December 26, 2025 • 34 mins
Headlines and 12th Man news with GREGG BELL (Tacoma News Tribune) The Seahawks travel to Carolina after practice today as they prepare for a matchup with the Panthers on Sunday. They need this win if they want a chance at the Division title and the #1 seed in the NFC, so what will it take for them to get the job done? Injury updates from Greg and the key to the game for the Hawks. :30- The NFL takeover continued on Christmas Day as they had three games on two platforms. Is it too much? Can they just let other leagues have their time? :45- The Seahawks face the Panthers on Sunday and we have one pressing question- are the Panthers any good?
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
Detroit keeps the football with two fifty nine reminting and
it's fourth and forever.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Chuck Ashley with you. Merry Christmas to you all up.
You had a great holiday. We gather here on a
football Friday to get you ready for a football weekend.
Greg Bell's gonna join us here in about two minutes,
our Seahawks insider, as we discussed the Carolina Panthers matchup
with him here on this Friday. Hugh Milan will be
with us. Mike Sando will be with us later on
the show today as well. We'll have your Friday Ohoe
(01:07):
and more, and we of course have headlines to start
the seven o'clock hour, brought to you by Frost Brewed Corps,
Light Choose Chill. Netflix was the home for two NFL
games on Christmas Day. The Dallas Cowboys defeated the Washington
Commanders thirty to twenty three, and then the Vikings twenty
three to ten winners over the Detroit Lions, who committed
(01:27):
six turnovers in a game that eliminated them from any
possibility of making the playoffs. The Denver Broncos as of
this moment have the best record in the National Football
League at thirteen and three. They defeated the Kansas City
Chiefs twenty to thirteen the final score last night. The
Seahawks can match them with the best record in the
(01:48):
NFL with a win on Sunday against the Carolina Panthers.
Kickoff there at ten o'clock. More on that with Greg
as I mentioned coming up in a minute. NFL Week
number seventeen continues to Sunday all sorts of playoff implications
everywhere you look. Jacksonville at Indianapolis, the Colts still barely
alive for their playoff shot, and man Liam Cohen might
(02:10):
end up being the coach of the Year over Mike
McDonald with what he's done in changing not only the
trajectory of the team but also the culture there in
a very short period of time. Jaguars are man. They're
playing as well as anybody in the NFL right now.
Philadelphia at Buffalo will be the most interesting afternoon game
on Sunday and then the night game which will be
(02:33):
interested in the Chicago Bears at San Francisco taking on
the forty nine ers. Believe it or not, the Carolina
Panthers have a chance to wrap up the division this weekend,
where the Seahawks might not. That seems weird.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
It does seem very weird.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, college football looks like Michigan is closing in on
its brand new head coach, Kyle Whittingham. Of all people,
it was just terrific at Utah, but he was retiring
from the game right. Only one thing could bring him back,
and that's that Michigan job. Looks like that's the scenario
that's unfolding before us here on this Football Friday, as
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Michigan and Kyle Whittingham are working on a deal for
him to be the next head coach. College football playoff
resumes on New Year's Eve. Denzel Boston, since last we
spoke no surprise here, has decided to leave Washington and
enter the NFL Draft, where he's expected to be a
first round draft pick. They're kracking, man, just when you
left them for dead. They've won three straight games despite
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being the most injured they've been all season long. They'll
next play Sunday against the Philadelphia Flyers. All right, let's
talk to Greg Bell.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
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Speaker 1 (03:58):
Now with twelfth Man Nude, here's Great Bell with Chuck
and Butt.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Good morning Greg, Good morning Mary. Late Christmas have been
everybody listening?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, how did your holiday go? The last couple of days? Here?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Oh fantastic. The whole family back together, all four of us,
nice traditions back in. It was really really rewarding.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah, you all cracked open some uh Francis Ford Coppola
Prosecco to celebrate the holiday.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I didn't. I need to get down.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
There are disappearing, one by one.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I totally blew it last week on the round table.
I was planning on going in and I said, no,
that's where I want to go in.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah. Yeah, well all right, well we'll get it to
you eventually and you'll never have to miss another celebration
without your.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Oral drink it all and tell you how.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
It on. I need to get down there. You have
the best thing about my Christmas was for me anyway.
I didn't watch one second of one football game. It
was just a total Yeah, this is a vacation.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I didn't watch any either. I wouldn't say it was
the best part, but yeah, I didn't watch any of
it either. It's just it, it just feels kind of
Cheesy's like, first of all, you're already, you know, kind
of the NBA's kind of cornered the market on this day,
and so you're trying to steal all of their audience. Fine,
all's fair in businesses war. But then you're sitting here
with you know, everybody having just tapped out the afford presence,
(05:30):
and you're saying, if you want to watch football today,
got to buy two streaming services. I just don't nothing
about it. Feels good to me, Greg that they're playing
tripleheader on Christmas these days.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Yeah, I guess the only think, Yeah, I agree. The
only thing better for me not watching NBA or in
the NFL is I didn't have to watch the NBA again.
Get another day of my life.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I didn't watch all right, So you've made it very
clearly you spend time with family. I get it.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
All right.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Well, Ashley and I've been talking about this all morning long,
and I would imagine Earn Bucky were talking about it
back on Monday and Tuesday and probably with their families
on Wednesday and Thursday. This Carolina team is just weird.
I mean, there is nothing consistent about them. There's nothing
that they really do all that well. They've been outscored
by fifty points combined this season. They've got bad losses,
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they've got weird impressive wins, and yet they're the team
with a better shot at clinching a division than the
Seahawks on Sunday. So is Mike McDonald preparing everyone for
the weirdness of the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
The Seahorks are at the point where it really is
about them. And it was even true now less true
of the Rams last week because there were certain things defensively, especially,
they had to do and prepare for for Sean mcvay's offense,
and they didn't do any of it very well defensively
five and eighty Wine Yards. But when you talk to
about opponents these days, they say, we really are focused
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inward about us, and if we don't fix the things
we need to fix, it doesn't matter who we play.
We're not gonna play well when we do the things
like third down conversions and red zone and stop the
run the fourth long third downs, which was a difference
in the fourth quarter against there. So they do those things,
it doesn't matter who they're playing. The couple times I've
seen Carolina, it reminds me that they get six games
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inside the NFC South every year, and this year and
especially six games inside the NFLFC South are pretty easy games.
And now that's including Tampa, who of course came into
Seattle and ripped the Seahawks for thirty eight points. But
that Tampa team that came to Seattle was playing against
four the series. We are missing four starters on defense,
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which is a big part of that game. But they
have the Panthers have the Seahawks attention. Yes, this isn't
a layup week where they just think, oh, we beat
the Rams and this is gonna be easy. Yes, they're
on the road against the team that if the Seahawks
lose on the next two games, they may be right
back in Charlotte in three weeks or now two weeks
when the playoffs begin. So there is no overlooking here.
(08:08):
It's not that there is, though a chance because it's
a ten am game on a holiday week. They took Thursday.
They didn't practice yesterday, which is very unconventional in a
sport where they're very used to their Sunday to Sunday schedule.
I think there is a chance they start slowly in
Charlotte on Sunday. They're gonna leave today after practice. It's
just a different week. It's a little off week. Ever
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since the Rams win, it's been different. And Bryce Younger
quarterback is another one of those quarterbacks who can get
outside the pocket, who can extend plays, an athletic quarterback
who have They've given the Seahawks trouble. As good as
the Seahawks pass USU has been, they still do lose
contain at times, and that can also be a big concern.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
On Sunday, Greg Bell is with us R Sawks inside.
You can follow them at g BEL Seattle and of
course complete Seahawks coverage at Thenewstribune dot com. All right, so,
injury wise, how are the Seahawks looking for Sunday.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Rik Willen is back to practice fully and it looks
like he's not even gonna be on the injured list
it comes out today, so that's good news for the
death of the secondary, except Kobe Bryant hasn't practiced this week. Again,
they didn't practice yesterday. The NFL requires him to put
out an injury report anyway, so it was an estimation.
It has estimated. The Seahawks estimated again that Kobe Bryant
(09:29):
had safety with the knee and the hamstring injury from
Charles cross is starting left tackle. Both of them didn't
practice this week yet it looks like they won't play again,
so that means probably Tyle kotat safety because Kuandrid Diggs
is injured and in fact been allowed to the team
to go home on weekends. He's not going to go
to the game and Charlotte's going to go back to
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Texas with his family during the holidays because on the
practice squad anyway, and he's not he's injured. The one
game he's played with the Seahawks when he first got here,
he got hurt playing special and he's not available at
safety either. And Tylecotta has played well, so it would
be a somewhat of a different role for Okata, who
was playing for Julian Love now he'd be playing for
(10:09):
Kobe Bryant. They are interchangeable at safety, but if there
was more of a strong safety Brian often plays down
a little bit more nicky mon Warrior of course, makes
all the safety's roles interchangeable anyway. Josh Jones, the Seahawks
are really impressed with how he played against the Rams.
That's why they signed him. The veteran a half dozen
(10:32):
seasons in the league for three or four different teams,
has played both left and right side, and he did
it left and right side in consecutive weeks. He replays
Dave Lucas when Lucas missed a few snaps in the
Colts game, and then he starts to left tackle for Cross.
Leave mentioned this hamstring injury, especially this time of year,
in this time of the season, it's tough and sometimes
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multiple weeks to come back for It. Wouldn't surprise me
if they really are trying out to keep the Cross
ready for the playoffs. They aren't saying that, But as
important as these two games are for seeding, I think
it's more important than Charles Cross gets almost a full
month off before the playoffs to see if they're starting
left tackle can play.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
They sure are making a big deal about Robert Hunt,
the guard right guard for the Carolina Panthers, his window.
He's been on the ir almost all season long. This
is their best offensive lineman. They've opened up the window,
and all the articles about it are this improves the Panthers'
chances of getting into the playoffs. But they just opened
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up the window. I mean, I don't know if you're
hearing anything about Carolina and Robert Hunt, but is he
going to be ready to play? Is there a chance
that their offensive line is going to be that much
better this Sunday after having sat all season long, and
you just did open his window here two games shy
of the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
No, I haven't heard anything about. Nobody that talked to
Can knows that he's going to play or not. But
it would be tough, I would think. And the purpose
for the three week window is two ramp guys up,
especially missed four months, and the fact that Carolina is
trying to get into the playoffs, like you said, and
their game up on Tampa Bay with two to play.
(12:17):
They play the Buccaneers next week in Tampa, which I
think no matter what happens, if Tampa wins on Sunday,
it doesn't matter what Carolina Panthers do, they still have
to be Tampa Bay next week.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
So I wouldn't think they're gonna rush a guy out
who hasn't played for four months to play against the
Seahawks on Sunday knowing theyre going to have an NFC
in South Championship game the following week.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, and then who knows how effective he might be.
But it certainly is all the talk going on in
Carolina right now. Greg bellis with US Seahawks Insider, getting
you ready for the Seahawks and the Carolina Panthers on Sunday.
And you know, we do this no cliche key to
victory every week, Bucky and myself. And this is the
(13:02):
most difficult time I've had trying to come up with
something because Carolina is just so weird. Craig, So, I
don't know if you struggled with the same thing, what
would you call the key to this game on Sunday
for the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Well, Chuck, it's like any other game. The Seahawks are
more talented than this team. They should beat him. They
have a better roster, they're coaching their schemes. They should
win this game. So don't turn the ball over and
let the team get back in it. The turnovers are
the great equalizer in football, and when you don't turn
it over, the better team wins. That's almost always the case,
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home or away weather conditions, playoff, regular season. If you
don't turn the ball over, the better team almost always wins.
And that's the turnover margins stat in football is so telling.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
It's almost always the team with the turnovers loses, not
every time, but the better team is usually will win
if as long as you don't have the mitigating factor
of turnovers.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
And the Seahawks again have a quarterback who leads the
league in turnovers. Now I know he's in better over
the last few games, but that's still the issue for
this team to me. As long as they aren't derailed
by giving the ball away, they will beat teams they're
better than. And I think that's gonna be the case
on Sunday. Let's see, the weather's supposed to be no
precipitation about sixty degrees last night checked in Charlotte, so
(14:27):
that should not be a factor. No win that I saw.
It's a downtown stadium, that's a complete bowl. It's usually
not winding there. Anyway. Let's see if the Seahawks just
play a clean game, and if they do, I think
they win.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I'm looking at your photo from Christmas Eve. That is
one impressive plate of food you've got there. What was
the best thing on that plate of food? What was
the best thing that you had to eat there? And
who made it?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Well?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I made I make a homemade risotto. Well, so we
went down to Jacks down at the Market and Pike
placing some fresh king salmon right off the boat. So
and a friend of mine had a roast and there's
a lot of salad buried beneath it. But yeah, we
had custom salad. My wife's vegetarians, so we had a
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lot of alternatives to meet. And yeah, it was a
feast to say the least. We had fifteen people in here,
and it was a family tradition. We bring three or
four families. The kids have been together since they were
in pre school and we've been doing it since preschool
and now they're all grown up, post college, early adults,
and it's thanks for messing because it's a good memory.
(15:36):
It's a great tradition we have all I'm.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Good enough, all right, I probably should ask you about
this before we wrap things up. Derek Hall not going
to play on Sunday. What does that mean to the
football team?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah, he's not only not plays. When you're suspended in
the season, you got to go right away from the facility.
You can't be around at all. Mike McDonald said he
was really surprised actually that they've suspended him. The appeal
was that he was getting rolled up on from behind,
and he was trying to avoid an injury and get
away from that, and he lost his balance and fell
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on and stepped on the guy who's trying to step
over him. The NFL didn't buy it. The optics of
it didn't look great, which is why he gets suspended.
The NFL, by the way, is really acting more swiftly
here the last month or so in suspending guys. I
mean DK mcguth got suspended a day after it happened,
so that Derek Hall, the jurisprudence usually takes a few
more days or five days. At the end of the week,
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they're missing an ADG dresser who plays in rundowns, and
as though although Derek Hall's numbers have not been there,
he isn't every down type of guy. Now again, Nicki
min Worri playing outside linebacker and everywhere. He'll probably be
able to more of an outside linebacker on set Sunday
because Hall isn't in there. But as much as people say,
what's Derek Hall done, He's played all situations for this team.
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And I know Mike Dhal really likes his aggressiveness and
his mentality. He's just a dog on games. I mean,
he's a bad dude once the games start, and they
will miss that, the mentality of him on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
All right, well when do you when do you leave?
When do you fly out?
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Six six am tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (17:15):
And then trying to race back Sunday night to get
home so I can rejoin my family. That's gonna be
a tough trick postgame North Carolina in the same game, okay,
game day, But.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
All right, Well, save travels, enjoy the weekend, and hopefully
we'll chat with you on Monday.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
All right, happy week I'll be home by Monday, so
happy weekend.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Than great guy, Thanks Greg, Greg bell Our Seahawks in
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end up drinking any alcohol yesterday. Really for some reason,
I just was like, I don't feel it today.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
We took over for you. Don't worry.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Oh good good. I'm glad somebody out I'm glad somebody
out there picked up the slack. I was worried about it.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
I do have one more bottle of Copola Prosecco that
is going to be open because Sunday is a brunch game, right,
a ten am game? You have brunch. It's the holiday season,
so you gotta have some prosecco while you're watching the
Seahawks while you're eating brunch?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Do you mimosa it up?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
No?
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Not with that? No, no, no, okay, straight, okay, maybe
a drop of orange juice. Okay, that's it.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah, well, coming up next on the radio program NFL
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of want Christmas start all over again hearing this.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
I don't blame you.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
By the way. We're really pushing the fencing, aren't we
here at the Ieheart.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Seem's a big deal. I don't think it's as big
of a deal as PayPal as these days, but it's
a pretty big deal.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Yeah. Yeah, Well you can always, you know, buy your
fencing equipment.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
That's true, you can do that, you can.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
So I want to sport the sponsors. It's been fencing
really and really going all in on fencingly.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Yeah, there's apparently like different ways to do it too.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, big push, big push going on.
I think it's an Olympic here community thing.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
If it's a country thing, I don't know. But there
just seems like, you know, one place, they say that
we got in the habit of drinking milk, even though
it never really was good for us, because the milk
people spent so much money, yeah, to buy our government's
stamp of approval. That's what i've heard. That's what i've heard.
(20:22):
That's a little bit of a scuttle butt out there,
and so maybe that's what maybe fencing's done that I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Or maybe it's like you know, what we're we know
in the future, we're going back towards more swordsmanship when
we maybe when we fight. So we got to start
early and see who are swordsmen could be to.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
I wasn't sitting around, Let's put it this way. I
wasn't sitting around in my days just with my free
time going Man, why didn't fencing get more? What happened?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
What happened to the idea of fencing?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, why aren't we doing more of that? There aren't
enough fencing clubs open. But it's I'm glad to see
that there's a push.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Yeah, no, it's happening.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I'm happy for the fencing people.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
It is happening.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
What I'm trying to say, I think that fighting people
with skinny swords is awesome.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
And don't forget you can pay your own way.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Uh well, yesterday we had plenty of sports action to
watch and plenty of time, plenty of other things to
distract us. Do you have a go to movie, for example,
that you watch on Christmas Day?
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Not usually on Christmas Day because we do usually have
sports on the TV. But like my Christmas movie, I
have to watch every season every year, White Christmas. Okay,
And I don't know why because it is very long,
it's somewhat boring. Yeah, but it's just the idea of
fencing in it. There's no fencing in it at all, actually,
which is sad. And some of the music bothers me.
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But I mean there's wait, it's just tradition, but it's
true and something about the ending of it, like it's
worth it for all of the everything else, for the
snow to fall at the end and sorry spoiler alert,
and the big you know ending will follow the old
man wherever he wants. I don't know all of it.
I just love it. The nostalgia at the.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
End worth all of the boringness. Yeah, just to get
to the very end. Well, I'm a Christmas story guy,
and it pains me.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
To know that you don't.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I've never seen it.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
What you've never seen the movie, which is possible because
it's twenty four to seven loop. But I always catch
something different every single year. It happened again this year.
But I mean, I'm bringing it up because I did
take time to watch that. I really didn't take time
to watch sports. I mean, yeah, I checked out some
just about every NBA game for a little bit, but
(22:40):
the NBA's pretty much told us nothing really matters until
the postseason. Anyway. I'm not one of those NBA fans.
I do enjoy the league, and I do enjoy the sport,
and so I watch quite a bit of basketball. But
I like on Christmas Day, I didn't seem to make
it a priority. Yeah, and yet I will defend it
(23:02):
because they've kind of established that that's their day. It's
been going on all our entire lives. I remember watching
games at Grandma's house, you know, as a little kid
that the NBA was on and and the NFL had
Thanksgiving and there was never a basketball game on the
televisions and Thanksgiving where that was for football. And now
(23:24):
the NFL is just trying to own everything, and I
just I sort of find myself. I mean, obviously we're
all hooked, we're NFL fans that we can't get enough
of it. I'm watching every Thursday, can't wait till Saturday Sunday.
But there is just something like, this is a line
that you've crossed, and I'm not gonna go with you
(23:45):
because you're trying to own every aspect of our lives.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
I think things are going pretty well in FL. I
think you got it going on pretty well right now.
And so why do you have to own every single day,
major function. Hey, this is not your day. And now
you're also on top of it, asking me, asking people,
(24:11):
and this is what you're asking them to do. Don't
tell me, Well, people already got Netflix in prime. No no,
no, no no. You wouldn't be doing it if you, If
those they weren't paying to try to get people just
to buy their streaming services just to watch football. I
think it's tacky. The NFL runs a monstrous, well oiled
(24:32):
machine and I and they fill our entire year with
things to look forward to, including the draft, and you
know how much I'll love draft. But it's like, is
nothing sacred to you? Do you have to own everything?
Do you have to steal from everyone their ideas for marketing?
So I did. I made a point not to watch
any of it yesterday.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Well, and I do. I do kind of love though
that the NFL, in trying to steal everything, had all
of their matchups really kind of suck.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, like that that's karma.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Yeah, and I don't I don't think they should change
their schedule. Like Christmas was on a Thursday, so there
should still be a Thursday night football game.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Fine, but you.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Don't need the other two in the day. I just
don't think you do.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah, I'm with you. Yeah, And if you're not a
basketball fan, you want to watch basketball, But I mean,
I think the holiday should be for family anyway, and
then everything else should be in the background, whether it's
a movie or whether it's a sporting event or whatever
the case may be. I mean, I'm not sitting there
keeping score of NBA games, you know, during Christmas. You know,
(25:34):
even as a kid, it was you know, it was
about your presence and family and fudge and things of
that nature. And it was just sort of a background thing,
kind of went with the fabric of the holiday.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
The NFL doesn't do that for me, and and I
think I'm put off, yeah, trying at every turn to
ruin things that I think are outside of their comfort zone.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Well, and it just seems like in doing it, they
don't have any respect for the other sports organizations. And
that's the sad part because all of these organizations should
want success for all of them, because the more sports
fans you have, the more success for all the sports, right,
and you should have you know, basketball fans who might
be casual football fans and vice versa, and then the
(26:23):
sport grows, right, you get people to kind of glom on,
and the NFL wants not even people to glom on.
They just want people to be immersed. It's like it's
got to be every single moment of every single.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Day, every opportunity, we gotta we got to steal you
away from something else you would be doing so that
you feel forced to watch our product.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Yeah, and then to add on that, you're putting those
two games on Netflix. That's super annoying.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Well, if if they won the ratings war against the NBA,
then man, there's just really nothing any sport can do. No,
You're going to put on three crappy games on Christmas
Day and try to steal from the NBA and try
to steal from family time and try to steal from
everything else, and if you still end up dominating, I mean,
then we are just we've just given.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
In victims of the NFL.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, we have just completely given into the entire process,
and it will just encourage them to take more. So
I'm kind of hoping that the NBA won yesterday. I
doubt that it did, but we'll get the ratings. Maybe
they're already out, But I'm kind of hoping that the
NFL took it on the chin yesterday. And I hope
that those streaming services took it on the chin yesterday,
(27:36):
but I doubt it.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Yeah, it'd be fun, though.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
It would be fun all right, coming up next as
we get ready for our opponent. They've got a chance
to win the division this weekend, and I'm not even
sure if they're good. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM,
(28:07):
you Millen coming dot at nine o'clock Mike Sando is
gonna join us on a Friday our NFL Insider at
nine thirty today and we've got your Friday Oho, your
eight top stories of the day to wrap up the week.
And it has been a long week for me. I
mean he worked at yeah yeah hour, Yes exactly, I
(28:28):
have really put in the hour. Yeah. You this week
almost too all almost too where We're gonna get there,
you are, I'm gonna persevere.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Yeah, because you're strong, I have sticktuitiveness.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah. So we'll get through today
and then they'll get a much deserved couple days off,
thank good. Here this weekend, the Seahawks will be taking
on the Carolina Panthers. More on that coming up with
the Friday OCHO. But this has become a consistent theme
on this show, and that is that, man, you want
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to talk about a strange football team that we're facing
on Sunday. They've got a chance to wrap up their division.
We don't. I mean, there is a scenario that plays
out that, yeah, San Francisco and the Rams losing, we
win in the Division is ours. But the scenarios makes
a lot more sense for Carolina that they can be
(29:27):
division champs with Tampa Bay losing against Miami, and if
they knock off the Seahawks then and they're playing at
the exact same time, they could know in front of
their fans they could win the division against the Seahawks tomorrow.
And there's no chance that we could have that because
the forty nine Ers don't play until Sunday night. The
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Rams don't play until Monday night, so we don't have
that scenario. We're not going to walk off the field
in Carolina on Sunday, even with a win, being division
champions just not going to happen where there is a
chance that Carolina can have that feeling. And it seems strange.
I mean, not only is there a four win gap
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between the two teams, Carolina really doesn't do anything well.
They're not top ten in anything. No, they don't have
a top ten quarterback, they don't have a top ten receiver,
they don't have a top ten running back. I don't
think they have a top ten defender. And yet they've
figured out a way to possibly win the division Sunday
(30:33):
with a win over the Seahawks. I mean, they started
off one to three, They had a three game winning
streak that kind of turned around their fortunes, all against
bad teams Miami, Dallas and the Jets. And ever since that,
they've not even put together back to back wins ever
since that.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
That's back on October nineteenth. October. We've had Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas.
All since that time. Yeah, they've gone three major holidays
since they've won back to back games or suffered back
to back losses. Yeah, they've just alternated wins ever since
Week number seventeen, it's crazy, or week number seven, I
(31:12):
should say. They have good wins. They've beaten the Rams,
they've beaten the Buccaneers in a game they had to have.
They beat the Green Bay Packers by three points. They
beat Atlanta when they were we thought they were good,
by thirty points. And yet they have these terrible losses.
Two losses to the New Orleans Saints. They have been
outscored by fifty points so far this season. First place team.
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That is minus fifty minus. Just to put that into perspective,
the Dolphins are minus fifty two. You know how bad
the Dolphins have been this year. The Chiefs are plus thirty.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Six, and they're not good.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
They're not good at all, and yet that's how statistically
shoddy the Carolina Panthers have been and there's not even
like a rhyme or reason to it. They lost by
twenty nine points to New England, where they held Remandre
Stevenson to just thirty eight yards rushing as the Patriots
(32:13):
leading rusher. But then they lost by thirty one to
Buffalo and James Cook went for two hundred.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
And sixteen just totally makes sense.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
They beat the Falcons by three because Bryce Young threw
for four hundred and forty eight yards, but they also
beat the Falcons by thirty even though we only threw
for one hundred and twenty, Like, yeah, what a weird
ass team we're facing.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
There's no possible way to try to predict what they're
going to come out looking like.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
They're not going to come out good hopefully not, I mean,
but they are certainly better at home. All of those wins,
those good wins that I mapped out all home, every
single one of them were at home. If it's close,
they figure out a way, they figure out the play
to make so if they can and keep it close
at home, despite being a seven point underdog, they've proven
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this year thing beat anybody, including the Los Angeles Rams,
who were flying high at that point in the season.
So they certainly are capable of victory. They're not anyone
to overlook. But it's just hard to predict a path
to victory for them, even though I acknowledge they when
they find when they get a scent of a win,
(33:26):
they're pretty good at getting home. But it's just really
difficult to think that this team could upset us the
way that we're playing right now. And how would they
do that? I mean, who's got the key to this
victory for the Carolina Panthers. Because they're inconsistent at running it,
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they're inconsistent at throwing it. They're inconsistent it's stopping the run.
They're inconsistent at stopping the pass. They're not necessarily exceptional
at special teams like the Seahawks are, but they do
figure out ways to win games. And they're gonna have
everything on the line. They it's their super Bowl the
next couple of weeks. I mean, they're not gonna win
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four straight games in the playoffs and win the super Bowl.
If they win a divisional title, they're gonna view this
as a highly successful season. It's a cigar smoking kind
of Sunday evening, feet on the desk, celebrating all that
we accomplish. Dave Canalist moment. If they can pull this
off on Sunday, Seahawks don't have that. Seahawks are gonna
(34:27):
be like, let's take a shower, get on the plane
and see if the Bears can knock off the forty
nine ers.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
I mean then I would support that.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yeah, yeah, I'll take that too, all right. Friday, Ocho's
next Your eight Top Stories of the day on Sports
Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Course towards the sub line, touchdown, Oh, travel it down
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
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Speaker 1 (00:45):
Chuck Ashley with you. Merry Christmas to you all up.
You had a great holiday. We gather here on a
football Friday to get you ready for a football weekend.
Greg Bell's gonna join us here in about two minutes,
our Seahawks insider, as we discussed the Carolina Panthers matchup
with him here on this Friday. Hugh Milan will be
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three to ten winners over the Detroit Lions, who committed
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six turnovers in a game that eliminated them from any
possibility of making the playoffs. The Denver Broncos as of
this moment have the best record in the National Football
League at thirteen and three. They defeated the Kansas City
Chiefs twenty to thirteen the final score last night. The
Seahawks can match them with the best record in the
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NFL with a win on Sunday against the Carolina Panthers.
Kickoff there at ten o'clock. More on that with Greg
as I mentioned coming up in a minute. NFL Week
number seventeen continues to Sunday all sorts of playoff implications
everywhere you look. Jacksonville at Indianapolis, the Colts still barely
alive for their playoff shot, and man Liam Cohen might
(02:10):
end up being the coach of the Year over Mike
McDonald with what he's done in changing not only the
trajectory of the team but also the culture there in
a very short period of time. Jaguars are man. They're
playing as well as anybody in the NFL right now.
Philadelphia at Buffalo will be the most interesting afternoon game
on Sunday and then the night game which will be
(02:33):
interested in the Chicago Bears at San Francisco taking on
the forty nine ers. Believe it or not, the Carolina
Panthers have a chance to wrap up the division this weekend,
where the Seahawks might not. That seems weird.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
It does seem very weird.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, college football looks like Michigan is closing in on
its brand new head coach, Kyle Whittingham. Of all people,
it was just terrific at Utah, but he was retiring
from the game right. Only one thing could bring him back,
and that's that Michigan job. Looks like that's the scenario
that's unfolding before us here on this Football Friday, as
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Michigan and Kyle Whittingham are working on a deal for
him to be the next head coach. College football playoff
resumes on New Year's Eve. Denzel Boston, since last we
spoke no surprise here, has decided to leave Washington and
enter the NFL Draft, where he's expected to be a
first round draft pick. They're kracking, man, just when you
left them for dead. They've won three straight games despite
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being the most injured they've been all season long. They'll
next play Sunday against the Philadelphia Flyers. All right, let's
talk to Greg Bell.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
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Speaker 1 (03:58):
Now with twelfth Man Nude, here's Great Bell with Chuck
and Butt.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Good morning Greg, Good morning Mary. Late Christmas have been
everybody listening?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, how did your holiday go? The last couple of days? Here?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Oh fantastic. The whole family back together, all four of us,
nice traditions back in. It was really really rewarding.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah, you all cracked open some uh Francis Ford Coppola
Prosecco to celebrate the holiday.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I didn't. I need to get down.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
There are disappearing, one by one.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I totally blew it last week on the round table.
I was planning on going in and I said, no,
that's where I want to go in.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah. Yeah, well all right, well we'll get it to
you eventually and you'll never have to miss another celebration
without your.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Oral drink it all and tell you how.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
It on. I need to get down there. You have
the best thing about my Christmas was for me anyway.
I didn't watch one second of one football game. It
was just a total Yeah, this is a vacation.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I didn't watch any either. I wouldn't say it was
the best part, but yeah, I didn't watch any of
it either. It's just it, it just feels kind of
Cheesy's like, first of all, you're already, you know, kind
of the NBA's kind of cornered the market on this day,
and so you're trying to steal all of their audience. Fine,
all's fair in businesses war. But then you're sitting here
with you know, everybody having just tapped out the afford presence,
(05:30):
and you're saying, if you want to watch football today,
got to buy two streaming services. I just don't nothing
about it. Feels good to me, Greg that they're playing
tripleheader on Christmas these days.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Yeah, I guess the only think, Yeah, I agree. The
only thing better for me not watching NBA or in
the NFL is I didn't have to watch the NBA again.
Get another day of my life.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I didn't watch all right, So you've made it very
clearly you spend time with family. I get it.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
All right.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Well, Ashley and I've been talking about this all morning long,
and I would imagine Earn Bucky were talking about it
back on Monday and Tuesday and probably with their families
on Wednesday and Thursday. This Carolina team is just weird.
I mean, there is nothing consistent about them. There's nothing
that they really do all that well. They've been outscored
by fifty points combined this season. They've got bad losses,
(06:22):
they've got weird impressive wins, and yet they're the team
with a better shot at clinching a division than the
Seahawks on Sunday. So is Mike McDonald preparing everyone for
the weirdness of the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
The Seahorks are at the point where it really is
about them. And it was even true now less true
of the Rams last week because there were certain things defensively, especially,
they had to do and prepare for for Sean mcvay's offense,
and they didn't do any of it very well defensively
five and eighty Wine Yards. But when you talk to
about opponents these days, they say, we really are focused
(07:00):
inward about us, and if we don't fix the things
we need to fix, it doesn't matter who we play.
We're not gonna play well when we do the things
like third down conversions and red zone and stop the
run the fourth long third downs, which was a difference
in the fourth quarter against there. So they do those things,
it doesn't matter who they're playing. The couple times I've
seen Carolina, it reminds me that they get six games
(07:23):
inside the NFC South every year, and this year and
especially six games inside the NFLFC South are pretty easy games.
And now that's including Tampa, who of course came into
Seattle and ripped the Seahawks for thirty eight points. But
that Tampa team that came to Seattle was playing against
four the series. We are missing four starters on defense,
(07:45):
which is a big part of that game. But they
have the Panthers have the Seahawks attention. Yes, this isn't
a layup week where they just think, oh, we beat
the Rams and this is gonna be easy. Yes, they're
on the road against the team that if the Seahawks
lose on the next two games, they may be right
back in Charlotte in three weeks or now two weeks
when the playoffs begin. So there is no overlooking here.
(08:08):
It's not that there is, though a chance because it's
a ten am game on a holiday week. They took Thursday.
They didn't practice yesterday, which is very unconventional in a
sport where they're very used to their Sunday to Sunday schedule.
I think there is a chance they start slowly in
Charlotte on Sunday. They're gonna leave today after practice. It's
just a different week. It's a little off week. Ever
(08:31):
since the Rams win, it's been different. And Bryce Younger
quarterback is another one of those quarterbacks who can get
outside the pocket, who can extend plays, an athletic quarterback
who have They've given the Seahawks trouble. As good as
the Seahawks pass USU has been, they still do lose
contain at times, and that can also be a big concern.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
On Sunday, Greg Bell is with us R Sawks inside.
You can follow them at g BEL Seattle and of
course complete Seahawks coverage at Thenewstribune dot com. All right, so,
injury wise, how are the Seahawks looking for Sunday.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Rik Willen is back to practice fully and it looks
like he's not even gonna be on the injured list
it comes out today, so that's good news for the
death of the secondary, except Kobe Bryant hasn't practiced this week. Again,
they didn't practice yesterday. The NFL requires him to put
out an injury report anyway, so it was an estimation.
It has estimated. The Seahawks estimated again that Kobe Bryant
(09:29):
had safety with the knee and the hamstring injury from
Charles cross is starting left tackle. Both of them didn't
practice this week yet it looks like they won't play again,
so that means probably Tyle kotat safety because Kuandrid Diggs
is injured and in fact been allowed to the team
to go home on weekends. He's not going to go
to the game and Charlotte's going to go back to
(09:49):
Texas with his family during the holidays because on the
practice squad anyway, and he's not he's injured. The one
game he's played with the Seahawks when he first got here,
he got hurt playing special and he's not available at
safety either. And Tylecotta has played well, so it would
be a somewhat of a different role for Okata, who
was playing for Julian Love now he'd be playing for
(10:09):
Kobe Bryant. They are interchangeable at safety, but if there
was more of a strong safety Brian often plays down
a little bit more nicky mon Warrior of course, makes
all the safety's roles interchangeable anyway. Josh Jones, the Seahawks
are really impressed with how he played against the Rams.
That's why they signed him. The veteran a half dozen
(10:32):
seasons in the league for three or four different teams,
has played both left and right side, and he did
it left and right side in consecutive weeks. He replays
Dave Lucas when Lucas missed a few snaps in the
Colts game, and then he starts to left tackle for Cross.
Leave mentioned this hamstring injury, especially this time of year,
in this time of the season, it's tough and sometimes
(10:54):
multiple weeks to come back for It. Wouldn't surprise me
if they really are trying out to keep the Cross
ready for the playoffs. They aren't saying that, But as
important as these two games are for seeding, I think
it's more important than Charles Cross gets almost a full
month off before the playoffs to see if they're starting
left tackle can play.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
They sure are making a big deal about Robert Hunt,
the guard right guard for the Carolina Panthers, his window.
He's been on the ir almost all season long. This
is their best offensive lineman. They've opened up the window,
and all the articles about it are this improves the Panthers'
chances of getting into the playoffs. But they just opened
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up the window. I mean, I don't know if you're
hearing anything about Carolina and Robert Hunt, but is he
going to be ready to play? Is there a chance
that their offensive line is going to be that much
better this Sunday after having sat all season long, and
you just did open his window here two games shy
of the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
No, I haven't heard anything about. Nobody that talked to
Can knows that he's going to play or not. But
it would be tough, I would think. And the purpose
for the three week window is two ramp guys up,
especially missed four months, and the fact that Carolina is
trying to get into the playoffs, like you said, and
their game up on Tampa Bay with two to play.
(12:17):
They play the Buccaneers next week in Tampa, which I
think no matter what happens, if Tampa wins on Sunday,
it doesn't matter what Carolina Panthers do, they still have
to be Tampa Bay next week.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
So I wouldn't think they're gonna rush a guy out
who hasn't played for four months to play against the
Seahawks on Sunday knowing theyre going to have an NFC
in South Championship game the following week.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, and then who knows how effective he might be.
But it certainly is all the talk going on in
Carolina right now. Greg bellis with US Seahawks Insider, getting
you ready for the Seahawks and the Carolina Panthers on Sunday.
And you know, we do this no cliche key to
victory every week, Bucky and myself. And this is the
(13:02):
most difficult time I've had trying to come up with
something because Carolina is just so weird. Craig, So, I
don't know if you struggled with the same thing, what
would you call the key to this game on Sunday
for the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Well, Chuck, it's like any other game. The Seahawks are
more talented than this team. They should beat him. They
have a better roster, they're coaching their schemes. They should
win this game. So don't turn the ball over and
let the team get back in it. The turnovers are
the great equalizer in football, and when you don't turn
it over, the better team wins. That's almost always the case,
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home or away weather conditions, playoff, regular season. If you
don't turn the ball over, the better team almost always wins.
And that's the turnover margins stat in football is so telling.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
It's almost always the team with the turnovers loses, not
every time, but the better team is usually will win
if as long as you don't have the mitigating factor
of turnovers.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
And the Seahawks again have a quarterback who leads the
league in turnovers. Now I know he's in better over
the last few games, but that's still the issue for
this team to me. As long as they aren't derailed
by giving the ball away, they will beat teams they're
better than. And I think that's gonna be the case
on Sunday. Let's see, the weather's supposed to be no
precipitation about sixty degrees last night checked in Charlotte, so
(14:27):
that should not be a factor. No win that I saw.
It's a downtown stadium, that's a complete bowl. It's usually
not winding there. Anyway. Let's see if the Seahawks just
play a clean game, and if they do, I think
they win.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I'm looking at your photo from Christmas Eve. That is
one impressive plate of food you've got there. What was
the best thing on that plate of food? What was
the best thing that you had to eat there? And
who made it?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Well?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
I made I make a homemade risotto. Well, so we
went down to Jacks down at the Market and Pike
placing some fresh king salmon right off the boat. So
and a friend of mine had a roast and there's
a lot of salad buried beneath it. But yeah, we
had custom salad. My wife's vegetarians, so we had a
(15:13):
lot of alternatives to meet. And yeah, it was a
feast to say the least. We had fifteen people in here,
and it was a family tradition. We bring three or
four families. The kids have been together since they were
in pre school and we've been doing it since preschool
and now they're all grown up, post college, early adults,
and it's thanks for messing because it's a good memory.
(15:36):
It's a great tradition we have all I'm.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Good enough, all right, I probably should ask you about
this before we wrap things up. Derek Hall not going
to play on Sunday. What does that mean to the
football team?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah, he's not only not plays. When you're suspended in
the season, you got to go right away from the facility.
You can't be around at all. Mike McDonald said he
was really surprised actually that they've suspended him. The appeal
was that he was getting rolled up on from behind,
and he was trying to avoid an injury and get
away from that, and he lost his balance and fell
(16:11):
on and stepped on the guy who's trying to step
over him. The NFL didn't buy it. The optics of
it didn't look great, which is why he gets suspended.
The NFL, by the way, is really acting more swiftly
here the last month or so in suspending guys. I
mean DK mcguth got suspended a day after it happened,
so that Derek Hall, the jurisprudence usually takes a few
more days or five days. At the end of the week,
(16:33):
they're missing an ADG dresser who plays in rundowns, and
as though although Derek Hall's numbers have not been there,
he isn't every down type of guy. Now again, Nicki
min Worri playing outside linebacker and everywhere. He'll probably be
able to more of an outside linebacker on set Sunday
because Hall isn't in there. But as much as people say,
what's Derek Hall done, He's played all situations for this team.
(16:57):
And I know Mike Dhal really likes his aggressiveness and
his mentality. He's just a dog on games. I mean,
he's a bad dude once the games start, and they
will miss that, the mentality of him on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
All right, well when do you when do you leave?
When do you fly out?
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Six six am tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (17:15):
And then trying to race back Sunday night to get
home so I can rejoin my family. That's gonna be
a tough trick postgame North Carolina in the same game, okay,
game day, But.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
All right, Well, save travels, enjoy the weekend, and hopefully
we'll chat with you on Monday.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
All right, happy week I'll be home by Monday, so
happy weekend.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Than great guy, Thanks Greg, Greg bell Our Seahawks in
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end up drinking any alcohol yesterday. Really for some reason,
I just was like, I don't feel it today.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
We took over for you. Don't worry.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Oh good good. I'm glad somebody out I'm glad somebody
out there picked up the slack. I was worried about it.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
I do have one more bottle of Copola Prosecco that
is going to be open because Sunday is a brunch game, right,
a ten am game? You have brunch. It's the holiday season,
so you gotta have some prosecco while you're watching the
Seahawks while you're eating brunch?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Do you mimosa it up?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
No?
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Not with that? No, no, no, okay, straight, okay, maybe
a drop of orange juice. Okay, that's it.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah, well, coming up next on the radio program NFL
versus NBA. It's really not a contest except on Christmas
Day Sports Radio now three point three kJ A r
F M. Nice makes it myself. I wish you kind
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of want Christmas start all over again hearing this.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
I don't blame you.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
By the way. We're really pushing the fencing, aren't we
here at the Ieheart.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Seem's a big deal. I don't think it's as big
of a deal as PayPal as these days, but it's
a pretty big deal.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Yeah. Yeah, Well you can always, you know, buy your
fencing equipment.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
That's true, you can do that, you can.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
So I want to sport the sponsors. It's been fencing
really and really going all in on fencingly.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Yeah, there's apparently like different ways to do it too.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, big push, big push going on.
I think it's an Olympic here community thing.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
If it's a country thing, I don't know. But there
just seems like, you know, one place, they say that
we got in the habit of drinking milk, even though
it never really was good for us, because the milk
people spent so much money, yeah, to buy our government's
stamp of approval. That's what i've heard. That's what i've heard.
(20:22):
That's a little bit of a scuttle butt out there,
and so maybe that's what maybe fencing's done that I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Or maybe it's like you know, what we're we know
in the future, we're going back towards more swordsmanship when
we maybe when we fight. So we got to start
early and see who are swordsmen could be to.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
I wasn't sitting around, Let's put it this way. I
wasn't sitting around in my days just with my free
time going Man, why didn't fencing get more? What happened?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
What happened to the idea of fencing?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, why aren't we doing more of that? There aren't
enough fencing clubs open. But it's I'm glad to see
that there's a push.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Yeah, no, it's happening.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I'm happy for the fencing people.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
It is happening.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
What I'm trying to say, I think that fighting people
with skinny swords is awesome.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
And don't forget you can pay your own way.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Uh well, yesterday we had plenty of sports action to
watch and plenty of time, plenty of other things to
distract us. Do you have a go to movie, for example,
that you watch on Christmas Day?
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Not usually on Christmas Day because we do usually have
sports on the TV. But like my Christmas movie, I
have to watch every season every year, White Christmas. Okay,
And I don't know why because it is very long,
it's somewhat boring. Yeah, but it's just the idea of
fencing in it. There's no fencing in it at all, actually,
which is sad. And some of the music bothers me.
(21:48):
But I mean there's wait, it's just tradition, but it's
true and something about the ending of it, like it's
worth it for all of the everything else, for the
snow to fall at the end and sorry spoiler alert,
and the big you know ending will follow the old
man wherever he wants. I don't know all of it.
I just love it. The nostalgia at the.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
End worth all of the boringness. Yeah, just to get
to the very end. Well, I'm a Christmas story guy,
and it pains me.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
To know that you don't.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I've never seen it.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
What you've never seen the movie, which is possible because
it's twenty four to seven loop. But I always catch
something different every single year. It happened again this year.
But I mean, I'm bringing it up because I did
take time to watch that. I really didn't take time
to watch sports. I mean, yeah, I checked out some
just about every NBA game for a little bit, but
(22:40):
the NBA's pretty much told us nothing really matters until
the postseason. Anyway. I'm not one of those NBA fans.
I do enjoy the league, and I do enjoy the sport,
and so I watch quite a bit of basketball. But
I like on Christmas Day, I didn't seem to make
it a priority. Yeah, and yet I will defend it
(23:02):
because they've kind of established that that's their day. It's
been going on all our entire lives. I remember watching
games at Grandma's house, you know, as a little kid
that the NBA was on and and the NFL had
Thanksgiving and there was never a basketball game on the
televisions and Thanksgiving where that was for football. And now
(23:24):
the NFL is just trying to own everything, and I
just I sort of find myself. I mean, obviously we're
all hooked, we're NFL fans that we can't get enough
of it. I'm watching every Thursday, can't wait till Saturday Sunday.
But there is just something like, this is a line
that you've crossed, and I'm not gonna go with you
(23:45):
because you're trying to own every aspect of our lives.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
I think things are going pretty well in FL. I
think you got it going on pretty well right now.
And so why do you have to own every single day,
major function. Hey, this is not your day. And now
you're also on top of it, asking me, asking people,
(24:11):
and this is what you're asking them to do. Don't
tell me, Well, people already got Netflix in prime. No no,
no, no no. You wouldn't be doing it if you, If
those they weren't paying to try to get people just
to buy their streaming services just to watch football. I
think it's tacky. The NFL runs a monstrous, well oiled
(24:32):
machine and I and they fill our entire year with
things to look forward to, including the draft, and you
know how much I'll love draft. But it's like, is
nothing sacred to you? Do you have to own everything?
Do you have to steal from everyone their ideas for marketing?
So I did. I made a point not to watch
any of it yesterday.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Well, and I do. I do kind of love though
that the NFL, in trying to steal everything, had all
of their matchups really kind of suck.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, like that that's karma.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Yeah, and I don't I don't think they should change
their schedule. Like Christmas was on a Thursday, so there
should still be a Thursday night football game.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Fine, but you.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Don't need the other two in the day. I just
don't think you do.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah, I'm with you. Yeah, And if you're not a
basketball fan, you want to watch basketball, But I mean,
I think the holiday should be for family anyway, and
then everything else should be in the background, whether it's
a movie or whether it's a sporting event or whatever
the case may be. I mean, I'm not sitting there
keeping score of NBA games, you know, during Christmas. You know,
(25:34):
even as a kid, it was you know, it was
about your presence and family and fudge and things of
that nature. And it was just sort of a background thing,
kind of went with the fabric of the holiday.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
The NFL doesn't do that for me, and and I
think I'm put off, yeah, trying at every turn to
ruin things that I think are outside of their comfort zone.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Well, and it just seems like in doing it, they
don't have any respect for the other sports organizations. And
that's the sad part because all of these organizations should
want success for all of them, because the more sports
fans you have, the more success for all the sports, right,
and you should have you know, basketball fans who might
be casual football fans and vice versa, and then the
(26:23):
sport grows, right, you get people to kind of glom on,
and the NFL wants not even people to glom on.
They just want people to be immersed. It's like it's
got to be every single moment of every single.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Day, every opportunity, we gotta we got to steal you
away from something else you would be doing so that
you feel forced to watch our product.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Yeah, and then to add on that, you're putting those
two games on Netflix. That's super annoying.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Well, if if they won the ratings war against the NBA,
then man, there's just really nothing any sport can do. No,
You're going to put on three crappy games on Christmas
Day and try to steal from the NBA and try
to steal from family time and try to steal from
everything else, and if you still end up dominating, I mean,
then we are just we've just given.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
In victims of the NFL.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, we have just completely given into the entire process,
and it will just encourage them to take more. So
I'm kind of hoping that the NBA won yesterday. I
doubt that it did, but we'll get the ratings. Maybe
they're already out, But I'm kind of hoping that the
NFL took it on the chin yesterday. And I hope
that those streaming services took it on the chin yesterday,
(27:36):
but I doubt it.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Yeah, it'd be fun, though.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
It would be fun all right, coming up next as
we get ready for our opponent. They've got a chance
to win the division this weekend, and I'm not even
sure if they're good. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM,
(28:07):
you Millen coming dot at nine o'clock Mike Sando is
gonna join us on a Friday our NFL Insider at
nine thirty today and we've got your Friday Oho, your
eight top stories of the day to wrap up the week.
And it has been a long week for me. I
mean he worked at yeah yeah hour, Yes exactly, I
(28:28):
have really put in the hour. Yeah. You this week
almost too all almost too where We're gonna get there,
you are, I'm gonna persevere.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Yeah, because you're strong, I have sticktuitiveness.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah. So we'll get through today
and then they'll get a much deserved couple days off,
thank good. Here this weekend, the Seahawks will be taking
on the Carolina Panthers. More on that coming up with
the Friday OCHO. But this has become a consistent theme
on this show, and that is that, man, you want
(29:04):
to talk about a strange football team that we're facing
on Sunday. They've got a chance to wrap up their division.
We don't. I mean, there is a scenario that plays
out that, yeah, San Francisco and the Rams losing, we
win in the Division is ours. But the scenarios makes
a lot more sense for Carolina that they can be
(29:27):
division champs with Tampa Bay losing against Miami, and if
they knock off the Seahawks then and they're playing at
the exact same time, they could know in front of
their fans they could win the division against the Seahawks tomorrow.
And there's no chance that we could have that because
the forty nine Ers don't play until Sunday night. The
(29:49):
Rams don't play until Monday night, so we don't have
that scenario. We're not going to walk off the field
in Carolina on Sunday, even with a win, being division
champions just not going to happen where there is a
chance that Carolina can have that feeling. And it seems strange.
I mean, not only is there a four win gap
(30:10):
between the two teams, Carolina really doesn't do anything well.
They're not top ten in anything. No, they don't have
a top ten quarterback, they don't have a top ten receiver,
they don't have a top ten running back. I don't
think they have a top ten defender. And yet they've
figured out a way to possibly win the division Sunday
(30:33):
with a win over the Seahawks. I mean, they started
off one to three, They had a three game winning
streak that kind of turned around their fortunes, all against
bad teams Miami, Dallas and the Jets. And ever since that,
they've not even put together back to back wins ever
since that.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
That's back on October nineteenth. October. We've had Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas.
All since that time. Yeah, they've gone three major holidays
since they've won back to back games or suffered back
to back losses. Yeah, they've just alternated wins ever since
Week number seventeen, it's crazy, or week number seven, I
(31:12):
should say. They have good wins. They've beaten the Rams,
they've beaten the Buccaneers in a game they had to have.
They beat the Green Bay Packers by three points. They
beat Atlanta when they were we thought they were good,
by thirty points. And yet they have these terrible losses.
Two losses to the New Orleans Saints. They have been
outscored by fifty points so far this season. First place team.
(31:37):
That is minus fifty minus. Just to put that into perspective,
the Dolphins are minus fifty two. You know how bad
the Dolphins have been this year. The Chiefs are plus thirty.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Six, and they're not good.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
They're not good at all, and yet that's how statistically
shoddy the Carolina Panthers have been and there's not even
like a rhyme or reason to it. They lost by
twenty nine points to New England, where they held Remandre
Stevenson to just thirty eight yards rushing as the Patriots
(32:13):
leading rusher. But then they lost by thirty one to
Buffalo and James Cook went for two hundred.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
And sixteen just totally makes sense.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
They beat the Falcons by three because Bryce Young threw
for four hundred and forty eight yards, but they also
beat the Falcons by thirty even though we only threw
for one hundred and twenty, Like, yeah, what a weird
ass team we're facing.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
There's no possible way to try to predict what they're
going to come out looking like.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
They're not going to come out good hopefully not, I mean,
but they are certainly better at home. All of those wins,
those good wins that I mapped out all home, every
single one of them were at home. If it's close,
they figure out a way, they figure out the play
to make so if they can and keep it close
at home, despite being a seven point underdog, they've proven
(33:05):
this year thing beat anybody, including the Los Angeles Rams,
who were flying high at that point in the season.
So they certainly are capable of victory. They're not anyone
to overlook. But it's just hard to predict a path
to victory for them, even though I acknowledge they when
they find when they get a scent of a win,
(33:26):
they're pretty good at getting home. But it's just really
difficult to think that this team could upset us the
way that we're playing right now. And how would they
do that? I mean, who's got the key to this
victory for the Carolina Panthers. Because they're inconsistent at running it,
(33:47):
they're inconsistent at throwing it. They're inconsistent it's stopping the run.
They're inconsistent at stopping the pass. They're not necessarily exceptional
at special teams like the Seahawks are, but they do
figure out ways to win games. And they're gonna have
everything on the line. They it's their super Bowl the
next couple of weeks. I mean, they're not gonna win
(34:07):
four straight games in the playoffs and win the super Bowl.
If they win a divisional title, they're gonna view this
as a highly successful season. It's a cigar smoking kind
of Sunday evening, feet on the desk, celebrating all that
we accomplish. Dave Canalist moment. If they can pull this
off on Sunday, Seahawks don't have that. Seahawks are gonna
(34:27):
be like, let's take a shower, get on the plane
and see if the Bears can knock off the forty
nine ers.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
I mean then I would support that.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yeah, yeah, I'll take that too, all right. Friday, Ocho's
next Your eight Top Stories of the day on Sports
Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
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