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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:38):
Hey, good morning, welcome in. It is a football Friday.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Chuck Powell, former Mariner, Bucky Jacobson, and Ashley Ryan with
you until ten o'clock this morning.
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Football Friday sponsored by Tito's Handmade Vodka. We welcome you
into this Friday show. Ashley Ryan Bucky Jacobson, Chuck Powell
with you, and all sorts of things to discuss here
on a Friday, A lot of football things to discuss
here on a friday. But we got to start with
this golden ticket that Bucky Jacobson has gotten for the weekend.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Oh yeah, you just casually said it too.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, he just kind of threw it out there, like.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Yeah, yeah, family is flying off to Hawaii, so Bucky
has the place to himself. And I don't know, I
mean this is like, uh, there's there are layers to
this you have here is I mean, number one, you
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don't get to go to Hawaii all right with your family,
which would be fun.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, why is amazing and families are cool too.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
But on the flip side, you are left home as
a father of two and a husband that doesn't get
a lot of alone time.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I'm guessing no, you are left home at your homestead
to your own devices to do whatever you want. Plus,
because there's a plus here, because that's not like, you know,
wife and kids are gonna go visit family, which is
a little bit of one of those like yes, I
want to do it, but I also feel like I
have to do it. This is they're going.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
To paradise, so that gives you the free ticket to
really do whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
And I'm not like, don't go, don't go.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Take your minds there. I'm not talking about like things
that right, compromise your marriage or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I was just thinking, you'd play with a chainsaw, whatever.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
You want to do, whatever you would get in trouble for,
Like should you be drinking that much? Right? Oh?
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Yeah, at some point, should.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
You be eating all of those ribs? You know you're
not gonna have to hear that one time.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
And because she and the kids are off having paradise
level fun, Yeah, you get to do whatever that if
you want.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
This is true.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
Well, when you paint it like that, it makes me
feel a little bit better about the fact that I
am going to be missing my kids, you know, swimming
frolicking in the ocean.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah, that's real, that's true.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
There's like, oh man, like seeing my kids snorble for
the first time that I am going to miss, right,
and and just the fact that they're going to to Hawaii.
How excited my kids were this morning. Woke them up
at four o'clock this morning and bears.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Like this is great. Ye crazy.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
What are we more excited about the long plane ride
or the short bus ride. When we get there, he's
all excited about the trip. So like, I'm there's a
part of me that is really genuinely like oh man
and yeah, and then there's a part of it it's like, oh,
I'm gonna stay up really late one night with music
plane in my house.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
But I think that's the point, like, because there is
a part of you that it's you're bummed. Yeah, it
is also the license to like, Okay, yeah, you know,
I have to make up for this sadness. I have
to fill this hole, and the only way that I
can clearly fill it is by doing things Bucky loves
to do, Bucky alone loves to do, and to do
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them at a level that.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Wouldn't make my wife comfortable.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
Yeah, yeah, things that I mean, because there's not a lot.
I mean to do what I want for the most part,
but there's like, for example, one thing that is for
certain I have.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
You know, I've dropped like.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Thirty pounds in the last few months and been working out,
and I'm gonna keep doing that. That's actually something that
I've actually kind of got into and started to enjoy now.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
One of the.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
Things that has changed is my diet, right I've been
I've been eating better and not having as much bad stuff.
I'll still from time to time have something here and there,
and you know, Halloween candy for has been kind of
a bit of a bugaboo as of late, but I
have already decided that today for on my way home,
I will be ordering too family size Frankie's pizzas.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
And I will be eating them. I'm talking. I will
be eating them for lunch today.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
Then I'm going to the uh Nate Bargatzi comedy show tonight, Yes, yeah,
oh sweet, I guess and Duster Nikos and will be
there as well, so that'll be fun now. And then
uh for breakfast tomorrow, I'll be having more of that pizza,
and then when I'm just a little tiny bit hungry,
I'll have another piece of that pizza.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
So it's one of those you don't have to heat
it up.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
I didn't have to give you a guy, I didn't
have to tip you off to what you got last night.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
I did the dishes right because my wife was I
don't have to do those all weekend till Sunday night.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Well, not even then, I guarantee it won't be a
dish used. There'll be a paper plate used. Come home
like Wednesday, I think Tuesday night.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
So not till Tuesday night, I won't do anything. I
won't know.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
I So last night, my wife's finishing packing up, you know,
and it's difficult for a mom packing for herself and
then two kids and trying to figure out everything, even
though they whatever, you forget they have it Hawaii probably so,
but she's doing that. So I cooked dinner and then afterwards,
I'm like, you know what, I'm just gonna get the
dishes done because they're not going.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
To be used again.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
They're just not gonna I'm full blown like and I
to some of you, it's like I've been doing this
for the change in my diet was for my own good,
not for the.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Next four days five days. It isn't.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Doctor will tell you it's not for your own good
to keep eating healthy while your family's right right.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
You got to break out of that.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
I have a very specific picture for how I feel
like your day is gonna go now that I know
you've got two pizzas coming, It's gonna be get home,
eat your pizza.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Take a nap because you can.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Because there's no one keeping you wake up.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Poor a drink.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
All of this, by the way, the second you get home,
it's like you're gonna have sweat shorts on or sweatpants
and that's it and no shir no shirt.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
And then it's gonna be poor drink.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
You're gonna be out by the bonfire, TV on music
blasting more drinks. Sometimes cans will get crushed. Cans will
get crushed, ah, thrown on the ground. There's gonna be
some arm raising in front of the bonfire.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah, pretty much nailed it. That's just this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah, that's that was only today. Yeah, that was only
today before I.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Go to Barkata. Yeah. Yeah, that's just the tip of
the iceberg.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, uh huh.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
Pretty much nailed it. There would be some chainsaw running
some track or driving.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
And I was picturing with the chainsaw that you might
even try to be like, oh, I'm going to carve
something out of this, and then you give that you have.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
A piece of wood that I was thinking about carving.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Yeah, that sounds like work. Yeah, just really have been
longing to do.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
It, do it.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
I didn't longing to do it and if I have
a glass of penalty, anything we get with a glass
of penalty next year, it becomes no longer work.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
That's enjoyable and creative.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Liquid courage, liquid encouragement.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
All right, Well, I don't know, Yes, without it hurting
a little bit, it isn't doesn't give you the.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
License to have as much fun as it could potentially have.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
But also think about it, you don't have to deal
with kids in an airport or.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
On an airplane. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
I don't like that whole like whole pass argument. I
think that's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
But this, this is what a guy really likes. Yeah,
just the place to himself.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
That we've got a lot better relationship advice than Paul
Pierce does.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Look at us.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
All right, Well, the Seahawks are going to take on
the Cardinals this Sunday. The week in the National Football
they got started last night with the Denver Broncos winning
over the Raiders by a final score of ten to seven.
For the Broncos, they just kind of figure out ways
to win this year. They've won seven straight games they
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have they're the only team in the National Football League
with eight wins. But I think for our purposes this morning,
it's a little bit more about the Raiders, who once
again could not perform two wins on the season. For
Pete Carroll, Gino Smith and the new look Raiders, they
were I mean, they brought Pete Carroll in to compete, right,
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They brought Pete Carroll in to take the next step.
They brought Geno Smith in and sign him to a
big deal to actually be a playoff competitor, and they
have instead taken a step back. I used this topic
at the close of yesterday's show, and so we didn't
really get to sink our teeth into it. And I'm
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not sitting here like, you know, nanny Nanny booboos. That's
not the approach I take to this topic. But I
do believe it is worth noting that whatever happened between
Pete and John, when John won the power struggle within
the organization, I think we should all be really happy
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about that here in Seattle, because I don't know it
feels to me, and I don't root against Pete Carroll whatsoever,
but it does feel to me that maybe Pete was
standing in the way, not just maybe it feels to
me Pete was standing in the way of John. Really
wanting to do what he wanted to do with this organization,
and maybe Pete was making more of the personnel decisions
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than John was comfortable with. In the last past few years,
I said it repeatedly, this Jamal Adams trade does not
feel like something John Schneider would do. And even though
we don't have any evidence to support that, or at
least any guarantee to support that, I think it feels
more evident than ever that that was a peate thing.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
The Jamal Adams love affair.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
I think the Geno Smith marrying yourself to Geno Smith
felt like a Pete thing. Otherwise he doesn't his first
item of business isn't to go trade for Geno Smith.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
The moment he's got a brand new job, he.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Had an opportunity to be out from underneath a decent
but not very good quarterback, and instead he went and
got He went and convinced Tom Brady and others to
go grab him, a brand new general manager there in Vegas,
to go grab him.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
So, you know, it kind of feels like, now we know.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
John Schneider needed to get Pete Carroll out of the
way so that John Schneider could do John Schneider things.
And since Pete left, really the Seahawks have kind of
taken off again. And so I'm glad John Schneider won
the power struggle, and I hold no ill will against
Pete Carroll, but it's becoming more evident with every day
that he was a problem.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
Yeah, well the more. I mean, I've never had a
big love affair for Pete Carroll. I'm not a giant
fan of the raw raw coach. I do think that
he's great. Obviously, he was great here. I think he
there's a place for those types of coaches and it
works for a while, and it worked for a long
time here, but he most certainly was stuck. I mean,
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the team was not getting better, right. It kind of
it took him to greatness, I mean, honestly, really close
a yard away from being dynastic, quite possibly, and yet
after that it fell off, and then it kind of
just stayed there, and then it seemed like it was
even trickling even further.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
So I think that it was the right time.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
I think that that type of coaching, while there's definitely
some upside to it, I think Gino Smith is a
prime example of hey, come here, be the backup when
the time comes. If the time comes, we will give
you your opportunity. And when you do, all of a
sudden it changed his world. It changed Geno Smith's world.
So Gino Smith, I think is way more, you know,
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like closely, you know, tied to Pete Carroll and the
opportunity that he gave him. On the flip side of it,
it isn't usual that you notice the coach actually falling
in love with someone's story.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
The way that I think Pete Carroll does.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
I think Pete Carroll, he'll he loved the.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Idea of Jamal Adams. Well, is X factor? Boy? This
guy plays a game different. Yep.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
We'll give up the farm basically to bring this guy
in and then I'll use him in a way that
will break records for DB's and sacks and whatnot. Well, yeah,
but is he good at the whole position? I mean,
does he really make your defense better? Well, it's one
of those That's where I think Pete Carroll's kind of
stuck to some degree, Like, no, I firmly believe in
my thing. Well, your thing worked when you when you
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you and John together, you know, found Sherman in the
fifth or whatever around it was, and it cam in
the third and all of the things Earl Thomas, all
of the way in which they built that team, and
then his philosophy poured into it.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
It worked.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
And then when you had to somehow maneuver your way
around less than stellar drafts and some injuries and some
declining quarterback play, all of a sudden it just kind
of fizzled out to some extent. And now he goes
to the Raiders, and I'm obviously not going to cheer
for him when he's coaching the Raiders. And yet there's
a lot of the retreads, not just Gino but or Jamal.
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I mean, I saw yesterday Tyler Lockett, now John Radigan,
a great story army guy, he's on special teams. I mean,
there's a lot of guys that he's like, no, I
still want them, and you're like, MS weren't very good.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
I think the three like red flags now that seems
so obvious. And they were talking points at the time.
They were debatable at the time, but they seem very
obvious now. Number One, when you are a player's coach,
and he always walked a really fine line, and I
think he did a tremendous job of it. He should
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write a book on how to manage players, because he
had a really interesting locker room and for a short period,
actually a long period of time by NFL standards, he
was getting the most out of that group. They were
practically a dynasty. He had a record setting defense, and
there it was a great era of football here in Seattle, Washington.
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But in doing that, he broke the locker room because
he had to give his quarterback preferential treatment, and it
pissed off everybody else who couldn't see why Russell wasn't
really part of the team. And then the first warning
sign was then when Russell sort of turned on Pete,
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like was blaming Pete. So here you've broken the locker
room of a team that might have launched a dynasty
for one guy, the quarterback, and then the quarterback the
moment he started being told that he needs to cook
kind of turned on Pete Carroll.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
That was warning sign number one.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Warning sign number two was and this goes were any
level of football. When you're a defensive coordinator, a defensive specialist,
and you're the head coach and the problem with your
team year after year is defense, that's warning sign number two.
And then number three the red flag that was debatable
at the time, and I feel as obvious now he
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obviously was way too involved with personnel decisions. He was
getting way too involved with John's job, maybe enacting his
power over John in certain decisions. And I think that's
ultimately what led John Schneider in a closed door meeting
to tell the owners tim of like a him or
me kind of deal, like I can't do my job
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if he's going to continue to interfere with it, so
I can go get another general manager job.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Like that.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
I'll go if you want me to go, but I'm
not doing this anymore. And since that time, John Schneider's
probably been on as big a heater as he's been
on as a general manager since he put together the
last championship team.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, I mean, I love Pete Carroll. You guys know
that I call him Uncle Pete.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
But I do think that Pete's strength is also his weakness,
because I don't think he has the ability to move
on from these players that he, you know, grows an
affinity for, and he just keeps thinking I'm the one
that can make the difference. And I think that's why
he held on to Russell too long. I think that's
why he's got half the Seahawks on the Raiders, and
that's why he interfered with John. He was determined that
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he had all these you know these he because of
his connection with his players.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
He's the one that could get more out of him.
He can do it. He can do it, he can
do it well.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
At some point that relationship has grown old and a
lot of different with a lot of different people, but
he has still wanted to cling to it, and so
I do think, yeah, that was the right time for
them to move on.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Obviously, it's worked out very well for the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
And if anything, it was a little late.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah, I would agree with that actually, And I mean
at the.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Time it's felt kind of shocking, but if anything, if anything,
it was a little late.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, I would say that.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
And it's but I just also been watching last night
and seeing Pete on TV and seeing how terrible the
Raiders are.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I just kind of almost felt bad for him.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Too, though, And Gina looks horrible, horrible, And it wasn't
just last night now, it has been all season long.
So uh yeah, if there was a power struggle and
it kind of feels like that there was. Yeah, I
think we are all we should all feel very fortunate
here in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
That the right guy won the power struggle.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
All right, let's find out what's on tap for the
rest of the show.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
What's on what's on tep.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Hright, Broncos over the Raiders to start the new week
of the National Football League ten to seven will play
some Factor fiction at seven thirty five. That's a win
for US Seahawks Cardinals Sunday at one o'clock. Reg Bell
will join us at seven oh five, Hugh Millen for
x'es and o's at nine, and coach Holmgren will be
with us at nine thirty. This Sunday will mark the
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debut of Rashid Shaheed in a Sea Hawk uniform. It
will also mark maybe the first game of the Jacoby
Brissette era for the Arizona Cardinals, depending on what rumor
you want to believe, either Kyler Murray really has a
bad foot injury and is out for a month more
or Jacoby Brissett has taken the job for him there
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as the starting quarterback for the Cardinals at least for
the rest of the season. NFL Week number ten Man
it is bevy of really good matchups this weekend. He
got Atlanta, Indiana will be a six to thirty start
from Germany. You got Baltimore and Minnesota, which suddenly looks
very interesting. Cleveland at the Jets is even interesting because
the losers probably going to get the number one pick
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in the draft. New England and Tampa Bay's a fantastic matchup.
You got the Rams and the forty nine Ers playing
this Sunday, and then the Sunday night game will be
Pittsburgh and the Chargers. College Football Week number eleven fascinating
as well. The game of the week. I don't know
if you would have had this on your BINGO card
at the beginning of the year, but BYU at Texas
Tech seven versus eight in the country is your game
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of the week in college football. Will talk more about
that in the OCHO at eight o'clock. Huskies will be
in Madison, Wisconsin to take on the Badgers. We'll do
our Big Den preview at eight forty five and more
on that matchup coming up with Rick new eisl here
in a bit sounders, excuse me. College basketball Huskies moved
to two to zero on the young season I'm surprised
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that there were so many eyeballs on the Broncos last night.
Most Denver fans, of course, locked into Dent University of
Denver basketball, their favorite thing there.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
I wouldn't be supposed to people change the channel that
way through that game.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Eighty four to seventy the final score of the Huskies Denver.
And now they get ready for Baylor on Sunday, So
the child's plays over.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Now you're gonna face a real team coming up on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Sounders Minnesota will play Saturday at one o'clock.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
If I said Sunday yesterday, I'm stupid. Okay, Oh you
just to no soccer.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Sounders at Minnesota tomorrow at one o'clock to decide that series.
Cracking at Saint Louis tomorrow at four point thirty. And
there's some news from the stove that we will have
to discuss before the show comes to a close. But
coming up next here on the program, Rick new Isil
was with us on Tuesday, in case you missed it.
He had some interesting things to say about Wisconsin Badgers
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football and Washington Huskies football. So we'll replay some of
that for you and react next on Sports Radio ninety
three point three KJRFM.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Hey, good Friday to you. Welcome into the radio program.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
It is Chucking Buck in the Morning Sports Radio ninety
three point three kJ r FM. By the way, Dustin
Nickerson's going to join us today, comedian Dustin Nickerson eight
thirty today. And I know he's going to share where
he's going to be tonight, which is the same place
that apparently Bucky and Ashley are going to be and
another comedian that we all love very much. But I
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think he's also going to take me to task, So
I'm prepared for that.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Oh is that right?
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Yeah, it might have to rough up a comedian. Oh
really Yeah, Well I don't know, only if he starts it.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Okay, he probably will.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Yeah, what do you think he's going to take you
to task on?
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Well, he invited us all to his comedy show was
out here, and you went, and Ashley couldn't go, but
she responded and I completely forgot to even respond.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
So I really did screw up.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I did, especially because you want to be his friend.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Uh well.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
You did until he told Jim.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
No, I do want to see I mean I did
screw up. I mean, that's that's just not cool. But yeah,
so we're going to have to there's going to be
an uncomfortable moment.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Do we need if we need to step in a
mediate you just let us know.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yeah, Well, we'll see, we'll see where it comes to,
all right.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Anyway, we've got no cliche keys to victory coming up
at six forty five.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Rick new Eisl was with us though earlier this week.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Every Tuesday at nine o'clock and often we replay some
of his conversation from the week right here at six
point thirty on Fridays, and we're going to do that
today the Wisconsin Badgers. So we'll be hosting the Washington Huskies.
Huskies coming off of by newly ranked twenty third in
the country, and Wisconsin has just.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Been flailing, failing at football.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Here under Luke Fickle, their head coach, who certainly went
to Wisconsin with all sorts of momentum as one of
the top coaches in college football, but it just hasn't
worked out since he went to Madison. And so we'll
just pick up the conversation when I asked a coach, Neuheisel,
why would a Husky fan be worried about Wisconsin at all?
Speaker 3 (24:07):
This Saturday.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
Well, just for the same reason we talked about Penn
State being dangerous. Do you just feel like this Wisconsin Tine,
given the pride that's associated with that program, is going
to rise up and win one of these games, and
you don't want to go in there and make it
make them feel that this is the Saturday that's going
to happen. So it's going to be really important that
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Washington get off to a fast start and show that
this is not going to be one of those weekends
where you're going to have your way. Fortunately, what times
that game start, So three point thirty in Camp Rantle.
That's late enough where you're not sitting there thinking about
your body clock. That will feel normal to the Dogs.
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And again, quarterback centric offenses need the quarterback to deliver.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
The Mom's going to.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
Have to be good and he's going to have to
his legs involved in the game. If his legs are
involved in the game, I always like Washington. If his
legs are not, I start worrying.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
All right, So once Luke Fickle gets fired and there
are one hundred and.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
It's gonna happen, It's gonna happen. No, first of all,
Chris McIntosh doesn't have the money. Second of all, it's
with all these firings, there aren't enough coaches to go
around and get you another good one. Well that was
going to be maybe a new offensive coordinator coming in
next year, but they basically have had a U turn.
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They started down a path trying to be something that
they weren't, trying to be a pat team, and they
realize that's not who they are nor how they can
augment their roster. So they basically did a U turn
and now they're going back down Barry Alvarez Boulevard. But
it's going to take a year to get themselves calibrated
to play like that again.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Break new Isiel from earlier in the week talking about
the Wisconsin Badgers and Luke Fick as their head coach,
And yes, I was trying to lead to a question
about are there going to be enough candidates for all
the jobs that are opening up? But that was the
isolated part and Rick new Isiel had some information there
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cut me off, and understandably so he was right. Just
yesterday we found out that the Wisconsin Badgers have no
intention of letting Luke Fickle go this offseason, despite the
fact that a really proud program and not an Ohio
State Michigan level history, but the next level for sure.
In the last twenty five years, I mean, this has
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been a top twelve program, top fifteen program in college football.
They just consistently win, and they consistently win the exact
same way. They just got a bunch of road graders
up front, and it doesn't matter who they put a tailback,
they rush for hundreds of yards. It feels like per game.
They've never with the exception of the Russell Wilson era
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in Wisconsin, had a G eight quarterback there in Madison,
and yet they always find ways to win. Luke Fickle
got there with all sorts of momentum coming out of Cincinnati,
and they really thought that he was going to do
magic up there, and instead the identity of the program
has just dissolved and now they don't do anything right.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
They don't do.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Anything right Bucky the Wisconsin Badgers feeling like they got
an improvement at head coach, They got one of the
hot names in college football. They ranked to this day
one hundred and thirty fifth in college football in offense,
one hundred and thirty fifth in the country. I mean,
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how many college football programs are there. One hundred and
thirty six now one hundred and thirty two, Like that
is as bad as it gets, especially for an offensive
minded head coach who rolled into Madison, Wisconsin not to
fix the program. He was just supposed to do, elevate,
take us to that next level, take us to that
top shelf, put us on that shelf with Michigan and
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Ohio State. And instead they've done nothing but tumble down
the ladder and they can't win a They can't win
a conference game right now in Madison, Wisconsin. That's how
bad it's fallen since Luke Fickle took over the place.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Yeah, well, coach said, and I understand it makes sense.
I mean you're right where. It seems like what we're
used to is that road graders. They run the ball,
they make it ugly, and they'll beat some teams, maybe
even sniper jump up and sniper or ranked team.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
From time to time and now.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Time to time, they were a top fifteen program in America.
At one point they won every year they competed for
Big ten titles.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
They always seem like a team that like competed like
they did, never felt like a team to me, that
was like this powerhouse, right but they felt like a
team like you can't ever overlook them. And right now,
I think that when they lose, they're the guy that
they had envisioned all offseason and all during you know, spring,
spring practice and whatnot. They're the Billy Edwards kid in
the first game, the quarterback. When they lost that, they
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they found a way to beat the Middle Tennessee's or
whatever early in the year, and then you know, they
dropped a fairly tight one against Alabama in their first
kind of big game and then lost one to Maryland.
After that, It's like they lost to Michigan Iowa, which
is a good team, but they got absolutely stomped, and
then Ohio State and Oregon. To me, I can see
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how Fickle's not getting his seat isn't heating up. To me,
it's like, Okay, you are bad right now compared to
what we thought you were going to be and obviously
where they projected him when he came from Cincinnati. But
I can also see how it's like, Okay, you lost
your starting quarterback and you haven't played any sort of
cupcake schedule, which you just don't when you're in the
Big Ten. So to me, it made sense how he
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wouldn't be necessarily on the hot seat.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Well, just to go through it, I mean three straight
Rose Bulls twenty ten, eleven and twelve, eleven and three
and twenty fourteen, Cotton Bowl in twenty sixteen, Orange Bowl
in twenty seventeen, you know, Rose Bowl again in twenty nineteen.
I mean, that's a stretch of ten years, eleven years,
they made four Rose Bowls. That's four Big Ten titles
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in eleven years. I don't even think Michigan's pulled that
off that much success Ohio State has. I mean, they
were right there with them, and they came off a
seven and six season and thought that they were slipping
and handed it over to Luke Fickle and they have
just gotten worse and worse seven and six, five and seven,
and this year can't win a game in the Big Ten. So,
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I mean that's a pretty lofty perch. Ten eleven years
winning four Big ten titles. Yeah, and that's that's that's
keeping company with the best in all of college football.
And they just don't look anything like it anymore. That said,
he still could get upset. Anything can happen on any
given Saturday, and so we you know, Husky Sert can't
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overlook the Wisconsin Badgers, but they're the most overlookable that
they have been in quite some time. All Right, coming
up next, no cliche keys to victory here on this
Friday Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. We always
kick it around first right here on Chuck and Buck
in the mornings.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Are no cliche keys to victory segment.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
You're not allowed to use winning the trenches or all
three phases or the turnover battle. We all understand those
are huge elements to winning football games. But I want
something specific, original from the mouths of the experts that
are Ashley Bucky Shock.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
Yeah, well, experts, I'll let you guys give expert opinions.
I'm going to give just what I think. Okay, Yeah,
it's fairly I mean, I think it's pretty cut and dry.
This is they're two different teams. One team is surging,
one team looks like they're a legitimate contender and can
go out and beat anybody. The other team is I
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would say, grasping at the hope that everybody rises up
for a division battle. That's basically where I kind of
leave the That's where the Cardinals and their hope this
weekend kind of ends. Now, that could be something we
have seen. These teams play tough, and division games typically are,
but I think it's I think if you can get
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pressure on Jacoby Brissett, I think he's going to make mistakes.
I think it's going to be a long day for
their offense, and I think that that's basically all they
have to do. This defense is kind of rocking and
rolling right now. The offense is most certainly capable of
keeping you in a game even if the offense the
defense doesn't play spectacular. But outside of that Tampa Bay game,
the defense has been really good. I think the defense
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continues to kind of hold these guys to somewhere around
twenty points and the offense goes way over that.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
All right, So pressure on, pressure on Jacoby Brissett.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
As cliche ket, that was actually gonna be mine as well.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
He was sacked five times against the Cowboys on Monday.
He still managed to have a pretty decent in game.
Obviously they won, but the Cowboys defense is not nearly
as good as the Seahawks defense. He only fumbled one
time in that game, but I think the Seahawks defense
getting well. But I'm just saying for being sacked five times,
and I but again, not a good defense. So I
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think when you're dealing with what the Seahawks defense actually brings,
I would expect three more sacks at least, just crush them.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
All Right.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
It's interesting because look, I expect the Seahawks to win,
and I think that I'd be shocked if we weren't
talking about a victory on Monday and Monday morning quarterback.
But my keys, because Hughes said you have to win
this game yesterday in the roundtable and Bucky is you know,
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sounds to me like you're not giving the Cardinals much
of a chance. And yet I wrote down, don't underestimate them.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
No, that's good.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
The Cardinals have five losses this year, right, three and
five on the year, by one point to San Francisco,
three points to Seattle, one point, four points to Indianapolis,
and four points to Green Bay. So they've lost five
games to four playoff caliber teams, out of those five
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by a combined thirteen points.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
So they have competed with every single team that they've
played and beaten three of them. And so even though
man command, I don't think that the Cardinals match up
with the Seahawks, certainly the way that the Seahawks are
playing right now. I've said this for now years with
Jonathan Gannon. They play hard for this guy. I don't
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know what it is, but the Arizona Cardinals play hard
and tough every single week. So Jonathan Gannon has introduced
a different sort of mentality to the Arizona Cardinals and
they have not They have not let up once in
that area. So and they're playing better four berset than
they were for Murray. And they're really not good at anything.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
But they're not bad at anything.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
They're not top ten in any of the major team
statistical categories. They're not bottom ten in any of the
major team statistical categories. So what you're gonna get out
of the Arizona Cardinals is a good, honest, lunch paiale
effort from them. And I know that they sort of
built their reputation about Kurt Warner and high flying offense
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and putting a lot of points on the board, and
they've never really shaken that reputation. But this is a
team that grinds it out. They're like a Big ten team.
I mean, they just they want to grind it out
against you and be there in the fourth quarter. And
maybe they don't have finishers, but they certainly play every
team tough that they go up again. So we're gonna
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get We're gonna get punched in the mouth, But I
think that we have good counter punches here in Seattle.
So I'm expecting sort of a tight game that the
Seahawks do win by six seven points.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Yeah, but don't underestimate them.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Well, especially at home, we have been very good at Yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
I think that they show up with their lunch pail,
but if you punch them in the mouth a couple
of times, I think that they can. I mean, they
also are a team that will play down to They'll
play down to things. They're going to rise to the
occasion and you're gonna have to You're gonna have to
knock them down. They're gonna get back up a couple
of times, but I think you end up knocking them out.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
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