December 12, 2025 • 39 mins
We cover the top 8 sports stories of the day in the OCHO 1. The return of Rivers 2. Seahawks vs Colts 3. NFL week 15 began last night 4. It’s Army-Navy week! 5. Sherrone Moore and the Michigan drama 6. UW coming off biggest win, face Southern Utah tomorrow 7. Kraken face the Mammoth 8. Stove is out! :30- MIKE HOLMGREN Coach joins the show a little early today and we get his thoughts on the return of Phillip Rivers and the Seahawks matchup with the Colts. :45- The Heisman trophy ceremony is tomorrow and it seems like Indiana’s Fernando Mendoza is a shoo-in, but could there be a surprise in store?
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That's what we're here for.
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My friends, I think it could get stronger.
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Philip Rivers is undoubtedly our number one story, believe it
or not. The Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
If you're just if you just you know, hey, what's
going on in the world out there. I've been meditating
for the last five days at a rock and a
tent with Aaron Rodgers nightmare. If that's where you've been, well,
well there's a story here that we're dealing with here
in Seattle. The Seahawks this Sunday are going to take
on the Indianapolis Colts, led by potentially quarterback Philip Rivers.
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The forty four year old is five years removed from
the National Football League, hasn't played in five years. It
was on the Hall of Fame ballot as we speak,
but he is going to try and play football again.
Because of the Daniel Jones and Riley Leonard injuries last
week for Indianapolis, they didn't have a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
They gave Philip Rivers a call.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
They asked if he would like to give it a go,
and he says, Dad, gummet, why not? Literally what he said.
And so it's been the talk of the football world.
What is this going to look like? On Sunday? Yesterday
we had a chance to chat with Kurt Warner, who
went through a similar experience a few years ago. After
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his career was over. The Cardinals were kicking the tires
on maybe bringing him out of retirement. So we had
to contemplate this himself. So he was the perfect guest
to get on yesterday to talk about this Philip Rivers situation.
And so we'll start with the part of the conversation
with Kurt Warner yesterday and that when that's when I
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just asked him, can Philip Rivers pull this thing off?
Speaker 6 (02:20):
I mean, I can't answer that because I've never been there,
and I don't know who who has, you know, I
mean it it obviously sounds crazy, you know. I do remember,
you know, a number of years after I retired, but
the Cardinals here, we're having some issues with the quarterbacks
and some injuries, and you know, there were a speculation
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and maybe they should call Kurt. I remember going out
in the backyard and throwing the football around a little bit, like, hey,
if they call, you know, you know, will I entertain it?
And all of those things. So, you know, I kind
of remember back to a few years after being out
of the league, and you know, my biggest issue wasn't
the physical part of it in terms of you know,
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throwing a football or or being in shape. My biggest
worry and concern was the mental aspect of you know,
being able to get up to speed. So you know, A,
I could have success, B I could protect myself from
that standpoint. You know that that, you know, being out
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of the game for five years and understanding you know,
the athletes in the game and what it takes to
play at that level.
Speaker 7 (03:33):
You know.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
I mean, to me, it would be an incredible feed
for him to come back after a week and get
out there and and perform extremely well. I mean probably
even to you know, to perform at an average level
after that would be pretty incredible because I respect the
game so much, you know that, even when I was
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considered it, you know, it was like, man, there was
nothing in my mind that said, oh, I can step
back on that field and in the short term be
the same player I was, you know years ago. I
just respect the game and what it is, and you
know what it takes to be great at this level.
I respected it too much to think that I could
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be great, you know quickly. You know that I think
I could get up the speed and get back there.
Well yeah, I mean I think all of us competitors
think that. But that's kind of what I look at
here is, man. You know, I respect Philip for giving
it a shot, and you know, for them to you know,
try to uncover everything to have success.
Speaker 8 (04:35):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
And I think like most of us, we're intrigued, we're excited,
were interested, We just wanted to end at least fairly well,
you know, like that's my biggest thing is I just
don't want this to be a bad thing, you know.
And you know, I should say another thing that I
was concerned about, you know when when I was even
just considering it, and the Cardinals never called it, So
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it was never anything like like this with Philip. But
the other other thing was just you know, the reaction
of your body to things that you haven't done. Like
I didn't want to be a guy that went back
out there and like you know, pull the hamstring or
pull the muscle or or hurt something, you know, in
the first ten plays of my first hit because my
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body wasn't ready you know, for a quick movement or
to take a hit or whatever that was. And so
that was another concern of mine. And so I think
that's the big concern for me. You know, he goes
out there, is I don't want it to be you know,
so anticlimacting and he comes back and he gets hurt,
and you know, it may be what we all expect.
And I don't want him to go out there and
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just get beat up because he's just not mentally able
to you know, to handle the speed and everything that's
coming at him, and the new offense and all of
that stuff. And so I think there are some distinct
challenges without a doubt, and you have to respect the
game enough to to just say, you know, I think
it will be hard, you know, for any to come
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back and have you know, a level of success in
such a short period of time.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Kurt Warner, whether it's yesterday, if you want to hear
the entire conversation, do so on our podcast ninety three
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Speaker 2 (06:11):
I take it.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
I've taken it even further than I think anybody else.
I think most people are coming on here and saying
how hard it's going to be, and I think it's
going to be impossible. And it's because of the position.
I mean, Marshawn Lynch came back. How long was he out?
Two three years? And he came taking a handoff and
running it into a whole. I think that's possible. But
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I requate quate like Bucky this, this goes right to
you quarterback position being so complex and having so much responsibility.
I would equate this to like a baseball player trying
to come back like Prince Fielder. Prince Fielder has been
removed from the game for about five years. Imagine if hey,
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would you like to give it a shot again? We
really need a first basement. Okay, how long do I
have to get ready? Five days?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Okay, well, can I face the live pitching? No, because
we can't risk you getting hurt. You can only go
in a cage. You can go into a cage as
much as you want, but we're not going to throw
at the speed of the pitches that you're going to
face because we can't risk you getting hurt because that
would just undo all of it. Oh okay, well, am
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I at least facing a bad pitcher. No, you're facing
the best picture in the league, Derek Schooble. That's who
you're facing this week. Like, I think it sounds Prince
Fielder would go zero for four with four strikeouts under
that in that scenario, And I think Philip Rivers.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
And I like Philip Rivers unlike you. I like Philip Rivers.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I think he stands no chance of having success on Sunday. Well,
I mean more than likely he would go for with
four strikeouts. You're right, more than likely, But there is
a chance that he would lock up on there's a
chance Okay, so there's a chance Philip Rivers could lock
up on a deep throw.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, there's a chance that he could do.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
I'm not saying he can't complete a pass, but in
terms of can he have a successful day quarterbacking in
the National Football League, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Well. So to me, it's there's there's a part of it.
Speaker 9 (08:19):
It's a great analogy because yes, it's the idea of
are you going to be successful? Far fetched, very far
fetched because of all of the things that go into it.
The idea of playing quarterback, to correlating it to like
a baseball player would be like, okay, if it wasn't
Prince Fielder, if it was somebody that actually knew how
to bunt and had bunted in their life. A successful
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day you might get just lay one down. You might
be able to there's other things you could do outside
of locking up and squaring one up one hundred percent. Now,
hitting a baseball is more difficult than dumping it off
to a running back or throwing to a bubble screen,
or you know, a little hook by your tight end
and you see that he's open, and there happened to
be a clear lane right there. He can do that
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in his sleep until he's fifty five years old. Now,
what Kurt Warner's talking about, like the risk of boy
just popping a hamstring just because you're not used to
quick agile moves. Not that you were quick in agile
four or five years ago when you played so, but
you were used to taking collisions. Yeah, oh yeah, I
mean you're used to the speed of the game. Oh
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my god, Yeah, there's a I mean, I'm not going
to sit here and say that it's far fetch. I've
used the analogy before of like, how just taking an
off season off and then I go into spring training
and how fast it seems, just the simple playing catch
And then you stand in the batter's box in the
first like few days. You don't even get to hit.
You just have to stand there like a crash test dummy,
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hoping that this dude that's winging it at you doesn't
let it fly since he's had some time off. It
seems it's not relative. The speed isn't relative. It seems
too fast. Now that said, there was the one year
that broke my wrist, and then I went straight from
having no practice at all down to Venezuela to play
and I end up hitting seven home runs in seven games.
But the game was way fast right there, Like it
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did not feel normal, didn't feel like I was on
my game. And yet probably one of my hottest streaks
I've ever had, simply because the fact that I could
still swing and if I ran into it, it could
do I could still do damage.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
That the potential is still there, the likelihood of that.
Speaker 9 (10:23):
If you would ask me to do that every single offseason,
take six months off and then no practice, go play
in Venezuela, chances are I'm gonna go oh for thirty
five or one for thirty five and.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Not hit any home runs.
Speaker 9 (10:34):
Just so it's that's where I'm not so far as
it's impossible, it's just far fast.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I'm gonna take one off season and then we're going
to exaggerate that to five full years. And you're not
a twenty four year old, You're a forty four year old, right,
Like you would not have had that streak in Venezuela, Right, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Would not have had that streak.
Speaker 9 (10:53):
But to think that I couldn't even I mean right now, no,
because I can't see the ball. But I mean to
think that you couldn't go out there and still have
a moment where you just it's fast against fast, and
you're like, but I'm muscle memory. I'll give my winging
in there, and maybe a guy makes a great catch
next thing. You know, you have that five times and
you could win a go ball game.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I'll give him that. I think that he could have
a moment.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I think he could complete a pass deep down field
or I'm okay, there we go, and I think he's
also going to throw three pick sixes and get sacked
twelve times.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
No, that's I just I hope I'm wrong. I said
this earlier. I really do.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I mean, I want the Seahawks to win, and I
think that they're going to no matter what Philip Rivers does.
But I hope I'm wrong because I want this to
be a happy ending. I want I want to see
some success. I want this to be It's gonna be
far more interesting if he has success and versus he
just falls completely on his face or gets hurt or
something like that.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Just so she was doing it against another team, so
I could support him.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
More Seahawks colts Greg Bell was with us an hour ago,
and of course everything funnels through this Philip Rivers store.
And still we ask Greg for what the key is
going to be in this game.
Speaker 10 (12:04):
If Indianapolis can do with really no team including the
Rams and forty nine ers have done on the Seahucks,
and let's run the ball early on early downs. If
they can do that and make Rivers' third down third
and two instead of third and ten, then the Colts
have a chance. But nobody yet has done that. Some
of the reasons the Seahawks are third or fourth in
the league and all the metrics for defense is because
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teams just don't try them because they're done by two
scores in the first half. So can the Colts keep
Taylor producing to a level that Philip Rivers doesn't have
to drop back forty times in long yardage to win?
Because I mean, come on, as great as Philip Rivers
is going to end up being in the Hall of Fame,
how he has sent you can't expect him to throw
forty times in long yardage against any defense, especially Mike
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McDonald's one of the best NFL defense is going right
now to win. So that's where the Seahawks game plan
is starting. Is Jonathan Taylor unfits tackling Mike Donald made
the point this week that Taylor is the fastest running
back they've played. He breaks tackles and he gets away
from you when you break the tackles. So it's really
key for Seattle. It's short tackling at the line of
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scrimmage because this guy, even more than Beshawn Robbinson, he'll
get away from you if you'll tackle him.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Craig Bell with us an hour ago. He'll uh more
on Greg here in a moment. Hawks into the game
at thirteen and a half point favorite. It opened to
three and a half, so the Daniel Jones injury has
changed it by ten points. I still don't think it's enough.
I'm expecting the Seahawks to smack him. Kick off is
at one twenty five on Sunday. I just we got
other things to get I just say one other thing
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if he does have success, because believe me, there are
a lot of recently retired since Philip Rivers has retired quarterbacks,
and they sit around all the time thinking wonder if
I could do this again. If he does have success
on Sunday, don't be's prized. If like three four guys
decide I'm gonna work out this offseason.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I'm gonna play again like.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
A Roethlisberger or a even a like I wouldn't be
surprised if three or four quarterbacks, if he has them six,
they're gonna use him as.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Their dinna pig. If he gets demolished, to'll be like, oh,
I'm not gonna do that again.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Glad it was him and me.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
But if they, if they are watching and he has success,
I'll bet you three or four retired quarterbacks are like.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I'm gonna get back in shape. I miss it.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I missed the guys, I missed the clubhouse, I missed
the action. I'm gonna I'm gonna give this a shot.
Philip just motivated me.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (14:24):
Well, I mean the idea of missing it. I think
every athlete goes through. But whatever it takes for a
Tom Brady to eventually hang it up, even Philip rivers.
I mean his last year he had went eleven and
five with the coach, went to the playoffs. There was
there's something where was like, I just Dovid do this.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
It was Covid you didn't want to do he was
thinking about retirement anyway.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
He was like, well, I'm not doing this. I'm just
gonna go hang it up.
Speaker 9 (14:46):
Yeah, well that was twenty twenty. Wasn't that the year
they played? Wasn't that the COVID year anyway? I mean,
he's he's Eventually everybody's like, Okay, I've done enough. I
made my money. It hurts too much. I don't want
to be singularly focused. I have fifteen kids I want
to spend some time with, and so I'm with you.
I think that there's a lot of guys that might
get a little bit intrigued by the idea of going
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back there if they didn't leave because the game said,
you need to retire, you're no longer any good.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
We Number fifteen of the National Football League season got
started last night Thursday Night Football in Tampa, Florida, where
the Falcons shocked the Buccaneers by a final score of
twenty nine to twenty eight. It knocked the Buccaneers out
of first place, and it put Todd Bulls in a
really terrible mood.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
You tell them in locker forgiven it.
Speaker 11 (15:32):
It's inexcusable. You don't make excuses. You gotta care enough
where it hurts. You gotta care enough where it hurts.
It got to mean something to you. It's more than
a job, it's your livelihood. How well do you know
your job? How well can you do your job?
Speaker 7 (15:48):
Well?
Speaker 11 (15:48):
You can't sugarcoat that. It was inexcusable and there's no
for it. It's for no excuse for it. That's what
you're telling them in a lot looking in the mirror.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Wow, I was so nervous that I missed.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
One I have.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I've never heard Todd Bowles cuss once. I just heard
him cuss a thousand times in twenty seconds.
Speaker 9 (16:09):
I don't think he's very happy when your team is
on the edge of you know, their division, you know,
top of their division and fighting for a playoff spot,
and you cough up a fourteen point fourth quarter lead
against the.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Bad team an arrival. Yeah, not at home? Yeah he was.
He was not happy.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Nope, I say, Kyle Pitts had a career, night boy.
You picked a bad week to face Kyle Pitts in
Fantasy football playoffs. Eleven catches, one hundred and sixty six
yards and three touchdowns for the former top ten pick
tied end for the Atlanta Falcons, so twenty nine to
twenty eight. The final score that scars and they still
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got a chance to still win the division. Hopefully, Todd
Bowles pottymouth grant. We'll get into them, because Carolina is
not going to run away with this thing, that's for sure.
This Sunday great lineup. Just some of the highlighted games.
Buffalo at New England earlier in the afternoon, Detroit at
the Rams, Packers at Broncos, and then Sunday night, not
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a very good game, Vikings at Dallas taking on the Cowboys.
College football. It is Army Navy Week and I want
ah recruit.
Speaker 9 (17:25):
I'm picturing that song playing over just one of those
kind of square gray bullhorn speakers while he was doing
the Army crowl Yes this morning.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
That it is just one speakers sounds bad, but they're
singing it. That's his real dark secret.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
He and all of his Army buddies hated their time
so much that they sing in the Navy. They dress
up as the village people and sing in the Navy
every chance to think. When they get together, Greg and
Jess are in Baltimore. They're gonna have a show today
from noon to three, so make sure you check it out.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Greg just absolutely loves.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
This game, this weekend, this experience, and they're going to
do a great show today, specialty show from noon to three.
Heisman Trophy will be rewarded at four o'clock on Saturday,
So right after Army Navy, you've got the Heisman. Fernando
Mendoza is expected to win it, but Diego pave Up
might actually have a chance, the Vanderbilt quarterback of pulling
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this thing off. And then the first ball game will
be played tomorrow and it involves the Huskies. Huskies versus
Boise State to kick off bowl season. It is the
La Bowl at five o'clock. College football. We can't get
out of the college football world without updating you on
Sharon Moore. Earlier this week, scandal hit ann Arbor.
Speaker 12 (18:44):
Former University of Michigan football coach Sharone Moore. He is
expected in court today and he was arrested hours after
the school fired him this week for what it says
was an improper relationship with a staff member.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
And this morning new Emergency.
Speaker 12 (18:59):
Dispatch audio sheds light on the details of Moore's arrest
and Muse Nation's Ryan Bass with us now. So Ryan,
good morning. What did we learn from these recordings? A
huge story.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Here, Kelly.
Speaker 8 (19:12):
I'll tell you this dispatch audio is quite unsettling, and
it paints a real time picture of what police say
is the alleged assault that happened just hours before Moore
was arrested. Now, it's a shocking fall from grace from
a once rising star in the sport of college football.
ESPN's Pete Famil reporting that the situation had been percolating
for weeks, and then Moore had actually been acting strange,
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even berating some assistance in the days leading up to
his firing. Nowhere yet on the timing of his arraignment today, Kelly,
But obviously that audio it's pretty unsettling when you listen
to it, and so we'll find out more today and
see if Moore actually ends up policing a statement as well.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
What they're saying is it was the worst kept secret
on campus. Everybody had known it for a long time.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
What was going on.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Caitlin de Boor has shot down any and all possibility
of taking this job, and of course, we one hundred
percent always believe Calin de Bore he.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Would never leave.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Never.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Jedfish's name has also been mentioned prominently. Unless I missed it,
I don't think Jed's reacted to this and he's not.
He's not entitled to. I hope that it's Jed's like
not again. I don't want to talk about this anymore.
But who knows for what it's worth. Michigan is intending
to make a great hire. That was their statement yesterday,
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as opposed to we're gonna really blow this as for more,
he remains in custody for an aggravated assault charge. He
is expected to have his day in court today. College basketball,
you dub will play tomorrow. They're coming off their biggest
win of the Sprinkle era.
Speaker 13 (20:44):
Nice won over Peterson. It's short in USC is undefeated
no longer. The Huskies rip off the second biggest comeback
in Washington basketball history from eighteen down to an eight
point winner in the entertainment capital of the world, Washington
eighty four, twenty fourth rank, USC seventy six.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Our friend Tony Castrick own calling it out there. Huge
win for the Fighting Sprinkles. At six and three, The
Dogs set to host Southern Utah tomorrow at three. The
Zags are going to host UCLA at eight thirty tomorrow.
Coogs will be in action Sunday at four point thirty
against USC. They can they can't beat the Huskies, So
what makes them think they can be the coops?
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Right?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Uh, Kraken and Mammoth are going to be taking the
ice here tonight. The Kraken coming off their biggest win
of the year, a three two comeback win in overtime
over LA.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Can they turn it into momentum?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Seattle at Utah tonight at six o'clock, And this will
mark the first time the Kraken had faced Utah since
they were named.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
You have a great name.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
You must kill your name before he kills you.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Oh jeez, that seems extreme aggressive. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yeah, this is the first time that we faced them
as the Mammoth, is it not?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
I believe so. I think they got named before the
start of this this season.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Yeah, yeah, I love the name. By the way, love
the name Mammoth.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
That's a good one.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah. So that's to night at six o'clock.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
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an hour?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Why is coach? Is it nine to thirty already? I'm
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Speaker 3 (23:20):
Bagel shop by now, well, guess what it's on the
eight thirty coach coming on a little early.
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Speaker 3 (23:28):
Throw you off your game out there. Yeah, but yeah,
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Thanks for thanks for squeezing me in.
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Yeah, don't apologize. I'm just telling Bucket. I kind of
like having coach on at eight thirty on Friday. I
think I might want to do this permanently, force you
to get up an hour earlier every week.
Speaker 7 (23:57):
Let's not get carried away. I think I think I
think one's one's good.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
All right, you're gonna have to tell me what you
think of this Philip Rivers story. I mean, I seem
to be the most extreme person at the station, thinking
that he can't possibly have success on Sunday. You tell me,
you know quarterbacks better than anyone five years removed from
the game, forty four years old, two practices his How
(24:24):
on Earth is he going to have a chance of
being successful Sunday?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Coach?
Speaker 7 (24:28):
You know, I kind of agree with you, Chuck. I
think it's going to be really hard, particularly against the Seahawks.
But you have a great pass rush, great defense. Excuse me,
be but if anyone could do it. If anyone ever
could do this, which I'm doubtful. He's the guy now
I've known him a little bit over the years, and
(24:50):
is he quite possibly could do something like this, But
it is a long shot. You know, he's at his
age and he hasn't been hit in a long time.
And you know, now, the one thing they have going
for them, I have. They have a really good rushing attack.
And so if he does play, I don't think as
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it come out that he's going to start.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
It has not officially come out, but most people seem
to think that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 7 (25:19):
Yeah, I would think so too. And if he does play,
then you're going to see an offense that's pretty controlled.
Hopefully their defense plays well and then they run the
ball a lot. And so I'm sure Mike mcconald knows
that better than anybody. But I'm kind of with you.
I just pray, you know, he's a good guy, he
really is, and the and I just hope he doesn't
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get hurt.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Yeah, I'm with you. I hope he doesn't get hurt
as well.
Speaker 9 (25:44):
And it's far fetched, er a long shot as how
you put it, that he's going to be able to
go out there and do it, not just because he's
been off for four and a half years, but because
he's going against the Seahawks defense and it's going to
be different. But I would I'm curious, what do you
think are the ling like benefits if somebody plays seventeen
years in the NFL as a quarterback. Obviously, the you're older,
(26:06):
you're going to be more fragile. You're not going to
be quicker at forty four than you were you know,
a few years ago or definitely a decade or so ago.
But I am curious, like, what are the lingering effects
that you just know if you if you have this
idea of Okay, I can play this rookie that maybe
has hobbled, or I can bring in this guy with
all this experience, what is it that they bring to
(26:26):
the table besides just experience, What do you know is
still going to play in today's game if he can
not get crushed and hurt, Well, I think.
Speaker 7 (26:35):
He's going to do the right thing. He's going to
make good decisions. Unlike you know, we saw we saw
a young guy play for Minnesota and it just was
a disaster. And so he's going to you're going to
see good decisions if he plays, but the fact that
he has been out five years that'll factor into that
just a little bit in my opinion. And then physically,
(26:59):
you know, if they saw in practice or they've seen
him throw and do some things that allow him or
allow them to make the decision to start him, then
you know, I guess he's gonna you know, they feel
he can be a better choice. But oh gosh, buck,
you know it's a I just hell, it'll be interesting
(27:21):
to see. It'll be really an interesting story.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Would you think that you would have to hit him
before he plays on Sunday? I mean, ever since the
invention of the red jersey, I don't think anyone, any
quarterback at any level has been tackled in practice, high school,
college or pro. But considering what the men he's going
up against the speed of the game, that there's no
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chance that he can remember five years removed, hasn't had
a collision in those five years. Would you have to say, Philip,
we're gonna crash test dummy this thing. I need you
to take a hit before Sunday. I don't want your
first hit to be on Sunday. Would you be contempl that.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
No. No, But I I think if I if coach
had mentioned that to him, listen, before you sign your
contract to this is how we're going to do it,
he'd go, Then I'm not signing it, you know, I
don't don't don't hit me before the game. I'll handle
it right, I'll do it. I'll handle it right in
the game. Don't worry. But that's the concern everyone, most
(28:22):
people have that know the game, that how is he
going to do this? How is he going to react?
And like I said, if anybody could handle it, he
can yea, But that I think it's a long shot.
Speaker 9 (28:33):
Guys, I'm with you. I I mean, this is a
game that you would think now. I mean, when he played,
he had Ladanian Tomlinson, and he's he's had good running
backs before and so and yet when he was in
his prime, you couldn't just stack the box and say, oh,
we're gonna we're not gonna worry about him beating us.
But I would think that this week would be different.
I would think that they're like Jonathan Taylor were stacking
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the box. He's not doing anything against us, We're going
to contain him. And yet is there still a fear
of that might be playing into his hand of allowing
him to do uh more, is it one of those
sit back and just don't let them move down the
field on you?
Speaker 7 (29:12):
I think the approach would be stopped to run first,
because they they are really good at running ball, and
stop the run first, and then we'll just play defense
with Philip our normal thing, and we'll get to the
quarterback and we can do that. But our emphasis would
be to stop the run, force him, force them to
throw the ball, force them to get first down throwing
(29:34):
the ball. That has to be their approach in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, I'd put eleven in the box. Just put everybody
in the box.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
Yeah, but also, you know what, but you know you
also put out your Christmas tree early. So let's start.
Let's think of good let's think of good decisions.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Now, Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Uh well, he's I hate to make this whole thing
about Philip Rivers, but I think it's.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
The whole story here.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Did he ever, he's famous for talking trash without cussing.
Did he ever trash talk to you over there on
the sidelines.
Speaker 7 (30:12):
No. No. My My thing with my thing with Philip
is that Norm Chow was his college coach and phoned
me and said, I've got a young quarterback, professional quarterback.
He's really good, but he delivers the ball almost side armim.
It's a really funny delivery. I'm going to send you
some film. Tell me what you think. So I said,
(30:32):
I saw the film when he was young, and I said,
you know, he's really good. But it's been my experience
if you try and change the guy's motion, it doesn't work.
So if he's accurate and his timing's good, don't change anything.
And I don't and Norman they did, They didn't, and
Philip played his whole career that way. If you're watching
long film, he delivers the ball just a little differently,
(30:54):
but it works. It worked for a long time.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Are you surprised that it worked.
Speaker 7 (30:59):
A little bit. Yeah, yeah, because you know, the ball's lower,
it comes off lower. You would think there'd be a
lot of black block passes and tip balls and stuff
like that. But you know, he was really good for
a long time.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Yeah, he's tough, he's smart, accurate, Yeah, he's he was
a football player. There's no question about that. Uh, well,
it should be interesting. Can't wait to recap it with you.
On Monday morning. So thank you, enjoy your weekend, and
we'll talk to you Monday.
Speaker 7 (31:29):
Yeah. Can I go back to bed now, can man? Sure?
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yeah? Please?
Speaker 7 (31:33):
All right, I'll good. I'll see him Monday.
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Speaker 2 (32:17):
Not a bass catalog of Heisman music.
Speaker 14 (32:20):
I thought maybe there was like a their theme song,
though I tried to find that, but it's just a
bunch of rappers who have made Heisman songs.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Hmmm.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
No.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
I was like, I'm not interested in that.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Yeah, the Beach Boys didn't put together a Heisman song.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
That I would have listened to one of their big hits.
Speaker 7 (32:35):
Me.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I wish they could be husband winners.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
That would be a better one.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Uh yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Huey Lewis had to have made I would think he
wrote every song, right, he had to have made a
road a Heisman song at some point if there is one,
Hugh he.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Wrote it, yeah, obviously and singing it and did the background.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, of course, Uh, Hugh.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Mellon's gonna join us at nine o'clock with x's and o's.
But the Heisman Trophy is gonna be handed out tomorrow.
The expectation is that it's going to be Indiana's Fernando Mendoza.
We've been talking about him all year long in this
segment because this is when we usually do our Big
Ten preview, and so this is kind of our version
of a Big Ten preview.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Eight forty five on Fridays.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Is a Big Ten quarterback him or Julian say I'm
gonna win the Heisman this year?
Speaker 9 (33:19):
I would think, I mean, he's a huge favorite to
win it, and understandably so. That Diego Pavia is interesting
what he does. I mean, it's most valuable to their team.
I mean, I think the most valuable player for Indiana
is Signetti the coach. Oh, I mean he obviously is
pretty amazing. The Hesman though, no he can't win it,
(33:40):
and yet the Diego Pavia guy. I mean, what he
does for his team is unbelievable, but I would think
it's going to be for Nando.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Mendoza and then I'm.
Speaker 9 (33:50):
All for it because I can't wait to hear his
horrendous interview after US because it's bad. It's not just
the bad one after the Big Ten Championship game. I
watched him do like a exposit, like a sit down
interview before, like a week before, and I'm just like,
I think it's gross.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I think he's going to be the number one pick
in the draft.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
I don't think that's going to throw off scouts and
general managers from taking him number one because I think
it's going to be a pretty weak quarterback draft this year,
but it will be discussed.
Speaker 7 (34:24):
Well.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
It's it's like, I mean, like a leader.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
I mean, his teammates seem to love him, but like
grown men in a locker room that hear that kind
of speech, What do you think?
Speaker 2 (34:36):
I mean? Russell Wilson is pretty big dork too, and
he was good when he was here.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Smooth dork, Like his interviews were smooth Mendoza's was like.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
It's true team god glue stare into the camera like, dude,
have you never done this before? Well, I'm sure he has, because,
like I said, I've seen two of them just as
of recently. They're both just really not good.
Speaker 9 (35:03):
He's not good at nice And yes, you can end
up leading guys, you just have to be able to perform.
You're not going to be the one that they're asking
to go kick it afterwards, which is fine, stay in
your playbook.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
I think there was a reason that he wanted his
like linebacker buddy to like speak because that guy was great. Yeah,
the one that stepped in and led the song at
the end of the National Championship. Well, I don't think
the Heisman voters are going to hold his interview.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Skills against them likely, So.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
I do think he's going to win, But I don't
know if I would encourage people to bet money on it,
because I think there is a chance, and a pretty
sound one, that Diego Pavia ends up stealing this thing
from him. I mean, nine hundred and fifty voters for
this thing. But I'll just tell you, leading up to Heisman,
maybe people are just bored with the Fernando Mendoza, you know,
(35:56):
favorite to win the Heisman conversation. But the guys that
I've been hearing interviewed and have interviewed, like Rick new Isil,
they seem to be leaning toward thinking Pavia should be
the Heisman Trophy winner.
Speaker 14 (36:10):
I like that there's some you know, it's not just
a runaway, because otherwise it just feels also like why
even bother inviting the other guys just to sit there
when there's when they have no chance.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Sometimes I feel like that's what happens, and it seems silly.
This year, I don't feel like that's the case exactly.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
I think there is a chance.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
When's the last time we got surprised by a Heisman
Trophy winner announcement?
Speaker 4 (36:30):
I don't even remember.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
I don't either. I mean, maybe I'm just prisoner of
the moment, but I don't even remember the last time
I was surprised by a Heisman trophy announcement.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
So maybe this would maybe we're gonna get one on Saturday.
I wouldn't rule it out.
Speaker 9 (36:45):
I wouldn't rule it out either, And I mean, for
what it's worth, a lot of times of the dual
threat quarterback is like ends up getting the NOD and
that diego Pavia. Like the last game, if it's if
they were if it was heads up, and you're like, oh,
well he went and won the Big Ten in Ohio State.
That's impressive. Pavia through for two sixty eight and ran
for one sixty five in his last game against Tennessee
(37:07):
not a bad team.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Well, Mendoza won the Big Ten title over the number
one ranked team in the country and made the Heisman throw,
So he left a pretty good last impression too.
Speaker 9 (37:16):
I'm just saying I think that there's more of a
conversation than typical. Typically at this point, a lot of
times you just have kind of a clear cut winner,
and I almost know for certain that everybody went that direction.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Yeah, I think there's a chance at an upset. And
I'll say another factor in there being a chance of
an upset, people do get bored if there's been a
long time favorite, right, they do like, yeah, because they
want to be the first person that says something other
than Fernando Mendoz as my Heisman pick. And so again,
(37:50):
nine hundred and fifty voters, how many of them potentially
might vote for Pavia just because Mendoza has been the
favorite for so long and they wanted to do something
differently at the midnight hour. There's a chance he could
snag this thing away. I don't think there's any chance,
Julian saying wins and nor should he fifth best player
(38:11):
on his team for goodness sake. But and I don't
think Jeremiah Loves got a chance either. They'll show up,
they'll go through the pomp and circumstance, have their families
interviewed and all that stuff. But I do believe Diego
Pavi has got a reason to be there. He just
might snag this thing away from Fernando Mendoza. That would
be shocking. It would be shocking, even though even though
(38:33):
I'm preparing people for it, it still would be shocking
to see that happen at the last second.
Speaker 9 (38:37):
I mean, I think that there's maybe not an argument.
I think he probably will win, and it probably is
the right choice, just taking Indiana to where they're at
right now, the number one team in the nation. And
it's not it's not in spite of him, Like if
Julian saying, if you were if they were still the
number one team, you would be like and it's because
of Julian saying, I mean it's because of him and
leading the team and doing what he's done. And yet
(38:58):
I mean, there's gonna be some people that it will
vote for the love Kid because he pretty amazing. Now,
typically running backs just don't get it anymore, but we
did just come off a year where a dual threat
guy want it, and so I don't know a dual threat.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah, I think a couple people will vote for him,
but I don't think he's going to come anywhere close.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
I don't think he will either. That's just the nature
of the award nowadays. So I'm with you. I think
that he's gonna win, but I wouldn't be surprised if
it went another direction.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
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Philip Rivers is undoubtedly our number one story, believe it
or not. The Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
If you're just if you just you know, hey, what's
going on in the world out there. I've been meditating
for the last five days at a rock and a
tent with Aaron Rodgers nightmare. If that's where you've been, well,
well there's a story here that we're dealing with here
in Seattle. The Seahawks this Sunday are going to take
on the Indianapolis Colts, led by potentially quarterback Philip Rivers.
(01:12):
The forty four year old is five years removed from
the National Football League, hasn't played in five years. It
was on the Hall of Fame ballot as we speak,
but he is going to try and play football again.
Because of the Daniel Jones and Riley Leonard injuries last
week for Indianapolis, they didn't have a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
They gave Philip Rivers a call.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
They asked if he would like to give it a go,
and he says, Dad, gummet, why not? Literally what he said.
And so it's been the talk of the football world.
What is this going to look like? On Sunday? Yesterday
we had a chance to chat with Kurt Warner, who
went through a similar experience a few years ago. After
(01:56):
his career was over. The Cardinals were kicking the tires
on maybe bringing him out of retirement. So we had
to contemplate this himself. So he was the perfect guest
to get on yesterday to talk about this Philip Rivers situation.
And so we'll start with the part of the conversation
with Kurt Warner yesterday and that when that's when I
(02:17):
just asked him, can Philip Rivers pull this thing off?
Speaker 6 (02:20):
I mean, I can't answer that because I've never been there,
and I don't know who who has, you know, I
mean it it obviously sounds crazy, you know. I do remember,
you know, a number of years after I retired, but
the Cardinals here, we're having some issues with the quarterbacks
and some injuries, and you know, there were a speculation
(02:41):
and maybe they should call Kurt. I remember going out
in the backyard and throwing the football around a little bit, like, hey,
if they call, you know, you know, will I entertain it?
And all of those things. So, you know, I kind
of remember back to a few years after being out
of the league, and you know, my biggest issue wasn't
the physical part of it in terms of you know,
(03:02):
throwing a football or or being in shape. My biggest
worry and concern was the mental aspect of you know,
being able to get up to speed. So you know, A,
I could have success, B I could protect myself from
that standpoint. You know that that, you know, being out
(03:24):
of the game for five years and understanding you know,
the athletes in the game and what it takes to
play at that level.
Speaker 7 (03:33):
You know.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
I mean, to me, it would be an incredible feed
for him to come back after a week and get
out there and and perform extremely well. I mean probably
even to you know, to perform at an average level
after that would be pretty incredible because I respect the
game so much, you know that, even when I was
(03:55):
considered it, you know, it was like, man, there was
nothing in my mind that said, oh, I can step
back on that field and in the short term be
the same player I was, you know years ago. I
just respect the game and what it is, and you
know what it takes to be great at this level.
I respected it too much to think that I could
(04:15):
be great, you know quickly. You know that I think
I could get up the speed and get back there.
Well yeah, I mean I think all of us competitors
think that. But that's kind of what I look at
here is, man. You know, I respect Philip for giving
it a shot, and you know, for them to you know,
try to uncover everything to have success.
Speaker 8 (04:35):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
And I think like most of us, we're intrigued, we're excited,
were interested, We just wanted to end at least fairly well,
you know, like that's my biggest thing is I just
don't want this to be a bad thing, you know.
And you know, I should say another thing that I
was concerned about, you know when when I was even
just considering it, and the Cardinals never called it, So
(04:56):
it was never anything like like this with Philip. But
the other other thing was just you know, the reaction
of your body to things that you haven't done. Like
I didn't want to be a guy that went back
out there and like you know, pull the hamstring or
pull the muscle or or hurt something, you know, in
the first ten plays of my first hit because my
(05:17):
body wasn't ready you know, for a quick movement or
to take a hit or whatever that was. And so
that was another concern of mine. And so I think
that's the big concern for me. You know, he goes
out there, is I don't want it to be you know,
so anticlimacting and he comes back and he gets hurt,
and you know, it may be what we all expect.
And I don't want him to go out there and
(05:38):
just get beat up because he's just not mentally able
to you know, to handle the speed and everything that's
coming at him, and the new offense and all of
that stuff. And so I think there are some distinct
challenges without a doubt, and you have to respect the
game enough to to just say, you know, I think
it will be hard, you know, for any to come
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back and have you know, a level of success in
such a short period of time.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
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Speaker 2 (06:11):
I take it.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
I've taken it even further than I think anybody else.
I think most people are coming on here and saying
how hard it's going to be, and I think it's
going to be impossible. And it's because of the position.
I mean, Marshawn Lynch came back. How long was he out?
Two three years? And he came taking a handoff and
running it into a whole. I think that's possible. But
(06:34):
I requate quate like Bucky this, this goes right to
you quarterback position being so complex and having so much responsibility.
I would equate this to like a baseball player trying
to come back like Prince Fielder. Prince Fielder has been
removed from the game for about five years. Imagine if hey,
(06:56):
would you like to give it a shot again? We
really need a first basement. Okay, how long do I
have to get ready? Five days?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Okay, well, can I face the live pitching? No, because
we can't risk you getting hurt. You can only go
in a cage. You can go into a cage as
much as you want, but we're not going to throw
at the speed of the pitches that you're going to
face because we can't risk you getting hurt because that
would just undo all of it. Oh okay, well, am
(07:25):
I at least facing a bad pitcher. No, you're facing
the best picture in the league, Derek Schooble. That's who
you're facing this week. Like, I think it sounds Prince
Fielder would go zero for four with four strikeouts under
that in that scenario, And I think Philip Rivers.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
And I like Philip Rivers unlike you. I like Philip Rivers.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I think he stands no chance of having success on Sunday. Well,
I mean more than likely he would go for with
four strikeouts. You're right, more than likely, But there is
a chance that he would lock up on there's a
chance Okay, so there's a chance Philip Rivers could lock
up on a deep throw.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, there's a chance that he could do.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
I'm not saying he can't complete a pass, but in
terms of can he have a successful day quarterbacking in
the National Football League, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Well. So to me, it's there's there's a part of it.
Speaker 9 (08:19):
It's a great analogy because yes, it's the idea of
are you going to be successful? Far fetched, very far
fetched because of all of the things that go into it.
The idea of playing quarterback, to correlating it to like
a baseball player would be like, okay, if it wasn't
Prince Fielder, if it was somebody that actually knew how
to bunt and had bunted in their life. A successful
(08:41):
day you might get just lay one down. You might
be able to there's other things you could do outside
of locking up and squaring one up one hundred percent. Now,
hitting a baseball is more difficult than dumping it off
to a running back or throwing to a bubble screen,
or you know, a little hook by your tight end
and you see that he's open, and there happened to
be a clear lane right there. He can do that
(09:02):
in his sleep until he's fifty five years old. Now,
what Kurt Warner's talking about, like the risk of boy
just popping a hamstring just because you're not used to
quick agile moves. Not that you were quick in agile
four or five years ago when you played so, but
you were used to taking collisions. Yeah, oh yeah, I
mean you're used to the speed of the game. Oh
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my god, Yeah, there's a I mean, I'm not going
to sit here and say that it's far fetch. I've
used the analogy before of like, how just taking an
off season off and then I go into spring training
and how fast it seems, just the simple playing catch
And then you stand in the batter's box in the
first like few days. You don't even get to hit.
You just have to stand there like a crash test dummy,
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hoping that this dude that's winging it at you doesn't
let it fly since he's had some time off. It
seems it's not relative. The speed isn't relative. It seems
too fast. Now that said, there was the one year
that broke my wrist, and then I went straight from
having no practice at all down to Venezuela to play
and I end up hitting seven home runs in seven games.
But the game was way fast right there, Like it
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did not feel normal, didn't feel like I was on
my game. And yet probably one of my hottest streaks
I've ever had, simply because the fact that I could
still swing and if I ran into it, it could
do I could still do damage.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
That the potential is still there, the likelihood of that.
Speaker 9 (10:23):
If you would ask me to do that every single offseason,
take six months off and then no practice, go play
in Venezuela, chances are I'm gonna go oh for thirty
five or one for thirty five and.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Not hit any home runs.
Speaker 9 (10:34):
Just so it's that's where I'm not so far as
it's impossible, it's just far fast.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I'm gonna take one off season and then we're going
to exaggerate that to five full years. And you're not
a twenty four year old, You're a forty four year old, right,
Like you would not have had that streak in Venezuela, Right, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Would not have had that streak.
Speaker 9 (10:53):
But to think that I couldn't even I mean right now, no,
because I can't see the ball. But I mean to
think that you couldn't go out there and still have
a moment where you just it's fast against fast, and
you're like, but I'm muscle memory. I'll give my winging
in there, and maybe a guy makes a great catch
next thing. You know, you have that five times and
you could win a go ball game.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I'll give him that. I think that he could have
a moment.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I think he could complete a pass deep down field
or I'm okay, there we go, and I think he's
also going to throw three pick sixes and get sacked
twelve times.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
No, that's I just I hope I'm wrong. I said
this earlier. I really do.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I mean, I want the Seahawks to win, and I
think that they're going to no matter what Philip Rivers does.
But I hope I'm wrong because I want this to
be a happy ending. I want I want to see
some success. I want this to be It's gonna be
far more interesting if he has success and versus he
just falls completely on his face or gets hurt or
something like that.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Just so she was doing it against another team, so
I could support him.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
More Seahawks colts Greg Bell was with us an hour ago,
and of course everything funnels through this Philip Rivers store.
And still we ask Greg for what the key is
going to be in this game.
Speaker 10 (12:04):
If Indianapolis can do with really no team including the
Rams and forty nine ers have done on the Seahucks,
and let's run the ball early on early downs. If
they can do that and make Rivers' third down third
and two instead of third and ten, then the Colts
have a chance. But nobody yet has done that. Some
of the reasons the Seahawks are third or fourth in
the league and all the metrics for defense is because
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teams just don't try them because they're done by two
scores in the first half. So can the Colts keep
Taylor producing to a level that Philip Rivers doesn't have
to drop back forty times in long yardage to win?
Because I mean, come on, as great as Philip Rivers
is going to end up being in the Hall of Fame,
how he has sent you can't expect him to throw
forty times in long yardage against any defense, especially Mike
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McDonald's one of the best NFL defense is going right
now to win. So that's where the Seahawks game plan
is starting. Is Jonathan Taylor unfits tackling Mike Donald made
the point this week that Taylor is the fastest running
back they've played. He breaks tackles and he gets away
from you when you break the tackles. So it's really
key for Seattle. It's short tackling at the line of
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scrimmage because this guy, even more than Beshawn Robbinson, he'll
get away from you if you'll tackle him.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Craig Bell with us an hour ago. He'll uh more
on Greg here in a moment. Hawks into the game
at thirteen and a half point favorite. It opened to
three and a half, so the Daniel Jones injury has
changed it by ten points. I still don't think it's enough.
I'm expecting the Seahawks to smack him. Kick off is
at one twenty five on Sunday. I just we got
other things to get I just say one other thing
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if he does have success, because believe me, there are
a lot of recently retired since Philip Rivers has retired quarterbacks,
and they sit around all the time thinking wonder if
I could do this again. If he does have success
on Sunday, don't be's prized. If like three four guys
decide I'm gonna work out this offseason.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I'm gonna play again like.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
A Roethlisberger or a even a like I wouldn't be
surprised if three or four quarterbacks, if he has them six,
they're gonna use him as.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Their dinna pig. If he gets demolished, to'll be like, oh,
I'm not gonna do that again.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Glad it was him and me.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
But if they, if they are watching and he has success,
I'll bet you three or four retired quarterbacks are like.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I'm gonna get back in shape. I miss it.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I missed the guys, I missed the clubhouse, I missed
the action. I'm gonna I'm gonna give this a shot.
Philip just motivated me.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (14:24):
Well, I mean the idea of missing it. I think
every athlete goes through. But whatever it takes for a
Tom Brady to eventually hang it up, even Philip rivers.
I mean his last year he had went eleven and
five with the coach, went to the playoffs. There was
there's something where was like, I just Dovid do this.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
It was Covid you didn't want to do he was
thinking about retirement anyway.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
He was like, well, I'm not doing this. I'm just
gonna go hang it up.
Speaker 9 (14:46):
Yeah, well that was twenty twenty. Wasn't that the year
they played? Wasn't that the COVID year anyway? I mean,
he's he's Eventually everybody's like, Okay, I've done enough. I
made my money. It hurts too much. I don't want
to be singularly focused. I have fifteen kids I want
to spend some time with, and so I'm with you.
I think that there's a lot of guys that might
get a little bit intrigued by the idea of going
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back there if they didn't leave because the game said,
you need to retire, you're no longer any good.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
We Number fifteen of the National Football League season got
started last night Thursday Night Football in Tampa, Florida, where
the Falcons shocked the Buccaneers by a final score of
twenty nine to twenty eight. It knocked the Buccaneers out
of first place, and it put Todd Bulls in a
really terrible mood.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
You tell them in locker forgiven it.
Speaker 11 (15:32):
It's inexcusable. You don't make excuses. You gotta care enough
where it hurts. You gotta care enough where it hurts.
It got to mean something to you. It's more than
a job, it's your livelihood. How well do you know
your job? How well can you do your job?
Speaker 7 (15:48):
Well?
Speaker 11 (15:48):
You can't sugarcoat that. It was inexcusable and there's no
for it. It's for no excuse for it. That's what
you're telling them in a lot looking in the mirror.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Wow, I was so nervous that I missed.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
One I have.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I've never heard Todd Bowles cuss once. I just heard
him cuss a thousand times in twenty seconds.
Speaker 9 (16:09):
I don't think he's very happy when your team is
on the edge of you know, their division, you know,
top of their division and fighting for a playoff spot,
and you cough up a fourteen point fourth quarter lead
against the.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Bad team an arrival. Yeah, not at home? Yeah he was.
He was not happy.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Nope, I say, Kyle Pitts had a career, night boy.
You picked a bad week to face Kyle Pitts in
Fantasy football playoffs. Eleven catches, one hundred and sixty six
yards and three touchdowns for the former top ten pick
tied end for the Atlanta Falcons, so twenty nine to
twenty eight. The final score that scars and they still
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got a chance to still win the division. Hopefully, Todd
Bowles pottymouth grant. We'll get into them, because Carolina is
not going to run away with this thing, that's for sure.
This Sunday great lineup. Just some of the highlighted games.
Buffalo at New England earlier in the afternoon, Detroit at
the Rams, Packers at Broncos, and then Sunday night, not
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a very good game, Vikings at Dallas taking on the Cowboys.
College football. It is Army Navy Week and I want
ah recruit.
Speaker 9 (17:25):
I'm picturing that song playing over just one of those
kind of square gray bullhorn speakers while he was doing
the Army crowl Yes this morning.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
That it is just one speakers sounds bad, but they're
singing it. That's his real dark secret.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
He and all of his Army buddies hated their time
so much that they sing in the Navy. They dress
up as the village people and sing in the Navy
every chance to think. When they get together, Greg and
Jess are in Baltimore. They're gonna have a show today
from noon to three, so make sure you check it out.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Greg just absolutely loves.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
This game, this weekend, this experience, and they're going to
do a great show today, specialty show from noon to three.
Heisman Trophy will be rewarded at four o'clock on Saturday,
So right after Army Navy, you've got the Heisman. Fernando
Mendoza is expected to win it, but Diego pave Up
might actually have a chance, the Vanderbilt quarterback of pulling
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this thing off. And then the first ball game will
be played tomorrow and it involves the Huskies. Huskies versus
Boise State to kick off bowl season. It is the
La Bowl at five o'clock. College football. We can't get
out of the college football world without updating you on
Sharon Moore. Earlier this week, scandal hit ann Arbor.
Speaker 12 (18:44):
Former University of Michigan football coach Sharone Moore. He is
expected in court today and he was arrested hours after
the school fired him this week for what it says
was an improper relationship with a staff member.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
And this morning new Emergency.
Speaker 12 (18:59):
Dispatch audio sheds light on the details of Moore's arrest
and Muse Nation's Ryan Bass with us now. So Ryan,
good morning. What did we learn from these recordings? A
huge story.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Here, Kelly.
Speaker 8 (19:12):
I'll tell you this dispatch audio is quite unsettling, and
it paints a real time picture of what police say
is the alleged assault that happened just hours before Moore
was arrested. Now, it's a shocking fall from grace from
a once rising star in the sport of college football.
ESPN's Pete Famil reporting that the situation had been percolating
for weeks, and then Moore had actually been acting strange,
(19:35):
even berating some assistance in the days leading up to
his firing. Nowhere yet on the timing of his arraignment today, Kelly,
But obviously that audio it's pretty unsettling when you listen
to it, and so we'll find out more today and
see if Moore actually ends up policing a statement as well.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
What they're saying is it was the worst kept secret
on campus. Everybody had known it for a long time.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
What was going on.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Caitlin de Boor has shot down any and all possibility
of taking this job, and of course, we one hundred
percent always believe Calin de Bore he.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Would never leave.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Never.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Jedfish's name has also been mentioned prominently. Unless I missed it,
I don't think Jed's reacted to this and he's not.
He's not entitled to. I hope that it's Jed's like
not again. I don't want to talk about this anymore.
But who knows for what it's worth. Michigan is intending
to make a great hire. That was their statement yesterday,
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as opposed to we're gonna really blow this as for more,
he remains in custody for an aggravated assault charge. He
is expected to have his day in court today. College basketball,
you dub will play tomorrow. They're coming off their biggest
win of the Sprinkle era.
Speaker 13 (20:44):
Nice won over Peterson. It's short in USC is undefeated
no longer. The Huskies rip off the second biggest comeback
in Washington basketball history from eighteen down to an eight
point winner in the entertainment capital of the world, Washington
eighty four, twenty fourth rank, USC seventy six.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Our friend Tony Castrick own calling it out there. Huge
win for the Fighting Sprinkles. At six and three, The
Dogs set to host Southern Utah tomorrow at three. The
Zags are going to host UCLA at eight thirty tomorrow.
Coogs will be in action Sunday at four point thirty
against USC. They can they can't beat the Huskies, So
what makes them think they can be the coops?
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Right?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Uh, Kraken and Mammoth are going to be taking the
ice here tonight. The Kraken coming off their biggest win
of the year, a three two comeback win in overtime
over LA.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Can they turn it into momentum?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Seattle at Utah tonight at six o'clock, And this will
mark the first time the Kraken had faced Utah since
they were named.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
You have a great name.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
You must kill your name before he kills you.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Oh jeez, that seems extreme aggressive. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yeah, this is the first time that we faced them
as the Mammoth, is it not?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
I believe so. I think they got named before the
start of this this season.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Yeah, yeah, I love the name. By the way, love
the name Mammoth.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
That's a good one.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah. So that's to night at six o'clock.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
And if you want to check out the latest episode
of Stove with anders Hurst and myself, that'll get you
up to date on all of the Mariners off season news,
you can check that out at ninety three to three
kjar dot com. Coming up next, He's coming on a
little early on this Friday. Mike Holmgren will be with
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Speaker 2 (23:04):
Now, Mike Congrin with Chuck and Buck.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
If you run your Friday errands with us and you're
sitting here wondering, oh my gosh, where did I lose
an hour?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Why is coach? Is it nine to thirty already? I'm
supposed to be at the you know, the.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Bagel shop by now, well, guess what it's on the
eight thirty coach coming on a little early.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
So sorry to.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Throw you off your game out there. Yeah, but yeah,
your clock's fine. It is eight thirty. Coaches just coming
on early.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Today. That's nice. I like having eight thirty coome onrning coach.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
Good morning, guys. No, I'm sorry, Yeah, I have to
do it a little earlier today, and I apologize. Don't apologize,
Thanks for thanks for squeezing me in.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah, don't apologize. I'm just telling Bucket. I kind of
like having coach on at eight thirty on Friday. I
think I might want to do this permanently, force you
to get up an hour earlier every week.
Speaker 7 (23:57):
Let's not get carried away. I think I think I
think one's one's good.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
All right, you're gonna have to tell me what you
think of this Philip Rivers story. I mean, I seem
to be the most extreme person at the station, thinking
that he can't possibly have success on Sunday. You tell me,
you know quarterbacks better than anyone five years removed from
the game, forty four years old, two practices his How
(24:24):
on Earth is he going to have a chance of
being successful Sunday?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Coach?
Speaker 7 (24:28):
You know, I kind of agree with you, Chuck. I
think it's going to be really hard, particularly against the Seahawks.
But you have a great pass rush, great defense. Excuse me,
be but if anyone could do it. If anyone ever
could do this, which I'm doubtful. He's the guy now
I've known him a little bit over the years, and
(24:50):
is he quite possibly could do something like this, But
it is a long shot. You know, he's at his
age and he hasn't been hit in a long time.
And you know, now, the one thing they have going
for them, I have. They have a really good rushing attack.
And so if he does play, I don't think as
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it come out that he's going to start.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
It has not officially come out, but most people seem
to think that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 7 (25:19):
Yeah, I would think so too. And if he does play,
then you're going to see an offense that's pretty controlled.
Hopefully their defense plays well and then they run the
ball a lot. And so I'm sure Mike mcconald knows
that better than anybody. But I'm kind of with you.
I just pray, you know, he's a good guy, he
really is, and the and I just hope he doesn't
(25:41):
get hurt.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Yeah, I'm with you. I hope he doesn't get hurt
as well.
Speaker 9 (25:44):
And it's far fetched, er a long shot as how
you put it, that he's going to be able to
go out there and do it, not just because he's
been off for four and a half years, but because
he's going against the Seahawks defense and it's going to
be different. But I would I'm curious, what do you
think are the ling like benefits if somebody plays seventeen
years in the NFL as a quarterback. Obviously, the you're older,
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you're going to be more fragile. You're not going to
be quicker at forty four than you were you know,
a few years ago or definitely a decade or so ago.
But I am curious, like, what are the lingering effects
that you just know if you if you have this
idea of Okay, I can play this rookie that maybe
has hobbled, or I can bring in this guy with
all this experience, what is it that they bring to
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the table besides just experience, What do you know is
still going to play in today's game if he can
not get crushed and hurt, Well, I think.
Speaker 7 (26:35):
He's going to do the right thing. He's going to
make good decisions. Unlike you know, we saw we saw
a young guy play for Minnesota and it just was
a disaster. And so he's going to you're going to
see good decisions if he plays, but the fact that
he has been out five years that'll factor into that
just a little bit in my opinion. And then physically,
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you know, if they saw in practice or they've seen
him throw and do some things that allow him or
allow them to make the decision to start him, then
you know, I guess he's gonna you know, they feel
he can be a better choice. But oh gosh, buck,
you know it's a I just hell, it'll be interesting
(27:21):
to see. It'll be really an interesting story.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Would you think that you would have to hit him
before he plays on Sunday? I mean, ever since the
invention of the red jersey, I don't think anyone, any
quarterback at any level has been tackled in practice, high school,
college or pro. But considering what the men he's going
up against the speed of the game, that there's no
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chance that he can remember five years removed, hasn't had
a collision in those five years. Would you have to say, Philip,
we're gonna crash test dummy this thing. I need you
to take a hit before Sunday. I don't want your
first hit to be on Sunday. Would you be contempl that.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
No. No, But I I think if I if coach
had mentioned that to him, listen, before you sign your
contract to this is how we're going to do it,
he'd go, Then I'm not signing it, you know, I
don't don't don't hit me before the game. I'll handle
it right, I'll do it. I'll handle it right in
the game. Don't worry. But that's the concern everyone, most
(28:22):
people have that know the game, that how is he
going to do this? How is he going to react?
And like I said, if anybody could handle it, he
can yea, But that I think it's a long shot.
Speaker 9 (28:33):
Guys, I'm with you. I I mean, this is a
game that you would think now. I mean, when he played,
he had Ladanian Tomlinson, and he's he's had good running
backs before and so and yet when he was in
his prime, you couldn't just stack the box and say, oh,
we're gonna we're not gonna worry about him beating us.
But I would think that this week would be different.
I would think that they're like Jonathan Taylor were stacking
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the box. He's not doing anything against us, We're going
to contain him. And yet is there still a fear
of that might be playing into his hand of allowing
him to do uh more, is it one of those
sit back and just don't let them move down the
field on you?
Speaker 7 (29:12):
I think the approach would be stopped to run first,
because they they are really good at running ball, and
stop the run first, and then we'll just play defense
with Philip our normal thing, and we'll get to the
quarterback and we can do that. But our emphasis would
be to stop the run, force him, force them to
throw the ball, force them to get first down throwing
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the ball. That has to be their approach in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, I'd put eleven in the box. Just put everybody
in the box.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
Yeah, but also, you know what, but you know you
also put out your Christmas tree early. So let's start.
Let's think of good let's think of good decisions.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Now, Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Uh well, he's I hate to make this whole thing
about Philip Rivers, but I think it's.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
The whole story here.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Did he ever, he's famous for talking trash without cussing.
Did he ever trash talk to you over there on
the sidelines.
Speaker 7 (30:12):
No. No. My My thing with my thing with Philip
is that Norm Chow was his college coach and phoned
me and said, I've got a young quarterback, professional quarterback.
He's really good, but he delivers the ball almost side armim.
It's a really funny delivery. I'm going to send you
some film. Tell me what you think. So I said,
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I saw the film when he was young, and I said,
you know, he's really good. But it's been my experience
if you try and change the guy's motion, it doesn't work.
So if he's accurate and his timing's good, don't change anything.
And I don't and Norman they did, They didn't, and
Philip played his whole career that way. If you're watching
long film, he delivers the ball just a little differently,
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but it works. It worked for a long time.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Are you surprised that it worked.
Speaker 7 (30:59):
A little bit. Yeah, yeah, because you know, the ball's lower,
it comes off lower. You would think there'd be a
lot of black block passes and tip balls and stuff
like that. But you know, he was really good for
a long time.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Yeah, he's tough, he's smart, accurate, Yeah, he's he was
a football player. There's no question about that. Uh, well,
it should be interesting. Can't wait to recap it with you.
On Monday morning. So thank you, enjoy your weekend, and
we'll talk to you Monday.
Speaker 7 (31:29):
Yeah. Can I go back to bed now, can man? Sure?
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yeah? Please?
Speaker 7 (31:33):
All right, I'll good. I'll see him Monday.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
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Speaker 2 (32:17):
Not a bass catalog of Heisman music.
Speaker 14 (32:20):
I thought maybe there was like a their theme song,
though I tried to find that, but it's just a
bunch of rappers who have made Heisman songs.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Hmmm.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
No.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
I was like, I'm not interested in that.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Yeah, the Beach Boys didn't put together a Heisman song.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
That I would have listened to one of their big hits.
Speaker 7 (32:35):
Me.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I wish they could be husband winners.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
That would be a better one.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Uh yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Huey Lewis had to have made I would think he
wrote every song, right, he had to have made a
road a Heisman song at some point if there is one,
Hugh he.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Wrote it, yeah, obviously and singing it and did the background.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, of course, Uh, Hugh.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Mellon's gonna join us at nine o'clock with x's and o's.
But the Heisman Trophy is gonna be handed out tomorrow.
The expectation is that it's going to be Indiana's Fernando Mendoza.
We've been talking about him all year long in this
segment because this is when we usually do our Big
Ten preview, and so this is kind of our version
of a Big Ten preview.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Eight forty five on Fridays.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Is a Big Ten quarterback him or Julian say I'm
gonna win the Heisman this year?
Speaker 9 (33:19):
I would think, I mean, he's a huge favorite to
win it, and understandably so. That Diego Pavia is interesting
what he does. I mean, it's most valuable to their team.
I mean, I think the most valuable player for Indiana
is Signetti the coach. Oh, I mean he obviously is
pretty amazing. The Hesman though, no he can't win it,
(33:40):
and yet the Diego Pavia guy. I mean, what he
does for his team is unbelievable, but I would think
it's going to be for Nando.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Mendoza and then I'm.
Speaker 9 (33:50):
All for it because I can't wait to hear his
horrendous interview after US because it's bad. It's not just
the bad one after the Big Ten Championship game. I
watched him do like a exposit, like a sit down
interview before, like a week before, and I'm just like,
I think it's gross.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I think he's going to be the number one pick
in the draft.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
I don't think that's going to throw off scouts and
general managers from taking him number one because I think
it's going to be a pretty weak quarterback draft this year,
but it will be discussed.
Speaker 7 (34:24):
Well.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
It's it's like, I mean, like a leader.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
I mean, his teammates seem to love him, but like
grown men in a locker room that hear that kind
of speech, What do you think?
Speaker 2 (34:36):
I mean? Russell Wilson is pretty big dork too, and
he was good when he was here.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Smooth dork, Like his interviews were smooth Mendoza's was like.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
It's true team god glue stare into the camera like, dude,
have you never done this before? Well, I'm sure he has, because,
like I said, I've seen two of them just as
of recently. They're both just really not good.
Speaker 9 (35:03):
He's not good at nice And yes, you can end
up leading guys, you just have to be able to perform.
You're not going to be the one that they're asking
to go kick it afterwards, which is fine, stay in
your playbook.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
I think there was a reason that he wanted his
like linebacker buddy to like speak because that guy was great. Yeah,
the one that stepped in and led the song at
the end of the National Championship. Well, I don't think
the Heisman voters are going to hold his interview.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Skills against them likely, So.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
I do think he's going to win, But I don't
know if I would encourage people to bet money on it,
because I think there is a chance, and a pretty
sound one, that Diego Pavia ends up stealing this thing
from him. I mean, nine hundred and fifty voters for
this thing. But I'll just tell you, leading up to Heisman,
maybe people are just bored with the Fernando Mendoza, you know,
(35:56):
favorite to win the Heisman conversation. But the guys that
I've been hearing interviewed and have interviewed, like Rick new Isil,
they seem to be leaning toward thinking Pavia should be
the Heisman Trophy winner.
Speaker 14 (36:10):
I like that there's some you know, it's not just
a runaway, because otherwise it just feels also like why
even bother inviting the other guys just to sit there
when there's when they have no chance.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Sometimes I feel like that's what happens, and it seems silly.
This year, I don't feel like that's the case exactly.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
I think there is a chance.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
When's the last time we got surprised by a Heisman
Trophy winner announcement?
Speaker 4 (36:30):
I don't even remember.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
I don't either. I mean, maybe I'm just prisoner of
the moment, but I don't even remember the last time
I was surprised by a Heisman trophy announcement.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
So maybe this would maybe we're gonna get one on Saturday.
I wouldn't rule it out.
Speaker 9 (36:45):
I wouldn't rule it out either, And I mean, for
what it's worth, a lot of times of the dual
threat quarterback is like ends up getting the NOD and
that diego Pavia. Like the last game, if it's if
they were if it was heads up, and you're like, oh,
well he went and won the Big Ten in Ohio State.
That's impressive. Pavia through for two sixty eight and ran
for one sixty five in his last game against Tennessee
(37:07):
not a bad team.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Well, Mendoza won the Big Ten title over the number
one ranked team in the country and made the Heisman throw,
So he left a pretty good last impression too.
Speaker 9 (37:16):
I'm just saying I think that there's more of a
conversation than typical. Typically at this point, a lot of
times you just have kind of a clear cut winner,
and I almost know for certain that everybody went that direction.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Yeah, I think there's a chance at an upset. And
I'll say another factor in there being a chance of
an upset, people do get bored if there's been a
long time favorite, right, they do like, yeah, because they
want to be the first person that says something other
than Fernando Mendoz as my Heisman pick. And so again,
(37:50):
nine hundred and fifty voters, how many of them potentially
might vote for Pavia just because Mendoza has been the
favorite for so long and they wanted to do something
differently at the midnight hour. There's a chance he could
snag this thing away. I don't think there's any chance,
Julian saying wins and nor should he fifth best player
(38:11):
on his team for goodness sake. But and I don't
think Jeremiah Loves got a chance either. They'll show up,
they'll go through the pomp and circumstance, have their families
interviewed and all that stuff. But I do believe Diego
Pavi has got a reason to be there. He just
might snag this thing away from Fernando Mendoza. That would
be shocking. It would be shocking, even though even though
(38:33):
I'm preparing people for it, it still would be shocking
to see that happen at the last second.
Speaker 9 (38:37):
I mean, I think that there's maybe not an argument.
I think he probably will win, and it probably is
the right choice, just taking Indiana to where they're at
right now, the number one team in the nation. And
it's not it's not in spite of him, Like if
Julian saying, if you were if they were still the
number one team, you would be like and it's because
of Julian saying, I mean it's because of him and
leading the team and doing what he's done. And yet
(38:58):
I mean, there's gonna be some people that it will
vote for the love Kid because he pretty amazing. Now,
typically running backs just don't get it anymore, but we
did just come off a year where a dual threat
guy want it, and so I don't know a dual threat.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah, I think a couple people will vote for him,
but I don't think he's going to come anywhere close.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
I don't think he will either. That's just the nature
of the award nowadays. So I'm with you. I think
that he's gonna win, but I wouldn't be surprised if
it went another direction.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
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