November 24, 2025 • 37 mins
MMQB begins with HUGH MILLEN Did Hugh have any concerns coming away from yesterday’s win and close things ended up? Should we be criticizing the defense for allowing the Titans to get back into the game? What did Hugh think of Sam Darnold’s rebound after last week? Analyzing the connection between Darnold and JSN. :30- More MMQB with Hugh and we discuss just how skilled JSN really is and what happened on that 63-yard touchdown. :45- We wrap up the first hour of MMQB with Hugh and some Husky talk. Should the Dawgs consider Jedd Fisch already?]
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Now the Monday Morning Quarterback with Mike hom Grin and
Hugh Millin.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Here's Chuck and Buck.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Welcome back to the chuck'm buck in the Morning Show.
It is the time that everybody has been waiting for.
It is the time when we get to talk to
the one and only Hugh breedlove one. You know that
your middle name is coming up whenever I'm the one
driving the bus, right all good.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
It's all good.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
It's the coolest middle name in the history of middle names.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I'm not kidding. I don't know about that.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
I didn't like it as a kid, but but it's
my uh my grandma on my dad's side, Grandma Grandma
Grandma Jean was a breed Love. So yeah, but pull
family name. It's a great cool It almost sounds like
a native it does you know a Native American?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yes, breed Love sitting Cloud. Yeah, yeah, I could. I
could see that. I could be with you guys.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Good, good to have you, brother. I obviously, uh Seahawks
end up pulling out the w right. Any any win
in the NFL is is something that you just say,
all right, we'll chalk that one up. And yet it
was different than what you don't make predictions and give scores,
and understandably so because it's I don't think anybody really
(02:01):
knows what the heck they're talking about when we do that.
And yet I didn't think it was going to end
up being as close. General thoughts that you got that
you took away from it, considering you went against what
is now one in ten team and you came it
came down to whether or not they're getting an on
side kick and you maybe start sweating it a little
bit overall.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Tops well, I think you touched on it. I think
that you get a win on the road in the NFL,
you stay healthy. You know, think of on a golf
on a score court, there's an index for every hole,
the handicap on the hole, right, and and and so
you look on a seventeen game schedule, this these Titans,
this was.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
The easiest hole.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
This is a short par four with a wide fair
way and a really relatively accessible green. Right, and now
the difference breaks down. You say, well, I would expect,
you know, try and birdy that. But you know, in
football it's you know, it's like par or not par,
win or not win, right, So you get your par.
(03:01):
What if you like to maybe played the whole little better? Fine,
but you know, I think it's real a couple things
for me. That was a really emotional game last week
against the Rams. So now you're you're flying across the country.
The Seahawks have been great, going to three time zones,
playing at ten am.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
There.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Their inability to you know, to step on the throat
of inferior teams has not been a problem. Think of
the nor NaNs games, think of Jacksonville, think of Arizona.
You know they they have been about as good as
anybody in that regard. So if if I told you
before the season, the Seahawks are going to win all
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their games against the poor teams, but one of them,
you know, you're going to get a late touchdown less
than a minute. I don't know, did they backdoor cover?
What was the spread? I sah, yeah, it was like
thirteen and a half, right, okay, so so they backed
or cover under a minute? You know, I I just
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don't think it's a problem. I think that uh what
if it would you you like to be a little better? Yeah,
But I don't think it. I don't think it's one
of those things where you say, this is really a
phenomenal job of keeping your your throttle down, and so
(04:25):
it's they're worthy of praise. I don't think they're worthy
of criticism. I just think it's kind of one of
those It wasn't the best job, but it was, Uh,
it was sufficient. And in the NFL, you just pick
up your ball and you go to the next hole.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yep, No, I'm with you. I'm not one.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I mean, you got to give credit where credit's due.
It still is an NFL team. It's not like they
were playing you know, wasn't u c l A No
exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
The NFL equivalent of the Bruins.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Man that was that was that was ugly. We'll get
into that maybe a little bit later as well, Hugh.
I mean to me, if there was a an amount
of criticism that I would give, it would pretty much
go up to and stop at. There's a recipe that
you try to come up with, right all week you're
thinking about it, what do we need to do to
beat this team? The recipe that they had I don't
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feel would probably beat a superior team. Let's just go
back a week against you know, Matthew Stafford. If you
allow an opponent to go six for seventeen and third down,
which isn't horrible, but five for seven or four for seven,
I keep mixing that. I believe it was five for
seven on fourth down. You're probably not going to win
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that game. Now, again, you don't get to fourth downs
unless you're They're not going to go for it seven
times unless you're ahead by multiple scores, and so it
kind of plays into that. So just reading the whole thing.
It just felt like, okay, if you get if you
jump out to a lead, then I want you to
put somebody away. And yet that's not it's not necessarily
(05:59):
something that needs to be overly criticized, like you're saying, right.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I know you're yeah, you're up by two touchdowns with
forty seven seconds to go in the game. One of
them was a ninety yard punt return. So the defense
until forty seven seconds to go had yielded ten points.
And you know, look they backed off the gas more
than they had in those other games that I mentioned.
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So so yeah, you know, there's also some guys that
were playing that that are not you know, Ernest Jones
wasn't playing that. That's a big factor. So some of
the mistackles we saw. We saw some really good play
by by Patrick O'Connell when he was playing in a
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phone booth, but when he had to play out in space,
he showed some of his his limitations. Although I thought
he played a pretty gay game. You know, when when
it was up, when you're up thirty to ten, okay,
they hit you for a post on a post wheel
concept up the right sideline. Well, the flat defender he
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has what's called CFW, a curl flat wheel in that
in that coverage, well, you have him to the flat
and what's the W part of that wheel? You got
to take him up the sideline. Well that was in
a zone blitz with boy Mafey off in the flat.
He's not going to cover a wheel. So you know
that the good on them. They they hit you on
that time. Third and and and then there was a
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time where they played Cover two and I mean I
had to watch it like four times. I'm like, wait
a minute, that's a two deep five under the middle
guy that's that's what you call him the Michael linebacker.
That was Josh Joeb Like, what the hell is I
haven't seen Josh Joe play the the hook zone in
cover two the entire season. Uh, you know there's a scramble.
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And by the way, cam Ward, I've studied this guy
a long time. My son started against him twice in college,
so I've seen him live a lot. He played for
the Cougars. I studied a ton of them in Miami.
The thirty third team asked me to present him a
few weeks back. I've watched a ton of cam Ward.
That guy he doesn't have elite athleticism. He has very
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good athleticism, but he has I would say borderline elite
feel in the pocket. Now, sometimes he's late and he
doesn't have elite anticipation by quarterback standards, but when he
starts playing that that off script game, you know, I mean,
his his ability to feel open spots in the pocket
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is his next level. And he didn't have a great
team around him, but but he kind of burned the
Seahawks I thought. I thought that was a big factor.
A number of times, his his kind of instincts in
the pocket was tough to defend. I mean, there was
a time where he uh he he scrambles forward on
his own coverage and and and that was the one
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with Josh Job over the middle, and and he does
a no look pass on third and five. I'm like, what,
I mean, who's doing no look passes other than Patrick Mahomes.
And and then and then there's an intensity. I mean,
he has a scramble touchdown and you look at guys
were playing so tall and just kind of catching blocks.
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You would almost think the whistle blew and the Seahawks
just stopped playing. There was just a noted lack of intensity.
But the score was thirty to ten, and uh, you
know Patrick O'Connell missed. You know, he's he's not in there.
And then twenty three. I always want to call him,
it's de Anthony Bell. So they had guys in there
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that are hardly ever in there. Those guys were the
ones at the point of attack. So I think I
just think it was a lot of different factors. I
don't expect it to carry over. And I'll tell you
what I bet you Mike McDonald on that plane was
driving back or driving back, flying back and saying that's
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perfect because we won the game. We stayed healthy as
far as I know, we don't have any additional injuries.
And yet we got some lessons. We can talk about focus,
we can talk about breakdowns and in ways that you
couldn't in some of you know, the Commanders, the Jaguars,
the Cardinals, the Saints, all of those total blowouts, it's
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harder to get the team's attention about, hey, this is
a breakdown here. We got to fix this. And so
they'll be able to point to some things and be
able to fix them.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Right, well, what would need to be fixed when it
comes to our quarterback. I mean Sam Darnold good game,
decent game, two touchdowns, no picks. It wasn't There was
a couple balls that probably could have went the other direction.
But coming off of this game that he had last
week and all of the stuff that came down after that,
people were, you know, second guessing this, that and the other.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
How he rebound to you, I thought he looked real good.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I think, you know, they're not to say he didn't
have any minuses on his sheet, but but he cranked
up the big plays. He was productive. He you know,
he navigated the pocket. I mean, I know we're gonna
be talking about those JSN touchdowns here in a minute
and some of his progress. But but his uh, his
his reads were for the most part good. I think
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there was a couple of times, you know, he had
he threw that out route down in the red zone
off to his left. The js N was a little
too high for him. Uh that was a press coverage
what's called oki route. That's that's kind of hard against
press coverage. Had he worked the combination on the front side,
he had Cooper cup wide open. Uh, might have been
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a walk in touchdown on a little choice route where
he broke inside. So I think his recognition on on
that and and a couple other plays where he you know,
I think he predetermined some routes. It looked like he
pre determined to throw to Rashid Chihat on that post
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where he got hit. So I would I would, I
would dig him for his pocket awareness in the pre
UH determination. But I think they're still working on Resid
Shaheed and trying to get him because when when they
were acquired Rashid Shaheed, it felt to me like, Okay,
that's just kind of a luxury acquisition. I don't quite
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feel that way now. I feel like it's a little
bit more of a necessity with UH, with Tory Horton's injury,
and and while Cooper Cup has been a great addition
in terms of in the building and how he's impacted others,
notably JSN and and everybody, so I think it's almost
like you acquired a coach, but it has not been
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productive on the field.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
So I think that.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Rashid Shaheed was more of a necessity. That's my opinion today,
more so than it was on November fourth when he
was acquired. And and and so they're still trying to
work like they had a wrap route where they had
a j barner kind of sit and try and hold
the cheese for the linebacker and then you're gonna he's
at the short level barner, and then you're gonna get
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an inbreaking route with Shaheed coming in behind it. Well,
Sam Donald reads there's a Initially at the snap of
the ball, he sees a safety to his left. Okay,
this'll be Sam Donald. We're in shotgun. We see the say, okay,
safety's over the apparently over the top of of Jackson
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Smith and Jigba to double him over the top. But
we have to confirm that on post snap and then
and then now post snap, the safety comes down to
play in what's called the hook zone. So think of
in this defense it was' I've referenced it to now baseball,
infeld and outfield. So imagine the guy, the guy who's
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ultimately going to be in the shortstop position that's the
hook zone defense on the left, but he starts kind
of left center. Got me sore. Pre snap, he's in
left center. Now he drops down and he's he's your shortstop.
Well Donald sees that and he wants to hold him
up because the uh to carry out the analogy, Rashi
chi hed Is is going over the top of this
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end behind the second baseman, going right over the middle
of the field, right over the top of second base.
But you gotta worry about the shortstop coming over who
came down from left center. So Donald sees the coverage,
he's trying to hold him up, but Rashid chih he doesn't.
He's flying like a bat out of hell into the
next window and and in zone. That's Those are the
type of things where where you see JSN just intuitively,
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he just knows. He's just like I know exactly how
to be quarterback friendly. I'm gonna turn my full numbers.
My quarterback wants to see my front number, my front
jersey number, as opposed to my side jersey number, which
he would see if I was screaming through. And so
I'm gonna show him my front numbers that I'm idling
down in boom and then you get an easy completion.
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But for them to have missed on that play, Eliza
Royo man, I had done my homework last week about
all the second round tight ends, where the hell is
the list? But you're getting nothing out of Eliza Royo
so you know, there's some things I would have liked
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to have worked on for Sam Darnold, But so I
think those are still a work in progress, and hopefully
before you tee up the RAMS on December eighteenth, you
can still develop these things.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Right, and there is time for that. I mean, we're
getting close to it. But I do want to ask
one thing. When you're talking about being familiar, right, you
were talking about Rashid Jaheed and they're trying to figure
that out.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I think Arroyo might fall into that same category. Right.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
He was just drafted and he had training camp versus
you see the picture before training camp where Jackson Smith
and Jigbu and Cooper Cup and aj Barner and it
wasn't I ain't know Barnell was there too, where they're
all getting balls thrown to them by Sam. So how
I mean, we don't have much time, but how how
easy is it to acquire that familiarity?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Uh? It takes a while, the precisions in the details.
Some guys are easier to read. There's more of a
cohesion early on with guys, there's a mesh. Obviously, Sam
Darlng came in and he could just read JSN like
like Braille right, others guys, it takes longer Rashichi, he
doesn't is not as instinctive. But uh, and here's my
(16:27):
list of my kind of my beef. Now, Uh, the
way I works sometimes, you know, I have I have
kind of a theme. Maybe I'm gonna take the kg
A radio oka I'm gonna get I'm gonna give you
Bucky a window into my thoughts. And I say, wait
a minute, I've watched some tape I've got. I got
a little hunch, I got a little feeling in my gut.
Let me see if I can find some facts to
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kind of support my my hypothesis. And and then I
come and usually if I can find those facts, I
come in you know, blazon on that take right candidly,
my my, the facts didn't support my hypothesis as much
as I had thought it does to some degree. And
here's what I thought. I looked at Eliza Royo coming
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into He's on the pace for twenty coming into this week.
Now it's uh, it's a slip because he didn't have
anything yesterday, but he was on the pace for twenty
four catches two hundred and ninety six yards. I said,
I'm gonna look at Trey McBride second round. They're both
second round pick. Trey McBride was the fifty fifth pick.
Arroyo was the fiftieth man. I bet, I bet Trey
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McBride and his rookie year just smoked it. Well, not really.
He only had twenty nine catches for two sixty five
almost so. But and then Pat Fryarmouth for the Steelers, Ah,
he had sixty catches for four ninety seven. Cole Comet
twenty eight catches. The big guy, the big guy, if
I wanted to really bring it, is Sam Laporta. You know,
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he had eighty six catches for eight hundred and eighty
nine yards. So I think that's a little bit of
a mixed bag. But for the most part, I'll hold
to my my take, which is that you're not getting
enough out of Elijah Royal to as of today to
have justified using the fiftieth pick on him. There's a
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lot of time to advance. As we said, Trey McBride
certainly vaulted from year two and beyond, so so we'll see.
But I'm just looking and saying, how the hell are
we gonna beat the Rams? That's not necessarily what Mike
McDonald's thinking. He probably has it in the back of
his mind, like we got to keep getting better. That's
one thing I learned on Don. You'd learned a lot
from your high school or college baseball coach. I learned
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a lot from Don James's you have to keep getting
better during the season. He would repeat that over and over.
We have to improve, we got to be better, keep going,
keep and so I think as we sit there and say, Okay,
what can what can how can Sam Donald be better
against the Rams? It's some of those things. A better
feel was shed say maybe Eliza Royo poppin h but uh,
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you know, right, but let's not do anything to detract
from what's going on with JSM Right.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Well, we're going to dive into that. I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
That was one of the things last night that I
was I can't wait to hear what you think about this.
How you can give us some insight of the tricks
of the trade that this guy obviously has.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
We'll dive into Jackson.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
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Speaker 4 (19:46):
But really a great asset that they brought in Starnold
with time going up top for Jackson Smith and Jack drops.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
It at the bucket. How he woke backpedal for a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
So that is Jackson Smith and Jigba. I am Bucky Jacobson.
That's Ashley Ryan and we are joined for another better
part of two hours. Here another five segments with the
one and only Hugh Millan. Hugh that catch yesterday. I
want to dive into that a little bit because I
think you can give some insight. I'm watching it and
(20:20):
there's something about the recognizing the ball and I know
I've heard you talked about this before.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
You can dive into it further, like.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
How quickly Jackson Smith and Jigba seems to recognize where
the ball is actually going to come in relation to
how fast he's running whereas defender is because to me
it looked like he almost slows up, shields him off
with his body, then accelerates a tiny bit, puts his
hand out just not a push off, but just a yeah,
that's as close as you get, and then it drops
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it in the bucket. I mean, is there are you
seeing the same things that I'm seeing? Or am I
imagining something when it comes to this dude's ball skills?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Yeah, well you know this from outfielders. You know how
they have to you know, track the ball right off
the crack of the bat. You know that's that's a
key component. I mean, if it takes you a split
second longer and you take a bad first step on
an angle, then you can make a play in the
gap look really difficult or not make the play. Whereas
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if you know somebody who just has that in eight sense,
they just kind of glide over and they make it
look routine.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Right.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Well, on that play third and six at the minus
thirty seven, here's a a couple of key points. It's
the Seahawks are on a trip right, trip's right, and
the defense would call that the JSN was like he
motioned over. He lines up as number three counting outside in,
so he's the inside guy out of three, he's going.
They were able with the motion and everything in the coverage,
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they were able to match up against a safety number
thirty seven, a Moni Hooker. So hooker is in outside leverage.
He has the coverages man and man. There's a post
safety deep, but because they're only rushing four instead of five,
there's also a shallow hole player. So think of it
like a deep free safety in center field and then
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a shallow free safety in the in the UH in
the low middle. So he's he's trying to funnel any
in breaking route and he has outside leverage on an
outbreaking route. So as as Jaysn goes up the field
based on that, Now I just described the outside leverage.
That's a horizontal UH relationship I'm describing. And there's also
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what's called the high shoulder or the low shoulder. If
he were to get excessively the defender excessively on the
high shoulder, meaning way down the field, you could JSN
could cross his face and and flatten it. But because
he was more or less even, Jasn says, okay, we're
even I'm leaving. I'm going over the top. I'm taking
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a high angle. But from a quarterback perspective. You say,
wait a minute, that I got. I'm trying to throw
an outbreaking route and the defenders on the outside leverage
and JSN does not have elite long speed against a corner,
but it's against the safety, so he has a step.
And then now it's what you're talking about. Donald throws
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the ball high. It was the NFL measured it at
forty three air yards. That's from the line of scrimmage.
I calculated because I'm a nerd, and a a square
plus B squared is C squared if you calculate the
uh the hypot news, that's a fifty three yards in
the air Okay, from the hand of of of Donald
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until it arrives at JSN. Now, as you said, here's
the part about JSN that has flat out elite as
good as as as any of the receivers who's ever
played this game. When he turns and and he's locating
that ball, as you said, he'll slow down, he'll he
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use his body and and and he also it also
did it in the red zone. And maybe we'll have
time to describe that. But that hand fighting, he's just
totally immune to the distraction. And then the hand push
the Utah talked about. This is just the high IQ
Michael Irvin had it. I played with him where where
there's a subtlety to to It's like goldilocks in the porch.
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Not too hot, not too cold. How much am I
going to push off on the defender? Not too little
because I won't get the separation to make the play.
Not too much, I'll get an OPI it's just right.
And it's always just right with this guy. And then
and then and then just the ability, the late hands ability,
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it's like if it touches his hands, it's it's like
it's like he's got I don't know, flypaper. That sounds
like a week old analogy. But but he just refuses
to drop a ball that is remotely catch a ball,
particularly those deep ones. Tyler Lockett had a little bit
of that skill, but this guy, uh, just the but
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he would.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Use his body.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
This guy can and just got with guys, you know,
grabbing in his arms and knelbles and pushing and running
full speed and slowing down as you said, I mean,
it's just incredible. It's also worth noting, uh that ball
was it was held three three point zero seconds. Is
what the NFL had that the the offensive line because
it's third down. There was a to the outside of
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of Abe Lucas was a what a five technique which
is outside the tackle, and then there's a nine technique
way out there. So the the Titans had widened their
defensive line what uh, in ways that you would never
do on first and second down. And so at the
snap of the ball, Gray's Abel he's blocking the three
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technique outside the the right side of the line, Bradford
and Lucas are are blocking those guys, and the the
vision that opened up, you could see a thousand pass
plays you're never gonna see better, a better protection better.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
It was like it was like seven on seven for
Sam Darnold. There was no around him, nobody in his
vision and he was able to.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
You watch his steps and he takes three hitches on
the play because he thought he was going to a
shorter route. But he he's able to take three steps
and hold the ball and wait for all this to
develop because of how Tennessee played it in the pass blocking,
so a lot going into that. But JSN is just
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next level at finishing. That's what I put on my notes.
How he can finish because you know, because one thing
to go, you know, unless you have a guy that
that can actually close the sale when the ball is
is right there to be caught, the rest of it
doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Right.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Yeah, Well, I mean that's an awesome breakdown to the
We're gonna get a little bit more into that when
we have Homegun next hour, just because there's a part
of Greg Bell said, I'd felt like I saw like
glimpses of a Jerry Rice, and I just thought, oh
my gosh, that's a name to come up. But you
just said that his ball skills or that maybe it's
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the finishing way in which he can finish is as
good as anybody.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
That you've seen. So I would not go ahead. I'm sorry. Well,
I'm just saying we're going to get into that some more.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I'm gonna be able to have you and Coach kind
of go back and forth a little bit about JSN
when we get him on the air.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
But Ice would not be my comp I'll just say
that I got a couple other ideas, but Rice would
not be my comp would be interesting to see what
Coach Holmgren says.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
I would have a hard time thinking he's going to
say he's his comp either, even while he's given him
as many accolades as he deserves at this point, being
the all time leading Seahawks receiver for a single season
is pretty impressive when you have six games to go.
So on the other side of this, though, Hugh, I
want to get into a little bit about the college
coaching situation at this point in time. I get some
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vacancies and whatnot. So listeners stick around and we'll be
back here at Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Placement down.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
They're gonna fake it, throw it over the shoulder, and
the ball's gonna get picked up. Smclough Lee's off and
running hit the fifteenth. There he goes anually right side.
Oh it's mclough little go all the way his second
touchdown of the year, and the Washington Husky's taken intended
trick playing by u CLA and turn it into a
brewing disaster.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
A bruin disaster hurts your heart, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Oh that's I don't think there's anything makes you happier
other than maybe a duck disaster.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
You might like that more would make me really happy.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Oh boy, o boy, that was quite the butt whooping.
Welcome back to Sports Radio ninety three point three. KJRFM
is Chuck and Buck Show minus Chuck, but we still
got Ashley and we got the normal Monday morning quarterback
dose of Hugh Milling. Hugh, I wanted to ask just
the idea of college football, the college coaching, you know,
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all these openings that are out there right now, general
thought on what's going on in that situation.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Well, I think it's unprecedented. All the movement we're going
to see. It's going to be a gigantic game of
musical chairs. And if you were to take out a
piece of paper and put on the top November twenty fourth,
and then proceed to say, okay, fill in all the
predictions for what coaches are going to go to what spots,
and then have a wildcard section for other jobs are
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going to come open, because as guys fill these jobs,
other jobs are going to come open. I think that
if you were to read that in two months, me included,
we'd all be just like, oh my god, goodness, we
could have never foreseen this. Back on November twenty fourth,
I think Lane Kiffin is the He's the first domino,
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and I was shocked by the release that Ole Miss
had look it up online. But essentially, it sure looks
to me like they are anticipating that Lane Kiffin's gone.
There's you know, let's talk about LSU possibly Florida, but
everything's gonna start shifting from there. And I did I
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did note that that Dan Lanning. Uh, he was on
game day and he said, and I quote, he goes,
this is my spot. I'm gonna be here forever. Now
he's not bound to that. He could take the LSU
LSU job, and then he could turn around and say, well,
that's what I thought when I said it last week.
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But then you know that was based on a set
of assumptions and and I got more money or or
you know whatever. And so, uh, these coaches are in
a tough position when asked by the media, and uh,
and they take different tacks. But you know, I'm gonna
be surprised if Lank Giffen is the coach at ole
Miss next year. And I think there's gonna be a
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lot of surprises in behind it.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah, it is nuts the way, And I don't, like
you said, I don't really fault the coaches. I well,
I felt ill the system, right, It's just and you
play the game that you play, and so if it's
one of those where you can get offered somewhere else,
then you have every right to go. It's unfortunate for
the kids that followed you there, and yet they have
the opportunity to follow you if you want to transfer
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somewhere else. So very interesting, and yet there is a
ton of openings in the landscape of college coaches. Is
going to train change huge? I mean, you know, to
some degree, Jedfish tried to put those those conversations at Bay,
you know, a couple of weeks ago, with folks just
leaning into the idea of maybe you would be he
would be interested in moving and going somewhere else because
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he has been a bit of a nomad. Soh, Jedfish,
is this a situation you're feeling good about him being here?
Should the should you dubb try to extend him to
keep him here at this point?
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Well, first of all, Jedfish, he said what what is
appropriate to say? And he basically just said I love
it at Washington. He was not asked, nor should have
he been asked, nor would he answer the question, Okay,
you love it Washington, but how many schools would you
would you go to if given a contract that surpasses
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your seven and a half million dollar contract here, So
we just don't know as for whether or not Washington
should engage in extending him. That's everybody's opinion. My opinion
is absolutely, unequivocally no. And for the following reason. There's
evidence that he's a good coach, yes, as a good
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head coach. Is there evidence that he's a great coach.
I don't see it. I think that is yet to
be determined. And let me put a couple of comments
to that point. And there's more. But he's an offensive coach.
He's the offensive playmaker Washington has played. If you take
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all of the power for teams and you say a
top thirty teams ranked in defense points allowed, Ohio State, Michigan,
and Wisconsin are in the top thirty. This is out
of sixty seven teams. These are Power four teams. Ohio State, Michigan,
and Wisconsin are in the top thirty. That's the Washington's losses. Illinois, Maryland, Purdue, UCLA,
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and Rutgers are outside of the top fifty out of
sixty seven. So I'm just gonna summarize these as the
hard teams were the ones I said, the top thirty,
Ohio State, Michigan, Wisconsin. This is the defenses now, and
the easy teams were the other ones that I set.
So the typical let's go, let's go points per game. Now,
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these are all Power four teams playing in conference only,
so sixty seven teams. You would expect that you would
points per game that you would drop against, you know,
from the easy to the hard, and in fact you do.
You go from twenty the rest of the power forward
goes from twenty eight point three to twenty point five,
a drop of seven point eight. Washington goes from forty
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point two, which is seventh to seven point seven. They
instead of a seven point eight, which is the average drop,
they drop thirty two and a half. How about yards
per game? What's what? What is typical is against the
hard teams again, I'll start with the easy teams. You
go your three hundred ninety two yards game. Against the
hard teams, you're three thirty one, so you have a
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drop of six to sixty one. Washington drops two hundred
and twenty six. Good. They go from four to seventy
to two forty four. They go from fourteenth place to
sixty second out of sixty seven the points per game,
they go from seventh to sixty fourth UH yards per
play a similar most teams drop point seven, the Huskies
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drop two point nine. They go from seven point one
to four point two. They go from the seventh best
against easy teams to the sixty second best out of
sixty seven against the hard teams. So I just I
think I'm gonna need to see more as a Husky fan,
as an analyst. Matt Patricia the head the defensive coordinator
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at at Ohio State, Wink Martindale, the defensive coordinator at Michigan.
Those are the guys who were NFL guys that absolutely
put the clamps on Washington's offense. And so so here
we're we here typically a lot of stats. Well, those
stats involved what you did against UC Davis, what you
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did against Washington State, what was their other non Colorado State.
They also are the as I said, the five in
conference where they racked up all these yards and points.
Those were five teams that are in the lower than
fifty out of sixty seven teams. And so to me,
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you don't really define yourself as as where you say,
wait a minute, you got a seven. Your contract. But
I'm dying to up you now. No, that would be
if I if I had seen evidence that he's a
great coach. I haven't seen it yet. All right, get
your two years into a seven year contract. What is
the What is the urgency? I just don't see it.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Yeah, well, I don't know for sure if it would
be worth the paper that it would be signed on right,
because he could still leave if something comes up.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Well, if you could, you could extend him, you know,
give him a lot more money, raise the buyout because
it's going to drop to six million on January tenth.
It's ten million today. It's going to drop so so
some people are talking about that. I don't have that
inclination whatsoever. I gave you some of the reasons. This
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is the shorter segment. I've got more. But you know
that would that would be a place that I would
start where I'd say, hey, let's just see how things go.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I'm with him. There's no urgency.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
I think most Husky fans probably would want to be
in a wait and see, not get him out of here.
That would be I think that would be premature. And
yet at the same time, let's just see how this
whole thing pans out. Well, I mean we got we've
had an hour of our Monday morning quarterback and getting
your insight, Hugh and your knowledge dropped in there. We're
going to uh, we're gonna continue that. We're gonna ad
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a little wisdom in here with coach Holmgren coming up
next for the next hour. Stick around here at ninety
three point three KGRFM.
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Now the Monday Morning Quarterback with Mike hom Grin and
Hugh Millin.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Here's Chuck and Buck.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Welcome back to the chuck'm buck in the Morning Show.
It is the time that everybody has been waiting for.
It is the time when we get to talk to
the one and only Hugh breedlove one. You know that
your middle name is coming up whenever I'm the one
driving the bus, right all good.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
It's all good.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
It's the coolest middle name in the history of middle names.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I'm not kidding. I don't know about that.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
I didn't like it as a kid, but but it's
my uh my grandma on my dad's side, Grandma Grandma
Grandma Jean was a breed Love. So yeah, but pull
family name. It's a great cool It almost sounds like
a native it does you know a Native American?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yes, breed Love sitting Cloud. Yeah, yeah, I could. I
could see that. I could be with you guys.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Good, good to have you, brother. I obviously, uh Seahawks
end up pulling out the w right. Any any win
in the NFL is is something that you just say,
all right, we'll chalk that one up. And yet it
was different than what you don't make predictions and give scores,
and understandably so because it's I don't think anybody really
(02:01):
knows what the heck they're talking about when we do that.
And yet I didn't think it was going to end
up being as close. General thoughts that you got that
you took away from it, considering you went against what
is now one in ten team and you came it
came down to whether or not they're getting an on
side kick and you maybe start sweating it a little
bit overall.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Tops well, I think you touched on it. I think
that you get a win on the road in the NFL,
you stay healthy. You know, think of on a golf
on a score court, there's an index for every hole,
the handicap on the hole, right, and and and so
you look on a seventeen game schedule, this these Titans,
this was.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
The easiest hole.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
This is a short par four with a wide fair
way and a really relatively accessible green. Right, and now
the difference breaks down. You say, well, I would expect,
you know, try and birdy that. But you know, in
football it's you know, it's like par or not par,
win or not win, right, So you get your par.
(03:01):
What if you like to maybe played the whole little better? Fine,
but you know, I think it's real a couple things
for me. That was a really emotional game last week
against the Rams. So now you're you're flying across the country.
The Seahawks have been great, going to three time zones,
playing at ten am.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
There.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Their inability to you know, to step on the throat
of inferior teams has not been a problem. Think of
the nor NaNs games, think of Jacksonville, think of Arizona.
You know they they have been about as good as
anybody in that regard. So if if I told you
before the season, the Seahawks are going to win all
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their games against the poor teams, but one of them,
you know, you're going to get a late touchdown less
than a minute. I don't know, did they backdoor cover?
What was the spread? I sah, yeah, it was like
thirteen and a half, right, okay, so so they backed
or cover under a minute? You know, I I just
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don't think it's a problem. I think that uh what
if it would you you like to be a little better? Yeah,
But I don't think it. I don't think it's one
of those things where you say, this is really a
phenomenal job of keeping your your throttle down, and so
(04:25):
it's they're worthy of praise. I don't think they're worthy
of criticism. I just think it's kind of one of
those It wasn't the best job, but it was, Uh,
it was sufficient. And in the NFL, you just pick
up your ball and you go to the next hole.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yep, No, I'm with you. I'm not one.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I mean, you got to give credit where credit's due.
It still is an NFL team. It's not like they
were playing you know, wasn't u c l A No
exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
The NFL equivalent of the Bruins.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Man that was that was that was ugly. We'll get
into that maybe a little bit later as well, Hugh.
I mean to me, if there was a an amount
of criticism that I would give, it would pretty much
go up to and stop at. There's a recipe that
you try to come up with, right all week you're
thinking about it, what do we need to do to
beat this team? The recipe that they had I don't
(05:16):
feel would probably beat a superior team. Let's just go
back a week against you know, Matthew Stafford. If you
allow an opponent to go six for seventeen and third down,
which isn't horrible, but five for seven or four for seven,
I keep mixing that. I believe it was five for
seven on fourth down. You're probably not going to win
(05:37):
that game. Now, again, you don't get to fourth downs
unless you're They're not going to go for it seven
times unless you're ahead by multiple scores, and so it
kind of plays into that. So just reading the whole thing.
It just felt like, okay, if you get if you
jump out to a lead, then I want you to
put somebody away. And yet that's not it's not necessarily
(05:59):
something that needs to be overly criticized, like you're saying, right.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I know you're yeah, you're up by two touchdowns with
forty seven seconds to go in the game. One of
them was a ninety yard punt return. So the defense
until forty seven seconds to go had yielded ten points.
And you know, look they backed off the gas more
than they had in those other games that I mentioned.
(06:21):
So so yeah, you know, there's also some guys that
were playing that that are not you know, Ernest Jones
wasn't playing that. That's a big factor. So some of
the mistackles we saw. We saw some really good play
by by Patrick O'Connell when he was playing in a
(06:44):
phone booth, but when he had to play out in space,
he showed some of his his limitations. Although I thought
he played a pretty gay game. You know, when when
it was up, when you're up thirty to ten, okay,
they hit you for a post on a post wheel
concept up the right sideline. Well, the flat defender he
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has what's called CFW, a curl flat wheel in that
in that coverage, well, you have him to the flat
and what's the W part of that wheel? You got
to take him up the sideline. Well that was in
a zone blitz with boy Mafey off in the flat.
He's not going to cover a wheel. So you know
that the good on them. They they hit you on
that time. Third and and and then there was a
(07:25):
time where they played Cover two and I mean I
had to watch it like four times. I'm like, wait
a minute, that's a two deep five under the middle
guy that's that's what you call him the Michael linebacker.
That was Josh Joeb Like, what the hell is I
haven't seen Josh Joe play the the hook zone in
cover two the entire season. Uh, you know there's a scramble.
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And by the way, cam Ward, I've studied this guy
a long time. My son started against him twice in college,
so I've seen him live a lot. He played for
the Cougars. I studied a ton of them in Miami.
The thirty third team asked me to present him a
few weeks back. I've watched a ton of cam Ward.
That guy he doesn't have elite athleticism. He has very
(08:09):
good athleticism, but he has I would say borderline elite
feel in the pocket. Now, sometimes he's late and he
doesn't have elite anticipation by quarterback standards, but when he
starts playing that that off script game, you know, I mean,
his his ability to feel open spots in the pocket
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is his next level. And he didn't have a great
team around him, but but he kind of burned the
Seahawks I thought. I thought that was a big factor.
A number of times, his his kind of instincts in
the pocket was tough to defend. I mean, there was
a time where he uh he he scrambles forward on
his own coverage and and and that was the one
(08:55):
with Josh Job over the middle, and and he does
a no look pass on third and five. I'm like, what,
I mean, who's doing no look passes other than Patrick Mahomes.
And and then and then there's an intensity. I mean,
he has a scramble touchdown and you look at guys
were playing so tall and just kind of catching blocks.
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You would almost think the whistle blew and the Seahawks
just stopped playing. There was just a noted lack of intensity.
But the score was thirty to ten, and uh, you
know Patrick O'Connell missed. You know, he's he's not in there.
And then twenty three. I always want to call him,
it's de Anthony Bell. So they had guys in there
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that are hardly ever in there. Those guys were the
ones at the point of attack. So I think I
just think it was a lot of different factors. I
don't expect it to carry over. And I'll tell you
what I bet you Mike McDonald on that plane was
driving back or driving back, flying back and saying that's
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perfect because we won the game. We stayed healthy as
far as I know, we don't have any additional injuries.
And yet we got some lessons. We can talk about focus,
we can talk about breakdowns and in ways that you
couldn't in some of you know, the Commanders, the Jaguars,
the Cardinals, the Saints, all of those total blowouts, it's
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harder to get the team's attention about, hey, this is
a breakdown here. We got to fix this. And so
they'll be able to point to some things and be
able to fix them.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Right, well, what would need to be fixed when it
comes to our quarterback. I mean Sam Darnold good game,
decent game, two touchdowns, no picks. It wasn't There was
a couple balls that probably could have went the other direction.
But coming off of this game that he had last
week and all of the stuff that came down after that,
people were, you know, second guessing this, that and the other.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
How he rebound to you, I thought he looked real good.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I think, you know, they're not to say he didn't
have any minuses on his sheet, but but he cranked
up the big plays. He was productive. He you know,
he navigated the pocket. I mean, I know we're gonna
be talking about those JSN touchdowns here in a minute
and some of his progress. But but his uh, his
his reads were for the most part good. I think
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there was a couple of times, you know, he had
he threw that out route down in the red zone
off to his left. The js N was a little
too high for him. Uh that was a press coverage
what's called oki route. That's that's kind of hard against
press coverage. Had he worked the combination on the front side,
he had Cooper cup wide open. Uh, might have been
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a walk in touchdown on a little choice route where
he broke inside. So I think his recognition on on
that and and a couple other plays where he you know,
I think he predetermined some routes. It looked like he
pre determined to throw to Rashid Chihat on that post
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where he got hit. So I would I would, I
would dig him for his pocket awareness in the pre
UH determination. But I think they're still working on Resid
Shaheed and trying to get him because when when they
were acquired Rashid Shaheed, it felt to me like, Okay,
that's just kind of a luxury acquisition. I don't quite
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feel that way now. I feel like it's a little
bit more of a necessity with UH, with Tory Horton's injury,
and and while Cooper Cup has been a great addition
in terms of in the building and how he's impacted others,
notably JSN and and everybody, so I think it's almost
like you acquired a coach, but it has not been
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productive on the field.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
So I think that.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Rashid Shaheed was more of a necessity. That's my opinion today,
more so than it was on November fourth when he
was acquired. And and and so they're still trying to
work like they had a wrap route where they had
a j barner kind of sit and try and hold
the cheese for the linebacker and then you're gonna he's
at the short level barner, and then you're gonna get
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an inbreaking route with Shaheed coming in behind it. Well,
Sam Donald reads there's a Initially at the snap of
the ball, he sees a safety to his left. Okay,
this'll be Sam Donald. We're in shotgun. We see the say, okay,
safety's over the apparently over the top of of Jackson
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Smith and Jigba to double him over the top. But
we have to confirm that on post snap and then
and then now post snap, the safety comes down to
play in what's called the hook zone. So think of
in this defense it was' I've referenced it to now baseball,
infeld and outfield. So imagine the guy, the guy who's
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ultimately going to be in the shortstop position that's the
hook zone defense on the left, but he starts kind
of left center. Got me sore. Pre snap, he's in
left center. Now he drops down and he's he's your shortstop.
Well Donald sees that and he wants to hold him
up because the uh to carry out the analogy, Rashi
chi hed Is is going over the top of this
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end behind the second baseman, going right over the middle
of the field, right over the top of second base.
But you gotta worry about the shortstop coming over who
came down from left center. So Donald sees the coverage,
he's trying to hold him up, but Rashid chih he doesn't.
He's flying like a bat out of hell into the
next window and and in zone. That's Those are the
type of things where where you see JSN just intuitively,
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he just knows. He's just like I know exactly how
to be quarterback friendly. I'm gonna turn my full numbers.
My quarterback wants to see my front number, my front
jersey number, as opposed to my side jersey number, which
he would see if I was screaming through. And so
I'm gonna show him my front numbers that I'm idling
down in boom and then you get an easy completion.
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But for them to have missed on that play, Eliza
Royo man, I had done my homework last week about
all the second round tight ends, where the hell is
the list? But you're getting nothing out of Eliza Royo
so you know, there's some things I would have liked
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to have worked on for Sam Darnold, But so I
think those are still a work in progress, and hopefully
before you tee up the RAMS on December eighteenth, you
can still develop these things.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Right, and there is time for that. I mean, we're
getting close to it. But I do want to ask
one thing. When you're talking about being familiar, right, you
were talking about Rashid Jaheed and they're trying to figure
that out.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I think Arroyo might fall into that same category. Right.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
He was just drafted and he had training camp versus
you see the picture before training camp where Jackson Smith
and Jigbu and Cooper Cup and aj Barner and it
wasn't I ain't know Barnell was there too, where they're
all getting balls thrown to them by Sam. So how
I mean, we don't have much time, but how how
easy is it to acquire that familiarity?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Uh? It takes a while, the precisions in the details.
Some guys are easier to read. There's more of a
cohesion early on with guys, there's a mesh. Obviously, Sam
Darlng came in and he could just read JSN like
like Braille right, others guys, it takes longer Rashichi, he
doesn't is not as instinctive. But uh, and here's my
(16:27):
list of my kind of my beef. Now, Uh, the
way I works sometimes, you know, I have I have
kind of a theme. Maybe I'm gonna take the kg
A radio oka I'm gonna get I'm gonna give you
Bucky a window into my thoughts. And I say, wait
a minute, I've watched some tape I've got. I got
a little hunch, I got a little feeling in my gut.
Let me see if I can find some facts to
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kind of support my my hypothesis. And and then I
come and usually if I can find those facts, I
come in you know, blazon on that take right candidly,
my my, the facts didn't support my hypothesis as much
as I had thought it does to some degree. And
here's what I thought. I looked at Eliza Royo coming
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into He's on the pace for twenty coming into this week.
Now it's uh, it's a slip because he didn't have
anything yesterday, but he was on the pace for twenty
four catches two hundred and ninety six yards. I said,
I'm gonna look at Trey McBride second round. They're both
second round pick. Trey McBride was the fifty fifth pick.
Arroyo was the fiftieth man. I bet, I bet Trey
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McBride and his rookie year just smoked it. Well, not really.
He only had twenty nine catches for two sixty five
almost so. But and then Pat Fryarmouth for the Steelers, Ah,
he had sixty catches for four ninety seven. Cole Comet
twenty eight catches. The big guy, the big guy, if
I wanted to really bring it, is Sam Laporta. You know,
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he had eighty six catches for eight hundred and eighty
nine yards. So I think that's a little bit of
a mixed bag. But for the most part, I'll hold
to my my take, which is that you're not getting
enough out of Elijah Royal to as of today to
have justified using the fiftieth pick on him. There's a
(18:15):
lot of time to advance. As we said, Trey McBride
certainly vaulted from year two and beyond, so so we'll see.
But I'm just looking and saying, how the hell are
we gonna beat the Rams? That's not necessarily what Mike
McDonald's thinking. He probably has it in the back of
his mind, like we got to keep getting better. That's
one thing I learned on Don. You'd learned a lot
from your high school or college baseball coach. I learned
(18:38):
a lot from Don James's you have to keep getting
better during the season. He would repeat that over and over.
We have to improve, we got to be better, keep going,
keep and so I think as we sit there and say, Okay,
what can what can how can Sam Donald be better
against the Rams? It's some of those things. A better
feel was shed say maybe Eliza Royo poppin h but uh,
(19:00):
you know, right, but let's not do anything to detract
from what's going on with JSM Right.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Well, we're going to dive into that. I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
That was one of the things last night that I
was I can't wait to hear what you think about this.
How you can give us some insight of the tricks
of the trade that this guy obviously has.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
We'll dive into Jackson.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Smith and Jigba in the record breaking game that he
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Speaker 4 (19:46):
But really a great asset that they brought in Starnold
with time going up top for Jackson Smith and Jack drops.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
It at the bucket. How he woke backpedal for a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
So that is Jackson Smith and Jigba. I am Bucky Jacobson.
That's Ashley Ryan and we are joined for another better
part of two hours. Here another five segments with the
one and only Hugh Millan. Hugh that catch yesterday. I
want to dive into that a little bit because I
think you can give some insight. I'm watching it and
(20:20):
there's something about the recognizing the ball and I know
I've heard you talked about this before.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
You can dive into it further, like.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
How quickly Jackson Smith and Jigba seems to recognize where
the ball is actually going to come in relation to
how fast he's running whereas defender is because to me
it looked like he almost slows up, shields him off
with his body, then accelerates a tiny bit, puts his
hand out just not a push off, but just a yeah,
that's as close as you get, and then it drops
(20:48):
it in the bucket. I mean, is there are you
seeing the same things that I'm seeing? Or am I
imagining something when it comes to this dude's ball skills?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Yeah, well you know this from outfielders. You know how
they have to you know, track the ball right off
the crack of the bat. You know that's that's a
key component. I mean, if it takes you a split
second longer and you take a bad first step on
an angle, then you can make a play in the
gap look really difficult or not make the play. Whereas
(21:16):
if you know somebody who just has that in eight sense,
they just kind of glide over and they make it
look routine.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Right.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Well, on that play third and six at the minus
thirty seven, here's a a couple of key points. It's
the Seahawks are on a trip right, trip's right, and
the defense would call that the JSN was like he
motioned over. He lines up as number three counting outside in,
so he's the inside guy out of three, he's going.
They were able with the motion and everything in the coverage,
(21:43):
they were able to match up against a safety number
thirty seven, a Moni Hooker. So hooker is in outside leverage.
He has the coverages man and man. There's a post
safety deep, but because they're only rushing four instead of five,
there's also a shallow hole player. So think of it
like a deep free safety in center field and then
(22:03):
a shallow free safety in the in the UH in
the low middle. So he's he's trying to funnel any
in breaking route and he has outside leverage on an
outbreaking route. So as as Jaysn goes up the field
based on that, Now I just described the outside leverage.
That's a horizontal UH relationship I'm describing. And there's also
(22:24):
what's called the high shoulder or the low shoulder. If
he were to get excessively the defender excessively on the
high shoulder, meaning way down the field, you could JSN
could cross his face and and flatten it. But because
he was more or less even, Jasn says, okay, we're
even I'm leaving. I'm going over the top. I'm taking
(22:44):
a high angle. But from a quarterback perspective. You say,
wait a minute, that I got. I'm trying to throw
an outbreaking route and the defenders on the outside leverage
and JSN does not have elite long speed against a corner,
but it's against the safety, so he has a step.
And then now it's what you're talking about. Donald throws
(23:05):
the ball high. It was the NFL measured it at
forty three air yards. That's from the line of scrimmage.
I calculated because I'm a nerd, and a a square
plus B squared is C squared if you calculate the
uh the hypot news, that's a fifty three yards in
the air Okay, from the hand of of of Donald
(23:26):
until it arrives at JSN. Now, as you said, here's
the part about JSN that has flat out elite as
good as as as any of the receivers who's ever
played this game. When he turns and and he's locating
that ball, as you said, he'll slow down, he'll he
(23:46):
use his body and and and he also it also
did it in the red zone. And maybe we'll have
time to describe that. But that hand fighting, he's just
totally immune to the distraction. And then the hand push
the Utah talked about. This is just the high IQ
Michael Irvin had it. I played with him where where
there's a subtlety to to It's like goldilocks in the porch.
(24:10):
Not too hot, not too cold. How much am I
going to push off on the defender? Not too little
because I won't get the separation to make the play.
Not too much, I'll get an OPI it's just right.
And it's always just right with this guy. And then
and then and then just the ability, the late hands ability,
(24:30):
it's like if it touches his hands, it's it's like
it's like he's got I don't know, flypaper. That sounds
like a week old analogy. But but he just refuses
to drop a ball that is remotely catch a ball,
particularly those deep ones. Tyler Lockett had a little bit
of that skill, but this guy, uh, just the but
(24:52):
he would.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Use his body.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
This guy can and just got with guys, you know,
grabbing in his arms and knelbles and pushing and running
full speed and slowing down as you said, I mean,
it's just incredible. It's also worth noting, uh that ball
was it was held three three point zero seconds. Is
what the NFL had that the the offensive line because
it's third down. There was a to the outside of
(25:18):
of Abe Lucas was a what a five technique which
is outside the tackle, and then there's a nine technique
way out there. So the the Titans had widened their
defensive line what uh, in ways that you would never
do on first and second down. And so at the
snap of the ball, Gray's Abel he's blocking the three
(25:39):
technique outside the the right side of the line, Bradford
and Lucas are are blocking those guys, and the the
vision that opened up, you could see a thousand pass
plays you're never gonna see better, a better protection better.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
It was like it was like seven on seven for
Sam Darnold. There was no around him, nobody in his
vision and he was able to.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
You watch his steps and he takes three hitches on
the play because he thought he was going to a
shorter route. But he he's able to take three steps
and hold the ball and wait for all this to
develop because of how Tennessee played it in the pass blocking,
so a lot going into that. But JSN is just
(26:28):
next level at finishing. That's what I put on my notes.
How he can finish because you know, because one thing
to go, you know, unless you have a guy that
that can actually close the sale when the ball is
is right there to be caught, the rest of it
doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Right.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Yeah, Well, I mean that's an awesome breakdown to the
We're gonna get a little bit more into that when
we have Homegun next hour, just because there's a part
of Greg Bell said, I'd felt like I saw like
glimpses of a Jerry Rice, and I just thought, oh
my gosh, that's a name to come up. But you
just said that his ball skills or that maybe it's
(27:07):
the finishing way in which he can finish is as
good as anybody.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
That you've seen. So I would not go ahead. I'm sorry. Well,
I'm just saying we're going to get into that some more.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I'm gonna be able to have you and Coach kind
of go back and forth a little bit about JSN
when we get him on the air.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
But Ice would not be my comp I'll just say
that I got a couple other ideas, but Rice would
not be my comp would be interesting to see what
Coach Holmgren says.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
I would have a hard time thinking he's going to
say he's his comp either, even while he's given him
as many accolades as he deserves at this point, being
the all time leading Seahawks receiver for a single season
is pretty impressive when you have six games to go.
So on the other side of this, though, Hugh, I
want to get into a little bit about the college
coaching situation at this point in time. I get some
(27:53):
vacancies and whatnot. So listeners stick around and we'll be
back here at Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Placement down.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
They're gonna fake it, throw it over the shoulder, and
the ball's gonna get picked up. Smclough Lee's off and
running hit the fifteenth. There he goes anually right side.
Oh it's mclough little go all the way his second
touchdown of the year, and the Washington Husky's taken intended
trick playing by u CLA and turn it into a
brewing disaster.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
A bruin disaster hurts your heart, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Oh that's I don't think there's anything makes you happier
other than maybe a duck disaster.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
You might like that more would make me really happy.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Oh boy, o boy, that was quite the butt whooping.
Welcome back to Sports Radio ninety three point three. KJRFM
is Chuck and Buck Show minus Chuck, but we still
got Ashley and we got the normal Monday morning quarterback
dose of Hugh Milling. Hugh, I wanted to ask just
the idea of college football, the college coaching, you know,
(28:57):
all these openings that are out there right now, general
thought on what's going on in that situation.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Well, I think it's unprecedented. All the movement we're going
to see. It's going to be a gigantic game of
musical chairs. And if you were to take out a
piece of paper and put on the top November twenty fourth,
and then proceed to say, okay, fill in all the
predictions for what coaches are going to go to what spots,
and then have a wildcard section for other jobs are
(29:26):
going to come open, because as guys fill these jobs,
other jobs are going to come open. I think that
if you were to read that in two months, me included,
we'd all be just like, oh my god, goodness, we
could have never foreseen this. Back on November twenty fourth,
I think Lane Kiffin is the He's the first domino,
(29:46):
and I was shocked by the release that Ole Miss
had look it up online. But essentially, it sure looks
to me like they are anticipating that Lane Kiffin's gone.
There's you know, let's talk about LSU possibly Florida, but
everything's gonna start shifting from there. And I did I
(30:09):
did note that that Dan Lanning. Uh, he was on
game day and he said, and I quote, he goes,
this is my spot. I'm gonna be here forever. Now
he's not bound to that. He could take the LSU
LSU job, and then he could turn around and say, well,
that's what I thought when I said it last week.
(30:31):
But then you know that was based on a set
of assumptions and and I got more money or or
you know whatever. And so, uh, these coaches are in
a tough position when asked by the media, and uh,
and they take different tacks. But you know, I'm gonna
be surprised if Lank Giffen is the coach at ole
Miss next year. And I think there's gonna be a
(30:52):
lot of surprises in behind it.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah, it is nuts the way, And I don't, like
you said, I don't really fault the coaches. I well,
I felt ill the system, right, It's just and you
play the game that you play, and so if it's
one of those where you can get offered somewhere else,
then you have every right to go. It's unfortunate for
the kids that followed you there, and yet they have
the opportunity to follow you if you want to transfer
(31:15):
somewhere else. So very interesting, and yet there is a
ton of openings in the landscape of college coaches. Is
going to train change huge? I mean, you know, to
some degree, Jedfish tried to put those those conversations at Bay,
you know, a couple of weeks ago, with folks just
leaning into the idea of maybe you would be he
would be interested in moving and going somewhere else because
(31:38):
he has been a bit of a nomad. Soh, Jedfish,
is this a situation you're feeling good about him being here?
Should the should you dubb try to extend him to
keep him here at this point?
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Well, first of all, Jedfish, he said what what is
appropriate to say? And he basically just said I love
it at Washington. He was not asked, nor should have
he been asked, nor would he answer the question, Okay,
you love it Washington, but how many schools would you
would you go to if given a contract that surpasses
(32:13):
your seven and a half million dollar contract here, So
we just don't know as for whether or not Washington
should engage in extending him. That's everybody's opinion. My opinion
is absolutely, unequivocally no. And for the following reason. There's
evidence that he's a good coach, yes, as a good
(32:35):
head coach. Is there evidence that he's a great coach.
I don't see it. I think that is yet to
be determined. And let me put a couple of comments
to that point. And there's more. But he's an offensive coach.
He's the offensive playmaker Washington has played. If you take
(32:57):
all of the power for teams and you say a
top thirty teams ranked in defense points allowed, Ohio State, Michigan,
and Wisconsin are in the top thirty. This is out
of sixty seven teams. These are Power four teams. Ohio State, Michigan,
and Wisconsin are in the top thirty. That's the Washington's losses. Illinois, Maryland, Purdue, UCLA,
(33:22):
and Rutgers are outside of the top fifty out of
sixty seven. So I'm just gonna summarize these as the
hard teams were the ones I said, the top thirty,
Ohio State, Michigan, Wisconsin. This is the defenses now, and
the easy teams were the other ones that I set.
So the typical let's go, let's go points per game. Now,
(33:45):
these are all Power four teams playing in conference only,
so sixty seven teams. You would expect that you would
points per game that you would drop against, you know,
from the easy to the hard, and in fact you do.
You go from twenty the rest of the power forward
goes from twenty eight point three to twenty point five,
a drop of seven point eight. Washington goes from forty
(34:09):
point two, which is seventh to seven point seven. They
instead of a seven point eight, which is the average drop,
they drop thirty two and a half. How about yards
per game? What's what? What is typical is against the
hard teams again, I'll start with the easy teams. You
go your three hundred ninety two yards game. Against the
hard teams, you're three thirty one, so you have a
(34:30):
drop of six to sixty one. Washington drops two hundred
and twenty six. Good. They go from four to seventy
to two forty four. They go from fourteenth place to
sixty second out of sixty seven the points per game,
they go from seventh to sixty fourth UH yards per
play a similar most teams drop point seven, the Huskies
(34:51):
drop two point nine. They go from seven point one
to four point two. They go from the seventh best
against easy teams to the sixty second best out of
sixty seven against the hard teams. So I just I
think I'm gonna need to see more as a Husky fan,
as an analyst. Matt Patricia the head the defensive coordinator
(35:13):
at at Ohio State, Wink Martindale, the defensive coordinator at Michigan.
Those are the guys who were NFL guys that absolutely
put the clamps on Washington's offense. And so so here
we're we here typically a lot of stats. Well, those
stats involved what you did against UC Davis, what you
(35:33):
did against Washington State, what was their other non Colorado State.
They also are the as I said, the five in
conference where they racked up all these yards and points.
Those were five teams that are in the lower than
fifty out of sixty seven teams. And so to me,
(35:55):
you don't really define yourself as as where you say,
wait a minute, you got a seven. Your contract. But
I'm dying to up you now. No, that would be
if I if I had seen evidence that he's a
great coach. I haven't seen it yet. All right, get
your two years into a seven year contract. What is
the What is the urgency? I just don't see it.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Yeah, well, I don't know for sure if it would
be worth the paper that it would be signed on right,
because he could still leave if something comes up.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Well, if you could, you could extend him, you know,
give him a lot more money, raise the buyout because
it's going to drop to six million on January tenth.
It's ten million today. It's going to drop so so
some people are talking about that. I don't have that
inclination whatsoever. I gave you some of the reasons. This
(36:43):
is the shorter segment. I've got more. But you know
that would that would be a place that I would
start where I'd say, hey, let's just see how things go.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I'm with him. There's no urgency.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
I think most Husky fans probably would want to be
in a wait and see, not get him out of here.
That would be I think that would be premature. And
yet at the same time, let's just see how this
whole thing pans out. Well, I mean we got we've
had an hour of our Monday morning quarterback and getting
your insight, Hugh and your knowledge dropped in there. We're
going to uh, we're gonna continue that. We're gonna ad
(37:13):
a little wisdom in here with coach Holmgren coming up
next for the next hour. Stick around here at ninety
three point three KGRFM.
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