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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He's in gentlemen, Ladies and gentlemen, behold in producing six
one guard from Brighton, Illanois and former high school basketball
stand What in the hell does that?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Men jumped any conclusions?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Not a god, You've got to lower lower your expectations.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Hard to believe he could once send a fastball to Pluto.
Speaker 5 (00:21):
I'm getting some Bucky Jacobson vibes and former I'll just
openly admit I'm a fat, out of shape X athlete.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Now there's been a noticeable spike in your blood pressure.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Five seven guard and a former college water polo national chimpion.
Speaker 6 (00:35):
There's a lot of useless crap up here.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Wow, this is Chuck and Buck in the Morning with
Ashley Ryan. What do you buy to Lado Casino Resort
and Quilsea Creek draft KINI sports book where the action
never stopped?
Speaker 7 (00:50):
Ready, there you go, Hey, good morning, Welcome in.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
It is Chucking Buck in the Morning Sports Radio ninety
three point three k a r FM.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Here on a.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Wednesday, a home day and uh four Bucky Jacobson get
away day here today. So we're going four hours as
a show. Bucky not so much. And then it's.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Off yeah to Paradise, yeap Home Springs look out.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
You know, I've never been never been called California.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Is that right?
Speaker 5 (01:35):
I think the other way around? Oh is it Gakama
is the palm Springs of Washington. But I guess that
would mean tomato. Tomato probably is thin.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
It's nice.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
I've been there before. It's a little nicer than crack them.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
Yeah, I've been there a much rather.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
You've been there a lot, haven't you?
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Actually?
Speaker 8 (01:53):
Yeah? Like yeah, actually, because when I lived in California,
my friend had my friend's parents had a house out there,
so we would go there all the time.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
It's it kind of feels like an Ashley place. He
was like, Bucky's going to an Ashley.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
Place, And I support that. I love that for you.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
I'm real jealous. I was thinking about sewing away in
your suitcase.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Come on, let's go, let's go. We're leaving at nine.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
Or I just like, get like a piggyback.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, we can try that.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
That probably is hard to get a backpack, but we
could give her a shot.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Carry on just to carry on herself. Yeah, put a
handle on her yeah, carry on. It has legs.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Yeah, it walks itself.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Put a tag with your address.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Yeah yeah, and then you're done.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
Good to go, and I'll lay in the overhead bin.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Shush up, carry on, carry.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
Oh, that will be the problem. I probably won't be quiet.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
He's not gonna fit again beneath your seat. And why
does your carry on keep ordering drinks?
Speaker 6 (02:45):
Yeah, that's the other thing I was gonna say. And
this carry on will.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Drink yeah, uh, never mind. Imitation revoked.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Yeah, you know what, it was worth a shot.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
I don't know if you'd want to go. This is
it could be mayhem. This is a buddy, my buddy Benny.
He's he a p one. He's probably listening right now.
It's his fiftieth birthday party. And there's like fifteen or
twenty of us going down there. One house you're in
a gold right.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
One house for that must be a mansion.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
It's not a tiny place, so you're gonna.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
Have to send a picture of it.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
It's pretty nice. And yes, we're going to golf, a
couple of days of golf. They're golf in three days.
I'm coming back Saturday. I'm missing one day of the festivities,
but I figured after two days my check liver light
will be blinking, my body will be sore from golf
and not recuperating afterwards, the opposite of recuperating afterwards.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Probably, So when you land then today to forty okay, perfect,
you just hit that, you know, you know, you know,
right before sunset you're settled into the place and you're
off and running.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Uh huh cool.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
And when I say running, I mean drinking. Yes, yes, sprinting.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
And you're going on a.
Speaker 8 (03:56):
Perfect Bucky weekend too, because it looks like it's gonna
be seventy degrees is like your prime temperature next week
is gonna be eighty.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
So yeah, picture.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Perfect, friend, be perfect.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
I talked to another friend of mine that Ken that
lives down there, and he's like, yeah, it's little chilli,
you might. I'm like, eye, I have shorts and T shirts.
I do I have a jacket? I wear one here?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Wait?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I mean you have shorts on in a day like today. Yeah,
well you have Washington for good. I have pants on today.
But the convertibles if he knows that, convertibles. So I'm
wearing these for now and then I'll and then on
the plane riders zip them.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Pant legs come off.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Wow, strings go on nice and the party begins, and
then it's on I.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
Got to coats to work yesterday. Meanwhile, Bucky wears shorts.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Shorts.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Based on that description of Bucky's outfit for the weekend,
I'll say it again, Happy birthday, Benny.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Happy, you are welcome.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
We're sending Bucky he's your present.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
All right, Well, Ashley and I will stick it out
for all four hours. We don't have some exotic trip
planned afterwards, and so we'll take it till ten o'clock today.
And it is a hump day, and this is usually
when we start sinking our teeth into the seahawks next opponent.
We certainly have touched upon the Atlanta Falcons so far
this week, but today we start to really crystallize our
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thoughts on this matchup. I don't even know what we
did this. We did we even play this past weekend.
We didn't shut anybody out, did we?
Speaker 5 (05:23):
I think we did?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Oh yeah, we mostly shut out. That doesn't happen in
the NFL very often.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Usually we must have a pretty decent defense.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I would damn I've already moved on from it. Otherwise
maybe I would have known that. But the Hawks getting
ready to take on the Atlanta Falcons, and we did
mention this yesterday. It is the last of the games
that you absolutely should win, even though it's on the
road and without a problem. And then things, you know,
the rest of the way get a little tougher. Certainly
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certainly get tougher, and maybe you would even argue tough
down the stretch for the Hawks, and so take advantage
of this.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
You don't want to slip up here.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I mean, not only the Atlanta Falcons look bad in
the standings with their now what four and nine record
that they have this year, but they also are playing
their worst football right now, and it almost feels like
they're absolutely just playing out the string.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I mean, they lost to the Jets last week.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
They've lost six out of seven since beating the Buffalo Bills,
and people were wondering if Michael Pennix and the Falcons
were getting ready to take their next step, if finally,
if it was coming together for a team that a
lot of people, especially fantasy football players, have been thinking
should be better than what they've been the last couple
of years, and instead they started playing poorly. Then Michael
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Pennix Junior gets injured. He is out for the season.
Kirk Cousin steps in, and they have been as bad
as any team in the National Football League. And I
mean that they have been as bad as any team
out there here in the last two three weeks of
the NFL regular season. And so this is one that
the Seahawks just it's just put it under the you
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gotta take care.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Of business here category. Yeah, there's no other way to
put it. I mean, if you don't find a way,
even though it's on the road. Now, the nice thing
is that the Seahawks have played well on the road
under Mike McDonald, So I'm going to put that as
kind of a moot point. But if you can't go
on the road and beat a team that is significantly
less then and playing for significantly less than you are, yeah,
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then it would bring up a bunch of questions. Anything
can happen any given Sunday. There's a reason everybody says that,
and there's some truth to it. You don't you can't
go out there and think that there's got to be
some guys that on the other side that are going
to be playing like their career depends on it. But
at the same time, when you're in the middle of
a season, you'd get smacked in the mouth. It gets
tougher and tougher to get up when there's nothing really
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to get up for other than just to play out
the rest of that game, and then you hope to
recoup and get off to a good start the next game.
So to me, it's start off the way that we've
seen the Seahawks do it with stifling defense and the
offense's going out there and putting up some points. And
I have a feeling this team if they not roll
over necessarily, But I think you could impose your will
and make a statement well, and I.
Speaker 8 (08:09):
Think too you if you look at what was two
weeks ago with the Titans, I think that they would
say that second half wasn't great. And I don't think
that we'd see that again because I think obviously the
Atlanta is a better team than the Titans are. I
would assume that they're I'm not sure that they might
not be anymore. But you still you can't you let
your foot off the gas. You can't do what you
did against the Titans again. And I hope that they
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learned their lesson. I think they did well.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I mean, it's a completely opposite quarterback matchup. You went
from Max Brosmer making his first professional start ever to
Kirk Cousins, who's made a million of them. And yet
I'm not sure this isn't an even more advantageous matchup
for Mike McDonald's defense.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
And Kirk Cousins has had a heck of a career
and he seems like a heck of a guy, and
he has gotten by with his you know, by being
said sly and coy and you know, and he's overcome
the odds. I think Hugh Millon said at numerous times
he's probably the least physically gifted quarterback in the National
Football League. And yet look at the career, look at
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the touchdown passes he's thrown, look at the yardage that
he's racked up. But it is I can't remember the
last time. I guess you got to go back to
before he was a Falcon that he didn't look shaky
on a football field. And I mean, like I'm not
talking about for a game. I'm talking about like every
single pass like he has looked like he is he's
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just not reading things the way that he once did.
And maybe that is that he just you know, they
say that, like Eddie George, for example, was a phenomenal
running back, but they always said about him, he doesn't
have a step to lose, And when he lost his step,
he was done. He went from MVP candidate to he
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can't play anymore as soon as he.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Lost that step.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
And I'm and I kind of think that's what happened
with Kirk Cousins. When he got to Atlanta, he was
coming off that injury, he missed an entire season. They
obviously put him in the starting lineup despite taking Michael
Pennix Junior in the first round of the draft, and
he looked like he had never played football before for
practically an entire season. And so I don't know if
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Kirk Cousins really has it anymore. He can't he's not mobile.
Whatever arm strength he had that allowed him to be
successful in the National Football League, I think he's lost
a step. So even though he's got gile and moxie
and knowledge and know how and that certainly is a
weapon at the quarterback position in the National Football League,
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the way Mike McDonald's defense has been just terrorizing fools
here as of late, I'm not sure Kirk Cousins fares
any better than Max.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Brozmer this weekend, I wouldn't be surprised. You're right.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
I think that there's negatives on both sides of it. Inexperience,
our zero experience or so much experience that you maybe
have hit that ball. And you're right, before that injury,
before he went into it, he was doing some pretty
good stuff. He was kind of jumping around right Washington.
In Minnesota, he was he was the guy that jumped
around a bunch, but kind of was You would look
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up at the end of the year and like, it's
having a pretty good year. Now that hasn't been the
case since he's been in Atlanta and obviously lost his
job to Michael Pennix. I mean, I just there's still
this something in the brain that makes me think you
don't sleep on it. Because they got a good running
back in Bejon Robinson, Drake London is possibly going to
be back this weekend. They got Kyle Pitts. Now, I
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can on the other side of the argument, I can say, well,
you know, Drake London is not justin Jefferson and look
what he did last week against this defense, or you know,
I mean, I could sit there and say, you know, TJ.
Hawkinson could be just as good as Kyle Pitts, if
not better, So maybe that he'll be a non issue
as well. It just would be one where you you know,
I'm sure Mike McDonald's saying, we got to go out
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and still take care of business. If you take care
of business and get Kirk Cousins rattled a little bit,
I do think that unlike a lot lot of veteran quarterbacks,
he is very He's very susceptible to be rattled if
things start to go awry.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
And I know there are a lot of Husky fans
that obviously are Seahawk fans that on one hand kind
of glad that we're not facing Michael Pennix Junior and
on the other hand, disappointed because that means Michael's hurt
and maybe his career has hit a little bit of a.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Speed bump here going forward.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
We've talked about this before, it seems like a good
time to talk about it again. I think they just
really did this young man of disservice in the National
Football League. He's shown flashes of oh wow, that looks special,
just as you know, just as we thought that he would,
but he's not been as consistent. And you brought this
up a couple of weeks ago, those stories that were
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leaking out about he was asked like, who do you
turn to when you're struggling offensively, goes no one.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
There isn't anybody.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I mean, how do you not have a quarterback coach,
offensive coordinator that's not in the ear of Michael Pennick junior,
first full year, starting season in the National Football League
every single time he comes off the field, and he's
stating publicly, Raheem Morris didn't hire a guy like that here.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I mean, how does that happen.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
In the year twenty twenty five in the National Football League. Now,
maybe he's exaggerating that. Maybe Raheem Morris would have a
different story to tell. Maybe Michael Pennocks Junior, because I
know they have an offensive coordinator and I know they
have a quarterbacks coach there, maybe they would. Maybe they
were offended, maybe they're angry to this day that Michael
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Pennocks Junior dared say that because they're constantly in his ear.
But for a starting quarterback to make that statement seem
just illogical, and a lot of people had their difficulty
wrapping their head around it. I don't think Raheem Morris
is going to make it through this season. And I
think it's just malpracticed that the Atlanta Falcons, who have
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invested so much money and so much draft capital in
skill position apparently super talents like top ten picks for
a wide receiver and a running back and a quarterback,
and don't have an offensive guru on hand that is
maximizing the abilities. It's as if, no, we're gonna go,
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we'll score because of all that draft talent we drafted,
and then let's make sure we stop people on defense.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
That's the focus of our No, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
You have to maximize what you invested in, and I
don't think the Atlanta Falcons have done. Not only have
they not done a good job, they have done as
piss pour a job of it as you could even fathom.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Yeah, I mean, the idea of making all the draft
picks that they did, Kyle Pitts's was up there as
far as draft picks goes. You've spent a lot of
your draft capital and acquiring talent on the offensive side,
and then you basically give the chef that is supposed
to cook with those ingredients. You pick a chef that
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doesn't that's not the meals that he cooks. Yeah, he
doesn't make a whole lot of more.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
We have drafted you a lot of steak here, Rahim, Oh,
I forgot to tell you.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I only make fried chickens. I'm a vegan. Yah.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Yeah, what's that steak?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Just put that off to the side, don't. It'll cook itself.
I think that there's.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Something to that. I will also say that there's something
to you. You have got to be able to be
coached by everyone that you come across, and that doesn't
that's not just coaches, that's your teammates, that's people that
were there before, that's the alumni that you walk past
in the rooms. You got to be able to absorb it.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Now.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
I think that Michael Pennix was able to do that
and is able to do that. We watched him basically
move from Indiana to here to you know, and then
onto the NFL, and he obviously was able to pick
up new stuff from new coaches once he got here.
We witnessed that. So I don't think that he's uncoachable
mating stretch. I would say that, yes, there's some to that.
And there's also some to he's you know, his first
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full season, he was maybe making some mistakes that you know,
other rookie quarterbacks would make as well, and then unfortunately
got hurt to where now you're not getting to see
what it would look like for him to go through
the growth and figure out from the coaches and just
what he would do on his own as far as
what type of adjustments he would make to his own game.
Speaker 8 (16:15):
I would just picture though, Yeah, every time he comes
off the field, like what you're saying, there's somebody that's
sitting with him on the bench looking at their little
Microsoft surface figuring out whether it was good or bad
that drive, looking through Okay.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
This is what you did, Well, this is what you didn't.
Oh look, did you see this? Did you see that?
Speaker 8 (16:30):
Just because that's you know, everything moves so quickly, So
help him to expand on everything because that you, as
you said, you've invested so much.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
I don't know why they wouldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
And maybe it's a shot at kirk Cousins, going back
to the maybe.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I mean, kirk Cousin's been described as like the greatest
teammate and the greatest dude in the National Football League
the last few years. But there's no doubt he was hurt. Yeah,
I mean, his wife has admitted as much in a
reality television show that he was hurt that he.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Signed this free agent deal with Atlanta and they went.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Immediately out and drafted a quarterback in the first ten
picks of the first NFL draft where he was on campus. Yeah,
and so maybe Kirk Cousins hasn't been a good backup
to Michael Pennick's junior.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
As well, but it has been. It is, it is.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
It has been a rudderless ship, and that ship has
crashed on the shores for the Atlanta Falcons. And they
don't even have a first round draft pick this year.
It goes to the Rams for goodness sake, Thanks a lot, Falcons. Yeah,
but you did so. It's it's kind of a mess.
I mean, a couple of weeks ago even gave a
rise to the thought that, you know, the way Clint
Kubiak and the Seahawks offense was humming, like is that
a marriage? This offseason, do the Falcons see that. I
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think They're definitely going to get rid of Morris after
this year. I think they're definitely going to get an
offensive guy to come in there next year. So is rahem,
excuse me, is Clint Kubiak somebody that would be on
the radar of the Atlanta Falcons as their next head coach.
Then again, Clint Kubiak the last three weeks and the
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offense hasn't been as good a here in Seattle, and
that's something that happened to him in New Orleans a
year ago as well. So there's something to read into
there also. But we'll talk about that topic as the
week progresses. But the Atlanta Falcons the matchup and certainly
a game that we need to put a w behind
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this one and then get ready for that stretch drive
against some quality competition to see just how high up
the rankings the team can get. All Right, speaking of that,
let's go ahead and find out what is on tap
for today's show.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
What's on to?
Speaker 5 (18:39):
What's on to?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
All Right? Seahawks head Atlanta Sunday at ten.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Greg bel joins US at seven o five this morning
to discuss the matchup. On a hump day, Thursday night
football will start the brand new week in the National
Football League, and from fantasy perspective, a very huge week
for most people. This is the last week of the
regular season. Dallas at Detroit tomorrow night is a fun
Thursday night matchup. We'll play some Factor fiction today seven
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thirty five. I was going to say it was Ashley's
last pick, but that's not true with Bucky's flying.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
Away to the Benny Birthday Bash. So it was Bucky's
last pick.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yeah, that was Bucky's last pick yesterday, So Ashley I
have a couple more she'll pick today at seven thirty five.
It's college football conference championship week. The championship games will
happen on Friday and Saturday. The big ones will all
happen on Saturday, so we'll certainly spend some time previewing that.
Cam Cleveland's going to join us today at eight o'clock
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to recap the huskies regular season as it is now
cemented with an eight and four record. College football playoff
rankings came out last night, the penultimate college football playoff rankings.
Obviously some interesting stuff to pour over there, which we'll
do coming up at six thirty. It is National signing
Day in college football, so time to bring in the
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dog man guys or guy in this case, Scott Eckland
will join US today at nine o'clock, we'll talk about
what you Dub has done in their recruiting off season
and what might still get done today on National Signing Day.
Kalani Sataki has told Penn State, I'm staying at BYU
so it can happen. You can like where you are
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and then coach your team that you can poured so
much into all the way to the end of the season.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
It's possible. I guess it's possible. You're just saying it's possible.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
College basketball, you Dub host UCLA tonight at eight o'clock.
Kraken and the Oilers will play tomorrow. Al Kiniski joins
US at nine to thirty this morning. And the Winter
Meetings are just four days away, and yes, we will
spend a little bit of time kind of fantasizing about
who we could trade for during Winter Meetings week. But
coming up next on the show, we'll talk about the
latest from the college football playoff rankings selection. Sunday is
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coming up. It's Chuck Inbox Sports Radio ninety three point three.
K Paul for you to love this college football playoff
ranking drama, oh man, it is. It's really interesting right
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now and for you that can't stand it and just
want to see the bracket and let's get some games going. Well,
you don't have much longer to wait. You only got
one more of these suckers. It's coming up on Sunday,
Selection Sunday.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
I'm excited about that one. This one. I mean, I
like the conversations that are surrounding. It's just it's just
there's so much there's so much minutia, there's so much
stuff that goes into it. I was listening on the
way in today and they were talking about how basically ESPN,
you know, they're doing this to promote themselves and promote
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the playoffs, and yet they're in bed with the SEC
and so then there's favoritism, whereas dudes this SEC need favoritism.
They're already I think everybody gives them credit that it's
the toughest top to bottom, you know, maybe the most
talent filled conference out there. So there, so there probably
is some of that, but how much and does it
actually affect things too much or is it just the
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way that it's supposed to be. It's just like, okay,
I just want to figure out who it's going to be. Hopefully,
you know, the team that I'm cheering for does wind
up on the outside, or you know, the chain I'm
cheered for doesn't wind up on the outside of the bubble.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
But we shall see.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Well, I mean, the idea behind the committee is that
it is supposed to be impartial. That's the whole idea
behind a committee. And Kirk Herbstreet and Nick Saban and
others have zero say over what's going.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
To happen in that room. That's the theory.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
It's probably naive to think that politics don't become involved.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, And even if they don't, even if.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
It's perfectly crystal clear, it's the purest thing in the
history of sports.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
The nature of the sports fan is to think you're
getting all a favoritism to the team that's not mine.
You know, that's just the nature of the sports fan.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Certainly always, I would think even more heightened today. But
I mean, I mean, Alabama got left on the outside
looking in for all the favoritism that they're supposed to
be showing.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
The sec they put SMU over Alabama last year.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
That's just a year ago, okay, And right now you've
got a chance where Notre Dame could end up getting
knocked out of this thing. Yeah, nobody's shedding a tier
because if you're not an Irish fan, you hate the Irish.
But but there's a chance they don't even make And
that's as good a brand, might be, even a better
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brand than Alabama when it comes to college football. Right,
they had their own network deal before conferences had their
own network deals, and so I mean that's that's the
most sizzling brand in all of college football history. And
yet if BYU wins over Texas Tech, Notre Dame's out.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
They're not making it into the College football playoffs.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I mean, they just got jumped by Alabama last night
from ten to nine. So they are the last team
in at large. Wise, assuming that Virginia beats Duke and
the ten line is the end of the at large teams,
eleven will be a conference champion, twelve will be a
conference champion. The ten spot is I mean, you're on
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the bubble. That's as bubbly as it gets right there.
And if BYU beats Texas Tech, Texas Tech's not falling
out of this thing. Most likely it's going to be
Notre Dame because Notre Dame did not put anything at
risk because they're not in a conference.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Even Brady Quinn.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Said as early as a few minutes ago, we're going
to get screwed over because we've chosen not to be
in a conference. And if you're not going to be
in a conference, you have to be dominant against your opponents.
And as long as they continue to keep Army, Navy,
Stanford all.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Of their favorite little rivalries on.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Their schedule and don't join a conference, they're going to
be viewed as not having to face the gauntlet that
SEC teams face weekend and week out and to a
lesser extent Big ten teams face weekend and week out.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, and I think rightfully.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
So if you want to do the whole non conference thing,
then you're gonna have to pay the price, because, yeah,
you have a couple games in there. Usually that there
are good games that you kind of consider yourself like, okay,
good job, you're going up against somebody tough there, and
then you have others where you don't end up playing
anybody that's of significance. And so it should be when
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it comes out in the wash and your entire resume
is out on the table, then you should be it
should be a downgrade or a minus put beside that,
and if you play yourself at ten and two to
where you're sitting on the bubble and somebody else gets
to go out and improve their resume, now it's odd
the whole conference championship. I do think I'm with you.
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I think that it probably is unlimited days because it
feels like you can benefit yourself but you can't really
harm yourself, or that that's what it seems that that's what.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
People are pushing for. I'm not sure that's true, but
there are people at ESPN who are pushing for that
to be true. I'm not sure that is true.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I'm not sure. I don't think that should be true.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
You actually gave got a shot to get into the
tournament unscathed and you blew it. That should factor in
to me into the conversation if you are right now
being viewed as one of the teams on the bubble,
and Alabama, Notre Dame, BYU, and Miami are all considered
and Texas are all considered teams on the bubble right now.
Speaker 8 (26:42):
Yeah, I heard Brady talking this morning two saying it's
got to be a lesson for Notre Dame, right ten
and two, isn't good enough. You have to be eleven
and one or better if you want to have a
chance at this. I think personally, Notre Dame probably doesn't
have to worry because last time BYU and Texas Tech
played buy you didn't show up.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
True, So but we'll see. You still have the Miami factor.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Yep, you do have that, you know, and and Miami
is you know, they have a difference now because Miami
keeps inching up as Notre Dame keeps inching down. So
now you're ten and twelve. That's where you are in
the latest college football playoff rankings. Two teams with identical records,
one that plays in a conference, one that doesn't, and
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one of them did beat Notre Dame head to head,
even though technically Notre Dame doesn't have as bad a
loss as Miami does at home by double digits against Louisville. Okay,
so and all of that factors in the committee will
never admit this. But what I think the committee behind
closed doors is secretly hoping for is for Duke to
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beat Virginia. And Duke doesn't make the tournament. So there
is this little wrinkle in the rules that the ACC
conference champion is not. The SEC conference champion is not
guaranteed a spot. It's the four. The best of five
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gets in. But if the best of five is team
is ranked higher than one of the Power four conference champions,
then you don't have to include all four of the
Power conference champions. So Duke would have an eight to
five record even with a win over Virginia. Right now,
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they're not even in, they're not even receiving votes. They're
not in the top twenty five right now. And the
idea that they could leap James Madison, North Texas, and Tulane,
who are all in the top twenty five because they
beat Virginia, I mean, Heather Dennich just said that's possible,
but it's probably not going to happen. So that would
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give the College Football Playoff Committee to the opportunity to
say we're going to keep the ACC conference champion in
or see me out. And that gives us the opportunity
to put Miami in, so we don't piss off of
the ACC by leaving the conference out entirely, we put
a better team into the tournament. We don't have to
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make this Notre Dame versus Miami decision. We'll put them
both in and that's the best world for us. BYU
loses to Texas Tech, that's the best world for us.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
That's the easiest world. That's where we take it in
the shorts.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
The least from you know, from the public, you know,
telling us we're idiots is if that scenario unfolds, we
can justify that to pretty much everyone, including Duke.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
And to be honest, as much as I'm cheering for
Miami to not get in, I don't know why. There's
just really one reason I never heard that.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Yeah, Michael, I didn't.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
I mean I didn't used to really care, but now
I really don't like them. And so I mean that
because then you'd get what the winner of the Twulane
North Texas game would get in in that that twelve spot,
probably right, And so to me that makes that makes
a bunch of sense. I think the whole goal of
this thing is to get the best teams in there, right.
(30:06):
I mean I get that. I love the fact that
there is teams that James Madison that can have a chance, Right,
But if it's like James Madison, considering who you play,
you pretty much run the table, right If you're going
to be that Boise State. If you're going to be you,
you can't afford to really lose anything. And so because
of the way lost something, yeah a loss, and so
to me, it's like, if you want to get in
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and you're one of those big time underdogs, then you
got to just be like, we haven't lost, and so
you creep your way into the backside of this thing
because otherwise, yeah, you're talking about putting somebody like that
in instead of a team that you know has a
good a good resume.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Well, I mean, if it's not great putting Texas in,
leaving Texas out considering how great a schedule that they
opted to play this year, and putting a two lane
in with two losses.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
I mean that it's going to be a conversation. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
The idea behind having the group of five guaranteed spot
wasn't really to promote letting a ten.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
And two team get in.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
It was to make sure that like an undefeated UCF
season never gets denied its opportunity to show if their
undefeated season was the real deal. I think we're not
going to have conference championships for much longer, and I
also think they will tweak that aspect of this going forward,
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where it's not a guaranteed spot for the Group of
five champion, it's going to have to go to a
team that is ranked at a certain spot, or you
can't have more than one loss, something like that. They'll
figure out a component. Yeah, yeah, and so I think
that that will be weeded out eventually because, believe me,
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even if everything falls the Committee's way, they're still going
to have that conversation.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Of how could you put Tech on the outside.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
When they faced Ohio State at the beginning of the
air had the ball the face Ohio State at the
beginning of the year, and you're putting in ten and
two tu Lane. Yeah, that conversation, that will be the
conversation even if everything, all the cookies crumble the way
that the Committee wants it to, because there's no way
to put Texas in right now.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Yeah, under the parameters that they're going with, that's probably
the way that it's going to go. And yet I
agree they'll tweak that the backside of those guaranteed getting in.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
You know, I know, we know just had Thanksgiving. I
know that people get sick of the holidays, but we
got another one starting on Sunday, so we better talk
about it. Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ R FM.
I also want to be acknowledged for the Winter Meetings
gift as well.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
I don't think you've ever heard that.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
No, I heard it all the time.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Yeah yeah, anybody listening right now whose birthdays coming up
this upcoming week, they'll tell you every time. I just
get birthday gifts and I don't get Winter Meetings gifts.
I don't get Winter Meetings acknowledgment. So it sucks for
people that were born on a holiday.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
One of my sisters, Michelle, born in December before Christmas,
and she would complain a lot because she likes to
complain about Yeah, it wasn't quite the same because it
was you know, still had their turkey hangover and then
they were looking forward to Christmas. She never though, mentioned
that the Winter Meetings were taking.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
There might be an atheist toward baseball. Oh yeah, yeah,
that's p I'm not saying that. Everybody.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
He knows that. They're people that just don't like baseball,
you know, fools. Sorry, sorry about your sister.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
That's the case, then maybe they don't even acknowledge the holiday.
But the Winter Meetings start on Sunday, and so I
just want a public service announcement. Just because you've got
a loved one whose birthday falls during the Winter meetings,
please separate the two. Give them winter meetings gifts, give
them a birthday gift. Don't make him feel like the
two of Blende.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
You know you're very thoughtful. Yeah, that's very thought.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
Making winter meetings a holiday.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Yeah, you know they're not. It's not as great a
holiday as it used to be. I don't know what's happened.
I think we've lost our joy, but we just don't
see as much activity. But it has been such an
interesting off season to this point. I mean, we have
seen some fascinating moves from Sonny greg And traded to
the Red Sox, to the Marcus Simeon Brandon Nimo old
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school veteran for veteran, not a player for prospects move,
which is what we mostly get in the sport of
baseball now. But you know, we have too many left
handed veteran hitters and we could use a solid right hander.
And then Texas is getting rid of a lot of
outfielders this year, and so they make the move.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I mean that that move was made a couple of
weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
We've already had the Josh Naylor re signing, We've already
had a big free agent signing and Dylan c So
the off season even though it does move it at
snail's pace compared to all the other free agency frenzy
can never call major League Baseball free agency frenzy.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
No, No, it doesn't really get frenzied. I mean we'll
get in the spring training in there, it'll be seven
top guys, like, I don't know where I'm gonna go.
It's like free agency far around is what it is. Yeah,
just farten around until the season gets here. Yeah, and
that doesn't have a good ring to it, terrible ring. Yeah,
hard to make a holiday about that part.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
And around free agency every time though.
Speaker 8 (35:30):
Yeah, the song could just be fart noises, especially.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
When you get some really sophisticated like uh, you know graphics.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yes, yeah, free agency far.
Speaker 6 (35:40):
Around, and it's like we all, I don't think that
was going to get stolen.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
I don't think that idea is going to get stolen.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
So uh, and even the Mariners are out ahead of it.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
I mean, we've already had a better off season we
had last off season with Josh Naylor re signing sounds
like Hora Polanco is certainly the next priority, and I
think that most people want that to happen, want that
to occur.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
But there is a chance.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
There are a lot of names being floated around out
there trade wise heading into this week. That's really what
the Winter meetings are about, to strike trades, because you've
got the general managers in the building all at the
exact same time. I mean, you can deal with the
free agent at any time, but when you were, you know,
you're having drinks with aj Preller, why not strike up
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a trade, right, you.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
Know, maybe get Hi an extra tequila shot.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah, what you want? You double dipped in the avocado
real dip? Now will you give me? You know, Manny Machado.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
I mean, I'm gonna tell everyone that you're gross and
around dips.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
So we'll see. But there's a lot of names flying around.
Brandon Donovan of the Saint Louis Cardinals. I was gonna
spend a little more time on Byron Buxton, but we
don't really have it. From the Minnesota Twins. The Twins
apparently are shopping three star players, including two pitchers.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
I'd be more interested in the hitter, but we'll see,
we'll see.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
I'm not really expecting anything from the Mariners big next
week beyond maybe Polanco re signing, But you never know
with this organization.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
That's for damn sure.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
Well I'd be down with a little bit of an
addition there. I like the idea of Buxton. I know
you've loved him for years, and if maybe bring him
in and just let him DH. Hopefully you can stay
healthy doing that.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Little DH little probably play some right field for you.
That'd be a hell of an outfield.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean thirty home run guy, probably thirty
five last year.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
If he can stay healthy, he's a thirty thirty plus. Yeah,
sign me up.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
All right.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
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