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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Great Crooks.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Good morning everyone, Good morning, it's some time. Good morning
class ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Hold introducing six one guard from Brighton, Illinois and former
high school basketball stand What the hell does that mean?
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Jumped any conclusions?
Speaker 5 (00:20):
Not a god, You've got to lower lower your expectations.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Hard to believe.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
We could once send a fastball to.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Pluto getting some Bucky Jacobson vibes and former.
Speaker 6 (00:30):
I'll just openly admit I'm a fat, out of shaped
X athlete.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Now there's been a noticeable spike in your blood pressure.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Five seven guard and a former college water polo national champions.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
A lot of useless crap up here.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Wow, this is Chuck and Buck in the Morning with
Ashley Ryan Buck to you buy to Latok Casino Resort
and quill see the Creek Draftking sportsbook where the action
never stopped.
Speaker 7 (00:56):
There you go, Hey, good morning and welcome into the
radio show. It is Chucking them back in the Morning
(01:16):
Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Here on this Wednesday.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Home day, which is normally magical in its own right. Yes,
it is the time where we typically start the preview
of the next Sea Hawk game.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
But today when man we're two three days into this already.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Hell, I was into it right as I was watching
Philip Rivers walk onto the field Sunday, I was already
into it. So we are way into our Rams Seahawks
preview and now here we find ourselves on the eve
of the game of the Year, and so we will
be discussing it quite a bit here on the radio program.
As you might expect, Greg Bell will be with us
(01:58):
a couple of other surprises that we'll out for you
with what's on tap, and so certainly that'll be the
driving force behind this hump day edition of Chuck and
Buck in the Mornings.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
But we have to.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Start just quickly before we dive into some of this
Seahawks analysis of this game. We've got a champion in
our midst She's won another crown, So hang another banner
at the five Iron household.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
How's that?
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Well, she's water polo champion, as I know that, Yepen mentions.
And now she's also a cart champion.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
A decorated carving cart.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah yeah, so congratulations, thank you. This one might mean more.
Speaker 8 (02:38):
I mean, we've been doing this for years and we
go all out and decorate our cart and.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
And when you say years, how long like four years? Okay,
part five years. We do it, and you know, everybody
goes up.
Speaker 8 (02:49):
They have a big open house and then there's a
parade and everyone judges the cards.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Then we go around the neighborhoods. So it's a blast.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (02:56):
And yesterday I just had a feeling it felt different.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Uh huh, it felt different.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
It felt different, and uh.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
You woke up feeling dangerous.
Speaker 8 (03:06):
We did Mayfield were Russell Wilson with a subway sandwich.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Okay, yeah, and uh and and I it felt different
for a reason because when we walked up there, I
knew we were going to dominate. I knew it.
Speaker 8 (03:20):
We got out of our cart, we walked in and
I was like, this is our year, this is our year.
We did the parade, we got the the prizes were
handed out or laid out, and they said, and our winners,
we have a first place tie.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Oh oh.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And it was us and our dear friend Sharon.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Oh wow, you both won first place.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
One first place tie must have been phenomenal.
Speaker 8 (03:46):
Decorating it was phenomenal. Not one of our best efforts,
but clearly the crowd loved it.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Yeah, Well, went over the crowd. Gladiator told us that, yep,
are you not entertained?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
And they were, and that's it.
Speaker 8 (03:58):
You know, sometimes it might not have be your best
decoring effort, but you got to put forth with the effort.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
And we gave it all all.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
You won the crowd, you won your freedom.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So tied for first. Yeah, and second. How do you
how many carts get decorated in this type of thing?
Speaker 8 (04:14):
Usually, I mean twenty to thirty. This ye was a
little different, different, like for there were two.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Oh man, yeah, oh man.
Speaker 8 (04:27):
See, so when I walked up and saw the other
cart decorated, I was like, there's this year is different
and there's two. We're getting a prize this year.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Boy, it really sucked if you finished second this year.
Speaker 8 (04:41):
I thought we were honestly going to finish second because
I when I say it was not our best effort.
We put some tinsel on the outside because it was
pouring and we didn't want it to blow away.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
But then we had Palmer and a Christmas tree outfit.
Baba the Great and the.
Speaker 8 (04:54):
Christmas tree outfit put you over the top. She walked
right in front of the cart. She was in addition
to the cart actually.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Probably put you to the top since you didn't finish
over the time, just.
Speaker 8 (05:03):
Put us at the top alongside the other person that
made an effort to show up with a decorated cart.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
It didn't put you below the top, correct, yes, correct.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yeah, so it played a role.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
So there you go, guys.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, that's impressive.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, and you know what, I'm impressed. It might be
a strong word.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
In fifty years when they're talking about the champions and
even co champions, they're not.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Gonna they're not going to say out of how many cars?
Speaker 8 (05:27):
Oh no, they definitely will, because everybody was laughing, like
the fact that because there were a lot of people
at the open house, nobody just decorated carts because the
club will provide carts and people can decorate those.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
But it's pouring and they don't have doors, so they're
gonna get soaked.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
You know what, when they talk about Bill Russell's eleven champions,
uh huh, chips. You know, the Celtics themselves don't point
out there were only like ten teams in.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
The league, right, you know, right, you know the Yankees.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
So when they you know, in the Babe Ruth days,
nobody goes out of their way to say that there
were only fourteen teams in the league.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I mean, think about it, think about it.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
That I will think about it basically the Celtics dynasty.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And I like that thought process.
Speaker 8 (06:05):
The problem here again, though, is that everybody laughed a
lot because there were only two carts. So it will
be talked about for years to come. How two people
braved the elements to show up for the cart parade
and one of them made her child walk in the ring.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
You know what.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
That's another part of this that has to be etched
in history, is how much you braved the elements.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
See, And that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
I mean there were gale force winds.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Going on and a lot of water and a lot Well, congratulations,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
We're going to celebrate this moment.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
We got a champion on it. That's right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
When we started this show. Oh okay, how many were
in it? I don't even care you were.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
At the top.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I don't remember how many were in it. All I
remember is the moment. It was.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Yeah, I was the champion of my meal I had
last night. I was the only person that ate it
and I won it.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Congratulations, I defeated the meal and how did it feel.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Uh like a winner?
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yeah, I felt like a winner.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Well, there you go, and that's the way the Winsday edition.
Speaker 8 (07:07):
I me.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
You know, it's great to win a championship before even
play your biggest game of the year. So look at
the look at the leg up Ashley's got on. All
RAMS fans just.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Wanted to get us, you know, off on the winning FLA.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
It's not like a RAM fan one, No RAM fan
one last night the other people weren't.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Rammed, I would have taken the prize and run.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Okay, well Ram Seahawks. It is tomorrow night. And of
course I don't know if there's anybody in the National
Football League in analyst that's questioning whether or not the
Seahawks defense is ready for this matchup against Matt Stafford.
They've already faced the Rams, uh and did well. Matt
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Stafford has had an MVP season. The only time he
didn't look like an MVP was against the Seahawks when
they faced him. He actually looked confused at times. He
certainly didn't put up the numbers that have made him
an MVP candidate. And so I don't know if anybody's
questioning whether or not the Seahawks defense is going to
be ready for this matchup tomorrow night. But it feels
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like everybody's questioning whether the offense is where it needs
to be heading into this game. Yet they posted some
big numbers eventually against the Atlanta Falcons and ended up
with a blowout eventually against the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
But there's some red flags going on around here.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
As Hugh Millen helped us point out on Monday morning,
you played the Indianapolis Colts with Philip Rivers quarterbacking on
the other side, and yet you didn't score a touchdown
four quarters. You didn't score a touchdown at home against
the Indianapolis Colts, And so there are a couple of things.
Number one, why are you settling for so many.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Field goals these days?
Speaker 5 (08:46):
We also have the Sam Darnold turnover issue that Greg
brings up a lot that is undeniable. It's factual information.
He's one of the league leaders in number of turnovers
individually as a quarterback this year. And certainly there is
a big concern over a lack of a running game.
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No matter how hard they try, no matter how much
effort they give toward this project, they don't seem to
be getting better at it. And so as we get
ready for the biggest game of the year, you do wonder.
You have to wonder whether or not this offense is
in a good place to pull off its biggest win.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Of the season.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
They're gonna have to show up and play one of
their better games, you would think, and or you know
that combined with some mistakes for that the defense forces
some mistakes, or you know, some short fields for them
and whatnot. But yeah, I think that you can come
off of a win against a team that is heading
in the opposite direction of where you're wanting to go
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in the Colts, I mean, and who they were playing
at quarterback, all that kind of stuff, you could you
can come off of a win and still not feel
better about yourself going into the bigger, biggest game. And
I think the offensive side of the ball should Now
is that a different ball game if you're playing against
the Rams. Is there times that they go for it
on fourth down when they when they decided to kick
field goals? I think quite possibly, because typically the Rams
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are a team that isn't going to have as much
of a difficulty of putting up points as well no
matter how good your defense is, they're still going to
they're still going to get down and they're going to
move the ball from time to time.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
It's it's against their offense.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
You're thinking, we got to contain this situation, you know,
when we think our defense can, it's not. You're not
probably going out there thinking a shutout as likely, And
so I think the offense has to do a little
bit more than just hopefully kind of stay in it
that type of a thing, because they're just there's some
danger on that rams side of things, and it's not
like their defense is some slouch either. They can take
the ball away from you, they can get after the pass,
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so they can they can fortune mistakes too. So it's
there's a lot going on into this thing, and I
think the offensive masterminds over there definitely have their hands full.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
As much as I like going forward on fourth down,
I mean, I'm not Greg Olsen, but I'm more in
the Olsen category. I do like going forward on fourth down.
I don't like settling for field goals. I really didn't
have a problem with those decisions. I mean, there were
six of them to be made on Sunday, and each
time Mike McDonald took the points and it turned out
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to be just enough. I don't really want to. I
don't really like playing football that way. I think Pete
Carroll did this. Sometimes. I just want to be there
in the fourth quarter. I'd rather be up ten in
the fourth quarter. Frankly, Yeah, I don't want to sit
there and let it hinge on whether or not I
can stop a team from getting into field goal range
or if we can get into field goal range. Because
we're playing a one score game. I'd much prefer having
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a big lead heading into the fourth quarter. So I
don't necessarily, I mean as a whole, I don't like
putting our putting my team in that position. That said,
the six decisions that he made, I don't know if
I had a problem with any of them. Where I
do have a problem is the way that Clint Kubiak
seems to be approaching, you know, getting into the red zone,
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or as Hugh and Coach talked about on Monday, the
fringe zone, which now you only have to get in
the fringe zone twenty to forty yard line, because that
puts you in field goal range in today's game, especially
when you're boasting the hottest kicker in the National Football League.
But it's very clear that this team's not really running
the football effectively, and we have now had fourteen games
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to try to figure out how to do that well.
We're getting ready for the biggest three games of the
year against three potential playoff teams. Two of them are
going to be on the road, and so I don't
want to sit here and just spend my entire game
trying to establish that we can run the football.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
And I'll give you two great examples of this.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
I mean, you try to establish the run in the
first quarter, you can't get anything going against the Indianapolis Colts.
At the end of the first quarter, you finally start
clicking Donald hits cup for sixteen yards, then Donald to
Shiheed for thirteen yards, and you go from the thirty
eight yard line to their thirty three yard line, and
no time, you're at their thirty three yard line and
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you started going up tempo. Even the announcers pointed that out.
Look at how they're just racing to So it's like, okay,
all right, we tried to establish the run. You're not
going to abandon the run late in the first quarter.
But you got to get the offense going and it
looks like you have and what did they do on
the next three plays? Walker run left, pitch left, walker left, draw,
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walker field goal. By everything that you got going, you
then just gave away. And I realized that the art
of football is to do something that they're not expecting,
but not at the risk of doing something that you're
good at. Right right, I mean, because we've seen throughout
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history that I mean, Mike Holmgren didn't not throw the
football because he knew the defense knew that they could
throw the football, and to me, that is happening way
too frequently. There are other examples in it as well,
like there were a couple of drives that bogged down,
a Brady Russell drop, a missed PI.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
At one point, you had two at the end of
the first half.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
You're trying to just get a field goal out of it,
and so you're trying to get into field goal range.
You're not trying to put together a long touchdown drive
at that point, and so that's how you finished with
three points at one point. And then later in the game,
kind of the same thing happened. They were rolling, they
were clicking, and then they decided once we're in scoring range,
let's run the football, and the thing bogged down again.
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And so I'm not saying that he has to change dramatically, Ashley.
I'm not saying you abandoned the run. But man, this
is not in the must win category, because I think
you're making the playoffs no matter what. But if you
want to win the division, this is a must win.
And I don't want to sit here spending the entire day,
spending every drive trying to make sure the Rams know
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that we can run the football. We might not be
able to run the football, and we definitely damn sure
can throw the football, and we certainly have a wide
receiver that dominates football games. We've watched it time and
time again, no matter how many people that they put
on him. And so I don't want to sacrifice what
we do best just to show the Rams that what
we do worst.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Is something we can do.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
It's something we can do. And I think that that's
been happening way too frequently.
Speaker 8 (15:20):
Yeah, it's very frustrating that I don't think that that
you need to prove to anyone you can run the football,
And it does seem like at times they want to
prove to people that they can do it, and I
don't understand it. I noticed on Sunday that when they
started speeding things up, like you were just talking about
the tempo of the offense, that's when they were their
most successful.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
And then it would just and.
Speaker 8 (15:38):
You had a lot of energy in the building and
then all of a sudden, it would just fizzle because
the offense just fizzled. And I don't know why you
would all of a sudden change that I understand. You
have to have, you know, different plays in different you know,
a different game plan once you're inside the red zone,
but it shouldn't be a completely different game plan that
takes away your best weapon.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
The other example was at the end of the third core.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
I mean, you have the ball at the twenty at
the time, you're trailing by a touchdown, Donald that beauty
to Shaheed twenty seven yards, Donald to Cup for six yards.
Then you mixed in a run, got one yard for
your effort. Then on the very next play twenty nine
yards to JSN and you've gone from the twenty to
their seventeen throwing the football and then what happens you
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get into the fourth quarter, you have a break, you
come out of the fourth quarter, you're in their red zone.
You are in a position, and.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
What do we do? Run?
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Run, third and long pass. So that to me just
I'm not saying overhauled, Bucky. I'm not saying you a
band in the run. I'm just saying I'm not going
to spend the biggest game of the year trying to
prove to the National Football League that you have to
respect our running game. Let's do what we do best
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when it matters most.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, well, I mean I get what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
They're not a drastic overhaul, not abandoning the run, but
not necessarily being so you know, clutching onto it so
that you feel like, man, what are we going to do?
I mean, I think that there's it's a you know,
I talk a lot of times when we're talking about
baseball about like the approach right, like be ready to
ambush first pitch, fast past. So that doesn't mean I
want everybody going up there and swinging at the first.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Pitch, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
So that's like you don't want everybody, you don't want
Sam Donald to drop back and pass first down every
time just because it seems to be the way they
move the ball the best, obviously, but there's a part
where I mean that first example that you said where
their first scoring drive they go three and out their
first their first possession, the second possession is that bang bang,
couple passes and then run, run, run. It's like somewhere
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in those three, right, I mean, you could just keep
rolling with this thing.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Right and then and then you get it. Yeah, why not?
I mean the first run they run and he ends
up getting four yards. Okay, so now you're second and six.
Somewhere here you got to go. You got to just
stick with what got you here.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Take you know, dance with the girl that got you
to the thirty yard line or whatever, twenty nine yard
line at that point instead of two more runs because
you're I mean, when you get to third and four,
it's like you're just trying to trick him.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Now.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
I would be curious to find out from you or
Sam Donald if the opponents are showing them pass defenses
pre snap and then if they're adjusting to their run right,
like if it's if they maybe Clint Kubak is calling
a pass there, you would think third and four after
he goes pass pass to get down there, two runs
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and now you're at third and four. You would think
that's a pass play, right, That typically is a pass
play in the NFL. Nope, draw and then instead they
and so that might be one of those where he's
like the defense is messing with Sam Donald and he's
checking out of the play. I don't know for sure,
but I mean it's just a food for thought as
to why they do it, because I would have to
think that if you're if I'm an offensive coordinator, yes,
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I want to be able to run, but I would
also like to just move the ball in chunks. How
much easier is it when you're getting twenty yard plays,
fifteen yard plays, thirty yard plays. It's a whole heck
of a lot easier to move the ball down the
field versus thinking you're gonna get twelve runs that are
going to quit the yards and seven points.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Anybody that has been an adult and has socialized at
some point in their life, at one point at a
party was in charge of the music. And if the
party's jumping, you don't just suddenly choose that.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Moment to play the carpenters. No, right, I mean yeah
at the junior high party.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Yeah, you've got to strategize when you're gonna play the
slow song, because it's the only time the boys will
actually dance.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
You know, at least in my high school, a.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Lot of white people.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
But when you're in charge of your own party and
you've got you've got to read the energy of the party, right.
You don't just to suddenly go from everybody's dancing and
having a good time and then you just slip in
some Anne Murray Morose number that just kills the entire
mood of the party. And it's the same thing with
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Colin plays. I don't want to just play slow songs
just because we think we need to just feed.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
The feel, the feel, the beat of the rhythm of
the night.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
That's right, Yeah, all right, let's find out what's on
tap for today's show.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
What's on TEP, what's on tech?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
All right, Greg bel joins us this morning at seven
o five.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
His buddy Omar Ruiz from the NFL Network, who's been
doing a lot of stuff in la will be joining
us today at eight o'clock this morning, So that's coming
up on the show. Injury updates, still a question mark
about DeVante Adams with the Rams. Also, Charles Cross for
the Seahawks. Will get those updates from Greg at seven five.
College football playoff week, Oklahoma takes on Alabama Friday to
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get it started the three games on Saturday. We'll talk
a little college football playoff later in the show. Crack
and lost again last night. To Everett Fitzhugh's point, it's
not like they've been playing bad hockey, just not good
enough to win games for goodness sake, and that was
a perfect example of that last night. They actually led
three to two against Colorado, but end up losing the
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game against the best team in the NHL right now
by a final score of five to three. The NBA
It's Cup champion this year is the New York Knicks.
We got to find some time to talk about this
later on. The Knicks one over the San Antonio Spurs
to take a trophy that apparently NBA players don't want,
so we'll talk about that also, though the bigger news.
Adam Silvery yesterday discussed expansion and said that we will
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address this once and for all in twenty twenty six.
We won't put Seattle in Vegas through this any longer.
We will make an announcement this year, and he mentioned
no other city specifically beyond Seattle and Las Vegas. And finally,
Terrence Crawford forty two to ohero in his boxing career.
I know we don't make as big a deal out
of boxing anymore, but this was this guy's in the
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conversation for one of the greatest pound for pound fighters
of all time, and he just decided, I've won like
six different belts at six different weight levels, and I
don't really like the politics. I'm retiring. I got nothing
left to prove. So a pretty big story there from
the boxing world. Yesterday. Coming up next Major League Baseball,
the Mariners made a signing yesterday. We'll tell you how
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that impacts the roster going forward. It's Chuck and Buck
on a Wednesday Sports Radio ninety three point three KHRFM.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Good call, Yeah, a lot of people had that.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Yeahiers, Yeah, locked in right there on. Andrew Kissner, Chuck Powell,
Bucky Jacobson, and Ashley Ryan with you. Certainly a lot
to discuss as we get ready for Seahawks Rams tomorrow night.
That'll be most of the show. But the Mariners did
make a move yesterday, and it's a rather interesting one
because it obviously is a different kind of philosophy that
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they're going to go into into twenty twenty six with
as Cal's backup catcher, Andrew Kissner, who's bounced around quite
a bit, never has locked in as a starter, never
even has threatened to be a starter at the major
league level. Was with the Cardinals for a while, most
of his career with the Giants for a little bit.
(22:56):
This is about as classic a backup catcher signing as
you can make right here. There will be no cute
playing around with you know, Garver will DH some and
then he's the backup catcher and you know, Harry Ford,
maybe we can teach him to play left field and
second base.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
There'll be none of that going forward.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Things that we've discussed numerous times here over the last
few years and even projected going forward. The Mariners are
just going with classic. We have a starter, he is
a super duper star, and we are going to give
him a classic backup and then Cal will DH whenever
he's not catching. And so that's what this Andrew Kisner
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signing represents.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
We didn't sign anything spectacular.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Yesterday, Bucky, but they did marry to a new old philosophy.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Yeah, it was something I read yesterday was in two
hundred and forty some innings or something like that.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
No pass balls.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
So they're they're like, this guy's good defensively, knows how
to handle a staff, doesn't bring a lot to the
table offensively, and yet that's okay, I guess. I mean
it's it's not like there's a ton of great backup catchers.
If you can hit and you can catch, you're not
a backup catcher. You'll probably find somewhere to land. But so, yeah,
not much offensively. But I think that they're going with
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the when we're giving Cali day off, he'll probably still
be in the lineup DH and more often not, so
we keep the bat in there and we'll just go
ahead and hide that down in the eighth spot or
something and and hope that he does well as far
as receiving and catching hi blocking goes.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
I do like the idea of having a catcher with
a little bit of versatility. They played I suppose a
little bit with Fire last year where they had both
of them in the lineup that's at the same time.
And if your catcher while the other one's dhing gets injured,
then you lose the DH because that person obviously has
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to become the catcher at that point. I don't remember
it ever burning them. I don't remember an incident where
that came back to haunt them, but you certainly ran
the risk all season long of that occurring. Well, they're
not going to do that anymore, you know. I mean, yeah, well,
I guess they will because Cal is still going to
DH whenever Kiszner is catching. But I do sort of
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like the idea of having a catcher with some versatility
or a DH with some versatility.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
But I get.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Why, You're just like, why are we doing this? Why
are we trying to be cute? You know, just let's
just get a backup for Cal and call it a day.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (25:28):
Well, and that's that's the thing is I mean, we
talked about just having Yeah, you're DH with versatility, and
I was talking, you know, and when we were talking
about Jorge Plonco and the fact that he could DH,
that he could play second, that he could play third,
and he could do all of these things. So it
and it does seem to be more of the Mariner's
mo to have that, you know, that person that can
do a lot of different ways.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
I'm still on a DH with versatility. Yeah, you have
to have a DH with versatility by doing this. Yeah,
if you're going to have your starting catcher DH when
he's not catching, then you I mean you can't. Everybody,
for as long as I've been here, we're let's just
get an aircraft carrier. Did get that Nelson Cruise type?
You can't get a Nelson Cruse type because you.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Gotta have someone else that can do something else.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Yeah, because that means you're gonna sign some big bat
to be your DH and he's gonna sit on the bench.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Every five days.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
I mean that's you're gonna have to now gab a
DH with some versatility because now you no longer have
a backup catcher with.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Any type of versatility. If that makes sense, No, that
makes sense.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
Yeah, I mean I think they we know this organization
is likes guys with versatility, period, right, I mean it's
six superutility guys.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
I mean they like before it's Superutility Team.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
Yeah, they got like the superutility guys, and so I
mean they're gonna there's not a ton of those aircraft
carriers out there anyways, So you know, you're when you
get down to the next tier of guys, right, the Schwarbers,
the guys like that. You're just like yep in the
game every day you're dh That's all there is to it.
That's there's not a lot of those guys out there,
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So you try to find somebody that fits the bill
as that's what you're gonna do majority of the time.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
When we want to give our catcher a day off.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Every once in a while, Kyle's gonna need a full
blown day off, right, So where you don't, you can
have your backup catcher in there and he just gets
a day off and comes in a pinch, hits and
wins the game late. But I think that for the
most part you're gonna have. You're gonna go out and
sign somebody that can play a little bit of first,
or can play a little bit of third, or has
done something somewhere and isn't you know, old or just
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incompetent when it comes to defense, so that you can
you can have that person, whoever it is you sign
and cal in the lineup on a bunch of days,
you give him day off behind to play well.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
The first name comes to minds Geno, because now you
can you can put Williamson and Gino on the roster together. Yeah,
so that means that Gino's your third baseman who gets
defensively replaced late in games when Kyl DH's but Geno
dh is most of the time and you go big
on defense at third base. So that's a possibility. It
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makes sense with the Brendan Donovan. Donovan seems like a
decent ass a really good asset to add. He seems
like a wonderful Polanco replacement. He doesn't do anything great defensively,
but he won a Gold Glove as a utility guy,
and we've had one of those before. So he can
play second, he can play third, he can play outfield
even for you and Brendan Donovan, and he can hit,
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at least against righties. He can hit, and so that
really makes sense because now he can sort of platoon
if you wanted with a Williamson at third, and then
he can also DH for you. But if he's hot,
you want to keep his bat in the lineup. When
Col's dhing, he's got that position to play. So yes,
this certainly suggests this signing more so than being excited
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about Andrew Kisner. It does clarify how they're going to
use this position. He is nothing but a backup catcher,
and now your everyday DH pretty much has to have
defensive flexibility, which is what I think they like anyway.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
So that's not going to be a big upset in
this offseason.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
Yeah, I mean, and ultimately, you think one hundred and
sixty games, and you just said earlier, like every five games,
you don't want to have a situation. I mean, Cal
is still probably at the place where he's not wanting
to have that day of rest, even DH and rest
every five days. He's wanting to be out there. But
they do typically try to find somebody that that backup
catcher connects with as far as the starting rotation goes,
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that they start him against that guy. So it'd be
interesting to see if that works out like that.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I do think Cal looked a little tired at the
end of the year last year. He should have. Yeah,
I do think he looked a little tired.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
So I know he wants to catch every day and
everything else, but they've got to keep.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Him from himself. And that's what a lot what this
move means. Could we yeah, could we get Kisner to
change the spelling of his name though.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Because it smell it smells like Nissner.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
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Speaker 2 (29:57):
Feel the beat of the rhythm of the night tomorrow.
That means, don't run just because you think you've got
to run, Okay, and obviously you should know that. Clint,
are we clear?
Speaker 4 (30:07):
I think El DeBarge has made this clear.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
It's Chuck Buck and Ashley with you. Greg Bell's going
to join us at seven oh five. We also have
your headlines at the top of the hour as well.
So a lot on the Seahawks Rams tomorrow. But weather's
going to play a big role in this game, and
there's really no getting around it. I mean, we might
have gone home yesterday and thought, well, maybe the wind
storm will.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Blow around us.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
Well that didn't really happen. Don't know, it didn't happen
when I thought it was going to happen. But obviously
the wind kicked up last night. And so even though
local weather is not one hundred percent accurate, I don't
think we're going to avoid weather tomorrow during the course
of the game.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
No zero chance of that.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
I mean, I've heard different reports about how much it's
going to rain or if it's going to rain, but
I've heard wind is almost certain. And that's the thing
that Hugh always tells us as the worst part. So
I don't know if that then tells, you know, Clint
Kubiak to not listen to whoever that was DeBarge.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Is that what we.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
Say because it's just windy, we have to run even more.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
All I'm saying is feel the beat of the rhythm
of the night. Bucky, Ashley and I have been really clear,
and the three of us have been.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
We have been, but sometimes the wind affects your rhythm.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
If if the rhythm is that you're actually running the football,
then run the football.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
That's where the rhythm takes you. Run.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
The rhythm tells you you just can't throw the ball
as well.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Then run the football.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Here's the problem.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
What I'm saying is if you're throwing the ball and
you can't run the ball, don't just try to force
a run. It's too big of a game. Feel the
beat of the rhythm of the night. I can't believe
this isn't.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Clear to you.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
It's clear.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
To Ashley, it's clear. Actually, I understand what you're saying.
I'm saying I'm worried. If there's a possibility of the
wind affecting the throwing of the ball, the capability of
throwing the ball, and then you're still not really running
the ball effectively, then what do you do Here's keep
running the ball and it's not working, or just say hey,
you got to spin it more. It says how you
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spin it faster, it cuts through the wind.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
What you do is you feel the beat of the
rhythm of the name.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
And if you don't feel the beat of the rhythm
of the night, the rhythm is gonna get you, right.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Yeah, Yeah, that's the problem. I don't think Clint Kubiak
realizes that.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
See, I always thought Gloria Stefan was really a negative Nancy.
I mean, think about the message she's delivering compared to
our friend optimistic El Debars, right though the bar's a
glass half full pop star, let's say, let's face and Gloria,
I mean, she's killed a few people, let's face it.
She's always tried to put a damper on things. The
rhythm is going to get you. What should I hide
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beneath the bed.
Speaker 8 (32:43):
Should I be scared of it? Or should I face
it head on? Gloria.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
I like El Debarge's message, and I hope Clint Kubiak
is listening to that on the way to work today.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
But the weather is going to play a role, There's
no question about it.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
And and I do think that wind is the bigger issue.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
I don't think temperature is going to be the issue.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
I think that.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
NFL quarterbacks can throw a wet ball. But wind is
going to be the bigger issue. They're saying eighty eight
percent chanceer rain, but we could have wind up to
twenty miles per hour. And I don't know if you've
ever played any kind of sport out in twenty mile
per hour weather, but it pretty much affects us about
any sport that you're playing, and it certainly is going
to play affect football. And to Bucky's point, it's going
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to affect the passing game more so than the running game.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
That's very clear.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Shouln't even have to state that.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
But it's also going to affect the kicking game, right,
and that's been something that we have relied on too
heavily as of late now maybe that gives us a
little bit of an advantage. Maybe Myers is just that good.
Maybe he's that used to how the wind blows at
our stadium versus Josh Cardy, who's used to kicking indoors
for his home games. So maybe we want to win
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because our kickers better and our kickers more accustomed to
the elements. Maybe that will actually benefit us in the
long run. But certainly the kicking game is going to
be affected tomorrow, there's no getting around it.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
Well, if you get to kick with the win, we
might see an eighty seven yard field goal.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, tomorrow, you'll have to move one yard.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
And on the flip side of it, if if you're
going into the wind, you might get what you like,
which is go for it on fourth down. A bunch
like you can't kick into that, Yeah, you kid, just
can't do it, And so that you go for it, it
could be interesting. I mean, I don't I don't love
weather games when the weather overtakes the game. But I
actually there's part of me that every once in a
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while doesn't mind it watching a game like that because
it's then you have to adapt and overcome, you have
to figure out different ways that's the beauty of a full,
well rounded team, right, I mean your defense. Usually you
can get a real defensive slug fest if the weather's
real bad, and so both defense have to show up.
But then it's like which offense can find a way
to move the chains enough to punch it in the
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end zone once or twice and that might be enough.
So it'll be interesting depending on how the weather is.
I hope it's not too terribly windy, because I don't
want to see it to where it's just a defensive
thing where.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I don't neither team can pass at all.
Speaker 8 (35:07):
I don't want it to see it pooring neither. And
it's also supposed to be cold. It's supposed to feel
like it's thirty nine, which we would be probably more
used to than they would just temperature wise.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
Yeah, I don't think temperature will be a factor, but
wind certainly can be, and so we shall see.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
I do like the idea though, that.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Kirk Herb Street at some point tomorrow night will say
bad news is Seahawks start this drive at their own
four yard line.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Good news is they're in field goal range.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
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