November 10, 2025 • 37 mins
Headlines and 12th man news with GREGG BELL (Tacoma News Tribune) Gregg shares his thoughts on the passing of Lenny Wilkens. The Seahawks 1st half was total domination yesterday. What did we see from this defense yesterday? It was run-heavy for the offense, but there were some sloppy moments for Sam Darnold and the offense. Injury updates and more! :30- The Dawgs blew it in Madison. The weather was awful, but UW can’t blame it for the loss. They were incapable of getting anything going and gave the Badgers their first conference win. :35- We had an awful week in fact or fiction, but luckily Chuck is the only one who got a pick right last week and he’s starting us off this morning! :45- We have missed hearing from Mike MacDonald!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The fake to Walker who offers a block and then
going deep and looking inside the cart. Stiff and Ship
go with the track who a catch forty three y
touchdown strike Shacobe Brissette.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Oh there was the pitch who has hit.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
The Polly's free picked up by Lawrence, Billy kicking on, Yes, Sir,
to the house.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Touchdown with Hernest Jones out. Third down eleven, here comes
Knight not.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
To wag in.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Louise becomes Lawrence.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Holy smokes another touchdown by the same guy, the same
guy that hit him on the first touchdown Tyrase. Knight
hits him again and thankuiming it in till Mark is Lawrence.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
He finds the open receiver and here he goes with a.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Catch in a run Cooper Cup breaking tackos.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
On the way.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Thompson will hold him out co book up. It's charbon
Ay hurdling Davy Tuchtown plus second rushing touchdown.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Today by Seattle.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
This will be a thirty four yard drop Charty two
for two today and Matt is the record center. There's
your own time field goal, make kicker and Seahawk history.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
I just realized had I started to Marcus Lawrence had
running back this week in fantasy he would have outscored
both my running backs.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
That would have been a good move.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
All right, great move, wouldn't it would everybody had thought
I was crazy.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
It would have been like, and how's what's he doing?
And then they would be like, how did he know?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
I would have had the last laugh?
Speaker 6 (01:46):
Yeah, you would have.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Would have laughed so hard in Jackson Feltz's face. It's
Chuck Powell, It's Bucky Jacobson, It's Ashley Ryan with you
here on a Monday. Good morning to you all. Hope
you had a great weekend, enjoyed that Friday, Saturday and
Sunday fall weather out there. All sorts of sports things
to discuss today, but of course our primary focus will
be on the sport of football, American football. We'll chat
(02:10):
with Greg Bell here in a matter of moments. Also,
Hugh Millen and Mike Holmgrin are on tap for you
from eight to ten o'clock here this morning, right here
on Chuck and Buck in the Morning Sports Radio ninety
three point three KJARFM. But we start the seven o'clock
hour with your frost brewed cors Light Choose Chill headlines
here on a Choose chill Monday, counting you down to
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Monday Night football at five point fifteen Packers versus Eagles Seahawks.
You heard the highlights Westwood one, Kevin Harlan, Trent Green
on the call. They doubled up the Arizona Cardinals forty
four to twenty two, but it was not that close.
They were up thirty eight to seven at one point
in the second quarter. They had at one point built
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up elite of thirty five to nothing with eight and
a half minutes left in the second quarter, and ended
up carrying the ball forty six times to just twelve
passes in the contest to just try and run out
the clock as quickly as possible with as little damage
as possible. We'll talk more about it with Creig Bell
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here in a little bit, but we can already start
thinking about that next game for the Seahawks. It's the
game of the year, certainly to this point, against the
Los Angeles Rams in LA this Sunday at one o'clock,
both teams at seven and two. On the year college football,
you'd Ufel to Wisconsin just a terrible, terrible loss. You
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can forget about any sort of playoff run for the Huskies.
It dissolved Saturday amid slush and rain and snow and
wind in Madison, Wisconsin. The Badgers took out the Dogs
thirteen to ten. Dub Hoops lost to Baylor last night
seventy eight to sixty nine. Not a bad showing against
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a ranked Baylor team and a top ranked a Baylor program.
Next up for Danny Spring and the Dogs will be
the Coogs this Friday at eight o'clock in Pullman. Cracking
at a very interesting back to back a couple of days,
they pulled out somehow a four to three win in
Saint Louis on Saturday, scored with zero point five seconds
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left in regulation to force it into overtime, where they
won it on a Shane Wright goal, but then lost
yesterday to the Dallas Stars two to one. They'll next
play Columbus tomorrow at home. Finally, the Sounder season ended.
Not finally got another story. Sounder season ended in a shootout,
So Minnesota takes two out of three, but never truly
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won a match. They just won two shootouts. We at
least won a match. Yeah, in the series, but it's
Minnesota that advances. The Sounder season comes to a close
MLB Awards season starts tonight. Manager of the Year will
be tomorrow MVP and that's the cow vote will be
on Thursday, Tonight's Rookie of the Year. But the MLB
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Awards season begins starting tonight. And of course, Lenny Wilkins
the big story today, passing away at the age of
eighty eight, legendary Seattle sports figure, basketball icon and pretty
much just respected, beloved throughout the entire sports community nationwide,
maybe even globally. Joining us now here on the program
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is our Seahawks insider Greg Bell. All Right, a lot
to discuss with you today. Can we start with Lenny Wilkins.
Just any interaction that you've had with the legendary Lenny Wilkins.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Absolutely. One of the greatest things I've done was in
June on our radio station here. I'd spent two hours
in the studio with Lenny Wilkins and it was right
before the unveiling of his statue in front of Climate Pledgerina.
His son was there too, and we just talked about
just talked about his life and his impact on basketball
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in Northwest and across the world, and yeah, about him
being an ROTC cadetic Providence college back in the fifties
for the for Army ROTC. He was an Army lieutenant
and he was interested in my army background as well.
And it was a joy, absolutely thrill for me. Jessmond
McIntyre our producer, assistant station or program manager season when
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who set it up? And it was I was so grateful.
He's such a compassionate, giving, introspective. I had a ton
of agitide, you could say for Lenny Wilkins. He helped
so many people in the community, youth initiatives that he
did basketball non basketball. He always stayed in Seattle even
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after he left from being the coach and the player
that he was in the sixties and seventies and into
the as and he was in Cleveland when I was
growing up as a coach of the Cavaliers, and he
always had a home in Seattle and he always came back. Man,
was he respected universally respected. I'm glad you gave me
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a chance to say how much I appreciate and will
always remember many welcomes for what he's done well beyond basketball.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Yeah, absolutely well, said Greg Bell with US our Seahawks Insider.
And so we do react to yesterday's forty four to
twenty two. When I know that there were different opinions
about this team when the season started. I think some
people had more positive than others. But I don't know
if anybody saw the dominance that they would display. This
league is not supposed to be dominated the way that
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it has, at least for six quarters. I mean, that's
about as well as you can expect an NFL team
to play against NFL competition for a six quarter stretch.
And so, yeah, things got a little sloppy and careless
in the second half trying to preserve a thirty one
point leader, thirty five point lead, But speak to just
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how everything has clicked for those six quarters for the
Mike McDonald and the Hawks.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Yeah, you're right about NFL teams, and the margins are
usually so small and it's hard to do what they've
done the last two weeks. In the first halfs of games,
it was what's it was the first half of sixty six,
I think it was sixty nine to fourteen. The last
two weeks. In the first half of the last two games,
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it was thirty one seven and Washington and what was it,
thirty eight? Nothing at thirty eight whatever it was thirty five,
thirty eight seven yesterday. So yeah, sixty nine fourteen in
the first half of two games. And you're right, that
doesn't happen no matter who you're playing, that usually just
does not happened. The turnovers are the big thing, the
defense getting the turnovers, especially turnovers that become points. That's
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how you roll up a lead that quickly in this league.
That was like a lightning strike yesterday. De Marcus Lawrence
that when he did something that only three players have
done in one hundred years of NFL football back to
nineteen twenty five. And I only found two other guys
who returned two fumbles for touchdowns in the same game,
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and he did the exact same way. Well, Tyrese Knight,
Now there were two different blitzes. What's interesting about that
is we talked all last week, or at least I
did you guys listen to me talk about how Kyler
Murray not starting was going to be a boon for
Seattle's defensive front. Remember, we talked about talked about how
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it was just going to be a field day for
the defensive front against Jacoby Brissett because because Brissette stayed
in the pocket almost to a fault. He stays in
the pocket and just stands in there, and even when
pressure's coming, he stands in there and he throws the ball. Well,
that's exactly what the Seahawks feasted on yesterday. And after
the game, I asked Bier Murphy, how different was the
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prep this week for Whenther you normally play in Arizona
going against ans kind of Murray, He said, oh, man,
we knew that Brissette was his words, a sitting duck,
and then he would just sit back there and we
would be able to go straight up the field at him.
De Marcus Lawrence said the same thing. He said, we
knew he wasn't going to escape the pocket. We knew
he'd be sitting right there. If we just ran straight
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up the field at him. It played right into the
strength of the Seahawks defense. And even in Bolden Mike
McDonald to blitz inside. He doesn't normally blitz a lot anyway,
and when he blitzes, it's usually off the edges. Right.
You can think of nickimn Worrie, you think of Devin Witherspoon,
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you think of let's see the defensive backs blitzing off
the edge, not yesterday, Tyree Knight in the a gap
straight up the field, a vertical pass rush where they
didn't have to worry about the quarterback escaping the pocket.
And it was Tyree Snice's Knight's vertical inside pass rushes
on both of those tumble recoveries that created the touchdowns.
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And that's how it got from seven nothing to fourteen
nothing in a hurry, and then from twenty one US
in the twenty eight nothing in the first minute of
the second quarter. That played right into their strength. The
Seahawks won that game on Tuesday, when the Cardinals decided
that it was going to be Jacoby Brissett.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
Yeah, obviously the defense, those two you know, sack strips
and scoops and scores kind of set the tone and
they just took off after that. And regardless of what
happened in the third quarter and how they kind of,
you know, things kind of went off the rails a
little bit, they it didn't really matter at that point.
I'm curious the run game, I mean, essentially, this team,
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i mean runs the ball forty six times, because once
you get up thirty five zip, you're just thinking, okay,
let's get this thing to the end. Of the fourth
quarter as quickly as possible. They would have ran for
over two hundred yards as a as a group if
it wasn't for the Drew Locke, you know, kneel downs
at the end of the game that kind of bring
them back under that and so effective, I would say,
probably the most effective it's been by your your mate
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two ball carriers at least, and even George Hallaney when
he came in just simply because they knew you were
going to run. I mean, it was obvious you weren't
going to keep passing the ball and trying to run
the score up. So how impressed were you with just
the way in which they ran this week?
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Well, I'm still not sold and I'm with you. Once
it became twenty eight thirty five, they were going to
run the rest of the game. They had a thirteen
play drive in the second half, and all thirteen plays
were runs. What was different was they Zach Sarbaey got
more than a yard or two on his carries. He
had a thirty yard run at one point yesterday he
ended up with eighty three yards. Kenneth Walker had a
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twenty four yard run. They did it on bouncing it
outside they the gap would be, the play would be
designed for inside, and then they'd kick it and bounce
it out. And that's how Charbon and Walker by both
of their runs. And it is the same thing the
Kubiak has done all year. He's just going to keep
running and yesterday by keep running, he eventually it broke
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and they got the yards. And Donald had a season
low twelve pass attempts and he's still on just ten completions.
At one hundred and seventy eight yards seventeen point eight
yards of completion, that's going to raise his average above
ten for yards per pass attempt, which is already leading
the NFL. And who even went up more yesterday. The
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biggest concern on the offense to me is Sam Donald
holding under the ball. Well, we've talked about that for
a couple months now. How when he gets pressure near him,
he tends to have some freaky turnovers, like Abe Lucas
his back hitting his Donald's arm at the end of
the San Francisco game in the red zone, losing a
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fumbled Nick Bosa. It was very similar yesterday when A J.
Barner got pushed into him and Donald threw a pass
off a Barner's helmet and became intercepted. He's throwing to
pass off another Tampa Bay Buccaneers helmet that got intercepted
at the end of the game and handed the Buccaneers
the winning points. As great as Donald has been, and
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he has been, and I'm not here to say that
Sam DoLS she can run out of town, it's quite
the opposite. He still has ten turnovers in nine games.
He has seventeen touchdowns against six interceptions, and he has
four lost fumbles. What's alarmed in the story at the
News Tribune that posted this morning about this, what's alarming
about the fort fumbles, guys is He's only been sacked
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ten times all season, and on nearly half of those
he's lost the ball. That's a problem. When the guy
who is holding the ball sixty plus times a game
is dropping it at forty percent rate when he gets sacked,
that's an issue. And as great as their defense can be,
they'll lose to the Rams on Sunday if they turn
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the ball over. Now the defense again, even after the
turnovers again, two goal line stands turning the Cardinals away
on short fields, and the Cardinals only two touchdowns until
garbage time, we're on twenty yards or twenty two yard
total of the two drives to their touchdowns because the
Seahawks gave it up inside the ten yard line twice. Yeah,
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he's got a hold on the ball, period. He said it.
After the game, McDonald chocked up one of the fumbles
the center exchange with Little Timmy. It was the third
snap of the Little Timmy I'm going to come from
Jacob Sendell's injury. And then they fumbled again in the
fourth court on Mason Richmond was the center, or excuse
to be Brice Cable dow as the center. Tobacca quarterback
Drew Box. But the bottom line is they can't turn
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to Oliver and win on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Fair Greg Bell with us our Seahawks insider. Of course,
forty six rushes to twelve passes, that's going to skew
the pass run ratio stats for the rest of the
season when you put together a game like that, I
did want to ask you speaking of a balance. Rashid
Shaheed makes his debut for the Seahawks. I mean they
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lined him up as a tailback in the I formation.
He was returning kicks. He obviously lined up at a
couple different places as a wide receiver. So were they
experimenting with him with a big lead. Is this indicative
of how they want to use him? Or are they
just you know, scratching the tip of the iceberg here?
Speaker 4 (16:07):
No, I think it's indicative. I talked to him after
the game. He was beaming. Man, he was so happy
to get out of New Orleans and into Seattle. The
week before he was in LA against for the Saints
against the Rams and they got smoked by LA. And
the Saints are one and eight at the time. And
I was thinking, as I was talking to me yesterday,
what a difference a week makes for him. Now he's
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in the locker room where the music is just blaring.
Their in first place. They're going to LA next week
to play the Rams for first place in the division.
He must think he just Christmas came like four years
worth the Christmases cave for him in one week. He
said it was what he expected. I asked him if
that was more than he expect He said no. Once
I knew Horton was banged up, I knew I was
going to get the return games. And Horton didn't play
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a course yesterday, and he said, this is clined Clint
Kubiak does with him. It's what he did in New
Orleans last year in the six games he played for
the Saints before he got injured. Talking about Shaheed, that
Kubiak will do that, he's going to move him around
the formations and runs fly sweeps. There's a few more
things he said in the playbook for him already that
they didn't use yesterday. So this is something of a
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tip of the iceberg, but that's how they're going to
run Shaheed. Coober Cup talked after the game that he
could already tell the defenses the safeties had they couldn't
cheat as much to Jackson Smith and Jigba knowing that
Shaheed could be blowing the top off the center of
the defense on a post and it kind of kept
that safety. Honest, the Rams have a little more to
study in the secondary than they had a week ago.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
All right, just quickly injuries. JSN had the head injury.
Buddha Baker, watch it, Buddha. You know you're beloved here.
You're not going to be for much longer with hits
like that. And then also Emon Warri holding his wrist late.
Those are two really important guys, what's the medical update
on them?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Well, both came right back into the game. Smith and
Jingwan didn't want to leave. The NFL concussion monitor in
the press box called down to the referee and told
him to take him out of the game for a
concussion evaluation, which is great, that's fine. That's how this
league should do it. And if a guy's even thought
if he gets hit near the head, they're gonna do that.
So that's what happened. They sent him in the concussion
guy on the sidelines in the red cap, and the
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NFL came into the tent, cleared him, came out fine,
went back in the game. No concussion. Even though Smith
said Jigmit said he was not happy about leiving. He
understood that's the protocol. No problem. The un Nicki wore
he did have a wrist hand thing. He said it
more just subsided. He went right back in and he
thinks he's gonna be fine. Didn't sound like it was
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a big deal. Jalen Sidell could be a bigger deal.
He's got a knee injury. Left in the first half.
We saw all with Timmy came in and had snap problem.
The third snap was fumbled, on the goal line. They
they said there's more tests to come on Sundell, but
McDonald didn't quite say, well, he's fine. He just said
he doesn't think right now it's season ending. But it
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wouldn't surprise me if Sindell's and practiced much this week
and if he doesn't play, that's a downgrade at the
middle of the offensive line against the Rams defensive front
on today.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
All right, well, thank you. We'll have a lot more
to discuss tomorrow. Go get some chicken soup. Take care
of yourself.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Greg.
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Thanks, Mom, You're right, I need I need to Yeah,
you fly from DC on no sleep. You're probably gonna
get DC to Seattle is not exactly a hop and
that's probably where I go.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
All right, we'll talk to you tomorrow then.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
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spent last week, in the last couple of weeks really
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during a Huskies by even they even had a bye
to show up and play like that, and we talked
about how the path was there for a possible run
to a playoff berth, but they had to win out. Well,
they didn't even get out of the gates here down
the stretch in the last quarter of the or last
third of the season, they go to Wisconsin. They take
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on a Badger's team that you know, the program's kind
of like hanging by a thread right now. It was snowy, slushy, windy,
even though Luke Fickle never looked bothered by it. That
is one guy that is impervious to the elements.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
I'll tell you that that was some chunky rain too.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
But the Dogs did not play like they were enjoying
the weather at all. They got out gained on the ground.
I don't know what happened to Jonah Coleman, not just
in the game, but just look like they had a
wrecking force of a running game at the beginning of
the year. You lost the turnover battle by minus two
and you know, and then, I mean, I don't think
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the offensive line played well. But the thing that I
have the biggest problem with, I think Demon Williams is
the best player on the team. I love the kid,
and I think he's got a really bright future. But
my goodness, I've heard of having bad pocket presence. Don
Williams runs into pressure. They could have the Badger's gonna
have one guy that beats that may beat his offensive lineman,
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and Demon's running right into him. He's got terrible pocket presence.
For how great he is and everything else, pocket presence
is not his cup of tea. He's not.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Yeah, I mean, he's young, so maybe that's part of it.
He's you know, obviously he's trying to figure out how
to quarterback where he can make all the throws. He's
unbelievably talented, and yet you also don't want to clip
his wings and be like, hey, protect yourself and don't
run so much at times.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
You got to be that dual threat guy.
Speaker 8 (22:59):
And that he runs just run away from pressure.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
Well he's obviously not trying to.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, it looks like he is.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
Yeah, he did the decision making. It's one of the
things I was watching Baker Mayfield yesterday. There was a
couple different times where he actually didn't even escape the
pressure that he was coming for, but it was almost
like he could his peripheral vision it seems better than most.
Like there's a guy coming from literally, you know, his side,
like ninety degrees from where he's looking, and he would
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recognize it. De Mon Williams doesn't have the same peripheral vision.
But yeah, so, I mean the offense ten points against
them is not good. The defense is only giving up thirteen.
But to for somehow for you to lose against a
team that was running a freshman fourth string quarterback out
there that I mean, they couldn't pass. Their best passer
was the punter on that fake punt. Yeah, I mean
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that's half of their passing game. The rest of their
three quarterbacks that they went through were like five for
fifteen for twenty four yards and you lose, and you
lost the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
It was.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
It was a disaster and coming off a bye come on,
and you play in the Pacific Northwest, weather shouldn't affect.
Speaker 8 (24:05):
You that much.
Speaker 9 (24:06):
No, And again, it wasn't even bad in the first half,
so you have no excuse. It didn't get really bad
until the second half.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
Maybe we just have to accept that this team was
going to take a step forward this year. But the
idea that this team was ever a playoff caliber team,
I don't know if they ever looked like that at
any time this year. I mean, we opened up the
window of possibility because of how the schedule kind of
mapped itself out, and it looked like you had a
favorable schedule the rest of the way until Oregon, where
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you could have it could have boiled down to one
game against your rival. But I mean, they just they're
not a playoff caliber team. They're just not. When we were.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
Talking early in the season about they were the number
one ranked offense and I was like, man, that seems premature.
I mean just because of who people play, not just them,
but just you get these games that skew the numbers
and the stats so much when you're and you know whatever,
you know some team that it doesn't even belong in
the field with you, and so I thought that was
a bit premature. But then they started looking like, okay,
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maybe they they had gotten more stout against the run game.
It did look like those long dbs were starting to
make it difficult on teams to try to pass against them.
And then you knew that Demon Williams could blow up
at any point in time, but he didn't yesterday. It
was or on Saturday, nothing really went the way they
were supposed to.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Got blown up thirteen to ten loss to the Wisconsin
Badgers on Saturday. We'll certainly talk more about it tomorrow
with coach new Heisel. Let's play some factor fiction.
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Where's that to go?
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Speaker 11 (29:46):
I couldn't believe the d log got the second one.
I was like, holy crap, it's him again. But uh,
the way that he attacked the ball te Night is
just awesome. And we haven't forced any fumbles yet all
this year on defense and we got two today. So oh,
it's awareness, it's just taking those opportunities.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
Was awesome, unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
And to see two plays like that in the same game,
I mean they looked like twins Night hitting Brissett, same
guy hits Brissette, ball pops loose, same way, very close.
Had to go to review Gene on the call. Yeah,
by the way hygiene and yep, it couldn't be overturned.
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I mean they were both fractions. It's very similar. And
there's DeMarcus Lawrence scooping it up without any problem, like
he's been doing it all his life and scores on
two touchdowns. I mean, certainly the Seahawks dominated in every
facet of this game, but man, you give a better
team fourteen points like that and game oba Yeah, yeah,
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definitely on the road.
Speaker 7 (30:46):
I mean you got to I think the call Cardinals
knew coming in here at what were they three and
five that you know, if there was any smidge and
of hope, you got to come in play a clean
game against a team that was rolling last week, and
and you got to come in there and try to,
you know, basically punch them in the mouth, and instead
you get punched in the mouth a couple times. I
mean at that point, they're just sitting on their butt
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in the corner, kind of buddy nose, buddy lip, looking
up like what do we do now? And they tried,
they tried to mount what they could, but there was
there was just nothing. No way you're coming back from
down thirty five zip and.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Look, I mean I know that, Lauren. And all credit
to Lawrence. He got the fumble return, he got the
two touchdowns, he did it in stride. It was great.
But I always give credit to the guy that causes
the fumble more so than I do to the guy
that just happens to be there picking it up and
running it in for the touchdown. So for Tyrese Knight
to have a day like that, you never know what
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that's gonna do for a young player to unlock their confidence,
for them to sit there and go, oh, I get it.
I'm faster, bigger, and stronger than all quarterbacks.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
I can go knock the ball out of their hands.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
I got it.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Coach, you can count on me and him Between him
and Neamiah Pritchett, who also needed a play, he also
needed some good film I think for his career that
play that he made in the back of the end
zone on Harrison knocking the ball both of them horizontal
to the ground to knock away the touchdowns. So just
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some spectacular plays by some young players who probably needed
some ata boys in the film.
Speaker 7 (32:28):
Studies, well, I think they were kind of going or
they I think their game plan was going to be
to go after Pritchet because he was in there for
the injured job, right, And I think that, you know,
I think that Tyres Knight where it was when you
have Ernest Jones out, You're thinking, Okay, how is this
kid gonna do? Like he's stepping into the quarterback role
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on the defense, call him plays and all that kind
of stuff. And yet it sounds like from Greg what
he was saying, and I read his article that they
basically did they designed a couple different blitz pack just
of coming up the middle at Jacoby Brissett on purpose
because he's not the mobile quarterback that you typically would do,
and so designing something that they hadn't seen on film yet.
(33:10):
And sure enough, I mean, if that's not the mastermind part,
now you still have to execute it, and you're not,
you'd have your backup guy in they're executing it. I
think both those two that we're talking about, that stepped
up for an injured player and next man up type
of thing, it speaks to your your depth on that
side of the ball for sure.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Well I'll take it to step further just quickly. I mean,
Tyle Katta and Drake Thomas just keep playing better every
single week. I mean, what embarrassment of riches? If you're
John Schneider, like man, I made some really good picks,
but it turns out I.
Speaker 8 (33:40):
Can bring anyone in here and he can turn them
into a good player. Yeah, what is that going to unlock?
Speaker 5 (33:46):
For me that I can just grab guys off the
street and put him in my starting lineup and they'll
make plays because of how good he is defensively. Boy,
we got a good thing going here.
Speaker 9 (33:57):
Yeah, it's a really good thing going, especially coming off
last week and worrying about the injury to Ernest Jones
and thinking like, well, what's that going to do to
this defense, and to have them have that game without him,
it was awesome.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Yeah, Tyres Knight makes the two big defensive plays and
the biggest pop. Drake Thomas made a great tackle for
loss in the game as well on the offensive side
of the ball. I mean, everything is fine, but obviously
things did get a little sloppy, particularly in the second half.
The team committed third to three turnovers, and most of
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those deep within their own territory, which, under normal circumstances,
red flags everywhere, sirens going off. Obviously, when you build
a thirty five nothing lead, it doesn't feel like we
weren't panic stricken over it. Nonetheless, as Greg Bell pointed out,
Sam Donald's had a few more fumbles, four of them
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this year, and he's only been sacked ten times. Mike
McDonald was asked about Sam Donald's job, job security, ball
security and whether or not it's a concern.
Speaker 11 (35:01):
No, no, those are those are things that we can
work operationally.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Well.
Speaker 11 (35:05):
The first one was with with with ol Lou. I
don't think it was his first snap, So that's something
we need to be better at. And happened again over
there in four minutes with Drew and Bryce.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
So we need to look at that.
Speaker 11 (35:14):
You know, we can't have the ball on the ground
on snaps.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
So no, not worried about it at all. But careless
turnovers they're worse than careless whispers, George Michael.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
Those are actually chaos whispers are quite nice, are they?
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Yeah? Oh? Are they?
Speaker 5 (35:28):
I thought that was a negative thing.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
I mean the way he sings about it makes me
think it's great.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
I think it's a warning.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Oh is it? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (35:34):
Yeah, I don't know the song you speak of, but
it sounds like I don't want careless I don't want
any careless going on. I don't want careless whispers and
I don't want careless balls.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
Oh yeah, I guess you're right. The words are bad,
but he just sings it so beautifully.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
It's just wonderful song.
Speaker 8 (35:48):
It's just great vocal performance.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Yeah, that's all I was thinking. But yeah, you're right,
it is bad.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Yeah, it's an omen Yeah, it's a warning.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (35:54):
Well it's not good to be sacked, you know, only
ten times and be careless enough that for of them
turn into flumbles, but or flumbles.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
Flumbles, you flumble of all around. You will lose flall games.
You're not careful, you will Uh yeah, I'm not worried
about it. I'm really I'm not.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Boy.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
That is boy, that is really looking at the glasses
half empty. If you come in on a Monday night
after your local football team dominated, like a few teams
I've seen in my life dominate over the course of
a two game span, and then be worried about careless
turnovers up thirty five. Yeah, so yeah, I mean it's
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something to discuss, something to work on, something to keep
an eye on. Certainly we need to do that.
Speaker 8 (36:42):
Ratio to improve, but it's a whole different level of
focus when you're up thirty five, eight minutes to go
in the second quarter and you're just trying to melt clock.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
All right. Coming up next on our program, we'll get
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That would have been a good move.
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Would have laughed so hard in Jackson Feltz's face. It's
Chuck Powell, It's Bucky Jacobson, It's Ashley Ryan with you
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Monday Night football at five point fifteen Packers versus Eagles Seahawks.
You heard the highlights Westwood one, Kevin Harlan, Trent Green
on the call. They doubled up the Arizona Cardinals forty
four to twenty two, but it was not that close.
They were up thirty eight to seven at one point
in the second quarter. They had at one point built
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up elite of thirty five to nothing with eight and
a half minutes left in the second quarter, and ended
up carrying the ball forty six times to just twelve
passes in the contest to just try and run out
the clock as quickly as possible with as little damage
as possible. We'll talk more about it with Creig Bell
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here in a little bit, but we can already start
thinking about that next game for the Seahawks. It's the
game of the year, certainly to this point, against the
Los Angeles Rams in LA this Sunday at one o'clock,
both teams at seven and two. On the year college football,
you'd Ufel to Wisconsin just a terrible, terrible loss. You
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can forget about any sort of playoff run for the Huskies.
It dissolved Saturday amid slush and rain and snow and
wind in Madison, Wisconsin. The Badgers took out the Dogs
thirteen to ten. Dub Hoops lost to Baylor last night
seventy eight to sixty nine. Not a bad showing against
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a ranked Baylor team and a top ranked a Baylor program.
Next up for Danny Spring and the Dogs will be
the Coogs this Friday at eight o'clock in Pullman. Cracking
at a very interesting back to back a couple of days,
they pulled out somehow a four to three win in
Saint Louis on Saturday, scored with zero point five seconds
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left in regulation to force it into overtime, where they
won it on a Shane Wright goal, but then lost
yesterday to the Dallas Stars two to one. They'll next
play Columbus tomorrow at home. Finally, the Sounder season ended.
Not finally got another story. Sounder season ended in a shootout,
So Minnesota takes two out of three, but never truly
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won a match. They just won two shootouts. We at
least won a match. Yeah, in the series, but it's
Minnesota that advances. The Sounder season comes to a close
MLB Awards season starts tonight. Manager of the Year will
be tomorrow MVP and that's the cow vote will be
on Thursday, Tonight's Rookie of the Year. But the MLB
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Awards season begins starting tonight. And of course, Lenny Wilkins
the big story today, passing away at the age of
eighty eight, legendary Seattle sports figure, basketball icon and pretty
much just respected, beloved throughout the entire sports community nationwide,
maybe even globally. Joining us now here on the program
(05:21):
is our Seahawks insider Greg Bell. All Right, a lot
to discuss with you today. Can we start with Lenny Wilkins.
Just any interaction that you've had with the legendary Lenny Wilkins.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Absolutely. One of the greatest things I've done was in
June on our radio station here. I'd spent two hours
in the studio with Lenny Wilkins and it was right
before the unveiling of his statue in front of Climate Pledgerina.
His son was there too, and we just talked about
just talked about his life and his impact on basketball
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in Northwest and across the world, and yeah, about him
being an ROTC cadetic Providence college back in the fifties
for the for Army ROTC. He was an Army lieutenant
and he was interested in my army background as well.
And it was a joy, absolutely thrill for me. Jessmond
McIntyre our producer, assistant station or program manager season when
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who set it up? And it was I was so grateful.
He's such a compassionate, giving, introspective. I had a ton
of agitide, you could say for Lenny Wilkins. He helped
so many people in the community, youth initiatives that he
did basketball non basketball. He always stayed in Seattle even
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after he left from being the coach and the player
that he was in the sixties and seventies and into
the as and he was in Cleveland when I was
growing up as a coach of the Cavaliers, and he
always had a home in Seattle and he always came back. Man,
was he respected universally respected. I'm glad you gave me
(07:05):
a chance to say how much I appreciate and will
always remember many welcomes for what he's done well beyond basketball.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Yeah, absolutely well, said Greg Bell with US our Seahawks Insider.
And so we do react to yesterday's forty four to
twenty two. When I know that there were different opinions
about this team when the season started. I think some
people had more positive than others. But I don't know
if anybody saw the dominance that they would display. This
league is not supposed to be dominated the way that
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it has, at least for six quarters. I mean, that's
about as well as you can expect an NFL team
to play against NFL competition for a six quarter stretch.
And so, yeah, things got a little sloppy and careless
in the second half trying to preserve a thirty one
point leader, thirty five point lead, But speak to just
(07:57):
how everything has clicked for those six quarters for the
Mike McDonald and the Hawks.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Yeah, you're right about NFL teams, and the margins are
usually so small and it's hard to do what they've
done the last two weeks. In the first halfs of games,
it was what's it was the first half of sixty six,
I think it was sixty nine to fourteen. The last
two weeks. In the first half of the last two games,
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it was thirty one seven and Washington and what was it,
thirty eight? Nothing at thirty eight whatever it was thirty five,
thirty eight seven yesterday. So yeah, sixty nine fourteen in
the first half of two games. And you're right, that
doesn't happen no matter who you're playing, that usually just
does not happened. The turnovers are the big thing, the
defense getting the turnovers, especially turnovers that become points. That's
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how you roll up a lead that quickly in this league.
That was like a lightning strike yesterday. De Marcus Lawrence
that when he did something that only three players have
done in one hundred years of NFL football back to
nineteen twenty five. And I only found two other guys
who returned two fumbles for touchdowns in the same game,
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and he did the exact same way. Well, Tyrese Knight,
Now there were two different blitzes. What's interesting about that
is we talked all last week, or at least I
did you guys listen to me talk about how Kyler
Murray not starting was going to be a boon for
Seattle's defensive front. Remember, we talked about talked about how
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it was just going to be a field day for
the defensive front against Jacoby Brissett because because Brissette stayed
in the pocket almost to a fault. He stays in
the pocket and just stands in there, and even when
pressure's coming, he stands in there and he throws the ball. Well,
that's exactly what the Seahawks feasted on yesterday. And after
the game, I asked Bier Murphy, how different was the
(09:56):
prep this week for Whenther you normally play in Arizona
going against ans kind of Murray, He said, oh, man,
we knew that Brissette was his words, a sitting duck,
and then he would just sit back there and we
would be able to go straight up the field at him.
De Marcus Lawrence said the same thing. He said, we
knew he wasn't going to escape the pocket. We knew
he'd be sitting right there. If we just ran straight
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up the field at him. It played right into the
strength of the Seahawks defense. And even in Bolden Mike
McDonald to blitz inside. He doesn't normally blitz a lot anyway,
and when he blitzes, it's usually off the edges. Right.
You can think of nickimn Worrie, you think of Devin Witherspoon,
(10:39):
you think of let's see the defensive backs blitzing off
the edge, not yesterday, Tyree Knight in the a gap
straight up the field, a vertical pass rush where they
didn't have to worry about the quarterback escaping the pocket.
And it was Tyree Snice's Knight's vertical inside pass rushes
on both of those tumble recoveries that created the touchdowns.
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And that's how it got from seven nothing to fourteen
nothing in a hurry, and then from twenty one US
in the twenty eight nothing in the first minute of
the second quarter. That played right into their strength. The
Seahawks won that game on Tuesday, when the Cardinals decided
that it was going to be Jacoby Brissett.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
Yeah, obviously the defense, those two you know, sack strips
and scoops and scores kind of set the tone and
they just took off after that. And regardless of what
happened in the third quarter and how they kind of,
you know, things kind of went off the rails a
little bit, they it didn't really matter at that point.
I'm curious the run game, I mean, essentially, this team,
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i mean runs the ball forty six times, because once
you get up thirty five zip, you're just thinking, okay,
let's get this thing to the end. Of the fourth
quarter as quickly as possible. They would have ran for
over two hundred yards as a as a group if
it wasn't for the Drew Locke, you know, kneel downs
at the end of the game that kind of bring
them back under that and so effective, I would say,
probably the most effective it's been by your your mate
(12:00):
two ball carriers at least, and even George Hallaney when
he came in just simply because they knew you were
going to run. I mean, it was obvious you weren't
going to keep passing the ball and trying to run
the score up. So how impressed were you with just
the way in which they ran this week?
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Well, I'm still not sold and I'm with you. Once
it became twenty eight thirty five, they were going to
run the rest of the game. They had a thirteen
play drive in the second half, and all thirteen plays
were runs. What was different was they Zach Sarbaey got
more than a yard or two on his carries. He
had a thirty yard run at one point yesterday he
ended up with eighty three yards. Kenneth Walker had a
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twenty four yard run. They did it on bouncing it
outside they the gap would be, the play would be
designed for inside, and then they'd kick it and bounce
it out. And that's how Charbon and Walker by both
of their runs. And it is the same thing the
Kubiak has done all year. He's just going to keep
running and yesterday by keep running, he eventually it broke
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and they got the yards. And Donald had a season
low twelve pass attempts and he's still on just ten completions.
At one hundred and seventy eight yards seventeen point eight
yards of completion, that's going to raise his average above
ten for yards per pass attempt, which is already leading
the NFL. And who even went up more yesterday. The
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biggest concern on the offense to me is Sam Donald
holding under the ball. Well, we've talked about that for
a couple months now. How when he gets pressure near him,
he tends to have some freaky turnovers, like Abe Lucas
his back hitting his Donald's arm at the end of
the San Francisco game in the red zone, losing a
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fumbled Nick Bosa. It was very similar yesterday when A J.
Barner got pushed into him and Donald threw a pass
off a Barner's helmet and became intercepted. He's throwing to
pass off another Tampa Bay Buccaneers helmet that got intercepted
at the end of the game and handed the Buccaneers
the winning points. As great as Donald has been, and
(14:01):
he has been, and I'm not here to say that
Sam DoLS she can run out of town, it's quite
the opposite. He still has ten turnovers in nine games.
He has seventeen touchdowns against six interceptions, and he has
four lost fumbles. What's alarmed in the story at the
News Tribune that posted this morning about this, what's alarming
about the fort fumbles, guys is He's only been sacked
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ten times all season, and on nearly half of those
he's lost the ball. That's a problem. When the guy
who is holding the ball sixty plus times a game
is dropping it at forty percent rate when he gets sacked,
that's an issue. And as great as their defense can be,
they'll lose to the Rams on Sunday if they turn
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the ball over. Now the defense again, even after the
turnovers again, two goal line stands turning the Cardinals away
on short fields, and the Cardinals only two touchdowns until
garbage time, we're on twenty yards or twenty two yard
total of the two drives to their touchdowns because the
Seahawks gave it up inside the ten yard line twice. Yeah,
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he's got a hold on the ball, period. He said it.
After the game, McDonald chocked up one of the fumbles
the center exchange with Little Timmy. It was the third
snap of the Little Timmy I'm going to come from
Jacob Sendell's injury. And then they fumbled again in the
fourth court on Mason Richmond was the center, or excuse
to be Brice Cable dow as the center. Tobacca quarterback
Drew Box. But the bottom line is they can't turn
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to Oliver and win on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Fair Greg Bell with us our Seahawks insider. Of course,
forty six rushes to twelve passes, that's going to skew
the pass run ratio stats for the rest of the
season when you put together a game like that, I
did want to ask you speaking of a balance. Rashid
Shaheed makes his debut for the Seahawks. I mean they
(15:48):
lined him up as a tailback in the I formation.
He was returning kicks. He obviously lined up at a
couple different places as a wide receiver. So were they
experimenting with him with a big lead. Is this indicative
of how they want to use him? Or are they
just you know, scratching the tip of the iceberg here?
Speaker 4 (16:07):
No, I think it's indicative. I talked to him after
the game. He was beaming. Man, he was so happy
to get out of New Orleans and into Seattle. The
week before he was in LA against for the Saints
against the Rams and they got smoked by LA. And
the Saints are one and eight at the time. And
I was thinking, as I was talking to me yesterday,
what a difference a week makes for him. Now he's
(16:27):
in the locker room where the music is just blaring.
Their in first place. They're going to LA next week
to play the Rams for first place in the division.
He must think he just Christmas came like four years
worth the Christmases cave for him in one week. He
said it was what he expected. I asked him if
that was more than he expect He said no. Once
I knew Horton was banged up, I knew I was
going to get the return games. And Horton didn't play
(16:50):
a course yesterday, and he said, this is clined Clint
Kubiak does with him. It's what he did in New
Orleans last year in the six games he played for
the Saints before he got injured. Talking about Shaheed, that
Kubiak will do that, he's going to move him around
the formations and runs fly sweeps. There's a few more
things he said in the playbook for him already that
they didn't use yesterday. So this is something of a
(17:12):
tip of the iceberg, but that's how they're going to
run Shaheed. Coober Cup talked after the game that he
could already tell the defenses the safeties had they couldn't
cheat as much to Jackson Smith and Jigba knowing that
Shaheed could be blowing the top off the center of
the defense on a post and it kind of kept
that safety. Honest, the Rams have a little more to
study in the secondary than they had a week ago.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
All right, just quickly injuries. JSN had the head injury.
Buddha Baker, watch it, Buddha. You know you're beloved here.
You're not going to be for much longer with hits
like that. And then also Emon Warri holding his wrist late.
Those are two really important guys, what's the medical update
on them?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Well, both came right back into the game. Smith and
Jingwan didn't want to leave. The NFL concussion monitor in
the press box called down to the referee and told
him to take him out of the game for a
concussion evaluation, which is great, that's fine. That's how this
league should do it. And if a guy's even thought
if he gets hit near the head, they're gonna do that.
So that's what happened. They sent him in the concussion
guy on the sidelines in the red cap, and the
(18:12):
NFL came into the tent, cleared him, came out fine,
went back in the game. No concussion. Even though Smith
said Jigmit said he was not happy about leiving. He
understood that's the protocol. No problem. The un Nicki wore
he did have a wrist hand thing. He said it
more just subsided. He went right back in and he
thinks he's gonna be fine. Didn't sound like it was
(18:33):
a big deal. Jalen Sidell could be a bigger deal.
He's got a knee injury. Left in the first half.
We saw all with Timmy came in and had snap problem.
The third snap was fumbled, on the goal line. They
they said there's more tests to come on Sundell, but
McDonald didn't quite say, well, he's fine. He just said
he doesn't think right now it's season ending. But it
(18:54):
wouldn't surprise me if Sindell's and practiced much this week
and if he doesn't play, that's a downgrade at the
middle of the offensive line against the Rams defensive front
on today.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
All right, well, thank you. We'll have a lot more
to discuss tomorrow. Go get some chicken soup. Take care
of yourself.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Greg.
Speaker 8 (19:09):
You've been just running yourself ragged and it's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Thanks, Mom, You're right, I need I need to Yeah,
you fly from DC on no sleep. You're probably gonna
get DC to Seattle is not exactly a hop and
that's probably where I go.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
All right, we'll talk to you tomorrow then.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
All right, all right, Greg Bell.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Get some rest. Go put some vixed Vapo rub on
your chick. Yeah, Greg, and we're socks to bed and
put it on your feet and put socks on you.
Put the Vapo rub on your feet too.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Ye Is that right?
Speaker 5 (19:39):
That sounds like it would make sense that what might work.
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during a Huskies by even they even had a bye
to show up and play like that, and we talked
about how the path was there for a possible run
to a playoff berth, but they had to win out. Well,
they didn't even get out of the gates here down
the stretch in the last quarter of the or last
third of the season, they go to Wisconsin. They take
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on a Badger's team that you know, the program's kind
of like hanging by a thread right now. It was snowy, slushy, windy,
even though Luke Fickle never looked bothered by it. That
is one guy that is impervious to the elements.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
I'll tell you that that was some chunky rain too.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
But the Dogs did not play like they were enjoying
the weather at all. They got out gained on the ground.
I don't know what happened to Jonah Coleman, not just
in the game, but just look like they had a
wrecking force of a running game at the beginning of
the year. You lost the turnover battle by minus two
and you know, and then, I mean, I don't think
(22:08):
the offensive line played well. But the thing that I
have the biggest problem with, I think Demon Williams is
the best player on the team. I love the kid,
and I think he's got a really bright future. But
my goodness, I've heard of having bad pocket presence. Don
Williams runs into pressure. They could have the Badger's gonna
have one guy that beats that may beat his offensive lineman,
(22:31):
and Demon's running right into him. He's got terrible pocket presence.
For how great he is and everything else, pocket presence
is not his cup of tea. He's not.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Yeah, I mean, he's young, so maybe that's part of it.
He's you know, obviously he's trying to figure out how
to quarterback where he can make all the throws. He's
unbelievably talented, and yet you also don't want to clip
his wings and be like, hey, protect yourself and don't
run so much at times.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
You got to be that dual threat guy.
Speaker 8 (22:59):
And that he runs just run away from pressure.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
Well he's obviously not trying to.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, it looks like he is.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
Yeah, he did the decision making. It's one of the
things I was watching Baker Mayfield yesterday. There was a
couple different times where he actually didn't even escape the
pressure that he was coming for, but it was almost
like he could his peripheral vision it seems better than most.
Like there's a guy coming from literally, you know, his side,
like ninety degrees from where he's looking, and he would
(23:26):
recognize it. De Mon Williams doesn't have the same peripheral vision.
But yeah, so, I mean the offense ten points against
them is not good. The defense is only giving up thirteen.
But to for somehow for you to lose against a
team that was running a freshman fourth string quarterback out
there that I mean, they couldn't pass. Their best passer
was the punter on that fake punt. Yeah, I mean
(23:48):
that's half of their passing game. The rest of their
three quarterbacks that they went through were like five for
fifteen for twenty four yards and you lose, and you
lost the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
It was.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
It was a disaster and coming off a bye come on,
and you play in the Pacific Northwest, weather shouldn't affect.
Speaker 8 (24:05):
You that much.
Speaker 9 (24:06):
No, And again, it wasn't even bad in the first half,
so you have no excuse. It didn't get really bad
until the second half.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
Maybe we just have to accept that this team was
going to take a step forward this year. But the
idea that this team was ever a playoff caliber team,
I don't know if they ever looked like that at
any time this year. I mean, we opened up the
window of possibility because of how the schedule kind of
mapped itself out, and it looked like you had a
favorable schedule the rest of the way until Oregon, where
(24:35):
you could have it could have boiled down to one
game against your rival. But I mean, they just they're
not a playoff caliber team. They're just not. When we were.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
Talking early in the season about they were the number
one ranked offense and I was like, man, that seems premature.
I mean just because of who people play, not just them,
but just you get these games that skew the numbers
and the stats so much when you're and you know whatever,
you know some team that it doesn't even belong in
the field with you, and so I thought that was
a bit premature. But then they started looking like, okay,
(25:08):
maybe they they had gotten more stout against the run game.
It did look like those long dbs were starting to
make it difficult on teams to try to pass against them.
And then you knew that Demon Williams could blow up
at any point in time, but he didn't yesterday. It
was or on Saturday, nothing really went the way they
were supposed to.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Got blown up thirteen to ten loss to the Wisconsin
Badgers on Saturday. We'll certainly talk more about it tomorrow
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We needed to absorb the music. Really, I'm glad you didn't, Okay,
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Speaker 9 (29:45):
Is.
Speaker 11 (29:46):
I couldn't believe the d log got the second one.
I was like, holy crap, it's him again. But uh,
the way that he attacked the ball te Night is
just awesome. And we haven't forced any fumbles yet all
this year on defense and we got two today. So oh,
it's awareness, it's just taking those opportunities.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
Was awesome, unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
And to see two plays like that in the same game,
I mean they looked like twins Night hitting Brissett, same
guy hits Brissette, ball pops loose, same way, very close.
Had to go to review Gene on the call. Yeah,
by the way hygiene and yep, it couldn't be overturned.
(30:23):
I mean they were both fractions. It's very similar. And
there's DeMarcus Lawrence scooping it up without any problem, like
he's been doing it all his life and scores on
two touchdowns. I mean, certainly the Seahawks dominated in every
facet of this game, but man, you give a better
team fourteen points like that and game oba Yeah, yeah,
(30:45):
definitely on the road.
Speaker 7 (30:46):
I mean you got to I think the call Cardinals
knew coming in here at what were they three and
five that you know, if there was any smidge and
of hope, you got to come in play a clean
game against a team that was rolling last week, and
and you got to come in there and try to,
you know, basically punch them in the mouth, and instead
you get punched in the mouth a couple times. I
mean at that point, they're just sitting on their butt
(31:08):
in the corner, kind of buddy nose, buddy lip, looking
up like what do we do now? And they tried,
they tried to mount what they could, but there was
there was just nothing. No way you're coming back from
down thirty five zip and.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Look, I mean I know that, Lauren. And all credit
to Lawrence. He got the fumble return, he got the
two touchdowns, he did it in stride. It was great.
But I always give credit to the guy that causes
the fumble more so than I do to the guy
that just happens to be there picking it up and
running it in for the touchdown. So for Tyrese Knight
to have a day like that, you never know what
(31:41):
that's gonna do for a young player to unlock their confidence,
for them to sit there and go, oh, I get it.
I'm faster, bigger, and stronger than all quarterbacks.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
I can go knock the ball out of their hands.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
I got it.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Coach, you can count on me and him Between him
and Neamiah Pritchett, who also needed a play, he also
needed some good film I think for his career that
play that he made in the back of the end
zone on Harrison knocking the ball both of them horizontal
to the ground to knock away the touchdowns. So just
(32:20):
some spectacular plays by some young players who probably needed
some ata boys in the film.
Speaker 7 (32:28):
Studies, well, I think they were kind of going or
they I think their game plan was going to be
to go after Pritchet because he was in there for
the injured job, right, And I think that, you know,
I think that Tyres Knight where it was when you
have Ernest Jones out, You're thinking, Okay, how is this
kid gonna do? Like he's stepping into the quarterback role
(32:49):
on the defense, call him plays and all that kind
of stuff. And yet it sounds like from Greg what
he was saying, and I read his article that they
basically did they designed a couple different blitz pack just
of coming up the middle at Jacoby Brissett on purpose
because he's not the mobile quarterback that you typically would do,
and so designing something that they hadn't seen on film yet.
(33:10):
And sure enough, I mean, if that's not the mastermind part,
now you still have to execute it, and you're not,
you'd have your backup guy in they're executing it. I
think both those two that we're talking about, that stepped
up for an injured player and next man up type
of thing, it speaks to your your depth on that
side of the ball for sure.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Well I'll take it to step further just quickly. I mean,
Tyle Katta and Drake Thomas just keep playing better every
single week. I mean, what embarrassment of riches? If you're
John Schneider, like man, I made some really good picks,
but it turns out I.
Speaker 8 (33:40):
Can bring anyone in here and he can turn them
into a good player. Yeah, what is that going to unlock?
Speaker 5 (33:46):
For me that I can just grab guys off the
street and put him in my starting lineup and they'll
make plays because of how good he is defensively. Boy,
we got a good thing going here.
Speaker 9 (33:57):
Yeah, it's a really good thing going, especially coming off
last week and worrying about the injury to Ernest Jones
and thinking like, well, what's that going to do to
this defense, and to have them have that game without him,
it was awesome.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Yeah, Tyres Knight makes the two big defensive plays and
the biggest pop. Drake Thomas made a great tackle for
loss in the game as well on the offensive side
of the ball. I mean, everything is fine, but obviously
things did get a little sloppy, particularly in the second half.
The team committed third to three turnovers, and most of
(34:28):
those deep within their own territory, which, under normal circumstances,
red flags everywhere, sirens going off. Obviously, when you build
a thirty five nothing lead, it doesn't feel like we
weren't panic stricken over it. Nonetheless, as Greg Bell pointed out,
Sam Donald's had a few more fumbles, four of them
(34:50):
this year, and he's only been sacked ten times. Mike
McDonald was asked about Sam Donald's job, job security, ball
security and whether or not it's a concern.
Speaker 11 (35:01):
No, no, those are those are things that we can
work operationally.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Well.
Speaker 11 (35:05):
The first one was with with with ol Lou. I
don't think it was his first snap, So that's something
we need to be better at. And happened again over
there in four minutes with Drew and Bryce.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
So we need to look at that.
Speaker 11 (35:14):
You know, we can't have the ball on the ground
on snaps.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
So no, not worried about it at all. But careless
turnovers they're worse than careless whispers, George Michael.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
Those are actually chaos whispers are quite nice, are they?
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Yeah? Oh? Are they?
Speaker 5 (35:28):
I thought that was a negative thing.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
I mean the way he sings about it makes me
think it's great.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
I think it's a warning.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Oh is it? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (35:34):
Yeah, I don't know the song you speak of, but
it sounds like I don't want careless I don't want
any careless going on. I don't want careless whispers and
I don't want careless balls.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
Oh yeah, I guess you're right. The words are bad,
but he just sings it so beautifully.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
It's just wonderful song.
Speaker 8 (35:48):
It's just great vocal performance.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Yeah, that's all I was thinking. But yeah, you're right,
it is bad.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Yeah, it's an omen Yeah, it's a warning.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (35:54):
Well it's not good to be sacked, you know, only
ten times and be careless enough that for of them
turn into flumbles, but or flumbles.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
Flumbles, you flumble of all around. You will lose flall games.
You're not careful, you will Uh yeah, I'm not worried
about it. I'm really I'm not.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Boy.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
That is boy, that is really looking at the glasses
half empty. If you come in on a Monday night
after your local football team dominated, like a few teams
I've seen in my life dominate over the course of
a two game span, and then be worried about careless
turnovers up thirty five. Yeah, so yeah, I mean it's
(36:36):
something to discuss, something to work on, something to keep
an eye on. Certainly we need to do that.
Speaker 8 (36:42):
Ratio to improve, but it's a whole different level of
focus when you're up thirty five, eight minutes to go
in the second quarter and you're just trying to melt clock.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
All right. Coming up next on our program, we'll get
the thoughts on that and many other things of Hugh
Millin also coach Home. It's Monday morning, quarterback time.
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