May 28, 2025 • 52 mins
Jon Wilner from the San Jose Mercury News joins the show to talk about College Football rule changes and much more. We hear from Dan Wilson as he previews the series against the Washington Nationals. Jackson and Anders FINALLY talk some soccer as we preview the match against San Diego on Wednesday.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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John Wilner of the Wilner Hotline, San Jose Mercury News.
I'm in for Dave Softymuller and Dick Fane. Hi, my
name is Jackson Felts. John, I get to talk to
you for more than thirty seconds for the first time.
How are you, buddy.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I'm great, Jackson.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
I feel like I have upgraded from economy class to
business class.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I am delighted to join you.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, you're not at first class yet. We're not going
to give you that much legroom, but we are going
to give you enough. We're not gonna play the what
you're talking about, Wilner sound effect. We're not gonna clown you, cause, John,
we have business to get to. We have a lot
to talk about. Man. It's it's been a while since
we talked to you, and the last time we did,
there was not a new model for the college football
playoffs straight seeding. Top four teams get the top four spots.
(01:06):
So you know, Boise State, Arizona State last season, they
wouldn't get buys in this new model. Why are we
here and how did we get here?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Well, we're here because the SEC and the Big Ten
kind of wanted it basically, and the other ten or
the other eight conferences in Notre Dame agreed to the change.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
I view it kind of as.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
The Oregon rule, right because Oregon just had a you
could call it the Poison State rule too. But you know,
the way it worked out for Oregon is they ended
up playing their the one seed, but they weren't playing
the eight seed. Ohio State was better than that, but
because of the way they had formatted everything, the Ducks
ended up playing a.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Better team than they should have drawn.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Now we're gonna get twelve teams ranked the last after
the conference championships, and the seeding will correlate directly to
the ranking. It's gonna be the same format with the
top four seeds get buys in the opening round, but
those could be all four teams from the same conference,
or it could be two from the SEC and two
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from the Big Ten. No longer are the highest ranked
conference champions awarded automatically the top four seeds.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
And I think that was a smart move.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, no, I think there is potential for danger if
those teams do come from all one conference, if we
end up in that regard. But you're all right, as
you alluded to, I mean, the Oregon rule was a
perfect way to say it, you know, in the sense
of well, I mean last season, they would have ended
up facing not the winner of Ohio State Tennessee, they
would have faced you know what was it, like Indiana
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or Boise State or somewhere in the the next round.
So it definitely comes at a good time for US.
John Wilner's with US San Jose Mercury News Wilner Howland,
the baron of the Big Ten as we now call him.
And you know, your first comment there was about how
much the Big Ten the SEC wanted this, And one
of the big things that I'm kind of reading on
social media is how much Greg sant sank excuse me,
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the SEC commissioner is going off right now. He says
he's all open minded about the format, but it certainly
sounds like he is pushing hard and desperately once four
guaranteed spots in the playoff to go to the SEC.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Well, this is the hottest topick in college sports right
now is the format of the playoff starting in twenty
twenty six, So we got one more year. This upcoming
season is going to be twelve teams, but then starting
in twenty six it could be anything, and it looks
like it's going to be sixteen teams. And the SEC
and Big Ten seem to favor a model where they
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would each get four automatic bids. No matter what happens
during the regular season, they would have four and each
have four spots. The ACC and the Big twelve would
have two each. Then there'd be one for the top
group of five and one at large so or three
at large sorry, and Notre Dame would have access to
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one of those at larges.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
So basically, the SEC.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
And Big Ten are trying to, you know, preserve spots
ahead of time, regardless of what the results say.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
And the reason they're doing that is they don't trust
the committee.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
They want to add games during the regular season. The
Big Ten wants to add a crossover game against the SEC.
The SEC wants to add a ninth conference game in
addition to the Big Ten matchup. They both want to
add play in games on conference championship weekend.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
All of these things are designed to get more TV money, but.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
All of them also could result in more losses, and
because they don't trust the committee with giving, you know,
way to strengthen schedule as opposed to loss totals, they're
trying to basically insulate themselves from that problem by creating
automatic bids. That's kind of a long way of saying it,
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but it's all about getting more money out of regular
season TV games and then protecting yourself from having extra losses.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
That makes sense. John Wilner with us, and I just
hope they have a better name than the four four
one two three model that's being described in all these
various numbers. That there's got to be better names for
these things. But at the end of the day, they
should call it.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
They should call it, I'm sorry interrupt, the Tony Pettitti model,
because it's really even though Greg Sankie from the SEC
has been taking a lot of heat in public and
talked about it the other day, it's really the Big
tens idea. Uh, but Tony Pettiti, the Big ten commissioner,
has not been basically in a public forum where he
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is forced to answer questions from the media. Sanki has
been in public and so he's kind of taken the
heat for some.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
That was really the Big tens idea.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
A TD model. I like that, John, If you were king,
what would you do? What would be your model?
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Well, I would not go to sixteen. I kind of
like what. I like twelve. I thought it was great.
I do think they needed to switch the seeds and
the rankings, but I like twelve. I would not want
the I think that the buye is a.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Competitive disadvantage and again we saw that with Oregon. But
I like twelve.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I think sixteen's too many. And here's the other piece.
Problem with sixteen is where do you play the extra games?
Because right now they have the four opening round games
are on the weekend before Christmas. That is also a
weekend where you've got three NFL games on Saturday plus
the NFL game on Thursday.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
You can't add four more games that weekend.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
So what they're trying to do, what they're talking about doing,
if they go to sixteen, is have like playing games
on what is now the weekend of the Army Navy
game and the Heisman. It's the second Saturday December. So
you'd have sixteen playing thirteen, and you'd have fourteen playing fifteen,
essentially as playing games to the main event, which would
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then start the following weekend. I think that's a terrible idea.
I don't think the college football public wants to see
a version of the first four that we get in basketball.
So that's a big issue with going to sixteen is
where do you play the game at extra games and.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
How do you format it.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I'm with you, I just there's just too much in
that regard. We already have NFL anyway, and I mean,
I'm with you, But at the same time, I mean,
the money's you're gonna speak, and the networks are gonna speak,
and if they want it and the money's there, then
no doubt they're gonna get it. John Wilner with us
San Jose a Mercury News Wilner Hotline as well. You
can follow him on Twitter at Wilner Hotline. John. I
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want to talk to you about as well, the fluidity
with the draft specific for college basketball players, because one
of the things that I've seen over the last couple
of days Memphis is PJ. Haggarty. Also, I think today
Alex Connon of Florida, they both said, you know what,
even though we kind of declared and looked at the draft,
we're going to go back to school. And I think
for PJ. Haggerty is actually gonna transfer as well a
(08:17):
Kansas State. But you know, it makes me kind of
happy because I see these guys kind of saying, you
know what, we did the homework. I know we re
looked deep into the draft, but we said to ourselves, now,
you know, this isn't time for me. I'm going to
go back. And I kind of wish that the NFL
would follow suit. In the NCAA football would follow suit
where if a kid has the ability to say, yeah,
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I'm gonna go to the draft, does all the homework,
Maybe let him go to the combine, let him go
deep into the process. But if you know, a month
before the draft he says, you know what, this isn't
gonna work for me, then let him go back. I
guess I look at the shdur Sanders case and in
so many other cases and I say, why not let
the kids go back if they figure out after the
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whole process that they screwed up.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Well, I think we're going to eventually get there with
the NFL, and I think that we're going to get
to the point and it may take a few years
where you can actually be drafted and then go back
to school and decide, you know what, I'm just going back.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
I'm just going back in. You know, the.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
NFL is a little different because you have to have
three year you have to be three years out of
high school, right.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Whereas in the NBA is only one year.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
A lot of this is based on the collective arguing
agreements at the pro level more than it is at
the you know anything, at the college level.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
But I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
I think the NFL and the NCAA should let a
player declare for the draft, which is usually right around
January twentieth, and then go through the process, certainly go
through the combine, right at least get through Indianapolis in
late February, and then have the option to come back
to school.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
I think that that's, you know, perfectly reasonable.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
It would complicate an already difficult situation for coaches with
their roster management though, because of the transfer portal, right,
I mean, it's already hard enough, and then you've got,
you know, five guys who are.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Say they're leaving, and then they want to come back,
you know. So there may be pushback from coaches, but
I think that in.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Fairness, the courts will eventually somebody's gonna challenge that it
will eventually rule in favor of the players.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Speaking of courts, John, where we stand with the House
Settlement case.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Everybody's waiting for the judge. It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
College sports is basically on hold while everyone waits for
a judge in the Northern District of California to issue
her ruling on this the House Settlement, And the presumption
is that she is going.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
To approve it.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
But if she doesn't, it's just gonna be complete lawlessness,
and I don't know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
At that point.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
State rules will take take over and schools will probably
just start playing paying their players, even though it's not
technically an lay rule, because this state law would supersede
anything else.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
But everyone's hoping she does approve it.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
It would lend a little bit of order and it
would allow them to begin this NIL enforcement arm that
they're trying to implement by which you know, an NIL
deal would have to get approved as fair market value
by Deloitte, and if it's not, then there's gonna be
an enforcement arm that could potentially penalize the school or
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the player for a deal that's above fair market value.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Geez, the legs of that and how that connects And
you mentioned NIL and it sort of connects back to
the previous question. You know, the details of sdur Sanders
first year or first four year contract with the Cleveland
Browns came out where he's over the next four years
he's gonna be making only four point six million dollars,
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making nine hundred and fifty two thousand dollars in the
first year of this rookie deal with the Browns. That
compared to an estimated five point one million dollars in
NIL his deals last year with Colorado. I mean, for
a guy like Shadur, that is a definite warning sign.
I think it's a nice warning sign to maybe give
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a lesson to players like him. Off boy, if you
have a cushy deal, why take the even if you
have a few pole saying you're gonna be a first
round pick. Why take the risk if you have that
kind of NIL money.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
No, for sure.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Now he his particular situation, right, Obviously the family does
not need the money.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
But there's a lot of guys for whom that does apply.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
And we've seen the numbers come down in terms of
how many players are declaring early for the NFL Draft
and how many underclassmen are leaving early for the NBA draft.
In both cases, the numbers are down from where they
were three or four years ago before.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
The nil era began.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Lots of kids borderline first round. You know, NFL if
your borderline day so two day three, they're coming back.
And it's in a lot of cases it's smart, work
on your game and get get some money, yeah, and
position yourself for the future in a much more stable situation.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
You no longer have to jump to get the bag
of for sure. John Wilner is with.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Us, and you can come back to college and go
to a different school.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, right, exactly. If you don't like the system in you,
if you don't like the coach, if you don't like
the place you're living, you can transfer and make it.
I mean, that's what PJ. Haggerty's doing. Right declared for
the NBA Draft, said nah, I'm gonna stay in college,
and then says, yeah, but I don't like Memphis. I'm
gonna go to Kansas State.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
I mean, well, another kid's doing that, Darian Williams, who
was a really good player for Texas Tech. He came
back from the NBA Draft and he's going to transfer
to NC State.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
Yeah. So multiple cases of that for sure.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, exactly, And maybe you get a few more bucks
by transferring. It's just the freedom to athletes right now.
But again we're you know, the waiting for the House
settlement case to see you know, what happens there with
that judge will certainly change things. John, Before I let
you go, I saw that you did a deep dive
into the financials of the PAC twelve. You covered the
revenue plunge or relocation costs, executive pays. You said, quote,
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the seeds of destruction are everywhere. How bad is it
for the PAC twelve.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
Well, it was bad.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
And just to be clear to listeners, this was for
the twenty twenty four fiscal year, so fall at twenty
three spring of twenty four. It was the last year
of the PAC twelve before the ten schools scattered, and
that year included the ten departing schools having to contribute
six and a half million bucks each to Washington State
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and Oregon State included some of the damage financial damage
from that Comcast over payment scandal. It included costs that
the PAC twelve had to shutter the office in San Francisco.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
And move to the East Bay.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
So the end result is that, you know, the Washington's
and Oregons and USC's and Utah's, they have a lot
less revenue in conference revenue compared to their peers in
their new conferences in FY twenty four, kind of putting
them further behind on that front, making budgets even tighter.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
John, before we wrap really quick, because we were going
to play this clip earlier on the show. We didn't
end up having time. Petro's Papadoccus, our good friend who
is on our show tomorrow at four o'clock. I know
he was on Gonzano's podcast last week. He's pretty angry
right now because of Lincoln'reiley trying to wiggle his way
out of the rivalry with Notre Dame. I guess a
(15:37):
what is Lincoln'reiley doing? Seeing as how that seems to
be a rivalry that's good for college football? Or is
he just at the point saying, listen, we know Notre
Dame is the better organization. We don't want to play
him anymore.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Yeah, you know, I love Petros and I get where
he's coming from.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
But I think that a lot of this is rooted
in the AQ situation. And we talked about earlier. Right,
if they're if.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
USC, if the Big Ten has four automatic qualifier spots,
then it doesn't matter how many non conference losses USC has, Right,
all that matters is where they finish in the standings.
But if they're no a ques, then all of a sudden,
USC is playing at a competitive disadvantage to its peers. Now,
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a lot of USC fans, including Petros, would say, we
just we care about that rivalry so much nothing else matters.
But a lot of people would say that the playoff
is more important than any single game, and USC is
damaging its playoff chances by playing Notre Dame, especially if
the Big Ten and the SEC agree to a crossover deal.
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All of a sudden, in that case, USC is playing
non conference games, they're playing Notre Dame, and they're playing
Mississippi or LSU or Florida as well, and it's going
to be awfully tough if there's no a Q bid
for them to ever get in the playoffs and s
he's gotta take a long, hard look at that because
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making the playoff is everything.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, exactly, That's where the money is, that's where the
big games are, it's where the trophies are, and you know, yeah,
that sort of makes sense. Well, Petros is obviously very angry.
We'll hear that anger tomorrow at four o'clock as well. John.
It's been a pleasure to talk to you for more
than thirty seconds this time and actually get a nice
conversation with you. Appreciate your time.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Have you heard from softee coffee sipping tea right now?
Speaker 6 (17:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I think he's having a cocktail in Santorini, I think
before he's going to London tomorrow. So how about that?
Speaker 5 (17:36):
All right? I'm glad he's enjoying himself.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Oh, he certainly certainly is. I hope to talk to
you soon, John. We'll talk to you next Tuesday as usual.
You'll have Dick Fane back I believe Softye back as
well for that next week. Thanks a lot, Jackson thanks
John John Wilner, San Jose Mercury News Willner Hotline. Follow
him on Twitter at Wilner Hotline. He's our burying of
the Big Ten. Always great information. We'll switch back to
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Schmeenzer coming up in the next segment, Sounders FC head coach,
coming off of a one to nothing win for the
Sounders over Dallas. We'll get to your texts on you
make the call coming up at six pm. But the
Mariners Anders, they are starting a three game series tonight
against the Nationals. The lineup is out JP Crawford leading off. Goodness,
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it's not Dylan Morris. We've both talked about so far
today that Julio Rodriguez batting second, cal Rawley, Randi, Arosarina,
Mitch garverrev hits clutch hit on Sundays batting fifth. You
got Dylan Moore still in there at sixth, Donovan Solano,
Leona Tavares, and Williamson is your nine hitter today batting
third with Logan Evans on the mound. Two and one
(19:44):
with a three point three to three ERA in his
five starts so far with the Mariners. Dan Wilson out
of Tea Mobile Parks spoke to the media just a
few moments ago about the series starting against the Nationals.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Well, really nice to be home after the long road trip.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
A good road trip for us. You know, turn our
attention now to to the home stand a good long
home stands chance to you know, play a lot of
you know, nine games here at home. Looking forward to that.
Logan Evans on the hill for us tonight.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Logan's you know, obviously throwing.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
The ball very well for.
Speaker 8 (20:15):
Us, and uh, you know has come in and done
a really nice job here and looking forward another good
start from him tonight and and getting homestand off on
the right book.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
A little different order we've got in the line up
to day.
Speaker 8 (20:31):
I got BUCkies and what kind of went into to
move more up and uh uh.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
In the area back down a little bit.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
I think this is similar to what you know we
have done in the past against lefties and and uh
you know, I think, uh the team obviously has has
left you very well, and uh so I don't think
it's too much different than what it's been and uh,
you know, I think offentively, ev the club just need
to go.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
Out and uh you continue to execue what we've done.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
You know, Uh, Parker with a with a good four seamer,
he's got to split the curve ball.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Nothing will be down in his zone.
Speaker 8 (21:08):
So obviously keeping the ball up and getting the ball
up to the zone.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Offensive Google here key for us tonight.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
And you know, Logan kind of a lot of couple
starts had been really better about generating a lot of
seas missed him and straight down the black.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
But if you've seen the way you've kind of uh
he continued.
Speaker 8 (21:24):
That Pattman alley and starting to hit a lot more,
but that would Yeah, you know, we've talked a lot
about Logan and and uh, you know, his success being
you know, using all his stuff and and he's got
multiple weapons and and uh, you know, I think he's
getting more.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
And more comfortable here.
Speaker 8 (21:38):
I think it's the experience of pitching here and understanding it, uh,
you know more each time he.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
Goes out there.
Speaker 8 (21:44):
It's certainly helpful, but understanding his stuff and and learning
how to use it, and uh, certainly the catcher's understanding that.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
At the same time, I think.
Speaker 8 (21:52):
It's all, you know, been a great step for him
each time he's gone out there, and and uh, you know,
there's some some more of the swinging a big part
of that as well.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Dan Wilson there Mariners manager Andrews. I've liked what I've
seen from Logan Evans so far. I mean, you look
at the stats and I mean the three three ERA,
I'm still, you know, very classic, and I love, you know,
the deeper analytics stuff. I don't understand all of it,
but I do understand ERA, and I like that. I
mean the outing yaty against the White Sox last week.
I mean, yeah, it was an awesome six innings, pitch,
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six hits, fourign runs, gave up three home runs. They
still won the game. But it's a guy who's, as
Dan said, they're figuring out his stuff, and I like
what I've been seeing when he's kind of come in
very little expectations, he's done well.
Speaker 9 (22:36):
Yeah, he's the perfect guy to kind of come in
when you have a bunch of injuries. I think he
wouldn't be a lot of teams. In a lot of
teams original starting five rotations, but like I said, not
a lot of teams have the depth the Mariners do
to be able to when they have three pitching injuries
at a time, to be able to call on Logan
Evans and Emerson Hancock as well. So yeah, he's a
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perfect guy to kind of rely on, get you some innings,
kind of keep you in the game a little bit.
But he's not gonna be one where I don't think,
at least this year. Maybe farther down the road and
that could be a possibility for him, but he's not
gonna be one where you're like, Okay, we're gonna expect
six innings of two run baseball r exactly, And that's
gonna be the biggest thing I think for him moving
forward is to find out the length how you get
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through a lineup for the third time and when guys
have seen you multiple times before. So that's gonna be
the next step for him in his career. But I,
like you said, I think he's been fine. I'm probably
a little lower on him than a lot of other
Mariners people are, just because I think our top five
are so, so, so, so good.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
It's really hard to be up to that level, exactly,
and I think that that's a good justification for staying
with a five man rotation when anybody is everybody is healthy.
We'll see what happens when they get these guys back
if they do switch to a six or if they
stay at a five, as ty Ding Gonzalez from the
Locked On Mariners podcast also rights for Emeralds to do spectrum.
He was on with us at four o'clock Cheer the
(24:00):
podcast in case you missed that. He was talking about
a piece from Daniel Kramer where it doesn't sound like
the Mariners are thinking about a six man rotation at
this moment, but it's interesting to think about, you know,
depending on what Emerson Hancock continues to do, depending on
the injury statuses of these pitchers and when they get back. Andrews,
I want to take a look very quickly before we
(24:21):
hit the break and hear from Brian Schmitzer about this
nine game homestand three against the Nationals, then you have
three against the Twins, and you have three against the Orioles.
That takes you through next Thursday. Obviously, the Nationals below
five hundred, the Twins right now or third in the
Al Central with the opposite record of the Nationals. The
Twins are twenty nine and twenty four, and then the Orioles,
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which I mean, they're inexplicably terrible this year, completely unexpected,
just a shocker. Nineteen and thirty four on the season,
last place in the Al East by a large margin,
so absolutely mind blowing. How bad the Orioles are. If
I could hand you over right now and say, you
go five and four on this homestand do you take
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it or do you risk it to go six and
three or better? Yeah, I think I go.
Speaker 9 (25:07):
I think I have higher expectations at the homestand that
I did the road trip that we just had. I
think you have to win the National Series. I think
you should win the Baltimore Series, the Minnesota one. Yeah, maybe,
maybe that's the only one where I think, Okay, if
you drop two out of three, that's not the end
of the world. That's a team that's been really hot lately.
They've their pitching has been just as good as the
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Mariners has recently.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
So you take six and three, yeah, yea. I take
six and three for sure.
Speaker 9 (25:32):
I just have higher expectations for this team, and I
think they need to start kind of having those for
themselves for them to take that next step.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
We'll see how they started off tonight, six forty first
pitch out at Tmobile Park, Logan Evans on the mound
for the Mariners facing the Washington Nationals out at lumin
Field and right next door. Tomorrow we are going to
see Sounders playing a kind of happy hour game. Usually
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Speaker 2 (26:33):
Should be hearing from Seattle Sounders FC head coach Brian
Schmetzer in just a couple of minutes. Part of this
anders might just be the fact that he knows that
we're on today and it's not Softie and it's not
Dick Fane, and if it's not those things, he might
be you know, there was it was funny. There was
a couple of weeks ago where there was a Open
CuPy US Open Cup, which is kind of just like
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a secondary tournament game for the Seattle Sounders, right, and
Brian was supposed to be calling us from the stadium,
and he was on his way driving to the stadium
and he just lost track of time and he ended
up kind of just not joining and very very apologetic
at the stadium. He came up to me at the
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press box there at Starfire Sports Complex and said, I'm
so sorry. I'm so sorry. So undoubtedly he's going to
be sorry again.
Speaker 9 (27:21):
Or he won't be will or he's doing this on purpose,
he's just messing.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
With He might be messing he might be doing this
on purpose. Either way, Brian Schenzer, you're gonna get it
from me when you when you're listening and you're not
calling us. Yeah, we'll get in touch with I'll send
a text to Brian and say why aren't you calling here,
But we'll talk with him in a couple of minutes.
As the Sounders are coming off of a one nothing
win over FC Dallas on Saturday, a game where they
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were clearly the better team, but it took all the
way until the eighty sixth minute, the very very end
of the game for them to finally get a goal
and finally get the win over Dallas. So they have
a two man matches this week. All they have a
three matches in nine days. Match tomorrow will be second
of this stretch. It's against San Diego. That's gonna be
a five o'clock pre match show and a five thirty kickoff.
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It's gonna be over on nine to fifty KJR AM
tomorrow evening. And Andrews, I thank you for jumping in
and taking over the con. Yeah, well I go do
that wow star Trek reference. Oh yeah, of course I
have to have to throw that. And then Minnesota coming
up on Sunday at lumen Field as well. That's a
three pm game on Sunday. But it's a Sounder team
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that you know, it's a San Diego team they're facing
tomorrow who beat him three to nothing back on April fifth,
and since then the club has gone pretty well five wins,
one loss, two draws. It's been a pretty successful run
since the loss in San Diego. The only question for
the Sounders Anders is, you know, can they you know,
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continue this relatively you know hot streak outside of a
couple of games. You know they've they've been the better
team in a lot of these games. But I don't know.
I know you right about the Sounders for Emerald City Spectrum.
What has stood out to you about this specifically this
last nine game stretch or so.
Speaker 9 (29:10):
Well, the first kind of obvious point for anyone who's
kind of into the tactical workings of a soccer team,
it's it's been the formation change from the three four
three to the four two three one. I think, well,
I guess we can ask him if he joins us,
if he ever decides to call it, But I think
a lot of the thinking behind the three four three
is it actually fit the profiles of a lot of
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players on this team. You look at the wing backs
that the Sounders have, and it like someone like Alex
rolled On I think would really really benefit from having
being higher up the field, being more involved in the offense.
You also have like someone like Haesus Ferrera who isn't
necessarily a striker, isn't necessarily a winger, but also isn't
necessarily a ten like those two underneath this, like the strikers,
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I think like his perfect kind of position altogether, where
he doesn't have to be the guy that's the highest
and has to stretch the field a little bit, but
he can kind of provide and do what he needs
to do in that position. I like the idea of
getting little bit of Argus more involved offensively instead of
having him drop back deeper in the double pivot. But
I think just the overall familiarity of the four two
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three one, because they've played it basically ever since Brian
has been here, has really helped this team kind of
be like, oh, Okay, I know my role in this,
even if it's maybe not the most conducive to my
specific playing style. Just having that overall like camaraderie and
knowing what you're supposed to do is going to be
a huge difference.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I think. So, and you got a player, you know,
your team MVP of last year in Albert Rusnak, who's
you know, you made a team record last year for
number of assists across all competitions over a season, I
mean set that record. And he's now way more comfortable
getting back to the four two three one. So having
him with a newcomer Ryan Kenton Pedro on the other
wing is just the comfortability for him in that spot.
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It's kind of a lot I think the best of
that entire midfield. The only question is, you know, can
they get a striker up top? Yeah, who fits with them?
Because yeah, Danny Mazoski. Then Danny Mazoski got hurt. Yeah,
Jordan Morris, but Jordan Morris has hurt. Ferreira isn't a
true nine. As we've talked about the kid from the
lower division. Basically, you know the Tacomae nears sergeon. Yeah,
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the comment defiances is the version of that for the
Sounders and Osase der Rosario. You know, we haven't seen
enough from him to make I think a true judgment
at the higher level. So you know, all these things.
The midfield is great, but you just need somebody who
I think can consistently and and be healthy up there
to help out the attack up top.
Speaker 9 (31:40):
Yeah, and like I think Mussovsky was kind of that.
I wrote about earlier what the kind of resurgence in
Musovsky has been this year and why he's been so
much more successful than someone like the name of Hasus Ferrera,
who's done it at this level, at the MLS level.
He's done it even at the national team level for
a while, but Lusovsky was the one who seemed to
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be working a little bit more in terms of at
least you know what he brings to the table. And
I think one of the reasoning is because the Sounders
have so many creative players that they don't have trouble
creating chances. Whether it's an Albert Rusknak, Pedro De la Vega,
Christian Roll, don Obed Vargas, so many different places where
you can create a chance, you need someone to finish
those chances. And you know, there has been a little
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bit of a revolution in the world game about kind
of total football, as they say, like you don't have
a true striker. Everyone can kind of play the role
of finishing off the play. Everyone's kind of a part
of the build up. That is all well and good,
but when you don't have someone that you're trying to
serve the ball into, it hurts your team's ability to
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score goals. And I think that's Danny Musovski's best trait
in terms of this team. He makes the run, he
gets into the dirty areas, he's there on the end
of crosses. They're not all pretty goals. If you look
at his what six goals seven goals so far this season.
They're all like within the six year box or maybe
just a little bit outside of it, tap ins here
and there, but you need someone to finish those plays off.
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So that's why I think he's been such a kind
of revelation for the Sounders this year, and it's someone
that they've been missing in that role since the kind
of decline of Raoul Ruidiaz.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Well, I'll tell you what. Miszowski was out there at
training today. He was a part of the group. So
we'll see what he can give them in this two
game week where San Diego tomorrow and then Minnesota on Sunday.
We still haven't heard from Brian Schmittzer. We hope everything's
okay with the head coach. Maybe we'll get him at
the top of the hour. Maybe we won't, But I'll
tell you what we are gonna do. We're gonna get
a break, We're gonna come back. We'll maybe get to Schmetzer,
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but we will get to your texts regardless. You make
the call. Time make the call. I will find I
haven't hit one softie drop the entire show. That's a
good one. I will I will go out over the
next few minutes, and I will search for Softies. You
make the call drop, we will get to your texts.
Hopefully we hear from Brian Schmittzer, Hopefully everything's okay with him,
and we'll continue on this Tuesday afternoon here on Sports
(33:58):
Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. And you know what,
anders I don't even think our next guest deserves for
me to put the sounders in the headlines after he
decided to wait fifteen minutes to call us on on
on Brian, the first show I've ever hosted. I was
banking on you joining us at five forty five. You'd
be playing a prank on me. Is everything okay? What's
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going on?
Speaker 6 (34:21):
I was on the phone with Softy?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Oh well that makes all the sense in the world now, yeah, okay,
so I have him to blame, having.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
A conversation in my head with Softy and I just yeah,
it was a wild conversation.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Well as all conversations with Softy usually are. I'm sorry
that you had to experience that, but hey, listen, you
get to talk to us myself, anders Hurst here.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
We're in for Softy. Yeah I am anders Here played
underneath Pete Fewing at Seattle University. So this we've we've
tried this show not to go full soccer, but we're
excited to talk some sounders with you here for a
few minutes. Brian, let's start with this. You get the
one nothing win over Dallas last weekend in a game
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that I think a lot of us felt like you
didn't play your best, but you end up still getting
the three points after looking at the film, after looking
at the tape. But what stood out about your team's
performance there on Saturday?
Speaker 6 (35:21):
Good first half, not so good second half. I think
that was the tail of the tape. Although look, the
penalty came in the second half, the score, the three
points came in the second half, So who am I
to complained? But there was some good stuff. I mean
there was some There were some good attacking sequences, and
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it just seems like, you know, we ran out of
either shem or you know, the turf, the heat, the
opponent got a little better. You could say that we
just weren't as functional in the second half, but we
got the job done.
Speaker 9 (35:57):
Yeah, Brian, thanks so much for joining us once again
and hurst here with you. So the goal scorer in
that second half Albert Rusknack seems like he's taken almost
another level this year. I know he had a really
good season last year was your team MVP, broke a
Sounders record for assists in a single MLS season. But
it's almost like he's adding another goal scoring element to
his game. What's behind all that and what's been behind
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his kind of resurgence in play here?
Speaker 5 (36:23):
Well?
Speaker 6 (36:23):
I love it because if he can beat last year's points, totals,
goals and assists, that would be awesome because last year
was I think his best, I think his career best
for him. So you know what's behind it? I would
tell you that he's motivated. He's signed a new deal.
We were eight minutes away from overtime in a conference final.
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You know Heyesus Ferrera, Paul Ariola, some new blood, some
you know, some competition at different spots on the field.
You know, it's not just Albert and Jordan anymore. There's
other talented guys on the team. I think is a
culmination of a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Brian Spencer's our guest Sounders FC head coach. Sounders playing
tomorrow night at Lumen Field. Got a five thirty game
at Lumen against San Diego. We'll get to San Diego
here a minute here, Brian, but you know this week
that you have facing San Diego tomorrow and then Minnesota
on Sunday, because they're spaced out a little bit differently.
Usually we see kind of the Saturday, Wednesday, Saturday. Because
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you have a game not Saturday, but Sunday against Minnesota,
how does that change what you're able to I mean,
not to give away your entire starting lineup, but how
does that fundamentally change the philosophy on what you could
go into tomorrow doing. Do you have to necessarily rotate
as much as you would if it was a Saturday
game against Minnesota instead of Sunday.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
Jackson, you're a well informed radio host, Accionado. Yes, it
gives me much more flexibility as far as the recovery
and starting guys. Remember last week when we were on
the roads for three games, is Wednesday, Saturday, both on
the road, both would travel. I mean that's when you
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put guys at injury risks. So we're three games at home,
an extra day sandwich in between each one. So it
gives me the freedom to a number one pick the
same lineup if I choose to and be number two.
I can make in the in game substitutions a little
earlier because you know, guys have to stay fresh for
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the last game or the third game in the week.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Brian, it's just us here. And you had that road
week where you had three games, you had four points
out of the possible nine with the one to one
and one record. Just just us here, nobody else is listening.
What point total would make you happy out of these
three games? You know, it doesn't have to be nine.
Speaker 6 (38:46):
Of the home games. Yeah, this week for home games.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Have you with anything less than nine?
Speaker 6 (38:53):
No, I wouldn't be because we need to. Look we're
playing against That was kind of a loaded question, Jackson.
I mean, here the deal. We want to we want
to we're undefeated at home, like I think you've said that.
We we've made mention of that on the air. Uh.
You know, we're playing against San Diego, Minnesota and then Vancouver.
Although that's a way, but we're playing against the top
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three teams in the conference. So that's that's pretty daunting.
It's pretty challenging. But the guys are up for the task.
And again we've got these next two at home.
Speaker 9 (39:23):
Well, all my questions are loaded, Brian, just just so
you know, yeah, you won't find anything other than that.
But Coach, I want to ask you about Hayesus Freira
because I think there's been a little bit of a
I don't want to say frustration, but almost like where
are the goals?
Speaker 6 (39:38):
Why?
Speaker 9 (39:38):
Why aren't we seeing more gold production from him? He
was one of your big offseason signings. I just want
to ask you how much you evaluate his play in
terms of gold production. Because he is one of your forwards,
you do expect him to score some goals, create some
chances for other teammates as well, But what what other
parts of the game does he do well in that
kind of because there's more than just scoring goals in
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the game and being a role on the team.
Speaker 6 (40:05):
For sure. But the fans when they saw the price tag,
you know what, what we paid for him, what we
had to give up. You know, he's already scored fifty
plus goals in MLS. Yeah, the expectations were there, I
would I might call it the fans were a little discontent.
What I've talked to Heyeseus about is, look, it's gonna come.
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He does feel some internal pressure, you know, he's a
proud guy. He wants to score goals, he wants to
help the team. I've countered that with yes, and here
he's he's got some other qualities to his game. His
defending is real good. He's got seven assists in all competitions.
So it's not like he's you know, not helped the
team win. It's just in that you know, spotlight of
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goal scoring. He's he's got to he's got to get
it done.
Speaker 9 (40:53):
Yeah, And I want to ask a very similar one
with Pedro de la Vega because I think in a
different way because of just the lack of avail ability
in his first year and then like this year with
his I think I think people have such sky high
expectations for him, him taking the number ten jersey, being
one of your main guys, and it seems like he
puts that pressure on himself as well. I want you
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to evaluate where he's at at his point in his
career in a similar sort of way.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (41:20):
Well, when he got a six point five million dollar
price tag on your back, sometimes that can weigh you down.
The number ten jersey, Remember who wore that last You know,
Nicol Ladero is a big shoe to fill. Sometimes they
get the feeling. Sometimes they get the feeling that, yes,
he tries to do too much. You know, I think
that was real evidence last year. I think this year
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he smoothed out a little bit. You know, he's a
much better athlete. He understands MLS. It's way different than
you know, his time down in Argentina. You know where
the Traveler is, its long and recovery and you know,
just it's just different. MLS is a different beast. So
he's doing better. And you know, look, I would remind
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everybody that you know, we signed him as a youth DP,
which is different than the DP tag. Now we've switched
things around a little bit, you know, we we've done
things to accommodate Heyzeus and some of the other guys
on that on the team. So you know, some of
that tag, you know, he's got to own, but some
of it, you know, it's just expectations that you know,
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fans always have.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Brian Schmetzer's with US Sounders FC head coach preparing to
face San Diego tomorrow at Luminfield at five thirty. SOUNDERSFC
dot com slash tickets to head out there and enjoy
tomorrow evening's game it should be an absolutely beautiful one kickoff.
I think about eighty degrees at kickoff. It's gonna be
hot out there. Brian, It's now time of the interview
where we ask about injuries and you give us all
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the information regarding injuries. Let's start with Danny Mzosky. Andrews
and I were just talking about Danny in the previous
segment and you know kind of just how unforeseen this
awesome last stretch for him has been. But we know
about the injury he got last week. So what's going
on with Danny Mazowski and what's his status not only
for tomorrow but this throughout this entire week.
Speaker 6 (43:06):
Well, he will be he will be available for selection. Uh,
he will be on the bench. I can tell you that. Uh.
He had he had a problem in his glue and
he's just trying to fight through it. It's painful, but
you know he's a tough kid. Uh. That was you know,
disappointing because it might have you know, derailed the train
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a little bit because he was certainly rolling. He was,
you know, scoring goals, feeling good. So a little bit
of a disappointment, but he's be available.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Jay margome Is Andrade we know hamstring from this last
week against Dallas. How's he doing. What's the prognosis in
terms of how long he'll be out?
Speaker 6 (43:46):
Yeah, Imar is going to tell you that he's going
to be back in two weeks. Hey, coach, I can
do this two weeks the trainers. The trainers are saying,
you know, maybe four four plus. Uh. It is not
a you know, see, he's an ending hamstring toll. But
it is certainly something the MRI did show some damage.
So we're going to take it cautiously. We have to
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fight through the fact that he really wants to make
it back to the Club World Cup, but you know,
the regular season is more important, so we'll we'll keep
our eye on him. And he's a tough kid as well.
He's been pretty quick coming back from some of his
previous injuries.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Certainly, I love that the tough kid drop and the
fact that we got that. That's that's that's good news there.
And funny you lose one defender, another defender on his
way back. Jackson Reagan, how is he doing? Is he
going to be able to make one of these matches
this week?
Speaker 7 (44:40):
Yeah, he is.
Speaker 6 (44:41):
He'll be on the bench and you know, hopefully he'll
see some minutes or I'm going to try and get
him some minutes, and then after tomorrow, hopefully no setbacks,
then we'll give him the green light to be back
in full.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Okay, great, And then last thing before Andrews asks about
San Diego coming up tomorrow, Jordan Morris. We haven't gotten
a full Jordan Morris here on the show on kJ
R in a couple of weeks. You know, he's been
working back from his hamstring. I guess the timeline obviously
looking at the Club World Cup now just less than
a few weeks away. Are we going to potentially hopefully
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see Jordan for that tournament, if not sooner that.
Speaker 6 (45:20):
Is that is a great question, you know. I think
I might have hinted at it today in the scrum,
in the media scrum, but look, I'd love to announce
the softy dick you Anders, Jordan's on track to be
back for the Vancouver Matt oh and and then if
he can, you know, keep progressing like he's shown, there's
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a good chance we'll see him in some way, shape
or form during the Club World Cup.
Speaker 9 (45:48):
I love to hear that, Kurt, You're really excited to
get him back. All right, what about San Diego? You
guys go up against a team that you lost three
zero against when he went down to their place earlier.
But that kind of marked the beginning of this new
run of form for your guys' team. So what makes
them so good? What what kind of a challenge are
you facing tomorrow night.
Speaker 6 (46:09):
Well, I got to give mikey Varis credit. You know,
he plays a specific style. They're a possession based team.
I think they're number two in possession in MLS, starting
with their goalkicks way back in front of their own net.
They're not afraid to try and possess the ball, draw
you out, get past you. You know, they got good players.
Chucky Lozano, we didn't play against him down there in
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San Diego, Mexican international, super super player. They've got dryer,
they've got they've got some big names, they've got some
medium names that are playing really well. What I would
say is it's a little bit of a surprise, because
you know, expansion teams, there's always that, you know, that
label that they have to ship. But they've actually done
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great and they they haven't looked like an expansion team
in a lot of their games. Uh, that was our
worst result of the season, and in my mind because
the three goals were you know, we just fell asleep
in the first minute on a corner kick and then
a couple of transition moments where guys just didn't do
the jobs they were supposed to do. So I chalk
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that down to, you know, just a bad performance and
we're looking to get back at it.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Yeah, get some revenge on tomorrow night at Looman, San
Diego is coming off of a two to one win
over the LA Galaxy. Bro, can you believe fifteen games
into the season, the LA Galaxy, who won the entire
championship last year, still don't have a single win fifteen
games into the season. Can you believe that.
Speaker 6 (47:36):
That is perhaps the story of the year. Amongst all
the coaches, the you know, the staff around the league,
I mean, what is Greg doing? I mean, look, Greg's
a good coach. I mean I coached against them in Toronto.
Speaker 4 (47:50):
She won it.
Speaker 6 (47:52):
Yeah, I know, but you know, it's it's it's something
that's out of my control. But it certainly is something
that talk about around the water cooler.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
This certainly is out here in the Sounder media land. Brian,
thanks so much. Good luck tomorrow against San Diego. Appreciate
the time, all right, take care of guys. That's Brian Schmitzer,
Sounders FC head coach once again. Well pre match five
o'clock tomorrow, nine to fifty KJR am for Sounders at
versus San Diego out at lumen Field. Hope to see
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everybody out there. And once again, Anders, thanks to you
for again taking over my duties. Gone out there. I
appreciate it. What do you say? We have a just
a few minutes here, and we didn't get enough in textimonials,
so I've never done this thing. Let's let's see if
this makes any sense. If this works, you make the call.
(48:43):
Safti's magical wall. Actually you make the call. Holy here,
I thought he was hitting some random things. Sometimes that
actually works, alright, Andrews, what do we got on the text?
Speaker 5 (48:52):
All right?
Speaker 9 (48:53):
From the two h six Jackson? You have to make
the call which is stronger?
Speaker 2 (48:58):
Anders?
Speaker 9 (48:58):
Disdain for the s Portland Timbers or the Edmonton Oilers.
Oh think carefully.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
See it's funny because we haven't talked too much hockey.
I'm not the biggest hockey Yeah, that's fair, So we
haven't talked too much hockey. Yeah, but I do know
you hate Portland. I do so my initial thought just
off off of that would be Portland. But I don't
know how much you truly hate Edmonton. It's in two
different ways, ok.
Speaker 9 (49:24):
I think historically, if you're my whole life, Yes, I've
been raised to say that Portland sucks as all Seattle
I should.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
And we heard from Brian recently on an interview as well.
We have that drop. I will find it somewhere.
Speaker 9 (49:37):
But lately, especially with my growing presence, shall I say,
with the Kraken and how much I've involved with their
organization and how I've come to from originally from the
outside looking in, but now from inside looking out, about
how fan bases interact with.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
One of each other.
Speaker 9 (49:57):
Edmonton Oilers fans when they come to climb up Pledge
Arena are some of the most annoying groups of really
that I've ever heard. And it's so funny how they're
so arrogant, but they still have not won in such
a long time. So yeah, that's kind of where I
get it. So I'll root for that against them. Excuse me, fraternity,
Let me try this plan.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
The only bad thing is I have no idea where
I just put the you make the call? It is
you make the call. What's next?
Speaker 9 (50:29):
Let's see? Oh, okay from the rod the two six?
What's your favorite summer fruit?
Speaker 2 (50:35):
Pineapple? I'm a big pineapple guy. I could I could
eat a pound of pineapple every single day, just shovel
it into my face.
Speaker 5 (50:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (50:44):
That that's a great answer, and that's probably mine as well.
I also love myself some raspberries. Give me some raspberries,
I will eat the entire bin. However big the bin.
You give me a raspberries, I will eat the entire thing.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
The worst part, Uh, you know I should phrase this
correctly here because I know she's listening. Okay, but I
love my wife, but having to split the raspberries or
split the fruit that I actually like with her. I
would like to have the entire container of fruit myself,
but I know that I need to leave her half.
So yeah, I love you, but I want all the fruits.
Sometimes last the call, last one before we get out
(51:18):
of here.
Speaker 9 (51:19):
Guys, you have a Hollywood Weekly show, so I'm curious
on your thoughts on and or I.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Have it right now as the seventh best show I've
ever seen. You all I've made it very clear that
I have a list of one hundred and thirty shows
that I've seen I have and Or Lost has been
my top show, Scrubs, Friday Night Lights, The Good Place,
Ted Lasso, The Office, and and Or came in at
number seven. And Or is the best piece of science
fiction content ever period. End of story. A Star Wars guy,
(51:48):
it is twenty four episodes of pure perfection. Maybe outstand
the first few of season two or not. Not awesome
but spectacular show.
Speaker 9 (51:57):
Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I have it abol even higher.
It's probably in my top five. I haven't done an
extensive list like you have, but it's definitely a top
five show for me. And yeah, anyone who has any
sort of interest in Star Wars, especially the original trilogy,
like I understand if the prequels aren't your thing, go
check it out because it's awesome. It kind of tells
the story of how the Rebellion gets formed in a great,
(52:19):
great way.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Great show, indeed,
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I'm in for Dave Softymuller and Dick Fane. Hi, my
name is Jackson Felts. John, I get to talk to
you for more than thirty seconds for the first time.
How are you, buddy.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I'm great, Jackson.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
I feel like I have upgraded from economy class to
business class.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I am delighted to join you.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, you're not at first class yet. We're not going
to give you that much legroom, but we are going
to give you enough. We're not gonna play the what
you're talking about, Wilner sound effect. We're not gonna clown you, cause, John,
we have business to get to. We have a lot
to talk about. Man. It's it's been a while since
we talked to you, and the last time we did,
there was not a new model for the college football
playoffs straight seeding. Top four teams get the top four spots.
(01:06):
So you know, Boise State, Arizona State last season, they
wouldn't get buys in this new model. Why are we
here and how did we get here?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Well, we're here because the SEC and the Big Ten
kind of wanted it basically, and the other ten or
the other eight conferences in Notre Dame agreed to the change.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
I view it kind of as.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
The Oregon rule, right because Oregon just had a you
could call it the Poison State rule too. But you know,
the way it worked out for Oregon is they ended
up playing their the one seed, but they weren't playing
the eight seed. Ohio State was better than that, but
because of the way they had formatted everything, the Ducks
ended up playing a.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Better team than they should have drawn.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Now we're gonna get twelve teams ranked the last after
the conference championships, and the seeding will correlate directly to
the ranking. It's gonna be the same format with the
top four seeds get buys in the opening round, but
those could be all four teams from the same conference,
or it could be two from the SEC and two
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from the Big Ten. No longer are the highest ranked
conference champions awarded automatically the top four seeds.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
And I think that was a smart move.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, no, I think there is potential for danger if
those teams do come from all one conference, if we
end up in that regard. But you're all right, as
you alluded to, I mean, the Oregon rule was a
perfect way to say it, you know, in the sense
of well, I mean last season, they would have ended
up facing not the winner of Ohio State Tennessee, they
would have faced you know what was it, like Indiana
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or Boise State or somewhere in the the next round.
So it definitely comes at a good time for US.
John Wilner's with US San Jose Mercury News Wilner Howland,
the baron of the Big Ten as we now call him.
And you know, your first comment there was about how
much the Big Ten the SEC wanted this, And one
of the big things that I'm kind of reading on
social media is how much Greg sant sank excuse me,
(03:08):
the SEC commissioner is going off right now. He says
he's all open minded about the format, but it certainly
sounds like he is pushing hard and desperately once four
guaranteed spots in the playoff to go to the SEC.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Well, this is the hottest topick in college sports right
now is the format of the playoff starting in twenty
twenty six, So we got one more year. This upcoming
season is going to be twelve teams, but then starting
in twenty six it could be anything, and it looks
like it's going to be sixteen teams. And the SEC
and Big Ten seem to favor a model where they
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would each get four automatic bids. No matter what happens
during the regular season, they would have four and each
have four spots. The ACC and the Big twelve would
have two each. Then there'd be one for the top
group of five and one at large so or three
at large sorry, and Notre Dame would have access to
(04:07):
one of those at larges.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
So basically, the SEC.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
And Big Ten are trying to, you know, preserve spots
ahead of time, regardless of what the results say.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
And the reason they're doing that is they don't trust
the committee.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
They want to add games during the regular season. The
Big Ten wants to add a crossover game against the SEC.
The SEC wants to add a ninth conference game in
addition to the Big Ten matchup. They both want to
add play in games on conference championship weekend.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
All of these things are designed to get more TV money, but.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
All of them also could result in more losses, and
because they don't trust the committee with giving, you know,
way to strengthen schedule as opposed to loss totals, they're
trying to basically insulate themselves from that problem by creating
automatic bids. That's kind of a long way of saying it,
(05:05):
but it's all about getting more money out of regular
season TV games and then protecting yourself from having extra losses.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
That makes sense. John Wilner with us, and I just
hope they have a better name than the four four
one two three model that's being described in all these
various numbers. That there's got to be better names for
these things. But at the end of the day, they
should call it.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
They should call it, I'm sorry interrupt, the Tony Pettitti model,
because it's really even though Greg Sankie from the SEC
has been taking a lot of heat in public and
talked about it the other day, it's really the Big
tens idea. Uh, but Tony Pettiti, the Big ten commissioner,
has not been basically in a public forum where he
(05:51):
is forced to answer questions from the media. Sanki has
been in public and so he's kind of taken the
heat for some.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
That was really the Big tens idea.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
A TD model. I like that, John, If you were king,
what would you do? What would be your model?
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Well, I would not go to sixteen. I kind of
like what. I like twelve. I thought it was great.
I do think they needed to switch the seeds and
the rankings, but I like twelve. I would not want
the I think that the buye is a.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Competitive disadvantage and again we saw that with Oregon. But
I like twelve.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I think sixteen's too many. And here's the other piece.
Problem with sixteen is where do you play the extra games?
Because right now they have the four opening round games
are on the weekend before Christmas. That is also a
weekend where you've got three NFL games on Saturday plus
the NFL game on Thursday.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
You can't add four more games that weekend.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
So what they're trying to do, what they're talking about doing,
if they go to sixteen, is have like playing games
on what is now the weekend of the Army Navy
game and the Heisman. It's the second Saturday December. So
you'd have sixteen playing thirteen, and you'd have fourteen playing fifteen,
essentially as playing games to the main event, which would
(07:16):
then start the following weekend. I think that's a terrible idea.
I don't think the college football public wants to see
a version of the first four that we get in basketball.
So that's a big issue with going to sixteen is
where do you play the game at extra games and.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
How do you format it.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I'm with you, I just there's just too much in
that regard. We already have NFL anyway, and I mean,
I'm with you, But at the same time, I mean,
the money's you're gonna speak, and the networks are gonna speak,
and if they want it and the money's there, then
no doubt they're gonna get it. John Wilner with us
San Jose a Mercury News Wilner Hotline as well. You
can follow him on Twitter at Wilner Hotline. John. I
(07:55):
want to talk to you about as well, the fluidity
with the draft specific for college basketball players, because one
of the things that I've seen over the last couple
of days Memphis is PJ. Haggarty. Also, I think today
Alex Connon of Florida, they both said, you know what,
even though we kind of declared and looked at the draft,
we're going to go back to school. And I think
for PJ. Haggerty is actually gonna transfer as well a
(08:17):
Kansas State. But you know, it makes me kind of
happy because I see these guys kind of saying, you
know what, we did the homework. I know we re
looked deep into the draft, but we said to ourselves, now,
you know, this isn't time for me. I'm going to
go back. And I kind of wish that the NFL
would follow suit. In the NCAA football would follow suit
where if a kid has the ability to say, yeah,
(08:38):
I'm gonna go to the draft, does all the homework,
Maybe let him go to the combine, let him go
deep into the process. But if you know, a month
before the draft he says, you know what, this isn't
gonna work for me, then let him go back. I
guess I look at the shdur Sanders case and in
so many other cases and I say, why not let
the kids go back if they figure out after the
(08:58):
whole process that they screwed up.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Well, I think we're going to eventually get there with
the NFL, and I think that we're going to get
to the point and it may take a few years
where you can actually be drafted and then go back
to school and decide, you know what, I'm just going back.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
I'm just going back in. You know, the.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
NFL is a little different because you have to have
three year you have to be three years out of
high school, right.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Whereas in the NBA is only one year.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
A lot of this is based on the collective arguing
agreements at the pro level more than it is at
the you know anything, at the college level.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
But I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
I think the NFL and the NCAA should let a
player declare for the draft, which is usually right around
January twentieth, and then go through the process, certainly go
through the combine, right at least get through Indianapolis in
late February, and then have the option to come back
to school.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
I think that that's, you know, perfectly reasonable.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
It would complicate an already difficult situation for coaches with
their roster management though, because of the transfer portal, right,
I mean, it's already hard enough, and then you've got,
you know, five guys who are.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Say they're leaving, and then they want to come back,
you know. So there may be pushback from coaches, but
I think that in.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Fairness, the courts will eventually somebody's gonna challenge that it
will eventually rule in favor of the players.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Speaking of courts, John, where we stand with the House
Settlement case.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Everybody's waiting for the judge. It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
College sports is basically on hold while everyone waits for
a judge in the Northern District of California to issue
her ruling on this the House Settlement, And the presumption
is that she is going.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
To approve it.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
But if she doesn't, it's just gonna be complete lawlessness,
and I don't know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
At that point.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
State rules will take take over and schools will probably
just start playing paying their players, even though it's not
technically an lay rule, because this state law would supersede
anything else.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
But everyone's hoping she does approve it.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
It would lend a little bit of order and it
would allow them to begin this NIL enforcement arm that
they're trying to implement by which you know, an NIL
deal would have to get approved as fair market value
by Deloitte, and if it's not, then there's gonna be
an enforcement arm that could potentially penalize the school or
(11:29):
the player for a deal that's above fair market value.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Geez, the legs of that and how that connects And
you mentioned NIL and it sort of connects back to
the previous question. You know, the details of sdur Sanders
first year or first four year contract with the Cleveland
Browns came out where he's over the next four years
he's gonna be making only four point six million dollars,
(11:55):
making nine hundred and fifty two thousand dollars in the
first year of this rookie deal with the Browns. That
compared to an estimated five point one million dollars in
NIL his deals last year with Colorado. I mean, for
a guy like Shadur, that is a definite warning sign.
I think it's a nice warning sign to maybe give
(12:15):
a lesson to players like him. Off boy, if you
have a cushy deal, why take the even if you
have a few pole saying you're gonna be a first
round pick. Why take the risk if you have that
kind of NIL money.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
No, for sure.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Now he his particular situation, right, Obviously the family does
not need the money.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
But there's a lot of guys for whom that does apply.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
And we've seen the numbers come down in terms of
how many players are declaring early for the NFL Draft
and how many underclassmen are leaving early for the NBA draft.
In both cases, the numbers are down from where they
were three or four years ago before.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
The nil era began.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Lots of kids borderline first round. You know, NFL if
your borderline day so two day three, they're coming back.
And it's in a lot of cases it's smart, work
on your game and get get some money, yeah, and
position yourself for the future in a much more stable situation.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
You no longer have to jump to get the bag
of for sure. John Wilner is with.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Us, and you can come back to college and go
to a different school.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, right, exactly. If you don't like the system in you,
if you don't like the coach, if you don't like
the place you're living, you can transfer and make it.
I mean, that's what PJ. Haggerty's doing. Right declared for
the NBA Draft, said nah, I'm gonna stay in college,
and then says, yeah, but I don't like Memphis. I'm
gonna go to Kansas State.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
I mean, well, another kid's doing that, Darian Williams, who
was a really good player for Texas Tech. He came
back from the NBA Draft and he's going to transfer
to NC State.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
Yeah. So multiple cases of that for sure.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, exactly, And maybe you get a few more bucks
by transferring. It's just the freedom to athletes right now.
But again we're you know, the waiting for the House
settlement case to see you know, what happens there with
that judge will certainly change things. John, Before I let
you go, I saw that you did a deep dive
into the financials of the PAC twelve. You covered the
revenue plunge or relocation costs, executive pays. You said, quote,
(14:08):
the seeds of destruction are everywhere. How bad is it
for the PAC twelve.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
Well, it was bad.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
And just to be clear to listeners, this was for
the twenty twenty four fiscal year, so fall at twenty
three spring of twenty four. It was the last year
of the PAC twelve before the ten schools scattered, and
that year included the ten departing schools having to contribute
six and a half million bucks each to Washington State
(14:38):
and Oregon State included some of the damage financial damage
from that Comcast over payment scandal. It included costs that
the PAC twelve had to shutter the office in San Francisco.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
And move to the East Bay.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
So the end result is that, you know, the Washington's
and Oregons and USC's and Utah's, they have a lot
less revenue in conference revenue compared to their peers in
their new conferences in FY twenty four, kind of putting
them further behind on that front, making budgets even tighter.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
John, before we wrap really quick, because we were going
to play this clip earlier on the show. We didn't
end up having time. Petro's Papadoccus, our good friend who
is on our show tomorrow at four o'clock. I know
he was on Gonzano's podcast last week. He's pretty angry
right now because of Lincoln'reiley trying to wiggle his way
out of the rivalry with Notre Dame. I guess a
(15:37):
what is Lincoln'reiley doing? Seeing as how that seems to
be a rivalry that's good for college football? Or is
he just at the point saying, listen, we know Notre
Dame is the better organization. We don't want to play
him anymore.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Yeah, you know, I love Petros and I get where
he's coming from.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
But I think that a lot of this is rooted
in the AQ situation. And we talked about earlier. Right,
if they're if.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
USC, if the Big Ten has four automatic qualifier spots,
then it doesn't matter how many non conference losses USC has, Right,
all that matters is where they finish in the standings.
But if they're no a ques, then all of a sudden,
USC is playing at a competitive disadvantage to its peers. Now,
(16:23):
a lot of USC fans, including Petros, would say, we
just we care about that rivalry so much nothing else matters.
But a lot of people would say that the playoff
is more important than any single game, and USC is
damaging its playoff chances by playing Notre Dame, especially if
the Big Ten and the SEC agree to a crossover deal.
(16:45):
All of a sudden, in that case, USC is playing
non conference games, they're playing Notre Dame, and they're playing
Mississippi or LSU or Florida as well, and it's going
to be awfully tough if there's no a Q bid
for them to ever get in the playoffs and s
he's gotta take a long, hard look at that because
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making the playoff is everything.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, exactly, That's where the money is, that's where the
big games are, it's where the trophies are, and you know, yeah,
that sort of makes sense. Well, Petros is obviously very angry.
We'll hear that anger tomorrow at four o'clock as well. John.
It's been a pleasure to talk to you for more
than thirty seconds this time and actually get a nice
conversation with you. Appreciate your time.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Have you heard from softee coffee sipping tea right now?
Speaker 6 (17:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I think he's having a cocktail in Santorini, I think
before he's going to London tomorrow. So how about that?
Speaker 5 (17:36):
All right? I'm glad he's enjoying himself.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Oh, he certainly certainly is. I hope to talk to
you soon, John. We'll talk to you next Tuesday as usual.
You'll have Dick Fane back I believe Softye back as
well for that next week. Thanks a lot, Jackson thanks
John John Wilner, San Jose Mercury News Willner Hotline. Follow
him on Twitter at Wilner Hotline. He's our burying of
the Big Ten. Always great information. We'll switch back to
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You'll hear from Dan Wilson next. Also Brian Schweitzer, Sounders
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(18:57):
Dick Fane is off doing a storm game tonight, so
that's why we are sitting in in their places. Brian
Schmeenzer coming up in the next segment, Sounders FC head coach,
coming off of a one to nothing win for the
Sounders over Dallas. We'll get to your texts on you
make the call coming up at six pm. But the
Mariners Anders, they are starting a three game series tonight
against the Nationals. The lineup is out JP Crawford leading off. Goodness,
(19:21):
it's not Dylan Morris. We've both talked about so far
today that Julio Rodriguez batting second, cal Rawley, Randi, Arosarina,
Mitch garverrev hits clutch hit on Sundays batting fifth. You
got Dylan Moore still in there at sixth, Donovan Solano,
Leona Tavares, and Williamson is your nine hitter today batting
third with Logan Evans on the mound. Two and one
(19:44):
with a three point three to three ERA in his
five starts so far with the Mariners. Dan Wilson out
of Tea Mobile Parks spoke to the media just a
few moments ago about the series starting against the Nationals.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Well, really nice to be home after the long road trip.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
A good road trip for us. You know, turn our
attention now to to the home stand a good long
home stands chance to you know, play a lot of
you know, nine games here at home. Looking forward to that.
Logan Evans on the hill for us tonight.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Logan's you know, obviously throwing.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
The ball very well for.
Speaker 8 (20:15):
Us, and uh, you know has come in and done
a really nice job here and looking forward another good
start from him tonight and and getting homestand off on
the right book.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
A little different order we've got in the line up
to day.
Speaker 8 (20:31):
I got BUCkies and what kind of went into to
move more up and uh uh.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
In the area back down a little bit.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
I think this is similar to what you know we
have done in the past against lefties and and uh
you know, I think, uh the team obviously has has
left you very well, and uh so I don't think
it's too much different than what it's been and uh,
you know, I think offentively, ev the club just need
to go.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
Out and uh you continue to execue what we've done.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
You know, Uh, Parker with a with a good four seamer,
he's got to split the curve ball.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Nothing will be down in his zone.
Speaker 8 (21:08):
So obviously keeping the ball up and getting the ball
up to the zone.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Offensive Google here key for us tonight.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
And you know, Logan kind of a lot of couple
starts had been really better about generating a lot of
seas missed him and straight down the black.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
But if you've seen the way you've kind of uh
he continued.
Speaker 8 (21:24):
That Pattman alley and starting to hit a lot more,
but that would Yeah, you know, we've talked a lot
about Logan and and uh, you know, his success being
you know, using all his stuff and and he's got
multiple weapons and and uh, you know, I think he's
getting more.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
And more comfortable here.
Speaker 8 (21:38):
I think it's the experience of pitching here and understanding it, uh,
you know more each time he.
Speaker 7 (21:43):
Goes out there.
Speaker 8 (21:44):
It's certainly helpful, but understanding his stuff and and learning
how to use it, and uh, certainly the catcher's understanding that.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
At the same time, I think.
Speaker 8 (21:52):
It's all, you know, been a great step for him
each time he's gone out there, and and uh, you know,
there's some some more of the swinging a big part
of that as well.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Dan Wilson there Mariners manager Andrews. I've liked what I've
seen from Logan Evans so far. I mean, you look
at the stats and I mean the three three ERA,
I'm still, you know, very classic, and I love, you know,
the deeper analytics stuff. I don't understand all of it,
but I do understand ERA, and I like that. I
mean the outing yaty against the White Sox last week.
I mean, yeah, it was an awesome six innings, pitch,
(22:23):
six hits, fourign runs, gave up three home runs. They
still won the game. But it's a guy who's, as
Dan said, they're figuring out his stuff, and I like
what I've been seeing when he's kind of come in
very little expectations, he's done well.
Speaker 9 (22:36):
Yeah, he's the perfect guy to kind of come in
when you have a bunch of injuries. I think he
wouldn't be a lot of teams. In a lot of
teams original starting five rotations, but like I said, not
a lot of teams have the depth the Mariners do
to be able to when they have three pitching injuries
at a time, to be able to call on Logan
Evans and Emerson Hancock as well. So yeah, he's a
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perfect guy to kind of rely on, get you some innings,
kind of keep you in the game a little bit.
But he's not gonna be one where I don't think,
at least this year. Maybe farther down the road and
that could be a possibility for him, but he's not
gonna be one where you're like, Okay, we're gonna expect
six innings of two run baseball r exactly, And that's
gonna be the biggest thing I think for him moving
forward is to find out the length how you get
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through a lineup for the third time and when guys
have seen you multiple times before. So that's gonna be
the next step for him in his career. But I,
like you said, I think he's been fine. I'm probably
a little lower on him than a lot of other
Mariners people are, just because I think our top five
are so, so, so, so good.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
It's really hard to be up to that level, exactly,
and I think that that's a good justification for staying
with a five man rotation when anybody is everybody is healthy.
We'll see what happens when they get these guys back
if they do switch to a six or if they
stay at a five, as ty Ding Gonzalez from the
Locked On Mariners podcast also rights for Emeralds to do spectrum.
He was on with us at four o'clock Cheer the
(24:00):
podcast in case you missed that. He was talking about
a piece from Daniel Kramer where it doesn't sound like
the Mariners are thinking about a six man rotation at
this moment, but it's interesting to think about, you know,
depending on what Emerson Hancock continues to do, depending on
the injury statuses of these pitchers and when they get back. Andrews,
I want to take a look very quickly before we
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hit the break and hear from Brian Schmitzer about this
nine game homestand three against the Nationals, then you have
three against the Twins, and you have three against the Orioles.
That takes you through next Thursday. Obviously, the Nationals below
five hundred, the Twins right now or third in the
Al Central with the opposite record of the Nationals. The
Twins are twenty nine and twenty four, and then the Orioles,
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which I mean, they're inexplicably terrible this year, completely unexpected,
just a shocker. Nineteen and thirty four on the season,
last place in the Al East by a large margin,
so absolutely mind blowing. How bad the Orioles are. If
I could hand you over right now and say, you
go five and four on this homestand do you take
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it or do you risk it to go six and
three or better? Yeah, I think I go.
Speaker 9 (25:07):
I think I have higher expectations at the homestand that
I did the road trip that we just had. I
think you have to win the National Series. I think
you should win the Baltimore Series, the Minnesota one. Yeah, maybe,
maybe that's the only one where I think, Okay, if
you drop two out of three, that's not the end
of the world. That's a team that's been really hot lately.
They've their pitching has been just as good as the
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Mariners has recently.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
So you take six and three, yeah, yea. I take
six and three for sure.
Speaker 9 (25:32):
I just have higher expectations for this team, and I
think they need to start kind of having those for
themselves for them to take that next step.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
We'll see how they started off tonight, six forty first
pitch out at Tmobile Park, Logan Evans on the mound
for the Mariners facing the Washington Nationals out at lumin
Field and right next door. Tomorrow we are going to
see Sounders playing a kind of happy hour game. Usually
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Speaker 2 (26:33):
Should be hearing from Seattle Sounders FC head coach Brian
Schmetzer in just a couple of minutes. Part of this
anders might just be the fact that he knows that
we're on today and it's not Softie and it's not
Dick Fane, and if it's not those things, he might
be you know, there was it was funny. There was
a couple of weeks ago where there was a Open
CuPy US Open Cup, which is kind of just like
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a secondary tournament game for the Seattle Sounders, right, and
Brian was supposed to be calling us from the stadium,
and he was on his way driving to the stadium
and he just lost track of time and he ended
up kind of just not joining and very very apologetic
at the stadium. He came up to me at the
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press box there at Starfire Sports Complex and said, I'm
so sorry. I'm so sorry. So undoubtedly he's going to
be sorry again.
Speaker 9 (27:21):
Or he won't be will or he's doing this on purpose,
he's just messing.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
With He might be messing he might be doing this
on purpose. Either way, Brian Schenzer, you're gonna get it
from me when you when you're listening and you're not
calling us. Yeah, we'll get in touch with I'll send
a text to Brian and say why aren't you calling here,
But we'll talk with him in a couple of minutes.
As the Sounders are coming off of a one nothing
win over FC Dallas on Saturday, a game where they
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were clearly the better team, but it took all the
way until the eighty sixth minute, the very very end
of the game for them to finally get a goal
and finally get the win over Dallas. So they have
a two man matches this week. All they have a
three matches in nine days. Match tomorrow will be second
of this stretch. It's against San Diego. That's gonna be
a five o'clock pre match show and a five thirty kickoff.
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It's gonna be over on nine to fifty KJR AM
tomorrow evening. And Andrews, I thank you for jumping in
and taking over the con. Yeah, well I go do
that wow star Trek reference. Oh yeah, of course I
have to have to throw that. And then Minnesota coming
up on Sunday at lumen Field as well. That's a
three pm game on Sunday. But it's a Sounder team
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that you know, it's a San Diego team they're facing
tomorrow who beat him three to nothing back on April fifth,
and since then the club has gone pretty well five wins,
one loss, two draws. It's been a pretty successful run
since the loss in San Diego. The only question for
the Sounders Anders is, you know, can they you know,
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continue this relatively you know hot streak outside of a
couple of games. You know they've they've been the better
team in a lot of these games. But I don't know.
I know you right about the Sounders for Emerald City Spectrum.
What has stood out to you about this specifically this
last nine game stretch or so.
Speaker 9 (29:10):
Well, the first kind of obvious point for anyone who's
kind of into the tactical workings of a soccer team,
it's it's been the formation change from the three four
three to the four two three one. I think, well,
I guess we can ask him if he joins us,
if he ever decides to call it, But I think
a lot of the thinking behind the three four three
is it actually fit the profiles of a lot of
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players on this team. You look at the wing backs
that the Sounders have, and it like someone like Alex
rolled On I think would really really benefit from having
being higher up the field, being more involved in the offense.
You also have like someone like Haesus Ferrera who isn't
necessarily a striker, isn't necessarily a winger, but also isn't
necessarily a ten like those two underneath this, like the strikers,
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I think like his perfect kind of position altogether, where
he doesn't have to be the guy that's the highest
and has to stretch the field a little bit, but
he can kind of provide and do what he needs
to do in that position. I like the idea of
getting little bit of Argus more involved offensively instead of
having him drop back deeper in the double pivot. But
I think just the overall familiarity of the four two
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three one, because they've played it basically ever since Brian
has been here, has really helped this team kind of
be like, oh, Okay, I know my role in this,
even if it's maybe not the most conducive to my
specific playing style. Just having that overall like camaraderie and
knowing what you're supposed to do is going to be
a huge difference.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I think. So, and you got a player, you know,
your team MVP of last year in Albert Rusnak, who's
you know, you made a team record last year for
number of assists across all competitions over a season, I
mean set that record. And he's now way more comfortable
getting back to the four two three one. So having
him with a newcomer Ryan Kenton Pedro on the other
wing is just the comfortability for him in that spot.
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It's kind of a lot I think the best of
that entire midfield. The only question is, you know, can
they get a striker up top? Yeah, who fits with them?
Because yeah, Danny Mazoski. Then Danny Mazoski got hurt. Yeah,
Jordan Morris, but Jordan Morris has hurt. Ferreira isn't a
true nine. As we've talked about the kid from the
lower division. Basically, you know the Tacomae nears sergeon. Yeah,
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the comment defiances is the version of that for the
Sounders and Osase der Rosario. You know, we haven't seen
enough from him to make I think a true judgment
at the higher level. So you know, all these things.
The midfield is great, but you just need somebody who
I think can consistently and and be healthy up there
to help out the attack up top.
Speaker 9 (31:40):
Yeah, and like I think Mussovsky was kind of that.
I wrote about earlier what the kind of resurgence in
Musovsky has been this year and why he's been so
much more successful than someone like the name of Hasus Ferrera,
who's done it at this level, at the MLS level.
He's done it even at the national team level for
a while, but Lusovsky was the one who seemed to
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be working a little bit more in terms of at
least you know what he brings to the table. And
I think one of the reasoning is because the Sounders
have so many creative players that they don't have trouble
creating chances. Whether it's an Albert Rusknak, Pedro De la Vega,
Christian Roll, don Obed Vargas, so many different places where
you can create a chance, you need someone to finish
those chances. And you know, there has been a little
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bit of a revolution in the world game about kind
of total football, as they say, like you don't have
a true striker. Everyone can kind of play the role
of finishing off the play. Everyone's kind of a part
of the build up. That is all well and good,
but when you don't have someone that you're trying to
serve the ball into, it hurts your team's ability to
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score goals. And I think that's Danny Musovski's best trait
in terms of this team. He makes the run, he
gets into the dirty areas, he's there on the end
of crosses. They're not all pretty goals. If you look
at his what six goals seven goals so far this season.
They're all like within the six year box or maybe
just a little bit outside of it, tap ins here
and there, but you need someone to finish those plays off.
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So that's why I think he's been such a kind
of revelation for the Sounders this year, and it's someone
that they've been missing in that role since the kind
of decline of Raoul Ruidiaz.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Well, I'll tell you what. Miszowski was out there at
training today. He was a part of the group. So
we'll see what he can give them in this two
game week where San Diego tomorrow and then Minnesota on Sunday.
We still haven't heard from Brian Schmittzer. We hope everything's
okay with the head coach. Maybe we'll get him at
the top of the hour. Maybe we won't, But I'll
tell you what we are gonna do. We're gonna get
a break, We're gonna come back. We'll maybe get to Schmetzer,
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but we will get to your texts regardless. You make
the call. Time make the call. I will find I
haven't hit one softie drop the entire show. That's a
good one. I will I will go out over the
next few minutes, and I will search for Softies. You
make the call drop, we will get to your texts.
Hopefully we hear from Brian Schmittzer, Hopefully everything's okay with him,
and we'll continue on this Tuesday afternoon here on Sports
(33:58):
Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. And you know what,
anders I don't even think our next guest deserves for
me to put the sounders in the headlines after he
decided to wait fifteen minutes to call us on on
on Brian, the first show I've ever hosted. I was
banking on you joining us at five forty five. You'd
be playing a prank on me. Is everything okay? What's
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going on?
Speaker 6 (34:21):
I was on the phone with Softy?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Oh well that makes all the sense in the world now, yeah, okay,
so I have him to blame, having.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
A conversation in my head with Softy and I just yeah,
it was a wild conversation.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Well as all conversations with Softy usually are. I'm sorry
that you had to experience that, but hey, listen, you
get to talk to us myself, anders Hurst here.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
We're in for Softy. Yeah I am anders Here played
underneath Pete Fewing at Seattle University. So this we've we've
tried this show not to go full soccer, but we're
excited to talk some sounders with you here for a
few minutes. Brian, let's start with this. You get the
one nothing win over Dallas last weekend in a game
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that I think a lot of us felt like you
didn't play your best, but you end up still getting
the three points after looking at the film, after looking
at the tape. But what stood out about your team's
performance there on Saturday?
Speaker 6 (35:21):
Good first half, not so good second half. I think
that was the tail of the tape. Although look, the
penalty came in the second half, the score, the three
points came in the second half, So who am I
to complained? But there was some good stuff. I mean
there was some There were some good attacking sequences, and
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it just seems like, you know, we ran out of
either shem or you know, the turf, the heat, the
opponent got a little better. You could say that we
just weren't as functional in the second half, but we
got the job done.
Speaker 9 (35:57):
Yeah, Brian, thanks so much for joining us once again
and hurst here with you. So the goal scorer in
that second half Albert Rusknack seems like he's taken almost
another level this year. I know he had a really
good season last year was your team MVP, broke a
Sounders record for assists in a single MLS season. But
it's almost like he's adding another goal scoring element to
his game. What's behind all that and what's been behind
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his kind of resurgence in play here?
Speaker 5 (36:23):
Well?
Speaker 6 (36:23):
I love it because if he can beat last year's points, totals,
goals and assists, that would be awesome because last year
was I think his best, I think his career best
for him. So you know what's behind it? I would
tell you that he's motivated. He's signed a new deal.
We were eight minutes away from overtime in a conference final.
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You know Heyesus Ferrera, Paul Ariola, some new blood, some
you know, some competition at different spots on the field.
You know, it's not just Albert and Jordan anymore. There's
other talented guys on the team. I think is a
culmination of a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Brian Spencer's our guest Sounders FC head coach. Sounders playing
tomorrow night at Lumen Field. Got a five thirty game
at Lumen against San Diego. We'll get to San Diego
here a minute here, Brian, but you know this week
that you have facing San Diego tomorrow and then Minnesota
on Sunday, because they're spaced out a little bit differently.
Usually we see kind of the Saturday, Wednesday, Saturday. Because
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you have a game not Saturday, but Sunday against Minnesota,
how does that change what you're able to I mean,
not to give away your entire starting lineup, but how
does that fundamentally change the philosophy on what you could
go into tomorrow doing. Do you have to necessarily rotate
as much as you would if it was a Saturday
game against Minnesota instead of Sunday.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
Jackson, you're a well informed radio host, Accionado. Yes, it
gives me much more flexibility as far as the recovery
and starting guys. Remember last week when we were on
the roads for three games, is Wednesday, Saturday, both on
the road, both would travel. I mean that's when you
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put guys at injury risks. So we're three games at home,
an extra day sandwich in between each one. So it
gives me the freedom to a number one pick the
same lineup if I choose to and be number two.
I can make in the in game substitutions a little
earlier because you know, guys have to stay fresh for
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the last game or the third game in the week.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Brian, it's just us here. And you had that road
week where you had three games, you had four points
out of the possible nine with the one to one
and one record. Just just us here, nobody else is listening.
What point total would make you happy out of these
three games? You know, it doesn't have to be nine.
Speaker 6 (38:46):
Of the home games. Yeah, this week for home games.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Have you with anything less than nine?
Speaker 6 (38:53):
No, I wouldn't be because we need to. Look we're
playing against That was kind of a loaded question, Jackson.
I mean, here the deal. We want to we want
to we're undefeated at home, like I think you've said that.
We we've made mention of that on the air. Uh.
You know, we're playing against San Diego, Minnesota and then Vancouver.
Although that's a way, but we're playing against the top
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three teams in the conference. So that's that's pretty daunting.
It's pretty challenging. But the guys are up for the task.
And again we've got these next two at home.
Speaker 9 (39:23):
Well, all my questions are loaded, Brian, just just so
you know, yeah, you won't find anything other than that.
But Coach, I want to ask you about Hayesus Freira
because I think there's been a little bit of a
I don't want to say frustration, but almost like where
are the goals?
Speaker 6 (39:38):
Why?
Speaker 9 (39:38):
Why aren't we seeing more gold production from him? He
was one of your big offseason signings. I just want
to ask you how much you evaluate his play in
terms of gold production. Because he is one of your forwards,
you do expect him to score some goals, create some
chances for other teammates as well, But what what other
parts of the game does he do well in that
kind of because there's more than just scoring goals in
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the game and being a role on the team.
Speaker 6 (40:05):
For sure. But the fans when they saw the price tag,
you know what, what we paid for him, what we
had to give up. You know, he's already scored fifty
plus goals in MLS. Yeah, the expectations were there, I
would I might call it the fans were a little discontent.
What I've talked to Heyeseus about is, look, it's gonna come.
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He does feel some internal pressure, you know, he's a
proud guy. He wants to score goals, he wants to
help the team. I've countered that with yes, and here
he's he's got some other qualities to his game. His
defending is real good. He's got seven assists in all competitions.
So it's not like he's you know, not helped the
team win. It's just in that you know, spotlight of
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goal scoring. He's he's got to he's got to get
it done.
Speaker 9 (40:53):
Yeah, And I want to ask a very similar one
with Pedro de la Vega because I think in a
different way because of just the lack of avail ability
in his first year and then like this year with
his I think I think people have such sky high
expectations for him, him taking the number ten jersey, being
one of your main guys, and it seems like he
puts that pressure on himself as well. I want you
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to evaluate where he's at at his point in his
career in a similar sort of way.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (41:20):
Well, when he got a six point five million dollar
price tag on your back, sometimes that can weigh you down.
The number ten jersey, Remember who wore that last You know,
Nicol Ladero is a big shoe to fill. Sometimes they
get the feeling. Sometimes they get the feeling that, yes,
he tries to do too much. You know, I think
that was real evidence last year. I think this year
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he smoothed out a little bit. You know, he's a
much better athlete. He understands MLS. It's way different than
you know, his time down in Argentina. You know where
the Traveler is, its long and recovery and you know,
just it's just different. MLS is a different beast. So
he's doing better. And you know, look, I would remind
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everybody that you know, we signed him as a youth DP,
which is different than the DP tag. Now we've switched
things around a little bit, you know, we we've done
things to accommodate Heyzeus and some of the other guys
on that on the team. So you know, some of
that tag, you know, he's got to own, but some
of it, you know, it's just expectations that you know,
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fans always have.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Brian Schmetzer's with US Sounders FC head coach preparing to
face San Diego tomorrow at Luminfield at five thirty. SOUNDERSFC
dot com slash tickets to head out there and enjoy
tomorrow evening's game it should be an absolutely beautiful one kickoff.
I think about eighty degrees at kickoff. It's gonna be
hot out there. Brian, It's now time of the interview
where we ask about injuries and you give us all
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the information regarding injuries. Let's start with Danny Mzosky. Andrews
and I were just talking about Danny in the previous
segment and you know kind of just how unforeseen this
awesome last stretch for him has been. But we know
about the injury he got last week. So what's going
on with Danny Mazowski and what's his status not only
for tomorrow but this throughout this entire week.
Speaker 6 (43:06):
Well, he will be he will be available for selection. Uh,
he will be on the bench. I can tell you that. Uh.
He had he had a problem in his glue and
he's just trying to fight through it. It's painful, but
you know he's a tough kid. Uh. That was you know,
disappointing because it might have you know, derailed the train
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a little bit because he was certainly rolling. He was,
you know, scoring goals, feeling good. So a little bit
of a disappointment, but he's be available.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Jay margome Is Andrade we know hamstring from this last
week against Dallas. How's he doing. What's the prognosis in
terms of how long he'll be out?
Speaker 6 (43:46):
Yeah, Imar is going to tell you that he's going
to be back in two weeks. Hey, coach, I can
do this two weeks the trainers. The trainers are saying,
you know, maybe four four plus. Uh. It is not
a you know, see, he's an ending hamstring toll. But
it is certainly something the MRI did show some damage.
So we're going to take it cautiously. We have to
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fight through the fact that he really wants to make
it back to the Club World Cup, but you know,
the regular season is more important, so we'll we'll keep
our eye on him. And he's a tough kid as well.
He's been pretty quick coming back from some of his
previous injuries.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Certainly, I love that the tough kid drop and the
fact that we got that. That's that's that's good news there.
And funny you lose one defender, another defender on his
way back. Jackson Reagan, how is he doing? Is he
going to be able to make one of these matches
this week?
Speaker 7 (44:40):
Yeah, he is.
Speaker 6 (44:41):
He'll be on the bench and you know, hopefully he'll
see some minutes or I'm going to try and get
him some minutes, and then after tomorrow, hopefully no setbacks,
then we'll give him the green light to be back
in full.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Okay, great, And then last thing before Andrews asks about
San Diego coming up tomorrow, Jordan Morris. We haven't gotten
a full Jordan Morris here on the show on kJ
R in a couple of weeks. You know, he's been
working back from his hamstring. I guess the timeline obviously
looking at the Club World Cup now just less than
a few weeks away. Are we going to potentially hopefully
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see Jordan for that tournament, if not sooner that.
Speaker 6 (45:20):
Is that is a great question, you know. I think
I might have hinted at it today in the scrum,
in the media scrum, but look, I'd love to announce
the softy dick you Anders, Jordan's on track to be
back for the Vancouver Matt oh and and then if
he can, you know, keep progressing like he's shown, there's
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a good chance we'll see him in some way, shape
or form during the Club World Cup.
Speaker 9 (45:48):
I love to hear that, Kurt, You're really excited to
get him back. All right, what about San Diego? You
guys go up against a team that you lost three
zero against when he went down to their place earlier.
But that kind of marked the beginning of this new
run of form for your guys' team. So what makes
them so good? What what kind of a challenge are
you facing tomorrow night.
Speaker 6 (46:09):
Well, I got to give mikey Varis credit. You know,
he plays a specific style. They're a possession based team.
I think they're number two in possession in MLS, starting
with their goalkicks way back in front of their own net.
They're not afraid to try and possess the ball, draw
you out, get past you. You know, they got good players.
Chucky Lozano, we didn't play against him down there in
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San Diego, Mexican international, super super player. They've got dryer,
they've got they've got some big names, they've got some
medium names that are playing really well. What I would
say is it's a little bit of a surprise, because
you know, expansion teams, there's always that, you know, that
label that they have to ship. But they've actually done
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great and they they haven't looked like an expansion team
in a lot of their games. Uh, that was our
worst result of the season, and in my mind because
the three goals were you know, we just fell asleep
in the first minute on a corner kick and then
a couple of transition moments where guys just didn't do
the jobs they were supposed to do. So I chalk
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that down to, you know, just a bad performance and
we're looking to get back at it.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Yeah, get some revenge on tomorrow night at Looman, San
Diego is coming off of a two to one win
over the LA Galaxy. Bro, can you believe fifteen games
into the season, the LA Galaxy, who won the entire
championship last year, still don't have a single win fifteen
games into the season. Can you believe that.
Speaker 6 (47:36):
That is perhaps the story of the year. Amongst all
the coaches, the you know, the staff around the league,
I mean, what is Greg doing? I mean, look, Greg's
a good coach. I mean I coached against them in Toronto.
Speaker 4 (47:50):
She won it.
Speaker 6 (47:52):
Yeah, I know, but you know, it's it's it's something
that's out of my control. But it certainly is something
that talk about around the water cooler.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
This certainly is out here in the Sounder media land. Brian,
thanks so much. Good luck tomorrow against San Diego. Appreciate
the time, all right, take care of guys. That's Brian Schmitzer,
Sounders FC head coach once again. Well pre match five
o'clock tomorrow, nine to fifty KJR am for Sounders at
versus San Diego out at lumen Field. Hope to see
(48:23):
everybody out there. And once again, Anders, thanks to you
for again taking over my duties. Gone out there. I
appreciate it. What do you say? We have a just
a few minutes here, and we didn't get enough in textimonials,
so I've never done this thing. Let's let's see if
this makes any sense. If this works, you make the call.
(48:43):
Safti's magical wall. Actually you make the call. Holy here,
I thought he was hitting some random things. Sometimes that
actually works, alright, Andrews, what do we got on the text?
Speaker 5 (48:52):
All right?
Speaker 9 (48:53):
From the two h six Jackson? You have to make
the call which is stronger?
Speaker 2 (48:58):
Anders?
Speaker 9 (48:58):
Disdain for the s Portland Timbers or the Edmonton Oilers.
Oh think carefully.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
See it's funny because we haven't talked too much hockey.
I'm not the biggest hockey Yeah, that's fair, So we
haven't talked too much hockey. Yeah, but I do know
you hate Portland. I do so my initial thought just
off off of that would be Portland. But I don't
know how much you truly hate Edmonton. It's in two
different ways, ok.
Speaker 9 (49:24):
I think historically, if you're my whole life, Yes, I've
been raised to say that Portland sucks as all Seattle
I should.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
And we heard from Brian recently on an interview as well.
We have that drop. I will find it somewhere.
Speaker 9 (49:37):
But lately, especially with my growing presence, shall I say,
with the Kraken and how much I've involved with their
organization and how I've come to from originally from the
outside looking in, but now from inside looking out, about
how fan bases interact with.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
One of each other.
Speaker 9 (49:57):
Edmonton Oilers fans when they come to climb up Pledge
Arena are some of the most annoying groups of really
that I've ever heard. And it's so funny how they're
so arrogant, but they still have not won in such
a long time. So yeah, that's kind of where I
get it. So I'll root for that against them. Excuse me, fraternity,
Let me try this plan.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
The only bad thing is I have no idea where
I just put the you make the call? It is
you make the call. What's next?
Speaker 9 (50:29):
Let's see? Oh, okay from the rod the two six?
What's your favorite summer fruit?
Speaker 2 (50:35):
Pineapple? I'm a big pineapple guy. I could I could
eat a pound of pineapple every single day, just shovel
it into my face.
Speaker 5 (50:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (50:44):
That that's a great answer, and that's probably mine as well.
I also love myself some raspberries. Give me some raspberries,
I will eat the entire bin. However big the bin.
You give me a raspberries, I will eat the entire thing.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
The worst part, Uh, you know I should phrase this
correctly here because I know she's listening. Okay, but I
love my wife, but having to split the raspberries or
split the fruit that I actually like with her. I
would like to have the entire container of fruit myself,
but I know that I need to leave her half.
So yeah, I love you, but I want all the fruits.
Sometimes last the call, last one before we get out
(51:18):
of here.
Speaker 9 (51:19):
Guys, you have a Hollywood Weekly show, so I'm curious
on your thoughts on and or I.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Have it right now as the seventh best show I've
ever seen. You all I've made it very clear that
I have a list of one hundred and thirty shows
that I've seen I have and Or Lost has been
my top show, Scrubs, Friday Night Lights, The Good Place,
Ted Lasso, The Office, and and Or came in at
number seven. And Or is the best piece of science
fiction content ever period. End of story. A Star Wars guy,
(51:48):
it is twenty four episodes of pure perfection. Maybe outstand
the first few of season two or not. Not awesome
but spectacular show.
Speaker 9 (51:57):
Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I have it abol even higher.
It's probably in my top five. I haven't done an
extensive list like you have, but it's definitely a top
five show for me. And yeah, anyone who has any
sort of interest in Star Wars, especially the original trilogy,
like I understand if the prequels aren't your thing, go
check it out because it's awesome. It kind of tells
the story of how the Rebellion gets formed in a great,
(52:19):
great way.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Great show, indeed,
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