Softy and Dick 12-16 H1: Seahawks Loss, Sam Howell Impressions, Fun with Audio.

How disappointing was that Seahawks loss against the Packers on SNF? What were the impressions of Sam Howell after coming in for Geno Smith? Fun with Audio.

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By the way, they suld have just kicked us all
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In college football, Wazoo quarterback Johnny Matteer leaving Washington State.

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He is officially in the transfer portal.

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Jake Dicker today saying they had an offer on the
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in Pullman. He's got two years of eligibilia left remaining
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Jeez USC quarterback Or Moss is transferring to Louisville. Cam
Davis has made it official to senior running back will
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out of the season.

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They broke about the Lions man losing to the Bills yesterday.
Today they announced they've lost running back David Montgomery for
the year with a sprained MCL. Defensive tackle a Lee
McNeil is also out with a torn ACL, and starting
cornerback Carlton Davis had a frackter jaw in the game
yesterday with Buffalo.

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Speaker 2 (03:18):
How is Kirk Cousins gonna get matched?

Speaker 3 (03:20):
I don't know by throwing fifteen interceptions in the first
fifteen drives of the game. I mean, I don't I
don't know what more you can do to get benched.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
He's freaking awful. Man. If they're not going to bench
him now, it may never happen.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
When is the last time, like a mega, mega rich
quarterback got benched Deshaun Watson? I guess right, I mean,
I guess that would be the only one. I can't
think of anybody. I think, can't think of anybody that
is in the upper upper echelon of making money at
the quarterback position and they just like sit him down.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
I don't know, but I like where you're thinking, because
this is another thirty seconds that we don't have to
talk about the Seahawks Packer game yesterday, So.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Talk what else is on your Let's talk about geometer.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
We'll get to that coming up later. I mean, this
is just unbelievable, dude. I thought the Seahawks would play
well in the game yesterday, I really did. I didn't
think they'd win the game overall, to be honest with you,
I thought they'd cover. I was able to get three
and a half when it was all said and done,
so I felt pretty good about my little stupid wager
on the game yesterday. But that was an absolute turd
from the start. I mean, we've had games as sports

(04:16):
fans in this town where you either walk into an
arena or you flip on the TV or walk into
a stadium or a baseball field, whatever, and you can
just tell from the very first play of the game,
this is not going to be our night. And from
the very first drive of the game it was not
their night. I mean, the Green Bay went from their
own thirty seven to the Seahawk thirty one in forty

(04:39):
five seconds fourteen fifty five mark to the fourteen to
ten mark of the first quarter.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
You had the big screen to Josh Jacobs.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
You had the stupid personal foul on Tarik wooland pushing
Jordan Love there worst game of his career, probably because
there's a lot more where that came from, by the way,
for him. And then obviously, you know they they take
the ball. I thought it was complete disrespect on the
part of Matt Lafloor to win the toss and say
we want the ball, we want the ball.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I was like, whoa, what do you got a defense
that's been kicking ass for a month. We don't give
a damn. We're gonna take the ball and we're gonna.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Shove it right down your fricking throat. And that's what
they did for the first two drives of the game.
I mean, my god, it was just unbelievable how they
just destroyed that Seahawk front seven. Anything Green Bay's offense
wanted to do, they did. The first Seahawk drive of
the game, the first play goes to DK Metcalf for
fifteen yards. You realize he has two catches on two

(05:34):
targets for thirteen yards in the next fifty four minutes
of that game. And oh, by the way, he had
an eight yard catch on the second drive that means
he had one catch on one target for five yards
in the final forty six minutes of that game yesterday.
I mean it was just a complete, absolute beating by
the Green Bay Packers and their fans in that stadium yesterday.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
I was with you. I expected a spirited performance.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
I expected a loss, but I expected a three point loss.
I didn't expect a rubbing of a seventeen point loss.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
But this was I mentioned this on Friday when you
were gone. I closed the show. Was I gone Friday?
I forgot geez.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
I closed the show by saying, simply, this show me
what you're made of. This is a show me what
you're made of game, Seahawks.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I don't think you're gonna win.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
I think you're a worse team than Green Bay, but
I think you're at least close enough to green Bay
that you will make this game respectable. And not only
did they not make it respectable, they made it a laugher.
As you just mentioned, from the start, this wasn't a game.
This wasn't like the Husky Iowa game where you're like, hey,
third quarter, this is you know, you're kind of playing

(06:45):
with these guys, and then you wear down and the
better team wins at the end. No, they just decided
to not make it a game from the very start,
and this is getting tiresome.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
I tweeted this out today.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
Here are their first quarter points on the season per game. Yeah,
three seventeen and then that's really fun. Zero seven zero
three zero zero three zero zero seventeen against Arizona and
then zero they are averaging on the first drive of
the game. So the first time the Seahawks have the ball,

(07:16):
they are averaging point eight six points. So if you said,
Ryan Grubb, I will give you an extra point. I
will let you be one to nothing up on your
opponent after your first drive, will you take it? And
of course every offensive coordinator in the world would say,
I'm not gonna take one point. You'd be better off
taking one point. Then you would be taking the Seahawks

(07:38):
drives for this season.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
I'd be curious to go back and look at those
numbers from the last couple of years and see how
different they are, because it just seems like that's been
a familiar theme for these guys, and not just under
Ryan Grubb and Mike McDonald, but also Pete Carroll and
Shane Waldron. So I don't want to do that exercise
right now because I don't want to smash my head
against the wall to be totally honest with you.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
But look, Dick, I mean, here's the deal.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
I don't think anything should be off the table right
now for this football team.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Anything.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
I do think overall, if I would have told you, though,
back in July, that these guys are going to be
eight and six on December the sixteenth and tied for
the NFC West League with a brand new head coach
and a brand new offensive coordinator, I think you probably
would have said that's probably right about where they should be,
right I mean, there's a game out there that they
should have won. It's the Giant Game, for certain, and

(08:26):
then they're a nine to five football team and they're
in first place right now. But this team's got a
real good shot still to win nine or ten games,
and I think all of us thought nine or ten
games would have probably put them in the playoffs back
in the offseason. So it's not just the fact that
you're losing. For me, I'm kind of echoing what you're
saying now, it's the fact that you're just getting your

(08:46):
ass kicks right, Like if you lose the Packer game
and you play hard, Okay whatever. Green Bays are a
really good team. You know, They've got a much more
mature system than you do, with their head coach and
their quarterback obviously, and they got a much better offensive
line than you. I lose to Green Bay, okay whatever.
But the fact that the lumenfield thing is now officially
totally gone. We've been tracking this now for a couple
of months, going back to COVID when the Fans got

(09:08):
shut out. The Fans came back in twenty twenty one.
In the last thirty three games, the Seahawks are sixteen
and seventeen. There's no more home field advantage anymore. And
I don't know if do we ask Collin Tworth about
that on Thursdays show. I don't think we did, because
he brought it up on the broadcast yesterday that it's
hard to play here, blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Is it really Is it really hard to play here still?

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Or is that just something that we just like to
say because we're bred to say something like that, because
we're used to saying things like that, because we're brainwashed
into saying things like that. There's nothing intimidating about Lumenfield anymore.
And you know, honestly, I don't blame the fans one bit.
To me, the fan base is always a reflection of
the product on the field. Okay, in general terms, Yes,

(09:50):
there's gonna be a couple of spots in colevide sports
the professional sports where.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
But for the most part, generally speaking, the fan base
sun gamed is going to be a reflection of what
the team is all about. And they've been getting destroyed
at home. What is they're intimidating about lumen Field?

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Nothing?

Speaker 4 (10:08):
And you know, I saw a sign last night when
I was actually I saw it this morning when I
was rewatching the game, and it says, one day.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
I'll be able to see the Packers at Lambeau.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
I did see that, and that reminded me how hard
it is for Packer fans to go to home games
because those games just simply aren't available, right, And that's
one of the reasons why Packer fans invade road stadiums
because they can't get into their home stadium.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
It's the hardest place to get tickets out.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
So I mean, you've got especially people that live away
from Green Bay might as well just fly to Seattle,
buy a semi cheap ticket compared to what it would
cost a fly to Green Bay and get into that
stadium and and just you know, go in there and
invade the city. And it was probably what seventy thirty
Hawks fans, But by the time it was all said
and done, all the Hawks fans had left, so it

(10:57):
was seventy thirty Packer fans.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yeah, and when you're getting your ass kick, the majority
of the noises coming from them, So it feels like
a Packer home game.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
But I mean, like I don't know how to track this.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
I mean, I would think there's a lot more Packer
fans that were at the game yesterday that actually live
here locally in Seattle. I mean, there's Packer clubs and
they get together and they blubb with Vikings do the
same thing. So maybe if there's you know, I don't know,
give me twenty thousand Green Bay fans or fifteen thousand
Green Bay fans, I wouldn't be surprised if ten thousand
of them actually live here honestly, or in the region.

(11:26):
You know, the PNW. But that's got to change. And
it's the same attitude the Seahawks have got to have
the same attitude that I want John stand to have
when it comes to when the Blue Jays come to town. Now,
it's different in baseball because you play eighty one games.
I get it, but that would piss me off. If
I were Jody Allen, if I were John Schneider, if
I were any executive with the Seahawks yesterday, I would

(11:49):
do exactly what I've been begging John Stanton to do
every time the Blue Jays leave Seattle, which he will
never do. And I will call a meeting on Monday
and say, what do we have to do to make
sure that never happens again?

Speaker 2 (12:00):
What do we do? What do you need from me?

Speaker 3 (12:02):
And obviously in the NFL, it's not about just offering
money because everybody.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Plays by the same salary capitals.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
But what do we do to make sure that that
never happens again? Or do whatever we can do to
make sure that never happens again. We saw it with Buffalo,
we saw yesterday with the Packers and the Seahawks just
getting destroyed at home.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
And I gotta be totally honest with you, man.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
We can talk all you want about grubbing the line
and Gino and all that stuff is totally warning and
we'll get to it. But some of the effort, and
it's not very often that I call out effort for
players because I think it's really hard to figure out
how much of this is effort and desire and want
to It's really hard to gauge sometimes things like that.
But the effort by Treek Woolen or sorry, Reek Wolan.

(12:45):
You know what, maybe I'll pull a Dick fan and
call him until he deserves to be called Reek. But
until that guy shows me a little bit of a
better effort on some of these plays, it's absolutely warranted
to question whether or not this guy deserves a second contract.
I mean the second Packer drive the touchdown to Dobbs, right,

(13:08):
Romeo Dobbs. You know what I thought about when I
saw Tarik Woollan on that play, and I think it
was Jordan Love as well.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
I thought about Jamal Adams.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
I said, we haven't seen an effort from a cornerback
like that or a defensive back sorry because he played
safety since Jamal Adams was in town. I don't know
what the hell Treik Wolan was doing on that play.
I mean, they are gain tackling that guy Dick at
the four fricking yard line. Look at that right there
at the four yard line to each a five yard line.

(13:38):
He's trying to smack the ball, he's trying to pull him,
he's trying to do something everything but make a tackle.
And I gotta be honest with you, and I'm trying
to come up with a respectful word to describe the
performance on that play by Tarik Woolan, But it was
almost like he was kind of borderline stupid on that play,
literally dumb as.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
A defensive back. I mean, my god.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
I guess I can call him something else, maybe get
yelled at by somebody, but it was like he just
lost his.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Brain, Like what are you doing, dude?

Speaker 3 (14:08):
The pi He's got no idea where the football is
on that play to the sideline there to the that
that that that deep shot later in the game, about.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
The one where he's still backpedaling in the ball.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
My god, terrible, just terrible. Honestly, It's like the guy
doesn't give a damn. And I know that that's not
the case. I I mean, I assume he gives a damn,
but he didn't show me yesterday.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
And then he had the audacity and the play I'm
talking about was you You watch him continue to back
pedal and watch the ball go right over his head
for a great catch on the sideline, and then he
had the audacity to turn the official and say, how
about a push? How about offensive pass interference? I went
back and watched the replay. I was like, you weren't
close enough to the receiver to even have him touch

(14:46):
you for an offensive pass interference?

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Well, this, this just might be the point in my
life where I'm just getting to be a crotch at
the old guy, you know. And some of the way
the the ways that people respond to this stuff, and
the ways that fans respond to it, in the ways
that players respond to it, in the way that some
people in the media allow these players to respond to it,
it just absolutely makes me freaking sick.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Dude. It makes me nauseous.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Like I'm looking at at Tarique on Twitter today and
he put a tweet out like two hours ago with
all the love comal the hate keep stacking onto the
next Like, no, dude, shut up, go on social media
and say, you know what, all the criticism I'm receiving
is fair. I need to play better. And I will
that's it.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Own it.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
And the players today that don't have the brains or
the balls to own their own mistakes and like to
blame other people, or they like to blame circumstances. They're
like to blame social media, or they blame the fan base.
Just my god, can you show a little bit of accountability?
I mean, is that like a lost guard?

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Here? Am I just too freaking old for this? Now?
I'm fifty one years old.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
I'll be fifty two in August, and I'm waiting for
people just to show some damn accountability.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Gino Smith showed accountability.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Earlier in the year when he went to the It's
on me and that's a leader coaches Mike McDonald showing accountability, man,
I mean, it's just it makes me nuts how these
players just refuse to do that, and they just I
don't know, they just want their asses kissed by everybody.
They weren't raised like that, They have no idea how
to speak like that. It makes me freaking nuts.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
They're just an incredibly frustrating football team to watch. And
I know You've been on me all year. Will, Why
are you so negative? Why are you so negative about this?
This is why I'm so negative. They're just a frustrated
They're not a likable football team.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
And I'm not talking about their personalities. That's a likable guys.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
Yeah, they just are very hard to like because they
are complete, unbelievably unpredictable as to what type of team
you're gonna get on a week to week basis. And
that was the one thing I really liked about the
Pete Carroll era is I knew, I knew I wasn't
always gonna win the football game, but I always knew
what kind of effort I was gonna get. I always

(16:56):
knew what kind of game was gonna be. It was
gonna be close, it was gonna be low scoring, was
gonna be physical, is gonna.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Be hard fun.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
They have lost five games already by two or more
scores in the first fourteen. They only lost six combined
in the last two years.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
By peeking right, Well, first of all, I don't care
if you're negative or not. We're just gonna disagree on
some stuff, and that's fine. We'll disagree on play calling
every now and then and things like yeah, because you're
the snow globe man, if there's globe, if I can't
rely on you to be the snow globe, then who
can I rely to be the snow globe. There's nobody
else that will be the snow globe. You have to

(17:29):
be the snow globe. You have to be the north
star in our lives, and if you're not there, then
we're freaking lost. But I get it, man, I mean, look,
you know the whole Ryan Grubb thing. Look, I I
want this to work with Ryan Grubb, but if it's
not gonna work, then he'll be let go and they'll
move on. I mean, I'm gonna talk to Hugh at
four o'clock today. I'm gonna ask him. I was having
a conversation with you off the ear. It's like, do
we really think there's a chance that Mike McDonald moves

(17:52):
on from Ryan Grub? Like, we're probably not, but there's
a fIF there's a fifteen to twenty percent.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
It's not zero, right, it's it's it's not nothing.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
Do try to give them an offensive line before they
decide what I think they will as well.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
I think they will as well, But I think in
the end it's something that needs to be talked about.
As much as I love Ryan and as much as
I love Scott Huff as much as I love what
those guys did at you Dub. If it's not working,
it's not working, and it might not be working because
of other factors that don't involve them, by the way,
like the personnel that they've got.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
I mean, guys, I.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Know you think it's a broken record. I know you
think it's a broken record. I heard you say last
night in the postgame show. You think blame me. The
offensive line is a cop out. I don't think it's
all the offensive line, but I think it's pretty damn
close to being all the offensive line. I think it's
eighty five ninety percent. And I just think everything that
we talk about, like, for example, there's a play got
where is it it was?

Speaker 4 (18:42):
I think while you were looking that up, I think
I think Gino's still making stupid, it own decisions.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Not the offensive line is good or not, no question,
that's just a question.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Right set the second Seahawk drive, Uh, you had a
hold on OLU on Slayton thirteen, but Gino finds JSN
for twenty five and you get to the forty eight
yard line. Sharberny has the long run and you get
to the thirty two if I have my play by
play right, there was a play they gave the ball

(19:12):
to Zach Sharberning on second and one, which they should
have done, and aj Barner just totally misses a block,
completely whiffs on a block. And then the next play
they give him a sack on a four man rush
on a forour man rush, and he's got Zach Sharberney
right in the outlet and he just ignores him and
just takes a sack. I mean, you can't do stuff
like that, right, So I just think, look, guys, the

(19:35):
Seahawks are starting to go through coordinators and offensive lineman
like the Mariners go through hitting coaches, and the cycle
has got to end.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
It's got to stop.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
So we can sit here all we want, and we
can talk about whacking coordinators, and we can talk about
replacing quarterbacks. It's time to get serious about the damn
offensive line. Because nobody gets second contracts around here, nobody
gets big money d around here. The offensive line that
we thought we were gonna see in July is nowhere
near the offensive line that we're seeing right now. He

(20:07):
end up signing a guy that retires halfway through the season.
For God's sakes, all that talk about Christian Haynes. I mean,
he can't even find a field. He's a healthy scratch
again yesterday for the game. It's pathetic. And this is
why Melon's going off on Schneider. This is why people
are starting to lose their patients with John, and guys,
look before the break, just real quick. John's legacy in

(20:27):
Seattle is secure no matter what happens the rest of
the way. His name is in granted in Seattle for
what he's done. But he's got to prove he can
build this thing from the inside out. And he's never
been able to do that. And if he can't do
it from the inside out, that he's better go damn
well find another Russell Wilson or a legion of Boom,

(20:48):
and good luck doing that. So I get the frustration,
and it's amazing to me how last night's game. I
don't know if it was just what Hugh was saying
on the air, what other people were saying, it felt
to me like last night the criticism and the finger
of blame and the ire from the populace really started
to shift towards the front office because they got demolished

(21:12):
on the line of scrimmage last night by that Packer
football team. We'll come back and talk more about this
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(21:33):
five o'clock. You see this news about Devondre Campbell, the
guy that quit the other day for the Niners. Everyone's
calling to just cut his ass, get rid of him.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
What.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
I love what the Niners are doing with him, suspending him, Yes,
because it keeps him in the news. It barrasses the
hell out of him. If they cut him, they can
move on whatever it's done. But the fact that this
guy's got to sit out now he's suspended for three games.
There's people like Shannon Sharp going on TV talking about
how come he wasn't cut blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
This would have old news. They would have cut him,
it would have moved on, It would have been done,
but not to be a story three weeks. This way,
he needs to wear it right.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
And the Niners are likely not making the playoffs obviously
unless they go on a huge Jordan. A lot of
things happen, but he gets to wear it for three weeks.
I think it's perfect, good for them.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
It's just I don't understand the whole Antonio Brown de
Andre camp Like leaving the field, quitting on your football team.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
I just easy. He's a nut job. He's easy, yeah, right.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
But I mean, is there something wrong with Devon don
Andre Campbell to make him do this? There's something going
wrong with him too, because I don't know how in
your right mind can you decide I don't want to
play for my teammates.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Well, there's something going on behind the scenes that we
don't know about.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
And I don't say this lightly or as with sarcasm
or a there's something wrong with him, like mentally wrong
with it. Honestly, that's what he might be fighting, something
we don't know about.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Personally.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
I had no idea whatever what he's doing in his
personal life, but or he told something, or he's not
gonna along with his coaches or teammates, whatever. But I
just like the fact that this guy got suspended for
three weeks and now he's gotta wear this every day
during a suspension. So yesterday I don't know. I mean,
where do you want to start, Dick. Sam Howe comes
in looks terrible. Do you remember the conversation we had

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the day the Seahawks traded for Sam Holle. Remember where
we were that day, correct, We were at Climate Pledge
Arena when the deal came down. We had the guy
on from Washington who came on the air, Oh, Sam
Hell's great, blah blah blah, and selling him you gotta
gotta go.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
And you said this last night on the postgame show.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
I totally agree it's appropriate to say that it's a
little bit unfair to judge him based on last night.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
He's not getting any reps.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
He comes in cold, and he looks awful against a
really good defensive front with a bat offensive line. So
if he does start Sunday versus Minnesota, we'll get a
little bit of a better gauge of what the guy's
all about. But I remember on that day, and I
don't know what your take was, or Jackson saying, look,
you want trade for Sam Howe, trade for Sam Hell.
But whatever the Seahawk plans are quarterback, Remember this is

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before the draft. Nothing should change because they have Sam
Howe and you're telling me that we're gonna now pass
on a quarterback. And in the end didn't matter because
everybody was gone by the time the Hawks picked at sixteen.
But were they thinking about trading up for somebody? And
they pulled back because they had Sam Howe? And I

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just remember just saying, are we nuts here with this?
I mean, the guy led the league in picks, for
God's sakes a year ago? What the hell about Sam Howe?
Should we look at and think we should say no
to bow Nix or Michael Pennix or Jayden Daniels or
anybody because you have Sam Howe.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
And I think that was kind of confirmed a little bit.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Yesterday with the way he played, and for as much
crap as Gino's been taking, and a lot of it
fairly so, by the way, especially in the red zone.
If Geno Smith is done, they're done. They're done. Of course,
if Sam How's their guy, we can agree on that, right.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
My Doug.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
Enough, Geno's not done. How they like to like they
gotta win three games in a row. I think there's
a roster building element about this, and there's a quarterback
breakdown element, and Hugh does the quarterback breakdowns. And Hugh,
as we will talk to at four o'clock, is not
a big fan of Sam Howell in his future, So
I will trust that over everything I'm about to say

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about the roster building part of it. I think we
talked about. The roster building part was that Sam Howell
is the same age as rookie quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
This year.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
Sam Holl just turned twenty four years of age. So
it's not like, I mean, you can compare Sam Howell
to rookie quarterbacks because he's the same age. It's not
like Sam Howl is a three or four year backup
in the NFL that's twenty eight, twenty seven to twenty eight,
and we're keeping him instead of drafting a quarterback. They're
basically I think that's probably one of the reasons they

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didn't draft a quarterback, maybe a major reason they didn't
draft a quarterback in last year's draft, because they're like, hey,
we just essentially with a draft pick, drafted a twenty
three three year old quarterback that's got a year's experience
starting in the NFL, which none of these drafted quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
Have well I think that's ludicrous if that's what they did.
I'm not saying you're wrong, by the way, I'm not
saying if that's what they did.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Too, But I'm just saying that if that's a potential scenario.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
You will be ludicrous. We have an hour and fifteen
minutes left. I just think if that's the case, then
that's that's crazy, absolute crazy talk. Because the one thing
that you had on Sam Howell that you did not
have on those college quarterbacks was a year of tape
in the National Football League when the guy led the
league in interceptions and look, I know he came here
a year ago and look, okay, against the Seahawks he

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led yards to right.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
But like, yeah, because he threw the ball five thousand times.
I mean, we're giving Gino credit for leading? Are we?
Are you giving Gino credit for leading the league? Hear
all the time it's like Gino Smith number one in
the NFL. They don't care.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
I think that's people that don't know the context of
the situation. But if you're telling me that the Seahawks
had plans to move up and get a quarterback and
pulled back because they have Sam Howe, that's nonsense, or
if they had a quarterback that they liked and passed
on them because they had Sam Howe.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
That's crazy, crazy talk.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
I mean, that's like, honestly, that's falling asleep at the wheel.
That's a fireable offense for me. In some ways. We're
gonna pass on a guy here, We're gonna pass on
a guy there, We're gonna say no to a trade
here because we got Sam friggin Howe. I mean, that
is a god. I really hope, Dick, that that's not
the case. And I don't know how to prove it
or not prove it, right, We may never know, but
I really really hope that that is not the case.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Because here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
I will also say this that everybody comparing Sam Howe
to Gino Smith, that's the wrong conversation to have. This
was never about Geno versus Sam Howe. It was about
Geno Smith versus the own known of what else may
be out there at the quarterback position. Of course, Gino
is better than Sam Howe. All of us agree on that.
We're not gonna sit here and judge the Seahawks starting

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quarterback by Sam Howe standards. We're judging the Seahawk quarterback
by championship standards, an elite playing and if you feel
you can get a guy that's better than Gino, then
go look at it. That's fine with the Seahawks need
for me simply put his two things. Number one's the obvious,
a better offensive line, so good luck with that. And
the number two is they need to have their future

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at quarterback in the house. When was the last time,
Dick the Seahawks had their future at quarterback? Walk in
that sideline, watching film in that in that facility twelve
years ago? Okay, that's it's enough enough, right And the
guy's name is Russell Wilson. That's right, twelve years ago.
So I don't care if it's if it's a draft

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this year, or a trade or a free agent whatever
they really are in love with, or a guy from
the god darn Canadian Football League.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Get the future at quarterback.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
And if that future doesn't play until you're three, like
Jordan Love didn't play until you're three, I'm fine with that.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
But get the future home, bring the future to the vmat.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
You have to do it right now, and I don't
think you're gonna be able to do it in the
first round, because I just don't think there. I think
those guys are gonna be gone unless you really want
to sacrifice, you know, your next three first round picks
and go up and get a guy that you think
may be the next guy, a shredor Sanders or what
have you. I think what they're gonna have to do

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is they're gonna have to find another Russell Wilson type
draft pick. They're gonna have to find another guy that's
the fiftieth to eightieth pick in the draft and say
this is our guy. We are gonna bring him up
under Geno Smith, and he is gonna be our future guy,
and treat him like Jordan Love, because I don't think.
I don't think Jordan Love would be Jordan Love if

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he started all the day one, Jordan Love would be
just like all these others dudes.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
They get thrown out into the fire too early.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
I think Jordan Love is Jordan Love mainly because he
sat behind Aaron Rodgers as long as he did well
last year.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
I'm looking at last year's draft. There was one two, three, four,
five six quarterback sorry taken in the first two off picks.
The next quarterback was not drafted until the fifth round
Ratler and that was Spencer Ratler, and then Jordan Travis
from Florida State, and then Joe Milton Tennessee went to
the Patriots.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
So there was a big gap.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
I have no idea what it looks like this next year,
but I'm totally with you all this talk to the
Seahawks can't find their next quarterback because they're not going
to be picking in the top ten.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
I mean, dude, the best four or five quarterbacks in
franchise history.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Matt Hasselback was what a sixth rounder? Russell Wilson third rounder.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Dave Craig was an undrafted free agent from some piece
of crap school.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
From the middle of nowhere.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
Warren Moon went undrafted, had to go to Canada, Okay,
Jim Zarne went to cal Poly.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Jean Kidnap. I mean, guys, what are we doing here?

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Like, do we not know our own history that the
only way we can find a quarterback is they have
a top ten pick. Are you guys done the bid?
Did you forget the way this franchise has done this
for fifty.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
Years and the high quarterbacks? Damn maguire right, Rick Meyer right?
I mean, while did draft a quarter Kelly Staffer, that's right,
and you did draft a quarterback they flamed out.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
I don't need a first round quarterback. I don't need
a top ten quarterback. What I need is the next quarterback,
and that means working your ass off to find the guy.
And it also means working your ass off to give
him a successful situation to land in first That means
fixing the offensive line.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
So I could see.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Them drafting a young guy, keeping Gino around on his
current deal, or extending him to a you know whatever,
middle of the road contract like you and I have
talked about drafting that guy and then hopefully spending two
to two and a half years building an offensive line
so by the time that kid is ready to play,
Gino's contract is expiring and the offensive line is ready
to roll. My concern is that they can't do it.

(31:39):
That's my concern. My concern is that they can't build
an offensive line.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Well, they haven't shown the ability.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
I mean, they have to do what you suggested and
just go get an offensive line whisperer, a guy that
can whisper into John Schneider, Mike McDonald's deer on draft day.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
This is your guy. That's right. Take it right now? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Well, I mean, those guys don't grow on trees. And
if they haven't found that guy already, why would they
find it now. I don't have any trust that John
Schneider can build an offensive line.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
I'm sorry, I don't. You shouldn't. I just don't.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
You should have no more trust that you can build
an offensive line than you do in Jerry Depoto.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
They can find a free age well.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
And that's concerning because if that's the if that's the
reality that we are dealing with a GM that can't
build an offense in the majors and a GM that
can't build an offensive line in the NFL, then neither
team will ever win ever. Neither team will ever win
consistently or contend again for a championship if those two

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things don't get fixed.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
Because we won a super Bowl kind of in spite
of the offensive line.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Like it was open.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
They were the highest paid offensive line in the NFL.
But they were they were decent. They weren't horrible, they
weren't a problem. They weren't a problem, right, I mean,
they were probably the worst unit on the football they were,
but the other units were pretty freaking good right. I
mean when you had Russell Lakung and he had Breno
and you had Robbie ty Max, I mean, my god.

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I mean those guys were they were They were not elite,
but they weren't terrible. They were probably above average. And
when you have a quarterback running around like a crazed animal,
back there like a chicken with his head cut off,
and you have the maybe the most physical running back
in the history of the NFL, or one of them,
you can get away with it. So I just don't
trust that these guys can do it. And it makes
me fearful that it's never gonna happen again with this

(33:24):
guy as the GM because he can't prove he can
build a damn line. We're got a break fun with
audio next two million at four on ninety three three
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Speaker 2 (33:35):
It's now time for some day in Dick's one with audio.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Jimmy Gawn Star, Jimmy mister Daropolo.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Now let's have some fun with audio.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
We got Bears Vikings coming up at five o'clock.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
We got hum Millin coming up four o'clock, the son
of them. I sat there and go, is this lie
a little more?

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Four with Hugh h He've been on the air a
couple of times today, but I just feel like there's
more there.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
So we'll get more at four with Humili coming up
on a matter of minutes.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Plenty, He's got plenty, plenty of plenty, all right, a
little fun with audio slash.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Hey did you hear that? Hey, Dick? Did you happen
to hear that? What's that? Dick?

Speaker 3 (34:09):
We start in college football? The news breaking this morning
the quarterback Johnny Matteer would leave Washington State enter the
transfer portal. All signs obviously head to him going to
Oklahoma and hookup with Ben Arbuckle.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
Was you?

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Head coach Jake Dicker spoke to the media today about
Mateer's decision and what it means for the program moving forward.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
You know, met with John last night.

Speaker 5 (34:31):
He came back from his sister's graduation, had a lot
of good family time. Then we talked about that last
week on Friday. He has to make a big decision
for his life, and college football is in a different
place than it was five years ago, ten years.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Ago, however, we remember it.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
You know, John will be the most sought after player
in the portal. I think he's gonna be the best
player in the country next year, and he formed.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Us that he is. In fact when he hit the portal.
The faz thing for our program is it crves once again.
Our process is working.

Speaker 5 (34:58):
Our process is working right offering a bunch of kids
that have no other power five offers. We're developing into
something really, really special. And I've said a lot about
things the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
You know, I talked to.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
Signing Day about the recruiting calendar being messed up and
we got to change it.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
You know, I talked last Friday.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
You know, there's eight hundred million of new power for
you know, rev Share money that's infiltrated into the system
right now, and you know backups that at that level
are getting fifty to one hundred thousand. So college football
is in a little bit of a weird place.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
So the first thought that I had, and I wonder
what you guys thought when you heard him say it's
proof that our process is working.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
I thought two things.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Number one, what's your process to be a farm team
for the rest of college football?

Speaker 2 (35:39):
That's exactly what he's saying.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
And then number two, it almost sounds like he's marketing
himself as a coach saying, hey, I develop kids. I
bring in guys that nobody else wants, and I turn
them into players that everybody else in college football covets.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Like Johnny Macteer and cam Ward.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
By the way, I think it was an incredibly savvy
response because I think he is saying everything that you
just said. Yeah, I know how to take a kid
from incarnate word yes and turn him into what are
you get in the Heisman?

Speaker 3 (36:12):
I don't know, And he may have come in under
roll of Itch. I gotta go back and think that through.
But the point is he was there with Dickard for sure,
exactly yes.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
And the same thing from John Matier.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
I mean, he can take a guy that you know
he's had the whole time, but he can turn him
into a top five six quarterback in college football this year.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
I mean, whether it was intentional or not, it certainly
came off as a guy that was promoting himself. Well,
you don't think he's gonna to the rest of college football? No, No,
I think he's gonna eventually leave and take off and
go somewhere else. But I think Wazoo. I genuinely feel
bad for the fans I mean, I don't think Cougar
fans have any delusions a grandeur about competing with schools
like Oklahoma for the nil world. I mean, there's only

(36:51):
so many resources they've got, and if somebody's coming in
doubling what you're offering, going from one to two million,
they're done forget about it, man. But this is sign
of the times. And again, if I were a Couiter fan,
I a lot of my buddies are Kook fans. If
I were a Coouiter fan, I gotta be honest with you, guys,
there's a big part of me that'll be done with
all this. I would be so pissed off about what's
happened to my school and my program and my team

(37:13):
and my roster that I would just consider being done
all together with the whole damn thing.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
Well, you said, You've said it a million times. The
Cougar's only beat the Huskies when the Huskies are in
a state of flux.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
Good to see that. Cougars that are going to be
in the state of flux next year.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
So the run of wins, and.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
You should have told me I would have had these
Oh boy, look at this guy just kicking them while
they're down, kicking them right the neck on the ground.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
Cougar fans have pissed me off, Yeah, any other year,
So she rack but squirting from their neck, and fame
just comes up and boom right in the freaking ribs.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
I don't care if the ambulance isn't here yet. Boom
writing a freaking ahead, just kicking them while they're down,
man mountain Wise, Alright, Hey, whoa another one? Another shot?
All right, hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?

Speaker 2 (38:00):
What's that? Dick man? Let's just get some text. Let's
go with number one there Andrews.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
After their win versus the Giants on Sunday, LaVar Jackson
was asking his postgame press conference about a moment that
was caught on video when he was scrambling first first
down and his pants began a fartun.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
The video is awesome. Go ahead.

Speaker 6 (38:25):
Look he was asking me that, So I'm like, I
felt like wind was touching my butt, you know. So
I was trying to keep my tights up for real,
Like the tights just like gotta lot loose some whole news.
So I like just kind of keep my pants up.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
That's all.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
It was it was too cold.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
That is gonna be the first and only time in
a press conference a football player has said I've felt.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
The wind to touch my butt.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Yeah, you know, I gotta be honest with you, man.
My pants fall down all the time, all the time,
especially on the golf course. My friends are always busting
my balls because I'm always adjusting.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
My pants and my thoughts. I don't know what it
is like. You know what I think it is.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Honestly, I think I'm at an age where I need
to start considering wearing suspenders.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
I'm not kidding, man.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
I mean when you think of suspenders, what do you
think of You think of your grandfather?

Speaker 2 (39:16):
That's what you're thinking of you. I think I need
to start wearing suspenders. Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Let's I need them. I read it might be on
my Christmas list next year. Holy crap, I need I
just realized that Softy needs suspenders. Three point fifty six.
Hugh Mellon might need him too. He's up next a
little more four with Hugh coming up on ninety three
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