December 22, 2025 • 35 mins
We have a special coach visiting the show today- Coach Breedlove is here and ready to answer all of our burning questions! Hugh’s thoughts on Klint Kubiak’s scripted plays… Coach Breedlove’s 4th down philosophy… Who has Hughs vote for Coach of the Year at this point? Coach Breedlove is a big DK fan, so how does he feel about what happened yesterday with a fan? :30- The Seahawks have some pressing issues as well as some things they do really well and we discuss them both with Hugh now! :45- We close out the show with one last thing!
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Well, well, well, welcome back to the show. Final hour
of the show. No Chuck, He's he's up.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Probably at the Winter Poll. I would imagine.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Helping rap presence, or I don't know, he may be
cleaning out the reindeer stalls. I'm not sure exactly what
he's doing, but he deserves some time off. He's getting
today and tomorrow off. So it's Ashley and I and
we got Hugh Millan in today, which is great because
typically on typically on Mondays, we end up doing Coach Bucky. Well,
(00:44):
I can't. I'm not going to ask myself questions that
would be stupid. So instead we're gonna change it up.
And it's not Coach Hugh, it's not Coach Miller. It's
Coach Breedlove because I think it's maybe the greatest middle
name in the history of middle name. And I know
it's a family name, right, is it Grandma's name?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, And I'm sure growing up with that middle name
there was probably some teasing going on. But as we
grow like as a redheaded, freckle faced kid with the
name that rhymes was sucky and other names, it wasn't
all that great, but I grew into it. And and
uh and found a way. So I'm sure you've done
the same with Breedlove is the middle name.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Think that's fair. There's probably a day I didn't. I
didn't like it, but then I saddled one of my
sons with it as well.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
So did you nice? Yeah, good work, breed Love.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
It's as well and it fits perfect for this because
coach breed loves.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Yeah, after that, I was basically number one.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, give them, give them that one if
you will. Well, uh, basically, just the whole thought of
this that they end up painting me into some sort
of picture of that I wear, like those short bike shorts.
You remember the coaching shorts that all the coaches wore. Yeah,
and then the sands belt. Yeah, and then you got
the the tube sox pulled all the way up, you know,
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ty shirt whistle around your neck.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
So you are wearing that right now.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
We're gonna pretend that you got the whole coach coach
Breedlove outfit.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
On.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Have a cigarette near me, I'll go, I'll go up
and flame.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Okay, yeah, yeah exactly. All right, Well, we're gonna go
over a few topics.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, we're gonna go over a few topics and get
Coach Breedlove's idea on the whole thing. I mean, I'm
gonna just start off with one, the hawks first drive.
I mean, I don't think anybody can give a better
perspective of this besides Coach Breedlove, because you were a
quarterback at one point in time.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
The idea of these offensive.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Minds and even not the other you know, head coaches
that have defensive minds, Their offensive coordinator goes out there
typically I imagine, and tries to script what they want
to do on their first possession, and you gotta.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Stay on track. You gotta stay you know, on down.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
You don't want to fall behind or get sacked, because
obviously that's not something they're writing into their script. The
Seahawks first possession was the best that they've had in
quite some time. We've been talking and for weeks about
the slow starts of this offense. Did you see anything
other than well, that screen is nice to turn into
a forty six yard pass and put us down there,
you know, knocking on the doorstep. But do you like
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the way Clint Kubak does his scripted plays or is
that something that's left to be desired to some degree.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
How are you feeling about their first I liked it.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
When it was working, you know, for the better part
of ten weeks. Seattle was number one and in points
in the first half, but then they've kind of fallen off.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I think the most conspicuous play the boot screen to
Canine yep, was a sensational you know. And its structure,
you know, it's a mister or it's it's kind of
a misdirection on stacked on a misdirection. You're faking the
stretch left and then you're faking the quarterback right in
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a quarterback Darnold sprinting out to the right side.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Oh no, we don't.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
We stop and throw back to Canine, who you fake
to the stretch? So so that you know, those type
of players are often designed to take advantage of a
defense that wants to, you know, flow too much to
the ball and not read out their assignments. But uh,
I think that that coaches who do the script, they
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want to get into different formations and personnel groupings to see, okay,
how are they going to respond to that? And and
then they make the notes and they say, okay, if
if you wanted to play with.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
You know, when we went twelve personnel.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
And we motioned from uh, you know a two by
two to a three by one, how did you respond?
What personnel grouping were you? Did you did you run
with somebody or did you rock the safeties?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
What have you?
Speaker 4 (04:47):
And then you know, did you change your coverage?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
And and then you say, well, well maybe we can
induce you to do that again, and then you have
a beater for that coverage, you know, so oh we
were able to get you and cover three and rock
the safety. Well you know, you know, now we can
run the tight end into that area away from your rotation,
and so so there's all kinds of plays where you're
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trying to set it up that way and uh and
and yet it's a misnomer to say it's the first
fifteen because you're going to deviate off the script unless
you have literally like okay, we don't face a third
down like were we are executing at such a high level.
You know, we're we're eight for eight in those fifteen plays,
and the and the seven runs you know, average six
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and a half yards per with a minimum of five
like then you would you're fifteen would be the fifteen,
but you usually are going to you run a few
of those, then you got to stop for a third
and one or a third and eleven, you got to
punt the ball and then oh the field position. I'm
not going to be able to get back onto my
script because I don't like this play, you know, from
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my own four yard line after the opponent punter just
bin it. So that that's kind of some of the
stuff we had. But but to me, it's basically simple.
If if you're if you're moving and scoring points, then great,
you're doing a good job of scripting.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
They need to probably maybe work on rocking the cast
BA a little bit. And when they're rocking, you know,
rock the safety. Everyone's on the safety and then rock
the cast Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I think so, I mean, I think it makes sense.
I think you mix it in.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I know Homegren was always looking to say, hey, if
we motion are the rocking the casball.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
That's that's that you can't be unaware of what's happening
with the kasbo exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Another topic that is going to be highly discussed and
I will forever, I think nowadays, just the way that
the game is being played there's it typically used to be.
You get to fourth down unless you're right on that
that edge of can't kick the field goal.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
It's too far out for the field goal.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
It's a short fourth and two or fourth and less
than one something, then baby, we'll go for it. Other
than that, you're paying the team down and trying to
make them drive a longer field.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
That is not the case. There's teams, a lot of them.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
They trust their offense, they trust the quarterback, they trust
that they can get that and they're going for it.
I mean, Sean McVay I think had four fourth down
attempts in the first quarter. Now their first drive ended
by not getting one after they had gotten a couple earlier.
What is coach breed Love's fourth down philosophy? Has it
changed from when you you used to play and when
you were used to coach or is it is it
(07:29):
the same?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Well with you know, coaching kids, nobody cares about that.
But we didn't punt because you know your your net
change and field positions so little it's not worth it.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
So we didn't even practice punting.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Okay, and I'm being serious and so, but okay, that's
not why you're asking.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
The to me. You know, you've heard the saying there's
no two snowflakes are the same.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I think that there is no two situations that are
exactly the same. And I'm being more literal than I sound.
You know, home grin is basically anti you know, the metrics,
right and the analytics. Some want to coach by the
feel some want to go exactly by quote unquote the book.
(08:22):
But I think that that's telling you what other teams
were doing against your opponent, or what have you, or
or an aggregate of what the league says you should do.
But you know, particularly as the game develops based on
you know what, if the game is scoring half of
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what you thought. You know, the Vegas had the over
under at forty nine and you're sitting there in a
thirteen to ten game in the fourth quarter, Well you're
going to have a different take on you know. You know,
if you feel like your defense is just handling them,
you know, three points are more valuable. Then if it's
attract meet and everybody's going up and down the you say,
(09:03):
wait a minute, I can't kick a field goal here.
So I think there's it's a blend of the analytics
and the feel for the game. But you know, I
think I think Dan Campbell has been an interesting study
in that regard because he's been noted to be the
most aggressive go for it guy and fourth down and
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last year when the Lions were fifteen and two, And
then I stop for a second on the Lions last
year because the NFC North a year ago set the
all time record for highest win percentage in the history
of the NFL. And I've looked at the list and
number five was that Western Division in nineteen thirty five. Like,
this is a division, this is a record that goes
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back a long time, the NFC North and the Lions.
Out of thirty two teams in the NFL, there was
only one team that went six to zero in their
Division one team and it was the Lions. And again
in the toughest the highest division winning percentage in history.
By the way, they the second place was the twenty
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thirteen NFC West when the x won the Super Bowl. Right, so,
but but the NFC North surpassed it.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Anyways, I divert so here, Dan Campbell a year ago
was fifteen and.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Two in the the most competitive division in NFL history.
And it's like everything that he hit was right. A
year later, everything he hits is wrong. His fourth downs
have been abysmal, and and the kind where you just
shake your head and everybody just says, well, Dan Gambill's
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gonna keep on doing that. Well, you got a bit
of different team this year. I your offensive line isn't
what it was, and so so.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
At any event that would be.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
My take is it's every single decision is unique to
its right.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, And I think the ability to adjust to it
is something that the best coaches are good at, and
the ones they're middle of the ground, they tend to
kind of stick to what they thought going into it
and don't necessarily make adjustments. We shall see if it coach,
if if any coaches make adjustments to that whole thing.
Coach of the year, what's coach Breed Love's take. Who
(11:21):
you're voting for a Coach of the year right now?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Well, I think in the NFC, I think it's Kyle Shanahan,
maybe Ben Johnson, But you know, you say Ben Johnson
because they're eleven four, where do they come from? And
so you give the nod butt Their quarterback has been healthy.
The forty nine ers have had to deal with a
lot more injuries, including at the quarterback position, so you
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vote for that at the end of the season. So
I would say that if the forty nine Ers end
up as the number one seed, which means to see
loss at least one of the next two games. But
if the forty nine Ers end up as the number
one seed, given everything that they've had to deal with
with injuries, Kyle Shanahan would be your NFC guy. And
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then you say, well, what about Verbel at New England?
Now he has not had to deal with He's got
a number three overall quarterback in Drake May that is
coming into his own but the substantial gain from a
year ago is just too much to ignore. So I
would say that probably probably Vrabel, you know, Sean Payton, uh,
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you know, would be in consideration. But I think it
would come down to Shanahan versus Verbel right now as today,
given that San Francisco is the number six seed and
ten to four, I'd probably say Verybel one Shanahan two. Yeah,
but that that could change.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Right, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I think Liam Cohen is probably trying to make a
little bit of a run two and Jackson.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yes, he discussed him earlier Lwrence or Lawrence.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah, I mean there are only one game behind New England.
So anything that you say about about New England, you
could say about Jacksonville, right, yep y, But New England
was even further down and you got a younger quarterback.
I mean, if you wanted to really just like parse
out all these elements, I think Rabel would be a
(13:21):
little bit more worthy of Liam Colm. But absolutely Colin
should get a lot of consideration.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Right, all right, Well, I got one more for coach
Breedlove and and you know you've been a giant fan
of DK Metcalf and what he brings to the table. Obviously,
you know, probably a little irritated and the fact that
he's gone, and the fact that he never really was
used the way that that coach Breedlove and coach Hugh
(13:47):
Millan would have used him. And yet he got kind
of caught up in an ugly situation. Who knows what
was said at this point in time, but apparently somebody
a fan of the opposing team ends up last night
during the line Steelers game. He ends up kind of
looks like he's kind of grabbing him, maybe holding on
to his shirt or something and then takes a little
bit of a swipe. I don't know if he hits
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him or not. I would imagine that that guy sees
dollar signs at this point in time, he's gonna say
that he hit him. But I mean to me, as
a former athlete, you, as a former athlete, there's got
to be a line, and the line has stopped somewhere
short of putting your hands on somebody, regardless of what
they say. And that sucks to say, but it's kind
of part of your job. You're gonna get you're gonna
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get heckled. He doesn't handle that very well. But this
is the ugliest incident. What does a coach Breedlove think
about the DK situation?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Well, more or less what you just articulated, there's exactly
zero tolerance or excuse or any kind of rationalizing a
way what he did. It's it's intolerable. It is a
very poor look on him. Primarily it's a poor look
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on this Steelers. It's a poor look on the NFL.
Uh there's no place for it none. There's no excusing,
you know, talking to a buddy, Well, apparently uh DK
said that somebody used the N word. If that's true.
That is very unfortunate. You know, in twenty twenty five
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that any any person could you know, a white person
could use that word to a black person, you know,
but that still would not excuse you're a professional athlete,
because you know what if you were, if you say,
well that that gives a guy a reason to punch
a fan, then we're gonna be have having played and
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now all of a sudden, idiots are going to incite
players to punch, you know, and then they get suspended,
and you know, get it. Oh, let me let me
see if I can suspend you know, Davante Adams. You know,
we're playing the Rams, you know, and then a fan
could do that boom, and then and then a guy
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takes a swipe at him. So no, there's no there's
nothing I can say. There's no qualifiers. It's an absolute
horrendous look. Yes, and and totally unexcusable and unforgivable. I
got nothing, no word in his defense whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, I don't. I don't either. I'm with you. It sucks.
There's times.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I mean, obviously I never had anything that would resemble
that if somebody used the N word.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I never had anything like that.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
But again, you know, we can started this segment talking
about how you know, childhood at times wasn't all that
fun for a little redheaded, freckle faced kid with a
name that you know rhymes with the F word. And
yet once I got to professional sports, and I was
a pretty easy target for the opposing fans, right, the
biggest guy out there. I was bald, I'm fallically challenged,
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So there's that easy one that they would just say, oh,
you're you're too fat to play baseball. I enjoyed it, actually,
I actually kind of ate it up. I would actually
turn and yeah and start having a conversation with him, right,
And then if you got to do what I wanted
to do, which was go yard, then I would come
back and be like, did you enjoy that? Was that
was that fun for you? Like I would kind of
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eat it up a little bit. I turned opposing fans
sections into like my cheering section by handling it the
right way. In my opinion, this is not the right way.
But and now he's gonna get fine. But let's try
to spend it. Let's straw a distinction there.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
And I know you're not saying this, but let's let's
just make sure we're drawn as a distinction. You getting
teased for your name or being freckled is at a
different level than a black person in America being called
a funderboard, right, Like, you have to have early middle
school education to understand the magnitude of that. So you
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know that that fan uh if he said that, it's
a disgrace, But you know what, DK got to be
above it.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Or if you can't wear a professional uniform. And by
the way, you punched a guy wearing a blue wig,
that didn't get you any freaking tough guy points on
any scale.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Right, Well, maybe maybe that's what started it. Maybe he
said my blue hair looks better than your blue hair.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Maybe maybe that's maybe that's triggered him.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
If so, DK triggered for less.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Well that's the the whole idea of not being able
to control yourself. I agree, there's nothing about what I
got hazed or heckled that comes close to anything like
that that. You're right, that is just plain and simple
on all levels.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I'm just responding to, you know, possible speculator like, I'm
not saying that as fact. I hope I said if indeed,
worst like The most charitable you could be for DK
is if you want, if you like, if somebody said
pistol to your head, you got to somehow, in the
court of a public opinion, diffuse what DK Metcalf did. Well,
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if you were charged with that task, you'd say, well,
they called him the N word, and you know what,
that is justifiably incendiary and inflammatory and and it should
shock everybody if that happened. And yet even still, yeah,
I'd say that is not an excuse for what he did.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah, No, I'm with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
It can make you want to punch somebody and then
you have to go can I certain times, No, there's
there's times that I.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Chose to play.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
You chose to play a team sport. You didn't play golf,
you didn't play tennis, you didn't wrestle. You played a
team sport. You have an obligation to your teammates. Tigers
are badass and lions are badass. But there's a difference.
Tigers live and dwell solo. Lions are part of a pride.
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They have to fit into a social structure. When you
play football, you're a lion, not a tiger.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah, right on, well said all right.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
On the other side, I want to get Hugh and
try to get Ashley in on this one as well.
We're going to try to figure out what your favorite
thing and least favorite thing about the Seahawks is right
now on Sports Radio ninety three point three KGRFM. Tease
this as kind of wanting to get to what is
your favorite thing?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Right?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I mean, you're this time of year, you got the holidays,
should be a kind of a positive situation, and yet
I don't necessarily want to leave it at just that,
So I'll just go cut and dry. What's your favorite
or most pressing issue with the Seahawks at this point
when you've watched them play.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
The entire season up to this point, and what's your.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
What's your your favorite thing I suppose you'd say about
watching this team?
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Uh, most pressing is the offensive line. Okay, I think
particularly on the inside of the offensive line. Uh, you know,
I think sometimes the center gets trucked. I think he's
a really good athlete, but I think he's got power issues.
I said, you know, and in one of those uh
one of those superstars competition, I think he would win
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the obstacle course race against other NFL centers, but he
would lose the keg toss over the pole vault bar
got me and and so that that just is the
you know, going to continue to be the the I
don't know anchor if you will, of the team until
we see otherwise does.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
That effect Do you dislike that more because of the
way in which it affects a run game or do
you dislike it more because of the disruption that it?
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Great question in the passing game?
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Great question.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I think that they have been kind of equal opportunity,
you know, restricts in both capacities and and it generally
when they have a most of the time, if they
have a bad game in one phase, they're also having
a bad game in the other phase. There's very few
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few games where you say, oh wow.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
They protect great, but they were horrible and run blocking
or vice versa.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
So yeahs As for I was just going to say,
I mean, I'm I'm with you on that, and yet
I don't. To me, it's the it's the idea of obviously,
how is it, how does how does it negative if
negatively affect you the most? Where it's like we see
at times when they can just create a little bit
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of a seam. We saw it on Thursday, and all
of a sudden, ken Walker can hit that thing, or
even Zach Charmoney when he's going to get his touches,
because they're not going to just go thirty thirty carries
for ken Walker. As much as a lot of people
wish they would that he's getting four or five six yards,
that he's kind of running tough even though he can't
take it.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
To the house.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah, and yet the idea of getting blown up, which
we have seen Sundell or even Oluwa Timmy when he
was in there get blown up. And now that guy's
there's two big, you know, massive humans right in Darnold's face.
If he can you know, get out of the pocket
and get out of the way, then okay, he can
make the throws on the run. If he tries to
make it there, then we've seen that oftentimes land in
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the in the belly of an opponent.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
So yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I would say that my thing that I dislike the
most is just that interior offensive line where it feels like, boy,
this is a volatile place that you don't want either way,
whether you're running or passing right there. So how about
pleasant things, things that you like the most, about what
you're seeing so far.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Well, I think there's five phases of a team roughly,
I think how you run it, how you throw it,
how you defend the run, how you defend the pass,
and special teams. I think they're all about twenty percent.
And I think that what the Seahawks do best of
those five if you can see that for this discussion,
stopping the run is the best thing that they do.
The football team does they you know, for the season
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wide and you know they have a great way that
they build a wall. There's you know, Byron Murphy, when
I say build a wall, let me explain what I mean.
There's there's terms, three terms types of defensive line play
you can have. You can be a one gap, penetrating
defensive line that just like Tampa Bay in two thousand
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and two they won a Super Bowl and they were like, hey,
just get up field. And then you can have two
a two gapping defensive line where they're not trying to penetrate,
they're trying to hold up the offensive lineman and then
as the name implies, be able to respond to the
inside gap or the outside gap and then allow you
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know linebackers to flow and make tackles. The Seahawks are
more the latter, but really a gap and a half.
They'll they'll they'll they'll go into gap, but they won't
try and penetrate. They won't try and get be disruptive
into the backfield. They'll just hold their They'll get into
that gap and hold the ground at the lion of scrimmage.
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And they're trying to force the running back to spill
the play to the outside where then they can flow
inside out on it. And and so their schematics and
with Leonard Williams and Byron Murphy, I I when I
watch the tape, you know, and you watch on offensive
line play by defensive line play, by the end zone copy.
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That's how the players watch it. And so Monday morning
I watched the All twenty two for the passing game,
and but then offensive line play I watch on the
end zone copy.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
And it takes a lot of strength to be a
Sea Ok defensive lineman. I mean you gotta just anchor
to I mean, every freaking play is just you know,
you're wrestling, you know, a full grown elk, you know,
on every freaking play, and and you know it's like, damn,
that takes a lot of strength to do what they do,
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and so you got to be young and virile and
and have a rotation. But they've been able to do
it schematically and they got the parts to do it.
So yeah, stop, there's my answer to your question how
they stop the run because that that sets up you know,
it's like it's like being a pitcher, you know, in
one or even an you know you're trying to get
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to an O two count.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
You know, third and long is in an O two count.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Right, like you you play the percentages out right, you know,
and you know the defenses. You know, picture's gonna win
on O two counts if you just got to get there, right,
you're gonna win on third and long defensively, you just
got to get there. So first and first down, if
you're successful like they've been, you create the long longer
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yard is on third down the number.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Are you gonna occasionally give up some third nines and third?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Uh, Matthew Stafford ripped you for a third and nine
early in the third quarter, right after K nine scored
that it was exactly third and nine, and so you're
gonna give up some of them, just like you're gonna
give up an O two, you know, double in the gap.
But you like your percentages. You can get to as
many O twos. You like your percentages, you get to
as many third and longs, and you do that by
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stopping the run.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Although there's one of the more demoralizing things when you
do well on first and second down and you create
third and long and then they can they convert it. That's,
first of all, a lot of the Broncos game. The
next play, Mine would probably just be JSN, even though
I like, I wouldn't take much to be talked into,
you know, your where your head's at as well, but
(27:42):
just JSN, just that we saw him last year, you know,
had kind of a breakout season and a good year
and yet to jump from where he was last year,
his first year to this year. I don't know for
sure if many people saw that coming. It's been a
pretty pleasant surprise.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I would say, well, yeah, if you're talking individuals, I
was kind of talking more phases, but yeah, we can
coexist on these opinions, right, And you know, look, JSN,
I don't have the numbers in front of me, but
he had been overwhelmingly a slot receiver at Ohio State
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and then his first couple of years in the NFL. This,
in my opinion, is a big deal about if you're
going to talk about JSN, I don't think you can
tell the story of JSN in twenty twenty five without
discussing this fact. He's always been a slot receiver and
now he's private predominant almost by a two to one
racial he's an outside receiver. It's a different skill set.
In the slot, you're using more moxie and football intelligence,
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and hey do I idle down in between these linebackers.
Where outside you're going against the defense's best athlete, those corners,
and you've just got to find a way with your
skill set and your technique to create separation. I thought
that was a potential concern about his game because he
(29:03):
hadn't proven it on any consistent basis. Well, you know,
you can wad those concerns up and throw him in
the garbage scan. I mean, he's just he's showing what
a complete receiver he is and he's going to be
first team All Pro and and he did and.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
He deserves it.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
And what a humble guy too, Like the game that
what what game did he that they almost got nothing.
I'd have to look at the game log, but but
he had just this total whatever you think of a
Prima Donna wide receiver, he was anti Prima Donna. And
so he's show like, I don't know, I can't imagine
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anybody in this city not adoring this guy.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Very good app Okay, yeah, yes, comparison there.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I mean, just just humility.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
It's ok while you're kicking everybody's ass.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
As a matter of fact, it's it's quite enjoyable for
a face.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
And then our favorite athletes, it's mine.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Some people like the Bravado. It's just not my cup
of tea. So all right, well we got one last
thing coming up after this. Stick around here at Sports
Radio ninety three point three KJRFM, Welcome back to the
show Chuck Buck in the Morning with Ashley Ryan.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
By the way, Ashley, I don't know, have you ever
watched ink Master?
Speaker 6 (30:29):
No?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
I am not.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Well there's a gallon there.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
She won ink Master one time and her name is
Ryan Ashley, And it's one of our kind of just
like zone out that you don't have to think about it.
TV shows will watch every once along when every time
I see her, I think of you because her name's
Ryan Ashley.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
You're like, oh, she's almost got the best name ever.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
But it's backwards.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yep, exactly. Well, today has been a day without Chuck.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
He's getting a couple of days off leading into Christmas,
even Christmas Day, and yet we got the pleasure of
having Hugh Milling in for us to help kind of
break some stuff down and great, great work as usual.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Hugh.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Do you got a one last thing for us? Thank
you for the nice words. Yeah, you know, we've been
on four hours. The words Sam Donald have not come
out of our mouths. And I just want to dwell
on some numbers here for a second. Sam Donald as
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tied for the highest win percentage this year twenty twenty
five with Bo Nicks, who we're talking about quarterback win percentage.
If you go over the last two seasons, Sam Donald
is number one in the NFL over the last two seasons.
And you say, well, that does that count playoffs either way?
You want to do just regular season, he's number one.
(31:43):
You want to do playoffs, he's number one. And in fact,
you go back to his career really changed On November
twenty seventh, twenty twenty two, that was the first time
he had sat. He watched eleven games as a Carolina Panther.
Where you're playing this week obviously, and then he had
six starts started for a game for San Francisco, Minnesota
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and Seattle. So this so since twenty twenty two, those
these four seasons, that's Sam Donald with four different coaches,
four different offensive systems, four different set of receivers to
with whom to acquire cohesion. I'm gonna give you that
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the I'm gonna go Letterman style real quick. These are
the win percentages over the last since twenty twenty two.
Matthew Stafford number ten, Joe Burrow number nine, then Rock Purdy,
Jared Goff, Mar Jackson six, Boon Nicks five, Patrick Mahomes four,
Josh Allen three, Jalen Hurts two, Sam Donald number one
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and he now, let's just go back to this year
as a Seahawk number one in the NFL and twenty
plus yards play percent number one in the NFL, and
net yards per ten number one in the NFL. Yards
per attempt number one in percentage of his passes that
are fifteen yards or more completions over fifty yards, like, look,
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there are better quarterbacks in the NFL, but this guy's
having a hell of a season. He's become a damn
good quarterback. And I hope we just can get behind
him when there's a little bit of a struggle for
a series or two in the first half, and you know,
kind of help along the way. Maybe that's an old
fashioned thought, but you know, the guy kind of deserves
(33:33):
to be like, hey, just let's let's let him do
his job.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah, I'm with you one hundred percent. I think he's
definitely been better than what was here just recently before,
and so he needs a little bit of grace when
he actually isn't perfect.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Asked you got one last day? I do.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
I just think one of the one of the things
that has really sucked about the way that college football
has gone is the basically the what's happened with the rivalries?
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Right?
Speaker 5 (33:58):
A lot of the rivalries aren't the same. Look at
the Apple Cup, that's not the same anymore. One of
the things that at least was still intact was USC
Notre Dame, and now it looks like that is actually
going to be coming to an end. USC and Notre Dame.
They're saying, according to Ross Ellinger of Yahoo, that it'll
end next year and Notre Dame is finalizing a two
year deal with BYU instead.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
I just think that's sad.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
That's like been one of the gems about college football
is the rival reason. If you take them away, that's
just a sad place to be.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
I couldn't say it any better. Have you said it
very succinctly. I completely concur I think it's brutal.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah, yep, I agree. I agree.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I always like beating up on Oregon State. It is
something fun and hopefully it never goes away.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
Hopefully for you it never goes to.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yeah, hopefully even those rodents.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Anyways, Well, anyway, Hugh, I wasn't lying, man, Thanks for
jumping on here.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
It's easy doing the show with you.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
It is like just sitting out on the patio and
chopping it up and talking about some sports. So hopefully
the listeners enjoyed it. I enjoyed it, so thank you man.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
That catch you.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
The pleasure was mine. Merry Christmas to both of you,
thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Merry Christmas to you too.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
To Mia, Shelley said hello and give the give the
boys some knuckles for me and Merry Christmas, doll.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
All right, Merry Christmas to everybody.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Ash thank you very much for hanging in there with me,
and we will be back tomorrow one more show before
we head off for our Christmas vacation. Up next, we
got MJ in the midday and I think Ashley Ryan correct,
all right, kid gets the day off because Ashley is
a saint. All right, Everybody stick around here. You got
(35:35):
MJ and Ash up next. Sports Radio ninety three point
three KJR FM
Well, well, well, welcome back to the show. Final hour
of the show. No Chuck, He's he's up.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Probably at the Winter Poll. I would imagine.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Helping rap presence, or I don't know, he may be
cleaning out the reindeer stalls. I'm not sure exactly what
he's doing, but he deserves some time off. He's getting
today and tomorrow off. So it's Ashley and I and
we got Hugh Millan in today, which is great because
typically on typically on Mondays, we end up doing Coach Bucky. Well,
(00:44):
I can't. I'm not going to ask myself questions that
would be stupid. So instead we're gonna change it up.
And it's not Coach Hugh, it's not Coach Miller. It's
Coach Breedlove because I think it's maybe the greatest middle
name in the history of middle name. And I know
it's a family name, right, is it Grandma's name?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, And I'm sure growing up with that middle name
there was probably some teasing going on. But as we
grow like as a redheaded, freckle faced kid with the
name that rhymes was sucky and other names, it wasn't
all that great, but I grew into it. And and
uh and found a way. So I'm sure you've done
the same with Breedlove is the middle name.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Think that's fair. There's probably a day I didn't. I
didn't like it, but then I saddled one of my
sons with it as well.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
So did you nice? Yeah, good work, breed Love.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
It's as well and it fits perfect for this because
coach breed loves.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Yeah, after that, I was basically number one.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, give them, give them that one if
you will. Well, uh, basically, just the whole thought of
this that they end up painting me into some sort
of picture of that I wear, like those short bike shorts.
You remember the coaching shorts that all the coaches wore. Yeah,
and then the sands belt. Yeah, and then you got
the the tube sox pulled all the way up, you know,
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ty shirt whistle around your neck.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
So you are wearing that right now.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
We're gonna pretend that you got the whole coach coach
Breedlove outfit.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
On.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Have a cigarette near me, I'll go, I'll go up
and flame.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Okay, yeah, yeah exactly. All right, Well, we're gonna go
over a few topics.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, we're gonna go over a few topics and get
Coach Breedlove's idea on the whole thing. I mean, I'm
gonna just start off with one, the hawks first drive.
I mean, I don't think anybody can give a better
perspective of this besides Coach Breedlove, because you were a
quarterback at one point in time.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
The idea of these offensive.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Minds and even not the other you know, head coaches
that have defensive minds, Their offensive coordinator goes out there
typically I imagine, and tries to script what they want
to do on their first possession, and you gotta.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Stay on track. You gotta stay you know, on down.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
You don't want to fall behind or get sacked, because
obviously that's not something they're writing into their script. The
Seahawks first possession was the best that they've had in
quite some time. We've been talking and for weeks about
the slow starts of this offense. Did you see anything
other than well, that screen is nice to turn into
a forty six yard pass and put us down there,
you know, knocking on the doorstep. But do you like
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the way Clint Kubak does his scripted plays or is
that something that's left to be desired to some degree.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
How are you feeling about their first I liked it.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
When it was working, you know, for the better part
of ten weeks. Seattle was number one and in points
in the first half, but then they've kind of fallen off.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I think the most conspicuous play the boot screen to
Canine yep, was a sensational you know. And its structure,
you know, it's a mister or it's it's kind of
a misdirection on stacked on a misdirection. You're faking the
stretch left and then you're faking the quarterback right in
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a quarterback Darnold sprinting out to the right side.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Oh no, we don't.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
We stop and throw back to Canine, who you fake
to the stretch? So so that you know, those type
of players are often designed to take advantage of a
defense that wants to, you know, flow too much to
the ball and not read out their assignments. But uh,
I think that that coaches who do the script, they
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want to get into different formations and personnel groupings to see, okay,
how are they going to respond to that? And and
then they make the notes and they say, okay, if
if you wanted to play with.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
You know, when we went twelve personnel.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
And we motioned from uh, you know a two by
two to a three by one, how did you respond?
What personnel grouping were you? Did you did you run
with somebody or did you rock the safeties?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
What have you?
Speaker 4 (04:47):
And then you know, did you change your coverage?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
And and then you say, well, well maybe we can
induce you to do that again, and then you have
a beater for that coverage, you know, so oh we
were able to get you and cover three and rock
the safety. Well you know, you know, now we can
run the tight end into that area away from your rotation,
and so so there's all kinds of plays where you're
(05:13):
trying to set it up that way and uh and
and yet it's a misnomer to say it's the first
fifteen because you're going to deviate off the script unless
you have literally like okay, we don't face a third
down like were we are executing at such a high level.
You know, we're we're eight for eight in those fifteen plays,
and the and the seven runs you know, average six
(05:36):
and a half yards per with a minimum of five
like then you would you're fifteen would be the fifteen,
but you usually are going to you run a few
of those, then you got to stop for a third
and one or a third and eleven, you got to
punt the ball and then oh the field position. I'm
not going to be able to get back onto my
script because I don't like this play, you know, from
(05:56):
my own four yard line after the opponent punter just
bin it. So that that's kind of some of the
stuff we had. But but to me, it's basically simple.
If if you're if you're moving and scoring points, then great,
you're doing a good job of scripting.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
They need to probably maybe work on rocking the cast
BA a little bit. And when they're rocking, you know,
rock the safety. Everyone's on the safety and then rock
the cast Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I think so, I mean, I think it makes sense.
I think you mix it in.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I know Homegren was always looking to say, hey, if
we motion are the rocking the casball.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
That's that's that you can't be unaware of what's happening
with the kasbo exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Another topic that is going to be highly discussed and
I will forever, I think nowadays, just the way that
the game is being played there's it typically used to be.
You get to fourth down unless you're right on that
that edge of can't kick the field goal.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
It's too far out for the field goal.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
It's a short fourth and two or fourth and less
than one something, then baby, we'll go for it. Other
than that, you're paying the team down and trying to
make them drive a longer field.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
That is not the case. There's teams, a lot of them.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
They trust their offense, they trust the quarterback, they trust
that they can get that and they're going for it.
I mean, Sean McVay I think had four fourth down
attempts in the first quarter. Now their first drive ended
by not getting one after they had gotten a couple earlier.
What is coach breed Love's fourth down philosophy? Has it
changed from when you you used to play and when
you were used to coach or is it is it
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the same?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Well with you know, coaching kids, nobody cares about that.
But we didn't punt because you know your your net
change and field positions so little it's not worth it.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
So we didn't even practice punting.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Okay, and I'm being serious and so, but okay, that's
not why you're asking.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
The to me. You know, you've heard the saying there's
no two snowflakes are the same.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I think that there is no two situations that are
exactly the same. And I'm being more literal than I sound.
You know, home grin is basically anti you know, the metrics,
right and the analytics. Some want to coach by the
feel some want to go exactly by quote unquote the book.
(08:22):
But I think that that's telling you what other teams
were doing against your opponent, or what have you, or
or an aggregate of what the league says you should do.
But you know, particularly as the game develops based on
you know what, if the game is scoring half of
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what you thought. You know, the Vegas had the over
under at forty nine and you're sitting there in a
thirteen to ten game in the fourth quarter, Well you're
going to have a different take on you know. You know,
if you feel like your defense is just handling them,
you know, three points are more valuable. Then if it's
attract meet and everybody's going up and down the you say,
(09:03):
wait a minute, I can't kick a field goal here.
So I think there's it's a blend of the analytics
and the feel for the game. But you know, I
think I think Dan Campbell has been an interesting study
in that regard because he's been noted to be the
most aggressive go for it guy and fourth down and
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last year when the Lions were fifteen and two, And
then I stop for a second on the Lions last
year because the NFC North a year ago set the
all time record for highest win percentage in the history
of the NFL. And I've looked at the list and
number five was that Western Division in nineteen thirty five. Like,
this is a division, this is a record that goes
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back a long time, the NFC North and the Lions.
Out of thirty two teams in the NFL, there was
only one team that went six to zero in their
Division one team and it was the Lions. And again
in the toughest the highest division winning percentage in history.
By the way, they the second place was the twenty
(10:09):
thirteen NFC West when the x won the Super Bowl. Right, so,
but but the NFC North surpassed it.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Anyways, I divert so here, Dan Campbell a year ago
was fifteen and.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Two in the the most competitive division in NFL history.
And it's like everything that he hit was right. A
year later, everything he hits is wrong. His fourth downs
have been abysmal, and and the kind where you just
shake your head and everybody just says, well, Dan Gambill's
(10:44):
gonna keep on doing that. Well, you got a bit
of different team this year. I your offensive line isn't
what it was, and so so.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
At any event that would be.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
My take is it's every single decision is unique to
its right.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, And I think the ability to adjust to it
is something that the best coaches are good at, and
the ones they're middle of the ground, they tend to
kind of stick to what they thought going into it
and don't necessarily make adjustments. We shall see if it coach,
if if any coaches make adjustments to that whole thing.
Coach of the year, what's coach Breed Love's take. Who
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you're voting for a Coach of the year right now?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Well, I think in the NFC, I think it's Kyle Shanahan,
maybe Ben Johnson, But you know, you say Ben Johnson
because they're eleven four, where do they come from? And
so you give the nod butt Their quarterback has been healthy.
The forty nine ers have had to deal with a
lot more injuries, including at the quarterback position, so you
(11:49):
vote for that at the end of the season. So
I would say that if the forty nine Ers end
up as the number one seed, which means to see
loss at least one of the next two games. But
if the forty nine Ers end up as the number
one seed, given everything that they've had to deal with
with injuries, Kyle Shanahan would be your NFC guy. And
(12:10):
then you say, well, what about Verbel at New England?
Now he has not had to deal with He's got
a number three overall quarterback in Drake May that is
coming into his own but the substantial gain from a
year ago is just too much to ignore. So I
would say that probably probably Vrabel, you know, Sean Payton, uh,
(12:37):
you know, would be in consideration. But I think it
would come down to Shanahan versus Verbel right now as today,
given that San Francisco is the number six seed and
ten to four, I'd probably say Verybel one Shanahan two. Yeah,
but that that could change.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Right, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I think Liam Cohen is probably trying to make a
little bit of a run two and Jackson.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yes, he discussed him earlier Lwrence or Lawrence.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah, I mean there are only one game behind New England.
So anything that you say about about New England, you
could say about Jacksonville, right, yep y, But New England
was even further down and you got a younger quarterback.
I mean, if you wanted to really just like parse
out all these elements, I think Rabel would be a
(13:21):
little bit more worthy of Liam Colm. But absolutely Colin
should get a lot of consideration.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Right, all right, Well, I got one more for coach
Breedlove and and you know you've been a giant fan
of DK Metcalf and what he brings to the table. Obviously,
you know, probably a little irritated and the fact that
he's gone, and the fact that he never really was
used the way that that coach Breedlove and coach Hugh
(13:47):
Millan would have used him. And yet he got kind
of caught up in an ugly situation. Who knows what
was said at this point in time, but apparently somebody
a fan of the opposing team ends up last night
during the line Steelers game. He ends up kind of
looks like he's kind of grabbing him, maybe holding on
to his shirt or something and then takes a little
bit of a swipe. I don't know if he hits
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him or not. I would imagine that that guy sees
dollar signs at this point in time, he's gonna say
that he hit him. But I mean to me, as
a former athlete, you, as a former athlete, there's got
to be a line, and the line has stopped somewhere
short of putting your hands on somebody, regardless of what
they say. And that sucks to say, but it's kind
of part of your job. You're gonna get you're gonna
(14:28):
get heckled. He doesn't handle that very well. But this
is the ugliest incident. What does a coach Breedlove think
about the DK situation?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Well, more or less what you just articulated, there's exactly
zero tolerance or excuse or any kind of rationalizing a
way what he did. It's it's intolerable. It is a
very poor look on him. Primarily it's a poor look
(14:59):
on this Steelers. It's a poor look on the NFL.
Uh there's no place for it none. There's no excusing,
you know, talking to a buddy, Well, apparently uh DK
said that somebody used the N word. If that's true.
That is very unfortunate. You know, in twenty twenty five
(15:22):
that any any person could you know, a white person
could use that word to a black person, you know,
but that still would not excuse you're a professional athlete,
because you know what if you were, if you say,
well that that gives a guy a reason to punch
a fan, then we're gonna be have having played and
(15:46):
now all of a sudden, idiots are going to incite
players to punch, you know, and then they get suspended,
and you know, get it. Oh, let me let me
see if I can suspend you know, Davante Adams. You know,
we're playing the Rams, you know, and then a fan
could do that boom, and then and then a guy
(16:08):
takes a swipe at him. So no, there's no there's
nothing I can say. There's no qualifiers. It's an absolute
horrendous look. Yes, and and totally unexcusable and unforgivable. I
got nothing, no word in his defense whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, I don't. I don't either. I'm with you. It sucks.
There's times.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I mean, obviously I never had anything that would resemble
that if somebody used the N word.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I never had anything like that.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
But again, you know, we can started this segment talking
about how you know, childhood at times wasn't all that
fun for a little redheaded, freckle faced kid with a
name that you know rhymes with the F word. And
yet once I got to professional sports, and I was
a pretty easy target for the opposing fans, right, the
biggest guy out there. I was bald, I'm fallically challenged,
(16:59):
So there's that easy one that they would just say, oh,
you're you're too fat to play baseball. I enjoyed it, actually,
I actually kind of ate it up. I would actually
turn and yeah and start having a conversation with him, right,
And then if you got to do what I wanted
to do, which was go yard, then I would come
back and be like, did you enjoy that? Was that
was that fun for you? Like I would kind of
(17:21):
eat it up a little bit. I turned opposing fans
sections into like my cheering section by handling it the
right way. In my opinion, this is not the right way.
But and now he's gonna get fine. But let's try
to spend it. Let's straw a distinction there.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
And I know you're not saying this, but let's let's
just make sure we're drawn as a distinction. You getting
teased for your name or being freckled is at a
different level than a black person in America being called
a funderboard, right, Like, you have to have early middle
school education to understand the magnitude of that. So you
(18:03):
know that that fan uh if he said that, it's
a disgrace, But you know what, DK got to be
above it.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Or if you can't wear a professional uniform. And by
the way, you punched a guy wearing a blue wig,
that didn't get you any freaking tough guy points on
any scale.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Right, Well, maybe maybe that's what started it. Maybe he
said my blue hair looks better than your blue hair.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Maybe maybe that's maybe that's triggered him.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
If so, DK triggered for less.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Well that's the the whole idea of not being able
to control yourself. I agree, there's nothing about what I
got hazed or heckled that comes close to anything like
that that. You're right, that is just plain and simple
on all levels.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I'm just responding to, you know, possible speculator like, I'm
not saying that as fact. I hope I said if indeed,
worst like The most charitable you could be for DK
is if you want, if you like, if somebody said
pistol to your head, you got to somehow, in the
court of a public opinion, diffuse what DK Metcalf did. Well,
(19:16):
if you were charged with that task, you'd say, well,
they called him the N word, and you know what,
that is justifiably incendiary and inflammatory and and it should
shock everybody if that happened. And yet even still, yeah,
I'd say that is not an excuse for what he did.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah, No, I'm with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
It can make you want to punch somebody and then
you have to go can I certain times, No, there's
there's times that I.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Chose to play.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
You chose to play a team sport. You didn't play golf,
you didn't play tennis, you didn't wrestle. You played a
team sport. You have an obligation to your teammates. Tigers
are badass and lions are badass. But there's a difference.
Tigers live and dwell solo. Lions are part of a pride.
(20:09):
They have to fit into a social structure. When you
play football, you're a lion, not a tiger.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah, right on, well said all right.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
On the other side, I want to get Hugh and
try to get Ashley in on this one as well.
We're going to try to figure out what your favorite
thing and least favorite thing about the Seahawks is right
now on Sports Radio ninety three point three KGRFM. Tease
this as kind of wanting to get to what is
your favorite thing?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Right?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I mean, you're this time of year, you got the holidays,
should be a kind of a positive situation, and yet
I don't necessarily want to leave it at just that,
So I'll just go cut and dry. What's your favorite
or most pressing issue with the Seahawks at this point
when you've watched them play.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
The entire season up to this point, and what's your.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
What's your your favorite thing I suppose you'd say about
watching this team?
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Uh, most pressing is the offensive line. Okay, I think
particularly on the inside of the offensive line. Uh, you know,
I think sometimes the center gets trucked. I think he's
a really good athlete, but I think he's got power issues.
I said, you know, and in one of those uh
one of those superstars competition, I think he would win
(21:23):
the obstacle course race against other NFL centers, but he
would lose the keg toss over the pole vault bar
got me and and so that that just is the
you know, going to continue to be the the I
don't know anchor if you will, of the team until
we see otherwise does.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
That effect Do you dislike that more because of the
way in which it affects a run game or do
you dislike it more because of the disruption that it?
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Great question in the passing game?
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Great question.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I think that they have been kind of equal opportunity,
you know, restricts in both capacities and and it generally
when they have a most of the time, if they
have a bad game in one phase, they're also having
a bad game in the other phase. There's very few
(22:18):
few games where you say, oh wow.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
They protect great, but they were horrible and run blocking
or vice versa.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
So yeahs As for I was just going to say,
I mean, I'm I'm with you on that, and yet
I don't. To me, it's the it's the idea of obviously,
how is it, how does how does it negative if
negatively affect you the most? Where it's like we see
at times when they can just create a little bit
(22:46):
of a seam. We saw it on Thursday, and all
of a sudden, ken Walker can hit that thing, or
even Zach Charmoney when he's going to get his touches,
because they're not going to just go thirty thirty carries
for ken Walker. As much as a lot of people
wish they would that he's getting four or five six yards,
that he's kind of running tough even though he can't
take it.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
To the house.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah, and yet the idea of getting blown up, which
we have seen Sundell or even Oluwa Timmy when he
was in there get blown up. And now that guy's
there's two big, you know, massive humans right in Darnold's face.
If he can you know, get out of the pocket
and get out of the way, then okay, he can
make the throws on the run. If he tries to
make it there, then we've seen that oftentimes land in
(23:25):
the in the belly of an opponent.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
So yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I would say that my thing that I dislike the
most is just that interior offensive line where it feels like, boy,
this is a volatile place that you don't want either way,
whether you're running or passing right there. So how about
pleasant things, things that you like the most, about what
you're seeing so far.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Well, I think there's five phases of a team roughly,
I think how you run it, how you throw it,
how you defend the run, how you defend the pass,
and special teams. I think they're all about twenty percent.
And I think that what the Seahawks do best of
those five if you can see that for this discussion,
stopping the run is the best thing that they do.
The football team does they you know, for the season
(24:09):
wide and you know they have a great way that
they build a wall. There's you know, Byron Murphy, when
I say build a wall, let me explain what I mean.
There's there's terms, three terms types of defensive line play
you can have. You can be a one gap, penetrating
defensive line that just like Tampa Bay in two thousand
(24:31):
and two they won a Super Bowl and they were like, hey,
just get up field. And then you can have two
a two gapping defensive line where they're not trying to penetrate,
they're trying to hold up the offensive lineman and then
as the name implies, be able to respond to the
inside gap or the outside gap and then allow you
(24:53):
know linebackers to flow and make tackles. The Seahawks are
more the latter, but really a gap and a half.
They'll they'll they'll they'll go into gap, but they won't
try and penetrate. They won't try and get be disruptive
into the backfield. They'll just hold their They'll get into
that gap and hold the ground at the lion of scrimmage.
(25:14):
And they're trying to force the running back to spill
the play to the outside where then they can flow
inside out on it. And and so their schematics and
with Leonard Williams and Byron Murphy, I I when I
watch the tape, you know, and you watch on offensive
line play by defensive line play, by the end zone copy.
(25:36):
That's how the players watch it. And so Monday morning
I watched the All twenty two for the passing game,
and but then offensive line play I watch on the
end zone copy.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
And it takes a lot of strength to be a
Sea Ok defensive lineman. I mean you gotta just anchor
to I mean, every freaking play is just you know,
you're wrestling, you know, a full grown elk, you know,
on every freaking play, and and you know it's like, damn,
that takes a lot of strength to do what they do,
(26:09):
and so you got to be young and virile and
and have a rotation. But they've been able to do
it schematically and they got the parts to do it.
So yeah, stop, there's my answer to your question how
they stop the run because that that sets up you know,
it's like it's like being a pitcher, you know, in
one or even an you know you're trying to get
(26:31):
to an O two count.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
You know, third and long is in an O two count.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Right, like you you play the percentages out right, you know,
and you know the defenses. You know, picture's gonna win
on O two counts if you just got to get there, right,
you're gonna win on third and long defensively, you just
got to get there. So first and first down, if
you're successful like they've been, you create the long longer
(26:54):
yard is on third down the number.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Are you gonna occasionally give up some third nines and third?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Uh, Matthew Stafford ripped you for a third and nine
early in the third quarter, right after K nine scored
that it was exactly third and nine, and so you're
gonna give up some of them, just like you're gonna
give up an O two, you know, double in the gap.
But you like your percentages. You can get to as
many O twos. You like your percentages, you get to
as many third and longs, and you do that by
(27:20):
stopping the run.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Although there's one of the more demoralizing things when you
do well on first and second down and you create
third and long and then they can they convert it. That's,
first of all, a lot of the Broncos game. The
next play, Mine would probably just be JSN, even though
I like, I wouldn't take much to be talked into,
you know, your where your head's at as well, but
(27:42):
just JSN, just that we saw him last year, you know,
had kind of a breakout season and a good year
and yet to jump from where he was last year,
his first year to this year. I don't know for
sure if many people saw that coming. It's been a
pretty pleasant surprise.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I would say, well, yeah, if you're talking individuals, I
was kind of talking more phases, but yeah, we can
coexist on these opinions, right, And you know, look, JSN,
I don't have the numbers in front of me, but
he had been overwhelmingly a slot receiver at Ohio State
(28:18):
and then his first couple of years in the NFL. This,
in my opinion, is a big deal about if you're
going to talk about JSN, I don't think you can
tell the story of JSN in twenty twenty five without
discussing this fact. He's always been a slot receiver and
now he's private predominant almost by a two to one
racial he's an outside receiver. It's a different skill set.
In the slot, you're using more moxie and football intelligence,
(28:42):
and hey do I idle down in between these linebackers.
Where outside you're going against the defense's best athlete, those corners,
and you've just got to find a way with your
skill set and your technique to create separation. I thought
that was a potential concern about his game because he
(29:03):
hadn't proven it on any consistent basis. Well, you know,
you can wad those concerns up and throw him in
the garbage scan. I mean, he's just he's showing what
a complete receiver he is and he's going to be
first team All Pro and and he did and.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
He deserves it.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
And what a humble guy too, Like the game that
what what game did he that they almost got nothing.
I'd have to look at the game log, but but
he had just this total whatever you think of a
Prima Donna wide receiver, he was anti Prima Donna. And
so he's show like, I don't know, I can't imagine
(29:39):
anybody in this city not adoring this guy.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Very good app Okay, yeah, yes, comparison there.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I mean, just just humility.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
It's ok while you're kicking everybody's ass.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
As a matter of fact, it's it's quite enjoyable for
a face.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
And then our favorite athletes, it's mine.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Some people like the Bravado. It's just not my cup
of tea. So all right, well we got one last
thing coming up after this. Stick around here at Sports
Radio ninety three point three KJRFM, Welcome back to the
show Chuck Buck in the Morning with Ashley Ryan.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
By the way, Ashley, I don't know, have you ever
watched ink Master?
Speaker 6 (30:29):
No?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
I am not.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Well there's a gallon there.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
She won ink Master one time and her name is
Ryan Ashley, And it's one of our kind of just
like zone out that you don't have to think about it.
TV shows will watch every once along when every time
I see her, I think of you because her name's
Ryan Ashley.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
You're like, oh, she's almost got the best name ever.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
But it's backwards.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yep, exactly. Well, today has been a day without Chuck.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
He's getting a couple of days off leading into Christmas,
even Christmas Day, and yet we got the pleasure of
having Hugh Milling in for us to help kind of
break some stuff down and great, great work as usual.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Hugh.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Do you got a one last thing for us? Thank
you for the nice words. Yeah, you know, we've been
on four hours. The words Sam Donald have not come
out of our mouths. And I just want to dwell
on some numbers here for a second. Sam Donald as
(31:22):
tied for the highest win percentage this year twenty twenty
five with Bo Nicks, who we're talking about quarterback win percentage.
If you go over the last two seasons, Sam Donald
is number one in the NFL over the last two seasons.
And you say, well, that does that count playoffs either way?
You want to do just regular season, he's number one.
(31:43):
You want to do playoffs, he's number one. And in fact,
you go back to his career really changed On November
twenty seventh, twenty twenty two, that was the first time
he had sat. He watched eleven games as a Carolina Panther.
Where you're playing this week obviously, and then he had
six starts started for a game for San Francisco, Minnesota
(32:08):
and Seattle. So this so since twenty twenty two, those
these four seasons, that's Sam Donald with four different coaches,
four different offensive systems, four different set of receivers to
with whom to acquire cohesion. I'm gonna give you that
(32:28):
the I'm gonna go Letterman style real quick. These are
the win percentages over the last since twenty twenty two.
Matthew Stafford number ten, Joe Burrow number nine, then Rock Purdy,
Jared Goff, Mar Jackson six, Boon Nicks five, Patrick Mahomes four,
Josh Allen three, Jalen Hurts two, Sam Donald number one
(32:50):
and he now, let's just go back to this year
as a Seahawk number one in the NFL and twenty
plus yards play percent number one in the NFL, and
net yards per ten number one in the NFL. Yards
per attempt number one in percentage of his passes that
are fifteen yards or more completions over fifty yards, like, look,
(33:11):
there are better quarterbacks in the NFL, but this guy's
having a hell of a season. He's become a damn
good quarterback. And I hope we just can get behind
him when there's a little bit of a struggle for
a series or two in the first half, and you know,
kind of help along the way. Maybe that's an old
fashioned thought, but you know, the guy kind of deserves
(33:33):
to be like, hey, just let's let's let him do
his job.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah, I'm with you one hundred percent. I think he's
definitely been better than what was here just recently before,
and so he needs a little bit of grace when
he actually isn't perfect.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Asked you got one last day? I do.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
I just think one of the one of the things
that has really sucked about the way that college football
has gone is the basically the what's happened with the rivalries?
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Right?
Speaker 5 (33:58):
A lot of the rivalries aren't the same. Look at
the Apple Cup, that's not the same anymore. One of
the things that at least was still intact was USC
Notre Dame, and now it looks like that is actually
going to be coming to an end. USC and Notre Dame.
They're saying, according to Ross Ellinger of Yahoo, that it'll
end next year and Notre Dame is finalizing a two
year deal with BYU instead.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
I just think that's sad.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
That's like been one of the gems about college football
is the rival reason. If you take them away, that's
just a sad place to be.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
I couldn't say it any better. Have you said it
very succinctly. I completely concur I think it's brutal.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah, yep, I agree. I agree.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I always like beating up on Oregon State. It is
something fun and hopefully it never goes away.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
Hopefully for you it never goes to.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yeah, hopefully even those rodents.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Anyways, Well, anyway, Hugh, I wasn't lying, man, Thanks for
jumping on here.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
It's easy doing the show with you.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
It is like just sitting out on the patio and
chopping it up and talking about some sports. So hopefully
the listeners enjoyed it. I enjoyed it, so thank you man.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
That catch you.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
The pleasure was mine. Merry Christmas to both of you,
thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Merry Christmas to you too.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
To Mia, Shelley said hello and give the give the
boys some knuckles for me and Merry Christmas, doll.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
All right, Merry Christmas to everybody.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Ash thank you very much for hanging in there with me,
and we will be back tomorrow one more show before
we head off for our Christmas vacation. Up next, we
got MJ in the midday and I think Ashley Ryan correct,
all right, kid gets the day off because Ashley is
a saint. All right, Everybody stick around here. You got
(35:35):
MJ and Ash up next. Sports Radio ninety three point
three KJR FM
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