October 8, 2025 • 41 mins
Chuck and Buck join the show LIVE from Detroit to break down the game 4 loss vs the Tigers, what chance do you give the Mariners in game 5? We take your talkbacks reacting to the ALDS game 4 loss, and we hear from Cal Raleigh in the locker room after the game.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:23):
All right, we're back, Sofia and Dick checking Buck in
Detroit joining us in a matter of seconds. Update from
the Major League Baseball Scoreboard. Cubs with the Brewers four two,
bottom five, Milwaukee looking for the series win against the Cubbies,
left to come from behind to pull that one off.
Blue Jay's Yankees at four to eight, Phillies Dodgers at
six oh eight. Mariners lose nine to three in Detroit.
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There will be a game five. There will be a
tomorrow night. If you're a Tiger fan, we don't want
to hear that as Mariner fans, but Tiger fans did.
If the Blue Jays win, the game is at five oweight.
If the Yankees win, the game is at one forty
on Friday. Either way at t Mobile Park. We know
Trek Scuba will pitch for the Tigers. We don't know
yet at this moment who will start for the Mariners.
But let's go back to Camerica Park, Detroit, rock City,
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where the stadium wasn't exactly rocking until the Mariner bullpen
came in that was booing in the fifth inning and
just completely melted down. Chuck Powell, Bucky Jacobson rejoin us
courtesy of these Laquami casino from Detroit, and gentlemen, Chuck
will start with you because we haven't gotten your thoughts yet.
First of all, great stuff from the clubhouse, my man,
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and then number two, your thoughts, dude, on what we
just saw over three hours in Detroit.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
I saw a baseball team that was given a standing
eight count, got up at seven and a half seconds,
what you know, you know, kind of staggered from the corner.
The referee checked the Tiger's eyes, said I think they're
good to go go ahead and touch gloves and let's
start fighting again. And then all of a sudden, like
(01:57):
a six feet pound of smelling salts, Gabe Spire came
into the game, didn't have his stuff, and they just
woke up. I mean, this place was dead this city.
Last night, Bucky and I went out on the town
and every Tiger fan that we talked to, now they're
very nice people. As it turns out, every person that
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we talked to is like, it's over you guys won.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Yeah, we're not.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Coming back from this. And so that was very representative.
In the thousands of empty seats that the game started with,
it was representative. And the booing that took place of
the Tigers from the third through the fourth innings down
three to nothing, and then all of a sudden, like magic,
the team woke up and Gabe Spire and Eduard Bizardo
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could not miss a bat and the next thing you know,
we're talking about pinning our hopes on a Game five
in Seattle against maybe the best left handed pitcher in
the galaxy.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Let's talk about Spire.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
It seemed like if you had a hole in the
middle of the plate the size of a golf hole.
I mean, Spire put the bay through that hole about
nine different times. I mean, everything was middle middle was
Was it fatigue? Is Is that what caused the lack
of command? Because I can't imagine he was aiming for
the middle to strike zone every pitch well.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I can't imagine he's fatigue, not at this time of
the year. He didn't pitch yesterday. I just think he
had an off day. And that's the way he acted
downstairs in the clubhouse. It just heard his scrum with
the media, and he did not seem downtrodden. He just
kind of seemed a matter of fact, I didn't have
it today. He was two three miles per hour below
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his velocity. You're right, he was just throwing everything over
the heart of the plate. He just didn't have it,
and he picked a terrible time not to have it.
And I said at the beginning of the series, I
took a really odd person to name as the guy
that might be the key to this entire series, and
Gabe Spire has been it in many, many spectacular ways.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
The fact that he wasn't.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Used in time in game number one might have been
the reason that we lost that game.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
The fact that he was used.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
In time in game number two might be the reason
why the Mariners won that game. And then the fact
that he just was off his game today might be
the reason that the Mariners lost this game. So Gabe
Spiers hot and cold strange series continues, and right now
we're all even at two games apiece, with that Game
five staaring us in the face.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Well, Bucky's with us as well from Detroit and Bucky
wanting your way in here. Dick and I were talking
off the ear about who's got the pressure on them,
and both of us agree it's on the Mariners. You know,
a three to nothing lead in the fifth inning of
Game four is probably a game that you should have
won and you couldn't get it done because your bullpen
couldn't finish the job. So talk about the emotions going
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into game five. I mean, is it a good thing
the Mariners have a day off? Would you rather have
him right back out there tomorrow? Good thing they're playing
at home. Bad thing they're playing at home. Give me
all the intangibles you think to come along with game
five now from a Seattle perspective, But.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Yeah, I mean I think I would. I think the
pressure probably is back on the Marriagers. But it's not
like there's no pressure on them. They don't get, you know,
to start with a half a run or anything like that,
simply because they forced the game five. But you know,
the two objectives were one team would say Hey, let's
let's you know, feel the deal here. The other team
was saying, hey, let's force the game five. They accomplish
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their mission. Now they still have to go out there
and figure out a way to get it done in Seattle,
and we've kind of had there. We've had just about
airbody's number as of late. In Seattle. We're going to
get to throw a good picture. They're going to get
to throw a better picture now on any given day,
I don't care who it is. You can outdue a
guy that's gonna win the cy Young. If if it
was as easy as just throwing the better guy out
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there that has shown it that more often than not
he's going to win, then we would just already concede.
Right you just say, well, more often than not, you're
guys gonna win. Well, that's just not the way that
it goes. So there's pressure. But I think that this
team kind of like playing it those pressure situations. I
think that they, for whatever reason, when when they get
a little bit too comfortable, things don't necessarily go their way.
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I mean, one thing I'll just add on this, the
game's fire thing. I think that nowadays because I've heard
multiple people say it. I know Munhos does it. I
think Spire Aspire does it. I think a lot of guys,
especially hard throwing relievers, I think a lot of time
they try to throw it right down the middle and
then if it misses to a corner, still be it.
There's been a ton of times that I watch baseball,
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whether it's Mariners or anybody else, and I see a
lot of pitches right down the middle. Well, they get
away with it with plus velocity. But there's certain days,
especially when you get into the playoffs, where you need
to sometimes be thrown to one half of the plate
and missing off the plate in or off the plate away,
and uh Yeahspire just didn't have it today. But you know,
I think all these guys basically will have plushed this
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on the flight back and it'll be immediately moving on
to the next thing, studying tape, studying things that you're
going to do, because you got to bring your a
game when you're going to have Trek Scrugel on the
ball up against you.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
Yes, often I agree that the pressures is on Seattle.
I think almost though it feels like it's going to
be heavier on the fan base more than it will
be on the players, and Bucky maybe you can speak
to that. Does the pressure present itself on the players
from the first inning on or does it start to
present itself as soon as one team gets ahead of
the other in a deciding game, and then the pressures
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on the shoulders of the team that's down one nothing
or two nothing.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Yeah, I think that. I think that we as fans
most certainly feel it differently than they do, you know.
I mean, the pressure of being on the team and
having to go out there and actually perform is it's
a different kind of pressure when you don't get to
do anything to contribute to the win. Well, you obviously
don't have the pressure of failing in front of forty
fifty thousand people either, But I think the pressure when
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you get out there is that this is what you
should be hoping for. Most of these guys they want
to be in a pressure situation. That's part of what
their mental makeup is. That's why they've made it to
the level they've made it at. I mean, I already
watched a video of the pressor with Eric Spougle, and
that's what he said. He goes, this is competition, this
is what you play for. Us for Game five or
Game sevens when all the marbles we all did it
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playing whippleball in the backyard, right you all did? Oh,
bases are loaded, We're down by three, bottom of the
nineteen inning, Game seven of the World Series. You pretend
to be in that situation. The difference is we, as fans,
myself included, never got to actually experience that. These guys
are going to get to experience it. So if you will,
you probably didn't make it to the big leagues. If
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you're a guy that doesn't want to be in that situation,
you're probably not one of these. So it basically comes
down to all of the guys on both teams are
going to be want to be in that position. The
difference is who's going to actually take advantage of it?
And you're gonna let that opportunity.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Chuck pol Bucky Jacobson with us from Detroit Baseball's Best
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calls talkbacks as well. In the next maybe twenty five
thirty minutes or so on the radio show, I'll let
you invake your spleen a bit here on the program.
But Chuck, you mentioned on social media on your Twitter
account that you thought it was the right move to
(09:07):
pull Bryce.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Miller in the bottom of the fifth inning.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
They leave him in, he gives up the double the
Dingler for the first run of the game for the Tigers,
and then all hell breaks loose after that. Aj Hinch
comes in and he brings a pinch hitter Jami Jones
off the bench to face Spire and he ties it
up at three to three. So tell me in the
moment and tell me hindsight, because that's a major talking
point from some fans and media. Did Wilson make the
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right move pulling Bryce Miller when he did?
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Yeah? He did.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I mean, you were going into this game, I'm pretty
much going to manage it like a decisive game. You
had a chance to kind of manage it like two
game fives with the day off in between, and so
I figured that Bryce was going to have a short leash.
I figured it could have even been shorter than what
it was. I mean, he was good, he was really good.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
He stepped up.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
I'm not surprised. I mean, I call him Clint Eastwood.
His heart rate just never climbs so I figured he
was going to be good, But I also figured that
Dan was going to have a quick hook. And look,
everybody's everybody is surprised that Gabe Spire didn't have it.
Gabe Spier was looking like the best reliever in this
entire series, aj Hinch, I guarantee you was surprised that
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Gabe Spire didn't have it here tonight. My goodness, he
threw arguably his best reliever in the third inning to
get out of the Bas's loaded jam. That's how desperate
he was to stay in the game at that point.
He knew what was coming. He knew Bryce was gonna
get pulled, and he was going to have to face
this Mariner's bullpen for four or five innings. And so
the fact that Gabe didn't have it, I don't think
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Dan Wilson can be blamed for not having that kind
of foresight. The fact that Bizardo didn't have it, I
don't think Dan Wilson can be blamed for not having
that kind of foresight. Bizardo's been outstanding all season long,
but today those two guys couldn't get a Tiger hitter
out and that's why we lost the game. And that's
why we're heading back with this thing undecided. But I
(11:04):
don't think you can put this. I mean, look, I've
been critical of Dan's decisions a lot this year, and
I thought he was going to struggle with the speed
of the postseason. But I went into this thinking that
he was going to have a quick hook on Bryce Miller.
So when he did pull him out of the game,
I don't think that it was too early at all.
I thought it was right on time, if not a
bat or too late.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Dan has not named the starter yet for Game number five.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
Chuck.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
We talked to Buck about this earlier. Give us your
best case scenario for Dan.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
Do you go with the Rock who pitched on Sunday
eighty five pitches? Do you go with Kirby who threw
ninety four on Saturday? And furthermore, how available is Logan
Gilbert after throwing eighty five pitches on Tuesday, maybe coming
out of the pen.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
I wouldn't think that he is available. I just I mean,
they have these guys on such strict schedules and routines.
Usually when that gets disrupted, we see the worst versions
of them. George is going to be on full rest.
I would imagine he is going to be the starter.
(12:10):
But again, you're looking at a bullpen game. Again, I
would imagine in another quick hook that people can be
nervous about whether or not Dan makes that decision at
the right time. I think Castillo certainly is available if
they feel he's he is will accept the role of
out of the bullpen. It's just not something that he's
(12:31):
done a lot. I would imagine that he is certainly available.
I guarantee you he'll answer the bell. Whether or not
he's going to be effective, we have no idea, We've
never seen it, but I think it will ultimately end
up being George Kirby. There's a reason why they went
with him in game one. They are very confident with
his with his stuff, his ability to rise to an occasion.
(12:53):
I really do wish we had a fully rested Logan Gilbert.
I wish he would have started game one, but that
that certainly can be erase. So I would imagine Logan
Gilbert is not available, but I would imagine everybody else
not named Logan Gilbert or Bryce Miller would be Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I agree with your point about you know, kind of
a fish out of water. Sometimes we don't see you know,
a guy's best. I mean, this isn't ninety five anymore,
where Randy Johnson can throw one hundred and seventeen pitches
on a Tuesday and then come in two days later
out of the bullpen and give up a lead, but
Edgar Martinez saves his ass. Right, So those days are over.
(13:29):
But Bucky, you know, just just go back and talk
a little bit more about about Friday, because I feel
like now that's what should be discussed, right, Like today
was a huge bummer.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
It was a massive letdown.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
But you got to find a way to rally the
game plan that these guys have had against scooball the
first three times. He's zero and two with a four
point five eight ERA in three starts against the Mariners.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Do you change anything?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Do you take anything from the previous three game plans
that you want to bring with you again Friday?
Speaker 5 (14:00):
I mean, I'd think first and foremost. You know, you
could hear it in the interview that Chuck got from
Logan or yeah, from Gilbert, I mean that it didn't
sound like he's overly worried. I mean, ultimately, yeah, you
get to today, and like, boy, if you could pull
out two wins on the road, then you're feeling pretty good.
But really, I think Detroit when they were flying back
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here after winning one of two on the road, they
kind of feel like they stole back. They stole home
field advantage, right, you come to their place and split
with them, You did the exact same thing. And now
it just comes down one game. You are going against
one of the best pitchers on the planet, and yet
they've answered this call three different times this season. Now,
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is it one of those things I hear all the
time it's tough to be the team three times in
one season. Well, it's probably tough to be the starter
four times one season. But there's also things like streets.
There's also things like just there's a confidence that comes
in if all of a sudden, you're facing somebody you
know you can't make mistakes against, well maybe you're in
a little bit more so. There's a lot of things
that are going in the favor of the Mariners, while
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on the flip side of it, there's gonna be another
plane pull of guys that feel like everything is going
in their direction. They just won, they just forced the
game five, and they got the ace going. Well, I mean,
we got we're gonna have whether they end up going
with George Kirby or they go with Luis Castillo, we're
gonna feel like we have an ace, and we're gonna
feel like we gotta have an ace up a sleeve
that we can pull a hook and bring another guy
in as quick as you kind of feel like you
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need that. I don't feel like they have that same
luxury where they're sitting there thinking with boy, if these
guys get to our ace, that's fine. We got another
one just waiting in the wings. So that is there's
there's different ways of looking at it, whether you can
think of it an advantage or not really boiled down
to go up, be ready. I think these boys by
the time they land in Seattle are gonna be pumped
about playing this game in Seattle on Friday.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Well, but what's frustrating?
Speaker 6 (15:50):
And then actually I'm a little bit optimistic about the
same thought.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
And here's the thought.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
It's the thought that that Chuck has been professing for
for days and I've totally agreed with We're just a
better baseball team than Detroit is. And so what's frustrating
is we even had to get the game five against
these Slubs. But then what's optimistic about it is yeh,
Scoople's going game five, what I believe were the better
baseball team than Detroit overall, so we should win the game.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Yeah, I meanly would add on to that.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
I mean, how well this team plays at home, how
much they're already talking about looking forward to playing in
front of that crowd. I asked Logan about it, and
he's what his expectation was, and he just said loud.
So I think that this is a team that I mean,
homefield advantage isn't a great advantage in the sport of baseball.
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It typically, you know, doesn't have the impact it can't
have in other sports, but I do believe that it
is impactful for this baseball team. Now, Detroit takes the momentum,
and they certainly on paper, got the better starting pitcher,
but we've already beaten him three times this year. So
we go to see, Yah, we get loud, we sell
the place out, and see if that isn't worth a
(17:04):
half a run? Uh see if that isn't worth the
difference in a tight ball game that we're all expecting
to see go down Friday at home?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Uh Chuck pow Bucky Jacobson. Who's the hero gonna be?
Tell us tell us on on on Saturday morning when
we wake up and the Mariners have one. I think
you tweeted this out, Chuck, that you expected the Tigers
bottom of the order right to maybe do some damage
potentially Uh in a in a in a game like this. Uh,
you had some foresight there. Who's the hero gonna be
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if the m's pull this off? Who's the Who's the
superman for us?
Speaker 7 (17:41):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (17:41):
I think it might end up being the bullpen? And
you know, uh, look, it's been the year of Col,
so you know I am vision maybe uh to two
tie late and maybe Col walks it off in the
bottom of the night. How about that.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah for a story.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
But in order to keep it to too, I mean,
I think SCO's gonna Scoobol's gonna go seven innings, I
would imagine, and maybe even more than that. So you're
gonna have to work this combination of pitchers perfectly if
you're Dan Wilson, and then every everybody's gotta show up.
I mean I thought he'd worked it well today, but
(18:19):
not everybody showed up out of the bullpen, So I
wouldn't be surprised if Andre's Munnos doesn't like suck it
up for six outs, Devin outs. Matt Brash, who hasn't
really pitched more than an inning all year long, might
have to go an inning plus uh in this game.
So we might see some heroes out of the bullpen
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that end up deciding it and having to go several
innings versus a tigers pin that may only have to
go one or two on Friday. So maybe the heroes
come out of the bullpen just as they were the
goats here today.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Well that's the thing, Bucky, is that with this game five,
I mean this is, you know, the first real elimination game.
Obviously the M's have played all year and Detroit, We're
gonna see some weird stuff on Friday that you never
would see in a regular season game. So what about you,
who's your pick to click for the game on Friday.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
I think this is the same where you've got to
figure out, you've got to figure out who's gonna want
it more, right, and it's it's you could be one
through nine, But I think they're throwing their best. The
bust player on their team is going to be towing
the rubber and wearing back and throwing a hundred pitches
trying to see if you can touch them. It's time
for the most talented person on the field, period, and
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Julu Rodrigez to step up. I watched Julio Rodriguez get
multiple fastballs blown by him by Scoobo, and understandably so
he just joins the crowd of everybody else in MLB.
But this is a situation where it's game five, You're
gonna have a packed house, it's winner go home. Hulu
Rodriguez is the most emotional player on the team, and
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when I mean that, he's the type of guy that
feeds off of that the most. That's why he's given
the no flyes Owe, That's why he plays the way
that he plays. This is a situation and that he
needs to stump up and say you're not beating me
with one of those and if he can, he can
be the guy like war Ape Long, we're running into
a couple of mistakes. Yeah, now you can get into
the situation where you can you can rear back and
(20:11):
lean on your Matt Brashes and your monos to hopefully
lock something down.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
All right, we got more audio to get to you
in the clubhouse. We're gonna get to some talkbacks as well. Uh,
you guys, go grab a pizza or something, and maybe
a couple of pictures of beer because you you deserve it.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
I assume that you're on a flight back tonight tomorrow.
What's the plan for you guys?
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Now, we do one more show tomorrow morning show here
from Detroit tomorrow, and then afterwards we'll get on the plane,
get back Thursday night, roll it right back over to
a Friday morning show, and then head to the Ballyard
for Game number five. So yeah, it's uh, it's been
quite an adventure so far. Uh, mostly fun. We've had
a great time, but we're obviously that's very disappointing to
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be not coming home with her feet up on the
desk and just thinking about having a weekend off before
we get started, just waiting for our opponent. But nevertheless,
game five those are the most memorable ones, right, So
let's just envision Cal walking off Will Vest with a
two run homer in the bottom of the ninth Friday.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
It's the first time the Mariners have played a Game
five since two thousand and one, when they played the
Indians and they won at home with Jamie Moyer on
the mound twenty four years ago.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
So let's hope it goes the same way. Guys. All right, guys,
great stuff, and we'll see when you get back home.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Thanks, guys, All right, man later, guys.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
All right, Chucking Buck, we're gonna break. We got more
audio from the clubhouse to get to Kevin. Harlan's gonna
join us at five. Talkback Mike is open. Oh boy,
people are sounding off big time. We'll get to those
next on ninety three three KJRFM.
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exited k America Park and they are on their way.
I'll be totally honest with you to get absolutely blitched
somewhere in downtown Detroit, and there are a lot of
places to go to do that. You've been there, right,
(22:24):
to k America Ford Field. You were there with me
for the Super Bowl, Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
That's the time I was one time. No, that's not true,
because you were there with me for the Final four,
Final four. That's right, Michigan State when we saw Plexico
Buris and asked him which Leggy shot himself in at
the team hotel.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
That's right, You're exactly right.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
But that's a great area, ca America Park, Ford Field,
right there next to each other, awesome bars, all that stuff.
So shout out Everett fits you real quick, because Everett
and I had a little steak dinner wager on the
Mariner Tiger series. And he is the one knucklehead friend
of mine that is not talking smack on my phone.
I actually had a guy who you know series exactly,
(23:02):
but I had a guy, and this guy's a Mariner fan, right,
who was the most like you don't like negative people,
you know when the doomsday people. This guy is the
most negative son of a bitch walk in the face
of the earth.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
The ms could be up nine to nothing in the
eighth inning and the Tigers get a garbage run.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Well, here we go. I have friends like that.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
And I told this dude, I said, dude, I love you,
but I got a mute you until the playoffs are over.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I'll talk to you when the season ends, see you later.
I just couldn't take it, man.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
I just I can't do it. I've got friends like that,
I've got family members like that. During Seahawks games, they
will only text me, and they'll text me non stop
as long as something bad is happening, right as soon
as something as good as happening, you crickets, you won't
hear anything. But it's almost The Seahawks game was a
perfect example. I got nothing but negative texts all first
(23:53):
half long. Didn't hear from him any time till after
the game. Wow, we blew it, Like geez, where were you?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
We scoring five?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
It's almost okay if it's on a text thread and
there's like twenty dudes that are all just going back
and forth.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
But if it's that one guy, just that one guy.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Like you ever see a movie A League of their
Own when there's the little fat kid running up and
down the aisle all the bus just pissing everybody off.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
And you want to punch him in the face, but
you can't. Just a candidate.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
That's that's that guy that I had to mute today
on my on my phone, so at least you warned him.
I did like this said, I'm sorry, man, I love you,
but I'll talk to you in the years over see
you later, and that that might be Saturday. By the way,
if this thing doesn't go the way we want, we
want it to go on Friday.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
But thanks to Boar's Head.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
By the way, they brought some sandwiches down here to
the studio earlier today, and they were gracious enough to
leave some of refrigerator for us. Maybe the best thing
about today is the bors Head sandwich. I am stress
eating beyond belief and I have been doing it for
the last two hours. Well anything I can get my
hands on. I am going through people's desk drawers at
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work to see if I can find something to snack on.
And you you know what, it's gonna be even worse tonight.
Fat Softy is coming back for a couple of days.
I may show up at the U pregame show Friday
Dick at two o'clock.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Weighing two hundred and ninety pounds.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Seriously, so Wednesday night i'd planned, you know, Wednesday night.
I'm not going to have a cocktail night. I'm having
a cocktail. I'm having a cocktail the night baby too.
I mean it's and you know we have we have
a poll that you put out that that is interesting speaking.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yes, is there an update? Yes, we need an updated poll,
and this is really one I could answer.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
I would like to answer both to but there's no
weasel option.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
What was my question?
Speaker 5 (25:37):
I forgot?
Speaker 1 (25:37):
So how do we feel about game five?
Speaker 6 (25:40):
And your two options are confident or scared bleepless.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I am incredibly both for game number five, But you can't.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
I can't maybe scared in confident because you know I'm
the snow globe. I voted confident, but I am only
a twenty eight percent minority. Seventy two percent is scared bleep.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
I think I think this guy's falling tremendously. I think
that's gonna be the attitude from I'm not saying I
feel like that.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Well, I kind of do, but I think.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Sports well, I mean, but but look at Detroit fans.
Look at the way that actually gave up. You don't
think they thought this guy was falling this morning? Did
you see the stands? There was nobody there. I looked
on venue kings before the game. Tickets were like twelve
bucks to get in the door.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
Can we never hear from another East Coast slash Midwest
fan that they're hardcore and we're soft here on the
West Coast. You didn't show up for your team in
the playoffs, Well, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
We got some talkbacks to get who get you here
on the iHeartRadio app. It really is the best way
to get ahold of us. You can just leave us
a message, man, leave a message. I can't remember the
last time I left a voicemail for somebody. I haven't
done that in decades. I'll just text somebody. First of all,
I don't got the patience to leave a voicemail. And
then second of all, if I want to get you
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a note, I think the quickest way to get that
to somebody is just to send you a text, No question, right.
I mean have voicemails months old, and I have not
heard who the hell leaves voicemails anymore. But it's the
best way to get ahold of us, best way to
get your butt on the radio station. So let's get
to the talk back. Mike anders I hope you had
the button out and get some reaction to the Mariner's
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nine to three loss to the Tigers today.
Speaker 7 (27:21):
I gotta tell you, the people that are absolutely losing
their minds right now are the same ones who said
that the series was over after Game one. Does it suck, yes,
but holy smoke, Seattle, collect yourselves, pull up your big
boy pants, and go be scooble at home. Come on,
take a fricking breath.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, take a breath. I love that. That is my
attitude of the time.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
Like it's just I'm sitting there watching the Husky game down,
tweet it up and going, you know, if we can
just get a stop here and a touchdown, Like that's
how I watch game.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Well, that's why they call you the snow globe. I mean,
I mean, let me ask you a question. What would
the Husky score have had to be on Saturday before
you just said we're done?
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Four touchdowns?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Okay, exactly, So don't act like you're some eternal optimist.
I mean, there is a point where they can get
to where even you say the hell with it.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
You start packing up lots.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Of fans that when they go down by a touchdown,
the game is over.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Well.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
But here's the thing though, and you and you mentioned
this earlier with Chuck and Buck and I wanted to
jump in, but we couldn't because we ran out of time.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
You said that the Mariners are the better team.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
I agree over the course of one hundred and sixty
two games, the Mariners are a better baseball team as
they're built today than Detroit. But are they the better
team Friday because Scooball's pitching for the Tigers. I think
it's I don't think they are. I think it's I
think it's maybe fifty two forty eight Detroit, if not
maybe a little bit more special consider momentum exactly.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
So I don't think.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I mean, we can't look at it from a standpoint
of who's got the better roster, because the roster doesn't
matter as much when Tarik's Scuball is on the freaking mound.
Like imagine if you had a soccer game, for example,
you call it football. By the way, there was a
soccer game and the whole game was penalty kicks, the
entire thing, and the one penalty kick you pick one
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guy per side. And they had this guy who was
unbeatable goaltender amazing. I mean, you can neutralize that stuff.
And I, Dick, I do think over all the course
of the year, the Mariners are the better team. They
do have the better roster. If they played one hundred
and sixty games against the Tigers, maybe they win ninety
five of them, whatever, But are they the better team?
Friday and Ers when Tarrek Scuball is on the mound
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for Detroit.
Speaker 8 (29:40):
I think, if you just think of our starter versus
their starter, ion lineup versus our lineup. No, but I
like the idea, and I actually think the opposite of Chuck,
I would start Louise Castillo in this game.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I would too, I said the same thing.
Speaker 8 (29:52):
However, far he goes yes, and you have as soon
as he has any sort of strike, you go to
George Kirby.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
We saw it, George, he did in the playoffs. So
let's let's go back to the talk back. Here's number two, Dan, what.
Speaker 9 (30:05):
Are you doing pulling your starters so dang early in
all these games. Your bullpen is now burnt out. They've
seen spire for freaking four of five games.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 9 (30:19):
Please send Kirby out in game five and let him
go seven and shut this dang team down and go
get us in the ALCS.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Okay, so Miller went fifty five over four and a third.
And I think if you would have told me this
morning that we wake up in the fifth inning and
the Tigers have a goose egg on the board when
the fifth inning starts, I would have said, absa frecolutely
sign me up. So kudos to Bryce Miller. I think
he gave you as your fifth starter who's not even
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supposed to be pitching in this series because Brian wu
got hurt.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
I think he gave you everything you.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Wanted to get out of him, right, And if you
can't rely on your best arms in the bullpen to
get it done, then what the hell can you were
like on?
Speaker 8 (31:00):
Right?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
And I assume when the guy said four out of
five games, he's assuming Spire pitches again Friday, because he's
pitched in three games of the last four.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Will he'll right at least? But but guys, here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Don't you think after the RBI was sort of double
by Dingler, is that right that drove in the first
run off of Bryce Miller.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
If they left Bryce Miller.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
In there and he got destroyed by the Tigers, offense.
Don't you think we're taking texts and talkbacks from people saying,
why the hell didn't you go to your best reliever
in game Spire and bizarre to what the hell?
Speaker 5 (31:32):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Either way, I think Dan Wilson's getting on. There's no way.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
And that's why I mean, I gotta find I gotta
find something real, tangible. If I'm going to criticize Dan
Wilson in these situations and I don't find anything tangible today.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I really don't.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
You can criticize him for not starting Gilbert in game one.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I mean, we might be done with this series if
you start Gilbert in game one.
Speaker 6 (31:51):
But what were we saying, guys at the trade after
the trade deadline?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
As as as happy as we were.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
One more reliever that can get left handers out, That's
what we were saying after the trade.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Deadline, John, I mean, why do you think we were
pissed off at the deadline? Why do you think we
were mad at the deadline? And we I mean we
all said that that they got to get one more reliever,
and they they did. Guys, Look, who knows, Maybe they
win Friday and we can move on and forget it.
But the story is the story right where we're living
in the moment here? Okay, that they did nothing of
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significance at the trade deadline to improve their bullpen nothing
I mean because.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
I thought Caleb Ferguson was going to be a guy
that could get a couple left.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
But in the end it just did not work out
with this guy. All right, what's next on the talk back?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Ends?
Speaker 5 (32:41):
Go ahead?
Speaker 1 (32:42):
We got one more than they got a.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Right, all right?
Speaker 10 (32:46):
Dan Wilson was out coached again.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
He has no feel for the game.
Speaker 10 (32:50):
He reminds me of Dick's uncle, Scott Service.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
No feel for the game.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Yeah, no feeling.
Speaker 10 (32:55):
Game one should have brought Spire and we lost. Bryce
getting pulled was the right movie. But when Spier didn't
have it, why did he go back out there to
face Riley Green? Also, can Zone has hit lefties very
very well. We pull him for Garver and then switch
Garver for Luke Rayley.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
For the rest of the game. Yeah, awful moves.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
The righty lefty thing.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Is a joke.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Well, I'll tell you what. Aj Hinch had Dan Wilson's
number though. With that, is it Jami Jones? Is that
how you say his first name? Got like a nine
to seventy ops versus lefties. So when Wilson went to Spire,
aj Is like, here counter this, so ob and bang
he owned him.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I'm kind of surprised. Spire came back out though for
the next thinging, Yeah, I'm a lefty, but my god,
he was awful in the inning before.
Speaker 8 (33:36):
I mean, would you rather have Terred Ferguson, No, I'd
rather have Gabe Spier.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
I'd rather go down swinging with my best players. End
a story. By the way, we should get Scott Servis
on the ear and ask him for his thoughts. You
think Scott Servis was watching that game somewhere today, going, yeah,
he's rooting against the Mountains. You think he's big, Yeah,
you think he's better. Can you do you have his number?
By the way, service, can you you do? Can you
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call him and see if he'll come on the air
and be an analyst for us for the rest of
the way. Scott, would you join us on the air
the rest.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
Of the way? That's a question?
Speaker 1 (34:08):
All right? Four two, we're gonna go back to the clubhouse.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
More reaction from the Mariners loss to the Tigers, and
then we're gonna talk some football. Kevin Harlan at five
on ninety three to three KJR FM.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
From the R and R Foundation Specialist broadcast Studio. Now
back to SOFTI and Dick on your home for the Huskies,
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Speaker 1 (34:40):
All right, a couple of folks I want to thank.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
First of all, Kevin Harlan will join us, coming up
at five o'clock today. Two hours of unfiltered emotional baseball
reaction after a nine to three Let's face it, guy's
kind of an ass kicking when it was all said
and done by the Tigers today at America Parking, Detroit.
The if you're just tuning in right now, jumped out
to a three to nothing lead, and then all hell
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broke loose in the fifth inning. The Tigers scored nine unanswered,
nine unanswered and won the game nine to three.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
So Game five is going to be in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
It'll be at one forty if the Yankees win tonight,
five oh eight if the Blue Jays win today, and
right now, the Blue Jays are leading the Yankees one
nothing in the middle of the third, the Cubs are
up in the Brewers four to three as Milwaukee looks
to close out Chicago after seven, and the Phillies and
Dodgers coming up at six oh eight tonight. Petros Papadacus,
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by the way, will join us for a short version
at about six twenty eight tonight.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Kevin Harlan coming up at five.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
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like my pick? I did like your pick Raiders points
against the Titans. Did you like our pick yesterday? By
the way, did you enjoy that one?
Speaker 1 (36:07):
I did not. That's a guaranteed winner, the one that.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
We made yesterday when we were all in a panic
mode man before the game, trying to sneak it in.
But cal Raleigh uh in the clubhouse. After this game today,
let's hear from the captain. Let's hear from the leader
of this baseball team on how they rally and get
a win in Game five on Friday.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Here's the hopeful MVP.
Speaker 11 (36:33):
It makes some really good thanks good pitches and you really,
I mean you you've done one hard hit too, Dangler.
Let's score the run and you know, let's yeah, really
the mistake.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Cal what are the questions?
Speaker 11 (36:49):
Get any game like this, but you guys get their community,
they come back.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
The crowd gets back into it's just all the.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Ups and downs to today.
Speaker 11 (36:58):
Oh yeah, I mean took the lead and couldn't hold it.
So it's unfortunate, but you know, flush it.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
We'll go up to that.
Speaker 11 (37:05):
Yeah, well Friday, so it's best and so good. You see,
fit just a familiar over I mean yeah, I mean
but it goes both ways. So you know they've been
throwing the ball good all year. You know, I uh,
I have confidence if I bounced back on five, for sure.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
It's being bouncing that we've seen you guys do that
so many times this year.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
And you know, obviously it's not maybe in the media APNA.
Speaker 9 (37:28):
That is certainly the mindset and move board that we've
seen you guys do this before.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
What does it take?
Speaker 1 (37:32):
What is it special about this team that is allowed
you to do that so much this season.
Speaker 11 (37:35):
Yeah, I mean, you know, we've got a lot of
resiliency in this club, and you know, I have confidence
to the guys that we're gonna go out and play
play good baseball. It's gonna be tough, so we're up
for the challenge. And that's such a guest on there.
Face good pitching and face good teams, and there's gonna
be challenges about the road, and you know we're up
for for Friday. Got to store your name, whether it
be Kirby or in the least, how much we're both
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a little bit of both, and how much competition those
two around now, Yeah, I mean we have what's confidence
in all of our guys. So you know, they both
thought through the ball really well the first time. So
those Game five, if you think it happen, you know,
one game series, So go out there, you know, give
it your best go and you know from there that's
all you can do.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
So ky Rolly, he's seven for sixteen in this series,
so I think he's doing good at the plate. There's
no doubt about it. And I was just thinking about
this in my little brain here, Dick, that if they
can somehow, somehow find a way to win on Friday
against Trek Scoble. What an unbelievable injection of energy and
momentum that would give this baseball team to survive a
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Game five elimination against Detroit and then going to Toronto
coming back home Sunday to take on the Yankees. It
kind of I mean, right, look, right now, there's no
middle ground. Right Either A, we're going to bed Friday
night and we're bummed out beyond belief and we're pissed
off beyond belief and we're heartbroken beyond belief. Or we're
ready to jump through a freaking wall for this baseball team.
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Either way, this is playoff baseball. There's no middle ground here.
I mean, just think about the emotions you had last night.
I couldn't even sleep last night thinking about this. This morning,
I'm pacing around the house waiting for twelve oh eight
to start. These swing in emotions from one game to
the next, one serious to the next. Is why the
baseball playoffs are so freaking.
Speaker 6 (39:22):
Going well on the swinging momentum too, And I think
I understand what Anders saying, Hey, Detroit's got the momentum
going in Game five. You're right Troit's got the momentum
going into a game five. But the Mariners had all
the momentum in the world when they were up three
to ninf thing, and they still gave up nine runs
in a row. So just because there's momentum, that doesn't
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necessarily mean that the team that's gonna win the game.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
No doubt.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
And you can also lose it and you can also
get it back very quickly. I mean, look at the Tigers,
like you just study yourself, by the way, and the Yankees,
Yankees hit nikies just tied the game, Ryan McMahon, they
got from Colorado. It's one, one, bottom three. But this
is a Tiger baseball team that since what is the
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record I'm going back to the end of the year.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
There, since the we swept him.
Speaker 6 (40:12):
Honestly, here's here's what they are in the second since
the All Star breaks, all right, going, they were twenty
eight and thirty seven right on the season. They were
twelve games worse than the Seattle Mariners since the All
Star Break.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah, and that's what they are. That's what they've been.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
But again, if the one game was Casey Meis or
Jack Flaherty, it would just feel so different. But the
one game is maybe the best pitcher in baseball who
you now have to beat for a fourth time in
a season. This is I don't think there's anything wrong
with admitting this is a daunting task for them on Friday, well,
to get this done, huge, huge, daunting tasks.
Speaker 6 (40:50):
Vegas has them as Detroit minus one thirty two Seattle
plus one on the favor They're slightly favored in game
number five.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
Well, let's do this, Kevin Harlan, We're gonna wave from
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Speaker 3 (00:23):
All right, we're back, Sofia and Dick checking Buck in
Detroit joining us in a matter of seconds. Update from
the Major League Baseball Scoreboard. Cubs with the Brewers four two,
bottom five, Milwaukee looking for the series win against the Cubbies,
left to come from behind to pull that one off.
Blue Jay's Yankees at four to eight, Phillies Dodgers at
six oh eight. Mariners lose nine to three in Detroit.
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There will be a game five. There will be a
tomorrow night. If you're a Tiger fan, we don't want
to hear that as Mariner fans, but Tiger fans did.
If the Blue Jays win, the game is at five oweight.
If the Yankees win, the game is at one forty
on Friday. Either way at t Mobile Park. We know
Trek Scuba will pitch for the Tigers. We don't know
yet at this moment who will start for the Mariners.
But let's go back to Camerica Park, Detroit, rock City,
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where the stadium wasn't exactly rocking until the Mariner bullpen
came in that was booing in the fifth inning and
just completely melted down. Chuck Powell, Bucky Jacobson rejoin us
courtesy of these Laquami casino from Detroit, and gentlemen, Chuck
will start with you because we haven't gotten your thoughts yet.
First of all, great stuff from the clubhouse, my man,
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and then number two, your thoughts, dude, on what we
just saw over three hours in Detroit.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
I saw a baseball team that was given a standing
eight count, got up at seven and a half seconds,
what you know, you know, kind of staggered from the corner.
The referee checked the Tiger's eyes, said I think they're
good to go go ahead and touch gloves and let's
start fighting again. And then all of a sudden, like
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a six feet pound of smelling salts, Gabe Spire came
into the game, didn't have his stuff, and they just
woke up. I mean, this place was dead this city.
Last night, Bucky and I went out on the town
and every Tiger fan that we talked to, now they're
very nice people. As it turns out, every person that
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we talked to is like, it's over you guys won.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Yeah, we're not.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Coming back from this. And so that was very representative.
In the thousands of empty seats that the game started with,
it was representative. And the booing that took place of
the Tigers from the third through the fourth innings down
three to nothing, and then all of a sudden, like magic,
the team woke up and Gabe Spire and Eduard Bizardo
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could not miss a bat and the next thing you know,
we're talking about pinning our hopes on a Game five
in Seattle against maybe the best left handed pitcher in
the galaxy.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Let's talk about Spire.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
It seemed like if you had a hole in the
middle of the plate the size of a golf hole.
I mean, Spire put the bay through that hole about
nine different times. I mean, everything was middle middle was
Was it fatigue? Is Is that what caused the lack
of command? Because I can't imagine he was aiming for
the middle to strike zone every pitch well.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I can't imagine he's fatigue, not at this time of
the year. He didn't pitch yesterday. I just think he
had an off day. And that's the way he acted
downstairs in the clubhouse. It just heard his scrum with
the media, and he did not seem downtrodden. He just
kind of seemed a matter of fact, I didn't have
it today. He was two three miles per hour below
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his velocity. You're right, he was just throwing everything over
the heart of the plate. He just didn't have it,
and he picked a terrible time not to have it.
And I said at the beginning of the series, I
took a really odd person to name as the guy
that might be the key to this entire series, and
Gabe Spire has been it in many, many spectacular ways.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
The fact that he wasn't.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Used in time in game number one might have been
the reason that we lost that game.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
The fact that he was used.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
In time in game number two might be the reason
why the Mariners won that game. And then the fact
that he just was off his game today might be
the reason that the Mariners lost this game. So Gabe
Spiers hot and cold strange series continues, and right now
we're all even at two games apiece, with that Game
five staaring us in the face.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Well, Bucky's with us as well from Detroit and Bucky
wanting your way in here. Dick and I were talking
off the ear about who's got the pressure on them,
and both of us agree it's on the Mariners. You know,
a three to nothing lead in the fifth inning of
Game four is probably a game that you should have
won and you couldn't get it done because your bullpen
couldn't finish the job. So talk about the emotions going
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into game five. I mean, is it a good thing
the Mariners have a day off? Would you rather have
him right back out there tomorrow? Good thing they're playing
at home. Bad thing they're playing at home. Give me
all the intangibles you think to come along with game
five now from a Seattle perspective, But.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Yeah, I mean I think I would. I think the
pressure probably is back on the Marriagers. But it's not
like there's no pressure on them. They don't get, you know,
to start with a half a run or anything like that,
simply because they forced the game five. But you know,
the two objectives were one team would say Hey, let's
let's you know, feel the deal here. The other team
was saying, hey, let's force the game five. They accomplish
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their mission. Now they still have to go out there
and figure out a way to get it done in Seattle,
and we've kind of had there. We've had just about
airbody's number as of late. In Seattle. We're going to
get to throw a good picture. They're going to get
to throw a better picture now on any given day,
I don't care who it is. You can outdue a
guy that's gonna win the cy Young. If if it
was as easy as just throwing the better guy out
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there that has shown it that more often than not
he's going to win, then we would just already concede.
Right you just say, well, more often than not, you're
guys gonna win. Well, that's just not the way that
it goes. So there's pressure. But I think that this
team kind of like playing it those pressure situations. I
think that they, for whatever reason, when when they get
a little bit too comfortable, things don't necessarily go their way.
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I mean, one thing I'll just add on this, the
game's fire thing. I think that nowadays because I've heard
multiple people say it. I know Munhos does it. I
think Spire Aspire does it. I think a lot of guys,
especially hard throwing relievers, I think a lot of time
they try to throw it right down the middle and
then if it misses to a corner, still be it.
There's been a ton of times that I watch baseball,
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whether it's Mariners or anybody else, and I see a
lot of pitches right down the middle. Well, they get
away with it with plus velocity. But there's certain days,
especially when you get into the playoffs, where you need
to sometimes be thrown to one half of the plate
and missing off the plate in or off the plate away,
and uh Yeahspire just didn't have it today. But you know,
I think all these guys basically will have plushed this
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on the flight back and it'll be immediately moving on
to the next thing, studying tape, studying things that you're
going to do, because you got to bring your a
game when you're going to have Trek Scrugel on the
ball up against you.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
Yes, often I agree that the pressures is on Seattle.
I think almost though it feels like it's going to
be heavier on the fan base more than it will
be on the players, and Bucky maybe you can speak
to that. Does the pressure present itself on the players
from the first inning on or does it start to
present itself as soon as one team gets ahead of
the other in a deciding game, and then the pressures
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on the shoulders of the team that's down one nothing
or two nothing.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Yeah, I think that. I think that we as fans
most certainly feel it differently than they do, you know.
I mean, the pressure of being on the team and
having to go out there and actually perform is it's
a different kind of pressure when you don't get to
do anything to contribute to the win. Well, you obviously
don't have the pressure of failing in front of forty
fifty thousand people either, But I think the pressure when
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you get out there is that this is what you
should be hoping for. Most of these guys they want
to be in a pressure situation. That's part of what
their mental makeup is. That's why they've made it to
the level they've made it at. I mean, I already
watched a video of the pressor with Eric Spougle, and
that's what he said. He goes, this is competition, this
is what you play for. Us for Game five or
Game sevens when all the marbles we all did it
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playing whippleball in the backyard, right you all did? Oh,
bases are loaded, We're down by three, bottom of the
nineteen inning, Game seven of the World Series. You pretend
to be in that situation. The difference is we, as fans,
myself included, never got to actually experience that. These guys
are going to get to experience it. So if you will,
you probably didn't make it to the big leagues. If
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you're a guy that doesn't want to be in that situation,
you're probably not one of these. So it basically comes
down to all of the guys on both teams are
going to be want to be in that position. The
difference is who's going to actually take advantage of it?
And you're gonna let that opportunity.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Chuck pol Bucky Jacobson with us from Detroit Baseball's Best
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calls talkbacks as well. In the next maybe twenty five
thirty minutes or so on the radio show, I'll let
you invake your spleen a bit here on the program.
But Chuck, you mentioned on social media on your Twitter
account that you thought it was the right move to
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pull Bryce.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Miller in the bottom of the fifth inning.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
They leave him in, he gives up the double the
Dingler for the first run of the game for the Tigers,
and then all hell breaks loose after that. Aj Hinch
comes in and he brings a pinch hitter Jami Jones
off the bench to face Spire and he ties it
up at three to three. So tell me in the
moment and tell me hindsight, because that's a major talking
point from some fans and media. Did Wilson make the
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right move pulling Bryce Miller when he did?
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Yeah? He did.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I mean, you were going into this game, I'm pretty
much going to manage it like a decisive game. You
had a chance to kind of manage it like two
game fives with the day off in between, and so
I figured that Bryce was going to have a short leash.
I figured it could have even been shorter than what
it was. I mean, he was good, he was really good.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
He stepped up.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
I'm not surprised. I mean, I call him Clint Eastwood.
His heart rate just never climbs so I figured he
was going to be good, But I also figured that
Dan was going to have a quick hook. And look,
everybody's everybody is surprised that Gabe Spire didn't have it.
Gabe Spier was looking like the best reliever in this
entire series, aj Hinch, I guarantee you was surprised that
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Gabe Spire didn't have it here tonight. My goodness, he
threw arguably his best reliever in the third inning to
get out of the Bas's loaded jam. That's how desperate
he was to stay in the game at that point.
He knew what was coming. He knew Bryce was gonna
get pulled, and he was going to have to face
this Mariner's bullpen for four or five innings. And so
the fact that Gabe didn't have it, I don't think
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Dan Wilson can be blamed for not having that kind
of foresight. The fact that Bizardo didn't have it, I
don't think Dan Wilson can be blamed for not having
that kind of foresight. Bizardo's been outstanding all season long,
but today those two guys couldn't get a Tiger hitter
out and that's why we lost the game. And that's
why we're heading back with this thing undecided. But I
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don't think you can put this. I mean, look, I've
been critical of Dan's decisions a lot this year, and
I thought he was going to struggle with the speed
of the postseason. But I went into this thinking that
he was going to have a quick hook on Bryce Miller.
So when he did pull him out of the game,
I don't think that it was too early at all.
I thought it was right on time, if not a
bat or too late.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Dan has not named the starter yet for Game number five.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
Chuck.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
We talked to Buck about this earlier. Give us your
best case scenario for Dan.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
Do you go with the Rock who pitched on Sunday
eighty five pitches? Do you go with Kirby who threw
ninety four on Saturday? And furthermore, how available is Logan
Gilbert after throwing eighty five pitches on Tuesday, maybe coming
out of the pen.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
I wouldn't think that he is available. I just I mean,
they have these guys on such strict schedules and routines.
Usually when that gets disrupted, we see the worst versions
of them. George is going to be on full rest.
I would imagine he is going to be the starter.
(12:10):
But again, you're looking at a bullpen game. Again, I
would imagine in another quick hook that people can be
nervous about whether or not Dan makes that decision at
the right time. I think Castillo certainly is available if
they feel he's he is will accept the role of
out of the bullpen. It's just not something that he's
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done a lot. I would imagine that he is certainly available.
I guarantee you he'll answer the bell. Whether or not
he's going to be effective, we have no idea, We've
never seen it, but I think it will ultimately end
up being George Kirby. There's a reason why they went
with him in game one. They are very confident with
his with his stuff, his ability to rise to an occasion.
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I really do wish we had a fully rested Logan Gilbert.
I wish he would have started game one, but that
that certainly can be erase. So I would imagine Logan
Gilbert is not available, but I would imagine everybody else
not named Logan Gilbert or Bryce Miller would be Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I agree with your point about you know, kind of
a fish out of water. Sometimes we don't see you know,
a guy's best. I mean, this isn't ninety five anymore,
where Randy Johnson can throw one hundred and seventeen pitches
on a Tuesday and then come in two days later
out of the bullpen and give up a lead, but
Edgar Martinez saves his ass. Right, So those days are over.
(13:29):
But Bucky, you know, just just go back and talk
a little bit more about about Friday, because I feel
like now that's what should be discussed, right, Like today
was a huge bummer.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
It was a massive letdown.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
But you got to find a way to rally the
game plan that these guys have had against scooball the
first three times. He's zero and two with a four
point five eight ERA in three starts against the Mariners.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Do you change anything?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Do you take anything from the previous three game plans
that you want to bring with you again Friday?
Speaker 5 (14:00):
I mean, I'd think first and foremost. You know, you
could hear it in the interview that Chuck got from
Logan or yeah, from Gilbert, I mean that it didn't
sound like he's overly worried. I mean, ultimately, yeah, you
get to today, and like, boy, if you could pull
out two wins on the road, then you're feeling pretty good.
But really, I think Detroit when they were flying back
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here after winning one of two on the road, they
kind of feel like they stole back. They stole home
field advantage, right, you come to their place and split
with them, You did the exact same thing. And now
it just comes down one game. You are going against
one of the best pitchers on the planet, and yet
they've answered this call three different times this season. Now,
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is it one of those things I hear all the
time it's tough to be the team three times in
one season. Well, it's probably tough to be the starter
four times one season. But there's also things like streets.
There's also things like just there's a confidence that comes
in if all of a sudden, you're facing somebody you
know you can't make mistakes against, well maybe you're in
a little bit more so. There's a lot of things
that are going in the favor of the Mariners, while
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on the flip side of it, there's gonna be another
plane pull of guys that feel like everything is going
in their direction. They just won, they just forced the
game five, and they got the ace going. Well, I mean,
we got we're gonna have whether they end up going
with George Kirby or they go with Luis Castillo, we're
gonna feel like we have an ace, and we're gonna
feel like we gotta have an ace up a sleeve
that we can pull a hook and bring another guy
in as quick as you kind of feel like you
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need that. I don't feel like they have that same
luxury where they're sitting there thinking with boy, if these
guys get to our ace, that's fine. We got another
one just waiting in the wings. So that is there's
there's different ways of looking at it, whether you can
think of it an advantage or not really boiled down
to go up, be ready. I think these boys by
the time they land in Seattle are gonna be pumped
about playing this game in Seattle on Friday.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Well, but what's frustrating?
Speaker 6 (15:50):
And then actually I'm a little bit optimistic about the
same thought.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
And here's the thought.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
It's the thought that that Chuck has been professing for
for days and I've totally agreed with We're just a
better baseball team than Detroit is. And so what's frustrating
is we even had to get the game five against
these Slubs. But then what's optimistic about it is yeh,
Scoople's going game five, what I believe were the better
baseball team than Detroit overall, so we should win the game.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Yeah, I meanly would add on to that.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
I mean, how well this team plays at home, how
much they're already talking about looking forward to playing in
front of that crowd. I asked Logan about it, and
he's what his expectation was, and he just said loud.
So I think that this is a team that I mean,
homefield advantage isn't a great advantage in the sport of baseball.
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It typically, you know, doesn't have the impact it can't
have in other sports, but I do believe that it
is impactful for this baseball team. Now, Detroit takes the momentum,
and they certainly on paper, got the better starting pitcher,
but we've already beaten him three times this year. So
we go to see, Yah, we get loud, we sell
the place out, and see if that isn't worth a
(17:04):
half a run? Uh see if that isn't worth the
difference in a tight ball game that we're all expecting
to see go down Friday at home?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Uh Chuck pow Bucky Jacobson. Who's the hero gonna be?
Tell us tell us on on on Saturday morning when
we wake up and the Mariners have one. I think
you tweeted this out, Chuck, that you expected the Tigers
bottom of the order right to maybe do some damage
potentially Uh in a in a in a game like this. Uh,
you had some foresight there. Who's the hero gonna be
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if the m's pull this off? Who's the Who's the
superman for us?
Speaker 7 (17:41):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (17:41):
I think it might end up being the bullpen? And
you know, uh, look, it's been the year of Col,
so you know I am vision maybe uh to two
tie late and maybe Col walks it off in the
bottom of the night. How about that.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah for a story.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
But in order to keep it to too, I mean,
I think SCO's gonna Scoobol's gonna go seven innings, I
would imagine, and maybe even more than that. So you're
gonna have to work this combination of pitchers perfectly if
you're Dan Wilson, and then every everybody's gotta show up.
I mean I thought he'd worked it well today, but
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not everybody showed up out of the bullpen, So I
wouldn't be surprised if Andre's Munnos doesn't like suck it
up for six outs, Devin outs. Matt Brash, who hasn't
really pitched more than an inning all year long, might
have to go an inning plus uh in this game.
So we might see some heroes out of the bullpen
(18:40):
that end up deciding it and having to go several
innings versus a tigers pin that may only have to
go one or two on Friday. So maybe the heroes
come out of the bullpen just as they were the
goats here today.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Well that's the thing, Bucky, is that with this game five,
I mean this is, you know, the first real elimination game.
Obviously the M's have played all year and Detroit, We're
gonna see some weird stuff on Friday that you never
would see in a regular season game. So what about you,
who's your pick to click for the game on Friday.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
I think this is the same where you've got to
figure out, you've got to figure out who's gonna want
it more, right, and it's it's you could be one
through nine, But I think they're throwing their best. The
bust player on their team is going to be towing
the rubber and wearing back and throwing a hundred pitches
trying to see if you can touch them. It's time
for the most talented person on the field, period, and
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Julu Rodrigez to step up. I watched Julio Rodriguez get
multiple fastballs blown by him by Scoobo, and understandably so
he just joins the crowd of everybody else in MLB.
But this is a situation where it's game five, You're
gonna have a packed house, it's winner go home. Hulu
Rodriguez is the most emotional player on the team, and
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when I mean that, he's the type of guy that
feeds off of that the most. That's why he's given
the no flyes Owe, That's why he plays the way
that he plays. This is a situation and that he
needs to stump up and say you're not beating me
with one of those and if he can, he can
be the guy like war Ape Long, we're running into
a couple of mistakes. Yeah, now you can get into
the situation where you can you can rear back and
(20:11):
lean on your Matt Brashes and your monos to hopefully
lock something down.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
All right, we got more audio to get to you
in the clubhouse. We're gonna get to some talkbacks as well. Uh,
you guys, go grab a pizza or something, and maybe
a couple of pictures of beer because you you deserve it.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
I assume that you're on a flight back tonight tomorrow.
What's the plan for you guys?
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Now, we do one more show tomorrow morning show here
from Detroit tomorrow, and then afterwards we'll get on the plane,
get back Thursday night, roll it right back over to
a Friday morning show, and then head to the Ballyard
for Game number five. So yeah, it's uh, it's been
quite an adventure so far. Uh, mostly fun. We've had
a great time, but we're obviously that's very disappointing to
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be not coming home with her feet up on the
desk and just thinking about having a weekend off before
we get started, just waiting for our opponent. But nevertheless,
game five those are the most memorable ones, right, So
let's just envision Cal walking off Will Vest with a
two run homer in the bottom of the ninth Friday.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
It's the first time the Mariners have played a Game
five since two thousand and one, when they played the
Indians and they won at home with Jamie Moyer on
the mound twenty four years ago.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
So let's hope it goes the same way. Guys. All right, guys,
great stuff, and we'll see when you get back home.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Thanks, guys, All right, man later, guys.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
All right, Chucking Buck, we're gonna break. We got more
audio from the clubhouse to get to Kevin. Harlan's gonna
join us at five. Talkback Mike is open. Oh boy,
people are sounding off big time. We'll get to those
next on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
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here's Chucking Bud. All right, Chuck and Buck have left
the building. People, They have left the building. They have
exited k America Park and they are on their way.
I'll be totally honest with you to get absolutely blitched
somewhere in downtown Detroit, and there are a lot of
places to go to do that. You've been there, right,
(22:24):
to k America Ford Field. You were there with me
for the Super Bowl, Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
That's the time I was one time. No, that's not true,
because you were there with me for the Final four,
Final four. That's right, Michigan State when we saw Plexico
Buris and asked him which Leggy shot himself in at
the team hotel.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
That's right, You're exactly right.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
But that's a great area, ca America Park, Ford Field,
right there next to each other, awesome bars, all that stuff.
So shout out Everett fits you real quick, because Everett
and I had a little steak dinner wager on the
Mariner Tiger series. And he is the one knucklehead friend
of mine that is not talking smack on my phone.
I actually had a guy who you know series exactly,
(23:02):
but I had a guy, and this guy's a Mariner fan, right,
who was the most like you don't like negative people,
you know when the doomsday people. This guy is the
most negative son of a bitch walk in the face
of the earth.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
The ms could be up nine to nothing in the
eighth inning and the Tigers get a garbage run.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Well, here we go. I have friends like that.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
And I told this dude, I said, dude, I love you,
but I got a mute you until the playoffs are over.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I'll talk to you when the season ends, see you later.
I just couldn't take it, man.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
I just I can't do it. I've got friends like that,
I've got family members like that. During Seahawks games, they
will only text me, and they'll text me non stop
as long as something bad is happening, right as soon
as something as good as happening, you crickets, you won't
hear anything. But it's almost The Seahawks game was a
perfect example. I got nothing but negative texts all first
(23:53):
half long. Didn't hear from him any time till after
the game. Wow, we blew it, Like geez, where were you?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
We scoring five?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
It's almost okay if it's on a text thread and
there's like twenty dudes that are all just going back
and forth.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
But if it's that one guy, just that one guy.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Like you ever see a movie A League of their
Own when there's the little fat kid running up and
down the aisle all the bus just pissing everybody off.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
And you want to punch him in the face, but
you can't. Just a candidate.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
That's that's that guy that I had to mute today
on my on my phone, so at least you warned him.
I did like this said, I'm sorry, man, I love you,
but I'll talk to you in the years over see
you later, and that that might be Saturday. By the way,
if this thing doesn't go the way we want, we
want it to go on Friday.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
But thanks to Boar's Head.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
By the way, they brought some sandwiches down here to
the studio earlier today, and they were gracious enough to
leave some of refrigerator for us. Maybe the best thing
about today is the bors Head sandwich. I am stress
eating beyond belief and I have been doing it for
the last two hours. Well anything I can get my
hands on. I am going through people's desk drawers at
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work to see if I can find something to snack on.
And you you know what, it's gonna be even worse tonight.
Fat Softy is coming back for a couple of days.
I may show up at the U pregame show Friday
Dick at two o'clock.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Weighing two hundred and ninety pounds.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Seriously, so Wednesday night i'd planned, you know, Wednesday night.
I'm not going to have a cocktail night. I'm having
a cocktail. I'm having a cocktail the night baby too.
I mean it's and you know we have we have
a poll that you put out that that is interesting speaking.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yes, is there an update? Yes, we need an updated poll,
and this is really one I could answer.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
I would like to answer both to but there's no
weasel option.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
What was my question?
Speaker 5 (25:37):
I forgot?
Speaker 1 (25:37):
So how do we feel about game five?
Speaker 6 (25:40):
And your two options are confident or scared bleepless.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I am incredibly both for game number five, But you can't.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
I can't maybe scared in confident because you know I'm
the snow globe. I voted confident, but I am only
a twenty eight percent minority. Seventy two percent is scared bleep.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
I think I think this guy's falling tremendously. I think
that's gonna be the attitude from I'm not saying I
feel like that.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Well, I kind of do, but I think.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Sports well, I mean, but but look at Detroit fans.
Look at the way that actually gave up. You don't
think they thought this guy was falling this morning? Did
you see the stands? There was nobody there. I looked
on venue kings before the game. Tickets were like twelve
bucks to get in the door.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
Can we never hear from another East Coast slash Midwest
fan that they're hardcore and we're soft here on the
West Coast. You didn't show up for your team in
the playoffs, Well, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
We got some talkbacks to get who get you here
on the iHeartRadio app. It really is the best way
to get ahold of us. You can just leave us
a message, man, leave a message. I can't remember the
last time I left a voicemail for somebody. I haven't
done that in decades. I'll just text somebody. First of all,
I don't got the patience to leave a voicemail. And
then second of all, if I want to get you
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a note, I think the quickest way to get that
to somebody is just to send you a text, No question, right.
I mean have voicemails months old, and I have not
heard who the hell leaves voicemails anymore. But it's the
best way to get ahold of us, best way to
get your butt on the radio station. So let's get
to the talk back. Mike anders I hope you had
the button out and get some reaction to the Mariner's
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nine to three loss to the Tigers today.
Speaker 7 (27:21):
I gotta tell you, the people that are absolutely losing
their minds right now are the same ones who said
that the series was over after Game one. Does it suck, yes,
but holy smoke, Seattle, collect yourselves, pull up your big
boy pants, and go be scooble at home. Come on,
take a fricking breath.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, take a breath. I love that. That is my
attitude of the time.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
Like it's just I'm sitting there watching the Husky game down,
tweet it up and going, you know, if we can
just get a stop here and a touchdown, Like that's
how I watch game.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Well, that's why they call you the snow globe. I mean,
I mean, let me ask you a question. What would
the Husky score have had to be on Saturday before
you just said we're done?
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Four touchdowns?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Okay, exactly, So don't act like you're some eternal optimist.
I mean, there is a point where they can get
to where even you say the hell with it.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
You start packing up lots.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Of fans that when they go down by a touchdown,
the game is over.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Well.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
But here's the thing though, and you and you mentioned
this earlier with Chuck and Buck and I wanted to
jump in, but we couldn't because we ran out of time.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
You said that the Mariners are the better team.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
I agree over the course of one hundred and sixty
two games, the Mariners are a better baseball team as
they're built today than Detroit. But are they the better
team Friday because Scooball's pitching for the Tigers. I think
it's I don't think they are. I think it's I
think it's maybe fifty two forty eight Detroit, if not
maybe a little bit more special consider momentum exactly.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
So I don't think.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I mean, we can't look at it from a standpoint
of who's got the better roster, because the roster doesn't
matter as much when Tarik's Scuball is on the freaking mound.
Like imagine if you had a soccer game, for example,
you call it football. By the way, there was a
soccer game and the whole game was penalty kicks, the
entire thing, and the one penalty kick you pick one
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guy per side. And they had this guy who was
unbeatable goaltender amazing. I mean, you can neutralize that stuff.
And I, Dick, I do think over all the course
of the year, the Mariners are the better team. They
do have the better roster. If they played one hundred
and sixty games against the Tigers, maybe they win ninety
five of them, whatever, But are they the better team?
Friday and Ers when Tarrek Scuball is on the mound
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for Detroit.
Speaker 8 (29:40):
I think, if you just think of our starter versus
their starter, ion lineup versus our lineup. No, but I
like the idea, and I actually think the opposite of Chuck,
I would start Louise Castillo in this game.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I would too, I said the same thing.
Speaker 8 (29:52):
However, far he goes yes, and you have as soon
as he has any sort of strike, you go to
George Kirby.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
We saw it, George, he did in the playoffs. So
let's let's go back to the talk back. Here's number two, Dan, what.
Speaker 9 (30:05):
Are you doing pulling your starters so dang early in
all these games. Your bullpen is now burnt out. They've
seen spire for freaking four of five games.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 9 (30:19):
Please send Kirby out in game five and let him
go seven and shut this dang team down and go
get us in the ALCS.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Okay, so Miller went fifty five over four and a third.
And I think if you would have told me this
morning that we wake up in the fifth inning and
the Tigers have a goose egg on the board when
the fifth inning starts, I would have said, absa frecolutely
sign me up. So kudos to Bryce Miller. I think
he gave you as your fifth starter who's not even
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supposed to be pitching in this series because Brian wu
got hurt.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
I think he gave you everything you.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Wanted to get out of him, right, And if you
can't rely on your best arms in the bullpen to
get it done, then what the hell can you were
like on?
Speaker 8 (31:00):
Right?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
And I assume when the guy said four out of
five games, he's assuming Spire pitches again Friday, because he's
pitched in three games of the last four.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Will he'll right at least? But but guys, here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Don't you think after the RBI was sort of double
by Dingler, is that right that drove in the first
run off of Bryce Miller.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
If they left Bryce Miller.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
In there and he got destroyed by the Tigers, offense.
Don't you think we're taking texts and talkbacks from people saying,
why the hell didn't you go to your best reliever
in game Spire and bizarre to what the hell?
Speaker 5 (31:32):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Either way, I think Dan Wilson's getting on. There's no way.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
And that's why I mean, I gotta find I gotta
find something real, tangible. If I'm going to criticize Dan
Wilson in these situations and I don't find anything tangible today.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I really don't.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
You can criticize him for not starting Gilbert in game one.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I mean, we might be done with this series if
you start Gilbert in game one.
Speaker 6 (31:51):
But what were we saying, guys at the trade after
the trade deadline?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
As as as happy as we were.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
One more reliever that can get left handers out, That's
what we were saying after the trade.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Deadline, John, I mean, why do you think we were
pissed off at the deadline? Why do you think we
were mad at the deadline? And we I mean we
all said that that they got to get one more reliever,
and they they did. Guys, Look, who knows, Maybe they
win Friday and we can move on and forget it.
But the story is the story right where we're living
in the moment here? Okay, that they did nothing of
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significance at the trade deadline to improve their bullpen nothing
I mean because.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
I thought Caleb Ferguson was going to be a guy
that could get a couple left.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
But in the end it just did not work out
with this guy. All right, what's next on the talk back?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Ends?
Speaker 5 (32:41):
Go ahead?
Speaker 1 (32:42):
We got one more than they got a.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Right, all right?
Speaker 10 (32:46):
Dan Wilson was out coached again.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
He has no feel for the game.
Speaker 10 (32:50):
He reminds me of Dick's uncle, Scott Service.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
No feel for the game.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Yeah, no feeling.
Speaker 10 (32:55):
Game one should have brought Spire and we lost. Bryce
getting pulled was the right movie. But when Spier didn't
have it, why did he go back out there to
face Riley Green? Also, can Zone has hit lefties very
very well. We pull him for Garver and then switch
Garver for Luke Rayley.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
For the rest of the game. Yeah, awful moves.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
The righty lefty thing.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Is a joke.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Well, I'll tell you what. Aj Hinch had Dan Wilson's
number though. With that, is it Jami Jones? Is that
how you say his first name? Got like a nine
to seventy ops versus lefties. So when Wilson went to Spire,
aj Is like, here counter this, so ob and bang
he owned him.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I'm kind of surprised. Spire came back out though for
the next thinging, Yeah, I'm a lefty, but my god,
he was awful in the inning before.
Speaker 8 (33:36):
I mean, would you rather have Terred Ferguson, No, I'd
rather have Gabe Spier.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
I'd rather go down swinging with my best players. End
a story. By the way, we should get Scott Servis
on the ear and ask him for his thoughts. You
think Scott Servis was watching that game somewhere today, going, yeah,
he's rooting against the Mountains. You think he's big, Yeah,
you think he's better. Can you do you have his number?
By the way, service, can you you do? Can you
(34:01):
call him and see if he'll come on the air
and be an analyst for us for the rest of
the way. Scott, would you join us on the air
the rest.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
Of the way? That's a question?
Speaker 1 (34:08):
All right? Four two, we're gonna go back to the clubhouse.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
More reaction from the Mariners loss to the Tigers, and
then we're gonna talk some football. Kevin Harlan at five
on ninety three to three KJR FM.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
From the R and R Foundation Specialist broadcast Studio. Now
back to SOFTI and Dick on your home for the Huskies,
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three kJ R FM.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
All right, a couple of folks I want to thank.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
First of all, Kevin Harlan will join us, coming up
at five o'clock today. Two hours of unfiltered emotional baseball
reaction after a nine to three Let's face it, guy's
kind of an ass kicking when it was all said
and done by the Tigers today at America Parking, Detroit.
The if you're just tuning in right now, jumped out
to a three to nothing lead, and then all hell
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broke loose in the fifth inning. The Tigers scored nine unanswered,
nine unanswered and won the game nine to three.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
So Game five is going to be in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
It'll be at one forty if the Yankees win tonight,
five oh eight if the Blue Jays win today, and
right now, the Blue Jays are leading the Yankees one
nothing in the middle of the third, the Cubs are
up in the Brewers four to three as Milwaukee looks
to close out Chicago after seven, and the Phillies and
Dodgers coming up at six oh eight tonight. Petros Papadacus,
(35:34):
by the way, will join us for a short version
at about six twenty eight tonight.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Kevin Harlan coming up at five.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
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like my pick? I did like your pick Raiders points
against the Titans. Did you like our pick yesterday? By
the way, did you enjoy that one?
Speaker 1 (36:07):
I did not. That's a guaranteed winner, the one that.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
We made yesterday when we were all in a panic
mode man before the game, trying to sneak it in.
But cal Raleigh uh in the clubhouse. After this game today,
let's hear from the captain. Let's hear from the leader
of this baseball team on how they rally and get
a win in Game five on Friday.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Here's the hopeful MVP.
Speaker 11 (36:33):
It makes some really good thanks good pitches and you really,
I mean you you've done one hard hit too, Dangler.
Let's score the run and you know, let's yeah, really
the mistake.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Cal what are the questions?
Speaker 11 (36:49):
Get any game like this, but you guys get their community,
they come back.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
The crowd gets back into it's just all the.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Ups and downs to today.
Speaker 11 (36:58):
Oh yeah, I mean took the lead and couldn't hold it.
So it's unfortunate, but you know, flush it.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
We'll go up to that.
Speaker 11 (37:05):
Yeah, well Friday, so it's best and so good. You see,
fit just a familiar over I mean yeah, I mean
but it goes both ways. So you know they've been
throwing the ball good all year. You know, I uh,
I have confidence if I bounced back on five, for sure.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
It's being bouncing that we've seen you guys do that
so many times this year.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
And you know, obviously it's not maybe in the media APNA.
Speaker 9 (37:28):
That is certainly the mindset and move board that we've
seen you guys do this before.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
What does it take?
Speaker 1 (37:32):
What is it special about this team that is allowed
you to do that so much this season.
Speaker 11 (37:35):
Yeah, I mean, you know, we've got a lot of
resiliency in this club, and you know, I have confidence
to the guys that we're gonna go out and play
play good baseball. It's gonna be tough, so we're up
for the challenge. And that's such a guest on there.
Face good pitching and face good teams, and there's gonna
be challenges about the road, and you know we're up
for for Friday. Got to store your name, whether it
be Kirby or in the least, how much we're both
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a little bit of both, and how much competition those
two around now, Yeah, I mean we have what's confidence
in all of our guys. So you know, they both
thought through the ball really well the first time. So
those Game five, if you think it happen, you know,
one game series, So go out there, you know, give
it your best go and you know from there that's
all you can do.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
So ky Rolly, he's seven for sixteen in this series,
so I think he's doing good at the plate. There's
no doubt about it. And I was just thinking about
this in my little brain here, Dick, that if they
can somehow, somehow find a way to win on Friday
against Trek Scoble. What an unbelievable injection of energy and
momentum that would give this baseball team to survive a
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Game five elimination against Detroit and then going to Toronto
coming back home Sunday to take on the Yankees. It
kind of I mean, right, look, right now, there's no
middle ground. Right Either A, we're going to bed Friday
night and we're bummed out beyond belief and we're pissed
off beyond belief and we're heartbroken beyond belief. Or we're
ready to jump through a freaking wall for this baseball team.
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Either way, this is playoff baseball. There's no middle ground here.
I mean, just think about the emotions you had last night.
I couldn't even sleep last night thinking about this. This morning,
I'm pacing around the house waiting for twelve oh eight
to start. These swing in emotions from one game to
the next, one serious to the next. Is why the
baseball playoffs are so freaking.
Speaker 6 (39:22):
Going well on the swinging momentum too, And I think
I understand what Anders saying, Hey, Detroit's got the momentum
going in Game five. You're right Troit's got the momentum
going into a game five. But the Mariners had all
the momentum in the world when they were up three
to ninf thing, and they still gave up nine runs
in a row. So just because there's momentum, that doesn't
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necessarily mean that the team that's gonna win the game.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
No doubt.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
And you can also lose it and you can also
get it back very quickly. I mean, look at the Tigers,
like you just study yourself, by the way, and the Yankees,
Yankees hit nikies just tied the game, Ryan McMahon, they
got from Colorado. It's one, one, bottom three. But this
is a Tiger baseball team that since what is the
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record I'm going back to the end of the year.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
There, since the we swept him.
Speaker 6 (40:12):
Honestly, here's here's what they are in the second since
the All Star breaks, all right, going, they were twenty
eight and thirty seven right on the season. They were
twelve games worse than the Seattle Mariners since the All
Star Break.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah, and that's what they are. That's what they've been.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
But again, if the one game was Casey Meis or
Jack Flaherty, it would just feel so different. But the
one game is maybe the best pitcher in baseball who
you now have to beat for a fourth time in
a season. This is I don't think there's anything wrong
with admitting this is a daunting task for them on Friday, well,
to get this done, huge, huge, daunting tasks.
Speaker 6 (40:50):
Vegas has them as Detroit minus one thirty two Seattle
plus one on the favor They're slightly favored in game
number five.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
Well, let's do this, Kevin Harlan, We're gonna wave from
baseball for a few minutes. Kevin Harlan his weekly visit
courtesy at Twin Peaks tuck Willa. He just saw the
Jaguars on Monday night, who the Hawks will see on Sunday.
So because he liked the position the Hawks are in
on Sunday. Next on ninety three to three KJRFL
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