December 10, 2025 • 33 mins
Yesterday we spoke with Rick Neuheisel and got straight down to business about whether or not he was going to be the next head coach of WSU football. Would Neuheisel be a good fit and should the Cougs at least be considering Coach or someone like him? :30- It seems like the Seahawks face an extraordinary number of backup quarterbacks and haven’t always had a lot of luck against them, but how accurate is that? :45- Aikman is done with NIL, how long before others follow?
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yeah, sorry, run a little bit late here going into
the eight o'clock hour. But look, solving college football takes time, right,
the people overnight. Obviously, it's taking the people in charge
one hundred years and they're still not there.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Right. We just didn't in like six minutes.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Maybe yeah, maybe we went eight sorry Rich Moore sorry, ps, Yeah,
but we did solve it at least.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, you're gonna get good ratings for that. Yeah, yeah,
I mean we could just take some of the commercials out.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I mean, yeah, anyway, we solved college football. Chris Peterson
challenged me to do it earlier this week when we
had him on. Remember that when he said he signing off,
he goes, good luck solving college football.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I took it as a challenge and I succeeded, coach,
So go ahead, take a listen.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
What have you done?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Try to poke holes in that? Yeah, buddy, buddy boy.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
He'll be like, oh, actually, you know what, Now he's
gonna go ticket. I've got to plan guys to sell
college football.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I would love that. I actually would love that. Yeah,
So give that a go, fancy pants. I hope he does.
Rick new Isil is our normal college football insider we
have him on every Tuesday at nine o'clock, and of
course we had him on yesterday, and it was I
always look forward to Coach. I know you talking to Coach.
I know you both do as well. But yesterday was
(01:34):
particularly interesting because of all the Washington State Cougar rumors
that are going on out there. And I didn't know,
I mean, I didn't even know if he would answer
the call. Frankly, I mean, when you got something going
like that, I mean, I think he would have told us, hey, guys,
I can't talk. And had he skipped yesterday, I think
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we would have known something was going on and he
just couldn't talk about it. But he did answer the call.
He did come on with us, and he didn't back
away from any of the questions that Bucky and I
asked him yesterday. In case you missed it, and in
case you are quite interested in this story, we're going
to replace some of it for you now, just the
Koug part of our conversation with Coach yesterday here on
(02:19):
Chuck and Buck.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I have no idea. I have not spoken to anybody
from Washington State. There have been a number of alums
that I've talked to I've made a lot of friends
over my lifetime to Jack Thompson's of the world, the
Mark Rippins of the world, the Drew Bledsoe's of the world,
and I've always admired greatly how much they loved their school.
(02:41):
I mean, it is a it's a badge of honor
to be a kug and so there's no question that
there's great passion there. And I've made it clear that
I missed coach, There's no question about that. So if
an opportunity were present us up, I would certainly entertain it.
Have not talked to anybody at the school. These things
(03:03):
go by way of search, firms and touch, so I'll
check in with you later if I got any news,
but I don't have any today.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Okay, Well, then it sounds I mean that you kind
of pretty much answered it. I mean you you miss coaching,
so if the opportunity present itself, you would gladly take it.
Have If somebody here is hearing this from Wazoo right
now and says, well, we've heard about that, but we
didn't know for sure. If he's interested that you're interested
in going to Pullman.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yeah, I'd be interested. And the other thing that's kind
of attracted for me. And again, this would all have
to be you know, talked over, and I haven't had
that opportunity to talk to anybody. I'd love to coach
with my son and to have an opportunity for the
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two of us to collaborate in this kind of environment
and put together approach. I've said this new pac twelve
that is going to begin next year with eight schools
that all have state named after him. I can't believe
All State Insurance hasn't decided how to sponsor this thing
because it is all states. That new conference is really
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exciting from a standpoint that you've got eight similarly resourced programs.
It isn't like there's just the elephants in this room
that are going to run the table, kind of like
James Madison is in the Sun Belt where they got
more money than everybody else. It sounds to me like
you've got eight schools at all have a chance to
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coach hard and recruit hard and a chance to win,
and that to me is appealing.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I'd love it for you. Of course, you still have
to come on with us every Tuesday at nine o'clock Tuesday. Yes, yes,
but I mean I envisioned a scenario, and I don't
want to make you uncomfortable. I envisioned a scenario where
you coach the Koogs for a few years and the
and eventually it's handed off to your son and he
becomes a staple there. I don't know's that's what as
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in my mind is is that anything that you I mean,
are you entertaining that as well? I mean not just
working with your son, but maybe the new Heisel stamp
gets put on that program for years to come.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
So the old saying in the country song you want
to hear God laugh, tell them your plans, right? So yeah,
I don't. I don't think we can put the cart
too far before the horse.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
I know this.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I've loved college football and I miss it and the
relationships daily. I get a heaping hunk of it doing
what I do, and I love coming on with you guys.
I love the CBS gig that I've enjoyed. Now this
is my eleventh year. But if I'm going to make
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a run to coach one more time, the clock is ticking.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Right.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
You can all see Marissa Tomay banging her foot on
the my cousin Benny porch There So if it were
to be, I think I'd be really excited about it.
If not, I certainly understand.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Rick new Isel with us yesterday. If you want to
hear the entire conversation, and we do get into the
college football playoff picture and many other topics. It's good
twenty minutes with Coach new Isel yesterday. Check that out
at ninety three three kjar dot com. But certainly that
was a Newsworthy noteworthy yesterday Coach new Isel and I
asked him point blank, are you going to be the
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next head coach of the Washington State Cougar. So we
got it out there yesterday. Look, I realized there's a
little bit of hesitation from koog fans. I mean, you
know that guy's bled Washington Purple in the past. Even
if it's not Coach new Heiseel, it does make sense
to get to me, to get somebody like coach new Heisl.
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I mean this idea of finding some young guy that
will be the program forever. You know what young guys
want to do, keep climbing the corporate ladder, and even
though they say all the right things, when they take
over the program, this is where I want to be.
If they're great. There's a place that they want to
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be more, especially now, more now than ever. You're in
a group of five program right now. I mean you're
not even you're Jimmy Rogers. Yeah you're not. Yeah, exactly,
that's what I'm referencing. I mean, that's the program that
you are. You're yes, you're still in the PAC twelve,
but you're not a big program anymore. And so you
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can keep trying to find that guy that you can
grow old with and think that it's possible. And I'm
not saying it's impossible, but isn't it far more realistic
to take somebody that has gone through the paces, that
has been around the program. Is dedicated in his love
to college football, to college athletics, to West Coast football,
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and even though he wore the Washington Husky colors at
one point, he's coming in here not looking to climb
the corporate ladder. He thinks he's got more coaching, he
thinks he's got more impact. He misses that loves the
state of Washington, loves West Coast football, wants to get
back into the mix before he is too old. And oh,
by the way, just happens to have a doppel ganger
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son who's just getting started, is a hot name in
the business right now, and might hand the program off
to him when he's done. If Jerry falls in love
with Pullman, maybe that's your young coach of the future.
But to me, it just makes more sense right now
to find the guy that wants to give his last
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last talents and coaching to one more project more than
it does to find the next hot offensive coordinator that,
as soon as he has a great year, is taking
a better job the following season.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah, it's a great point to bring up, Chuck. I
think the idea because Wazu, I mean, we were talking
this season about Jed Fish and whether or not he
was essentially going to be using you dub as a
jump off point to something that was better. So and
you Dub is a legitimate program in the Big ten,
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right and yet Wazoo unfortunately has found themselves in a
collapsed conference at this point, waiting to figure out what
is going to happen with all the realignment. So yeah,
in a Power five situation where it doesn't matter who
you get, Wazoo job is big enough. The program itself
is big enough that if you can run it and
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then you show signs that you can do pretty good
stuff with less than talent because you aren't going to
get the best talent because of where you're playing in
the amount of exposure they're gonna get. So if you
can show that you can do well with what you got,
then another big team when they have to move on
from their coach for whatever reason, is gonna come you.
They're gonna come take you away. So the idea of
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going with Rick new Heiseel, to me, almost lends you
a twofold aspect because he's going to bring his son.
He would love to bring his son. His son would
coach with him underneath, and now all of a sudden
it's like, hey, when I'm gone, that's who gets it.
And now he gets to kind of learn under his
dad like he's and then kind of take that chair
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when his dad steps aside. That would be your best
opportunity to possibly get somebody that falls in love with
it over the course of be in the OC, and
then the head coach and then falls in love with
the polouse enough that he's like, I'm cool with being
this dude here forever. And yet even that's far fetched.
But I think it's your best chance at it, your
best chance at long term a longevity thing, and not
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just having somebody use you as a stepping stone. The
Rick new Heisel, the new Heiseel plan is a pretty
good one in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
And who knows, maybe he's got ten years left in him. Yeah,
you know, I don't think though, that he would be
coming in there. I don't think Rick new ISIL's even entertaining.
He referenced Marissa Tome, you know, you know, sitting there
tapping his foot, waiting for his opportunity. That character, that
Marissa Tome character didn't think she was going to be
the next head coach at Alabama if she has a
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ten and two season at Washington State. I don't think
that Rick new ISELI even entertains that he would love
to jump in to this size of a program, this
type of a project. He knows Pullman wants to live there.
I mean, those are the criteria I would be looking
for if I were Washington.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Absolutely, I think it would be a great fit.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
And I think the idea that yeah, you get Jerry
to grow up and you know, hone his coaching chops
on the police just makes him love it. More. And
I don't think we're in this era of college football
where anything is permanent anymore. Yeah, but I think this
is about as sure thing of a long run that
you could have if you went with these two.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah. And then it doesn't mean that if Jerry took
over and he's he's a very young man. Yeah, Like
if he took over and he had a great year
the very first year or the first couple of years,
he's probably leaving two.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
But you've still got what eight six years that you
could get out of the two of them.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah. Yeah, even if he leaves after year number two
and you give Rick five, that's seven years. That's a
longer run.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Then it's better than the one or two year runs
that they're on right now.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
That's right, and you get Yeah, you build that consistency,
which especially with the smaller programs, that consistency is what's
going to help you and in the recruiting and in
you know, just in terms of having your program become
more successful. That's part of their problems. They can't keep
a coach right now, and it's everyone thinks it's a
stepping stone. So if you get those coaches who want
to be there, then they're going to sell that to
the kids.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
And I don't think you should even be all that upset.
I mean, be upset that you're not one of the
Power five anymore or Power four anymore. But I mean
you can be upset for that as a Koog fan
for the rest of your life. But it's almost like
everybody gets used as a stepping stone. But Ole miss
got used as a stepping stone for goodness sake. You know,
(13:01):
Washington got used as a stepping stone. Yeah. Yeah, So
it's it's until somebody reaches the highest rung in their minds.
I mean, everybody's getting used right now. In college athletics,
everybody's out for themselves. I mean there's no sure thing,
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but a short erer thing is probably getting that coach
who's got a good five years left in him that's
been around the block of time or two and is
no longer fantasizing that he's going to be the next
head coach of the New York Giants, right, And that's
Rick new Isiel. So I mean, there are other guys
that we could discuss, but he wants the job, and
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we like coach, and even if it costs us a
nine o'clock excellent segment every Tuesday. I'd be really happy
for him, and I'd be happy for Kug fans. I
think it makes a lot of sense, even though I
know a lot of koog fans bristle at the thought
of hiring a former udub ed coach.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah, I get it, But at the same time, I
think you probably shouldn't necessarily let that get in the way.
To me, it boils down to, yes, you have a
guy that's been around the block, that knows this stuff,
who's chomping at the bit to get back into the
coaching ranks. If you give him the opportunity. It's not
just that you're getting somebody that knows what he's doing. Uh,
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that's gonna come in there and put the last bit
of his heart and soul into your program. You're not
gonna come in there and give you half asked because
he used to have a He's going to come in
there and just show that he's always respected the Kugs
and the respected the program they have and he wants
to add to it. But it's the double way. It's
the double new Heisel effect. It's it's the new Heidel squared,
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where you do now have us you have a chance
of getting his son to fall in love with Cougar
Gold over the course of however long that he's you
know that he's cheese. Yes, all of a sudden he's saying,
now he gets the job after five years. And then
he does that, and he continues growing the program at
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whatever level they're at. Now a sudden, you have six, seven,
eight years with this new Heiel, the new Heiseel squared program.
And yeah, now his kids in school, he can't have
you know, can't eat a meal without Cougar Gold cheese.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
And you got him.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Maybe he sticks around here just like this is where
I want to be.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, I mean he's getting ready to have children. I
mean it's got to be a little bit impactful to
have to want to keep them where they were born
and raised and started school. And you've got an opportunity
to do that. Yeah, you know, and maybe you do
lock him up. Maybe maybe the new Isel name does
become synonymous with Kook's football going forward, the new era
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of Kook's football going forward. But anyway, I'm not trying
to convince anybody out there listening of it, no, you
really need to do this, But I think it sounds
like a good idea for the program, and I think
it'd be great for coach all right, coming up next
Seahawks quarterbacks that they faced over the years, like there's
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a little bit of luck of facing backups more often
than everybody else. Well, I've decided I'm tired of wondering
if that's true. I did the research. We'll talk about
it next. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah, sounds so weird, sounds helpful on the.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Hall of Fame ballot. Five years removed from the National
Football League, and yet so desperate are they that they
have signed him this week, Philip Rivers has signed with
the Indianapolis Colts on their practice squad. Greg Bell has
given us twenty four hours of thought, and earlier this
morning told us that he's feeling like they're going to
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start Philip Rivers. I don't think it's going to happen,
but I do believe, especially if Riley Leonard can't go
because of injury. I mean, he's gonna have to be activated.
He's gonna have to be your backup. I mean, so
Brett Rippin gets off the practice squad, he starts in
the game. But now you're one injury from Philip Rivers playing.
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So I think there's a chance that he plays on Sunday,
which is miraculous enough. But it's hard for me to
believe that he goes from five years coaching high school football,
no matter what good of shape that he's in, getting
activated or getting signed on a Tuesday, getting to the
practice field on a Wednesday, and he's ready to face
Mike McDonald's defense as a starter on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
No chance, right, I mean, I don't think. I think
it's no chance of him being successful in it. But
I don't think there's no chance. I mean, I think
the wane of Okay pros and cons our starter just
went out while we're in the middle of a downward
spiral as a team. Torres Akielles so he ringing Riley Leonard.
They probably feel okay about that, right, He's a young kid. Okay, well,
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see what he can do, and it wasn't all that bad.
But then he hurts his knee. If he's healthy enough
to go, that's who's going. If he's not, I don't
think it's far fetched to think that it's that you
go with Philip Rivers over Brett Rippon because I get it.
I mean, it's because it's five years out, but it's
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they they did a workout and they like the fact
that he can make the throws. He's obviously not incapable
of making the throws. I was reading an article talking
about you know something that Greg ended up bringing up,
but I had read it yesterday about how familiar he
is with it. And it's not just because he runs
it in his high school. It's because he spent six
years with Shane Stikeen with the Chargers and one with
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the one with the Colts, and so to me, it's
he understands what it is that they're supposed to do.
That to me is more he I'll bet you, even
though he hasn't been in an NFL locker room in
five years, he understands how this is supposed to be
run better than your your scout team quarterback does. It's
just he They also said, he doesn't think they don't
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think he's in shape for football, like the plane shape
that you have to be. Okay, so you can throw
against air, but how can you run around? And do
you want to put him at risk of doing it?
That's where it starts to weigh in. But to me,
I mean, I'm actually leaning more towards If Riley Leonard
isn't ready to go, I think your second string, your
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next guy is probably Philibrits.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Well, they adjusted their practice schedule too. They now they're
practicing Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. They usually don't, apparently.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
So it seems to me that the Seahawks have faced
a lot of backup quarterbacks this year. But Bucky and
I have talked off the air, it seems like it
happens a lot, not just this year, but year after year. Well,
I looked it up. I actually did a little bit
of digging on this, and it's not nearly as dramatic
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as you would think, or that you and I thought.
I think this stems from that twenty nineteen season where
Mason Rudolph, Teddy Bridgewater, Matt Shaub for Matt Ryan, Kyle
Allen we faced for the Carolina Panthers. In twenty nine.
It was just a list of them, and I think
maybe that has tainted our thoughts because it hasn't been
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that dramatic. I'll just go back the last three years.
Twenty twenty four, the only two Skyler Thompson and week
number three and oh By the way, Ashley thinks we
lose to backup quarterbacks all the time. We don't. That's
also a little bit of a misnomer. Yeah we did.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
It did feel like we were for a while.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah. Well, we won against Skyler Thompson. Boy he was terrible. Yeah,
he was really better. And then we won against Jimmy
Garoppolo and he didn't start because of injury, started because
he played the last game of the year because they
were saving Stafford for the playoffs. Yeah. And so we
only faced two backup quarterbacks last year and won them both.
Twenty twenty three, only two PJ. Walker in Week eight
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for the Cleveland Browns and Josh Dobbs in Week seven
for the Arizona Cardinals, won them both.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Well, the year we played Cole McCoy, that's the one
I'm thinking of.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I think it was like twenty I think there was
like nineteen seventy four. And then in twenty twenty two,
just two again, Mike White of the New York Jets
and John Wolford of the Los Angeles Rams and won
them both. So certainly I've had a pretty good record
in recent years against backup quarterbacks, but we haven't faced
nearly as many as what you and I thought that
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they were facing until this year. There have been eighteen
NFL quarterbacks that have started all thirteen games this year.
There have been twenty that have started twelve or more,
and there have been twenty two that have started ten
or more. So that leaves just ten situations in which
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we would have even been exposed, you know, mathematically, to
having faced day backup quarterback. Now consider the Ford guy.
Four teams that have benched their quarterbacks, so they don't
count in this, you know, injury luck situation that we're describing.
The New York Giants, the New Orleans Saints, the Cleveland Browns,
the New York Jets, they just changed their quarterbacks. They
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didn't have anything would do with Russell having an injury,
or Justin Field's got called out by his owner that
he can't complete a pass. So those have just been
some benching. So now that just leaves one, two, three, four, five, six,
seven seven situations. And I say seven because there's one
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that takes the math a little bit over. But seven
injury situations out there that NFL teams have experienced. The
Arizona Cardinals, the Cincinnati Bengals, the Atlanta Falcons, the Washington Commanders,
the Minnesota Vikings, the San Francisco forty nine Ers, and
now the seventh and now the math comes out, Daniel Jones.
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The Seahawks have faced five of those teams this year.
Five of those quarterbacks backup quarterbacks this year, so there
have been seven injured quarterback situations more than just a
week or two in the National Football League, and the
Seahawks have managed to face five of those teams while
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their quarterback was out. The Cardinals, the Falcons, the Vikings.
Now Jadean Daniels did start and we were dominating them.
We probably shouldn't count that one because we were dominating
them even with Jaden Daniels, and then he got injured
during the game. But now the Indianapolis Colt, So let's
throw jad and Daniels out. But we faced four of
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the teams that have had injury situations this year in
the National Football leage, we've got to face their backup quarterback.
So even though historically it's not as dramatic as what
you and I thought in our heads, this year it
certainly has been dramatic how often the Seahawks have lucked out.
If you want to call it that and gotten to
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face the backup quarterback as opposed to the starter, and
it's huge. I mean if you think about all of
a sudden, we want all of them. Yeah yeah, if
you think, I mean, it is what it is, right.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I mean, there's other teams that end up getting you know,
it's not as important as the quarterback. I understand that.
But if you think losing your your your lockdown corner
the week before you have to go against you know,
a high, high flying offense, it has a great you
know receiver out there that can cost you a week.
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And yet to me, I mean obviously quarterback being the
most important position is crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
And we did lose our lockdown corner for a couple
of weeks.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah yeah, and you'd likely had you know enough the backup,
next man up type thing. Quarterback's a bigger drop off typically. Yeah, sure,
I think that that's We've talked about it for a
couple of years. When injuries happen, of boy, how important
should people you know have as their backup guy? I
mean the fact that having you know, a Jimmy Garoppolo
is your backup versus having a Riley Leonard might be
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a benefit to to some of these teams that choose
to go the younger route. So, but I think the
idea of when one of the big tie breakers obviously
you got your division record and your head to head,
but it's not very far down that list of who
you played, like your record against some common opponents, and
if you get to play a team that your you know,
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your division foe had to play when they were fully
healthy at the quarterback position, you get to go against
Max Brosner, that's a that's a big advantage and you
now they took advantage of it and they won whatever
twenty six to zero. So I don't know for sure
if JJ McCarthy would have made a hill of beans
worth a difference. But there's there's some times that some
teams beat San Francisco when it wasn't rock Party out there.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
We did face Brock Party.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yep. Yeah, that's the one you.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Did have to.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Yeah, we didn't.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Want to face Cincinnati without Joe Burrow, but everybody else,
Yeah we got to face them, yeah, and we want
them all. So I mean, look, I think the Seahawks
are very good. I don't think the ten and three
record is because they faced a slew of backup quarterbacks.
But if you were wondering, yeah, you know, if you
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win this week against the Indianapolis Colts, and I'm taking
jayd and Daniels out of this equation because we were
already dominating them. That's eleven wins and four of them
against backup quarterbacks. Twenty five percent of your wins this
year have been against backup quarterbacks. And well, actually more
than that, over forty percent of your wins have been
against backup quarterbacks so far this season. And even though
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I didn't do the math to the extent to find
out how much everybody else in the National Football League
has faced backup quarterbacks, but my guess is that did
give us a little bit of an advantage this year.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Well just look at the I mean, JJ McCarthy. I
don't think is the world beater necessarily, but the jury
is still out on how great he is. You get
his backup and they come in here, you beat him
twenty six to zero. He comes back to the game
last week and they beat the Commanders. Now they're not
good team, thirty one to zero. Right there, they shored
zero against you, and most credit goes to the Seattle defense.
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The next week, they go against a lesser team, but
they get the quarterback back and they win thirty one
to zero. That is the night and day difference between
that team. Even though I understand the difference between Seattle's
defense and Washington Commander's defense, it still is to not
be able to score versus score thirty one the next week,
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different different ballgame when you get your starter.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Out there across some breaks, for sure. Not gonna apologize,
don't feel bad. Yeah we're ten and three. Yeah, we
take on.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
All You can only win whoever you can only be,
whoever is out on the field in front of you.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
You can't have control over that.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
It ain't discounted. Ten and three is a legit ten
and three, but still facts are facts.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Seahawks take on all comers. That's right. It's not our
fault that the starting quarterbacks are scared of us. Yeah,
bring it, take it all right. Coming up next is
one famous donor to nil. Done with the process and
(27:54):
will others follow? We'll discuss the next Sports Radio ninety
three point three k A R F. M. Kill. Ashley
and I have been discussing for a while. At what
point are all of these people that are so excited
about giving money to eighteen year olds who may or
may not stay at their school forever, going to get
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tired of doing it? Well, guess what. One guy has
reached the boiling point after one attempt at giving money
to a player to come to his alma mater and
it not working out. Troy Aikman has had enough.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
I think there's got to be some leadership at the
very top that kind of cleans all of this up,
and starting with players that accept money, there's got to
be some accountability and responsibility on their behalf to have
to stick with a program. I gave money to a kid.
I won't mention who I've done it one time. Dot
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UCLA never met the young man.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
He was their year. He left after the year.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
I wrote a sizable check and he went to another school.
I didn't even get so much as a thank you note.
You know, so thank you. It's one of those deals
to where I'm done with Nil. I mean, I want
to see you silly be successful, but I'm done with him.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
And I think any reasonable person is going to draw
this conclusion when there are no guarantees that their investment
will stick around or even be grateful for the money
that they gave them. The problem I see is that
there's so much silly money in the world right now
that the next college football powers are just going to
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be the people who have a lums that have so
much money. I mean, Troy Aikman's got a lot of money,
but I would imagine a million dollar check to Troy
Aikman's like, oh boy, I wish I had that back.
There are some people that have so much money. What's
a million dollars to me?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Right?
Speaker 1 (29:46):
And if they take hold, I mean right now, Lane
Kiffin's trying to get to LSU and Kaitlin de Moore
had to get to Alabama. Are we sure in this
new era that those are going to be the powers
of the future? Because Texas Tech and Indiana turned things
around in one season, one off season of transfer portal recruiting, right,
(30:10):
And so are we sure that the powers that people
are trying to get to are going to be the powers?
Because I have a feeling that unless things radically change,
the powers are going to be the people who have
a lums, who have the silliest amounts of money.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Yeah, and you're right. And a former NFL quarterback back
in the day, I mean he wouldn't making anything like
what they make nowadays. But a guy back in the
day doesn't compete with like an oil money guy.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
An oil money or a Bezos a town slash state
full of oil money guys, right, I mean imagine, I
mean Alabama can't compete with Texas Tech. They can't compete
with Lubbock, Texas in terms of you know how many
billionaires that they have in the state.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Imagine getting a group of the billionaires together like lead
boys being they know what they're playing with, right, they
can put together.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yet SMU is SMU the future power is San Jose State.
I mean, that's the home of the most multi millionaires
in America.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Even the people though with the bajillions of dollars didn't
get there because they spent their money, you know, stupidly,
right they So I think if they're not seeing a
return on their investment and those players still continue to leave,
they're going to eventually be like, well, this is what's
this doing for me?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I think so. But those Texas Tech oil people have
seen an immediate return on their investment. They're now in
the college football Playoff. They got one of the top
four teams. Do you why how long it'll last. BYU
right now has one of the top football teams and
basketball teams in the country. And there's a reason for it.
(31:47):
Church wants to win. Church wants to win bad. Those
Mormons are competitive, and they are. They went out and
got the number one high school recruit in America to
come to BYU, and that kid's not Mormon, right, And.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
YSA just jumped into the whole frame too. Utah just
hired some crazy like a financial firm to take over
everything that is back, everything that is marketable in the
in the whole thing. I mean, so the entire thing
is going to be run by a firm now.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yeah, and I know crazy. They've introduced some restrictions on
what you can spend and so we'll see if that
takes hold in the future years. And maybe it does
balance things out, and maybe it doesn't turn into the
world that I'm describing for you. But certainly, any right
minded thinking person, and I give Troy Aikman credit for
(32:43):
being one of those, is writing a check for half
a million dollars, whatever the case may be, and watches
the kid leave and go join another program one year later,
and he got one win out of him. Yeah, two
wins out of him. Nobody's going to continue that habit.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Well, in first, they tried to get the fans to
take care of it, all right.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
And I don't want that to happen anymore.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Well, and it didn't work, so then they did this
and this. I just don't see it. None of its sustainable.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Don't take your kids lunch money and put it toward
one college player, please, Yeah, you know, gamble it like
normal people do that.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
He was kidding, all right.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Coming up next, it's Humpday, and normally we spend Humpday
sizing up the Seahawks next opponent. But the only topic,
it seems, is Philip Rivers. So we're going to make
next segment about the Colts and not about Philip Rivers.
Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM
Yeah, sorry, run a little bit late here going into
the eight o'clock hour. But look, solving college football takes time, right,
the people overnight. Obviously, it's taking the people in charge
one hundred years and they're still not there.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Right. We just didn't in like six minutes.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Maybe yeah, maybe we went eight sorry Rich Moore sorry, ps, Yeah,
but we did solve it at least.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, you're gonna get good ratings for that. Yeah, yeah,
I mean we could just take some of the commercials out.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
I mean, yeah, anyway, we solved college football. Chris Peterson
challenged me to do it earlier this week when we
had him on. Remember that when he said he signing off,
he goes, good luck solving college football.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I took it as a challenge and I succeeded, coach,
So go ahead, take a listen.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
What have you done?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Try to poke holes in that? Yeah, buddy, buddy boy.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
He'll be like, oh, actually, you know what, Now he's
gonna go ticket. I've got to plan guys to sell
college football.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I would love that. I actually would love that. Yeah,
So give that a go, fancy pants. I hope he does.
Rick new Isil is our normal college football insider we
have him on every Tuesday at nine o'clock, and of
course we had him on yesterday, and it was I
always look forward to Coach. I know you talking to Coach.
I know you both do as well. But yesterday was
(01:34):
particularly interesting because of all the Washington State Cougar rumors
that are going on out there. And I didn't know,
I mean, I didn't even know if he would answer
the call. Frankly, I mean, when you got something going
like that, I mean, I think he would have told us, hey, guys,
I can't talk. And had he skipped yesterday, I think
(01:55):
we would have known something was going on and he
just couldn't talk about it. But he did answer the call.
He did come on with us, and he didn't back
away from any of the questions that Bucky and I
asked him yesterday. In case you missed it, and in
case you are quite interested in this story, we're going
to replace some of it for you now, just the
Koug part of our conversation with Coach yesterday here on
(02:19):
Chuck and Buck.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I have no idea. I have not spoken to anybody
from Washington State. There have been a number of alums
that I've talked to I've made a lot of friends
over my lifetime to Jack Thompson's of the world, the
Mark Rippins of the world, the Drew Bledsoe's of the world,
and I've always admired greatly how much they loved their school.
(02:41):
I mean, it is a it's a badge of honor
to be a kug and so there's no question that
there's great passion there. And I've made it clear that
I missed coach, There's no question about that. So if
an opportunity were present us up, I would certainly entertain it.
Have not talked to anybody at the school. These things
(03:03):
go by way of search, firms and touch, so I'll
check in with you later if I got any news,
but I don't have any today.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Okay, Well, then it sounds I mean that you kind
of pretty much answered it. I mean you you miss coaching,
so if the opportunity present itself, you would gladly take it.
Have If somebody here is hearing this from Wazoo right
now and says, well, we've heard about that, but we
didn't know for sure. If he's interested that you're interested
in going to Pullman.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yeah, I'd be interested. And the other thing that's kind
of attracted for me. And again, this would all have
to be you know, talked over, and I haven't had
that opportunity to talk to anybody. I'd love to coach
with my son and to have an opportunity for the
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two of us to collaborate in this kind of environment
and put together approach. I've said this new pac twelve
that is going to begin next year with eight schools
that all have state named after him. I can't believe
All State Insurance hasn't decided how to sponsor this thing
because it is all states. That new conference is really
(04:17):
exciting from a standpoint that you've got eight similarly resourced programs.
It isn't like there's just the elephants in this room
that are going to run the table, kind of like
James Madison is in the Sun Belt where they got
more money than everybody else. It sounds to me like
you've got eight schools at all have a chance to
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coach hard and recruit hard and a chance to win,
and that to me is appealing.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I'd love it for you. Of course, you still have
to come on with us every Tuesday at nine o'clock Tuesday. Yes, yes,
but I mean I envisioned a scenario, and I don't
want to make you uncomfortable. I envisioned a scenario where
you coach the Koogs for a few years and the
and eventually it's handed off to your son and he
becomes a staple there. I don't know's that's what as
(05:05):
in my mind is is that anything that you I mean,
are you entertaining that as well? I mean not just
working with your son, but maybe the new Heisel stamp
gets put on that program for years to come.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
So the old saying in the country song you want
to hear God laugh, tell them your plans, right? So yeah,
I don't. I don't think we can put the cart
too far before the horse.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
I know this.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I've loved college football and I miss it and the
relationships daily. I get a heaping hunk of it doing
what I do, and I love coming on with you guys.
I love the CBS gig that I've enjoyed. Now this
is my eleventh year. But if I'm going to make
(05:53):
a run to coach one more time, the clock is ticking.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Right.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
You can all see Marissa Tomay banging her foot on
the my cousin Benny porch There So if it were
to be, I think I'd be really excited about it.
If not, I certainly understand.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Rick new Isel with us yesterday. If you want to
hear the entire conversation, and we do get into the
college football playoff picture and many other topics. It's good
twenty minutes with Coach new Isel yesterday. Check that out
at ninety three three kjar dot com. But certainly that
was a Newsworthy noteworthy yesterday Coach new Isel and I
asked him point blank, are you going to be the
(06:32):
next head coach of the Washington State Cougar. So we
got it out there yesterday. Look, I realized there's a
little bit of hesitation from koog fans. I mean, you
know that guy's bled Washington Purple in the past. Even
if it's not Coach new Heiseel, it does make sense
to get to me, to get somebody like coach new Heisl.
(06:54):
I mean this idea of finding some young guy that
will be the program forever. You know what young guys
want to do, keep climbing the corporate ladder, and even
though they say all the right things, when they take
over the program, this is where I want to be.
If they're great. There's a place that they want to
(07:15):
be more, especially now, more now than ever. You're in
a group of five program right now. I mean you're
not even you're Jimmy Rogers. Yeah you're not. Yeah, exactly,
that's what I'm referencing. I mean, that's the program that
you are. You're yes, you're still in the PAC twelve,
but you're not a big program anymore. And so you
(07:36):
can keep trying to find that guy that you can
grow old with and think that it's possible. And I'm
not saying it's impossible, but isn't it far more realistic
to take somebody that has gone through the paces, that
has been around the program. Is dedicated in his love
to college football, to college athletics, to West Coast football,
(08:00):
and even though he wore the Washington Husky colors at
one point, he's coming in here not looking to climb
the corporate ladder. He thinks he's got more coaching, he
thinks he's got more impact. He misses that loves the
state of Washington, loves West Coast football, wants to get
back into the mix before he is too old. And oh,
by the way, just happens to have a doppel ganger
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son who's just getting started, is a hot name in
the business right now, and might hand the program off
to him when he's done. If Jerry falls in love
with Pullman, maybe that's your young coach of the future.
But to me, it just makes more sense right now
to find the guy that wants to give his last
(08:45):
last talents and coaching to one more project more than
it does to find the next hot offensive coordinator that,
as soon as he has a great year, is taking
a better job the following season.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah, it's a great point to bring up, Chuck. I
think the idea because Wazu, I mean, we were talking
this season about Jed Fish and whether or not he
was essentially going to be using you dub as a
jump off point to something that was better. So and
you Dub is a legitimate program in the Big ten,
(09:20):
right and yet Wazoo unfortunately has found themselves in a
collapsed conference at this point, waiting to figure out what
is going to happen with all the realignment. So yeah,
in a Power five situation where it doesn't matter who
you get, Wazoo job is big enough. The program itself
is big enough that if you can run it and
(09:42):
then you show signs that you can do pretty good
stuff with less than talent because you aren't going to
get the best talent because of where you're playing in
the amount of exposure they're gonna get. So if you
can show that you can do well with what you got,
then another big team when they have to move on
from their coach for whatever reason, is gonna come you.
They're gonna come take you away. So the idea of
(10:02):
going with Rick new Heiseel, to me, almost lends you
a twofold aspect because he's going to bring his son.
He would love to bring his son. His son would
coach with him underneath, and now all of a sudden
it's like, hey, when I'm gone, that's who gets it.
And now he gets to kind of learn under his
dad like he's and then kind of take that chair
(10:24):
when his dad steps aside. That would be your best
opportunity to possibly get somebody that falls in love with
it over the course of be in the OC, and
then the head coach and then falls in love with
the polouse enough that he's like, I'm cool with being
this dude here forever. And yet even that's far fetched.
But I think it's your best chance at it, your
best chance at long term a longevity thing, and not
(10:46):
just having somebody use you as a stepping stone. The
Rick new Heisel, the new Heiseel plan is a pretty
good one in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
And who knows, maybe he's got ten years left in him. Yeah,
you know, I don't think though, that he would be
coming in there. I don't think Rick new ISIL's even entertaining.
He referenced Marissa Tome, you know, you know, sitting there
tapping his foot, waiting for his opportunity. That character, that
Marissa Tome character didn't think she was going to be
the next head coach at Alabama if she has a
(11:14):
ten and two season at Washington State. I don't think
that Rick new ISELI even entertains that he would love
to jump in to this size of a program, this
type of a project. He knows Pullman wants to live there.
I mean, those are the criteria I would be looking
for if I were Washington.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Absolutely, I think it would be a great fit.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
And I think the idea that yeah, you get Jerry
to grow up and you know, hone his coaching chops
on the police just makes him love it. More. And
I don't think we're in this era of college football
where anything is permanent anymore. Yeah, but I think this
is about as sure thing of a long run that
you could have if you went with these two.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah. And then it doesn't mean that if Jerry took
over and he's he's a very young man. Yeah, Like
if he took over and he had a great year
the very first year or the first couple of years,
he's probably leaving two.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
But you've still got what eight six years that you
could get out of the two of them.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah. Yeah, even if he leaves after year number two
and you give Rick five, that's seven years. That's a
longer run.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Then it's better than the one or two year runs
that they're on right now.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
That's right, and you get Yeah, you build that consistency,
which especially with the smaller programs, that consistency is what's
going to help you and in the recruiting and in
you know, just in terms of having your program become
more successful. That's part of their problems. They can't keep
a coach right now, and it's everyone thinks it's a
stepping stone. So if you get those coaches who want
to be there, then they're going to sell that to
the kids.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
And I don't think you should even be all that upset.
I mean, be upset that you're not one of the
Power five anymore or Power four anymore. But I mean
you can be upset for that as a Koog fan
for the rest of your life. But it's almost like
everybody gets used as a stepping stone. But Ole miss
got used as a stepping stone for goodness sake. You know,
(13:01):
Washington got used as a stepping stone. Yeah. Yeah, So
it's it's until somebody reaches the highest rung in their minds.
I mean, everybody's getting used right now. In college athletics,
everybody's out for themselves. I mean there's no sure thing,
(13:21):
but a short erer thing is probably getting that coach
who's got a good five years left in him that's
been around the block of time or two and is
no longer fantasizing that he's going to be the next
head coach of the New York Giants, right, And that's
Rick new Isiel. So I mean, there are other guys
that we could discuss, but he wants the job, and
(13:43):
we like coach, and even if it costs us a
nine o'clock excellent segment every Tuesday. I'd be really happy
for him, and I'd be happy for Kug fans. I
think it makes a lot of sense, even though I
know a lot of koog fans bristle at the thought
of hiring a former udub ed coach.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah, I get it, But at the same time, I
think you probably shouldn't necessarily let that get in the way.
To me, it boils down to, yes, you have a
guy that's been around the block, that knows this stuff,
who's chomping at the bit to get back into the
coaching ranks. If you give him the opportunity. It's not
just that you're getting somebody that knows what he's doing. Uh,
(14:20):
that's gonna come in there and put the last bit
of his heart and soul into your program. You're not
gonna come in there and give you half asked because
he used to have a He's going to come in
there and just show that he's always respected the Kugs
and the respected the program they have and he wants
to add to it. But it's the double way. It's
the double new Heisel effect. It's it's the new Heidel squared,
(14:41):
where you do now have us you have a chance
of getting his son to fall in love with Cougar
Gold over the course of however long that he's you
know that he's cheese. Yes, all of a sudden he's saying,
now he gets the job after five years. And then
he does that, and he continues growing the program at
(15:02):
whatever level they're at. Now a sudden, you have six, seven,
eight years with this new Heiel, the new Heiseel squared program.
And yeah, now his kids in school, he can't have
you know, can't eat a meal without Cougar Gold cheese.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
And you got him.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Maybe he sticks around here just like this is where
I want to be.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, I mean he's getting ready to have children. I
mean it's got to be a little bit impactful to
have to want to keep them where they were born
and raised and started school. And you've got an opportunity
to do that. Yeah, you know, and maybe you do
lock him up. Maybe maybe the new Isel name does
become synonymous with Kook's football going forward, the new era
(15:39):
of Kook's football going forward. But anyway, I'm not trying
to convince anybody out there listening of it, no, you
really need to do this, But I think it sounds
like a good idea for the program, and I think
it'd be great for coach all right, coming up next
Seahawks quarterbacks that they faced over the years, like there's
(16:01):
a little bit of luck of facing backups more often
than everybody else. Well, I've decided I'm tired of wondering
if that's true. I did the research. We'll talk about
it next. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah, sounds so weird, sounds helpful on the.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Hall of Fame ballot. Five years removed from the National
Football League, and yet so desperate are they that they
have signed him this week, Philip Rivers has signed with
the Indianapolis Colts on their practice squad. Greg Bell has
given us twenty four hours of thought, and earlier this
morning told us that he's feeling like they're going to
(16:41):
start Philip Rivers. I don't think it's going to happen,
but I do believe, especially if Riley Leonard can't go
because of injury. I mean, he's gonna have to be activated.
He's gonna have to be your backup. I mean, so
Brett Rippin gets off the practice squad, he starts in
the game. But now you're one injury from Philip Rivers playing.
(17:01):
So I think there's a chance that he plays on Sunday,
which is miraculous enough. But it's hard for me to
believe that he goes from five years coaching high school football,
no matter what good of shape that he's in, getting
activated or getting signed on a Tuesday, getting to the
practice field on a Wednesday, and he's ready to face
Mike McDonald's defense as a starter on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
No chance, right, I mean, I don't think. I think
it's no chance of him being successful in it. But
I don't think there's no chance. I mean, I think
the wane of Okay pros and cons our starter just
went out while we're in the middle of a downward
spiral as a team. Torres Akielles so he ringing Riley Leonard.
They probably feel okay about that, right, He's a young kid. Okay, well,
(17:49):
see what he can do, and it wasn't all that bad.
But then he hurts his knee. If he's healthy enough
to go, that's who's going. If he's not, I don't
think it's far fetched to think that it's that you
go with Philip Rivers over Brett Rippon because I get it.
I mean, it's because it's five years out, but it's
(18:10):
they they did a workout and they like the fact
that he can make the throws. He's obviously not incapable
of making the throws. I was reading an article talking
about you know something that Greg ended up bringing up,
but I had read it yesterday about how familiar he
is with it. And it's not just because he runs
it in his high school. It's because he spent six
years with Shane Stikeen with the Chargers and one with
(18:34):
the one with the Colts, and so to me, it's
he understands what it is that they're supposed to do.
That to me is more he I'll bet you, even
though he hasn't been in an NFL locker room in
five years, he understands how this is supposed to be
run better than your your scout team quarterback does. It's
just he They also said, he doesn't think they don't
(18:55):
think he's in shape for football, like the plane shape
that you have to be. Okay, so you can throw
against air, but how can you run around? And do
you want to put him at risk of doing it?
That's where it starts to weigh in. But to me,
I mean, I'm actually leaning more towards If Riley Leonard
isn't ready to go, I think your second string, your
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next guy is probably Philibrits.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Well, they adjusted their practice schedule too. They now they're
practicing Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. They usually don't, apparently.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
So it seems to me that the Seahawks have faced
a lot of backup quarterbacks this year. But Bucky and
I have talked off the air, it seems like it
happens a lot, not just this year, but year after year. Well,
I looked it up. I actually did a little bit
of digging on this, and it's not nearly as dramatic
(19:46):
as you would think, or that you and I thought.
I think this stems from that twenty nineteen season where
Mason Rudolph, Teddy Bridgewater, Matt Shaub for Matt Ryan, Kyle
Allen we faced for the Carolina Panthers. In twenty nine.
It was just a list of them, and I think
maybe that has tainted our thoughts because it hasn't been
(20:06):
that dramatic. I'll just go back the last three years.
Twenty twenty four, the only two Skyler Thompson and week
number three and oh By the way, Ashley thinks we
lose to backup quarterbacks all the time. We don't. That's
also a little bit of a misnomer. Yeah we did.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
It did feel like we were for a while.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah. Well, we won against Skyler Thompson. Boy he was terrible. Yeah,
he was really better. And then we won against Jimmy
Garoppolo and he didn't start because of injury, started because
he played the last game of the year because they
were saving Stafford for the playoffs. Yeah. And so we
only faced two backup quarterbacks last year and won them both.
Twenty twenty three, only two PJ. Walker in Week eight
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for the Cleveland Browns and Josh Dobbs in Week seven
for the Arizona Cardinals, won them both.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Well, the year we played Cole McCoy, that's the one
I'm thinking of.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I think it was like twenty I think there was
like nineteen seventy four. And then in twenty twenty two,
just two again, Mike White of the New York Jets
and John Wolford of the Los Angeles Rams and won
them both. So certainly I've had a pretty good record
in recent years against backup quarterbacks, but we haven't faced
nearly as many as what you and I thought that
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they were facing until this year. There have been eighteen
NFL quarterbacks that have started all thirteen games this year.
There have been twenty that have started twelve or more,
and there have been twenty two that have started ten
or more. So that leaves just ten situations in which
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we would have even been exposed, you know, mathematically, to
having faced day backup quarterback. Now consider the Ford guy.
Four teams that have benched their quarterbacks, so they don't
count in this, you know, injury luck situation that we're describing.
The New York Giants, the New Orleans Saints, the Cleveland Browns,
the New York Jets, they just changed their quarterbacks. They
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didn't have anything would do with Russell having an injury,
or Justin Field's got called out by his owner that
he can't complete a pass. So those have just been
some benching. So now that just leaves one, two, three, four, five, six,
seven seven situations. And I say seven because there's one
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that takes the math a little bit over. But seven
injury situations out there that NFL teams have experienced. The
Arizona Cardinals, the Cincinnati Bengals, the Atlanta Falcons, the Washington Commanders,
the Minnesota Vikings, the San Francisco forty nine Ers, and
now the seventh and now the math comes out, Daniel Jones.
(22:45):
The Seahawks have faced five of those teams this year.
Five of those quarterbacks backup quarterbacks this year, so there
have been seven injured quarterback situations more than just a
week or two in the National Football League, and the
Seahawks have managed to face five of those teams while
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their quarterback was out. The Cardinals, the Falcons, the Vikings.
Now Jadean Daniels did start and we were dominating them.
We probably shouldn't count that one because we were dominating
them even with Jaden Daniels, and then he got injured
during the game. But now the Indianapolis Colt, So let's
throw jad and Daniels out. But we faced four of
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the teams that have had injury situations this year in
the National Football leage, we've got to face their backup quarterback.
So even though historically it's not as dramatic as what
you and I thought in our heads, this year it
certainly has been dramatic how often the Seahawks have lucked out.
If you want to call it that and gotten to
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face the backup quarterback as opposed to the starter, and
it's huge. I mean if you think about all of
a sudden, we want all of them. Yeah yeah, if
you think, I mean, it is what it is, right.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I mean, there's other teams that end up getting you know,
it's not as important as the quarterback. I understand that.
But if you think losing your your your lockdown corner
the week before you have to go against you know,
a high, high flying offense, it has a great you
know receiver out there that can cost you a week.
(24:19):
And yet to me, I mean obviously quarterback being the
most important position is crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
And we did lose our lockdown corner for a couple
of weeks.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah yeah, and you'd likely had you know enough the backup,
next man up type thing. Quarterback's a bigger drop off typically. Yeah, sure,
I think that that's We've talked about it for a
couple of years. When injuries happen, of boy, how important
should people you know have as their backup guy? I
mean the fact that having you know, a Jimmy Garoppolo
is your backup versus having a Riley Leonard might be
(24:48):
a benefit to to some of these teams that choose
to go the younger route. So, but I think the
idea of when one of the big tie breakers obviously
you got your division record and your head to head,
but it's not very far down that list of who
you played, like your record against some common opponents, and
if you get to play a team that your you know,
(25:09):
your division foe had to play when they were fully
healthy at the quarterback position, you get to go against
Max Brosner, that's a that's a big advantage and you
now they took advantage of it and they won whatever
twenty six to zero. So I don't know for sure
if JJ McCarthy would have made a hill of beans
worth a difference. But there's there's some times that some
teams beat San Francisco when it wasn't rock Party out there.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
We did face Brock Party.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yep. Yeah, that's the one you.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Did have to.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Yeah, we didn't.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Want to face Cincinnati without Joe Burrow, but everybody else,
Yeah we got to face them, yeah, and we want
them all. So I mean, look, I think the Seahawks
are very good. I don't think the ten and three
record is because they faced a slew of backup quarterbacks.
But if you were wondering, yeah, you know, if you
(25:58):
win this week against the Indianapolis Colts, and I'm taking
jayd and Daniels out of this equation because we were
already dominating them. That's eleven wins and four of them
against backup quarterbacks. Twenty five percent of your wins this
year have been against backup quarterbacks. And well, actually more
than that, over forty percent of your wins have been
against backup quarterbacks so far this season. And even though
(26:20):
I didn't do the math to the extent to find
out how much everybody else in the National Football League
has faced backup quarterbacks, but my guess is that did
give us a little bit of an advantage this year.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Well just look at the I mean, JJ McCarthy. I
don't think is the world beater necessarily, but the jury
is still out on how great he is. You get
his backup and they come in here, you beat him
twenty six to zero. He comes back to the game
last week and they beat the Commanders. Now they're not
good team, thirty one to zero. Right there, they shored
zero against you, and most credit goes to the Seattle defense.
(26:53):
The next week, they go against a lesser team, but
they get the quarterback back and they win thirty one
to zero. That is the night and day difference between
that team. Even though I understand the difference between Seattle's
defense and Washington Commander's defense, it still is to not
be able to score versus score thirty one the next week,
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different different ballgame when you get your starter.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Out there across some breaks, for sure. Not gonna apologize,
don't feel bad. Yeah we're ten and three. Yeah, we
take on.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
All You can only win whoever you can only be,
whoever is out on the field in front of you.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
You can't have control over that.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
It ain't discounted. Ten and three is a legit ten
and three, but still facts are facts.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Seahawks take on all comers. That's right. It's not our
fault that the starting quarterbacks are scared of us. Yeah,
bring it, take it all right. Coming up next is
one famous donor to nil. Done with the process and
(27:54):
will others follow? We'll discuss the next Sports Radio ninety
three point three k A R F. M. Kill. Ashley
and I have been discussing for a while. At what
point are all of these people that are so excited
about giving money to eighteen year olds who may or
may not stay at their school forever, going to get
(28:16):
tired of doing it? Well, guess what. One guy has
reached the boiling point after one attempt at giving money
to a player to come to his alma mater and
it not working out. Troy Aikman has had enough.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
I think there's got to be some leadership at the
very top that kind of cleans all of this up,
and starting with players that accept money, there's got to
be some accountability and responsibility on their behalf to have
to stick with a program. I gave money to a kid.
I won't mention who I've done it one time. Dot
(28:52):
UCLA never met the young man.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
He was their year. He left after the year.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
I wrote a sizable check and he went to another school.
I didn't even get so much as a thank you note.
You know, so thank you. It's one of those deals
to where I'm done with Nil. I mean, I want
to see you silly be successful, but I'm done with him.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
And I think any reasonable person is going to draw
this conclusion when there are no guarantees that their investment
will stick around or even be grateful for the money
that they gave them. The problem I see is that
there's so much silly money in the world right now
that the next college football powers are just going to
(29:32):
be the people who have a lums that have so
much money. I mean, Troy Aikman's got a lot of money,
but I would imagine a million dollar check to Troy
Aikman's like, oh boy, I wish I had that back.
There are some people that have so much money. What's
a million dollars to me?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Right?
Speaker 1 (29:46):
And if they take hold, I mean right now, Lane
Kiffin's trying to get to LSU and Kaitlin de Moore
had to get to Alabama. Are we sure in this
new era that those are going to be the powers
of the future? Because Texas Tech and Indiana turned things
around in one season, one off season of transfer portal recruiting, right,
(30:10):
And so are we sure that the powers that people
are trying to get to are going to be the powers?
Because I have a feeling that unless things radically change,
the powers are going to be the people who have
a lums, who have the silliest amounts of money.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Yeah, and you're right. And a former NFL quarterback back
in the day, I mean he wouldn't making anything like
what they make nowadays. But a guy back in the
day doesn't compete with like an oil money guy.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
An oil money or a Bezos a town slash state
full of oil money guys, right, I mean imagine, I
mean Alabama can't compete with Texas Tech. They can't compete
with Lubbock, Texas in terms of you know how many
billionaires that they have in the state.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Imagine getting a group of the billionaires together like lead
boys being they know what they're playing with, right, they
can put together.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yet SMU is SMU the future power is San Jose State.
I mean, that's the home of the most multi millionaires
in America.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Even the people though with the bajillions of dollars didn't
get there because they spent their money, you know, stupidly,
right they So I think if they're not seeing a
return on their investment and those players still continue to leave,
they're going to eventually be like, well, this is what's
this doing for me?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I think so. But those Texas Tech oil people have
seen an immediate return on their investment. They're now in
the college football Playoff. They got one of the top
four teams. Do you why how long it'll last. BYU
right now has one of the top football teams and
basketball teams in the country. And there's a reason for it.
(31:47):
Church wants to win. Church wants to win bad. Those
Mormons are competitive, and they are. They went out and
got the number one high school recruit in America to
come to BYU, and that kid's not Mormon, right, And.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
YSA just jumped into the whole frame too. Utah just
hired some crazy like a financial firm to take over
everything that is back, everything that is marketable in the
in the whole thing. I mean, so the entire thing
is going to be run by a firm now.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yeah, and I know crazy. They've introduced some restrictions on
what you can spend and so we'll see if that
takes hold in the future years. And maybe it does
balance things out, and maybe it doesn't turn into the
world that I'm describing for you. But certainly, any right
minded thinking person, and I give Troy Aikman credit for
(32:43):
being one of those, is writing a check for half
a million dollars, whatever the case may be, and watches
the kid leave and go join another program one year later,
and he got one win out of him. Yeah, two
wins out of him. Nobody's going to continue that habit.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Well, in first, they tried to get the fans to
take care of it, all right.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
And I don't want that to happen anymore.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Well, and it didn't work, so then they did this
and this. I just don't see it. None of its sustainable.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Don't take your kids lunch money and put it toward
one college player, please, Yeah, you know, gamble it like
normal people do that.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
He was kidding, all right.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Coming up next, it's Humpday, and normally we spend Humpday
sizing up the Seahawks next opponent. But the only topic,
it seems, is Philip Rivers. So we're going to make
next segment about the Colts and not about Philip Rivers.
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