December 19, 2025 • 33 mins
Headlines and 12th Man News with GREGG BELL (Tacoma News Tribune) We get Gregg’s reaction to the Hawks comeback victory. How did the players and coaches feel after that game and how crazy was that comeback, really? :30- Sam Darnold has been criticized for not winning the big games and performing poorly in the losses. Did he quiet the doubters yesterday? :45- We always hear from Coach after a Hawks game, so what did Mike MacDonald have to say after last night’s win?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Thirty seven thirty six rams with a one point lean
urine overtime. The top spots in the NFC west on
the line and the inside track to the one seed
in the NFC all comes down to display Tonight's in Seattle.
Here we go, the Seahawks going for two. Donald's standing
on the left, Hash takes the shotgun, snap three step
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crop looking.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Looking fired on your mouth.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
It's Cot Bias, Tonnan, Eric Suberts the god then no
one expected, and the Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Walk it off and so on to the top of
the NFCUS with the.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Thirty eight thirty seven overtime win tonight here in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Wow, good call.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah, I thought she did a great job on that car.
Kate Scott can't help but be Doc Brown when I
say her name.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Kate Scott.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Now I'm picturing him.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Hair's all crazy west Wood One. What a game. Unbelievable,
I know.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I wrote down my game notes and then every time
we do a Monday morning quarterback, and we'll do that
today with you, for with you and coach. Then I
do notes like topics that we should discuss. I have
eight pages of nothing but eighty eight topics that we
could discuss, and that's.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Just flying through it. I'm sure I could go deeper.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Eighty eight different topics that we could discuss with Greg,
Coach and Hugh on today's edition a Monday Morning Quarterback.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
That's how loaded that game was last night.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
A huge win for the Seahawks, come from behind, not impossible,
but surely improbable, recovering from a sixteen point fourth quarter
deficit to win in overtime thirty eight to thirty seven
and seize control of the NFC West and most likely
the number one seed in the NFC playoffs. Still a
lot of work to be done, though, and we certainly
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will discuss that coming up in our last three hours
of the show here today. Carolina and San Francisco the
next two opponents, but last night thirty eight thirty seven
overtime winners. Let's take a look at the Frostbrewed Corps
light Choose Chill headlines here on a football Friday, the
NFL Week number sixteen. We get to watch now stress
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free this weekend. Of course, that was hardly the case
last night. Yeah, but Saturday football Philadelphia at Washington, Green
Bay at Chicago. So NFL Saturday Football starts, and then
of course, Sundays lineup, you got Tampa Bay at Carolina
perhaps for the Division there you've got Pittsburgh at Detroit
in the afternoon, along with Jacksonville and Denver. And then
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the Sunday night game will be the Patriots at the
Baltimore Ravens. College football playoffs starts this weekend tonight, Bama
at Oklahoma gets it going, and then three games on Saturday.
Strangely enough, the best of the three is the early
game at nine am. I would have thought they would
have put that in primetime. Maybe they're just trying to
avoid going up against the National Football League. But Miami
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and Texas A and M will kick off at nine
am tomorrow, or as they say, down at Texas A
and M, nine A and M.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Thank you, thank you for laughing at that.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Really bad.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
It was really bad, but that's why it was really funny.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Crack and lose their tenth of eleven games in Calgary
last night.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Four to two was the final score.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
All right, enough, let's talk about these eighty eight topics
with Greg Bell.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Right now.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
With the bell tolls, it must be seven o'clock and
time for twelfth Man News with Greg Bell, brought to
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here's Greg Bell with Chuck and Bud.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
How about that, Greg Bell?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
How about now, that's not your run of the middle
game you've covered in your career, right there?
Speaker 6 (04:06):
No good morning. I was coming up from the press
bocks late last night and Ethan mcreynold's younger reporter for
Box thirteen here in Seattle, he asked me where that
ranked of all the games I've covered as far as
just how crazy it was and expected at tourney and
them winning. And the first thing I could think of
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was the two thousand and January twenty fifteen NFC title
game when they were down sixteen to nothing, down sixteen points,
but that was in the third quarter against the Green
Bay Packers, and then I've gone to overtime and winning it.
There were a lot of parallels to that, but that
comeback began in the third quarter and it was sixteen
to nothing at the time. Of course, Russell Wilson to
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Jermaine Curse and overtime. They sent him to the Super
Bowl and it was the Patriots, and then the Patriots
Super Bowl down in Glendale, super Bowl forty nine. And
probably we'll put it this way. I probably wrote the
second because I write a running game story that I
have to file as soon as the game ends, and
my goal is to have it on the internet five
minutes after the final whistle. I did that again last night,
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running it right, so you run the right to the
game story as the game is happening. That was probably
the second worst game story in my career yesterday. The
first one was the Seahawks Patriots Super Bowl and how
crazy that ended it was last night was largely inexplicable.
But Chuck, I would I would submit to you that
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this is an example of what Mike McDonald's been building
for two seasons. The chasing edges, the intangibles, the one
hundred percent participation in voluntary OTAs back in the spring,
the brotherhood that they have. People say, why do you
write about them shadow boxing as it did in the
Riley Mills stories. The lead to my Bridley Mills story
last week because all that stuff in tangibles, the brotherhood,
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the tightness they're relying on each other, the belief, the connectedness,
that stuff matters. If they didn't it didn't matter, then
they wouldn't stand. I don't want to spend time chasing edges,
but those are the last night was a chasing edges gaming.
You need those things in your favor for a game.
I got to go your way. It just doesn't happen.
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There has to be some roote cause for them to
still have belief, for Sam Darnold to be pretty much unshakeable.
I had my binoculars on him after both interceptions. He
didn't change at all. They he did change down in
Inglewood in four interceptions last month, he slammed his helmet
on the top of the bench. Is the only time
I've seen really any emotion on the field with him
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at all. After his third interception, he slammed helmet on
the top of the bench. But that was it. And
last night the guys A Lucas and others were talking
about he did not change at all and they were
looking at him after that second inner exception down three
to fourteen and nine minutes left me. Through the interceptions
read and unflappable the same, and there's something validating to
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the team when their leader, the guy who has the
ball and everything making the decisions, looks unfazed by the
worst that just happened, and that mattered in the end
that Donald came back and brushed off of that if
he had not thrown two interceptions. So my point is,
the tangibles matter, and the edges do matter. That's why
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Mike McDonald chases them so much. I can't really explain
why else they would win that game last night other
than that.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
Yeah, there was a lot of things that they had
to chase to find a way to win that one,
and yet they did.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
And I'm with you.
Speaker 7 (07:47):
I think Sam Donald rising to the occasion in spite
of a couple of bad throws was probably one of
the more important things for this team moving forward, because
we know what we'd be talking about he'd done it
one more time, and you know, instead instead of converting
and getting that thing, getting the job done defensively, yeah,
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you end up winning. I think that the idea our
take on this show, or at least Chucks and I
agreed after the first meeting, was felt like the Seahawks
might outplay the Rams, and yet they didn't win. This
one felt like the Rams most certainly outplayed the Seahawks
at least for the first three and a half quarters
or so. I think it was nine minutes and thirty
(08:30):
nine seconds left. Was after they had went up thirty
to fourteen. He throws that interception. I think pretty much
everybody was like, well, this was an embarrassing performance, and
yet they forced I think five punts the rest of
They missed the field going one, but they forced them
to punt I think four more times in the rest
of regulation.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
So what switched.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
It can't just be that they read something on a
board or were talked about chasing edge. Just something changed defensively.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
I asked Ernest Jones that very question. I said, well,
how did you get three three that outs in a
row against a team that ran up five hundred and
eighty one yards on you. The quarterback ran threw for
fourth seventy nine, Kuka and Akou went for two twenty
five receivements, the most in eight years against the Sex
Well changed in those three drives, because you're right, without
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those three drives, the game's over if the Rams go
down and score any points. At that point in the
fourth quarter, with nine minutes left, the sixteen point game
becomes a three score game. And I actually had to
side early in the fourth quarter when the Rams scored
to make it third or fourteen. If Sean McVay might
not go for two there to make it thirty one fourteen,
to make it a three score game. It went through
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my head. I bet it went through his. But they
were so dominant at that point he probably thought they
didn't need it. The three scored, sixteen point three score
game didn't matter, but it did. And Ernest Jones said
that they were miscommunicating on deep passes over the middle.
There was a grand canyon chasm between Ernest Jones and
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no linebacker in the safeties behind him. Actually, time and
again kept exploiting about a fifteen seventeen yard window from
the line of scrimmys down the middle of the field,
and I must have completed fifteen passes that way. Of course,
he completed twenty nine for the game. It was twenty
sever or twenty nine passes on the season on the night.
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But he said that there was miscommunication, which got worse
when Kobe Bryant went out injured early in the second half,
because then Tyle Konda came in, so there was a
disconnect between the deeper coverage and the underneath intermediate zones
and they crushed it. And Jones said that they finally
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shored that up on the three straight. That it would
also help guys is that they started limiting Kyrien Williams.
It looked like he was onto it was way to
one hundred and fifty yard night in the first half
rushing the ball, and when they limited him, third down
became third and eight and nine again instead of third
and two. And then he talked in the locker room
after the game, including Ernest Jones and a couple of
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the defensive linemen, talked about now Stafford had to hold
onto the ball longer, as Jones said, he had to
wait for his receivers to run longer routes in the
first half when it was third and two and third
and one all the time, because they were getting nine
yards on first and second down. Then he couldn't get
to the quarterback because the ball was getting up so quickly.
But if Kuka Naku was running a ten yard route
on third nine, that's a lot different than a three
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yard route on third two. And then they started affecting
Stafford a little bit, and he saw some more inaccurate
throws in the fourth quarter, stopping Williams and their plays
on the first down really contributed to getting off the field.
So there was two because third and two was killing him.
As Mike McDonald said, you can't spot rush the quarterback
on third and two, and that's exactly what their probme was.
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Most again, a couple numbers there, A couple numbers that
one excuse me, just want to point out before last night,
in the last fifty years in the NFL, if an
offense had four hundred plus yards, didn't turn the ball over,
didn't take a sack, and their defense had three takeaways.
The Rams did all that. Since nineteen seventy five, teams
were seventy nine to zero in the league. Last night
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was the another seventy nine and one. Now that's the
first time in fifty years an offense did what the
Rams did, a defense did what the Rams did, and
they lost. Wow. The second thing was Dehawks going into
the fourth quarter last night, when they trailed by sixteen
or more points in the fourth quarter in their fifty
year history, do you know how many times that happened?
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One hundred and fifty five times going into last night?
Last night was one hundred and fifty six times the
Seahawks had trailed by sixteen or more points in the
fourth quarter. Do you guys know how many times until
last night the Seahawks had won those games? Zero? Zero.
Last night was the first time in fifty years history
of Seahawks football that they won a game trailing by
sixteen and more points in the fourth quarter. That's how
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preposterous last night was.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
It was awesome.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Greg bel Is with US Seahawks Insider from the News
Tribune as complete coverge of last night's game in the
Seahawks all season long available at the Newstribune dot com.
We have to ask you about the two point tries,
three of them, all three of them successful, the forgotten
one to Cooper Cup, then the most interesting two point
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conversion in football history that will be talked about, I'm
sure for years to come. And then the game winner
two Sowberds. And you're going around talking about the two
point tries.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
What did you come away.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
With Seahawks themselves McDonald donald, nobody knew that that was
a backward pass. That was the one that tied it
thirty to thirty. That was supposed to be a forward pass.
It was a bubble screen outside and Jared Verst, the
rams eddresher, jumped up and knocked it down. But when
did Donald threw it just behind parallel? The rule is
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if it's backwards at all, it's a fumble, but if
it's parallel or forward, it's a forward pass. So it
was rolled parallel to the line of scrimmage. But if
you really broke it down. And Amazon Prime, because they
owned the world and they print money, they had these
great television cameras that the angle was perfect. It was
right along the four or five yard line to show
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that he threw it from his hand was about the
four and a half and the ball was deflected by
verse it about the four. The crazy thing about that
play is nobody thought it was well they fumble and
every one thought it was in The officials ruled that.
So the ball was just laying in the end zone idly.
I mean, it was just there like a nerf ball
in someone's backyard. They left there from last weekend's play,
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and Sharbonage just walked over to pick it up as
if he was doing the official favor given it to him.
He wasn't letting us recover it. Think about this. What
if that ball had not spun. What if the grains
of the artificial turf were not in such a way,
the wetness of having rained for six weeks here in
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Seattle did not make the turf in such a way
to make that ball spin into inside the goal line.
What if it had just spun and he landed on
the one and a half or half inchside and then
Sharboney picked it up because he just walked after he
picked it up. He just walked along the goal line.
What if he was on the half yard line. Yeah,
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that wouldn't have been That wouldn't have been too. That's
how ridiculous that play was. That was just fate that
the ball happened to spin at that exact location and
Sharbony just happened to pick it up like he found
a penny on the street. If he had picked it
up outside the goal line, then none of that would.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Have happened, right.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
Crazy. Other part of that is they were lined up
to kick a to the kick off. Everybody was on
the field, And that's what McVeigh had an issue with.
After the game, he said, wait a minute, how could
you how could New York be allowed to stop the
whole thing, the process and everything. When the officials and
everybody had already moved on, we'd moved on. We were
lined up to kick off and Matthew Stafford after the
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game said, wait a minute. I thought, you can't advance
a fumble and you get the old holy roller role
from Dave Casper in the seventies with the Raiders in
the last two minutes, And well, it wasn't last two
minutes for Matthew Stafford's case. And nobody advanced that fumble.
No one played it forward. It wasn't It wasn't considered
a forward fumble. It was considered a backward path, if
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that makes sense. So nobody possessed it enough to make
it a forward fumble, if does make sense. I think
that was what the ruling was. But yes, that is,
but that's not exactly why replay was instituted in the
NFL to correct. But if you go by the clear
and obvious mistake standard, it was right because the officials
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said it was incomplete and that's a two point play.
And by the way, it was not challenged by McDonald.
He had no idea. All two point plays, all scoring
plays in the NFL are automatically reviewed, which is how
that whole thing came up in first place. Man, there's
something else I want to mention about. Let's talk about
Salbert's two point play. When they lined up, they had
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three wide receivers to the right, including the tight end
AJ Barner. They were overloading the right side, and then
sure enough Sam johnod was looking that way, the boy
Eric Salbert was tight at left end. After the game,
McDonald's said that Salbert's the fourth read. On that I
would argue he probably is the fifth read because the
fourth was Sharbon a leaking out of the backfield. If
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he didn't have anyone to block, I'm pretty sure Charbone
would have been the option above Salbert. Salbert is a
nine year career blocking tight end special teams as who
was on his eight team in nine years, whom the
Seahawks cut a month ago and brought back to give
him a new contract. The way his contract was structured,
he wasn't going to be available to the team next year.
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They were a new signing. It was there were some
things beyond the fact it was just a one year contract.
There was some technicalities there on why they cut him
and brought him back to get him a new deal
for the rest of this year and next year. But
the fight, the bottom line is they cut him and
then brought him back. He's like the third or fourth
string tight end even though he's really second or third
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on depth truck because of his blocking. But his job
was to block, and he did. He blocked, He blocky,
blocky blocked that almost blind gave Darnold enough time to
look through five guys with the game on the line,
and the Rams chose not the Blitzer pressure but to
cover because they thought, we can cover this end zone
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better than we can the whole field. Let's put seven
men in coverage in this three yard and five yard
zone into the end zone. But they never saw Soburn.
If you look at the replay of that play, nobody
covered him because he blocked and blocked for so long
that they thought he was a blocker and they we're
not going to devote to cover guy him. Yeah, that
was crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Almost looked like he almost looked like guilty, Like you
just slipped in there, like hey, I'm kind of wide
open here.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Well it's like it's like it was like I have
nothing else to do. I've blocked that blocked, I don't
feel like blocking anymore. Let's go see what the colim
looks like. That's what it looked like. And he said, yeah,
I was a little surprised the play was going on
long enough where my blocking job was done. Not if
you go pass catch. How many times does the Seahawk
pass bloker have enough time to just decide, Okay, my
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job's done here. I'm going to go catch a pass.
That's happened like twice and ten years in Seattle. The
other thing I mentioned about Ernest Jones made sure we
all knew, including the national television audience and us in
the locker room after the game. They were talking about
it in the locker room a lot that the Rams
are laughing at him on the field when it was
thirty to fourteen when those left, Yeah, I mean flat
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as Deernis Jones said, laughing. Man today, it was disrespectful.
It disrespected us or districted our defense. It disrespected the game.
There was too much time left. Yes, he's play for him,
he said. I'm not gonna name names. He's smart enough
because he's thinking they may play him a third time
in the playoffs, he said, But they know I wrote
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a whole story about it in the news Tributes at
the News Tribune dot com right now. But they could
very well play the Ram for the NFC title. Yeah,
appear in Seattle and they will remember this. Bram's laughing
at them at thirty to fourteen of nine minutes left.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, now I want it. It's Ollie Frazier. They've got
to fight a third time, so let's do it.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
All right. Well, awesome stuff. Thank you very much, sir.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
We appreciate it, and we will certainly be checking in
with you next week.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
Yeah. Happy. We let me say this as much and
as what they accomplished last night if they don't beat
the Panthers and forty nine ers down the road anyway.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
That's Uie's league is every weekend.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
All right?
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Speaker 8 (21:05):
Guys, I was crazy, yeah, I think just overall, you
guys are gonna think I'm weird for saying this, but
we you know, I didn't think we played our best football.
I certainly didn't play my best football. We got a
lot of work to do there, but at the end
of the day, we won. And you know that the
team in that locker room, all the guys in that
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locker room, you know, we worked so hard for moments
like this. Obviously, you know, like I said, we got
a lot of work to do and we're gonna continue
to push and get better. But those guys in the
locker room deserve a win like that.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Sam Darnold, he got it done. I know I threw
two interceptions, but he got it done. In the end,
Seahawks went at thirty eight, thirty seven and overtime over
the Los Angeles Rams. If you didn't see it, you
didn't see it. Laughing at you because you really missed it.
You're a sports fan and you missed that because that
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game was mind blowing for four straight hours. It was
mind blowing. And the Seahawks end up with the victory
last night. And there's a lot of conversation about Sam
Donald there was going into this game. A lot of
people just kind of want to draw right the conclusion
about this guy. And that's I think that's the part
that I don't understand, is that so many people are
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just ready to conclude that Sam Donald just can't win
a big game. Sam Donald got off to a really
rough start in his NFL career. He was a very
young player coming into the league. He didn't exactly get
put in the right situation. I mean, who has succeeded
with the New York Jets. Aaron Rodgers is going to
be a first ballot Hall of Famer and in the
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conversation for greatest quarterbacks to ever live, and he sucked
as a Jet, Yeah, you know, and so I mean,
maybe maybe there's something to that organization. And then he
bounced around a little while, and then whatever he picked
up in San Francisco applied it to when he got
to Minnesota. And then whatever he picked up in Minnesota,
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he seems to have applied it here in Seattle. As
he said, the offense isn't a finished product. He's not
a finished product. He still have a really young man
by quarterback standards. But so many people are just racing
to the end of his career to write what a
disappointment he is, even after two consecutive years of success.
I mean, he's winning like ninety percent of his games
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the last couple of years. And so he did not
play a great game last night, and he made another
couple of costly turnovers in this contest, and for a
while there it did look like it was going to
go south. But man, I think you know he as
Greg pointed out, Bucky, he just continued to kind of
look unfazed. I'm not going to change the way I play,
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even though it's not going my way right now. And
he threw a couple of gems, one to Cup and
there were great catches too.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
And one to JSN on the sideline.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
And then to have that composure to go through your
progressions on the game winning two point conversion, where if
you don't convert this, you lose the football game, and
to go through five different progressions and then just slip
one into Sawbert there for the game winner. I'll think
a little bit of a redemption story for Sam Donald
considering all the conversation around him.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:18):
Well, I mean it's the saying of you, you don't
get a second chance to make a first impression. There's
truth to that, and yet it's not really true because
you people will label you something based on how what
their first impression of you is. And he got labeled
as a bust bust, you know, and it's like, okay,
well is that legitimate. Well, yeah, you played like a bust,
but for the Jets you were a bus Yeah, but
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they spent a third overall pick on you.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah, there's that happens to a lot of people.
Speaker 7 (24:45):
I think football even more than the definitely more than baseball.
Baseball is such a weird team sport, but it's all
individually performance based, right. Nobody helps you hit, nobody helps
you field the ball, nobody helps you throw it where
you throw it. Football so much more team oriented that
you kind of your how good your career is is
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is largely based on who you're surrounded by, who's coaching you,
what kind of scheme you're in. I mean, how much
pressure is put on you I mean, there's just so
much that goes into it. And he was like, you said,
young coming out of college, really young coming out of college,
and and failed, failed, and so then he had to
go through the route of Okay, you got knocked down
multiple pegs, but you still get to hold of clipboard,
you still get to learn, you still get to practice,
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you get to run the scout team. And he did
that for a couple of teams, and then last year
went out and led the Vikings to a great season.
And yet because of his first impression, when he failed
in the last regular season game against Detroit and then
failed against the Rams, it was right back to, well,
you're gonna you earned a collor somebody is gonna give
you a contract, but are you really worth it?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
It's like team games, franchise.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
I won, you know, majority of my first parts of
the game, and would they won fourteen games last year,
and yet I failed in our regular season finale, which
was a big game. There was a lot of seeding
implications on that thing. And yet and then failed in
the playoffs, and yet you're like, Okay, Hughes kind of
mentioned like there's not very many quarterbacks that would get
harassed the way that the Rams did to him in
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that playoff game. Would he get sacked nine times in
that game and have a successful game. And so then
you couple that with he rattles off a bunch of
wins and then throws four interceptions against the Rams, and
it's like, well, you can't. You're not going to be
any good. You just that's you. Big games, you fail.
Last night he was having moments where he made mistakes,
some of them good defensive schemes.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
You got to tip your cap.
Speaker 7 (26:37):
That defensive lineman drop him back into coverage was a
straight bait and trick type move, and he fell for it.
You would hope that he doesn't, but he did. That's
gonna happen from time to time. But the fact that
he didn't waiver and he just still made the throws
that he had to make down the wire, that to
me is the sign of a leader that you want
running your organization.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Yeah, and it seems like he is has been that
person from day one, because he wouldn't still in the NFL.
If he wasn't that person, you know, he would he
would have left, probably after not doing well with the Panthers.
I mean, just one bad team. After another, and here
he is still succeeding despite having some struggles here and there.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
So sometimes the light just goes on a little later,
and you don't know whose message gets through to you.
And obviously whatever happened in San Francisco, and I can't
believe that Rock Purdy is the guy that he credits
for so much of his turnaround. Rock Perty's younger than
him and was the last pick in the draft, for
goodness sake, and he's backing him up in San Francisco,
but he always references him. And obviously O'Connell knows what
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he's doing with quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
And then you add.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
That layer here in Seattle, with whatever Mike McDonald has
infused in him. Confidence wise, Sam really does let it
rip and it's led to more interceptions that we're comfortable with.
He's got to get better. There's certainly a short list
of guys in the National Football League I trade Sam
Donald for tomorrow. He's not proven himself as a champion yet.
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But I tell you what, I'm glad he's our quarterback.
And I think last night was a growth period. He
didn't play a great game last night. Might even argue
he didn't even play a good game, but he certainly
came through when he had to come through, and I'm
glad he's our quarterback and I think the best of
Sam Darnold is still ahead of him. We'll talk more
about that with Hugh Millen coming up at eight o'clock today,
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Coach Holmgren at nine o'clock. Mike McDonald audio coming up next,
and of course you can't have Mike McDonald audio without
first hearing your Mick delivery of the game.
Speaker 9 (28:37):
Now, Matt Cornado left side fires off the inside of
the net and I scored just inside of the top
corner web.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Side on the corn in and out the.
Speaker 9 (28:51):
Flames from down two to one, go up three two.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
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ninety three point three KJRFM, wrote these.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Words years ago in his music career.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Ain't no valley high enough, ain't no valley low enough
us from getting where we want to go.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
That's the truth. Actually that was just a Mike McDonald cover.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
He never wrote those words.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Oh ah, but nonetheless I wanted to cover it. They've
never sounded truer than they do after that game last night,
look at that.
Speaker 7 (29:53):
Yeah, well up to that point, there had been valleys
that were low enough to not get to you, or
with a win.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Not to get to the number one seed.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
Not yesterday, Yes, like that valley's not low like.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
This mountain ain't high enough.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
That was the original wording.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Was anal mountain high enough, anal valley low enough to
keep us from getting the one seed?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
That makes sense?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Yeah, I mean the NFC was I think the second part,
like the second course, it's winning the NFC.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Yeah, yeah, it's in the lyrics, some of the forgotten lyrics.
You used to paint them on the shower wall. With
you know, so fingernail paint. Oh yeah, yeah, everybody knows
that's how that's his inspiration. Mike McDonald after yesterday's thirty
eight thirty seven incredible overtime win over the Los Angeles Rams.
Humelin's going to join us to the top of the hour,
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Mike homeran at nine o'clock, So two hours of breaking
it down with two of the best in the business.
So we'll get to that in a moment. Coach McDonald
also was benefited by going three for three on two
point tries last night, including the game winner, and I
guess he felt it necessary to explain why he went.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
For two at the end of the game.
Speaker 10 (31:07):
Followed something we had talked about really throughout the season
and then really particularly for this game because of the
playoff situation. You know, you play for the tie and
you know, make the lock up of playoffs seed. But
I just felt like I just felt great about our
play and I trusted our guys and to clintch credit
to he was really confident, and then the players ultimately
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make it happen. So once we got that drive going,
it was pretty clear on what we're going to see.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
The number one seed in the playoffs, not just make
the playoffs. I mean, I don't even think it was decision.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I mean, I.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Get that maybe getting the tie, but you were going
to give them the ball back and time on the clock.
I mean, to me, that was not even a decision.
I mean, what good does a tie get you to
winning the NFC West. You had to have a win
last night because you would have still been losing the
tie breaker to the Rams. So I'm surprised to even
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gave it that much thought. I thought that was as
obvious as the sun rises that they were going to
go for.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Two right there.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
When they ended up talking about it on the broadcast,
I wonder what they'll do, and then they said, well
they would. You would think they would have to go
for it, simply because at this point they were oh
and one and an O one and one against them.
Doesn't you're not gonna you don't win that tie breaker.
So to me, it seemed like a no brainer. But
at the same time, boy, there's a lot on the
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line there, right, I mean, you do your chances of
getting the ball back, because what there was there three
minutes left, three minutes and change.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
You're not getting the ball back. Are you're giving them
as their chance probably do well. You could possibly, but yeah,
chances are no.
Speaker 7 (32:38):
I mean, if you if you get another three and out,
you could then you know, you could have played for
the tie in three and out, get a decent punt
return and complete one pass and kick yourself a sixty
yard field goal. We've seen it happen before. I mean,
three minutes is a lot longer in today's game than
it is. But I just didn't think. To me, it
was it was a no brainer. You just go for
the jugger. You're a home you got all the momentum,
the fact, I mean, the fact that the Rams head.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
They're clearly awesome at two point conversions. Yeah, even when
you fail, you succeed.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
That's yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, the stars were aligned. I
think it was a no brainer to go for it,
and obviously it worked out big win.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Thirty eight thirty seven man Hugh Millin is chewing through
the walls at his home to get on the air
and talk about this. I guarantee it, So we're not
going to wait much longer. He's next. It's chucking Box.
Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ r FM
Thirty seven thirty six rams with a one point lean
urine overtime. The top spots in the NFC west on
the line and the inside track to the one seed
in the NFC all comes down to display Tonight's in Seattle.
Here we go, the Seahawks going for two. Donald's standing
on the left, Hash takes the shotgun, snap three step
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crop looking.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Looking fired on your mouth.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
It's Cot Bias, Tonnan, Eric Suberts the god then no
one expected, and the Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Walk it off and so on to the top of
the NFCUS with the.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Thirty eight thirty seven overtime win tonight here in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Wow, good call.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah, I thought she did a great job on that car.
Kate Scott can't help but be Doc Brown when I
say her name.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Kate Scott.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Now I'm picturing him.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Hair's all crazy west Wood One. What a game. Unbelievable,
I know.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I wrote down my game notes and then every time
we do a Monday morning quarterback, and we'll do that
today with you, for with you and coach. Then I
do notes like topics that we should discuss. I have
eight pages of nothing but eighty eight topics that we
could discuss, and that's.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Just flying through it. I'm sure I could go deeper.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Eighty eight different topics that we could discuss with Greg,
Coach and Hugh on today's edition a Monday Morning Quarterback.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
That's how loaded that game was last night.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
A huge win for the Seahawks, come from behind, not impossible,
but surely improbable, recovering from a sixteen point fourth quarter
deficit to win in overtime thirty eight to thirty seven
and seize control of the NFC West and most likely
the number one seed in the NFC playoffs. Still a
lot of work to be done, though, and we certainly
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will discuss that coming up in our last three hours
of the show here today. Carolina and San Francisco the
next two opponents, but last night thirty eight thirty seven
overtime winners. Let's take a look at the Frostbrewed Corps
light Choose Chill headlines here on a football Friday, the
NFL Week number sixteen. We get to watch now stress
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free this weekend. Of course, that was hardly the case
last night. Yeah, but Saturday football Philadelphia at Washington, Green
Bay at Chicago. So NFL Saturday Football starts, and then
of course, Sundays lineup, you got Tampa Bay at Carolina
perhaps for the Division there you've got Pittsburgh at Detroit
in the afternoon, along with Jacksonville and Denver. And then
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the Sunday night game will be the Patriots at the
Baltimore Ravens. College football playoffs starts this weekend tonight, Bama
at Oklahoma gets it going, and then three games on Saturday.
Strangely enough, the best of the three is the early
game at nine am. I would have thought they would
have put that in primetime. Maybe they're just trying to
avoid going up against the National Football League. But Miami
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and Texas A and M will kick off at nine
am tomorrow, or as they say, down at Texas A
and M, nine A and M.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Thank you, thank you for laughing at that.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Really bad.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
It was really bad, but that's why it was really funny.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Crack and lose their tenth of eleven games in Calgary
last night.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Four to two was the final score.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
All right, enough, let's talk about these eighty eight topics
with Greg Bell.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Right now.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
With the bell tolls, it must be seven o'clock and
time for twelfth Man News with Greg Bell, brought to
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Speaker 2 (03:57):
How about that, Greg Bell?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
How about now, that's not your run of the middle
game you've covered in your career, right there?
Speaker 6 (04:06):
No good morning. I was coming up from the press
bocks late last night and Ethan mcreynold's younger reporter for
Box thirteen here in Seattle, he asked me where that
ranked of all the games I've covered as far as
just how crazy it was and expected at tourney and
them winning. And the first thing I could think of
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was the two thousand and January twenty fifteen NFC title
game when they were down sixteen to nothing, down sixteen points,
but that was in the third quarter against the Green
Bay Packers, and then I've gone to overtime and winning it.
There were a lot of parallels to that, but that
comeback began in the third quarter and it was sixteen
to nothing at the time. Of course, Russell Wilson to
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Jermaine Curse and overtime. They sent him to the Super
Bowl and it was the Patriots, and then the Patriots
Super Bowl down in Glendale, super Bowl forty nine. And
probably we'll put it this way. I probably wrote the
second because I write a running game story that I
have to file as soon as the game ends, and
my goal is to have it on the internet five
minutes after the final whistle. I did that again last night,
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running it right, so you run the right to the
game story as the game is happening. That was probably
the second worst game story in my career yesterday. The
first one was the Seahawks Patriots Super Bowl and how
crazy that ended it was last night was largely inexplicable.
But Chuck, I would I would submit to you that
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this is an example of what Mike McDonald's been building
for two seasons. The chasing edges, the intangibles, the one
hundred percent participation in voluntary OTAs back in the spring,
the brotherhood that they have. People say, why do you
write about them shadow boxing as it did in the
Riley Mills stories. The lead to my Bridley Mills story
last week because all that stuff in tangibles, the brotherhood,
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the tightness they're relying on each other, the belief, the connectedness,
that stuff matters. If they didn't it didn't matter, then
they wouldn't stand. I don't want to spend time chasing edges,
but those are the last night was a chasing edges gaming.
You need those things in your favor for a game.
I got to go your way. It just doesn't happen.
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There has to be some roote cause for them to
still have belief, for Sam Darnold to be pretty much unshakeable.
I had my binoculars on him after both interceptions. He
didn't change at all. They he did change down in
Inglewood in four interceptions last month, he slammed his helmet
on the top of the bench. Is the only time
I've seen really any emotion on the field with him
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at all. After his third interception, he slammed helmet on
the top of the bench. But that was it. And
last night the guys A Lucas and others were talking
about he did not change at all and they were
looking at him after that second inner exception down three
to fourteen and nine minutes left me. Through the interceptions
read and unflappable the same, and there's something validating to
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the team when their leader, the guy who has the
ball and everything making the decisions, looks unfazed by the
worst that just happened, and that mattered in the end
that Donald came back and brushed off of that if
he had not thrown two interceptions. So my point is,
the tangibles matter, and the edges do matter. That's why
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Mike McDonald chases them so much. I can't really explain
why else they would win that game last night other
than that.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
Yeah, there was a lot of things that they had
to chase to find a way to win that one,
and yet they did.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
And I'm with you.
Speaker 7 (07:47):
I think Sam Donald rising to the occasion in spite
of a couple of bad throws was probably one of
the more important things for this team moving forward, because
we know what we'd be talking about he'd done it
one more time, and you know, instead instead of converting
and getting that thing, getting the job done defensively, yeah,
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you end up winning. I think that the idea our
take on this show, or at least Chucks and I
agreed after the first meeting, was felt like the Seahawks
might outplay the Rams, and yet they didn't win. This
one felt like the Rams most certainly outplayed the Seahawks
at least for the first three and a half quarters
or so. I think it was nine minutes and thirty
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nine seconds left. Was after they had went up thirty
to fourteen. He throws that interception. I think pretty much
everybody was like, well, this was an embarrassing performance, and
yet they forced I think five punts the rest of
They missed the field going one, but they forced them
to punt I think four more times in the rest
of regulation.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
So what switched.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
It can't just be that they read something on a
board or were talked about chasing edge. Just something changed defensively.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
I asked Ernest Jones that very question. I said, well,
how did you get three three that outs in a
row against a team that ran up five hundred and
eighty one yards on you. The quarterback ran threw for
fourth seventy nine, Kuka and Akou went for two twenty
five receivements, the most in eight years against the Sex
Well changed in those three drives, because you're right, without
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those three drives, the game's over if the Rams go
down and score any points. At that point in the
fourth quarter, with nine minutes left, the sixteen point game
becomes a three score game. And I actually had to
side early in the fourth quarter when the Rams scored
to make it third or fourteen. If Sean McVay might
not go for two there to make it thirty one fourteen,
to make it a three score game. It went through
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my head. I bet it went through his. But they
were so dominant at that point he probably thought they
didn't need it. The three scored, sixteen point three score
game didn't matter, but it did. And Ernest Jones said
that they were miscommunicating on deep passes over the middle.
There was a grand canyon chasm between Ernest Jones and
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no linebacker in the safeties behind him. Actually, time and
again kept exploiting about a fifteen seventeen yard window from
the line of scrimmys down the middle of the field,
and I must have completed fifteen passes that way. Of course,
he completed twenty nine for the game. It was twenty
sever or twenty nine passes on the season on the night.
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But he said that there was miscommunication, which got worse
when Kobe Bryant went out injured early in the second half,
because then Tyle Konda came in, so there was a
disconnect between the deeper coverage and the underneath intermediate zones
and they crushed it. And Jones said that they finally
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shored that up on the three straight. That it would
also help guys is that they started limiting Kyrien Williams.
It looked like he was onto it was way to
one hundred and fifty yard night in the first half
rushing the ball, and when they limited him, third down
became third and eight and nine again instead of third
and two. And then he talked in the locker room
after the game, including Ernest Jones and a couple of
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the defensive linemen, talked about now Stafford had to hold
onto the ball longer, as Jones said, he had to
wait for his receivers to run longer routes in the
first half when it was third and two and third
and one all the time, because they were getting nine
yards on first and second down. Then he couldn't get
to the quarterback because the ball was getting up so quickly.
But if Kuka Naku was running a ten yard route
on third nine, that's a lot different than a three
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yard route on third two. And then they started affecting
Stafford a little bit, and he saw some more inaccurate
throws in the fourth quarter, stopping Williams and their plays
on the first down really contributed to getting off the field.
So there was two because third and two was killing him.
As Mike McDonald said, you can't spot rush the quarterback
on third and two, and that's exactly what their probme was.
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Most again, a couple numbers there, A couple numbers that
one excuse me, just want to point out before last night,
in the last fifty years in the NFL, if an
offense had four hundred plus yards, didn't turn the ball over,
didn't take a sack, and their defense had three takeaways.
The Rams did all that. Since nineteen seventy five, teams
were seventy nine to zero in the league. Last night
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was the another seventy nine and one. Now that's the
first time in fifty years an offense did what the
Rams did, a defense did what the Rams did, and
they lost. Wow. The second thing was Dehawks going into
the fourth quarter last night, when they trailed by sixteen
or more points in the fourth quarter in their fifty
year history, do you know how many times that happened?
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One hundred and fifty five times going into last night?
Last night was one hundred and fifty six times the
Seahawks had trailed by sixteen or more points in the
fourth quarter. Do you guys know how many times until
last night the Seahawks had won those games? Zero? Zero.
Last night was the first time in fifty years history
of Seahawks football that they won a game trailing by
sixteen and more points in the fourth quarter. That's how
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preposterous last night was.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
It was awesome.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Greg bel Is with US Seahawks Insider from the News
Tribune as complete coverge of last night's game in the
Seahawks all season long available at the Newstribune dot com.
We have to ask you about the two point tries,
three of them, all three of them successful, the forgotten
one to Cooper Cup, then the most interesting two point
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conversion in football history that will be talked about, I'm
sure for years to come. And then the game winner
two Sowberds. And you're going around talking about the two
point tries.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
What did you come away.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
With Seahawks themselves McDonald donald, nobody knew that that was
a backward pass. That was the one that tied it
thirty to thirty. That was supposed to be a forward pass.
It was a bubble screen outside and Jared Verst, the
rams eddresher, jumped up and knocked it down. But when
did Donald threw it just behind parallel? The rule is
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if it's backwards at all, it's a fumble, but if
it's parallel or forward, it's a forward pass. So it
was rolled parallel to the line of scrimmage. But if
you really broke it down. And Amazon Prime, because they
owned the world and they print money, they had these
great television cameras that the angle was perfect. It was
right along the four or five yard line to show
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that he threw it from his hand was about the
four and a half and the ball was deflected by
verse it about the four. The crazy thing about that
play is nobody thought it was well they fumble and
every one thought it was in The officials ruled that.
So the ball was just laying in the end zone idly.
I mean, it was just there like a nerf ball
in someone's backyard. They left there from last weekend's play,
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and Sharbonage just walked over to pick it up as
if he was doing the official favor given it to him.
He wasn't letting us recover it. Think about this. What
if that ball had not spun. What if the grains
of the artificial turf were not in such a way,
the wetness of having rained for six weeks here in
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Seattle did not make the turf in such a way
to make that ball spin into inside the goal line.
What if it had just spun and he landed on
the one and a half or half inchside and then
Sharboney picked it up because he just walked after he
picked it up. He just walked along the goal line.
What if he was on the half yard line. Yeah,
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that wouldn't have been That wouldn't have been too. That's
how ridiculous that play was. That was just fate that
the ball happened to spin at that exact location and
Sharbony just happened to pick it up like he found
a penny on the street. If he had picked it
up outside the goal line, then none of that would.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Have happened, right.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
Crazy. Other part of that is they were lined up
to kick a to the kick off. Everybody was on
the field, And that's what McVeigh had an issue with.
After the game, he said, wait a minute, how could
you how could New York be allowed to stop the
whole thing, the process and everything. When the officials and
everybody had already moved on, we'd moved on. We were
lined up to kick off and Matthew Stafford after the
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game said, wait a minute. I thought, you can't advance
a fumble and you get the old holy roller role
from Dave Casper in the seventies with the Raiders in
the last two minutes, And well, it wasn't last two
minutes for Matthew Stafford's case. And nobody advanced that fumble.
No one played it forward. It wasn't It wasn't considered
a forward fumble. It was considered a backward path, if
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that makes sense. So nobody possessed it enough to make
it a forward fumble, if does make sense. I think
that was what the ruling was. But yes, that is,
but that's not exactly why replay was instituted in the
NFL to correct. But if you go by the clear
and obvious mistake standard, it was right because the officials
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said it was incomplete and that's a two point play.
And by the way, it was not challenged by McDonald.
He had no idea. All two point plays, all scoring
plays in the NFL are automatically reviewed, which is how
that whole thing came up in first place. Man, there's
something else I want to mention about. Let's talk about
Salbert's two point play. When they lined up, they had
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three wide receivers to the right, including the tight end
AJ Barner. They were overloading the right side, and then
sure enough Sam johnod was looking that way, the boy
Eric Salbert was tight at left end. After the game,
McDonald's said that Salbert's the fourth read. On that I
would argue he probably is the fifth read because the
fourth was Sharbon a leaking out of the backfield. If
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he didn't have anyone to block, I'm pretty sure Charbone
would have been the option above Salbert. Salbert is a
nine year career blocking tight end special teams as who
was on his eight team in nine years, whom the
Seahawks cut a month ago and brought back to give
him a new contract. The way his contract was structured,
he wasn't going to be available to the team next year.
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They were a new signing. It was there were some
things beyond the fact it was just a one year contract.
There was some technicalities there on why they cut him
and brought him back to get him a new deal
for the rest of this year and next year. But
the fight, the bottom line is they cut him and
then brought him back. He's like the third or fourth
string tight end even though he's really second or third
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on depth truck because of his blocking. But his job
was to block, and he did. He blocked, He blocky,
blocky blocked that almost blind gave Darnold enough time to
look through five guys with the game on the line,
and the Rams chose not the Blitzer pressure but to
cover because they thought, we can cover this end zone
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better than we can the whole field. Let's put seven
men in coverage in this three yard and five yard
zone into the end zone. But they never saw Soburn.
If you look at the replay of that play, nobody
covered him because he blocked and blocked for so long
that they thought he was a blocker and they we're
not going to devote to cover guy him. Yeah, that
was crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Almost looked like he almost looked like guilty, Like you
just slipped in there, like hey, I'm kind of wide
open here.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Well it's like it's like it was like I have
nothing else to do. I've blocked that blocked, I don't
feel like blocking anymore. Let's go see what the colim
looks like. That's what it looked like. And he said, yeah,
I was a little surprised the play was going on
long enough where my blocking job was done. Not if
you go pass catch. How many times does the Seahawk
pass bloker have enough time to just decide, Okay, my
(19:11):
job's done here. I'm going to go catch a pass.
That's happened like twice and ten years in Seattle. The
other thing I mentioned about Ernest Jones made sure we
all knew, including the national television audience and us in
the locker room after the game. They were talking about
it in the locker room a lot that the Rams
are laughing at him on the field when it was
thirty to fourteen when those left, Yeah, I mean flat
(19:33):
as Deernis Jones said, laughing. Man today, it was disrespectful.
It disrespected us or districted our defense. It disrespected the game.
There was too much time left. Yes, he's play for him,
he said. I'm not gonna name names. He's smart enough
because he's thinking they may play him a third time
in the playoffs, he said, But they know I wrote
(19:54):
a whole story about it in the news Tributes at
the News Tribune dot com right now. But they could
very well play the Ram for the NFC title. Yeah,
appear in Seattle and they will remember this. Bram's laughing
at them at thirty to fourteen of nine minutes left.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, now I want it. It's Ollie Frazier. They've got
to fight a third time, so let's do it.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
All right. Well, awesome stuff. Thank you very much, sir.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
We appreciate it, and we will certainly be checking in
with you next week.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
Yeah. Happy. We let me say this as much and
as what they accomplished last night if they don't beat
the Panthers and forty nine ers down the road anyway.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
That's Uie's league is every weekend.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
All right?
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Speaker 8 (21:05):
Guys, I was crazy, yeah, I think just overall, you
guys are gonna think I'm weird for saying this, but
we you know, I didn't think we played our best football.
I certainly didn't play my best football. We got a
lot of work to do there, but at the end
of the day, we won. And you know that the
team in that locker room, all the guys in that
(21:26):
locker room, you know, we worked so hard for moments
like this. Obviously, you know, like I said, we got
a lot of work to do and we're gonna continue
to push and get better. But those guys in the
locker room deserve a win like that.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Sam Darnold, he got it done. I know I threw
two interceptions, but he got it done. In the end,
Seahawks went at thirty eight, thirty seven and overtime over
the Los Angeles Rams. If you didn't see it, you
didn't see it. Laughing at you because you really missed it.
You're a sports fan and you missed that because that
(22:00):
game was mind blowing for four straight hours. It was
mind blowing. And the Seahawks end up with the victory
last night. And there's a lot of conversation about Sam
Donald there was going into this game. A lot of
people just kind of want to draw right the conclusion
about this guy. And that's I think that's the part
that I don't understand, is that so many people are
(22:22):
just ready to conclude that Sam Donald just can't win
a big game. Sam Donald got off to a really
rough start in his NFL career. He was a very
young player coming into the league. He didn't exactly get
put in the right situation. I mean, who has succeeded
with the New York Jets. Aaron Rodgers is going to
be a first ballot Hall of Famer and in the
(22:43):
conversation for greatest quarterbacks to ever live, and he sucked
as a Jet, Yeah, you know, and so I mean,
maybe maybe there's something to that organization. And then he
bounced around a little while, and then whatever he picked
up in San Francisco applied it to when he got
to Minnesota. And then whatever he picked up in Minnesota,
(23:03):
he seems to have applied it here in Seattle. As
he said, the offense isn't a finished product. He's not
a finished product. He still have a really young man
by quarterback standards. But so many people are just racing
to the end of his career to write what a
disappointment he is, even after two consecutive years of success.
I mean, he's winning like ninety percent of his games
(23:24):
the last couple of years. And so he did not
play a great game last night, and he made another
couple of costly turnovers in this contest, and for a
while there it did look like it was going to
go south. But man, I think you know he as
Greg pointed out, Bucky, he just continued to kind of
look unfazed. I'm not going to change the way I play,
(23:47):
even though it's not going my way right now. And
he threw a couple of gems, one to Cup and
there were great catches too.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
And one to JSN on the sideline.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
And then to have that composure to go through your
progressions on the game winning two point conversion, where if
you don't convert this, you lose the football game, and
to go through five different progressions and then just slip
one into Sawbert there for the game winner. I'll think
a little bit of a redemption story for Sam Donald
considering all the conversation around him.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:18):
Well, I mean it's the saying of you, you don't
get a second chance to make a first impression. There's
truth to that, and yet it's not really true because
you people will label you something based on how what
their first impression of you is. And he got labeled
as a bust bust, you know, and it's like, okay,
well is that legitimate. Well, yeah, you played like a bust,
but for the Jets you were a bus Yeah, but
(24:40):
they spent a third overall pick on you.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah, there's that happens to a lot of people.
Speaker 7 (24:45):
I think football even more than the definitely more than baseball.
Baseball is such a weird team sport, but it's all
individually performance based, right. Nobody helps you hit, nobody helps
you field the ball, nobody helps you throw it where
you throw it. Football so much more team oriented that
you kind of your how good your career is is
(25:06):
is largely based on who you're surrounded by, who's coaching you,
what kind of scheme you're in. I mean, how much
pressure is put on you I mean, there's just so
much that goes into it. And he was like, you said,
young coming out of college, really young coming out of college,
and and failed, failed, and so then he had to
go through the route of Okay, you got knocked down
multiple pegs, but you still get to hold of clipboard,
you still get to learn, you still get to practice,
(25:27):
you get to run the scout team. And he did
that for a couple of teams, and then last year
went out and led the Vikings to a great season.
And yet because of his first impression, when he failed
in the last regular season game against Detroit and then
failed against the Rams, it was right back to, well,
you're gonna you earned a collor somebody is gonna give
you a contract, but are you really worth it?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
It's like team games, franchise.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
I won, you know, majority of my first parts of
the game, and would they won fourteen games last year,
and yet I failed in our regular season finale, which
was a big game. There was a lot of seeding
implications on that thing. And yet and then failed in
the playoffs, and yet you're like, Okay, Hughes kind of
mentioned like there's not very many quarterbacks that would get
harassed the way that the Rams did to him in
(26:16):
that playoff game. Would he get sacked nine times in
that game and have a successful game. And so then
you couple that with he rattles off a bunch of
wins and then throws four interceptions against the Rams, and
it's like, well, you can't. You're not going to be
any good. You just that's you. Big games, you fail.
Last night he was having moments where he made mistakes,
some of them good defensive schemes.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
You got to tip your cap.
Speaker 7 (26:37):
That defensive lineman drop him back into coverage was a
straight bait and trick type move, and he fell for it.
You would hope that he doesn't, but he did. That's
gonna happen from time to time. But the fact that
he didn't waiver and he just still made the throws
that he had to make down the wire, that to
me is the sign of a leader that you want
running your organization.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Yeah, and it seems like he is has been that
person from day one, because he wouldn't still in the NFL.
If he wasn't that person, you know, he would he
would have left, probably after not doing well with the Panthers.
I mean, just one bad team. After another, and here
he is still succeeding despite having some struggles here and there.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
So sometimes the light just goes on a little later,
and you don't know whose message gets through to you.
And obviously whatever happened in San Francisco, and I can't
believe that Rock Purdy is the guy that he credits
for so much of his turnaround. Rock Perty's younger than
him and was the last pick in the draft, for
goodness sake, and he's backing him up in San Francisco,
but he always references him. And obviously O'Connell knows what
(27:37):
he's doing with quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
And then you add.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
That layer here in Seattle, with whatever Mike McDonald has
infused in him. Confidence wise, Sam really does let it
rip and it's led to more interceptions that we're comfortable with.
He's got to get better. There's certainly a short list
of guys in the National Football League I trade Sam
Donald for tomorrow. He's not proven himself as a champion yet.
(28:03):
But I tell you what, I'm glad he's our quarterback.
And I think last night was a growth period. He
didn't play a great game last night. Might even argue
he didn't even play a good game, but he certainly
came through when he had to come through, and I'm
glad he's our quarterback and I think the best of
Sam Darnold is still ahead of him. We'll talk more
about that with Hugh Millen coming up at eight o'clock today,
(28:26):
Coach Holmgren at nine o'clock. Mike McDonald audio coming up next,
and of course you can't have Mike McDonald audio without
first hearing your Mick delivery of the game.
Speaker 9 (28:37):
Now, Matt Cornado left side fires off the inside of
the net and I scored just inside of the top
corner web.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Side on the corn in and out the.
Speaker 9 (28:51):
Flames from down two to one, go up three two.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
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Speaker 2 (29:31):
Words years ago in his music career.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Ain't no valley high enough, ain't no valley low enough
us from getting where we want to go.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
That's the truth. Actually that was just a Mike McDonald cover.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
He never wrote those words.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Oh ah, but nonetheless I wanted to cover it. They've
never sounded truer than they do after that game last night,
look at that.
Speaker 7 (29:53):
Yeah, well up to that point, there had been valleys
that were low enough to not get to you, or
with a win.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Not to get to the number one seed.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
Not yesterday, Yes, like that valley's not low like.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
This mountain ain't high enough.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
That was the original wording.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Was anal mountain high enough, anal valley low enough to
keep us from getting the one seed?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
That makes sense?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Yeah, I mean the NFC was I think the second part,
like the second course, it's winning the NFC.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Yeah, yeah, it's in the lyrics, some of the forgotten lyrics.
You used to paint them on the shower wall. With
you know, so fingernail paint. Oh yeah, yeah, everybody knows
that's how that's his inspiration. Mike McDonald after yesterday's thirty
eight thirty seven incredible overtime win over the Los Angeles Rams.
Humelin's going to join us to the top of the hour,
(30:43):
Mike homeran at nine o'clock, So two hours of breaking
it down with two of the best in the business.
So we'll get to that in a moment. Coach McDonald
also was benefited by going three for three on two
point tries last night, including the game winner, and I
guess he felt it necessary to explain why he went.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
For two at the end of the game.
Speaker 10 (31:07):
Followed something we had talked about really throughout the season
and then really particularly for this game because of the
playoff situation. You know, you play for the tie and
you know, make the lock up of playoffs seed. But
I just felt like I just felt great about our
play and I trusted our guys and to clintch credit
to he was really confident, and then the players ultimately
(31:28):
make it happen. So once we got that drive going,
it was pretty clear on what we're going to see.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
The number one seed in the playoffs, not just make
the playoffs. I mean, I don't even think it was decision.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I mean, I.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Get that maybe getting the tie, but you were going
to give them the ball back and time on the clock.
I mean, to me, that was not even a decision.
I mean, what good does a tie get you to
winning the NFC West. You had to have a win
last night because you would have still been losing the
tie breaker to the Rams. So I'm surprised to even
(31:59):
gave it that much thought. I thought that was as
obvious as the sun rises that they were going to
go for.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Two right there.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
When they ended up talking about it on the broadcast,
I wonder what they'll do, and then they said, well
they would. You would think they would have to go
for it, simply because at this point they were oh
and one and an O one and one against them.
Doesn't you're not gonna you don't win that tie breaker.
So to me, it seemed like a no brainer. But
at the same time, boy, there's a lot on the
(32:25):
line there, right, I mean, you do your chances of
getting the ball back, because what there was there three
minutes left, three minutes and change.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
You're not getting the ball back. Are you're giving them
as their chance probably do well. You could possibly, but yeah,
chances are no.
Speaker 7 (32:38):
I mean, if you if you get another three and out,
you could then you know, you could have played for
the tie in three and out, get a decent punt
return and complete one pass and kick yourself a sixty
yard field goal. We've seen it happen before. I mean,
three minutes is a lot longer in today's game than
it is. But I just didn't think. To me, it
was it was a no brainer. You just go for
the jugger. You're a home you got all the momentum,
the fact, I mean, the fact that the Rams head.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
They're clearly awesome at two point conversions. Yeah, even when
you fail, you succeed.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
That's yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, the stars were aligned. I
think it was a no brainer to go for it,
and obviously it worked out big win.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Thirty eight thirty seven man Hugh Millin is chewing through
the walls at his home to get on the air
and talk about this. I guarantee it, So we're not
going to wait much longer. He's next. It's chucking Box.
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