December 17, 2025 • 35 mins
If the Seahawks beat the Rams tomorrow, is the season immediately Super Bowl-or-Bust? What teams do have that expectation and what is the realistic expectation for this year’s Seahawks team? :30- Expand or get off the pot! NBA Commissioner Adam Silver spoke to the press last night and brought up expansion saying that it will be looked at in 2026 for Seattle and Vegas. :45- We’ve got big things happening tomorrow night, will Charles Cross and Davante Adams be a part of it?
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Fright eight o'clock hour here on this humpday, we still
will Green Jacket Draft a preview the college football Playoff
coming up in a little bit. Also, we talked some
NBA expansion that news coming out to yesterday from Adam
Silver as he was there present for the NBA Cup,
which is an awesome event.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
It's maybe one of the better events any sports league's
ever come up with in the way they.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Do that in season.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I love it so much other games and then they
get so into it that they paint those immaculate floors right.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
That aren't gaudy at all.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Don't make me want to close my eyes.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah, don't give us a headache when we watch. It's
an awesome event. Keep doing it, Adam Silver. Everything you
touch turns to gold.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, yeah, you're not even remotely alien like.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Right right.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
The NBA Cup was a brilliant idea from a brilliant man.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Bravoser.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
If you are on a roll, keep the good ideas coming.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
This statement was not red.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
So yes, we did get some news on that front
that a decision will be made in the year twenty
twenty six in regards to expansion. He's not going to
put Vegas and Seattle through that any longer. So we'll
talk about that a little bit later on in the hour,
start to get into it. But of course, we have
a monstrous football game that's going to take place tomorrow.
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I was asked on our very airwaves yesterday that if
this turns out to be a victory tomorrow, does it
turn into a super Bowl or bust season for the
Seattle Seahawks. I hadn't even given that any thought, just
kind of had to come up with an answer on
the spot. But my immediate reaction was no. And I
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do think that there are teams that do face that.
I think that there are teams out there that super
Bowl or bust. I think the Kansas City Chiefs have
won so much. I don't think that finishing runner up
or making it to the semifinals of the AFC is
satisfying for them. It probably is good if the Chiefs
are on decline that they're busting out right now. I
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think it's given them a clear indication that, you know,
we just can't just adjust a few things. We probably
do need to make some serious changes roster wise, maybe
even coaching staff wise going forward. I think that has
forced them into a situation where hey, we win super
bowls around here, and if we're not even close, we
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gotta reconvene. We got to gather up, and we got
to try to see what it takes to get back
on that path. I think the Buffalo Bills are a
super Bowl or bust kind of team. I think that
the Buffalo Bills don't win the Super Bowl this year,
especially with the Chiefs not in their path and potentially
Lamar Jackson not in their path and Joe Burrow not
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in their path. If Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills
don't win the championship this year, then that mountain toward
the championship looks even larger. Next season. The climb looks
even steeper, the challenge looks even more daunting, the pressure
gets even greater on them, the weight and their backpacks
as they climb that ill gets even heavier, and so
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for them, I think it's boom or bust. I think
that anything short of a Super Bowl championship for Buffalo
this year is a disaster. It's a failure, and I
don't like saying that, you know. I think that a
lot of fan bases get into this habit of if
we don't win the Championshi anything about a championships a failure.
I don't see that being the case, and I don't
see that being the case with the Seahawks either. I
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think that they're ahead of schedule and the Mike McDonald era.
I think that they win this they get home field advantage,
they got a good chance to get into the super Bowl.
But no matter how this thing ends this year, sure
it can have the taste of disappointment, but I think
that you start next season feeling like, man, we might
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be the team to beat. I think it's a growth
period for them. Even if you lose your last game
of the year this year, I think this has been
a highly successful year and it points in such a
positive direction for this team that No, I don't think
this is a super Bowl or bust season for this
football team.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
I don't think it's a super Bowl or bust team either.
I mean a season for this team. I think the
team very likely could go all the way. To me,
I think there's you know, when you're just talking about
some of the team's Kansas City, I think theirs is
legitimately win the Super Bowl or or it's not what
we think we're capable of. I think they're the only
team that probably has the win super I think Buffalo
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Bills would be like a they need to get there,
especially now that they don't have homes in the way,
which has been the bugaboo and then the occasional burrow
or one time burrow, and that them jumping up there
and sniper and knocking the Chiefs off that pedestal. I
think this is the best opportunity for them, and yet
I don't see. I think maybe the Rams might be
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the next closest thing, but that's because they have won
one recently, and they have a veteran quarterback and aging quarterback.
They kind of it's not a new coach. They know
who they are, they know what they bring to the table.
They they feel probably coming into the season, hey, let's
do what we got to do and see how maybe
some of the bounces going here and there, and if
we find ourselves, you know, up there in the top
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of the NFC, you know, we feel like we have
a good as good of a chance as anybody else
in the NFC to get to the Super Bowl. But
I don't know for sure if they're even in that
category that I would put the Chiefs prior to this season,
starting of it's win it all or not.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I think this.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
I think the Seahawks, it could a lot could weigh
in how the next three games go of whether or
not this is a I think this team, no matter
how the next three games go, is going to be
in the playoffs, and they're they're going to be a
dangerous team because of how good that defense is, even
if they have to go on the road. We've seen
under Mike McDonald the going on the road doesn't seem
to be a giant issue now. Going on the road
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in whether during in January against playoff caliber teams is
a different thing than going to New Orleans, you know,
for a game or something along those lines. So to me,
I think that the Seattle I think the Seahawks have
played themselves with three weeks left to the end of
the season into I could legitimately see how in the
next two weeks we're talking about this is the best
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team in the NFL possibly and so getting to the
super Bowl. Anything less than that could be disappointing, but
not necessarily bust.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
And winning the Super Bowl is a whole different ballgame.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
I don't think there's anybody that's left in the equation
that should be thinking, if we don't win the super Bowl,
it's a failed season. I just I think there's really
one team, and that's Kansasy Chiefs that maybe should have.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Buffalo in that.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I'd put Buffalo in that because if Buffalo doesn't win
it this year, like I said, everything looks more difficult
for them, and I think Sean McDermott does get fired.
I think that they would get to the end of
the season and say where can't win it With Sean McDermott.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
If they got to super Bowl, they lost the super Bowl,
you think they'd fire him.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Maybe not.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
That's still a step, that's still a step in the direction.
That's why I mean, I don't think there's this win
the super Bowl. Let's get to the super Bowl, or.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I would bet you that Buffalo is really rethinking how
they've built the roster. I guarantee you. I won't guarantee
it if they made it to the super Bowl. But
even if they lost the super Bowl, I think Sean
McDermott's jobs and I think this might be his last
chance to try to pull the show that he's the guy.
He's facing a lot of criticism this year, and he
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for wasting Josh Allen's prime. And I think for sure
the general manager is on blast, like, get the guy
some damn weapons. You know that many weapons? Ye, so
James Cooks a weapon. But I do believe that they
would do some serious soul searching and make serious changes
where comparing that to the Seahawks, they could lose their
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last three games. Mike McDonald's our head coach next year,
John Schneider is our general manager. Sam Donald's our quarterback.
Jsn's our number one receiver, and everybody in the organization
feels like they are ahead of schedule and are Yeah.
I mean, if you lost all three, that would be
a crutching way in this season, not even making the playoffs.
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I'm not really even entertaining that scenario. But even if
you lost your last game, no matter when it occurs,
I think the Seahawks feel like, man, we are on
a great path right now versus Buffalo. I think they
could win, lose the Super Bowl and still consider getting
rid of their coach, making some major changes to the
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roster and so forth.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
And I think a lot of it has to do
with the expectations going into the season. Right, Buffalo was
expected to win twelve thirteen something games. Right, they were
expected to do really well. And so as now you
have no, you don't have the Chiefs to deal with
your super Bowl or bust plans kind of got bust.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yer really right?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
You have your equation.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, your expectations are higher.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
And if you don't at least make it to the
super Bowl because now you don't have the Chiefs to
knock you out, I mean, that's what their fans are thinking.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Whereas the Seahawks, I think you've now put yourself into.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
The playoffs or bust.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
If you don't make the play playoffs at this point,
people are going to be really mad.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I give you.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
But as far as super Bowl or bust, No, Now, now.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Coming through this season and the surprise kind of that
we've had of how well this team has done, I
think you go into next year and you're you're now
going to be really looking at that is it a
possible super Bowl or bust ahead of going into next season,
just because you've had this success and now this is
Mike McDonald.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
That would be Mike McDonald's third year. Now your expectations
are a whole lot higher, but I think.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Right now, having having this season and then you start
next year, Yeah, it is. I don't know if it's
Super Bowl or bust, but it's.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
An expectation of the actually, at least to the NFC Championship.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
We're Yeah, this is you're you're you're getting the team together,
and it is we're winning the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Sure, that's that's going to be your start to next season.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
You're right.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
If you collapse completely and somehow statistically marvelously don't make
the playoffs, uh, that that would be crushing. Yeah, considering
where you are at this point, and then maybe there
is a little bit of of soul searching. But assuming
you make the playoffs, which means you've got to win
one of your next three games, after that point you lose,
I still think that you're feeling awesome going into the
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off season about the direction that you're in. But you're right,
the expectations at the beginning of next year, they're ratcheted up,
and that's what you want. You want the expectations, and
I think that they're bring them all on. I think
that that's where the organization is right now. But I
do think I mean Baltimore Ravens. They're a team that
if they don't somehow get into the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
This year, a massive disappointment.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Massive disappointment, and I think they entertain some changes organizationally
this offseason. I don't think they would take that lightly
in Baltimore. Pittsburgh right now is obviously going through something
where I don't know if it's Super Bowl or bust,
but they're I mean, they are booing one of the
most successful destined for the Hall of Fame head coaches.
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They're chanting fire Tomlin every single home game for three
quarters at a time. So obviously Pittsburgh's going through a
little bit of do we have to kind of shape
things up? Do we have to change things up this offseason?
Where I don't see the Seahawks being a part of
that conversation whatsoever, barring we go zero to three and
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somehow don't miss don't make the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Yeah, which is I mean, have to be some crazy
opposite of a miracle that would have to happen.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
So I mean, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
I mean, I just think that right now you're sitting
inyar two of Mike McDonald and you're feeling good about it,
You're feeling great about it, okay, and then you have
a giant game coming tomorrow, another big game, another important
game against a team that's shooting for a playoff spot
in the Carolina Panthers. And then you're the final one
where you book in the season against the Niners, who
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you know, one of your division rivals and they're fighting
for a spot in the playoffs as well. I mean,
I think that right now, it's like playoff football starting.
It starts tomorrow for the Seahawks, and it's one of
those You've got to go out and play your style
of football, right and we know what it is. This
isn't we're getting towards the end of the season. This
defense is going to keep teams in the game. You're
going to keep your team in the game. The offense
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can be absolutely potent. I mean they're you look at
all their different numbers and they're tops in the leagues
and like points per play, so basically they can strike
and they can strike quick. And then sometimes what we
basically talked about multiple times throughout the show.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Today, they revert back to.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
But we got to make sure they know we'll still
just grind it out on him, Well, yeah, or you
could just keep hitting JSN who's uncoverable apparently, and just
keep you know, now you're finally getting a rapport with
rashi Ji. Those two and Cooper Cup can be a
nice little blanket that, you know, for a third down
conversion here and there. I think that the team needs
to just figure out, this is what our identity is,
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and regardless of how they do that, we know that
this team now is heading in the right direction, that
you've got the coach you want. If people want to
doubt Sam donald whether or not he's your franchise guy,
well he's your franchise guy this year.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
You're riding or dying with him right now.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
I don't think he's going anywhere next year unless for
some reason you got in on a borough sweepstakes. That's
maybe the only thing you think you're upgrade, and otherwise
you're not drafting the quarterback and replacing Sam Donalds. I
think you could have some roster shakeup, you know, some
places on the line. Possibly, who knows what they're thinking
with ken Walker. I mean, maybe he just isn't. Maybe
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he isn't the guy that's supposed to be tot.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
In the rockets.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Thinks anyway, Ken Walker's back here next.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Yeah, well he's on the end last year of his contract,
so you're gonna have some some roster movement.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
But everybody has roster movement.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
I think in general, though, the point of they know
who they are, they know what they got, and they
are happy with where they're at. That doesn't change in
the slightest if they don't get to and or win
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I think the Chargers are a similar team to the
Seahawks second year of a new coaching regime. Show progress
in the first year, showed even more progress in the
second year. Looks like they are destined for the playoffs.
If they crash and burn somehow before the end of
the season, sure, that's going to be crushingly disappointing. But
I think that the Los Angeles Chargers would get to
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the end of the year and say to themselves, love
our head coach, love our quarterback. He's still young and
maybe and is in his prime right now. Man, if
we would add just healthier offensive lineman this season, who
knows what we could have pomplished this year. But I
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think that that's a similar story to what the Seahawks
are operating the Chargers no matter how they lost in
the playoffs, I still think that they're celebrating their season
and feeling like, man, we are just scratching the surface. Fellas.
Let you know, next year we went it off. Just
as Ashley said, I think that that's the start of
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the Chargers season next year. Yeah, you always put on
the bulletin bore. We're not going to eliminate any kind
of goal like the super Bowl. We're here to win
the Super Bowl, right, But I don't know if you
really believe that when the season started, if you're the
se if you're a Seahawks fan or a Charger fan,
or even somebody that's inside the building. Next year, though,
that's what you're saying, and you are meaning it, and
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it is on the chalkboard for a reason. You believe
the progress you've made in two years in this new regime,
the quarterback that you have, the things that you've learned,
the roster adjustments that undoubtedly every team will make to
fine tune the product in the next year, feeling like
we are a super Bowl team and we will accept
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nothing else.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah, we did those tiers at the beginning of the
season where we put every team in it, and the
Seahawks were. I think that we decided, most of us
decided they were underestimated. We thought they were going to
be We know we're better than other people think we are.
Something along those lines. Yeah, and that, and I agree
they are better than most people I think thought they
were at.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
The beginning of the season.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
And I think it would have been unrealistic for anyone
to have Super Bowl expectations going into Mike McDonald's second year.
Now it's been an awesome, wonderful, pleasant surprise to see
how well they've been doing. But yeah, there's no way
in hell you go into next season not having super
Bowl expectations.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
In the meantime, why not win the Super Bowl?
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Do it when nobody expected you to.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I wasn't expected. I mean, I think I picked the
Seahawks to go twelve and five, which is pretty aggressive. Yeah,
maybe I said eleven and six with the chance to
go twelve and five. Remember, given myself a win ones. Yeah,
uh so I had really high expectations. But even I
did not think at any moment the nation would be
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having the suggestion is this the best team in the NFL? Now,
Usually what they say in these national broadcasts, this might
be the best team in the NFC. You don't hear
them say a lot that this might be the best
team in the entire league. But you've heard it all.
You've heard it every week, and man, during Sunday's broadcasts,
you must have heard it fifteen times from the broadcast
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team that this might They just throwing it in just casually. Yeah,
we're on your face, and what might be the best
team in the NFC. I didn't think we were going
to hear the nation have that conversation about this year's
version of the Seahawks, But yeah, I think we are
in that conversation. And part of it is that Philadelphia
is not as good as they were a year ago.
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And part of that is Kansas City's not as good
as they were a year obviously, not as good as
they what they were a year ago. Part of it
is Baltimore's not the team that we thought they were
going to be. Part of it is that the Broncos
and Patriots have the two best records in the National
Football League. And I don't think that I expected them
to be in that conversation either. But here we sit,
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in year number two of the Mike McDonald era, and
we have had a chunk of this season where not
just local bias, but national guys who are always shy
of giving Seattle the credit that they deserve have entered
them into the conversation as is this really the best
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team in the league. I think that's an accomplishment in
its own right.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Oh, it's definitely an accomplishment in its own right.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
I think this season in general, though, like you were,
just kind of outlying, is part of the reason why
there's been a lot of teams that have been kind
of thrust into that conversation. Right, The Rams were for
a minute, and it seemed like there for about four
or five weeks. Whoever got that Moniker bestowed upon them
for the week leading up to it, because how dominant
their performance was and they're leading their division, they would
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fall on their face. They would have a backsliding moment
to some degree. And I think it's in large part
because a lot of people don't believe that Denver's for real,
or that New England is for real, and the second
year of Drake May in the first year with Rabel there,
and because the Chiefs most certainly the Chiefs and the Eagles.
The two teams that were fighting it out last year,
they've fallen back. One's fallen out at this point, the
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other one's falling back. It allows to where like, wait
a minute, so these other teams, and I think the
Rams are basically the consensus right now, the favorite.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
They're in the most consistent of all the teams.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
And it's because they're good and because they're proven.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
Bo It's like now Buffalo coming back and beating New
England all of a sudden thrust them back into the
conversation bit more. You know, So now all of a sudden,
you're getting back into if the it's just say, I
don't know how the whole thing's going to shake out
across the board, but if it just shakes out the
way it is kind of right now, or Buffalo ends
up tied or winning the the their division. If you
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end up seeing that, I think most people are gonna
be like I can see it being the Rams and
the Buffalo Bills in the Super Bowl because of the
provenness and who they have at the quarterback position. It's
something that more people believe in.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
To me, it's all signs point to Seattle versus the Jaguars,
for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Wow, I don't know what sign.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Write a bold statement there?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
All right? Coming up next? NBA News yesterday, Yeah, Adam Silver,
it's about time to you know, expand or get off
the pot. We'll discuss it.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
More on Seahawks Rams coming up. But then again, we've
got a football team, we don't have a basketball team.
And so big news yesterday from the National Basketball Association
Number one, an NBA Cup champion was crowned and it
was thrilling, and I hope A Silver was listening because
he sure makes great decisions.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Don't need to read the part about how you really
liked his suit.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I mean seriously, though, I mean when the when the
conversation after your little n season tournament is about whether
or not the team that won it should be embarrassed.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
That's not good.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Do you have you have you come up with a
good idea or no? I guess the ratings are really
good and and the nick certainly looked like they they
enjoyed themselves winning the Cup championship last night. But the
conversation immediately was are they really going to hang a banner?
You should be embarrassed.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Yeah, well, I mean, I'm not going to put my
I'm not going to bring my thoughts into it because
because we don't have a team, I don't tend to
spend a lot of time in the NBA at this
point in time. It's spread out amongst other things that
are that we talk about a little bit more. And
so yesterday I'm scrolling through and I go to ESPN
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or something and I see, I don't know who it was,
it was one of the Knicks players and he's got
a shirt that says champions and it says twenty twenty
five on it, and he's got that championship hat, and
I'm like, the Knicks didn't win it last year. How
could Oh, that's right, it was the NBA. Oh that's right.
I did know that was going on. They didn't know
the finals were happening last night. So, and I mean,
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I do get paid to watch sports, so it's like
I keep up with.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
It, but it doesn't really even resonate.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
Now.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
There's a lot of other people out there that love
the NBA and they were following it and maybe they
love it. But I'll just say, because we still want
a team here, I loved it exactly.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I could not wait to get home and have it
on that TV.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
What a tremendous idea. I watched every second.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I definitely did not walk into my living room and think, oh,
it's the NBA Cup Finals.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I did not know that.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
You didn't think that.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I did not think that.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
He has very clearly instructed all of the people that
have NBA rights, like, you will talk good about this.
You will talk, you will say superlatives about it. I
mean even Charge even whipped Charles and Kenny and Shack
into line. Yes, he did to stop talk because they
were destroying it when the when the idea, and he
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got to them and told him you stop doing it.
And so all the networks are acting like it's a
big deal. And I guess the ratings are pretty good,
so maybe maybe it is better than what I'm presently
giving it credit for. But it really does seem silly,
like the height of absurdity. But nonetheless, yesterday news that
impacted us here in Seattle. Adam Silver was interviewed at
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the big NBA Cup Final because it was a major event,
and he said that yes, we are going to expand
in twenty or no, let me take that back. We
will make the announcement on expansion in twenty twenty six.
So he didn't commit to we are going to expand
he just pretty much said, we've been stretching this out
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long enough. We've been keeping Vegas in Seattle on the
edge of their seat. We're not going to put them
through this any longer. We will make an announcement definitively
and the calendar year of twenty twenty six about what
our expansion plans are. And he did mention the other
aspect of it, He said, and other teams that we're considering.
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It was Seattle, Vegas and other teams that we were considering.
So what can we read into this? Is what I
read into it. Seattle and Vegas are the only two
possibilities if they are going to expand we're going to
get a franchise. And then the other thing that I
read into it is that I didn't have to read
into it. They will make the announcement in twenty twenty six,
the calendar year, and I read into it that they
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are going to expand. I don't think that he would
have gone out of his way to discuss it as
much as he did if he was planning on pulling
the rug out of those from underneath those two cities.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
I mean he had mentioned kind of the difference between
you know, they're wanting to expand to like an international league,
but this is different. Expanding here is different. You're cutting
a couple more pieces into the pie of the owners,
and so they're trying to figure out that. They're trying
to get these billionaires to just be like, hey, it'll
help the league if you get bring in two more markets,
even though now you're getting one thirty second, you're you're
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worth one thirty second of the league.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
But the way in which he went through it, he's,
you know, kind of almost apologetic to some degree of like,
I know that people feel like we've kind of been
teasing them, stringing them along here because they're in Vegas
here and and in Seattle. And then he went on
to say Seattle's had a team and they were very
successful there. We think Las Vegas can support a team
here even though they have all these other sports.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
You know, we have a WNBA and.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Just so you know, well they can because people just
travel there from out of town to watch their team
play against them I mean the teams themselves, the Vegas.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
They can support Raiders a struggle, but they can't support
all the teams that they have. Somebody is going to lose.
Maybe it's not the NBA.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Because they've got baseball going there too.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
It just feels like so far, like you know, the
Nights are doing well, the Raiders are doing well. I mean,
any NBA or NFL team is going to play because
people but it just because it's such a destination. It
just feels like teams just are like, I'll go watch
my team play there. It's like a home game almost
because more and more opposing fans go. But I read
into it that it's happening. It's just a matter of when.
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And the nice thing is that they're going to say,
definitely in the next year, in twenty twenty six, we're
gonna find out.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Well, we're going to hold you to that well, and
that's but that's otherwise we're gonna stop watching the NBA.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Come, oh, don't say I don't think I can do it.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
That's Here's this is what bothered me is that you
had plenty of opportunity to say things like this six
months ago, when everybody was expecting that some sort of
announcement about expansion was going to come. You could have said,
you know what, it's you know, we have we don't
have the we haven't had the time to talk about
it right now, but this is when we're going to
talk about it, and said, he just kind of kept
pushing it along. So I do think that, you know, yes,
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he has been dragging it out and dragging people along.
When we had four times last year we were expecting something.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I think he had egg on his very handsome face.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yes, such a good looking man, yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I think he was surprised at the complications that he
ended up confronting and didn't know what to say, so
he just kicked the can down the road.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Yeah, but that was the annoying part.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I agree that it's annoying, but I also think that
he as Commissioner's hands were tied. I I mean, we
heard from a lot of reliable sources last year that
it was going to happen okay, and so we were
going to find out in twenty twenty five, So I
think he had every intention of announcing it in twenty
twenty five. But to Bucky's point that he was bringing
up all of a sudden, some of the owners started
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being really difficult about it, and you know, and I
didn't think he saw that coming. Yeah, and then they also,
I think they knew that gambling scandal was coming as well.
And so how was that gambling scandal going to go
when we're thinking about bringing Vegas into the league? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
True?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
And so do we announce that and then two months
and then run the risk that two days later we've
added Vegas and we have a gambling scandal on our hands.
So the gambling scandal sort of had its day. It
felt horrible for the league at the time, and this
is what we do now. We kind of just let
it go now.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
And it feels like he waited for enough of that
dust to clear and then he said, Okay, enough enough.
And I do feel I do feel I believe him
when he says, we can't keep doing this to those
two cities. And so yes, Expander, get off the pot,
as I said coming into the end of the segment,
And I think that he feels that way as well.
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So I think just from a business standpoint, he got
caught off guard by a few things and he couldn't
go through with the plan, his calendar, his schedule of events.
He couldn't go through with it and didn't know what
to say. So he just said nothing and kicked the
can down the road. And that's what I'm sure that
his lawyers instructed.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Him to do.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Say as little as possible, don't give anybody any ope
until we can figure out we dot these eyes and
cross these t's and clear up this red tape and
cear up that red tape. And so I think that's
what happened to us a year ago. We were victims
of circumstance, not victims of Adam Silver in twenty twenty.
All right, Coming up next, more on the Hawks and
their Thursday night match with the Rams. It's Chucking buck
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Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ R f M.
(29:42):
You know what I've heard?
Speaker 7 (29:44):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (29:44):
No, what something I've heard? There's a pretty big game tomorrow.
Oh yeah, also heard that Christmas is right.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Around the corner.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
No a big game here in that MBA Cup was over,
so there's no more big games.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Oh I guess yeah, Christmas is next week.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
See, I just I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
You know, people tomorrow, that's so crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, people talk, you know, you don't know what kind
of rumors or gossip to believe. I be I didn't
hear that around the neighborhood, Christmas is all.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Wait, people are talking talking about people I know.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Right Bonnie. Uh and and so I guess the same
people that say Christmas is right around the corner might
be right that there's a big game tomorrow. It might
be Seahawks Rams Thursday Night football. And you know we're
gonna roll it out twelfth Man round Table. There's nothing
like a game day twelfth Man round table. It's the
best thing in the world. It's like celebrating Christmas with Santa.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Oh yeah, I usually celebrate uh huh.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
And so we're gonna have our twelfth Man roundtable tomorrow
on on game Day, and part of that twelfth Man
roundtable will be our Seahawks insider Greg Bell, who gave
us an update earlier this morning on the two big
injury stories heading into this game, one for the wide
receiver Devonte Adams and one for the Hawks left tackle
Charles cross Well.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
They both were estimated not practice again. The Seahawks had
a t shirt practice or walked through, and they said
if had they had a fuller practice that they estimate
that Charles Cross was not a practice with the hamstring
issue to Vante Adams, same thing for Los Angeles. Look,
hamstring issues are probably the wrong injury to try to
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go three days rest and play two games on and
especially with two teams that are going to be playing
in January. So I would be surprised at this point
if either one of them play. The word I'm getting
from friends of mine that around the Rams in LA
say that Adams is probably not going to play. But
the McVeigh is kind of doing a little bit of
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gamesmanship by saying we'll take it up the game time.
I'm pretty sure that's what McDonald's going to say the
same thing about Charles Cross today. But I would be
surprised if either one plays. That means Josh Jones left tackle,
and it means probably more of three tight ends for
the Rams. They played twenty four and a half percent,
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almost twenty five percent, one out of every four plays
in three tight ends, by far the most in the league.
The league average is five percent. Colby Parkinson has been
very good for them, the former Seahawks, of course, that
they drafted. First four years in the league with Seattle,
he's been the primary thrust of that, But they have
a Terrence Ferguson, a rookie that also sixty six, two
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hundred and fifty pounds. Becomes a matchup nightmare when you
have to cover Parkinson and Ferguson and a third tight
end who has three touchdowns. But I wrote for the
News Tribune yesterday, I think the Seahawks and the Seahawks
think the Seahawks are uniquely prepared for this because of
Nick Emon Warry in particular, they have an asset that
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not anybody else has. They can mix and match Witherspoon
and Emon Worry on if they go three tight ends.
They can put Witherspoon on cooking Thekua. They can even
put Nick even Warre on poopunkua because we've seen even
Warrey even covering Justin Jefferson. So, like I said yesterday,
I think Mike McDonald's got unlike any other defense of
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minor League. I think he's got Sean McVay. I think
we may see that again tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
How about that, Greg bell Arshack, Since if when hear
the entire conversation from seven oh five this morning, do
so on our podcast ninety three to three kjar dot
com a daily podcast for you to use whenever it
is convenient for you. Yeah, Nick emon War is a
great storyline, been a great storyline all season long, and
I think that he plays a big, major impact tomorrow.
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But getting back to the Charles Cross situation, I really
liked what I saw from Josh Jones in the preseason.
I mean, it's just preseason games, but he kind of
stood out to me. It wasn't just you know, it
wasn't just Oh, at least he didn't get Sam or
it wasn't even Sam at least he didn't get Drew
Locke killed. It wasn't one of those situations. He kind
of stood out to me as performing well. And I
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heard because I followed up with Greg with okay, update
me on the James Jones profile scouting report. Here is
he better at run blocking or pass blocking? And Greg
said pass blocking?
Speaker 4 (34:12):
That's music to my ears.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
That's what I want to hear, because I don't I
don't want another excuse to try to establish the run tomorrow.
I want to be able to throw the football tomorrow
night wind or not with Sam Donald and he's gonna
need time to do that.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Yeah, I mean, because they got Jared Vers and that
Byron Young. They got two young guys coming off the
edge of Byron Young has like eleven sacks so far.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
I mean, he's leading it pretty good. I mean, when
you're ahead of.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
The NBA Cup, but it's decent.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
Now it's not even close to that, but it's good still.
I mean, it's just not spectacular. Maybe the greatest thing ever. Yeah,
you're gonna need You're gonna need both your tackles to
perform because they're gonna try to get in Donald's face.
That was what basically one of the game was forcing
him into making a couple of bad throws here and there.
It's gonna be an interesting part of the whole thing.
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You're right, he's not done poorly. You look at his
PFF numbers and it's limited, right, and so you don't
take a lot into it because he's i mean, it's
like fifty some snaps that he's played. But yeah, the
passbocking numbers are good, the run bocking numbers not so much.
So maybe it forces Clint Kubiak's hand to some degree
into Clinton, if you know, now it's like, hey, we
just can't run towards him. You know, maybe they're gonna
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run to Abe Lucas his way, But then I think
Anthony Bradford's on that side.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
So if that works.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I think you just throw to JSN fourteen times.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Yeah, yeah, all right, in a row, in a row.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah, all right. Coming up next on the program, we're
going to preview the college football Playoff which starts on Friday.
And you know how we do that, that's right, crack
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Fright eight o'clock hour here on this humpday, we still
will Green Jacket Draft a preview the college football Playoff
coming up in a little bit. Also, we talked some
NBA expansion that news coming out to yesterday from Adam
Silver as he was there present for the NBA Cup,
which is an awesome event.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
It's maybe one of the better events any sports league's
ever come up with in the way they.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Do that in season.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I love it so much other games and then they
get so into it that they paint those immaculate floors right.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
That aren't gaudy at all.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Don't make me want to close my eyes.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah, don't give us a headache when we watch. It's
an awesome event. Keep doing it, Adam Silver. Everything you
touch turns to gold.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, yeah, you're not even remotely alien like.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Right right.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
The NBA Cup was a brilliant idea from a brilliant man.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Bravoser.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
If you are on a roll, keep the good ideas coming.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
This statement was not red.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
So yes, we did get some news on that front
that a decision will be made in the year twenty
twenty six in regards to expansion. He's not going to
put Vegas and Seattle through that any longer. So we'll
talk about that a little bit later on in the hour,
start to get into it. But of course, we have
a monstrous football game that's going to take place tomorrow.
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I was asked on our very airwaves yesterday that if
this turns out to be a victory tomorrow, does it
turn into a super Bowl or bust season for the
Seattle Seahawks. I hadn't even given that any thought, just
kind of had to come up with an answer on
the spot. But my immediate reaction was no. And I
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do think that there are teams that do face that.
I think that there are teams out there that super
Bowl or bust. I think the Kansas City Chiefs have
won so much. I don't think that finishing runner up
or making it to the semifinals of the AFC is
satisfying for them. It probably is good if the Chiefs
are on decline that they're busting out right now. I
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think it's given them a clear indication that, you know,
we just can't just adjust a few things. We probably
do need to make some serious changes roster wise, maybe
even coaching staff wise going forward. I think that has
forced them into a situation where hey, we win super
bowls around here, and if we're not even close, we
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gotta reconvene. We got to gather up, and we got
to try to see what it takes to get back
on that path. I think the Buffalo Bills are a
super Bowl or bust kind of team. I think that
the Buffalo Bills don't win the Super Bowl this year,
especially with the Chiefs not in their path and potentially
Lamar Jackson not in their path and Joe Burrow not
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in their path. If Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills
don't win the championship this year, then that mountain toward
the championship looks even larger. Next season. The climb looks
even steeper, the challenge looks even more daunting, the pressure
gets even greater on them, the weight and their backpacks
as they climb that ill gets even heavier, and so
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for them, I think it's boom or bust. I think
that anything short of a Super Bowl championship for Buffalo
this year is a disaster. It's a failure, and I
don't like saying that, you know. I think that a
lot of fan bases get into this habit of if
we don't win the Championshi anything about a championships a failure.
I don't see that being the case, and I don't
see that being the case with the Seahawks either. I
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think that they're ahead of schedule and the Mike McDonald era.
I think that they win this they get home field advantage,
they got a good chance to get into the super Bowl.
But no matter how this thing ends this year, sure
it can have the taste of disappointment, but I think
that you start next season feeling like, man, we might
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be the team to beat. I think it's a growth
period for them. Even if you lose your last game
of the year this year, I think this has been
a highly successful year and it points in such a
positive direction for this team that No, I don't think
this is a super Bowl or bust season for this
football team.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
I don't think it's a super Bowl or bust team either.
I mean a season for this team. I think the
team very likely could go all the way. To me,
I think there's you know, when you're just talking about
some of the team's Kansas City, I think theirs is
legitimately win the Super Bowl or or it's not what
we think we're capable of. I think they're the only
team that probably has the win super I think Buffalo
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Bills would be like a they need to get there,
especially now that they don't have homes in the way,
which has been the bugaboo and then the occasional burrow
or one time burrow, and that them jumping up there
and sniper and knocking the Chiefs off that pedestal. I
think this is the best opportunity for them, and yet
I don't see. I think maybe the Rams might be
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the next closest thing, but that's because they have won
one recently, and they have a veteran quarterback and aging quarterback.
They kind of it's not a new coach. They know
who they are, they know what they bring to the table.
They they feel probably coming into the season, hey, let's
do what we got to do and see how maybe
some of the bounces going here and there, and if
we find ourselves, you know, up there in the top
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of the NFC, you know, we feel like we have
a good as good of a chance as anybody else
in the NFC to get to the Super Bowl. But
I don't know for sure if they're even in that
category that I would put the Chiefs prior to this season,
starting of it's win it all or not.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I think this.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
I think the Seahawks, it could a lot could weigh
in how the next three games go of whether or
not this is a I think this team, no matter
how the next three games go, is going to be
in the playoffs, and they're they're going to be a
dangerous team because of how good that defense is, even
if they have to go on the road. We've seen
under Mike McDonald the going on the road doesn't seem
to be a giant issue now. Going on the road
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in whether during in January against playoff caliber teams is
a different thing than going to New Orleans, you know,
for a game or something along those lines. So to me,
I think that the Seattle I think the Seahawks have
played themselves with three weeks left to the end of
the season into I could legitimately see how in the
next two weeks we're talking about this is the best
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team in the NFL possibly and so getting to the
super Bowl. Anything less than that could be disappointing, but
not necessarily bust.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
And winning the Super Bowl is a whole different ballgame.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
I don't think there's anybody that's left in the equation
that should be thinking, if we don't win the super Bowl,
it's a failed season. I just I think there's really
one team, and that's Kansasy Chiefs that maybe should have.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Buffalo in that.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I'd put Buffalo in that because if Buffalo doesn't win
it this year, like I said, everything looks more difficult
for them, and I think Sean McDermott does get fired.
I think that they would get to the end of
the season and say where can't win it With Sean McDermott.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
If they got to super Bowl, they lost the super Bowl,
you think they'd fire him.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Maybe not.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
That's still a step, that's still a step in the direction.
That's why I mean, I don't think there's this win
the super Bowl. Let's get to the super Bowl, or.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I would bet you that Buffalo is really rethinking how
they've built the roster. I guarantee you. I won't guarantee
it if they made it to the super Bowl. But
even if they lost the super Bowl, I think Sean
McDermott's jobs and I think this might be his last
chance to try to pull the show that he's the guy.
He's facing a lot of criticism this year, and he
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for wasting Josh Allen's prime. And I think for sure
the general manager is on blast, like, get the guy
some damn weapons. You know that many weapons? Ye, so
James Cooks a weapon. But I do believe that they
would do some serious soul searching and make serious changes
where comparing that to the Seahawks, they could lose their
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last three games. Mike McDonald's our head coach next year,
John Schneider is our general manager. Sam Donald's our quarterback.
Jsn's our number one receiver, and everybody in the organization
feels like they are ahead of schedule and are Yeah.
I mean, if you lost all three, that would be
a crutching way in this season, not even making the playoffs.
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I'm not really even entertaining that scenario. But even if
you lost your last game, no matter when it occurs,
I think the Seahawks feel like, man, we are on
a great path right now versus Buffalo. I think they
could win, lose the Super Bowl and still consider getting
rid of their coach, making some major changes to the
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roster and so forth.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
And I think a lot of it has to do
with the expectations going into the season. Right, Buffalo was
expected to win twelve thirteen something games. Right, they were
expected to do really well. And so as now you
have no, you don't have the Chiefs to deal with
your super Bowl or bust plans kind of got bust.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yer really right?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
You have your equation.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, your expectations are higher.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
And if you don't at least make it to the
super Bowl because now you don't have the Chiefs to
knock you out, I mean, that's what their fans are thinking.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Whereas the Seahawks, I think you've now put yourself into.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
The playoffs or bust.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
If you don't make the play playoffs at this point,
people are going to be really mad.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I give you.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
But as far as super Bowl or bust, No, Now, now.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Coming through this season and the surprise kind of that
we've had of how well this team has done, I
think you go into next year and you're you're now
going to be really looking at that is it a
possible super Bowl or bust ahead of going into next season,
just because you've had this success and now this is
Mike McDonald.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
That would be Mike McDonald's third year. Now your expectations
are a whole lot higher, but I think.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Right now, having having this season and then you start
next year, Yeah, it is. I don't know if it's
Super Bowl or bust, but it's.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
An expectation of the actually, at least to the NFC Championship.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
We're Yeah, this is you're you're you're getting the team together,
and it is we're winning the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Sure, that's that's going to be your start to next season.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
You're right.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
If you collapse completely and somehow statistically marvelously don't make
the playoffs, uh, that that would be crushing. Yeah, considering
where you are at this point, and then maybe there
is a little bit of of soul searching. But assuming
you make the playoffs, which means you've got to win
one of your next three games, after that point you lose,
I still think that you're feeling awesome going into the
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off season about the direction that you're in. But you're right,
the expectations at the beginning of next year, they're ratcheted up,
and that's what you want. You want the expectations, and
I think that they're bring them all on. I think
that that's where the organization is right now. But I
do think I mean Baltimore Ravens. They're a team that
if they don't somehow get into the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
This year, a massive disappointment.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Massive disappointment, and I think they entertain some changes organizationally
this offseason. I don't think they would take that lightly
in Baltimore. Pittsburgh right now is obviously going through something
where I don't know if it's Super Bowl or bust,
but they're I mean, they are booing one of the
most successful destined for the Hall of Fame head coaches.
(11:35):
They're chanting fire Tomlin every single home game for three
quarters at a time. So obviously Pittsburgh's going through a
little bit of do we have to kind of shape
things up? Do we have to change things up this offseason?
Where I don't see the Seahawks being a part of
that conversation whatsoever, barring we go zero to three and
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somehow don't miss don't make the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Yeah, which is I mean, have to be some crazy
opposite of a miracle that would have to happen.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
So I mean, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
I mean, I just think that right now you're sitting
inyar two of Mike McDonald and you're feeling good about it,
You're feeling great about it, okay, and then you have
a giant game coming tomorrow, another big game, another important
game against a team that's shooting for a playoff spot
in the Carolina Panthers. And then you're the final one
where you book in the season against the Niners, who
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you know, one of your division rivals and they're fighting
for a spot in the playoffs as well. I mean,
I think that right now, it's like playoff football starting.
It starts tomorrow for the Seahawks, and it's one of
those You've got to go out and play your style
of football, right and we know what it is. This
isn't we're getting towards the end of the season. This
defense is going to keep teams in the game. You're
going to keep your team in the game. The offense
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can be absolutely potent. I mean they're you look at
all their different numbers and they're tops in the leagues
and like points per play, so basically they can strike
and they can strike quick. And then sometimes what we
basically talked about multiple times throughout the show.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Today, they revert back to.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
But we got to make sure they know we'll still
just grind it out on him, Well, yeah, or you
could just keep hitting JSN who's uncoverable apparently, and just
keep you know, now you're finally getting a rapport with
rashi Ji. Those two and Cooper Cup can be a
nice little blanket that, you know, for a third down
conversion here and there. I think that the team needs
to just figure out, this is what our identity is,
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and regardless of how they do that, we know that
this team now is heading in the right direction, that
you've got the coach you want. If people want to
doubt Sam donald whether or not he's your franchise guy,
well he's your franchise guy this year.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
You're riding or dying with him right now.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
I don't think he's going anywhere next year unless for
some reason you got in on a borough sweepstakes. That's
maybe the only thing you think you're upgrade, and otherwise
you're not drafting the quarterback and replacing Sam Donalds. I
think you could have some roster shakeup, you know, some
places on the line. Possibly, who knows what they're thinking
with ken Walker. I mean, maybe he just isn't. Maybe
(13:59):
he isn't the guy that's supposed to be tot.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
In the rockets.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Thinks anyway, Ken Walker's back here next.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Yeah, well he's on the end last year of his contract,
so you're gonna have some some roster movement.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
But everybody has roster movement.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
I think in general, though, the point of they know
who they are, they know what they got, and they
are happy with where they're at. That doesn't change in
the slightest if they don't get to and or win
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I think the Chargers are a similar team to the
Seahawks second year of a new coaching regime. Show progress
in the first year, showed even more progress in the
second year. Looks like they are destined for the playoffs.
If they crash and burn somehow before the end of
the season, sure, that's going to be crushingly disappointing. But
I think that the Los Angeles Chargers would get to
(14:41):
the end of the year and say to themselves, love
our head coach, love our quarterback. He's still young and
maybe and is in his prime right now. Man, if
we would add just healthier offensive lineman this season, who
knows what we could have pomplished this year. But I
(15:01):
think that that's a similar story to what the Seahawks
are operating the Chargers no matter how they lost in
the playoffs, I still think that they're celebrating their season
and feeling like, man, we are just scratching the surface. Fellas.
Let you know, next year we went it off. Just
as Ashley said, I think that that's the start of
(15:21):
the Chargers season next year. Yeah, you always put on
the bulletin bore. We're not going to eliminate any kind
of goal like the super Bowl. We're here to win
the Super Bowl, right, But I don't know if you
really believe that when the season started, if you're the
se if you're a Seahawks fan or a Charger fan,
or even somebody that's inside the building. Next year, though,
that's what you're saying, and you are meaning it, and
(15:43):
it is on the chalkboard for a reason. You believe
the progress you've made in two years in this new regime,
the quarterback that you have, the things that you've learned,
the roster adjustments that undoubtedly every team will make to
fine tune the product in the next year, feeling like
we are a super Bowl team and we will accept
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nothing else.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah, we did those tiers at the beginning of the
season where we put every team in it, and the
Seahawks were. I think that we decided, most of us
decided they were underestimated. We thought they were going to
be We know we're better than other people think we are.
Something along those lines. Yeah, and that, and I agree
they are better than most people I think thought they
were at.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
The beginning of the season.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
And I think it would have been unrealistic for anyone
to have Super Bowl expectations going into Mike McDonald's second year.
Now it's been an awesome, wonderful, pleasant surprise to see
how well they've been doing. But yeah, there's no way
in hell you go into next season not having super
Bowl expectations.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
In the meantime, why not win the Super Bowl?
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Do it when nobody expected you to.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I wasn't expected. I mean, I think I picked the
Seahawks to go twelve and five, which is pretty aggressive. Yeah,
maybe I said eleven and six with the chance to
go twelve and five. Remember, given myself a win ones. Yeah,
uh so I had really high expectations. But even I
did not think at any moment the nation would be
(17:07):
having the suggestion is this the best team in the NFL? Now,
Usually what they say in these national broadcasts, this might
be the best team in the NFC. You don't hear
them say a lot that this might be the best
team in the entire league. But you've heard it all.
You've heard it every week, and man, during Sunday's broadcasts,
you must have heard it fifteen times from the broadcast
(17:27):
team that this might They just throwing it in just casually. Yeah,
we're on your face, and what might be the best
team in the NFC. I didn't think we were going
to hear the nation have that conversation about this year's
version of the Seahawks, But yeah, I think we are
in that conversation. And part of it is that Philadelphia
is not as good as they were a year ago.
(17:48):
And part of that is Kansas City's not as good
as they were a year obviously, not as good as
they what they were a year ago. Part of it
is Baltimore's not the team that we thought they were
going to be. Part of it is that the Broncos
and Patriots have the two best records in the National
Football League. And I don't think that I expected them
to be in that conversation either. But here we sit,
(18:11):
in year number two of the Mike McDonald era, and
we have had a chunk of this season where not
just local bias, but national guys who are always shy
of giving Seattle the credit that they deserve have entered
them into the conversation as is this really the best
(18:32):
team in the league. I think that's an accomplishment in
its own right.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Oh, it's definitely an accomplishment in its own right.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
I think this season in general, though, like you were,
just kind of outlying, is part of the reason why
there's been a lot of teams that have been kind
of thrust into that conversation. Right, The Rams were for
a minute, and it seemed like there for about four
or five weeks. Whoever got that Moniker bestowed upon them
for the week leading up to it, because how dominant
their performance was and they're leading their division, they would
(19:00):
fall on their face. They would have a backsliding moment
to some degree. And I think it's in large part
because a lot of people don't believe that Denver's for real,
or that New England is for real, and the second
year of Drake May in the first year with Rabel there,
and because the Chiefs most certainly the Chiefs and the Eagles.
The two teams that were fighting it out last year,
they've fallen back. One's fallen out at this point, the
(19:22):
other one's falling back. It allows to where like, wait
a minute, so these other teams, and I think the
Rams are basically the consensus right now, the favorite.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
They're in the most consistent of all the teams.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
And it's because they're good and because they're proven.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
Bo It's like now Buffalo coming back and beating New
England all of a sudden thrust them back into the
conversation bit more. You know, So now all of a sudden,
you're getting back into if the it's just say, I
don't know how the whole thing's going to shake out
across the board, but if it just shakes out the
way it is kind of right now, or Buffalo ends
up tied or winning the the their division. If you
(19:59):
end up seeing that, I think most people are gonna
be like I can see it being the Rams and
the Buffalo Bills in the Super Bowl because of the
provenness and who they have at the quarterback position. It's
something that more people believe in.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
To me, it's all signs point to Seattle versus the Jaguars,
for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Wow, I don't know what sign.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Write a bold statement there?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
All right? Coming up next? NBA News yesterday, Yeah, Adam Silver,
it's about time to you know, expand or get off
the pot. We'll discuss it.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
More on Seahawks Rams coming up. But then again, we've
got a football team, we don't have a basketball team.
And so big news yesterday from the National Basketball Association
Number one, an NBA Cup champion was crowned and it
was thrilling, and I hope A Silver was listening because
he sure makes great decisions.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Don't need to read the part about how you really
liked his suit.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I mean seriously, though, I mean when the when the
conversation after your little n season tournament is about whether
or not the team that won it should be embarrassed.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
That's not good.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Do you have you have you come up with a
good idea or no? I guess the ratings are really
good and and the nick certainly looked like they they
enjoyed themselves winning the Cup championship last night. But the
conversation immediately was are they really going to hang a banner?
You should be embarrassed.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Yeah, well, I mean, I'm not going to put my
I'm not going to bring my thoughts into it because
because we don't have a team, I don't tend to
spend a lot of time in the NBA at this
point in time. It's spread out amongst other things that
are that we talk about a little bit more. And
so yesterday I'm scrolling through and I go to ESPN
(21:59):
or something and I see, I don't know who it was,
it was one of the Knicks players and he's got
a shirt that says champions and it says twenty twenty
five on it, and he's got that championship hat, and
I'm like, the Knicks didn't win it last year. How
could Oh, that's right, it was the NBA. Oh that's right.
I did know that was going on. They didn't know
the finals were happening last night. So, and I mean,
(22:20):
I do get paid to watch sports, so it's like
I keep up with.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
It, but it doesn't really even resonate.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
Now.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
There's a lot of other people out there that love
the NBA and they were following it and maybe they
love it. But I'll just say, because we still want
a team here, I loved it exactly.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I could not wait to get home and have it
on that TV.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
What a tremendous idea. I watched every second.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I definitely did not walk into my living room and think, oh,
it's the NBA Cup Finals.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
I did not know that.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
You didn't think that.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I did not think that.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
He has very clearly instructed all of the people that
have NBA rights, like, you will talk good about this.
You will talk, you will say superlatives about it. I
mean even Charge even whipped Charles and Kenny and Shack
into line. Yes, he did to stop talk because they
were destroying it when the when the idea, and he
(23:13):
got to them and told him you stop doing it.
And so all the networks are acting like it's a
big deal. And I guess the ratings are pretty good,
so maybe maybe it is better than what I'm presently
giving it credit for. But it really does seem silly,
like the height of absurdity. But nonetheless, yesterday news that
impacted us here in Seattle. Adam Silver was interviewed at
(23:35):
the big NBA Cup Final because it was a major event,
and he said that yes, we are going to expand
in twenty or no, let me take that back. We
will make the announcement on expansion in twenty twenty six.
So he didn't commit to we are going to expand
he just pretty much said, we've been stretching this out
(23:56):
long enough. We've been keeping Vegas in Seattle on the
edge of their seat. We're not going to put them
through this any longer. We will make an announcement definitively
and the calendar year of twenty twenty six about what
our expansion plans are. And he did mention the other
aspect of it, He said, and other teams that we're considering.
(24:17):
It was Seattle, Vegas and other teams that we were considering.
So what can we read into this? Is what I
read into it. Seattle and Vegas are the only two
possibilities if they are going to expand we're going to
get a franchise. And then the other thing that I
read into it is that I didn't have to read
into it. They will make the announcement in twenty twenty six,
the calendar year, and I read into it that they
(24:39):
are going to expand. I don't think that he would
have gone out of his way to discuss it as
much as he did if he was planning on pulling
the rug out of those from underneath those two cities.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
I mean he had mentioned kind of the difference between
you know, they're wanting to expand to like an international league,
but this is different. Expanding here is different. You're cutting
a couple more pieces into the pie of the owners,
and so they're trying to figure out that. They're trying
to get these billionaires to just be like, hey, it'll
help the league if you get bring in two more markets,
even though now you're getting one thirty second, you're you're
(25:11):
worth one thirty second of the league.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
But the way in which he went through it, he's,
you know, kind of almost apologetic to some degree of like,
I know that people feel like we've kind of been
teasing them, stringing them along here because they're in Vegas
here and and in Seattle. And then he went on
to say Seattle's had a team and they were very
successful there. We think Las Vegas can support a team
here even though they have all these other sports.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
You know, we have a WNBA and.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Just so you know, well they can because people just
travel there from out of town to watch their team
play against them I mean the teams themselves, the Vegas.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
They can support Raiders a struggle, but they can't support
all the teams that they have. Somebody is going to lose.
Maybe it's not the NBA.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Because they've got baseball going there too.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
It just feels like so far, like you know, the
Nights are doing well, the Raiders are doing well. I mean,
any NBA or NFL team is going to play because
people but it just because it's such a destination. It
just feels like teams just are like, I'll go watch
my team play there. It's like a home game almost
because more and more opposing fans go. But I read
into it that it's happening. It's just a matter of when.
(26:18):
And the nice thing is that they're going to say,
definitely in the next year, in twenty twenty six, we're
gonna find out.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Well, we're going to hold you to that well, and
that's but that's otherwise we're gonna stop watching the NBA.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Come, oh, don't say I don't think I can do it.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
That's Here's this is what bothered me is that you
had plenty of opportunity to say things like this six
months ago, when everybody was expecting that some sort of
announcement about expansion was going to come. You could have said,
you know what, it's you know, we have we don't
have the we haven't had the time to talk about
it right now, but this is when we're going to
talk about it, and said, he just kind of kept
pushing it along. So I do think that, you know, yes,
(26:53):
he has been dragging it out and dragging people along.
When we had four times last year we were expecting something.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I think he had egg on his very handsome face.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yes, such a good looking man, yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I think he was surprised at the complications that he
ended up confronting and didn't know what to say, so
he just kicked the can down the road.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Yeah, but that was the annoying part.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I agree that it's annoying, but I also think that
he as Commissioner's hands were tied. I I mean, we
heard from a lot of reliable sources last year that
it was going to happen okay, and so we were
going to find out in twenty twenty five, So I
think he had every intention of announcing it in twenty
twenty five. But to Bucky's point that he was bringing
up all of a sudden, some of the owners started
(27:39):
being really difficult about it, and you know, and I
didn't think he saw that coming. Yeah, and then they also,
I think they knew that gambling scandal was coming as well.
And so how was that gambling scandal going to go
when we're thinking about bringing Vegas into the league? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
True?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
And so do we announce that and then two months
and then run the risk that two days later we've
added Vegas and we have a gambling scandal on our hands.
So the gambling scandal sort of had its day. It
felt horrible for the league at the time, and this
is what we do now. We kind of just let
it go now.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
And it feels like he waited for enough of that
dust to clear and then he said, Okay, enough enough.
And I do feel I do feel I believe him
when he says, we can't keep doing this to those
two cities. And so yes, Expander, get off the pot,
as I said coming into the end of the segment,
And I think that he feels that way as well.
(28:39):
So I think just from a business standpoint, he got
caught off guard by a few things and he couldn't
go through with the plan, his calendar, his schedule of events.
He couldn't go through with it and didn't know what
to say. So he just said nothing and kicked the
can down the road. And that's what I'm sure that
his lawyers instructed.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Him to do.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Say as little as possible, don't give anybody any ope
until we can figure out we dot these eyes and
cross these t's and clear up this red tape and
cear up that red tape. And so I think that's
what happened to us a year ago. We were victims
of circumstance, not victims of Adam Silver in twenty twenty.
All right, Coming up next, more on the Hawks and
their Thursday night match with the Rams. It's Chucking buck
(29:20):
Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ R f M.
(29:42):
You know what I've heard?
Speaker 7 (29:44):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (29:44):
No, what something I've heard? There's a pretty big game tomorrow.
Oh yeah, also heard that Christmas is right.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Around the corner.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
No a big game here in that MBA Cup was over,
so there's no more big games.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Oh I guess yeah, Christmas is next week.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
See, I just I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
You know, people tomorrow, that's so crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, people talk, you know, you don't know what kind
of rumors or gossip to believe. I be I didn't
hear that around the neighborhood, Christmas is all.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Wait, people are talking talking about people I know.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Right Bonnie. Uh and and so I guess the same
people that say Christmas is right around the corner might
be right that there's a big game tomorrow. It might
be Seahawks Rams Thursday Night football. And you know we're
gonna roll it out twelfth Man round Table. There's nothing
like a game day twelfth Man round table. It's the
best thing in the world. It's like celebrating Christmas with Santa.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Oh yeah, I usually celebrate uh huh.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
And so we're gonna have our twelfth Man roundtable tomorrow
on on game Day, and part of that twelfth Man
roundtable will be our Seahawks insider Greg Bell, who gave
us an update earlier this morning on the two big
injury stories heading into this game, one for the wide
receiver Devonte Adams and one for the Hawks left tackle
Charles cross Well.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
They both were estimated not practice again. The Seahawks had
a t shirt practice or walked through, and they said
if had they had a fuller practice that they estimate
that Charles Cross was not a practice with the hamstring
issue to Vante Adams, same thing for Los Angeles. Look,
hamstring issues are probably the wrong injury to try to
(31:26):
go three days rest and play two games on and
especially with two teams that are going to be playing
in January. So I would be surprised at this point
if either one of them play. The word I'm getting
from friends of mine that around the Rams in LA
say that Adams is probably not going to play. But
the McVeigh is kind of doing a little bit of
(31:47):
gamesmanship by saying we'll take it up the game time.
I'm pretty sure that's what McDonald's going to say the
same thing about Charles Cross today. But I would be
surprised if either one plays. That means Josh Jones left tackle,
and it means probably more of three tight ends for
the Rams. They played twenty four and a half percent,
(32:08):
almost twenty five percent, one out of every four plays
in three tight ends, by far the most in the league.
The league average is five percent. Colby Parkinson has been
very good for them, the former Seahawks, of course, that
they drafted. First four years in the league with Seattle,
he's been the primary thrust of that, But they have
a Terrence Ferguson, a rookie that also sixty six, two
(32:29):
hundred and fifty pounds. Becomes a matchup nightmare when you
have to cover Parkinson and Ferguson and a third tight
end who has three touchdowns. But I wrote for the
News Tribune yesterday, I think the Seahawks and the Seahawks
think the Seahawks are uniquely prepared for this because of
Nick Emon Warry in particular, they have an asset that
(32:49):
not anybody else has. They can mix and match Witherspoon
and Emon Worry on if they go three tight ends.
They can put Witherspoon on cooking Thekua. They can even
put Nick even Warre on poopunkua because we've seen even
Warrey even covering Justin Jefferson. So, like I said yesterday,
I think Mike McDonald's got unlike any other defense of
(33:12):
minor League. I think he's got Sean McVay. I think
we may see that again tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
How about that, Greg bell Arshack, Since if when hear
the entire conversation from seven oh five this morning, do
so on our podcast ninety three to three kjar dot
com a daily podcast for you to use whenever it
is convenient for you. Yeah, Nick emon War is a
great storyline, been a great storyline all season long, and
I think that he plays a big, major impact tomorrow.
(33:38):
But getting back to the Charles Cross situation, I really
liked what I saw from Josh Jones in the preseason.
I mean, it's just preseason games, but he kind of
stood out to me. It wasn't just you know, it
wasn't just Oh, at least he didn't get Sam or
it wasn't even Sam at least he didn't get Drew
Locke killed. It wasn't one of those situations. He kind
of stood out to me as performing well. And I
(34:00):
heard because I followed up with Greg with okay, update
me on the James Jones profile scouting report. Here is
he better at run blocking or pass blocking? And Greg
said pass blocking?
Speaker 4 (34:12):
That's music to my ears.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
That's what I want to hear, because I don't I
don't want another excuse to try to establish the run tomorrow.
I want to be able to throw the football tomorrow
night wind or not with Sam Donald and he's gonna
need time to do that.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Yeah, I mean, because they got Jared Vers and that
Byron Young. They got two young guys coming off the
edge of Byron Young has like eleven sacks so far.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
I mean, he's leading it pretty good. I mean, when
you're ahead of.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
The NBA Cup, but it's decent.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
Now it's not even close to that, but it's good still.
I mean, it's just not spectacular. Maybe the greatest thing ever. Yeah,
you're gonna need You're gonna need both your tackles to
perform because they're gonna try to get in Donald's face.
That was what basically one of the game was forcing
him into making a couple of bad throws here and there.
It's gonna be an interesting part of the whole thing.
(35:00):
You're right, he's not done poorly. You look at his
PFF numbers and it's limited, right, and so you don't
take a lot into it because he's i mean, it's
like fifty some snaps that he's played. But yeah, the
passbocking numbers are good, the run bocking numbers not so much.
So maybe it forces Clint Kubiak's hand to some degree
into Clinton, if you know, now it's like, hey, we
just can't run towards him. You know, maybe they're gonna
(35:22):
run to Abe Lucas his way, But then I think
Anthony Bradford's on that side.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
So if that works.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I think you just throw to JSN fourteen times.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Yeah, yeah, all right, in a row, in a row.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah, all right. Coming up next on the program, we're
going to preview the college football Playoff which starts on Friday.
And you know how we do that, that's right, crack
out the Green Jacket. Sports Radio ninety three point three
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