October 9, 2025 • 31 mins
Coach Holmgren joins the show to talk about the Bellichick situation, the Seahawks loss vs Tampa, the matchup with Jacksonville and more. Are the Mariners a better team than the Tigers? Does it matter for a one-game do-or-die?
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Speaker 6 (02:30):
How are you shot?
Speaker 4 (02:32):
How's it going good? How are you?
Speaker 6 (02:35):
I'm hanging in there, you know, I'm I'm sorry I
can't be there in person. But it's uh, yeah, it's
it's it's it's gonna be wild. Huh, it's gonna be wild.
It's gonna be wild.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
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and we've been running it up since we got here.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
By the way, it's cocktail.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
That good. That makes me, That makes me feel better, Yes.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
It does, so thank you for that. By the way.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
But Mike Dick and I were talking last segment about
Bill Belichick and your favorite ESPN broadcaster A paw fun
Bomb was reporting that during the bye week, Bill Belichick
for Carolina took off and went on vacation with his
twenty six year old girlfriend. Didn't go recruit, didn't go
work behind the steams to make the football team better,
just took off and uh and went on a little
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SOI with his galpal. I mean, is that a signal
to you that Bill Belichick is just not invested in
this Carolina thing at all?
Speaker 6 (03:29):
Well, it just doesn't sound him at all, you know,
And you know, he's if anything else, you know, whatever
you think about it, he's a hard working guy and
he's has been that way's whole career. And so it is, Yeah,
it strikes me as odd because that's what you do
in college but that's what you do in college football
at this particular time. And no, I you know, I
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don't know, you know, the whole thing is a little
bit wacky to me. I just you know, he's he's
he's so good. He's been so good for so along
that uh just step back, smell of roses and do
something else.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
You know, did you.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Have a desire when you were the BYU quarterbacks coach
to be a head coach in college football or were
you always just like I want to be in the
NFL period.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
No, you know, Dick, I I I interviewed for the
head job at University of Montana, to be honest, and
then I thought Marty Martin Waker had played for me
in high school, had been a big star there, and uh,
you know, he put my name in and I got
a call and and I went up there and I said,
and I thought, I thought that was mine, you know,
it was it was things were going good, but then uh,
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it wasn't. And they hired a guy named Coach Reid,
and he was He became a legend there. He was
just unbelievably good. And and I came home and I
was goind of disappointed, you know, and then Bill wallstoned
and and it just happened. But I know I was
looking to I was looking to move on to get
a college job, and it didn't happen. But then the
four Anders happened.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Well, Mike, we haven't caught up since the loss of
the Buccaneers over the weekend. I mean, just a fireworks show.
No defense really at all played in that game by
by either team. And if the Seahawks win. All of
us were talking about, Hey, Sam Donald looks phenomenal. He's
number three in the NFL and passer rating right now. God,
the Hawks did the right thing, and you said that
a week ago that we can now say they did
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the right thing, moving on from Geno to Sam Donald.
But a lot of people want to use the injury excuse,
and maybe it's valid for the defense.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
A week ago.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
A ton of guys out right, Tariq wooland Witherspoon, a
bunch of guys are still on the did not participate
list for practice today at the vMac. How much should
we allow ourselves and how much will Mike McDonald allow himself?
You think to use injuries to explain what happened.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
A week ago, Well, I'll use that because I've been
there and you know you it just happens, and you
can't explain it other than to say that that the
guy we weren't ready to play with those particular guys
and I really had a good game, you know, Baker
Mayfield had a really good game, and so that can
that can happen in the NFL. You know you're going
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you got to be ready to play every week and
if injuries, they got hit by key people and key positions,
and that played right into Tampa's hands. And so mich
will never say that, he would never say that, but
down deep inside he knows injuries played a part in
that game. And it's not you know, they say the
next man up and all that stuff. That's all fine,
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you know, and they all want to play, they want
to do well. You want him to do well, but
the next man up is not the same as having
your starters and they're playing right.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Coach, the take of the whole show, We rarely agree
on anything on this show with me and Softie and Jackson,
but we all were in agreement on Sam Donold that
a he was an upgrade on Geno Smith, and B
we would evaluate Sam for the long term at the
end of the twenty twenty five season. Give him him
seventeen games as a Seahawks quarterback and see, have we
already come to the conclusion after five games that we
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found our quarterback for the long term?
Speaker 6 (07:02):
Well? I have, and and but you know, everyone everyone's
entitled their own opinion and watching him play, but you know,
he's the real deal, and and he's been he's been
really good. For them and so and he was the
other night, you know the other day, and he you know,
it just it just unfortunate what happened at the end.
But no, I think that we've already answered that question, Dick.
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I think in my own mind anyway, and I think
he's he's he's going to be answered for a while. Well.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
The good news is the Hawks have a very team
friendly contract on him, right, so if things kind of
go south or go sideways at any point in time, they'll.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Be able to get out of it.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
But this this Sunday at Jacksonville, I mean, man, all
of a sudden, Mike, you're facing one of the hottest
teams in the NFL and the Jaguars. You know you
saw the game on Monday night beating your old buddy
Andy Reid. I don't know if you saw the Trevor
Lawrence rushing touchdown where he falls down. Yeah, I get
stripped by a lignemhen he falls down and turns that
into a rushing touchdown. There's a video of defensive attack
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of Chris Jones just standing there, you know, not even
making a move to go get him. What was your
take on that whole sequence and were you a little
bit alarmed by the lack of fighting the chiefs there
a little bit.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
Well, you know what, I give Trevor Lawrence credit and
the Jacksonville Jaguars credit there. They've been struggling for a
long time and now they seem to be pulling out
of it with a new coach and there. It's just
it's going the way they think it should go. That's
having been said, I think they still have ways to go.
Trevor Lawrence had a good game. He's a good player,
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but expectations for him have been very high from the beginning,
and now it appears as though it's the right right combination.
You know, Doug Peterson was a coach there. He's a
great coach and he was a really good player for
me and I knew him very well, and it didn't
work out for some reason. You think it would because
quarterback and coach, the way it was set up, that's
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the type of setup you want. But no, now it's
happening for them, and hey, listen, it's I think it's
going to be a barnburner. It's going to be a
tough game.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Well, the reason Jacksonville's winning is because of forcing turnovers
they have ten interceptions and four force fumbles in five games.
That is more turnovers force than they did the entire
season combined last year. When you go up against a
team like that, do you prepare some you know, do
you prepare specially for that element of the game, or
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do you just look and say, this is kind of
fluky that they're forcing this many turnovers in the first
five games.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
We're just going to coach it as we normally would.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
No, you know, do you actually you know you you
know this, you actually talk about it. I mean, you
have to talk about it, because that's to your point,
that's how they won football games, and they to win
to beat us, they have to do this, so we
can't let it happen. So you look at the plays,
you look at the turnovers they've created, how they've done it.
Are they punching the ball out? What are they doing
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that's different, perhaps a little bit different than they've done
it in the past or other teams have done it.
And then then all of a sudden, then you make
the corrections, then you side that and then you move on.
Then you then you just got to play the game.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Mike, does this kind of feel like I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
This is going to be an open ended question, and
if you, Melanie were tuning in, he would kill me
for this. But does this feel like kind of a
good time to get Jacksonville?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
They're coming off the emotion of the Monday night win.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
There on a short week, you're pissed off after what
happened against Tampa. Mike McDonald's nine and one on the
road versus four and eight at home. This kind of
feels like a good spot for the Hawks this weekend?
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Or of my nuts?
Speaker 6 (10:31):
No, no, no, I think I think you can think
like that. No, it's it's uh uh, it's it's you know,
it's it's a good it's a good spot. Now. How
much you you bang on that in practice and in
meetings and so on, I'm not sure, but in your
own mind you're saying, Okay, yeah, this is a pretty
good spot for us now. But we got to play,
and we we got to play stuff to our capabilities.
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And you were him talk I mean, he he was.
He's a defensive guy, Dave right, And you know you've
you've already you've been you've be interviewed him and talked
and he was not a happy camper. After last week's
came and and you kind of I kind of sensed
that and how he was approaching things. And so they're
gonna have a tough week of practice if they get
any of the guys. The big thing was getting the
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guys back from injury. It's hard when you get when
you lose guys, particularly guys that you are, your guys.
They're the guys that set the tone for the entire game,
like you know, like their cornerback and then and you know,
it's it's just hard. And but they got to do
it again in perhaps well.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
We mentioned the home road splits, and god, I feel
like this is just on repeat every single week. We're
asking you about this, because we asked you about this
going into the Tampa game, and now he's four and
eight at home. I mean, at what point does this
just Mike put yourself in his shoes?
Speaker 4 (11:45):
At what point does this just.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Become something that he just cannot get out of his
head that they just can't find.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
A way to win.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
He's lost sixty six percent of the games he's played
at Luminfield since he's been here, which is obvious unacceptable.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
Yeah, and you know what, and David doesn't make any sense.
You know, guys, the people owners of coaches teams that
they want exactly what they see owks have at home.
They want that kind of atmosphere. And and then to
have that and not be able to take advantage of it,
you know, is startling and and you know it's a
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it can wear on you now. I you know he is.
He's really an interesting young guy and I really think
the world of him as a coach. And he'll he'll
approach this thing the right way. But it would keep
me up at night. It would go what is going on?
And that it would it would be hard, coach.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
I was thinking about you watching that game with Trevor
Lawrence and watching him multiple times run out of time
on the play clock, Darle and Cohen not saving him,
by the way by taking time outs. He just had
his arms crossed and then Trevor Lawrence, I don't know
if he saw this, he was three yards past the
line of scrimmage and threw a forward pass. He had
no idea where he would how frustrated, like, how.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Would you handle that? I have never seen a quarterback.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
Do that before.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Yeah, you know what, I didn't see that, But the
way you describe it. It's you know, it's you would go,
what are you doing? You know, I've had that conversation. Fortunately, Fortunately,
fortunately they didn't have me on the live mic with FARV.
You know in those days, right, you know, Matt, You
know you have quarterbacks that have a real good feel
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for that. Then you have guys that it's hard for
some whatever reason. But that's an you gotta be more
play in that position. You have to be more aware,
you have.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
To be Yeah, I don't know, man, the more guys,
the more I think about it, I really like the
Hawks this Sunday Jackson at Maybe I'm just a sucker
and I'm gonna regret this on Monday, but I really
like him a lot. And Mike, I'm trying to figure
out what's going on down in your old neck of
the woods in San Francisco. Were the forty nine ers
because they're dropping like flies and they just keep fighting,
think ways to win.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
They're four and one, They're going to Tampa.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It looks like mac Jones may start again because brock
Perty is banged up. But I mean mac Jones is
playing really well for like a tenth of what brock
Perty's making.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Is there any part of your old pal John Lynch.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
You think, who is regretting giving brock Purty that contract
after watching what mac Jones.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Has been doing.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
No, you know what, I don't think he regrets it,
but you know he's thought about it. Absolutely, he's taught
about it because you have you have a head coach
who really understands quarterbacks, I think, and and really knows
how to you know, how to get through them, get
the best out of them. And then and they're getting
that out of And I think mac Jones, I think
is a good player. I think he's a good player.
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Was in a tough situation, not a very good offensive
situation where he was before, and so now he's playing
and they're winning. And but that's that's just really good
coaching in my opinion, because they are hurt, Dave there
there's nothing that looks good to me about their team
right now physically. And uh no, but he and he
did you know, he knows he did the right thing
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with perty and he wants pretty back, but that they
were Also he's saying he's lucky started he's got the
other guy coach.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
I don't know if you saw what happened in the
Cardinal game with their running back dropping the ball at
the one foot line before he went into the end zone.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
I did, Yes, did you.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
See did you see Jonathan Gannon's interaction with him where
he kind of popped him in the chest a couple
of times and he's been fined one hundred thousand dollars
for it?
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Have you seen that?
Speaker 6 (15:29):
No? I did not see that.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Yeah, he dad, he came out, he came up to
him on the sidelines hot, he kind of popped him
with two hands in the you know, in the in
the shoulder pads, talked to him, and then as he
was walking away, he kind of open handed, just in frustration,
just slapped him across the chest.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
So I guess inappropriate, in or appropriate?
Speaker 5 (15:52):
I mean, we're all kind of from a different era
of football where coaches used to put their hands on
players an awful lot and didn't get in and didn't
get any repercussions from it.
Speaker 6 (16:02):
Yeah, yeah, no, I'm surprised the league did that. You know.
Fortunately they didn't do that to me, and they could
have done it that a couple of times, you know,
because but it was you know, a year year frustrated
he didn't last him. You know, with a punch or
anything now, but you can you wake them up. You know.
I slapped farm on the helmet. I slapped h We
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had a receiver, we had a guy that did a penalty.
I grabbed him by the face match and shook his head,
you know, And so that would have been that would
have been that would have.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Been been a fine. You can't do that now, it
would have been a fine today.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
No, can't do that. I mean, is the league going
maybe a little bit? You know what.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I want to send you the video and have you
watch it and maybe get your thoughts off the year.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
But you think coaches.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Now are just kind of trained in twenty twenty five,
that you just you can't put your hands on players
the way that you did back in the nineties.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
Well, sure, I think that's the way it is, you know.
I you know, I listen. I taught, I taught high school.
I was a teacher in high school for a long time,
and the rules changed and what you could you could
say or do to your students, it really changed. And
and thank you for that.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
By the way, in your classroom, didn't you have a bat.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
For this room? Yeah? They called it the torture chamber.
I don't know why that was in the school newspaper. Wow.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
So it wasn't just a paddle like to smack somebody's butt.
It wasn't actually a bat.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
No, it was a cutoff bat. It wasn't a full bat.
It was a cutoff an old wooden desk. And I
was able to get their attention by hitting that thing
and just jumping. They jumped out of their skin, you know,
just when they were a little they were getting a
little wild and wooly. You know.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
The torture chamber.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
You know, if you had one of those now in
your Kirkland condo, that'd be a much different context.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
By the way, if you had a torture chaper.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
It would, it would. I don't know, I don't know.
Hope Kathy's not listening to this show today, you know, God.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Thank God. Yes, he has no idea that Mike actually
has another room in the house, by the way, no idea. Okay, Mike,
great stuff, and we will see you hopefully in person
next week.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
All right, coach, all right, but take care guys.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
All right, man, Mike Homer with us on the show,
come back and talk from baseball. We'll check the Dodgers
Philly score, kind of check the check the anxiety level
of Mariner Nation, the show's anxiety level. Getting ready for
let's face it, Boys and Girls, the biggest Marinder game
in twenty four years, and probably the biggest Marinder game
of Anderson Hurst's coherent lifetime. Right coming up next on
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Speaker 8 (18:34):
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Speaker 2 (18:51):
All Right tomorrow night, by the way, six PMFS two
You don Rutgers five oh eight on Fox, Maritters and
the Right Tigers. I had a small senior moment.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
There for are you gonna say?
Speaker 6 (19:04):
Who?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Say? I forgot who they're playing? Just a small, small
senior moments.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
It's only what you've been thinking about for the past
forty eight hours.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I know, dude, I was able to recover.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Maybe that's why because, as my old buddy Dick Barrett
used to say, paralysis by analysis.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
I am done talking about this thing.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
God, it feels like Game four ended a week ago, right, Like,
let's go.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
I mean the freaking thing ended.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Twenty four hours ago, and here we are twenty four
hours away from first pitch tomorrow at T Mobile Park. No,
it does not, but Dick's got a pair of club
seats for the UW Rutgers game to give away. And
that's the reason why the club angle is important.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Because there's TVs in the club, that's right, and you
can stay nice and toasting why it's the Husky game and.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Watch the Mariner game, that's right.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
So when the Huskies are beating the piss out of
Rutgers forty five, you can mosey on over to the
club and watch the baseball game on the TV. So,
if you want a pair of club seats for the
UB Rutgers game tomorrow, courtesy of our friends at the RAM,
just Banger or Jeff.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Jeff.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
This is the owner's seats, so I figured they're gonna
be okay.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I figured Banger probably couldn't afford those seats anyway, So
thanks Jeff for hooking us up with.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
The Rutgers game.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Well, here's what we're gonna do. So I want you
to text in your first and last name. What do
you need, email, phone number, first and last name and
email and the answer to this question twenty seventeen, Washington.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Rutgers out there.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
What husky red shirt freshman made his debut with not
one but two interceptions that night? For YOUB texting that
name and your first and last name and your email
to four nine four five one. I'll give you a
little bit of a hint. He also plays for the Seahawks,
at least his namesake does.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Oh, now you're just confusing people. Now you're confusing people.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
What husky red shirt freshman made his debut in the
opener at Rutgers eight years ago and had two interceptions
against the Scarlet Knights and a win that day? Overt
Rutgers text in your first and last name, your email,
and the name of that player to four nine four
to five one and yours go ahead and grab a
winner at random and will announce the winner on the air.
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So tomorrow five oh eight the biggest Mariner baseball game
in a quarter century.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Yes, I mean that's what it is, absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
I mean I don't even think it can be debated.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
I mean, you'd like to say there's been bigger games
than that, and there hasn't.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Sad that there's not, but there have not been bigger
games than that. So this is the biggest game for
a lot of people of their lives. First elimination game
since the Indians game in two thousand and five when
the Mariners fell behind in that series, they came back
and they won Game four. Lots of win that was
it Progressive or Jacob's Field. Back then it was Jacob's field.
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I think, garbage flying all over the stadium. Edgar hits
a bomb to left field that day and they came
home tied at two. Jamie Moyer on the he pitches well,
and the MS beat the Tribe to go to the
Alcs to take on the Yankees. So it's been that
long since the Mariners have played a game like this.
And you know, you were talking yesterday about who the
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better team is, and I think you're right.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
That overall, over the course of a buck.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Sixty two, the Mariners have the better team. But there's
no equalizer in sports more so than a starting pitcher
for the opposing baseball team.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Correct that, Yeah, quarterback would be right there.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Right, Yes, if you've got a quarterback playing every single day,
that team's probably pretty good. What I mean by this
is if you have two teams that one team is
decidedly better than the other and they played a five
game sample with each other, but game five, that bad
team is throwing a Cy Young Award winner out there,
like Felix Hernandez in two thousand and eight or whatever
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year is twenty ten. Right, that's a difference maker. That
is an equalizer that tips the scales and the Tigers
favor And look, you study yesterday. There's a reason why
they're favored right now. Their favorite to win this game
in Vegas tomorrow at Temobile Park. So this is going
to be guys, if the Mariners do win this thing.
I just want to say it right now that we're
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gonna be on the air on Monday or the postgame
show with Chuck and Buck on Friday night down there
in Jimmy's extremely impressed by what they just did to
beat this guy four times in one year, twice in
a series and get him in a must win Game
five at home for the right.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
To go to the Alcs.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Do not dismiss how impressive this will be if they
pull this off tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
I mean, Trek Scuble would be calling the Seattle Mariners
the same thing that you always said to San Francisco
forty nine ers, Cal Russell.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Wilson, Daddy Daddy, dad dee.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
I mean, it will be four and zero if they
can get a win tomorrow against Scooble. And this detract
I keep going back to the stat Since the All
Star break, the Tigers were twenty eight and thirty seven.
They were twenty first in the e RA in the
OPS playoffs. In the second half of the baseball season,
got it, they were nineteenth and OPS, twenty first in
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the RA, seventeenth and bullpen era with a nine game
under five hundred record, And they've kind of, honestly, they've
kind of showed to be a pretty mediocre team thus far,
except for about a three inning blast off of Bizarto
and Gabe Spier yesterday. I mean, it's I just feel
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like we can take it. If if we can get
two runs, Yeah, in the first seven innings of this game,
I'm feeling incredible.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
If we can get one run, I still feel okay.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
But I think it's gonna be zero zero, one, zero,
one to one at the end of seven.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Problem, what's the what's the Tigers record this year? You
said overall? What's the record?
Speaker 3 (24:47):
The same as us r Where did they finish?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Are they a ninety one team, eighty seven and seventy five?
Eighty seven and seventy five. I'm gonna do some quick
math here for a little bit. So they were eighty
seven and seventy five on the year. Hang on a second,
tell the Joe Chris.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Well, I'll tell you that you mentioned the odds. Detroit
was minus one thirty two yesterday. They're minus won forty
four now. So the odds, the money is on the
Tigers right now. But what's interesting, guys, is that when
you look at the World Series Championship odds, the Mariners
are still favored over.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
The Tigers to win the World Series.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
That's how much Vegas thinks the Mariners are a better team,
so they can get by that one game.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
The Mariners have a better chance to win it all.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
No question, no question. But here's the thing about tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
So first of all, we have been saying for the
last couple of months, in the last couple of years,
just get in.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Anything could happen.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Well, the other side of anything can happen is the
Tigers beating you in Game five.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Mediocre teams beating an eighty.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Seven win team.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Now, they only won three less games than you did,
but they were terrible, as you said, in the second.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Half of the year.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
They're eighty seven wins because they had a great first half.
But I mean, Dick, this is the other side of that.
You play a five game series. If we're gonna say
anything could happen for the Mariners, then anything can happen
for the Tigers too.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Here's the deal.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
They were eighty seven and seventy five on the ear.
They were sixty six and sixty five without Trek Scooball
and twenty one and ten with him. So I think
you throw all of that out. I think you throw
out sixty six and sixty five. You throw out eighty
seven and sixty five, and you look at what this
Tigers baseball team is. Again, like I said yesterday, if
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we're sitting here Andrews doing a Tiger's Honk show on
the air, now we're all Tiger fans.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Okay, Yeah, I'm saying, what do.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I care what the Tigers do without Terrek Scooball because
he's pitching tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, we were twenty one and ten with this guy.
We won twenty one to thirty one games. We won
two thirds of the time. Yeah, Tyrek Scruble pitched, I
would feel very confident if I were Tiger fans.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (26:43):
But in the other point that Dick was making about,
you know, they were terrible down the stretch of the season, Yes,
but they also won a playoff series. So right, if
you're a Tiger fan or a player or coach or anything,
all of what happened in the second half of the
season is out the door. Now you already won your series.
You've evened it up with the Mariners. It's one game
to continue it.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
And I'm not saying they can't win and missing right,
noris I just think this idea that we are so
much better than Detroit. Yes, I agree with that over
the course of six months. But I do think that
when you're talking about one game, this is a one
game series, and that's what we're talking about. Are they
so much better than Detroit tomorrow with Trek Scubele on
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the mound? And I don't think that they are. I
think the Tigers with Tarrek Scuball tomorrow are a better
team than we are with Luis Castillo and George Kirby
coming out of the pen. Now, it doesn't mean that
Terrek won't have a bad day, doesn't mean the EMS
won't get to him. By the way, do you know
who has started every single game against Tarrek Scouble this
year for the Mariners? Luis Castile, every single one. He's
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every single game and.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
He's starting again.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Let's go, let's keep it on.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
I think he should start tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
And by the way, I asked this question today in
the morning show, and I want to get both your
thoughts on this, guys. And this question came up at
seven o'clock in the morning. It's now almost five pm
and they haven't announced yet who's starting tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (28:02):
They playing mind games, That's what I'm do.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
We read anything into that at all? Meaning they've got
to know, right maybe they're seeing well.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
That would lean me to believe that they are seriously
considering Luis Castillo and they want to get far enough
away from Sunday to ask Luise, Hey, how you feeling, man?
How are you recovering from Sunday's outing? Because I mean,
because if it's if it was gonna be Kirby, then
don't you think they would have just announced that.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I think I think they know. I think they know
who's starting. I mean, I don't know. Maybe this is
a question for Jeff Nelson. He'll join us at six
o'clock and maybe by that time we'll know. By the way,
but how in the world could they be sitting here
twenty four hours and twenty minutes before first pitch tomorrow
Anders and the guy who's starting the game tomorrow doesn't
know he's starting.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
They know, I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
I agree.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
I think they know, and they would have told him
by now. And maybe it's one of those situations where
you know, you start, and you're go only going three
innings or two or three, and then you go to
the other guy and it's like right, So maybe there
is some sort of like who goes first sort of thing,
But yeah, I just think it has to be Louise
CASTI you, well.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I do agree with that, And I also do think
that the bullpen thing, you gotta be careful with that man,
especially for guys that.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Don't aren't used to it.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
You see what happened to Clayton Kershaw last night. Herby
has him throw y.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Herby's been there before.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I just I think personally, and I'm just telling you
right now, I'm not gonna throw a fit either way,
but I think personally I would go with the rock tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Yes, I think he deserves it.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
I have funny how we've gone from a guy who
you were Oh, I was worried about him in August.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
I was like, not sure that I wanted him to
pitch in the playoffs the way he pitched for five
or six outings there for the stretch of season. But
he turned it around in September and looked really, really
good down the stretch. I just think he gives you.
I think he fires the crowd us walking on the
mound in the first inning more than more than George
Kirby does.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
God bless George Kirby.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
But he doesn't have the fire that Luis Castile has,
and I think you need to fire the guys up this.
There's a situation where I totally agree with you. Trek
Scooble on the mound, Detroit has a better chance to win.
But he's only going six or seven innings. This is
a nine inning baseball game. If you can keep it
a one run game or an even game when Scoobale
exits the game, then you've got the advantage.
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Speaker 6 (02:30):
How are you shot?
Speaker 4 (02:32):
How's it going good? How are you?
Speaker 6 (02:35):
I'm hanging in there, you know, I'm I'm sorry I
can't be there in person. But it's uh, yeah, it's
it's it's it's gonna be wild. Huh, it's gonna be wild.
It's gonna be wild.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
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and we've been running it up since we got here.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
By the way, it's cocktail.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
That good. That makes me, That makes me feel better, Yes.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
It does, so thank you for that. By the way.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
But Mike Dick and I were talking last segment about
Bill Belichick and your favorite ESPN broadcaster A paw fun
Bomb was reporting that during the bye week, Bill Belichick
for Carolina took off and went on vacation with his
twenty six year old girlfriend. Didn't go recruit, didn't go
work behind the steams to make the football team better,
just took off and uh and went on a little
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SOI with his galpal. I mean, is that a signal
to you that Bill Belichick is just not invested in
this Carolina thing at all?
Speaker 6 (03:29):
Well, it just doesn't sound him at all, you know,
And you know, he's if anything else, you know, whatever
you think about it, he's a hard working guy and
he's has been that way's whole career. And so it is, Yeah,
it strikes me as odd because that's what you do
in college but that's what you do in college football
at this particular time. And no, I you know, I
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don't know, you know, the whole thing is a little
bit wacky to me. I just you know, he's he's
he's so good. He's been so good for so along
that uh just step back, smell of roses and do
something else.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
You know, did you.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Have a desire when you were the BYU quarterbacks coach
to be a head coach in college football or were
you always just like I want to be in the
NFL period.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
No, you know, Dick, I I I interviewed for the
head job at University of Montana, to be honest, and
then I thought Marty Martin Waker had played for me
in high school, had been a big star there, and uh,
you know, he put my name in and I got
a call and and I went up there and I said,
and I thought, I thought that was mine, you know,
it was it was things were going good, but then uh,
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it wasn't. And they hired a guy named Coach Reid,
and he was He became a legend there. He was
just unbelievably good. And and I came home and I
was goind of disappointed, you know, and then Bill wallstoned
and and it just happened. But I know I was
looking to I was looking to move on to get
a college job, and it didn't happen. But then the
four Anders happened.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Well, Mike, we haven't caught up since the loss of
the Buccaneers over the weekend. I mean, just a fireworks show.
No defense really at all played in that game by
by either team. And if the Seahawks win. All of
us were talking about, Hey, Sam Donald looks phenomenal. He's
number three in the NFL and passer rating right now. God,
the Hawks did the right thing, and you said that
a week ago that we can now say they did
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the right thing, moving on from Geno to Sam Donald.
But a lot of people want to use the injury excuse,
and maybe it's valid for the defense.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
A week ago.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
A ton of guys out right, Tariq wooland Witherspoon, a
bunch of guys are still on the did not participate
list for practice today at the vMac. How much should
we allow ourselves and how much will Mike McDonald allow himself?
You think to use injuries to explain what happened.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
A week ago, Well, I'll use that because I've been
there and you know you it just happens, and you
can't explain it other than to say that that the
guy we weren't ready to play with those particular guys
and I really had a good game, you know, Baker
Mayfield had a really good game, and so that can
that can happen in the NFL. You know you're going
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you got to be ready to play every week and
if injuries, they got hit by key people and key positions,
and that played right into Tampa's hands. And so mich
will never say that, he would never say that, but
down deep inside he knows injuries played a part in
that game. And it's not you know, they say the
next man up and all that stuff. That's all fine,
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you know, and they all want to play, they want
to do well. You want him to do well, but
the next man up is not the same as having
your starters and they're playing right.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Coach, the take of the whole show, We rarely agree
on anything on this show with me and Softie and Jackson,
but we all were in agreement on Sam Donold that
a he was an upgrade on Geno Smith, and B
we would evaluate Sam for the long term at the
end of the twenty twenty five season. Give him him
seventeen games as a Seahawks quarterback and see, have we
already come to the conclusion after five games that we
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found our quarterback for the long term?
Speaker 6 (07:02):
Well? I have, and and but you know, everyone everyone's
entitled their own opinion and watching him play, but you know,
he's the real deal, and and he's been he's been
really good. For them and so and he was the
other night, you know the other day, and he you know,
it just it just unfortunate what happened at the end.
But no, I think that we've already answered that question, Dick.
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I think in my own mind anyway, and I think
he's he's he's going to be answered for a while. Well.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
The good news is the Hawks have a very team
friendly contract on him, right, so if things kind of
go south or go sideways at any point in time, they'll.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Be able to get out of it.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
But this this Sunday at Jacksonville, I mean, man, all
of a sudden, Mike, you're facing one of the hottest
teams in the NFL and the Jaguars. You know you
saw the game on Monday night beating your old buddy
Andy Reid. I don't know if you saw the Trevor
Lawrence rushing touchdown where he falls down. Yeah, I get
stripped by a lignemhen he falls down and turns that
into a rushing touchdown. There's a video of defensive attack
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of Chris Jones just standing there, you know, not even
making a move to go get him. What was your
take on that whole sequence and were you a little
bit alarmed by the lack of fighting the chiefs there
a little bit.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
Well, you know what, I give Trevor Lawrence credit and
the Jacksonville Jaguars credit there. They've been struggling for a
long time and now they seem to be pulling out
of it with a new coach and there. It's just
it's going the way they think it should go. That's
having been said, I think they still have ways to go.
Trevor Lawrence had a good game. He's a good player,
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but expectations for him have been very high from the beginning,
and now it appears as though it's the right right combination.
You know, Doug Peterson was a coach there. He's a
great coach and he was a really good player for
me and I knew him very well, and it didn't
work out for some reason. You think it would because
quarterback and coach, the way it was set up, that's
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the type of setup you want. But no, now it's
happening for them, and hey, listen, it's I think it's
going to be a barnburner. It's going to be a
tough game.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Well, the reason Jacksonville's winning is because of forcing turnovers
they have ten interceptions and four force fumbles in five games.
That is more turnovers force than they did the entire
season combined last year. When you go up against a
team like that, do you prepare some you know, do
you prepare specially for that element of the game, or
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do you just look and say, this is kind of
fluky that they're forcing this many turnovers in the first
five games.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
We're just going to coach it as we normally would.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
No, you know, do you actually you know you you
know this, you actually talk about it. I mean, you
have to talk about it, because that's to your point,
that's how they won football games, and they to win
to beat us, they have to do this, so we
can't let it happen. So you look at the plays,
you look at the turnovers they've created, how they've done it.
Are they punching the ball out? What are they doing
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that's different, perhaps a little bit different than they've done
it in the past or other teams have done it.
And then then all of a sudden, then you make
the corrections, then you side that and then you move on.
Then you then you just got to play the game.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Mike, does this kind of feel like I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
This is going to be an open ended question, and
if you, Melanie were tuning in, he would kill me
for this. But does this feel like kind of a
good time to get Jacksonville?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
They're coming off the emotion of the Monday night win.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
There on a short week, you're pissed off after what
happened against Tampa. Mike McDonald's nine and one on the
road versus four and eight at home. This kind of
feels like a good spot for the Hawks this weekend?
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Or of my nuts?
Speaker 6 (10:31):
No, no, no, I think I think you can think
like that. No, it's it's uh uh, it's it's you know,
it's it's a good it's a good spot. Now. How
much you you bang on that in practice and in
meetings and so on, I'm not sure, but in your
own mind you're saying, Okay, yeah, this is a pretty
good spot for us now. But we got to play,
and we we got to play stuff to our capabilities.
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And you were him talk I mean, he he was.
He's a defensive guy, Dave right, And you know you've
you've already you've been you've be interviewed him and talked
and he was not a happy camper. After last week's
came and and you kind of I kind of sensed
that and how he was approaching things. And so they're
gonna have a tough week of practice if they get
any of the guys. The big thing was getting the
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guys back from injury. It's hard when you get when
you lose guys, particularly guys that you are, your guys.
They're the guys that set the tone for the entire game,
like you know, like their cornerback and then and you know,
it's it's just hard. And but they got to do
it again in perhaps well.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
We mentioned the home road splits, and god, I feel
like this is just on repeat every single week. We're
asking you about this, because we asked you about this
going into the Tampa game, and now he's four and
eight at home. I mean, at what point does this
just Mike put yourself in his shoes?
Speaker 4 (11:45):
At what point does this just.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Become something that he just cannot get out of his
head that they just can't find.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
A way to win.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
He's lost sixty six percent of the games he's played
at Luminfield since he's been here, which is obvious unacceptable.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
Yeah, and you know what, and David doesn't make any sense.
You know, guys, the people owners of coaches teams that
they want exactly what they see owks have at home.
They want that kind of atmosphere. And and then to
have that and not be able to take advantage of it,
you know, is startling and and you know it's a
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it can wear on you now. I you know he is.
He's really an interesting young guy and I really think
the world of him as a coach. And he'll he'll
approach this thing the right way. But it would keep
me up at night. It would go what is going on?
And that it would it would be hard, coach.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
I was thinking about you watching that game with Trevor
Lawrence and watching him multiple times run out of time
on the play clock, Darle and Cohen not saving him,
by the way by taking time outs. He just had
his arms crossed and then Trevor Lawrence, I don't know
if he saw this, he was three yards past the
line of scrimmage and threw a forward pass. He had
no idea where he would how frustrated, like, how.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Would you handle that? I have never seen a quarterback.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
Do that before.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Yeah, you know what, I didn't see that, But the
way you describe it. It's you know, it's you would go,
what are you doing? You know, I've had that conversation. Fortunately, Fortunately,
fortunately they didn't have me on the live mic with FARV.
You know in those days, right, you know, Matt, You
know you have quarterbacks that have a real good feel
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for that. Then you have guys that it's hard for
some whatever reason. But that's an you gotta be more
play in that position. You have to be more aware,
you have.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
To be Yeah, I don't know, man, the more guys,
the more I think about it, I really like the
Hawks this Sunday Jackson at Maybe I'm just a sucker
and I'm gonna regret this on Monday, but I really
like him a lot. And Mike, I'm trying to figure
out what's going on down in your old neck of
the woods in San Francisco. Were the forty nine ers
because they're dropping like flies and they just keep fighting,
think ways to win.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
They're four and one, They're going to Tampa.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It looks like mac Jones may start again because brock
Perty is banged up. But I mean mac Jones is
playing really well for like a tenth of what brock
Perty's making.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Is there any part of your old pal John Lynch.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
You think, who is regretting giving brock Purty that contract
after watching what mac Jones.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Has been doing.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
No, you know what, I don't think he regrets it,
but you know he's thought about it. Absolutely, he's taught
about it because you have you have a head coach
who really understands quarterbacks, I think, and and really knows
how to you know, how to get through them, get
the best out of them. And then and they're getting
that out of And I think mac Jones, I think
is a good player. I think he's a good player.
(14:43):
Was in a tough situation, not a very good offensive
situation where he was before, and so now he's playing
and they're winning. And but that's that's just really good
coaching in my opinion, because they are hurt, Dave there
there's nothing that looks good to me about their team
right now physically. And uh no, but he and he
did you know, he knows he did the right thing
(15:03):
with perty and he wants pretty back, but that they
were Also he's saying he's lucky started he's got the
other guy coach.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
I don't know if you saw what happened in the
Cardinal game with their running back dropping the ball at
the one foot line before he went into the end zone.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
I did, Yes, did you.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
See did you see Jonathan Gannon's interaction with him where
he kind of popped him in the chest a couple
of times and he's been fined one hundred thousand dollars
for it?
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Have you seen that?
Speaker 6 (15:29):
No? I did not see that.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Yeah, he dad, he came out, he came up to
him on the sidelines hot, he kind of popped him
with two hands in the you know, in the in
the shoulder pads, talked to him, and then as he
was walking away, he kind of open handed, just in frustration,
just slapped him across the chest.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
So I guess inappropriate, in or appropriate?
Speaker 5 (15:52):
I mean, we're all kind of from a different era
of football where coaches used to put their hands on
players an awful lot and didn't get in and didn't
get any repercussions from it.
Speaker 6 (16:02):
Yeah, yeah, no, I'm surprised the league did that. You know.
Fortunately they didn't do that to me, and they could
have done it that a couple of times, you know,
because but it was you know, a year year frustrated
he didn't last him. You know, with a punch or
anything now, but you can you wake them up. You know.
I slapped farm on the helmet. I slapped h We
(16:22):
had a receiver, we had a guy that did a penalty.
I grabbed him by the face match and shook his head,
you know, And so that would have been that would
have been that would have.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Been been a fine. You can't do that now, it
would have been a fine today.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
No, can't do that. I mean, is the league going
maybe a little bit? You know what.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I want to send you the video and have you
watch it and maybe get your thoughts off the year.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
But you think coaches.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Now are just kind of trained in twenty twenty five,
that you just you can't put your hands on players
the way that you did back in the nineties.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
Well, sure, I think that's the way it is, you know.
I you know, I listen. I taught, I taught high school.
I was a teacher in high school for a long time,
and the rules changed and what you could you could
say or do to your students, it really changed. And
and thank you for that.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
By the way, in your classroom, didn't you have a bat.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
For this room? Yeah? They called it the torture chamber.
I don't know why that was in the school newspaper. Wow.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
So it wasn't just a paddle like to smack somebody's butt.
It wasn't actually a bat.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
No, it was a cutoff bat. It wasn't a full bat.
It was a cutoff an old wooden desk. And I
was able to get their attention by hitting that thing
and just jumping. They jumped out of their skin, you know,
just when they were a little they were getting a
little wild and wooly. You know.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
The torture chamber.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
You know, if you had one of those now in
your Kirkland condo, that'd be a much different context.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
By the way, if you had a torture chaper.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
It would, it would. I don't know, I don't know.
Hope Kathy's not listening to this show today, you know, God.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Thank God. Yes, he has no idea that Mike actually
has another room in the house, by the way, no idea. Okay, Mike,
great stuff, and we will see you hopefully in person
next week.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
All right, coach, all right, but take care guys.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
All right, man, Mike Homer with us on the show,
come back and talk from baseball. We'll check the Dodgers
Philly score, kind of check the check the anxiety level
of Mariner Nation, the show's anxiety level. Getting ready for
let's face it, Boys and Girls, the biggest Marinder game
in twenty four years, and probably the biggest Marinder game
of Anderson Hurst's coherent lifetime. Right coming up next on
(18:28):
ninety three three KJRFM from the.
Speaker 8 (18:34):
R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now back to
SOFTI and Dick on your Home for the Huskies, Kraken
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Speaker 2 (18:51):
All Right tomorrow night, by the way, six PMFS two
You don Rutgers five oh eight on Fox, Maritters and
the Right Tigers. I had a small senior moment.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
There for are you gonna say?
Speaker 6 (19:04):
Who?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Say? I forgot who they're playing? Just a small, small
senior moments.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
It's only what you've been thinking about for the past
forty eight hours.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I know, dude, I was able to recover.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Maybe that's why because, as my old buddy Dick Barrett
used to say, paralysis by analysis.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
I am done talking about this thing.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
God, it feels like Game four ended a week ago, right, Like,
let's go.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
I mean the freaking thing ended.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Twenty four hours ago, and here we are twenty four
hours away from first pitch tomorrow at T Mobile Park. No,
it does not, but Dick's got a pair of club
seats for the UW Rutgers game to give away. And
that's the reason why the club angle is important.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Because there's TVs in the club, that's right, and you
can stay nice and toasting why it's the Husky game and.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Watch the Mariner game, that's right.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
So when the Huskies are beating the piss out of
Rutgers forty five, you can mosey on over to the
club and watch the baseball game on the TV. So,
if you want a pair of club seats for the
UB Rutgers game tomorrow, courtesy of our friends at the RAM,
just Banger or Jeff.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Jeff.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
This is the owner's seats, so I figured they're gonna
be okay.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I figured Banger probably couldn't afford those seats anyway, So
thanks Jeff for hooking us up with.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
The Rutgers game.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Well, here's what we're gonna do. So I want you
to text in your first and last name. What do
you need, email, phone number, first and last name and
email and the answer to this question twenty seventeen, Washington.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Rutgers out there.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
What husky red shirt freshman made his debut with not
one but two interceptions that night? For YOUB texting that
name and your first and last name and your email
to four nine four five one. I'll give you a
little bit of a hint. He also plays for the Seahawks,
at least his namesake does.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Oh, now you're just confusing people. Now you're confusing people.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
What husky red shirt freshman made his debut in the
opener at Rutgers eight years ago and had two interceptions
against the Scarlet Knights and a win that day? Overt
Rutgers text in your first and last name, your email,
and the name of that player to four nine four
to five one and yours go ahead and grab a
winner at random and will announce the winner on the air.
(21:17):
So tomorrow five oh eight the biggest Mariner baseball game
in a quarter century.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Yes, I mean that's what it is, absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
I mean I don't even think it can be debated.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
I mean, you'd like to say there's been bigger games
than that, and there hasn't.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Sad that there's not, but there have not been bigger
games than that. So this is the biggest game for
a lot of people of their lives. First elimination game
since the Indians game in two thousand and five when
the Mariners fell behind in that series, they came back
and they won Game four. Lots of win that was
it Progressive or Jacob's Field. Back then it was Jacob's field.
(21:50):
I think, garbage flying all over the stadium. Edgar hits
a bomb to left field that day and they came
home tied at two. Jamie Moyer on the he pitches well,
and the MS beat the Tribe to go to the
Alcs to take on the Yankees. So it's been that
long since the Mariners have played a game like this.
And you know, you were talking yesterday about who the
(22:11):
better team is, and I think you're right.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
That overall, over the course of a buck.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Sixty two, the Mariners have the better team. But there's
no equalizer in sports more so than a starting pitcher
for the opposing baseball team.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Correct that, Yeah, quarterback would be right there.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Right, Yes, if you've got a quarterback playing every single day,
that team's probably pretty good. What I mean by this
is if you have two teams that one team is
decidedly better than the other and they played a five
game sample with each other, but game five, that bad
team is throwing a Cy Young Award winner out there,
like Felix Hernandez in two thousand and eight or whatever
(22:48):
year is twenty ten. Right, that's a difference maker. That
is an equalizer that tips the scales and the Tigers
favor And look, you study yesterday. There's a reason why
they're favored right now. Their favorite to win this game
in Vegas tomorrow at Temobile Park. So this is going
to be guys, if the Mariners do win this thing.
I just want to say it right now that we're
(23:09):
gonna be on the air on Monday or the postgame
show with Chuck and Buck on Friday night down there
in Jimmy's extremely impressed by what they just did to
beat this guy four times in one year, twice in
a series and get him in a must win Game
five at home for the right.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
To go to the Alcs.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Do not dismiss how impressive this will be if they
pull this off tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
I mean, Trek Scuble would be calling the Seattle Mariners
the same thing that you always said to San Francisco
forty nine ers, Cal Russell.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Wilson, Daddy Daddy, dad dee.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
I mean, it will be four and zero if they
can get a win tomorrow against Scooble. And this detract
I keep going back to the stat Since the All
Star break, the Tigers were twenty eight and thirty seven.
They were twenty first in the e RA in the
OPS playoffs. In the second half of the baseball season,
got it, they were nineteenth and OPS, twenty first in
(24:06):
the RA, seventeenth and bullpen era with a nine game
under five hundred record, And they've kind of, honestly, they've
kind of showed to be a pretty mediocre team thus far,
except for about a three inning blast off of Bizarto
and Gabe Spier yesterday. I mean, it's I just feel
(24:26):
like we can take it. If if we can get
two runs, Yeah, in the first seven innings of this game,
I'm feeling incredible.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
If we can get one run, I still feel okay.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
But I think it's gonna be zero zero, one, zero,
one to one at the end of seven.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Problem, what's the what's the Tigers record this year? You
said overall? What's the record?
Speaker 3 (24:47):
The same as us r Where did they finish?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Are they a ninety one team, eighty seven and seventy five?
Eighty seven and seventy five. I'm gonna do some quick
math here for a little bit. So they were eighty
seven and seventy five on the year. Hang on a second,
tell the Joe Chris.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Well, I'll tell you that you mentioned the odds. Detroit
was minus one thirty two yesterday. They're minus won forty
four now. So the odds, the money is on the
Tigers right now. But what's interesting, guys, is that when
you look at the World Series Championship odds, the Mariners
are still favored over.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
The Tigers to win the World Series.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
That's how much Vegas thinks the Mariners are a better team,
so they can get by that one game.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
The Mariners have a better chance to win it all.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
No question, no question. But here's the thing about tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
So first of all, we have been saying for the
last couple of months, in the last couple of years,
just get in.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Anything could happen.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Well, the other side of anything can happen is the
Tigers beating you in Game five.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Mediocre teams beating an eighty.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Seven win team.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Now, they only won three less games than you did,
but they were terrible, as you said, in the second.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Half of the year.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
They're eighty seven wins because they had a great first half.
But I mean, Dick, this is the other side of that.
You play a five game series. If we're gonna say
anything could happen for the Mariners, then anything can happen
for the Tigers too.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Here's the deal.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
They were eighty seven and seventy five on the ear.
They were sixty six and sixty five without Trek Scooball
and twenty one and ten with him. So I think
you throw all of that out. I think you throw
out sixty six and sixty five. You throw out eighty
seven and sixty five, and you look at what this
Tigers baseball team is. Again, like I said yesterday, if
(26:22):
we're sitting here Andrews doing a Tiger's Honk show on
the air, now we're all Tiger fans.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Okay, Yeah, I'm saying, what do.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I care what the Tigers do without Terrek Scooball because
he's pitching tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, we were twenty one and ten with this guy.
We won twenty one to thirty one games. We won
two thirds of the time. Yeah, Tyrek Scruble pitched, I
would feel very confident if I were Tiger fans.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (26:43):
But in the other point that Dick was making about,
you know, they were terrible down the stretch of the season, Yes,
but they also won a playoff series. So right, if
you're a Tiger fan or a player or coach or anything,
all of what happened in the second half of the
season is out the door. Now you already won your series.
You've evened it up with the Mariners. It's one game
to continue it.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
And I'm not saying they can't win and missing right,
noris I just think this idea that we are so
much better than Detroit. Yes, I agree with that over
the course of six months. But I do think that
when you're talking about one game, this is a one
game series, and that's what we're talking about. Are they
so much better than Detroit tomorrow with Trek Scubele on
(27:23):
the mound? And I don't think that they are. I
think the Tigers with Tarrek Scuball tomorrow are a better
team than we are with Luis Castillo and George Kirby
coming out of the pen. Now, it doesn't mean that
Terrek won't have a bad day, doesn't mean the EMS
won't get to him. By the way, do you know
who has started every single game against Tarrek Scouble this
year for the Mariners? Luis Castile, every single one. He's
(27:45):
every single game and.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
He's starting again.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Let's go, let's keep it on.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
I think he should start tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
And by the way, I asked this question today in
the morning show, and I want to get both your
thoughts on this, guys. And this question came up at
seven o'clock in the morning. It's now almost five pm
and they haven't announced yet who's starting tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (28:02):
They playing mind games, That's what I'm do.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
We read anything into that at all? Meaning they've got
to know, right maybe they're seeing well.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
That would lean me to believe that they are seriously
considering Luis Castillo and they want to get far enough
away from Sunday to ask Luise, Hey, how you feeling, man?
How are you recovering from Sunday's outing? Because I mean,
because if it's if it was gonna be Kirby, then
don't you think they would have just announced that.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I think I think they know. I think they know
who's starting. I mean, I don't know. Maybe this is
a question for Jeff Nelson. He'll join us at six
o'clock and maybe by that time we'll know. By the way,
but how in the world could they be sitting here
twenty four hours and twenty minutes before first pitch tomorrow
Anders and the guy who's starting the game tomorrow doesn't
know he's starting.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
They know, I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
I agree.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
I think they know, and they would have told him
by now. And maybe it's one of those situations where
you know, you start, and you're go only going three
innings or two or three, and then you go to
the other guy and it's like right, So maybe there
is some sort of like who goes first sort of thing,
But yeah, I just think it has to be Louise
CASTI you, well.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I do agree with that, And I also do think
that the bullpen thing, you gotta be careful with that man,
especially for guys that.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Don't aren't used to it.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
You see what happened to Clayton Kershaw last night. Herby
has him throw y.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Herby's been there before.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I just I think personally, and I'm just telling you
right now, I'm not gonna throw a fit either way,
but I think personally I would go with the rock tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Yes, I think he deserves it.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
I have funny how we've gone from a guy who
you were Oh, I was worried about him in August.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
I was like, not sure that I wanted him to
pitch in the playoffs the way he pitched for five
or six outings there for the stretch of season. But
he turned it around in September and looked really, really
good down the stretch. I just think he gives you.
I think he fires the crowd us walking on the
mound in the first inning more than more than George
Kirby does.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
God bless George Kirby.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
But he doesn't have the fire that Luis Castile has,
and I think you need to fire the guys up this.
There's a situation where I totally agree with you. Trek
Scooble on the mound, Detroit has a better chance to win.
But he's only going six or seven innings. This is
a nine inning baseball game. If you can keep it
a one run game or an even game when Scoobale
exits the game, then you've got the advantage.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
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Speaker 4 (30:59):
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