December 1, 2025 • 40 mins
MMQB with HUGH MILLEN starts now! We start with some praise for the Seahawks defense after that shutout victory. The rookie vs that Defense! Thank goodness for the addition of DeMarcus Lawrence and Ernest Jones. :30- We are back with Hugh for MMQB and it’s time to take a look at the offensive concerns. What broke down and what did the Vikings do well? :45- We have one more segment with Hugh and we need to talk a little bit about UW/Oregon and Lane Kiffin leaving Ole Miss.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:50):
Here's Chuck and Buck. Oh good Monday morning to you.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Mike home'renna will be joining us at nine o'clock and
until ten o'clock. You Millin's with us from eight tilt
T and so joining us now on the program to
get things started here on this Monday, after a twenty
six nothing Seahawks win of the Vikings on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Is our QB.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
One, a man that ate his weight in yams with
marshmallows on top of them. Since last we spoke to him.
Hugh Mellen now joins us here on Chuck and Buck.
Good morning, sir, Good morning, rolled out of bed today. Yeah,
there are plenty of Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I would say, yes, was it good? Feast was mighty?
Was it great?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Good?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yes, right, yes, all right, indeed, yeah, how about you?
Everything's good, everything is good. And so here we go. Football,
family feasting. That's what this time of the year is
all about. And certainly we got plenty of football to
discuss this morning, including a Seahawks shutout win over the
Minnesota Vikings. And so where does the conversation on this
(01:52):
game start with you? I gotta believe on the defensive
side of the ball, man, When you post a shutout
in the National Football League, that's a hell of an accomplishment.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
What quarterback you're facing? Indeed, and I felt sorry for
that quarterback. Yeah, I mean that he was put in
a tough situation. He was actually playing okay in the
first quarter, and then you know, the interception just kept
mounting and it was too much. But I think for Seattle,
you know, if you win a game twenty four to
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nothing against a team that was fourteen and three last year,
if there's any room for complaints, you're living fat. It
would be my you know, because because it's hard to
grouse about a game like that.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I understand there's some there's some issues. We'll get to
him on the.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Offense that they've got a tidy up and sooner rather
than later. But I think the thrust of is just
the defense, how how they're playing, how they're playing together.
They've kind of sorted things out with Nick im and
Worry has clearly changed. I mean, prior to Week ten,
Seahawks and dime defense where you can have Emon Worry
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and and Devin Witherspoon in this in the slot defensively,
they had averaged four per week with a max of eight.
Since that time, they're averaging nineteen plays of dime. And
that's getting Rek Wolling in. We should talk about him
as well, and so I think that they Mike McDonald
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has a vision of his personnel. He has a vision
of what he wants to do schematically, and you know
it's working. Yeah, worked yesterday, but you know it worked
against Matthew Stafford as well.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
So, I mean they're they're they're pretty dialed in, and
at this point you could say they're they're playing in
a dominant fashion.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Huge.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
I mean, obviously the kind of the I guess the
stat of the game is the four picks. But I mean,
you're right, it did seem to turn right at that
pick six first and foremot and fourth down. You figure, Okay,
I can see why they're wanting to go for it,
and yet he just kind of throws that up. There's
just I mean, an unrelenting defense or is that a
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rookie mistake or probably a combo of both.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Well, I think, you know, for me, you know, breaking
this down, seeing how this could happen, I think that
the SS just absolutely out coached Kevin O'Connell on that play.
And so it's fourth and one on the four yard line.
My notes say, I'm king right, King right, is base
personnel by the Vikings with the full back offset to
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the strong side to the tight end, and Queen would
he be on the other side. Mike would call it
green eye strong. But in any event, whatever you call it,
what you're gonna do is you're gonna have or you're
trying to get a right handed quarterback rolling out. But
the flow action that you're doing, you're having the full
back go away from the sprint out, but you're having
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the tailback immediately go to as opposed to a naked
which you see most when when you want to get
the quarterback on the perimeter. As opposed to the naked play,
the half back he just goes straight to the flat.
You're trying to get from a Minnesota standpoint, you want
man to man. You're thinking fourth and one, it's going
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to be man to man. You're and by having the
linebacker Ernest Jones aligned over the full back, you say what,
but the fullback goes to the opposite side. It often
creates a little bit of a uh, miscommunication among the
middle linebackers who they're gonna block. And then you're having
what's called the reduction by both the tight end and
the receivers. They reduce, which means go into the ball.
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They create a pick on Manda Man and then Addison
the flanker. He runs to the corner route. As they said,
the tailback is in the flat, the quarterback comes out.
You want to hit the tailback in the flat right away,
but Seattle they zone it off and so there's no
immediate play to the flat. You see Rieke Woollen and
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Emon Worry react to the to the flat immediately. And
then DeMarcus Lawrence, he had been what's called the six
eye technique, the inside shade of the tight end, and
he when the tight end reduces, he just comes straight
up the field. And you don't get the same influence
when the running back is to the side of the
rollout as opposed to a way. You don't get that
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that reduction, that downward action by DeMarcus Lawrence. He's just
straight up the field. He's in Brosmer's face. And and
then the kid just makes a really poor decision trying
to you know, I guess he would say, well, it's
fourth down, I don't want to take a sack, you know,
at least give myself a little bit of a chance.
But obviously very misguided. And there's your play of the game.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, play of the game, Ernest Jones takes it all
the way to the house. But you mentioned that DeMarcus
Lawrence kind of caused the disruption. I know, we got
three other interceptions to discuss, but the fumble play was
Mike McDonald's favorite play where Brosmer on third and fourteen
tries to check down to Aaron Jones does so successfully,
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and then the next thing that I saw was Aaron
Jones get eaten alive on live television by DeMarcus Lawrence
trailing the play. I mean it was gruesome. I mean
Lawrence stood up and Jones feet were sticking out of
his mouth. That's how gruesome that that hit was fumble
and another drive ruined by DeMarcus Lawrence and the Seahawks.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
De Yeah, isn't this the fiftieth anniversary of Jaws? You know,
I think I think something like that was taking place.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I think it would it helped, It would help Jones
if the music would have accompanied the play, then he
might have known.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
I did that but too fast. But I'd tell you schematically.
I think why a defensive coach would like that. First
of all, DeMarcus Lawrence, he he chips the running back.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
He's it's kind of the way.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
The Patriots played the greatest show on her from the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Every time Marshall Fawk was gonna go out the defensive
end instead of you rushing the quarterback, it's more important
for you to just jam the halfback before he gets
into his route. And so it was reminiscent of that
and many other times, and that the schemes have been.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Worked like that.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
But that's the that's the trade off, right, We're gonna
we're gonna diminish our pass rushing aspect from Lawrence in
order to UH to UH to give a hard contact
to the running back who's trying to run his route,
and so he's taken out of the pass rush. He's
way behind the play, and it's just a hustle play.
And I think that that. I mean, you'd expect most
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guys until the whistle to blow to hustle, but I
think that there was kind of top shelf hustle in
that regard, particularly from an older player, and so I
think that I think he wants to go overboard to
commend that hustle so that the rest of the team
hears how enthusiastic he is about that. I mean, I thought,
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I thought, yes, I was impressed with a hustle. You know,
I wasn't going over the top. It was a great play,
but you'd expect a guy he's on your side of
the field. It's not like he's on the you know,
on the opposite numbers. He's on your side of the field.
He should chase the ball. So yes, i'll give him credit.
I think Mike McDonald's taking a little bit overboard for
the reasons I mentioned. But yeah, it was a great play.
And you know the art of producing a fumble and
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you know, punching the ball out, you practice it. Not
everybody is intuitive with it, and he made it very
intuitive play to get the fumble.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Well, I mean not long after that, that's when I
mean the floodgates had opened at that point. I mean
they were kind of pulling away, and yet you felt like, oh,
there was that emon worry penalty where he's just tackling
a guy. But I guess that the suplexus is a
little bit unnecessary, and so they give them the unnecessary roughness.
You're like, oh, well maybe this would if that turns
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into seven points, maybe you have yourself a ball game.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
But the very next play, I mean, to me, it's like,
I get why that's a penalty. I'm not against that,
but to me, there's a reciprocity on they did that
to Sam Darnold early in the game. Yes, they rode
him fifteen yards back and dumped dumped him with on
his weight on a quarterback. I thought that those were
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equally as deserving or non deserving of.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
A late call, so of it.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
I think Seattle kind of got the short end though,
on that exchange, because there's got called and the Vikings didn't.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
But go ahead, I'm with you.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
I mean, I think for officials, yeah, I just I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
How are gonna give him a chance. They're gonna they're
gonna kuck up the game.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
I don't understand how you're really throwing a flag. I
mean that have we ever seen him it get hurt
by it's because it looks bad, like I stopped you
in the backfield.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
They didn't come off the turnbuckle though. Yeah, well that's party.
Yeah you can close line, but yeah I pulled chair.
Yeah that's that's I get it.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
I mean, he's one step away from like a kindo
stick or something bashing him across it and yelling into
a microphone.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
But I'm oily, I don't think that should be.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
And yet even Worry hopefully learns from it, because you
don't want that to happen in an important game, an
important situation, even though he's doing is tackling the guy
finishing the play.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
But that basically it didn't.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
It was all for not because the very next play,
Kobe Bryant picks off Max Browsner.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Again.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Yeah, well, you incited me to editorialize for one second.
To me, you're you're you're using these pro wrestling terms.
To me, pro wrestling has more in common with opera
than it does with sports. And I'm not even kidding.
I'm being dead serious in all the ways that are
meaningful and so uh but I digress. Look the the
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the next interception was two deep and four under, and
by the way, I was not noteworthy that the Vikings
were trying to get a completion to Jay Naylor. Uh,
Jalen Naylor. So Naylor, what are you doing there? You
know he's going over the millfield. I don't know why
he stopped, but I give credit to Ernest Jones. It's
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a two deep four under zone. When you have a
two deep standard just to have five under and yet
seatle it's rushing five, so those there's more of a
burden on those four underneath to pattern read and try
and get underneath routes because you're you're missing one less
guy in coverage. And so this was another good play
by Ernest Jones and he gets underneath it. As I said,
(12:30):
I understand why the quarterback thought that Naylor was going
to stay on the move and keep moving down the
pipe between those two safeties.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
He did, and see how it gets an interception.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Then Ernest gets his a second to pick of the game.
A little bit later on in the contest, he was
just racking up the statuet at this point.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah, well this was really cool. So the vikings are
in the trip's right. So the X receiver is the
solo receiver away from the trips that is justin Jefferson
aligned to the quarterbacks left. And what you you had
from Seattle. The if I go and I say, what
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is the best play by a corner that I've seen
this season by any team? And I don't just study
the Seahawks and their opponents. I study other teams in
college and all the best transition I have seen on
an interception this year was in the ram game when
unfortunately Kobe Durant the way he transitioned, he started, he
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started to pull out of his back pidal he turned
in a half turn and then he was able to
do a one eighty and pickoff Sam Darnold. That's the
best transition I've seen. But the second best I've seen
is on this interception when you have Josh Job in
off coverage, outside leverage outside shoulder because of the alignment,
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balls on on the near hash and it's a relatively
tight split, and so you've got Josh Job on an
outside off corner with no safety help other than deep
in the hole. So he's got help on a deep post.
That's it on man a man and there's no inside
help on with the hook zone defender because it's not zone.
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And the way Josh Job just planted his foot and
drove on that inbreaking route against Justin Jefferson on a
speed cut and his accelerated the technique and the acceleration
that was extremely impressive. He broke that play up and
uh and uh. And you had Ernest Jones, he was
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what's called the low hole player in man a man
and you know he was able to clean up the
mess after ball popped up in the air. But the
play was made by Josh Job on an off coverage
outside leverage on an inbreaking route justin Jefferson thought to
be the best receiver in the world. A lot of
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things working against Josh job and he was clinic textbook
teaching tape drive on an inbreaking up, got his hand
it popped it up, and ern Stones against the interception.
So so all the credit in my mind, and I'm
sure in Mike McDonald's mind goes to Josh Jobant.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Well, the final kind of cut when it comes to
your hey, welcome to the NFL. Moment for Max Brosner,
I suppose is when Reek wants to get in on
the mix too right, and then he ends up fumbling
it himself. So it's like, I'll give it back, but
it is.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
It is what it is.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
How impressed were you with that play and then unimpressed
with the end of it?
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Well, I'm more impressed with the interception. If you remember
really the best play that Brosmer had, Do you remember
when he hits TJ. Howkinson on the steam route for
twenty nine yards?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
That was against a cover three, where Brosmer two is
a cover three is three deep and it's four verticals.
But the outside guys are gonna do what called fallout
comebacks and so on that play, the ball had been
on the right hash and and Hawkinson goes down to
the quarterbacks right the defensive least up to scene twenty
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nine yards. He got inside leverage on Emon Worry and
it was a nice play by the Vikings. Now you
come back to that play. Now we're going to the
interception by by Willan. So exactly what he had seen,
same same far hash and Addison in the in the
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slot number one is that is that's Naylor Naylor outside
running the apple. So he had already seen that play
because they had they had given up the only real
chunk play of the game. They had already watched it
on the video. Okay, got me.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
So Wolan had already seen that play.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
It's like now he hadn't been coached up because the
completion wasn't to his side, but he had seen it.
So now when he sees Addison going down the slot,
same same route they he knows that they've already been beat.
He has the outside comeback to the sideline, the slot
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receiver he comes off of him. And now this is
where where every bit matters in the play before, where
Hawkinson had had the twenty nine yarder. Addison on the
slot to the offenses left the defensive right to Wooln's side.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
He had gotten.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Widened out, and he had, and he would run up
the inside of the numbers. Now Emon worry on the
second time widens Addison out just a little bit further,
a yard further, and now Addison is going down the
middle of the numbers instead of the inside of the numbers,
so he's a little closer to Woolan. And Woolan he
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comes off of his man and the explode. The explosion
to come off of his man and to jump that
steam route seam routes. He want eighteen to twenty two yards.
It would have been completed about twenty one and a half.
So as it's the outer edge for a quarterback, you say,
wait a minute. Anything beyond twenty two the back layery
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either the free safety the corner can fall off. But
that should have been within the window that you can get.
But Willan made a great play. And I will say this,
we watched that tape. He looks healthy. I mean he
exploded to the ball. And I want to go back
to the pick six with Ernest Jones to talk about
Wolan I had already described how Wollan had played the
zone and had responded to the half back in the flat.
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It wasn't a terribly easy read. Seattle was in zone.
So I'm not praising him on the read. But when
the NFL has that going back again Ernest Jones, the
pick six, they have that at eighty five yards they
counted at he catches at the fifteen yard line, at
the twenty five yard line where Ernest Jones is getting
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up the full speed, I stopped the tape on the
coach's tape. Ernest Jones was on the twenty five yard line.
Reek Woollan was on the thirteen twelve yards behind Ernest Jones,
and Riek Woollan.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Starts with what we know, the freak that he is.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
He starts sprinting and it's like some kind of secretary
and like like coming from the back, like he is
running by everybody.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
He's running by Vikings, he's running.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
By and and he catches up to to Ernest Jones.
You know, well before you know a little bit before
Ernest Jones crosses, he caught up in twelve yards made
twelve yards again. So this is a guy. What does
that tell me? Ay, you just watching him sprint is
just a beautiful something beautiful watching just how that guy
can cover ground. He's healthy, h I think he's in.
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That tells me he is into what is happening on
this team, because you know what, I I watch the tape.
Jordan Addison and uh and Justin Jefferson, once they saw
the pick, they just they just stopped. They just watched.
They walked and watched, and here Riek Wollen is gonna
sprint twelve yards from behind the play. He didn't need
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to do that, so so let's let's uh, I think that. Look,
he may not be a Sea Hawk, but there are
gonna be teams that watch this tape and they're going,
oh my god, this thoroughbrid, this six' four. Gazelle you,
know his ceiling is so. High so, anyways he's playing
at a high. LEVEL i think he's engaged with what
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The seahawks are. Doing I'M i JUST i had to
throw that out because that was truly, impressive both both
in terms of the will and just the the god
given ability to run like, THAT i, mean just running
like the. Wind so nice play by. HIM i didn't
like the, Fumble none of us. Did mike McDonald won't.
Either you, know it's a good lesson to learn in
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a blowout game that next time he'll he'll consider the
circumstances and it's okay to just give yourself up and
not go through that.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Fumble, yeah it was like when you play The Super
mario and he swallows the star and he's like blinking
and he's so much faster than anybody else in the.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Game that's what it.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Looks that's What woolan looked like exactly on that interception.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Return he just like looked like he was on a different. Level,
again he can cover some.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
GROUND i, Mean i'll tell you, what IF i was
playing against, Him i'd want to know where he is
because because that lunatic can freaking cover.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Ground so, yeah it didn't help on.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Him, yeah The vikings had mushroom cap helmets, yesterday or
MAYBE i just imagined.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
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Speaker 2 (21:58):
Rfm he, rolls.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
He's, pressured he's in, trouble he's it.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Up Erness jones, post.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Well take it all the, way.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
The game change in, Play Turvernus jones eighty four yards
and no. Flags Joe Davis Fox sports there on the
call of the pick six part of The seahawks defensive excellence,
yesterday twenty six nothing they went over The Minnesota, ikings
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and so it was a bit of a.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Laugher.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Certainly mike McDonald looked very pleased afterwards with his shutout
victory as a defensive minded head. Coach but there are
some things to discuss on the offensive side of the
ball that seemed a little. Concerning we got the right
guy to discuss. Them Hugh millan is with. Us It's
monday morning quarterback session with OUR qb one And. HUGH
i don't think there's any. DEBATE i thought that was
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the worst pass protection seen thus far this season For Sam.
Darnold there were times where he didn't stand a. Chance
what broke? Down and is it concerning going? Forward, well
a lot broke. Down there are some concerns going. FORWARD
i think they certainly have to fix the problems that they.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
HAD i felt like.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Going into the. Game first of, all you just know
how The vikings are. Defensively they are going into the
game number one in THE nfl forty four and a
half percent of the use of three to. Four that's
obviously seven seven man. Front but when you only have
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three defensive linemen and you have four, linebackers even on
the basic, stuff there's a little bit of extra thinking
for the offense because they have generally two outside linebackers
on either side two inside. Linebackers but any of those
four linebackers can, rush but it's not really a. Blitz
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it's a four man rush and you can. Play the
standard standard defense is seven man uh in coverage four
man rushing, Right so anything more than four is considered a.
Blitz but what the The vikings do is they uh
again number one in the use of three to. Four
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they are dead last in the use of. Nickel so
they want big people and they want want to put
everybody up on the line of scrimmage so that they
are a. Threat any of them are a threat to
pass rush and all of them can rush past rush
decently and they have enough again because they're not a,
nickel they're they're linebackers or, defense and there's only three defensive.
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Linemen they can get all these guys up to the
line of. Scrimmage they can they can Get, harrison that
that veteran safety that might be A hall Of. Famer
uh he's got great instincts as a pass. Rusher so
they have a an entire bevy of different pass. Rushes
they can show you by having everybody mugged up on
the line and you have to communicate who's. Coming and
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The vikings comeing into the game were number one in
THE nfl in terms of percent of snaps with pressure
and u uh creating pressure and and uh, so so
what you saw was just every make of of zone
blitz where they. Had there was times where they you're
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looking you, say wait a, minute that's a three under
or excuse, me three deep and two under. Zone that
is that is crazy from a coverage. Standpoint to even
talk about, that you're just assuming that somebody there's gonna
be a havoc and havoc early and so that was
a big part of. It they would do two deep four.
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Unders they were they they are playing what's called a
palms uh palms technique where the cornerback is is waiting
on the corner in the, safety they read the widest
receiver in the. Slot if they both go, vertical they
both get vertical. Vertical but if anybody's in the hat
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in the in the in the, flat then the corner
triggers on the flat and the safety is over the
top on the outside. Receiver And seattle's propensity to run
squeeze formations when you have a lot of receivers that
are close to the, ball that allows that coverage to
be played with greater. Regularity you can bring guys off the.
Edge and So seattle did a very poor job of
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COMMUNICATING i mean.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Third the first the first.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Blitz for, example third and, eleven there's four to To
Sam donald's left and there's four to the. Right So,
seattle they send the center to the. Left they got
a linebacker coming in the a gap and and you
saw That. Sharbonne he did a poor job of. Blocking
(26:57):
and he just never seems to get his hips. Right,
uh he takes guys on with the wrong. Show he
will never ever block with his left shoulder even when
he should he only will block with his right. Shoulder
so he was getting blown up all. Day and then
you got a linebacker in THE b gap who starts
At Anthony, bradford your worst, lineman but then he pops
(27:19):
out that Holds bradford for just a. Second there's no
way that he's gonna get To harrison the safety coming
into his. Outside and And Abe Lukes lucas gets. Smoked
so and And Sam darnold has three guys that he's
fighting for his. Life uh uh and and they all
came from the right. SIDE i JUST i just outlined.
(27:41):
One we could be here for an hour and a
half AND i could break down the. Situations but you're, Asking,
okay what what is the summary of? It the summary
of it is that they play a lot of uh
variety of zones behind their, pressures zones that make no.
Sense if you drop on a, whiteboard you'd, say, well
(28:02):
we're gonna have guys running all Over Scott. Free but
they they create such a problem with your. Communication they
are they are counting On brian floy is the the defensive.
Coordinator they are counting on that that miscommunication on the
one uh that the sack fumble down in the uh
In seattle's on end of the. Territory territory they, have you,
(28:24):
know everybody. Overload you got a tight, end a rocky
tight end in. Here he blocks. Down shouldn't have blocked
down the. Tackle and in that case he had enough
guys to uh uh Abe lucas had his. Man there's
no reason for the rooky tackle the uh uh to block,
down but he. Does and so now you Got Dallas
clark if you remember him from the, draft you, know
(28:46):
a great athlete come and just you, know shot a
bat out of hell and he and he blows right
into Sam. Donold so so it's the communication, piece uh
the you. Know and then they're doing funky things like
they played Very Little man A, man but they Had
harrison the. Safety he's he's running out At Jackson smith
(29:07):
And jigba and by the by the, way they Had
Byron murphy covering J s N, on shadowing him a
lots on press man and Man harrison is screaming out
on the. Inside well that you never see that on
bump and. Run so that that, there there's there's stuff
that are very unorthodox with what they, do almost think
(29:28):
that as a. Bust and Then i'll, finally AS i
mentioned j s N. Uh you, know there hasn't been
many opportunities to criticize. Him he hasn't deserved. It But
i'll tell you on on one play The vikings were.
Playing you know in basketball that box and one everybody's playing,
zone but you, play you take the best player and
you play man and man with. Him, well they had
(29:48):
to play where you could say it's like. That they're
they're playing what's called the cover six or cover two to,
one side four to the. OTHER i, mean it's very
clear what they were. Playing but they Had Byron murphy
just SHADOWING jsn wherever he, went And jaysn ran a
twelve yard. Hook he started the forty six yard, line
went to the thirty four yard. Line he started turning
(30:09):
his eyes back at the forty yard, line six yards
before he was going to. Break he turns his hips
at the thirty. Seven he still goes up the field
to the thirty. Four that would BE i would give
him a. Minus i'd give him a double minus if it.
Mattered on the pass, right it's a terrible, route and
and you know he's just gloved up and Then darnold
(30:32):
put it in a catchable place and he didn't get.
It maybe at this juncture he was kind of his
mind was distracted or he wasn't into. It but that's
a very sloppy. Route so so we, don't you, know
there's blame to go around for. Everybody, yeah offensively and
AND i think it was like a fighter just being
against the ropes man there they were taking it To.
(30:54):
Seattle seattle was on their heels on the ropes in
a lot of different, ways and all the numbers Were.
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three point THREE.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Kjrfm, yeah it's.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
FUNNY i mean like we just were not worried about all.
That we're just we're just worried about playing playing our solid,
ball playing for each, other taking sure we do it every,
day and and then doing it On. Sunday you, know
it's like we're Not we're really not out to like
impress anybody or prove anybody, Wrong like we really don't.
(31:46):
Care it's just trying to prove ourselves, right you, know
and our guys are dedicated to do. That it's a great.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Group bike McDonald's talking about his.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Defense oh, yeah my.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Defense i'm a depends on my.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Head Oh i'm a.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Genius shut out zero, points it, says it just keeps
on getting. Better we'll talk more about The seahawks twenty.
Six nothing'll win over The vikings yesterday with Coach holmgren
and With hugh coming up starting at nine. O'clock but
it's a really fascinating college football weekend as, well including
(32:21):
THE u Double oregon rivalry that went down here In
seattle On. Saturday SO i do want to get your
thoughts on, That hugh before we get back To seahawks
with coach at nine. O'clock twenty six to. Fourteen the final,
SCORE i don't think it was that lopsided of a.
Game it felt very competitive to, me and that felt
like there were opportunities FOR u dub to actually pull the.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
UPSET i don't know what you, Thought yeah they.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
DID i think that there was a lot of concern
in among The husky faithful about a new defensive. Coordinator
belichick moved on with his father and the defense of if,
anything has been certainly better this, year and SO i
think the defense did the. JOB i think that there's
(33:04):
a certain irony that the jetfish anybody who's coached with.
HIM i, mean he hasn't made it a, Secret he's
disclosed it. Publicly he would have wanted The florida, job
and Had washington won two more, games Say wisconsin and
(33:26):
and you, know let's Say Ohio, state that wasn't going
to be achievable in all, likelihood But michigan Or oregon
those were winnable games with a good game by the.
QUARTERBACK i think it's just interesting the most anointed young
Quarterback i've never seen A washington quarterback just kind of
handed the job and discussed that. Way you, say, well
(33:46):
times are, NEW i got. IT i just STILL i
can't Believe Don james would ever talk about a freshman
quarterback like he's the, guy like he didn't even have
to compete in. Spring and again Maybe i'm, wrong MAYBE
dj would, have but but here was a. Guy you,
know the head coaches using the eighth word Mentioned heisman for.
(34:09):
Him and you, know this has been a tough year
For Demon williams because in The pack or excuse, me
in The Big, ten there was nine, games and four of.
Them four of those games were played against top twenty. Five,
now WHEN i say top twenty, FIVE i am filtering
(34:29):
Only power four teams and only in. Conference so anything
to do with how you did you know Against Central
michigan Or chattanooga OR Uc, davis none of that is
part of. This this is just conference play all The
power force, schools of which there are sixty seven in the,
conference sixty eight With Notre, dame but sixty seven at.
(34:52):
Conference So washington went against four top twenty five defenses
and five that were in the bottom twenty nothing in the,
middle and against the teams not in the top twenty.
Five i'm going to cite just one statistic Because i've
(35:14):
run the correlation. Stats it's the highest correlation to winning
of out of thirty different quarterback. Stats not passer, rating
not pass efficiency As college described. It it's CALLED epa
per dropback expected points added per drop. Back if you
want to know WHAT epa, is just. Google it's kind
of a new thing in saber. Metrics julian saying, is
(35:35):
by the, way number one in college. Football jaden Mayav
a number two And Ty simpson number. Three all, Right
so out of twenty four quarterbacks who had ninety or
more attemps excuse, me ninety more attemps excuse, me ninety
plus attempts out of twenty four quarterbacks in college, football
(35:55):
demand was twenty. Fourth he was dead last again the
good teams in this in the quarterback stat which by
the way includes scrambles and so the running ability is
not just when you throw the. Ball on a stat
that has the highest, Efficiency demond was twenty fourth out
of twenty. Fourth of you want to raise the attempts
(36:18):
to fifty attempts fifty six, quarterbacks he was fifty. First
uh so he but against the the not top twenty
five teams he was third out of out of fifty.
Six so he had the biggest dropoff of any quarterback
in college. Football the difference between how you played against
(36:41):
the poor teams versus how you played against the good.
Teams i'm not saying that's all. Him i'm just, saying
If i'm on the staff At, washington that, is that
is all hands out of. Deck that is what has
got to, change and somehow he's got to be coached.
UP i got some thoughts about his deep drops and
and how how deep he. IS i know we're up
(37:03):
against the break, here but but that that is the
irony to me that Had Demond, williams the guy that
the head coach was talking about as A heisman, candidate
had Demand williams played better in just two more, Games
jeedfish would be the head coach At florida right.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
Now, WELL i guess it's it's they were going up
against a. Juggernaut let's be, real, YOU i, mean it's
tough for you to really perform that, well.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
He's such a great, team but, UH.
Speaker 6 (37:31):
I, mean we don't have a ton of. TIME i
was going to ask you about The Lane kiffin. THING i,
Mean i'm my thought is JUST i just don't understand
how you don't just stay and and stick with your,
team if you're so sought, after wait until your season's
over and take THE lsu.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Job, WELL i, understand And Lane kiffson is going to
be taking a lot of. Arrows i'm in no inclination
to defend. HIM i would just say, THIS i think
that the system is so.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Broken.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
AND i think a lot of people we live in
a free market economy where people make, decisions and part
of capitalism is. People look it Up Adam, smith the
godfather of A scottish economist three hundred years. Ago people
and business entities acting in their own rational self interest
(38:24):
is a driving force of. Capitalism and there's a lot
of people who are going to be slinging a lot
of arrows at At Lane kiffen who in their own,
job either they have or if they they've seen in
their own. Industry people if you get a if you've
got to offer to up your salary by thirty percent
(38:45):
and give you a working environment for successing and an
opportunity to make millions more at a better, company there's
a heck of a lot of, people everybody in the
media who's going to kill them if they got a
raise fifty percent across you, know some other town or
across the street or. WHATEVER a lot of people enjoy
their own freedom to to take a job offer that
(39:10):
hikes there their salary by millions of dollars and gives
them a chance to be more. SUCCESSFUL a lot of
people act exactly at it As Adam smith. Says they
Act they act in their own rational self. Interest Now
i'm not there are things here you're gonna get Grand
you're gonna, say, well what about you know the timing of. It,
yeah there's there's things that what he, DID i, mean
(39:32):
he tried to leverage. Himself it's a bad look on,
him it's a bad look on Link, kivin and it's
brutal For. Mississippi mississippi in the fifties and sixties they
had eight years in two decades where they finished in
the top. Ten they hadn't finished in the top ten
until two years ago With. Kiffin kiffam gave him six,
years damn good. Years that's why he's so so, coveted
(39:56):
and so some of the details of how he did
this he could have and should have done it. Better
BUT i think a lot of people that are are
are criticizing him for Leaving. Mississippi would you leave your
job for a better company to give you a better
chance to success for millions more dollars at any? EVENT
(40:16):
i think it's fascinating and probably the Most the strongest
TAKE i have is, that you know, what do they,
say don't hate the, player you, know hate the. Game
the game, in how the, timing the, calendar.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
You know, what what.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
The transfer portal when the window is, open which necessitates
when these moves needs to be. Made we have a
situation where the Ole Miss rebels are going to be
in the playoffs with no. Coaches how the hell did
we get?
Speaker 3 (40:48):
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Speaker 2 (00:50):
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Speaker 3 (00:54):
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T and so joining us now on the program to
get things started here on this Monday, after a twenty
six nothing Seahawks win of the Vikings on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Is our QB.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
One, a man that ate his weight in yams with
marshmallows on top of them. Since last we spoke to him.
Hugh Mellen now joins us here on Chuck and Buck.
Good morning, sir, Good morning, rolled out of bed today. Yeah,
there are plenty of Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I would say, yes, was it good? Feast was mighty?
Was it great?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Good?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yes, right, yes, all right, indeed, yeah, how about you?
Everything's good, everything is good. And so here we go. Football,
family feasting. That's what this time of the year is
all about. And certainly we got plenty of football to
discuss this morning, including a Seahawks shutout win over the
Minnesota Vikings. And so where does the conversation on this
(01:52):
game start with you? I gotta believe on the defensive
side of the ball, man, When you post a shutout
in the National Football League, that's a hell of an accomplishment.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
What quarterback you're facing? Indeed, and I felt sorry for
that quarterback. Yeah, I mean that he was put in
a tough situation. He was actually playing okay in the
first quarter, and then you know, the interception just kept
mounting and it was too much. But I think for Seattle,
you know, if you win a game twenty four to
(02:23):
nothing against a team that was fourteen and three last year,
if there's any room for complaints, you're living fat. It
would be my you know, because because it's hard to
grouse about a game like that.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I understand there's some there's some issues. We'll get to
him on the.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Offense that they've got a tidy up and sooner rather
than later. But I think the thrust of is just
the defense, how how they're playing, how they're playing together.
They've kind of sorted things out with Nick im and
Worry has clearly changed. I mean, prior to Week ten,
Seahawks and dime defense where you can have Emon Worry
(03:05):
and and Devin Witherspoon in this in the slot defensively,
they had averaged four per week with a max of eight.
Since that time, they're averaging nineteen plays of dime. And
that's getting Rek Wolling in. We should talk about him
as well, and so I think that they Mike McDonald
(03:27):
has a vision of his personnel. He has a vision
of what he wants to do schematically, and you know
it's working. Yeah, worked yesterday, but you know it worked
against Matthew Stafford as well.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
So, I mean they're they're they're pretty dialed in, and
at this point you could say they're they're playing in
a dominant fashion.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Huge.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
I mean, obviously the kind of the I guess the
stat of the game is the four picks. But I mean,
you're right, it did seem to turn right at that
pick six first and foremot and fourth down. You figure, Okay,
I can see why they're wanting to go for it,
and yet he just kind of throws that up. There's
just I mean, an unrelenting defense or is that a
(04:06):
rookie mistake or probably a combo of both.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Well, I think, you know, for me, you know, breaking
this down, seeing how this could happen, I think that
the SS just absolutely out coached Kevin O'Connell on that play.
And so it's fourth and one on the four yard line.
My notes say, I'm king right, King right, is base
personnel by the Vikings with the full back offset to
(04:30):
the strong side to the tight end, and Queen would
he be on the other side. Mike would call it
green eye strong. But in any event, whatever you call it,
what you're gonna do is you're gonna have or you're
trying to get a right handed quarterback rolling out. But
the flow action that you're doing, you're having the full
back go away from the sprint out, but you're having
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the tailback immediately go to as opposed to a naked
which you see most when when you want to get
the quarterback on the perimeter. As opposed to the naked play,
the half back he just goes straight to the flat.
You're trying to get from a Minnesota standpoint, you want
man to man. You're thinking fourth and one, it's going
(05:16):
to be man to man. You're and by having the
linebacker Ernest Jones aligned over the full back, you say what,
but the fullback goes to the opposite side. It often
creates a little bit of a uh, miscommunication among the
middle linebackers who they're gonna block. And then you're having
what's called the reduction by both the tight end and
the receivers. They reduce, which means go into the ball.
(05:39):
They create a pick on Manda Man and then Addison
the flanker. He runs to the corner route. As they said,
the tailback is in the flat, the quarterback comes out.
You want to hit the tailback in the flat right away,
but Seattle they zone it off and so there's no
immediate play to the flat. You see Rieke Woollen and
(06:00):
Emon Worry react to the to the flat immediately. And
then DeMarcus Lawrence, he had been what's called the six
eye technique, the inside shade of the tight end, and
he when the tight end reduces, he just comes straight
up the field. And you don't get the same influence
when the running back is to the side of the
rollout as opposed to a way. You don't get that
(06:22):
that reduction, that downward action by DeMarcus Lawrence. He's just
straight up the field. He's in Brosmer's face. And and
then the kid just makes a really poor decision trying
to you know, I guess he would say, well, it's
fourth down, I don't want to take a sack, you know,
at least give myself a little bit of a chance.
But obviously very misguided. And there's your play of the game.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, play of the game, Ernest Jones takes it all
the way to the house. But you mentioned that DeMarcus
Lawrence kind of caused the disruption. I know, we got
three other interceptions to discuss, but the fumble play was
Mike McDonald's favorite play where Brosmer on third and fourteen
tries to check down to Aaron Jones does so successfully,
(07:07):
and then the next thing that I saw was Aaron
Jones get eaten alive on live television by DeMarcus Lawrence
trailing the play. I mean it was gruesome. I mean
Lawrence stood up and Jones feet were sticking out of
his mouth. That's how gruesome that that hit was fumble
and another drive ruined by DeMarcus Lawrence and the Seahawks.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
De Yeah, isn't this the fiftieth anniversary of Jaws? You know,
I think I think something like that was taking place.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I think it would it helped, It would help Jones
if the music would have accompanied the play, then he
might have known.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
I did that but too fast. But I'd tell you schematically.
I think why a defensive coach would like that. First
of all, DeMarcus Lawrence, he he chips the running back.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
He's it's kind of the way.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
The Patriots played the greatest show on her from the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Every time Marshall Fawk was gonna go out the defensive
end instead of you rushing the quarterback, it's more important
for you to just jam the halfback before he gets
into his route. And so it was reminiscent of that
and many other times, and that the schemes have been.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Worked like that.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
But that's the that's the trade off, right, We're gonna
we're gonna diminish our pass rushing aspect from Lawrence in
order to UH to UH to give a hard contact
to the running back who's trying to run his route,
and so he's taken out of the pass rush. He's
way behind the play, and it's just a hustle play.
And I think that that. I mean, you'd expect most
(08:39):
guys until the whistle to blow to hustle, but I
think that there was kind of top shelf hustle in
that regard, particularly from an older player, and so I
think that I think he wants to go overboard to
commend that hustle so that the rest of the team
hears how enthusiastic he is about that. I mean, I thought,
(09:00):
I thought, yes, I was impressed with a hustle. You know,
I wasn't going over the top. It was a great play,
but you'd expect a guy he's on your side of
the field. It's not like he's on the you know,
on the opposite numbers. He's on your side of the field.
He should chase the ball. So yes, i'll give him credit.
I think Mike McDonald's taking a little bit overboard for
the reasons I mentioned. But yeah, it was a great play.
And you know the art of producing a fumble and
(09:24):
you know, punching the ball out, you practice it. Not
everybody is intuitive with it, and he made it very
intuitive play to get the fumble.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Well, I mean not long after that, that's when I
mean the floodgates had opened at that point. I mean
they were kind of pulling away, and yet you felt like, oh,
there was that emon worry penalty where he's just tackling
a guy. But I guess that the suplexus is a
little bit unnecessary, and so they give them the unnecessary roughness.
You're like, oh, well maybe this would if that turns
(09:54):
into seven points, maybe you have yourself a ball game.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
But the very next play, I mean, to me, it's like,
I get why that's a penalty. I'm not against that,
but to me, there's a reciprocity on they did that
to Sam Darnold early in the game. Yes, they rode
him fifteen yards back and dumped dumped him with on
his weight on a quarterback. I thought that those were
(10:18):
equally as deserving or non deserving of.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
A late call, so of it.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
I think Seattle kind of got the short end though,
on that exchange, because there's got called and the Vikings didn't.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
But go ahead, I'm with you.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
I mean, I think for officials, yeah, I just I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
How are gonna give him a chance. They're gonna they're
gonna kuck up the game.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
I don't understand how you're really throwing a flag. I
mean that have we ever seen him it get hurt
by it's because it looks bad, like I stopped you
in the backfield.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
They didn't come off the turnbuckle though. Yeah, well that's party.
Yeah you can close line, but yeah I pulled chair.
Yeah that's that's I get it.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
I mean, he's one step away from like a kindo
stick or something bashing him across it and yelling into
a microphone.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
But I'm oily, I don't think that should be.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
And yet even Worry hopefully learns from it, because you
don't want that to happen in an important game, an
important situation, even though he's doing is tackling the guy
finishing the play.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
But that basically it didn't.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
It was all for not because the very next play,
Kobe Bryant picks off Max Browsner.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Again.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Yeah, well, you incited me to editorialize for one second.
To me, you're you're you're using these pro wrestling terms.
To me, pro wrestling has more in common with opera
than it does with sports. And I'm not even kidding.
I'm being dead serious in all the ways that are
meaningful and so uh but I digress. Look the the
(11:48):
the next interception was two deep and four under, and
by the way, I was not noteworthy that the Vikings
were trying to get a completion to Jay Naylor. Uh,
Jalen Naylor. So Naylor, what are you doing there? You
know he's going over the millfield. I don't know why
he stopped, but I give credit to Ernest Jones. It's
(12:09):
a two deep four under zone. When you have a
two deep standard just to have five under and yet
seatle it's rushing five, so those there's more of a
burden on those four underneath to pattern read and try
and get underneath routes because you're you're missing one less
guy in coverage. And so this was another good play
by Ernest Jones and he gets underneath it. As I said,
(12:30):
I understand why the quarterback thought that Naylor was going
to stay on the move and keep moving down the
pipe between those two safeties.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
He did, and see how it gets an interception.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Then Ernest gets his a second to pick of the game.
A little bit later on in the contest, he was
just racking up the statuet at this point.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah, well this was really cool. So the vikings are
in the trip's right. So the X receiver is the
solo receiver away from the trips that is justin Jefferson
aligned to the quarterbacks left. And what you you had
from Seattle. The if I go and I say, what
(13:13):
is the best play by a corner that I've seen
this season by any team? And I don't just study
the Seahawks and their opponents. I study other teams in
college and all the best transition I have seen on
an interception this year was in the ram game when
unfortunately Kobe Durant the way he transitioned, he started, he
(13:36):
started to pull out of his back pidal he turned
in a half turn and then he was able to
do a one eighty and pickoff Sam Darnold. That's the
best transition I've seen. But the second best I've seen
is on this interception when you have Josh Job in
off coverage, outside leverage outside shoulder because of the alignment,
(13:57):
balls on on the near hash and it's a relatively
tight split, and so you've got Josh Job on an
outside off corner with no safety help other than deep
in the hole. So he's got help on a deep post.
That's it on man a man and there's no inside
help on with the hook zone defender because it's not zone.
(14:19):
And the way Josh Job just planted his foot and
drove on that inbreaking route against Justin Jefferson on a
speed cut and his accelerated the technique and the acceleration
that was extremely impressive. He broke that play up and
uh and uh. And you had Ernest Jones, he was
(14:41):
what's called the low hole player in man a man
and you know he was able to clean up the
mess after ball popped up in the air. But the
play was made by Josh Job on an off coverage
outside leverage on an inbreaking route justin Jefferson thought to
be the best receiver in the world. A lot of
(15:02):
things working against Josh job and he was clinic textbook
teaching tape drive on an inbreaking up, got his hand
it popped it up, and ern Stones against the interception.
So so all the credit in my mind, and I'm
sure in Mike McDonald's mind goes to Josh Jobant.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Well, the final kind of cut when it comes to
your hey, welcome to the NFL. Moment for Max Brosner,
I suppose is when Reek wants to get in on
the mix too right, and then he ends up fumbling
it himself. So it's like, I'll give it back, but
it is.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
It is what it is.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
How impressed were you with that play and then unimpressed
with the end of it?
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Well, I'm more impressed with the interception. If you remember
really the best play that Brosmer had, Do you remember
when he hits TJ. Howkinson on the steam route for
twenty nine yards?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
That was against a cover three, where Brosmer two is
a cover three is three deep and it's four verticals.
But the outside guys are gonna do what called fallout
comebacks and so on that play, the ball had been
on the right hash and and Hawkinson goes down to
the quarterbacks right the defensive least up to scene twenty
(16:14):
nine yards. He got inside leverage on Emon Worry and
it was a nice play by the Vikings. Now you
come back to that play. Now we're going to the
interception by by Willan. So exactly what he had seen,
same same far hash and Addison in the in the
(16:35):
slot number one is that is that's Naylor Naylor outside
running the apple. So he had already seen that play
because they had they had given up the only real
chunk play of the game. They had already watched it
on the video. Okay, got me.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
So Wolan had already seen that play.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
It's like now he hadn't been coached up because the
completion wasn't to his side, but he had seen it.
So now when he sees Addison going down the slot,
same same route they he knows that they've already been beat.
He has the outside comeback to the sideline, the slot
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receiver he comes off of him. And now this is
where where every bit matters in the play before, where
Hawkinson had had the twenty nine yarder. Addison on the
slot to the offenses left the defensive right to Wooln's side.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
He had gotten.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Widened out, and he had, and he would run up
the inside of the numbers. Now Emon worry on the
second time widens Addison out just a little bit further,
a yard further, and now Addison is going down the
middle of the numbers instead of the inside of the numbers,
so he's a little closer to Woolan. And Woolan he
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comes off of his man and the explode. The explosion
to come off of his man and to jump that
steam route seam routes. He want eighteen to twenty two yards.
It would have been completed about twenty one and a half.
So as it's the outer edge for a quarterback, you say,
wait a minute. Anything beyond twenty two the back layery
(18:18):
either the free safety the corner can fall off. But
that should have been within the window that you can get.
But Willan made a great play. And I will say this,
we watched that tape. He looks healthy. I mean he
exploded to the ball. And I want to go back
to the pick six with Ernest Jones to talk about
Wolan I had already described how Wollan had played the
zone and had responded to the half back in the flat.
(18:42):
It wasn't a terribly easy read. Seattle was in zone.
So I'm not praising him on the read. But when
the NFL has that going back again Ernest Jones, the
pick six, they have that at eighty five yards they
counted at he catches at the fifteen yard line, at
the twenty five yard line where Ernest Jones is getting
(19:03):
up the full speed, I stopped the tape on the
coach's tape. Ernest Jones was on the twenty five yard line.
Reek Woollan was on the thirteen twelve yards behind Ernest Jones,
and Riek Woollan.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Starts with what we know, the freak that he is.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
He starts sprinting and it's like some kind of secretary
and like like coming from the back, like he is
running by everybody.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
He's running by Vikings, he's running.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
By and and he catches up to to Ernest Jones.
You know, well before you know a little bit before
Ernest Jones crosses, he caught up in twelve yards made
twelve yards again. So this is a guy. What does
that tell me? Ay, you just watching him sprint is
just a beautiful something beautiful watching just how that guy
can cover ground. He's healthy, h I think he's in.
(19:54):
That tells me he is into what is happening on
this team, because you know what, I I watch the tape.
Jordan Addison and uh and Justin Jefferson, once they saw
the pick, they just they just stopped. They just watched.
They walked and watched, and here Riek Wollen is gonna
sprint twelve yards from behind the play. He didn't need
(20:15):
to do that, so so let's let's uh, I think that. Look,
he may not be a Sea Hawk, but there are
gonna be teams that watch this tape and they're going,
oh my god, this thoroughbrid, this six' four. Gazelle you,
know his ceiling is so. High so, anyways he's playing
at a high. LEVEL i think he's engaged with what
(20:36):
The seahawks are. Doing I'M i JUST i had to
throw that out because that was truly, impressive both both
in terms of the will and just the the god
given ability to run like, THAT i, mean just running
like the. Wind so nice play by. HIM i didn't
like the, Fumble none of us. Did mike McDonald won't.
Either you, know it's a good lesson to learn in
(20:57):
a blowout game that next time he'll he'll consider the
circumstances and it's okay to just give yourself up and
not go through that.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Fumble, yeah it was like when you play The Super
mario and he swallows the star and he's like blinking
and he's so much faster than anybody else in the.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Game that's what it.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Looks that's What woolan looked like exactly on that interception.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Return he just like looked like he was on a different. Level,
again he can cover some.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
GROUND i, Mean i'll tell you, what IF i was
playing against, Him i'd want to know where he is
because because that lunatic can freaking cover.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Ground so, yeah it didn't help on.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Him, yeah The vikings had mushroom cap helmets, yesterday or
MAYBE i just imagined.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
That Hugh millin is with. Us it's Our Monday Morning.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
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will continue on the other, side talk about some of
the offensive concerns that did pop, up even though it
was they blow out twenty six nothing victory over The
Minnesota vikings At Sports radio ninety three point three KHA.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Rfm he, rolls.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
He's, pressured he's in, trouble he's it.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Up Erness jones, post.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Well take it all the, way.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
The game change in, Play Turvernus jones eighty four yards
and no. Flags Joe Davis Fox sports there on the
call of the pick six part of The seahawks defensive excellence,
yesterday twenty six nothing they went over The Minnesota, ikings
(22:34):
and so it was a bit of a.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Laugher.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Certainly mike McDonald looked very pleased afterwards with his shutout
victory as a defensive minded head. Coach but there are
some things to discuss on the offensive side of the
ball that seemed a little. Concerning we got the right
guy to discuss. Them Hugh millan is with. Us It's
monday morning quarterback session with OUR qb one And. HUGH
i don't think there's any. DEBATE i thought that was
(22:58):
the worst pass protection seen thus far this season For Sam.
Darnold there were times where he didn't stand a. Chance
what broke? Down and is it concerning going? Forward, well
a lot broke. Down there are some concerns going. FORWARD
i think they certainly have to fix the problems that they.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
HAD i felt like.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Going into the. Game first of, all you just know
how The vikings are. Defensively they are going into the
game number one in THE nfl forty four and a
half percent of the use of three to. Four that's
obviously seven seven man. Front but when you only have
(23:42):
three defensive linemen and you have four, linebackers even on
the basic, stuff there's a little bit of extra thinking
for the offense because they have generally two outside linebackers
on either side two inside. Linebackers but any of those
four linebackers can, rush but it's not really a. Blitz
(24:03):
it's a four man rush and you can. Play the
standard standard defense is seven man uh in coverage four
man rushing, Right so anything more than four is considered a.
Blitz but what the The vikings do is they uh
again number one in the use of three to. Four
(24:24):
they are dead last in the use of. Nickel so
they want big people and they want want to put
everybody up on the line of scrimmage so that they
are a. Threat any of them are a threat to
pass rush and all of them can rush past rush
decently and they have enough again because they're not a,
nickel they're they're linebackers or, defense and there's only three defensive.
(24:47):
Linemen they can get all these guys up to the
line of. Scrimmage they can they can Get, harrison that
that veteran safety that might be A hall Of. Famer
uh he's got great instincts as a pass. Rusher so
they have a an entire bevy of different pass. Rushes
they can show you by having everybody mugged up on
the line and you have to communicate who's. Coming and
(25:10):
The vikings comeing into the game were number one in
THE nfl in terms of percent of snaps with pressure
and u uh creating pressure and and uh, so so
what you saw was just every make of of zone
blitz where they. Had there was times where they you're
(25:31):
looking you, say wait a, minute that's a three under
or excuse, me three deep and two under. Zone that
is that is crazy from a coverage. Standpoint to even
talk about, that you're just assuming that somebody there's gonna
be a havoc and havoc early and so that was
a big part of. It they would do two deep four.
(25:51):
Unders they were they they are playing what's called a
palms uh palms technique where the cornerback is is waiting
on the corner in the, safety they read the widest
receiver in the. Slot if they both go, vertical they
both get vertical. Vertical but if anybody's in the hat
(26:11):
in the in the in the, flat then the corner
triggers on the flat and the safety is over the
top on the outside. Receiver And seattle's propensity to run
squeeze formations when you have a lot of receivers that
are close to the, ball that allows that coverage to
be played with greater. Regularity you can bring guys off the.
Edge and So seattle did a very poor job of
(26:33):
COMMUNICATING i mean.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Third the first the first.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Blitz for, example third and, eleven there's four to To
Sam donald's left and there's four to the. Right So,
seattle they send the center to the. Left they got
a linebacker coming in the a gap and and you
saw That. Sharbonne he did a poor job of. Blocking
(26:57):
and he just never seems to get his hips. Right,
uh he takes guys on with the wrong. Show he
will never ever block with his left shoulder even when
he should he only will block with his right. Shoulder
so he was getting blown up all. Day and then
you got a linebacker in THE b gap who starts
At Anthony, bradford your worst, lineman but then he pops
(27:19):
out that Holds bradford for just a. Second there's no
way that he's gonna get To harrison the safety coming
into his. Outside and And Abe Lukes lucas gets. Smoked
so and And Sam darnold has three guys that he's
fighting for his. Life uh uh and and they all
came from the right. SIDE i JUST i just outlined.
(27:41):
One we could be here for an hour and a
half AND i could break down the. Situations but you're, Asking,
okay what what is the summary of? It the summary
of it is that they play a lot of uh
variety of zones behind their, pressures zones that make no.
Sense if you drop on a, whiteboard you'd, say, well
(28:02):
we're gonna have guys running all Over Scott. Free but
they they create such a problem with your. Communication they
are they are counting On brian floy is the the defensive.
Coordinator they are counting on that that miscommunication on the
one uh that the sack fumble down in the uh
In seattle's on end of the. Territory territory they, have you,
(28:24):
know everybody. Overload you got a tight, end a rocky
tight end in. Here he blocks. Down shouldn't have blocked
down the. Tackle and in that case he had enough
guys to uh uh Abe lucas had his. Man there's
no reason for the rooky tackle the uh uh to block,
down but he. Does and so now you Got Dallas
clark if you remember him from the, draft you, know
(28:46):
a great athlete come and just you, know shot a
bat out of hell and he and he blows right
into Sam. Donold so so it's the communication, piece uh
the you. Know and then they're doing funky things like
they played Very Little man A, man but they Had
harrison the. Safety he's he's running out At Jackson smith
(29:07):
And jigba and by the by the, way they Had
Byron murphy covering J s N, on shadowing him a
lots on press man and Man harrison is screaming out
on the. Inside well that you never see that on
bump and. Run so that that, there there's there's stuff
that are very unorthodox with what they, do almost think
(29:28):
that as a. Bust and Then i'll, finally AS i
mentioned j s N. Uh you, know there hasn't been
many opportunities to criticize. Him he hasn't deserved. It But
i'll tell you on on one play The vikings were.
Playing you know in basketball that box and one everybody's playing,
zone but you, play you take the best player and
you play man and man with. Him, well they had
(29:48):
to play where you could say it's like. That they're
they're playing what's called the cover six or cover two to,
one side four to the. OTHER i, mean it's very
clear what they were. Playing but they Had Byron murphy
just SHADOWING jsn wherever he, went And jaysn ran a
twelve yard. Hook he started the forty six yard, line
went to the thirty four yard. Line he started turning
(30:09):
his eyes back at the forty yard, line six yards
before he was going to. Break he turns his hips
at the thirty. Seven he still goes up the field
to the thirty. Four that would BE i would give
him a. Minus i'd give him a double minus if it.
Mattered on the pass, right it's a terrible, route and
and you know he's just gloved up and Then darnold
(30:32):
put it in a catchable place and he didn't get.
It maybe at this juncture he was kind of his
mind was distracted or he wasn't into. It but that's
a very sloppy. Route so so we, don't you, know
there's blame to go around for. Everybody, yeah offensively and
AND i think it was like a fighter just being
against the ropes man there they were taking it To.
(30:54):
Seattle seattle was on their heels on the ropes in
a lot of different, ways and all the numbers Were.
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(31:23):
three point THREE.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Kjrfm, yeah it's.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
FUNNY i mean like we just were not worried about all.
That we're just we're just worried about playing playing our solid,
ball playing for each, other taking sure we do it every,
day and and then doing it On. Sunday you, know
it's like we're Not we're really not out to like
impress anybody or prove anybody, Wrong like we really don't.
(31:46):
Care it's just trying to prove ourselves, right you, know
and our guys are dedicated to do. That it's a great.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Group bike McDonald's talking about his.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Defense oh, yeah my.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Defense i'm a depends on my.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Head Oh i'm a.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Genius shut out zero, points it, says it just keeps
on getting. Better we'll talk more about The seahawks twenty.
Six nothing'll win over The vikings yesterday with Coach holmgren
and With hugh coming up starting at nine. O'clock but
it's a really fascinating college football weekend as, well including
(32:21):
THE u Double oregon rivalry that went down here In
seattle On. Saturday SO i do want to get your
thoughts on, That hugh before we get back To seahawks
with coach at nine. O'clock twenty six to. Fourteen the final,
SCORE i don't think it was that lopsided of a.
Game it felt very competitive to, me and that felt
like there were opportunities FOR u dub to actually pull the.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
UPSET i don't know what you, Thought yeah they.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
DID i think that there was a lot of concern
in among The husky faithful about a new defensive. Coordinator
belichick moved on with his father and the defense of if,
anything has been certainly better this, year and SO i
think the defense did the. JOB i think that there's
(33:04):
a certain irony that the jetfish anybody who's coached with.
HIM i, mean he hasn't made it a, Secret he's
disclosed it. Publicly he would have wanted The florida, job
and Had washington won two more, games Say wisconsin and
(33:26):
and you, know let's Say Ohio, state that wasn't going
to be achievable in all, likelihood But michigan Or oregon
those were winnable games with a good game by the.
QUARTERBACK i think it's just interesting the most anointed young
Quarterback i've never seen A washington quarterback just kind of
handed the job and discussed that. Way you, say, well
(33:46):
times are, NEW i got. IT i just STILL i
can't Believe Don james would ever talk about a freshman
quarterback like he's the, guy like he didn't even have
to compete in. Spring and again Maybe i'm, wrong MAYBE
dj would, have but but here was a. Guy you,
know the head coaches using the eighth word Mentioned heisman for.
(34:09):
Him and you, know this has been a tough year
For Demon williams because in The pack or excuse, me
in The Big, ten there was nine, games and four of.
Them four of those games were played against top twenty. Five,
now WHEN i say top twenty, FIVE i am filtering
(34:29):
Only power four teams and only in. Conference so anything
to do with how you did you know Against Central
michigan Or chattanooga OR Uc, davis none of that is
part of. This this is just conference play all The
power force, schools of which there are sixty seven in the,
conference sixty eight With Notre, dame but sixty seven at.
(34:52):
Conference So washington went against four top twenty five defenses
and five that were in the bottom twenty nothing in the,
middle and against the teams not in the top twenty.
Five i'm going to cite just one statistic Because i've
(35:14):
run the correlation. Stats it's the highest correlation to winning
of out of thirty different quarterback. Stats not passer, rating
not pass efficiency As college described. It it's CALLED epa
per dropback expected points added per drop. Back if you
want to know WHAT epa, is just. Google it's kind
of a new thing in saber. Metrics julian saying, is
(35:35):
by the, way number one in college. Football jaden Mayav
a number two And Ty simpson number. Three all, Right
so out of twenty four quarterbacks who had ninety or
more attemps excuse, me ninety more attemps excuse, me ninety
plus attempts out of twenty four quarterbacks in college, football
(35:55):
demand was twenty. Fourth he was dead last again the
good teams in this in the quarterback stat which by
the way includes scrambles and so the running ability is
not just when you throw the. Ball on a stat
that has the highest, Efficiency demond was twenty fourth out
of twenty. Fourth of you want to raise the attempts
(36:18):
to fifty attempts fifty six, quarterbacks he was fifty. First
uh so he but against the the not top twenty
five teams he was third out of out of fifty.
Six so he had the biggest dropoff of any quarterback
in college. Football the difference between how you played against
(36:41):
the poor teams versus how you played against the good.
Teams i'm not saying that's all. Him i'm just, saying
If i'm on the staff At, washington that, is that
is all hands out of. Deck that is what has
got to, change and somehow he's got to be coached.
UP i got some thoughts about his deep drops and
and how how deep he. IS i know we're up
(37:03):
against the break, here but but that that is the
irony to me that Had Demond, williams the guy that
the head coach was talking about as A heisman, candidate
had Demand williams played better in just two more, Games
jeedfish would be the head coach At florida right.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
Now, WELL i guess it's it's they were going up
against a. Juggernaut let's be, real, YOU i, mean it's
tough for you to really perform that, well.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
He's such a great, team but, UH.
Speaker 6 (37:31):
I, mean we don't have a ton of. TIME i
was going to ask you about The Lane kiffin. THING i,
Mean i'm my thought is JUST i just don't understand
how you don't just stay and and stick with your,
team if you're so sought, after wait until your season's
over and take THE lsu.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Job, WELL i, understand And Lane kiffson is going to
be taking a lot of. Arrows i'm in no inclination
to defend. HIM i would just say, THIS i think
that the system is so.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Broken.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
AND i think a lot of people we live in
a free market economy where people make, decisions and part
of capitalism is. People look it Up Adam, smith the
godfather of A scottish economist three hundred years. Ago people
and business entities acting in their own rational self interest
(38:24):
is a driving force of. Capitalism and there's a lot
of people who are going to be slinging a lot
of arrows at At Lane kiffen who in their own,
job either they have or if they they've seen in
their own. Industry people if you get a if you've
got to offer to up your salary by thirty percent
(38:45):
and give you a working environment for successing and an
opportunity to make millions more at a better, company there's
a heck of a lot of, people everybody in the
media who's going to kill them if they got a
raise fifty percent across you, know some other town or
across the street or. WHATEVER a lot of people enjoy
their own freedom to to take a job offer that
(39:10):
hikes there their salary by millions of dollars and gives
them a chance to be more. SUCCESSFUL a lot of
people act exactly at it As Adam smith. Says they
Act they act in their own rational self. Interest Now
i'm not there are things here you're gonna get Grand
you're gonna, say, well what about you know the timing of. It,
yeah there's there's things that what he, DID i, mean
(39:32):
he tried to leverage. Himself it's a bad look on,
him it's a bad look on Link, kivin and it's
brutal For. Mississippi mississippi in the fifties and sixties they
had eight years in two decades where they finished in
the top. Ten they hadn't finished in the top ten
until two years ago With. Kiffin kiffam gave him six,
years damn good. Years that's why he's so so, coveted
(39:56):
and so some of the details of how he did
this he could have and should have done it. Better
BUT i think a lot of people that are are
are criticizing him for Leaving. Mississippi would you leave your
job for a better company to give you a better
chance to success for millions more dollars at any? EVENT
(40:16):
i think it's fascinating and probably the Most the strongest
TAKE i have is, that you know, what do they,
say don't hate the, player you, know hate the. Game
the game, in how the, timing the, calendar.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
You know, what what.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
The transfer portal when the window is, open which necessitates
when these moves needs to be. Made we have a
situation where the Ole Miss rebels are going to be
in the playoffs with no. Coaches how the hell did
we get?
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Here Mike holmern will join us Next monday. Morning quarterback
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