December 1, 2025 • 37 mins
Headlines and 12th man news with GREGG BELL (Tacoma News Tribune) The Seahawks were a week late on Gregg’s predicted shutout, but they got it done against the Vikings! What concerns did Gregg have following that win? What were Brian Flores and the Vikings defense doing that was so successful in shutting the Hawks offense down? How about that Seahawks defense?!?! :30- It’s time to hear from Mike MacDonald in his postgame comments. Does he have any concerns about the offense? :35- We have entered the last week of Fact or Fiction; can Chuck get us off on the right foot? :45- Lane Kiffin strikes again! The Ole Miss head coach is leaving for LSU and after he didn’t get his way, he threatened to take his whole staff with him.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
After you see, I was second and six for the Seahawks,
sharpening again over the last side breaks, the tackle got up,
Stree tucksdown first of the day for the Seahawks offense.
(00:22):
Joe Davis on the call on Fox yesterday the Seahawks
twenty six nothing win over the Minnesota Vikings, he I
don't know why he was calling an NFL game between
the Seahawks and Vikings, and yet I could just feel
him rooting for the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, I don't know what it was about. The entire broadcast.
He was annoying the hell out of me. Well, yesterday
with his game call.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I will say yesterday was surprising because it was Greg
Olsen with him, right, Yeah, it was the first day
that Greg Olsen.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Didn't annoy me as much as he.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I just think he talks too much usually, Like sometimes
like it just seems like he's talking endlessly. I'm like,
you don't need to just fill every vom.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, I guess there's some truth to that. Some people
were comparing it to sounding like a podcast instead of
yeah a game a game.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Yeah, when take the snap, I don't need you to
still be talking.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
He does insert his opinion a lot too. Yeah, all right,
seven o'clock hour, Good morning to you all. I hope
you had a great Thanksgiving weekend. We got a lot
of football to discuss today. Greg Bell will be joining
us here in a matter of a couple of minutes,
and then Hugh Milling at eight o'clock. Mike homeran at
nine o'clock to talk about a twenty six nothing shut
out went over the Minnesota Vikings. That improved the Seahawks
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two nine and three on the year. The Rams lost yesterday,
so they are also nine and three. Forty nine Ers
won yesterday over Cleveland. They're just right there despite all
their injuries. Kyle Shannan asthm at nine and four. So
three of these six teams in the National Football League
with nine wins or more, all hail and the NFC
(01:55):
West for goodness sake. So that's where our headlines begin.
Brought to you by Frost Brewed Corps. Like college football,
I might raise my hand and say this might be
the first time in my life, and I'm a huge
college football fan, have been since I was a kid.
Same thing with the National Football League. This was the
first time, maybe in my life that the NFL Sunday
felt so weak compared to college football Saturday. Like I got.
(02:21):
I watched college football Saturday, woke up and getting ready
to watch the NFL Sunday, and I'm like, man, this
does not compare to the energy and the height that
I felt like we experienced yesterday. And I give all
the credit in the world to actually having an NCAA tournament,
actually having a tournament and having more people involved and
more things on the line on the last day of
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the regular season. That's what I give the credit to.
So it was a fun college football weekend, even though
Washington took it on the chin against Oregon twenty six
to fourteen, competitive game, but Oregon ends up pulling away
late in that contest. This week is conference championship week
and Selection Sunday is coming up in six days to
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determine the NCAA Tournament field. Lane Kiffin is leading All
miss and he is heading to LSU. We will talk
about this later on in the hour, because this is
some mound of BS right here that we're dealing with.
So we'll talk about Lane Kiffin later on in the hour.
Crack and haven't won since I last was on the
show Friday. I don't know what went wrong, but there'll
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be in action against Edmonton on Thursday. And we are
less than a week away from the Winter Meetings getting started.
It's already been a rather interesting offseason so far across
Major League Baseball. And for the Mariners, just re signing
Josh Naylor and extending him has already gave them a
better offseason than they had last offseason. And we're not
even to the Winter Meetings yet, and so that will
(03:46):
get cranked up starting on Sunday night. So those are
your headlines, brought to you by Frostbrewed Corps Light Choose Chill.
Right now, let's chat with Greg Bell.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
With the bell tolls.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
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Speaker 1 (04:13):
Now with plump Man News, here's Greg Bell with Chuck
and Butt.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Come on in, Greg, good morning.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Did you have a good Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
That was great?
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Had kids together, the four of us back together?
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Great?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Nice, nice, nice, nice All right, excellent. Well, I don't know.
I wasn't here obviously the last week to hear if
you predicted another shutout, did you product a shutout again
this week? Because it actually would have come true this week?
Speaker 6 (04:43):
Yeah, I did say I was wrong on the shutout
last week. I implied that was I implied that was possible.
I had it, had my ready fingertips the last time
they had a shut out because I'd just done the
research for Tennessee. I said they wouldn't score a touchdown.
I think I said that scored two field goal six
points or something. But he that was as it should
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have been. An undrafted rookie quarterback four years at an
FCS level playing his first game against the Mike McDonald defense,
and it happened just as it should have, and just
as I thought it would. Most people thought it would
four interceptions. They sacked them three, two or three four times,
completely controlled the game. Minnesota had one hundred and sixty
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two yards. Sam donald could have turned it over ten
times and the Seahawks still would have won that game.
So by the second quarter, I was writing my game
story already for the News Tribune, and what I decided
right about was is this team, specifically this offense, with
this quarterback good enough to win the NFC West, being
good enough to beat the Rams and the forty nine ers,
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And I don't think yesterday is conclusive at all, to
say the least toward that regard and really their season.
Sam Donald has a propensity to drop the ball, and
the most important thing that he can be at a
quarterback is secure of the ball. It's part of the
quarterback's job that when he is in the pocket, he
will get hit at times, and sometimes more than others,
and some schemes more than others, will exploit that. Obviously,
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Brian Flores is blitzing early in the game, dropping defensive
tackles off later in.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
The game, having he had Anthony Bradford and others not
just Bradford just standing around like they were waiting on
a light rail train instead of blocking anyone on some
pass protection.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
That's an issue. And then when you can't get the
ball out in time, you have to hold onto it,
you can't drop it, and he loses the ball a
lot in the pocket. I thought the most interesting thing
in the post game, beside Ernest Jones and his personal
re vitalization, and he was a great story and explaining
it to the team and then to me when I
asked him after the game. But he found himself last week.
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But from a football standpoint, the most interesting thing to
me was Cooper Cup when I asked him, okay, specifically,
what do you need to fix offensively because it's pretty
hard on himself in the offense after the game, and
he said, Well, when teams come at us like that
with pass pressure, if they're batting down passes, we need
to get outside the pocket and get the quarterback on
the move. If they're getting pressure, then we need to
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run away from the pressure. We need to throw run
routes and Noa's receivers that maybe instead of our fifteen
and twenty and ten yard routes, they need to be
two yard routes I'm paraphrasing. And that change started to
happen later in the game. But they came out trying
to do what they did all season with Jackson Smith
and Jegu do ten, twelve, fifteen yard routes and Flores's
pass rush would not allow it, and it took them
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almost a full half to figure that out and change
and adjust to that. Suffice to say, guys, that offensively,
there are warning bells about how sustainable this team defense
can win almost every game playing like that yesterday, but
they're not going to get an undrafted rookie quarterback starting
against them when they play the Rams forty nine ers
in playoff teams.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
Yeah, well, I mean, what was it that Flores was doing?
Because I do think you get to this time the
year and it's that you have to adjust to the
adjustments that are made against you. There's enough film that
people understand, Okay, this is not just maybe they're going
to do this. You know for a fact, they're going
to try to go to Jackson Smith and Jigman. You
know they're going to do with those ten fifteen yard
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routes and he's going to put up the big numbers,
and so teams start adjusting and you have to readjust
so what was it that the defense was doing, because
I do feel like this wasn't the only game across
the NFL that you saw people come up with game
plans that were stopping what had been successful for some teams.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Well, Bucky, let's start with the fact that the Falcons
this week, the Colts the week after the Rams again,
and the forty nine ers and so on are going
to look at this tape and what the Vikings and
Floryd's did and try to replicate it.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
They're going to copy.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
That's the way that we get nothing new.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
On Smith and Jigby. They had a cornerback covering low.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
They had a safety over the top. They were shading
when they were in single high or even two high coverage,
they were shading the safety over to his side. That's
something every team has done all year. Yet he's still
beating it for on pace to be two thousand yards
until yesterday. What the Vikings did is they did that,
but then they had a pass rush that made Donald
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have to get rid of the ball or lose the
ball before the Smith and Jimmy ran the twelve to
fifteen yard routes. I'm thinking of a third down in
the red zone in the first half where he was
on the left side and in a bunch formation, three
wide receivers to the left, and it was third and
goal at the eleven after an ill fated second down run,
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and Donald waited for Smith Jigby to run a twelve
yard in route. He was one yard inside the goal
line while he was waiting Van Nell or whatever the
hell of the guy's name is on the left edge,
did a spin move and beat VN Kinkle did a
spin movie did he beat the tight end? And he
beat the chipping line running back with a spin move
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And that was even a blitz. That was a fake blitz.
So what Flores did? He started the.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Game by blitzing?
Speaker 6 (10:01):
How was he doing that? Well? He was putting his
defensive lineman and dropping him fake pass rushing and then
dropping them and then sending linebackers where usually the defensive.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Lineman will go.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
And the Seahawks Anthony Bradford, notably in a couple of plays,
were tracking the defensive linemen who weren't pass rushing, and
they were standing there watching the guys they thought they
were going to block backpedal, and while they were watching them,
the linebacker was speeding right by him. They never saw him.
That happened in the inside linebackers stack on a third
down in the first quarter. So Flora started blitzing, and
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the Seahawks tried to adjust to that. So then Flora's
counter to that counter was I'll fake the blitz, And
then the Seahawks couldn't one on one pass rush with
spin moves all the while Smith and jigg was running
twelve and fifteen yards down the field. Donald didn't have
time for that, and so Flores's schemes confused the pass
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protection enough that made a twelve yard route next to impossible.
So what started happening in the second half, you started
right away in the third quarter. First of all, they
ran the ball more, and they treated Kenneth Walker like
a lead running back at the start of each half.
But then when they did throw to Smith and jig
With the way he got his first catch six minutes
left in the third quarter was on like a two
yard route, a quick out route, and then his second
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catch was basically an extended handoff a no step Sam
Donald turn and throw the ball to Smith and Jigbad
basically a bubble screen. And so those are the opposite
of ten to fifteen and twenty yard routes that got
him the league's leading receiver in yards. That's the change
that they made, but not until the third quarter, And
so that's why it took so long for Smith and
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Jigby to be part of the game, because what he
had done all season, the Vikings took it away. Having
said all of that, is still got a hold onto
the ball. A quarterback number one job is ball security,
and if he's gonna get blitzed, if he's gonna get pressure,
no matter how the pressure comes, he still has to
hold onto the ball, meaning and take the sack. If
you take the sack, you don't turn them all over
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in your own red zone and so on. And that
has been a problem all season. It's fifteen turnovers now,
ten interceptions and five lost fumbles. That's the second most
turnovers in the league behind tung Oviola the Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah. I don't know if anybody would have guessed JSN
and Justin Jefferson would have combined for four catches and
twenty seven yards in the game without either of them
being injured. They played four full.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
Course deep into the third quarter. They had five combined
targets and no catches.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yeah, yeah crazy. Greg Bell is with us our Seahawks insider.
You can follow mat g bel Seattle and of course
get complete coverage of yesterday's twenty six nothing when they're
at Thenewstribune dot com. Joins us A here this morning
to recap the twenty six nothing victory over the Minnesota Vikings.
Let's hand out some flowers though, to that defensive side
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of the ball. Who do you think Mike McDonald would say,
I had the better game Ernest Jones, DeMarcus Lawrence or
somebody else.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
De Marcus Lawrence and Lawrence while the coach with what
he called his new favorite all time play. He was
pass rushing in the second half. They threw to the
running back behind him. He fell to the ground as
he was passed. Run and got off the ground and
ran toward his own goal line and sprinted from behind
and knocked the ball out from Jones caused to funnel
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the title Cotter Recover and that play. He'll show it
five hundred times on film this week with his teammates.
It just he said, it was an incredible, unbelievable play
for a guy to show that effort. He's a twelve
year veteran at thirty two years old. He caused the
interception that Ernest Jones ran back the eighty five year touchdown.
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I mean, Brosmer that I don't care what your tenure is,
rookie quarterback or not, you just can't chuck the ball sideways.
It's fourth down, yes, so he's thinking, I can't take
a sack here, but you can't do that, just hand
the ball like a horseshoe toss to the linebacker standing
ten yards in front of you. That changed the game.
The Vikings after that turnover that Darnald gave him were
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poised to go in and take a seven to three lead,
and it became ten to nothing instead because of Brozeman
just handing the ball to Jones thanks to Marcus Lawrence
on that play. The Vikings counted on Lawrence either getting
sneaky on the boot leg or not looping outside but
just holding the edge, and they thought that Brozemer could
beat him to the outside instead, McDonald's call was for
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him the Marcus Lawrence to loop outside opposite the flow
to play. That was a flow play action to the
left and then I'll roll out to the right. And
it appeared to me that McDonald called for Lawrence to
do that because the natural thing would have been for
Lawrence to flow with the play to his right. He
looped to the left, absolutely opposite of the playfake like
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it never happened, and was just in the face of
Rozeman before he even had a chance to do anything.
So credit McDonald for that and Kevin O'Connell after the
game said well, calling it a catastrophically bad play, said that, yeah,
the defensive end looping outside is what ruined that play.
Marcus Lawrence has been a revelation for them eleven years
in Dallas. He has made them whole on the defensive line.
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Teams in pass rush pass protection can't just say well,
let's just focus on Leonard Williams, an all Pro type
defensive linemen. They if they devote two guys to block,
including chippers to block Lawrence or excuse me to buck Williams,
then Lawrence is alone basically one on one.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
So they that has.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
Evened out the pass protection plan against Seattle, and the
defensive line is feasting because of Lawrence.
Speaker 7 (15:29):
Ernest Jones was down on the field for just a minute,
got up and got off the field under his own power.
So I don't think it's anything crazy, but he's pretty
important to this defense health wise.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Is he good?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
You think he.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
Said he's fine. The striking thing to me about that
eighty five yard interception returns how fast and fluid he
looked running right because he had a bulky right knee
brace at rams game and he missed two of the
previous three games, missed a little bit of practice time
this past week, then came back to full go at
the end. He said he felt fast and good on
that run. He was sitting up injured there and briefly
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went off, but as soon as he went off, he
didn't go into the ten. Even the ten was up,
and he asked for his helmet back and he would
have gone back and had the Vikings gotten a first
down that drive, he missed two plays, including the fourth down,
and that's why he didn't come back in. And then
when it was the next time for defense come on
the field, it was garbage time with the minute left
and twenty six nothing, so the reserves were on and
Jones wasn't there. So he said he's fine. He said
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that he found himself basically this past week. Wasn't living
the way he wanted to. Wasn't dealing well with his
father's death. His best friend, his father Guy he spoke
to every Tuesday in the offseasons their in season passed
away in July of ewing sarcoma. He said he wasn't
handling that right. It wasn't living the way he wants
to live. With the cross, he wears around his neck,
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and he got down on his knees and prayed this
past week and said that he's changing his life. And
he told his team that after the game in a
very vulnerable moment. McDonald called it one of the best
locker room speeches he'd ever seen. So it was a
much bigger week for Ernest Jones.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
In the game yesterday, Uh well I think that might
be where we needed. How we're gonna uh follow up
on that. So all right, excellent stuff here today. Appreciate it,
mister Bell, Thank you very much, and uh, we'll do
it again next week. Well, actually, we'll talk to you
again tomorrow. What am I talking about? Well, rusty girl,
I've had a.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Few days though.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
I thought I was getting the week off.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Okay, oh you got the week off.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
This is new to me.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
I thought when you set out, we'll do it again
next week.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Oh no, no, no, no, we're gonna do it. As
a matter of fact, we might even call you later
on today like this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, all right, awesome stuff man.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
All right, Greg Bell, our Seahawks insider. If you want
to read up on that Ernest Jones story or any
of his recap stories. You can do so at the
News Tribune dot com, and you can certainly follow Greg
at you Bell Seattle. His segment with us is brought
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prosecco experience on Thanksgiving. And I don't think anyone else
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Speaker 4 (18:09):
Really, that's how it should be.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
Well, yeah, that's nice. You know, you have to dirty
a glass, then you just go straight to the head.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, I mean, I mean there were a lot of
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on the radio program, we will play some factor fiction
this is it. This is the final week, so all
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of these picks are crucial. So I haven't made a
pick in over a week. It will be my turn today.
I'll make that at seven thirty five. Also, we'll hear
from Mike McDonald after yesterday's shut out victory at Sports
Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Be Monday to you all, Chuck,
Buck and Ashley together here on this Monday, Happy Thanksgiving up.
(19:21):
You had a great one as we roll into a
brand new week. Did you put the tree up then?
Immediately after the Turkey dinner Friday day? Like immediately that
was like the thing to do as soon as midnight hit?
Speaker 5 (19:35):
No?
Speaker 7 (19:35):
Oh no, we had a we had other stuff to do.
We're actually going and getting the Christmas tree today. Oh wow,
we've already started celebrating Christmas. Lights are up and whatnot,
just haven't got the tree. And we haven't got the
tree yet.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
My house looks like Christmas exploded?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Is that right? When did you do yours on Friday?
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
And then well Friday, and then I did the lights
yesterday morning. Outside, So the outside I was yesterday because
it's nice and dry still, but Friday, because Friday took
almost all day to do inside because you got to,
you know, take out the fall stuff and organize and
storage bins and all that stuff. And then Saturday we
were at the Husky game all day, so then Sunday
was outside.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Got a nice property there, I would imagine you can
make it quite beautiful. Do you go overboard? Do you,
Clark Griswolds?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
We do not, ye though, like I just do, like
I make it look like there's a little river of
water of Christmas lights going down. We're like, we have
some rocks and then we've got some lights in the
courtyard on the bushes and that's it.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
You have a courtyard.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, Bucky, he'll be Bucky, and I'll be there Christmas morning.
I can't wait. Pajamas see you, Ben.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Eh, very exciting, But then you got to be prepared.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Then we go over for Christmas to Mum's house, so
we'll have to have Martini's, Yeah, martini z eggnog, you
know all that fun stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah. I was watching a little bit of uh because
I do watch this every once a while. Food Network,
And have you ever heard of Jeffrey Z. Carrion. He's
ate one of the Iron chefs. Oh, yeah, And he
was asked point blank, what do you think of when
you think about Christmas dining? He goes, Martiniz, never even
realized that was a thing.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Yeah, it is now it is official.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
All right, factor fiction coming up at seven thirty five.
But Mike McDonald, you have heard his comments just there
coming out of the break. Obviously, you gotta feel good
when you're a head coach to win a football game, period,
much less to win one by twenty six points in
the National Football League. But when you're a defensive minded
head coach and you shut out an opponent, I don't
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care if they're starting their eleventh string quarterback. I don't
care if they're starting, you know, a backup safety because
they don't have another choice at quarterback.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Man.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Do NFL defensive head coaches love posting zerosts?
Speaker 7 (21:49):
Yeah, I can understand why. I mean, it's got to
feel good when you end up winning a game as
lopsided as that was, and yet you didn't really play
well at all on one side of the ball. And
so I mean, that's what a defensive minded coach I
would imagine their blueprint.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
What they would love is to have.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
A potent offense and a dominant defense, you know, just
do that every single week. And yet that's really not
the nature of the beast. You're not going to have
all pro players all over the place. He's got the
defense ripping right now and playing playing well that they're
all kind of coming together and understanding the concepts that
we've heard are complicated and difficult to figure out. And
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yet now you've had guys that have been here for
you know, nearing twenty games and or over twenty games,
and they've got to figure out how to how he
wants them to do it, and the complex nature in
which it's supposed to be done, and everybody's supposed to
be where they're supposed to be. It's it's rolling right now.
I mean, there's no doubt that they're kind of clicking
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on all soonders on that side of the ball, and
so it makes up for lacking other things, whether it
be kind of coughing the ball up more than you
would like or turning the ball over more than you'd like.
But if you're not even doing to bend, let alone
a bend but don't break situation, you're going to be
in every single game to play well.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Only on in twenty eight passing yards. Yesterday, Sam Donald
barely completed over fifty percent of his passes. That was
the worst pass protection sam Donold has had as a
Sea Hawks. So even though the defense shined, were there
any concerns on the offensive side of the ball from
the head coaches.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
Perspective, No, it's the same thing every week. It's look
that there's there's things that that Minnesota did that was
really good, and there's some things that we capitalize on
which is good for us, and we got to we
got to understand those things so we can make sure
they're not issues moving forward. But that's the same thing
every week.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
It's every phase.
Speaker 8 (23:42):
You know, everybody at this time of year, you know,
it's hard to come up with the new ideas. So
there's a lot of you know, teams being inspired by
things that happened from prior weeks.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
It happens in all three phases.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Happens every week.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
So same process.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
It's so true. I mean, it's whack a mole, like,
all right, we got I know that the moles not
coming out of this hole. Got this one covered. Oh
it's came over there. And that's the life in the
National Football League. The hot and cold nature, especially this season,
of all the teams in the National Football League. Yes,
it has been insane. I think the Seahawks have been
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one of the most consistently operated teams this year, along
with the Los Angeles Rams. But yeah, the offense didn't
play a great game yesterday, didn't matter. The defense was
that special. We'll talk more about it with Hugh starting
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right here on KJAR. Coming up next, we'll have a
little bit of time. We'll talk more about it tomorrow,
but a little bit of time we have to talk
about this Lane Kiffin situation right here on Chuck and
Bucks Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Here me
little join us at eight o'clock. Mike Ho I'm ran
at nine o'clock, So two hours of Sea Hawk talk
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after a twenty six nothing shutout went over the Minnesota
Vikings yesterday to improve the team to nine and three.
If I know Hugh Millan, and I think we all
know Hugh Millan, he probably wants to talk a little
college football. But we'll see, we'll see, we'll see how
the two hours go. This will be our only opportunity
to talk about Lane Kiffin today. It's such a big topic.
There are so many layers to it. We will certainly
(29:48):
spend more time on it tomorrow. I'm sure that you
two have your thoughts, and I'm trying to figure out, like, Okay,
we've got just this one segment. What do I want
to isolate? And I think what's most important to relay
this morning is what it appears to me has happened.
And that was that Lane Kiffin's known for a long
time he was going to LSU. The moment that they
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showed how interested they were, he just, you know, he
was gone. The bags were packed, but he still wanted
to coach his team out and see if they can
make the SEC Championship game, and so on and so forth.
And then as the clock came down, he kept acting
acting like how difficult a decision it was. And I'm
(30:31):
going to meet with these people on this day, and
meet with those people on that day, and I consult
with my mentors and everything else throughout the course of
the week and what I've gathered or what it feels like.
And I'm reading between the tea leaves here. I don't
know for a fact is. It sounds like it was,
I'm leaving for LSU, will you let me coach my
(30:53):
team the rest of the way? Will you let me
coach when I'm the head coach of your most hated
rival basically, or one of them? Will you let me
coach the rest of the season. That's what the negotiation
was Saturday, the cloak and Dagger negotiation. And then apparently
(31:13):
he played hardball and said, if you don't let me
do it, I'm taking all of my coaches with me,
and so the players who've acted like I've cared about
this entire time, I'm going to strip them of any
chance of winning in the tournament because I'm going to
try to take all of my coaches as a leverage
play for you to let me coach in the tournament
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before I go to LSU while I'm recruiting for LSU.
This was what he was trying to negotiate at the end,
and then he didn't get his way. Apparently he went
to his coaches and said, if you don't come with
me right now, you're not going to be on my staff.
And a couple of them went, and most of them stayed,
(31:55):
and so that's how the lane Kevin Era ends in
Ole Miss and I understand a hundred third percent why
Rebels fans hate his guts right now.
Speaker 7 (32:04):
Yeah, I just don't understand how it works the way
that it works. I mean, I'm not going to fall
team Bay for taking a job that they think is better, right,
And LSU if he thinks, you know right now you're
going to go to a team and try to build
them up to a college playoff team, and you're leaving
a team that's going to be in the college football playoffs,
(32:24):
I don't fully understand. My whole thing is if you're
so sought after, if LSU wants you so bad, and.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I don't know why they do, Frank, how do you.
Speaker 7 (32:32):
Not how do you not tell them I can't leave
this team before I've seen it to the end. And
if you can't handle that, then I can't take the job.
How can you not have that integrity? I would think
as an employer, as the future employer.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
LSU, you would like that.
Speaker 7 (32:52):
Yeah, you would be like, you know what, I'm glad
you're standing on that. That's good. That shows me something
versus the pettiness of there must have been somewhere I
would have to think that he wanted to see this
thing through, and yet he wanted his.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Cake and he wanted to eat it too. Yeah, I
want the job, but you should give me the chance
to see if I can win a national championship with
the team that I'm abandoning.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
Yeah, and yet yeah, I mean I guess to some
degree it's like, well, we don't want you to win
a NAST championship, so now it's I don't have I mean,
obviously there's one duck that I have a rooting interest for,
and other than that it's old Miss. I will be
cheering hard for old Miss to win it, and then
him to go tell's you and never win it, just
because the integrity that you, the lack thereof, is just
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I just can't.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
It's just gross to me.
Speaker 7 (33:41):
I mean, yet you should be able to stand on
it and say, I am the most sought after coach
right now in this coaching cycle apparently, and so if
you want me, you have to let me do what's
right by this. The kids, the guys that I'm coaching.
I can't lead them to this place and then bolt
on him and yank all the coaches out underneath him.
(34:03):
It's it's pitiful. To be honest, it's it's gross and
you're you are. I think he got really mad when
somebody called him a hoe. Well m sorry, bud. Yeah,
knack like one, walk like one, talk like one.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
You might be one.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Yeah, he's a petulant brat.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
And he tried to show everybody that he'd changed and
that he was different, and maybe for a brief amount
of time he had changed and he was different. And
then when he wasn't going to get his way and
do exactly how he wanted to do it, dictate exactly
how he was going to abandon one program and go
to another program, then he threw a fit and basically
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took all his toys and went home and was like, okay,
well then if that's the case, then I'm going to
screw you guys over And I don't care yep, exactly.
It's not about the players at all. Also, I don't
think it is a better job.
Speaker 9 (34:56):
He just got offered a lot more money his historically is.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
But I'll say this to your point, I mean, it
doesn't have to be going forward. It's all about nil
and whichever whichever alums want to fork out the most money.
And you might have a situation where there's gonna be
more of it at Ole Miss than LSU. Probably not,
but that's what Nick Saban said on Saturday. He's gonna
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go to the place that he feels where he can
get the best players, and that probably is LSU. But
there is a way that you can handle it. And
of course Lane kiffen mishandled it entirely, and then for
those that are we'll let him coach it out. What's
it gonna hurt? Are you kidding me? I mean, can
you imagine like going to your spouse and saying, Hey,
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I'm leaving you, and I'm gonna leave you for the
person you hate the most. And in the meantime, because
I can't do it right away, I'm gonna need you
to be a buddy and just act like everything's fine
and is dinner just about ready?
Speaker 6 (35:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Yeah, because I'm just gonna stay here for a while.
Yeah that's okay. Yeah, And I'm gonna live in the house.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
I'm gonna live in the house and and just know
that soon I will be making sweet love to the
person that you hate. Yeah. But uh, and for the
rest of my life probably. But in the meantime, could
you be a buddy in cleanup.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
And also I have some laundry that's got to get done.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
No way do you let him go. He's recruiting for
LSU right now, and you're gonna let him coach? Oh mess,
of course you can't.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
And then all those players keep loving him and then
they all leave.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Yeah, so we'll have more time talk about tomorrow. And
I don't ever want to hear anybody bag at player
again when when coaches act this way, I mean, Christian
McCaffrey didn't want to play in a meaningless Bowl game
to protect himself for the NFL draft, ever, giving himself
to Stanford for four years and like carrying the ball
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thirty times a game. And here's Lane Kiffin on the
verge of the postseason tournament, not thinking that's important enough
to stay for just out of just selfish, selfish interest
financially to get to a better place. All right, we'll
talk more about it tomorrow. Hugh Millin's next Sports Radio
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After you see, I was second and six for the Seahawks,
sharpening again over the last side breaks, the tackle got up,
Stree tucksdown first of the day for the Seahawks offense.
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Joe Davis on the call on Fox yesterday the Seahawks
twenty six nothing win over the Minnesota Vikings, he I
don't know why he was calling an NFL game between
the Seahawks and Vikings, and yet I could just feel
him rooting for the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, I don't know what it was about. The entire broadcast.
He was annoying the hell out of me. Well, yesterday
with his game call.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I will say yesterday was surprising because it was Greg
Olsen with him, right, Yeah, it was the first day
that Greg Olsen.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Didn't annoy me as much as he.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I just think he talks too much usually, Like sometimes
like it just seems like he's talking endlessly. I'm like,
you don't need to just fill every vom.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, I guess there's some truth to that. Some people
were comparing it to sounding like a podcast instead of
yeah a game a game.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Yeah, when take the snap, I don't need you to
still be talking.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
He does insert his opinion a lot too. Yeah, all right,
seven o'clock hour, Good morning to you all. I hope
you had a great Thanksgiving weekend. We got a lot
of football to discuss today. Greg Bell will be joining
us here in a matter of a couple of minutes,
and then Hugh Milling at eight o'clock. Mike homeran at
nine o'clock to talk about a twenty six nothing shut
out went over the Minnesota Vikings. That improved the Seahawks
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two nine and three on the year. The Rams lost yesterday,
so they are also nine and three. Forty nine Ers
won yesterday over Cleveland. They're just right there despite all
their injuries. Kyle Shannan asthm at nine and four. So
three of these six teams in the National Football League
with nine wins or more, all hail and the NFC
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West for goodness sake. So that's where our headlines begin.
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I might raise my hand and say this might be
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Same thing with the National Football League. This was the
first time, maybe in my life that the NFL Sunday
felt so weak compared to college football Saturday. Like I got.
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I watched college football Saturday, woke up and getting ready
to watch the NFL Sunday, and I'm like, man, this
does not compare to the energy and the height that
I felt like we experienced yesterday. And I give all
the credit in the world to actually having an NCAA tournament,
actually having a tournament and having more people involved and
more things on the line on the last day of
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the regular season. That's what I give the credit to.
So it was a fun college football weekend, even though
Washington took it on the chin against Oregon twenty six
to fourteen, competitive game, but Oregon ends up pulling away
late in that contest. This week is conference championship week
and Selection Sunday is coming up in six days to
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determine the NCAA Tournament field. Lane Kiffin is leading All
miss and he is heading to LSU. We will talk
about this later on in the hour, because this is
some mound of BS right here that we're dealing with.
So we'll talk about Lane Kiffin later on in the hour.
Crack and haven't won since I last was on the
show Friday. I don't know what went wrong, but there'll
(03:25):
be in action against Edmonton on Thursday. And we are
less than a week away from the Winter Meetings getting started.
It's already been a rather interesting offseason so far across
Major League Baseball. And for the Mariners, just re signing
Josh Naylor and extending him has already gave them a
better offseason than they had last offseason. And we're not
even to the Winter Meetings yet, and so that will
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get cranked up starting on Sunday night. So those are
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Right now, let's chat with Greg Bell.
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Now with plump Man News, here's Greg Bell with Chuck
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Speaker 2 (04:18):
Come on in, Greg, good morning.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Did you have a good Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
That was great?
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Had kids together, the four of us back together?
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Great?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Nice, nice, nice, nice All right, excellent. Well, I don't know.
I wasn't here obviously the last week to hear if
you predicted another shutout, did you product a shutout again
this week? Because it actually would have come true this week?
Speaker 6 (04:43):
Yeah, I did say I was wrong on the shutout
last week. I implied that was I implied that was possible.
I had it, had my ready fingertips the last time
they had a shut out because I'd just done the
research for Tennessee. I said they wouldn't score a touchdown.
I think I said that scored two field goal six
points or something. But he that was as it should
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have been. An undrafted rookie quarterback four years at an
FCS level playing his first game against the Mike McDonald defense,
and it happened just as it should have, and just
as I thought it would. Most people thought it would
four interceptions. They sacked them three, two or three four times,
completely controlled the game. Minnesota had one hundred and sixty
(05:26):
two yards. Sam donald could have turned it over ten
times and the Seahawks still would have won that game.
So by the second quarter, I was writing my game
story already for the News Tribune, and what I decided
right about was is this team, specifically this offense, with
this quarterback good enough to win the NFC West, being
good enough to beat the Rams and the forty nine ers,
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And I don't think yesterday is conclusive at all, to
say the least toward that regard and really their season.
Sam Donald has a propensity to drop the ball, and
the most important thing that he can be at a
quarterback is secure of the ball. It's part of the
quarterback's job that when he is in the pocket, he
will get hit at times, and sometimes more than others,
and some schemes more than others, will exploit that. Obviously,
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Brian Flores is blitzing early in the game, dropping defensive
tackles off later in.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
The game, having he had Anthony Bradford and others not
just Bradford just standing around like they were waiting on
a light rail train instead of blocking anyone on some
pass protection.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
That's an issue. And then when you can't get the
ball out in time, you have to hold onto it,
you can't drop it, and he loses the ball a
lot in the pocket. I thought the most interesting thing
in the post game, beside Ernest Jones and his personal
re vitalization, and he was a great story and explaining
it to the team and then to me when I
asked him after the game. But he found himself last week.
(06:51):
But from a football standpoint, the most interesting thing to
me was Cooper Cup when I asked him, okay, specifically,
what do you need to fix offensively because it's pretty
hard on himself in the offense after the game, and
he said, Well, when teams come at us like that
with pass pressure, if they're batting down passes, we need
to get outside the pocket and get the quarterback on
the move. If they're getting pressure, then we need to
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run away from the pressure. We need to throw run
routes and Noa's receivers that maybe instead of our fifteen
and twenty and ten yard routes, they need to be
two yard routes I'm paraphrasing. And that change started to
happen later in the game. But they came out trying
to do what they did all season with Jackson Smith
and Jegu do ten, twelve, fifteen yard routes and Flores's
pass rush would not allow it, and it took them
(07:35):
almost a full half to figure that out and change
and adjust to that. Suffice to say, guys, that offensively,
there are warning bells about how sustainable this team defense
can win almost every game playing like that yesterday, but
they're not going to get an undrafted rookie quarterback starting
against them when they play the Rams forty nine ers
in playoff teams.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
Yeah, well, I mean, what was it that Flores was doing?
Because I do think you get to this time the
year and it's that you have to adjust to the
adjustments that are made against you. There's enough film that
people understand, Okay, this is not just maybe they're going
to do this. You know for a fact, they're going
to try to go to Jackson Smith and Jigman. You
know they're going to do with those ten fifteen yard
(08:15):
routes and he's going to put up the big numbers,
and so teams start adjusting and you have to readjust
so what was it that the defense was doing, because
I do feel like this wasn't the only game across
the NFL that you saw people come up with game
plans that were stopping what had been successful for some teams.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Well, Bucky, let's start with the fact that the Falcons
this week, the Colts the week after the Rams again,
and the forty nine ers and so on are going
to look at this tape and what the Vikings and
Floryd's did and try to replicate it.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
They're going to copy.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
That's the way that we get nothing new.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
On Smith and Jigby. They had a cornerback covering low.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
They had a safety over the top. They were shading
when they were in single high or even two high coverage,
they were shading the safety over to his side. That's
something every team has done all year. Yet he's still
beating it for on pace to be two thousand yards
until yesterday. What the Vikings did is they did that,
but then they had a pass rush that made Donald
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have to get rid of the ball or lose the
ball before the Smith and Jimmy ran the twelve to
fifteen yard routes. I'm thinking of a third down in
the red zone in the first half where he was
on the left side and in a bunch formation, three
wide receivers to the left, and it was third and
goal at the eleven after an ill fated second down run,
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and Donald waited for Smith Jigby to run a twelve
yard in route. He was one yard inside the goal
line while he was waiting Van Nell or whatever the
hell of the guy's name is on the left edge,
did a spin move and beat VN Kinkle did a
spin movie did he beat the tight end? And he
beat the chipping line running back with a spin move
(09:54):
And that was even a blitz. That was a fake blitz.
So what Flores did? He started the.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Game by blitzing?
Speaker 6 (10:01):
How was he doing that? Well? He was putting his
defensive lineman and dropping him fake pass rushing and then
dropping them and then sending linebackers where usually the defensive.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Lineman will go.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
And the Seahawks Anthony Bradford, notably in a couple of plays,
were tracking the defensive linemen who weren't pass rushing, and
they were standing there watching the guys they thought they
were going to block backpedal, and while they were watching them,
the linebacker was speeding right by him. They never saw him.
That happened in the inside linebackers stack on a third
down in the first quarter. So Flora started blitzing, and
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the Seahawks tried to adjust to that. So then Flora's
counter to that counter was I'll fake the blitz, And
then the Seahawks couldn't one on one pass rush with
spin moves all the while Smith and jigg was running
twelve and fifteen yards down the field. Donald didn't have
time for that, and so Flores's schemes confused the pass
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protection enough that made a twelve yard route next to impossible.
So what started happening in the second half, you started
right away in the third quarter. First of all, they
ran the ball more, and they treated Kenneth Walker like
a lead running back at the start of each half.
But then when they did throw to Smith and jig
With the way he got his first catch six minutes
left in the third quarter was on like a two
yard route, a quick out route, and then his second
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catch was basically an extended handoff a no step Sam
Donald turn and throw the ball to Smith and Jigbad
basically a bubble screen. And so those are the opposite
of ten to fifteen and twenty yard routes that got
him the league's leading receiver in yards. That's the change
that they made, but not until the third quarter, And
so that's why it took so long for Smith and
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Jigby to be part of the game, because what he
had done all season, the Vikings took it away. Having
said all of that, is still got a hold onto
the ball. A quarterback number one job is ball security,
and if he's gonna get blitzed, if he's gonna get pressure,
no matter how the pressure comes, he still has to
hold onto the ball, meaning and take the sack. If
you take the sack, you don't turn them all over
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in your own red zone and so on. And that
has been a problem all season. It's fifteen turnovers now,
ten interceptions and five lost fumbles. That's the second most
turnovers in the league behind tung Oviola the Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah. I don't know if anybody would have guessed JSN
and Justin Jefferson would have combined for four catches and
twenty seven yards in the game without either of them
being injured. They played four full.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
Course deep into the third quarter. They had five combined
targets and no catches.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yeah, yeah crazy. Greg Bell is with us our Seahawks insider.
You can follow mat g bel Seattle and of course
get complete coverage of yesterday's twenty six nothing when they're
at Thenewstribune dot com. Joins us A here this morning
to recap the twenty six nothing victory over the Minnesota Vikings.
Let's hand out some flowers though, to that defensive side
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of the ball. Who do you think Mike McDonald would say,
I had the better game Ernest Jones, DeMarcus Lawrence or
somebody else.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
De Marcus Lawrence and Lawrence while the coach with what
he called his new favorite all time play. He was
pass rushing in the second half. They threw to the
running back behind him. He fell to the ground as
he was passed. Run and got off the ground and
ran toward his own goal line and sprinted from behind
and knocked the ball out from Jones caused to funnel
(13:17):
the title Cotter Recover and that play. He'll show it
five hundred times on film this week with his teammates.
It just he said, it was an incredible, unbelievable play
for a guy to show that effort. He's a twelve
year veteran at thirty two years old. He caused the
interception that Ernest Jones ran back the eighty five year touchdown.
(13:37):
I mean, Brosmer that I don't care what your tenure is,
rookie quarterback or not, you just can't chuck the ball sideways.
It's fourth down, yes, so he's thinking, I can't take
a sack here, but you can't do that, just hand
the ball like a horseshoe toss to the linebacker standing
ten yards in front of you. That changed the game.
The Vikings after that turnover that Darnald gave him were
(14:00):
poised to go in and take a seven to three lead,
and it became ten to nothing instead because of Brozeman
just handing the ball to Jones thanks to Marcus Lawrence
on that play. The Vikings counted on Lawrence either getting
sneaky on the boot leg or not looping outside but
just holding the edge, and they thought that Brozemer could
beat him to the outside instead, McDonald's call was for
(14:22):
him the Marcus Lawrence to loop outside opposite the flow
to play. That was a flow play action to the
left and then I'll roll out to the right. And
it appeared to me that McDonald called for Lawrence to
do that because the natural thing would have been for
Lawrence to flow with the play to his right. He
looped to the left, absolutely opposite of the playfake like
(14:42):
it never happened, and was just in the face of
Rozeman before he even had a chance to do anything.
So credit McDonald for that and Kevin O'Connell after the
game said well, calling it a catastrophically bad play, said that, yeah,
the defensive end looping outside is what ruined that play.
Marcus Lawrence has been a revelation for them eleven years
in Dallas. He has made them whole on the defensive line.
(15:07):
Teams in pass rush pass protection can't just say well,
let's just focus on Leonard Williams, an all Pro type
defensive linemen. They if they devote two guys to block,
including chippers to block Lawrence or excuse me to buck Williams,
then Lawrence is alone basically one on one.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
So they that has.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
Evened out the pass protection plan against Seattle, and the
defensive line is feasting because of Lawrence.
Speaker 7 (15:29):
Ernest Jones was down on the field for just a minute,
got up and got off the field under his own power.
So I don't think it's anything crazy, but he's pretty
important to this defense health wise.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Is he good?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
You think he.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
Said he's fine. The striking thing to me about that
eighty five yard interception returns how fast and fluid he
looked running right because he had a bulky right knee
brace at rams game and he missed two of the
previous three games, missed a little bit of practice time
this past week, then came back to full go at
the end. He said he felt fast and good on
that run. He was sitting up injured there and briefly
(16:00):
went off, but as soon as he went off, he
didn't go into the ten. Even the ten was up,
and he asked for his helmet back and he would
have gone back and had the Vikings gotten a first
down that drive, he missed two plays, including the fourth down,
and that's why he didn't come back in. And then
when it was the next time for defense come on
the field, it was garbage time with the minute left
and twenty six nothing, so the reserves were on and
Jones wasn't there. So he said he's fine. He said
(16:23):
that he found himself basically this past week. Wasn't living
the way he wanted to. Wasn't dealing well with his
father's death. His best friend, his father Guy he spoke
to every Tuesday in the offseasons their in season passed
away in July of ewing sarcoma. He said he wasn't
handling that right. It wasn't living the way he wants
to live. With the cross, he wears around his neck,
(16:44):
and he got down on his knees and prayed this
past week and said that he's changing his life. And
he told his team that after the game in a
very vulnerable moment. McDonald called it one of the best
locker room speeches he'd ever seen. So it was a
much bigger week for Ernest Jones.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
In the game yesterday, Uh well I think that might
be where we needed. How we're gonna uh follow up
on that. So all right, excellent stuff here today. Appreciate it,
mister Bell, Thank you very much, and uh, we'll do
it again next week. Well, actually, we'll talk to you
again tomorrow. What am I talking about? Well, rusty girl,
I've had a.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Few days though.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
I thought I was getting the week off.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Okay, oh you got the week off.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
This is new to me.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
I thought when you set out, we'll do it again
next week.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Oh no, no, no, no, we're gonna do it. As
a matter of fact, we might even call you later
on today like this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, all right, awesome stuff man.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
All right, Greg Bell, our Seahawks insider. If you want
to read up on that Ernest Jones story or any
of his recap stories. You can do so at the
News Tribune dot com, and you can certainly follow Greg
at you Bell Seattle. His segment with us is brought
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(18:00):
prosecco experience on Thanksgiving. And I don't think anyone else
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Speaker 4 (18:09):
Really, that's how it should be.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
Well, yeah, that's nice. You know, you have to dirty
a glass, then you just go straight to the head.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, I mean, I mean there were a lot of
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pasted all of our lips, all right. Coming up next
on the radio program, we will play some factor fiction
this is it. This is the final week, so all
(19:00):
of these picks are crucial. So I haven't made a
pick in over a week. It will be my turn today.
I'll make that at seven thirty five. Also, we'll hear
from Mike McDonald after yesterday's shut out victory at Sports
Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Be Monday to you all, Chuck,
Buck and Ashley together here on this Monday, Happy Thanksgiving up.
(19:21):
You had a great one as we roll into a
brand new week. Did you put the tree up then?
Immediately after the Turkey dinner Friday day? Like immediately that
was like the thing to do as soon as midnight hit?
Speaker 5 (19:35):
No?
Speaker 7 (19:35):
Oh no, we had a we had other stuff to do.
We're actually going and getting the Christmas tree today. Oh wow,
we've already started celebrating Christmas. Lights are up and whatnot,
just haven't got the tree. And we haven't got the
tree yet.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
My house looks like Christmas exploded?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Is that right? When did you do yours on Friday?
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
And then well Friday, and then I did the lights
yesterday morning. Outside, So the outside I was yesterday because
it's nice and dry still, but Friday, because Friday took
almost all day to do inside because you got to,
you know, take out the fall stuff and organize and
storage bins and all that stuff. And then Saturday we
were at the Husky game all day, so then Sunday
was outside.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Got a nice property there, I would imagine you can
make it quite beautiful. Do you go overboard? Do you,
Clark Griswolds?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
We do not, ye though, like I just do, like
I make it look like there's a little river of
water of Christmas lights going down. We're like, we have
some rocks and then we've got some lights in the
courtyard on the bushes and that's it.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
You have a courtyard.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, Bucky, he'll be Bucky, and I'll be there Christmas morning.
I can't wait. Pajamas see you, Ben.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Eh, very exciting, But then you got to be prepared.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Then we go over for Christmas to Mum's house, so
we'll have to have Martini's, Yeah, martini z eggnog, you
know all that fun stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah. I was watching a little bit of uh because
I do watch this every once a while. Food Network,
And have you ever heard of Jeffrey Z. Carrion. He's
ate one of the Iron chefs. Oh, yeah, And he
was asked point blank, what do you think of when
you think about Christmas dining? He goes, Martiniz, never even
realized that was a thing.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Yeah, it is now it is official.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
All right, factor fiction coming up at seven thirty five.
But Mike McDonald, you have heard his comments just there
coming out of the break. Obviously, you gotta feel good
when you're a head coach to win a football game, period,
much less to win one by twenty six points in
the National Football League. But when you're a defensive minded
head coach and you shut out an opponent, I don't
(21:33):
care if they're starting their eleventh string quarterback. I don't
care if they're starting, you know, a backup safety because
they don't have another choice at quarterback.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Man.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Do NFL defensive head coaches love posting zerosts?
Speaker 7 (21:49):
Yeah, I can understand why. I mean, it's got to
feel good when you end up winning a game as
lopsided as that was, and yet you didn't really play
well at all on one side of the ball. And
so I mean, that's what a defensive minded coach I
would imagine their blueprint.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
What they would love is to have.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
A potent offense and a dominant defense, you know, just
do that every single week. And yet that's really not
the nature of the beast. You're not going to have
all pro players all over the place. He's got the
defense ripping right now and playing playing well that they're
all kind of coming together and understanding the concepts that
we've heard are complicated and difficult to figure out. And
(22:29):
yet now you've had guys that have been here for
you know, nearing twenty games and or over twenty games,
and they've got to figure out how to how he
wants them to do it, and the complex nature in
which it's supposed to be done, and everybody's supposed to
be where they're supposed to be. It's it's rolling right now.
I mean, there's no doubt that they're kind of clicking
(22:49):
on all soonders on that side of the ball, and
so it makes up for lacking other things, whether it
be kind of coughing the ball up more than you
would like or turning the ball over more than you'd like.
But if you're not even doing to bend, let alone
a bend but don't break situation, you're going to be
in every single game to play well.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Only on in twenty eight passing yards. Yesterday, Sam Donald
barely completed over fifty percent of his passes. That was
the worst pass protection sam Donold has had as a
Sea Hawks. So even though the defense shined, were there
any concerns on the offensive side of the ball from
the head coaches.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
Perspective, No, it's the same thing every week. It's look
that there's there's things that that Minnesota did that was
really good, and there's some things that we capitalize on
which is good for us, and we got to we
got to understand those things so we can make sure
they're not issues moving forward. But that's the same thing
every week.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
It's every phase.
Speaker 8 (23:42):
You know, everybody at this time of year, you know,
it's hard to come up with the new ideas. So
there's a lot of you know, teams being inspired by
things that happened from prior weeks.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
It happens in all three phases.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Happens every week.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
So same process.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
It's so true. I mean, it's whack a mole, like,
all right, we got I know that the moles not
coming out of this hole. Got this one covered. Oh
it's came over there. And that's the life in the
National Football League. The hot and cold nature, especially this season,
of all the teams in the National Football League. Yes,
it has been insane. I think the Seahawks have been
(24:16):
one of the most consistently operated teams this year, along
with the Los Angeles Rams. But yeah, the offense didn't
play a great game yesterday, didn't matter. The defense was
that special. We'll talk more about it with Hugh starting
at eight o'clock. Right now, Let's play some factor fiction.
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So I didn't get the I wasn't here last week,
so I didn't get the results from the previous way,
and then you guys took care of things while I
was away. I didn't realize how much we were up. Yeah,
and I'd only say that factually. I don't say that
to say, like, let's celebrate because we got we got
(25:16):
stuff to do, we got to finish this thing out. Yeah,
we very easily go zero to five in the last
week of Factor Fiction, and a couple of these turns
on these other shows here at kJ R could get hot.
That's true, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, well, yeah
they're not good, but yeah, yeah we could. They could
that they could. So we got to be on our game.
We gotta be on an a game. We got to
finish this thing off because we got a chance to
(25:37):
go back to back. And yes, we know that's not
the most important thing. The most important thing is you,
the listener, So we try to emphasize that every single day.
But we got a little bit of team rooting interest
in this as well. Yeah, and an here we are.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
If we're doing well, then we're you know, maybe making
it easier for you to trust our picks and just
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here we go. All right, it's my pick, haven't made
one in a little while. And I am not going
to take the Monday night game. There's too much at stake.
I'm gonna go with what I like the most here
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on the start of this week. And to me, I'm
going college football. Look, I get it. The Alabama Crimson
tie of beating the Georgia Bulldogs three straight times, and
I get it. Kirbie Smart still has not defeated Kaylin
de Boor head to head since he showed up in Alaibi.
(27:01):
You can look at that as a trend, or you
could look at it as, oh my gosh, there is
no way Kirby Smart's gonna let his Georgia Bulldogs lose
in Atlanta to Alabama again by three points. There's just
no way. And so I'm taking the Georgia Bulldogs to
(27:22):
win over Alabama in the SEC Championship game in Atlanta.
And I'm gonna go and lay the two and a
half points because I think they're gonna win by ten.
All right, I'm taking Georgia minus two and a half.
It's a neutral field, yep, but it's in Atlanta, which
is in.
Speaker 9 (27:41):
Georgia neutral quote unquote, So give me the Georgia Bulldogs
minus the two and a half against Alabama to win
the SEC title this year.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
I think Kirby Smart's more determined in his entire life
to win a football game. It's this one on Saturday.
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(29:06):
right here on KJAR. Coming up next, we'll have a
little bit of time. We'll talk more about it tomorrow,
but a little bit of time we have to talk
about this Lane Kiffin situation right here on Chuck and
Bucks Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Here me
little join us at eight o'clock. Mike Ho I'm ran
at nine o'clock, So two hours of Sea Hawk talk
(29:27):
after a twenty six nothing shutout went over the Minnesota
Vikings yesterday to improve the team to nine and three.
If I know Hugh Millan, and I think we all
know Hugh Millan, he probably wants to talk a little
college football. But we'll see, we'll see, we'll see how
the two hours go. This will be our only opportunity
to talk about Lane Kiffin today. It's such a big topic.
There are so many layers to it. We will certainly
(29:48):
spend more time on it tomorrow. I'm sure that you
two have your thoughts, and I'm trying to figure out, like, Okay,
we've got just this one segment. What do I want
to isolate? And I think what's most important to relay
this morning is what it appears to me has happened.
And that was that Lane Kiffin's known for a long
time he was going to LSU. The moment that they
(30:11):
showed how interested they were, he just, you know, he
was gone. The bags were packed, but he still wanted
to coach his team out and see if they can
make the SEC Championship game, and so on and so forth.
And then as the clock came down, he kept acting
acting like how difficult a decision it was. And I'm
(30:31):
going to meet with these people on this day, and
meet with those people on that day, and I consult
with my mentors and everything else throughout the course of
the week and what I've gathered or what it feels like.
And I'm reading between the tea leaves here. I don't
know for a fact is. It sounds like it was,
I'm leaving for LSU, will you let me coach my
(30:53):
team the rest of the way? Will you let me
coach when I'm the head coach of your most hated
rival basically, or one of them? Will you let me
coach the rest of the season. That's what the negotiation
was Saturday, the cloak and Dagger negotiation. And then apparently
(31:13):
he played hardball and said, if you don't let me
do it, I'm taking all of my coaches with me,
and so the players who've acted like I've cared about
this entire time, I'm going to strip them of any
chance of winning in the tournament because I'm going to
try to take all of my coaches as a leverage
play for you to let me coach in the tournament
(31:34):
before I go to LSU while I'm recruiting for LSU.
This was what he was trying to negotiate at the end,
and then he didn't get his way. Apparently he went
to his coaches and said, if you don't come with
me right now, you're not going to be on my staff.
And a couple of them went, and most of them stayed,
(31:55):
and so that's how the lane Kevin Era ends in
Ole Miss and I understand a hundred third percent why
Rebels fans hate his guts right now.
Speaker 7 (32:04):
Yeah, I just don't understand how it works the way
that it works. I mean, I'm not going to fall
team Bay for taking a job that they think is better, right,
And LSU if he thinks, you know right now you're
going to go to a team and try to build
them up to a college playoff team, and you're leaving
a team that's going to be in the college football playoffs,
(32:24):
I don't fully understand. My whole thing is if you're
so sought after, if LSU wants you so bad, and.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I don't know why they do, Frank, how do you.
Speaker 7 (32:32):
Not how do you not tell them I can't leave
this team before I've seen it to the end. And
if you can't handle that, then I can't take the job.
How can you not have that integrity? I would think
as an employer, as the future employer.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
LSU, you would like that.
Speaker 7 (32:52):
Yeah, you would be like, you know what, I'm glad
you're standing on that. That's good. That shows me something
versus the pettiness of there must have been somewhere I
would have to think that he wanted to see this
thing through, and yet he wanted his.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Cake and he wanted to eat it too. Yeah, I
want the job, but you should give me the chance
to see if I can win a national championship with
the team that I'm abandoning.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
Yeah, and yet yeah, I mean I guess to some
degree it's like, well, we don't want you to win
a NAST championship, so now it's I don't have I mean,
obviously there's one duck that I have a rooting interest for,
and other than that it's old Miss. I will be
cheering hard for old Miss to win it, and then
him to go tell's you and never win it, just
because the integrity that you, the lack thereof, is just
(33:39):
I just can't.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
It's just gross to me.
Speaker 7 (33:41):
I mean, yet you should be able to stand on
it and say, I am the most sought after coach
right now in this coaching cycle apparently, and so if
you want me, you have to let me do what's
right by this. The kids, the guys that I'm coaching.
I can't lead them to this place and then bolt
on him and yank all the coaches out underneath him.
(34:03):
It's it's pitiful. To be honest, it's it's gross and
you're you are. I think he got really mad when
somebody called him a hoe. Well m sorry, bud. Yeah,
knack like one, walk like one, talk like one.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
You might be one.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Yeah, he's a petulant brat.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
And he tried to show everybody that he'd changed and
that he was different, and maybe for a brief amount
of time he had changed and he was different. And
then when he wasn't going to get his way and
do exactly how he wanted to do it, dictate exactly
how he was going to abandon one program and go
to another program, then he threw a fit and basically
(34:41):
took all his toys and went home and was like, okay,
well then if that's the case, then I'm going to
screw you guys over And I don't care yep, exactly.
It's not about the players at all. Also, I don't
think it is a better job.
Speaker 9 (34:56):
He just got offered a lot more money his historically is.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
But I'll say this to your point, I mean, it
doesn't have to be going forward. It's all about nil
and whichever whichever alums want to fork out the most money.
And you might have a situation where there's gonna be
more of it at Ole Miss than LSU. Probably not,
but that's what Nick Saban said on Saturday. He's gonna
(35:21):
go to the place that he feels where he can
get the best players, and that probably is LSU. But
there is a way that you can handle it. And
of course Lane kiffen mishandled it entirely, and then for
those that are we'll let him coach it out. What's
it gonna hurt? Are you kidding me? I mean, can
you imagine like going to your spouse and saying, Hey,
(35:43):
I'm leaving you, and I'm gonna leave you for the
person you hate the most. And in the meantime, because
I can't do it right away, I'm gonna need you
to be a buddy and just act like everything's fine
and is dinner just about ready?
Speaker 6 (35:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Yeah, because I'm just gonna stay here for a while.
Yeah that's okay. Yeah, And I'm gonna live in the house.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
I'm gonna live in the house and and just know
that soon I will be making sweet love to the
person that you hate. Yeah. But uh, and for the
rest of my life probably. But in the meantime, could
you be a buddy in cleanup.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
And also I have some laundry that's got to get done.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
No way do you let him go. He's recruiting for
LSU right now, and you're gonna let him coach? Oh mess,
of course you can't.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
And then all those players keep loving him and then
they all leave.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Yeah, so we'll have more time talk about tomorrow. And
I don't ever want to hear anybody bag at player
again when when coaches act this way, I mean, Christian
McCaffrey didn't want to play in a meaningless Bowl game
to protect himself for the NFL draft, ever, giving himself
to Stanford for four years and like carrying the ball
(36:57):
thirty times a game. And here's Lane Kiffin on the
verge of the postseason tournament, not thinking that's important enough
to stay for just out of just selfish, selfish interest
financially to get to a better place. All right, we'll
talk more about it tomorrow. Hugh Millin's next Sports Radio
(37:17):
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