December 26, 2025 • 33 mins
We cover the top 8 sports stories of the week in the OCHO 1. Seahawks at Panthers 2. NFL week 17 started on Christmas Day 3. Playoff implications everywhere 4. NBA on Christmas Day 5. Who will be the next Michigan head coach? 6. The Kraken seem to be warming up 7. Rob Refsnyder is a Mariner 8. KJR sports weekend! :30- Rob Refsnyder is coming to town, so how will the Mariners utilize the newcomer? Is this any different from the Pollack or Garver additions? What’s left to fill out this roster? :45- Chuck has the perfect plan for how the Seahawks can win the division!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for the Oat Show, the best twelve minutes
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
But please strength responsibly.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Well, Merry Christmas, and a happy football Friday to you all.
It's Chuck Powell, It's Ashley Ryan with you here on
this Friday.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
That's right. I decided to come back to work for
one day.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Thank you for gracing us with your presence.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
You're welcome.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
No Bucky Jacobson today though, So it's Ashley and I
until ten o'clock this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Hugh Millon's coming your way. So is Mike Sando.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
On a football Friday sponsored by Tito's Handmade Vodka. Tito's
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Saber responsibly make a nice holiday gift. Nearly as nice
as a pair of those David's offty mall their pants.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I saw him showing off.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Who wouldn't want to ward David's face all over themselves?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
That had to have been a gena idea.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
I assume so plus she's the only one who calls
him David.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
True. Yeah, I knew I did like them. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I think we could sell them in the team shop here, yeah,
KJR and probably sell a few of.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Those, which is actually very concerning.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yes, I agree.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I'm not saying that people would wear them to, you know,
high falutin functions, but I think see.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Them wearing them down the streets.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, just down the street to the game, just at home,
relaxing comfortably as Softy looks up at you, Cann's face
on your pants.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Can you relax comfortably with those on?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
No? No, no, in party mode? Yeah, you're gonna put.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Those Maybe I'll get them for New Year's.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Uh, yeah, I loved it. Good idea, Gina. All right,
let's get it going. Eight top stories of the day
for you. It's the Friday Oat Show. The Seahawks will
be in action Sunday at ten am against the Carol
Line of Panthers. Greg bell, our Seahawks insider, joined us
this morning and gave us his key to victory.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
It's like any other game. The Seahawks are more talented
than this team. They should beat him. They have a
better roster, they're coaching their schemes. They should win this game,
so don't turn the ball over and let the team
get back in it. The turnovers are the great equalizer
in football, and when you don't turn it over, the
better team wins. That's almost always the case, home or
(02:27):
away weather conditions, playoff, regular season. If you don't turn
the ball over, the better team almost always wins. And
that's the turnover margin stat in football is so telling.
The Seahawks again have a quarterback who leads the league
in turnovers. Now, I know he's in better over the
last few games, but that's still the issue for this
team to me. As long as they aren't derailed by
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giving the ball away, they will beat teams they're better than. Yeah,
and I think that's going to be the case on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, that probably will be.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Both the Seahawks and Panthers have a divisional title on
the line the next two weeks. Unlike Carolina, the Seahawks
have already punched their ticket to the playoffs. Carolina still
has to earn that invitation to the dance. But unlike Carolina.
Also unlike Carolina, the Seahawks they don't have a chance
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to walk off the field knowing their division champs.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, where Carolina does.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
A Carolina victory and a Tampa Bay loss and they're
both playing the early games on Sunday means the Panthers
have a chance to pay possibly walk off the field
as division champs this year, where the Seahawks would have
to at least wait until Monday night in order to
celebrate that. And I don't think we're gonna have the
chance to celebrate that, not this week.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
No, I think we've got to earn every single ounce
of it. And it's gonna take a win this week
and a win next week. So one at a time,
let's go.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Hawks may start Tyokata at safety Kobe Bryant injury there. Also,
we know that Derek Hall's been suspended from the league
for a game and he will not be available to
Mike McDonald and his defense. Meanwhile, Carolina has activated the
window for return for their best offensive lineman, Robert Hunt,
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who's been out since week number two of the season.
So they've gotten here without their best offensive lineman and
one of their leaders of their clubhouse, and every article
that you read that's being pumped out by those that
cover the beat for the Carolina Panthers talk about how
significant it is to get Robert Hunt and he could
be the difference between them making the playoffs and not
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making the playoffs. But he still has to play. He
does to be ready to play, and so man, you
just activated him off of the IR which he's been
on since the second week of the season, It'd be
hard for me to believe he's going to be ready
to play limited practice throughout the course of the week
in time for Sunday's game. Maybe it's just in time
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for that crucial Buccaneers game following week, but there is
a chance Carolina is getting its best offensive lineman back,
just in case you were wondering.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Yeah, I would think it would be making more sense
for them.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
But if if it comes down to next week and
that's when they've got to pull out all the stops
to get into the playoffs, that's that's what their plan is.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, would surprise me. Despite being on the road, Vegas
believes and the Seahawks. They are a seven point favorite
heading into this game.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
NFL Week number seventeen started yesterday on Christmas Day, and
the Denver Broncos they have the best record in the
National Football League right now.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
Nick Gonna run it and he's gonna run it into
the end zone touchdown right through Hicks at the end
of the run. Next is rolling mixt will throw and
it's cut from the touchdown by R J.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Harvey. It's been a good week for al Michaels.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Boy, he's gotten kind of crushed the last couple of
weeks for his lackluster play by play calls.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Well, and I can see why he has when that
Seahawks Thursday night game should have been like the most
exciting and he could have really stepped it up a bit.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah, I mean Bob Costas had to kind of confront
this recently. You know that maybe I'm not on the
top of my game, and then half the audience doesn't
know how good I used to be.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, uh, And man, considering that I'm one of.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
The greatest broadcasters of all time, really don't want to
go out with people thinking I stink at this job.
And yet that's kind of what's going on without right now.
So for his sake and his reputation, I hope that
he does hang it up after this year. I don't
like seeing Al Michaels and Bob Costas get criticized, even
though their game has slipped considerably well.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
And I think the thing with Al too is it
just sounds like he's uninterested. It's not even like he
just is, you know, messing up and he's trying and
he's got the excitement he I mean, he does not
sound like he cares at all to be there.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I think that's fair. Yeah, I'm not saying that. I'm
not saying that's where he's at, but it comes off
that way.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
And so then it's like, well, you could fix that
on your own, yeah, and it just and so that's
where I get frustrated.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I'm like, you just don't seem like you have an
interest in this.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Seems like you're just taking a paycheck. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Broncos approved to a league best thirteen to three, as
I mentioned, but they still haven't wrapped up their division either.
As a matter of fact, it's going to come down
possibly to the last week of the regular season. They
will host the Los Angeles Chargers. The Chargers will need
a win over Houston and then a win over the Broncos.
So that's two really good teams, two hot teams that
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the Chargers are going to have to beat to close
out the regular season, but they do have a chance
to still sniper the AFC West. The Vikings eliminated the
Lions from the playoffs yesterday with a twenty three to
ten win Detroit and six turnovers in.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
The game, six crazy turnovers.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Also, I think GoF Goff sacked five times and they
were at bad penalties in the game. I didn't watch it,
but it sounds very much to me like the Detroit
Lions kind of knew that their season was over and
they were just not ready to play. Yeah, what it
sounds like against an inferior team to them, But that
inferior team has the exact same record as the Lions
(08:27):
have right now.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
They're both eight and eight on the year.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Well, and their rivals, you should always be up for
playing Arrival.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
You would think, you would think some soul searching going
to be done there in Detroit. I know that most
people in the country are rooting for the Lions and
the Bills if their own team doesn't get the job done.
And yet the Lions, they'll go another year without a
Super Bowl. Dallas won at Washington thirty to twenty three.
And now we get ready for the weekend Saturday. You're
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gonna have a doubleheader. That Chargers Texans game is at
one third Saturday, and then Baltimore at Green Bay at
five o'clock. All four of those teams still alive for
a playoff spot. Playoff implications are everywhere in the NFL playoffs.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, we'll talk about playoffs. Got kidding me? Playoffs? Well,
why wouldn't I?
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Yeah, right, that's what we're discussing, playoffs, Jim.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Every talk show sportscaster is required to play that once.
Here there was our one time check. We got it
in right before the off. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, it's reacquired by law. If I didn't, i'd get
fined by iHeart. I've watched their HR videos. Yeah, I
know this every year.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I don't listen. I don't let them play on me.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Jacksonville at Indianapolis is the best early game if it's
not us in Carolina. Philadelphia at Buffalo is the afternoon
game of note, and then Sunday night Chicago at San Francisco.
So the Bears are in the playoffs, forty nine Ers
are in the playoff, but both of those teams still
trying to win their respective divisions.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
The NBA.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
On Christmas Day, there was there were five games that
were played yesterday in the National Basketball Association, and they
saved the best performance of the day for last.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Here's the Joker against Gobe or cross to the left,
hats the sixteen footer. See there on the screen. The
Denver Nuggets zero for five in overtime, and there's a.
Speaker 8 (10:28):
Hit out of the time out by the Joker at three.
It's two minutes to go in overtime. Joker feeling it
hits a three, forty four points for the Joker.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
He would finish with fifty six in the game, sixteen rebounds,
fifteen assists.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Just incredible, just incredible.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
It's right, and the Nuggets won over Minnesota in overtime,
one forty two to one thirty eight five Christmas Day games.
As I mentioned, is the NBA tries to remain the
league synonymous with the holiday. The NFL certainly opened the
door back up for them yesterday by airing three subpart
matchups with their portion of your holiday viewing, and they
(11:16):
did it on two different streaming networks. I hope the
NBA won this one. I mean, I mean, I get it.
The NFL is king. I love the NFL that said it,
just I mean it there's some respect out there.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Ashlely. We talked about this in the last hour. The
NBA tries not to, you know, stomp on March madness.
For example, they sort of give March madness, all right,
this is your time, you know, to college basketball.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
If the NFL was playing in March, they'd probably schedule
their entire week on Thursday and Friday just to try
to take away from college basketball.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
That's just the way they operate. And I think it's
shady and nasty.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Yeah, I know, it doesn't.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
It does seem like a lot of other leagues like
to work together to yeah, and to enhance all the products,
and it does not seem like the NFL wants to.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yet.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
They just want to be like, no, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
We're better.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Let's and we don't believe we're better today where our
self esteem is low, so we're going to schedule games
where you have games so we can remind ourselves that
were better.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
And for the NBA, I hope you did well in
the ratings. Boy, you should have. If ever, there was
an opportunity for you to win the day, you had
five good matchups featuring some of your best individual players
to showcase and the NFL didn't have an interesting game
that they aired that does not for fantasy football. But
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there wasn't really much interest in any of those host
three games. So I hope for the NBA's sake that
they held their own at least, because.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
If you got crushed by the NFL again, you're never
not going to get crushed. Yeah that was your chance. Okay, See,
by the way, lost to San Antonio again. The Spurs
are three to.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Zero against the Thunder, who have lost only five games
this year, so three of their five losses to the
same team. Obviously, there's a difficult matchup there for the Thunder,
and San Antonio's got a really good chance to add
at the trading deadline, but so does Oklahoma City, so
we might be staring at the best rivalry vergeoning rivalry
(13:28):
for the next few years in the NBA. If San
Antonio is for real, there certainly is a matchup problem
there for the Thunder. JJ Reddick said his team doesn't
care enough after a loss to Houston and.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Then got criticized by NBA players afterwards. They're just not
accustomed to an NBA coach calling.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Out his players as consistently as what JJ Reddick does
in postgame press conferences. And the next yesterday Edge the
Cavs and what was probably the most entertaining game of
the day. All right, Item number five on your road show,
your eight top stories of the day, the Michigan job. Man,
it's been lingering. It's been out there, so many coaches
have been rumored. Michigan's not really been at the forefront
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of spreading those rumors. They've actually kind of conducted this
thing with some class, and Michigan football.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Really doesn't operate that way.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Well, they have none, But it looks like we're getting
really close to this finally being solved.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
In order to expedite these negotiations, we are prepared to
make you a very generous offer, and we are prepared
to reject.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
That offer like I haven't even heard, never accept their
first offer. What is your second offer? Twelve thousand dollars?
Are you kidding me? That is insultingly low. I don't
even want to hear where your first offer was.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Well, no, wonder, it's taking a while.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Yeah, that's not going to go well, so.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Are you sitting down?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
The morning started today with news from Adam Schefter saying
that the new front runner for the head coaching position
at Michigan is Kyle Whittingham. He recently retired utah UT's
head coach, retired utawt UT's head coach who remember had
had enough, and yet apparently the Michigan job is just
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that appealing that Kyle Whittingham would be willing to come
out of very short retirement to take the position as
head coach of the Michigan Wolverines.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
It sounds like he is the singular.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Focus of the athletic department at this point, and it's
just a matter of hammering out an agreement today and
Kyle Whittingham will be the next head coach of the Wolverine.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
No.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
I hope their negotiating skills are better than what's happening
at dunder Mifflin.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah, I would imagine they're a little bit better.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
But I tell you, for a sixty six year old
head coach who obviously felt he didn't have the energy
in today's game to keep going, yeah, with where he
was and where he's beloved and where he did a
phenomenal job, I'm up big, Kyle riding in.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
I don't know many people who aren't.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, to then say to yourself can I summon the
energy for a bigger program with bigger headaches and bigger responsibilities, and.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
At age sixty six, starts something.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Brand new And oh, by the way, I've got to
fix a few broken things in the program as well,
because the last two head coaches that were in charge
kind of left the damn thing in shambles.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Yeah, that's the thing. I don't understand.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
You had a great thing the way you were being
at Utah and then leaving. Nobody could fault you for
retiring and being tired. It was twenty one years, Like,
kudos to you, and then all of a sudden you're like, oh,
maybe I'm not too tired for Michigan Now. It's like, well, no,
there's no way that that just changed all of a sudden,
unless you were just not feeling Utah anymore.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Well, I would think that Kaylin de Boor if he
really did want to stay at Alabama this entire time,
then he'll be relieved to have this thing filled. I
would think Jed Fish the same way.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I'm hoping that he's not bitterly disappointed because he wanted
the job the whole time and just didn't want to
tell us.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I hope there is good.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Finally I'm gonna be out from underneath this thing and
I can focus on Washington Nusky's football.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
But who knows?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
So there that saga could come to an end today
we shall see. Speaking of Washington football. Since last we spoke,
Denzell Boston entered the NFL Draft. No surprise there, He's
gonna be a first round pick, and the college football
playoff is going to resume on New Year's Eve. Just
out of nowhere, the Seattle Kraken decided, Hey, we're just
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not gonna lose anymore.
Speaker 8 (17:39):
Look call him long lead feed, broken up Tobenen got
one ahead every with.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
The empty NATI stars sword in every flip boards.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
Tolliver is a big blow and it could be the
final one thirty five second sleft in regulation as every breaking.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
The time, we're back to back goals and the krack
and take a three to one lead. World's nicest human
Mike Benton, I mean who would win that? Between him,
Everett and Al being the nicest.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yeah, Like they're the three nicest human beings and they're
all on our crack and broadcast together.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
We got a nice team.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, I got a nice team. Get it nice, nice
group of group of fellas.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Yeah, the Kraken have won three straight this after dropping
ten of eleven games and losing several key players to
injuries during that stretch of bad play. And yet now
all of a sudden they can't lose, right, they will
try to make it four in a row Sunday at
five when they host the Philadelphia Flyers. And finally, I
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have not had a chance to talk about this. I
know that Ashley and Bucky have, but the Mariners have
signed Rob Refsnyder, as you know, to a one year deal,
and that is ref Sneider, not Rob Snyder.
Speaker 8 (18:56):
You can do it.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yeah, no, no, I'm not the same person. Yeah, remotely
spelled the same. So I have not had a chance
to weigh in on this, and I will do it next.
There's your oh show, your eight top stories of the
day right here on Chuck and Box Sports Radio ninety
three point three kJ R f M.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
That's what it's tapped into. The Toad's Happened Christmas? Oh yeah,
I got a bunch of them.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Are best of shows?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Oh great?
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Need a little fun holiday ish music without being too
Christmas Eve.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
You know, some people don't want to hear Christmas music,
it's not Christmas anymore.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I think it's a pretty good strategy.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Thank you. I like it. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
It's Chuck Powell, it's Ashley Ryan with you know, Bucky Jacobson.
Today it is a Football Friday sponsor by Tito's Handmade Vodka.
And we got Hugh Millen coming on the show. We
got Mike Sando filling in for Mike Holmgren today at
nine thirty since we didn't get the chance to chat
with Mike on Thursday. And we also have a little
baseball here that I would like to discuss. I did
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tune into the show one time while I was taking
my two days off, and I heard you both talking
about Rob Refsnyder. That's what I heard you talking about. Yeah,
And I have not had a chance to talk about it.
We haven't recorded an episode of Stove Anders and I
yet regarding this, so I have not had a chance
to discuss the signing of Rob Refsnyder.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
And it's crazy. I mean, maybe some could track it up.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
To the holiday season and everybody's just filled with mirth,
but I think this has more to do with Look
what happens when you have a season like the Mariners
had when Cal Rawley becomes a superstar and you make
the playoffs with some wiggle room, and you win the
division and you make it all the way to the ALCS,
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how much the fan base's perception changes, and the media
as well, about how much more credit they give the
organization when the organization seems to be on a hot
streak right now. Because I cannot even believe. I'm not
saying you're wrong. I can't even believe the love for
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this Rob Refsneider deal. Yeah, when I've been here ten years,
you people have never liked signing a platoon player to
a free agent contract.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeh.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
Ever, Ember, if the Mariners would not have signed Josh
Naylor already, and this was the first thing they'd done,
they wouldn't have. If they wouldn't have signed Josh Naylor yet,
Jorge Polanco was gone and they signed Rob Refsneider, people
would be losing there.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
You know what, I don't know, maybe not because they
were losing their you know what's anyway, every time anybody
ever suggested spending any money on a platoon player, I mean,
I got news for you.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
This is no different than Aj Pollock.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah, I mean, same age thirty four years old, and
Pollock actually had a better slugging percentage when he came here,
and Mariner fans hated aj Pollock.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, that signing.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
And Mitch Garver hit three p forty four against lefties
the year before he came here had a five hundred
on base percentage.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Oh no, a nine to eight ops.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
So yeah, Rob Reschneider has a reputation of crushing left
handed pitching and he did it as recently.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
As this season. Yeah. And for me, I get the signing.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
I don't think there's any way to love the signing,
but yeah, I get how that works and that improves
things for.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
The Mariners this year.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
But it is amazing how a little bit of success
and a little bit and an Executive of the Year award, Yeah,
and some momentum and people being able to see the
forest for the trees here in the last three months
with this organization, with this particular front office, and now
all of a sudden signing a platoon thirty four year
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old short side platoon outfielder is suddenly a wonderful thing.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
The Mariner fans and media are celebrating throughout the city.
It's hilarious.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
Well, and imagine being in the Mariner's front office, They're like,
wait a minute, guys, if we would have done this
years ago, we could have had this success years ago.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
We would have saved ourselves a lot of grief.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
We should remember this.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Now.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
The move itself, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I mean I do wonder how it is going to
impact others already on the roster, because I am imagining
that your right field is Ref Schneider and canzone splitting
that like just a full fledged platoon? Does that mean
Victor Roblaz is on the outside looking in? Does that
mean Victor Roblaze moves over to left field and a
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Rose Arena who's not as good a defender becomes your
full time DH since you don't currently have one of
those people on the roster at this point. I don't
hate that idea. Is it a combination of all of it?
Is it just gonna be rotational? Julio plays every day
at center field, you know that. But the five of them,
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because you also have Luke Rayley still in the picture here,
And I don't think we should give up on Luke Rayley.
I mean, he he had two really good years as
a Mariner and then he had a terrible one this
past year. It's not like he's thirty five years old.
He could bounce back from it. You know, maybe he's
a year older, maybe sleeping through the night. Maybe that's
what caused Luke Rayley to have a bad year this year.
(25:04):
Who knows.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
But between those five guys, you're.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
You know, can Zone, Refsnyder, Roeblaze a Rose Arena and
Rayley and you're rotating them through the two corner outfields,
and the DH with a Rose arena the only one
you're playing every day. Whether he's d H or left field,
whatever the case may be, but he plays every day.
So that that that to me, is the question that
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comes out of this because there's no question that Rob
Refsnyder's going to play against left handers. That's the reason
that he's here. And I'll say this about him as well.
He came up as an infielder, became an outfielder. He's
kind of muscle bound and he's pretty athletic.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
He's thirty four years old. He's not the speed guy
he was once upon a time, but he is good
for like two show stopping sensational defensive plays single year.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Okay, and I don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
I haven't watched him enough to know if he consistently
plays like a gold Glove caliber outfield, but I'll tell
you this, he will make two of the best catches
you'll see all season long.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
He does it every damn year of his career.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
So I like it.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
But then I saw the merits to the Pollock move. Yeah,
and I saw the didn't love it. Didn't love the
Pollock move, didn't love the Garvor move.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
But I saw the merits to it. And that's how
I feel about Rev Snyder. I see the merits to
this signing, but there's no way to love this signing.
I don't think that it changes the entire game for
the Seattle Mariners. It's just a good, cheap, one year
signing that should make you a slightly better team.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
In certain situations than what you've been in the past.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
And I think once you've established yourself as a quality
we feel like we are a playoff team, and it's
about winning the World Series. Once you've established that, and
I think that's where we are, then little tiny moves
like this that are.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Just slight adjustments seem to score better.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah, with even the most frustrated a fan bases when
they feel when they do buy into all right, we're
moving in the right direction and now all of a
sudden something they've tried several times and everyone hated.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Now the reaction is great, move really smart.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Wow, these guys are genius, really clever. Wonder Jerry One
Executive of the Year.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Pres Nyer is a good player, kills lefties.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
I totally get why Dan Wilson's the top three a
Manager of the Year. Guys, they're really really onto something,
all right, and.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I think that it absolutely takes you out of the
running for anybody else outfield wise. I think right now
they're going to add another bat. It's going to be
a third basement or second basement, and maybe somebody that
does both.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
I think they are still the market for another bat,
one that could play every day. But I think you're
down to either third base or second base.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
That's it. That's the only mystery that remains. All right.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Coming up next on the radio program, before we bring
Hugh Milling up at nine o'clock, we'll just take a
look at that NFL playoff picture as it sort of
comes into focus. Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ
A R.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
F M.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Is the season to be.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I have been decided on how I want us to
get in to win the NFC West.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Okay, I'm ready.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yeah, here is the scenario that would tickle me most
in terms of winning the NFC West late on me.
I would like to beat the Carolina Panthers on Sunday.
We'll start there, check, okay, and then I want the
Rams and the forty nine ers.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
To both tie.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Okay, did not see that coming?
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yes, because in that situation, we could wrap this thing
up by Monday night.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Okay, if they both lose, then what would happen? Oh yeah,
we can do it that way too, But time makes
it funnier.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Time makes it much funnier.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Yeah, so they could both lose and we're good, but
they also actually I know that's that's actually not true.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I would take that back the forty nine ers even
with a Nope, that's not true. That's not true. No,
you're right, you're right.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Yeah, both of the loss, but two ties would also
get it done. So all right, that would be awesome.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
All right, I'm in sign me up. I will laugh
very hard if that happened.
Speaker 7 (29:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
So yeah, so there's a there's a lot at steak
heading into this weekend, and certainly a lot of different
moving pieces out there. Chicago can clinch the NFC North
Division title with a win or a Green Bay loss.
That either one of those things for them. Carolina, of course,
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we've talked about quite a bit. They clinch with a
win and a Tampa Bay loss, and then ties do
come into play here.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I just don't want to go through all of this
and mentioning all the ties.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Right, you know they're unlikely, right.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
San Francisco is ahead of the Rams in the NFC
West based on division records, so San Francisco wins a
tiebreaker with the Rams where it doesn't look like we
would ultimately. And Minnesota is head of Detroit in the
NFC North based on head to head sweep but I
think that only actually comes down to draft positioning at
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this stage because they are both eliminated. So that's what's
at stake in the NFC. In the AFC, the playoff picture,
Indianapolis is still alive, but they can't afford another loss,
So Indianapolis Houston clinches with a with either an Indianapolis loss,
which feels likely right now, or a Houston win against
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the Los Angeles Chargers. But the Chargers have a lot
at stake as well, because the Chargers can still win
the AFC West. So but they're gonna have to win
against Houston this weekend Saturday, and then they're gonna have
to defeat Denver in the final week of the regular season.
So Denver sitting there with the best record right now
in the National Football League, and all they need to
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do is that you have the Chargers lose Saturday, and
they've they're at.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
The top of the AFC West.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
New England win and a Buffalo loss puts the Patriots
in this weekend, So that means that Buffalo with a win,
still can pull this thing off in the AFC East.
So there are scenarios big picture where everything pretty much
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can be decided this weekend.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
But there's also a scenario where almost.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Nothing is decided this weekend, and so the NFL once
as many puzzle pieces strewn about as they possibly can
have on the you know, Christmas Day floor for the
final week of.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
The regular season.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
And it would be hard to believe even though CBS
took the time to write an article about how Week
eighteen could be very uneventful. It could also be extremely eventful,
and you could have you know, ten games with playoff
ramifications this weekend. And of course they still haven't decided
who's going to play the last game of the year,
and the Seahawks are a strong.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Candidate for doing that. Yeah, and part of me the
Seahawks are guaranteed, well not guaranteed, but almost guaranteed of
having something at stake in Week eighteen.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
I would assume so.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
And part of me loves the idea of having Week
eighteen have so many awesome games that you're just glued
to the TV all weekend and can't get enough. But
part of me also loves the idea of having everything
wrapped up on Week seventeen and the NFL going, wow, crap,
no one cares about us on Week eighteen.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
What are we supposed to do?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Oh, we don't even have fantasy football on weekend?
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Yeah, that means no one's too need What are we.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Going to do if three trillion people don't watch? I
have a feeling we'll get about half.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
I think we're going to get about half the drama
that you could get for Week eighteen, and that's plenty.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
So yeah, we got a lot at.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Stake here in the Pacific Northwest and across the National
Football League, and we'll start figuring some pieces out tomorrow.
Two games tomorrow with some playoff ramifications, all right, Hugh
Mellon's next, Mike Sando at nine thirty. It's Chuck and
Ashley with you here on this Football Friday. Sports Radio
ninety three point three KJRFM
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
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Speaker 3 (00:17):
Well, Merry Christmas, and a happy football Friday to you all.
It's Chuck Powell, It's Ashley Ryan with you here on
this Friday.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
That's right. I decided to come back to work for
one day.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Thank you for gracing us with your presence.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
You're welcome.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
No Bucky Jacobson today though, So it's Ashley and I
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Speaker 2 (00:40):
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Speaker 3 (00:42):
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Saber responsibly make a nice holiday gift. Nearly as nice
as a pair of those David's offty mall their pants.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I saw him showing off.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Who wouldn't want to ward David's face all over themselves?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
That had to have been a gena idea.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
I assume so plus she's the only one who calls
him David.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
True. Yeah, I knew I did like them. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I think we could sell them in the team shop here, yeah,
KJR and probably sell a few of.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Those, which is actually very concerning.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yes, I agree.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I'm not saying that people would wear them to, you know,
high falutin functions, but I think see.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Them wearing them down the streets.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, just down the street to the game, just at home,
relaxing comfortably as Softy looks up at you, Cann's face
on your pants.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Can you relax comfortably with those on?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
No? No, no, in party mode? Yeah, you're gonna put.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Those Maybe I'll get them for New Year's.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Uh, yeah, I loved it. Good idea, Gina. All right,
let's get it going. Eight top stories of the day
for you. It's the Friday Oat Show. The Seahawks will
be in action Sunday at ten am against the Carol
Line of Panthers. Greg bell, our Seahawks insider, joined us
this morning and gave us his key to victory.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
It's like any other game. The Seahawks are more talented
than this team. They should beat him. They have a
better roster, they're coaching their schemes. They should win this game,
so don't turn the ball over and let the team
get back in it. The turnovers are the great equalizer
in football, and when you don't turn it over, the
better team wins. That's almost always the case, home or
(02:27):
away weather conditions, playoff, regular season. If you don't turn
the ball over, the better team almost always wins. And
that's the turnover margin stat in football is so telling.
The Seahawks again have a quarterback who leads the league
in turnovers. Now, I know he's in better over the
last few games, but that's still the issue for this
team to me. As long as they aren't derailed by
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giving the ball away, they will beat teams they're better than. Yeah,
and I think that's going to be the case on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, that probably will be.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Both the Seahawks and Panthers have a divisional title on
the line the next two weeks. Unlike Carolina, the Seahawks
have already punched their ticket to the playoffs. Carolina still
has to earn that invitation to the dance. But unlike Carolina.
Also unlike Carolina, the Seahawks they don't have a chance
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to walk off the field knowing their division champs.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, where Carolina does.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
A Carolina victory and a Tampa Bay loss and they're
both playing the early games on Sunday means the Panthers
have a chance to pay possibly walk off the field
as division champs this year, where the Seahawks would have
to at least wait until Monday night in order to
celebrate that. And I don't think we're gonna have the
chance to celebrate that, not this week.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
No, I think we've got to earn every single ounce
of it. And it's gonna take a win this week
and a win next week. So one at a time,
let's go.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Hawks may start Tyokata at safety Kobe Bryant injury there. Also,
we know that Derek Hall's been suspended from the league
for a game and he will not be available to
Mike McDonald and his defense. Meanwhile, Carolina has activated the
window for return for their best offensive lineman, Robert Hunt,
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who's been out since week number two of the season.
So they've gotten here without their best offensive lineman and
one of their leaders of their clubhouse, and every article
that you read that's being pumped out by those that
cover the beat for the Carolina Panthers talk about how
significant it is to get Robert Hunt and he could
be the difference between them making the playoffs and not
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making the playoffs. But he still has to play. He
does to be ready to play, and so man, you
just activated him off of the IR which he's been
on since the second week of the season, It'd be
hard for me to believe he's going to be ready
to play limited practice throughout the course of the week
in time for Sunday's game. Maybe it's just in time
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for that crucial Buccaneers game following week, but there is
a chance Carolina is getting its best offensive lineman back,
just in case you were wondering.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Yeah, I would think it would be making more sense
for them.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
But if if it comes down to next week and
that's when they've got to pull out all the stops
to get into the playoffs, that's that's what their plan is.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, would surprise me. Despite being on the road, Vegas
believes and the Seahawks. They are a seven point favorite
heading into this game.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
NFL Week number seventeen started yesterday on Christmas Day, and
the Denver Broncos they have the best record in the
National Football League right now.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
Nick Gonna run it and he's gonna run it into
the end zone touchdown right through Hicks at the end
of the run. Next is rolling mixt will throw and
it's cut from the touchdown by R J.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Harvey. It's been a good week for al Michaels.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Boy, he's gotten kind of crushed the last couple of
weeks for his lackluster play by play calls.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Well, and I can see why he has when that
Seahawks Thursday night game should have been like the most
exciting and he could have really stepped it up a bit.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah, I mean Bob Costas had to kind of confront
this recently. You know that maybe I'm not on the
top of my game, and then half the audience doesn't
know how good I used to be.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, uh, And man, considering that I'm one of.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
The greatest broadcasters of all time, really don't want to
go out with people thinking I stink at this job.
And yet that's kind of what's going on without right now.
So for his sake and his reputation, I hope that
he does hang it up after this year. I don't
like seeing Al Michaels and Bob Costas get criticized, even
though their game has slipped considerably well.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
And I think the thing with Al too is it
just sounds like he's uninterested. It's not even like he
just is, you know, messing up and he's trying and
he's got the excitement he I mean, he does not
sound like he cares at all to be there.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I think that's fair. Yeah, I'm not saying that. I'm
not saying that's where he's at, but it comes off
that way.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
And so then it's like, well, you could fix that
on your own, yeah, and it just and so that's
where I get frustrated.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I'm like, you just don't seem like you have an
interest in this.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Seems like you're just taking a paycheck. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Broncos approved to a league best thirteen to three, as
I mentioned, but they still haven't wrapped up their division either.
As a matter of fact, it's going to come down
possibly to the last week of the regular season. They
will host the Los Angeles Chargers. The Chargers will need
a win over Houston and then a win over the Broncos.
So that's two really good teams, two hot teams that
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the Chargers are going to have to beat to close
out the regular season, but they do have a chance
to still sniper the AFC West. The Vikings eliminated the
Lions from the playoffs yesterday with a twenty three to
ten win Detroit and six turnovers in.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
The game, six crazy turnovers.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Also, I think GoF Goff sacked five times and they
were at bad penalties in the game. I didn't watch it,
but it sounds very much to me like the Detroit
Lions kind of knew that their season was over and
they were just not ready to play. Yeah, what it
sounds like against an inferior team to them, But that
inferior team has the exact same record as the Lions
(08:27):
have right now.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
They're both eight and eight on the year.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Well, and their rivals, you should always be up for
playing Arrival.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
You would think, you would think some soul searching going
to be done there in Detroit. I know that most
people in the country are rooting for the Lions and
the Bills if their own team doesn't get the job done.
And yet the Lions, they'll go another year without a
Super Bowl. Dallas won at Washington thirty to twenty three.
And now we get ready for the weekend Saturday. You're
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gonna have a doubleheader. That Chargers Texans game is at
one third Saturday, and then Baltimore at Green Bay at
five o'clock. All four of those teams still alive for
a playoff spot. Playoff implications are everywhere in the NFL playoffs.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, we'll talk about playoffs. Got kidding me? Playoffs? Well,
why wouldn't I?
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Yeah, right, that's what we're discussing, playoffs, Jim.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Every talk show sportscaster is required to play that once.
Here there was our one time check. We got it
in right before the off. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, it's reacquired by law. If I didn't, i'd get
fined by iHeart. I've watched their HR videos. Yeah, I
know this every year.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I don't listen. I don't let them play on me.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Jacksonville at Indianapolis is the best early game if it's
not us in Carolina. Philadelphia at Buffalo is the afternoon
game of note, and then Sunday night Chicago at San Francisco.
So the Bears are in the playoffs, forty nine Ers
are in the playoff, but both of those teams still
trying to win their respective divisions.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
The NBA.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
On Christmas Day, there was there were five games that
were played yesterday in the National Basketball Association, and they
saved the best performance of the day for last.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Here's the Joker against Gobe or cross to the left,
hats the sixteen footer. See there on the screen. The
Denver Nuggets zero for five in overtime, and there's a.
Speaker 8 (10:28):
Hit out of the time out by the Joker at three.
It's two minutes to go in overtime. Joker feeling it
hits a three, forty four points for the Joker.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
He would finish with fifty six in the game, sixteen rebounds,
fifteen assists.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Just incredible, just incredible.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
It's right, and the Nuggets won over Minnesota in overtime,
one forty two to one thirty eight five Christmas Day games.
As I mentioned, is the NBA tries to remain the
league synonymous with the holiday. The NFL certainly opened the
door back up for them yesterday by airing three subpart
matchups with their portion of your holiday viewing, and they
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did it on two different streaming networks. I hope the
NBA won this one. I mean, I mean, I get it.
The NFL is king. I love the NFL that said it,
just I mean it there's some respect out there.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Ashlely. We talked about this in the last hour. The
NBA tries not to, you know, stomp on March madness.
For example, they sort of give March madness, all right,
this is your time, you know, to college basketball.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
If the NFL was playing in March, they'd probably schedule
their entire week on Thursday and Friday just to try
to take away from college basketball.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
That's just the way they operate. And I think it's
shady and nasty.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Yeah, I know, it doesn't.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
It does seem like a lot of other leagues like
to work together to yeah, and to enhance all the products,
and it does not seem like the NFL wants to.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yet.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
They just want to be like, no, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
We're better.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Let's and we don't believe we're better today where our
self esteem is low, so we're going to schedule games
where you have games so we can remind ourselves that
were better.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
And for the NBA, I hope you did well in
the ratings. Boy, you should have. If ever, there was
an opportunity for you to win the day, you had
five good matchups featuring some of your best individual players
to showcase and the NFL didn't have an interesting game
that they aired that does not for fantasy football. But
(12:45):
there wasn't really much interest in any of those host
three games. So I hope for the NBA's sake that
they held their own at least, because.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
If you got crushed by the NFL again, you're never
not going to get crushed. Yeah that was your chance. Okay, See,
by the way, lost to San Antonio again. The Spurs
are three to.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Zero against the Thunder, who have lost only five games
this year, so three of their five losses to the
same team. Obviously, there's a difficult matchup there for the Thunder,
and San Antonio's got a really good chance to add
at the trading deadline, but so does Oklahoma City, so
we might be staring at the best rivalry vergeoning rivalry
(13:28):
for the next few years in the NBA. If San
Antonio is for real, there certainly is a matchup problem
there for the Thunder. JJ Reddick said his team doesn't
care enough after a loss to Houston and.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Then got criticized by NBA players afterwards. They're just not
accustomed to an NBA coach calling.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Out his players as consistently as what JJ Reddick does
in postgame press conferences. And the next yesterday Edge the
Cavs and what was probably the most entertaining game of
the day. All right, Item number five on your road show,
your eight top stories of the day, the Michigan job. Man,
it's been lingering. It's been out there, so many coaches
have been rumored. Michigan's not really been at the forefront
(14:10):
of spreading those rumors. They've actually kind of conducted this
thing with some class, and Michigan football.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Really doesn't operate that way.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Well, they have none, But it looks like we're getting
really close to this finally being solved.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
In order to expedite these negotiations, we are prepared to
make you a very generous offer, and we are prepared
to reject.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
That offer like I haven't even heard, never accept their
first offer. What is your second offer? Twelve thousand dollars?
Are you kidding me? That is insultingly low. I don't
even want to hear where your first offer was.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Well, no, wonder, it's taking a while.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Yeah, that's not going to go well, so.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Are you sitting down?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
The morning started today with news from Adam Schefter saying
that the new front runner for the head coaching position
at Michigan is Kyle Whittingham. He recently retired utah UT's
head coach, retired utawt UT's head coach who remember had
had enough, and yet apparently the Michigan job is just
(15:18):
that appealing that Kyle Whittingham would be willing to come
out of very short retirement to take the position as
head coach of the Michigan Wolverines.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
It sounds like he is the singular.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Focus of the athletic department at this point, and it's
just a matter of hammering out an agreement today and
Kyle Whittingham will be the next head coach of the Wolverine.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
No.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
I hope their negotiating skills are better than what's happening
at dunder Mifflin.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah, I would imagine they're a little bit better.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
But I tell you, for a sixty six year old
head coach who obviously felt he didn't have the energy
in today's game to keep going, yeah, with where he
was and where he's beloved and where he did a
phenomenal job, I'm up big, Kyle riding in.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
I don't know many people who aren't.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, to then say to yourself can I summon the
energy for a bigger program with bigger headaches and bigger responsibilities, and.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
At age sixty six, starts something.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Brand new And oh, by the way, I've got to
fix a few broken things in the program as well,
because the last two head coaches that were in charge
kind of left the damn thing in shambles.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Yeah, that's the thing. I don't understand.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
You had a great thing the way you were being
at Utah and then leaving. Nobody could fault you for
retiring and being tired. It was twenty one years, Like,
kudos to you, and then all of a sudden you're like, oh,
maybe I'm not too tired for Michigan Now. It's like, well, no,
there's no way that that just changed all of a sudden,
unless you were just not feeling Utah anymore.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Well, I would think that Kaylin de Boor if he
really did want to stay at Alabama this entire time,
then he'll be relieved to have this thing filled. I
would think Jed Fish the same way.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I'm hoping that he's not bitterly disappointed because he wanted
the job the whole time and just didn't want to
tell us.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I hope there is good.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Finally I'm gonna be out from underneath this thing and
I can focus on Washington Nusky's football.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
But who knows?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
So there that saga could come to an end today
we shall see. Speaking of Washington football. Since last we spoke,
Denzell Boston entered the NFL Draft. No surprise there, He's
gonna be a first round pick, and the college football
playoff is going to resume on New Year's Eve. Just
out of nowhere, the Seattle Kraken decided, Hey, we're just
(17:37):
not gonna lose anymore.
Speaker 8 (17:39):
Look call him long lead feed, broken up Tobenen got
one ahead every with.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
The empty NATI stars sword in every flip boards.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
Tolliver is a big blow and it could be the
final one thirty five second sleft in regulation as every breaking.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
The time, we're back to back goals and the krack
and take a three to one lead. World's nicest human
Mike Benton, I mean who would win that? Between him,
Everett and Al being the nicest.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yeah, Like they're the three nicest human beings and they're
all on our crack and broadcast together.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
We got a nice team.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, I got a nice team. Get it nice, nice
group of group of fellas.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Yeah, the Kraken have won three straight this after dropping
ten of eleven games and losing several key players to
injuries during that stretch of bad play. And yet now
all of a sudden they can't lose, right, they will
try to make it four in a row Sunday at
five when they host the Philadelphia Flyers. And finally, I
(18:43):
have not had a chance to talk about this. I
know that Ashley and Bucky have, but the Mariners have
signed Rob Refsnyder, as you know, to a one year deal,
and that is ref Sneider, not Rob Snyder.
Speaker 8 (18:56):
You can do it.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yeah, no, no, I'm not the same person. Yeah, remotely
spelled the same. So I have not had a chance
to weigh in on this, and I will do it next.
There's your oh show, your eight top stories of the
day right here on Chuck and Box Sports Radio ninety
three point three kJ R f M.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
That's what it's tapped into. The Toad's Happened Christmas? Oh yeah,
I got a bunch of them.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Are best of shows?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Oh great?
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Need a little fun holiday ish music without being too
Christmas Eve.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
You know, some people don't want to hear Christmas music,
it's not Christmas anymore.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I think it's a pretty good strategy.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Thank you. I like it. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
It's Chuck Powell, it's Ashley Ryan with you know, Bucky Jacobson.
Today it is a Football Friday sponsor by Tito's Handmade Vodka.
And we got Hugh Millen coming on the show. We
got Mike Sando filling in for Mike Holmgren today at
nine thirty since we didn't get the chance to chat
with Mike on Thursday. And we also have a little
baseball here that I would like to discuss. I did
(20:18):
tune into the show one time while I was taking
my two days off, and I heard you both talking
about Rob Refsnyder. That's what I heard you talking about. Yeah,
And I have not had a chance to talk about it.
We haven't recorded an episode of Stove Anders and I
yet regarding this, so I have not had a chance
to discuss the signing of Rob Refsnyder.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
And it's crazy. I mean, maybe some could track it up.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
To the holiday season and everybody's just filled with mirth,
but I think this has more to do with Look
what happens when you have a season like the Mariners
had when Cal Rawley becomes a superstar and you make
the playoffs with some wiggle room, and you win the
division and you make it all the way to the ALCS,
(21:07):
how much the fan base's perception changes, and the media
as well, about how much more credit they give the
organization when the organization seems to be on a hot
streak right now. Because I cannot even believe. I'm not
saying you're wrong. I can't even believe the love for
(21:30):
this Rob Refsneider deal. Yeah, when I've been here ten years,
you people have never liked signing a platoon player to
a free agent contract.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeh.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
Ever, Ember, if the Mariners would not have signed Josh
Naylor already, and this was the first thing they'd done,
they wouldn't have. If they wouldn't have signed Josh Naylor yet,
Jorge Polanco was gone and they signed Rob Refsneider, people
would be losing there.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
You know what, I don't know, maybe not because they
were losing their you know what's anyway, every time anybody
ever suggested spending any money on a platoon player, I mean,
I got news for you.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
This is no different than Aj Pollock.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah, I mean, same age thirty four years old, and
Pollock actually had a better slugging percentage when he came here,
and Mariner fans hated aj Pollock.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, that signing.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
And Mitch Garver hit three p forty four against lefties
the year before he came here had a five hundred
on base percentage.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Oh no, a nine to eight ops.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
So yeah, Rob Reschneider has a reputation of crushing left
handed pitching and he did it as recently.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
As this season. Yeah. And for me, I get the signing.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
I don't think there's any way to love the signing,
but yeah, I get how that works and that improves
things for.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
The Mariners this year.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
But it is amazing how a little bit of success
and a little bit and an Executive of the Year award, Yeah,
and some momentum and people being able to see the
forest for the trees here in the last three months
with this organization, with this particular front office, and now
all of a sudden signing a platoon thirty four year
(23:26):
old short side platoon outfielder is suddenly a wonderful thing.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
The Mariner fans and media are celebrating throughout the city.
It's hilarious.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
Well, and imagine being in the Mariner's front office, They're like,
wait a minute, guys, if we would have done this
years ago, we could have had this success years ago.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
We would have saved ourselves a lot of grief.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
We should remember this.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Now.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
The move itself, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I mean I do wonder how it is going to
impact others already on the roster, because I am imagining
that your right field is Ref Schneider and canzone splitting
that like just a full fledged platoon? Does that mean
Victor Roblaz is on the outside looking in? Does that
mean Victor Roblaze moves over to left field and a
(24:18):
Rose Arena who's not as good a defender becomes your
full time DH since you don't currently have one of
those people on the roster at this point. I don't
hate that idea. Is it a combination of all of it?
Is it just gonna be rotational? Julio plays every day
at center field, you know that. But the five of them,
(24:42):
because you also have Luke Rayley still in the picture here,
And I don't think we should give up on Luke Rayley.
I mean, he he had two really good years as
a Mariner and then he had a terrible one this
past year. It's not like he's thirty five years old.
He could bounce back from it. You know, maybe he's
a year older, maybe sleeping through the night. Maybe that's
what caused Luke Rayley to have a bad year this year.
(25:04):
Who knows.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
But between those five guys, you're.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
You know, can Zone, Refsnyder, Roeblaze a Rose Arena and
Rayley and you're rotating them through the two corner outfields,
and the DH with a Rose arena the only one
you're playing every day. Whether he's d H or left field,
whatever the case may be, but he plays every day.
So that that that to me, is the question that
(25:31):
comes out of this because there's no question that Rob
Refsnyder's going to play against left handers. That's the reason
that he's here. And I'll say this about him as well.
He came up as an infielder, became an outfielder. He's
kind of muscle bound and he's pretty athletic.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
He's thirty four years old. He's not the speed guy
he was once upon a time, but he is good
for like two show stopping sensational defensive plays single year.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Okay, and I don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
I haven't watched him enough to know if he consistently
plays like a gold Glove caliber outfield, but I'll tell
you this, he will make two of the best catches
you'll see all season long.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
He does it every damn year of his career.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
So I like it.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
But then I saw the merits to the Pollock move. Yeah,
and I saw the didn't love it. Didn't love the
Pollock move, didn't love the Garvor move.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
But I saw the merits to it. And that's how
I feel about Rev Snyder. I see the merits to
this signing, but there's no way to love this signing.
I don't think that it changes the entire game for
the Seattle Mariners. It's just a good, cheap, one year
signing that should make you a slightly better team.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
In certain situations than what you've been in the past.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
And I think once you've established yourself as a quality
we feel like we are a playoff team, and it's
about winning the World Series. Once you've established that, and
I think that's where we are, then little tiny moves
like this that are.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Just slight adjustments seem to score better.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah, with even the most frustrated a fan bases when
they feel when they do buy into all right, we're
moving in the right direction and now all of a
sudden something they've tried several times and everyone hated.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Now the reaction is great, move really smart.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Wow, these guys are genius, really clever. Wonder Jerry One
Executive of the Year.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Pres Nyer is a good player, kills lefties.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
I totally get why Dan Wilson's the top three a
Manager of the Year. Guys, they're really really onto something,
all right, and.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I think that it absolutely takes you out of the
running for anybody else outfield wise. I think right now
they're going to add another bat. It's going to be
a third basement or second basement, and maybe somebody that
does both.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
I think they are still the market for another bat,
one that could play every day. But I think you're
down to either third base or second base.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
That's it. That's the only mystery that remains. All right.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Coming up next on the radio program, before we bring
Hugh Milling up at nine o'clock, we'll just take a
look at that NFL playoff picture as it sort of
comes into focus. Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ
A R.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
F M.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Is the season to be.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I have been decided on how I want us to
get in to win the NFC West.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Okay, I'm ready.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yeah, here is the scenario that would tickle me most
in terms of winning the NFC West late on me.
I would like to beat the Carolina Panthers on Sunday.
We'll start there, check, okay, and then I want the
Rams and the forty nine ers.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
To both tie.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Okay, did not see that coming?
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yes, because in that situation, we could wrap this thing
up by Monday night.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Okay, if they both lose, then what would happen? Oh yeah,
we can do it that way too, But time makes
it funnier.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Time makes it much funnier.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Yeah, so they could both lose and we're good, but
they also actually I know that's that's actually not true.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I would take that back the forty nine ers even
with a Nope, that's not true. That's not true. No,
you're right, you're right.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Yeah, both of the loss, but two ties would also
get it done. So all right, that would be awesome.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
All right, I'm in sign me up. I will laugh
very hard if that happened.
Speaker 7 (29:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
So yeah, so there's a there's a lot at steak
heading into this weekend, and certainly a lot of different
moving pieces out there. Chicago can clinch the NFC North
Division title with a win or a Green Bay loss.
That either one of those things for them. Carolina, of course,
(30:16):
we've talked about quite a bit. They clinch with a
win and a Tampa Bay loss, and then ties do
come into play here.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I just don't want to go through all of this
and mentioning all the ties.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Right, you know they're unlikely, right.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
San Francisco is ahead of the Rams in the NFC
West based on division records, so San Francisco wins a
tiebreaker with the Rams where it doesn't look like we
would ultimately. And Minnesota is head of Detroit in the
NFC North based on head to head sweep but I
think that only actually comes down to draft positioning at
(30:54):
this stage because they are both eliminated. So that's what's
at stake in the NFC. In the AFC, the playoff picture,
Indianapolis is still alive, but they can't afford another loss,
So Indianapolis Houston clinches with a with either an Indianapolis loss,
which feels likely right now, or a Houston win against
(31:16):
the Los Angeles Chargers. But the Chargers have a lot
at stake as well, because the Chargers can still win
the AFC West. So but they're gonna have to win
against Houston this weekend Saturday, and then they're gonna have
to defeat Denver in the final week of the regular season.
So Denver sitting there with the best record right now
in the National Football League, and all they need to
(31:38):
do is that you have the Chargers lose Saturday, and
they've they're at.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
The top of the AFC West.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
New England win and a Buffalo loss puts the Patriots
in this weekend, So that means that Buffalo with a win,
still can pull this thing off in the AFC East.
So there are scenarios big picture where everything pretty much
(32:06):
can be decided this weekend.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
But there's also a scenario where almost.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Nothing is decided this weekend, and so the NFL once
as many puzzle pieces strewn about as they possibly can
have on the you know, Christmas Day floor for the
final week of.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
The regular season.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
And it would be hard to believe even though CBS
took the time to write an article about how Week
eighteen could be very uneventful. It could also be extremely eventful,
and you could have you know, ten games with playoff
ramifications this weekend. And of course they still haven't decided
who's going to play the last game of the year,
and the Seahawks are a strong.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Candidate for doing that. Yeah, and part of me the
Seahawks are guaranteed, well not guaranteed, but almost guaranteed of
having something at stake in Week eighteen.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
I would assume so.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
And part of me loves the idea of having Week
eighteen have so many awesome games that you're just glued
to the TV all weekend and can't get enough. But
part of me also loves the idea of having everything
wrapped up on Week seventeen and the NFL going, wow, crap,
no one cares about us on Week eighteen.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
What are we supposed to do?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Oh, we don't even have fantasy football on weekend?
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Yeah, that means no one's too need What are we.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Going to do if three trillion people don't watch? I
have a feeling we'll get about half.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
I think we're going to get about half the drama
that you could get for Week eighteen, and that's plenty.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
So yeah, we got a lot at.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Stake here in the Pacific Northwest and across the National
Football League, and we'll start figuring some pieces out tomorrow.
Two games tomorrow with some playoff ramifications, all right, Hugh
Mellon's next, Mike Sando at nine thirty. It's Chuck and
Ashley with you here on this Football Friday. Sports Radio
ninety three point three KJRFM
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