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December 16, 2025 36 mins
We have a BIG game on Thursday and with the short week, it’s time to focus on the Seahawks and Rams on Thursday Night Football. There is so much riding on this game as the 11-3 Seahawks host the 11-3 Rams for the division lead and a playoff spot. Now, as these two teams prepare to face off, the Rams could be without Davante Adams and the Seahawks have some injury questions as well. It’s not just the injuries though, this Seahawks team must avoid another slow start and figure out a way to get their redzone productivity. :30- What’s going on with the Michigan head coaching job? Jedd Fisch, Kalen DeBoer and Kenny Dillingham have all been mentioned a lot. DeBoer has made it very clear he has no interest in the job, while Dillingham has also pledged his allegiance to ASU (kind of) in a tear-filled speech. Fisch has stood by the comment that he will be at Washington next year, but do we believe all of these guys? Not until Michigan makes the hire and it’s not one of them. Is Michigan waiting for something? :45- The Seahawks run game plan isn’t working and the offense seems to be struggling as a whole because of it. When should the Seahawks change things up in-game?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's gonna sound rick. Good morning, folks.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Good morning everyone, Good morning, it's some time. Good morning, hush,
pleads and gentlemen, ladies and gentleman.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Introducing six one guard from Brighton, Illinois and former high
school basketball stand What in the hell does that mean?

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Jumped any conclusions? No, not a god, You've got to
lower lower your expectations.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Hard to believe you could once send a fastball to Pluto.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
I'm getting some Bucky jacobs and vibes and former I'll
just openly admit I'm a fat, out of shaped ex athlete.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Now there's been a noticeable spike in your blood pressure.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Five seven guard and a former college water polo national
chimpion and a lot.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Of useless crap up here.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Wow, this is Chuck and Buck in the Morning with
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Speaker 2 (01:14):
Hey, good morning to you. Welcome into the Tuesday radio
program that is Chucking Back in the Morning Sports Radio
ninety three point three KJRFM. Ashley Ryan is here, Former
Mariner Bucky Jacobson is here. My name is Chuck Powell.
And man the new coffee maker. So I mentioned yesterday
number one's got me amped up. I've been already did
a show with Bucky before we even came on the airways.

(01:37):
So sorry about That's all right, I know usually there's
some quiet, but I can't help it. I'm all juiced up.
I'm all jacked up. And then secondarily, I had one
more thing to think about this morning, as I had
to throw the grounds away and the new coffee maker,
and that caused me to forget my past. So Bucky
had to save me downstairs. It just happens there. It's

(01:57):
like clockwork.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah. Yeah, you can have what is it, three things?
Four things you can remember?

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah? Yeah, four things I can remember.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
If there's five, yeah, something's got to get pushed out
of here.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Just put your pass like in your bag when you
get home. Uh why would I? Okay, it's a perfectly
good system. I have it right there at the front.
It's right there, right there. Everything in the drawer is
right there, in the exact same place. Okay, yeah, otherwise
I'll forget the bag.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Oh yeah, well that would be two for one.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah exactly, yeah exactly. I mean I half I started
halfway to work, and I'm like, I forgot my car.
Oh then I just started walking. Yeah, and I had
to go all the way back.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
So if you if I had ignore my idea, then
that was dumb.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
I had one more thing. It just throws me off.
Every single week. I was trying to take a thing
away from you. No, no, I just forget something else.
It's a it's a mostly perfect system.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, time the time.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
That's right there, you go, all right, well, well come
to the show. It is a Tuesday. We've got our
normal Tuesday lineup coming up, which we'll outline for you
here in a little bit with what's on tap, and
of course in every single crack that there is, we
will talk about the big topic of the week, and
that is the Seahawks and the Rams Thursday Night Football

(03:20):
this year. As I mentioned frequently, we typically on Hump
Day start previewing the next opponent, but on a short week,
Thursday Night Football week, we always start on Tuesday. Well,
guess what we're already underway. We got started yesterday with
this game, this game of the year, Seahawks hosting the

(03:40):
Rams Thursday Night Football got the entire national platform to
ourselves only game going and it is the biggest game
certainly of the year so far. Doesn't mean it will
end up being the biggest game of the year because
there are a couple of others on the schedule before
the regular season comes to a close. But undoubted this

(04:00):
is the biggie, and so we dive in full full,
with full hearts and full breaths, We're gonna dive into
this sucker here today.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
There's not a lot that else we probably can talk about.
I mean, simply, there's so much hanging in the balance.
I mean, the end of the game Thursday night, you're
either going to be first place in the division and
first place overall in the NFC, or you're not. And
I mean it's crazy to be sitting at eleven and
three and still have a chance, I mean, in a
very outside slim chance of not making the playoffs. But

(04:32):
I mean the fact that you haven't clinched at this
point in time and you got three games left to go.
One is a big one at home this Thursday against
your the team that you're chasing down because they beat
you in your first head to head. Yeah, a lot
riding on this one, I mean, without a doubt, a
lot riding on this one.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, and just fantastic matchup two healthy teams. You pointed
this out yesterday, but the Rams right now are considered
the favorites to win the Super Bowl by Vegas and
number two on that list the Seattle Seahawks. I think
the Seahawks certainly more surprising from that perspective when you
think back to the beginning of the year, and nobody

(05:09):
thought that this. Nobody nationally thought the Seahawks team was
going to be a playoff team. We're gonna get like
six wins. Yeah, yeah, at least very few. I wouldn't
say nobody, because that's not true, but very few people.
Vegas certainly had them less than what a lot of
us thought they were capable of. And here they are

(05:30):
putting themselves in a position to possibly end up with
a number one seed. But as beautiful as this game
and sports can be at times, they also could be
left on the outside looking in. There's still a chance
this team doesn't even make the playoffs at all. They've
not clinched. They can on Thursday, they can at least
clinch a playoff spot. But to sit here with three

(05:51):
games left in the season and at eleven and three
and you're still not guaranteed a spot in the playoffs.
That's unnerving.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, that's the part that's kind of crazy, I mean,
And yet I mean there's a top heavy version of
it where I mean, I don't think anybody here would
would rather be, you know, ten and four or nine
and five and have a spot clinched up already, like
being a weak division necessarily, but because this gives you
the opportunity to get that coveted first round by if

(06:21):
you can figure out a way to be the number
one team. So you're you like where you're sitting. It's
just that your division is tough with the you know,
the Niners and Rams being in there, both playing well
pretty much for the entire season, so you're still fighting
for something on the small scale. But really it kind
of feels like the overall winner of this division is
going to be the number one seed going into the playoffs.

(06:43):
And that's a big that's a big deal in today's
day and game, where there's so much riding on how
healthy are you. You don't want you want to get
hot at the right time, that whole thing, but but
you also need to stay healthy and having a week
off when it's not two teams anymore, it's just the
one team in each conference gets that buy. That's a
big deal to get rested up and prepare for whoever
it is you got coming in and then home field

(07:05):
advantage to do the whole thing. It's a big deal. So,
I mean, this is one where I would I think
that everybody over there in Renton stays up late and
does a lot of their homework. But I bet you
either doing a little bit extra this week.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Let's get it on the Rams, certainly on fire themselves.
But they might be without Davonte Adams for this game.
Sean McVeigh said as recently as yesterday, it's really it's
kind of hard to believe that he will be ready
after injuring his hamstring at the end of the game.
Yet on Sunday that DeVante Adams could be ready for this,

(07:38):
So that will be something in the Seahawks corner that
gives them a little bit of an advantage. Adams and
Nakua make quite the team, but let's face it. I mean,
this is something that came up yesterday in our conversation
with coach and Hugh. This team's settling for an awful
lot of field goals, and even though Jason Myers has

(07:59):
turned into the most reliable kicker in the National Football League,
and that's a great thing to have in your corner
as well. Truth of the matter is, and maybe not
to the degree Greg Olsen talks about it, but you
can't make a living in this league, you can't win
Super Bowls in this league constantly settling for field goals.
So that's an issue lately has been confronting this team,

(08:20):
and maybe even bigger than that. I mean, you got
away with it against the Vikings, you got away with
it against the Falcons. They really I don't think have
played well since this is strange to say, lost to
the Rams. Played a bit of a sloppy game against
the Titans, certainly did not play four quarters against Minnesota,
Certainly did not play four quarters against Atlanta. And then

(08:41):
the Colts felt to me like something was missing there
as well, which maybe we'll talk about a little bit
later on in this hour. But you better play four
quarters against the Rams. This is not a playground in
which you can just decide to join the game whenever
you feel like it. Better be firing on all cylinders

(09:02):
from the get go. Because I don't think you're digging
out of some big hole or you might create for
yourself a big hole against the Los Angeles Rams.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, I mean I think the I you know, like
the Minnesota game, for example, you knew you were going
against a rookie that you know, where do you played
New Hampshire or something?

Speaker 2 (09:20):
I mean Minnesota?

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Minnesota Hampshire before that?

Speaker 2 (09:24):
What an insult to the golden culture?

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Right? I think he was with New Hampshire before he
went to Minnesota. Regardless, you kind of felt like, similar
to last week, which I don't know for sure. Last week,
they maybe overthought that where Okay, they're coming in here
with a forty four year old. In that case, they're
coming in with this rookie has no experience, they're gonna
have hard time getting any points on us, and so

(09:46):
it we're going to be really conservative, right, and then
as all of a sudden the scores start to mount,
you're giving up nothing against Minnesota, right, you end up
shutting them out that it's kind of okay, it's okay
to be less than offensively throughout the course of that game.
That the Tennessee game was one, if I remember correctly,
where they kind of got out to lead, and then
all of a sudden they were within an on side

(10:07):
kick of making it kind of scary. And so I
think that there's situations where the score doesn't always dictate it,
but there's no ifens or. But you can't the last
three games, I'm just looking at a stat here. The
only teams that are worse in the first half as
far as scoring points is the New Orleans Saints, Las
Vegas Raiders, Arizona Cardinals, and the New York Jets. What

(10:28):
in the last three games on the first half? Okay,
got it. So they're slow starts. Yeah, they're down there
with Cleveland. They're tied with Cleveland. So that's I don't
know if that's good if you want to be tied
with them for anything. So you're just talking about that,
you're not playing two halves. You're playing mediocre first half
and then you're figuring out a way and if you

(10:48):
score thirty one points in the second half, hey, that's
going to work out often. But there's other times where
you're not going to do that. You can't expect that
you're going to go out and score six points or
three points in the first half. Against the Rams on Thursday,
and then you're just gonna explode for thirty one. And
yet on the flip side of it, you know you're
probably not gonna give up enough to You're not probably
not going to give up enough to anybody to where

(11:08):
you're gonna need to do that. But you better damn
well think you better. You better recognize you got to
go out there and play two four full quarters of
football otherwise you're gonna find yourself behind. And now all
of a sudden they're in control of do we just
run and take the air out of the ball or
do we then kind of pop one on you when
all of a sudden you think that you're all sold
out and stopping the run because you think we're just
trying to run out the clock. It's not a good

(11:29):
situation to be in. And they've they've overcome it and
they're winning. They're winning all these games, so that's what matters.
But yeah, in order to do it against the good teams,
you're gonna have to play the whole game.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
I do wonder if especially, I know these guys are
professionals and so the chances of this are probably very slim.
But after the last time they played the Rams, they said,
you know, we can't wait for that next matchup. This
game is circled on our calendar. And I wonder if,
knowing it was a short week going into the Colts game,
if there was any thought of we're playing Philip River's

(12:00):
a guy that hasn't played in five years, and you know,
this game is kind of our warm up for Thursday.
I just wonder if there was any part of them
that was somewhat overlooking the Colts prepared to because they're
so eager for this game on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Not outwardly, it's not spoken. Yeah, I mean, nobody's saying
that in the building, like, hey, it's a forty four
year old quarterback. We got this one, as long as
we don't do blah blah blah blah blah. But that's
the psychology of sports, and as much as we talk
about it, because it is so subjective, it is such
an unknown thing. It's not a tangible aspect that we

(12:37):
can point to a statistic. It's the wild card. And
some people believe and you know, maybe we go beat
too much in sports talk radio, particularly talking about the
psychology of things and what this game means and what
that game means versus just the x'es and o's and
the Jimmys and the jos. I would argue, we don't

(12:58):
talk about it enough. We don't dress the psychology of
sports nearly enough because it's monstrous. And I will tell
you I think in the second half they did feel
like the game with Tennessee was over and the next
thing you know, you have a game. And then against
Minnesota and Atlanta, I would imagine they felt like, we've
got this one and took them about a half for

(13:18):
Mike McDonald to get on their ass and kind of
figure things out. And they're they're not doing it intentionally, no,
and I don't think they are, yeah, but but subconsciously, yes,
that does play. I think they played against Philip Rivers.
I pointed this out a couple of times. I think
that they played against Philip Rivers like you know, you
might have when you were in high school and you

(13:41):
were a high school athlete and you're playing your uncle
Joe in the backyard in a game of one on
one basketball and the next thing you know, he's up,
you know, he's up on you, s to h right
and you're like, oh, I better buggle down if I
don't want to face the family embarrassment of losing to

(14:03):
my uncle Joe and his two pay here in the
backyard of this little hoops game that we got, and
then you buckled down. I kind of think there was
an element to that. The good news is is that
if you did face that for four weeks, you went
four and oh yeah. And then the extra good news
about that is there's no way that that interferes with Thursday. Right,

(14:25):
there is no way that you're not firing on all
cylinders all week long, one hundred percent immersed, locked in.
Mike McDonald coaching staff does not have to worry about
that this week. This is as big a regular season
game as has been played in this city in a decade.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, I'm curious. I mean, I think there's two sides
of the coin. Right. We talked about how big games
are and the adjustments that you make, right, I mean,
starting out slow is not great. I mean, I know
coach Holmgren was did it, and he might have been
towards the flo front of when people did it the
whole scripted plays. I don't know when that came about.
I mean, I know that it's been going on for

(15:06):
quite some time, but you just kind of figured it.
He invented it. Probably could just give him the credit
for it, even if he didn't. I think he probably
would have invented it if it hadn't been invented before.
But I think he's it's somewhere around the time when
he was coaching, where throughout the course of the week,
you start figuring out, now, the way we're running these
plays in practice, what we're going against. This is going
to work. This this flat out will work. Now you've

(15:27):
got to stay on script, so you can kind of
stick with those with that plan. But that's something that
you don't necessarily see now. On the flip side of it,
Clink Kubiak and Mike Ben done, all the rest of
his coaching staff, whatever they do in the halftime, besides
orange slices and you know, you know, so getting rehydrated.
They've figured out a way to come out there and play.
And the second half is typically more important than the

(15:50):
first half. I mean, you typically have you know what
you have to do at that point in time. So
I mean, I think there's two different ways to look
at it. To me, though, it's you do have to
figure out a way to start putting up more points
early in the game so that you're not you don't
find yourself in this oh my gosh. I mean, you
don't want to have the Rams pinning their ears back
in the third quarter or fourth quarter because you're down
by ten or twelve points. You don't want that because

(16:12):
that could turn into what we've seen, you know, where
if Sam Darnold's rushed, then maybe he's turning the ball over.
So there's a lot that goes into a division rival,
especially the second time you're playing them, with all the
marbles on the table, so to speak. It's going to
be an interesting game. But I think that there's a
whole heck of a lot of you know, reflection that
probably needs to be done on the offensive side of
the ball when it comes.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
To so you can argue they're playing their best football
the last time they faced the Rams, and even though
I think they outplayed the Rams, they lost the game.
They're not playing their best football right now. But they
better be playing it by Thursday, because that's what it's
going to require, and not just Thursday. For these last
three games. I mean, I'm very confident you're going to
get one win out of the three and get into

(16:53):
the playoffs. I'm very confident with that. But in order
to get that number one seed, and Bucky highlighted the
magnitude of that earlier in this conversation, you probably got
to win all three of them. So let's go. Let's
get it started this Thursday. Let's find out what's on
tap on this Tuesday program.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
What's on TEP, what's on TEP?

Speaker 2 (17:18):
All right, Greg Bell will join us at seven o
five today to discuss Rams and Seahawks our Seahawks Insider,
and also should note that Philip Rivers is going to
start again this week for the Colts, this time against
the San Francisco forty nine Ers Monday Night Football. Last night,
the Pittsburgh Steelers defeated the Miami Dolphins twenty eight to fifteen,

(17:39):
and the game really wasn't even that close. Miami continuously
downplays this weather thing. You don't play well in cold weather,
just no period, and it is really surprising that professional
athletes aren't better at preparing for cold weather. Don't shrivel
don't shrivel up like the Miami dolph always do.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah, I don't always do, I really don't. I mean, baseball,
you play with a lot of dudes from that grew
up in islands, Dominican and whatnot, and for some reason,
well not for some reason, it's obvious they don't. They're
not used to it. Now. At some point in time, though,
you've got to be able to get over that. You
got to be able to just work through that and that.
You're right, the Miami Dolphins seemed incapable of doing it
when it gets.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
Coldkay, at some point you might be good and actually
need to win those games in the cold.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah, I would think that would be the goal. I mean,
they were even in the playoffs, they were even a
playoff caliber team. Oh no, it's before forty. Well, we're cooked.
I mean, it's hard to believe that they aren't better
on when the weather is colder as professional athletes. College
Football Playoffs starts this Friday. Alabama and Oklahoma will get

(18:48):
it started Friday. Then there will be three games on Saturday.
So the second ever true college football playoffs starting this Friday.
Transfer portal is filling up fast and with a lot
of big name quarterbacks. Won't dive into that. We won't
have that frenzy until the first week of January, but
it is coming. You dub won a national championship last night.

(19:10):
The soccer team for the Huskies won by a final
score of three to two in overtime over North Carolina State.
Congratulations to them a national championship and they did it
with a golden goal, which is a goal in overtime.
And yet because we have replay now in our sports world,

(19:31):
the celebration was on then subdued because they had to
review it. And some of the analysis I heard was
they were technically off sides. But man, that's a tough
call to make to take a national championship out of
somebody's mouth because one guy's shoe halfway was off sides

(19:53):
and you might have taken away a national championship winning goal.
But they decided to let the old stand and then
the stage two of the celebration started.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah, I mean, they would have had to get all
dressed again. I saw the dude that won his shirt off,
just he had an undershure.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
You're gonna lose if they take that away. There's no
way you're liking it back up. Yeah you feel like it,
Yeah you can't.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Yeah. Good for them, though, I mean in NASH Championship,
first time ever for the Huskies to win Anas Championship
in men's soccer, I think, so kudos to them. There's
not a whole heck of a lot of feelings. You
go through a lot. I mean, I don't know in
soccer how much you do in college, but I'm sure
there's a lot of running which doesn't sound very fun
to me. And then yet at the end of it, it
doesn't matter how bad the prep was. It's worth it

(20:35):
when you're voicing the trophy feeling never cracking.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
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(21:00):
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(21:20):
And coming up on the other side, what's going on
with that Michigan job. Sports Radio ninety three point three KHARFM. Hey,
good morning, It's Chuck Buck and Ashley with you here
on this Tuesday. Plenty to discuss on today's program as

(21:43):
we get ready for Seahawks rams on Thursday. But there
are some other things as well, which we'll get to
in a moment. That Michigan job is still available. Who
wants to be a Michigan Man. We're going to discuss
how it affects us here in Seattle here in a
little bit. Do you want to let you know though,
that bender that always doing good things? Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly.

(22:05):
It probably like holds doors for people, I'm sure. Yeah,
in real life. Yeah, probably is kind to the elderly, guaranteed.
Weird yeah, weird stuff that guy does. Anyway, he's got
his one big give. He's been doing this for twenty
three years. He's only twenty five years old, but he's

(22:28):
been doing this for twenty three years on the radio.
He may he raises like trillions of dollars for Seattle
Children's Hospital. He's just does an amazing program every year.
And he's got Jody now of course over there at
the Jet doing the same thing. So all day broadcasts
six am to seven pm. It's Bender's one big give

(22:51):
King Neptune himself. It benefits the Uncompensated Care Fund, helping
Seattle Children provide all the necessary care to kids in
our region, regardless of the family's ability to pay. If
you want to get involved eight three three eight five
five zero nine five seven to make a donation, or
you can go to give to the Kids dot com.

(23:14):
So there you go, a lot of great things going on.
Nice job Bender, Jody and everyone with the Jet and
iHeart that is involved with this. Every year, they did
an amazing job raising a lot of money for Seattle
Children's Hospital. All right, let's talk about the Michigan Wolverinees
head coaching position, because until it's filled, I guess we

(23:34):
can never truly relax around here. Jedfish's name has come
up quite a bit, and yet so is Kenny Dillingham's,
and so is Kaylen de Bores. Kaylin de Bor getting
ready for Oklahoma this Friday. It became a major talking point,
and really the one big takeaway from his press conference

(23:56):
yesterday was his response to the Michigan job. He wouldn't
have spent more clear that he is not interested. He
has not reached out to gauge interest, he has not
spoken to anyone. And as soon as he said that,
the question that followed up from the reporter, Hoarde was
all right, just to be clear, you're going to be

(24:16):
Alabama's head coach next season? And he laughed it off,
and he says, yes, I am going to be Alabama's
head coach next season. And that's all fine and dandy
except the fact that he pretty much did that here
not long ago. So it's really hard to believe any
of these coaches until a Michigan, until Michigan announces who
they are going to steal, because they're stealing somebody stealing

(24:40):
somebody's coach from them, So until they actually make it official,
I think anybody with a coaching candidate that has been
rumored wherever there is smoke, you have to be on
guard as to whether or not you're going to lose
your head coach.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah. Well, I mean the idea of it's not going
to be some guy that's coming from high school. Right,
It's not going to be some guy that's you know,
coaching at like a lower level. And we're you know,
Michigan's going to give him his next shot at you know,
his first shot at coaching the big time college program.
It's going to be somebody you're gonna sniper, somebody that's
doing big things at you know, at the power forward

(25:19):
level for the most part. And so yeah, I mean
I don't take any of the things these coaches say.
I wouldn't write it in pen I most certainly wouldn't
trust anybody.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah, and that's unfortunate, I suppose for all of these
coaches who are trying to recruit or trying to get
ready for a game. But you did a lot of
you you sort of earned this, and then they just
the industry and it's in and of itself, it is
a byproduct of that, and you coaches aren't doing much
to keep it from occurring.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean in calen To War,
for example, I mean, he did leave. He left here
after basically, you know, saying all the things that you
want your coach to say, like I'm happy here, this
is you know, I got roots here, my daughter's here,
dream job, dream job. Now, I mean, without throwing shade,
because I'm not intentionally throwing shade. The idea of leaving
here to go to Alabama, which is one of the

(26:08):
most prestigious brands in college football, is different than leaving
Alabama to go to Michigan. Maybe as big, if not bigger.
I mean, the storied history of Michigan. I get that.
That to me, The only thing that would make him
want to switch there is just I'm more of a
big ten guy, you know, I just kind of it
kind of fits my m Michigan's more my style than

(26:30):
Alabama is. But I don't feel like there's a big
you know. It feels more like it would be a
lateral move if anything. As far as your competition, like your.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Well, the reputation of Alabama is that the community makes
your life miserable unless you're winning national championships. And if
and Kaylen de boor knew that, his eyes went wide open.
He his eyes were wide open to that reputation. There's
nobody that follows college football that doesn't know that. And
so if he got there and then was oh wow,

(27:02):
this is what they meant, Oh, this sucks. My wife
hates it. You know, we can't go to the grocery
store without being told we suck. You know, if that
has gotten to him, then maybe a move to the
Midwest where they kind of do, where he's closer to home,
Where he's closer to home. They actually don't make it

(27:24):
everything at mission. It's big, but it's not everything. It's
not every single waking moment from every single fan. Maybe
he would look at that as an escape without diminishing
the stature of the position that I hold or my salary.
Maybe he would, But he made that very clear in
his press conference yesterday that his family's very happy in Alabama,

(27:48):
which was important. He went out of his way to
say that. As for Jedfish, you know, he sort of
earned this reputation as well. I don't hear his name
mentioned as prominently as it was initially. It kind of
feels like it's moving toward canny get Kenny Dillingham at
Arizona State. But that said, he hasn't gone out of

(28:08):
his way like the boor has to shoot it down either.
So until Michigan hires a job, there's no way that
a Washington Husky fan can feel one hundred percent safe
that Jedfish isn't leaving. I mean, I think that he
does entertain ideas of Fischigan, you know, being being that
guy at that program, that position. I think that is

(28:30):
something that interests him, whether or not Michigan's as interested
in him as they would be a Kenny Dillingham. You know,
that's what we don't.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Know the idea of. I mean, you know, you have
these headhunter firms that are going out there and kind
of helping run these things for the athletic director for
the school, and obviously they're reaching out. I mean Kaylen
de Boor and Jedfish and Kenny Dillingham were kind of
that early early board, the hot board, if you will,
that was where they were going after. To me, Jedfish

(29:01):
has kind of shot it down, but not as blatantly
as Katherin do wars like no I'm here, I'm not
going anywhere right. Fish didn't necessarily come out and just
basically kind of put try to squash the whole thing.
To me, it does seem like it's heading in the
Kenny Dillingham direction, just simply because him being an Arizona
and now he's coaching basically his dream job, right. I

(29:22):
think his sister lives next door and his parents live
right down the street. He's basically right where he would
have ever hoped you would be. And yet now if
you've done a good enough job at Arizona State that
a program like Michigan has come and calling. That's where
I think the tears were coming from. When he was
doing his little press conference.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, he cried at the end of last week over it,
and a lot of people read into that as he's leaving,
like he wouldn't be this emotional if he wasn't about
to go back on his word yeah to Arizona State,
And that's kind of how I read into it as well.
I think maybe the lesson to be learned here stop
acting like you've got your dream job.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
Well yeah, and and just say, you know, I don't
know right now, I'm here and this is where I
want to be, and just say if you just say
right now no and con fault you for what you
do next week, I don't. I'm still curious because if Michigan,
it doesn't seem like they're in a big hurry right
now to hire right because they haven't done it yet,
and they've got till the second right when the transfer
portal opens. I would be curious if Alabama loses to

(30:24):
Oklahoma if Kaylen Debor has offered that job.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Again.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
I's a great point because if it was Jed Fish,
don't you think they would have announced it? Yeah, because
they would waited till after the.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Bowl game it'd be done.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
It's Kenny Dillingham. What are you waiting? You're gonna wait
for him to make sure he to try to negotiate
a new deal with Arizona State? Or are you gonna
put heat? I didn't an answer right now. I mean
that's the art of negotiation, is it not. So maybe
they are waiting for something. Maybe it's on NFL coach
who knows. Maybe they are waiting for something to this.
Bucky's made this point in the past. If it's the

(30:57):
right guy, aren't you willing to wait?

Speaker 1 (30:59):
You know?

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Same with LSU. Why couldn't you have waited? You didn't
want to wait. You could have waited. You didn't want
to wait because you didn't want Ole Miss to have
nice things. So you've tried to hurt ole Miss while
still getting your guy. That's what you tried to do
at LSU. So yeah, I think that's a I think
that's a terrific point. Why are they waiting if it's Jedfish,

(31:22):
Why are they waiting if it's Kenny Dillingham. Maybe it
is somebody who else has another thing to do before
they take the job. We shall see, all right. Coming
up next Seahawks Rams on Thursday. And one thing this
week that I don't want to see the Seahawks do
Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM to hear what

(31:43):
I'm about to say about the Seattle Seahawks as we
get ready for the Los Angeles Rams for some Thursday
night football. I sort of get the idea of the
philosophy Bucky that Mike McDonald and Clint Kubiak have come
into the season with, but that I think there has
been a little bit of a problem. And we talked

(32:04):
about a little bit yesterday with coach and Hugh where
this commitment to the running game where it's still lasting
like into the third and fourth quarter. Hey, I get
trying to establish the run, and I'm all for that,
but you have been so ineffective running the football as
of late. I'm not sure it's having the desired effect,

(32:25):
So go ahead and try to establish the run against
the Rams. But I don't want to keep trying to
establish the run deep into the second half this Thursday.
I don't think that you can afford a slow start
like you've gotten off to and you know, your last
three games in a row and your commitment to Ken
Walker and Zach Charbonnet that has really produced nothing. You know,

(32:50):
I want to put this game in Sam Darnold's hands
quicker than what they've been doing it here as of late,
even at the risk of more pressure on our quarterback.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Well, I think that those can go hand in hand.
And I'm with you. It's not like drop back and
throw sixty times. It's just you don't have to be
one for one. You don't have to at the end
have more rushes than pass attempts. And I think that
there's a part of it that it benefits Sam Darnov
not just can he get cooking and get warm and
you know, find the connection with JSN and whoever else

(33:22):
he wants to find on that given day. But you
actually pass when they maybe think you're going to be
running right, whereas the first time they played the Rams
jumped out into a lead, and next thing you know,
you had to all of a sudden do it come
from behind. And so in that second half primarily I
mean threw an interception early in the game, but the

(33:44):
three other interceptions that he threw was when they knew
he was throwing because they were behind. You were trying
to come from behind. So now you let those pass
rushers kind of pin their ears back and the guys
sitting back there are just waiting for a little bit
of a mistake or an Aaron throw, and took advantage.
I'm with you. I flipped the script a little bit,
try to do something a little bit different to just
give your offense a little bit of a spark earlier.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
And I don't know when the jumping off point is.
I mean, when Mike Homgrin and Hugh Mellen are both
in agreement, like several weeks in a row, I tend
to think that they might be on to something right
about this. I don't know when that point is in
the game where you're like, we just can't run the ball,
we just can't do it. But I think it's earlier

(34:26):
than when they're deciding it. Yes, and so to me, yeah,
go ahead and try to do that. I mean, look,
the San Francisco forty nine ers actually have fewer yards
per carry than the Seahawks, believe it or not, three
point five. They have Christian McCaffrey on their team, for
goodness sake, and they're winning at a pretty good clip
themselves at ten and four. But most of the teams
behind the Seahawks and yards per carry this year, they

(34:49):
are Cleveland, New Orleans and the Raiders, three teams that
have gotten terrible quarterback play this year. We don't have
a terrible quarterback. We got one of the best quarterbacks
in the National Football League right now in Sam Darnold.
And I actually think that the lack of run game,
I don't even know if Sam Donald believes it his
His play action pass fakes are terrible right now. They're

(35:13):
so sloppy they're not convincing whatsoever. I mean, think about
the guys who in who have been convincing with their
play action fakes. Peyton Manning, I mean, he was like
Daniel day Lewis. That's how good an accurate he was,
you know, playing out at all he could do was
play action, Yeah you were. He sold it like nobody
sold it. Aaron Rodgers, one of the great He's probably

(35:37):
the best I've ever seen at play action faking Tom Brady.
I mean, we're talking about the best of all time.
These are the best of all time. And when they
are told to fake like you're gonna run the ball,
fake like you're gonna run the ball, Sam just basically
just sticks it out and then pulls it back in immediately.
He doesn't even believe they can run the game, run

(35:57):
the ball. Sam doesn't even believe they can run the ball.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Well.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
I do want to talk about these couple of things
with Hugh a little bit later on in the week,
But to me, I don't think it's serving you any
great reward to continuously try to establish the run well
into the second half when it just ain't working.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Well.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Yeah, And you can tell if it's working or not
by seeing how many yards you're.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Getting when you're doing it.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
Right, I mean, it's not Hardt indicates it's not hard.
So if you're like, gosh, we're only getting two or
three yards of carry, maybe we gotta pull it back. Yeah,
if you're getting six and eight yards of carry, yeah,
keep going with the run game.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
It's working all right. Coming up next, we'll ask Greg
Bell about that. We also have your headlines. It's Chucking
Buck Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM
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