weapons, I mean,
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missing probably one of their best wide receivers, and they're
starting running back. And yet Baker Mayfield it looked really
easy the way in which he did it. Like you said,
I mean, I mean seven for seven to Abuka. He
basically had four incomplete passes the entire game, and most
of them looked like there was nobody even around. Some
of them fit into some decent windows. But is there
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something where they're running more zone because it just felt
like they were dicing them up like they knew what
they were going to be trying to defend them with.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Well, yeah, Bucky, they did use more zone because they
didn't trust their man coverage with all. With Witherspoon and
Chilian Love out of the game, two of the best
Pro Bowl defensive backs didn't play yesterday, and then Rieke
Wallen gets hurt, and all of a sudden, people seeing
what you don't have when Reek Wallen's not back there
you have Poe Perrie behind him of backups. Look, it
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doesn't matter who you have in the secondary. You could
have Deon Sanders and Ronnie Lot everybody else in their
prime her batterly. And if you don't pressure quarterbacks in
this league, you're done. The league rules are against defensive
backs even touching receivers down the field, and they can't
cover them for five seconds. And a lot of Buccaneers
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plays in five or more seconds, and anybody is going
to give up catches and touchdowns in that And that
was the biggest fault, And I could see it. You
could almost see Mike McDonald's gears grinding in his head
during the game of whether to blitz more or less.
He was afraid. We kept talking all season about how
when they were pressuring with four the numbers were in
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the seahawks favor of seven in coverage. Well, yesterday the
four couldn't get even close to maf Mayfield ran away
from him anyway. So then he started bringing faster defenders
on blitzes. But he was really reluctant to bring his corners.
I noticed that he was blitzing Tylecotta most of all,
and Tylecotta would just run in and get swallowed up
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by the offensive lineman. He wasn't fast enough nor big enough.
Tylecotta is not supposed to play one hundred percent of
the snaps in this defense, and that's what he played
yesterday because Julian Love was out. They he was so
reluctant to give up his corners and coverage that in
the one snap that the Anthony Bell had on defense
after Emon Worri came out briefly injured in the fourth
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quarter was late third. The one snap was a blitz
by the Anthony Bell. It was in the fourth quarter,
early in the fourth and he got a sack and
that was the only sack quarterback hit. They had two
hits one lighter in the game, but that fourth quarter
sack was the first time they even touched Mayfield, and
it was another safety blitz. Time and again when Okada
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blitzed Mayfield would throw to where ocado came from. It
was basically off one oh one offense, throw to where
the blitzer comes from over the middle. Seventeen yard cats,
twelve yard cats. I kept watching thro robinoculars thirty nine
going into the line of scrimmage and just getting swallowed
by white creamsickle jerseys every time. And McDonald did not
want to bring his corners because he was already so
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limited in guys who could cover. So he had slow,
four down linemen that couldn't get the mayfield, and he
had a little undersized, understrength, slower safety who could not
get the mayfield. Yeah, I mean you had guys the
Anthony Bell, Tyokatta Neamia Pritchard playing yesterday. It looked like
a preseason game. And what is one of the better
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quarterbacks in the league right now, a two time Pro
bowler coming off a division title, absolutely shredded him.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Greg Bell is with us our Seahawks inside. Of course,
you can follow him at GBL Seattle on x and
of course Theewstribune dot com complete round the clock coverage
of your Seattle Seahawks from Greg Bell, and he joins
us most every day at seven oh five right here
on Chuck and Buck in the mornings as our Seahawks insider. Yeah,
Baker Mayfield seems to have elevated to that level. I
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think Sam Darnold's playing at that level right now. You
know what I kept thinking about, Yeah, we lost this game,
But the real loser in all of this the Carolina Panthers.
How did they have both of those guys at one
point and ended up trading away one thousand first round
picks in order to get somebody worse.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Chuck, you're the first person in Seattle to say the
real loser of the Seahawky even stay with the Carolina Panthers.
I don't think anybody else that's a silver lining. That's
nice of you to bring up. Yes, Donald was brilliant,
and he did it largely by himself. Look at the
numbers and he said, oh, well, Kenneth Walker ran for
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eighty five yards and ten carries and they ended up
with one hundred and twenty two yards.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
Rore sick.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Most of the game they weren't running, and we saw
again that Klint Kubiak is gonna stick with it, come
help or high water, and it worked. He just kept
plugging and plugging and plugging it. Finally in the second half,
Walker started breaking some ten and twelve yard runs and
even at twenty two yard run in the third quarter.
And despite my point is that Donald did it in
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the first two and a half quarters without a run game,
and that is not how this offense is supposed to work.
Yet it worked to a tune of four hundred and
seventy six yards passing. It's not hard to imagine that
if Donald doesn't throw the interception, it doesn't get blitz uncovered,
blitz up the middle, they go down and score the
winning field goal there, right, Yeah, because they had four
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hundred seventy six yards. So yeah, if you have a
Sam Donald offense, Sam Donald completes eighty percent of his
throws for three hundred and forty six yards and four touchdowns,
you damn well have to win the game. And that's
the problem. The defense absolutely giving it all up. Again,
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they're completely decimated by injuries in the secondary, but every
team has injuries. The Buccaneers came with a larger injury
less than Scattle did Bucky pointing out rightly that his
Bucky Duck, the irving for Morgan, didn't play, and Mike Evans,
the Hall of Fame wide receiver didn't play, and a
couple of linemen didn't play. So everyone's hurt once they
start playing games. It's nature this business. It does say
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that the depth behind the starters is a problem for Seattle,
and McDonald failed in his juggling in his head of
whether the blitz or not he was inflicted. He admitted
to me after the game when I asked him that question,
that yeah, you're right. You got to pick your poison
on when to blitz and how much to blitz a
guy like Baker Mayfield, because even when you blitz, you
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might not get to him. And that's often what happened yesterday. Anyway.
Alarming is the word I keep going back to. You
get a game that good from a quarterback, Sam Donald,
and I'm not I don't think the last You can't
blame this loss on him. That last that was something
of almost a freak play. But if you have a
free blitzer up the middle, trouble's going to happen. But
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they have to win a game that Donald leads in
the four and seventy six sharts offense.
Speaker 8 (15:36):
Yeah, well, I mean I think the other way around.
You're right, without that interception, the chances are it seemed like,
I mean, they hadn't been stopped in one, two, three, four,
five consecutives.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Yeah, maybe misses the field goal, but I think range.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 8 (15:53):
And so if it feels like you can see kind
of a silver lining on the offensive side of things,
and yet it doesn't feel very ish. It feels like
it's going to turn green if you take a shower
in it, but it'll it'll it feels like, Okay, there's
some good things you can look at there. The defensive
side of it obviously just did not step up. I
mean they had that one stop that kind of stopped
the seventh straight where they were just going back and
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forth with touchdowns, and so, yeah, you can say depth
is not there, and yet to me it would still
feel like there's you got to expect that you're going
to have to play the depth part of it. So
is there is there changes that they're going to be
making or is this what you roll with? Is there
anything you can do to to, you know, hope that
you're better in case of not in case of, but
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because you're going to have injuries the rest of the
season as well.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Well. It is at the moment what they're going to
have to roll with, and the hopes that Devin Witherspoon
and Julian Love can come back this weekend and Jacksonville
from their injuries and play again. It may well the
people the talk and even a thought inside their own
building that maybe we shouldn't trade Frek Willing because remember this,
I'm pretty sure this talk of teams wouldn't to get
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interested in Woollen came first from inside the building as
they were trying to shop them. But they got a
glimpse yesterday what life could be without him, and it
looks like they can use all the serviceable corners they
can find right now. Look, it's in the biggest picture.
And I took a step back at the end of
the game yesterday and thought about this. The name of
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the game of the NFL remains quarterback play, and if
your quarterback takes care of the ball, you win. Sam
Donald drops the ball because he gets his right tackle
pushed in him at the end in the ten yard
line and thirty seconds left against San Francisco, they lose
by four. Sam Donald throws an interception off of Guy's
helmet in the final minute, they lose by three. If
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he holds onto the ball, they probably win both those games,
and they're undefeated. I mean, despite the defense's problems. If
the quarterback takes care of the ball and the clutch,
they win. If Sam Donald becomes cal Rawly and j
Rodriguez in the clutch in either of those two games,
they win. But yet, having said that, you can't blame
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yesterday's loss on him. So that's how narrow the margin
is for this team, with the defense that they has
no depth in the blitz that doesn't blitz, and the
pressure living with just four front four providing the pressure
that spell running out the margins of finn For a
lot of teams in the NFL, that's the nature of
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this business. Ask the Baltimore Ravens right now. So look,
the sky's not falling. It's week five. They're three and
two in a division where the leader is four and one,
and they still play their division foes, the forty nine
ers again. They still play the Rams two more times.
They've already beaten the Cardinals and the bigger picture, yesterday
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doesn't really damage any bigger longer term prospects. It's just
so alarming that the bedrock of the team, the defense,
got absolutely torched.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Right.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Well, we got a lot more ground to cover with
all of this, but we'll have to spread it out
during a week of baseball. So thank you sir, great stuff.
Is always good to see you over the weekend, and
we'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Yeah, before I got some face to face. Yeah, Ookie,
I think I saw you even the third deck last night.
I think you're on the jumbo tron at one point.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (19:19):
Uh No, I don't think I was ever in the
third deck. Just another like chubby, redheaded guy. Is that
what you're saying?
Speaker 9 (19:26):
No, no, no, no, A wife and a kid ball
glancing up at that with you. No, you don't slum
in the third deck. I'm sorry to yees there.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Sometimes man, I don't know. Now I can see I
can see them one in both games of Detroit and
not even coming back. They're just there's something.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
That's what I'm predicting.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
Yeah, what's going to happen?
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Yeah, happy Monday.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Thanks, good all right, Greg, Thank you Sea Hawks. Inside
of Greg Bell joining us right here on Chugging Bug
in the morning. All Right, Factor Fiction coming up at
seven thirty five. We'll also talk about a really pivotal
moment that felt eerily the same on Saturday and Sunday
for Dan Wilson. That's coming up next. Sports Radio ninety
three point three KJRFM. All right, we are three and
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nine minutes away from Factor Fiction. Our first pick of
the week. Ashley's got the pick today, So seven thirty
five your chance to win one thousand dollars from Lucky
Eagle Casino and Hotel. Of course, more Mariners talk coming
your way in the nine o'clock hour today. We'll just
do one hour of Monday Morning Quarterback with you Millen
today from eight to nine. No coach with us. Ryan
Healey will be with us at nine thirty to talk Mariners.
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We also have ABC's of the m's coming your way
before the end of the hour. But certainly an interesting
thing occurred in the two games. A loss on Saturday,
a win on Sunday. Deja vu moment for first year
postseason manager Dan Wilson, as on Saturday he decided to
stick with his starter and on Sunday he decided to
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go to the reliever in almost an eerily similar situation
fifth inning, both starting pitchers throwing shutouts. At that point,
we know how much faith we have in our starting
pitching here with Seattle. But on Saturday, with Kerry Carpenter,
Mariner Killer, coming to the plate, he decided to stick
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with George, and certainly Carpenter killed us again a two
run homer, and it kind of changed the way that
game was played. The very next night, same situation, two outs,
two on bottom of the fifth, Carpenter coming to the plate.
Dan Wilson decides to go to the bullpen, and Gabe
Spire strikes out Carpenter in the most beautiful moment perhaps
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of the entire evening, and you go on and win
that game. I think it was a bit bucky. As
we discussed this on both of the postgame shows, an
admission of guilt, mission of a mistake by Dan Wilson
to go the opposite way on Sunday. Frankly, I think
he should have gone the Spire in both of those
situations over the week.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
Yeah, well, I'm sure that he's probably thinking that too.
Right now.
Speaker 8 (22:18):
You don't know sliding doors and you don't know how
things could possibly change.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
It was you know it was It'd be one thing
if it looked like.
Speaker 8 (22:28):
If it looked like Georgia was getting tired possibly or
pitch count was really getting up there. That wasn't it,
And he made some good pitches. It was just a
better swing by Kerry Carpenter. But I think, yeah, the
idea of I'm one that I like you kind of
going gut field, not just stats, not just sabermetrics, but
at the same time, in the playoffs, more often than not,
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you're going to use an extra guy or two or
three out of the bullpen. And so, I mean, he
said in his post game yesterday that it was going
to be weird possibly having to go out there and
poll Castillo having not giveing up a hit yet.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Yeah, but that.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
Means he was already kind of resigned to the fact
that we're going matchups, right, you just can't go with well,
I think he still has more in the tank. You
do that in April, you do it in May, you
do it in June. You will say, no, we need
to get five plus out of our starter. If he's
pitching well enough, we're okay with giving up a run.
But yesterday's game, after dropping the first one, and then
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you're going against Trek Scugle, who's going you know, tit
for tat with with Luis Castillo. As far as the
zero's they were putting up, you're basically feeling like, no,
we can't let an opportunity slide. We can't go out
there and and think, oh, maybe we can get past
this one. You got to do what you think is
the best, regardless of what it means. I mean, you
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end up pulling You end up pulling Castillo out after
only eighty five pitches, essentially, but he would he had
been working really hard in those eighty five pitches. It
wasn't like he was breezing through things. I mean his
first inning was almost thirty pitches. He was his pitch
can't was getting up there quick. Now he settled in
and got enough outs to where you didn't have to
use six or seven different guys from the bullpen. But
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that was a prime time to bring him in, and
I'm glad that it worked out the way did.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
A lesson learned is you have to manage these games
differently than you did during the regular season. And I
think Dan Wilson learned a really valuable lesson on Saturday
and applied it immediately on Sunday. All right, let's play
some factor fiction. We're set to go. Glad you're with us.
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Speaker 4 (24:42):
All right, well, it's Ashley's pick this morning, as we
are going to try to give away one thousand dollars
again this week. Ashley, where are we going today?
Speaker 10 (24:51):
Well, we are going to go to the Monday night
football game, because you know I love some immediate gratification.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
I like doing that.
Speaker 11 (24:56):
Let's tell a little extra something tonight.
Speaker 10 (24:59):
I was looking the spread, I think yesterday maybe, and
by the time I got here this.
Speaker 11 (25:04):
Morning, it went a little bit more in my favor.
Speaker 10 (25:06):
So it is the Jaguars hosting the Chiefs, the Jaguars
getting four points, So why don't you give me Jacksonville
plus the four? Oh okay, they give me them plus
the four at home against the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
All right. That means the kans City Chiefs have to
win by four points or more because, believe me, you'll
get hurt by a push.
Speaker 11 (25:29):
Yep, I did two two pushes, last two pushes.
Speaker 10 (25:32):
Yeah, because it was a four point spread in the
Minnesota Cleveland game too.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Gosh, that's there should be an asterisk.
Speaker 11 (25:39):
Yeah, right, because we didn't basically get them wrong.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Yeah, exactly, we would have gotten our money back at
the window. All right, Well, Ashley's gonna go ahead and
go with the Jacksonville Jaguars, and so the Kansaity Chiefs
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that game is played in North Florida, whereas Flaaridians call
it South Georgia. They don't really like to claim Jacksonville
in Florida. And that weird? Is weird? Yeah?
Speaker 11 (27:25):
Really there's a lot.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Of Yeah, like you got stuffed to brag Jacksonville's the problem,
Like you got stuff to brag about Tampa?
Speaker 10 (27:32):
Yeah, have you read the news? Do you read the
If you go online and search dumb news, I guarantee.
There's seven Florida stories that pop up, no.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Question about it. All right, So that's the pic. And yes,
so what did we do then over the weekend? I
know we got at least one right, right.
Speaker 10 (27:47):
We got two rights, so we come down as in
Giants game, correct, Okay.
Speaker 11 (27:52):
And it was also.
Speaker 7 (27:54):
The the under that you picked.
Speaker 11 (27:56):
On fred Ye under. Yeah, the Giants at New Orleans
under forty two.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Oh, we went two and three, so we have a
losing when we had.
Speaker 11 (28:02):
Two pushes, Yeah, two and three.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Five the way Michigan State was like up with like
five minutes to go and ended up losing by eleven.
And I had pushed.
Speaker 10 (28:11):
Cleveland was in a good spot. They were looking to
be in a good ser right, you're right.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
I just chaps my ass, I know. All right, Next
chance to play some Factor fiction comes your way at
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Speaker 7 (28:35):
Nice.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Yeah, from eight to nine, he'll break down your Seahawks
loss to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers yesterday out at Loomin
thirty eight to thirty five. But plenty to talk about,
that's for sure. But of course, Mariners, we've just scratched
the surface this morning on this topic, and the ABC's
of the MS will allow us to journey preps into
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a couple of different different directions. We left off of
the letter H on Friday, HS for homers, Hora Polonko
mustling up against Trek's schooble. Where would we be without
Hora Polanco's homers yesterday? Oh, thank goodness, thank goodness all
a Blagos he had.
Speaker 8 (29:15):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, thank god he's been that they
brought him back after last year's subpar season.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
Because he's been. He's been a godsend for for this
team the entire season.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Halanders said this Hus for Hollander, he said, I don't
know if I could live with because he almost went
HUS for Houston. He almost went to the Astros. Can
you imagine that I'd wanted Horray Polanco for years finally
get him. He has a bad year for us, We
would have let him go. He goes to Houston and
probably is the difference in the American League West. Yeah, yeah,
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that would be so Mariners.
Speaker 7 (29:49):
Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 8 (29:51):
And it was close, It was close to happen, and
I know that was the team that he was talking to,
and he actually wanted to come back and redeem himself
and feel good about the way they played last year.
Battle on injuries and just couldn't get out of basically
a season long funk that he was in. So yeah,
he comes back this year, has to battle with injuries
right off the bat and you know, not being able
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to hit right handed for whatever reason was going on
with his side, and yet yesterday a couple bombs right
handed against the best lefty in the game right now,
one of the best pitchers period, and it's just you're
gonna have to do that. Like, going into the game,
it kind of felt like, all right, who's going yard today,
somebody's got to run into one. He's not perfect. He'll
still make mistakes, just like any pitcher will. It's the
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difference between a guy like that going eight innings and
shutting you out and winning the ballgame is whether or
not you have somebody that capitalizes on the mistake. And
he made a couple of mistakes to him and made
I think it was a slider the first pitch and
he's he's got a good swing or hey. He brings
that professional aspect where he stays in the zone a
long time.
Speaker 7 (30:52):
That's why he uses the entire field.
Speaker 8 (30:54):
And you have to have that against a guy like
Trek School because all this stuff is hard and it
has crazy movement, and so you're not going to arrive
perfectly on time very often. If you can stay in
the zone longer. Now, if that slider hits a big
part of the plate, you have a good chance of
barrowing it up.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
He does that with the first.
Speaker 8 (31:10):
One and then comes back and then turns on another
one for that second home run. And that it felt
like breathing room. It felt like the breathing room that
you needed. Yeah, I mean it felt like I mean,
I just felt I was doing math with Ian Furness
up there. So you know what, right now, if we
can get one more, we'll take.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
His shoes off, so get kind of stoes.
Speaker 8 (31:31):
Uh Nope, nope, I said, I feel good right now
with the way that this is setting up for our bullpen,
and you know the back end of our bullpen.
Speaker 7 (31:40):
But I'd feel twice as good if we could get
another run.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Here.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
See that's the math. I was doing what really so
like two?
Speaker 4 (31:46):
He kept it to two if you had to go
on to eleven or more Canadian struggle. I brought this
up to Bucky. I have not brought it up to
Ashley or on this morning show. But you know what
probably Bucky and I get the most grief for, and
we take a lot of grief for our Mariners analysis,
is when we talk about it being a long season. Okay,
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that's probably what we get the most grief for here
in our analysis. Well, if Horri Polonko is not an example,
and we talked about this last night with the postgame
show of how long of a season earlier this year,
he could not hit against left handed pitchers. They wouldn't
allow it, no matter how bad the left handed pitcher was.
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Horriy Polanka was killing right handers, and yet because of
his injury, if a left he came into the game,
we would take him out of the game. And that
lasted for about a month. That's how we dealt with
Horray Polanko in our lives. And then what happens in
the most important game of the year to date. He
hit two homers right handed off of the best left
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handed pitcher in the world. If that's not a long season,
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 10 (33:00):
It's like he had like five seasons within a season.
It is true, And I would say also, H is
for Hallelujah, thank you for Jorge.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Yes, I is for induce. What do you think, gang,
do we induce missus Naylor? Let's just get this baby
out of the way so we don't have to worry
about it Tuesday and Wednesday? Is that what we do
with our sports love? We just we induced labor?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (33:20):
Well, I don't know if this was a good idea,
but I did send her an edible arrangement that was
laced with potosinh. Yeah, we'll just go ahead and get
this show on the road, because Naylor's a guy that
we're gonna need to be Josh Naylor if you want
to you want this ride, this roller coaster of a
postseason to go, you know, deep into the month.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
He's gonna have to be contributing.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Now.
Speaker 8 (33:42):
I went back and looked at all of his at
bats yesterday, and there's one where he was swinging outside
the zone, which we've watched basically for the two months
we've had him and he doesn't do that very often.
He's professional hitter. He understands what the strikes one is.
He came out of the zone once against Schoogle, which
will happen. It's a lefty on lefty match up. He's
nasty against anybody he throws against. And when you're kind
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of in a funk, you're not really seeing the ball
all that well, and you have to go against him,
you're gonna probably have a stinker a b somewhere on there.
But there's a couple others that he put good swings on,
just not quite staying through it. He's getting a little
bit pole happy. It seems like he's a pole hitter.
He's a guy that can hook that outside pitch and
hit it in the gap or out of the yard.
But I still feel good about what this guy brings
to the table. But I think if you just how
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many times do you hear it?
Speaker 6 (34:26):
Right?
Speaker 8 (34:26):
You're listening to the broadcasting, Oh, so and so his
wife had a baby yesterday and they throw for six touchdowns?
Are they end up hitting three bombs? It's all of
a sudden, Yeah, some dad strength. So I think getting
that off of his mind a little bit and just
being like Okay, she's okay, versus having it in the
back of his head could be helpful. So that's what
I did for the team, because that's I'm a team guy.
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I'll just help induce the Okay, all right, Yeah he
you welcome Seattle.
Speaker 10 (34:53):
Yeah, I mean I gave her permission after the game yesterday,
Like now, it would be a great time flight Arizona
and be back in Detroit by tuesday.
Speaker 7 (35:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Yeah, I think this is a nice little window for
that would work out perfectly. Finally, Jay us for journey.
Bucky and I are going on a journey where we
are going on the road. This can be officially announced
starting today. We're flopping, flopping hopping on a flight to
Detroit after our show today. And so when we told
you we're going to do a postgame show after every
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single Marin or playoff game this year.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
We were serious.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
So we will be in Detroit, Michigan the next couple
of nights to deliver our post game show right here
at Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM and do
the morning show as well. So a little double duty
for you throughout the postseason from Bucky and myself. So
hopefully you're checking it out. We got a lot of
nice compliments last night on the show that we did,
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including from gas Man sent one out, so we're it all.
Makes it worthwhile when people listen and can and are
appreciative of it, and so we'll do the double duty
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
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Speaker 3 (00:19):
Polumco sends this tone out and that his history.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Payoll.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Pitch to Polunco, fastball deep oor Hey Poloko, he's done.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Again to two pitch the other way. It's a fair
ball down the right field line. Torres will score. Here
comes Green and the third Joey Cora.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Giving him the way.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Here's the throw hits cut off and this game is tied.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Heart hit by rolling down the right field line.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Turns the porto and a big temple is looking for
extra basics.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Man, he's got another.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
Drive.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Brothers take three guys's clutching the.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Bouncing ball to Naylor, clips and fashes.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
In their first play off fuin in twenty four years,
the Mariners have time a series at one first.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
At home in twenty four years. Adam Amin at best
one on the calls there last night of the Mariners
three two win over the Detroit Tigers to even the
series at one game apiece. Yeah, I wasn't expecting to
lose game one and win game number two. But nonetheless,
we've arrived at a one to one draw through two
games of this five game series, and the Mariners now
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head to Detroit to take on the Tigers. Game three
we'll be tomorrow at one o'clock, and then game four
on Wednesday. It's Chuck Obuck in the Morning's here on
a Monday. What a crazy weekend for all of us
that love Seattle sports. Ashley Ryan is here, Bucky Jacobson,
former Mariners here. My name is Chuck Powell. Greg Bell's
going to join us in a moment. We haven't really
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broken down the Buccaneer Seahawks game at all so far
this morning, so we'll get that started with Greg and
Hughes on his way at eight o'clock. He'll be with
us for just an hour today, but we'll get full
hour from Hugh r QB one to break down the
Buccaneers Seahawks game as well. Let's start, though, with our
frost brewed Corps light headlines here on a choice chill Monday,
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and it does begin with the Mariners three two victory
over the Detroit Tigers last night, after blowing a two
to nothing lead in the top of the eighth. Julio
Rodriguez and Cal Rowley teamed up in the bottom of
the eighth back to back doubles, Rodriguez producing the game
winning RBI Andres Munio's closes it out in the ninth
in the MS even the series at a game apiece.
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The Yankees are down two games to none. Toronto has
absolutely whipped them in the first two games of this series,
and that series shifts to New York on Tuesday as
well at five o'clock. As the Yankees are officially operating
with their backs against the wall. The National League Division
series will continue tonight. They took Sunday off, but they'll
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have center stage tonight. Dodgers at Phillies at three o'clock.
Cubs and Brewers six o'clock start our time. That's an
eight o'clock start in the Midwest for those two teams.
College football, somehow, some way, You Dub rallied to defeat
Maryland on Saturday, twenty four to twenty. They outscored the
Turtles twenty one to nothing. In the fourth quarter. Jed
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Fish gets his first big ten road victory of his
tenure with the Huskies, and so You Dub pulls out
the win twenty four to twenty. Penn State did not.
They lost a Ucla for goodness sake over the weekend,
a win endless Bruins team that looked like they hadn't
a clue on how to play football this year. But
hand it over to a new Heizel and see what happens.
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Jerry Neweisl is suddenly the Cinderella at the ball. They're
in Ucla. Sounders won nothing winners over the Timbers on
Saturday night. The WNBA Finals continue Wednesday with the Aces
up on the Mercury two to nothing. Series shifts to Phoenix.
We are on the eve of the National Hockey League
season getting underway, and then the Kraken won't open until
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Thursday at home against the Anaheim Ducks. And finally, Buccaneers
defeat the Seahawks in a crazy game yesterday at Loomenfield,
high scoring affair thirty eight to thirty five the final score.
Joining us now to discuss it is our Seahawks insider
Greg Valley, two different major sports last night or over
the weekend.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
Mister bell Well, I thinks it was. I enjoyed the
hum out of it. Actually it was great. It's a
really unique weekend, And yes, it was really unique walking
over I have I don't ever cover a game that's
already started. And I got in the second ending of
the Mariners game, and it was really unique the view.
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I was walking across the top of the sixth floor
of the parking deck next to lewin Field, which looks
into through left field of T Mobile Park, and you
had the noise and the echoes and could hear the
roars of the fans as I walked across and then
down First Avenue into the game, and it was it
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was cool. It was a really cool and I know
fans aren't very happy this morning, but that was the
hull of a game. It was an old fashioned kingdom shootout.
I thought it was like Dan Fouts and Jim Zorn
going out in the Kingdom in the AFC West or something.
It was. It was an entertaining game, very alarming.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Yeah, we'll say that, how personal does Mike McDonald take
a game like that? Not only did he lose, but
I mean Baker Mayfield kind of had his way.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
I mean there were a.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Couple of drives that were just way too easy for
the Buccaneers on Sunday.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
Yeah, very personal. Check you said, this is my fault.
I got to prepare them better. I have to call better.
I have to have better schemes that have answers, and I
have to pressure quarterbacks better. The most damning thing right now,
the one thing they could hang their hat on right
was their defense. The defense will keep them in games,
and the offense will scratch out just enough, but the
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defense would keep them in games. Well, you remember, until
the last five six minutes at Arizona, this is the
number two defense in the league, allowing fifteen points a game.
They hadn't allowed seventeen points in any game in the
first three and then Arizona scores two touchdowns late, and
then what happened yesterday. That's in the last sixty six
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minutes of game time, the last six minutes in Arizona,
and all day yesterday, last sixty six minutes, fifty two
points teams have put up on the Mike McDonald's defense.
We saw what happens when you give quarterbacks time to throw,
or sometimes the point the quarterback gives himself time, makes
himself time to throw. Baker Makeso's tying touchdown was supposed
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to be inside the pocket, and he spun around boy
mafe and extended the play was left, throws back across
his body my approach. It wasn't even supposed to be
in the game. Third string cornerback tries to grab the
receiver and spin him around. He misses and throws himself
out of the play. Receiver wide open back of the
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end zone. Touchdown and the game was tied. And then
Donald's interception became because of a safety blips. Antoine Winfield
was unblocked up the middle. We talk all the time
about pressure up the middle just kills plays, and Donald
was trying to throw to Cooper Cup over the middle.
He didn't see Levante David go from the right side
of the defensive set to the left side. Missed that
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coverage change and the pressure men he couldn't see David
switch anyway, Paul goes off ahead of a defensive lineman
for an interception. He blamed himself, Donald for not changing
the protection call at the line to pick up that blitz.
He said they had practiced against that safety blitz, had
a couple protection calls against it. He went with one
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they had practice as well, but should have changed to
another and should have thrown it to Horton on the
right side. So they had two l's yesterday, the loss,
and then some good leadership that might last them a
long time down the road of their quarterback and their
head coach taking the blame.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
Yeah, I mean, obviously there's a lot of offense.
Speaker 8 (08:27):
Well, I mean, you know, Sam Darnold, with the exception
of that interception, looked good and yet to kind of
continue on the idea of the Seahawks defense, it didn't.
It's not just that you give up thirty eight points.
I mean, it's just the effectiveness. I think to some
degree you got to kind of give credit where credit
is due. I think the Buccaneers are pretty good, but
they didn't. They were missing some of their weapons, I mean,
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missing probably one of their best wide receivers, and they're
starting running back. And yet Baker Mayfield it looked really
easy the way in which he did it. Like you said,
I mean, I mean seven for seven to Abuka. He
basically had four incomplete passes the entire game, and most
of them looked like there was nobody even around. Some
of them fit into some decent windows. But is there
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something where they're running more zone because it just felt
like they were dicing them up like they knew what
they were going to be trying to defend them with.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Well, yeah, Bucky, they did use more zone because they
didn't trust their man coverage with all. With Witherspoon and
Chilian Love out of the game, two of the best
Pro Bowl defensive backs didn't play yesterday, and then Rieke
Wallen gets hurt, and all of a sudden, people seeing
what you don't have when Reek Wallen's not back there
you have Poe Perrie behind him of backups. Look, it
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doesn't matter who you have in the secondary. You could
have Deon Sanders and Ronnie Lot everybody else in their
prime her batterly. And if you don't pressure quarterbacks in
this league, you're done. The league rules are against defensive
backs even touching receivers down the field, and they can't
cover them for five seconds. And a lot of Buccaneers
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plays in five or more seconds, and anybody is going
to give up catches and touchdowns in that And that
was the biggest fault, And I could see it. You
could almost see Mike McDonald's gears grinding in his head
during the game of whether to blitz more or less.
He was afraid. We kept talking all season about how
when they were pressuring with four the numbers were in
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the seahawks favor of seven in coverage. Well, yesterday the
four couldn't get even close to maf Mayfield ran away
from him anyway. So then he started bringing faster defenders
on blitzes. But he was really reluctant to bring his corners.
I noticed that he was blitzing Tylecotta most of all,
and Tylecotta would just run in and get swallowed up
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by the offensive lineman. He wasn't fast enough nor big enough.
Tylecotta is not supposed to play one hundred percent of
the snaps in this defense, and that's what he played
yesterday because Julian Love was out. They he was so
reluctant to give up his corners and coverage that in
the one snap that the Anthony Bell had on defense
after Emon Worri came out briefly injured in the fourth
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quarter was late third. The one snap was a blitz
by the Anthony Bell. It was in the fourth quarter,
early in the fourth and he got a sack and
that was the only sack quarterback hit. They had two
hits one lighter in the game, but that fourth quarter
sack was the first time they even touched Mayfield, and
it was another safety blitz. Time and again when Okada
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blitzed Mayfield would throw to where ocado came from. It
was basically off one oh one offense, throw to where
the blitzer comes from over the middle. Seventeen yard cats,
twelve yard cats. I kept watching thro robinoculars thirty nine
going into the line of scrimmage and just getting swallowed
by white creamsickle jerseys every time. And McDonald did not
want to bring his corners because he was already so
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limited in guys who could cover. So he had slow,
four down linemen that couldn't get the mayfield, and he
had a little undersized, understrength, slower safety who could not
get the mayfield. Yeah, I mean you had guys the
Anthony Bell, Tyokatta Neamia Pritchard playing yesterday. It looked like
a preseason game. And what is one of the better
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quarterbacks in the league right now, a two time Pro
bowler coming off a division title, absolutely shredded him.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Greg Bell is with us our Seahawks inside. Of course,
you can follow him at GBL Seattle on x and
of course Theewstribune dot com complete round the clock coverage
of your Seattle Seahawks from Greg Bell, and he joins
us most every day at seven oh five right here
on Chuck and Buck in the mornings as our Seahawks insider. Yeah,
Baker Mayfield seems to have elevated to that level. I
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think Sam Darnold's playing at that level right now. You
know what I kept thinking about, Yeah, we lost this game,
But the real loser in all of this the Carolina Panthers.
How did they have both of those guys at one
point and ended up trading away one thousand first round
picks in order to get somebody worse.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Chuck, you're the first person in Seattle to say the
real loser of the Seahawky even stay with the Carolina Panthers.
I don't think anybody else that's a silver lining. That's
nice of you to bring up. Yes, Donald was brilliant,
and he did it largely by himself. Look at the
numbers and he said, oh, well, Kenneth Walker ran for
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eighty five yards and ten carries and they ended up
with one hundred and twenty two yards.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
Rore sick.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Most of the game they weren't running, and we saw
again that Klint Kubiak is gonna stick with it, come
help or high water, and it worked. He just kept
plugging and plugging and plugging it. Finally in the second half,
Walker started breaking some ten and twelve yard runs and
even at twenty two yard run in the third quarter.
And despite my point is that Donald did it in
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the first two and a half quarters without a run game,
and that is not how this offense is supposed to work.
Yet it worked to a tune of four hundred and
seventy six yards passing. It's not hard to imagine that
if Donald doesn't throw the interception, it doesn't get blitz uncovered,
blitz up the middle, they go down and score the
winning field goal there, right, Yeah, because they had four
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hundred seventy six yards. So yeah, if you have a
Sam Donald offense, Sam Donald completes eighty percent of his
throws for three hundred and forty six yards and four touchdowns,
you damn well have to win the game. And that's
the problem. The defense absolutely giving it all up. Again,
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they're completely decimated by injuries in the secondary, but every
team has injuries. The Buccaneers came with a larger injury
less than Scattle did Bucky pointing out rightly that his
Bucky Duck, the irving for Morgan, didn't play, and Mike Evans,
the Hall of Fame wide receiver didn't play, and a
couple of linemen didn't play. So everyone's hurt once they
start playing games. It's nature this business. It does say
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that the depth behind the starters is a problem for Seattle,
and McDonald failed in his juggling in his head of
whether the blitz or not he was inflicted. He admitted
to me after the game when I asked him that question,
that yeah, you're right. You got to pick your poison
on when to blitz and how much to blitz a
guy like Baker Mayfield, because even when you blitz, you
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might not get to him. And that's often what happened yesterday. Anyway.
Alarming is the word I keep going back to. You
get a game that good from a quarterback, Sam Donald,
and I'm not I don't think the last You can't
blame this loss on him. That last that was something
of almost a freak play. But if you have a
free blitzer up the middle, trouble's going to happen. But
(15:31):
they have to win a game that Donald leads in
the four and seventy six sharts offense.
Speaker 8 (15:36):
Yeah, well, I mean I think the other way around.
You're right, without that interception, the chances are it seemed like,
I mean, they hadn't been stopped in one, two, three, four,
five consecutives.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Yeah, maybe misses the field goal, but I think range.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 8 (15:53):
And so if it feels like you can see kind
of a silver lining on the offensive side of things,
and yet it doesn't feel very ish. It feels like
it's going to turn green if you take a shower
in it, but it'll it'll it feels like, Okay, there's
some good things you can look at there. The defensive
side of it obviously just did not step up. I
mean they had that one stop that kind of stopped
the seventh straight where they were just going back and
(16:15):
forth with touchdowns, and so, yeah, you can say depth
is not there, and yet to me it would still
feel like there's you got to expect that you're going
to have to play the depth part of it. So
is there is there changes that they're going to be
making or is this what you roll with? Is there
anything you can do to to, you know, hope that
you're better in case of not in case of, but
(16:36):
because you're going to have injuries the rest of the
season as well.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Well. It is at the moment what they're going to
have to roll with, and the hopes that Devin Witherspoon
and Julian Love can come back this weekend and Jacksonville
from their injuries and play again. It may well the
people the talk and even a thought inside their own
building that maybe we shouldn't trade Frek Willing because remember this,
I'm pretty sure this talk of teams wouldn't to get
(17:01):
interested in Woollen came first from inside the building as
they were trying to shop them. But they got a
glimpse yesterday what life could be without him, and it
looks like they can use all the serviceable corners they
can find right now. Look, it's in the biggest picture.
And I took a step back at the end of
the game yesterday and thought about this. The name of
(17:21):
the game of the NFL remains quarterback play, and if
your quarterback takes care of the ball, you win. Sam
Donald drops the ball because he gets his right tackle
pushed in him at the end in the ten yard
line and thirty seconds left against San Francisco, they lose
by four. Sam Donald throws an interception off of Guy's
helmet in the final minute, they lose by three. If
(17:44):
he holds onto the ball, they probably win both those games,
and they're undefeated. I mean, despite the defense's problems. If
the quarterback takes care of the ball and the clutch,
they win. If Sam Donald becomes cal Rawly and j
Rodriguez in the clutch in either of those two games,
they win. But yet, having said that, you can't blame
(18:06):
yesterday's loss on him. So that's how narrow the margin
is for this team, with the defense that they has
no depth in the blitz that doesn't blitz, and the
pressure living with just four front four providing the pressure
that spell running out the margins of finn For a
lot of teams in the NFL, that's the nature of
(18:27):
this business. Ask the Baltimore Ravens right now. So look,
the sky's not falling. It's week five. They're three and
two in a division where the leader is four and one,
and they still play their division foes, the forty nine
ers again. They still play the Rams two more times.
They've already beaten the Cardinals and the bigger picture, yesterday
(18:49):
doesn't really damage any bigger longer term prospects. It's just
so alarming that the bedrock of the team, the defense,
got absolutely torched.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Right.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Well, we got a lot more ground to cover with
all of this, but we'll have to spread it out
during a week of baseball. So thank you sir, great stuff.
Is always good to see you over the weekend, and
we'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Yeah, before I got some face to face. Yeah, Ookie,
I think I saw you even the third deck last night.
I think you're on the jumbo tron at one point.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (19:19):
Uh No, I don't think I was ever in the
third deck. Just another like chubby, redheaded guy. Is that
what you're saying?
Speaker 9 (19:26):
No, no, no, no, A wife and a kid ball
glancing up at that with you. No, you don't slum
in the third deck. I'm sorry to yees there.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Sometimes man, I don't know. Now I can see I
can see them one in both games of Detroit and
not even coming back. They're just there's something.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
That's what I'm predicting.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
Yeah, what's going to happen?
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Yeah, happy Monday.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Thanks, good all right, Greg, Thank you Sea Hawks. Inside
of Greg Bell joining us right here on Chugging Bug
in the morning. All Right, Factor Fiction coming up at
seven thirty five. We'll also talk about a really pivotal
moment that felt eerily the same on Saturday and Sunday
for Dan Wilson. That's coming up next. Sports Radio ninety
three point three KJRFM. All right, we are three and
(20:29):
nine minutes away from Factor Fiction. Our first pick of
the week. Ashley's got the pick today, So seven thirty
five your chance to win one thousand dollars from Lucky
Eagle Casino and Hotel. Of course, more Mariners talk coming
your way in the nine o'clock hour today. We'll just
do one hour of Monday Morning Quarterback with you Millen
today from eight to nine. No coach with us. Ryan
Healey will be with us at nine thirty to talk Mariners.
(20:52):
We also have ABC's of the m's coming your way
before the end of the hour. But certainly an interesting
thing occurred in the two games. A loss on Saturday,
a win on Sunday. Deja vu moment for first year
postseason manager Dan Wilson, as on Saturday he decided to
stick with his starter and on Sunday he decided to
(21:13):
go to the reliever in almost an eerily similar situation
fifth inning, both starting pitchers throwing shutouts. At that point,
we know how much faith we have in our starting
pitching here with Seattle. But on Saturday, with Kerry Carpenter,
Mariner Killer, coming to the plate, he decided to stick
(21:34):
with George, and certainly Carpenter killed us again a two
run homer, and it kind of changed the way that
game was played. The very next night, same situation, two outs,
two on bottom of the fifth, Carpenter coming to the plate.
Dan Wilson decides to go to the bullpen, and Gabe
Spire strikes out Carpenter in the most beautiful moment perhaps
(21:54):
of the entire evening, and you go on and win
that game. I think it was a bit bucky. As
we discussed this on both of the postgame shows, an
admission of guilt, mission of a mistake by Dan Wilson
to go the opposite way on Sunday. Frankly, I think
he should have gone the Spire in both of those
situations over the week.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
Yeah, well, I'm sure that he's probably thinking that too.
Right now.
Speaker 8 (22:18):
You don't know sliding doors and you don't know how
things could possibly change.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
It was you know it was It'd be one thing
if it looked like.
Speaker 8 (22:28):
If it looked like Georgia was getting tired possibly or
pitch count was really getting up there. That wasn't it,
And he made some good pitches. It was just a
better swing by Kerry Carpenter. But I think, yeah, the
idea of I'm one that I like you kind of
going gut field, not just stats, not just sabermetrics, but
at the same time, in the playoffs, more often than not,
(22:48):
you're going to use an extra guy or two or
three out of the bullpen. And so, I mean, he
said in his post game yesterday that it was going
to be weird possibly having to go out there and
poll Castillo having not giveing up a hit yet.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Yeah, but that.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
Means he was already kind of resigned to the fact
that we're going matchups, right, you just can't go with well,
I think he still has more in the tank. You
do that in April, you do it in May, you
do it in June. You will say, no, we need
to get five plus out of our starter. If he's
pitching well enough, we're okay with giving up a run.
But yesterday's game, after dropping the first one, and then
(23:22):
you're going against Trek Scugle, who's going you know, tit
for tat with with Luis Castillo. As far as the
zero's they were putting up, you're basically feeling like, no,
we can't let an opportunity slide. We can't go out
there and and think, oh, maybe we can get past
this one. You got to do what you think is
the best, regardless of what it means. I mean, you
(23:43):
end up pulling You end up pulling Castillo out after
only eighty five pitches, essentially, but he would he had
been working really hard in those eighty five pitches. It
wasn't like he was breezing through things. I mean his
first inning was almost thirty pitches. He was his pitch
can't was getting up there quick. Now he settled in
and got enough outs to where you didn't have to
use six or seven different guys from the bullpen. But
(24:03):
that was a prime time to bring him in, and
I'm glad that it worked out the way did.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
A lesson learned is you have to manage these games
differently than you did during the regular season. And I
think Dan Wilson learned a really valuable lesson on Saturday
and applied it immediately on Sunday. All right, let's play
some factor fiction. We're set to go. Glad you're with us.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
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Speaker 4 (24:42):
All right, well, it's Ashley's pick this morning, as we
are going to try to give away one thousand dollars
again this week. Ashley, where are we going today?
Speaker 10 (24:51):
Well, we are going to go to the Monday night
football game, because you know I love some immediate gratification.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
I like doing that.
Speaker 11 (24:56):
Let's tell a little extra something tonight.
Speaker 10 (24:59):
I was looking the spread, I think yesterday maybe, and
by the time I got here this.
Speaker 11 (25:04):
Morning, it went a little bit more in my favor.
Speaker 10 (25:06):
So it is the Jaguars hosting the Chiefs, the Jaguars
getting four points, So why don't you give me Jacksonville
plus the four? Oh okay, they give me them plus
the four at home against the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
All right. That means the kans City Chiefs have to
win by four points or more because, believe me, you'll
get hurt by a push.
Speaker 11 (25:29):
Yep, I did two two pushes, last two pushes.
Speaker 10 (25:32):
Yeah, because it was a four point spread in the
Minnesota Cleveland game too.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Gosh, that's there should be an asterisk.
Speaker 11 (25:39):
Yeah, right, because we didn't basically get them wrong.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Yeah, exactly, we would have gotten our money back at
the window. All right, Well, Ashley's gonna go ahead and
go with the Jacksonville Jaguars, and so the Kansaity Chiefs
will have to win by four points or more in
order for Ashley to be wrong. If you think the
game ends up in another then you're gonna go ahead
and text fact to four nine four five one. Text
(26:04):
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If you're right, we start this process all over again
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where every day feels lucky. All right, Ashley's going with
Jacksonville Plus four tonight against the Kansas City Chiefs, and
(27:12):
that game is played in North Florida, whereas Flaaridians call
it South Georgia. They don't really like to claim Jacksonville
in Florida. And that weird? Is weird? Yeah?
Speaker 11 (27:25):
Really there's a lot.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Of Yeah, like you got stuffed to brag Jacksonville's the problem,
Like you got stuff to brag about Tampa?
Speaker 10 (27:32):
Yeah, have you read the news? Do you read the
If you go online and search dumb news, I guarantee.
There's seven Florida stories that pop up, no.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Question about it. All right, So that's the pic. And yes,
so what did we do then over the weekend? I
know we got at least one right, right.
Speaker 10 (27:47):
We got two rights, so we come down as in
Giants game, correct, Okay.
Speaker 11 (27:52):
And it was also.
Speaker 7 (27:54):
The the under that you picked.
Speaker 11 (27:56):
On fred Ye under. Yeah, the Giants at New Orleans
under forty two.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Oh, we went two and three, so we have a
losing when we had.
Speaker 11 (28:02):
Two pushes, Yeah, two and three.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Five the way Michigan State was like up with like
five minutes to go and ended up losing by eleven.
And I had pushed.
Speaker 10 (28:11):
Cleveland was in a good spot. They were looking to
be in a good ser right, you're right.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
I just chaps my ass, I know. All right, Next
chance to play some Factor fiction comes your way at
eleven thirty five this morning with MJ and with Kid
coming up next the ABC's of the MS here on
a Monday Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. So
it'll just be isolated Hugh mel and we're gonna go
ISO on him.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
Nice.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Yeah, from eight to nine, he'll break down your Seahawks
loss to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers yesterday out at Loomin
thirty eight to thirty five. But plenty to talk about,
that's for sure. But of course, Mariners, we've just scratched
the surface this morning on this topic, and the ABC's
of the MS will allow us to journey preps into
(28:55):
a couple of different different directions. We left off of
the letter H on Friday, HS for homers, Hora Polonko
mustling up against Trek's schooble. Where would we be without
Hora Polanco's homers yesterday? Oh, thank goodness, thank goodness all
a Blagos he had.
Speaker 8 (29:15):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, thank god he's been that they
brought him back after last year's subpar season.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
Because he's been. He's been a godsend for for this
team the entire season.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Halanders said this Hus for Hollander, he said, I don't
know if I could live with because he almost went
HUS for Houston. He almost went to the Astros. Can
you imagine that I'd wanted Horray Polanco for years finally
get him. He has a bad year for us, We
would have let him go. He goes to Houston and
probably is the difference in the American League West. Yeah, yeah,
(29:48):
that would be so Mariners.
Speaker 7 (29:49):
Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 8 (29:51):
And it was close, It was close to happen, and
I know that was the team that he was talking to,
and he actually wanted to come back and redeem himself
and feel good about the way they played last year.
Battle on injuries and just couldn't get out of basically
a season long funk that he was in. So yeah,
he comes back this year, has to battle with injuries
right off the bat and you know, not being able
(30:11):
to hit right handed for whatever reason was going on
with his side, and yet yesterday a couple bombs right
handed against the best lefty in the game right now,
one of the best pitchers period, and it's just you're
gonna have to do that. Like, going into the game,
it kind of felt like, all right, who's going yard today,
somebody's got to run into one. He's not perfect. He'll
still make mistakes, just like any pitcher will. It's the
(30:33):
difference between a guy like that going eight innings and
shutting you out and winning the ballgame is whether or
not you have somebody that capitalizes on the mistake. And
he made a couple of mistakes to him and made
I think it was a slider the first pitch and
he's he's got a good swing or hey. He brings
that professional aspect where he stays in the zone a
long time.
Speaker 7 (30:52):
That's why he uses the entire field.
Speaker 8 (30:54):
And you have to have that against a guy like
Trek School because all this stuff is hard and it
has crazy movement, and so you're not going to arrive
perfectly on time very often. If you can stay in
the zone longer. Now, if that slider hits a big
part of the plate, you have a good chance of
barrowing it up.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
He does that with the first.
Speaker 8 (31:10):
One and then comes back and then turns on another
one for that second home run. And that it felt
like breathing room. It felt like the breathing room that
you needed. Yeah, I mean it felt like I mean,
I just felt I was doing math with Ian Furness
up there. So you know what, right now, if we
can get one more, we'll take.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
His shoes off, so get kind of stoes.
Speaker 8 (31:31):
Uh Nope, nope, I said, I feel good right now
with the way that this is setting up for our bullpen,
and you know the back end of our bullpen.
Speaker 7 (31:40):
But I'd feel twice as good if we could get
another run.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Here.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
See that's the math. I was doing what really so
like two?
Speaker 4 (31:46):
He kept it to two if you had to go
on to eleven or more Canadian struggle. I brought this
up to Bucky. I have not brought it up to
Ashley or on this morning show. But you know what
probably Bucky and I get the most grief for, and
we take a lot of grief for our Mariners analysis,
is when we talk about it being a long season. Okay,
(32:08):
that's probably what we get the most grief for here
in our analysis. Well, if Horri Polonko is not an example,
and we talked about this last night with the postgame
show of how long of a season earlier this year,
he could not hit against left handed pitchers. They wouldn't
allow it, no matter how bad the left handed pitcher was.
(32:31):
Horriy Polanka was killing right handers, and yet because of
his injury, if a left he came into the game,
we would take him out of the game. And that
lasted for about a month. That's how we dealt with
Horray Polanko in our lives. And then what happens in
the most important game of the year to date. He
hit two homers right handed off of the best left
(32:55):
handed pitcher in the world. If that's not a long season,
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 10 (33:00):
It's like he had like five seasons within a season.
It is true, And I would say also, H is
for Hallelujah, thank you for Jorge.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Yes, I is for induce. What do you think, gang,
do we induce missus Naylor? Let's just get this baby
out of the way so we don't have to worry
about it Tuesday and Wednesday? Is that what we do
with our sports love? We just we induced labor?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (33:20):
Well, I don't know if this was a good idea,
but I did send her an edible arrangement that was
laced with potosinh. Yeah, we'll just go ahead and get
this show on the road, because Naylor's a guy that
we're gonna need to be Josh Naylor if you want
to you want this ride, this roller coaster of a
postseason to go, you know, deep into the month.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
He's gonna have to be contributing.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Now.
Speaker 8 (33:42):
I went back and looked at all of his at
bats yesterday, and there's one where he was swinging outside
the zone, which we've watched basically for the two months
we've had him and he doesn't do that very often.
He's professional hitter. He understands what the strikes one is.
He came out of the zone once against Schoogle, which
will happen. It's a lefty on lefty match up. He's
nasty against anybody he throws against. And when you're kind
(34:03):
of in a funk, you're not really seeing the ball
all that well, and you have to go against him,
you're gonna probably have a stinker a b somewhere on there.
But there's a couple others that he put good swings on,
just not quite staying through it. He's getting a little
bit pole happy. It seems like he's a pole hitter.
He's a guy that can hook that outside pitch and
hit it in the gap or out of the yard.
But I still feel good about what this guy brings
to the table. But I think if you just how
(34:25):
many times do you hear it?
Speaker 6 (34:26):
Right?
Speaker 8 (34:26):
You're listening to the broadcasting, Oh, so and so his
wife had a baby yesterday and they throw for six touchdowns?
Are they end up hitting three bombs? It's all of
a sudden, Yeah, some dad strength. So I think getting
that off of his mind a little bit and just
being like Okay, she's okay, versus having it in the
back of his head could be helpful. So that's what
I did for the team, because that's I'm a team guy.
(34:48):
I'll just help induce the Okay, all right, Yeah he
you welcome Seattle.
Speaker 10 (34:53):
Yeah, I mean I gave her permission after the game yesterday,
Like now, it would be a great time flight Arizona
and be back in Detroit by tuesday.
Speaker 7 (35:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Yeah, I think this is a nice little window for
that would work out perfectly. Finally, Jay us for journey.
Bucky and I are going on a journey where we
are going on the road. This can be officially announced
starting today. We're flopping, flopping hopping on a flight to
Detroit after our show today. And so when we told
you we're going to do a postgame show after every
(35:22):
single Marin or playoff game this year.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
We were serious.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
So we will be in Detroit, Michigan the next couple
of nights to deliver our post game show right here
at Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM and do
the morning show as well. So a little double duty
for you throughout the postseason from Bucky and myself. So
hopefully you're checking it out. We got a lot of
nice compliments last night on the show that we did,
(35:46):
including from gas Man sent one out, so we're it all.
Makes it worthwhile when people listen and can and are
appreciative of it, and so we'll do the double duty
for you and you just keep on listening, all right,
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