December 15, 2025 • 42 mins
We are back with MMQB and COACH MIKE HOLMGREN is in-studio with Hugh and the guys. How did Coach feel when his team didn’t score a TD, but they won anyway? Would Mike have been tempted to deviate with the game-plan if he was in a game similar to yesterday’s? What did Coach think of Phillip Rivers’ performance in his return to the NFL? Mike MacDonald is earning a lot of praise for the use of his timeouts late in the game- what do Coach and Hugh think about it? :30- MMQB continues with Coach and Hugh. The Seahawks have the Rams in town on Thursday, can the Hawks figure out how to avoid the slow starts offensively? :45- We close out the show with one last thing for Coach, including some thoughts on Sam Darnold.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:49):
Here's Chuck and Buck.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Coach got ambushed before I could get into the studio here.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Today he's famous. Yeah, he's a big deal out there.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
No, they're having a meeting and uh, you know, I've
been in too many meetings in my life, and I
tried to get out of there, but someone grabbed me
he said, we need you in the meeting.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I said, no, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I got to work to do.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
And then Ron Wolf ever do that to you when
your workday was done, He just scheduled a meeting to
keep you sticking around for like an hour more at
the end of the night.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
You know you'd prepared. No, you know what a meeting
with everybody?
Speaker 5 (01:21):
No, you know what it was. We were there so
late anyway. No, No, he never did that. Bless his heart.
He knew we worked hard enough.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Mike Homerin is here.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Hugh Millen is here. Monday Morning Quarterback continues as we
react to the seahawks eighteen sixteen win over the Indianapolis
Colts yesterday for their eleventh win of the year. How
did you feel when you didn't score a touchdown that
day but you won the game?
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Well, I felt good, But then I knew we had
some work to do, you know. Yeah, it was a
different game.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
It was.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
I want to first of all, applaud Indianapolis and how
they did that because there had just advantage because of
the quarterback situation, and they had some injuries on defense
to particularly a corner, and they had come up with
a strategy. I think this is how we're going to
have to win the game by doing this.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
And I harkened back to it.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
We played Dallas one year and we were injured, they
were good, and I in my mind, I said, this
is our only chance. This is how we're going to
have to play this game, and we're going to win
in the end with a field goal. I said that
in my mind, And the game was going exactly like
that until we fumbled the kickoff return. Oh, and that
(02:41):
that was it game over. We can't overcome that. And
I think Indianapolis kind of played the game that way well.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
There was no turnovers yesterday both teams until the very
end of the last play, essentially last play of the game.
Every drive started as a result of a kickoff or
a in that Mike, had you been in that situation,
you know, Rivers hits the tight end over the middle
Warren that was probably his best ball and the back shoulders.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
So that was late in the game.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
But had you been, do you think you might have.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
Been tempted like, Okay, you know, maybe we can flexus
out a little bit more, push the ball down the
field a little bit more, or would you just say nope,
I'm going to go sixty minutes, and I'm just keeping
everything like in this little cocoon. Our passing game is
in a cocoon. We're not going to try it as
if the way teams play when it's thirty five mile
(03:36):
an hour win Like we can't throw the ball deep
down the field. Let's just you know, dink and dunk short.
What have you been tempted to deviate from that plan
or do you think you had just kept with it?
Had you been the Colt coach yesterday, I.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Would have absolutely deviated from the plan. I think, knowing
how I used to do things, I'm not saying that.
I'm not saying that's right. I'm just saying I thought
they had a good strategy. Actually, but I'm watching the game,
and here, what to your point, I'm going, yeah, call it,
throw it, throw it, yeah, throw it, throw another one,
you know, and you know they didn't do that. And
(04:13):
the couple throws and a couple of the kids made
the players made great catches, and but they didn't. They
didn't do that. And I'm looking at Philip because I
you know, we talked about it last week. I know
him a little bit and how he played and how
he thinks a little bit. Uh, and I'm watching it,
I'm going I'm not sure I'm correct on this, but
(04:35):
my my own feeling was, yeah, he's for Yeah, this
is this is who I think he is. But I
would say this too. Not many people could do what
he did. No, I wouldn't think so No, So you know, gosh,
give him credit for that. And he threw the touchdown
pass and.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
A'm a chance to win?
Speaker 5 (04:54):
They absolutely absolutely, unlet's the see Ox do that miraculous
thing at the end like they they they look like
they can do.
Speaker 7 (05:01):
EBB done. They went, m Yeah, Well, I mean, coach,
when it comes to the way in which they came
out with their game plan, I mean, just to the
Phillis Phyllis, I call him Phillips Rivers when he was
a San Diego Charger, but Philip Rivers when it comes
to the way in which they weren't going to push
the ball down the field a whole heck of a lot, right,
I mean, he just hasn't had much time to work
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out the timing with those guys, and so it was
kind of dinking and duncan were you surprised that it
took him a while to kind of then suck up
on that and then challenge them to go over the
top or was that something you would have expected as
just all right, that's fine. If they do that, we're
gonna tackle them and eventually we'll force them to punt
and if they get field goals, we'll end up winning
that game plan in the long run.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
You're talking about the Seahawks.
Speaker 7 (05:45):
Yeah, Seahawks, And they didn't really adjust it. It seemed like
it took him a while to kind of come up
and take those short ones away.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
It didn't until they did that they they had a
they were I thought they were going to lose the game.
You know, I'm looking at Indianapoli did a good job
of shortening the game in the first half. You know,
they had they had drives of you know, eight nine plays,
ten plays. The Seahawks did not. Indianapolis had the ball.
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And so if you're gonna play the whole game like that,
we got to force them. We got to get them
off the field in three downs, four downs, so we
have some chances on offense. And I think they did
that in the second The two halves were different that way,
and so yeah, they made the adjustment at halftime, and
I think they came after a little bit more buck
but look at they've rushed four guys all season long,
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but then the secondary squeeze them just a little bit.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
But that was the act of a game.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
And I you know, it's a great win for the Hawks,
and it'll come down to Thursday night now, you know,
like we thought it would.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, But I just wanted to give.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Indianapolis some credit to because that was a tough, tough
gonna be a tough game, and they they played, they
did what they could do.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Mike Homer and Hugh Mellan with us Monday morning quarterback session,
and we didn't bring this up with Hughes, so I
want Hugh to weigh in on this topic as well.
But obviously the timeout usage by Mike McDonald at the
end of the game ended up being game saving for
this team. But I would argue if that would have
happened five years ago, maybe even three years ago, people
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would have thought he was completely out of his mind
by the way these kickers can kick and the way
they've changed the kickoff rules. Him preserving those timeouts, even
though it felt odd for people that are been watching
football for a long time, ended up being the saving grace.
What did you think is that was unfolding the both
(07:38):
of you. I'll start with you, coach, what did you
What were you thinking as that was unfolding? Is he
just kept killing the clock and calling time out so
he could save Sam time just in case they kicked
a field goal.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Yeah, I thought I was questioning it, to be honest
with you, how that happened, because if you're going to
get the wrong ball back in the year behind, you
want to have some time.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I'm outs.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
It was kind of remarkable to me that they got
the ball back with forty two seconds no timeouts. Yeah,
and they had a ways to go, not very far
because kickers now place kickers can kick at seventy yards,
but they you know, it worked for him, but it
almost didn't.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
So the fact that and we can do this a
lot in football, and we've done it, the three of
us have done it. The four of us have done
a fair amount. It worked, So it worked. If it
doesn't it doesn't work, they do that. Well, didn't do that, right,
So but it really worked for him.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Well as far as me, I mean, I got text
with my friends. I don't understand what all the fuss
is about. To me, it seemed like that was the
obvious thing to do, because they get the third and
seven and they get the sixteen yard game to the
Seattle forty nine. So so now the Colts they run
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the ball, you know, at a minute and twelve, so
the prior play had been one fifty five. Now you're
down to one twelve. To me, it's like they're gonna
They're gonna kill forty seconds and then you know, and
then forty like a courl like, well, of course you're
gonna use the timeouts because the alternative is is then
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because you went a minute and twelve, if they if
they run off thirty you know, call it forty seconds.
So you're at seventy two seconds. Now you take you know,
close to forty Off of that, you're at you know,
thirty four seconds. And then I mean they can they
can run it right down and and kick the field
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goal with two seconds to go. So I thought it
was kind of self obvious. I I you know, maybe
I'm I'm just being chuck influenced by the last five
years and and the distance these kickers can kick. So
maybe that's true, But I don't really see the argument
for doing it any other way.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Well, the argument is, I mean, they could have done
that anyway. You could have burned your timeouts, they could
have gotten the first down, and then they could have
still taken it down to two seconds. And I'm I
loved it. But the argument is that if you you're
really kind of counting that that guy can't make a
sixty yard field goal, okay, then when he does make
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it and he's like the thirteenth cult kicker this year,
this isn't like. This isn't like Brandon Aubrey or Jason Myers.
This is like the you know, I don't even know
where they found this four foot three inch kicker, but
they found one.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Well yeah, anything also weigh one hundred and thirty pounds.
Yeah yeah, they found one. But if you if he
misses it, then you get the ball. Then they can
stop you with their three timeouts, right, I think ballack.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
I'm sorry, Chris no, yeah, yeah no. But Mike, I
think there's something. This is why I like calling the timeout.
I think something happens to both teams when you do that.
I think you tell your defense. Mike McDonald's telling your
defense like it's now it's this series because they called
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the time out after Taylor went up the middle for
no game. All right, So maybe maybe the result of
the play influence. So now you got second and ten,
you're telling your defense you got to get this stop
on this series, no more first downs, And I think
that heightens their intensity. And then I think the other team, Mike,
and you'd be able to you're the play caller when
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when they call the time out, is it not easy
to be influenced, like, okay, time is possession or you know,
the time is really critical and and you're more likely
to run yourself. Maybe you wouldn't be influenced that way,
but it just seems like if I watch a bunch
of football games, it kind of the other coach reply
responds by going, yeah, you're right, you know, it's time
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to really work the clock and then and then they're
more likely to run the ball as opposed to maybe
do a play action pass.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Yeah, I think that's absolutely you're absolutely right. The other
factor is Philip Rivers is playing. You know, if it's
if it's someone else, if it's the Seahawks, flip it.
If it's the Seahawks on offense, they're not gonna run
it in that situation they're gonna pass the ball or
play action pass or do something like that. They were
pretty sure they were gonna run it, and so then
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it made all the sense in the world.
Speaker 7 (12:30):
Actually, you're right, is there was there times when they
were getting stopped on third down. I'm speakinning of the
Seahawks offense, and you're like, well, that's kind of getting
you're putting yourself in that position. We kind of touched
on it a little bit, but to me, there's we're
not just starting the season. This is we're ways in
this thing. We're got just the final stretch drive. And
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yet it's abundantly clear they're gonna run the ball more
than anybody else does. And yet there's then that's sometimes
you find yourself yesterday they couldn't run the ball very well,
weren't getting anything, and so you're in the third and
sevens and third and eights, and those aren't the third
and manageables that you want. Is there at this point
do you think that Klint Kubiak needs to just step
away from that to some degree and say that's let
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Darnald sling the thing around a little bit, or is
this the recipe that's going to work. I mean, they're
eleven and three, so it's hard to argue with the
way it's working so far.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
That's the thing that they have to That's the thing
that's interesting to me because look at the last three game.
Let's go back last three games. They played teams without
their quarterback. You know they okay, so that's and they've won,
so good for them. Then they they're in a position
now to win the whole thing. But this they're going
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to have to, I think against the Rams or against
the forty nine ers, they're going to have to run
the ball better. And if you can't. And you guys
have teased me about this before. The writers teach me
about it. When I went in my my thing and said, okay,
on a Monday morning after a game, I said, that's
the last time you're going to see me call runs.
(14:01):
We're going to pass the whole game because I was
angry about what had what had happened. Very immature on
my part, but you know, to your point, Buck, yeah,
you know it wasn't working. If it's not working, first
of all, analyze why it isn't working. Do I think
it can work by doing something else, or do I
(14:23):
have to change. And yesterday I thought they waited a
little too long to change and open it up a
little bit because the run game wasn't there yesterday.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
There, Yeah, there was a huddle Clint could be called
a huddle for the offense.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Do you think that was born out of sloppiness and effectiveness?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Was at a wake up call?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
What do you think went into that? All those things?
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Anytime I had and I had to do that on occasion,
I didn't leave it up to the coordinator. Well, the
coordinator was upstairs, but I was I could go over
there and chat with them and kind of let them know.
I was a little disappointed what was going on. And
we got to ramp it up, you know. And and
but one time I went over there to the offensive
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line to just to talk to the offensive line because
we were we were not doing well. And Tom Labat,
who was my offensive line coach, a great guy and
a mentor to me. We used to take polaroid pictures
of what was happening, you know, not they don't have iPad.
We didn't have iPads polaroids, So we're doing draw Let
me see the pictures. He goes, No, I said, give
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me the I said, give me, Please give me the pictures,
I said, and so then I kind of ripped the
offensive line. But you have to do that every once. Well,
if you feel they need a little jolt.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Mike, I'd like to talk about the red zone. In
the beginning of the eight o'clock hour, I had cited
a stat for for those who didn't hear it over
the last five weeks. Uh, the red zon own fringe.
When you get into the opponent's forty yard line, you know,
just outside the red zone. This when the Seahawks do that,
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they kick a field goal sixty nine point seven. We
call it seventy percent of the time. That's not only
is that number one in the NFL. The gap between
number one and two is greater than the gap between
two and twenty four. The Seahawks are thirty first in
touchdown percentage, but they're just kicking an exorbitant number of
field goals and checking Buck real quick. I'm gonna make
Mike blush, but I think this is a really interesting
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story to me. So Mike's baby used to be the
red zone, and late in my career, I'm not going
to give into details. I sat in a meeting four
feet from Steve Young. Marty morning met Wegg was running
the meeting and he was running just red zone plays
that Mike homegrin head run at Packers. So this is
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Steve Young looking at Packer offense with Brett Favre and
all of Mike's play and Young just sat there every
other play and he goes, well, that's that's an unbelievable play,
but I can't do that, and was play after play,
Young would just say, I can't do that. And what
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Mike had done is he took a guy with unbelievable
velocity in FARV, but he taught him the anticipation of
Dan Fouts. I'm not a big Fouts fan, He's an
Oregon guy, but Fouts arguably has the best anticipation of
all time. Because he didn't have a strong army, he
had to have anticipation. But Mike took Far's velocity and
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taught him fouts anticipation. And this red zone tape was
just freaking freaky how incredible it was. And that's why
FARV was three straight MVPs. You know, you know, led
the NFL and touchdowns year after year. He's so freaking
good in the red zone and So having preface that, Mike,
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there's a red zone problem here, but I want you
to talk not just about the red zone, but the
red zone fringe, Like, what's your mindset you get inside,
not necessarily just the twenty, but you know the thirty,
the twenty five, the thirty five, that area where Seattle's
bogging down getting yes field goals but not enough touchdowns.
What's your thought about what they should be doing to
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be better in that regard?
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Well, excuse me, I think that you know, throwing the
ball in the red zone if you're down, Let's talk
about not the fringe. Let's talk about the twenty. First,
if you're in there, you you know you have a
field goal. And now quite honestly, now even if you're
in the fringe, it seems like they have a field goal.
You got three points in your pocket. If you got
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a good kicker, you got three points in your pocket.
So you can afford to take some chances if you
look at it like chances and winging around just a
little bit. Having said that, the red zone for me
was the fun thing I got to.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
That was my baby.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
So I would kind of, you know, say, okay, Chuck,
I want you to run this route because I'm gonna
throw it to the Bucky and he's he gonna score,
and you're gonna help him score because this is what's
gonna happen to teach you like that, and the player
look at me. You look at me and go what
about me?
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Yeah? How am I gonna get mine? I said, Okay,
next time a free agent this year, the next time
we're over here, Bucky's gonna do this. You're gonna get
the ball on this And if the quarterback is really sure,
I think about the design of the play, why you're
being why you're calling it, why it's good against the
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defense that you think you're gonna see. Then he's more effective.
And so I just think, I know they got a
great field goal kicker. I would like to see them
be a little more ambitious down there, I guess is
the best way it's say it.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (19:56):
Yeah, There's not a lot that the offense made you
feel real good about it, just overarching you come out
of that game. It's a win, and you've won eight
out of nine. At this point, you're feeling better about
the team you watched. Going into the biggest game of
the season a little bit worse about them the same
or where's your thought on it?
Speaker 5 (20:14):
I think you have to have some in trepidation. Excuse
me that you know it's okay. This part of our
season's over.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Now. We have three games.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Left to reach our goals, allow us to reach our goals,
but against two teams maybe three, that are good football
teams that have their quarterback playing and all that kind
of stuff. So we're entering into a different season, and
so our approach and how we look at this. You
got to jack those guys up and say, this game
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is going to be different. We haven't seen this team
for a while, we haven't seen a team like this
for a while. So now we got to crank it
up another option. You've got to give me some more stuff.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Mike Homeran Hugh Mellan Monday Morning Quarterback, A lot more
to discuss us, a lot more on that Rams game
to discuss.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
That's right, We're going to start discussing it today. We've
already started sports.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
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Speaker 8 (21:09):
We just got to start faster. As an offense. We've
got to finish in the red zone. It's I feel
like it's becoming a theme now these next few weeks
and we got to get it figured out. You know,
I feel like our defense is playing really, really good football,
but we got to step it up a little bit
as an offense, you know, and that starts with me.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
We gotta play better.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Sam Darnold after yesterday's eighteen to sixteen win, a game
in which the staffs won the game but did not
score a touchdown, and yeah, these slow starts. This is
now going on weeks of this stuff, and with the
Rams coming up, you're not going to be able to
afford to do that heading into Thursday's game. Mike Holmer
and Hugh Millen with us Monday Morning Quarterback rolls on.
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We were talking about it, the slow starts during the
break coach, and this goes all the way back to
Russell Wilson. So it's John Schneider's fault, isn't it. They're
getting off to these slow offensive starts. That's the only
thing I can conclude. It's the common denominator. Well, I
think you know John very well. And if I went
in his office today, I tell him that, John, what
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are you doing?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Did you call that player? What do you think it is?
What's wrong?
Speaker 5 (22:12):
You know what I think they want to establish the run.
That's the first thing. And when if it's working, it works.
It's just like, see what's working. No one has a
crystal ball about that stuff.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
You think.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
You look at the defense, you say, are going to
start with this. I had my first fifteen plays, and
you thought through that a lot to take some of
the emotion out of in the excitement out of the
play calling, because you could settle in and if it worked,
it should work because we worked hard on it, and
it worked most of the time, to be honest, so
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you get off to a start, but then you got
to call the game the rest of the way. But
if it's not working, you have to be real honest
about it and just say we're going to go and
have a plan B. And so if you're starting the
game slowly, you know, and and that's okay against the opponent,
you think, I don't know, we don't have to score
this much or against this these guys. But you know,
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that's a mindset and I never thought much like that.
It's and everyone everyone's different. So Mike McDonald's defense, you
got a great defense. No one's going to score too
much on them. They haven't, Uh, so maybe they can
afford to be a little more conservative that way early
in the game.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
Mike, when you talk about pivoting away from what the
plan was, I don't think it's just well, we thought
we wanted to run the ball, but we can't, so
let's pass the ball more.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Isn't there some more nuance to that that, For example,
you wanted to run outside the stretch and and you're not,
you're not getting the yards from the stretch, Then you know,
maybe you run up power. You know what's called gap scheme,
chucking buck where you're pulling the backside guard. That's a
different thematic. You know, I think maybe inside zone might
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have been the better course. But but you're looking at
that run sheet and you're saying, Okay, I don't really
like these runs, but maybe these runs, let's let's take
a crack at those. Maybe maybe talk about that part
of the process.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Yeah, that's exactly what you have to do, you you know,
And I saw yesterday there was one play I remember
where they're pulling Bradford from right to left and the
defender just came in and chopped him down in a
big pile up and minus yards and I'm going I'm
not sure that's I probably might want to go the
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other way, you know, wave and have not Bradford pull,
but the other guard.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Some things like that, you know, and so yeah, it's
it's but here. The other thing I would say is
play action pass, get underneath the center, have a couple
backs in there, use a full back and run out
of that. But also play action pass out of it.
To make the defense think about having to defend more things,
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not just we're gonna tee you off. This is what
they do and I thought I saw that yesterday. I
thought Indianapolis did that. They anticipated and and we're right
many a lot of the time. So mix it up,
different formations, different different throwing spots for the quarterback, get
them thinking a little bit on defense, and then do
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your thing.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Coach d you got a rematch coming up Division rival,
a lot of them on the on the table coming
up Thursday against the Rams. This is one where I
think you can give some great into you being the
offensive mastermind that you were. It's similar to like what
McVeigh is in today's game, going against a guy in
Mike McDonald.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
It's a defensive guru.
Speaker 7 (25:52):
Uh in your in your opinion, Where did that advantage
go when you know the team you're going against it
as well as you know anybody cause their division fo
it is the rematch that that year, and so you
have some stuff tape man on man type stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
To go with.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
Did you always did you feel that that was advantage
offensive mind? Or did you feel that that was advantage
defensive mind?
Speaker 5 (26:13):
I thought it was always to our advantage as long
as we could take away or at least balance their strength.
I go back to when I was with the forty
nine ers and we played the New York Giants, great
football team, big rivalry at that time. Well, they had
Lawrence Taylor on the outside, they have you know, Banks
on the outside. But what bothered Joe Montana was pressure
(26:37):
right up the middle and the ram and the Giants
knew that, and it wasn't the guys on the outside
as great as they were. And so the game plan
there was to make sure try and make sure they
didn't get as much pressure up front.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
The other thing is going against different secondary people. Okay,
you're going against Dion Sanders or whom ever. You know,
you don't stop throwing like the Packers did against the
Seahawks one year. You're not going to throw to that
side because you know Richard Sherman's over there. You don't
want to do that, but you do want to take
advantage and move the people around. Move your people around.
(27:15):
So understand where where the problems are, the big problems.
There might be more than more than a couple. But
then deal with that play you know, the coach to
that and have an answer for that.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
Bucky, Mike won't do this, but your Broncos. The apex
of Montana's career was that fifty five to ten super Bowl.
That's the highest he ever reached. That Bronco defense was
number one in the NFL fewest points allowed, number one
in the NFL fewest first downs, number one, fewest touchdown
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passes allowed. And that's how Montana carved it up. With
Mike Hall in the place, so you know, you know,
but you know, because it's the Broncos, we just had
to make him mention that.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
I don't know if.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
You know what was that final score?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Again here maybe mentioned.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
That, but that's to your point.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
But that's what happened in that game.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
Honestly, the safeties for Denver at Water and I forget
who the other one was.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Darren Smith.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
Yeah, they were good, really good, and they used them.
They used them to squeeze and come up. They were
very you know, they ran a two deep defense and
he was talked about that many times. But they also
for safeties in that defense. Typically they're not in the
box that they don't come up that fast. Their job
is something else, except in Denver. And so we thought, Okay,
(28:38):
we do this, they'll come up. They've done it all
season and been great at it. What is our answer
for that? And we came up with a couple of
things and it happened to work, and they let their
foot off the gas. Could have been a lot more.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Uh well, I do need.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
To mention this though. I mean, we have one more
segment to go, but I don't know if we'll get
to it. I mean, you and I probably would never
like dine with a kicker. We probably wouldn't even call
them by their.
Speaker 9 (29:07):
First name, you know, right right just but our kicker
is absolutely on fire right now, and so I think
I should bring him up.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
So we can say a nice thing about Jason Myers
right now.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
I'm glad you brought it up. Yeah, I'm really glad
because one of us has to talk about it. Yeah,
I'll talk about you know, to have a kicker that
you can depend on and have that much confidence in
that you if you get into that area where I
need to gain five more yards or whatever with him,
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it's amazing. But it also points to what's happened with
the kicking balls and the kickoff return and you don't
have to gain a lot of offensive yards to get
into a position to attempt a field goal and be
realistic about making it. Unbelievable when that kid kicked the
sixty and and Jason all six of his and I
(30:04):
think most of them were passed. Most of them were
over forty five yards long. They used to be a
long field goal. Oh that used to be yeah, real questionable. Yeah,
now with a good kicker like him, Hey, it's nothing.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Hey, Mike, during just to kind of humble him a
little bit during stretching or something, would you say, hey, Myers,
you know you still kick two kickoffs into the end
zone where and they got a touch back to the
thirty five. How about you, you know, tighten up your
game a little bit. Would you maybe uh buses balls
in a fun way that way because because you know,
(30:37):
if there was a flaw to it, you know, he
he's better than that and can't have that against the Rams.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
To be honest, my strategy with the you know, I've
told you what I used to tell him. One thing
I tell him, you know, have a good one. Kick
it between the uprights. Try and kick it between the
up right.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
And stay away from my daughters. I want my daughter
married kicker.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
All right, Well, close close out with one last thing.
Next Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Think I
just came up with the solution by the way to
the kicking at the end of games.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Bucky, we're talking during the break.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Bucky's like, well, they get to take care of their
kicking ball, so yeah, so carefully, so meticulously.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Yeah, they polished their balls. What if the other.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Team took care of their balls, then they had to
use the one the other.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Team took care of. That's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Oh yeah, the other team stuff. Yeah, I could see
him stuffed up.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
You get it and look at it and there might
be a lump. Your great idea.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
It didn't even look like a foot. That's what you
had to kick the game winner with? Who gave me
this watermelon.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah, they'd be like, this is a beach ball. It's
not even a football's idea.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
It's our Monday morning quarterback session. We got Hugh here,
we got Coach here, we got one more segment. So
one more thing for coach. What do you got Bucky?
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Coming up? Big game? Obviously?
Speaker 7 (32:01):
Is this a game that the week leading up to
you tell because I mean, I just don't think you
can be conservative against one of the more potent offenses
in the Rams, and who knows how healthy they're going
to be. But is this one where all week you
tell your quarterback, hey, we're letting it rip, because I
think there is times, there's certain games during a certain
season against certain opponents where you have to throw caution
(32:23):
out the window a little bit. You make smart choices.
You don't want four interceptions, obviously, But is this one
where you're leading into this game your quarterback you're like,
this is going to be your best game of the season.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
One of those Yeah, you kind of talk to the quarterback.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
I don't think you talked to the whole team that
way necessarily, but you are going to get your quarterback
ready for maybe a different style, a different way we're
going to approach this now. Having said that, you know,
the Rams the first game, I forget, the score was
low scoring, wasn't it the.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
First game twenty one nineteen.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Yeah, it was kind of low scoring, and both teams
played good defense. And the Rams have a good defense
and good pressure up front. So it's not that much different,
I don't think than how you prepare for every game, Buck,
but it's a little different, and you talk to the
quarterback that way. He has to know who he's going against,
and the Rams present more problems than the last few
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teams they've played, certainly here.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
What do you got, Well, I just have a thought
about Sam Donald, Mike, and we're gonna hear, you know,
certainly the national people on the telecast, they're going to
talk about Sam Donald and how he had a great
year last year, but at the end of the season
against the Lions and then in the playoff game against
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the Rams, he didn't play so well, and they're going
to ignore that. You know, during this season, as the
Vikings won fourteen games, you know, he had two wins
against Green Bay, you know, second to last game of
the season, for example, three hundred and seventy seven yards,
seventy seven percent complete, one hundred and sixteen passer rating
the game again at Seattle, the other game against Green Bay,
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and what have you. And in that playoff game against
the Rams. There have been thirty eight quarterbacks this decade
who have started a playoff game and lost, and the
average pressures on the quarterback is fifteen. Mahomes in the
Super Bowl last year when he was awful against the
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pressure from the Eagles, he had seventeen in that Super
Bowl last year, Donald against the Rams, far and away
of all those quarterbacks, thirty eight twenty seven pressures he
was under from that Ramedy. That was an entire ram
onslaught against against Sam Donald and Mike. Here's a list
of quarterbacks who have a worse passer rating on average
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when they lose the game. Does this sound like an
impressive list of quarterback this decade? Pat Mahomes, Tom Brady,
Justin Herbert, Jordan Love, Jayden Daniels, Dak Prescott, Drew Brees.
All of those guys performed worse in their losses at
least by that measurement than Sam Donald. I think Donald's
getting a bad rap on this. Usually, if you lose
a playoff game, your quarterback probably played poorly, or that
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people around him cause the quarterback to play poorly. So
I think he's getting a bad rap.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Mike.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
I don't know what your response is on that, but
I think there's some numbers to crystallize it.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
Yeah, I would say this, and I've said it from
day one that I'm I'm in his corner. I think
he's played well. Uh you know everyone will talk about
that for interception game, but you know he has played
well and Sam Donald if they should not make it,
Sam Donald will not be the reason why. It'll be
some something else. And you talked about pressures, and that's
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that says it all to me. You know there who's
got to Everyone has to play up their game. Every
facet of the football team has to up their game.
It will not be his fault. He'll he'll get him there,
and if he doesn't get him there, we can look elsewhere.
It's not going to be him.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Yeah, I agree with that one hundred percent. I'll tell
you one thing that won't get in his path, the
Kansas City Chiefs. So my one last thing is Patrick
Mahomes injured season over. What do you think about the
Kansas City Chiefs is the dynasty over coach.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
They're going to have to retool, some retooling absolutely next year.
I mean they're talking about Kelsey this being his last year.
Pat now Mahomes won't be able to play this year
and he came. It's a pretty serious injury. So when
he'll come back, we'll wait and see. I hope he
comes back as soon as possible. But Andy has some
work to do. And you know, you saw it this
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year and really the year before when they won the
Super Bowl. I think he won eleven one score games,
so it was really close. And they've had a run
of ten years of winning the division and which is
remarkable and so but it happens. It happens to everybody,
and then all of a sudden, if you lose your
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quarterback or if you lose and key players, you have
to retool. And I think they have to be really
serious about doing that this offseason.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
Do you think Andy would consider just saying, Okay, I'm
gonna I'm gonna turn it over to Nagel or whomever
a younger buck and and and not out or would
would that like hurt his pride?
Speaker 3 (37:27):
That wait?
Speaker 6 (37:28):
You know, the one year Patrick tears his knee up,
then I'm gonna bail on the team. Like where where
do you think his mindset is? He's certainly at an
age where nobody would think twice if he if he
called it, you know, if you retired on a great career.
But where do you think he what do you think
he's thinking?
Speaker 5 (37:44):
You know, I I asked him that when he came
on the radio show with me once, and he's loving
he loves football. Football is such a big part of
his life. And uh, he says his health is good,
and uh, I don't see it, Hugh. I think he's
going to stick with it. And if he were about out,
(38:06):
I'd be very surprised because he's looking at I think
I believe knowing him, he's looking at this as the
challenge of Okay, where we slumped a little bit here,
Now I got to get back going again. And he
said he wants to. He just signed a new deal
for a pretty big contract, and uh, that won't be
(38:28):
the absolute driving force. But he's got the quarterback he's
patrick come back after his injury. I don't see him
going No, I don't see him stepping away.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
I think Mahomes is just at the halfway point.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
I think that was just the end of the first
half of Patrick Mahomes' career yesterday, and I think he's
got ten more years, and who knows what they could
do on that side. I'll just ask you in our
last minute here, Josh Allen done that? Can't city in
his way this year? I mean, he's got to get
it done this year, doesn't he? Yeah, I went to the
Super Bowl this year.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
Well, I you know, I picked Buffalo in the beginning,
and then all of a sudden they played a little
stretch there of games. I'm going, gee, there's a reason
I don't gamble. There is a reason I don't gamble.
And then but now, all of a sudden, he's their
fun to watch. He's fun to watch, boy, is he?
He's very talented guy.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
You think you this year?
Speaker 6 (39:21):
I certainly hope so if it's not gonna be Seattle, obviously,
but but the Bills would be my second choice. I
think Buffalo Beffalo, and the city has never had a parade.
They've like the Braves, the Sabers, the Bills. Now, they
won an AFL title, but that was in an era
when the NFL was clearly the superior, so they've never
(39:43):
had a major championship parade. I think their fans deserve it.
But Josh Allen, He's in my top three favorite quarterbacks
I've ever seen in my life. I love I love
his style, I love his competitiveness, I love his humility,
his leadership. I just love everything about him. I mean,
he's quarterback porn for me. Sorry, Mike, but Chuck knows
(40:06):
I I go there from time to time. But I
can't take my eyes off that dude. I just love
his game and and you know, but but I think
Mike Sean McDermott, I don't know I used to be
I have, I have really waned in my assessment of him.
I mean, even like, how do you not how do
you not challenge that play like like like you know,
(40:27):
Raybo's boom, he's challenging, you know, and and and McDermott's
just is like like the little things and the defense
just never seems to support him, you know. The receiver
corps is just vastly you know, incomplete. I think that
that that on some level Josh Allen could almost suit
(40:47):
for malpractice, that some of the things that's happening around him.
Speaker 5 (40:52):
What do you think of Sean McDermott. Well, you know
what I like Sean McDermott. I'm not I'm not gonna
comment on that. When I'm gonna comment on is having
a parade in Buffalo in February.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Okay, they would do it.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
We won the Super Bowl in Green Bay and we
had the parade and I lost one of my players
on the bus from hypothermia. We had to put jackets
on him and true and because it was an open
air bus, and everyone thought that was a good idea,
and they didn't bring us our jackets at the airport
(41:26):
when we got off. So we were supposed to do
one last thing at the city Center. I told the
bus driver drive the stadium. We were supposed to, don't
drive to the stadium. And we reared off and went
to the stadium.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Oh well, it's.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Hard, gentlemen. Thank you very much. Great stuff.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
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Speaker 3 (00:49):
Here's Chuck and Buck.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Coach got ambushed before I could get into the studio here.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Today he's famous. Yeah, he's a big deal out there.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
No, they're having a meeting and uh, you know, I've
been in too many meetings in my life, and I
tried to get out of there, but someone grabbed me
he said, we need you in the meeting.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I said, no, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I got to work to do.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
And then Ron Wolf ever do that to you when
your workday was done, He just scheduled a meeting to
keep you sticking around for like an hour more at
the end of the night.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
You know you'd prepared. No, you know what a meeting
with everybody?
Speaker 5 (01:21):
No, you know what it was. We were there so
late anyway. No, No, he never did that. Bless his heart.
He knew we worked hard enough.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Mike Homerin is here.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Hugh Millen is here. Monday Morning Quarterback continues as we
react to the seahawks eighteen sixteen win over the Indianapolis
Colts yesterday for their eleventh win of the year. How
did you feel when you didn't score a touchdown that
day but you won the game?
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Well, I felt good, But then I knew we had
some work to do, you know. Yeah, it was a
different game.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
It was.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
I want to first of all, applaud Indianapolis and how
they did that because there had just advantage because of
the quarterback situation, and they had some injuries on defense
to particularly a corner, and they had come up with
a strategy. I think this is how we're going to
have to win the game by doing this.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
And I harkened back to it.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
We played Dallas one year and we were injured, they
were good, and I in my mind, I said, this
is our only chance. This is how we're going to
have to play this game, and we're going to win
in the end with a field goal. I said that
in my mind, And the game was going exactly like
that until we fumbled the kickoff return. Oh, and that
(02:41):
that was it game over. We can't overcome that. And
I think Indianapolis kind of played the game that way well.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
There was no turnovers yesterday both teams until the very
end of the last play, essentially last play of the game.
Every drive started as a result of a kickoff or
a in that Mike, had you been in that situation,
you know, Rivers hits the tight end over the middle
Warren that was probably his best ball and the back shoulders.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
So that was late in the game.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
But had you been, do you think you might have.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
Been tempted like, Okay, you know, maybe we can flexus
out a little bit more, push the ball down the
field a little bit more, or would you just say nope,
I'm going to go sixty minutes, and I'm just keeping
everything like in this little cocoon. Our passing game is
in a cocoon. We're not going to try it as
if the way teams play when it's thirty five mile
(03:36):
an hour win Like we can't throw the ball deep
down the field. Let's just you know, dink and dunk short.
What have you been tempted to deviate from that plan
or do you think you had just kept with it?
Had you been the Colt coach yesterday, I.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Would have absolutely deviated from the plan. I think, knowing
how I used to do things, I'm not saying that.
I'm not saying that's right. I'm just saying I thought
they had a good strategy. Actually, but I'm watching the game,
and here, what to your point, I'm going, yeah, call it,
throw it, throw it, yeah, throw it, throw another one,
you know, and you know they didn't do that. And
(04:13):
the couple throws and a couple of the kids made
the players made great catches, and but they didn't. They
didn't do that. And I'm looking at Philip because I
you know, we talked about it last week. I know
him a little bit and how he played and how
he thinks a little bit. Uh, and I'm watching it,
I'm going I'm not sure I'm correct on this, but
(04:35):
my my own feeling was, yeah, he's for Yeah, this
is this is who I think he is. But I
would say this too. Not many people could do what
he did. No, I wouldn't think so No, So you know, gosh,
give him credit for that. And he threw the touchdown
pass and.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
A'm a chance to win?
Speaker 5 (04:54):
They absolutely absolutely, unlet's the see Ox do that miraculous
thing at the end like they they they look like
they can do.
Speaker 7 (05:01):
EBB done. They went, m Yeah, Well, I mean, coach,
when it comes to the way in which they came
out with their game plan, I mean, just to the
Phillis Phyllis, I call him Phillips Rivers when he was
a San Diego Charger, but Philip Rivers when it comes
to the way in which they weren't going to push
the ball down the field a whole heck of a lot, right,
I mean, he just hasn't had much time to work
(05:23):
out the timing with those guys, and so it was
kind of dinking and duncan were you surprised that it
took him a while to kind of then suck up
on that and then challenge them to go over the
top or was that something you would have expected as
just all right, that's fine. If they do that, we're
gonna tackle them and eventually we'll force them to punt
and if they get field goals, we'll end up winning
that game plan in the long run.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
You're talking about the Seahawks.
Speaker 7 (05:45):
Yeah, Seahawks, And they didn't really adjust it. It seemed like
it took him a while to kind of come up
and take those short ones away.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
It didn't until they did that they they had a
they were I thought they were going to lose the game.
You know, I'm looking at Indianapoli did a good job
of shortening the game in the first half. You know,
they had they had drives of you know, eight nine plays,
ten plays. The Seahawks did not. Indianapolis had the ball.
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And so if you're gonna play the whole game like that,
we got to force them. We got to get them
off the field in three downs, four downs, so we
have some chances on offense. And I think they did
that in the second The two halves were different that way,
and so yeah, they made the adjustment at halftime, and
I think they came after a little bit more buck
but look at they've rushed four guys all season long,
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but then the secondary squeeze them just a little bit.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
But that was the act of a game.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
And I you know, it's a great win for the Hawks,
and it'll come down to Thursday night now, you know,
like we thought it would.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, But I just wanted to give.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Indianapolis some credit to because that was a tough, tough
gonna be a tough game, and they they played, they
did what they could do.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Mike Homer and Hugh Mellan with us Monday morning quarterback session,
and we didn't bring this up with Hughes, so I
want Hugh to weigh in on this topic as well.
But obviously the timeout usage by Mike McDonald at the
end of the game ended up being game saving for
this team. But I would argue if that would have
happened five years ago, maybe even three years ago, people
(07:17):
would have thought he was completely out of his mind
by the way these kickers can kick and the way
they've changed the kickoff rules. Him preserving those timeouts, even
though it felt odd for people that are been watching
football for a long time, ended up being the saving grace.
What did you think is that was unfolding the both
(07:38):
of you. I'll start with you, coach, what did you
What were you thinking as that was unfolding? Is he
just kept killing the clock and calling time out so
he could save Sam time just in case they kicked
a field goal.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Yeah, I thought I was questioning it, to be honest
with you, how that happened, because if you're going to
get the wrong ball back in the year behind, you
want to have some time.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I'm outs.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
It was kind of remarkable to me that they got
the ball back with forty two seconds no timeouts. Yeah,
and they had a ways to go, not very far
because kickers now place kickers can kick at seventy yards,
but they you know, it worked for him, but it
almost didn't.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
So the fact that and we can do this a
lot in football, and we've done it, the three of
us have done it. The four of us have done
a fair amount. It worked, So it worked. If it
doesn't it doesn't work, they do that. Well, didn't do that, right,
So but it really worked for him.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Well as far as me, I mean, I got text
with my friends. I don't understand what all the fuss
is about. To me, it seemed like that was the
obvious thing to do, because they get the third and
seven and they get the sixteen yard game to the
Seattle forty nine. So so now the Colts they run
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the ball, you know, at a minute and twelve, so
the prior play had been one fifty five. Now you're
down to one twelve. To me, it's like they're gonna
They're gonna kill forty seconds and then you know, and
then forty like a courl like, well, of course you're
gonna use the timeouts because the alternative is is then
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because you went a minute and twelve, if they if
they run off thirty you know, call it forty seconds.
So you're at seventy two seconds. Now you take you know,
close to forty Off of that, you're at you know,
thirty four seconds. And then I mean they can they
can run it right down and and kick the field
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goal with two seconds to go. So I thought it
was kind of self obvious. I I you know, maybe
I'm I'm just being chuck influenced by the last five
years and and the distance these kickers can kick. So
maybe that's true, But I don't really see the argument
for doing it any other way.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Well, the argument is, I mean, they could have done
that anyway. You could have burned your timeouts, they could
have gotten the first down, and then they could have
still taken it down to two seconds. And I'm I
loved it. But the argument is that if you you're
really kind of counting that that guy can't make a
sixty yard field goal, okay, then when he does make
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it and he's like the thirteenth cult kicker this year,
this isn't like. This isn't like Brandon Aubrey or Jason Myers.
This is like the you know, I don't even know
where they found this four foot three inch kicker, but
they found one.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Well yeah, anything also weigh one hundred and thirty pounds.
Yeah yeah, they found one. But if you if he
misses it, then you get the ball. Then they can
stop you with their three timeouts, right, I think ballack.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
I'm sorry, Chris no, yeah, yeah no. But Mike, I
think there's something. This is why I like calling the timeout.
I think something happens to both teams when you do that.
I think you tell your defense. Mike McDonald's telling your
defense like it's now it's this series because they called
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the time out after Taylor went up the middle for
no game. All right, So maybe maybe the result of
the play influence. So now you got second and ten,
you're telling your defense you got to get this stop
on this series, no more first downs, And I think
that heightens their intensity. And then I think the other team, Mike,
and you'd be able to you're the play caller when
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when they call the time out, is it not easy
to be influenced, like, okay, time is possession or you know,
the time is really critical and and you're more likely
to run yourself. Maybe you wouldn't be influenced that way,
but it just seems like if I watch a bunch
of football games, it kind of the other coach reply
responds by going, yeah, you're right, you know, it's time
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to really work the clock and then and then they're
more likely to run the ball as opposed to maybe
do a play action pass.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Yeah, I think that's absolutely you're absolutely right. The other
factor is Philip Rivers is playing. You know, if it's
if it's someone else, if it's the Seahawks, flip it.
If it's the Seahawks on offense, they're not gonna run
it in that situation they're gonna pass the ball or
play action pass or do something like that. They were
pretty sure they were gonna run it, and so then
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it made all the sense in the world.
Speaker 7 (12:30):
Actually, you're right, is there was there times when they
were getting stopped on third down. I'm speakinning of the
Seahawks offense, and you're like, well, that's kind of getting
you're putting yourself in that position. We kind of touched
on it a little bit, but to me, there's we're
not just starting the season. This is we're ways in
this thing. We're got just the final stretch drive. And
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yet it's abundantly clear they're gonna run the ball more
than anybody else does. And yet there's then that's sometimes
you find yourself yesterday they couldn't run the ball very well,
weren't getting anything, and so you're in the third and
sevens and third and eights, and those aren't the third
and manageables that you want. Is there at this point
do you think that Klint Kubiak needs to just step
away from that to some degree and say that's let
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Darnald sling the thing around a little bit, or is
this the recipe that's going to work. I mean, they're
eleven and three, so it's hard to argue with the
way it's working so far.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
That's the thing that they have to That's the thing
that's interesting to me because look at the last three game.
Let's go back last three games. They played teams without
their quarterback. You know they okay, so that's and they've won,
so good for them. Then they they're in a position
now to win the whole thing. But this they're going
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to have to, I think against the Rams or against
the forty nine ers, they're going to have to run
the ball better. And if you can't. And you guys
have teased me about this before. The writers teach me
about it. When I went in my my thing and said, okay,
on a Monday morning after a game, I said, that's
the last time you're going to see me call runs.
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We're going to pass the whole game because I was
angry about what had what had happened. Very immature on
my part, but you know, to your point, Buck, yeah,
you know it wasn't working. If it's not working, first
of all, analyze why it isn't working. Do I think
it can work by doing something else, or do I
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have to change. And yesterday I thought they waited a
little too long to change and open it up a
little bit because the run game wasn't there yesterday.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
There, Yeah, there was a huddle Clint could be called
a huddle for the offense.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Do you think that was born out of sloppiness and effectiveness?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Was at a wake up call?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
What do you think went into that? All those things?
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Anytime I had and I had to do that on occasion,
I didn't leave it up to the coordinator. Well, the
coordinator was upstairs, but I was I could go over
there and chat with them and kind of let them know.
I was a little disappointed what was going on. And
we got to ramp it up, you know. And and
but one time I went over there to the offensive
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line to just to talk to the offensive line because
we were we were not doing well. And Tom Labat,
who was my offensive line coach, a great guy and
a mentor to me. We used to take polaroid pictures
of what was happening, you know, not they don't have iPad.
We didn't have iPads polaroids, So we're doing draw Let
me see the pictures. He goes, No, I said, give
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me the I said, give me, Please give me the pictures,
I said, and so then I kind of ripped the
offensive line. But you have to do that every once. Well,
if you feel they need a little jolt.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Mike, I'd like to talk about the red zone. In
the beginning of the eight o'clock hour, I had cited
a stat for for those who didn't hear it over
the last five weeks. Uh, the red zon own fringe.
When you get into the opponent's forty yard line, you know,
just outside the red zone. This when the Seahawks do that,
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they kick a field goal sixty nine point seven. We
call it seventy percent of the time. That's not only
is that number one in the NFL. The gap between
number one and two is greater than the gap between
two and twenty four. The Seahawks are thirty first in
touchdown percentage, but they're just kicking an exorbitant number of
field goals and checking Buck real quick. I'm gonna make
Mike blush, but I think this is a really interesting
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story to me. So Mike's baby used to be the
red zone, and late in my career, I'm not going
to give into details. I sat in a meeting four
feet from Steve Young. Marty morning met Wegg was running
the meeting and he was running just red zone plays
that Mike homegrin head run at Packers. So this is
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Steve Young looking at Packer offense with Brett Favre and
all of Mike's play and Young just sat there every
other play and he goes, well, that's that's an unbelievable play,
but I can't do that, and was play after play,
Young would just say, I can't do that. And what
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Mike had done is he took a guy with unbelievable
velocity in FARV, but he taught him the anticipation of
Dan Fouts. I'm not a big Fouts fan, He's an
Oregon guy, but Fouts arguably has the best anticipation of
all time. Because he didn't have a strong army, he
had to have anticipation. But Mike took Far's velocity and
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taught him fouts anticipation. And this red zone tape was
just freaking freaky how incredible it was. And that's why
FARV was three straight MVPs. You know, you know, led
the NFL and touchdowns year after year. He's so freaking
good in the red zone and So having preface that, Mike,
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there's a red zone problem here, but I want you
to talk not just about the red zone, but the
red zone fringe, Like, what's your mindset you get inside,
not necessarily just the twenty, but you know the thirty,
the twenty five, the thirty five, that area where Seattle's
bogging down getting yes field goals but not enough touchdowns.
What's your thought about what they should be doing to
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be better in that regard?
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Well, excuse me, I think that you know, throwing the
ball in the red zone if you're down, Let's talk
about not the fringe. Let's talk about the twenty. First,
if you're in there, you you know you have a
field goal. And now quite honestly, now even if you're
in the fringe, it seems like they have a field goal.
You got three points in your pocket. If you got
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a good kicker, you got three points in your pocket.
So you can afford to take some chances if you
look at it like chances and winging around just a
little bit. Having said that, the red zone for me
was the fun thing I got to.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
That was my baby.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
So I would kind of, you know, say, okay, Chuck,
I want you to run this route because I'm gonna
throw it to the Bucky and he's he gonna score,
and you're gonna help him score because this is what's
gonna happen to teach you like that, and the player
look at me. You look at me and go what
about me?
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Yeah? How am I gonna get mine? I said, Okay,
next time a free agent this year, the next time
we're over here, Bucky's gonna do this. You're gonna get
the ball on this And if the quarterback is really sure,
I think about the design of the play, why you're
being why you're calling it, why it's good against the
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defense that you think you're gonna see. Then he's more effective.
And so I just think, I know they got a
great field goal kicker. I would like to see them
be a little more ambitious down there, I guess is
the best way it's say it.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (19:56):
Yeah, There's not a lot that the offense made you
feel real good about it, just overarching you come out
of that game. It's a win, and you've won eight
out of nine. At this point, you're feeling better about
the team you watched. Going into the biggest game of
the season a little bit worse about them the same
or where's your thought on it?
Speaker 5 (20:14):
I think you have to have some in trepidation. Excuse
me that you know it's okay. This part of our
season's over.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Now. We have three games.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Left to reach our goals, allow us to reach our goals,
but against two teams maybe three, that are good football
teams that have their quarterback playing and all that kind
of stuff. So we're entering into a different season, and
so our approach and how we look at this. You
got to jack those guys up and say, this game
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is going to be different. We haven't seen this team
for a while, we haven't seen a team like this
for a while. So now we got to crank it
up another option. You've got to give me some more stuff.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Mike Homeran Hugh Mellan Monday Morning Quarterback, A lot more
to discuss us, a lot more on that Rams game
to discuss.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
That's right, We're going to start discussing it today. We've
already started sports.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
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Speaker 8 (21:09):
We just got to start faster. As an offense. We've
got to finish in the red zone. It's I feel
like it's becoming a theme now these next few weeks
and we got to get it figured out. You know,
I feel like our defense is playing really, really good football,
but we got to step it up a little bit
as an offense, you know, and that starts with me.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
We gotta play better.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Sam Darnold after yesterday's eighteen to sixteen win, a game
in which the staffs won the game but did not
score a touchdown, and yeah, these slow starts. This is
now going on weeks of this stuff, and with the
Rams coming up, you're not going to be able to
afford to do that heading into Thursday's game. Mike Holmer
and Hugh Millen with us Monday Morning Quarterback rolls on.
(21:45):
We were talking about it, the slow starts during the
break coach, and this goes all the way back to
Russell Wilson. So it's John Schneider's fault, isn't it. They're
getting off to these slow offensive starts. That's the only
thing I can conclude. It's the common denominator. Well, I
think you know John very well. And if I went
in his office today, I tell him that, John, what
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are you doing?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Did you call that player? What do you think it is?
What's wrong?
Speaker 5 (22:12):
You know what I think they want to establish the run.
That's the first thing. And when if it's working, it works.
It's just like, see what's working. No one has a
crystal ball about that stuff.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
You think.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
You look at the defense, you say, are going to
start with this. I had my first fifteen plays, and
you thought through that a lot to take some of
the emotion out of in the excitement out of the
play calling, because you could settle in and if it worked,
it should work because we worked hard on it, and
it worked most of the time, to be honest, so
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you get off to a start, but then you got
to call the game the rest of the way. But
if it's not working, you have to be real honest
about it and just say we're going to go and
have a plan B. And so if you're starting the
game slowly, you know, and and that's okay against the opponent,
you think, I don't know, we don't have to score
this much or against this these guys. But you know,
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that's a mindset and I never thought much like that.
It's and everyone everyone's different. So Mike McDonald's defense, you
got a great defense. No one's going to score too
much on them. They haven't, Uh, so maybe they can
afford to be a little more conservative that way early
in the game.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
Mike, when you talk about pivoting away from what the
plan was, I don't think it's just well, we thought
we wanted to run the ball, but we can't, so
let's pass the ball more.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Isn't there some more nuance to that that, For example,
you wanted to run outside the stretch and and you're not,
you're not getting the yards from the stretch, Then you know,
maybe you run up power. You know what's called gap scheme,
chucking buck where you're pulling the backside guard. That's a
different thematic. You know, I think maybe inside zone might
(24:04):
have been the better course. But but you're looking at
that run sheet and you're saying, Okay, I don't really
like these runs, but maybe these runs, let's let's take
a crack at those. Maybe maybe talk about that part
of the process.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Yeah, that's exactly what you have to do, you you know,
And I saw yesterday there was one play I remember
where they're pulling Bradford from right to left and the
defender just came in and chopped him down in a
big pile up and minus yards and I'm going I'm
not sure that's I probably might want to go the
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other way, you know, wave and have not Bradford pull,
but the other guard.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Some things like that, you know, and so yeah, it's
it's but here. The other thing I would say is
play action pass, get underneath the center, have a couple
backs in there, use a full back and run out
of that. But also play action pass out of it.
To make the defense think about having to defend more things,
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not just we're gonna tee you off. This is what
they do and I thought I saw that yesterday. I
thought Indianapolis did that. They anticipated and and we're right
many a lot of the time. So mix it up,
different formations, different different throwing spots for the quarterback, get
them thinking a little bit on defense, and then do
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your thing.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Coach d you got a rematch coming up Division rival,
a lot of them on the on the table coming
up Thursday against the Rams. This is one where I
think you can give some great into you being the
offensive mastermind that you were. It's similar to like what
McVeigh is in today's game, going against a guy in
Mike McDonald.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
It's a defensive guru.
Speaker 7 (25:52):
Uh in your in your opinion, Where did that advantage
go when you know the team you're going against it
as well as you know anybody cause their division fo
it is the rematch that that year, and so you
have some stuff tape man on man type stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
To go with.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
Did you always did you feel that that was advantage
offensive mind? Or did you feel that that was advantage
defensive mind?
Speaker 5 (26:13):
I thought it was always to our advantage as long
as we could take away or at least balance their strength.
I go back to when I was with the forty
nine ers and we played the New York Giants, great
football team, big rivalry at that time. Well, they had
Lawrence Taylor on the outside, they have you know, Banks
on the outside. But what bothered Joe Montana was pressure
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right up the middle and the ram and the Giants
knew that, and it wasn't the guys on the outside
as great as they were. And so the game plan
there was to make sure try and make sure they
didn't get as much pressure up front.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
The other thing is going against different secondary people. Okay,
you're going against Dion Sanders or whom ever. You know,
you don't stop throwing like the Packers did against the
Seahawks one year. You're not going to throw to that
side because you know Richard Sherman's over there. You don't
want to do that, but you do want to take
advantage and move the people around. Move your people around.
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So understand where where the problems are, the big problems.
There might be more than more than a couple. But
then deal with that play you know, the coach to
that and have an answer for that.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
Bucky, Mike won't do this, but your Broncos. The apex
of Montana's career was that fifty five to ten super Bowl.
That's the highest he ever reached. That Bronco defense was
number one in the NFL fewest points allowed, number one
in the NFL fewest first downs, number one, fewest touchdown
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passes allowed. And that's how Montana carved it up. With
Mike Hall in the place, so you know, you know,
but you know, because it's the Broncos, we just had
to make him mention that.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
I don't know if.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
You know what was that final score?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Again here maybe mentioned.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
That, but that's to your point.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
But that's what happened in that game.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
Honestly, the safeties for Denver at Water and I forget
who the other one was.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Darren Smith.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
Yeah, they were good, really good, and they used them.
They used them to squeeze and come up. They were
very you know, they ran a two deep defense and
he was talked about that many times. But they also
for safeties in that defense. Typically they're not in the
box that they don't come up that fast. Their job
is something else, except in Denver. And so we thought, Okay,
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we do this, they'll come up. They've done it all
season and been great at it. What is our answer
for that? And we came up with a couple of
things and it happened to work, and they let their
foot off the gas. Could have been a lot more.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Uh well, I do need.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
To mention this though. I mean, we have one more
segment to go, but I don't know if we'll get
to it. I mean, you and I probably would never
like dine with a kicker. We probably wouldn't even call
them by their.
Speaker 9 (29:07):
First name, you know, right right just but our kicker
is absolutely on fire right now, and so I think
I should bring him up.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
So we can say a nice thing about Jason Myers
right now.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
I'm glad you brought it up. Yeah, I'm really glad
because one of us has to talk about it. Yeah,
I'll talk about you know, to have a kicker that
you can depend on and have that much confidence in
that you if you get into that area where I
need to gain five more yards or whatever with him,
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it's amazing. But it also points to what's happened with
the kicking balls and the kickoff return and you don't
have to gain a lot of offensive yards to get
into a position to attempt a field goal and be
realistic about making it. Unbelievable when that kid kicked the
sixty and and Jason all six of his and I
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think most of them were passed. Most of them were
over forty five yards long. They used to be a
long field goal. Oh that used to be yeah, real questionable. Yeah,
now with a good kicker like him, Hey, it's nothing.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Hey, Mike, during just to kind of humble him a
little bit during stretching or something, would you say, hey, Myers,
you know you still kick two kickoffs into the end
zone where and they got a touch back to the
thirty five. How about you, you know, tighten up your
game a little bit. Would you maybe uh buses balls
in a fun way that way because because you know,
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if there was a flaw to it, you know, he
he's better than that and can't have that against the Rams.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
To be honest, my strategy with the you know, I've
told you what I used to tell him. One thing
I tell him, you know, have a good one. Kick
it between the uprights. Try and kick it between the
up right.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
And stay away from my daughters. I want my daughter
married kicker.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
All right, Well, close close out with one last thing.
Next Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Think I
just came up with the solution by the way to
the kicking at the end of games.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Bucky, we're talking during the break.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Bucky's like, well, they get to take care of their
kicking ball, so yeah, so carefully, so meticulously.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Yeah, they polished their balls. What if the other.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Team took care of their balls, then they had to
use the one the other.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Team took care of. That's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Oh yeah, the other team stuff. Yeah, I could see
him stuffed up.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
You get it and look at it and there might
be a lump. Your great idea.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
It didn't even look like a foot. That's what you
had to kick the game winner with? Who gave me
this watermelon.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah, they'd be like, this is a beach ball. It's
not even a football's idea.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
It's our Monday morning quarterback session. We got Hugh here,
we got Coach here, we got one more segment. So
one more thing for coach. What do you got Bucky?
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Coming up? Big game? Obviously?
Speaker 7 (32:01):
Is this a game that the week leading up to
you tell because I mean, I just don't think you
can be conservative against one of the more potent offenses
in the Rams, and who knows how healthy they're going
to be. But is this one where all week you
tell your quarterback, hey, we're letting it rip, because I
think there is times, there's certain games during a certain
season against certain opponents where you have to throw caution
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out the window a little bit. You make smart choices.
You don't want four interceptions, obviously, But is this one
where you're leading into this game your quarterback you're like,
this is going to be your best game of the season.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
One of those Yeah, you kind of talk to the quarterback.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
I don't think you talked to the whole team that
way necessarily, but you are going to get your quarterback
ready for maybe a different style, a different way we're
going to approach this now. Having said that, you know,
the Rams the first game, I forget, the score was
low scoring, wasn't it the.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
First game twenty one nineteen.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Yeah, it was kind of low scoring, and both teams
played good defense. And the Rams have a good defense
and good pressure up front. So it's not that much different,
I don't think than how you prepare for every game, Buck,
but it's a little different, and you talk to the
quarterback that way. He has to know who he's going against,
and the Rams present more problems than the last few
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teams they've played, certainly here.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
What do you got, Well, I just have a thought
about Sam Donald, Mike, and we're gonna hear, you know,
certainly the national people on the telecast, they're going to
talk about Sam Donald and how he had a great
year last year, but at the end of the season
against the Lions and then in the playoff game against
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the Rams, he didn't play so well, and they're going
to ignore that. You know, during this season, as the
Vikings won fourteen games, you know, he had two wins
against Green Bay, you know, second to last game of
the season, for example, three hundred and seventy seven yards,
seventy seven percent complete, one hundred and sixteen passer rating
the game again at Seattle, the other game against Green Bay,
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and what have you. And in that playoff game against
the Rams. There have been thirty eight quarterbacks this decade
who have started a playoff game and lost, and the
average pressures on the quarterback is fifteen. Mahomes in the
Super Bowl last year when he was awful against the
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pressure from the Eagles, he had seventeen in that Super
Bowl last year, Donald against the Rams, far and away
of all those quarterbacks, thirty eight twenty seven pressures he
was under from that Ramedy. That was an entire ram
onslaught against against Sam Donald and Mike. Here's a list
of quarterbacks who have a worse passer rating on average
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when they lose the game. Does this sound like an
impressive list of quarterback this decade? Pat Mahomes, Tom Brady,
Justin Herbert, Jordan Love, Jayden Daniels, Dak Prescott, Drew Brees.
All of those guys performed worse in their losses at
least by that measurement than Sam Donald. I think Donald's
getting a bad rap on this. Usually, if you lose
a playoff game, your quarterback probably played poorly, or that
(35:12):
people around him cause the quarterback to play poorly. So
I think he's getting a bad rap.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Mike.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
I don't know what your response is on that, but
I think there's some numbers to crystallize it.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
Yeah, I would say this, and I've said it from
day one that I'm I'm in his corner. I think
he's played well. Uh you know everyone will talk about
that for interception game, but you know he has played
well and Sam Donald if they should not make it,
Sam Donald will not be the reason why. It'll be
some something else. And you talked about pressures, and that's
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that says it all to me. You know there who's
got to Everyone has to play up their game. Every
facet of the football team has to up their game.
It will not be his fault. He'll he'll get him there,
and if he doesn't get him there, we can look elsewhere.
It's not going to be him.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Yeah, I agree with that one hundred percent. I'll tell
you one thing that won't get in his path, the
Kansas City Chiefs. So my one last thing is Patrick
Mahomes injured season over. What do you think about the
Kansas City Chiefs is the dynasty over coach.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
They're going to have to retool, some retooling absolutely next year.
I mean they're talking about Kelsey this being his last year.
Pat now Mahomes won't be able to play this year
and he came. It's a pretty serious injury. So when
he'll come back, we'll wait and see. I hope he
comes back as soon as possible. But Andy has some
work to do. And you know, you saw it this
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year and really the year before when they won the
Super Bowl. I think he won eleven one score games,
so it was really close. And they've had a run
of ten years of winning the division and which is
remarkable and so but it happens. It happens to everybody,
and then all of a sudden, if you lose your
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quarterback or if you lose and key players, you have
to retool. And I think they have to be really
serious about doing that this offseason.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
Do you think Andy would consider just saying, Okay, I'm
gonna I'm gonna turn it over to Nagel or whomever
a younger buck and and and not out or would
would that like hurt his pride?
Speaker 3 (37:27):
That wait?
Speaker 6 (37:28):
You know, the one year Patrick tears his knee up,
then I'm gonna bail on the team. Like where where
do you think his mindset is? He's certainly at an
age where nobody would think twice if he if he
called it, you know, if you retired on a great career.
But where do you think he what do you think
he's thinking?
Speaker 5 (37:44):
You know, I I asked him that when he came
on the radio show with me once, and he's loving
he loves football. Football is such a big part of
his life. And uh, he says his health is good,
and uh, I don't see it, Hugh. I think he's
going to stick with it. And if he were about out,
(38:06):
I'd be very surprised because he's looking at I think
I believe knowing him, he's looking at this as the
challenge of Okay, where we slumped a little bit here,
Now I got to get back going again. And he
said he wants to. He just signed a new deal
for a pretty big contract, and uh, that won't be
(38:28):
the absolute driving force. But he's got the quarterback he's
patrick come back after his injury. I don't see him
going No, I don't see him stepping away.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
I think Mahomes is just at the halfway point.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
I think that was just the end of the first
half of Patrick Mahomes' career yesterday, and I think he's
got ten more years, and who knows what they could
do on that side. I'll just ask you in our
last minute here, Josh Allen done that? Can't city in
his way this year? I mean, he's got to get
it done this year, doesn't he? Yeah, I went to the
Super Bowl this year.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
Well, I you know, I picked Buffalo in the beginning,
and then all of a sudden they played a little
stretch there of games. I'm going, gee, there's a reason
I don't gamble. There is a reason I don't gamble.
And then but now, all of a sudden, he's their
fun to watch. He's fun to watch, boy, is he?
He's very talented guy.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
You think you this year?
Speaker 6 (39:21):
I certainly hope so if it's not gonna be Seattle, obviously,
but but the Bills would be my second choice. I
think Buffalo Beffalo, and the city has never had a parade.
They've like the Braves, the Sabers, the Bills. Now, they
won an AFL title, but that was in an era
when the NFL was clearly the superior, so they've never
(39:43):
had a major championship parade. I think their fans deserve it.
But Josh Allen, He's in my top three favorite quarterbacks
I've ever seen in my life. I love I love
his style, I love his competitiveness, I love his humility,
his leadership. I just love everything about him. I mean,
he's quarterback porn for me. Sorry, Mike, but Chuck knows
(40:06):
I I go there from time to time. But I
can't take my eyes off that dude. I just love
his game and and you know, but but I think
Mike Sean McDermott, I don't know I used to be
I have, I have really waned in my assessment of him.
I mean, even like, how do you not how do
you not challenge that play like like like you know,
(40:27):
Raybo's boom, he's challenging, you know, and and and McDermott's
just is like like the little things and the defense
just never seems to support him, you know. The receiver
corps is just vastly you know, incomplete. I think that
that that on some level Josh Allen could almost suit
(40:47):
for malpractice, that some of the things that's happening around him.
Speaker 5 (40:52):
What do you think of Sean McDermott. Well, you know
what I like Sean McDermott. I'm not I'm not gonna
comment on that. When I'm gonna comment on is having
a parade in Buffalo in February.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Okay, they would do it.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
We won the Super Bowl in Green Bay and we
had the parade and I lost one of my players
on the bus from hypothermia. We had to put jackets
on him and true and because it was an open
air bus, and everyone thought that was a good idea,
and they didn't bring us our jackets at the airport
(41:26):
when we got off. So we were supposed to do
one last thing at the city Center. I told the
bus driver drive the stadium. We were supposed to, don't
drive to the stadium. And we reared off and went
to the stadium.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Oh well, it's.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Hard, gentlemen. Thank you very much. Great stuff.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
As always, Monday Morning Quarterback Session comes to a close
thanks to Mike Holgern and Hugh Millan. We'll do it
again next Monday. Coming up next, Mark James and Christopher
Kidd on Sports Radio ninety three point three khr FM.
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