December 2, 2025 • 34 mins
Headlines and 12th Man News with GREGG BELL (Tacoma News Tribune) - We take a look at the rest of the NFC West and the NFL- do the Seahawks think they are the best team in the NFL? - How will Mike MacDonald handle the poor play of Anthony Bradford? - The Vikings took away JSN on Sunday, so what’s the game plan moving forward to not let that happen again? :30- It’s time to get into the Analytics of the Holidays because Coach Holmgren loves analytics so much! We start with the Christmas tree… :35- We’ve gotta get our picks right this week and hold onto the #1 spot- can Bucky help us out? :45- The penultimate CFP rankings come out tonight and there are some very interesting talking points heading into conference championship week.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Marcus Jones backteep to receive this punt from Jamie Gillen,
the veteran left footed putter. He gets this one off.
It's a high booby kick. Jones assesses back pedals to
the seven on the near side. He gets it to
the ten out of the fifteen, sprints the twenty along
the numbers to the thirty outside of the forty, and
Gillan slows him down for a second.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
He breaks all the sidelights.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Thir twenty fifteen, ten all the way.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Touchdown Marcus Jones.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Somehow he stayed in bounds ninety three yards and the
Patriots expod a nine to nothing lead here in the
first quarter.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Westwood won on the call.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Monday Night Football Last nine New England Patriots went over
the New York Giants snow surprise there, thirty three to
fifteen in a mostly unwatchable game.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
As a matter of fact, I didn't watch it.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
So that's where we start with our frostbrewed course light headlines.
And I know that these days we're guaranteeing that we
are human. But I will tell you this little known.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Sacred about chucking back in the mornings.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
One of the three of us is not a human.
I'll leave that to your own speculation out there. I'm
not saying that where somebody's sub human, maybe they're superhuman,
but somebody here is not on the up and up.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
So sorry about your guarantee. iHeart you should checked in
with the Morning Show for such a bold statement.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Sorry, I was speaking so sorry.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
We didn't even have a meeting about it. Yeah, yeah,
wasn't on your phone.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Thank goodness, sir.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
There's some things happening in your business that you're not
aware of. Seahawks take on the Falcons on this Sunday.
We'll talk to Greg Bell about that in the moment.
College football playoff penultimate rankings come out tonight. Selection Sunday
is this Sunday following conference championship week. Rick new Isel
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five days away from Major League Baseball's Winter Meetings.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Hopefully we're gona.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Have some time talk about that for the end of
the show today, because I got some things to say.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
But right now we're gonna hear what Greg Bell has
to say.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
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Speaker 6 (02:50):
Is that there, Girl, Tree, Girl Tree, My daughter got
to oh, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 7 (02:57):
I have a daughters five to six. We gotta treat this.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
She was able to stand and put the star on Papa,
but she still needed a ladder to do it. Yeah,
because she was home from Connecticut Ghost Part Academy for Thanksgiving.
Speaker 7 (03:10):
We when got the tree on Friday. That's a look
at that family.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Look at that, look at that. Everybody, everybody on the
show has the tree up. And look, I'm not saying
you should have done it as early as what I did,
but I think maybe I influenced you to all put.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
It up a little earlier.
Speaker 8 (03:24):
Yeah before check, Yeah, Saint Patrick's Day day, after Saint
Patti's Day.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
That's when you take it down.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Oh yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
No, all right, well let's uh, let's get right into it.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
As the Seahawks coming off another nice impressive win. Certainly
we discussed a lot of things yesterday Seahawks related, but
there is a lot more left on the plate here
that we can now devour on this Tuesday, And.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
This might be the last last week.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I know, we don't want to jump the gun and
start breaking down the Falcons too much just yet, but
this might be the last of the you have to win,
not have to, but you should win this game pretty easily.
Weeks that the Seahawks are going to have, because the
schedule does get tougher after the Falcons on Sunday, it does.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
They have one of the tougher by winning percentage tougher
remaining schedules among all the playoff contending teams in the NFC,
and I mean Atlanta, they've lost their quarterback, Michael Pennix
Junior is injured. As soon as that happens, your season's
going south. That's almost always the case, and that you
(04:40):
can start there in the Seahawks again, this is now.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
Cam Ward is a rookie.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
Quarterback with a terrible offensive line for Tennessee. Then an
undrafted rookie from four years out of New Hampshire making
his first NFL start in Max Frosmer the other day,
and now they backup quarterback. I know it's cousins, and
I know it's the there's some veterans that the Falcons
(05:06):
have behind Penix, but it's not in their plans. But
Atlanta does have a defense in a pass rush, and
they have really remodeled their pass rush in the last
couple of years. That has been the one thing that
has hurt them the most, and they've gotten much better
getting to the quarterback. And we've seen what happens to
teams that get to.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
Sam Darnold, and that remains.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
The biggest problem for Seattle, no matter who they're playing,
and no matter who's the quarterback. The opposite of Donald
is him holding onto the ball. But yeah, to your point, Chuck,
they should win this game to be ten and three,
and they could be ten and three, and we still
don't know how good they are because they haven't beaten
the Rams and the forty nine ers. And I know
I'm signing a broken record in a little bit of
(05:48):
a rain cloud, but them's the facts. They're trying to
win the NFC West and the two teams they have
to win have to beat to win the West, they
haven't beaten yet. But now they get them both and
they're gonna have to beat them both over the last
six weeks. They've got the Rams after so it goes Atlanta,
then they come home from back to back home games
in five days between the Colts, and then that rematch
(06:11):
with the Rams on December eighteenth, And it's easy to say, well,
that'll be for the division title, nah, because San Francisco
is nine and four. They're on there by this week
at the latest pay you could possibly have if they
keep winning, that's the game for the title in the
final week of the season, Week eighteen, and Santa Clara,
of course, the.
Speaker 7 (06:30):
Seahawks have to keep winning too.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
So yeah, Atlanta, the Colts and Rams at home, and
all of a suddenly that Week seventeen game at Carolina,
that's a trick. We saw what the Panthers just did
in Charlotte to the Rams. Suddenly Carolina is seven and
six and they may be contending for a playoff spot
on that Week seventeen game before the Seahawks go to
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Santa Clara.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Gee.
Speaker 8 (06:54):
The I mean, this season is different where no one
has really just kind of taken it. Or again, different
teams have taken the moniker of the best team in
the NFL, or they look like it inevitably like the
Rams this week, then they end up getting beat and
all of a sudden they're knocked off their pedestal. I mean,
the Seahawks have been in that conversation a couple different times.
(07:14):
The Eagles were in that conversation, and so it's really
a lot of teams that are kind of you know,
four games over five hundred and yet I'm guessing that
this team feels like they're the best team in the NFL.
I mean I think that it's there still is work
to be done, but they kind of control their own destiny.
(07:34):
Go out there and take care of business, play the
way that you've shown you're capable, and let the chips
fall where they may once you get into the dance.
But would you say that, do you think that right
now that the Seahawks think they're the best team in
the NFL.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
They know they statistically they're second third and most of
the metrics, but they know they have perhaps the best
defense in the NFL. And if you have that, you
can win anywhere. Defense travel, defense plays through any whether
you've heard all the cliches about defense, that's how Mike
McDonald has built his team.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
And that is the OBVI it's strength here.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
So they they feel like they have the best defense,
They feel like they have the best defensive line, they
feel like they have the best secondary, which still isn't
healthy yet. We don't know if Julian Love is going
to come back to practice like he's eligible too this week.
He was eligible to last week and his hamstring wasn't ready.
And then they have Ernest Jones at linebacker and you
saw what he just did in the game against Minnesota.
(08:30):
Let's look at the teams in the NFC and you
tell me, can the Seahawks.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
Claim that they are the best or not one of
the best.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
The Bears, yeah, they're nine and through. They're the number
one seed right now. In the heart of hearts, I
know Caleb Williams having a great season. Ben Johnson has
transformed that offense and gotten Williams to not turn the
ball over and they're running the ball like.
Speaker 7 (08:52):
Anybody best in the league right now.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
But if you really cornered somebody in the Seahawks soccer
room saying, if you had to go to Chicago with
the Super Bowl on the line for the NFC title,
how would you feel about that? They'd say, we'll take that.
The Rams are, like Bucky just said, they were the
Cats me out until they went to Charlotte the Eagles.
(09:14):
You would think the way the Eagles looked against the
Bears and the way the fans in Philadelphia were treating
them that they're like four and eight, they're eight and four,
but they're falling. And then the Buccaneers that the Seahawks field.
They absolutely gave away the game two. They're the four
seed right now, and in fact, the Seahawks would play
the Buccaneers if they don't win the division. The way
that the current standings are five verses four. Then it's
(09:34):
the Packers and the forty nine ers. So on those
lists they're all flawed in some ways. But yeah, to
answer Bucky's question, I think they have a legitimate say
of we can do this because of that defense, the
way the defense plays, and if it can't play in
the way it is, they can withstand a lot. I
don't know against the Rams and the forty nine ers
(09:54):
if they can withstand Darnel turning the ball over, but
they can withstand.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
A lot our sarks inside of Greg Bell is whether
you can follow him at gmail, Seattle on x and
of course the News Tribune dot com for complete Seahawks
coverage every single day. This game was lopsided, but it
was also the game where Sam Donald, without question faced
the most pass rush pressure of this entire season. So
(10:19):
what's the latest on Jalen Sundell and despite Mike McDonald's
endorsement of Anthony Bradford's play as he at risk at
right guard of finally being removed from that starting spot.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Well, it's interesting because Sundell, if you remember, during training camp,
was one of the three competitors for the right guard job.
It was Christian Haines that who actually started training camp
as the starter, and then it was Anthony Bradford and
they had Sundell the undrected looking for twenty twenty four,
who did some guard work in practices last year. Sundell
(10:53):
ended up proving to be so good at center that
he beat out Ol Timmy and took that job. Well
now that he's been on ir O with Timmy as
it and if you take McDonald as his word, he
really likes how Ola Timmy's played in the two games
three games since Sundell went out with a knee injury,
which makes the question, now do you keep some over
(11:14):
with Timmy where he's been good. Sundell is eligible to
come off of injured reserve this time next week. The
fourth consecutive game he'll miss is the Atlanta game this weekend,
and I asked yesterday McDonald of Sundell how he's progressing
toward potentially practicing next week. He says he's doing really well.
And I said, is he going to come back to
(11:35):
be a guard or a center? And he said, we're
still working through what the lineup is going to look
like when he comes back, which is a really telling
statement to me. I think they're thinking about putting him
at guards and having Sundell play right guard next to
Oval with Timmy to not disturb what Olial with Timmy's
done in the center of the offensive line. So competition
(11:55):
on the horizon perhaps for Anthony Bradford. Now, as you
said yesterday, McDonald said that he thought Bradford played a
pretty good game. He said there were some good plays
and some not some good plays. But when he was
asked about fans especially criticizing Bradford for standing around look
like he's waiting on a bus and some pass protection snaps,
he said, I think he's played pretty well, So we'll see.
(12:21):
But there is going to be competition somewhere because Sandel's
not going to come back and sit. He's either going
to play center, he's going to play guard. At what
I saw in training camp, Guys, I think the best
line right now, I think Sandell's a better center than
old Timmy. But if they're good with Olow with Timmy
at center, I think their best line would be old
Timmey at center and Sindel.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
At right guard.
Speaker 8 (12:43):
I couldn't disagree with that in the slightest Bradford is
just not he does not play well, and I don't
want to call the dude out, but it just is
not very good. Another guy that didn't have a good
game but is great as Jackson Smith and Jig. But
I mean, any concern about the rest of the NFL,
especially the NFC, the big games that they're going to
(13:03):
have coming up down the stretch here that they found
a game plan. The way in which the Vikings did
stuff was different, but it still is a four and
eight team. Know you you end up scoring twenty six points,
so it wasn't like you didn't figure out a way
to get it done. But they took away one thing
that has been you know, nobody else has been able
to do. So is there game plan associated with that?
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Yes, and that is a concern.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
And they only had one offensive touchdown and came a
nine minutes left in the game. Otherwise they were turned
away every time and had to kick four field goals
against the four and eighteen. Now McDonald is saying that, well,
Baron Flores is unique and he does things and nobody
else in the league does.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
Some people try to.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
Do it, but they just don't do it scheme wise.
The blitzing, the fake blitzing, but you can bet for
sure that Atlanta this week, the Colts next week, the
Rams after that, the Panthers after that, and the forty
nine ers are going to take this Minnesota game tape
and say, let's do this. And McDonald made the point
again yesterday as well to say, well, he even said
(14:06):
at one point, I don't really respect teams that just
try to lift game plans and become somebody else just
because they saw somebody else do it in the copycat league.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
That may be true, but Atlanta.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Has changed their pass rush.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
As I set off the top.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
We've seen what the Rams have done at the line
of scrimmage on the defensive line against the Seahawks for years,
although it wasn't nearly as impactful and Englewood in the
last game, donald still threw four interceptions against them. So
Clint Kubiak this week is absolutely going back to some
drawing board things going. Wait a minute, we went into
(14:41):
the game allowing just eleven sacks and eleven games a
fuse in the NFL, and my guy was on the
ground four times in the first half.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
How that happens. So they've got to figure that out.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
They've got to figure out if they are blitzing, do
we roll Donald away from the pressure, which they didn't
do much of. They kept him in the pocket and
they also tried to have him throw quickly after the
pressure started getting to him, and then he started throwing
it into guy's hands. I think it was six batted
down passes. And I asked McDonald about that specifically yesterday.
(15:13):
I said, can you scheme out of that? Or is
that execution and play and cutting down guys in the
legs and low blocks? And he said a little bit
of both, but basically.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
There's some scheme that we need to change.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
And he didn't say it, but what it tells me is,
I bet they're going to sprint him out away from
pressure and try to get Donald outside the tackles. See
if they can't run away from some of the batted
passes in the inside blitzes. Cooper Cup mentioned that after
the game. I think we talked about it yesterday, but
Cooper Cup really outlined how they need schematically to be better,
(15:47):
and he thinks it's running outside.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
In bootleg type action away.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
From the pressure. He also said receivers better get used
to running three yard routes and taking quick dig routes.
Instead of longer breaking routes that Smith and jigbit for
the first two months of the season.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Awesome stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Thank you, Greg. We appreciate it. To enjoy that tree.
Maybe the entire Bell family hold hands today, circle around it.
Maybe you sing some carols to the tree tonight.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
Oh man, that's a Penis gang man.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Yeah, that's nice.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
That's a nice memory.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I can see you, like the Schroeder type over there,
playing your little piano while everybody else just jamming.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Thank you, sir. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
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At seven thirty five, it's Bucky's Buckie's an ultimate pick
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about five minutes from now. But on Mondays we have
Mike Holmgren. I don't know if you've heard of him,
Mike holmgrenn. He comes on our show every Monday and
Friday and on Mondays. They are pretty much two prominent themes.
(17:47):
Number one, he complains about analytics when we talk about
the Seahawks.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
And number two, he complains about me when we talk
about Christmas.
Speaker 8 (17:55):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, pretty much nailed it. Yeah, so you
cut your hair, complain about that?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, one last thing.
Speaker 8 (18:02):
Yeah, I've given him one less thing the right direction, Charles.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Oh, that was a mess, wasn't it. Anyway?
Speaker 3 (18:10):
So what we're gonna do here today is combined the two,
and this is for coach Holm Girl, and this is
really going to make things very difficult for him because
now I'm combining holiday analytics to try to figure out
whether or not we've been making mistakes or not and
if we need to change and adjust the way that
we do things because now we have analytics to back
this up.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Oh great, Yeah, I'm not looking forward to it.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Let's start with the Christmas tree, since this has been
the big topic of conversation, the Christmas tree. I put
mine up on July fifth. Ashley put hers up the
day after Thanksgiving. Bucky put his up with his family yesterday. Okay,
so we're all We're all up.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yep, we're up. We're up and running.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Apparently, the first day of Advent is the customary day
to put up your Christmas tree. Now that changes every year,
so this year it would have been Sunday, November thirtieth.
It's the fourth Sunday before Christmas. It gives you full
four weeks to enjoy your Christmas tree. It might have
(19:19):
something to do with the health of a real Christmas
tree too. I have no idea, but that's the customary
first day of Advent is when you're supposed to put
up your Christmas tree now. According to analytics though, because
they're you know, figuring out joy and then they're figuring
out you.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Know, pleasures.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Yeah, Franken Senson merg get mixed into there. So, according
to analytics, the best time to put up your Christmas
tree is on November first.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Oh, those analytics are wrong.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Do you believe the analytics?
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Bucky? No?
Speaker 8 (19:54):
No, false again, you cannot be into that noon November noon?
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Yes, No.
Speaker 8 (20:01):
I think that whatever it takes, the traditional rule of
the fourth day Advent, whatever, I think that's right around
where it should be. And typically if you want to
get a little extra joy out of you, and if
you look into the analytics and you're like, I need more.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Joy, then the day.
Speaker 8 (20:20):
After Thanksgiving you're getting a little bit of a jump
on that. Unless it just so happens that that happens
to be well, that would never be the day after
Thanksgiving because Thursdays Thanksgiving on Thursday.
Speaker 9 (20:31):
I will say this though, because it's interesting bringing all
these you know, extra equations into the overall analytics. We
have to do that right, And that's where it gets
tricky because once you start factoring, I think the joy
has to be weighed higher. Right, because the joy is
probably the most important part of the season. So if
you're weighing the joy, then you're far too late.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Using the advent.
Speaker 9 (20:57):
May and some you are not science see or some
sort of calendar.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, and I used to be a traditionalist.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I used to be a lot like Bucky and then,
but I've given myself into analytics a little bit. Now
I'm like the Dan Campbell of Christmas trees.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I've noticed that go for it.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Yeah, I just go for it, even when it's I'll
put up my Christmas tree, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
From my own four yard line, fourth down and twelve.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Also, it'll cost you one of these times.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
Good.
Speaker 8 (21:23):
Yeah, it'll come back to cost you a Christmas Tree championship.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
But a real Christmas tree it would cost me because
it'd already be stinking.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
It's just December.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
I do have a real one, and it smells wonderful.
You guys have real ones.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
I do not.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Okay, another thing failed analytics.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I used to but I was the only one in
my house.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
So good, so good. I went stretched by mine this morning.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Oh, bad news is we're out of time to do
another one. The good news is now I can use
these for the entire week. We can do our holiday analytics.
At least we got through the tree. Let's play some
factor fiction right now.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
We're set to go. Glad you're with us.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
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Speaker 3 (22:27):
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Speaker 8 (23:00):
I'm sticking with the old trusty way, even though it
backfired on me last week.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
The old trusty way that backfire, yea trust that sometimes
fails me.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Like Dan Campbell Christmas.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
It fails every once in a while.
Speaker 9 (23:13):
Why what'd you say, the old trusty way that fails
me sometimes like the Dan Campbell Christmas.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
Oh yes, yes, yes, that'll fail you. This one rarely does.
Find a good team playing a bad team, Go ahead
and take it, even though there's a big spread. The
Tampa Bay Buccaneers host the Crap Saints. They are not good,
that is official. They're gonna have to give them points.
But it's it's at home division games. Sometimes those are
played tough. For the last time these two teams played
(23:39):
the Saints, Saints and Buccaneers, it was at their place
and they won by twenty. Okay, I'm gonna go ahead
and take the Buccaneers. I'll lay the eight points. They're
at home. The Aints are coming in and they ain't
gonna cover the spread.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
And they're getting healthier. Tampa Bay, I mean they've been
going their duck back.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah, they've probably been the most broken team in the
National Football League this but they got Irving back, and
they got Godwin back, and I think they get Evans
back soon. So they're ramping back up. The beginning of
the year. They're playing as well as anybody. Yeah, So
all right, Bucky's gonna gohead and lay the points. I mean,
you got to. You gotta go out on your shield.
I mean, this is the last week of Factor Fiction.
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You need to just take two big heavy favorites. Just
what you gotta do.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Yep, I'm riding it to glory Land.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
You be you so Tampa Bay at home? Yes, yep,
giving eight and a half eight points? Oh just eight, yes,
just eight eight? Okay, eight points? All right, So still
it really doesn't matter. Buccaneers are gonna have to win
by nine points or more in order for Bucky to
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Coming up next here on the radio program, College Football
Playoff Rankings Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
It's our last time.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
To discuss this before selection Sunday, and so we'll break
down all the things that are interesting going into tonight
on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJARFM.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Jeans Terator will join us at eight o'clock our.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Weekly conversation with the former NFL official and current rules
analysts there at CBS tonight. College Football Playoff rankings the
last ones before selection Sunday, and so we have Conference
Championship Week taking place Friday and Saturday. All the information,
all the resumes will be complete, and so we will
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have the announcement on selection Sunday. And I tell you what,
this tournament thing, man, I've been waiting for my entire life,
and it really has come through for me. I realized
there were some blowouts last year, but I'm telling you
that was the first Sunday of NFL football in my
life where I felt it was a letdown compared to
what I watched the previous day, Like Saturday, I was
(27:01):
so much more pumped for Friday and Saturday of college
football than I ended up being for NFL Sunday.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
And it has everything to do.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
It didn't have anything to do with Washington versus Oregon,
I mean a little bit, but it had everything to
do for the most part, with how many teams had
something at stake more than just you know, trying to
get into the Weed Eater Bowl. You know, it was
trying to get into the tournament or getting eliminated from
the tournament. And it made for a wonderful final week
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of the regular season by my estimation, and it's going
to make for a heck of a conference championship weekend.
Speaker 8 (27:37):
Yeah, it's weird this week. Even though it's conference championship weekend.
It feels It feels odd to me because it's like,
as a Duck fan, like I'm happy that they're not
in it.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
They get to be healthy.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
There are I know they're going to be in the
College football playoff.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
You know, I did even get a bye.
Speaker 8 (27:53):
Yeah, it probably takes their chances away or diminishes their
chances of getting that one of the top four seeds,
but possible. And yet it's so it's kind of odd
to me where now a sudden conference championship, you almost
always feel like this is awesome. You got there, you
have a chance to win the conference and you know,
thrust yourself into the highest possible ranking that you could get.
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And yet there's a couple of teams I think that
are glad that they're outside of it because they already
feel maybe not a couple teams, but there's one team
in particular that I'm thinking of it. And yet there's
the other ones where there's a lot riding on, you know,
the SEC championship, for example, if Alabama losers, are they
going to be on the outside looking in. Obviously, tonight
will be interesting to see what the committee thinks of
(28:36):
that whole Miami Notre Dame situation. So yeah, there's a
It is more exciting because of the playoff because there's
more teams that I mean, it's not that long ago
that we were watching. If you lost one game, you
were like, well, I'm out of the playoffs I have
no chance to win ANS championship now, And thank god
that's not the case, although this year it feels like
if you lost three you might be out of it.
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Even though Texas should has an argument to be made.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
I think Chexa has a great argument for this, and
I think it's a little bit dangerous not to have
Texas in this because if you send the message that
Texas isn't in and I don't think they're going to
get in, then you send the message that don't ever
schedule tough non conference games, and I don't think that's
what we want as college football fans. But they have
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three losses because they played at Ohio State to start
the year, the number one ranked team in the country.
They went in and said we'll go ahead and take
that challenge on defending national champs on their turf where
they're better at home than they are on the road,
and it ended up really looking like it's going to
cost them because if they had just played you know,
(29:43):
Prairie View A and m they'd be ten and two
right now with a lot of very impressive wins and
one bad loss. They do have a bad loss, Let's
not overlook that to Florida.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
A couple of other.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Things as we are certainly in a process of trying
to figure out how this is going to get locked
in per eminently for the future, that are going to
be tested this year. In particular, Number one, I heard
Nick Saban and Kirk Herbstreet talking about on Game Day Saturday,
they think that your resume should end right now like that,
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if you earn your way into the conference championship games
and you lose, that shouldn't impact you whatsoever. So that
really highlights Alabama because Georgia could lose Alabama and they're
still going to get in. But if Alabama right now,
who are barely in, they're the tenth ranked teams, So
(30:36):
you know, once you add the ACC champion and then
you add the Group of five champion, Alabama's the last team.
So they are on the bubble and it's gonna be
hard for the committee with such you know, teams like
Miami and Vanderbilt and BYU and Texas all being very viable.
I mean, those resumes speak of tournament teams, and how
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are you not going to weigh in a three loss
Alabama that lost in the SEC championship game. I think
the committee is going to take that into a play.
I think Alabama has to win to get in on Saturday.
And yet herb Street and Saban are pretty big voices
in this world, and they both say that for the future,
it shouldn't impact your resume at all. You've earned the
(31:26):
right conference championship game, and teams that didn't earn that
right aren't putting anything on the line.
Speaker 8 (31:31):
Yeah. Yeah, there's some truth to that for sure. And
yet it's like, well, if you're not going to if
you're not going to take anything away from them, then
would the same argument be, then you can't give them
any credit for it, because what if you were still
on the outside looking in, right, I mean Bama for example,
I guess if as of right now they would be
(31:53):
in right, and so I guess maybe it would be
tough to get to a conference championship game, I suppose,
and then not if you didn't win it be on
the outside looking in Bamas, maybe the one team that
I think could probably do that this year.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
Right.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Ultimately, I think conference championship games are dinosaurs shivering in
the snow. I don't think they're going to outlast this
new wave of college for the tournament wave. I don't
think we're going to see them for much longer because
of issues like this. And then the last thing that
has to be pointed out is down there at the bottom.
I think there will be adjustments made. I don't see.
(32:29):
I mean, I have been the biggest proponent of the
group of five team Megan the tournament every year, but
a ten and two TWU lane that gets in over
you know, ten and two Miami.
Speaker 9 (32:44):
I love the drama though.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Yeah, but I think that I think there might be
a rule in the future. Savans brought this up as well,
that if you're going to be that group of five,
you're gonna have to be like a top sixteen, top
eighteen ranked team something like that. You're gonna have to
you have to do a little bit more to qualify
for that. And then this is the other little wrinkle
that people should be aware of, and that is the
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ACC champion is not guaranteed a spot. Duke has five
losses this year and are playing in the ACC Championship
game against Virginia. If Duke wins, and they're not ranked
ahead of the group of five team, whether that's James Madison,
North Texas or Tulane, then the committee can keep Duke out.
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You only have to guarantee spots for four conference champions.
So if Duke wins, I think there's an excellent chance
they don't get in at all.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I don't think they should get it.
Speaker 9 (33:45):
Oh, it's just got to be a representative from the ACC.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
No, no, no, you don't have to get represented at
that point if your conference champion doesn't qualify as one
of the four top ranked conference champions.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
So but I think you will get a representative. I
think it's the.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Excuse to put Miami in Overduke, even though they didn't
even make it to the conference championship game. So those
are some things to think about as we're heading into tonight,
and of course this weekend, there's a lot more drama
to unfold, certainly before we get to selection Sunday. Coming
up next, Great gene Sterator is going to join us
on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
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the veteran left footed putter. He gets this one off.
It's a high booby kick. Jones assesses back pedals to
the seven on the near side. He gets it to
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the numbers to the thirty outside of the forty, and
Gillan slows him down for a second.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
He breaks all the sidelights.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Thir twenty fifteen, ten all the way.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Touchdown Marcus Jones.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Somehow he stayed in bounds ninety three yards and the
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
Westwood won on the call.
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Monday Night Football Last nine New England Patriots went over
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Speaker 2 (00:49):
As a matter of fact, I didn't watch it.
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Speaker 2 (01:01):
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Speaker 2 (01:16):
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We didn't even have a meeting about it. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 3 (01:31):
There's some things happening in your business that you're not
aware of. Seahawks take on the Falcons on this Sunday.
We'll talk to Greg Bell about that in the moment.
College football playoff penultimate rankings come out tonight. Selection Sunday
is this Sunday following conference championship week. Rick new Isel
joins us at nine o'clock this morning to discuss that
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Speaker 2 (02:20):
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Speaker 3 (02:21):
Have some time talk about that for the end of
the show today, because I got some things to say.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
But right now we're gonna hear what Greg Bell has
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Speaker 5 (02:28):
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Speaker 6 (02:50):
Is that there, Girl, Tree, Girl Tree, My daughter got
to oh, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 7 (02:57):
I have a daughters five to six. We gotta treat this.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
She was able to stand and put the star on Papa,
but she still needed a ladder to do it. Yeah,
because she was home from Connecticut Ghost Part Academy for Thanksgiving.
Speaker 7 (03:10):
We when got the tree on Friday. That's a look
at that family.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Look at that, look at that. Everybody, everybody on the
show has the tree up. And look, I'm not saying
you should have done it as early as what I did,
but I think maybe I influenced you to all put.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
It up a little earlier.
Speaker 8 (03:24):
Yeah before check, Yeah, Saint Patrick's Day day, after Saint
Patti's Day.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
That's when you take it down.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Oh yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
No, all right, well let's uh, let's get right into it.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
As the Seahawks coming off another nice impressive win. Certainly
we discussed a lot of things yesterday Seahawks related, but
there is a lot more left on the plate here
that we can now devour on this Tuesday, And.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
This might be the last last week.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
I know, we don't want to jump the gun and
start breaking down the Falcons too much just yet, but
this might be the last of the you have to win,
not have to, but you should win this game pretty easily.
Weeks that the Seahawks are going to have, because the
schedule does get tougher after the Falcons on Sunday, it does.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
They have one of the tougher by winning percentage tougher
remaining schedules among all the playoff contending teams in the NFC,
and I mean Atlanta, they've lost their quarterback, Michael Pennix
Junior is injured. As soon as that happens, your season's
going south. That's almost always the case, and that you
(04:40):
can start there in the Seahawks again, this is now.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
Cam Ward is a rookie.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
Quarterback with a terrible offensive line for Tennessee. Then an
undrafted rookie from four years out of New Hampshire making
his first NFL start in Max Frosmer the other day,
and now they backup quarterback. I know it's cousins, and
I know it's the there's some veterans that the Falcons
(05:06):
have behind Penix, but it's not in their plans. But
Atlanta does have a defense in a pass rush, and
they have really remodeled their pass rush in the last
couple of years. That has been the one thing that
has hurt them the most, and they've gotten much better
getting to the quarterback. And we've seen what happens to
teams that get to.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
Sam Darnold, and that remains.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
The biggest problem for Seattle, no matter who they're playing,
and no matter who's the quarterback. The opposite of Donald
is him holding onto the ball. But yeah, to your point, Chuck,
they should win this game to be ten and three,
and they could be ten and three, and we still
don't know how good they are because they haven't beaten
the Rams and the forty nine ers. And I know
I'm signing a broken record in a little bit of
(05:48):
a rain cloud, but them's the facts. They're trying to
win the NFC West and the two teams they have
to win have to beat to win the West, they
haven't beaten yet. But now they get them both and
they're gonna have to beat them both over the last
six weeks. They've got the Rams after so it goes Atlanta,
then they come home from back to back home games
in five days between the Colts, and then that rematch
(06:11):
with the Rams on December eighteenth, And it's easy to say, well,
that'll be for the division title, nah, because San Francisco
is nine and four. They're on there by this week
at the latest pay you could possibly have if they
keep winning, that's the game for the title in the
final week of the season, Week eighteen, and Santa Clara,
of course, the.
Speaker 7 (06:30):
Seahawks have to keep winning too.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
So yeah, Atlanta, the Colts and Rams at home, and
all of a suddenly that Week seventeen game at Carolina,
that's a trick. We saw what the Panthers just did
in Charlotte to the Rams. Suddenly Carolina is seven and
six and they may be contending for a playoff spot
on that Week seventeen game before the Seahawks go to
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Santa Clara.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Gee.
Speaker 8 (06:54):
The I mean, this season is different where no one
has really just kind of taken it. Or again, different
teams have taken the moniker of the best team in
the NFL, or they look like it inevitably like the
Rams this week, then they end up getting beat and
all of a sudden they're knocked off their pedestal. I mean,
the Seahawks have been in that conversation a couple different times.
(07:14):
The Eagles were in that conversation, and so it's really
a lot of teams that are kind of you know,
four games over five hundred and yet I'm guessing that
this team feels like they're the best team in the NFL.
I mean I think that it's there still is work
to be done, but they kind of control their own destiny.
(07:34):
Go out there and take care of business, play the
way that you've shown you're capable, and let the chips
fall where they may once you get into the dance.
But would you say that, do you think that right
now that the Seahawks think they're the best team in
the NFL.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
They know they statistically they're second third and most of
the metrics, but they know they have perhaps the best
defense in the NFL. And if you have that, you
can win anywhere. Defense travel, defense plays through any whether
you've heard all the cliches about defense, that's how Mike
McDonald has built his team.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
And that is the OBVI it's strength here.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
So they they feel like they have the best defense,
They feel like they have the best defensive line, they
feel like they have the best secondary, which still isn't
healthy yet. We don't know if Julian Love is going
to come back to practice like he's eligible too this week.
He was eligible to last week and his hamstring wasn't ready.
And then they have Ernest Jones at linebacker and you
saw what he just did in the game against Minnesota.
(08:30):
Let's look at the teams in the NFC and you
tell me, can the Seahawks.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
Claim that they are the best or not one of
the best.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
The Bears, yeah, they're nine and through. They're the number
one seed right now. In the heart of hearts, I
know Caleb Williams having a great season. Ben Johnson has
transformed that offense and gotten Williams to not turn the
ball over and they're running the ball like.
Speaker 7 (08:52):
Anybody best in the league right now.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
But if you really cornered somebody in the Seahawks soccer
room saying, if you had to go to Chicago with
the Super Bowl on the line for the NFC title,
how would you feel about that? They'd say, we'll take that.
The Rams are, like Bucky just said, they were the
Cats me out until they went to Charlotte the Eagles.
(09:14):
You would think the way the Eagles looked against the
Bears and the way the fans in Philadelphia were treating
them that they're like four and eight, they're eight and four,
but they're falling. And then the Buccaneers that the Seahawks field.
They absolutely gave away the game two. They're the four
seed right now, and in fact, the Seahawks would play
the Buccaneers if they don't win the division. The way
that the current standings are five verses four. Then it's
(09:34):
the Packers and the forty nine ers. So on those
lists they're all flawed in some ways. But yeah, to
answer Bucky's question, I think they have a legitimate say
of we can do this because of that defense, the
way the defense plays, and if it can't play in
the way it is, they can withstand a lot. I
don't know against the Rams and the forty nine ers
(09:54):
if they can withstand Darnel turning the ball over, but
they can withstand.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
A lot our sarks inside of Greg Bell is whether
you can follow him at gmail, Seattle on x and
of course the News Tribune dot com for complete Seahawks
coverage every single day. This game was lopsided, but it
was also the game where Sam Donald, without question faced
the most pass rush pressure of this entire season. So
(10:19):
what's the latest on Jalen Sundell and despite Mike McDonald's
endorsement of Anthony Bradford's play as he at risk at
right guard of finally being removed from that starting spot.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Well, it's interesting because Sundell, if you remember, during training camp,
was one of the three competitors for the right guard job.
It was Christian Haines that who actually started training camp
as the starter, and then it was Anthony Bradford and
they had Sundell the undrected looking for twenty twenty four,
who did some guard work in practices last year. Sundell
(10:53):
ended up proving to be so good at center that
he beat out Ol Timmy and took that job. Well
now that he's been on ir O with Timmy as
it and if you take McDonald as his word, he
really likes how Ola Timmy's played in the two games
three games since Sundell went out with a knee injury,
which makes the question, now do you keep some over
(11:14):
with Timmy where he's been good. Sundell is eligible to
come off of injured reserve this time next week. The
fourth consecutive game he'll miss is the Atlanta game this weekend,
and I asked yesterday McDonald of Sundell how he's progressing
toward potentially practicing next week. He says he's doing really well.
And I said, is he going to come back to
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be a guard or a center? And he said, we're
still working through what the lineup is going to look
like when he comes back, which is a really telling
statement to me. I think they're thinking about putting him
at guards and having Sundell play right guard next to
Oval with Timmy to not disturb what Olial with Timmy's
done in the center of the offensive line. So competition
(11:55):
on the horizon perhaps for Anthony Bradford. Now, as you
said yesterday, McDonald said that he thought Bradford played a
pretty good game. He said there were some good plays
and some not some good plays. But when he was
asked about fans especially criticizing Bradford for standing around look
like he's waiting on a bus and some pass protection snaps,
he said, I think he's played pretty well, So we'll see.
(12:21):
But there is going to be competition somewhere because Sandel's
not going to come back and sit. He's either going
to play center, he's going to play guard. At what
I saw in training camp, Guys, I think the best
line right now, I think Sandell's a better center than
old Timmy. But if they're good with Olow with Timmy
at center, I think their best line would be old
Timmey at center and Sindel.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
At right guard.
Speaker 8 (12:43):
I couldn't disagree with that in the slightest Bradford is
just not he does not play well, and I don't
want to call the dude out, but it just is
not very good. Another guy that didn't have a good
game but is great as Jackson Smith and Jig. But
I mean, any concern about the rest of the NFL,
especially the NFC, the big games that they're going to
(13:03):
have coming up down the stretch here that they found
a game plan. The way in which the Vikings did
stuff was different, but it still is a four and
eight team. Know you you end up scoring twenty six points,
so it wasn't like you didn't figure out a way
to get it done. But they took away one thing
that has been you know, nobody else has been able
to do. So is there game plan associated with that?
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Yes, and that is a concern.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
And they only had one offensive touchdown and came a
nine minutes left in the game. Otherwise they were turned
away every time and had to kick four field goals
against the four and eighteen. Now McDonald is saying that, well,
Baron Flores is unique and he does things and nobody
else in the league does.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
Some people try to.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
Do it, but they just don't do it scheme wise.
The blitzing, the fake blitzing, but you can bet for
sure that Atlanta this week, the Colts next week, the
Rams after that, the Panthers after that, and the forty
nine ers are going to take this Minnesota game tape
and say, let's do this. And McDonald made the point
again yesterday as well to say, well, he even said
(14:06):
at one point, I don't really respect teams that just
try to lift game plans and become somebody else just
because they saw somebody else do it in the copycat league.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
That may be true, but Atlanta.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Has changed their pass rush.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
As I set off the top.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
We've seen what the Rams have done at the line
of scrimmage on the defensive line against the Seahawks for years,
although it wasn't nearly as impactful and Englewood in the
last game, donald still threw four interceptions against them. So
Clint Kubiak this week is absolutely going back to some
drawing board things going. Wait a minute, we went into
(14:41):
the game allowing just eleven sacks and eleven games a
fuse in the NFL, and my guy was on the
ground four times in the first half.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
How that happens. So they've got to figure that out.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
They've got to figure out if they are blitzing, do
we roll Donald away from the pressure, which they didn't
do much of. They kept him in the pocket and
they also tried to have him throw quickly after the
pressure started getting to him, and then he started throwing
it into guy's hands. I think it was six batted
down passes. And I asked McDonald about that specifically yesterday.
(15:13):
I said, can you scheme out of that? Or is
that execution and play and cutting down guys in the
legs and low blocks? And he said a little bit
of both, but basically.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
There's some scheme that we need to change.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
And he didn't say it, but what it tells me is,
I bet they're going to sprint him out away from
pressure and try to get Donald outside the tackles. See
if they can't run away from some of the batted
passes in the inside blitzes. Cooper Cup mentioned that after
the game. I think we talked about it yesterday, but
Cooper Cup really outlined how they need schematically to be better,
(15:47):
and he thinks it's running outside.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
In bootleg type action away.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
From the pressure. He also said receivers better get used
to running three yard routes and taking quick dig routes.
Instead of longer breaking routes that Smith and jigbit for
the first two months of the season.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Awesome stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Thank you, Greg. We appreciate it. To enjoy that tree.
Maybe the entire Bell family hold hands today, circle around it.
Maybe you sing some carols to the tree tonight.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
Oh man, that's a Penis gang man.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Yeah, that's nice.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
That's a nice memory.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I can see you, like the Schroeder type over there,
playing your little piano while everybody else just jamming.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Thank you, sir. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
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At seven thirty five, it's Bucky's Buckie's an ultimate pick
of the Factor Fiction season coming your way here in
about five minutes from now. But on Mondays we have
Mike Holmgren. I don't know if you've heard of him,
Mike holmgrenn. He comes on our show every Monday and
Friday and on Mondays. They are pretty much two prominent themes.
(17:47):
Number one, he complains about analytics when we talk about
the Seahawks.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
And number two, he complains about me when we talk
about Christmas.
Speaker 8 (17:55):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, pretty much nailed it. Yeah, so you
cut your hair, complain about that?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, one last thing.
Speaker 8 (18:02):
Yeah, I've given him one less thing the right direction, Charles.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Oh, that was a mess, wasn't it. Anyway?
Speaker 3 (18:10):
So what we're gonna do here today is combined the two,
and this is for coach Holm Girl, and this is
really going to make things very difficult for him because
now I'm combining holiday analytics to try to figure out
whether or not we've been making mistakes or not and
if we need to change and adjust the way that
we do things because now we have analytics to back
this up.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Oh great, Yeah, I'm not looking forward to it.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Let's start with the Christmas tree, since this has been
the big topic of conversation, the Christmas tree. I put
mine up on July fifth. Ashley put hers up the
day after Thanksgiving. Bucky put his up with his family yesterday. Okay,
so we're all We're all up.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yep, we're up. We're up and running.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Apparently, the first day of Advent is the customary day
to put up your Christmas tree. Now that changes every year,
so this year it would have been Sunday, November thirtieth.
It's the fourth Sunday before Christmas. It gives you full
four weeks to enjoy your Christmas tree. It might have
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something to do with the health of a real Christmas
tree too. I have no idea, but that's the customary
first day of Advent is when you're supposed to put
up your Christmas tree now. According to analytics though, because
they're you know, figuring out joy and then they're figuring
out you.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Know, pleasures.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Yeah, Franken Senson merg get mixed into there. So, according
to analytics, the best time to put up your Christmas
tree is on November first.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Oh, those analytics are wrong.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Do you believe the analytics?
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Bucky? No?
Speaker 8 (19:54):
No, false again, you cannot be into that noon November noon?
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Yes, No.
Speaker 8 (20:01):
I think that whatever it takes, the traditional rule of
the fourth day Advent, whatever, I think that's right around
where it should be. And typically if you want to
get a little extra joy out of you, and if
you look into the analytics and you're like, I need more.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Joy, then the day.
Speaker 8 (20:20):
After Thanksgiving you're getting a little bit of a jump
on that. Unless it just so happens that that happens
to be well, that would never be the day after
Thanksgiving because Thursdays Thanksgiving on Thursday.
Speaker 9 (20:31):
I will say this though, because it's interesting bringing all
these you know, extra equations into the overall analytics. We
have to do that right, And that's where it gets
tricky because once you start factoring, I think the joy
has to be weighed higher. Right, because the joy is
probably the most important part of the season. So if
you're weighing the joy, then you're far too late.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Using the advent.
Speaker 9 (20:57):
May and some you are not science see or some
sort of calendar.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, and I used to be a traditionalist.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I used to be a lot like Bucky and then,
but I've given myself into analytics a little bit. Now
I'm like the Dan Campbell of Christmas trees.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I've noticed that go for it.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Yeah, I just go for it, even when it's I'll
put up my Christmas tree, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
From my own four yard line, fourth down and twelve.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Also, it'll cost you one of these times.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
Good.
Speaker 8 (21:23):
Yeah, it'll come back to cost you a Christmas Tree championship.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
But a real Christmas tree it would cost me because
it'd already be stinking.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
It's just December.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
I do have a real one, and it smells wonderful.
You guys have real ones.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
I do not.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Okay, another thing failed analytics.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I used to but I was the only one in
my house.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
So good, so good. I went stretched by mine this morning.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Oh, bad news is we're out of time to do
another one. The good news is now I can use
these for the entire week. We can do our holiday analytics.
At least we got through the tree. Let's play some
factor fiction right now.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
We're set to go. Glad you're with us.
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So let's get it going. Bucky, what is your factor
fiction pick today?
Speaker 8 (23:00):
I'm sticking with the old trusty way, even though it
backfired on me last week.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
The old trusty way that backfire, yea trust that sometimes
fails me.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Like Dan Campbell Christmas.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
It fails every once in a while.
Speaker 9 (23:13):
Why what'd you say, the old trusty way that fails
me sometimes like the Dan Campbell Christmas.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
Oh yes, yes, yes, that'll fail you. This one rarely does.
Find a good team playing a bad team, Go ahead
and take it, even though there's a big spread. The
Tampa Bay Buccaneers host the Crap Saints. They are not good,
that is official. They're gonna have to give them points.
But it's it's at home division games. Sometimes those are
played tough. For the last time these two teams played
(23:39):
the Saints, Saints and Buccaneers, it was at their place
and they won by twenty. Okay, I'm gonna go ahead
and take the Buccaneers. I'll lay the eight points. They're
at home. The Aints are coming in and they ain't
gonna cover the spread.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
And they're getting healthier. Tampa Bay, I mean they've been
going their duck back.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah, they've probably been the most broken team in the
National Football League this but they got Irving back, and
they got Godwin back, and I think they get Evans
back soon. So they're ramping back up. The beginning of
the year. They're playing as well as anybody. Yeah, So
all right, Bucky's gonna gohead and lay the points. I mean,
you got to. You gotta go out on your shield.
I mean, this is the last week of Factor Fiction.
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You need to just take two big heavy favorites. Just
what you gotta do.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Yep, I'm riding it to glory Land.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
You be you so Tampa Bay at home? Yes, yep,
giving eight and a half eight points? Oh just eight, yes,
just eight eight? Okay, eight points? All right, So still
it really doesn't matter. Buccaneers are gonna have to win
by nine points or more in order for Bucky to
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Fact or fiction right now at four nine four five one.
Coming up next here on the radio program, College Football
Playoff Rankings Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
It's our last time.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
To discuss this before selection Sunday, and so we'll break
down all the things that are interesting going into tonight
on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJARFM.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Jeans Terator will join us at eight o'clock our.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Weekly conversation with the former NFL official and current rules
analysts there at CBS tonight. College Football Playoff rankings the
last ones before selection Sunday, and so we have Conference
Championship Week taking place Friday and Saturday. All the information,
all the resumes will be complete, and so we will
(26:39):
have the announcement on selection Sunday. And I tell you what,
this tournament thing, man, I've been waiting for my entire life,
and it really has come through for me. I realized
there were some blowouts last year, but I'm telling you
that was the first Sunday of NFL football in my
life where I felt it was a letdown compared to
what I watched the previous day, Like Saturday, I was
(27:01):
so much more pumped for Friday and Saturday of college
football than I ended up being for NFL Sunday.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
And it has everything to do.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
It didn't have anything to do with Washington versus Oregon,
I mean a little bit, but it had everything to
do for the most part, with how many teams had
something at stake more than just you know, trying to
get into the Weed Eater Bowl. You know, it was
trying to get into the tournament or getting eliminated from
the tournament. And it made for a wonderful final week
(27:31):
of the regular season by my estimation, and it's going
to make for a heck of a conference championship weekend.
Speaker 8 (27:37):
Yeah, it's weird this week. Even though it's conference championship weekend.
It feels It feels odd to me because it's like,
as a Duck fan, like I'm happy that they're not
in it.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
They get to be healthy.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
There are I know they're going to be in the
College football playoff.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
You know, I did even get a bye.
Speaker 8 (27:53):
Yeah, it probably takes their chances away or diminishes their
chances of getting that one of the top four seeds,
but possible. And yet it's so it's kind of odd
to me where now a sudden conference championship, you almost
always feel like this is awesome. You got there, you
have a chance to win the conference and you know,
thrust yourself into the highest possible ranking that you could get.
(28:15):
And yet there's a couple of teams I think that
are glad that they're outside of it because they already
feel maybe not a couple teams, but there's one team
in particular that I'm thinking of it. And yet there's
the other ones where there's a lot riding on, you know,
the SEC championship, for example, if Alabama losers, are they
going to be on the outside looking in. Obviously, tonight
will be interesting to see what the committee thinks of
(28:36):
that whole Miami Notre Dame situation. So yeah, there's a
It is more exciting because of the playoff because there's
more teams that I mean, it's not that long ago
that we were watching. If you lost one game, you
were like, well, I'm out of the playoffs I have
no chance to win ANS championship now, And thank god
that's not the case, although this year it feels like
if you lost three you might be out of it.
(28:57):
Even though Texas should has an argument to be made.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
I think Chexa has a great argument for this, and
I think it's a little bit dangerous not to have
Texas in this because if you send the message that
Texas isn't in and I don't think they're going to
get in, then you send the message that don't ever
schedule tough non conference games, and I don't think that's
what we want as college football fans. But they have
(29:20):
three losses because they played at Ohio State to start
the year, the number one ranked team in the country.
They went in and said we'll go ahead and take
that challenge on defending national champs on their turf where
they're better at home than they are on the road,
and it ended up really looking like it's going to
cost them because if they had just played you know,
(29:43):
Prairie View A and m they'd be ten and two
right now with a lot of very impressive wins and
one bad loss. They do have a bad loss, Let's
not overlook that to Florida.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
A couple of other.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Things as we are certainly in a process of trying
to figure out how this is going to get locked
in per eminently for the future, that are going to
be tested this year. In particular, Number one, I heard
Nick Saban and Kirk Herbstreet talking about on Game Day Saturday,
they think that your resume should end right now like that,
(30:16):
if you earn your way into the conference championship games
and you lose, that shouldn't impact you whatsoever. So that
really highlights Alabama because Georgia could lose Alabama and they're
still going to get in. But if Alabama right now,
who are barely in, they're the tenth ranked teams, So
(30:36):
you know, once you add the ACC champion and then
you add the Group of five champion, Alabama's the last team.
So they are on the bubble and it's gonna be
hard for the committee with such you know, teams like
Miami and Vanderbilt and BYU and Texas all being very viable.
I mean, those resumes speak of tournament teams, and how
(31:01):
are you not going to weigh in a three loss
Alabama that lost in the SEC championship game. I think
the committee is going to take that into a play.
I think Alabama has to win to get in on Saturday.
And yet herb Street and Saban are pretty big voices
in this world, and they both say that for the future,
it shouldn't impact your resume at all. You've earned the
(31:26):
right conference championship game, and teams that didn't earn that
right aren't putting anything on the line.
Speaker 8 (31:31):
Yeah. Yeah, there's some truth to that for sure. And
yet it's like, well, if you're not going to if
you're not going to take anything away from them, then
would the same argument be, then you can't give them
any credit for it, because what if you were still
on the outside looking in, right, I mean Bama for example,
I guess if as of right now they would be
(31:53):
in right, and so I guess maybe it would be
tough to get to a conference championship game, I suppose,
and then not if you didn't win it be on
the outside looking in Bamas, maybe the one team that
I think could probably do that this year.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
Right.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Ultimately, I think conference championship games are dinosaurs shivering in
the snow. I don't think they're going to outlast this
new wave of college for the tournament wave. I don't
think we're going to see them for much longer because
of issues like this. And then the last thing that
has to be pointed out is down there at the bottom.
I think there will be adjustments made. I don't see.
(32:29):
I mean, I have been the biggest proponent of the
group of five team Megan the tournament every year, but
a ten and two TWU lane that gets in over
you know, ten and two Miami.
Speaker 9 (32:44):
I love the drama though.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Yeah, but I think that I think there might be
a rule in the future. Savans brought this up as well,
that if you're going to be that group of five,
you're gonna have to be like a top sixteen, top
eighteen ranked team something like that. You're gonna have to
you have to do a little bit more to qualify
for that. And then this is the other little wrinkle
that people should be aware of, and that is the
(33:08):
ACC champion is not guaranteed a spot. Duke has five
losses this year and are playing in the ACC Championship
game against Virginia. If Duke wins, and they're not ranked
ahead of the group of five team, whether that's James Madison,
North Texas or Tulane, then the committee can keep Duke out.
(33:34):
You only have to guarantee spots for four conference champions.
So if Duke wins, I think there's an excellent chance
they don't get in at all.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I don't think they should get it.
Speaker 9 (33:45):
Oh, it's just got to be a representative from the ACC.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
No, no, no, you don't have to get represented at
that point if your conference champion doesn't qualify as one
of the four top ranked conference champions.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
So but I think you will get a representative. I
think it's the.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Excuse to put Miami in Overduke, even though they didn't
even make it to the conference championship game. So those
are some things to think about as we're heading into tonight,
and of course this weekend, there's a lot more drama
to unfold, certainly before we get to selection Sunday. Coming
up next, Great gene Sterator is going to join us
on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
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