January 16, 2024 • 46 mins
Tony Castricone returns to give his reaction to Jedd Fisch’s press conference. Jedd Fisch sits down w/ the guys to talk about the future of this Huskies football program and more. We close w/ Ian Furness as he gives his insight on Jedd Fisch taking over after Kalen DeBoer left for Alabam, plus Ian shares what he has planned for his show.
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Now back to Sofie and Dick onSports Radio ninety three point three KJRF O
Washington Huskies. See, I'll crackit. We're home for the Huskies.
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ninety three three kjr FN. Well, the voice of the Huskies was just
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sitting with us listening to this pressconference for the past hour or so.
Tony castro Cone back with us onthe air, So would you make it?
What you heard from Troy and fromJetfish and even some thoughts from Jeff
Beck told as well the sid well, I think that no one held back
with the questions, right, Imean, he had to answer the tough
questions, and I thought he dida really good job. I mean,
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he was transparent. It's tough whenit's tough when people, you know,
aspire to get to a place likethis and then the local folks say like,
hey, was Washington your dream job? Well, you know, I
mean, look, he wants togo win national championships as a head coach,
and he has climbed and grinded throughouthis entire career to put himself in
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position to do that. Now he'sat a place that's got two of them
and was a few plays away fromgetting number three just a few days ago.
Right, So I think that youknow, what I really liked hearing,
probably more than anything else, wasfrom ad Troy Dannen and just that
word aspirational. What does the Universityof Washington aspire to be? You know,
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quite frankly, softy, you andI've had these conversations over the years.
You look around the PAC twelve andsome of the programs there, and
you wondered what some of those programsaspired to be. You want to be
aligned with folks that aspire to winnational championship. Jedfish does, many of
the programs in the Big Ten do, and I think Annamari Cawsey, president
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of U dub and AD Troy Danenare doing everything they can to make this
a place that continues to aspire tobe great and attract the people that want
to come here to be great.You can't chain people down forever, as
much as sometimes we'd like to,but I think you can make this as
attractive of a destination as possible.I think that's the hard work that's been
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done. And I think Jedfish seesall that. I mean, that's what
I heard. He sees the potentialin this place, and that's all you
can really ask. I feel betterthan I did before the press conbrace Tony
because I don't feel like I wassold a bill of goods. Yeah,
I mean, I felt like itwas authentic, it was honest, and
he didn't say he was going tostay here forever. No, but Troy
dan And use the word maniacal todescribe as recruiting yep. Rick Neuheisel when
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he was on the Morning Show todayused the word unrelenting, and I guess
New Age college football you gotta lookshort term and maniacal and unrelenting in getting
talent. In is a pretty goodplace to start looking if you're looking short
term. Well, okay, let'sthink about this, and you know,
I don't even want to hint ofanything otherwise, but you you're you brought
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it up. Let's say that anNFL job opens that is interesting to Jetfish
in three years. Right, ifhe has stalked this cupboard with that maniacal
recruiting and the type of players thatwe know the University of Washington can and
has attracted over the years, thenyou don't feel so bad when the next
person comes in and is able tomaintain all those four star guys and you
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feel like the cupboard is stalked andyou're ready to go out there and continue
to compete for Big ten championships innational championships. And so, you know,
I thought Troy kind of said itfrom the very top today's day and
age, you gotta get someone thatis going to go recruit, recruit,
recruit. Jetfish has shown that he'sdone that over the course of three years.
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And he also kind of relate tohis NFL experience about the way that
NFL teams if they're really going tobe successful, got to build through the
draft, right and and not justnot just picking out a free agency all
the time. And so you know, we are learning about his philosophy based
on those things that he said andgot to say excited, excited to see
you know, guys, I'm justputting we're all just reacting to this right
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now and just trying to put piecestogether. I'm curious, based on this
unique situation. The Dogs are insixty three scholarship players right now, if
they're not going to push spring ballall the way back until you know,
a spring game might be in midMay, they get players here so they
can get some folks in in thespring quarter. Yeah, and you know,
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maybe use the portal to build thatout. I think that'd be a
great question for Jed when he's on. But I mean springball, I'm real
curious how that's gonna work. No, for sure. And look, I
mean I thought he had a homerun at the press conference. I told
Dick dot on the air. Itweeted that I thought he said all the
right things. And you know,I mean there's a there's some sco that
Husky fans are dealing with right now, and I'm glad that he addressed those
scars. I thought that was great. He said, look, this stuff
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happened, the team was great,and then the roster got blown up,
and him admitting it's going to looktotally different than what it looked like a
year ago. I just appreciated thehonesty out of him, for sure.
I'm curious to know because like PeteCarroll Dick. He mentioned Pete a couple
times today, right, and thefact that there's a relationship there with him
is awesome. Pete Carroll clearly hada difference in philosophy from his Jet Patriot
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days to his USC and Seahawk days. What's different about this guy? Right,
He's been at this for a longtime. He's been at what eight
or nine different stops since two thousandand eight. How was he a different
coach today than he was when hewas, you know, thirty years old.
He never played high school or collegefootball, which is crazy. This
is the first time ever I everhad a Hosky coach play that never played
the game. So it's almost thenew wave, right, the analytics wave
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in some ways, the marketing wave. But I want to know what is
he doing differently. Now, whathas he discovered about himself that he did
not know fifteen years ago? Yeah, can't wait to hear. Good question.
A tough one for me to kindof to freelance off. But I'll
just build on what your you canhandle it well. To build on what
you're saying, I think that whole, that whole, I don't know,
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prototype of the head coach that you'relooking for a place like this twenty years
ago has has changed pretty drastically.Like you got a guy in Kaitlyn de
Bore that came in here that hadreally never coached at a high level,
and not just that, the wholestaff that he put around him, vast
majority of that staff and never coachedbeyond like fcs. You know, I'm
thinking about edge coach Eric Schmidt,who like was it North Dakota, right,
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I mean, and those guys camein here and went twenty five and
two to get to the National ChampionshipGame, And so, you know,
I think people are opening their mindsa bit. You don't necessarily have to
look. I agree this role ismuch more of a corporate CEO role than
it is just you know, highschool football coach whistle around the next screaming
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at people tell them to take theirsalt tablets after practice, Like this is
a different role. Now. Youneed to build a staff of seventy people
around you, and you have tobe able to lead in a certain direction.
You have to have a vision,you have to sell it. And
so you know, I think Jetfishhas done that really successfully in as short
time as a head coach. Well, he raised a good point. He
said, there's twelve to fourteen teamsthat can win a national championship each year,
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and we're one of them. Andhe couldn't have said that at Arizona,
And you've got twelve spots in theplayoff each and every year. So
I'm thinking that you know, thismight be the new wave and that these
schools and we're one of them.As long as you don't have a problem
at head coach, as long asyou have a head coach that at least
taken you in the right direction,that Washington football almost recruits itself. Not
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to say that Jetfish doesn't have abig job on his hands, particularly right
now with sixty five scholars and athletes, But once he gets back on track,
Washington football plays at a certain levelthat most teams don't play it.
And you know, I'm not tryingto be naive about this or anything.
I know that the relationship a recruitbuilds with the head coaches of utmost importance.
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I get all that. But alsoyou know, and you just hope
kids are getting the best advice possible. They got to know that coaches do
move around a lot. But whenyou go and look at a place you
want to be, that you wantto consider as an opportunity. You got
the greatest setting in college football.You've got the number two public university in
all of America. You've got thecity of Seattle. You've got the alumni
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base and all the corporations that youcan build connections with. You've got Montlake
futures, You've got Montlake players,You've got all this stuff here. You
got a national championship runner up currently, and all of that stuff stays here
regardless of who's running the program.So that's the way it's got to be.
Not for sure, I mean,look, this is obviously just it's
just a weird time. It's aweird time, and everything will settled down
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and everything will be just fine,because Washington football is always fine. Look,
man, We've been through it all, right. We were there for
every stinking game in two thousand andeight, when this football team did not
win a game, going on theair for postgame shows, we could not
get a call on the air becausenobody gave a damn. And here we
are now sixteen years and you've madetwo final fours since then, You've won
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the Sugar Bowl, you got asecond place finisher for the Heisman Trophy,
and it finished number two in thecountry. Washington football is always gonna be
fine. The only question is whenand how long? And I get impatient,
right, you guys know me,right, I want everything right now.
And the bummer about to bord thatyou thought you were building something with
this guy that could be sustainable fora long long time. Maybe things will
be better. Maybe this guy comesin and does everything we thought Kaylor would
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do in more. Who knows.Yeah, well, look, Washington has
won for over one hundred years.Yeah, you know, I talked about
it before. I'll talk about itagain. The cemetery between the nineteen twenty
three team and the twenty twenty threeteam, one hundred years apart, the
first ever trip to the Rose Bull, the first conference championship the first yeah,
you know, I mean one hundredyears later to beat Oregon to go
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to the Sugar Bowl, to getto the national championship. Washington has been
a place that's been winning at footballfor over one hundred years. It'll continue
to win at football. I worryabout the health of the sport because there's
some things going on that just seemson sustainable. Sure, but you know,
the investment is there, and Ijust think that that looking around the
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sun's out in January. I mean, it's incredible, and I think Jed
Fish sees this, he sees theopportunity, and he's all in, Yeah,
all right, man, go gethim. We'll talk soon, Buddy,
appreciate good dogs. Go dogs.Tony Casher, come with us on
the radio show. We have alot to get to obviously from here on
campus. Coach Fish is meeting withthe media behind us right now doing all
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his TV stuff. So we're goingto break in just a couple of minutes
here and get him back on theshow and ask him the questions that we
want to ask him. You know, I want to talk about kind of
how has he changed, how ishe a different man now, a different
coach? Now than he was twentyyears ago. You know, what are
his recruiting philosophies, You know whatis his defensive staff going to? Look
like I saw where Bruce Feldman's tweetingthe Kevin Cummings, who was his wide
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receivers coach at Arizona, who alot of people think is crucial to keeping
Fafita and McMillan and those guys onthe roster in Tucson. Feldman saying he's
in Seattle right now. That doesn'tmean he's going to be higher, but
he's in Seattle right now. Solook, I mean, I think it's
stinks, Dick, that you're almostkind of rooting for what happened to Washington
to happen to Arizona. But it'seither kill or be killed. And Tony's
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exactly right. There's a lot ofthings about this game that are not sustainable.
But until then, what are yousupposed to know? Those assistants should
come with them, just like Kaylen'sassistants should go with Kaylan, right,
I mean, that's they're a family, they're a group. I mean,
you just move Washington staff to Alabama, move a few of those players to
Alabama. That's just that's the wayit happens. And in the same should
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they I mean, same should happenwith here. I mean I would love
the skill position players of Arizona tocome here next. Sure. Sure,
And look, let's be honest withyou. I can admit to you,
and I did this the other nighton social media, Dick, I can
admit that there's a lot of thingsabout college football that are absolutely messed up.
Perhaps a lot of things about collegefootball that are messed up. But
you know what, in the end, it's all about me, it really
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is. It's all about my program. Everybody is in it for themselves.
Cougar fans should be in it forBobs. Ducks should be in it for
Ducks. Beeves should be in itfor Beaves, and Husky fans should think
totally one track minded about themselves,which is why they went to the Big
Ten one hundred percent. We talkedabout this the day that USC and UCLA
left that from that point on,Jen Cohen Ana Markow say everything they did
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needed to be totally completely selfish,and they did that. We're gonna break.
We got a lot more to getto, including a conversation with the
new head coach of your Husky footballteam. Jetfish canna join us in a
matter of minutes right here on ninetythree three KJRFM. Now back to Sofie
and Dick on Sports Radio ninety threepoint three KJRF, Washington Huskies. See
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you were home for the Huskies,and all right, boys and girls back
here on Mot Lake. What aday, what a week, What a
crazy, crazy week for Husky footballfans. And finally we can kind of
settle down a little bit and kindof move this thing forward. I gotta
tell you, Dick, my momis very thrilled with this next tire because
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she said we got a Jewish kidfrom Jersey. She's fired up for that.
So I want you to know,coach, you made my mom very
very happy, exciting. That's great, big time. Well, it's good
to see. Welcome to Seattle,first of all. And then second of
all, man, just tell meabout what today has been like for you,
the last couple of days, goingback to the phone call from you,
dub on Saturday, the last seventytwo hours or so, for you
and your family, your kids.What's this world wouldn't have been like for
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you? Yeah, it's been.It's been crazy, I guess is the
right word to say. It's emotional. Yep. Certainly, there's always been
that it's very hard to say goodbyeto something you love. And I said
that earlier. And we loved ourtime the last three years, and we
committed everything we had to turning thatprogram around and then showing up here the
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excitement and the joy that brings withnew opportunity, and then all of a
sudden it became all smiles and everyonewas happy. And then we kind of
went back and in our head andwhat happened if and then you know,
today was kind of the culmination.Today was the day that it's now we're
taking that starf forward and we areHuskies and we loved our time. We
appreciate it, but we're ready toroll. It's such a weird situation even
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to be here. I mean,your eight days removed from a national championship
game and now here's a new coach. And I thought you had and I
mentioned this on the year after yourpress Coverarge, I thought you had a
palpable sense of honesty to you andI and I really do appreciate that.
What would you say to Husky fansthough, that are really hurting right now?
I mean they are hurting. Theylost a national championship game, then
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they lost their head coach three dayslater. Yeah, that's hard. I
don't even know what to what tosay to him other than give us a
shot. Yeah, give us ashot to let us, you know,
work off of what he did anddo it our way. And you know,
there's this is the world we're inright now, and we can't control
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that. We can't control what happenedin the game against Michigan. Ye we
don't. You know, that game'sover. We can't control what happened when
coach Shaban retired. That happened.And we can't control what happened when the
hired coach to Boor. So nowit's a situation where we're here. We're
gonna give it everything we have.We're gonna build this program the way we
want to build it, which is, I would really say, our way,
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and we're gonna have some ups anddowns when we're doing that. But
I can't build it his way.I can't sustain it his way because I
don't know what his way was,right, So we're gonna have to do
it theirs. Well, I'm gladthat you mentioned it's not your fault,
because I was gonna blame you forthe fourth down miss to a Doonesday by
the way, in the first halfof that game. So I'm glad that
you're saying it's not your fault,but Jetfish is with us and coach,
I'm I'm curious because you mentioned PeteCarroll a couple of times. We gotten
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to know Peede obviously very well inthe last fourteen years or so. He
clearly had a philosophical change in hisapproach from his Jet Patriot days to his
USC Seahawk days. What about you, How are you a different coach than
the guy that maybe we would havebeen talking to ten fifteen years ago.
Oh well, I could say thebiggest thing is experience and what you've what
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you've been around, and who you'vebeen around. And you know, I
was offered or I interviewed for theArizona job in twenty eighteen and didn't get
the job at the end of twentyseventeen and wound up working for Sean mcvahan
Bill Belichick instead, And so I'ma lot better coach than if I did
get the job in twenty eighteen.So I had that experience then, you
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know, you get the job inArizona in twenty one, and you know,
you battle. You go from onewind to five to ten, and
you learn each each day how todo it, how to do it differently,
how to do it better. SoI would just say I've completely changed.
I understand what's important. I thinkmore and what is what is important?
I think less is best. Youknow, you need to figure out
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what your values are. For us, it's respect and accountability, integrity,
selflessness, and enthusiasm. And ifwe can take those mindset, we don't
need a million rules. We don'tneed to come to a place that everything's
all about you know this this this, this is live in the world of
respect, living the world of accountability, and have fun. You know,
have joy. We talked to ourteam about joy. I think I have
much more join now than I didfifteen years ago. Although being with Pete
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brought a lot of joy, butthat was rare and unique at that time.
No one had that personality of twentyten. So to be able to
see that you can be you,I think that would be what Pete would
say that he that changed him fromhis times to Jets and Patriots's time at
USC and then at Seattle was hewas him. He was him, and
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that's what we do. I feellike I have a lot of ability to
do that now, confidence to dolove. Joy is not a word I'd
use to describe Bill Belichick, butI do understand that he is maybe the
greatest NFL coach of all time.What did you learn from him? An
incredible competitive stamina that every day youneed to be able to bring it at
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the highest level. That there isno you know, no days off,
there is no kind of being offyour game. That there's a standard there
that you're expected that. Now,the whole Patriot Way, Belichick Way,
however you want to look at it, I always believed the way was the
standard. That the expectation of greatnessthe day you the second you walk in
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that door until you leave is thatyou have to be on top of your
game and every single thing you do. And we try to emphasize that at
our place. Uh now, we'lltry to emphasize that here that everybody that
walks in this door, coaches,players, support staff, et cetera.
They need to be at their Aplus game and if they are, it
keeps us our best chance. Mediainclude media. Yeah, without a doubt,
got you. Well, look,as long as you keep having spreads
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like this, you're going to makeit very very happy when it's all said
and up food guy, Big Food. Hey, I'm right there with you,
man, But Jetfish is with ushere Softie and Dick on on Mott
Lake and what what Dick said aboutthe way you handle that, And I
want to echo his thoughts because Iappreciate you understanding that. Hey, there's
questions that people have that there's somescars that we've been through in the last
week or so, and the andthe idea that you almost said, Hey,
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bring it on. I'm not goingto shy away from anything. I
really appreciate the fact but you didthat. But there's a term that people
have thrown around in the last fewdays about this job, and it's a
stepping stone. When you hear peoplesay things like that and wonder about Jetfish
and the word stepping stone, howdo you respond to that to where I
mean, where are you stepping too? You know, I don't think historically
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that I know of that many peoplestep from here to somewhere else. I
know that I can't think of manythat would say that they left here to
go take a different job that theythought was better. I know we're all
pointing to this one example, right, but there are no others. I
don't think that I can think ofthe job. The guys that have been
here in the past they didn't dothat. So I think it's a one
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time exception that they made it.That Coach de Board made a decision that
he felt that's what he wanted todo. But I don't know who else
has done it. And I thinkthat usually you got to look at more
of a sample set than just thelast one. How do you build a
culture in this day and age youspoke to culture building up there. This
game now is so transient and transactionaland money based, And how do you
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build a culture for as long asyou're here, whether it's two years or
twenty years. How do you builda culture when it is so transient and
transactional right now? I think you'vegot to just invest every second of your
day when you have them, andyou have to just be able to show
them that we're going to live thisday to the fullest, then this week
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to the fullest, then this monthto the fullest, and then the year,
and you can't get wrapped up in. Hey, we're going to build
a culture that in about two anda half years will be ready to go.
Right. You know, you justcan't do it. You've just got
to invest blood, sweat and tearsinto this year's culture. Well, it's
amazing how much things have changed rightin this game, and it's changed very,
very fast. I was talking toDick that two years ago, we're
sitting here at Coach to Borts pressconference and we're asking about Jake Hayne or
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transferring from Fresno State. Now there'squestions about McMillan and Fafita and Coleman,
guys like that. Can you giveus any kind of an update on where
we are with players coming from Tucsonto Seattle. Yeah, I don't know
if if anybody is in the portal, So I don't think I'm able to
talk about anybody. I think thatthe set of circumstances that are out there
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right now enables players to go inthe portal when there's a coaching change.
That's what we saw here. Ibelieve seventeen players went in the portal in
a matter of a twenty four hourspan. So I don't know, I
don't know what that's going to looklike I really believe that. I really
don't want to talk about that partof it because it there's a lot there.
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There's a lot to that, Andwhat's most important is whomever is here
when we started up will be theteam that we are committed to. We
had Rick new Eisl on the Morningshow and he called you, in a
very positive way, unrelenting in yourrecruiting. He mentioned you snuck into the
OJ trail when you're in college.He can't telling that story. Everybody's heard
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this. You gotta make a movieabout that. That story. Everybody's heard
that story twice. You want totell it now? And know and and
and you know. Troy called youmaniacal right in your recruiting. Give us
an example of Jedfish maniacal recruiting.You met my wife, I have not
yet. That's the example too.That's the example that I wound up.
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Uh. It was a pursuit,to say the least. She was living
in Dallas, and I got hiredin Houston, Texans and we met at
a convention like the year before,and I called her up and I said,
hey, uh, I just gothired here in uh, Texas,
and I don't know anyone who livesin Texas but you And she's like,
okay, She's like, I go, would you mind like getting together?
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Maybe grab a jerrys I'm sure itwas four hours away. Wow. So
that's a hell of a line.But I tell she thought I was in
Dallas. There you go, therewe go. So I had so I
said, well, one's a goodtime, and we picked a date and
uh, I just left it too. I didn't tell her yeah yeah,
and un if I get in thereat six. But uh we we went
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at a little ups and downs fora about a year or so to get
her to take the cheese and becomea Houston Texan. Wow, and we're
able to take her, get herto Houston, and then have taken her
on this crazy journey for twenty years. I love that. Well, that's
a hell of a story and thatyou're right, that is a great example
of a maniacal pursuit and you landedit. But jetfishes with us and Coach
I'm curious because kind of a weirddynamic going on. Now. I look
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over here, I see William Inge, our old co DC, and then
I see two old friends of ours, Coach Pow Powell and coach Doherty who
we know from their days past.Is there a chance that we could see
a little bit of a mix.I know you said you want to bring
your entire Arizona staff over here.Is there a chance that we could see
a coach or two from the previousstaff retained? Oh? Yeah, I
think there's always a chance for allof that. Really don't know exactly what
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it's going to look like, howit's going to go right, But I
think what's important is just to uhget the staff in place soon. Get
the staff in place quickly, andsee what we can do to really get
this thing going so we can haveas many coaches for recruiting and on the
road ready to go. You're gonnahave the visor. Is that an homage
to Steve Spurrier? It is?And are you a I mean, did
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you get your offensive philosophy from him? A product of him? Is that
what we're gonna kind of see thefun and gun? Yeah? I would
say one thousand percent. I'm aproduct of him. The visors completely for
him. Pay homage to him.Yep. Now there is a rule about
the visor when he was coaching,if it was raining, you were allowed
to wear a hat oh yeah,all right, So I don't want to
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hear it from you guys. Ifwe have enough rain and you're like,
you're not wearing Advisor, it's becauseit's raining. Okay. So that's a
big one. Rule number one.Rule number two is that every down is
third down. Right, there yougo. I like that. There's a
problem with your rain philosophy though you'rein Seattle. Now, you got to
define rain, man, What doesrain mean? Is rain? A thunderstorm?
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Is rain? A monster dune?We'll go out and play golf and
the rain. Don't tell a sprinklesa rain? Right? What is rain?
All right? Because we're gonna begetting on yet, it better be
a freaking thunderstore, my friend,I think my cup from the desert,
I think the rain expectation might bedifferent. There you go. I love
it, well a coach before yougo. It's funny because you get to
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know a lot of people in thisbusiness, and relationships come and go.
You have to restart a lot ofstuff, like we're going through right now
with a new ad and a newhead coach. But you talk to head
coaches, you say, what doyou do when your downtime? They always
look at me and say what downtime? I have no downtime. I have
no idea. What's on Apple Plusor Amazon or whatever. Is there anything
outside of football that we could lookdon't play a lot, but like it.
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And there's the home of pick aball? You know, I know,
Oh yeah, I know. I'vebeen told that a few times.
And just being together because right nowit's been so hard to spend a lot
of time together. So we justtry to find ways to enjoy each other
and see where it goes. Areyou a better pick a ball player or
a football coach? The football?There you go. Good answer. Hey,
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nice to meet, Thank you,Welcome to Seattle. Appreciate all right,
We're all big dog fans around here. Whatever you need from us,
say the we're looking forward again toknow your palf Thank you. Thank you.
Bet Jetfish with us on the radioshow here on Motlake. A chance
to meet with the new head coachof the Dogs and obviously has the personality,
no question about it. Maw.You talk about a guy that football
coaches when they become head coaches,they stop doing one thing, and that's
coaching football. Right, So we'llsee this guy's gonna work directly with the
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quarterbacks. We know that for sure. We know he's got a history obviously
lesson under his belt. He's talkingto Daman Hewart and Dana Hall and Spencer
Hawes right now. But he's gotto just get this thing settled down,
and I think it will. Ithink they'll do it very fast, Dave.
I just think back to the sameinterview we did two years ago with
kaylenor over there. This couldn't havebeen more different, right, Yeah,
this could not have been more dinner. I'll tell you why. Kaylen de
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bor sat. He stared straight aheadwith you on one side and me on
one side, and there was very, very little eye contact. Right now,
we got eye contact eventually from Kaylen. Where is it ben quote unquot
a friend but jet Fish. Imean, he was so comfortable talking to
us, where two years ago,I don't believe Kaylen de Moore was comfortable
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talking to us at all in thatfirst press. I'm not sure how comfortable
he is now, to be totallyhonest with you, I mean, there
are a lot of things about thetransition that I know he would love to
go back and do over again.Number One, we haven't even seen a
statement from the guy at all.I mean, he made Coach Fish put
a statement out I think yesterday,Yeah, thanking the Arizona people and moving
on all that stuff. The onlything we've seen from Kaylin de Bore is
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a quote that Ralph Russo from theAP got from him and regurgitated on social
media. So I just don't thinkhe's comfortable like that. This guy's comfortable
like that. This guy's going tobe an ex comfortable anywhere. Well.
He's going to be a hit withthe donors, He's going to be a
hit with the alums, he's goingto be a hit with the ex players,
with guys like Dana Hall walking aroundhere, Will Disley over there.
He's going to be a hit withall those guys. And he's going to
inspire people to step up and bea part of this entire thing. And
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that really, in a lot ofways, is what this is all about.
I told you guys yesterday or youknow, a couple days ago on
the show that the number one thingthat he needs is an NIL war chest,
and he needs it right now,by the way. So you get
a guy like Faffieda or McMillan,Teed McMillan, Noah Fefida to come over
from Arizona. Look, I don'tknow those guys at all. I've never
met him, but I'm assuming untilI don't assume that that the nil piece
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is going to be a gigantic partof this for everybody, including them I'm
starting today. I would think so. And I would think that there's never
been more NIL dollars in the Huskiescoffer than seven days after they played for
a national championship, Right you wouldthink you would think, Yeah, you
would think. I mean, Iknow that the last couple of weeks brought
in a lot of money to MontlakeFutures. I don't know how it compares
to other programs across the country,Dick, I really honestly have no idea,
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but I think they're at a prettyhealthy good spot right now. And
I think, look, in alot of ways, it stinks. And
I've said that before, I'll sayit again that we're asking fans. You're
you're paying a coach seven and ahalf million dollars, you're paying an eighty
one million bucks, you're playing abasketball coach couple million dollars. Yeah,
you're still asking fans to do moreand contribute more and I get how that's
a bad look for college, verybad. But I get that. I
thought it's reality. It's reality rightnow. So what do you want to
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do if you want to whine aboutit or you want to do something about
it and be a part of it. That's exactly right. It is reality.
But you know what, like likeNeweisel said today with The Morning Guys,
it's unsustainable and it's not going tobe the model twenty years from what
part of it is unsustainable? Youthink the fans financially to be a part
of this way and continuing to askfans to be a part of this.
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When money goes to a particular athlete, they play for one year and then
they lead to another school and prettysoon and this is I totally agree with
Rick when he said this, prettysoon, it's just gonna wear donors out.
They're like, no, I'm done. And I think eventually we're gonna
get revenue sharing where the athletes arebeing paid more in their scholarships, and
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then we don't have to worry aboutit. We don't have to worry about
as much of just donors buying players. Yeah, I'm just kind of curious
what the prevailing emotion is for thefans right now that are listening out there
grab some texts at four nine fourfive one as well, But it is
the like, like, what's theconversation, Dick. Is the conversation right
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now about Jed Fish and what kindof coach he is and what he can
do in recruiting and who he's bringingwith him from Arizona? Or is the
conversation more still about scars from thelast week and what college football looks like
and what Washington's future looks like.I mean, you know, coach Fish
was talking about, you know,the stepping stone thing, and he mentioned
to Boor going to Alabama. Well, the other one is start going to
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USC, which I get. He'sfrom California, he had roots with Pete
carrolln USC. I understood it,and I gotta be honest with you,
man, I understood it when Rickwas looking at the Niners, you know,
twenty two years ago or whatever itwas. I totally get that going
from here to the NFL, goingfrom here to USC, if you're starting
going from here to Alabama, ifyou're kickling to Boor, I get all
that stuff. I guess what you'rekind of naively, maybe hoping for is
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that Washington can find a guy thatcan be here for ten years and says
I don't need to leave because everythingI need is right here. And those
guys become legends. Those guys arespecial. And right now we haven't had
one an obviously since Jim Lambrighton DonJames. No, that's exact. I
think the scars are still there.I think that's predominantly emotion. I think
we'll see that on the text line. That's certainly my predominant emotion. I
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think the emotions will change once wesee what the twenty twenty four roster is
going to look like. Right becauseright now, my god, if we
played a football game tomorrow, wewouldn't have a quarterback. We'd have a
running back coming off of a seasonlong injury that we'd throw in there.
We got basically no receivers. Imean, it's just it's a mess right
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now. Hey, let's face it. The opportunity for little victories for him
right now is there? Every singleday? Oh? Absolutely. For example,
Let's say they announced tomorrow that no, if a feat is transferring to
UP, what's the reaction gonna befrom Husky Dation. They're gonna be fired
up. That's right. McMillan comes. They're gonna be fired up. The
Jonah Coleman thing becomes official. They'regonna be fired. Jeremy Bernard decides to
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stay. Parker Brailsford decides to stay. Powell decides to stay. How you're
talking all of a sudden, you'regetting credit for something that you already had,
right, Like, we're gonna say, wait a minute, this guy
was already here. Yeah, butthe fact that we got him back is
a win for hid. It meanssomething, though, Tell those guys coming
back tells me something about Jetfish?Yes, right, and so if those
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names that you just mentioned are agood chunk of those names just mentioned are
here two weeks from now, Yeah, that tells me something about this guy.
I just wonder though, and Iagree with that, I'll give you
that. I wonder though, howmuch of that is no longer about Jetfish
and his charisma and his salesmanship versusthe bottom damn line, which is how
much money am I getting to comeback to school? Right? Because in
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the old days, recruiting was aboutrelationships, right, Recruiting was about,
Hey, let's get to know thiskid when he's in eighth grade or little
Bobby came to my camp when hewas seven and he fell in love with
Husky football. I got to knowhis parents, and I've been going to
all his football games, and Icall him on his birthday and I send
him a card that stuff used tomatter. I'm not saying it doesn't matter
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at all right now, Dick,And then it doesn't matter, right,
It doesn't matter as much as heused to. So I think this has
got to be a collective effort,guys, by everybody that calls themselves a
Husky football fan. Jed Fish hasto go out and do his job as
a salesman. He's got to dohis job as a recruiter and as a
leader and a football coach, andwe as fans have to do our job
of making sure he has the biggestwar chest possible to compete with other schools
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that are trying to poach players offthe rocks. You know, it's a
little heriot. It's a little hypocriticalthough, because we've always shied away at
the pro level of saying, hey, in order to be a fan,
you got to go buy tickets,right and that's you know, and hey,
look you shout away from that,and now we're saying, in order
to be a fan, you gotto pay money to Montley Future. Well,
you know what, And I gethow you would say that. I'm
not saying that though. That's notwhat I'm saying, because I know some
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people can't afford to do it,right Heariot They can't, And I get
that. I mean there's a guyout there who coaches a particular team on
the East Coast, who you knowvery well, who basically said exactly what
you're saying. If you don't donatemoney to our NIL collective, then shut
the hell up. You cannot havean opinion about our football team, which
I think is nonsense, absolute nonsense. There are people that have been diehard
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Dog fans for fifty sixty seventy fiveyears, and just because they can't afford
to give money to an n ALcollective does not make their opinion any less
or more valid. And you weremine. But I do think that the
people that can do it, there'san opportunity for you to make an impact
like never before. That's fair.Now you can make an impact. Now
you can directly impact what kind offootball player your team. Yes, that's
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right, that's and that's different thanbying tickets to the Seahawks, right right,
buying tickets to the marriage just becauseyou know they're gonna spend The Seahawks
are gonna spend just as much moneyif they have sixty eight thousand people of
the game, then if they havesixty two thousand, let's do this.
We're gonna break. I think we'regonna talk to Ian Furness Fertile Cross Talk
coming up next, Softian Dick infor Jim and Jason right here on ninety
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three three KJRFM. You dub,I'm staring at the Husky Stadium, John
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Boutron there, welcome Jetfish. He'sgot the visor on obviously, uh,
a staple of his. I thought, good question by you, Dick.
That's an ode to Steve Spurrier,no question about it. Learned a lot
from coach Spurrier when he was astudent at Florida. But says he can
take the visor off if there's rain. We're still waiting to see what he
thinks rain is because rain to youand I might be different than rain to
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Jetfish. But there's only one Huskygame a year. About that you would
have rain that he couldn't take thevisor, maybe the apple cup whatever,
something like that. But ian foran ass back in the studio. I
don't know about you, man,I get used to this ten to one
thing about this is pretty cool golftime. I'll be on a team about
a half an hour. Guys goingon. You guys make it you guys,
make it sound like you are thewinners today. The winners were named
Jim Moore and Jason Puckett. Theywon the lottery today and their producers here
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working. Right, howcome your guyJackson didn't come in and produce your show?
How come kid is the only memberof that ten to one group that
had to work today. I'll tellyou why, because you now know about
Jackson what Dick and I know he'sa huge slackers that would sum it up
then right then and there, guygan it slacker. I see Jackson in
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there. Nope, I see thehard working see kid two o six let's
go. Yeah. We would havebeen here no matter what for this obviously,
so you may as well go onthe air and uh and need to
talk to people about it. Butyou know we were here two years ago
for Kaitlyn to boor in this exactspot. Before that, it was Chris
Peterson handing off to Jimmy Lake andthe Don James Center. Before that,
it was Steve Sarkisian handing off toChris Peterson right here, and before that
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it was Tyrone handing off the Starkand the Don jameson too many of them.
We're kind of bouncing back and forthbetween these two spots, and I'm
with Dicky, and I'm getting alittle tired of this. I think it'd
be nice to kind of have thisguy settle down here for a little bit
and be the Husky coach for awhile. Welcome to college football, man,
right, you know, I don'tknow why you think it's going to
change. I mean, that's justthe world we live in. And you
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know the fact that you know,guys like Saban were at his well,
even Pete Carroll in the NFL.Was it displaced for fourteen years? Sneyder
talked about that today. It justdoesn't happen anymore in college coaches. It's
even worse where you know, whetheryou want to call it a stepping stone
or not, Dick, I heardyour comments earlier, right, I mean,
there's probably only like you know,four or five schools in the country
that aren't quote stepping stones. ButI don't know if I like that term.
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I think it's just you know,you it doesn't matter what position you're
in or what job you're in.You know, Listen, sometimes you look
for the bigger, better thing downthe road, maybe more money or what
have you. Maybe you just havethe ability or you want to have the
ability to be the very best thetop of your profession, and maybe that's
not your current spot, you know. I mean, hell, look at
us, We're dinosaurs guys, honestlyin our business, Like our business is
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the most transient business in the world. Like what we do here is amazing.
Like the fact that you know,isn't Chuck the shortest tenured guy.
He's been here for what eight ornine years? That just doesn't happen,
you know, Yeah, no,it's true. And you know, I
think Jetfish, I'm not going tolet myself when Jetfish leaves here, and
let's hope he leaves here with asimilar type of you know, similar type
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to Kaylen de Bor's success. I'mnot going to let myself be emotionally bothered
by like that like I have beenthe last week with Kaylen because I really
thought that's easier said than done.That's easier. Come on, if this
guy wins and then takes off,I mean, there's gonna be a but.
But I do think what you said, you though, is right on
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that this is what college football nowhas become. And maybe I naively was
late to the party to accept thata little bit. Well, it's also
changed a little bit in the recentyears because you know, I heard your
segment a little bit of your segmentin the last a few minutes ago,
Dave, when you're talking about,you know, the nil world, and
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you know, because of that,it's changed from that standpoint because now guys,
there's coaches that are kind of oldschool or just you know, are
kind of past that they don't wantto deal with that stuff. It's it's
bad enough when you have to goto whatever Tayee Club at Washington or Kugar
Athletic Fun at Wazoo and say,okay, I need money and we need
money for scholarships and scholarship athletes oror facilities, right, but now you've
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got to also go to the otherpart of the fundraising equation and say,
hey, now I not only needmoney for a facility, or this.
I also now need money to payyou know, my wide receiver or my
quarterback to stay. And I thinkthat's exhausting for a lot of guys in
that particular business. And it's Imean, recruiting is exhausting. Now you've
added a whole new element to it, and it's just a different world that
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we're living in right now. Fain. I hope you're right, man.
I hope at some point that youknow, whatever that gap they call it,
the cost to attend and so forth, I hope that grows to the
point where we're not looking at,you know, nil for backup offensive linemen
and long snappers. I mean,it's one thing if you pay a Heisman
Trophy caliber quarterback or a top flightrunning back or a shutdown corner an edgeresher,
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but work with the original purpose.So I think Rick new Eizel's right
when he says this is completely unsustainable. You're not going to keep being able
to come to these donors a yearafter year after year when these guys just
end up leaving after a year ortwo anyway, and that we're going to
get revenue sharing at a certain stent, at a certain time where everybody's going
to get paid more, and thenyou can really get the nil dollars to
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the people that need the end thatdeserve the nil dollars because they're actually people
that the fans want to come outand get autograd. I just think,
I just think the purpose of itwas to let these kids capitalize and get
market rate for their name, whateverthat is. I mean, it's as
crazy as it sounds to give moneyto a guy who is a backup and
isn't going to play. If that'swhat the market supplies, then that's what
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the market supplies. Yeah, themarket supply. Yeah, the market supplies
it because if someone else is willingto pay him, Yeah, it's it's
because I'm with you, like,you know, name, image and likeness,
Like how many college I just chuck, Like the whole lawsuit going on
right now is a swimmer from ArizonaState? Is you know the guy that's
name is on that Dude, youdidn't generate one dollar. You cost your
universe see over one hundred and fiftythousand dollars a year period. You know.
But that's that's the world. Listen, that's the world we live in.
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And if you guys have another oneof these news conferences in you know,
one, two, three, four, ten years. Whenever, it
is one of two things. Eitherhe's had success and he's moving to the
he's gonna jump to the National FootballLeague. I heard him sail was stepping.
So buddy, come on, ifthe NFL comes calling your name because
you've had success year and you're gonnamake you know, twelve fifteen million dollars
a year, you're out. That'swhat you're gonna do. Or the other
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side, obviously, is the JimmyLake type of press conference, and nobody
wants to have that. Yeah.Well, I mean I thought he was
pretty honest about everything. I too, I agree with what Dick said.
I mean, you know, there'sthere's a kind of no BS thing with
him going on a little bit.Maybe it's because he's from New Jersey.
I have no idea. Maybe it'sbecause the East Coast guy whatever, but
there is a no BS thing,And if I'm him, I'm like,
hey, my my resume speaks foritself. I've been at ten spots in
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fourteen years or whatever it is,right, I mean, that's right there,
Like anybody can look that up andsee what my track record looks like.
So I'm what I'm hopeful for guysin Ian is that this is only
his second full time head coaching job. Okay, he was an interim coach
for two games after Jim Moore gotwhacked at UCLA. He took over and
he went one and one. Thenhe got the Arizona job. A few
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years later. He went seventeen andtwenty two, but he won seven straight.
Went from one to eleven to tenand three, Like that's real,
that actually happens. So I'm hopingthat now that he's in the head coaching
circle and not the analyst or theoffensive coordinator or quarterback coach circle, that
maybe things for him will settle downa little bit. Have you seen Jane
Dolaura on campus? Hit? Ishe there with him? Or no?
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He's at Texas State? Is thatwhere he went? He didn't hear that
in Texas State? He transferred toTexas State? Yes, you think I
can keep up with this stuff?You kidding? You have me? But
well, we're waiting on Fafida andMcMillan, And I know Dennis Dodd said
that those guys may stay down therein Tucson. But then Felben reported that
Kevin Cummings, who was the widereceiver coach down there, who those guys
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apparently are in love with, andhe's in Seattle. He may be coming
with Jed Finisher. Was some wordthat maybe if Johnny Nansen got the job,
those guys would stay, But JhnniNansen right now is set to go
work with Sark and Kwakowski and bethe co defensive coordinator at Texas. So
if he would have gotten the edgejob at Arizona, he would have stayed
there. But that's the thing thatkind of sucks about this is that we're
all sitting here just kind of aNott's about what happened to Washington's program and
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the Raider. Yeah, and herewe are rooting for the exact same thing
to happen in tu Soon. Well, i'd say, I'd say it's hypocritical,
but it's just college football. It'slike I loved I'd love to throw
a stone at you guys and say, you know you're you're being jackasses and
you're you know you're you're as badas anybody else. But the problem is
is that's the that's the vicious circle. There's there might be ten or fifteen
fans at San Jose State that aremad right now because what's going on there
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with Arizona. If we if wesit here and say, you know what,
we're gonna take the high road.Guess what, you don't have a
team. Yeah, we're gonna bethree and nine. Okay, great,
Like we got the moral ground.We could go back and say that we
didn't do it. But then we'resitting there, we have no players.
I mean, it's like, youknow, Jim Mora, I know,
regrets not taking the Husky job allthose years, and he can say though
that I never left my players,I never turned their back or my back
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on them. But at the sametime he also lost tremendous opportunities for himself.
So I don't know how you dothis Ian if you're a head coach
without ruining relationships and hurting people's feelingsin response, you don't. I mean,
you just it's it's very simple.You don't. It's it's it's a
cutthroat business. It's also the youknow, listen, the job of coaching
in football at the highest level,whether it be Division one in college or
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or the NFL. And and hell, even if you're John Schneider and you're
a GM in the NFL. It'sthe most cutthroat thing in the world because
it's if you don't take care ofnumber one, someone else is gonna terf
you. It's as simple as that. And so you've got to take care
and that means raiding other schools,that means going after guys. I still,
as a parent, can't get past. I can't get past the fact
that guys bounce so fast and soquick. And I always think to myself,
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have you not made any type ofscrew the coaching staff, like a
coaching staff aside? You don't spendyour whole world with a coaching staff.
And I'm just I'm talking in general. Trumps'm not saying Washington, Arizona,
Alabama, anybody else. I'm justsaying, how do these kids? How
these young people that just bounce quicklylike they do? And three guys?
You know, there's guys doing itthree years in three schools? Do not
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develop relationships with your teammates? DoYou don't have roommates that you want to
hang out with and enjoy college with? Like? Where has that gone?
And I guess that's the data methat kind of thinks about that all the
time, that part I'll never understand. Maybe it's chasing the almighty buck,
but hell, a lot of thosekids are making money where they're at anyway,
so it doesn't make sense. Yeah, well I got news for your
pal as you you said it perfectlyto start the segment and our clothes with
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exactly what you said. We aredinosaurs, pal A dinosaurs, and people
just don't think like us anymore.It's right, good time, Right,
what's what's coming up on your onyour show? Well, well, you
guys were you know, spreading yourpurple and joy love over their purple and
gold joy fest over there, andlike I was hanging out with John Schneider
today and you know, we believethat was his first ever solo news conference
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in Seattle. Really it's right becausePete's always with him, He's always been
at his side, and so Iwas over there. I got a few
quick quessians in we'll we'll kind ofI'm gonna ask the listeners to try to
you know, how we used totry to translate Pete. I'm gonna see
if we can. I'm gonna seewe can translate Schneider today and what he's
looking for a coach and what wentdown with Pete Carroll, so we'll have
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some fun with that as the daygoes on. But there's a lot of
a lot of stuff in that worldtoo, because I mean, we we
just I don't think, guys,we've ever had, you know, an
eight or nine day stretch since I'vebeen here and I got back here in
six I don't think we've had astretch like we have had over the last
eight days. And next k irffcea
Now back to Sofie and Dick onSports Radio ninety three point three KJRF O
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ninety three three kjr FN. Well, the voice of the Huskies was just
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sitting with us listening to this pressconference for the past hour or so.
Tony castro Cone back with us onthe air, So would you make it?
What you heard from Troy and fromJetfish and even some thoughts from Jeff
Beck told as well the sid well, I think that no one held back
with the questions, right, Imean, he had to answer the tough
questions, and I thought he dida really good job. I mean,
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he was transparent. It's tough whenit's tough when people, you know,
aspire to get to a place likethis and then the local folks say like,
hey, was Washington your dream job? Well, you know, I
mean, look, he wants togo win national championships as a head coach,
and he has climbed and grinded throughouthis entire career to put himself in
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position to do that. Now he'sat a place that's got two of them
and was a few plays away fromgetting number three just a few days ago.
Right, So I think that youknow, what I really liked hearing,
probably more than anything else, wasfrom ad Troy Dannen and just that
word aspirational. What does the Universityof Washington aspire to be? You know,
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quite frankly, softy, you andI've had these conversations over the years.
You look around the PAC twelve andsome of the programs there, and
you wondered what some of those programsaspired to be. You want to be
aligned with folks that aspire to winnational championship. Jedfish does, many of
the programs in the Big Ten do, and I think Annamari Cawsey, president
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of U dub and AD Troy Danenare doing everything they can to make this
a place that continues to aspire tobe great and attract the people that want
to come here to be great.You can't chain people down forever, as
much as sometimes we'd like to,but I think you can make this as
attractive of a destination as possible.I think that's the hard work that's been
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done. And I think Jedfish seesall that. I mean, that's what
I heard. He sees the potentialin this place, and that's all you
can really ask. I feel betterthan I did before the press conbrace Tony
because I don't feel like I wassold a bill of goods. Yeah,
I mean, I felt like itwas authentic, it was honest, and
he didn't say he was going tostay here forever. No, but Troy
dan And use the word maniacal todescribe as recruiting yep. Rick Neuheisel when
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he was on the Morning Show todayused the word unrelenting, and I guess
New Age college football you gotta lookshort term and maniacal and unrelenting in getting
talent. In is a pretty goodplace to start looking if you're looking short
term. Well, okay, let'sthink about this, and you know,
I don't even want to hint ofanything otherwise, but you you're you brought
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it up. Let's say that anNFL job opens that is interesting to Jetfish
in three years. Right, ifhe has stalked this cupboard with that maniacal
recruiting and the type of players thatwe know the University of Washington can and
has attracted over the years, thenyou don't feel so bad when the next
person comes in and is able tomaintain all those four star guys and you
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feel like the cupboard is stalked andyou're ready to go out there and continue
to compete for Big ten championships innational championships. And so, you know,
I thought Troy kind of said itfrom the very top today's day and
age, you gotta get someone thatis going to go recruit, recruit,
recruit. Jetfish has shown that he'sdone that over the course of three years.
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And he also kind of relate tohis NFL experience about the way that
NFL teams if they're really going tobe successful, got to build through the
draft, right and and not justnot just picking out a free agency all
the time. And so you know, we are learning about his philosophy based
on those things that he said andgot to say excited, excited to see
you know, guys, I'm justputting we're all just reacting to this right
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now and just trying to put piecestogether. I'm curious, based on this
unique situation. The Dogs are insixty three scholarship players right now, if
they're not going to push spring ballall the way back until you know,
a spring game might be in midMay, they get players here so they
can get some folks in in thespring quarter. Yeah, and you know,
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maybe use the portal to build thatout. I think that'd be a
great question for Jed when he's on. But I mean springball, I'm real
curious how that's gonna work. No, for sure. And look, I
mean I thought he had a homerun at the press conference. I told
Dick dot on the air. Itweeted that I thought he said all the
right things. And you know,I mean there's a there's some sco that
Husky fans are dealing with right now, and I'm glad that he addressed those
scars. I thought that was great. He said, look, this stuff
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happened, the team was great,and then the roster got blown up,
and him admitting it's going to looktotally different than what it looked like a
year ago. I just appreciated thehonesty out of him, for sure.
I'm curious to know because like PeteCarroll Dick. He mentioned Pete a couple
times today, right, and thefact that there's a relationship there with him
is awesome. Pete Carroll clearly hada difference in philosophy from his Jet Patriot
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days to his USC and Seahawk days. What's different about this guy? Right,
He's been at this for a longtime. He's been at what eight
or nine different stops since two thousandand eight. How was he a different
coach today than he was when hewas, you know, thirty years old.
He never played high school or collegefootball, which is crazy. This
is the first time ever I everhad a Hosky coach play that never played
the game. So it's almost thenew wave, right, the analytics wave
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in some ways, the marketing wave. But I want to know what is
he doing differently. Now, whathas he discovered about himself that he did
not know fifteen years ago? Yeah, can't wait to hear. Good question.
A tough one for me to kindof to freelance off. But I'll
just build on what your you canhandle it well. To build on what
you're saying, I think that whole, that whole, I don't know,
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prototype of the head coach that you'relooking for a place like this twenty years
ago has has changed pretty drastically.Like you got a guy in Kaitlyn de
Bore that came in here that hadreally never coached at a high level,
and not just that, the wholestaff that he put around him, vast
majority of that staff and never coachedbeyond like fcs. You know, I'm
thinking about edge coach Eric Schmidt,who like was it North Dakota, right,
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I mean, and those guys camein here and went twenty five and
two to get to the National ChampionshipGame, And so, you know,
I think people are opening their mindsa bit. You don't necessarily have to
look. I agree this role ismuch more of a corporate CEO role than
it is just you know, highschool football coach whistle around the next screaming
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at people tell them to take theirsalt tablets after practice, Like this is
a different role. Now. Youneed to build a staff of seventy people
around you, and you have tobe able to lead in a certain direction.
You have to have a vision,you have to sell it. And
so you know, I think Jetfishhas done that really successfully in as short
time as a head coach. Well, he raised a good point. He
said, there's twelve to fourteen teamsthat can win a national championship each year,
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and we're one of them. Andhe couldn't have said that at Arizona,
And you've got twelve spots in theplayoff each and every year. So
I'm thinking that you know, thismight be the new wave and that these
schools and we're one of them.As long as you don't have a problem
at head coach, as long asyou have a head coach that at least
taken you in the right direction,that Washington football almost recruits itself. Not
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to say that Jetfish doesn't have abig job on his hands, particularly right
now with sixty five scholars and athletes, But once he gets back on track,
Washington football plays at a certain levelthat most teams don't play it.
And you know, I'm not tryingto be naive about this or anything.
I know that the relationship a recruitbuilds with the head coaches of utmost importance.
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I get all that. But alsoyou know, and you just hope
kids are getting the best advice possible. They got to know that coaches do
move around a lot. But whenyou go and look at a place you
want to be, that you wantto consider as an opportunity. You got
the greatest setting in college football.You've got the number two public university in
all of America. You've got thecity of Seattle. You've got the alumni
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base and all the corporations that youcan build connections with. You've got Montlake
futures, You've got Montlake players,You've got all this stuff here. You
got a national championship runner up currently, and all of that stuff stays here
regardless of who's running the program.So that's the way it's got to be.
Not for sure, I mean,look, this is obviously just it's
just a weird time. It's aweird time, and everything will settled down
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and everything will be just fine,because Washington football is always fine. Look,
man, We've been through it all, right. We were there for
every stinking game in two thousand andeight, when this football team did not
win a game, going on theair for postgame shows, we could not
get a call on the air becausenobody gave a damn. And here we
are now sixteen years and you've madetwo final fours since then, You've won
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the Sugar Bowl, you got asecond place finisher for the Heisman Trophy,
and it finished number two in thecountry. Washington football is always gonna be
fine. The only question is whenand how long? And I get impatient,
right, you guys know me,right, I want everything right now.
And the bummer about to bord thatyou thought you were building something with
this guy that could be sustainable fora long long time. Maybe things will
be better. Maybe this guy comesin and does everything we thought Kaylor would
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do in more. Who knows.Yeah, well, look, Washington has
won for over one hundred years.Yeah, you know, I talked about
it before. I'll talk about itagain. The cemetery between the nineteen twenty
three team and the twenty twenty threeteam, one hundred years apart, the
first ever trip to the Rose Bull, the first conference championship the first yeah,
you know, I mean one hundredyears later to beat Oregon to go
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to the Sugar Bowl, to getto the national championship. Washington has been
a place that's been winning at footballfor over one hundred years. It'll continue
to win at football. I worryabout the health of the sport because there's
some things going on that just seemson sustainable. Sure, but you know,
the investment is there, and Ijust think that that looking around the
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sun's out in January. I mean, it's incredible, and I think Jed
Fish sees this, he sees theopportunity, and he's all in, Yeah,
all right, man, go gethim. We'll talk soon, Buddy,
appreciate good dogs. Go dogs.Tony Casher, come with us on
the radio show. We have alot to get to obviously from here on
campus. Coach Fish is meeting withthe media behind us right now doing all
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his TV stuff. So we're goingto break in just a couple of minutes
here and get him back on theshow and ask him the questions that we
want to ask him. You know, I want to talk about kind of
how has he changed, how ishe a different man now, a different
coach? Now than he was twentyyears ago. You know, what are
his recruiting philosophies, You know whatis his defensive staff going to? Look
like I saw where Bruce Feldman's tweetingthe Kevin Cummings, who was his wide
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receivers coach at Arizona, who alot of people think is crucial to keeping
Fafita and McMillan and those guys onthe roster in Tucson. Feldman saying he's
in Seattle right now. That doesn'tmean he's going to be higher, but
he's in Seattle right now. Solook, I mean, I think it's
stinks, Dick, that you're almostkind of rooting for what happened to Washington
to happen to Arizona. But it'seither kill or be killed. And Tony's
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exactly right. There's a lot ofthings about this game that are not sustainable.
But until then, what are yousupposed to know? Those assistants should
come with them, just like Kaylen'sassistants should go with Kaylan, right,
I mean, that's they're a family, they're a group. I mean,
you just move Washington staff to Alabama, move a few of those players to
Alabama. That's just that's the wayit happens. And in the same should
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they I mean, same should happenwith here. I mean I would love
the skill position players of Arizona tocome here next. Sure. Sure,
And look, let's be honest withyou. I can admit to you,
and I did this the other nighton social media, Dick, I can
admit that there's a lot of thingsabout college football that are absolutely messed up.
Perhaps a lot of things about collegefootball that are messed up. But
you know what, in the end, it's all about me, it really
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is. It's all about my program. Everybody is in it for themselves.
Cougar fans should be in it forBobs. Ducks should be in it for
Ducks. Beeves should be in itfor Beaves, and Husky fans should think
totally one track minded about themselves,which is why they went to the Big
Ten one hundred percent. We talkedabout this the day that USC and UCLA
left that from that point on,Jen Cohen Ana Markow say everything they did
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needed to be totally completely selfish,and they did that. We're gonna break.
We got a lot more to getto, including a conversation with the
new head coach of your Husky footballteam. Jetfish canna join us in a
matter of minutes right here on ninetythree three KJRFM. Now back to Sofie
and Dick on Sports Radio ninety threepoint three KJRF, Washington Huskies. See
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you were home for the Huskies,and all right, boys and girls back
here on Mot Lake. What aday, what a week, What a
crazy, crazy week for Husky footballfans. And finally we can kind of
settle down a little bit and kindof move this thing forward. I gotta
tell you, Dick, my momis very thrilled with this next tire because
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she said we got a Jewish kidfrom Jersey. She's fired up for that.
So I want you to know,coach, you made my mom very
very happy, exciting. That's great, big time. Well, it's good
to see. Welcome to Seattle,first of all. And then second of
all, man, just tell meabout what today has been like for you,
the last couple of days, goingback to the phone call from you,
dub on Saturday, the last seventytwo hours or so, for you
and your family, your kids.What's this world wouldn't have been like for
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you? Yeah, it's been.It's been crazy, I guess is the
right word to say. It's emotional. Yep. Certainly, there's always been
that it's very hard to say goodbyeto something you love. And I said
that earlier. And we loved ourtime the last three years, and we
committed everything we had to turning thatprogram around and then showing up here the
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excitement and the joy that brings withnew opportunity, and then all of a
sudden it became all smiles and everyonewas happy. And then we kind of
went back and in our head andwhat happened if and then you know,
today was kind of the culmination.Today was the day that it's now we're
taking that starf forward and we areHuskies and we loved our time. We
appreciate it, but we're ready toroll. It's such a weird situation even
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to be here. I mean,your eight days removed from a national championship
game and now here's a new coach. And I thought you had and I
mentioned this on the year after yourpress Coverarge, I thought you had a
palpable sense of honesty to you andI and I really do appreciate that.
What would you say to Husky fansthough, that are really hurting right now?
I mean they are hurting. Theylost a national championship game, then
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they lost their head coach three dayslater. Yeah, that's hard. I
don't even know what to what tosay to him other than give us a
shot. Yeah, give us ashot to let us, you know,
work off of what he did anddo it our way. And you know,
there's this is the world we're inright now, and we can't control
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that. We can't control what happenedin the game against Michigan. Ye we
don't. You know, that game'sover. We can't control what happened when
coach Shaban retired. That happened.And we can't control what happened when the
hired coach to Boor. So nowit's a situation where we're here. We're
gonna give it everything we have.We're gonna build this program the way we
want to build it, which is, I would really say, our way,
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and we're gonna have some ups anddowns when we're doing that. But
I can't build it his way.I can't sustain it his way because I
don't know what his way was,right, So we're gonna have to do
it theirs. Well, I'm gladthat you mentioned it's not your fault,
because I was gonna blame you forthe fourth down miss to a Doonesday by
the way, in the first halfof that game. So I'm glad that
you're saying it's not your fault,but Jetfish is with us and coach,
I'm I'm curious because you mentioned PeteCarroll a couple of times. We gotten
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to know Peede obviously very well inthe last fourteen years or so. He
clearly had a philosophical change in hisapproach from his Jet Patriot days to his
USC Seahawk days. What about you, How are you a different coach than
the guy that maybe we would havebeen talking to ten fifteen years ago.
Oh well, I could say thebiggest thing is experience and what you've what
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you've been around, and who you'vebeen around. And you know, I
was offered or I interviewed for theArizona job in twenty eighteen and didn't get
the job at the end of twentyseventeen and wound up working for Sean mcvahan
Bill Belichick instead, And so I'ma lot better coach than if I did
get the job in twenty eighteen.So I had that experience then, you
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know, you get the job inArizona in twenty one, and you know,
you battle. You go from onewind to five to ten, and
you learn each each day how todo it, how to do it differently,
how to do it better. SoI would just say I've completely changed.
I understand what's important. I thinkmore and what is what is important?
I think less is best. Youknow, you need to figure out
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what your values are. For us, it's respect and accountability, integrity,
selflessness, and enthusiasm. And ifwe can take those mindset, we don't
need a million rules. We don'tneed to come to a place that everything's
all about you know this this this, this is live in the world of
respect, living the world of accountability, and have fun. You know,
have joy. We talked to ourteam about joy. I think I have
much more join now than I didfifteen years ago. Although being with Pete
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brought a lot of joy, butthat was rare and unique at that time.
No one had that personality of twentyten. So to be able to
see that you can be you,I think that would be what Pete would
say that he that changed him fromhis times to Jets and Patriots's time at
USC and then at Seattle was hewas him. He was him, and
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that's what we do. I feellike I have a lot of ability to
do that now, confidence to dolove. Joy is not a word I'd
use to describe Bill Belichick, butI do understand that he is maybe the
greatest NFL coach of all time.What did you learn from him? An
incredible competitive stamina that every day youneed to be able to bring it at
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the highest level. That there isno you know, no days off,
there is no kind of being offyour game. That there's a standard there
that you're expected that. Now,the whole Patriot Way, Belichick Way,
however you want to look at it, I always believed the way was the
standard. That the expectation of greatnessthe day you the second you walk in
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that door until you leave is thatyou have to be on top of your
game and every single thing you do. And we try to emphasize that at
our place. Uh now, we'lltry to emphasize that here that everybody that
walks in this door, coaches,players, support staff, et cetera.
They need to be at their Aplus game and if they are, it
keeps us our best chance. Mediainclude media. Yeah, without a doubt,
got you. Well, look,as long as you keep having spreads
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like this, you're going to makeit very very happy when it's all said
and up food guy, Big Food. Hey, I'm right there with you,
man, But Jetfish is with ushere Softie and Dick on on Mott
Lake and what what Dick said aboutthe way you handle that, And I
want to echo his thoughts because Iappreciate you understanding that. Hey, there's
questions that people have that there's somescars that we've been through in the last
week or so, and the andthe idea that you almost said, Hey,
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bring it on. I'm not goingto shy away from anything. I
really appreciate the fact but you didthat. But there's a term that people
have thrown around in the last fewdays about this job, and it's a
stepping stone. When you hear peoplesay things like that and wonder about Jetfish
and the word stepping stone, howdo you respond to that to where I
mean, where are you stepping too? You know, I don't think historically
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that I know of that many peoplestep from here to somewhere else. I
know that I can't think of manythat would say that they left here to
go take a different job that theythought was better. I know we're all
pointing to this one example, right, but there are no others. I
don't think that I can think ofthe job. The guys that have been
here in the past they didn't dothat. So I think it's a one
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time exception that they made it.That Coach de Board made a decision that
he felt that's what he wanted todo. But I don't know who else
has done it. And I thinkthat usually you got to look at more
of a sample set than just thelast one. How do you build a
culture in this day and age youspoke to culture building up there. This
game now is so transient and transactionaland money based, And how do you
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build a culture for as long asyou're here, whether it's two years or
twenty years. How do you builda culture when it is so transient and
transactional right now? I think you'vegot to just invest every second of your
day when you have them, andyou have to just be able to show
them that we're going to live thisday to the fullest, then this week
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to the fullest, then this monthto the fullest, and then the year,
and you can't get wrapped up in. Hey, we're going to build
a culture that in about two anda half years will be ready to go.
Right. You know, you justcan't do it. You've just got
to invest blood, sweat and tearsinto this year's culture. Well, it's
amazing how much things have changed rightin this game, and it's changed very,
very fast. I was talking toDick that two years ago, we're
sitting here at Coach to Borts pressconference and we're asking about Jake Hayne or
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transferring from Fresno State. Now there'squestions about McMillan and Fafita and Coleman,
guys like that. Can you giveus any kind of an update on where
we are with players coming from Tucsonto Seattle. Yeah, I don't know
if if anybody is in the portal, So I don't think I'm able to
talk about anybody. I think thatthe set of circumstances that are out there
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right now enables players to go inthe portal when there's a coaching change.
That's what we saw here. Ibelieve seventeen players went in the portal in
a matter of a twenty four hourspan. So I don't know, I
don't know what that's going to looklike I really believe that. I really
don't want to talk about that partof it because it there's a lot there.
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There's a lot to that, Andwhat's most important is whomever is here
when we started up will be theteam that we are committed to. We
had Rick new Eisl on the Morningshow and he called you, in a
very positive way, unrelenting in yourrecruiting. He mentioned you snuck into the
OJ trail when you're in college.He can't telling that story. Everybody's heard
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this. You gotta make a movieabout that. That story. Everybody's heard
that story twice. You want totell it now? And know and and
and you know. Troy called youmaniacal right in your recruiting. Give us
an example of Jedfish maniacal recruiting.You met my wife, I have not
yet. That's the example too.That's the example that I wound up.
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Uh. It was a pursuit,to say the least. She was living
in Dallas, and I got hiredin Houston, Texans and we met at
a convention like the year before,and I called her up and I said,
hey, uh, I just gothired here in uh, Texas,
and I don't know anyone who livesin Texas but you And she's like,
okay, She's like, I go, would you mind like getting together?
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Maybe grab a jerrys I'm sure itwas four hours away. Wow. So
that's a hell of a line.But I tell she thought I was in
Dallas. There you go, therewe go. So I had so I
said, well, one's a goodtime, and we picked a date and
uh, I just left it too. I didn't tell her yeah yeah,
and un if I get in thereat six. But uh we we went
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at a little ups and downs fora about a year or so to get
her to take the cheese and becomea Houston Texan. Wow, and we're
able to take her, get herto Houston, and then have taken her
on this crazy journey for twenty years. I love that. Well, that's
a hell of a story and thatyou're right, that is a great example
of a maniacal pursuit and you landedit. But jetfishes with us and Coach
I'm curious because kind of a weirddynamic going on. Now. I look
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over here, I see William Inge, our old co DC, and then
I see two old friends of ours, Coach Pow Powell and coach Doherty who
we know from their days past.Is there a chance that we could see
a little bit of a mix.I know you said you want to bring
your entire Arizona staff over here.Is there a chance that we could see
a coach or two from the previousstaff retained? Oh? Yeah, I
think there's always a chance for allof that. Really don't know exactly what
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it's going to look like, howit's going to go right, But I
think what's important is just to uhget the staff in place soon. Get
the staff in place quickly, andsee what we can do to really get
this thing going so we can haveas many coaches for recruiting and on the
road ready to go. You're gonnahave the visor. Is that an homage
to Steve Spurrier? It is?And are you a I mean, did
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you get your offensive philosophy from him? A product of him? Is that
what we're gonna kind of see thefun and gun? Yeah? I would
say one thousand percent. I'm aproduct of him. The visors completely for
him. Pay homage to him.Yep. Now there is a rule about
the visor when he was coaching,if it was raining, you were allowed
to wear a hat oh yeah,all right, So I don't want to
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hear it from you guys. Ifwe have enough rain and you're like,
you're not wearing Advisor, it's becauseit's raining. Okay. So that's a
big one. Rule number one.Rule number two is that every down is
third down. Right, there yougo. I like that. There's a
problem with your rain philosophy though you'rein Seattle. Now, you got to
define rain, man, What doesrain mean? Is rain? A thunderstorm?
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Is rain? A monster dune?We'll go out and play golf and
the rain. Don't tell a sprinklesa rain? Right? What is rain?
All right? Because we're gonna begetting on yet, it better be
a freaking thunderstore, my friend,I think my cup from the desert,
I think the rain expectation might bedifferent. There you go. I love
it, well a coach before yougo. It's funny because you get to
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know a lot of people in thisbusiness, and relationships come and go.
You have to restart a lot ofstuff, like we're going through right now
with a new ad and a newhead coach. But you talk to head
coaches, you say, what doyou do when your downtime? They always
look at me and say what downtime? I have no downtime. I have
no idea. What's on Apple Plusor Amazon or whatever. Is there anything
outside of football that we could lookdon't play a lot, but like it.
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And there's the home of pick aball? You know, I know,
Oh yeah, I know. I'vebeen told that a few times.
And just being together because right nowit's been so hard to spend a lot
of time together. So we justtry to find ways to enjoy each other
and see where it goes. Areyou a better pick a ball player or
a football coach? The football?There you go. Good answer. Hey,
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nice to meet, Thank you,Welcome to Seattle. Appreciate all right,
We're all big dog fans around here. Whatever you need from us,
say the we're looking forward again toknow your palf Thank you. Thank you.
Bet Jetfish with us on the radioshow here on Motlake. A chance
to meet with the new head coachof the Dogs and obviously has the personality,
no question about it. Maw.You talk about a guy that football
coaches when they become head coaches,they stop doing one thing, and that's
coaching football. Right, So we'llsee this guy's gonna work directly with the
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quarterbacks. We know that for sure. We know he's got a history obviously
lesson under his belt. He's talkingto Daman Hewart and Dana Hall and Spencer
Hawes right now. But he's gotto just get this thing settled down,
and I think it will. Ithink they'll do it very fast, Dave.
I just think back to the sameinterview we did two years ago with
kaylenor over there. This couldn't havebeen more different, right, Yeah,
this could not have been more dinner. I'll tell you why. Kaylen de
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bor sat. He stared straight aheadwith you on one side and me on
one side, and there was very, very little eye contact. Right now,
we got eye contact eventually from Kaylen. Where is it ben quote unquot
a friend but jet Fish. Imean, he was so comfortable talking to
us, where two years ago,I don't believe Kaylen de Moore was comfortable
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talking to us at all in thatfirst press. I'm not sure how comfortable
he is now, to be totallyhonest with you, I mean, there
are a lot of things about thetransition that I know he would love to
go back and do over again.Number One, we haven't even seen a
statement from the guy at all.I mean, he made Coach Fish put
a statement out I think yesterday,Yeah, thanking the Arizona people and moving
on all that stuff. The onlything we've seen from Kaylin de Bore is
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a quote that Ralph Russo from theAP got from him and regurgitated on social
media. So I just don't thinkhe's comfortable like that. This guy's comfortable
like that. This guy's going tobe an ex comfortable anywhere. Well.
He's going to be a hit withthe donors, He's going to be a
hit with the alums, he's goingto be a hit with the ex players,
with guys like Dana Hall walking aroundhere, Will Disley over there.
He's going to be a hit withall those guys. And he's going to
inspire people to step up and bea part of this entire thing. And
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that really, in a lot ofways, is what this is all about.
I told you guys yesterday or youknow, a couple days ago on
the show that the number one thingthat he needs is an NIL war chest,
and he needs it right now,by the way. So you get
a guy like Faffieda or McMillan,Teed McMillan, Noah Fefida to come over
from Arizona. Look, I don'tknow those guys at all. I've never
met him, but I'm assuming untilI don't assume that that the nil piece
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is going to be a gigantic partof this for everybody, including them I'm
starting today. I would think so. And I would think that there's never
been more NIL dollars in the Huskiescoffer than seven days after they played for
a national championship, Right you wouldthink you would think, Yeah, you
would think. I mean, Iknow that the last couple of weeks brought
in a lot of money to MontlakeFutures. I don't know how it compares
to other programs across the country,Dick, I really honestly have no idea,
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but I think they're at a prettyhealthy good spot right now. And
I think, look, in alot of ways, it stinks. And
I've said that before, I'll sayit again that we're asking fans. You're
you're paying a coach seven and ahalf million dollars, you're paying an eighty
one million bucks, you're playing abasketball coach couple million dollars. Yeah,
you're still asking fans to do moreand contribute more and I get how that's
a bad look for college, verybad. But I get that. I
thought it's reality. It's reality rightnow. So what do you want to
(29:00):
do if you want to whine aboutit or you want to do something about
it and be a part of it. That's exactly right. It is reality.
But you know what, like likeNeweisel said today with The Morning Guys,
it's unsustainable and it's not going tobe the model twenty years from what
part of it is unsustainable? Youthink the fans financially to be a part
of this way and continuing to askfans to be a part of this.
(29:22):
When money goes to a particular athlete, they play for one year and then
they lead to another school and prettysoon and this is I totally agree with
Rick when he said this, prettysoon, it's just gonna wear donors out.
They're like, no, I'm done. And I think eventually we're gonna
get revenue sharing where the athletes arebeing paid more in their scholarships, and
(29:42):
then we don't have to worry aboutit. We don't have to worry about
as much of just donors buying players. Yeah, I'm just kind of curious
what the prevailing emotion is for thefans right now that are listening out there
grab some texts at four nine fourfive one as well, But it is
the like, like, what's theconversation, Dick. Is the conversation right
(30:03):
now about Jed Fish and what kindof coach he is and what he can
do in recruiting and who he's bringingwith him from Arizona? Or is the
conversation more still about scars from thelast week and what college football looks like
and what Washington's future looks like.I mean, you know, coach Fish
was talking about, you know,the stepping stone thing, and he mentioned
to Boor going to Alabama. Well, the other one is start going to
(30:25):
USC, which I get. He'sfrom California, he had roots with Pete
carrolln USC. I understood it,and I gotta be honest with you,
man, I understood it when Rickwas looking at the Niners, you know,
twenty two years ago or whatever itwas. I totally get that going
from here to the NFL, goingfrom here to USC, if you're starting
going from here to Alabama, ifyou're kickling to Boor, I get all
that stuff. I guess what you'rekind of naively, maybe hoping for is
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that Washington can find a guy thatcan be here for ten years and says
I don't need to leave because everythingI need is right here. And those
guys become legends. Those guys arespecial. And right now we haven't had
one an obviously since Jim Lambrighton DonJames. No, that's exact. I
think the scars are still there.I think that's predominantly emotion. I think
we'll see that on the text line. That's certainly my predominant emotion. I
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think the emotions will change once wesee what the twenty twenty four roster is
going to look like. Right becauseright now, my god, if we
played a football game tomorrow, wewouldn't have a quarterback. We'd have a
running back coming off of a seasonlong injury that we'd throw in there.
We got basically no receivers. Imean, it's just it's a mess right
(31:30):
now. Hey, let's face it. The opportunity for little victories for him
right now is there? Every singleday? Oh? Absolutely. For example,
Let's say they announced tomorrow that no, if a feat is transferring to
UP, what's the reaction gonna befrom Husky Dation. They're gonna be fired
up. That's right. McMillan comes. They're gonna be fired up. The
Jonah Coleman thing becomes official. They'regonna be fired. Jeremy Bernard decides to
(31:52):
stay. Parker Brailsford decides to stay. Powell decides to stay. How you're
talking all of a sudden, you'regetting credit for something that you already had,
right, Like, we're gonna say, wait a minute, this guy
was already here. Yeah, butthe fact that we got him back is
a win for hid. It meanssomething, though, Tell those guys coming
back tells me something about Jetfish?Yes, right, and so if those
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names that you just mentioned are agood chunk of those names just mentioned are
here two weeks from now, Yeah, that tells me something about this guy.
I just wonder though, and Iagree with that, I'll give you
that. I wonder though, howmuch of that is no longer about Jetfish
and his charisma and his salesmanship versusthe bottom damn line, which is how
much money am I getting to comeback to school? Right? Because in
(32:36):
the old days, recruiting was aboutrelationships, right, Recruiting was about,
Hey, let's get to know thiskid when he's in eighth grade or little
Bobby came to my camp when hewas seven and he fell in love with
Husky football. I got to knowhis parents, and I've been going to
all his football games, and Icall him on his birthday and I send
him a card that stuff used tomatter. I'm not saying it doesn't matter
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at all right now, Dick,And then it doesn't matter, right,
It doesn't matter as much as heused to. So I think this has
got to be a collective effort,guys, by everybody that calls themselves a
Husky football fan. Jed Fish hasto go out and do his job as
a salesman. He's got to dohis job as a recruiter and as a
leader and a football coach, andwe as fans have to do our job
of making sure he has the biggestwar chest possible to compete with other schools
(33:21):
that are trying to poach players offthe rocks. You know, it's a
little heriot. It's a little hypocriticalthough, because we've always shied away at
the pro level of saying, hey, in order to be a fan,
you got to go buy tickets,right and that's you know, and hey,
look you shout away from that,and now we're saying, in order
to be a fan, you gotto pay money to Montley Future. Well,
you know what, And I gethow you would say that. I'm
not saying that though. That's notwhat I'm saying, because I know some
(33:44):
people can't afford to do it,right Heariot They can't, And I get
that. I mean there's a guyout there who coaches a particular team on
the East Coast, who you knowvery well, who basically said exactly what
you're saying. If you don't donatemoney to our NIL collective, then shut
the hell up. You cannot havean opinion about our football team, which
I think is nonsense, absolute nonsense. There are people that have been diehard
(34:05):
Dog fans for fifty sixty seventy fiveyears, and just because they can't afford
to give money to an n ALcollective does not make their opinion any less
or more valid. And you weremine. But I do think that the
people that can do it, there'san opportunity for you to make an impact
like never before. That's fair.Now you can make an impact. Now
you can directly impact what kind offootball player your team. Yes, that's
(34:29):
right, that's and that's different thanbying tickets to the Seahawks, right right,
buying tickets to the marriage just becauseyou know they're gonna spend The Seahawks
are gonna spend just as much moneyif they have sixty eight thousand people of
the game, then if they havesixty two thousand, let's do this.
We're gonna break. I think we'regonna talk to Ian Furness Fertile Cross Talk
coming up next, Softian Dick infor Jim and Jason right here on ninety
(34:51):
three three KJRFM. You dub,I'm staring at the Husky Stadium, John
(35:12):
Boutron there, welcome Jetfish. He'sgot the visor on obviously, uh,
a staple of his. I thought, good question by you, Dick.
That's an ode to Steve Spurrier,no question about it. Learned a lot
from coach Spurrier when he was astudent at Florida. But says he can
take the visor off if there's rain. We're still waiting to see what he
thinks rain is because rain to youand I might be different than rain to
(35:34):
Jetfish. But there's only one Huskygame a year. About that you would
have rain that he couldn't take thevisor, maybe the apple cup whatever,
something like that. But ian foran ass back in the studio. I
don't know about you, man,I get used to this ten to one
thing about this is pretty cool golftime. I'll be on a team about
a half an hour. Guys goingon. You guys make it you guys,
make it sound like you are thewinners today. The winners were named
Jim Moore and Jason Puckett. Theywon the lottery today and their producers here
(35:58):
working. Right, howcome your guyJackson didn't come in and produce your show?
How come kid is the only memberof that ten to one group that
had to work today. I'll tellyou why, because you now know about
Jackson what Dick and I know he'sa huge slackers that would sum it up
then right then and there, guygan it slacker. I see Jackson in
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there. Nope, I see thehard working see kid two o six let's
go. Yeah. We would havebeen here no matter what for this obviously,
so you may as well go onthe air and uh and need to
talk to people about it. Butyou know we were here two years ago
for Kaitlyn to boor in this exactspot. Before that, it was Chris
Peterson handing off to Jimmy Lake andthe Don James Center. Before that,
it was Steve Sarkisian handing off toChris Peterson right here, and before that
(36:43):
it was Tyrone handing off the Starkand the Don jameson too many of them.
We're kind of bouncing back and forthbetween these two spots, and I'm
with Dicky, and I'm getting alittle tired of this. I think it'd
be nice to kind of have thisguy settle down here for a little bit
and be the Husky coach for awhile. Welcome to college football, man,
right, you know, I don'tknow why you think it's going to
change. I mean, that's justthe world we live in. And you
(37:04):
know the fact that you know,guys like Saban were at his well,
even Pete Carroll in the NFL.Was it displaced for fourteen years? Sneyder
talked about that today. It justdoesn't happen anymore in college coaches. It's
even worse where you know, whetheryou want to call it a stepping stone
or not, Dick, I heardyour comments earlier, right, I mean,
there's probably only like you know,four or five schools in the country
that aren't quote stepping stones. ButI don't know if I like that term.
(37:25):
I think it's just you know,you it doesn't matter what position you're
in or what job you're in.You know, Listen, sometimes you look
for the bigger, better thing downthe road, maybe more money or what
have you. Maybe you just havethe ability or you want to have the
ability to be the very best thetop of your profession, and maybe that's
not your current spot, you know. I mean, hell, look at
us, We're dinosaurs guys, honestlyin our business, Like our business is
(37:47):
the most transient business in the world. Like what we do here is amazing.
Like the fact that you know,isn't Chuck the shortest tenured guy.
He's been here for what eight ornine years? That just doesn't happen,
you know, Yeah, no,it's true. And you know, I
think Jetfish, I'm not going tolet myself when Jetfish leaves here, and
let's hope he leaves here with asimilar type of you know, similar type
(38:09):
to Kaylen de Bor's success. I'mnot going to let myself be emotionally bothered
by like that like I have beenthe last week with Kaylen because I really
thought that's easier said than done.That's easier. Come on, if this
guy wins and then takes off,I mean, there's gonna be a but.
But I do think what you said, you though, is right on
(38:30):
that this is what college football nowhas become. And maybe I naively was
late to the party to accept thata little bit. Well, it's also
changed a little bit in the recentyears because you know, I heard your
segment a little bit of your segmentin the last a few minutes ago,
Dave, when you're talking about,you know, the nil world, and
(38:51):
you know, because of that,it's changed from that standpoint because now guys,
there's coaches that are kind of oldschool or just you know, are
kind of past that they don't wantto deal with that stuff. It's it's
bad enough when you have to goto whatever Tayee Club at Washington or Kugar
Athletic Fun at Wazoo and say,okay, I need money and we need
money for scholarships and scholarship athletes oror facilities, right, but now you've
(39:15):
got to also go to the otherpart of the fundraising equation and say,
hey, now I not only needmoney for a facility, or this.
I also now need money to payyou know, my wide receiver or my
quarterback to stay. And I thinkthat's exhausting for a lot of guys in
that particular business. And it's Imean, recruiting is exhausting. Now you've
added a whole new element to it, and it's just a different world that
(39:36):
we're living in right now. Fain. I hope you're right, man.
I hope at some point that youknow, whatever that gap they call it,
the cost to attend and so forth, I hope that grows to the
point where we're not looking at,you know, nil for backup offensive linemen
and long snappers. I mean,it's one thing if you pay a Heisman
Trophy caliber quarterback or a top flightrunning back or a shutdown corner an edgeresher,
(39:58):
but work with the original purpose.So I think Rick new Eizel's right
when he says this is completely unsustainable. You're not going to keep being able
to come to these donors a yearafter year after year when these guys just
end up leaving after a year ortwo anyway, and that we're going to
get revenue sharing at a certain stent, at a certain time where everybody's going
to get paid more, and thenyou can really get the nil dollars to
(40:20):
the people that need the end thatdeserve the nil dollars because they're actually people
that the fans want to come outand get autograd. I just think,
I just think the purpose of itwas to let these kids capitalize and get
market rate for their name, whateverthat is. I mean, it's as
crazy as it sounds to give moneyto a guy who is a backup and
isn't going to play. If that'swhat the market supplies, then that's what
(40:42):
the market supplies. Yeah, themarket supply. Yeah, the market supplies
it because if someone else is willingto pay him, Yeah, it's it's
because I'm with you, like,you know, name, image and likeness,
Like how many college I just chuck, Like the whole lawsuit going on
right now is a swimmer from ArizonaState? Is you know the guy that's
name is on that Dude, youdidn't generate one dollar. You cost your
universe see over one hundred and fiftythousand dollars a year period. You know.
But that's that's the world. Listen, that's the world we live in.
(41:05):
And if you guys have another oneof these news conferences in you know,
one, two, three, four, ten years. Whenever, it
is one of two things. Eitherhe's had success and he's moving to the
he's gonna jump to the National FootballLeague. I heard him sail was stepping.
So buddy, come on, ifthe NFL comes calling your name because
you've had success year and you're gonnamake you know, twelve fifteen million dollars
a year, you're out. That'swhat you're gonna do. Or the other
(41:28):
side, obviously, is the JimmyLake type of press conference, and nobody
wants to have that. Yeah.Well, I mean I thought he was
pretty honest about everything. I too, I agree with what Dick said.
I mean, you know, there'sthere's a kind of no BS thing with
him going on a little bit.Maybe it's because he's from New Jersey.
I have no idea. Maybe it'sbecause the East Coast guy whatever, but
there is a no BS thing,And if I'm him, I'm like,
hey, my my resume speaks foritself. I've been at ten spots in
(41:49):
fourteen years or whatever it is,right, I mean, that's right there,
Like anybody can look that up andsee what my track record looks like.
So I'm what I'm hopeful for guysin Ian is that this is only
his second full time head coaching job. Okay, he was an interim coach
for two games after Jim Moore gotwhacked at UCLA. He took over and
he went one and one. Thenhe got the Arizona job. A few
(42:09):
years later. He went seventeen andtwenty two, but he won seven straight.
Went from one to eleven to tenand three, Like that's real,
that actually happens. So I'm hopingthat now that he's in the head coaching
circle and not the analyst or theoffensive coordinator or quarterback coach circle, that
maybe things for him will settle downa little bit. Have you seen Jane
Dolaura on campus? Hit? Ishe there with him? Or no?
(42:30):
He's at Texas State? Is thatwhere he went? He didn't hear that
in Texas State? He transferred toTexas State? Yes, you think I
can keep up with this stuff?You kidding? You have me? But
well, we're waiting on Fafida andMcMillan, And I know Dennis Dodd said
that those guys may stay down therein Tucson. But then Felben reported that
Kevin Cummings, who was the widereceiver coach down there, who those guys
(42:52):
apparently are in love with, andhe's in Seattle. He may be coming
with Jed Finisher. Was some wordthat maybe if Johnny Nansen got the job,
those guys would stay, But JhnniNansen right now is set to go
work with Sark and Kwakowski and bethe co defensive coordinator at Texas. So
if he would have gotten the edgejob at Arizona, he would have stayed
there. But that's the thing thatkind of sucks about this is that we're
all sitting here just kind of aNott's about what happened to Washington's program and
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the Raider. Yeah, and herewe are rooting for the exact same thing
to happen in tu Soon. Well, i'd say, I'd say it's hypocritical,
but it's just college football. It'slike I loved I'd love to throw
a stone at you guys and say, you know you're you're being jackasses and
you're you know you're you're as badas anybody else. But the problem is
is that's the that's the vicious circle. There's there might be ten or fifteen
fans at San Jose State that aremad right now because what's going on there
(43:35):
with Arizona. If we if wesit here and say, you know what,
we're gonna take the high road.Guess what, you don't have a
team. Yeah, we're gonna bethree and nine. Okay, great,
Like we got the moral ground.We could go back and say that we
didn't do it. But then we'resitting there, we have no players.
I mean, it's like, youknow, Jim Mora, I know,
regrets not taking the Husky job allthose years, and he can say though
that I never left my players,I never turned their back or my back
(43:57):
on them. But at the sametime he also lost tremendous opportunities for himself.
So I don't know how you dothis Ian if you're a head coach
without ruining relationships and hurting people's feelingsin response, you don't. I mean,
you just it's it's very simple.You don't. It's it's it's a
cutthroat business. It's also the youknow, listen, the job of coaching
in football at the highest level,whether it be Division one in college or
(44:21):
or the NFL. And and hell, even if you're John Schneider and you're
a GM in the NFL. It'sthe most cutthroat thing in the world because
it's if you don't take care ofnumber one, someone else is gonna terf
you. It's as simple as that. And so you've got to take care
and that means raiding other schools,that means going after guys. I still,
as a parent, can't get past. I can't get past the fact
that guys bounce so fast and soquick. And I always think to myself,
(44:45):
have you not made any type ofscrew the coaching staff, like a
coaching staff aside? You don't spendyour whole world with a coaching staff.
And I'm just I'm talking in general. Trumps'm not saying Washington, Arizona,
Alabama, anybody else. I'm justsaying, how do these kids? How
these young people that just bounce quicklylike they do? And three guys?
You know, there's guys doing itthree years in three schools? Do not
(45:05):
develop relationships with your teammates? DoYou don't have roommates that you want to
hang out with and enjoy college with? Like? Where has that gone?
And I guess that's the data methat kind of thinks about that all the
time, that part I'll never understand. Maybe it's chasing the almighty buck,
but hell, a lot of thosekids are making money where they're at anyway,
so it doesn't make sense. Yeah, well I got news for your
pal as you you said it perfectlyto start the segment and our clothes with
(45:28):
exactly what you said. We aredinosaurs, pal A dinosaurs, and people
just don't think like us anymore.It's right, good time, Right,
what's what's coming up on your onyour show? Well, well, you
guys were you know, spreading yourpurple and joy love over their purple and
gold joy fest over there, andlike I was hanging out with John Schneider
today and you know, we believethat was his first ever solo news conference
(45:52):
in Seattle. Really it's right becausePete's always with him, He's always been
at his side, and so Iwas over there. I got a few
quick quessians in we'll we'll kind ofI'm gonna ask the listeners to try to
you know, how we used totry to translate Pete. I'm gonna see
if we can. I'm gonna seewe can translate Schneider today and what he's
looking for a coach and what wentdown with Pete Carroll, so we'll have
(46:13):
some fun with that as the daygoes on. But there's a lot of
a lot of stuff in that worldtoo, because I mean, we we
just I don't think, guys,we've ever had, you know, an
eight or nine day stretch since I'vebeen here and I got back here in
six I don't think we've had astretch like we have had over the last
eight days. And next k irffcea
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