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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The season in the balance. Golf fires at the one.
He didn't get across, but there are.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Flags down, pulling its up with the hayward.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
He goes to cross. Did they have a whistle first?
There's so many things on this level that I just
saw could be offensive pass interference. Actually, and then they
actually did score. When did the whistle get blown?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Too much for me? You go ahead, Jim. This is
like the two point play in Seattle the other night. Yeah,
exactly what's going on here?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Let's hear the call right here? What a major call?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Really on the fields? A festal, however, happen here?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Fait number fourteen on the offense.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
My rule that penalty is.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Not enforced and there is no replay. The game is over.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
No whoa OPI number fourteen the gates the penalty.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
There is no recall. O wow, welcome back to Sports
Radio ninety three point three KGRFM. I am Buck. There
is no Chuck. We still have Ashley and we got
Hugh Breed Love in for all four hours. So Merry
Christmas to you. You all have been good. Apparently that
highlight we just heard there was the end of the game.
(01:20):
The Steelers Lions game last night. Crazy the Goaters, as
the breed Love likes to call it. Yeah, probably probably
could have announced it a different way and think unless
he just wanted to get them excited, I mean kind
of a crazy. The whole PI offensive PI, defensive PI,
like they don't call a bunch of defensive pis, and
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then sometimes they call the tiki tak ones and then
the offensive pis don't happen a whole heck of a lot.
I had read somewhere last night. The Lions have two
times this season with an offensive pass interference in the
final like thirty seconds of a game that ended up
costing them, and that hasn't happened to any team in
the history of the NFL in a single season. I mean,
it is what it is. They ended up getting a
(02:03):
PI earlier in that drive that I was unforeced down
that they would have never gotten to that point hadn't
it been called. So you know, I typically don't say
one one call costs you the game. There's so many
things that happened over the course of sixty minutes, but
that one was nuts. Where the am on Saint Rob
goes out there basically runs right into Jayalen Ramsey kind
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of knocks him off balance, cuts back out. Then they
stop him basically at the one, and I would have
thought that they blow the whistle and it's forward progress stopped,
and yet they don't. He gets pushed back four yards
or whatever. Then laterals it and golf picks it up
and jumps in HND zone. Looks like the game winner
or a game tying. It would have been the game winner,
(02:47):
game winning touchdown, but we saw the flag even before
the You saw the flag come out for the offensive
pass interference before the latteral even happened. But yeah, then
the refs come out and announce it like it was
a touchdown on the felt the crowd goes wild, but
there was offensive pass interference, so the touchdown didn't count
and obviously offensive penalty to end the game. There is
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no next play like it would have been if it
was a defensive.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Well, it probably was offensive passing inference, but we've seen
we've seen more not get called uh in that regard,
and there was some flopping going on by Jayalen Ramsey
who was in the slot at the time. And then
and then on this on the game last night, there
was a pass interference that was not called defensive passing afference.
(03:33):
That was not called the receivers getting tackled. The ball's
halfway uh to its target and he's already getting tackled,
and they don't call that passing afference. So I just asked, you,
do you think that there there, their eyes are better
equipped to see that if they were chasing goats all week,
or if that was the twentieth game that they did
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because they worked, they were full time officials, and and
they did virtual reality at a game sped up by
twenty five or thirty percent, so that when they actually
got arrived on Sunday, well, I said, wow, this game
feels slow because they've trained their eyes to be faster,
just like you have in a batter's box, just like
(04:14):
Edgar Martinez has described with one hundred and fifty miles
an hour tennis balls coming at him and how that
helped him. See, I mean, it's just.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You're appreaciate of the choir, you're appreaching of the choir.
I'm not a giant fan, but then again, I think
anybody that plays sports typically has a like, there's a
negative feeling, even though I respect them and it's not
an easy job. I think they're just a negative feeling
because everybody that's played has gotten screwed over by an
official or a referee or an umpire or whatever it is.
And yet I would think the NFL, the biggest in
(04:46):
all of the land when it comes to sports, would
have full blown, full time officials that are doing all
kinds of training, like you've said before, virtual training where
they're sped up and you've got to try to do
it at a one point five that's going to make
you better. I've done the thing that you're talking about
with Eddie Martinez with one hundred and fifty million hour
tennis balls. You slow that thing back down to ninety
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five and it looks like a beach ball coming in there.
You can see every single seam on the ball because
your brain is a pretty amazing thing.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Virtual reality is done in the military, is done the
race car drivers, is done with pilots. I mean there
are simulators that are multi you know worth. We're tens
and tens of millions, probably over one hundred million now
of simulators for pilots like you have a chance you
could have every official other than the head referee. Every
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official should be under the age of thirty five because
your eyes go first, right, yep. And they should be
flat belly, in incredible physical shape. And they and if
they spent the entire week training their eyes to be fast,
they're not going to be perfect, but you could improve
their their efficiency probably triple the quadruple just by having
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them full time officials.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I'm with I'm with you. Well, you know what we
typically do headlines here to start this segment, We're gonna
go ahead and say that that suffices as headline because
now we're gonna get to the one and only Greg
Bell with a bell tolls.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
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Speaker 1 (06:34):
Ge Rag. How you doing. How was your weekend?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Good morning? It was it was quiet, it was family,
it was watching a game or two. It was unique.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
There was good.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
No flights back to Southeast Alaska that you had to
worry about.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
No, it was great.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
You go for a bike ride or a hike, or
you did something to benefit your body. I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Actually what did I do? I did some weightlifting and oh,
bike riding, yeah, I did a little bit of that.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
But well, good for you.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Are the kids back for Christmas?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah? They are? And that was great and that's what
made it really. We went and saw It's a Wonderful
Life yesterday is showing up on Capitol Hill at the
Northwest Film Festival.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Color and white, all the black and white.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Of course, the original it was.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
We do it.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
It's a family tradition here. We do it every Christmas.
We get all the bells and the friends that want
to come and family friends. And it's such a great film.
I mean, agreed, man, the reminder of what's really important.
I highly recommend for all the Christmas movies. People ask
me what Christmas movie you watch. It's a Wonderful Life
(07:42):
is a reaffirming Okay, this is what's all about.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
All the bells, all the whistles, everything.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
That's all I could think of when you says.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
So that's what I was thinking, too. Well, good, I'm glad.
I'm glad. The whole fan's back, and you're going to
get to enjoy Christmas. That's the way it's supposed to be. Well,
a early Christmas present, I suppose for the Seahawks was
the Thursday night game. And I don't know for sure
if anybody would have even asked Santa for a game
like that necessarily, but they find themselves in pole position
(08:11):
for the division, which seems like it's probably going to
be pole positioned for the number one seed at this point.
At this point, did they get to the rest of
the weekend off? And when do they get back to
work because there still is some work to be done.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, there is. They're back tomorrow. Let's today. They're back today,
but they won't be on the field today. McDonald gave
them Friday, Saturday, and Sunday off. It's the great advantage
of the Thursday game is the mini buyer comes on
the backside. They are going to do it differently this week.
They're gonna have their meet today, They'll have practice on
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Tuesday and Wednesday. Then they're gonna take Christmas Day off,
unusual for an NFL team for a Sunday game and
has Thursday off. BT of this Christmas and Mike McDonald
is a big believer in the family and being with family. Friday,
they'll come back to practice, then leave after practice to
go to Charlotte for the game against Carolina on Sunday.
That Carolina game is one of the bigger ones the
(09:08):
Panthers have had in a long time. After them beating
the Buccaneers yesterday, they're playing for the NFC South titled
It looks like that'll be the four seed whoever wins
the South, which is pertinent to the Seahawks because if
Seattle loses one of the next two games, in particular,
if they lose at San Francisco, they go back down
to the five seed. It appears if San Francisco and
(09:29):
the Rams keep winning, so as great as that Thursday
night game was, they're not done yet. The Seahorks have
worked to do here. The San Francisco game is setting
up as the NFC West title game if the Niners
can win tonight at Indianapolis and then beat Chicago next week,
which is of course no state of complete. The players
(09:50):
are playing really well the Packers the other night, But
if whoever doesn't win, the NFC West is going to
slide down the five and play the winner of the
NA South, So all of this stuff, the Panthers, the
forty nine ers, and they could all come back together
again in a couple of weeks. If the Sauks don't
win a division, they could be at Carolina to begin
(10:12):
the NFC Wildcard playoffs. So yeah, as great as that
win was, the Seahawks aren't done yet. They still got
work to do.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
What injury updates do we know from Thursday?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Well, Nicki o'lory hugh cleared percussion protocol at the stadium
and Mike McDonald's said that had the Rams got in
the ball back, they of course never going to because
they're going to go for two no matter what. But
even Whore he could have played the end of that
game if there was one more defensive series. But as
of the weekend, they were still tried to find out
how bad the knee injuries are for Reek Willing and
(10:43):
Kobe Bryant. It didn't sound well. After the game, McDonald
said it doesn't sound season ending for Kobe Bryant, but
left unsaid. So far is their availability for this weekend?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, well that's good news. Was there anything? Well, as
far as the tackle goes, Josh Jones filled in admirably.
I would imagine it was Cross his injury one that
people should worry about him possibly not being back this weekend.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Possibly the hamstring. We talked about this last week. Hamstrings
this time of year, it's an injury that you don't
want to get bring a guy back too soon for him,
because then you miss him for the rest of the year.
So I would think he would be one who doesn't
practice this week or much practice, and probably be a
questionable by the end of the week. But yeah, that
(11:32):
Charles Cross the injury of hamstring injury when now that
the sex have clinched the playoffs, they've got to think
longer term here on whether they want to bring him
back right away.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
All right, go ahead, Yeah, yeah, I'm curious how Mike
McDonald feels about the game. And in the following sense,
you could argue that if there's a matchup between Sean
McVeigh and Mike mcdonaldd, and there's been three of them,
(12:02):
because we're going to exclude the Week eighteen JV game
from a year ago, McDonald got the best of McVeigh
in last year's Loom and Field matchup. I mean there
were seven to three and ounced by the Rams. McDonald
got the best of McVeigh down in SOFI earlier, you know,
(12:24):
one hundred and thirty yards and the lowest total yards
output one hundred and thirty yards passing, and then the
total lowest total yard output in that game. But then
Thursday night, paradoxically, certainly McVeigh got the best of McDonald
when you consider the you know, close to six hundred
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yards and what have you. Does McDonald have any comments
about any adjustments that he plans or does he take
any kind of Do you make any comments like whoa,
I got my ass handed to me? I know McVeigh
said that about Belichick and the Super Bowl that they
lost the Rams lost a few years back. Any fallout
(13:07):
to the defensive kind of collapse that was there for
much of the game.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yes, well, both McDonald and Ernest Jones said that the
problem was and I asked both of them why five
under eighty one yards? They said the main problem was
miscommunication between the third and the second levels in pass
defense and the pass rush not getting home like it
had been. He McDonald went into the game thinking he
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could do what he did to the Rams last month,
and most of the rest of the league is get
his front four to affect the quarterback enough where he
could cover with seven, and they didn't do it. The
Rams mostly blocked the front four to give Stafford time
for deep breaking in routes. How many times did we
see Pooka Naku in his two hundred and twenty five
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yards catch the ball over the middle behind Ernest Jones,
the mid a linebacker in front of the safeties and
corner and it was that area to feel that. Jones
and McDonald said they had some miscommunications Tiler again, So
I asked, what changed when you had the three consecutive
three and outs in the fourth quarter? The defense subtly
had an uprising after giving up six hundred yards, and
(14:16):
they said it was messing and getting that miscommunication done
and the quarterback having to get off the snot the
other thing, get off the ball quickly. The other thing
Letter Williams pointed out was we stopped Kyrien Williams in
the fourth quarter so that the third downs were longer,
so that the pass routes were longer. And as Mike
McDonald said, you can't straight rush the quarterback on third
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and two. It just you can't do it. He gets
the ball out too quickly, but on third and nine,
Stafford had the hold the ball. They were a lot
more third and eight and third nines in the fourth
quarter because of their stopping Kyraen Williams, who ended up
only with seventy one yards Williams seventy one yards are
rushing Williams, it looked like he was gonna start the
game getting two hundred yards on the ground the way
he was breaking off eight to nine yard runs on
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first down. So the shortest third downs caused Dafford at
the wait longer in the pass ust cut to them
more effectively, and thus the passes weren't nearly as accurate
and the over the middle gets short up. But you
can bet the Panthers this week with the Bryce Young
the Niners. Next week, Kyle Shannon is gonna have Brock
pretty probing the middle deep middle of the Seahawks secondary
(15:25):
behind the linebackers, and the question will be whether the
Seahawks can get to the quarterback and affect him before
they can wait on those longer breaking in routs.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Gee, I mean, looking at this point in the season,
I mean this is not I think you start talking
about sample sizes, you kind of know who everybody is
everybody's shown their cards to some degree, and yet across
the NFL will stick to the NFC in general. But
across the NFL, it doesn't seem like there's any clear cut,
you know. I mean, we've seen in recent years where
Kansas City Chiefs look like the undoubtable team to beat,
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or this season, I think the Rams have been in
that the Seahawks have been in that conversation no One
seed at this point in time. Are they the most
feared team in the NFC or is there someone matchup
wise that they should worry about?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Should that the seahawkcstion worry about. I think the sea
oction worry big about the forty nine ers. They've still
lost seven of the last eight, and they should also
worry about the Rams. And there's a good chance, especially
if they both keep winning, that their Rams and Seahawks
could be the NFC title game. We'll find out the
next couple weeks whether that game would be in Seattle
or LA. But the Rams just put five and one
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up on them, and the seas have lost seven and
last eight games of the forty nine ers, so including
this week. This year, at the beginning of the season,
so until for the notice, they've still been conquered by
the forty nine ers, and they're going to have to
beat San Francisco in Week eighteen to win the division
and get the one seed. It appears unless the Niners
and Panthers both just fall on their face, and the
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Niners and Rams, the should say both just fall on
their faces the next two weeks. So that's my point
at the top. They are now of the Woods, yet
they're not even out of the division yet, And if
they don't win the next two games, they're on the road,
and we've talked about what the path would be three
straight road games and where they'd have to go through,
and so they in a sense would be giving back
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what they gained by losing to the by beating the
Rams the other night if they lose one of the
next two games. Kyle Shanahan and San Francisco on the
line of scrimmage in particular, have owned Seattle. Defensive and
offensive lines have just owned them for better part of
half six at least half a dozen years. Now. It
sounds like I'm just rain clouded this whole segment, But
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the point that the Seahawks have got to on Friday
was man that last night. That game was unbelievable and
we celebrated it, but we're not done. The way to
nature of this league is you knows is it's wow,
that was great? What's next? And I think this is
really beneficial to the Seahawks to have the weekend off.
There's a natural reset here to get over that game
(18:00):
and enjoy it. And now they have a natural reset
where they'll go life physically today and get going again
tomorrow and Wednesday toward the Panthers. But they would have
had a harder time both physically and mentally had this
been a normal five six days between games to go
to Carolina. They are really going to benefit from getting
(18:21):
it just decompressing this past weekend. And when I say
they were off, they were completely off. I mean it
was like gone fishing. Sign hung at the Seyorks headquarters.
Coaches were home with family, players were home. That is
going to really help them by the end of this week.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, I'm with you. It's going to be interesting to
see how they respond. Obviously after such an emotional win
on Thursday, and yet now you got the Panthers coming,
and I mean you got to take them seriously. They're
they're fighting for their division. And you know, this is
a team that's been swept by the Saints this season,
and yet just a couple of weeks ago beat the Rams,
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and so interesting to see the least how they're going
to come out against a team that some people might
think could be a trap gamer, a little bit of
a letdown game after what they had. But I appreciate
everything you did and we'll talk to you again tomorrow. Okay, Greg,
all right, Happy week, Calculater, Thanks you all right. That's
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general version is terrible, but I like to just pull
one out and see what happens. Yeah, well you did.
You pulled one out and it's made me on not
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gonna lie. I did get a little yawnie there. Anyways, everybody,
welcome back into the program. We are, I don't know,
not quite to the halfway point. Got through a lot
of stuff so far, most of it centering around this Seahawks.
We've talked a little bit of NFL stuff. We're gonna
have more of that to come. We've got Sando coming
up at eight o'clock and then coach Breedlove is stopping
(20:21):
in for a visit. The first time we've ever had
Love on. He has no idea what it even means yet,
but he will. He will soon find out. We're gonna
we're gonna dive into a bunch of different stuff. But
right here I kind of wanted to jump off kind
of where I left off with Greg talking about the Panthers.
The Panthers another team led by a former first overall
(20:41):
pick in Bryce Young. Now Bryce Young, I think probably
of Kay Williams, is pretty short sample size, right, It's
only in a second season. Lawrence has had moments where
you can see physically why he does, why he was
taken where he was taken, and yet for the most part,
it has a hard time stringing games or even seasons
(21:03):
together that make him look like he was legit. I
think a lot of people already threw the bust word out.
I think that's prematurely used by the way. I think
that there's a lot of people that say that too
darn quick. Bryce Miller hasn't really done a whole heck
of a lot, and yet now second year under Dave Knelisy,
he's looking better. They're still eight and seven, but they're
(21:24):
starting to get better when it matters most. They ended
up having a significant win yesterday against Tampa Bay, both
of them buying for that spot for the title down
there in the NFC. I am curious your opinion of
a team. This is a team, like I said last segment,
they just beat the La Rams two weeks ago, and
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yet they in between that they had a game where
they lost to the Saints for the second time, getting
swept by the Saints, And I don't know for sure
how you can feel about this team coming into it.
I know that humans are here. Humans and athletes are that,
and there is a tendency sometimes after a big game,
an emotional win, where you you look at the opponent
(22:08):
head and you're like, we, on paper, we should smoke
these guys, and yet that's not the way that it works.
It starts out zero zero. So any any fear of
that in your opinion?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Well, I think that the Seax have benefited this year
by having a number of games where they kind of
caught the the team at a favorable time. For example,
you didn't have to play the Colts in October when
they were just flying, you know, and ultimately, you know,
spent more than half of the year up until just
a couple of weeks ago as the highest scoring offense,
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and of course they had Daniel Jones healthy and they
were feeling good. You didn't have to play the Vikings
with a possibly resurgent JJ McCarthy. You didn't have to
play the Falcons with Michael Pennix. Like they've caught some breaks.
I think that this Sunday they're catching Carolina at a
(23:00):
a relatively favorable time for Caroline. I think they're gonna
feel really good about where they are. They've got the
underdog juice of here comes the number one seeded Seattle Seahawks.
They're trying to win a division. They think they can
knock off Tampa Bay again in Week eighteen. They just did.
(23:22):
They They're a young team that couldn't be feeling better
about themselves with as you said, Canalison, year two, Tech McMillan,
their number one receiver, first round draft pick, that was
the number one. I believe he's the number one receiver
taking in the draft. You know he's really coming on
Bryce Young. You know he's getting protected better, there's a
(23:45):
better feel for him. So I think that this is
gonna be a challenge emotionally, that's gonna be a real
There's gonna be a lot of energy in that stadium
trying to pull the Carolina over the finish line on this.
So yeah, I think it's gonna be tough. I think
it's tough. I think I think it is. Greg made
this point. I agree with it. I think Seattle benefits
(24:07):
because you play the Rams. You know you you you
gave everything. You emptied everything that was an overtime game,
emostly physically, you emptied everything, and I think you need
those three or four extra days to be able to
to uh gear up for what is in store for
(24:28):
you at Carolina, because psychologically it's just hard to duplicate
that in another week. Also knowing that you're playing the
forty nine ers the following week. So yeah, it's gonna
it's gonna be it's gonna test terminal.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Yeah, test. That's where you know good coaching comes in.
It's not uh, you know, we're gonna talk about it
in the Coach Breedlove segment in more depth, but the
idea of NFL coaches and all of the undertaking, all
of that goes into it, the schematics, but really it's
such a big roster and trying to get everybody rolling
in the same direction, and you can't have anybody, especially
(25:01):
not your big playmakers the nucleus of your team overlooking
an opponent. And yet, yeah, you're sandwich this this Carolina
game and you're playing an eight and seven Carolina team.
You look at them and you start watching film. I
think that the film on Carolina, they can look like
a team that's led by a former number one pick,
and you better watch out because they can go out
(25:23):
there and move the ball on you. They have some
defensive playmakers, but then you watch some other film on
them where they, like I said, they get swept by
the New Orleans Saints. They they're very they're they're not
very consistent. And yet so if you if you let
that sink into your head while you're prepping for this team,
and next thing, you know, you're still kind of riding
(25:43):
the high or you're still feeling your oats a little
bit about what you did against LA and you're looking
forward to the game against the Niners, which is gonna
have a lot riding on the table there, whether they
win tonight against India or not. It's just one of
those things where it's to make man, was like, there's
there's a recipe where this could work out not in
(26:03):
your favor. And then all of a sudden, to some degree,
it's a letdown considering what you did, how big the
game was on Thursday. You end up, you know, kicking
one here to some degree against Carolina Panthers, and you're
gonna you're gonna be feeling like, man, we really let
something get away.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Well, and you know, and then and then if you
have a letdown of uh in against the Niners. Yeah,
I mean you could really see things unraveling.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Now.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I'm not predicting that. I think the see the Seahawks
are you know, deserving to be just called, you know,
the top two or three teams, maybe even number one
team in the NFL. I'm buying all of that. I'm
not I'm not disparaging. That's remarkable what they've accomplished, and
it was a remarkable win Thursday. But it's it's I
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think we all have watched sports enough. You're you're an athlete,
you know the letdown from having played the Rams and
now and so you can't it's almost impossible to match
that that emotionally against the Panthers. And yet where are
the Panthers, right you just described it. They they they're
(27:11):
on the uptick emotionally. The Seahawks are on the down
tick emotionally, and so that means they have to be,
you know, all that much better. But they gotta they
got to combat it, and and and the leadership has
to challenge everybody to to put that aside. I mean,
you know, you don't. You don't want to wait till
you lose what you had to find out how much
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it means to you, oh and that that's that that
applies in a lot of things in life obviously, but
but you know, here they are the number one seed
that can you imagine that that flight home is like
we kicked all that opportunity because we didn't we didn't
mentally prepare for Carolina and give them their their due respect.
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So yeah, I think it's gonna be a challenge.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, I'm with you. And well, well we'll dive into
a little bit more into the Panthers as the show
goes on. But on the other side, I wanted to die.
I wanted to get into you know, I want to
talk to Hugh a little bit about a job opening
that is still out there and how that might affect
all of us around here. Sports stick around here at
Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Okay, I'm gonna
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way home. They give me goosebumps. I don't know how
much you listen to our show, but that is the goosebump.
I don't know. Factor is something that we talk about
on a regular basis. It's big games or just moments
on the show. They give me goosebumps. That is one
of them right there. That's it's some serious. That was
a good one right there. Third day, Okay, Spotify, I
(28:37):
know what I'll be listening to on the way home.
Good stuff right there. I wish we could just sit
and listen to it the whole time, but we do
have some stuff to get into and we don't have
a whole ton of time. We only got about five minutes.
And yet I think you're the perfect guy to ask
your connection there. Over the weekend, Kenny Dillingham, the Arizona
state head coach, signs a five year extension seven and
a half million a year to stay there. Now he's
(28:57):
begging some alum to write him a check for twenty
million dollars. See how that works out. Kaylin de Boor,
I think there was already conversation last week, and we
discussed it in our first segment that Kaylin de Boor Alabama,
that whole thing them winning. I would think kind of
cools the conversation of whether or not he would be
interested in going or is still in the running for it.
(29:19):
He's kind of made it sound like he's not interested.
Then again, you don't know for sure what that means,
because coach speak is coach. Jedfish has done his best
to say I'm focused on here, I like what I've
built here, or whatever, but he hasn't came out flat
out and said I'm not going anywhere, And so where
is how much is your radar going off with all
(29:42):
of the extenuated circumstances and the fact that Michigan a
place where he has been connected to before, he's been
there before, how much is your radar going off about
possibly Jedfish being interested in that?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Well, I have no doubt that he's interested. Jedfish is interested.
I think there's some issues with Jaden Delore and some
of the issues at Arizona that may prevent Michigan uh
from having enough interest that ultimately he would get the job.
But there is a report. When you consider the credibility
(30:15):
I think it is. It creates for news here. It's
newsworthy for University of Washington fans, in my opinion, And
I have and and these are the sources. You have
to know. A guy named uh Ben Dagra d O
g r A. He was what's termed a co head
of the Creative Art Agency with Tom Condon. And if
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you're an NFL fan, you probably heard of Tom Condon.
He represents Peyton. He represented Peyton Manning, Eli Mannings, Drew Brees,
Matthew Stafford, Matt Ryan, Alex Smith, Sam Brad Like. At
one point he was the highest guy guy. So they
they went in in ten together. Then uh and he
(30:58):
Dogra had our three, Adrian Peterson, Patrick Couilliams, Mario Williams,
a lot of people. You've heard. They brought in a
guy named Jimmy Sexton. If you're a college football net fan,
you know who Jimmy Sexton is. He has seven of
the top ten coaches. And so there was a point
where a portion of the fee that Jimmy Sexton was
(31:19):
getting was actually going to Ben Dagra. I mean, that's
the relationship. And Jimmy Sexton has Nick Saban, Kaylyn de Borg,
Steve starkejan Lanekiff, and James Franklin, Kirby Smart all right,
So so that that would be some of the credentials
that might lend to credibility. As something spoken from Ben Dagra.
(31:40):
This is from Newsweek magazine. Now Newsweek obviously has been
around a long time. You make your own assessments about
their credibility.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
You know.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
This is the online version. This is what Ben Dagger
was willing to go on record to say to Newsweek
about Jed Fish. He said, he said, I think the
guy that that they Michigan will hire is Jetfish. Excuse me,
and I'm just guessing. I don't know is j Jetfish
(32:11):
from Washington quote. I know for a fact that he's
been looking for another job. He wanted the floor Ada
job and did and did not get it. And he's
very very very interested in the Michigan job. End quote.
That's three varies. So I think that that is a
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news story. Well, I don't say a news story, but
it is a story if given again the credentials of
the man who said it. So I don't have any
doubt in my mind that Jetfish wants the Michigan job,
and if he was offered it, I think he would
take it. And so you know where does that leave Washingtonton.
(33:01):
We'll see, We'll see does Michigan offer him the job.
I mean, at some point, I don't know how far
down the list you go. USC went four down to
get Pete Carroll. He was a fourth choice. So at
some point they might say Jeff Fish, huh right, yeah,
and so that an event. What's your reaction to that,
(33:23):
if you if you if you heard that about Dan Lanning,
that that guy who was who has had business ties
with Jimmy Sexton, who is unquestionably the main power broker
of college coaches, and nobody can dispute that fact that
he would be willing to go on the record and
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say Dan Lanning is very, very very interested in the
Michigan job. And then you know, look, you're not going
to parse every word and hold people to every word.
But he says, I know for a fact that he
Fish is looking for another job.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Yeah, I don't think you. I mean, yeah, there's people
that stir stuff up, and it's unfortunate if you're a
coach that genuinely is like, I don't want to go anywhere,
and yet you're just your name is added to the
list because of your resume and because of where you've
been and all of that stuff. It's unfortunate, and yet
it's kind of part of the job. So you're going
to just have to deal with it. The fact that
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the cost to you, I don't well, the sniff test
to me, when everything I've heard Jedfish say has been
without a doubt stopping short of the line of I'm
not going anywhere. I mean, Dan Lanning has came out
and said, I don't want to go anywhere. I flat
out used to have, in my opinion, a kind of
(34:48):
set of steps that I wanted to go to. I
want to be a head coach, and then I wanted
to go to the NFL, and I wanted all this
different stuff. He basically just came out and said, Now,
that's not to say that I don't take that as
gospel written in stone, but it's more it's it's more
of a stern answer. I think that a lot of
people look to see if the grass is greener on
the other side of the fence, and the grass.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Is really dear and green here in Eugene. He said,
grass is really green in Eugene.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yeah, so that's not sane. There is nothing ever that
would take me from here. Well, so i'd even think
you can say that, but it's close. It's much closer
than I'm happy with what we got going on here.
I've put a lot of time and money into things
and tried to bring this program up, and yet he's
always stopped short of I'm not going anywhere, And understandably so,
because I don't think. I think that's when you get
(35:34):
in troubles when you tell your fan base I have
nowhere that I want to go, and then a week later,
or two weeks later or two hours later, you jump ship.
Now you've you just lied right to everybody's face. You
don't have to do that. I think the proper way
to do it is to give kind of short ended
questions that don't necessarily have a firm, definitive stopping point.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
My summary, Ashley would be, you know, first of all,
Dan Lamb, I mean, has made a stronger commedy. He goes,
he was on a national radio and he said, what's
the chance you're going to take the job?
Speaker 1 (36:05):
He goes zero.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
All right, so he Landing has been willing to make
those kind of pronouncements. But I guess what, None of
what he has said is binding whatsoever in any arena,
not an illegal arena, not contract, nothing, and so he
can say whatever he wants if he wants to take
another job. He said, well, you know that's what I was.
That's what I thought then when I said it, and
it's enough of that. And then he's on, you know
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Lane Kiffin, you know, hey, that's what I thought then
and now I'm the head coach at LSU. Jetfish is basically,
if he summarize, says, hey, I really like Washington. I
think we've got a bright future. That's it. But but
the idea that that, you know, here's a guy that
ostensibly is connected and he's and he's saying that, here's
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a guy that Fish is very, very very interested in
the Michigan job. That's a story for Washington fans.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
It's a story for Washington fans. I mean that quote
and the one right before it. I know for a
fact he's been looking for another job. I mean to
come on record and say that is that's not something
that people here in Seattle should can just overlook. Yeah,
so all right, we got to get to a break here.
We got Mike Sando on the other side of this,
so stick around here. Sports Radio ninety three point three
KJRFM
The season in the balance. Golf fires at the one.
He didn't get across, but there are.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Flags down, pulling its up with the hayward.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
He goes to cross. Did they have a whistle first?
There's so many things on this level that I just
saw could be offensive pass interference. Actually, and then they
actually did score. When did the whistle get blown?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Too much for me? You go ahead, Jim. This is
like the two point play in Seattle the other night. Yeah,
exactly what's going on here?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Let's hear the call right here? What a major call?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Really on the fields? A festal, however, happen here?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Fait number fourteen on the offense.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
My rule that penalty is.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Not enforced and there is no replay. The game is over.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
No whoa OPI number fourteen the gates the penalty.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
There is no recall. O wow, welcome back to Sports
Radio ninety three point three KGRFM. I am Buck. There
is no Chuck. We still have Ashley and we got
Hugh Breed Love in for all four hours. So Merry
Christmas to you. You all have been good. Apparently that
highlight we just heard there was the end of the game.
(01:20):
The Steelers Lions game last night. Crazy the Goaters, as
the breed Love likes to call it. Yeah, probably probably
could have announced it a different way and think unless
he just wanted to get them excited, I mean kind
of a crazy. The whole PI offensive PI, defensive PI,
like they don't call a bunch of defensive pis, and
(01:41):
then sometimes they call the tiki tak ones and then
the offensive pis don't happen a whole heck of a lot.
I had read somewhere last night. The Lions have two
times this season with an offensive pass interference in the
final like thirty seconds of a game that ended up
costing them, and that hasn't happened to any team in
the history of the NFL in a single season. I mean,
it is what it is. They ended up getting a
(02:03):
PI earlier in that drive that I was unforeced down
that they would have never gotten to that point hadn't
it been called. So you know, I typically don't say
one one call costs you the game. There's so many
things that happened over the course of sixty minutes, but
that one was nuts. Where the am on Saint Rob
goes out there basically runs right into Jayalen Ramsey kind
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of knocks him off balance, cuts back out. Then they
stop him basically at the one, and I would have
thought that they blow the whistle and it's forward progress stopped,
and yet they don't. He gets pushed back four yards
or whatever. Then laterals it and golf picks it up
and jumps in HND zone. Looks like the game winner
or a game tying. It would have been the game winner,
(02:47):
game winning touchdown, but we saw the flag even before
the You saw the flag come out for the offensive
pass interference before the latteral even happened. But yeah, then
the refs come out and announce it like it was
a touchdown on the felt the crowd goes wild, but
there was offensive pass interference, so the touchdown didn't count
and obviously offensive penalty to end the game. There is
(03:07):
no next play like it would have been if it
was a defensive.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Well, it probably was offensive passing inference, but we've seen
we've seen more not get called uh in that regard,
and there was some flopping going on by Jayalen Ramsey
who was in the slot at the time. And then
and then on this on the game last night, there
was a pass interference that was not called defensive passing afference.
(03:33):
That was not called the receivers getting tackled. The ball's
halfway uh to its target and he's already getting tackled,
and they don't call that passing afference. So I just asked, you,
do you think that there there, their eyes are better
equipped to see that if they were chasing goats all week,
or if that was the twentieth game that they did
(03:54):
because they worked, they were full time officials, and and
they did virtual reality at a game sped up by
twenty five or thirty percent, so that when they actually
got arrived on Sunday, well, I said, wow, this game
feels slow because they've trained their eyes to be faster,
just like you have in a batter's box, just like
(04:14):
Edgar Martinez has described with one hundred and fifty miles
an hour tennis balls coming at him and how that
helped him. See, I mean, it's just.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You're appreaciate of the choir, you're appreaching of the choir.
I'm not a giant fan, but then again, I think
anybody that plays sports typically has a like, there's a
negative feeling, even though I respect them and it's not
an easy job. I think they're just a negative feeling
because everybody that's played has gotten screwed over by an
official or a referee or an umpire or whatever it is.
And yet I would think the NFL, the biggest in
(04:46):
all of the land when it comes to sports, would
have full blown, full time officials that are doing all
kinds of training, like you've said before, virtual training where
they're sped up and you've got to try to do
it at a one point five that's going to make
you better. I've done the thing that you're talking about
with Eddie Martinez with one hundred and fifty million hour
tennis balls. You slow that thing back down to ninety
(05:07):
five and it looks like a beach ball coming in there.
You can see every single seam on the ball because
your brain is a pretty amazing thing.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Virtual reality is done in the military, is done the
race car drivers, is done with pilots. I mean there
are simulators that are multi you know worth. We're tens
and tens of millions, probably over one hundred million now
of simulators for pilots like you have a chance you
could have every official other than the head referee. Every
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official should be under the age of thirty five because
your eyes go first, right, yep. And they should be
flat belly, in incredible physical shape. And they and if
they spent the entire week training their eyes to be fast,
they're not going to be perfect, but you could improve
their their efficiency probably triple the quadruple just by having
(05:58):
them full time officials.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I'm with I'm with you. Well, you know what we
typically do headlines here to start this segment, We're gonna
go ahead and say that that suffices as headline because
now we're gonna get to the one and only Greg
Bell with a bell tolls.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
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and Butt.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Ge Rag. How you doing. How was your weekend?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Good morning? It was it was quiet, it was family,
it was watching a game or two. It was unique.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
There was good.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
No flights back to Southeast Alaska that you had to
worry about.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
No, it was great.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
You go for a bike ride or a hike, or
you did something to benefit your body. I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Actually what did I do? I did some weightlifting and oh,
bike riding, yeah, I did a little bit of that.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
But well, good for you.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Are the kids back for Christmas?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah? They are? And that was great and that's what
made it really. We went and saw It's a Wonderful
Life yesterday is showing up on Capitol Hill at the
Northwest Film Festival.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Color and white, all the black and white.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Of course, the original it was.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
We do it.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
It's a family tradition here. We do it every Christmas.
We get all the bells and the friends that want
to come and family friends. And it's such a great film.
I mean, agreed, man, the reminder of what's really important.
I highly recommend for all the Christmas movies. People ask
me what Christmas movie you watch. It's a Wonderful Life
(07:42):
is a reaffirming Okay, this is what's all about.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
All the bells, all the whistles, everything.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
That's all I could think of when you says.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
So that's what I was thinking, too. Well, good, I'm glad.
I'm glad. The whole fan's back, and you're going to
get to enjoy Christmas. That's the way it's supposed to be. Well,
a early Christmas present, I suppose for the Seahawks was
the Thursday night game. And I don't know for sure
if anybody would have even asked Santa for a game
like that necessarily, but they find themselves in pole position
(08:11):
for the division, which seems like it's probably going to
be pole positioned for the number one seed at this point.
At this point, did they get to the rest of
the weekend off? And when do they get back to
work because there still is some work to be done.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, there is. They're back tomorrow. Let's today. They're back today,
but they won't be on the field today. McDonald gave
them Friday, Saturday, and Sunday off. It's the great advantage
of the Thursday game is the mini buyer comes on
the backside. They are going to do it differently this week.
They're gonna have their meet today, They'll have practice on
(08:46):
Tuesday and Wednesday. Then they're gonna take Christmas Day off,
unusual for an NFL team for a Sunday game and
has Thursday off. BT of this Christmas and Mike McDonald
is a big believer in the family and being with family. Friday,
they'll come back to practice, then leave after practice to
go to Charlotte for the game against Carolina on Sunday.
That Carolina game is one of the bigger ones the
(09:08):
Panthers have had in a long time. After them beating
the Buccaneers yesterday, they're playing for the NFC South titled
It looks like that'll be the four seed whoever wins
the South, which is pertinent to the Seahawks because if
Seattle loses one of the next two games, in particular,
if they lose at San Francisco, they go back down
to the five seed. It appears if San Francisco and
(09:29):
the Rams keep winning, so as great as that Thursday
night game was, they're not done yet. The Seahorks have
worked to do here. The San Francisco game is setting
up as the NFC West title game if the Niners
can win tonight at Indianapolis and then beat Chicago next week,
which is of course no state of complete. The players
(09:50):
are playing really well the Packers the other night, But
if whoever doesn't win, the NFC West is going to
slide down the five and play the winner of the
NA South, So all of this stuff, the Panthers, the
forty nine ers, and they could all come back together
again in a couple of weeks. If the Sauks don't
win a division, they could be at Carolina to begin
(10:12):
the NFC Wildcard playoffs. So yeah, as great as that
win was, the Seahawks aren't done yet. They still got
work to do.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
What injury updates do we know from Thursday?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Well, Nicki o'lory hugh cleared percussion protocol at the stadium
and Mike McDonald's said that had the Rams got in
the ball back, they of course never going to because
they're going to go for two no matter what. But
even Whore he could have played the end of that
game if there was one more defensive series. But as
of the weekend, they were still tried to find out
how bad the knee injuries are for Reek Willing and
(10:43):
Kobe Bryant. It didn't sound well. After the game, McDonald
said it doesn't sound season ending for Kobe Bryant, but
left unsaid. So far is their availability for this weekend?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, well that's good news. Was there anything? Well, as
far as the tackle goes, Josh Jones filled in admirably.
I would imagine it was Cross his injury one that
people should worry about him possibly not being back this weekend.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Possibly the hamstring. We talked about this last week. Hamstrings
this time of year, it's an injury that you don't
want to get bring a guy back too soon for him,
because then you miss him for the rest of the year.
So I would think he would be one who doesn't
practice this week or much practice, and probably be a
questionable by the end of the week. But yeah, that
(11:32):
Charles Cross the injury of hamstring injury when now that
the sex have clinched the playoffs, they've got to think
longer term here on whether they want to bring him
back right away.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
All right, go ahead, Yeah, yeah, I'm curious how Mike
McDonald feels about the game. And in the following sense,
you could argue that if there's a matchup between Sean
McVeigh and Mike mcdonaldd, and there's been three of them,
(12:02):
because we're going to exclude the Week eighteen JV game
from a year ago, McDonald got the best of McVeigh
in last year's Loom and Field matchup. I mean there
were seven to three and ounced by the Rams. McDonald
got the best of McVeigh down in SOFI earlier, you know,
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one hundred and thirty yards and the lowest total yards
output one hundred and thirty yards passing, and then the
total lowest total yard output in that game. But then
Thursday night, paradoxically, certainly McVeigh got the best of McDonald
when you consider the you know, close to six hundred
(12:44):
yards and what have you. Does McDonald have any comments
about any adjustments that he plans or does he take
any kind of Do you make any comments like whoa,
I got my ass handed to me? I know McVeigh
said that about Belichick and the Super Bowl that they
lost the Rams lost a few years back. Any fallout
(13:07):
to the defensive kind of collapse that was there for
much of the game.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yes, well, both McDonald and Ernest Jones said that the
problem was and I asked both of them why five
under eighty one yards? They said the main problem was
miscommunication between the third and the second levels in pass
defense and the pass rush not getting home like it
had been. He McDonald went into the game thinking he
(13:33):
could do what he did to the Rams last month,
and most of the rest of the league is get
his front four to affect the quarterback enough where he
could cover with seven, and they didn't do it. The
Rams mostly blocked the front four to give Stafford time
for deep breaking in routes. How many times did we
see Pooka Naku in his two hundred and twenty five
(13:54):
yards catch the ball over the middle behind Ernest Jones,
the mid a linebacker in front of the safeties and
corner and it was that area to feel that. Jones
and McDonald said they had some miscommunications Tiler again, So
I asked, what changed when you had the three consecutive
three and outs in the fourth quarter? The defense subtly
had an uprising after giving up six hundred yards, and
(14:16):
they said it was messing and getting that miscommunication done
and the quarterback having to get off the snot the
other thing, get off the ball quickly. The other thing
Letter Williams pointed out was we stopped Kyrien Williams in
the fourth quarter so that the third downs were longer,
so that the pass routes were longer. And as Mike
McDonald said, you can't straight rush the quarterback on third
(14:38):
and two. It just you can't do it. He gets
the ball out too quickly, but on third and nine,
Stafford had the hold the ball. They were a lot
more third and eight and third nines in the fourth
quarter because of their stopping Kyraen Williams, who ended up
only with seventy one yards Williams seventy one yards are
rushing Williams, it looked like he was gonna start the
game getting two hundred yards on the ground the way
he was breaking off eight to nine yard runs on
(15:00):
first down. So the shortest third downs caused Dafford at
the wait longer in the pass ust cut to them
more effectively, and thus the passes weren't nearly as accurate
and the over the middle gets short up. But you
can bet the Panthers this week with the Bryce Young
the Niners. Next week, Kyle Shannon is gonna have Brock
pretty probing the middle deep middle of the Seahawks secondary
(15:25):
behind the linebackers, and the question will be whether the
Seahawks can get to the quarterback and affect him before
they can wait on those longer breaking in routs.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Gee, I mean, looking at this point in the season,
I mean this is not I think you start talking
about sample sizes, you kind of know who everybody is
everybody's shown their cards to some degree, and yet across
the NFL will stick to the NFC in general. But
across the NFL, it doesn't seem like there's any clear cut,
you know. I mean, we've seen in recent years where
Kansas City Chiefs look like the undoubtable team to beat,
(15:55):
or this season, I think the Rams have been in
that the Seahawks have been in that conversation no One
seed at this point in time. Are they the most
feared team in the NFC or is there someone matchup
wise that they should worry about?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Should that the seahawkcstion worry about. I think the sea
oction worry big about the forty nine ers. They've still
lost seven of the last eight, and they should also
worry about the Rams. And there's a good chance, especially
if they both keep winning, that their Rams and Seahawks
could be the NFC title game. We'll find out the
next couple weeks whether that game would be in Seattle
or LA. But the Rams just put five and one
(16:31):
up on them, and the seas have lost seven and
last eight games of the forty nine ers, so including
this week. This year, at the beginning of the season,
so until for the notice, they've still been conquered by
the forty nine ers, and they're going to have to
beat San Francisco in Week eighteen to win the division
and get the one seed. It appears unless the Niners
and Panthers both just fall on their face, and the
(16:52):
Niners and Rams, the should say both just fall on
their faces the next two weeks. So that's my point
at the top. They are now of the Woods, yet
they're not even out of the division yet, And if
they don't win the next two games, they're on the road,
and we've talked about what the path would be three
straight road games and where they'd have to go through,
and so they in a sense would be giving back
(17:15):
what they gained by losing to the by beating the
Rams the other night if they lose one of the
next two games. Kyle Shanahan and San Francisco on the
line of scrimmage in particular, have owned Seattle. Defensive and
offensive lines have just owned them for better part of
half six at least half a dozen years. Now. It
sounds like I'm just rain clouded this whole segment, But
(17:37):
the point that the Seahawks have got to on Friday
was man that last night. That game was unbelievable and
we celebrated it, but we're not done. The way to
nature of this league is you knows is it's wow,
that was great? What's next? And I think this is
really beneficial to the Seahawks to have the weekend off.
There's a natural reset here to get over that game
(18:00):
and enjoy it. And now they have a natural reset
where they'll go life physically today and get going again
tomorrow and Wednesday toward the Panthers. But they would have
had a harder time both physically and mentally had this
been a normal five six days between games to go
to Carolina. They are really going to benefit from getting
(18:21):
it just decompressing this past weekend. And when I say
they were off, they were completely off. I mean it
was like gone fishing. Sign hung at the Seyorks headquarters.
Coaches were home with family, players were home. That is
going to really help them by the end of this week.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, I'm with you. It's going to be interesting to
see how they respond. Obviously after such an emotional win
on Thursday, and yet now you got the Panthers coming,
and I mean you got to take them seriously. They're
they're fighting for their division. And you know, this is
a team that's been swept by the Saints this season,
and yet just a couple of weeks ago beat the Rams,
(18:58):
and so interesting to see the least how they're going
to come out against a team that some people might
think could be a trap gamer, a little bit of
a letdown game after what they had. But I appreciate
everything you did and we'll talk to you again tomorrow. Okay, Greg,
all right, Happy week, Calculater, Thanks you all right. That's
Greg Bell with us. He's brought to you by the
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Panthers a little bit, whether or not Hugh thinks that's
a possible letdown game or something they might overlook. How
much the mini buy does give them, so stick around
here at Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. In
general version is terrible, but I like to just pull
one out and see what happens. Yeah, well you did.
You pulled one out and it's made me on not
(20:01):
gonna lie. I did get a little yawnie there. Anyways, everybody,
welcome back into the program. We are, I don't know,
not quite to the halfway point. Got through a lot
of stuff so far, most of it centering around this Seahawks.
We've talked a little bit of NFL stuff. We're gonna
have more of that to come. We've got Sando coming
up at eight o'clock and then coach Breedlove is stopping
(20:21):
in for a visit. The first time we've ever had
Love on. He has no idea what it even means yet,
but he will. He will soon find out. We're gonna
we're gonna dive into a bunch of different stuff. But
right here I kind of wanted to jump off kind
of where I left off with Greg talking about the Panthers.
The Panthers another team led by a former first overall
(20:41):
pick in Bryce Young. Now Bryce Young, I think probably
of Kay Williams, is pretty short sample size, right, It's
only in a second season. Lawrence has had moments where
you can see physically why he does, why he was
taken where he was taken, and yet for the most part,
it has a hard time stringing games or even seasons
(21:03):
together that make him look like he was legit. I
think a lot of people already threw the bust word out.
I think that's prematurely used by the way. I think
that there's a lot of people that say that too
darn quick. Bryce Miller hasn't really done a whole heck
of a lot, and yet now second year under Dave Knelisy,
he's looking better. They're still eight and seven, but they're
(21:24):
starting to get better when it matters most. They ended
up having a significant win yesterday against Tampa Bay, both
of them buying for that spot for the title down
there in the NFC. I am curious your opinion of
a team. This is a team, like I said last segment,
they just beat the La Rams two weeks ago, and
(21:47):
yet they in between that they had a game where
they lost to the Saints for the second time, getting
swept by the Saints, And I don't know for sure
how you can feel about this team coming into it.
I know that humans are here. Humans and athletes are that,
and there is a tendency sometimes after a big game,
an emotional win, where you you look at the opponent
(22:08):
head and you're like, we, on paper, we should smoke
these guys, and yet that's not the way that it works.
It starts out zero zero. So any any fear of
that in your opinion?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Well, I think that the Seax have benefited this year
by having a number of games where they kind of
caught the the team at a favorable time. For example,
you didn't have to play the Colts in October when
they were just flying, you know, and ultimately, you know,
spent more than half of the year up until just
a couple of weeks ago as the highest scoring offense,
(22:38):
and of course they had Daniel Jones healthy and they
were feeling good. You didn't have to play the Vikings
with a possibly resurgent JJ McCarthy. You didn't have to
play the Falcons with Michael Pennix. Like they've caught some breaks.
I think that this Sunday they're catching Carolina at a
(23:00):
a relatively favorable time for Caroline. I think they're gonna
feel really good about where they are. They've got the
underdog juice of here comes the number one seeded Seattle Seahawks.
They're trying to win a division. They think they can
knock off Tampa Bay again in Week eighteen. They just did.
(23:22):
They They're a young team that couldn't be feeling better
about themselves with as you said, Canalison, year two, Tech McMillan,
their number one receiver, first round draft pick, that was
the number one. I believe he's the number one receiver
taking in the draft. You know he's really coming on
Bryce Young. You know he's getting protected better, there's a
(23:45):
better feel for him. So I think that this is
gonna be a challenge emotionally, that's gonna be a real
There's gonna be a lot of energy in that stadium
trying to pull the Carolina over the finish line on this.
So yeah, I think it's gonna be tough. I think
it's tough. I think I think it is. Greg made
this point. I agree with it. I think Seattle benefits
(24:07):
because you play the Rams. You know you you you
gave everything. You emptied everything that was an overtime game,
emostly physically, you emptied everything, and I think you need
those three or four extra days to be able to
to uh gear up for what is in store for
(24:28):
you at Carolina, because psychologically it's just hard to duplicate
that in another week. Also knowing that you're playing the
forty nine ers the following week. So yeah, it's gonna
it's gonna be it's gonna test terminal.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Yeah, test. That's where you know good coaching comes in.
It's not uh, you know, we're gonna talk about it
in the Coach Breedlove segment in more depth, but the
idea of NFL coaches and all of the undertaking, all
of that goes into it, the schematics, but really it's
such a big roster and trying to get everybody rolling
in the same direction, and you can't have anybody, especially
(25:01):
not your big playmakers the nucleus of your team overlooking
an opponent. And yet, yeah, you're sandwich this this Carolina
game and you're playing an eight and seven Carolina team.
You look at them and you start watching film. I
think that the film on Carolina, they can look like
a team that's led by a former number one pick,
and you better watch out because they can go out
(25:23):
there and move the ball on you. They have some
defensive playmakers, but then you watch some other film on
them where they, like I said, they get swept by
the New Orleans Saints. They they're very they're they're not
very consistent. And yet so if you if you let
that sink into your head while you're prepping for this team,
and next thing, you know, you're still kind of riding
(25:43):
the high or you're still feeling your oats a little
bit about what you did against LA and you're looking
forward to the game against the Niners, which is gonna
have a lot riding on the table there, whether they
win tonight against India or not. It's just one of
those things where it's to make man, was like, there's
there's a recipe where this could work out not in
(26:03):
your favor. And then all of a sudden, to some degree,
it's a letdown considering what you did, how big the
game was on Thursday. You end up, you know, kicking
one here to some degree against Carolina Panthers, and you're
gonna you're gonna be feeling like, man, we really let
something get away.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Well, and you know, and then and then if you
have a letdown of uh in against the Niners. Yeah,
I mean you could really see things unraveling.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Now.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I'm not predicting that. I think the see the Seahawks
are you know, deserving to be just called, you know,
the top two or three teams, maybe even number one
team in the NFL. I'm buying all of that. I'm
not I'm not disparaging. That's remarkable what they've accomplished, and
it was a remarkable win Thursday. But it's it's I
(26:49):
think we all have watched sports enough. You're you're an athlete,
you know the letdown from having played the Rams and
now and so you can't it's almost impossible to match
that that emotionally against the Panthers. And yet where are
the Panthers, right you just described it. They they they're
(27:11):
on the uptick emotionally. The Seahawks are on the down
tick emotionally, and so that means they have to be,
you know, all that much better. But they gotta they
got to combat it, and and and the leadership has
to challenge everybody to to put that aside. I mean,
you know, you don't. You don't want to wait till
you lose what you had to find out how much
(27:33):
it means to you, oh and that that's that that
applies in a lot of things in life obviously, but
but you know, here they are the number one seed
that can you imagine that that flight home is like
we kicked all that opportunity because we didn't we didn't
mentally prepare for Carolina and give them their their due respect.
(27:53):
So yeah, I think it's gonna be a challenge.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, I'm with you. And well, well we'll dive into
a little bit more into the Panthers as the show
goes on. But on the other side, I wanted to die.
I wanted to get into you know, I want to
talk to Hugh a little bit about a job opening
that is still out there and how that might affect
all of us around here. Sports stick around here at
Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Okay, I'm gonna
(28:15):
way home. They give me goosebumps. I don't know how
much you listen to our show, but that is the goosebump.
I don't know. Factor is something that we talk about
on a regular basis. It's big games or just moments
on the show. They give me goosebumps. That is one
of them right there. That's it's some serious. That was
a good one right there. Third day, Okay, Spotify, I
(28:37):
know what I'll be listening to on the way home.
Good stuff right there. I wish we could just sit
and listen to it the whole time, but we do
have some stuff to get into and we don't have
a whole ton of time. We only got about five minutes.
And yet I think you're the perfect guy to ask
your connection there. Over the weekend, Kenny Dillingham, the Arizona
state head coach, signs a five year extension seven and
a half million a year to stay there. Now he's
(28:57):
begging some alum to write him a check for twenty
million dollars. See how that works out. Kaylin de Boor,
I think there was already conversation last week, and we
discussed it in our first segment that Kaylin de Boor Alabama,
that whole thing them winning. I would think kind of
cools the conversation of whether or not he would be
interested in going or is still in the running for it.
(29:19):
He's kind of made it sound like he's not interested.
Then again, you don't know for sure what that means,
because coach speak is coach. Jedfish has done his best
to say I'm focused on here, I like what I've
built here, or whatever, but he hasn't came out flat
out and said I'm not going anywhere, And so where
is how much is your radar going off with all
(29:42):
of the extenuated circumstances and the fact that Michigan a
place where he has been connected to before, he's been
there before, how much is your radar going off about
possibly Jedfish being interested in that?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Well, I have no doubt that he's interested. Jedfish is interested.
I think there's some issues with Jaden Delore and some
of the issues at Arizona that may prevent Michigan uh
from having enough interest that ultimately he would get the job.
But there is a report. When you consider the credibility
(30:15):
I think it is. It creates for news here. It's
newsworthy for University of Washington fans, in my opinion, And
I have and and these are the sources. You have
to know. A guy named uh Ben Dagra d O
g r A. He was what's termed a co head
of the Creative Art Agency with Tom Condon. And if
(30:36):
you're an NFL fan, you probably heard of Tom Condon.
He represents Peyton. He represented Peyton Manning, Eli Mannings, Drew Brees,
Matthew Stafford, Matt Ryan, Alex Smith, Sam Brad Like. At
one point he was the highest guy guy. So they
they went in in ten together. Then uh and he
(30:58):
Dogra had our three, Adrian Peterson, Patrick Couilliams, Mario Williams,
a lot of people. You've heard. They brought in a
guy named Jimmy Sexton. If you're a college football net fan,
you know who Jimmy Sexton is. He has seven of
the top ten coaches. And so there was a point
where a portion of the fee that Jimmy Sexton was
(31:19):
getting was actually going to Ben Dagra. I mean, that's
the relationship. And Jimmy Sexton has Nick Saban, Kaylyn de Borg,
Steve starkejan Lanekiff, and James Franklin, Kirby Smart all right,
So so that that would be some of the credentials
that might lend to credibility. As something spoken from Ben Dagra.
(31:40):
This is from Newsweek magazine. Now Newsweek obviously has been
around a long time. You make your own assessments about
their credibility.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
You know.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
This is the online version. This is what Ben Dagger
was willing to go on record to say to Newsweek
about Jed Fish. He said, he said, I think the
guy that that they Michigan will hire is Jetfish. Excuse me,
and I'm just guessing. I don't know is j Jetfish
(32:11):
from Washington quote. I know for a fact that he's
been looking for another job. He wanted the floor Ada
job and did and did not get it. And he's
very very very interested in the Michigan job. End quote.
That's three varies. So I think that that is a
(32:36):
news story. Well, I don't say a news story, but
it is a story if given again the credentials of
the man who said it. So I don't have any
doubt in my mind that Jetfish wants the Michigan job,
and if he was offered it, I think he would
take it. And so you know where does that leave Washingtonton.
(33:01):
We'll see, We'll see does Michigan offer him the job.
I mean, at some point, I don't know how far
down the list you go. USC went four down to
get Pete Carroll. He was a fourth choice. So at
some point they might say Jeff Fish, huh right, yeah,
and so that an event. What's your reaction to that,
(33:23):
if you if you if you heard that about Dan Lanning,
that that guy who was who has had business ties
with Jimmy Sexton, who is unquestionably the main power broker
of college coaches, and nobody can dispute that fact that
he would be willing to go on the record and
(33:45):
say Dan Lanning is very, very very interested in the
Michigan job. And then you know, look, you're not going
to parse every word and hold people to every word.
But he says, I know for a fact that he
Fish is looking for another job.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Yeah, I don't think you. I mean, yeah, there's people
that stir stuff up, and it's unfortunate if you're a
coach that genuinely is like, I don't want to go anywhere,
and yet you're just your name is added to the
list because of your resume and because of where you've
been and all of that stuff. It's unfortunate, and yet
it's kind of part of the job. So you're going
to just have to deal with it. The fact that
(34:25):
the cost to you, I don't well, the sniff test
to me, when everything I've heard Jedfish say has been
without a doubt stopping short of the line of I'm
not going anywhere. I mean, Dan Lanning has came out
and said, I don't want to go anywhere. I flat
out used to have, in my opinion, a kind of
(34:48):
set of steps that I wanted to go to. I
want to be a head coach, and then I wanted
to go to the NFL, and I wanted all this
different stuff. He basically just came out and said, Now,
that's not to say that I don't take that as
gospel written in stone, but it's more it's it's more
of a stern answer. I think that a lot of
people look to see if the grass is greener on
the other side of the fence, and the grass.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Is really dear and green here in Eugene. He said,
grass is really green in Eugene.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yeah, so that's not sane. There is nothing ever that
would take me from here. Well, so i'd even think
you can say that, but it's close. It's much closer
than I'm happy with what we got going on here.
I've put a lot of time and money into things
and tried to bring this program up, and yet he's
always stopped short of I'm not going anywhere, And understandably so,
because I don't think. I think that's when you get
(35:34):
in troubles when you tell your fan base I have
nowhere that I want to go, and then a week later,
or two weeks later or two hours later, you jump ship.
Now you've you just lied right to everybody's face. You
don't have to do that. I think the proper way
to do it is to give kind of short ended
questions that don't necessarily have a firm, definitive stopping point.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
My summary, Ashley would be, you know, first of all,
Dan Lamb, I mean, has made a stronger commedy. He goes,
he was on a national radio and he said, what's
the chance you're going to take the job?
Speaker 1 (36:05):
He goes zero.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
All right, so he Landing has been willing to make
those kind of pronouncements. But I guess what, None of
what he has said is binding whatsoever in any arena,
not an illegal arena, not contract, nothing, and so he
can say whatever he wants if he wants to take
another job. He said, well, you know that's what I was.
That's what I thought then when I said it, and
it's enough of that. And then he's on, you know
(36:28):
Lane Kiffin, you know, hey, that's what I thought then
and now I'm the head coach at LSU. Jetfish is basically,
if he summarize, says, hey, I really like Washington. I
think we've got a bright future. That's it. But but
the idea that that, you know, here's a guy that
ostensibly is connected and he's and he's saying that, here's
(36:51):
a guy that Fish is very, very very interested in
the Michigan job. That's a story for Washington fans.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
It's a story for Washington fans. I mean that quote
and the one right before it. I know for a
fact he's been looking for another job. I mean to
come on record and say that is that's not something
that people here in Seattle should can just overlook. Yeah,
so all right, we got to get to a break here.
We got Mike Sando on the other side of this,
so stick around here. Sports Radio ninety three point three
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