December 18, 2025 • 30 mins
Mike Holmgren joins to help preview the massive game between the Seahawks and Rams. Rick Neuheisel from CBS Sports joins the show to preview the CFP.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
The you knows there you go live from Jimmy's on
First getting ready for the Hawks and Rams tonight. Cracking
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
The injury reports are officially out. Davante Adams not gonna play.
Oh rah, that's a shame. Charles Cross not gonna play
for the Seahawks. But you already knew that. Seahawks and
Rams coming up tonight. Uh hearing that Chad Brown and
Darryl Jackson are on the twelve man flag tonight for
Seahawks fans.
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Speaker 2 (00:52):
I hope that doesn't happen. Uh Packers Chicago coming up
this weekend. Romadoonze Luther Burden wide receivers both out for Chicago,
and how about this, Josh Jacobs and Christian Watson are
both questionable for Green Bay Colts.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Designated quarterback Anthony Richardson return from the IR, giving him
twenty one days to be activated. He's been out since
October after suffering an orbital fracture when a training band
snapped and hit him in the eye.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
And some sad news to report today.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Vancouver, Washington native Greg Biffle Nascar Starr, his wife Christina,
and his two children, fourteen year old son and five
year old daughter, along with three other people were killed
in a train or a plane crash today in North
Carolina as they left Florida for the Bahamas. Very very
sad news. Greg Biffle and family are gone. Greg Biffle
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dead at the age of fifty five years old. Let's
get to Mike Holmgren joining us right now.
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Speaker 2 (02:19):
Right, we're back big thanks for the five twenty bar
and Grail in Bellevue for normally having us on, but
with the Seahawk game today at home, we are over
at Jimmy's on First across the street from Loomenfield, So
that means that we don't get to see Mike Congrin's
face in person and know he's very, very disappointed that
he's not with us in person here at Jimmy's on First.
Our friend Mike hom Grin joined us right now via
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the telephone.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
How are you man?
Speaker 5 (02:43):
I'm good, guys, and I am disappointed. Hi. In fact,
I feel real bad right now.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Can you imagine what this place would be like if
Mike Holmgren walked in right now?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
They were channing his name about an hour ago. Well
let's talk about this one. This is a big one,
coach tonight. Games like this, you know, this late in
the year, for the division championship and NFL prestige, number
one overall seeds.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Things like that.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Tell me about what you think is happening in that
locker room right now, just about an hour and ten
minutes before tonight's game.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Well, everyone's trying to leave the coaches first of all,
or I was. I was trying to calm down, get
in my office. No one bothered me, no one could
talk to me. Just think about I'm going to call
the game and things like that. But there is a
feeling in there and the players this is this is
a bigger game. You say every game is the same,
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it's not. This is a game. And in that locker
room right now, they are They're walking around, they're putting
on their equipment, they're thinking about what they have to do.
They know how important the football game is to them.
And you can sense it. If you walked in there
and just looked around as a visitor, you could sense
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that they I'm not saying tention by the atmosphere, so.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
As your pre game speech different then, or do you
just kind of let the tension speak for itself.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
You know what, I used to let the tension speak
for it, Celf Dick, you know, I you know, of
course you remind him of what's at stake, you know,
but you don't have to remind them. They know. But
I mean, I always thought that was part of my
job to remind him. But there's not a lot to
say at that point. You said most of it already
and now it's just a matter of getting them focused.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Well, I mean there's a couple of big ones tonight.
Let's start in the offense for the Seahawks. Charles Cross
not going to play left tackle. I'm trying to remember
how many games you coached without Walter Jones at left tackle,
but it can't be a lot. What do you do
tonight if you're a Clint Kubiak, Mike McDonald, how does
it affect your play calling when you don't have your
left tackle here?
Speaker 5 (04:48):
You know, that's a great question, and I did live
through that once, not with Seattle, but in Green Bay.
We played the Giants against Michael Strahan and our right
tackle with dirt and a guy, a good backup player,
but it was going to be a disaster. It was
just not going to work. So we had to double
him every single time. And it takes stuff away from
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your offense. It does. Now, Mike and and Clint might
they might look at it differently. They might say, Josh
comes in and we listen, we're gonna let it rip,
you know, that's that's the thing. The Mike McDonald says,
let it rip. They might do that, but it's going
to be different, you know. But this guy, he's ready
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to play, I think. But there's a reason he's where
he is in the lineup. And Cross has been very,
very good for the team. And so you probably start
out regularly, you start out just calling your game, and
then all of a sudden you're having somebody watch that
watch that tell me what's happening over there. And then
if if there is, if it's not working, then you
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have to make adjustments. You know, maybe chip and double
and move the tight end over there and things like that.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Coach tell us, do you think Clint Kubiak kind of
held back play calling over the last four weeks, knowing
he had four extremely winnable games sandwiched in between two
RAMS games. How much do you think he's saved for tonight?
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Diket would surprise me if he saved anything. Honestly, you know,
I think when you go in, you know, you look
like I've said it before, you look at every game
and it's a game you want to win, and it's
the game you're focused on right now. You're not thinking
about next week or two weeks from now. And you know,
but they have started off slow in the last couple
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of ball games. But I don't attribute that to his
how he looked at how he was going to call
the game and how he's going to do it. It's
just the way they did it, and then they made
adjustments at halftime and it changed. But I would be
very surprised. In fact, I don't believe that happens.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Gotcha, Well, Mike congruns with us, and Mike you mentioned
the slow starts. I want to ask you about that.
And also red zone touchdown percentage. I mean, I just
kind of feel like in twenty twenty five, if your
opponent gets inside the twenty and you hold them to
a three, that's a win for the defense man. In
this day and age in football, so red zone touchdowns
have been kind of few and far between, a little
bit for this football team lately, anything you're seeing on
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the offensive side of the ball that you would tweak
a little bit, if anything, to maybe get these guys
to be a little more productive inside the red zone. Hell,
they won a game without scoring a touchdown last week
for got six.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Yeah I know, but tonight I think they're going to
need more than that. But I would like to see
them And this is my philosophy, and maybe it's not
the way Mike wants to do things, but that you
get inside the red zone and you got a field
goal in your pocket. It's there. So wherever you are
first and ten, now I'm going for the end zone.
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I'm going for the end zone. I'm not going for
first downs. I don't want first goal to go at
the nine. I want to score a touchdown, you know,
from twenty to eighteen whatever, wherever I am in the
red zone. And so that's what I would do. And
then so I was the whole I would like to
see that some chances take them like that. They know
they got the field goal, you know, so shoot for
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it and tell the team that in the red zone preparation, Hey,
this is what we're going to do. You're gonna going
to throw the ball to you. You get open, You're
going to score a touchdown. This guy you now you're next,
And just teach it that way.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
How wendy does it have to be before you alter
a your play calling and b how far you decide
to let Jason Myers kick field goals?
Speaker 5 (08:30):
You know what, I think it's going to be wendy tonight.
So that will that will be a factor in the game.
Just how windy it is. I don't know you guys
are down there, but it's it's going to be a
factor in the game. And it does affect your play calling.
It does affect the type of throw you do. It
affects your the length you can kick a field goal
or a punt or whatever. You know. And I've told
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you before I was in a game like that in Chicago,
and our punters on both teams, good punters, you know,
kick beautiful spirals up into the two of them came
back beyond the line of scrimmage. Wow, behind the line
of scrimmage. He was so windy. It was bad Halloween night,
and but fortunately we won.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah, Mike, I just wonder put yourself in Sean mcvay's shoes.
Not that you're frightened of anything. I mean, that's ridiculous.
Like nobody on this field tonight is frightened of anything.
But this was a head coach in Sean McVay that
beat the Seahawks by two points last time they played,
and the Hawks threw four interceptions and they were still
a sixty one yard field goal away from winning the game.
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I mean, that's how close they came to winning that
game with four picks. If you're Sean McVay, are you thinking, man,
we got to step up because we can't rely on
four picks again tonight.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
No, that's exactly what he's thinking, Dave. Honestly, he's he's
he knows, he knows the Seahawks are a good team.
It's a huge rival and the idea, you know, everyone says, well,
the Rams beat the Seahawks all the time. Every game
in this rivalry is and by itself. But you know,
he he is, he knows what's at stake, he knows
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what kind of a game it is. He's not afraid.
He's probably loving it. Knowing him a little bit, he
is loving it, you know, but you know it's it's
it's going to be a quite a game tonight.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
What would your conversation with Sam be, knowing that the
last time you played these guys he threw four picks
and he's got this millstone around his neck right now
in the perception he can't win the big one. Would
you have a special conversation with him going into this one?
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Well, just it probably be very similar to the ones
I have most in most every game, But I would
He does not have to be reminded of that or
knows it's been. It's been, it's been written about, talked
about a lot, and so you just have to let
him know, however, you do that, that you believe in him,
and let's just let it roll. You know, this is
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whatever's happened in the past. You won't even have to
phrase it. You just let him know, we're with you,
let's go, you know, and and then let the chips fall.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
It's interesting that Dix use the word millstone. I think
a lot of people believe that Sam Donald doesn't play
well in big games, and that's the perception.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Whether it's right or wrong.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I think it's a little bit unfair, a little bit overblown,
but that's the perception.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
And that's fine.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
The public can believe in the media can believe whatever
they want. Do you believe that Sam Donald hears that
and that he believes that. Do you think Sam Donald
looks at himself in the mirror and says, you got
a problem in big games, man, you got to step
it up.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Do you think he thinks that?
Speaker 5 (11:37):
No, I don't think he does. I don't think he does.
He I think it ticks him off, you know, not
that people talk about it like that, but that he
actually listen, I'm better than that, you know, and I'm
going to show people, you know. It's just it was
one of those things, you know. And so yeah, the
three games they always reference were big games. That was
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the difference. They were big games. But the season he's
had this season, except for that one game, he's been
pretty darn good. And he's the reason, one of the
big reasons they are where they are.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
How much do you let him rip tonight?
Speaker 4 (12:14):
How do you how aggressive do you think these play
callers on both sides are going to be, knowing the stakes,
the defenses they're going up against.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
In the weather, well, I think the weather's the big
factor in my opinion, what they're going up against and
the stakes and all that kind of stuff. You play
the game to win, and if you're the offensive play
caller or the offensive coordinator, my job is to score points.
That's my job and it's not And then we'll let
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somebody defensive guy just stop him, you know, let him
worry about that. My job is to score points. And
then you know, let it go. That when you said
let it rip, I hope I hope. My hope is
that they whatever that means to let I hope they
do that tonight.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, Well we'll see. I mean, this is week what
is this week fifteen? Technically right sixteen? Sorry of the
NFL season sixteen seventeen eighteen, and the Seahawks are still
not a great running team, and I wonder if they're
ever going to be. I mean, we now at a
point in the year, Mike, where we can just figure out, Hey,
it's the week before Christmas.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
They are who they are.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Nothing's going to change much between now and the end
of the year. Or is there room for improvement for
this team to find a way to start running the
ball better.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Well, you know what, Dave, I think they are who
they are, but they have shown spurts We've seen spurts
of good plays and good runs and things like that,
so they are capable, but on a consistent basis, it
has been something that hasn't worked as well as they
would like. And I think to think there's going to
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be just a dramatic change somehow in there with three
games to go after playing, you know, fourteen games. I
don't think that's going to happen, but they in moments
and maybe they can gain some momentum there someone pops
a run off you go, you know, but I think
it's going to be dramatically different. I think I'm not
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sure about that.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yeah, yeah, you mentioned popping a run.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I mean, ken Walker's got the better chance of the
two to pop a run, but it seems recently like
Zach Charbonay has got the better chance of getting you
three or four tough yards. So which style of running
back do you want to go to tonight?
Speaker 5 (14:27):
More? Well, what I would go to is pick one
of them, pick one, and and hand him the ball
and then they know who they want to pick, So
pick one. Don't play it kind of like they've been
playing it back and forth, because you're right, sharbon Ay,
they're different style runners. They're different style runners. And if
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you do make a change because you're not liking the
style of one of them over the other, Okay, I
get that, But to say, okay, we're going to give
you eleven carries and you eleven carries bounce it off,
you know, I don't think you could say that's worked
for them, right then, sermons in their different styles. Sabone
is a pounder and he's going to go straight ahead,
and he looked he's looked very good at times. But
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last week neither one of them had many yards, neither
one of them. So but I would I'd pick one
and then use the other guy on occasion, but not
kind of how they've been doing it.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Mike, I don't know how much did DeVante Adams You've
watched this year? He leads the NFL in touchdown He's
got fourteen overall, almost eight hundred yards already, one hundred
and fourteen targets.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
He is a gigantic part of the Rams offense.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
He's not going to play tonight, you know, puking akuas
there obviously to two at well as a pass catcher,
Jordan Whittington from Texas as a pass catcher, but go
back to when you played a high powered offense and
they were missing their number one wide receiver. How much
does that really affect them and change things tonight?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
You think?
Speaker 5 (15:57):
I think it changes things a little. I don't. It
might not change things a lot because Nikou is so good,
you know, but it does change things for you. You know.
I love through that too. And and we finally had
to sign Andre Risen in Green Bay, and when our
two top receivers got hurt, and it just changed, well
we had two guys get hurt, not one. So you know, Stafford,
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their passing game is what it is because they have
great receivers, but because they have Matthew Stafford. So that
I think is the key in something to watch tonight
more than anything else.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Coach, we've been talking about this is the biggest game
in the regular season at Loumenfield in dot dot dot.
However many years I think we've taken it, probably back
to twenty fourteen, so we're talking about eleven years. Do
you have a regular season game that kind of comes
to mind as one that had this much hype that
everybody's eyes around the nation we're focused on.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Oh gosh, Jack, do you know I I can't. There
were probably a couple, but I'm old and I can't
think back that far.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
You coaching a lot of big games.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
But yeah, we had some. But but honestly, the build
up to this one, and it's a division opponent, and
it's a natural rivalry, and the record is so good
and what's at stake could be a first round by
you know, in the playoffs, and all those types of
things piled into one game. And then it's a night game,
Thursday night football, so the whole world will be watching.
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So this one has everything. And I'm the only thing
I'm sorry is the weather's going to be crummy. That's
the only thing that I'm sorry about.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Yeah, you wish you were sitting in the stands with us.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Freezing freezing, he does freezing, Your freezing, your Kisa off
Man watching this game like a fan instead of sitting
on the on the warm couch and your Kirkling kind
of minium, drinking a vodka soda, enjoying some nice appetizers
on your couch.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
So that's what you want, Yeah, you know what? You
know what, because you said that, I'm gonna take my
a little portable out to the garage because it's open,
and I'm gonna sit there and watch it because so
I don't have to, so I don't have to feel
bad about being there.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, here exactly you should feel bad for us, man, definitely.
All right, listen, great stuff, enjoy it. Take a couple
of weeks off. Merry Christmas, my friend, have a great
new Year, and we'll talk in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
All right, coach.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Odating Merry Christmas to you guys too, Thank you, and
all right, I have a good one tonight.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
You bet man.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Mike Ho, I'm going with us. We're gonna break schedule
to talk to Rick view Heiseel. Get some thoughts from
him on the CFP that starts tomorrow with Alabama and Oklahoma.
Hugh Millan joins at five for some final thoughts on
the Hawks and Rams before cracking Flames coming up pregame
five thirty faced off at six. Right here on ninety
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Speaker 6 (18:51):
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Now with Rick Neuheisel, here's SOFTI and Dick.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Dick, you know what I'm wondering right now before this
big ram Seahawk game tonight, where's the taco time that?
And I'm also wondering if our next guests recruited it
either one of the starting quarterbacks when they were in
high school and Matt Stafford or Sam Darneld. I mean
that that is how long and Gris new Heisl has
been around for and he remembers both these guys when
they were in high school.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Did you recruit you?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Do you remember recruiting either Stafford or Donald when they
were in high school?
Speaker 7 (19:40):
Rick, So, Stafford is from Highland Park in Dallas. And
do you know who his center was? Tell me the
center on his football team? Tell me Clayton Kershaw.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
What I know that he played? I know that Kershaw
was at his.
Speaker 7 (19:58):
Was the center for Mat Stafford.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Wow?
Speaker 7 (20:03):
Wow about that?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Incredible Geez.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
And Donald?
Speaker 7 (20:07):
Now I think Sam Donold I think was an Orange
Lutheran kid and now he was an s he commit
from the get go.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Yeah, no, I got you well listen and a little.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
After me, a little after I was done it at UCLA, I.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Get it well, Rick.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
We got a big one tonight, but we got a
big one starting tomorrow in the playoff.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
It's incredible.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
The College Football Playoff is twenty four hours and thirty
minutes away with Oklahoma and Alabama. And before we talk
about the games themselves, there still are some people that
believe that Calen de bor is going to be the
next coach at Michigan and he's just waiting until Alabama
season comes to an end. What are you hearing on
anything involving Michigan and Kylen de Bor?
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Man.
Speaker 7 (20:48):
The guys that I know at Presno State that are
close to Kaitlin, that were part of his his crew
that were there, have heard Kalen is happy in Alabama
and is not leaving, Okay, so you can take him
out his that's from the guys at Presno. Obviously, Caylin
has told us that he's gonna stay right where he is.
But the Michigan job is a special one. No one
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can deny that. So and we'll see what sort of
acrimony is stirred up. If Oklahoma has their way against
Alabama and they look Anemak offensively.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Again, should Jed come out and do what Caylan did
and just say I'm staying here and regardless of whether
he stays here or not, he can still come out
and reassure the fan base. Or should he just play
it like he's playing it right now?
Speaker 7 (21:34):
You know, I think Jed's just trying to be as
honest as he can be. Obviously he would be infatuated
with I say infatuated because I don't know that it's
a love, but you know, I still wonder if there's
still a little bit of a stain just because he
was part of Harbass crew. I mean, they are going
through with white white gloves now, going through that program
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looking for everything that was wrong, and so I don't
know that anybody gets out of it on tarnished. My
guest is Jed's going to be the Washington coach next year,
and I hope Washington fans are excited about that.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, Rick, I don't know if you and Dick have
heard this, but I was told by somebody that apparently
Jed Fish played a role in bringing Connor Stallions to
ann Arbor did you know that? And if that's the case,
do you think that was maybe the red flag that
Josh Pate was talking about the other day that might
preclude him from getting that job.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
Yeah, that could be. I mean, I know that Connor
had been around Jed when he was at Arizona a
little bit, and I don't know at what extent. You know,
Connor was one of those zelot young wanna be coaches
that was trying to do anything to get the favor
from the guy who was going to be hiring. So
I saw all understandable. But yeah, I just know that
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right now there's a absolute investigation going on at Michigan
because they can't take any more slings and arrows about
who did what when I think they got to go
back to being squeaky clean.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
So are they putting the breaks on a coaching search
or our prospective coaches putting a breaks the breaks on
a perspective coaching search because of what's going on at Michigan.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
Yeah, I think a little of both. I think the
Michigan thing's going to spin the wheel again, no question
about it, because there'll be a lot of movement and
a lot of coaches, including my son are waiting for
the movement to happen, right, Wow, to see exactly where
opportunities are. So yeah, there's no question that. And obviously
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with the first weekend of the college football playoff, no
one wants to throw any wrinkles in that prior to
game time.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Well, we got a game tomorrow Alabama Oklahoma. Oklahoma. I
saw will be asked to do something that nobody's done
to Alabama in one hundred and thirty years, and that
speed him twice in the same season.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
What's your gut on tomorrow?
Speaker 7 (24:00):
I think it's going to be a hell of a game.
And it's who got their offense right during the break right,
because neither offense was worth a lick down the stretch,
whether it was matiir because of their surgery to his hand,
whether it was Simpson not having enough protection time. Neither
one of those teams is playing at where that you'd
expect to, you know, a national championship program to be playing.
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The first game was neither team had one hundred yards rushing,
So I would say, you know, you know, Ty Simpson
is not going to run for yards. If John Mattier
can become a weapon offensively with his legs tomorrow and
Oklahoma gets over one hundred and thirty yards rushing. I'm
leaning Oklahoma got it.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Texas Tech kind of a similar team to Oklahoma, and
they can get it done on one side of the ball.
The question is can they get it done on the
offensive side of the ball. What do you think about
that Tech Miami game?
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Well, it's not Tech Miami, it's Texas A and M.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Sorry, I'm sorry, You're.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
Right, yeah, yeah, A and M. It's to me. Everything
about A is that pass rush. You know, they went
a stretch during the season with A with I think
they two allowed two conversions and thirty three attempts on
third down over a three game deal. And if you
look at Carson Beck and when Miami's vulnerables when he
throws the ball away to the other team, which was
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the case in both the Louisville and the SMU games,
and it was because there was a pass rush. So
if Casius Howell and company can get after Carson Beck,
and remember it's in front of the A and M faithful,
which are the twelfth Man, as the Seattle understands the
twelfth Man, and you get and you make it difficult
for that quarterback to set his feet and you make
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it difficult for those tackles to get off the snapcount.
Then it becomes a kind of a one sided thing.
So I'm going to lean aggies in that game.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Gotcha?
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Well, Rick, James Madison going to Eugene on Saturday. I'm
telling you, if James Madison can win this game, I
will be professional on social media.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I will not rub it in whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
And also I'm lying one hundred I will laugh my
balls off James Madison to Oregon and win this. Can
you see any can you paint any picture for me
at all where James Madison wins this game.
Speaker 7 (26:15):
Well, listen, they got a dual threat quarterback. This Alonza
Barnett is a you know, rush for close to six
hundred yards, so they got that going for him. But
to me, both these games that are featuring group of
five opponents you know, trying to you know, be the Cinderella,
have to have great performances from their dual threat quarterback,
whether it's Barnett or Jake Bretzloff. In the Tulane Ole
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Miss game, they're gonna have to be you know, one
hundred yard rushers and they're gonna have to go for
it on four down a few times and steal possessions.
I think if you got to look for somebody to
get somewhere thirty eight forty minutes of possession time and
just play keep away and get the home team really
impatient and then get a couple turnovers, that's the way
this is going to happen. I think it's more likely
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in the Tulan game than the James Madison game. But
if it comes to pass, I will think of you, Softy.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I love it, thank you, thank you, Rick.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
How many teams do you think legitimately can win the
National Championship without crazy things happening?
Speaker 7 (27:16):
I think seven. I think seven teams can win it. Yeah,
I think the four teams that are we're talking about,
you know, power versus power in this first deal, and
then I like at least three, and you know what,
I like at least three of the four teams. You know,
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I'm gonna go with high as eight. I think eight
can do it, yeah, because especially the one that I
had out was Oklahoma. But the more I think about it,
if Matier all of a sudden gets back to form
like he played in the early portion, then there could
be dangerous as well, because that defense is national championship caliber.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Well, let's do this, all right, I'm gonna make you
a deal. You're seven and nine on the air so far,
because you lost the Army game last week.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
I'm gonna make you a go ahead.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
Now, how did I lose that? I took Army and
they got six and a half?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (28:11):
You know what, Actually, you're right my fault. I'm sorry.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
I am let's black nights baby.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
I thought Army was giving six and a half. My fault.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I apologize. So you are your eight and eight on
the air to five hundred. You're eight and eight on
the air. There you okay, I'm gonna give you a shot. Yes,
I agree with you that that's my fault. I apologize profusely.
I feel terrible. I want you to give us a
prediction for the weekend, and I want you to give
me a prediction on who wins the entire thing.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
We're not gonna talk here for a.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Few weeks because we're giving you some time off here
for the holidays, obviously, but if you can get both
of them right, then we will wipe away every loss
off your schedule.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Okay, Well, right now.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
That the best. The best pick for tomorrow night, as
much as you're gonna hate it is Oregon. Oregon's gonna
cover the twenty one and a half, right, and then
and the and the other national champion pick. I'm gonna
take Ohio State beating Texas Tech for the national title.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Ohio State over Texas Tech for the whole thing. All right, man,
great stuff. Listen, dude, have a happy holiday. I can't
tell you how much we appreciate you coming on with
us every single week. Thanks so much for everything you
do for the radio station, not just for us, but
for Chuck and Buck as well, my friend.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Thanks coach.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
It is a treat. Is a treat, And happy Holidays
to everybody in Seattle, and go a hawk tonight.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Enjoy it absolutely? All right? Are we positive?
Speaker 2 (29:35):
By the way that he's right about Clayton Kershaw playing center?
I know we played baseball at Matt Staffords High School?
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Does he remember that, right, Andrews? Can you confirm that
on the Google?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
By the way, that sounds crazy, I've never heard that
from anybody.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Clayton Curser must have weighed one hundred and seventy pounds,
my god, and he was like six foot five. What
the hell, how would you be able to see over
the guy?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
All right, we're gonna break, come back and wrap it
up with some text here, and then Humulin is going
to join at five on ninety three three k j
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Speaker 3 (00:16):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
The injury reports are officially out. Davante Adams not gonna play.
Oh rah, that's a shame. Charles Cross not gonna play
for the Seahawks. But you already knew that. Seahawks and
Rams coming up tonight. Uh hearing that Chad Brown and
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Speaker 4 (00:37):
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Speaker 4 (01:05):
Designated quarterback Anthony Richardson return from the IR, giving him
twenty one days to be activated. He's been out since
October after suffering an orbital fracture when a training band
snapped and hit him in the eye.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
And some sad news to report today.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
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Speaker 2 (02:19):
Right, we're back big thanks for the five twenty bar
and Grail in Bellevue for normally having us on, but
with the Seahawk game today at home, we are over
at Jimmy's on First across the street from Loomenfield, So
that means that we don't get to see Mike Congrin's
face in person and know he's very, very disappointed that
he's not with us in person here at Jimmy's on First.
Our friend Mike hom Grin joined us right now via
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the telephone.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
How are you man?
Speaker 5 (02:43):
I'm good, guys, and I am disappointed. Hi. In fact,
I feel real bad right now.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Can you imagine what this place would be like if
Mike Holmgren walked in right now?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
They were channing his name about an hour ago. Well
let's talk about this one. This is a big one,
coach tonight. Games like this, you know, this late in
the year, for the division championship and NFL prestige, number
one overall seeds.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Things like that.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Tell me about what you think is happening in that
locker room right now, just about an hour and ten
minutes before tonight's game.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Well, everyone's trying to leave the coaches first of all,
or I was. I was trying to calm down, get
in my office. No one bothered me, no one could
talk to me. Just think about I'm going to call
the game and things like that. But there is a
feeling in there and the players this is this is
a bigger game. You say every game is the same,
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it's not. This is a game. And in that locker
room right now, they are They're walking around, they're putting
on their equipment, they're thinking about what they have to do.
They know how important the football game is to them.
And you can sense it. If you walked in there
and just looked around as a visitor, you could sense
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that they I'm not saying tention by the atmosphere, so.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
As your pre game speech different then, or do you
just kind of let the tension speak for itself.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
You know what, I used to let the tension speak
for it, Celf Dick, you know, I you know, of
course you remind him of what's at stake, you know,
but you don't have to remind them. They know. But
I mean, I always thought that was part of my
job to remind him. But there's not a lot to
say at that point. You said most of it already
and now it's just a matter of getting them focused.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Well, I mean there's a couple of big ones tonight.
Let's start in the offense for the Seahawks. Charles Cross
not going to play left tackle. I'm trying to remember
how many games you coached without Walter Jones at left tackle,
but it can't be a lot. What do you do
tonight if you're a Clint Kubiak, Mike McDonald, how does
it affect your play calling when you don't have your
left tackle here?
Speaker 5 (04:48):
You know, that's a great question, and I did live
through that once, not with Seattle, but in Green Bay.
We played the Giants against Michael Strahan and our right
tackle with dirt and a guy, a good backup player,
but it was going to be a disaster. It was
just not going to work. So we had to double
him every single time. And it takes stuff away from
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your offense. It does. Now, Mike and and Clint might
they might look at it differently. They might say, Josh
comes in and we listen, we're gonna let it rip,
you know, that's that's the thing. The Mike McDonald says,
let it rip. They might do that, but it's going
to be different, you know. But this guy, he's ready
(05:31):
to play, I think. But there's a reason he's where
he is in the lineup. And Cross has been very,
very good for the team. And so you probably start
out regularly, you start out just calling your game, and
then all of a sudden you're having somebody watch that
watch that tell me what's happening over there. And then
if if there is, if it's not working, then you
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have to make adjustments. You know, maybe chip and double
and move the tight end over there and things like that.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Coach tell us, do you think Clint Kubiak kind of
held back play calling over the last four weeks, knowing
he had four extremely winnable games sandwiched in between two
RAMS games. How much do you think he's saved for tonight?
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Diket would surprise me if he saved anything. Honestly, you know,
I think when you go in, you know, you look
like I've said it before, you look at every game
and it's a game you want to win, and it's
the game you're focused on right now. You're not thinking
about next week or two weeks from now. And you know,
but they have started off slow in the last couple
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of ball games. But I don't attribute that to his
how he looked at how he was going to call
the game and how he's going to do it. It's
just the way they did it, and then they made
adjustments at halftime and it changed. But I would be
very surprised. In fact, I don't believe that happens.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Gotcha, Well, Mike congruns with us, and Mike you mentioned
the slow starts. I want to ask you about that.
And also red zone touchdown percentage. I mean, I just
kind of feel like in twenty twenty five, if your
opponent gets inside the twenty and you hold them to
a three, that's a win for the defense man. In
this day and age in football, so red zone touchdowns
have been kind of few and far between, a little
bit for this football team lately, anything you're seeing on
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the offensive side of the ball that you would tweak
a little bit, if anything, to maybe get these guys
to be a little more productive inside the red zone. Hell,
they won a game without scoring a touchdown last week
for got six.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Yeah I know, but tonight I think they're going to
need more than that. But I would like to see
them And this is my philosophy, and maybe it's not
the way Mike wants to do things, but that you
get inside the red zone and you got a field
goal in your pocket. It's there. So wherever you are
first and ten, now I'm going for the end zone.
(07:45):
I'm going for the end zone. I'm not going for
first downs. I don't want first goal to go at
the nine. I want to score a touchdown, you know,
from twenty to eighteen whatever, wherever I am in the
red zone. And so that's what I would do. And
then so I was the whole I would like to
see that some chances take them like that. They know
they got the field goal, you know, so shoot for
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it and tell the team that in the red zone preparation, Hey,
this is what we're going to do. You're gonna going
to throw the ball to you. You get open, You're
going to score a touchdown. This guy you now you're next,
And just teach it that way.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
How wendy does it have to be before you alter
a your play calling and b how far you decide
to let Jason Myers kick field goals?
Speaker 5 (08:30):
You know what, I think it's going to be wendy tonight.
So that will that will be a factor in the game.
Just how windy it is. I don't know you guys
are down there, but it's it's going to be a
factor in the game. And it does affect your play calling.
It does affect the type of throw you do. It
affects your the length you can kick a field goal
or a punt or whatever. You know. And I've told
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you before I was in a game like that in Chicago,
and our punters on both teams, good punters, you know,
kick beautiful spirals up into the two of them came
back beyond the line of scrimmage. Wow, behind the line
of scrimmage. He was so windy. It was bad Halloween night,
and but fortunately we won.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah, Mike, I just wonder put yourself in Sean mcvay's shoes.
Not that you're frightened of anything. I mean, that's ridiculous.
Like nobody on this field tonight is frightened of anything.
But this was a head coach in Sean McVay that
beat the Seahawks by two points last time they played,
and the Hawks threw four interceptions and they were still
a sixty one yard field goal away from winning the game.
(09:33):
I mean, that's how close they came to winning that
game with four picks. If you're Sean McVay, are you thinking, man,
we got to step up because we can't rely on
four picks again tonight.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
No, that's exactly what he's thinking, Dave. Honestly, he's he's
he knows, he knows the Seahawks are a good team.
It's a huge rival and the idea, you know, everyone says, well,
the Rams beat the Seahawks all the time. Every game
in this rivalry is and by itself. But you know,
he he is, he knows what's at stake, he knows
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what kind of a game it is. He's not afraid.
He's probably loving it. Knowing him a little bit, he
is loving it, you know, but you know it's it's
it's going to be a quite a game tonight.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
What would your conversation with Sam be, knowing that the
last time you played these guys he threw four picks
and he's got this millstone around his neck right now
in the perception he can't win the big one. Would
you have a special conversation with him going into this one?
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Well, just it probably be very similar to the ones
I have most in most every game, But I would
He does not have to be reminded of that or
knows it's been. It's been, it's been written about, talked
about a lot, and so you just have to let
him know, however, you do that, that you believe in him,
and let's just let it roll. You know, this is
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whatever's happened in the past. You won't even have to
phrase it. You just let him know, we're with you,
let's go, you know, and and then let the chips fall.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
It's interesting that Dix use the word millstone. I think
a lot of people believe that Sam Donald doesn't play
well in big games, and that's the perception.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Whether it's right or wrong.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I think it's a little bit unfair, a little bit overblown,
but that's the perception.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
And that's fine.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
The public can believe in the media can believe whatever
they want. Do you believe that Sam Donald hears that
and that he believes that. Do you think Sam Donald
looks at himself in the mirror and says, you got
a problem in big games, man, you got to step
it up.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Do you think he thinks that?
Speaker 5 (11:37):
No, I don't think he does. I don't think he does.
He I think it ticks him off, you know, not
that people talk about it like that, but that he
actually listen, I'm better than that, you know, and I'm
going to show people, you know. It's just it was
one of those things, you know. And so yeah, the
three games they always reference were big games. That was
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the difference. They were big games. But the season he's
had this season, except for that one game, he's been
pretty darn good. And he's the reason, one of the
big reasons they are where they are.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
How much do you let him rip tonight?
Speaker 4 (12:14):
How do you how aggressive do you think these play
callers on both sides are going to be, knowing the stakes,
the defenses they're going up against.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
In the weather, well, I think the weather's the big
factor in my opinion, what they're going up against and
the stakes and all that kind of stuff. You play
the game to win, and if you're the offensive play
caller or the offensive coordinator, my job is to score points.
That's my job and it's not And then we'll let
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somebody defensive guy just stop him, you know, let him
worry about that. My job is to score points. And
then you know, let it go. That when you said
let it rip, I hope I hope. My hope is
that they whatever that means to let I hope they
do that tonight.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, Well we'll see. I mean, this is week what
is this week fifteen? Technically right sixteen? Sorry of the
NFL season sixteen seventeen eighteen, and the Seahawks are still
not a great running team, and I wonder if they're
ever going to be. I mean, we now at a
point in the year, Mike, where we can just figure out, Hey,
it's the week before Christmas.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
They are who they are.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Nothing's going to change much between now and the end
of the year. Or is there room for improvement for
this team to find a way to start running the
ball better.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Well, you know what, Dave, I think they are who
they are, but they have shown spurts We've seen spurts
of good plays and good runs and things like that,
so they are capable, but on a consistent basis, it
has been something that hasn't worked as well as they
would like. And I think to think there's going to
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be just a dramatic change somehow in there with three
games to go after playing, you know, fourteen games. I
don't think that's going to happen, but they in moments
and maybe they can gain some momentum there someone pops
a run off you go, you know, but I think
it's going to be dramatically different. I think I'm not
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sure about that.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yeah, yeah, you mentioned popping a run.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I mean, ken Walker's got the better chance of the
two to pop a run, but it seems recently like
Zach Charbonay has got the better chance of getting you
three or four tough yards. So which style of running
back do you want to go to tonight?
Speaker 5 (14:27):
More? Well, what I would go to is pick one
of them, pick one, and and hand him the ball
and then they know who they want to pick, So
pick one. Don't play it kind of like they've been
playing it back and forth, because you're right, sharbon Ay,
they're different style runners. They're different style runners. And if
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you do make a change because you're not liking the
style of one of them over the other, Okay, I
get that, But to say, okay, we're going to give
you eleven carries and you eleven carries bounce it off,
you know, I don't think you could say that's worked
for them, right then, sermons in their different styles. Sabone
is a pounder and he's going to go straight ahead,
and he looked he's looked very good at times. But
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last week neither one of them had many yards, neither
one of them. So but I would I'd pick one
and then use the other guy on occasion, but not
kind of how they've been doing it.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Mike, I don't know how much did DeVante Adams You've
watched this year? He leads the NFL in touchdown He's
got fourteen overall, almost eight hundred yards already, one hundred
and fourteen targets.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
He is a gigantic part of the Rams offense.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
He's not going to play tonight, you know, puking akuas
there obviously to two at well as a pass catcher,
Jordan Whittington from Texas as a pass catcher, but go
back to when you played a high powered offense and
they were missing their number one wide receiver. How much
does that really affect them and change things tonight?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
You think?
Speaker 5 (15:57):
I think it changes things a little. I don't. It
might not change things a lot because Nikou is so good,
you know, but it does change things for you. You know.
I love through that too. And and we finally had
to sign Andre Risen in Green Bay, and when our
two top receivers got hurt, and it just changed, well
we had two guys get hurt, not one. So you know, Stafford,
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their passing game is what it is because they have
great receivers, but because they have Matthew Stafford. So that
I think is the key in something to watch tonight
more than anything else.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Coach, we've been talking about this is the biggest game
in the regular season at Loumenfield in dot dot dot.
However many years I think we've taken it, probably back
to twenty fourteen, so we're talking about eleven years. Do
you have a regular season game that kind of comes
to mind as one that had this much hype that
everybody's eyes around the nation we're focused on.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Oh gosh, Jack, do you know I I can't. There
were probably a couple, but I'm old and I can't
think back that far.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
You coaching a lot of big games.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
But yeah, we had some. But but honestly, the build
up to this one, and it's a division opponent, and
it's a natural rivalry, and the record is so good
and what's at stake could be a first round by
you know, in the playoffs, and all those types of
things piled into one game. And then it's a night game,
Thursday night football, so the whole world will be watching.
(17:27):
So this one has everything. And I'm the only thing
I'm sorry is the weather's going to be crummy. That's
the only thing that I'm sorry about.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Yeah, you wish you were sitting in the stands with us.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Freezing freezing, he does freezing, Your freezing, your Kisa off
Man watching this game like a fan instead of sitting
on the on the warm couch and your Kirkling kind
of minium, drinking a vodka soda, enjoying some nice appetizers
on your couch.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
So that's what you want, Yeah, you know what? You
know what, because you said that, I'm gonna take my
a little portable out to the garage because it's open,
and I'm gonna sit there and watch it because so
I don't have to, so I don't have to feel
bad about being there.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, here exactly you should feel bad for us, man, definitely.
All right, listen, great stuff, enjoy it. Take a couple
of weeks off. Merry Christmas, my friend, have a great
new Year, and we'll talk in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
All right, coach.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Odating Merry Christmas to you guys too, Thank you, and
all right, I have a good one tonight.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
You bet man.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Mike Ho, I'm going with us. We're gonna break schedule
to talk to Rick view Heiseel. Get some thoughts from
him on the CFP that starts tomorrow with Alabama and Oklahoma.
Hugh Millan joins at five for some final thoughts on
the Hawks and Rams before cracking Flames coming up pregame
five thirty faced off at six. Right here on ninety
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(19:11):
Now with Rick Neuheisel, here's SOFTI and Dick.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Dick, you know what I'm wondering right now before this
big ram Seahawk game tonight, where's the taco time that?
And I'm also wondering if our next guests recruited it
either one of the starting quarterbacks when they were in
high school and Matt Stafford or Sam Darneld. I mean
that that is how long and Gris new Heisl has
been around for and he remembers both these guys when
they were in high school.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Did you recruit you?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Do you remember recruiting either Stafford or Donald when they
were in high school?
Speaker 7 (19:40):
Rick, So, Stafford is from Highland Park in Dallas. And
do you know who his center was? Tell me the
center on his football team? Tell me Clayton Kershaw.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
What I know that he played? I know that Kershaw
was at his.
Speaker 7 (19:58):
Was the center for Mat Stafford.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Wow?
Speaker 7 (20:03):
Wow about that?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Incredible Geez.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
And Donald?
Speaker 7 (20:07):
Now I think Sam Donold I think was an Orange
Lutheran kid and now he was an s he commit
from the get go.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Yeah, no, I got you well listen and a little.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
After me, a little after I was done it at UCLA, I.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Get it well, Rick.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
We got a big one tonight, but we got a
big one starting tomorrow in the playoff.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
It's incredible.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
The College Football Playoff is twenty four hours and thirty
minutes away with Oklahoma and Alabama. And before we talk
about the games themselves, there still are some people that
believe that Calen de bor is going to be the
next coach at Michigan and he's just waiting until Alabama
season comes to an end. What are you hearing on
anything involving Michigan and Kylen de Bor?
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Man.
Speaker 7 (20:48):
The guys that I know at Presno State that are
close to Kaitlin, that were part of his his crew
that were there, have heard Kalen is happy in Alabama
and is not leaving, Okay, so you can take him
out his that's from the guys at Presno. Obviously, Caylin
has told us that he's gonna stay right where he is.
But the Michigan job is a special one. No one
(21:10):
can deny that. So and we'll see what sort of
acrimony is stirred up. If Oklahoma has their way against
Alabama and they look Anemak offensively.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Again, should Jed come out and do what Caylan did
and just say I'm staying here and regardless of whether
he stays here or not, he can still come out
and reassure the fan base. Or should he just play
it like he's playing it right now?
Speaker 7 (21:34):
You know, I think Jed's just trying to be as
honest as he can be. Obviously he would be infatuated
with I say infatuated because I don't know that it's
a love, but you know, I still wonder if there's
still a little bit of a stain just because he
was part of Harbass crew. I mean, they are going
through with white white gloves now, going through that program
(21:54):
looking for everything that was wrong, and so I don't
know that anybody gets out of it on tarnished. My
guest is Jed's going to be the Washington coach next year,
and I hope Washington fans are excited about that.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, Rick, I don't know if you and Dick have
heard this, but I was told by somebody that apparently
Jed Fish played a role in bringing Connor Stallions to
ann Arbor did you know that? And if that's the case,
do you think that was maybe the red flag that
Josh Pate was talking about the other day that might
preclude him from getting that job.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
Yeah, that could be. I mean, I know that Connor
had been around Jed when he was at Arizona a
little bit, and I don't know at what extent. You know,
Connor was one of those zelot young wanna be coaches
that was trying to do anything to get the favor
from the guy who was going to be hiring. So
I saw all understandable. But yeah, I just know that
(22:53):
right now there's a absolute investigation going on at Michigan
because they can't take any more slings and arrows about
who did what when I think they got to go
back to being squeaky clean.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
So are they putting the breaks on a coaching search
or our prospective coaches putting a breaks the breaks on
a perspective coaching search because of what's going on at Michigan.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
Yeah, I think a little of both. I think the
Michigan thing's going to spin the wheel again, no question
about it, because there'll be a lot of movement and
a lot of coaches, including my son are waiting for
the movement to happen, right, Wow, to see exactly where
opportunities are. So yeah, there's no question that. And obviously
(23:38):
with the first weekend of the college football playoff, no
one wants to throw any wrinkles in that prior to
game time.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Well, we got a game tomorrow Alabama Oklahoma. Oklahoma. I
saw will be asked to do something that nobody's done
to Alabama in one hundred and thirty years, and that
speed him twice in the same season.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
What's your gut on tomorrow?
Speaker 7 (24:00):
I think it's going to be a hell of a game.
And it's who got their offense right during the break right,
because neither offense was worth a lick down the stretch,
whether it was matiir because of their surgery to his hand,
whether it was Simpson not having enough protection time. Neither
one of those teams is playing at where that you'd
expect to, you know, a national championship program to be playing.
(24:22):
The first game was neither team had one hundred yards rushing,
So I would say, you know, you know, Ty Simpson
is not going to run for yards. If John Mattier
can become a weapon offensively with his legs tomorrow and
Oklahoma gets over one hundred and thirty yards rushing. I'm
leaning Oklahoma got it.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Texas Tech kind of a similar team to Oklahoma, and
they can get it done on one side of the ball.
The question is can they get it done on the
offensive side of the ball. What do you think about
that Tech Miami game?
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Well, it's not Tech Miami, it's Texas A and M.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Sorry, I'm sorry, You're.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
Right, yeah, yeah, A and M. It's to me. Everything
about A is that pass rush. You know, they went
a stretch during the season with A with I think
they two allowed two conversions and thirty three attempts on
third down over a three game deal. And if you
look at Carson Beck and when Miami's vulnerables when he
throws the ball away to the other team, which was
(25:17):
the case in both the Louisville and the SMU games,
and it was because there was a pass rush. So
if Casius Howell and company can get after Carson Beck,
and remember it's in front of the A and M faithful,
which are the twelfth Man, as the Seattle understands the
twelfth Man, and you get and you make it difficult
for that quarterback to set his feet and you make
(25:40):
it difficult for those tackles to get off the snapcount.
Then it becomes a kind of a one sided thing.
So I'm going to lean aggies in that game.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Gotcha?
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Well, Rick, James Madison going to Eugene on Saturday. I'm
telling you, if James Madison can win this game, I
will be professional on social media.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I will not rub it in whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
And also I'm lying one hundred I will laugh my
balls off James Madison to Oregon and win this. Can
you see any can you paint any picture for me
at all where James Madison wins this game.
Speaker 7 (26:15):
Well, listen, they got a dual threat quarterback. This Alonza
Barnett is a you know, rush for close to six
hundred yards, so they got that going for him. But
to me, both these games that are featuring group of
five opponents you know, trying to you know, be the Cinderella,
have to have great performances from their dual threat quarterback,
whether it's Barnett or Jake Bretzloff. In the Tulane Ole
(26:38):
Miss game, they're gonna have to be you know, one
hundred yard rushers and they're gonna have to go for
it on four down a few times and steal possessions.
I think if you got to look for somebody to
get somewhere thirty eight forty minutes of possession time and
just play keep away and get the home team really
impatient and then get a couple turnovers, that's the way
this is going to happen. I think it's more likely
(27:00):
in the Tulan game than the James Madison game. But
if it comes to pass, I will think of you, Softy.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I love it, thank you, thank you, Rick.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
How many teams do you think legitimately can win the
National Championship without crazy things happening?
Speaker 7 (27:16):
I think seven. I think seven teams can win it. Yeah,
I think the four teams that are we're talking about,
you know, power versus power in this first deal, and
then I like at least three, and you know what,
I like at least three of the four teams. You know,
(27:38):
I'm gonna go with high as eight. I think eight
can do it, yeah, because especially the one that I
had out was Oklahoma. But the more I think about it,
if Matier all of a sudden gets back to form
like he played in the early portion, then there could
be dangerous as well, because that defense is national championship caliber.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Well, let's do this, all right, I'm gonna make you
a deal. You're seven and nine on the air so far,
because you lost the Army game last week.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
I'm gonna make you a go ahead.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
Now, how did I lose that? I took Army and
they got six and a half?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (28:11):
You know what, Actually, you're right my fault. I'm sorry.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
I am let's black nights baby.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
I thought Army was giving six and a half. My fault.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I apologize. So you are your eight and eight on
the air to five hundred. You're eight and eight on
the air. There you okay, I'm gonna give you a shot. Yes,
I agree with you that that's my fault. I apologize profusely.
I feel terrible. I want you to give us a
prediction for the weekend, and I want you to give
me a prediction on who wins the entire thing.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
We're not gonna talk here for a.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Few weeks because we're giving you some time off here
for the holidays, obviously, but if you can get both
of them right, then we will wipe away every loss
off your schedule.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Okay, Well, right now.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
That the best. The best pick for tomorrow night, as
much as you're gonna hate it is Oregon. Oregon's gonna
cover the twenty one and a half, right, and then
and the and the other national champion pick. I'm gonna
take Ohio State beating Texas Tech for the national title.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Ohio State over Texas Tech for the whole thing. All right, man,
great stuff. Listen, dude, have a happy holiday. I can't
tell you how much we appreciate you coming on with
us every single week. Thanks so much for everything you
do for the radio station, not just for us, but
for Chuck and Buck as well, my friend.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Thanks coach.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
It is a treat. Is a treat, And happy Holidays
to everybody in Seattle, and go a hawk tonight.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Enjoy it absolutely? All right? Are we positive?
Speaker 2 (29:35):
By the way that he's right about Clayton Kershaw playing center?
I know we played baseball at Matt Staffords High School?
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Does he remember that, right, Andrews? Can you confirm that
on the Google?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
By the way, that sounds crazy, I've never heard that
from anybody.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Clayton Curser must have weighed one hundred and seventy pounds,
my god, and he was like six foot five. What
the hell, how would you be able to see over
the guy?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
All right, we're gonna break, come back and wrap it
up with some text here, and then Humulin is going
to join at five on ninety three three k j
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