October 8, 2025 • 34 mins
RYON HEALY joins the show to give us his thoughts on the Mariners Game 3 win last night. What was Ryon’s biggest takeaway from last night’s Game 3 win? Is this roster built to win in the playoffs? They have so many ways they can win, how versatile are they? What do you do with Caleb Ferguson? How confident are we all feeling about Game 4? :30- AL KINISKY (Kraken Audio Network color analyst) joins the show on the eve of the 2025 Kraken Hockey season. With the Kraken hosting the Ducks tomorrow night, we get Al’s thoughts on this 2025 team, including the 3 goaltenders. :45- We close out the show with one last thing!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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of this possible. And so we continue our coverage right
here on the radio program with the guy that we
have added to our lineup, and here in Detroit. I'm
not sure what's going on with our zoom calls. But
we can't see you, Ryan, but I can see you.
(00:20):
You can't see me, but I can see that Ryan
Heally is joining the radio program. So former Mariner Ryan Healey,
who's turned into quite the key part of our postseason coverage,
joins us right here on Chuck and Back. I right,
good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
How's everyone doing.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We're doing all right. Not a bad way to win
a game last night. Eight for the final score. What
was your biggest takeaway? I don't always like to just
direct an analyst. I like to sort of give you
a chance to paint your beautiful canvas however you want.
What was your biggest takeaway from that win last night?
Logan Gilbert showed up Philip his own.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I thought he attacked the left He's from mendously with
the combination of the slider and split finger, kept him
off balance, kept him uncomfortable. That's the most uncomfortable that
I've seen carry Carpenter look this entire series and honest
his entire playoffs. The bats showed up. I felt like
everyone put together productive at bats, even guys like Josh Naylor,
who unfortunate went zero for five. He still hit a
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ball to right center field with runners on first and
second that was murdered, and then he had a twelve
pitch at bat early in the game when Flaherty was
kind of cruised and that was the first bump in
the road. There was just productive at bats up and
down this lineup, and I thought the defense played really clean,
the pitching execute. I mean, this is this is Mariner's Baseball.
Is what we need to do, dude, if we want
to win the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Well, I think it's twenty twenty five Mariners Baseball. I
wanted to ask you specifically this today because this is
something that we've talked about as a show here in
the past. I think what's most encouraging about this particular
roster is that I think they can win just about
any way. And that doesn't mean that they're gonna win
every single game out there, but over the course of
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a five game series or better, yet a seven game series.
Their ability to outscore you if they need to, or
to lean on a dominant pitching performance, or maybe even
outscrap you, play the small game a little bit, steal
some bases, move some base runners, which is something they
have struggled with severely over the last couple of years.
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I think that's the most encouraging thing about this roster
is that they can win a game like last night.
They can win a game like Game number two, w's
three to two nail bider. It just feels to me
that they have so many options to win a baseball game,
and that might not win in a particular game, it
might not show up that night, but over the course
of a five game stretch or a better yet a
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seven game stretch man, that is a weapon to have
to be able to win in a number of ways.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
What do you think of that, Chuck? That was really
well said, and I agree with you. This team is
versatile and they have different superstars and just quality depth
of positions of defense, pitching, an offense that can step
up at different parts of the game. And you look
at last night. I mean, Polonka was the hero when
we faced Terrex Google the other night. Then you look
at Roeblizz had a big double to get the rally
going early, drove a ball at the right center. I
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just this team looked lighter to me yesterday. I felt
like the I don't want to say the word burdings,
it's not appropriate, but the pressure of playing at home
and like getting that first playoff home win in twenty
four years. We talked about it. That was playing heavy
for those couple of games at home and to get
that win. They looked lighter yesterday when I saw them.
And to be able to weather that that you know,
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rain delate they were going through. That was a long delay.
I'm sitting here looking for updates any and everywhere, and
the only person providing something for me is Bucky, thank goodness.
And he found some whiskey and pumpkin apparently cocktail that
was out in a bouts and I was like, all right,
they're not playing yet. I'm not missing it. But this
team looked lighter. I felt like they kept the fans
out of it. They showed up a little bit in
the ninth when they got a rally going, but by
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that point we had Senor Smoke waiting. I didn't want
to use him. But if he needed a nine pitch
touch and field yesterday in that game to stay involved,
then I'm okay with it.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah. Heally, how important is it when you feel like
the depth of your lineup creates a sense of lightness
if you will to where you don't have to feel
like I gotta get it done or we're not going
to get it done. Because we've watched that for years
with this offense and yew now the length in this
lineup kind of creates a sense of freedom. I think
maybe lightness the way you put it, I mean, how
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important is that, especially when the moment gets as big
as it does in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
That's a great point, Bucky, And I think as a
as an offensive player, outs can feel like almost in
your death experience. Sometimes with twister runners and scoring position.
The game's getting later, the pressure is starting to build.
Every single time you make an out and don't come
through your team, it feels like the end of the world.
And I didn't feel that yesterday. I felt almost like energy.
And I talk about Josh Naylor a lot too, because
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you know he hasn't had that first hit, But when
when JT. Crawford hit his home run who was in
the tops bet to the top step, cheering over the rail,
pointing at JPS. He's rounding first. There's ways to transfer energy,
good and bad, to throughout your teammates. And I feel
like right now, regardless of if someone's coming through or not,
they're transferring positive energy to the next guy and then
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they're coming through for them. And also cal Rawly's just
leading from the front right now, the way that he's
executing not just home runs but base hits. He is
leading from the front and the rest of following suit
and really contributing well.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Brian Healy is whether it's former Mariner third baseman and
first baseman DH on the squad and he joins us
here on the radio program. He's joining us throughout the
postseason to cover some Mariners playoff baseball. Here Mariners win
it last night by a final score of eight to four,
and so here you've got an opportunity, Ryan to close
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this thing out today. Do you go after it like
it is a Game five? I mean, you've got scooball
on get in Game five. Sure it's at home, but
I would imagine the Mariners would like to avoid that.
So do you today, Bryce Miller's start, a bullpen that
everybody could pitch today. Do you kind of treat it
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like not a must win, but let's just close it
out today and we're going to We're gonna do whatever
it takes to win this game.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
That's a great question for the managers in the front
of office making decisions pre game as they're kind of
navigating what the pitching is gonna look like. Obviously, we
know Bryce Miller's gonna start, but based off of the
seasons he had, we're assuming there's gonna be a pretty
quick hook in there. They left Gilbert in there yesterday
in the fifth inning when Carper came up a game
with first and third. That's happened almost every game in
the fifth inning, like carry Carpenter's up with first and third.
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But I feel like they will be more aggressive, not
because it's a must win, but because there's an off
day to follow and travel day. I believe that's correct
they're playing. They would play Game five at home with
an off day, so they would have rest for the bullpen.
So I think they're gonna exhaust the arms and the
bullpen today and if they see opportunities to bring different
bodies in they will. I don't like saying must win,
but you might see more aggressive managerial decisions today, especially
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in the pitching side.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, one hundred percent. What do you say to a dude,
a teammate, I mean, the team goes out. There was
a really solid all around game. Not that everybody contributed,
but for the most part, you had guys at the
bottom and guys at the top that contributed offensively and
good pitching from everyone except for Caleb Ferguson. I mean,
what are you saying as a teammate to him, because
you're still going to need him if you end up
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wanting to see this ride last for the rest of
this month, you're gonna need him to come out. There
was this just one where he's kind of a soft guy.
He pitches the contact, gets a lot of ground balls.
You hope they go to somebody or was this something
that you're thinking, You know what, dude, you're kind of
getting bumped down. We're not going to be able to
bring you in in any high leverage situation based on
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how poor you your outcome was yesterday.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
That's a great question, and they can go one of
two ways. They can completely write them off and say
before we're gonna forget about you, or it's a really
great opportunity to reinforce some confidence into a pitcher, especially
a lefty that you're gonna need down the stretch here
and the lefties matchups out of the bullpen have been
really important for this This lefty heavy Tigers line up here.
So I don't I don't see that happening, meaning writing
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them off. They'll be very strategic of when that opportunity comes.
Obviously the Spiers been the guy that is hired leverage.
But if I'm them, I'm I'm If I'm Dan Wilson,
I'm trying to get Ferguson in there today. Depending on
what the game is flowing like and looking like the quicker,
you get him back on the horse and more comfortably
he is. I mean, that escalated really quickly on him,
and I'm not gonna sit here and say he pitched terrible.
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It was a knock and then a walk, and then
the double by torkals In and then another knock, and
it's like, Wow, that escalated really quickly. That's so quickly
the stuff can happen in the game. It's not because
he's a bad pitcher. That was just the last little
bit of fight that the Tigers had. Unfortunately Ferguson was
on the receiving end of it.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Well, I liked zam used as he was acquired. You're
a specialty guy. That was not a specialty situation last night.
I'd rather use the point Jackson there quite frankly, I
mean good point.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Criticize an eight to four win, but I'd have gone
with Luke Jackson there with a seven run lead, and
let's get Ferguson back to being used the way that
he's supposed to be used, and that's in the middle
of an inning against a left hand or to either
take that left handed hit or out of the game,
or to get out of the inning, and then with
a fresh new inning, you bring in somebody who is
a little more versatile. So I just thought, this seems
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hyper critical after a win like that.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
But I thought that was a misuse of Ferguson last night. Brian,
I don't want to say it's hypercritical. I think that's
it's probably over aggressive. I would say that's realistic. It's
the reality of what is that picture's mentality, and what
are his strengths and how do we maximize the situations
that we have available throughout the game to give that
picture the best opportunity to succeed. It's an eight to
one game, that's the one. Is Ferguson thrown a blowout?
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If he's been a high leverage situational arm, you're not
throwing him into the situation. It's kind of like when
you see a closer in a blowout game and he
has a pitch for four days, Hey, we gotta get
him some work and we're up or we're down, and
they come out there and they get shelled. It's because
the mind the mentality in the mindset is not it's
not matched with what the situated situation handles. And these pictures,
the relievers especially, they use so much adrenaline to perform
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in those moments and execute to find that extra level
of focus they need to operate. And there's no shot
that Ferguson had that after a three hour rain delay
and eight to one score, and you know Marrior's now
heading towards a clinch, like there's no way the Mines
was one hundred and ten percent locked in on the
task at hand.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Well, you've been to Detroit before, so we don't have
to ask you about that. I mean, you've had the
Detroit experience, you've been through a rain delay before, you've
won a big game before. But I do want to
ask you, based off something you said a little bit earlier,
have you ever drank whiskey out of a pumpkin shell?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I have not, but I might put that on my
fall to do list. It feels like if pumpkin spice
lotpes can be a thing, why can't I have some
whiskey out of a pumpkin.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I'll tell you this, it was very popular. I mean,
they were out of pumpkin shells before the game even
Sorry now granted there was a three hour rain delay,
but out of pumpkin shells before the game even started
last night.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
You think in session sales they were meeting before the
games anything, and we got to double what we brought
today at the pumpkin shells because that was a hot
ticket yesterday.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I think I know what to do next, Jack and
cocoa lanterns.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Oh yeah, okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah, that's the next way to Jack Daniels, oh lanterns
something like that. Yeah, all right, hey man, great stuff again.
As always, do you feel good about Game four? And
finishing this thing off today.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Percent I like the energy the bats are gonna carry us.
There's some guys that haven't contributed yet that I think
they're gonna break loose, and I'm really excited to watch
that through because everyone else is already ready to support.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
All Right, you're the man. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
How about that?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Can't wait for it? Go ems all right?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Ryan Helick joining us right here on Chucking Buck in
the Mornings as as we celebrate an eight four victory
here live from Detroit with Ryan Healy there on the
old zoom call. He's right there was the middle of
the order didn't even contribute. You had an eight run
effort and the middle of your order did nothing. They
came up snake eyes last night, including the heroes of
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Game number two, Julio and Polanco. Even we're empty and
we're still waiting for Josh Naylor to get going. But
when you get the contributions like you did from the
bottom of the order, which is something I repeated a
lot yesterday throughout our broadcast day, I kind of felt
like we were going to get some contributions, but more
than contributions, Bucky, we got just pure damage from the
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bottom of the order. Six of the eight runs scored
were from hitters six through nine in that game last night. Man,
you get that on this team, with this pitching, you're
winning every single game that you play, regardless of opponent.
And so it's just as it's the roster is set
up so well. They're just so many ways that they
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can win a baseball game.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
They really do. I mean, there's good signs and bad signs.
I said it earlier, and I think that it's something
that it's always sticks in my head of how good
or how bad is anything, any given thing, any pitch,
any bat contact. It doesn't always boil down to just
what the outcome is. Now, outcomes matter because I don't
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care if you just have twenty seven good at bats,
if you get no hit, it was not very good.
It wasn't good enough. That said, I think this team
kind of has the feel right now. You heard it
from Polonka when you interviewed him that anybody can be
the hero in any given night. And yet that means
that they don't have to go up there trying to
be the hero. You go up there to have a
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good ab and you might end up being the dude
that gets the thing started, like robusted, or then you know,
gets that knock, the little I mean signature swing of
JP's where it kind of almost gets jammed a little
bit and hits a little filet out there into left
field or left center field that gets the scoring started.
A Rose Arena backs it up. It's all of a sudden,
like once that contagious part of hitting starts going, everybody
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chips in on it. Well, you're still going to I've
been on the end where I'm the guy that goes
four for four or I'm the one guy that goes
zero for five and everybody else we scored fifteen runs.
I don't care. You don't care if you right now,
I can promise you Hulu, Rodriguez, Polonco and Naylor, who
hasn't gotten a hit in the entire series, none of
them are feeling sorry for themselves because they're one game
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away and they all feel like, today's my day. Today,
I'm gonna go do it. Watch and I wouldn't be
surprised if that threesome just goes off today.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Who knows, Well, there's some fluky things that happen in sports.
There's some outlier stuff that happens in sports. Baseball can
be crazy. It's a postseason is unpredictable as any postseason
in American professional sports, there's no question about it. But
the longer these series gets, more often the cream's going
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to rise to the top. And maybe we're seeing that
happen right before our eyes. I mean, yeah, it's an
unpredictable thing until it is predictable. Jack Flaherty yesterday a
very predictable outing for him. He is somebody that has
really good stuff, and his numbers suggest that he should
have had a better season than what he had for
the Detroit Tigers. I mean, low opponent's batting a bridge
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against high strikeouts, low walks, and yet a high eer.
What does that tell you about Jack Flaherty is when
he does give up damage, he gives it up in clusters.
And that's exactly what the Mariners took advantage of. Meanwhile,
Logan Gilbert more often than not just gives you a
steady eddy performance, and he gave you that last night
for six strong innings. I even sort of suggested to
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Cal that maybe he wasn't as sharp in the first
two innings, and Cal said.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Nope, you're wrong.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
He was sharp from pitch number one. Now, would you
please get out of my face, my face of the franchise. Yeah, no,
he didn't. He didn't get angry with me at all.
But yes, it was sort of predictable. I mean, that's
the kind of game that Tiger fans are worried about
from Flaherty, and it's the kind of game that Mariner
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fans are almost to the point of expecting out of Logan.
And now that we have this offense that can show
up and score eight runs in a night, man, it
really does add another weapon. I mean, it's like, Okay,
you've got a knife, but when you had a gun,
you know, you got probably a better chance of coming
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out of the war with that. All right, Coming up
next on the other side, here Chucking Buck Live from
Detroit to Al Kaniski knows what it's like to come
to hockey town. So we're on the eve of the
Krakens season opener at home against Anaheim, and it's our
first official conversation of the year with Kracking color analysts
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Al Koniski next on Chuck and Bucks Sports Radio ninety
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it means.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Yeah, that makes Yeah, no one knows, but it's provocative.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
You.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
You're right, Maybe no one does know, but I'm pretty
sure Kid rock Detroit. Kid, I think babwa taba means
we're going down, and yeah I hear that.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, yep, yeah, yep.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Right here, yep, Sorry about it, Kid, That is your
real name.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
It's not our It is his real name, Christopher Kidd.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Definitely Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
A little bit later on, Bucky and I are here
in Detroit, Michigan. Some people call it Motown, other people
call it the Motor City. There are some people out
in the world, like our next guest, that probably know
it as hockey Town. Something tells me that Alkonisky has
punched a person in this city before. It's just my guest.
It's just my guest. But joining us now on the
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program is our color analyst for your Seattle Cracking, who
start their season tomorrow. Al Canisky is with us. Ow
We're a fired up to have you back for another season.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
I'm fired up too, boys, I'm excited. And you know,
even though you're in Detroit to it feels like you're
right around the corner. As per usual, We've got you know,
opening night coming up here. Tomorrow night, and I can
tell you I'm excited. Ever it's excited, Benton's excited, and
we're ready to go.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Every hockey guy's got to have a Detroit store. Do
you have a Detroit story that you could share with
us out before we start talking cracking hockey.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
Well, the Detroit story is actually tied back to Canada,
and it's my homeland. It's not a personal story, but
I always think it's fascinating how close Detroit is to
Canada and you and I hear a lot of people
talk about going across the border, which I mean, what
is it thirty minutes twenty minutes away? But it's a
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very different experience when you go across the border into
Toronto versus versus a Detroit in terms of you know,
Canadians and food and maybe not so much weather, but
people don't lock their doors. It's it's it's quite quite
a yin and yang from from Detroit.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I want you, at some point in the future to
define canadianness.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yeah, so we're gonna have you do that.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
Tell you I can't do that now.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
We're going to pin you down to that in the future.
But today we got too much to talk about. So
I know you're fired up for the season getting underway tomorrow.
Why is that, Why are you excited for this year's
Kracking team.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
I'm excited because of the changes that were made in
the offseason. We can talk about coaching, we can talk
about players that came in, players that went out, we
can talk about a three goalie competition for you know,
who's going to be one, who's going to be two,
and who's not going to be one or two. I
think all of those things lead to a better hockey
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team that should be competing for a playoff spot come April.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yeah, I'm with you on that. I'll go to one
of those. Then the three goalie thing, I mean, obviously,
a long time ago, it was everybody had one guy
and then they had a backup for if needed. And
now it's moved more into the kind of a goalie
by committee. A couple guys, what is the benefit of
having three or is this really Joe to Coords the incumbent,
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and then it's Grew and the other kid that are
going to be fighting to see who is the backup.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
Well, it's a couple of things. And starting with a
new goaltending coach and Collins Uliano, who you know, some
of these guys know better better than others, which which
is always a good way to start. But in terms
of the competition itself, Seattle is one of six teams
that are starting the season with three goaltenders. And it's not,
you know, it's not like, hey, teams that don't have
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a shot at making the playoffs are going to carry
three goaltenders to see what No, it's not that at all.
In fact, some of the other teams include Tampa Bay,
include Colorado, include Carolina, And I think what it is
is you've got three good quality choices and you're not sure,
you're sure yet who the two best are going to be.
How do you figure that out? Well, you keep them
around a little bit longer and you get into some
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regular season games. I'd be shocked if we still had
three goaltenders on the on the roster come January first.
So I think that this first month of October where
Seattle's going to face a ton of top playoff teams
from last year, including Vegas, including Edmonton twice, Toronto, Washington,
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like they're going to get tested these goaltenders, and I
think you're going to see each of them get some
games in the month of October and come Halloween, we're
going to have a pretty good sense of who number
one is and who number two is. But if not,
we might push that into November. But I don't think
it goes much beyond that where we're carrying three goaltenders.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Alcaniski is with US color analyst for yours Seattle Crack
and they start the season tomorrow at home against Anaheim.
And you have complete coverage right here with Everett, with
Al with Mike Bnton, with Ian Ferness, cast of thousands
that got you covered for opening night. It's going to
be a special occasion. You dropped it right in the
middle of a divisional series in Major League Baseball, and
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yet it's as if God ordained for the divisional series
to take the night off for the Kraken to debut
in twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six. You know a
lot of talk over the first few years of this
organization's existence about do they have a superstar player? Is
there one close? And there seems to be a big
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question mark about that going into this year. Maybe Jared
McCann's never going to reach superstar status. Al Is Shane
wright somebody that could achieve that in the near future,
as early as this year. Is Maddy Benier's ever going
to turn into that player? What is your outlook on
whether or not the Kraken are going to have a
(22:23):
special player on the ice this year?
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Well, I think in the second half of the season
one of the conversations we'll be having is who has
the higher ceiling in terms of offensive potential? Is it
Shane Right, is it Maddy Benaer's And you know, maybe
down the road. I don't think it will be this season,
but is it Berkeley Cat? You are really strong up
the middle on the offensive offensive lines. I think in
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terms of Jared McCann and even Jordan Eberley for that matter,
last season injuries plagued them a bit. If those two
can stay healthy through this season, I think they could
make the guys that I just spoke of down the
middle be better hockey players. And you know, health is
obviously an important part of any team's success. I think
that if this team can stay healthy, then you're going
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to see McCann scoring more goals. You're going to see
Everly scoring more goals. You're going to see those two
leaders helping the youth on this team, Yannie Newman for
the games that Berkeley Caton ends up playing. So in
terms of high end offensive talent, I think in the
January to March timeframe, we're going to be talking a
lot about Shane Wright's season, the impact that Kappo Coaco
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has on a full twelve months, She's been a full season.
Once he gets back on the ice, it's going to
be interesting to see. I think that that again askis
next to the word health. If you've got these guys
playing a full eighty eighty one eighty two games this season,
they all have a high upside potential.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Do you have anything special planned yourself personally? I mean,
it's a special night for the kracking for yourself, for
the entire crew. But I don't know if you buy
new pants or anything for the upcoming hockey season.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Hey guys, I just hope my pants fit. Let alone
buy new ones. It was a long summer and a
lot of brisket and and enjoyment and golf feed and
that sort of thing, so I gotta shed a few
pounds to make sure those suits still fit.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Well. We're excited about it, excited about tomorrow, Excited about
a brand new cracking season and excited about getting the
chance to chat with you every week. So Al, thanks
for joining us. We appreciate it. Have a great year,
all right, absolutely, you guys have fun out there in Detroit.
All right, Al konisky with us here on Chuck and Buckets.
Rad a koy about that. Pretty sure he's punched somebody
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in this town.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah, oh guarantee you. Yeah, he didn't like to now
that he's not, you know, dropping the gloves. He likes
to just totally be nice all the time.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
It's a nice guy, but he's not a tiny guy,
larger hockey.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah. Yeah, he's had to punch a few people. It's
okay to just connect with mentally with the guy that
you were at one point in time, and you ever
walk around punching people now at your age, you know,
but it's okay to you know, reminisce a little bit.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
You know what. There were a couple of guys we
ran into the press box yesterday. Huh, I would like
all the maybe punch them. Yeah, it's been sensational. But
there are a couple of guys in the press we
are point nine percent. Yeah, they could have been out
of towners. Yeah, they weren't from Detroit. I mean, because
everyone from Detroit is wonderful. Wouldn't it be nice to
(25:40):
just like just go out get him?
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Oh al sick punch that dude. Yep, got it.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yeah, it's like six foot five inch Rick Astley getting
over to just whip you.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah. And he doesn't even like walk over. He like
fake skates, you know, like just go sideways and sideways
on shoes and then bake so like he's dropping clothes.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Now, that is a henchman right there, that.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
You don't you have skates on? Shut up fun the guy.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
If you'll be my bodyguard, I will also call you out. Yes, yeah,
I tell you Betty all right? Coming up next week.
Close out to this Wednesday edition live from Detroit to
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one last thing, Let's go round the room, Ashley.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
What you got?
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Well, A lot of people are posting on social media
about the anniversary of the nineteen ninety five Edgar Martinez
driving in Ken Griffey Junior in the bottom of the
eleventh of the Alds, and I know that we briefly
mentioned it, and I just wanted to say again I've
watched the video now forty five times. I think this morning,
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it never gets old, and I'm ready for an exciting
moment today.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
You're ready for a new memory, a new memory. Yeah,
I got to forget about the double. Let's just add
to it.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Yeah, but I and I will never get old.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I'll watch it.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
I can listen to Dave Neehouse and his voice, I mean,
all of it, and it will still give me chills.
But I need I'm ready, let's get I need another
ald Ds moment to give me chills.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
It's a hard one to beat, it is, but I mean,
I think maybe cow going hitting another one to the
dude wearing the sixty two jersey today, Yeah, get ready.
Maybe a grand Slam, get your glove ready game. Yeah,
I think maybe that'll do it. I'm down with that. Yeah,
(28:53):
I'm excited. I'm excited about today. I think I think
it's gonna be a fun game to watch. Hope. Well,
they just go out and play the way they're capable of.
It feels to me like they're feeling it though. Yeah,
I agree, they're feeling themselves. Yeah, and that's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Yeah, keep it up.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Might not sound like a good thing.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
That thing, what's your one last thing?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
I would also like to be smelling of champagne and
uh yeah, and then go to Tommy's and celebrate some
more there, because Tommy's is amazing, and uh we could
walk in there shooting champagne around the place and they
would be like, you want another bottle? You know what
I mean. It's sure you'd beat us, but it's just
(29:38):
so nice, and I just I don't. I don't think we.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Should do it or will do it, but we might
be able to get away with it.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
I think we could. I mean, you said we're gonna
do the postgame show tonight. True, thank you Sna Kawami
Casino for that, and then we're doing our show tomorrow
here before we fly home. I may not. I mean
he said, stay another night. I'll take you to the
opening day of the Detroit were Head Wings game's box.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Yeah, all right, crack, you gotta step it up, bring
these guys home.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Yeah. Well, I mean we're not going to make it
in time to get back to Climate Pledge.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I know that, but you could stay the other night?
Well it was crazy, like, uh this is what we
were told last night. Actually I'm not even kidding. He said,
you know what, you came in here last night and
you left as friends. You came in here tonight and
you're leaving his family. Wow after two days?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Yep, two days, two days, and then hugged us, gave
us his number. Anytime you're in Detroit, hit me up
and if you ever want to just call and keep
in touch do so.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah, that's impressive, good work.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Yeah, we walked out dumbfound and I'm like, what is
going on? This is like abnormally nice. Yeah, you don't
need to step it up as Seattle. Oh yeah, get
nicer Seattle. That Seattle freeze is real. It is, so
they say it has to be because it's a matter.
I'm in the twilight zone here. Wow, this is Yeah,
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this is twilight.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Zone because it's not what I was expecting, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
And it just keeps compounding itself. All right.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
On my one last thing, and I do want to
talk about this. Maybe it's when we get back to town.
Maybe it's Friday. Hopefully we don't have a baseball game
to preview on Friday. Maybe we can have a little
time to talk about it. But I mentioned this in
the Matt Brash interview. I was in the clubhouse last night,
Julio was standing there. Tom Verducci comes over their recognition.
Berducci's a legend, Julio's a virgeoning legend, and he comes
(31:40):
over to the locker and Tom Verducci's only question to
him was about the Mariner's pitching staff, and he's like, what,
what amazes you about being around this pitching staff and who?
And I really think Tom was looking for something about
the stuff. I've never seen five guys with, you know,
ninety eight US mile power velocity that can locate it.
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I think that's what Tom Berducci was looking for. And
Julio just kind of like, I've never seen people get
along so well. I mean, it's so crazy how they
share information and have each other. It's just a really
fascinating I mean, I'm taking license liberties with the actual quote,
(32:23):
I don't have it written down, but it was something
to the fact he was He's truly like gobsmacked over
just how close that this group is. And I want
to dive into it in the future, but it is something,
it is something special. I mean, they're not only very
good to great, but the relationship is unique between all
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of them. They support each other. They're all ridiculously talented,
and maybe most of them their best days are ahead
of them. And I get Pete Woodworth's some credit for
that as well. But it is a special group, and
Kate Anderson's joining it going forward. I mean, how long
is it going to be special? We got a long
time with these guys and I'm here for it.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Well, I think there's a lack of selfishness that has
to be there, where you can compete against one another
but also cheering for the other. There's a bunch of
times in professional baseball where it's there's an eye guy.
They're thinking about themselves first and foremost, and so they
almost want other people to fail so they look better,
or other people to fail so they get the opportunity.
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And I don't think this team has that. I think
it's more like, go out and shove George, is what
Bryce was thinking, so I can come out and do
it too, or one up what you did, or whatever
it might be. I think there's something it's eerily cool,
but it's from a place of just zero selfishness. They
want the best for each other and then they feed
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off of it. And share information with one another so
the whole team benefits.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Postgame coverage tonight here from Detroit, from Bucky and myself.
Will be back here again tomorrow in these same chairs,
delivering a reaction to Game nine, number four of the Alds,
and hopefully it'll be a celebratory show tomorrow starting at
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have added to our lineup, and here in Detroit. I'm
not sure what's going on with our zoom calls. But
we can't see you, Ryan, but I can see you.
(00:20):
You can't see me, but I can see that Ryan
Heally is joining the radio program. So former Mariner Ryan Healey,
who's turned into quite the key part of our postseason coverage,
joins us right here on Chuck and Back. I right,
good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
How's everyone doing.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We're doing all right. Not a bad way to win
a game last night. Eight for the final score. What
was your biggest takeaway? I don't always like to just
direct an analyst. I like to sort of give you
a chance to paint your beautiful canvas however you want.
What was your biggest takeaway from that win last night?
Logan Gilbert showed up Philip his own.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I thought he attacked the left He's from mendously with
the combination of the slider and split finger, kept him
off balance, kept him uncomfortable. That's the most uncomfortable that
I've seen carry Carpenter look this entire series and honest
his entire playoffs. The bats showed up. I felt like
everyone put together productive at bats, even guys like Josh Naylor,
who unfortunate went zero for five. He still hit a
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ball to right center field with runners on first and
second that was murdered, and then he had a twelve
pitch at bat early in the game when Flaherty was
kind of cruised and that was the first bump in
the road. There was just productive at bats up and
down this lineup, and I thought the defense played really clean,
the pitching execute. I mean, this is this is Mariner's Baseball.
Is what we need to do, dude, if we want
to win the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Well, I think it's twenty twenty five Mariners Baseball. I
wanted to ask you specifically this today because this is
something that we've talked about as a show here in
the past. I think what's most encouraging about this particular
roster is that I think they can win just about
any way. And that doesn't mean that they're gonna win
every single game out there, but over the course of
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a five game series or better, yet a seven game series.
Their ability to outscore you if they need to, or
to lean on a dominant pitching performance, or maybe even
outscrap you, play the small game a little bit, steal
some bases, move some base runners, which is something they
have struggled with severely over the last couple of years.
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I think that's the most encouraging thing about this roster
is that they can win a game like last night.
They can win a game like Game number two, w's
three to two nail bider. It just feels to me
that they have so many options to win a baseball game,
and that might not win in a particular game, it
might not show up that night, but over the course
of a five game stretch or a better yet a
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seven game stretch man, that is a weapon to have
to be able to win in a number of ways.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
What do you think of that, Chuck? That was really
well said, and I agree with you. This team is
versatile and they have different superstars and just quality depth
of positions of defense, pitching, an offense that can step
up at different parts of the game. And you look
at last night. I mean, Polonka was the hero when
we faced Terrex Google the other night. Then you look
at Roeblizz had a big double to get the rally
going early, drove a ball at the right center. I
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just this team looked lighter to me yesterday. I felt
like the I don't want to say the word burdings,
it's not appropriate, but the pressure of playing at home
and like getting that first playoff home win in twenty
four years. We talked about it. That was playing heavy
for those couple of games at home and to get
that win. They looked lighter yesterday when I saw them.
And to be able to weather that that you know,
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rain delate they were going through. That was a long delay.
I'm sitting here looking for updates any and everywhere, and
the only person providing something for me is Bucky, thank goodness.
And he found some whiskey and pumpkin apparently cocktail that
was out in a bouts and I was like, all right,
they're not playing yet. I'm not missing it. But this
team looked lighter. I felt like they kept the fans
out of it. They showed up a little bit in
the ninth when they got a rally going, but by
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that point we had Senor Smoke waiting. I didn't want
to use him. But if he needed a nine pitch
touch and field yesterday in that game to stay involved,
then I'm okay with it.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah. Heally, how important is it when you feel like
the depth of your lineup creates a sense of lightness
if you will to where you don't have to feel
like I gotta get it done or we're not going
to get it done. Because we've watched that for years
with this offense and yew now the length in this
lineup kind of creates a sense of freedom. I think
maybe lightness the way you put it, I mean, how
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important is that, especially when the moment gets as big
as it does in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
That's a great point, Bucky, And I think as a
as an offensive player, outs can feel like almost in
your death experience. Sometimes with twister runners and scoring position.
The game's getting later, the pressure is starting to build.
Every single time you make an out and don't come
through your team, it feels like the end of the world.
And I didn't feel that yesterday. I felt almost like energy.
And I talk about Josh Naylor a lot too, because
(04:50):
you know he hasn't had that first hit, But when
when JT. Crawford hit his home run who was in
the tops bet to the top step, cheering over the rail,
pointing at JPS. He's rounding first. There's ways to transfer energy,
good and bad, to throughout your teammates. And I feel
like right now, regardless of if someone's coming through or not,
they're transferring positive energy to the next guy and then
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they're coming through for them. And also cal Rawly's just
leading from the front right now, the way that he's
executing not just home runs but base hits. He is
leading from the front and the rest of following suit
and really contributing well.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Brian Healy is whether it's former Mariner third baseman and
first baseman DH on the squad and he joins us
here on the radio program. He's joining us throughout the
postseason to cover some Mariners playoff baseball. Here Mariners win
it last night by a final score of eight to four,
and so here you've got an opportunity, Ryan to close
(05:45):
this thing out today. Do you go after it like
it is a Game five? I mean, you've got scooball
on get in Game five. Sure it's at home, but
I would imagine the Mariners would like to avoid that.
So do you today, Bryce Miller's start, a bullpen that
everybody could pitch today. Do you kind of treat it
(06:06):
like not a must win, but let's just close it
out today and we're going to We're gonna do whatever
it takes to win this game.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
That's a great question for the managers in the front
of office making decisions pre game as they're kind of
navigating what the pitching is gonna look like. Obviously, we
know Bryce Miller's gonna start, but based off of the
seasons he had, we're assuming there's gonna be a pretty
quick hook in there. They left Gilbert in there yesterday
in the fifth inning when Carper came up a game
with first and third. That's happened almost every game in
the fifth inning, like carry Carpenter's up with first and third.
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But I feel like they will be more aggressive, not
because it's a must win, but because there's an off
day to follow and travel day. I believe that's correct
they're playing. They would play Game five at home with
an off day, so they would have rest for the bullpen.
So I think they're gonna exhaust the arms and the
bullpen today and if they see opportunities to bring different
bodies in they will. I don't like saying must win,
but you might see more aggressive managerial decisions today, especially
(07:00):
in the pitching side.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, one hundred percent. What do you say to a dude,
a teammate, I mean, the team goes out. There was
a really solid all around game. Not that everybody contributed,
but for the most part, you had guys at the
bottom and guys at the top that contributed offensively and
good pitching from everyone except for Caleb Ferguson. I mean,
what are you saying as a teammate to him, because
you're still going to need him if you end up
(07:23):
wanting to see this ride last for the rest of
this month, you're gonna need him to come out. There
was this just one where he's kind of a soft guy.
He pitches the contact, gets a lot of ground balls.
You hope they go to somebody or was this something
that you're thinking, You know what, dude, you're kind of
getting bumped down. We're not going to be able to
bring you in in any high leverage situation based on
(07:44):
how poor you your outcome was yesterday.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
That's a great question, and they can go one of
two ways. They can completely write them off and say
before we're gonna forget about you, or it's a really
great opportunity to reinforce some confidence into a pitcher, especially
a lefty that you're gonna need down the stretch here
and the lefties matchups out of the bullpen have been
really important for this This lefty heavy Tigers line up here.
So I don't I don't see that happening, meaning writing
(08:08):
them off. They'll be very strategic of when that opportunity comes.
Obviously the Spiers been the guy that is hired leverage.
But if I'm them, I'm I'm If I'm Dan Wilson,
I'm trying to get Ferguson in there today. Depending on
what the game is flowing like and looking like the quicker,
you get him back on the horse and more comfortably
he is. I mean, that escalated really quickly on him,
and I'm not gonna sit here and say he pitched terrible.
(08:29):
It was a knock and then a walk, and then
the double by torkals In and then another knock, and
it's like, Wow, that escalated really quickly. That's so quickly
the stuff can happen in the game. It's not because
he's a bad pitcher. That was just the last little
bit of fight that the Tigers had. Unfortunately Ferguson was
on the receiving end of it.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Well, I liked zam used as he was acquired. You're
a specialty guy. That was not a specialty situation last night.
I'd rather use the point Jackson there quite frankly, I
mean good point.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Criticize an eight to four win, but I'd have gone
with Luke Jackson there with a seven run lead, and
let's get Ferguson back to being used the way that
he's supposed to be used, and that's in the middle
of an inning against a left hand or to either
take that left handed hit or out of the game,
or to get out of the inning, and then with
a fresh new inning, you bring in somebody who is
a little more versatile. So I just thought, this seems
(09:16):
hyper critical after a win like that.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
But I thought that was a misuse of Ferguson last night. Brian,
I don't want to say it's hypercritical. I think that's
it's probably over aggressive. I would say that's realistic. It's
the reality of what is that picture's mentality, and what
are his strengths and how do we maximize the situations
that we have available throughout the game to give that
picture the best opportunity to succeed. It's an eight to
one game, that's the one. Is Ferguson thrown a blowout?
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If he's been a high leverage situational arm, you're not
throwing him into the situation. It's kind of like when
you see a closer in a blowout game and he
has a pitch for four days, Hey, we gotta get
him some work and we're up or we're down, and
they come out there and they get shelled. It's because
the mind the mentality in the mindset is not it's
not matched with what the situated situation handles. And these pictures,
the relievers especially, they use so much adrenaline to perform
(10:02):
in those moments and execute to find that extra level
of focus they need to operate. And there's no shot
that Ferguson had that after a three hour rain delay
and eight to one score, and you know Marrior's now
heading towards a clinch, like there's no way the Mines
was one hundred and ten percent locked in on the
task at hand.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Well, you've been to Detroit before, so we don't have
to ask you about that. I mean, you've had the
Detroit experience, you've been through a rain delay before, you've
won a big game before. But I do want to
ask you, based off something you said a little bit earlier,
have you ever drank whiskey out of a pumpkin shell?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I have not, but I might put that on my
fall to do list. It feels like if pumpkin spice
lotpes can be a thing, why can't I have some
whiskey out of a pumpkin.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I'll tell you this, it was very popular. I mean,
they were out of pumpkin shells before the game even
Sorry now granted there was a three hour rain delay,
but out of pumpkin shells before the game even started
last night.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
You think in session sales they were meeting before the
games anything, and we got to double what we brought
today at the pumpkin shells because that was a hot
ticket yesterday.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I think I know what to do next, Jack and
cocoa lanterns.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Oh yeah, okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah, that's the next way to Jack Daniels, oh lanterns
something like that. Yeah, all right, hey man, great stuff again.
As always, do you feel good about Game four? And
finishing this thing off today.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Percent I like the energy the bats are gonna carry us.
There's some guys that haven't contributed yet that I think
they're gonna break loose, and I'm really excited to watch
that through because everyone else is already ready to support.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
All Right, you're the man. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
How about that?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Can't wait for it? Go ems all right?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Ryan Helick joining us right here on Chucking Buck in
the Mornings as as we celebrate an eight four victory
here live from Detroit with Ryan Healy there on the
old zoom call. He's right there was the middle of
the order didn't even contribute. You had an eight run
effort and the middle of your order did nothing. They
came up snake eyes last night, including the heroes of
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Game number two, Julio and Polanco. Even we're empty and
we're still waiting for Josh Naylor to get going. But
when you get the contributions like you did from the
bottom of the order, which is something I repeated a
lot yesterday throughout our broadcast day, I kind of felt
like we were going to get some contributions, but more
than contributions, Bucky, we got just pure damage from the
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bottom of the order. Six of the eight runs scored
were from hitters six through nine in that game last night. Man,
you get that on this team, with this pitching, you're
winning every single game that you play, regardless of opponent.
And so it's just as it's the roster is set
up so well. They're just so many ways that they
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can win a baseball game.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
They really do. I mean, there's good signs and bad signs.
I said it earlier, and I think that it's something
that it's always sticks in my head of how good
or how bad is anything, any given thing, any pitch,
any bat contact. It doesn't always boil down to just
what the outcome is. Now, outcomes matter because I don't
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care if you just have twenty seven good at bats,
if you get no hit, it was not very good.
It wasn't good enough. That said, I think this team
kind of has the feel right now. You heard it
from Polonka when you interviewed him that anybody can be
the hero in any given night. And yet that means
that they don't have to go up there trying to
be the hero. You go up there to have a
(13:27):
good ab and you might end up being the dude
that gets the thing started, like robusted, or then you know,
gets that knock, the little I mean signature swing of
JP's where it kind of almost gets jammed a little
bit and hits a little filet out there into left
field or left center field that gets the scoring started.
A Rose Arena backs it up. It's all of a sudden,
like once that contagious part of hitting starts going, everybody
(13:51):
chips in on it. Well, you're still going to I've
been on the end where I'm the guy that goes
four for four or I'm the one guy that goes
zero for five and everybody else we scored fifteen runs.
I don't care. You don't care if you right now,
I can promise you Hulu, Rodriguez, Polonco and Naylor, who
hasn't gotten a hit in the entire series, none of
them are feeling sorry for themselves because they're one game
(14:11):
away and they all feel like, today's my day. Today,
I'm gonna go do it. Watch and I wouldn't be
surprised if that threesome just goes off today.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Who knows, Well, there's some fluky things that happen in sports.
There's some outlier stuff that happens in sports. Baseball can
be crazy. It's a postseason is unpredictable as any postseason
in American professional sports, there's no question about it. But
the longer these series gets, more often the cream's going
(14:38):
to rise to the top. And maybe we're seeing that
happen right before our eyes. I mean, yeah, it's an
unpredictable thing until it is predictable. Jack Flaherty yesterday a
very predictable outing for him. He is somebody that has
really good stuff, and his numbers suggest that he should
have had a better season than what he had for
the Detroit Tigers. I mean, low opponent's batting a bridge
(15:00):
against high strikeouts, low walks, and yet a high eer.
What does that tell you about Jack Flaherty is when
he does give up damage, he gives it up in clusters.
And that's exactly what the Mariners took advantage of. Meanwhile,
Logan Gilbert more often than not just gives you a
steady eddy performance, and he gave you that last night
for six strong innings. I even sort of suggested to
(15:22):
Cal that maybe he wasn't as sharp in the first
two innings, and Cal said.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Nope, you're wrong.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
He was sharp from pitch number one. Now, would you
please get out of my face, my face of the franchise. Yeah, no,
he didn't. He didn't get angry with me at all.
But yes, it was sort of predictable. I mean, that's
the kind of game that Tiger fans are worried about
from Flaherty, and it's the kind of game that Mariner
(15:47):
fans are almost to the point of expecting out of Logan.
And now that we have this offense that can show
up and score eight runs in a night, man, it
really does add another weapon. I mean, it's like, Okay,
you've got a knife, but when you had a gun,
you know, you got probably a better chance of coming
(16:08):
out of the war with that. All right, Coming up
next on the other side, here Chucking Buck Live from
Detroit to Al Kaniski knows what it's like to come
to hockey town. So we're on the eve of the
Krakens season opener at home against Anaheim, and it's our
first official conversation of the year with Kracking color analysts
(16:28):
Al Koniski next on Chuck and Bucks Sports Radio ninety
three point three kJ R f M. Yeah, that's what
it means.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Yeah, that makes Yeah, no one knows, but it's provocative.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
You.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
You're right, Maybe no one does know, but I'm pretty
sure Kid rock Detroit. Kid, I think babwa taba means
we're going down, and yeah I hear that.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, yep, yeah, yep.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Right here, yep, Sorry about it, Kid, That is your
real name.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
It's not our It is his real name, Christopher Kidd.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Definitely Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
A little bit later on, Bucky and I are here
in Detroit, Michigan. Some people call it Motown, other people
call it the Motor City. There are some people out
in the world, like our next guest, that probably know
it as hockey Town. Something tells me that Alkonisky has
punched a person in this city before. It's just my guest.
It's just my guest. But joining us now on the
(17:24):
program is our color analyst for your Seattle Cracking, who
start their season tomorrow. Al Canisky is with us. Ow
We're a fired up to have you back for another season.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
I'm fired up too, boys, I'm excited. And you know,
even though you're in Detroit to it feels like you're
right around the corner. As per usual, We've got you know,
opening night coming up here. Tomorrow night, and I can
tell you I'm excited. Ever it's excited, Benton's excited, and
we're ready to go.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Every hockey guy's got to have a Detroit store. Do
you have a Detroit story that you could share with
us out before we start talking cracking hockey.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
Well, the Detroit story is actually tied back to Canada,
and it's my homeland. It's not a personal story, but
I always think it's fascinating how close Detroit is to
Canada and you and I hear a lot of people
talk about going across the border, which I mean, what
is it thirty minutes twenty minutes away? But it's a
(18:22):
very different experience when you go across the border into
Toronto versus versus a Detroit in terms of you know,
Canadians and food and maybe not so much weather, but
people don't lock their doors. It's it's it's quite quite
a yin and yang from from Detroit.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I want you, at some point in the future to
define canadianness.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yeah, so we're gonna have you do that.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
Tell you I can't do that now.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
We're going to pin you down to that in the future.
But today we got too much to talk about. So
I know you're fired up for the season getting underway tomorrow.
Why is that, Why are you excited for this year's
Kracking team.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
I'm excited because of the changes that were made in
the offseason. We can talk about coaching, we can talk
about players that came in, players that went out, we
can talk about a three goalie competition for you know,
who's going to be one, who's going to be two,
and who's not going to be one or two. I
think all of those things lead to a better hockey
(19:25):
team that should be competing for a playoff spot come April.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yeah, I'm with you on that. I'll go to one
of those. Then the three goalie thing, I mean, obviously,
a long time ago, it was everybody had one guy
and then they had a backup for if needed. And
now it's moved more into the kind of a goalie
by committee. A couple guys, what is the benefit of
having three or is this really Joe to Coords the incumbent,
(19:51):
and then it's Grew and the other kid that are
going to be fighting to see who is the backup.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
Well, it's a couple of things. And starting with a
new goaltending coach and Collins Uliano, who you know, some
of these guys know better better than others, which which
is always a good way to start. But in terms
of the competition itself, Seattle is one of six teams
that are starting the season with three goaltenders. And it's not,
you know, it's not like, hey, teams that don't have
(20:16):
a shot at making the playoffs are going to carry
three goaltenders to see what No, it's not that at all.
In fact, some of the other teams include Tampa Bay,
include Colorado, include Carolina, And I think what it is
is you've got three good quality choices and you're not sure,
you're sure yet who the two best are going to be.
How do you figure that out? Well, you keep them
around a little bit longer and you get into some
(20:37):
regular season games. I'd be shocked if we still had
three goaltenders on the on the roster come January first.
So I think that this first month of October where
Seattle's going to face a ton of top playoff teams
from last year, including Vegas, including Edmonton twice, Toronto, Washington,
(20:57):
like they're going to get tested these goaltenders, and I
think you're going to see each of them get some
games in the month of October and come Halloween, we're
going to have a pretty good sense of who number
one is and who number two is. But if not,
we might push that into November. But I don't think
it goes much beyond that where we're carrying three goaltenders.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Alcaniski is with US color analyst for yours Seattle Crack
and they start the season tomorrow at home against Anaheim.
And you have complete coverage right here with Everett, with
Al with Mike Bnton, with Ian Ferness, cast of thousands
that got you covered for opening night. It's going to
be a special occasion. You dropped it right in the
middle of a divisional series in Major League Baseball, and
(21:39):
yet it's as if God ordained for the divisional series
to take the night off for the Kraken to debut
in twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six. You know a
lot of talk over the first few years of this
organization's existence about do they have a superstar player? Is
there one close? And there seems to be a big
(22:02):
question mark about that going into this year. Maybe Jared
McCann's never going to reach superstar status. Al Is Shane
wright somebody that could achieve that in the near future,
as early as this year. Is Maddy Benier's ever going
to turn into that player? What is your outlook on
whether or not the Kraken are going to have a
(22:23):
special player on the ice this year?
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Well, I think in the second half of the season
one of the conversations we'll be having is who has
the higher ceiling in terms of offensive potential? Is it
Shane Right, is it Maddy Benaer's And you know, maybe
down the road. I don't think it will be this season,
but is it Berkeley Cat? You are really strong up
the middle on the offensive offensive lines. I think in
(22:48):
terms of Jared McCann and even Jordan Eberley for that matter,
last season injuries plagued them a bit. If those two
can stay healthy through this season, I think they could
make the guys that I just spoke of down the
middle be better hockey players. And you know, health is
obviously an important part of any team's success. I think
that if this team can stay healthy, then you're going
(23:11):
to see McCann scoring more goals. You're going to see
Everly scoring more goals. You're going to see those two
leaders helping the youth on this team, Yannie Newman for
the games that Berkeley Caton ends up playing. So in
terms of high end offensive talent, I think in the
January to March timeframe, we're going to be talking a
lot about Shane Wright's season, the impact that Kappo Coaco
(23:36):
has on a full twelve months, She's been a full season.
Once he gets back on the ice, it's going to
be interesting to see. I think that that again askis
next to the word health. If you've got these guys
playing a full eighty eighty one eighty two games this season,
they all have a high upside potential.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Do you have anything special planned yourself personally? I mean,
it's a special night for the kracking for yourself, for
the entire crew. But I don't know if you buy
new pants or anything for the upcoming hockey season.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Hey guys, I just hope my pants fit. Let alone
buy new ones. It was a long summer and a
lot of brisket and and enjoyment and golf feed and
that sort of thing, so I gotta shed a few
pounds to make sure those suits still fit.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Well. We're excited about it, excited about tomorrow, Excited about
a brand new cracking season and excited about getting the
chance to chat with you every week. So Al, thanks
for joining us. We appreciate it. Have a great year,
all right, absolutely, you guys have fun out there in Detroit.
All right, Al konisky with us here on Chuck and Buckets.
Rad a koy about that. Pretty sure he's punched somebody
(24:51):
in this town.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah, oh guarantee you. Yeah, he didn't like to now
that he's not, you know, dropping the gloves. He likes
to just totally be nice all the time.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
It's a nice guy, but he's not a tiny guy,
larger hockey.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah. Yeah, he's had to punch a few people. It's
okay to just connect with mentally with the guy that
you were at one point in time, and you ever
walk around punching people now at your age, you know,
but it's okay to you know, reminisce a little bit.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
You know what. There were a couple of guys we
ran into the press box yesterday. Huh, I would like
all the maybe punch them. Yeah, it's been sensational. But
there are a couple of guys in the press we
are point nine percent. Yeah, they could have been out
of towners. Yeah, they weren't from Detroit. I mean, because
everyone from Detroit is wonderful. Wouldn't it be nice to
(25:40):
just like just go out get him?
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Oh al sick punch that dude. Yep, got it.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yeah, it's like six foot five inch Rick Astley getting
over to just whip you.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah. And he doesn't even like walk over. He like
fake skates, you know, like just go sideways and sideways
on shoes and then bake so like he's dropping clothes.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Now, that is a henchman right there, that.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
You don't you have skates on? Shut up fun the guy.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
If you'll be my bodyguard, I will also call you out. Yes, yeah,
I tell you Betty all right? Coming up next week.
Close out to this Wednesday edition live from Detroit to
Chucking Buck in the mornings, we got one last thing
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Maybe Bucky's gonna get sprayed with champagne. I don't know.
Only time I suppose we'll tell. But we got you
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morning show as well from Detroit, and then we fly
back home to Seattle, hopefully with a series win. All Right,
one last thing, Let's go round the room, Ashley.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
What you got?
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Well, A lot of people are posting on social media
about the anniversary of the nineteen ninety five Edgar Martinez
driving in Ken Griffey Junior in the bottom of the
eleventh of the Alds, and I know that we briefly
mentioned it, and I just wanted to say again I've
watched the video now forty five times. I think this morning,
(28:08):
it never gets old, and I'm ready for an exciting
moment today.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
You're ready for a new memory, a new memory. Yeah,
I got to forget about the double. Let's just add
to it.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Yeah, but I and I will never get old.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I'll watch it.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
I can listen to Dave Neehouse and his voice, I mean,
all of it, and it will still give me chills.
But I need I'm ready, let's get I need another
ald Ds moment to give me chills.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
It's a hard one to beat, it is, but I mean,
I think maybe cow going hitting another one to the
dude wearing the sixty two jersey today, Yeah, get ready.
Maybe a grand Slam, get your glove ready game. Yeah,
I think maybe that'll do it. I'm down with that. Yeah,
(28:53):
I'm excited. I'm excited about today. I think I think
it's gonna be a fun game to watch. Hope. Well,
they just go out and play the way they're capable of.
It feels to me like they're feeling it though. Yeah,
I agree, they're feeling themselves. Yeah, and that's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Yeah, keep it up.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Might not sound like a good thing.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
That thing, what's your one last thing?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
I would also like to be smelling of champagne and
uh yeah, and then go to Tommy's and celebrate some
more there, because Tommy's is amazing, and uh we could
walk in there shooting champagne around the place and they
would be like, you want another bottle? You know what
I mean. It's sure you'd beat us, but it's just
(29:38):
so nice, and I just I don't. I don't think we.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Should do it or will do it, but we might
be able to get away with it.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
I think we could. I mean, you said we're gonna
do the postgame show tonight. True, thank you Sna Kawami
Casino for that, and then we're doing our show tomorrow
here before we fly home. I may not. I mean
he said, stay another night. I'll take you to the
opening day of the Detroit were Head Wings game's box.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Yeah, all right, crack, you gotta step it up, bring
these guys home.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Yeah. Well, I mean we're not going to make it
in time to get back to Climate Pledge.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I know that, but you could stay the other night?
Well it was crazy, like, uh this is what we
were told last night. Actually I'm not even kidding. He said,
you know what, you came in here last night and
you left as friends. You came in here tonight and
you're leaving his family. Wow after two days?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Yep, two days, two days, and then hugged us, gave
us his number. Anytime you're in Detroit, hit me up
and if you ever want to just call and keep
in touch do so.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah, that's impressive, good work.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Yeah, we walked out dumbfound and I'm like, what is
going on? This is like abnormally nice. Yeah, you don't
need to step it up as Seattle. Oh yeah, get
nicer Seattle. That Seattle freeze is real. It is, so
they say it has to be because it's a matter.
I'm in the twilight zone here. Wow, this is Yeah,
(31:10):
this is twilight.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Zone because it's not what I was expecting, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
And it just keeps compounding itself. All right.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
On my one last thing, and I do want to
talk about this. Maybe it's when we get back to town.
Maybe it's Friday. Hopefully we don't have a baseball game
to preview on Friday. Maybe we can have a little
time to talk about it. But I mentioned this in
the Matt Brash interview. I was in the clubhouse last night,
Julio was standing there. Tom Verducci comes over their recognition.
Berducci's a legend, Julio's a virgeoning legend, and he comes
(31:40):
over to the locker and Tom Verducci's only question to
him was about the Mariner's pitching staff, and he's like, what,
what amazes you about being around this pitching staff and who?
And I really think Tom was looking for something about
the stuff. I've never seen five guys with, you know,
ninety eight US mile power velocity that can locate it.
(32:02):
I think that's what Tom Berducci was looking for. And
Julio just kind of like, I've never seen people get
along so well. I mean, it's so crazy how they
share information and have each other. It's just a really
fascinating I mean, I'm taking license liberties with the actual quote,
(32:23):
I don't have it written down, but it was something
to the fact he was He's truly like gobsmacked over
just how close that this group is. And I want
to dive into it in the future, but it is something,
it is something special. I mean, they're not only very
good to great, but the relationship is unique between all
(32:44):
of them. They support each other. They're all ridiculously talented,
and maybe most of them their best days are ahead
of them. And I get Pete Woodworth's some credit for
that as well. But it is a special group, and
Kate Anderson's joining it going forward. I mean, how long
is it going to be special? We got a long
time with these guys and I'm here for it.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Well, I think there's a lack of selfishness that has
to be there, where you can compete against one another
but also cheering for the other. There's a bunch of
times in professional baseball where it's there's an eye guy.
They're thinking about themselves first and foremost, and so they
almost want other people to fail so they look better,
or other people to fail so they get the opportunity.
(33:27):
And I don't think this team has that. I think
it's more like, go out and shove George, is what
Bryce was thinking, so I can come out and do
it too, or one up what you did, or whatever
it might be. I think there's something it's eerily cool,
but it's from a place of just zero selfishness. They
want the best for each other and then they feed
(33:47):
off of it. And share information with one another so
the whole team benefits.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Postgame coverage tonight here from Detroit, from Bucky and myself.
Will be back here again tomorrow in these same chairs,
delivering a reaction to Game nine, number four of the Alds,
and hopefully it'll be a celebratory show tomorrow starting at
six am. Kid and MJ coming your way next. Sports
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