Headlines and 12th Man news with GREGG BELL (Tacoma News Tribune) Gregg joins us live from Baltimore ahead of the Army-Navy game! Is Phillip Rivers really going to start on Sunday? Can the Seahawks defense contain Jonathan Taylor? Will Rivers just hand the ball off and play it safe and can the Colts afford that? The Colts defense is still a concern for Sam Darnold and the Seahawks offense. :30- Oh look at that! Somehow Notre Dame has made themselves even MORE unlikeable! :45- We’ve been talking so much about Phillip Rivers return, so what’s the 2nd most interesting thing about the Seahawks/Colts matchup?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Zane Gonzalez. He zinged a ball on the right upright
to beat Tampa Bay with Washington last year, this very same.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Bucks team trying to.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Cling to first place and Zane Gonzalez hoping to do
it to him again. He won it with the Commanders
here last year against Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Officially forty three from the left pass mark.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Sane Gonzalez in a two point game.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
On the approach, he drives it.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
It's on the way and it is gone inside the
left up right that Lena comes all the way back
to sink Tampa Bay twenty nine twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Your final score, Oh man, what a mad loss for
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Jason Benetti Kyle Rudolph on the
call west Wood one last night Thursday Night Football, The
Tampa Bay Buccaneers lose to the Atlanta Falcons twenty nine
to twenty eight. They fall out of first place in
their division. They are really struggling right now, and Atlanta
(01:09):
seemed to be struggling more. They blew a two touchdown lead,
and Todd Bowles, who I've never even heard cuss, had
a rant after the game where in about a twenty
seconds clip cussed. I think fifteen times seven F bombs.
I know that was that, right? Yeah? Yeah, other bad word? Yeah,
more bad words from Todd Bowles. Pottymouth wasn't happy. They
(01:33):
said what do you say to your logger room?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
And he went off. He went nothing else to say, yeah,
other than all those F words. So probably wasn't a
good postgame speech. I would say, maybe we'll play that
in the ohow.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Of course that's a lot of work for Ashley bleep
out all the pottymouth talk. Anyway, I'm up for a challenge.
Week number fifteen to the National Football League season is underway.
How going to schedule this week? Really good again? Chargers
of Chiefs, Bills, Patriots. You've got green Bay at Denver,
You've got Detroit at the Rams, and then of course
(02:06):
you've got Indianapolis at Seattle. More on that matchup. The
Philip Rivers show coming up with Greg Bell here in
about two minutes. But let me rip through your other
frost brewed course like choos chill headlines here on a
football Friday, A very interesting day in college football. You've
got Army Navy getting it started. That's going to be
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at noon. Then you got the Heisman Trophy ceremony at
four o'clock. Fernando Mendoza expected to win it, but it
doesn't sound like it's a slam dunk. Diego Povey is
getting an awful lot of love leading up the Heisman week.
So we'll see. We got an upset on our hands
tomorrow night from New York. And then the bowl season
gets underway tomorrow as well, and it's the Huskies that
(02:49):
will be playing to start the bowl season. They'll be
in Los Angeles the LA Bowl against Boise State and
that game will start at five o'clock. Charon More is
expected to get a day in court today. He's been
detained in jail ever since his arrest, ever since his firing.
What a day for Sharon Moore that he had on Wednesday,
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and so he'll get his day in court today. And
of course he's been fired from his position at Michigan,
and the Michigan rumors for his replacement all involved people
that coached at Washington. Yeah. Yeah, fun's fun college basketball. Tomorrow,
you doub will take on Southern Utah at three o'clock.
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Gonzaga will take on UCLA tomorrow night. That'll be a
home game for the Zags and then on Sunday, the
Coogs will be in action against usc and that is
a four thirty game on Sunday, Crack and trying to
make it two straight victories. That is against the Mammoth tonight,
first time they faced the Mammoth as the Mammoth I believe,
And that'll be tonight. That game will take place in Utah.
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And if you haven't checked out the latest episode of
Stove with Airst and myself, we talk about all sorts
of good Mariner rumors and stuff on our podcast, so
make sure you check that out at ninety three to
three kjar dot com as well. So those are your
frost brewed cores Headlight. Let's talk to Greg Bell.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
With the Bell tolls.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
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Speaker 2 (04:37):
Fortunately for us we have Greg Bell on a lot
and yet the best Greg Bell version that we get
is today, because you never know what's going on when
Greg Bell is at the Army Navy Week with his buddies.
Sometimes I think that we've heard them singing in the
car driving down the road in the past. I mean,
(04:59):
we've had all so sorts of uh, we don't know
what your shenanigans on Friday morning of Army Navy Week.
So here we go. We're going to Baltimore the doctor,
Greg Mell. Who are you with right now?
Speaker 5 (05:13):
I'm actually with my son. We just my buddies and
I we just low crawled around Fort McHenry where the
our spangle banner was first introduced to America and for
written and yeah, we're doing a little bit every I've
been up for about five hours. How you guys moving?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Is that right? Low crawled?
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Like?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Is that like on your belly with your l walking
with your looks.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Like constantina wire above your head, although they didn't have
the wire. But yeah, you don't use your feet, You
just use your elbows and your knees and your thighs.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
How far did you do this?
Speaker 5 (05:45):
They're on the perimeter of Fort McHenry. What is that?
Probably good? Three course a while?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I guess, yeah, I love that you get together with
your friends and your buddies and you do fun things
like low crawling.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
I think last year it was push ups or something.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, we've had pushouts in the past.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
Yeah, at the break happens.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
It's kind of it's fun to do in the dark
so the enemy can't see you. You get it. You
just don't do it broad daylight, right right, fair, that's
four am.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I'm tired just thinking about it. Yeah, we're gonna low
crawl around the studio. I'm during the break, just so
we feel like we're part of it.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
There's out there. I don't know what Fort McHenry is
in Baltimore right off the owner harbor. Check it out
and you see what I mean. There's a piece of
American history.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Did your son low crawl with you too?
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Hell yeah, college hosty soccer players. He could probably he's
six four, so the frame doesn't really blend itself to
low crawling. The best low crawling infantryment or not six
foot four, But the fact he may like one hundred
and ten pounds help he got around pretty well.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
That's awesome. Well, how good does the field to be
in Baltimore for this tomorrow?
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Yeah? You know, guys, I always give the same type
of speel about the Army Navy game, but now more
than ever, this is all pretty much major college football's
last true game. You don't have ni the two teams combined.
You know much niow money the Army Navy teams just combined,
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and zero cent for two hundred and ten players, one
hundred and five on each roster, all of whom except
by exception once a decade if they get a pro
sports exemption, all of whom are going to be in
the profession of arms, many of them six months from now.
This is real. They do it for us, They do
it for the country, They do it for the brothers,
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They do it for their alma mater. This is real.
They don't do it for nil. They don't will get
to the next place they can transfer to. The backup,
back up, backup quarterback isn't seeking the transfer because he
didn't play this year. That's not this and that's gone,
and college football is broke, and Oury Navy game ain't broken.
(08:02):
This is the last frontier of what college sports should
be about.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, that's that's great. Well, enjoy it all, soak it
all up and then hurry back to Seattle on Sunday
because you've got Colts Philip Rivers to cover.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
That was the most interesting NFL regular season game I've
done twenty three years in the NFL. I don't know
about regular season game. It's going to be more interesting
than watching a forty four year old grandpa come out
of five years of retirement three days and he's only
had three practices. Yeah, and I want to play, and
I keep thinking about his former Chargers team at tim
(08:39):
and Wiser till then Wednesday in Brenton. Hey, no way,
Philip Rivers is leaving ten kids, a grandkid and a
wife out of Alabama to get on a plane at
Christmas time five hours of Seattle to not play. He's
playing no matter what Ridley Leonards status is, and I'll
sign from Minneapolis's the Seahawks are going to get him
and Mike McDonalds coaching staff. Ever since the news broke
(09:02):
Tuesday that Philip Rivers was heading to Minneapolis for a tryout,
the Seawks defensive game plan has been about stopping Rivers. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Well, I mean, obviously it's the topic of the game.
And yet the facts are one team is heading upwards
and the other one has been heading downwards. I mean,
Seattle's outscored their last two opponents sixty three to nine.
I mean, is there anything that Philip Rivers can do
or is this flat out you stop Jonathan Taylor and
(09:30):
you have a runaway in here.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Yeah, well that's it, Bucky. What Philip Rivers can do
is hand the ball to Jonathan Taylor is the NFL's
leading rusher. He has the second most carries average nineteen
carries a game. I think he's going to have more
than nineteen carries in the rain in Seattle on Sunday.
And if Indianapolis can do with really no team including
the Rams and forty nine ers have done on the skuts,
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and that's run the ball early on early downs. If
they can do that and make Rivers this third down,
third two instead of third and ten, then the costs
to have a chance. But nobody yet has done that.
And the Seahawks have played from the front so often
this year while going ten to three, the teams have
often not even tried to run. Some of the reasons
the Seahawks are third or fourth in the league and
(10:15):
all the metrics for defense is because teams just don't
try them. Because they're done by two scores in the
first half. It's what happened in Atlanta Dejon Robinson at
sixty one yards at a halftime twenty four to the
rest of the game because they fell behind by multiple
scores after Rashida Deheed's chick return for a touchdown to
start with the second half. So can the Colts keep
Taylor producing to a level that Philip Rivers doesn't have
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to drop back forty times in long yardage to win?
Because I mean, come on, as great as Philip Rivers
is going to end up being in the Hall of
Fame how he has been, you can't expect him to
throw forty times in long yardage against any defense, especially
Mike McDonald's one of the best NFL defense is gone
right now to win. So that's where the Seahawks game
plan is su as Jonathan Taylor gun fits tackling. Mike
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McDonald made the point this week that Taylor is the
fastest running back they've played. He breaks tackles and he
gets away from you when you break the tackles. So
it's really key for Seattle. It's short tackling at the
line of scrimmage because this guy even more than DeShawn Robbinson.
He'll get away from you if you'll tackle.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah, I'm calling Mike McDonald's defense this week today's youth defense,
because no old man has ever been able to figure
out today's youth. So that's that's what i'm calling. So
(11:43):
it's the today's youth defense that they'll be facing. And look,
I mean, I said this is my key. I think
you only have to defend like three three yards of
defense of the trenches because you're going to stack the
box to stop Taylor and I think Philip Rivers is
probably going to try to survive on screen passes and
(12:06):
dump offs and things of that nature. I don't think
they're gonna be a lot of you know, five step
drops in this game on Sunday, and man, that is
to me, Greg, that's like throwing meat to a lion
here a den of lions. With the way the Seahawks
defense is playing right now.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Yeah, they they can't just do that. They will throw
the ball down the field because you have to in
today's NFL or else you're gonna get exactly what you're describing,
and it's going to be a route. It will not
surprise me for Rivers. Hughetok yesterday on our roundtable about
the weapons they have a pushing the ball down the field.
I think you're gonna do that, but again, if they
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can run the ball first to keep the Seahawks pastures
on us. But this is not just some old man
charity game. He's not coming back unless he thinks he
can be an NFL functioning quarterback, and the Coats wouldn't
put him out there. They lookton'll, let's be real. The
Colts rolled the dice first by taking Anthony Richardson high
(13:06):
in the draft and he hasn't panned out yet. Now
he's on injured reserve. Daniel Jones, they were in Charmed
Life with him. He was in the second NFL life
here at the beginning of the season when they were
seven and one. At that time, when they were seven
and one, they had no plan b. It was Daniel
Jones or bust. And now they're busted. And they didn't
before the deadline go trade for guys like Russell Wilson
(13:27):
or even maybe Joe Flacco and Cleveland guys veterans that
we could have been available. They didn't trade for them.
So now, unless you can convince a team to waive
a Wilson or Flacco, you can't get them. And that's
why they were in the situation they were in this
week because they didn't proactively plan for this. It was
Brett Riffen or hey, let's call Philip Rivers. So, I mean,
(13:51):
it's such a unique situation for sure, And it's not
like the Colt is just playing out the string. They
got a win to get in the playoffs. That's how
desperate this is. So I don't think going to see
robo quarterback tossing one yard. He's gonna have to push
the ball down the field to keep the Colts in
contention for the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Yeah, I'm with you, And I mean, ultimately this has
been a decent I'm pretty good. Actually the first eight
games of the season, the Colts defense was pretty decent.
Now they have some injuries and I'm not sure if
DeForest Buckner's coming back from the neck injury, that would
be one area that could cause some issues. I mean,
they're gonna need a little bit of help. If these
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two teams go out there both play a B game,
then it's going to be probably a lopside of victory.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
In the Seahawks favor.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
But I would think that defensively, what is it that
you could possibly see that the Colts could bring to
the table, because they're going to need some help or
some big plays, some turnover something from their defense to
try to force Sam Darnold into making a couple of mistakes.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
I would think, yeah, exactly. But they're going to turn
on the tape of the Minnesota game and they're gonna say, ah,
we're going to bring more pressure than we brought all season,
because let's make this quarter turn the ball over. Let's
get up some drive starts in the twenty yard line
like the Vikings did, And that's that's I I think
the Rams are gonna do it Thursday night. I think
the Panthers are gonna do it in week seventeen end.
(15:11):
I know the forty nine ers will do it in
Santa Clara and the season the pressure Donald, Let's see
if he'll turn the ball over. He's leading the league
and turnovers at sixteen. It's because his defense is so good.
And when he doesn't turn the ball over, Donald's been
so good at fishing throwing the ball down the fields
that they are ten and three. I submit that that
ain't gonna work against the Rams forty nine ers and
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then the playoffs. You turn the ball over, you loose.
That's the name of the game in the NFL playoffs.
So the Colts are going to try it force that.
The problem, of course, is that you mentioned Buckner has
a neck injury. He has practiced this week. The word
getting out of Indianapolis he is going to play. Sauce
Gardner is a bigger story than me. They traded two
first round picks for him. The all Pro cornerback is
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now hurt. He's got a cast issue. He hasn't practiced
all week. He may not play, and that's the guy
you've got to get you over the top defensively, and
he's not even gonna be on the field with the
season on the line. If Gardner doesn't play, Smith and
Jigg is going to have a chance to have a
huge day down the field. Even if it's rainy and
windy and Seattle and today and soft, Gardner in the lineup,
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he's a game changer. They would probably shadow Gardner with
Smith and Jig the entire game, least I would. But
if he's not in there, then you got zone and
catch up coverages and shell and we've seen what Smith
and Jigg has done to that all year.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Greg Bell is with us live from Baltimore. He and
Jessmone McIntyre will be hosting a show today. They're going
to be doing that. What is it night? Noon to three?
Is is that the time?
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Yes, sir? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Noon to three? Uh? Do we have a plan? Are
you guys winging it? And just you know, grabbing Roger
Stallbach as he comes by?
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Well, I would never grab brothers. I respect the hell
of him. He's a movie quarterback. After do you know?
You know Jessmon, he's so oh organized, he keeps us straight. Yeah,
we got a plan. We're going to talk to Nate Boyer,
the former Seahawks, the Green Beret who walked onto the
Texas team and made himself a football career after serving
in Iraq. We're going to talk to a former Army commander,
(17:15):
Company commander, Army ranger who was a Purple Heart recipient
wood warrior in combat who has now dedicated his life
to fixing veterans' health, quality of life, homelessness for veterans.
There are three million veterans who served in Iraq in
Afghanistan who were shot at who our country have left
(17:35):
behind and they don't have enough means to have homes
or food or attic quality of life. And we're going
to talk to the gentleman Zach Pleega, who was dedicating
his life to doing that. He just ran across the
country Forrest Gump style in a relay three thousand miles
from San Diego to Washington, DC onto the National Mall
to raise money for the awareness for veterans and the
(17:56):
plight of veterans and talk to him. We're gonna talk
to the Army and maybe athletic directors about the state
of college football or bowls going away and how they
are staying above the fray in the non nil academy world.
We'll probably talk to the Army, maybe play by play guys,
and tak the Mike Mayock Philadelphia boy and raised grew
up on this Army Navy game from a Raiders general manager,
(18:17):
longtime NFL scout, from a player himself. We'll talk to him.
A ton of people coming out and yeah, it it's
gonna be blasted. This is our favorite event. And if
you're around the radio, you'll learn something about football in
Americana and military life. From twelve to three.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Awesome. Look forward to it. And I won't even ask
you who's gonna win. Just tell me what the final
score will be.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Yeah, I appreciate that. Check you.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
Let's go.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Let's go twenty to seventeen. Maybe's good. Maybe he's eight
and nine and three Army twenty seventeen. Games supposed to
be dry, not too cold. We'll sing second tomorrow. I'll
be on the field Builtman Alma Mater second.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Tomorrow, watching that sloppy Navy drill team.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Yeah, this snoopy leading woodstock around the field. You will see.
It's just a bunch of amateur hours.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I kind of want to, but I'll I'll go ahead
and end it there. We'll have fun, have fun, uh
being there, have a blast. I know you look forward
to it so much every single year, so I want
you to just enjoy everything. And we'll talk to you
when we talk to you.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
I appreciate that. We'll talk to you Monday. I'll be home.
I land eleven o'clock the straightened stadium. Okay, sleep, Hey,
But a serious note, though, Buck, you hope you dry.
I hope everybody in Pacific Northwest drive. I flew out
of Seatach yesterday and was just shocked south of the
airport at everything that's underwater down there. Heart goes out
to everybody affected by that and hope we can get
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these rains turned off.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
No, I have a great all right, Greg, thank you.
That's our sex inside of Greg Bell from the News Tribune.
You can follow him at g bel Seattle. If you're
not it's a little foolish, might as well do it
now and he'll he'll do a lot of Army Navy
stuff here the next next couple of days, and of
course around the clock coverage available at the News Tribune
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Speaker 5 (20:42):
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Speaker 2 (20:51):
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Ashley Ryan, Bucky Jacobson. My name is Chuck Pewell. We
got you till ten o'clock here today. You know, I
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grew up in southern Illinois and there was a family
right down the road from the Wolf's and they had
nineteen children the Wolf's. Are you serious, I'm serious, that's
a lot. There was a normal name, but then they
just had a normal last name. The mom had litters
of children.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
Okay, yeah, the first name could have been like Tapioka.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Wolf was the Tappioka Wolf was the kid my age, yeah,
and Lannel and Wolf was my that's the that's a
girl's name. Obviously that was my sister's age. No, they
had normal names. They were not a normal family, but
obviously they were fertile.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Catholic.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
Okay, of surprise, yeah, Catholic.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
There were a lot of them, and no one else
in the community liked them. Oh, they were exactly like
Notre Dame. The wolf Pack as they were. I mean,
they were always trying to fight everybody, every kid except
the one in my class I got. I got the
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good one. Jamie was a sweetheart. But all the rest
of the wolf children, they were always trying to fight people.
They were always wronged. They were always being wronged at
all times. And it didn't put it together until this
week that basically they were Notre Dame and so already
not liked by the entire country of college football fans.
(22:47):
If you don't, if you're not a wolf, there's no
chance anyone else liked you, right, and so, and yet
they've had a really unpopular week this week, their reaction
to not being made included in the college football playoff.
I mean, there were boycotts of Ivan Mazell's book at
bookstores because Ivan Mazell is a sports writer who was
(23:10):
on the committee, and so they they took his books
off the shelves in South Bend. Oh, jeez, you know,
things like that. Obviously, we heard the egregious grousing from
Pete Levaqua their ad this week, and so a lot
of other ads have weighed in about how immature, how
(23:31):
Braddy he is acting for being left out of the tournament,
and then we found out Ashley told us in the
middle of a conversation, I didn't even know it, and
it turns out nobody knew it. Pete Levaqua announced on
Dan Patrick's show that we have a secret deal with
the committee going forward that we are included guaranteed if
(23:57):
we finished top twelve in the rankings from this year forward, guaranteed.
People did not know that. So there are programs all
over the country like, what are you talking about. Yeah,
you have a secret agreement, contractual agreement that if you're
in the top twelve, you're guaranteed in the every playoff
from this point forward. So from what I hear, Notre
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Dame programs are now like sharing information might start freezing
them out, Like try to get a top twelve ranking,
because we're not going to schedule you anymore. So try
to get a top twelve ranking beating up on Army, Navy,
the Citadel and whoever else you can get to play
(24:41):
you because we're not even going to schedule you anymore.
If you're going to act like you're not one of
us and they've acted like they're not one of us
their entire history. That's what they do.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
They're hated.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, that's why they are, and now they're this week,
they're more hated than they've ever been hated, and rightfully. So, yeah,
I meant, I get it.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
You felt like you got screwed over, and you know,
there's a legitimate argument that you probably are one of
the better teams in the country that deserves a shot
at in the tournament, but it's you didn't. Your resume
doesn't say unequivocally you're should be in. Absolutely, you ended
up losing to Miami. They ended up getting in. You don't.
(25:22):
So that's kind of there's a fairness to that to
some degree. There's a part of that that is an
argument that's a legitimate on the side of the Hurricanes
versus you. You had lost to Texas A and m
your second game, so you started out own too. Now
since then you rattled off nothing but w's. But because
you don't play in a conference, because you think you're
(25:42):
bigger than that, you're better. We wear gold helmets, were
the brand of all brands. Then you're some of your
victories fall on deaf ears, some of them are like, well,
you don't. You don't even come close to the resume
that Alabama. Now I agree that there's an argument about it.
Alabama shouldn't be in because of the way in which
they didn't show up in their conference championship game.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Strength of schedule doesn't compare to Alabama. The resume absolutely
compared well. But to me, that that's those are there's
a similarity, that those things correlate and there's a there's
a there's an overlap.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
They're not exactly the same, but yes, the strength of schedule,
which is part of your resume, part of the it
doesn't they're not even it's apples and oranges. You didn't
play even close to the same type of competition. So
had you been in the SEC, would you have not
dropped more games early in the season before you figured
(26:36):
out and got your footing and figured out how to
play the way you have down the stretch Because to me,
I mean, you know, the USC win, I guess is
a good win, but that's not a team that belongs
in the College Football Playoff either. Pitt was up in
that until they beat them. Pitt was kind of in
the conversation of he are they going to be a
team that squeaks in there. There really is no there's
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no signature win on their on their resume, and so
you act like a brat. Then there's a really good
chance that people are like, Okay, if they're going to
be petty, then we can be petty right back at them,
especially once we find out they got some loophole in
there that if we play them and they beat us,
that that might just be enough for them to get
into the top twelve and automatically in.
Speaker 8 (27:16):
I didn't think actually that it was possible for me
to dislike Notre Dame more. But they've done it, so congratulations.
But at the same time, none of it surprises me
because they always have felt like they're above everybody else,
I mean, and they've been treated like they're above everybody else.
It's not just Notre Dame came up with this whole
thing that they're, you know, the the brand and they're
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the best. It's that they have been supported by that
narrative for a long time and that they're very important
for college football, and so they use that importance to
their benefit, and in this case, that importance didn't help them,
and now they're angry about it.
Speaker 7 (27:54):
Well, it's helped them a lot in the past.
Speaker 8 (27:55):
So there's been other schools that have been left out
of things because Notre Dame and they're self importance made
it in.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
And now you know what it's like to be on
the other side pettiness.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I can live with a week of pettiness after you
got left out. I'm used to Notre Dame being petty. Yeah,
so that I can live with. And even if we
got a heavy dose of pettiness this week. Okay, some
heavy petty.
Speaker 8 (28:19):
I mean yeah, yeah, at that part, At that point
you kind of laugh at them. It's like, oh gosh,
here they go again.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
But I mean that wouldn't be unexpected. I don't even
think it is entirely out of bounds. I mean, think
about what Florida State did and they got they did
not make it in an undefeated season when we didn't
have a twelve team tournament, but think about what that
week was afterwards, So getting being the last being the
person left out. And I think that the committee did
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do them wrong, yeah, by leading them to believe that
they were safe and they were there, and then magically
when the time came to announce that they weren't there.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
Yeah, neither team plays and then suddenly they flip flopped checksnosense.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I can deal with a week of anger, I can
deal with a week of pettiness. But like the but
getting nasty, and then one of your problems is that
you're trying to act above and separate from the rest
of college football, and then you spent a week trying
to separate yourself further and trying to babe as if
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you're higher. I would hope there are lessons to be
learned here, because the alternative is I would hope they
join a conference because of this. I would hope that
they got knocked down a couple of pegs because of this,
because the alternative is you're going to be left out entirely.
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You can't run a college football program by yourself. You
don't have a conference, and if nobody will schedule you,
you know you're just going to have a club team.
At this point, you better start playing ball with all
the other kids.
Speaker 8 (29:57):
Well, and they started alienating the ACC too, for one
in Miami.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
In you better start playing ball with all the other
kids in the neighborhood or you're going to be left out,
or you're going to be diminished so greatly that you're
going to beg to get back in to play with
the kids and get invited to the parties. So I'll
give you a week, but you bet. I mean clandestine
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meetings and secret contracts that you have and nobody else has.
Nobody's going to play that game with you, So go
ahead and take your ball and go home. We got
plenty of balls, exactly, and we got plenty of kids,
So the sport does not need you. What do they
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always say that about an individual player? Know how, no
matter how great the player is, you're not bigger than
the game. No matter how great a program you are,
you're not even close to being as big as the
product as the college football world, and you were a
star player in it. But you are already trying to
separate yourself from everybody else, and you've had a week
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of acting like you're even bigger and better and more
important than we've ever let on. Yep, and it's gone.
It's backfired on you.
Speaker 7 (31:17):
Weird that they would screw it up.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
It's blowing up in your face. So I would hope
that you would recognize the scars, but they're not acting
it that way right now. That's for sure. All right,
Coming up next, what's the second most interesting thing about
the Colts Seahawks game? On Sunday Sports Radio ninety three
point three KJRFM. All Right, the O Joe comes your
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way at the top of the hour, your eight top
stories of the day here on this Friday, a chance
for you to recap the week and get you ready
for the weekend. We do it every Friday. It's the
Friday Oho. Of course, this has been a week of
a strange week of Seahawk talk because it's all revolved
around facing a forty four year old quarterback five years
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retired who's coming off the couch to play this Sunday
against the Seahawks. So it's hard not to talk about
that pretty much every segment for me. I mean, that's
how interesting this story is. Greg Bell said he's not
looked forward to a regular season game like this one
and his entire time covering the Seahawks because of just
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how fantastic the story is. I mean, it might end
up having a grim result, it might not be that
pretty on Sunday, but the story itself is just something
that we've never seen before. Kurt Warner told us that yesterday.
I can't tell you if he's going to succeed or
fail because we've never seen anyone try this before, and
yet Philip Rivers takes the field on Sunday. So that's
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without question the number one story, and it's been such
a dominant story. Have we even discussed what's the second
biggest story in this game? What's the second biggest story
in this game?
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Oh, I get to me, it probably would be can
Jonathan Taylor do enough to make it a game against
this defense? Would be the only I mean, because they
don't have a bunch of playmakers outside of that. So
it's still is connected to it's not completely separate of
Philip Rivers because to me, it's Jonathan Taylor. I would
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think the same thing if it was still Daniel Jones.
Now it's just obviously blown up to bigger proportions because
it's a forty four year old guy coming off the
couch essentially to try to lead the team at the
most important position. But to me, that would be if
we were talking about Daniel Jones still playing that, I
think it's a big topic we'd be talking about. Is
Jonathan Taylor, and I mean out of Christian McCaffrey is
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maybe a better back or is the only other one
I think that would be close to that. They're in
the same category that this Yawks defense is faced John
Robinson just last week.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah, I guess be Jehan Robinson.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Yeah, their team, Yeah, yeah, you're right. They shut him
down for the most part, I guess John Robinson talent wise.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
That's just it. Everything though, is connected to Philip Rivers.
It's Jonathan Taylor. Can Jonathan Taylor carry a team with
Philip Rivers at quarterback?
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Right?
Speaker 2 (34:21):
You know that's the second biggest story. What will Mike
McDonald's defense do do this week against a forty four
year old quarterback coming out of retirement. I mean, that's
that's that's in the conversation. I mean the only thing
actually that could possibly even get headlines that aren't going
to be attached to Philip Rivers on Sunday is if
a streaker comes out onto the field, that will be like,
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there's a chance a streaker will come out onto the field?
Is like the second biggest story heading into this game.
Speaker 8 (34:50):
I mean it sure seems like it, because yeah, everything
is so centered around this big unknown because it's not
even like as we've talked about. He hasn't been there
for weeks practicing.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
You're not seeing you know.
Speaker 8 (35:00):
Yesterday I saw a video that was him in practice
and it was like, oh, Philip Rivers attempts a long pass.
Speaker 7 (35:05):
It was twenty five yards. I would not consider that
a long pass. I was like, is there more to this? No,
that's it. That was Philip Rivers twenty five yard pass.
Speaker 8 (35:17):
I thought, well, yeah, he threw it, but I didn't
have a doubt he could throw it twenty five yards?
Speaker 7 (35:22):
Now can he do that with a defense running at him.
I worry about it and his health.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Yeah, well, it's gonna be a fascinating watch, there's no
question about it. And I know I'm on the extreme side.
I don't give him a chance to be successful. And
that has nothing to do against Philip Rivers. It's just
the aspect of what he's trying and attempting to do
just doesn't add up for me. Well, we'll get into
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it more with the Friday O Show. Certainly, it's one
of our top eight stories of the day, and it's
next it's Chuggunback. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM
Zane Gonzalez. He zinged a ball on the right upright
to beat Tampa Bay with Washington last year, this very same.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Bucks team trying to.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Cling to first place and Zane Gonzalez hoping to do
it to him again. He won it with the Commanders
here last year against Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Officially forty three from the left pass mark.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Sane Gonzalez in a two point game.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
On the approach, he drives it.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
It's on the way and it is gone inside the
left up right that Lena comes all the way back
to sink Tampa Bay twenty nine twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Your final score, Oh man, what a mad loss for
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Jason Benetti Kyle Rudolph on the
call west Wood one last night Thursday Night Football, The
Tampa Bay Buccaneers lose to the Atlanta Falcons twenty nine
to twenty eight. They fall out of first place in
their division. They are really struggling right now, and Atlanta
(01:09):
seemed to be struggling more. They blew a two touchdown lead,
and Todd Bowles, who I've never even heard cuss, had
a rant after the game where in about a twenty
seconds clip cussed. I think fifteen times seven F bombs.
I know that was that, right? Yeah? Yeah, other bad word? Yeah,
more bad words from Todd Bowles. Pottymouth wasn't happy. They
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said what do you say to your logger room?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
And he went off. He went nothing else to say, yeah,
other than all those F words. So probably wasn't a
good postgame speech. I would say, maybe we'll play that
in the ohow.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Of course that's a lot of work for Ashley bleep
out all the pottymouth talk. Anyway, I'm up for a challenge.
Week number fifteen to the National Football League season is underway.
How going to schedule this week? Really good again? Chargers
of Chiefs, Bills, Patriots. You've got green Bay at Denver,
You've got Detroit at the Rams, and then of course
(02:06):
you've got Indianapolis at Seattle. More on that matchup. The
Philip Rivers show coming up with Greg Bell here in
about two minutes. But let me rip through your other
frost brewed course like choos chill headlines here on a
football Friday, A very interesting day in college football. You've
got Army Navy getting it started. That's going to be
(02:27):
at noon. Then you got the Heisman Trophy ceremony at
four o'clock. Fernando Mendoza expected to win it, but it
doesn't sound like it's a slam dunk. Diego Povey is
getting an awful lot of love leading up the Heisman week.
So we'll see. We got an upset on our hands
tomorrow night from New York. And then the bowl season
gets underway tomorrow as well, and it's the Huskies that
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will be playing to start the bowl season. They'll be
in Los Angeles the LA Bowl against Boise State and
that game will start at five o'clock. Charon More is
expected to get a day in court today. He's been
detained in jail ever since his arrest, ever since his firing.
What a day for Sharon Moore that he had on Wednesday,
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and so he'll get his day in court today. And
of course he's been fired from his position at Michigan,
and the Michigan rumors for his replacement all involved people
that coached at Washington. Yeah. Yeah, fun's fun college basketball. Tomorrow,
you doub will take on Southern Utah at three o'clock.
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Gonzaga will take on UCLA tomorrow night. That'll be a
home game for the Zags and then on Sunday, the
Coogs will be in action against usc and that is
a four thirty game on Sunday, Crack and trying to
make it two straight victories. That is against the Mammoth tonight,
first time they faced the Mammoth as the Mammoth I believe,
And that'll be tonight. That game will take place in Utah.
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And if you haven't checked out the latest episode of
Stove with Airst and myself, we talk about all sorts
of good Mariner rumors and stuff on our podcast, so
make sure you check that out at ninety three to
three kjar dot com as well. So those are your
frost brewed cores Headlight. Let's talk to Greg Bell.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
With the Bell tolls.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
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Speaker 2 (04:37):
Fortunately for us we have Greg Bell on a lot
and yet the best Greg Bell version that we get
is today, because you never know what's going on when
Greg Bell is at the Army Navy Week with his buddies.
Sometimes I think that we've heard them singing in the
car driving down the road in the past. I mean,
(04:59):
we've had all so sorts of uh, we don't know
what your shenanigans on Friday morning of Army Navy Week.
So here we go. We're going to Baltimore the doctor,
Greg Mell. Who are you with right now?
Speaker 5 (05:13):
I'm actually with my son. We just my buddies and
I we just low crawled around Fort McHenry where the
our spangle banner was first introduced to America and for
written and yeah, we're doing a little bit every I've
been up for about five hours. How you guys moving?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Is that right? Low crawled?
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Like?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Is that like on your belly with your l walking
with your looks.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Like constantina wire above your head, although they didn't have
the wire. But yeah, you don't use your feet, You
just use your elbows and your knees and your thighs.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
How far did you do this?
Speaker 5 (05:45):
They're on the perimeter of Fort McHenry. What is that?
Probably good? Three course a while?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I guess, yeah, I love that you get together with
your friends and your buddies and you do fun things
like low crawling.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
I think last year it was push ups or something.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, we've had pushouts in the past.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
Yeah, at the break happens.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
It's kind of it's fun to do in the dark
so the enemy can't see you. You get it. You
just don't do it broad daylight, right right, fair, that's
four am.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I'm tired just thinking about it. Yeah, we're gonna low
crawl around the studio. I'm during the break, just so
we feel like we're part of it.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
There's out there. I don't know what Fort McHenry is
in Baltimore right off the owner harbor. Check it out
and you see what I mean. There's a piece of
American history.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Did your son low crawl with you too?
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Hell yeah, college hosty soccer players. He could probably he's
six four, so the frame doesn't really blend itself to
low crawling. The best low crawling infantryment or not six
foot four, But the fact he may like one hundred
and ten pounds help he got around pretty well.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
That's awesome. Well, how good does the field to be
in Baltimore for this tomorrow?
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Yeah? You know, guys, I always give the same type
of speel about the Army Navy game, but now more
than ever, this is all pretty much major college football's
last true game. You don't have ni the two teams combined.
You know much niow money the Army Navy teams just combined,
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and zero cent for two hundred and ten players, one
hundred and five on each roster, all of whom except
by exception once a decade if they get a pro
sports exemption, all of whom are going to be in
the profession of arms, many of them six months from now.
This is real. They do it for us, They do
it for the country, They do it for the brothers,
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They do it for their alma mater. This is real.
They don't do it for nil. They don't will get
to the next place they can transfer to. The backup,
back up, backup quarterback isn't seeking the transfer because he
didn't play this year. That's not this and that's gone,
and college football is broke, and Oury Navy game ain't broken.
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This is the last frontier of what college sports should
be about.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, that's that's great. Well, enjoy it all, soak it
all up and then hurry back to Seattle on Sunday
because you've got Colts Philip Rivers to cover.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
That was the most interesting NFL regular season game I've
done twenty three years in the NFL. I don't know
about regular season game. It's going to be more interesting
than watching a forty four year old grandpa come out
of five years of retirement three days and he's only
had three practices. Yeah, and I want to play, and
I keep thinking about his former Chargers team at tim
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and Wiser till then Wednesday in Brenton. Hey, no way,
Philip Rivers is leaving ten kids, a grandkid and a
wife out of Alabama to get on a plane at
Christmas time five hours of Seattle to not play. He's
playing no matter what Ridley Leonards status is, and I'll
sign from Minneapolis's the Seahawks are going to get him
and Mike McDonalds coaching staff. Ever since the news broke
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Tuesday that Philip Rivers was heading to Minneapolis for a tryout,
the Seawks defensive game plan has been about stopping Rivers. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Well, I mean, obviously it's the topic of the game.
And yet the facts are one team is heading upwards
and the other one has been heading downwards. I mean,
Seattle's outscored their last two opponents sixty three to nine.
I mean, is there anything that Philip Rivers can do
or is this flat out you stop Jonathan Taylor and
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you have a runaway in here.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Yeah, well that's it, Bucky. What Philip Rivers can do
is hand the ball to Jonathan Taylor is the NFL's
leading rusher. He has the second most carries average nineteen
carries a game. I think he's going to have more
than nineteen carries in the rain in Seattle on Sunday.
And if Indianapolis can do with really no team including
the Rams and forty nine ers have done on the skuts,
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and that's run the ball early on early downs. If
they can do that and make Rivers this third down,
third two instead of third and ten, then the costs
to have a chance. But nobody yet has done that.
And the Seahawks have played from the front so often
this year while going ten to three, the teams have
often not even tried to run. Some of the reasons
the Seahawks are third or fourth in the league and
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all the metrics for defense is because teams just don't
try them. Because they're done by two scores in the
first half. It's what happened in Atlanta Dejon Robinson at
sixty one yards at a halftime twenty four to the
rest of the game because they fell behind by multiple
scores after Rashida Deheed's chick return for a touchdown to
start with the second half. So can the Colts keep
Taylor producing to a level that Philip Rivers doesn't have
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to drop back forty times in long yardage to win?
Because I mean, come on, as great as Philip Rivers
is going to end up being in the Hall of
Fame how he has been, you can't expect him to
throw forty times in long yardage against any defense, especially
Mike McDonald's one of the best NFL defense is gone
right now to win. So that's where the Seahawks game
plan is su as Jonathan Taylor gun fits tackling. Mike
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McDonald made the point this week that Taylor is the
fastest running back they've played. He breaks tackles and he
gets away from you when you break the tackles. So
it's really key for Seattle. It's short tackling at the
line of scrimmage because this guy even more than DeShawn Robbinson.
He'll get away from you if you'll tackle.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah, I'm calling Mike McDonald's defense this week today's youth defense,
because no old man has ever been able to figure
out today's youth. So that's that's what i'm calling. So
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it's the today's youth defense that they'll be facing. And look,
I mean, I said this is my key. I think
you only have to defend like three three yards of
defense of the trenches because you're going to stack the
box to stop Taylor and I think Philip Rivers is
probably going to try to survive on screen passes and
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dump offs and things of that nature. I don't think
they're gonna be a lot of you know, five step
drops in this game on Sunday, and man, that is
to me, Greg, that's like throwing meat to a lion
here a den of lions. With the way the Seahawks
defense is playing right now.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Yeah, they they can't just do that. They will throw
the ball down the field because you have to in
today's NFL or else you're gonna get exactly what you're describing,
and it's going to be a route. It will not
surprise me for Rivers. Hughetok yesterday on our roundtable about
the weapons they have a pushing the ball down the field.
I think you're gonna do that, but again, if they
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can run the ball first to keep the Seahawks pastures
on us. But this is not just some old man
charity game. He's not coming back unless he thinks he
can be an NFL functioning quarterback, and the Coats wouldn't
put him out there. They lookton'll, let's be real. The
Colts rolled the dice first by taking Anthony Richardson high
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in the draft and he hasn't panned out yet. Now
he's on injured reserve. Daniel Jones, they were in Charmed
Life with him. He was in the second NFL life
here at the beginning of the season when they were
seven and one. At that time, when they were seven
and one, they had no plan b. It was Daniel
Jones or bust. And now they're busted. And they didn't
before the deadline go trade for guys like Russell Wilson
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or even maybe Joe Flacco and Cleveland guys veterans that
we could have been available. They didn't trade for them.
So now, unless you can convince a team to waive
a Wilson or Flacco, you can't get them. And that's
why they were in the situation they were in this
week because they didn't proactively plan for this. It was
Brett Riffen or hey, let's call Philip Rivers. So, I mean,
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it's such a unique situation for sure, And it's not
like the Colt is just playing out the string. They
got a win to get in the playoffs. That's how
desperate this is. So I don't think going to see
robo quarterback tossing one yard. He's gonna have to push
the ball down the field to keep the Colts in
contention for the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Yeah, I'm with you, And I mean, ultimately this has
been a decent I'm pretty good. Actually the first eight
games of the season, the Colts defense was pretty decent.
Now they have some injuries and I'm not sure if
DeForest Buckner's coming back from the neck injury, that would
be one area that could cause some issues. I mean,
they're gonna need a little bit of help. If these
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two teams go out there both play a B game,
then it's going to be probably a lopside of victory.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
In the Seahawks favor.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
But I would think that defensively, what is it that
you could possibly see that the Colts could bring to
the table, because they're going to need some help or
some big plays, some turnover something from their defense to
try to force Sam Darnold into making a couple of mistakes.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
I would think, yeah, exactly. But they're going to turn
on the tape of the Minnesota game and they're gonna say, ah,
we're going to bring more pressure than we brought all season,
because let's make this quarter turn the ball over. Let's
get up some drive starts in the twenty yard line
like the Vikings did, And that's that's I I think
the Rams are gonna do it Thursday night. I think
the Panthers are gonna do it in week seventeen end.
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I know the forty nine ers will do it in
Santa Clara and the season the pressure Donald, Let's see
if he'll turn the ball over. He's leading the league
and turnovers at sixteen. It's because his defense is so good.
And when he doesn't turn the ball over, Donald's been
so good at fishing throwing the ball down the fields
that they are ten and three. I submit that that
ain't gonna work against the Rams forty nine ers and
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then the playoffs. You turn the ball over, you loose.
That's the name of the game in the NFL playoffs.
So the Colts are going to try it force that.
The problem, of course, is that you mentioned Buckner has
a neck injury. He has practiced this week. The word
getting out of Indianapolis he is going to play. Sauce
Gardner is a bigger story than me. They traded two
first round picks for him. The all Pro cornerback is
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now hurt. He's got a cast issue. He hasn't practiced
all week. He may not play, and that's the guy
you've got to get you over the top defensively, and
he's not even gonna be on the field with the
season on the line. If Gardner doesn't play, Smith and
Jigg is going to have a chance to have a
huge day down the field. Even if it's rainy and
windy and Seattle and today and soft, Gardner in the lineup,
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he's a game changer. They would probably shadow Gardner with
Smith and Jig the entire game, least I would. But
if he's not in there, then you got zone and
catch up coverages and shell and we've seen what Smith
and Jigg has done to that all year.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Greg Bell is with us live from Baltimore. He and
Jessmone McIntyre will be hosting a show today. They're going
to be doing that. What is it night? Noon to three?
Is is that the time?
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Yes, sir? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Noon to three? Uh? Do we have a plan? Are
you guys winging it? And just you know, grabbing Roger
Stallbach as he comes by?
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Well, I would never grab brothers. I respect the hell
of him. He's a movie quarterback. After do you know?
You know Jessmon, he's so oh organized, he keeps us straight. Yeah,
we got a plan. We're going to talk to Nate Boyer,
the former Seahawks, the Green Beret who walked onto the
Texas team and made himself a football career after serving
in Iraq. We're going to talk to a former Army commander,
(17:15):
Company commander, Army ranger who was a Purple Heart recipient
wood warrior in combat who has now dedicated his life
to fixing veterans' health, quality of life, homelessness for veterans.
There are three million veterans who served in Iraq in
Afghanistan who were shot at who our country have left
(17:35):
behind and they don't have enough means to have homes
or food or attic quality of life. And we're going
to talk to the gentleman Zach Pleega, who was dedicating
his life to doing that. He just ran across the
country Forrest Gump style in a relay three thousand miles
from San Diego to Washington, DC onto the National Mall
to raise money for the awareness for veterans and the
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plight of veterans and talk to him. We're gonna talk
to the Army and maybe athletic directors about the state
of college football or bowls going away and how they
are staying above the fray in the non nil academy world.
We'll probably talk to the Army, maybe play by play guys,
and tak the Mike Mayock Philadelphia boy and raised grew
up on this Army Navy game from a Raiders general manager,
(18:17):
longtime NFL scout, from a player himself. We'll talk to him.
A ton of people coming out and yeah, it it's
gonna be blasted. This is our favorite event. And if
you're around the radio, you'll learn something about football in
Americana and military life. From twelve to three.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Awesome. Look forward to it. And I won't even ask
you who's gonna win. Just tell me what the final
score will be.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Yeah, I appreciate that. Check you.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
Let's go.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Let's go twenty to seventeen. Maybe's good. Maybe he's eight
and nine and three Army twenty seventeen. Games supposed to
be dry, not too cold. We'll sing second tomorrow. I'll
be on the field Builtman Alma Mater second.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Tomorrow, watching that sloppy Navy drill team.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Yeah, this snoopy leading woodstock around the field. You will see.
It's just a bunch of amateur hours.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I kind of want to, but I'll I'll go ahead
and end it there. We'll have fun, have fun, uh
being there, have a blast. I know you look forward
to it so much every single year, so I want
you to just enjoy everything. And we'll talk to you
when we talk to you.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
I appreciate that. We'll talk to you Monday. I'll be home.
I land eleven o'clock the straightened stadium. Okay, sleep, Hey,
But a serious note, though, Buck, you hope you dry.
I hope everybody in Pacific Northwest drive. I flew out
of Seatach yesterday and was just shocked south of the
airport at everything that's underwater down there. Heart goes out
to everybody affected by that and hope we can get
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these rains turned off.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
No, I have a great all right, Greg, thank you.
That's our sex inside of Greg Bell from the News Tribune.
You can follow him at g bel Seattle. If you're
not it's a little foolish, might as well do it
now and he'll he'll do a lot of Army Navy
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How many more enemies are the Notre Dame fighting Irish
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Speaker 5 (20:42):
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Speaker 2 (20:51):
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grew up in southern Illinois and there was a family
right down the road from the Wolf's and they had
nineteen children the Wolf's. Are you serious, I'm serious, that's
a lot. There was a normal name, but then they
just had a normal last name. The mom had litters
of children.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
Okay, yeah, the first name could have been like Tapioka.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Wolf was the Tappioka Wolf was the kid my age, yeah,
and Lannel and Wolf was my that's the that's a
girl's name. Obviously that was my sister's age. No, they
had normal names. They were not a normal family, but
obviously they were fertile.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Catholic.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
Okay, of surprise, yeah, Catholic.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
There were a lot of them, and no one else
in the community liked them. Oh, they were exactly like
Notre Dame. The wolf Pack as they were. I mean,
they were always trying to fight everybody, every kid except
the one in my class I got. I got the
(22:22):
good one. Jamie was a sweetheart. But all the rest
of the wolf children, they were always trying to fight people.
They were always wronged. They were always being wronged at
all times. And it didn't put it together until this
week that basically they were Notre Dame and so already
not liked by the entire country of college football fans.
(22:47):
If you don't, if you're not a wolf, there's no
chance anyone else liked you, right, and so, and yet
they've had a really unpopular week this week, their reaction
to not being made included in the college football playoff.
I mean, there were boycotts of Ivan Mazell's book at
bookstores because Ivan Mazell is a sports writer who was
(23:10):
on the committee, and so they they took his books
off the shelves in South Bend. Oh, jeez, you know,
things like that. Obviously, we heard the egregious grousing from
Pete Levaqua their ad this week, and so a lot
of other ads have weighed in about how immature, how
(23:31):
Braddy he is acting for being left out of the tournament,
and then we found out Ashley told us in the
middle of a conversation, I didn't even know it, and
it turns out nobody knew it. Pete Levaqua announced on
Dan Patrick's show that we have a secret deal with
the committee going forward that we are included guaranteed if
(23:57):
we finished top twelve in the rankings from this year forward, guaranteed.
People did not know that. So there are programs all
over the country like, what are you talking about. Yeah,
you have a secret agreement, contractual agreement that if you're
in the top twelve, you're guaranteed in the every playoff
from this point forward. So from what I hear, Notre
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Dame programs are now like sharing information might start freezing
them out, Like try to get a top twelve ranking,
because we're not going to schedule you anymore. So try
to get a top twelve ranking beating up on Army, Navy,
the Citadel and whoever else you can get to play
(24:41):
you because we're not even going to schedule you anymore.
If you're going to act like you're not one of
us and they've acted like they're not one of us
their entire history. That's what they do.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
They're hated.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, that's why they are, and now they're this week,
they're more hated than they've ever been hated, and rightfully. So, yeah,
I meant, I get it.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
You felt like you got screwed over, and you know,
there's a legitimate argument that you probably are one of
the better teams in the country that deserves a shot
at in the tournament, but it's you didn't. Your resume
doesn't say unequivocally you're should be in. Absolutely, you ended
up losing to Miami. They ended up getting in. You don't.
(25:22):
So that's kind of there's a fairness to that to
some degree. There's a part of that that is an
argument that's a legitimate on the side of the Hurricanes
versus you. You had lost to Texas A and m
your second game, so you started out own too. Now
since then you rattled off nothing but w's. But because
you don't play in a conference, because you think you're
(25:42):
bigger than that, you're better. We wear gold helmets, were
the brand of all brands. Then you're some of your
victories fall on deaf ears, some of them are like, well,
you don't. You don't even come close to the resume
that Alabama. Now I agree that there's an argument about it.
Alabama shouldn't be in because of the way in which
they didn't show up in their conference championship game.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Strength of schedule doesn't compare to Alabama. The resume absolutely
compared well. But to me, that that's those are there's
a similarity, that those things correlate and there's a there's
a there's an overlap.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
They're not exactly the same, but yes, the strength of schedule,
which is part of your resume, part of the it
doesn't they're not even it's apples and oranges. You didn't
play even close to the same type of competition. So
had you been in the SEC, would you have not
dropped more games early in the season before you figured
(26:36):
out and got your footing and figured out how to
play the way you have down the stretch Because to me,
I mean, you know, the USC win, I guess is
a good win, but that's not a team that belongs
in the College Football Playoff either. Pitt was up in
that until they beat them. Pitt was kind of in
the conversation of he are they going to be a
team that squeaks in there. There really is no there's
(26:57):
no signature win on their on their resume, and so
you act like a brat. Then there's a really good
chance that people are like, Okay, if they're going to
be petty, then we can be petty right back at them,
especially once we find out they got some loophole in
there that if we play them and they beat us,
that that might just be enough for them to get
into the top twelve and automatically in.
Speaker 8 (27:16):
I didn't think actually that it was possible for me
to dislike Notre Dame more. But they've done it, so congratulations.
But at the same time, none of it surprises me
because they always have felt like they're above everybody else,
I mean, and they've been treated like they're above everybody else.
It's not just Notre Dame came up with this whole
thing that they're, you know, the the brand and they're
(27:37):
the best. It's that they have been supported by that
narrative for a long time and that they're very important
for college football, and so they use that importance to
their benefit, and in this case, that importance didn't help them,
and now they're angry about it.
Speaker 7 (27:54):
Well, it's helped them a lot in the past.
Speaker 8 (27:55):
So there's been other schools that have been left out
of things because Notre Dame and they're self importance made
it in.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
And now you know what it's like to be on
the other side pettiness.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I can live with a week of pettiness after you
got left out. I'm used to Notre Dame being petty. Yeah,
so that I can live with. And even if we
got a heavy dose of pettiness this week. Okay, some
heavy petty.
Speaker 8 (28:19):
I mean yeah, yeah, at that part, At that point
you kind of laugh at them. It's like, oh gosh,
here they go again.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
But I mean that wouldn't be unexpected. I don't even
think it is entirely out of bounds. I mean, think
about what Florida State did and they got they did
not make it in an undefeated season when we didn't
have a twelve team tournament, but think about what that
week was afterwards, So getting being the last being the
person left out. And I think that the committee did
(28:47):
do them wrong, yeah, by leading them to believe that
they were safe and they were there, and then magically
when the time came to announce that they weren't there.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
Yeah, neither team plays and then suddenly they flip flopped checksnosense.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I can deal with a week of anger, I can
deal with a week of pettiness. But like the but
getting nasty, and then one of your problems is that
you're trying to act above and separate from the rest
of college football, and then you spent a week trying
to separate yourself further and trying to babe as if
(29:22):
you're higher. I would hope there are lessons to be
learned here, because the alternative is I would hope they
join a conference because of this. I would hope that
they got knocked down a couple of pegs because of this,
because the alternative is you're going to be left out entirely.
(29:43):
You can't run a college football program by yourself. You
don't have a conference, and if nobody will schedule you,
you know you're just going to have a club team.
At this point, you better start playing ball with all
the other kids.
Speaker 8 (29:57):
Well, and they started alienating the ACC too, for one
in Miami.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
In you better start playing ball with all the other
kids in the neighborhood or you're going to be left out,
or you're going to be diminished so greatly that you're
going to beg to get back in to play with
the kids and get invited to the parties. So I'll
give you a week, but you bet. I mean clandestine
(30:23):
meetings and secret contracts that you have and nobody else has.
Nobody's going to play that game with you, So go
ahead and take your ball and go home. We got
plenty of balls, exactly, and we got plenty of kids,
So the sport does not need you. What do they
(30:45):
always say that about an individual player? Know how, no
matter how great the player is, you're not bigger than
the game. No matter how great a program you are,
you're not even close to being as big as the
product as the college football world, and you were a
star player in it. But you are already trying to
separate yourself from everybody else, and you've had a week
(31:08):
of acting like you're even bigger and better and more
important than we've ever let on. Yep, and it's gone.
It's backfired on you.
Speaker 7 (31:17):
Weird that they would screw it up.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
It's blowing up in your face. So I would hope
that you would recognize the scars, but they're not acting
it that way right now. That's for sure. All right,
Coming up next, what's the second most interesting thing about
the Colts Seahawks game? On Sunday Sports Radio ninety three
point three KJRFM. All Right, the O Joe comes your
(31:49):
way at the top of the hour, your eight top
stories of the day here on this Friday, a chance
for you to recap the week and get you ready
for the weekend. We do it every Friday. It's the
Friday Oho. Of course, this has been a week of
a strange week of Seahawk talk because it's all revolved
around facing a forty four year old quarterback five years
(32:11):
retired who's coming off the couch to play this Sunday
against the Seahawks. So it's hard not to talk about
that pretty much every segment for me. I mean, that's
how interesting this story is. Greg Bell said he's not
looked forward to a regular season game like this one
and his entire time covering the Seahawks because of just
(32:32):
how fantastic the story is. I mean, it might end
up having a grim result, it might not be that
pretty on Sunday, but the story itself is just something
that we've never seen before. Kurt Warner told us that yesterday.
I can't tell you if he's going to succeed or
fail because we've never seen anyone try this before, and
yet Philip Rivers takes the field on Sunday. So that's
(32:55):
without question the number one story, and it's been such
a dominant story. Have we even discussed what's the second
biggest story in this game? What's the second biggest story
in this game?
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Oh, I get to me, it probably would be can
Jonathan Taylor do enough to make it a game against
this defense? Would be the only I mean, because they
don't have a bunch of playmakers outside of that. So
it's still is connected to it's not completely separate of
Philip Rivers because to me, it's Jonathan Taylor. I would
(33:29):
think the same thing if it was still Daniel Jones.
Now it's just obviously blown up to bigger proportions because
it's a forty four year old guy coming off the
couch essentially to try to lead the team at the
most important position. But to me, that would be if
we were talking about Daniel Jones still playing that, I
think it's a big topic we'd be talking about. Is
Jonathan Taylor, and I mean out of Christian McCaffrey is
(33:52):
maybe a better back or is the only other one
I think that would be close to that. They're in
the same category that this Yawks defense is faced John
Robinson just last week.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah, I guess be Jehan Robinson.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Yeah, their team, Yeah, yeah, you're right. They shut him
down for the most part, I guess John Robinson talent wise.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
That's just it. Everything though, is connected to Philip Rivers.
It's Jonathan Taylor. Can Jonathan Taylor carry a team with
Philip Rivers at quarterback?
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Right?
Speaker 2 (34:21):
You know that's the second biggest story. What will Mike
McDonald's defense do do this week against a forty four
year old quarterback coming out of retirement. I mean, that's
that's that's in the conversation. I mean the only thing
actually that could possibly even get headlines that aren't going
to be attached to Philip Rivers on Sunday is if
a streaker comes out onto the field, that will be like,
(34:44):
there's a chance a streaker will come out onto the field?
Is like the second biggest story heading into this game.
Speaker 8 (34:50):
I mean it sure seems like it, because yeah, everything
is so centered around this big unknown because it's not
even like as we've talked about. He hasn't been there
for weeks practicing.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
You're not seeing you know.
Speaker 8 (35:00):
Yesterday I saw a video that was him in practice
and it was like, oh, Philip Rivers attempts a long pass.
Speaker 7 (35:05):
It was twenty five yards. I would not consider that
a long pass. I was like, is there more to this? No,
that's it. That was Philip Rivers twenty five yard pass.
Speaker 8 (35:17):
I thought, well, yeah, he threw it, but I didn't
have a doubt he could throw it twenty five yards?
Speaker 7 (35:22):
Now can he do that with a defense running at him.
I worry about it and his health.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Yeah, well, it's gonna be a fascinating watch, there's no
question about it. And I know I'm on the extreme side.
I don't give him a chance to be successful. And
that has nothing to do against Philip Rivers. It's just
the aspect of what he's trying and attempting to do
just doesn't add up for me. Well, we'll get into
(35:50):
it more with the Friday O Show. Certainly, it's one
of our top eight stories of the day, and it's
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